/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/03/24/#kubuntu.txt

Armagguedes is there any essential functionality missing from 804-beta-KDE4? or does everything pretty much work?00:00
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petriRoos00:21
NutzebahnHi.00:33
NutzebahnI installed emerald and compiz, and imported a theme into the Emerald theme manager. How do I activate the theme? (emerald --replace doesn't work, and compiz --replace messes up the desktop and forces me to restart), help?00:34
Odd-rationaleNutzebahn: Open emerald theme manager.00:34
Odd-rationaleNutzebahn: double-click on the theme00:35
NutzebahnOdd-rationale: Double click it inside Emerald theme manager? Because that didn't work.00:36
Odd-rationaleNutzebahn: hmm. dunno then. That is what i always have done...00:36
nosrednaekimNutzebahn: after you click it, often you have to restart emerald00:37
Nutzebahnnosrenaekim: How do I restart it?00:39
jhutchinsNutzebahn: #compiz00:39
galfridanyone good with vmware?00:40
galfridor know of any good alternatives00:40
NutzebahnVirtualBox.00:40
galfridwill that allow me to create a vm *and* run it?00:41
NutzebahnYes.00:41
NutzebahnIt is free and open source.00:41
galfridoh cool00:41
galfridthat's what I'm looking for00:42
Nutzebahn:)00:42
galfridI actually have a couple more issues...00:43
galfridwell, I have many issues, but specifically kubuntu based ones00:44
Armagguedes is there any essential functionality missing from 804-beta-KDE4? or does everything pretty much work?00:44
nosrednaekimNutzebahn: emerald --replace restarts it00:44
nosrednaekimArmagguedes: I'm not sure... I haven't used it...,... you can ask in #ubuntu+100:44
galfridfirst off I have a partial install of vmware workstation that won't uninstall fully00:44
galfridI'm stuck and I don't know what to do00:45
galfridany advice? :D00:50
Nutzebahnnosrednaekim: emerald replace isn't doing anything.00:51
JucatoNutzebahn: try asking in #compiz-fusion00:53
ere4siusing the same conky script that worked in ubuntu but in kubuntu the window isn't transparent00:55
galfrid*sigh* I hate being a noob... I have the debian package for virtualbox, but I don't know how to install it01:05
NutzebahnDouble click it.01:06
galfridI did that... I get "utility is not in your PATH, please contact admin"01:06
galfridso confused01:08
ketzereiI can't install Ubuntu. Alternate cd or otherwise. Kubuntu installs just fine, I'm running it now. Ubuntu just seems to hate me, 64 bit or otherwise.01:10
ketzereiAny ideas?01:10
Kaeviknone here01:10
tingalfrid: if your GUI environ won't run anything if you double click it, use 'sudo dpkg -i vbox-package-name.deb'01:11
ketzereiI get an "Errno 5 Check cd for defects, clean disk drive, or move to a cooler enviroment."01:11
tinfirst, maybe read 'man dpkg' quickly01:11
ketzereiI've burned like 4 different cds already, and none work.01:11
BluesKajketzerei, go to #ubuntu for advice01:11
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ober0nehey, I'm looking to get some music composition programs up and running, but it tells me (wrongly) that I don't have a midi device, or that it couldn't open /dev/sequencer... any ideas?01:14
frank23Windows installer royally screwed up my partition table. Please read here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60815/   I just want to know if rewriting the partition table as I suggest will work and if there is anything I should watch out for.  Right now I'm in a ubuntu livecd.01:15
osirishow do i get kubuntu to use my new sound card01:22
osirisor how can i tell what /dev a device is using.  it shows up in lspci as a ESS product01:23
osirisso, none of 300 some people can hear my question ?01:26
NutzebahnSend the question again.01:26
NutzebahnSomeone will eventually help.01:26
osirishow do i get kubuntu to use my new sound card01:26
osirisor how can i tell what /dev a device is using.  it shows up in lspci as a ESS product01:27
fuhrealAnyone use kooka to scan?01:27
osirisproblem is i cant turn off the onboard sound with this crappy compaq bios01:27
NutzebahnOh.01:28
NutzebahnHmm.01:28
NutzebahnYou should be able to in the operating system.01:28
osiriswant to get the pci sound card working01:28
osirisnot to knock the channel, but i miss the mandriva days.  thier channel actoually had people that could answer technical questions01:29
BluesKajosiris, lspci | grep audio, then ,asoundconf set-default-card "name of soundcard"01:29
osirisfriggin sweet01:30
frank23Windows installer royally screwed up my partition table. Please read here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60815/   I just want to know if rewriting the partition table as I suggest will work and if there is anything I should watch out for.  Right now I'm in a ubuntu livecd.01:30
BluesKaj!partition01:31
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in !GNOME under !Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For !Edgy and later, see !fstab and !DiskMounter01:31
BluesKaj!grub01:32
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto01:32
navetzdoes anyone know what I have to download to be able to watch movies from nba.com ?01:32
navetznot even movies, just highlight reels01:32
frank23BluesKaj: how can I create a partition and specify the starting and ending sector01:33
osirisBluesKaj, while that was appreciated, no help01:33
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BluesKajthe first suggestion was to use GParted as a partitioning tool. I01:37
Kubuntu-userI've installed riva tnt2commercial drivers.after that my ubuntu7.04was rebooted.my os is fully updated.the problem is fact that my hi-res is 800x60001:38
vltHello. I fetched the source of a package (`apt-get source pkgname`), extracted it (`tar -xzf pkgname-version.tar.gz`) and modified a .cpp file. Does anyone know the easiest way to get an installable .deb file?01:38
TD-Linuxvlt: make01:39
BluesKajfrank23, Gparted is easy to use and works well , looks like you have your work cut out for you with all those partitions .01:39
TD-Linuxwell build it01:39
TD-Linuxthen instead of make install01:39
navetzhttp://boss.streamos.com/wmedia/nba/nbacom/nbatv_top10/top10_080322.asx01:39
john_doehi... i actually try to install the madwifi driver, but when a put make in the consolo, the system said "cc: ./../kernelversion.c: doesnt exist" my question is what is the kernelvercion.c or how can i resolve the problem01:39
TD-Linuxuse checkinstall01:39
navetzcan anyone play that ?01:39
Jucato!checkinstall | vlt01:39
ubotuvlt: checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!01:39
TD-Linuxnavetz: loading01:39
frank23BluesKaj: I need to be able to specify the exact starting sector to repair this.01:40
navetzTD-Linux: what do i have to download to play it?01:40
navetzTD-Linux: mine does nothing01:40
frank23BluesKaj: I can't find that option in gparted01:40
TD-Linuxworks perfect for me01:40
TD-Linuxnavetz, what program is it using?01:40
TD-LinuxI think I'm using mplayer01:40
TD-Linuxeither that or xine01:40
navetzTD-Linux: it is trying to opem with mplayer01:40
TD-Linuxone of the browser programs01:40
TD-LinuxI can't tell what it is exactly01:40
TD-Linuxyeah kmplayer plugin01:41
BluesKajhmm, that's beyond my scope frank23, sorry ...maybe someone else can help ...guys ?01:41
TD-Linuxit should load in mplayer after about a minute of downloading...01:41
vltTD-Linux: Is this the way it's done by the ubuntu repository maintainers?01:41
