[00:22] <flint> Good evening from frozen Vermont, is it traditional in Xubuntu to use native or ndis drivers for wireless pcmcia cards?
[00:22] <mmirsm> /bye
[02:14] <keb> i have a fedora 6 system with 4GB free HD space.  will it be possible to do a remote install of Xubuntu 8.04 onto that?
[02:16] <keb> the idea is to migrate over all the app data afterwards, and then wipe the fedora
[05:21] <alex_mayorga> how can I redetect my video card?
[05:21] <alex_mayorga> I'm stuck at a very low res
[06:17] <simi> hi, i am new to xubuntu, i used ubuntu and kubuntu and now i am tring xubuntu
[06:17] <simi> where i can increase the system font size?
[06:19] <simi> i managed to increase the system font but is posible that all aplication to use this fnts like in gnome or kde?
[06:20] <nanito> hi, can anyone help me troubleshoot my video? I'm stuck at 640*480 :(
[06:22] <nanito> I've just migrated from win95
[06:22] <nanito> and used to have 1024*728
[06:22] <nanito> !video
[06:22] <ubotu> Ubuntu 7.04 installs multimedia codecs automatically. For older versions of Ubuntu, or if you can't use the automatic installer, see https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - For multimedia applications, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[06:22] <nanito> !xorg
[06:22] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:22] <simi> hi\
[06:22] <simi> you need to reconfigure your xorg
[06:23] <nanito> simi: me?
[06:23] <simi> nanito: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:23] <simi> you will be asked many questions
[06:24] <simi> if you do not know just accespt the default
[06:24] <simi> and press enter
[06:24] <simi> you will eventualy reach a point where you must select the resolutions you want to use
[06:24] <simi> select the ones you need
[06:25] <simi> i belive that you must press Space bar to select a resolution
[06:25] <simi> after reconfiguring try to log out
[06:25] <simi> then you can chose the resolution
[06:26] <forces> hi!
[06:26] <nanito> simi: thanks I'll try that
[06:27] <simi> that works always
[06:27] <simi> it happend for me the same problem after an update
[06:28] <simi> and i just typed in google ubuntu reconfigure xorg and i found the command because i do not remembered it corectly
[06:32] <simi> nanito: tell me if it works or not
[06:38] <nanito> simi: didn't work
[06:39] <simi> nanito: do you select the resolutions you wanted? restart X?
[06:40] <nanito> yes I googled your suggestion and push ctrl+alt+bksp
[06:40] <nanito> then I login again and it's back at 640 :(
[06:41] <nanito> my monitor is an old unbranded 12"
[06:41] <simi> and had no appeared other resolutions in the display manager? oor where you want to set it?
[06:43] <nanito> no, it only show 640 and 320 now the monitor is named Custom1
[06:43] <simi> you can try to set this manualy http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-426193.html
[06:44] <nanito> this is my video card 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82740 (i740) AGP Graphics Accelerator (rev 21)
[06:44] <simi> but try again the recon figuration program
[06:45] <simi> there will ask you the video card, usualy it selects it corect but check to be sure
[06:45] <simi> for me always select corect the video card and the open source driver for me is ATI
[06:46] <simi> try to ask in #ubuntu or #kubuntu because is not specific tu xubuntu
[06:46] <simi> and maybe you can find other solutions
[06:49] <simi> nanito:  and maybe they know more about your card, for me always vorked that solution
[07:52] <the_alamo> does anyone have a suggestion for a movie organizer or cataloguer?
[08:54] <Ov4l> folks, hello. i just wanted to asked you about thunar and hardy. is gvfs in xubuntu ?
[09:21] <s_arts> Hi
[09:22]  * s_arts loves xubuntu 8.04 :)
[09:51] <maristo> hi
[09:53] <s_arts> hi
[09:57] <maristo> I have no problems, and i have no questions...
