[01:25] <nixternal> mdke: doin' fine, a bit busy though
[01:26] <kanadian> nixternal: hi, im looking to dig into some ubuntu documentation but I'm more or less new at linux and documenting for that matter
[01:26] <nixternal> groovy...documenting is a fairly straight forward and easy process
[01:27] <nixternal> the "new at Linux" part usually takes a bit to get over
[01:27] <kanadian> i stumbled upon your blog the other day and was actually talking to you just yesterday. do you remember "ubuntu"
[01:34] <nixternal> yup, in #kde
[01:35] <kanadian> yup, well anyways, Im not sure how I stumbled on your blog but I did somehow through google and ended up back at ubuntu/community
[01:35] <nixternal> hehe, so it is working then :)
[01:35] <kanadian> if you mean the google hits then yet
[01:35] <kanadian> yes
[01:36] <nixternal> honestly, documentation wise, I am working more in KDE now more so than Kubuntu especially with the release of KDE 4
[01:37] <nixternal> there is so much documentation work to get done
[01:37]  * dsas_ flogs nixternal harder
[01:38] <nixternal> no flogging!
[01:38] <kanadian> yeah I realize this is a pretty busy point for kde4, i've been waiting anxiously for it to be released in mainstream distros, I need a stable system so I haven't installed the core packs for testing
[02:51] <kgoetz> hi all. whats the best practice for tellin gpeople to edit files? someone just pointed out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide#check uses 'gksudo gedit' to edit files. someone in #kubuntu was trying to install gksudo and gedit to be able to fllow the guide :)
[03:04] <Flannel> kgoetz: For them, they should use kdesu kate
[03:06] <kgoetz> Flannel: yes, i know. but how do you say that in guides? do you say 'or in kubuntu blah' or is there a page to link to?
[03:06] <Flannel> kgoetz: And for xubuntu, gksu mousepad, hmm, its difficult to be specific enough to not be confusing to users, but vague enough to allow that sort of stuff.
[03:08] <kgoetz> Flannel: which is why i thought there might be a page :/
[03:08] <Flannel> kgoetz: I know for installing, they usually use "Any Method" for installing (synaptic, adept, apt-get, etc)
[03:08] <Flannel> But, I can't seem to find that page.
[03:08] <kgoetz> hm
[03:08] <Flannel> but, perhaps its time we make a page like that for editors as well
[03:09] <Flannel> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware I guess is the one.  And there's also a note here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[03:09]  * Flannel realises he's in -doc
[03:09] <kgoetz> hehe
[04:21] <ubotu> New bug: #205408 in ubuntu-docs (main) "package ubuntu-docs 8.03.2 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess post-installation script killed by signal (Interrupt)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/205408
[09:38] <mdke> popey: the shuttle I showed you. It seems to work great.
[09:39] <popey> cool
[09:40] <ubotu> New bug: #205456 in ubuntu-docs (main) "package ubuntu-docs 8.03.2 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 134" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/205456
[09:41] <kgoetz> hm. dupe.
[09:50] <mdke> not so sure
[09:50] <mdke> that one looks rather different
[09:50] <mdke> it's slightly worrying, that's the third bug I think we've had on failing to upgrade.
[09:50] <mdke> maybe something is wrong with scrollkeeper