TD-Linuxvlt, no01:41
kgoetzfrank23: if your working to the sector try cfdisk or fdisk01:41
Jucatovlt: no. to be honest, checkinstall is not recommended/shunned by them :)01:42
sourcemakerhow many iterations are requiired... so erase the hard disk secure with SHRED?01:42
kgoetzvlt: re your questionw ith source. use dpkg-buildpackage01:42
Apple_CatDoes anyone know of a command to show some basic information about computers on a network ?01:42
frank23kgoetz: I tried cfdisk but couldn't find how but it could be there somewhere...01:42
kgoetzsourcemaker: depends how secure you want to be01:42
kgoetzApple_Cat: what informatio?01:43
vltkgoetz: That's the "official" way?01:43
sourcemakerI will sell my old hard drive and I am not interessted that somebody can revovery personal data01:43
TD-Linuxseriously no one has even figured out a way to read it without one wipe01:43
Jucato!packaging | vlt01:43
ubotuvlt: The packaging guide is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment - See also !backports01:43
kgoetzvlt: you could say that. its absolutely preferable to checkinstall01:43
vltkgoetz: Ok, thank you.01:43
TD-Linuxanyway it would be horribly difficult and expensive to read a drive that has been erased01:44
kgoetzsourcemaker: half a dozen iterations isgood enough. more then that if your trying to hide something from ASIO :)01:44
fuhrealhow can i kill an app if a terminal won't launch?01:44
TD-Linuxso unless it has top-secret military information on tactical nuclear weapons, you are probably safe01:44
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Apple_Catkgoetz: basically  just hostname, ip01:44
sourcemakerTD-Linux: cool :-)01:44
* kgoetz realises hes here to do study, and has wound up helping here again01:44
kgoetzApple_Cat: for a remote system, oryour local system?01:45
sourcemakerTD-Linux: but I haven't military informations... :-)01:45
Apple_Catremote system01:45
Armagguedesany firewall gui you can recommend? i used to use Guarddog (i think), but after i booted it the first time if i did not launch the app i would not have a functional network connection...01:45
kgoetzApple_Cat: not sure01:46
SlimeyPeteArmagguedes: try firestarter?01:46
Apple_Catk, thanks anyway :)01:46
Armagguedesguarddog, firestarter.. what else is there?01:47
SlimeyPetenot aware of any others01:47
SlimeyPete!firewall01:47
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).01:47
SlimeyPete*shrug*01:47
Armagguedesok thanks01:48
BluesKajApple_Cat, how about just smb:/ in the konq addressbar ?01:48
JasonWardwhat is the command to update ubuntu?01:50
Dr_willistheres dozen of firewall configuration tools out. : ) depends on what you need.01:50
kgoetz!dist-upgrade JasonWard01:51
kgoetz!dist-upgrade | JasonWard01:51
ubotuJasonWard: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes01:51
JasonWardtnx01:51
nonewmsgswhy is there no one in kubuntu+101:52
vltkgoetz: `aptitude search dpkg-build` returns no match. What package do I need?01:53
kgoetznonewmsgs: all the +1s are in #ubuntu+101:53
Dr_willisbecause its #ubuntu+101:53
kgoetzvlt: dpkg-buildpackage , as i said above01:53
nonewmsgsoh thanks kgoetz and dr_willis01:53
kgoetzvlt: also look at the page Jucato pointed you to :)01:53
vltkgoetz: Yes, that's a very large one ;)01:54
c-ronhi01:54
kgoetzvlt: yes it is :) not sure if theresa  smaller version anyware01:55
kgoetzsince what you want to do isnt very complex01:55
c-ronif i upgrade to hardy to help test, and want to install kde 4 at a later time, is it a pain in the b4lls?01:55
pat5starnonewmsgs: I resemble being called a 'no one' :)01:55
pat5starnonewmsgs: s/resemble/resent/01:56
kgoetzpat5star: resent? :)01:56
kgoetzhehe01:56
pat5starkgoetz: :)01:56
pat5starc-ron: you don't have to upgrade to hardy yet for kde4, I'm on gutsy and have kde4 installed, and can choose from my login screen whether to boot kde3 or kde401:57
c-ronpat5star, nice.01:58
bbthow do i specify a user/group for samba for an ntfs mount ?01:58
pat5starc-ron: I can look for the link for you if you want, but it's in ubuntu's how to guide...very easy to do01:58
Jucatofor Hardy-related questions: #ubuntu+1 and for KDE4 questions: #kubuntu-kde401:58
c-ronokay... pat5star .. that's okay... i just want to upgrade to see how may bugs i can find and help fix to that the next ubuntu rocks hard like death metal01:59
* pat5star is very impressed with kde4, but still using kde3.5 till some last bugs are ironed out01:59
drbrownquick question about KDE 4, how do you change the clock from 24 hour to am/pm?01:59
Jucatodrbrown: might find more KDE4 users in #kubuntu-kde402:00
drbrownsorry02:00
drbrownthanks02:00
pat5starc-ron: that's cool of you. I'd like to do that too but not very helpful, if only they needed java programmers :P02:01
pat5staractually my last statement got me wondering...what is kde programmed in mostly? If I had to guess, I'd say c++02:02
Jucatomostly C++02:02
Jucatoyou can user other languages as long as there are bindings for them02:03
Artimuspat5star: KDE in C++.  A lot of apps that come with Kubuntu were written in Python (PyQT)02:03
pat5starJucato: ya, and I'm lost in that...been poking around a little with C lately but still much to learn02:03
Artimus(the system config apps, that is002:03
JucatoArtimus: pyKDE02:03
pat5starJucato: but I doubt Java is one of them02:03
ArtimusJucato: sure, my mistake02:03
Jucatopat5star: KDE doesn't have one yet. but there's Qyoto for Qt+Java02:04
Jucatoer sorry02:04
JucatoJambi02:04
JucatoJambi = Qt + Java (from Trolltech). Qyoto = Qt + Mono (3rd-party)02:04
Jucatopat5star: you don't need to learn C before you start learning C++02:04
Jucatoif C++ is your goal02:04
kgoetzC > C++02:05
pat5starJucato: I make a living programming server side, which java excels at. I've never had the need for C or C++, but wish I had taken the time to learn it, just so I could help with add ons, bug fixes. Hard to fit into my schedule tho :(02:05
Jucatokgoetz: ">" statements are mostly subjective :)02:06
Jucatoanyway let's not get into a programming language discussion here02:06
kgoetzJucato: sure :)02:06
pat5starJucato: agrees, but vi is better than emacs :P02:07
kgoetz:( ubotu doesnt start wars02:07
Jucato(btw kgoetz, if you say C > C++, you should love GTK/GNOME more :P)02:07
kgoetzJucato: i run GNOME :P02:07
Jucatopat5star: none of that either :P02:07
sourcemakerhow bad is the performance when I use kubuntu with an encrypted file system? It's is maybe better to create a encrypted patition for the user home?02:07
Jucatoheh02:07
pat5starJucato: just kidding around...that's got to be one of the oldest flame war starter topics, don't you think? lol02:07
Jucatopat5star: C vs C++ is I think older :P02:08
kgoetzpat5star: i think unix v multis is older :D02:08
prince_jammyslet's keep it objective, like 5>4, or kde > gnome02:08
kgoetzJucato: i'd be supprised, both tools predate C++02:08
Jucatokgoetz: oh right... C++ hehe02:08
Jucatoanyway02:08
pat5starhmmmm...I've never got into a lively discussion about which program vs another program is the best for starting flame wars :P02:08
prince_jammysme neither02:09
kgoetzpat5star: dpkg > ubotu (it has 'start an [editor,language] war) as afunction ;)02:09
kgoetz(dpkg debians bot, not the package management tool)02:09
* Jucato dons his op hat and raises the !offtopic warning flag02:10
prince_jammyskaffeine > starbucks02:10
prince_jammyssorry02:10