[09:57] <s_arts> ok
[09:57] <s_arts> neither have I
[11:21] <locales> hello
[11:21] <locales> does anyone know how you can change java's locales?
[11:27] <s_arts> you could ignore them
[11:52] <simu> my xubuntu opens text files with abiword by default, I'm suprised there is no simple gui-editor preinstalled. what editor can I install that fits xubuntu?
[11:52] <s_arts> mousepad
[11:55] <simu> ah thank you
[14:02] <nanito> hi, anyone familiar with this error when updating a new install: dpkg: error al procesar /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.6.1-1ubuntu10_i386.deb (--unpack):
[14:02] <nanito>  files list file for package `libots0' is missing final newline
[14:14] <nanito> I'm also still stuck at 640 by 480
[14:14] <nanito> please help
[14:18] <keb> nanito did you check the /etc/Xorg.0.log to see which resolutions the driver said were compatible with yourmonitor?
[14:18] <keb> er
[14:18] <keb> /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[14:20] <nanito> I'm a total newbie, just disembarked from win95
[14:20] <nanito> let me check that
[14:21] <nanito> thanks on the help
[14:23] <nanito> ked what I'm looking for, there seem to be a lot of info there
[14:24] <keb> look for errors
[14:24] <keb> or lines that mention supported resolutions
[14:24] <keb> or modes
[14:24] <nanito> this seem insteresting  I740(0): Not using default mode "1024x768" (hsync out of range)
[14:24] <keb> exactly
[14:24] <nanito> I used to have that resolution on win95
[14:25] <keb> it is likely that the capabilities of your monitor are not available or being used by the Xorg driver
[14:26] <nanito> do I nees my monitor driver?
[14:26] <nanito> I've reinstalled xubuntu a couple of times to no avail
[14:27] <nanito> I've also used "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phig xseerver-xorg" as per suggestions of people here, but it didn't help either
[14:27] <keb> you need to get the specs for your monitor to see what hsync and vsync it supports
[14:27] <keb> vrefresh
[14:27] <keb> assuming the automatic configuration didnt work for you
[14:28] <nanito> that would be hard, I was given this old clone machine to play with
[14:28] <nanito> but I don't have the specs for the monitor
[14:29] <nanito> the label on the monitor says "Fountain Technologies" and that's about it :(
[14:29] <keb> you need to know your hardware's specs to use that script also
[14:29] <keb> because it lets you pick out the available resolutions
[14:29] <keb> check the back for manufacturer and model
[14:29] <nanito> is there a command to figure that out?
[14:30] <nanito> model L503BGD maker Fountain Technologies
[14:30] <keb> well the automatic detection must have failed so probly not for your case
[14:31] <nanito> I've googled that but the company seems o be gone now
[14:31] <nanito> what's the command for auto detection of modes?
[14:32] <nanito> keb do you want to se my X.log?
[14:32] <nanito> by the way, thanks a loot on helping me out
[14:32] <keb> ok. use pastebin.ca or something like that
[14:35] <nanito> keb http://pastebin.ca/953921
[14:37] <keb> yep its having trouble finding resolutions for your monitor
[14:38] <nanito> so am I, seems like they gave a bunch of junk :(
[14:39] <keb> how many colors did you get when using Win95?
[14:39] <nanito> 24K
[14:39] <keb> 24bit?
[14:39] <nanito> or more, I lowered it to 24 for "better" response
[14:40] <nanito> yes, when I do de reconfigure command it does pick up 24 automatically
[14:43] <keb> ok can you cd /etc/X11 and look at xorg.conf ?
[14:44] <nanito> I'm looking, what do you need?
[14:45] <nanito> do I paste it as well?
[14:45] <keb> find the Section "Monitor" where it says Identifier "Monitor genérico"
[14:45] <keb> nope
[14:45] <nanito> found it
[14:45] <keb> what HorizSync is listed there, if any
[14:46] <nanito> theres no such thing
[14:46] <keb> is there anything in that section?
[14:47] <nanito> Option          "DPMS" is the only other line on that section
[14:47] <keb> ok we need to find some generic monitor specs that won't blow up your monitor
[14:47] <nanito> Oh I also know the monitor is 12 inch
[14:47] <brownknight> hello guys. first time here on xubuntu irc
[14:49] <nanito> brownknight hi, welcome
[14:50] <keb> my googling shows the L503BGD seems to be 15"
[14:51] <nanito> let me get my tape
[14:52] <nanito> Ok, I've measured it, the window is a bit shy of 15
[14:53] <nanito> keb please pardon my english, I speak spanish :)
[14:53] <keb> ok
[14:53] <keb> no problemo
[14:53] <nanito> :D gracias
[14:55] <keb> ok we should be safe with the following settings
[14:55] <keb>     HorizSync 30-50
[14:55] <keb> wait
[14:56] <keb> make a backup copy of your xorg.conf file first ;)
[14:56] <nanito> OK
[14:56] <nanito> cp right
[14:56] <keb> yes
[14:56] <nanito> OK, done
[14:57] <keb> now edit the file and in the Section "Monitor" under the DPMS line add the above
[14:57] <nanito> HorizSync 30-50
[14:57] <keb> and also:    VertRefresh     50-90
[14:58] <nanito> done Horis and Vert
[14:58] <keb> it is possible your monitor can do 1280x1024 but let's not take too many risks
[14:59] <nanito> if it goes to 800 I'll be happy :)
[14:59] <keb> note spelling HorizSync
[14:59] <nanito> from some googling it seems that 24 is also to high
[14:59] <nanito> OH yes, I copy/paste but then got it wrong
[14:59] <keb> ok next move down in the file to the Section "Screen"
[15:00] <nanito> I'm there
[15:01] <nanito> I've changed  DefaultDepth    24 to  DefaultDepth    16 :)
[15:01] <keb> does it have a DefaultDepth ?
[15:01] <keb> good
[15:01] <keb> ok in the SubSection "Display" what are the Modes listed?
[15:02] <nanito> Modes           "1280x1024" "1024x768" "832x624" "720x400" "640x480" "640x400" "640x350"
[15:02] <keb> try change them to  only "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
[15:02] <nanito> OK
[15:03] <nanito> done
[15:04] <keb> now save the file
[15:04] <keb> are you on the same computer now as you  are changing?
[15:04] <nanito> I'm on the computer with the problem
[15:04] <nanito> it's my only one :(
[15:05] <keb> you will have to restart X.  you can do it by pressing Ctrl-Backspace or by rebooting
[15:05] <nanito> does it make a difference? which is better?
[15:05] <keb> i only have one also :)
[15:05] <keb> if it does not work, you can login with text mode and put back the original file
[15:05] <nanito> OK
[15:06] <keb> probably both are same for this purpose
[15:06] <nanito> let me reboot, whish me luck and thanks yet again
[15:06] <keb> good luck
[15:07] <keb> i have to go so i might not be here
[15:07] <keb> when you get back
[15:08] <keb> wb
[15:09] <nanito> keb I owe you THANKS!!
[15:09] <keb> :)))
[15:09] <keb> you can change modes by pressing Ctrl-Alt-+ or Ctrl-Alt--
[15:10] <keb> your computer reboots fast
[15:10] <nanito> I pressed the keys rather than reboot
[15:10] <nanito> :D
[15:11] <keb> nice
[15:11] <keb> ok i must vamos
[15:11] <keb> bye
[15:11] <nanito> muchas gracias ;)
[15:12] <nanito> is there a way to go Hardy from Gusty
[15:21] <flint> Good evening from frozen Vermont, is it traditional in Xubuntu to use native or ndis drivers for wireless pcmcia cards?
[15:21] <flint> Good afternoon from frozen Vermont, is it traditional in Xubuntu to use native or ndis drivers for wireless pcmcia cards?
[15:21] <flint> Yea, that's better...