prince_jammysanyway now for some support02:11
* kgoetz tempts fate by takin Jucato 's hat and putting it on prince_jammys 02:11
kgoetz(then stops tempting)02:11
pat5starnetscape vs IE? mozilla vs opera? mac vs linux? vi vs emacs? kubuntu vs ubuntu (to feebly attempt to bring it back on topic!), dolphin vs konqueror? etc. etc. etc. lol02:11
pat5staror actually how about a serious one? I use konversation with kubuntu...what does everyone else use in kubuntu for an irc client?02:12
prince_jammyskonversation02:13
SlimeyPeteI use irssi, via ssh.02:13
Dr_willisi tend to use xchat on all my mchines and os's02:13
Dr_willis:)02:13
kgoetztd-linux uses konversation ;)02:13
prince_jammysembrace diversity02:13
asobianyone use guarddog? i need to open ports for dcc02:14
pat5starprince_jammys: is that an irc client? I've never heard of it02:15
pat5starprince_jammys: or is that a statement? :)02:15
Dr_willis!compiz02:17
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion02:17
BysmuthMagecan the kubuntu live CD image be burned onto a DVD disc and still work (in a DVD drive, of course) or is there some part of the install data that is CD-specific?02:18
BysmuthMageI ask because I'm fresh out of blank CDs but I have some DVDs lying around02:18
SlimeyPeteas far as I know, CD ISOs don't work when burned to DVD. I believe there is an unofficial DVD image available though.02:19
pat5starBysmuthMage: sure you can02:19
Dr_willis!find  python-compizconfig02:19
ubotuFound: python-compizconfig02:19
pat5starBysmuthMage: you just need to be sure, or change if possible, your bios settings to boot from dvd02:19
Dr_willis!find  python-sexy02:19
ubotuFound: python-sexy02:19
Dr_willis!info  python-sexy02:20
ubotupython-sexy (source: sexy-python): python language bindings for libsexy. In component main, is optional. Version 0.1.9-1ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 13 kB, installed size 132 kB02:20
Dr_willis!info  python-compizconfig02:20
ubotupython-compizconfig (source: compizconfig-python): Compiz configuration system bindings. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.5.2+git20070912-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 28 kB, installed size 136 kB02:20
JucatoDr_willis: please PM the bot for searches. thanks02:20
* Dr_willis hugs the bot.02:20
Dr_willisya got to wonder who uses the term sexy to name their libraries.02:21
BysmuthMaged'you know off the top of your head if a Dell inspiron 5100 is set up to boot from DVD?02:21
BysmuthMagelong shot there... I guess I'll have to check myself02:21
Dr_willisBysmuthMage,  most machines these days are set to boot the optical drive by default.02:22
pat5starBysmuthMage: I don't, but if you try something like f10 or tapping del while it's starting (or if you know exactly which key to type), it will put you into the bios settings where you can check/change whether it boots from cd/dvd02:23
pat5starfirst02:23
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BysmuthMageis there ever a separate BIOS setting for different types of media in the same drive? because I know I can boot from that drive with a CD02:24
SlimeyPetethere's not02:25
BysmuthMagesorry... I don't do much with BIOS I swear I'm better with the rest of the computer02:25
kgoetzare you sure its a dvd drive?02:25
BysmuthMageyeah it is, I'm not having problems ... yet... I was just checking beforehand02:26
BysmuthMageoo my windows machine has a virus... let's all share a moment of pointing and laughing (at Windows)02:27
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enoj_I just installed kubuntu, what do I need to install to view xvid videos?02:28
posingaspopularenoj_: kubuntu-restricted-extras02:29
Dr_willisi tend to watch my xvid videos in gmplayer, or vlc, or others.. that restricted-extras package may grab any needed codecs you may need. :)02:29
Dr_willisI got a little setup script i wrote that installs several dozen packages on my new installs. I forget what   is not  default.02:30
kgoetz!codecs | enoj_02:31
ubotuenoj_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:31
orencan someone help me? how do i play h264 files?02:44
orenim a total noob too02:44
Dr_willisoren,  You may need the kubuntu-restricted-ectras package. and perhaps the w32codecs package.02:44
sayersh264 files02:45
sayersNever ever heard of that02:45
Dr_willisi play h264 codec videos all the time here. :)  so its just a matter of geting the proper codecs/players02:45
BobSappi play h264 with mplayer it works ok02:45
oreni have xinze, kaffine, and vlc02:45
BobSappif you have a fast enuff pc02:45
BobSappkaffine is a very good player actually02:46
orendo need a special codec?02:46
Dr_willisi have mplayer tweaked how i like it.02:46
Dr_willisoren, the kubuntu-restricted-ectras package. and w32codecs package. should include all you need02:46
orenalso anyone know a download manager that will speedup downloads, firefox is slow,02:47
Dr_willisoren, the kubuntu-restricted-extras package.02:47
orenok cool02:47
Dr_willisa download manager wont help much i imagine.02:47
Dr_willisyou on dialup?02:47
GEISother than ssh,how do i control kubuntu with gui over the net02:47
BobSappi just installed hardy lol02:47
orenin winows i used to use a program called internet download manager02:47
Dr_willisGEIS,  vnc, freenx, or ssh -X remotebox and run the apps.02:47
Dr_willisoren,  i havent found download managers to be that benifitial for me since i am no longer on dialup.02:48
Dr_willisoren,  what are you downloading anyway?02:48
GEISssh -x is x11 forwarding?02:48
BobSapp-X02:48
oreni am on cable 10mb conncetion but  from the website im gettign 160k where will a dl manger program i used to run 8 connections and dl at 1.3mbs02:48
Dr_willis-X and -x are DIFFERenT :)02:48
lanoxxhello, i have a question, when i put in a dvd there ususally comes up a menu to choese what action to take, i accidentially ticked the option to take a certain action all the time. how do i get the menu back?02:49
Dr_willisoren,  from what ive seen a lot of the servers detect people doing that. :) byt you can search the package manager for 'download' i guess and see whats available.02:49
Erickj92how do i get FireFox 3 Beat 2?02:49
Dr_willisabout the only download tool i use is wget. and its not really a download manager like windows peoples are used to.02:50
Erickj92Beta*02:50
orenwhats wget?02:50
Dr_willisoren,  a download tool.02:51
oreni use easynews.com02:51
BobSappgets files basically02:51
Dr_williswget ftp://foobar.zip02:51
Dr_willisIts very handy in scripts and so forth.02:51
BobSappi dont really use download accelerators, i tend to use torrents mostly02:52
lanoxxhello, i have a question, when i put in a dvd there ususally comes up a menu to choese what action to take, i accidentially ticked the option to take a certain action all the time. how do i get the menu back?02:52
orennewsgroups are worth the money and much faster02:52
Dr_willisMoney? I normally use the free ones... wget is not a newsgroup downloader.02:53
Dr_willisit depends on what you are wanting to get I guess. :) havent used newgroups in proberly a year or more.02:53
WeaponXdoes Grub come default wiht kubuntu install?02:54
Dr_willisgrub is the default boot loader. yes WeaponX .02:54
Dr_willisits normlly installed as one of the last steps of the install process02:55
WeaponXty02:55
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dwidmannWow, pretty dead in here tonight03:07