[15:39] <nanito> any help for these errors: E: /var/cache/apt/archives/language-pack-gnome-en-base_1%3a7.10+20080205_all.deb: files list file for package `libots0' is missing final newline
[15:39] <nanito> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/language-pack-es_1%3a7.10+20080229_all.deb: files list file for package `libots0' is missing final newline
[16:07] <flint> thought I would hang on here and see what the xbuntu chats are like...
[16:14] <nanito> anyone aware of problems on libots0 package?
[16:15] <nanito> libots0_0.4.2+cvs.2004.02.20-1.1build1_i386.deb (--unpack):
[16:15] <nanito>  files list file for package `libots0' is missing final newline
[16:27] <siggjen> chat? when did that happen?
[19:10] <nathan42100> question, is it possible to download the xubuntu binaries and set up grub to boot them or do I have to do a whole separate install of it?
[19:36] <theunixgeek_> I can't get my screen resolution over 800x600. I did the dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg thing and enabled restricted drivers, but it won't let me go to 1280x1024. How do I fix this?
[20:23] <vidd> anyone know where the .deb's are on the web site(s) so i can dl the app im having an issue with and not use apt-get?
[20:26] <siggjen> you will find the ftp or http url in /etc/apt/sources.list
[20:27] <vidd> there are no .deb files listed there
[20:28] <vidd> found it...packages.ubuntu.com
[20:29] <siggjen> the .deb files you have downloaded will usually be placed in /var/cache/apt/archives/
[20:30] <vidd> and they are all scewed up
[20:30] <siggjen> sounds strange
[20:31] <vidd> it is strange that a sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade would mess up apt so bad that you cant install anything else
[20:32] <siggjen> can you paste the error messages to a web pastebin?
[20:33] <vidd> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60779/
[20:34] <siggjen> have you done anything to perl?
[20:34] <vidd> not that I know of
[20:35] <vidd> all we did was sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[20:37] <siggjen> could you try apt-get install gcc-4.2-base
[20:37] <siggjen> ?
[20:40] <vidd> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60784/
[20:40] <vidd> its just not configured...and wont let itsself get configured
[20:41] <siggjen> apt-get install zlib1g
[20:42] <vidd> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60785/
[20:42] <siggjen> which version did you upgrade from?
[20:43] <vidd> 7.10
[20:43] <vidd> to 7.10
[20:43] <siggjen> very strange
[20:43] <vidd> i agree
[20:43] <vidd> i did a fresh net-install last night
[20:44] <siggjen> do you have a fast internet line?
[20:44] <siggjen> if so i's apt-get clean
[20:44] <vidd> my partner install light-httpd, did update and dist-upgrade...poof, messed up system
[20:45] <vidd> working....
[20:45] <siggjen> then doublecheck that /var/cache/apt/archives/ are empty, then try to apt-get install gcc-4.2-base
[20:48] <vidd> methinks we got it
[20:48] <vidd> at least it didnt fail yet
[20:49] <siggjen> let's hope so (:
[20:50] <siggjen> you might have been unlucky and upgraded while the server was rsyncing the packages
[20:50] <vidd> sounds like my kind of luck
[20:51] <siggjen> as long as it is fixable it's not that bad (:
[20:51] <vidd> i KNOW its fixable (its linux, not windows) the question was HOW
[20:52] <vidd> without formatting the whole thing of course
[20:52] <vidd> =]
[20:52] <siggjen> mhm (:
[20:54] <siggjen> shows the strength of the apt system again
[20:54] <vidd> I think (based on the solution you provided that seems to be working) that the issue was caused by importing a drive with /var data that was on debian and not ubuntu....
[20:54] <siggjen> there might be a source of problem there yes
[20:54] <siggjen> you can install debian and then upgrade it to ubuntu
[20:55] <vidd> I had to exclude that /var dive in order to get ubuntu to load
[20:55] <siggjen> i don't think it's a good idea
[20:55] <vidd> well...install...not load
[20:56] <vidd> uh-oh! i think in my tinkering that i deleted the ubuntu-keyring
[20:56] <siggjen> uhum
[20:56] <siggjen> that shouldn't be too hard to fix
[20:56] <siggjen> guess google has lots of hits there
[20:58] <vidd> how do you use dpkg to configure an installed program?
[20:59] <siggjen> dpkg-reconfigure
[21:00] <siggjen> so funny to read the local paper on the net after there has fallen some snow
[21:01] <siggjen> people in this city can't handle it
[21:03] <vidd> what city (or state/contry if you dont wish to say the city name)
[21:04] <siggjen> Bergen/Norway
[21:05] <vidd> and they cant handle snow?
[21:05] <vidd> dont it snow like half the year there?
[21:05] <siggjen> nah
[21:05] <siggjen> guess this is the 4th time this year it snows
[21:05]  * vidd is from the USA so he is stupid about "foreign" weather
[21:06] <siggjen> rains all year around usually
[21:06] <siggjen> :%s/time/winter/
[21:07] <vidd> ?
[21:08] <siggjen> change time to winter in last sentece
[21:08] <siggjen> *sentence
[21:09] <vidd> 4th time this winter? spring started 3 days ago!
[21:09] <vidd> =]
[21:10] <siggjen> tell that to the local weather
[21:10] <siggjen> i was having the first beer out this spring yesterday ...
[21:11] <siggjen> had to go inside because it started to snow
[21:11] <vidd> we call snow in the spring-time "onion snow"
[21:11]  * vidd has no clue why......
[21:12] <vidd> =]
[21:12] <siggjen> the problem is the easter holliday
[21:12] <siggjen> lots of drivers not used to driving in winter out on the roads
[21:13] <siggjen> well that problem was there every time the snow fell
[21:13] <siggjen> guess some people should just start to take the bus
[21:13] <vidd> easter is the first sunday after the first full moon after the first day of spring....
[21:14] <siggjen> you think about equinox? or what it is named?
[21:15] <vidd> a concession the catholic church made to indoctrinate the pagans into christian society
[21:15] <vidd> yes...the spring equinox is the official first day of spring
[21:16] <siggjen> and here lots of people go to the mountains during the easter holliday to go skiing
[21:17] <siggjen> guess they shouldnt ski with their cars as well d:
[21:17] <vidd> hehe
[21:19] <vidd> well....we still had issues....
[21:20] <siggjen> oooops?
[21:21] <vidd> so I had my partner disable /var on hdc1 and restore /var on hda3, and the issue vanished
[21:21] <s_arts> off-topic: If some xubuntu-devs are available. You might want to take a look at ristretto 0.0.18. (released this afternoon) It 'just works' a little better then 0.0.17.
[21:21] <s_arts> just a hint ;)
[21:22] <siggjen> is that a xfce4 package?
[21:23] <s_arts> yes
[21:23] <s_arts> its the image viewer.
[21:23] <siggjen> ok, i didn't know
[21:23] <siggjen> have no idea if the devs are watching this channel
[21:23] <s_arts> It's part of hardy beta.
[21:24] <siggjen> probably better to say it to a mailing list
[21:24] <s_arts> I don't care that much myself. I run svn anyways.
[21:24] <siggjen> (:
[21:24] <vidd> their channel is #xubuntu-devel
[21:25] <siggjen> vidd: did you try to copy all from /var to the hdc drive?
[21:26] <siggjen> maybe a good idea to backup the hdc drive first d:
[21:26] <vidd> i passed that on to my partner
[21:27] <siggjen> humm, sounds like a good idea to have such a partner (;
[21:29] <vidd> we in #viddandme
[22:00] <Breakage> hey, anyone know how to get the backspace key to work with gnu screen in xfterm4? :)
[23:22] <Rhodetrem> hi, quick question: what is the default terminal used in Xubuntu?