maduseryeah03:08
BobSapphow do i install the autocomplete thing for bash?03:08
maduser?03:08
BobSappanyone remember the package name?03:08
BobSappoh nvm03:08
dwidmannBobSapp: I thought it was just something you had to turn on in your .bashrc03:10
tahirhi03:10
tahiri was wondering03:11
tahirwhere is menu.lst?03:11
maduserfor?03:11
madusergrub?03:11
tahirgrub03:11
maduserah its in boot/grub03:11
Dr_willistip of the day. learn to use the locate command.03:11
Dr_willislocate menu.lst03:11
Dr_willis:)03:11
tahirwhere should i type that next time?03:11
madusershell03:11
Dr_willis!shell03:11
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal03:11
tahirah kk03:12
BobSappdwidmann: yeah thanks03:12
Dr_willisTip #2 of the day - The shell is our friend. :)03:12
dwidmannDr_willis: and the find command too ..... it can be even more useful03:12
Dr_willisdwidmann,  depends on the details. :)03:12
Dr_willisI use find when building up scripts. and locate for a system wide fast search.03:12
maduserlets see03:12
dwidmannDr_willis: same03:12
maduser/boot/grub/menu.lst03:12
maduser/usr/share/doc/grub/examples/menu.lst03:12
maduser/usr/share/doc/memtest86+/examples/grub-menu.lst03:12
madusergot it!03:12
Dr_willisI have a large # of hard drives. Locate works best for me and my stuff.03:12
maduseryou can execute shell commands in converstion03:13
tahirone more question, to open a program under root permissions i type "kdesu konqueror" (or w/e the program is) but when i try and open a .txt file it says "KDEInit could not launch kate"03:13
Dr_willismaduser,  locate uses a database for its searches use 'sudo updatedb' to update the database. It auto updates like once a day03:13
jcgkffycsdose some one know how to dissable fsck on startup?03:13
dwidmannDr_willis: thing that hurts slocate IMHO is that when I need to find a file that I just recently put in and/or installed, I have to wait a minute for the database to rebuild (ie: sudo updatedb)03:14
Dr_willistahir,  for root level editing of files. you proberly want to use kdesu kate /path/to/file03:14
Dr_willisdwidmann,  its a tradeoff.03:14
maduser/home/kevin/.sudo_as_admin_successful03:14
maduser/etc/pam.d/sudo03:14
maduser/etc/sudoers03:14
maduser/var/lib/dpkg/info/kdesudo.list03:14
maduser/var/lib/dpkg/info/kdesudo.postrm03:14
dwidmannindeed03:14
Dr_willistahir,  or better learn to use the console editor. sudo nano /path/to/file03:14
Dr_willistahir,  running the gui file manager as root - can cause problems.03:14
tahirim guessing alot of stuff is done in console in linux?03:14
maduseryeah03:15
tahirah kk, im going to have to get use to that03:15
tahirsorry for the lame questions, i just started03:15
Dr_willistahir,  its easier from an irc-tech point of view to tell you a text command  :)03:15
dwidmannDr_willis: viiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii03:16
Dr_willislinux is all about layers.03:16
Dr_willisoften its much easier to use a command, then a gui tool03:16
tahirah ic03:16
tahirso how long does it take to get use to it03:16
spawn57heh I first learned about layers from the OSI model03:16
tahirive been a windows user for years now and i finally think i have enough knowledge to start linux03:17
madusercan you use command prompt?03:17
tahiryep03:17
tahirbut alot of the basic stuff03:18
tahirnothing too complex for me03:18
maduserthen unix should be easy'03:18
dwidmanntahir: sounds like an *** backwards approach. Coming from another OS can actually make it harder to learn Linux03:18
tahiruh oh03:18
dwidmannLots of habits to break ..03:18
maduserlike?03:19
dwidmannGUI overdependence?03:19
tahirwell i just figured a semi pro user of windows is the same as a linux nub03:19
lanoxxthe kubuntu system settings seems to be short of many options, is there a way to get the usual kde settings menu?03:19
dwidmannlanoxx: alt + space then type "exec kcontrol"03:20
Dr_willislearn the fundamentals, link the basics together. :)03:21
maduserwhats kapult for anyway?03:21
lanoxxdwidmann: cool, thanks. i wonder why there is no link to it in the menu03:21
Dr_willisa pro-windows user -  has just memorized where all the  setting tools are at in windows.. :)03:21
dwidmannlanoxx: you can add one03:21
dwidmannmaduser: quickly launching things03:21
lanoxxsure, now i know03:22
dwidmannlanoxx: right click on the panel, configure panel, menus tab, optional menus box, check "settings"03:23
tahirhah its true Dr_willis03:23
tahirwindows just makes things so much easier03:23
tahirbut thats probably because im use to it03:23
Dr_williswindows makes some things much harder..03:24
tahirto be honest, linux kind of scares me03:24
dwidmanntahir: it is .... after a while you'll find that some things are a pain in Windows when compared with Linux in general03:24
lanoxxdwidmann: thanks, its there now :)03:25
tahirbrb03:25
tahirhave to restart03:25
Dr_willishalf the problems new users have with linux - is their bad-windows-habbits getting in the way03:25
lanoxxanyone know what %F does in wxvlc %F03:25
Dr_willislanoxx,  i would guess 'path/filename'03:26
lanoxxits strange, typing wxvlc dvd:// in the console plays the dvd, but when i set it in the autoplay settings i get /media/cdrom0 is not a file03:28
ErtainHello everyone.  I have two problems.03:29
ErtainOne, Firefox is stopping my X server for no apparent reason.  I thought it was Flash, but that wasn't it.03:30
Dr_willislanoxx,  it may be trying to mount /media/cdrom0 when it shouldbe /media/cdrom03:30
ErtainAlso my networking service isn't starting at boot up, even though it's listed as starting up on boot in System Services.03:30
dwidmann Dr_willis, lannoxx: no, apparently it forces that argument onto the command even though you didn't put it  there, I was never able to get that to work either03:35
Dr_willismake a script that takes the arument and trims out the extra bits I guess?03:36
Dr_willisI never play dvd's :) and i never want to autoplay or autostart anything with optical media either.03:36
Dr_willis:)03:36
asobineed help with dcc03:37
tiffanyneed help with scandisk usb flash drive03:40
* Dr_willis waits for some more details03:41
asobiyou have to mount a drive before you can use it03:41
asobii can't dcc get03:41
asobihave tried opening ports03:41
asobietc etc03:41
asobii think it's guarddog03:41
tiffanyhow do I get to system services on disk, not just files03:42
asobibut doc on that is rather poor?03:42
Dr_willisyou could just disable the firewal competely asobi  get the files.. then reenable it.03:42
asobii could03:42
Dr_willistiffany,  that made no secne to me what so ever.03:42
asobibut isn't there a way to do with the firewall on?03:42
Dr_willisasobi,  proberly - see if theres a iptables faq/howto, and perhaps the guarddog web site/faq/forums  may have the exact settings you need.03:43
Dr_willisI dont use a firewall My router handles it.03:43
asobibesides, i am not certain it's the firewall03:43
tiffanyon the S3 scandisk is a format and programs it says linux comp. but its not working right03:43
asobithat's the thing, the guarddog documentation is very poor03:43
Dr_willisasobi,  its just a gui to the iptables commands.. so you could use guarddog to build the iptables rules, then edit the rules as you want.03:44
Dr_willisif you have a router also. it might be the router causing the problems03:44
asobii opened ports in router already03:44
asobiand i think i did for firwall as well03:45
asobithink is the operative word03:45
Dr_willisasobi,  so you say it works with the firewall being disabled?03:45
asobino03:45
asobilet me try that now03:45
Dr_willisif the router has a 'dmz' setting - set that pc to be in the dmz, and  disable the firewall, see if it works. :)03:46
asobiyes03:46
asobiworks with firewall off03:46
ErtainCan anyone figure out why my network service is not starting at boot up?03:46
asobiso clearly it's the firewall03:47
asobi-__03:47
* asobi goes back to reading03:47
Dr_willisasobi,  do you even need the firewall?03:48
asobiO.o03:48
Dr_willisthe router is proberly blocking most of all what you want blocked.03:48
Dr_willisTHis isent windows. :)03:49
asobiwell03:49
asobii don't really know much about routers03:49
Dr_willisI doubt if you are gaining much by the firewall.  of course its a good topic to learn about03:50
asobii know port forwarding and similar simple tasks03:50
asobibut otherwise, not much else03:50
asobiheh03:50
Dr_willisuse one of those network scan sites to see what it says about your router.03:50
asobilink?03:50
Dr_willisgoogle.com03:50
Dr_willis:)03:50
Dr_willisI dont know what sites are around any more. grc.com used to be popular.03:50
asobiany one will work?03:51
asobior do i need one for kubuntu?03:51
Dr_willistry several....03:51
Dr_willisthere are none specific for a single os.03:51
Dr_willisThey are web sites taht scan your ip - and tell you what ports are open03:51
=== Randune is now known as Randuni
Randunihi all03:53
asobithanks, scanning now03:54
Randunican I ask a question in here about Kubuntu 8.04 beta?03:54
asobido it in #kubuntu+103:54
Randunik..thx03:54
asobimaybe it's #ubuntu+103:54
Randunihi all04:00
Randuniwhen I boot the beta cd and select the option "try kubuntu without altering your system"..I just get dumped to: Busybox v1.1.3 (initramfs) _04:00
asobii assume you mean live cd?04:02
asobicheck if you meet system requirements04:02
asobior better yet, wait for official release?04:03
Smurf-SlayerCan uNSLUng 6.10 use a Fat16/Fat32 disk or does it have to be etx3?04:09
RanduniI found the prob..thx all04:10
=== bones is now known as SRN9
SRN9Hey just a qestion, anyone know how to get a video off of a verizon phone with sound?04:12
boblenyHey,is there a reason why my screen saver doesn't come on? I'm running Kubuntu 7.10... There is no error.04:17
Apple_Catsounds offtopic, SRN9; #kubuntu-offtopic04:18
boblenyWhat sounds offtopic?04:20
boblenyOK, this chat is dead today...04:21
boblenyBye!04:21
Apple_Catargh04:21
asobiheh04:22
Dr_willisHmm...04:25
maduserw00t04:25
Dr_willisKtorrent every os often just wants to start failing to save files/data... if i restart ktorrent it works fine.. then a few hrs later.. same problem04:26
ere4sikaffeine is a nice little app :)04:30
re-alignI'm looking for a small mailserver that can be utilized in a standard Apache/MySQL/PHP setup by sites being hosted (via php scripting). Any recommendations?04:39
re-align!mailserver04:45
ubotuUbuntu supports the Simple Mail Transfer Protocol (SMTP) and provides mail server software of many kinds. You can install a basic email handling configuration with the "Mail server" task during installation, or with the "tasksel" command. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MailServer and https://help.ubuntu.com/7.10/server/C/email-services.html04:45
re-alignubotu, why is there no Kubuntu version of you?04:49
franxhi there04:49
ere4si  !hi04:49
ubotuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!04:49
re-alignIt's mostly dead in here, only ubotu to keep us company...:P04:50
franxi hope im not bothering anyone, but i want to clone one linux hard drive to another04:50
franxreally?04:50
dbgltfranx: dd!04:50
franxquiet eh04:50
ere4si!clone04:50
ubotuTo replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate04:50
franxi need it aka ghost style cos the hard drive is failing04:50
re-align!backup04:51
ubotuThere are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning04:51
ere4simondo and mindi is what you're after04:51
ere4sithey are both in the repos04:52
=== NetersLandreau_ is now known as NetersLandreau
franxere4si thanks for your answer however i dont think a package installed on the failing hard drive will assist me04:53
franxi need it to be external to the os04:53
ere4sifranx: I use a knoppix dvd to do that04:53
franxcan you tell me more?04:54
ere4sicomes with mondo and mindi04:54
ere4sicomes with lots of apps - if you have a partition somewhere to move stuff to it can save some stuff from ailing drives04:55
franxcan i clone from hard drive to hard drive?04:56
franxor just make an iso?04:56
ere4siI use it to make a cd backup of an installation that will let me reinstall the system as it was - you might need two steps - I've never done it straight to hd04:58
tahir!flash04:58
ubotuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash04:58
dwidmannfranx: dd will allow you to both of those things05:00
dwidmann*to do05:01
ere4sidd won't set up the mbr05:02
ere4sior partition etc05:03
dwidmanntrue, but if all you want is an image of a partition you'll be okay with it .....05:04
dwidmannI haven't ever really tried to see if it'd do a whole drive with partitions and all ...... you're sure it won't?05:04
franxi think ghost 4 linux might do what i want05:04
ere4sidd won't05:04
ere4sian image is no good if you can't boot to it05:05
dwidmann*shrug* grub can fix that pretty easily05:06
ere4siyep - you're right ther :)05:06
ere4si*there05:06
franxi need it the dummiest friendliest05:06
franxi appreciate the banter though05:06
franxi didnt think anyone would be awake05:07
ere4si3 pm here :)05:07
dwidmannfranx: I'm nocturnal during the week05:07
franx2pm here ere4si05:07
dwidmann1am here05:07
franxwowcrack addict?05:07
re-align10pm here05:07
dwidmannnah, no wowcrack for me (satellite internet connection inhibits me from doing any real online gaming)05:08
franxoh bummer05:08
franxthere are stacks of wowcrack addicts in .au even though the pings are horrible05:08
re-alignBut extreme lag is fun!05:08
re-align:P05:08
dwidmannMy lag is exceedingly good right now, onlyl .... wait it's bad again ..... 891ms right now05:08
dwidmannthe connection drops aren't fun05:09
franxhow about internet when its raining?05:09
franx0%?05:09
dwidmannDepends how hard it's raining, anything more than a slight rain and the connection drops05:09
franx!g4l05:09
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about g4l - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi05:09
franxouch05:10
ere4si /msg ubotu !info ghost4linux05:10
franxhehehe05:10
dwidmann /msg ubotu !info ghost4linux05:10
franx<ubotu> Package ghost4linux does not exist in gutsy05:10
franxnewb ubotu05:10
franx=P05:11
franxnah i got it05:11
franxs'alright05:11
ere4sik05:11
kgoetzdd can do whole drive images05:11
franxyeah i know05:11
ere4siibm uses mondo and mindi05:11
franxi just need to to be completely os independant05:11
franxjust dump from one hd to another05:12
franxthe old ghost used to do it05:12
ere4sithat's a live cd then franx05:12
franxi dl ghost 1405:12
franxand its like some completely different program05:12
kgoetzmondo is good05:12
franxmondo will only make iso images as far as i read05:13
kgoetzyou read wrong :)05:13
franxreally?05:13
franxoO05:13
franxtell more05:13
kgoetzpretty sure05:13
franxcos it does seem pretty powerful05:13
kgoetzit can definitely restore over network (never done it, but saw the option)05:13
kgoetztape, hdd, network, cd/dvd05:14
franxok05:14
ere4siI restore the whole system from mbr to boot with mondo/mindi05:14
tahir!flash05:14
ubotuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash05:14
franxhmm ok05:15
franxill dl knoppix livecd then05:15
franxsorry for doubting05:15
franxtheres just so little info05:15
re-alignDoubt is a good thing...most of the time...05:15
kgoetz!msgthebot | tahir05:15
ubotutahir: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.05:15
tahirsorry05:16
re-alignI'm looking for a small mailserver that can be utilized in a standard Apache/MySQL/PHP setup by sites being hosted (via php scripting). Any recommendations?05:17
tahirhmm05:18
tahirflash does not seemto be working for m05:18
tahirme*05:18
tahirin followed the unstructions but still nothing :(05:18
re-align<windows support voice>Have you tried restarting your computer?</windows support voice> :P You using Firefox?05:19
kgoetztahir: if you asked a questionn it would be easier to help05:20
ere4sitahir: youtube is it?05:21
tahiryep05:21
tahiryoutube is a good example05:21
tahiri see the pics on the home page, i cliuck the page and get directed to the video page05:21
tahirbut just a black screen where the vid should be05:21
ere4sishockwave flash plugin from mozilla works for me tahir05:22
tahireven on konquerer?05:22
ere4sikonq uses the same engine05:22
tahirah kk, let me try it05:23
re-alignI've had bad experiences with Konq... I use Firefox and have no problems.05:23
Stofferwhat's the difference between the 8.04-beta-alternate iso and the -desktop iso?05:28
kgoetzdesktop is a live cd05:30
Zombocomkonqueror is awesome05:31
ZombocomI love the locate05:31
Zombocomsplit screen05:31
Zombocomfish05:31
Zombocometch05:31
Zombocomall that shit05:31
Zombocomthe file manager05:31
kgoetz!enter | Zombocom05:32
ubotuZombocom: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!05:32
Zombocomum OH SORRY05:33
ZombocomI was in the wrong IRC SERVER05:33
ZombocomI forgot about the like sfw nature of #kubuntu... sorry sorry sorry05:33
kgoetzZombocom: not sure what that was all about.05:33
Dr_willisswf nature?05:35
re-alignI'm looking for a dynamic DNS with a linux compatible tool for updating the url to your server's IP. Any suggestions?05:41
kgoetzdyndns does iirc05:41
re-alignAh, good. I used to use no-ip, but that was under windoze, dunno if they have a linux tool.05:42
re-alignMost companies don't seem to like supporting linux. :(05:42
kgoetzmy router does dyndns, so i havent checked for client side tools personally05:43
kgoetzyeah :(05:43
re-alignYet half of them use linux for their servers and such...05:43
kgoetzbecause no ones told management yet ;)05:44
re-alignAnd more and more offices are switching to linux too (especially with Windows S***sta).05:44
Dr_willismost of them cant see any profit in supporting linux. but they see profit in using linux05:50
re-alignExactly.05:52
re-alignMost of them probably end up developing their own specialized drivers and software (for stuff they can't find or get the needed performance out of with freely available stuff). Yet, they never sell or release any of it.05:54
re-alignWith perhaps a few exceptions...05:54
kgoetziirc ESR estimates 90% of code is written for in house use, and stays in house05:55
re-alignI don;t think they realize just how large the linux community is, for personal or business.05:55
re-alignThey are probably right. And all of that is essentially money down the tubes unless they get alot of use out of what's developed.05:56
re-alignDevelopers in those settings don't do it for free ya know...05:56
kgoetzre-align: so? if they had to write it in the first place they have to support it. theres no loss in making it public06:03
re-alignExactly.06:04
re-alignAnd yet...they don't...06:04
tahirWOW06:04
tahiri just reached a new level of nub06:04
tahiri tried running an exe file in kubuntu06:04
tahirXD06:04
re-alignBecause they don't see any gain in it either...06:05
re-alignI do it frequently. It's not working for you?06:05
tahirXD06:05
tahirbrb06:05
re-align!wine | tahir06:06
ubotutahir: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.06:06
re-alignHmm...lagbot? Or not a command?06:06
re-alignROFL06:06
re-alignSeems it was lagbot...06:07
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crashhandlerwhy kopete doesnt support chinese character...why why...how can i possibly enable it?06:30
Apple_Cat_!chinese06:48
ubotuFor Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道: #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk06:48
orthos05847381hello jucato06:56
smurfslover!testing06:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about testing - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi06:57
smurfslover!testing06:57
orthos05847381jucato: may I pm u?06:57
ere4sismurfslover: ...06:58
smurfsloveri'm looking for support for updating edgy to hardy06:59
ere4sismurfslover: you need to do that one release at a time07:00
smurfsloveri'm on 7.10 i think07:00
smurfsloverlet me check07:00
asobianyone here play nexuiz07:01
ere4sismurfslover: 7.10 is gutsy07:01
smurfsloverhow can i check07:02
ere4sie   f  g   h07:02
ere4si!version07:02
ubotuTo find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell07:02
asobiwhat's a good fps game?07:02
ere4siurban terror has support07:02
smurfslovergutsy it is07:03
kgoetznexuiz ftw07:03
ere4si!hardy | smurfslover07:03
ubotusmurfslover: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu07:03
asobiyou play kgoetz?07:03
smurfsloverbbl need to restart x to stop the upgrade tool07:03
* asobi is trying ti decide a fps to install07:03
kgoetzasobi: did do. not currently though07:03
asobihow many people still play nexuiz?07:04
* kgoetz doesnt fps anymore, or i'd still be doin nexuiz07:05
crashhandlerthe problem is i am just a beginner who wants to learn chinese...just knowing a little...so chinese channel cant help me...^_^;07:05
crashhandlerwhy kopete doesnt support chinese character...why why...how can i possibly enable it?07:05
kgoetzcrashhandler: install the chinese language files and fonts07:06
crashhandlerall done.07:06
crashhandlergaim,firefox display chinese chars07:06
crashhandlerbut not konqueror n kopete07:06
orthos05847381jucato: hello!?07:06
kgoetzorthos05847381: can we help with something?07:06
Dr_willisHmm.07:07
ere4simmmm07:07
asobihmmmm07:07
orthos05847381i need to speak with jucato07:08
crashhandlermmm...mmm07:08
orthos05847381:)07:08
kgoetzorthos05847381: then you have to wait for him to come back07:08
orthos05847381I want to interview him regarding Linux07:08
orthos05847381okay07:08
kgoetzorthos05847381: send him a PM and then wait for him to get back07:08
orthos05847381thanks kgoetz07:09
kgoetznp07:09
asobihow big is nexuiz exactly?07:13
asobihow do i save folder view options in konqueror?07:22
ere4si how do I get dolphin to open with hidden files shown?07:25
asobialt+.07:26
jorge_hi!07:27
ere4sithat opens them after dolphin is open - I want them open as default07:27
jorge_Someone Speak Spanish?07:28
asobi!es07:28
ubotuEn el canal donde esta solo se premite hablar ingles. Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.07:28
ere4si!es07:28
asobiah07:28
jorge_thanks!07:28
ere4sihehe07:28
asobiso you want the same thing i want but with dolphine07:28
Dr_willisasobi, settings -> save view profile07:28
Dr_willisMake new profiles if you want more.07:29
ere4sican do it with nautilus thunar etc07:29
asobihow do i make it open that way?07:29
dwidmannere4si: not sure that you can, but it saves that on a per folder basis.07:29
Dr_willisasobi,  save it as the default named one.07:29
asobii did07:29
ere4sidwidmann: that's alot of folders !07:30
asobii still have to load it everytime07:30
Dr_willissave view profile "File aaManagement" works here for me.07:30
Dr_willisnot 'Default'07:30
dwidmannere4si: it creates a file .d3lphinview07:30
dwidmannere4si: in each folder07:30
caris_mereI need help getting kdm to work...I installed kde4 and used kde4-kdm as my session manager, then uninstalled all that...and now my computer never makes it to kdm to login07:30
asobihmm07:31
Dr_williscaris_mere,  try a 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm' ?07:31
ere4siwell that is pretty poor then considering the level other file managers achieve07:32
dwidmannNow that's a pretty funny leaving message ....07:32
caris_mereDr_willis: does that just automatically work? I thought I tried that yesterday, but it didn't help07:32
Dr_williscaris_mere,  it works for me.07:32
caris_mereok07:32
dwidmannere4si: go to kde.org and put in a wishlist request then07:33
asobiwrong button -_-07:33
ere4siblaghhh07:33
ere4siit's basic07:33
Dr_willisUnless your konqueror is sgetting laujched and told to use a different profile.07:34
unix_infidelanyone know where i can find lighter ubuntu server images.07:34
unix_infideleffectively network installs?07:34
Dr_willisThe !install factoid has some info on that unix_infidel07:34
caris_mereDr_willis: can you tell me what your "/etc/X11/default-display-manager" says?07:34
Dr_willis!install | unix_infidel07:35
ubotuunix_infidel: Ubuntu can be installed in a lot of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall. Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate07:35
Dr_williscaris_mere,  /usr/sbin/gdm07:35
Dr_williscaris_mere,  since its a ubuntu box. :)07:35
jussio1!minimal | unix_infidel07:35
ubotuunix_infidel: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD07:35
unix_infideljussio1: awesome.07:36
asobinope, it still load web browser view first07:36
jussio1:)07:36
Dr_willisasobi,  HOW are you launching the thing?07:37
Dr_willisasobi,  i use the home button in the panel.07:37
caris_mereDr_willis: mine says /usr/lib/kde4/bin/kdm  Does that seem ok, since I removed kde4?07:37
Dr_williscaris_mere,  seems totally WRONG to me.07:37
asobii set a quick launch button for konqueror07:38
Dr_willisasobi,  thats why its defaulting to the web profile07:38
Dr_williskfmclient openProfile filemanagement07:38
Dr_willislaunches My Home filemanager.07:38
asobihow can i default it to file manager?07:38
Dr_willisis there a 'home' icon in the menu? drag it to the desktop/panel  see if that works07:39
asobii deleted that button07:39
jussio1!dolphin07:39
ubotuDolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.07:39
caris_mereDr_willis: I had read in Kubuntu forums that I could change it to /usr/bin/kdm .  What do you think?07:40
ere4siHow can I get dolphin to open folders with hidden files shown as default?07:40
Dr_williscaris_mere,  that makes MUCH more sence to me. then  to the kde4 kdm login tool.. which you removed me07:40
Dr_williscaris_mere,  thas what that dpkg-reconfigure command i gave earlier basicially doies07:41
Plantain!automate07:42
ubotuWays to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html - See also !cloning07:42
caris_mereDr_willis: I used the dpkg-reconfigure command, but it still puts the kde2 kdm in that file07:42
asobican dolphine split view into top/bottom?07:43
Dr_williscaris_mere,  that sounds like a bug to me.07:43
dwidmannere4si: doesn't seem to be a dcop command for flipping it either, so I think that rules out the option of turning on view hidden files within a startup script07:44
Dr_willisdolphine was rather basic lsat i used it.07:44
ere4sidwidmann: thnx for the efort :)07:44
ere4si*effort07:44
dwidmannere4si: well, that was d3lphin anyway, I wonder about dolphin07:45
ere4siit's such a necessary feature for me07:45
jussio1the kde4 dolphin does not have the problem with hidden files07:45
* dwidmann installs kdbus07:45
asobihow can i default konqueror into file manager instead of browser?07:45
jussio1!dolphin | asobi07:45
ubotuasobi: Dolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.07:45
jussio1asobi: sorry07:46
asobijuss, i am being unclear. when i click on konqueror, i want it to open as file manager, not web browser07:46
jussio1asobi: read wrong. change your menu item command to open: kfmclient openProfile filemanagement07:47
asobinewb here. how do i do that?07:47
dwidmann/usr/bin/konqueror --profile filemanagement works also07:48
asobiand i have it set as a quick launch button now07:48
jussio1asobi: right click on it, edit item07:48
caris_mereDr_willis: I am currently getting in by using the failsafe bootup and then typing kdm art the command line...and it has been working07:48
jussio1in the kmenu that is07:48
Dr_williscaris_mere,  you could just put 'kdm' in the rc.local :)07:49
asobiah07:49
asobiand change cmd07:49
Dr_willisim glad i never tried the kde4 stuff yet.07:49
jussio1yes :)07:49
caris_mereI wish I hadn't07:49
asobithank you07:50
jussio1asobi: yw07:50
dwidmannawww, kdbus doesn't seem to want to work :(07:50
asobiwhy did they change to dolphine? konqueror is superior ~_~07:51
dwidmannasobi: good question .... konqueror > d3lphin.07:52
Dr_willisthey wanted to make things more 'user friendly'07:53
* asobi finds konqueror more intuitive @_@07:54
asobiwow, kde menu editor is great07:54
dwidmannindeed07:55
dwidmannDr_willis: bah ..... screw user friendly07:55
Dr_willisdont get me started on bending over backwards for users that dont want to learn  how to use their tools. :)07:56
Dr_willisBut hay,, i tend to use mc in a xterm  90% of the time07:56
asobihaha07:56
asobimc is NOT user friendly =P07:56
simulai figured out how to set up and install my second sata drive, but i'm having permissions problems07:57
simulai have chmod 666 /dev/sdb107:58
Dr_willisasobi,  i find it very user friendly07:58
simulaand also chmod 666 /archive (the mount point)07:58
caris_mereDr_willis: it works now...did the manual changing of the session manager07:58
Dr_willisits rather stright forward and everything is lavled.. it says F8 = Delete...07:58
Dr_williswhat more do ya want.07:58
Dr_willis:)07:58
* asobi is visual =P07:58
simulabut when i use a non su terminal and try to cd to /archive i get "permission denied"07:58
Dr_willismc is very visual.07:58
dwidmannDr_willis: kioslaves?07:58
Dr_willis2 panes, a from and to... :)07:58
asobipictures07:58
asobigui07:58
Dr_willisdwidmann,  wthats what the fusekio stuff is for07:58
Dr_willisasobi,  mc can show images and videos on the console.07:59
Dr_willis:)07:59
simulai'm a total linux newbie, but the console is awesome07:59
asobioh?!07:59
simulatotally sweet07:59
Dr_willisor under X it even launches  other apps07:59
Dr_willisor at least it CAN if configured right07:59
* asobi only tried mc once...maybe i will look at it again07:59
Dr_williswhen you are doing some system rescue and need to do some complex filemanagement from the terminal. Mc is hard to beat07:59
asobimc is powerful...just not user friendly =P08:00
simuladoes anyone know how to give a normal user permissions to a mount point when chmod 666 doesn't do the trick?08:00
* jussio1 feels this discussion is getting offtopic, can we move back to support please?08:00
Dr_willisasobi,  i define it as bveing user friendly.08:00
dwidmannummm, fine, off to offtopic I go08:00
Dr_willisuserfriendly does not have to mean crippled.08:00
Dr_willis:)08:00
Dr_willissimula,  you normally DONT EVER chmod a mountpoint.08:00
Dr_willissimula,  the fstab has a 'user' or 'users' opton to allow the users to mount filesystems08:01
Dr_willisspecific filesystem have other options as well08:01
simulai dinked around in fstab with pico.... i guess i'll do more fstab research08:01
simulathanks dr. willis08:01
mot_ugh08:01
mot_how do i install xgl in kubuntu 7.10?08:01
Dr_willisfstab and mounting - are a must learn about aspect of linux. :)08:01
Dr_willis!xgl08:01
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion08:01
dwidmannsimula: man fstab = good source of research08:02
simulathanks dwidmann... thanks to you guys i'm starting to get up to speed on this linux thing :)08:02
mot_also, i installed the linux-restricted- drivers package but when i go to the restricted drivers app. and enter my root password it still stays greyed out and i can't enable the restricted nvidia drivers...08:02
Dr_willismot_,  i thoght it wasnted the users 'sudo' password. Not the root users password08:02
mot_same password08:03
mot_i enable root.08:03
Dr_willisyou could try a kdesu restricted-manager (if thats the proper name)08:03
mot_also08:04
mot_i have all of those packages for compiz installed08:04
mot_it's still claiming xgl isn't there08:04
mot_is there an xorg.conf config util?08:04
asobiwhat gpu mot?08:04
mot_nvidia08:05
asobi-_-  what nvidia?08:05
mot_6800 ultra08:05
Dr_willisnvidia has its own (2 of them) config tools to config the xorg.conf file08:05
Dr_willisnvid<tab>  :)08:05
asobinot familiar with that :/08:05
Dr_willisOh i see 3 now..  nvidia-glx-config     nvidia-settings       nvidia-xconfig08:06
jussio1mot_: you shouldnt need xgl for nvidia08:06
Dr_willisjussio1,  i was about to mention that also.. :)08:06
mot_also, one more question08:06
jussio1nvidia supports aiglx08:06
mot_yakuake won't retain my settings08:06
Dr_willisin fact xgl i think can caue problems if you install it on a nvidia system and try to remove it.08:06
mot_whenever i reboot, the height/width of yakuake have returned to default (though the schema remains the same) - ideas?08:07
asobihmm08:09
asobihow do i get rid of klamav from systray?08:10
Dr_willisright click on it?08:12
asobitried :/08:13
asobikmenu setting has systray unchecked08:14
Dr_williskmenu?  what does that have to do with klamav>08:16
* Dr_willis installs klamav to see..08:17
asobii meant kmenu editor thingy08:17
asobioh whoa, it's not that of a big deal...i don't want to to go through the trouble of installing it08:17
Dr_willisWhat does the kmenu editor have to do with klamvin tye system tray? right click on the icon in the systemtray08:17
asobithe kmenu editor has a checkbox asking if you want it in systray08:18
Dr_willisIts a whole 15mb! find a virus scanner for window thats   under that! :)08:18
Dr_willisthe kmenu editor edits the K menu... I dont see  where thats comming from.. :)08:18
Dr_willisor somthing has a confusing name08:18
asobiwhen i right click -> quit, it remains in systray @_@08:18
urlauberhi! is there a way in kate to search&replace in all open files?08:18
asobioh ok08:19
asobiforget kmenu editor08:19
Dr_willisRight click on the klamav icon in the system tray -> quit08:19
Dr_willis:)08:19
asobi <asobi> when i right click -> quit, it remains in systray @_@08:19
asobiit said that it won't quit if it's updating or scanning08:20
asobibut it's doing neither08:20
asobifar as i can tell08:20
asobimaybe i should kill it from terminal08:21
jussio1id wait a little08:21
jussio1try again in a bit, its possible it is doing something...08:22
Dr_willisit may ust be slow to download the updates08:22
asobiit shows when it's updating08:23
asobinot showing now08:23
asobii wait08:23
asobiit's not a big deal08:23
* asobi is picky about systray clutter >.<08:24
asobithanks for all the help so far^^08:24
simulai love it that i don't have to reboot :)08:25
simulamount -a... yeah!08:25
KalEldoes ktorrent have a command line interface?08:26
jussio1no, but bittorrent does08:27
Dr_willisdisable auto-updates for klamav -> and you can then quit it from the system tray08:31
Dr_willis:)08:31
ubuntuhi08:39
ubuntucan anybody help me out to  connect me to the internet?08:40
orthos05847381you are connected to the internet08:40
ubuntui'm from Windows08:40
ubuntuusing VirtualBox08:40
orthos05847381oh ok, what type of connection do you have?08:40
ubuntuADSL08:41
ubuntuI have a USB ADSL modem08:41
orthos05847381and you like to connect ubuntu to the internet right?08:41
ubuntuyep08:41
jussio1!adsl08:41
ubotuSetting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE08:41
ubuntubtw, i installed the firmware08:41
ubuntuthe LED's seems to be synched08:42
orthos05847381thats great08:42
ubuntusynched=synchronized08:42
orthos05847381have you tried running pppoeconf?08:42
ubuntuyep08:42
ubuntubut08:42
orthos05847381what did it say?08:42
ubuntui says sorry at last08:42
ubuntuit  says sorry at last08:42
orthos05847381"sorry at last"08:42
ubuntuno .it says..."Sorry..I tried to configure" blah blah...08:43
ubuntuit detects my ethernet too08:43
ubuntuas08:43
ubuntueth0108:43
orthos05847381strange, sorry man, thats beyond me08:44
ubuntuoh08:44
ubuntuwon't be there any probs. if i get a router?08:45
Apple_Cat_so you can get on the internet on your host system? or is it a problem with the host and guest ?08:45
ubuntumy PC has a dual boot system08:45
Apple_Cat_so you have windows on one and kubuntu on the other?08:46
ubuntuyep08:46
Apple_Cat_and there is no internet on the kubuntu one ?08:46
ubuntuyep08:46
ubuntuany help?08:46
Apple_Cat_are you trying to use dhcp ?08:47
ubuntuno08:47
ubuntui have enabled the roaming mode....that's all08:47
ubuntuwhy isn't kubuntu detecting my ethernet card even it's listed in the Driver Database?08:49
Apple_Cat_can you paste the output of lspci into a pastebin ?08:50
ubuntuin here?08:51
Apple_Cat_!paste08:51
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)08:51
ubuntuok08:51
ubuntujust give me 5 mnts...08:51
ubuntui'll be back08:51
gigi..08:56
DarkriftXi just installed kubuntu 7.10. during boot, i get some odd screen displays (shades of grey and lines changing colors/moving across the screen). I get this on the livecd if i dont use the acpi=off boot param. last time i installed, this was auto added for me. what is the easiest/best way to boot with this option from grub? i tried adding that line to the boot commands and it didnt seem to work08:59
DarkriftXthink i found it09:05
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DarkriftXor not09:06
christopherguten morgen jemand da der mir bitte helfen kann09:08
kgoetz!de | christopher09:09
ubotuchristopher: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de09:09
kgoetzchristopher: or you could ask here, if you use english :)09:10
ubuntuim back09:12
kgoetzwb09:12
Jucatoorthos05847381: pong. how can I help you?09:13
DarkriftXhow can i edit my boot params permanently?09:14
naught102anyone else having trouble opening konqueror? I'm getting "QDir::currentDirPath: getcwd() failed"09:14
Dr_willisDarkriftX,  chedk the menu.lst file.. BACKUP the thing first09:14
kgoetzDarkriftX: /boot/grub/menu.lst09:14
DarkriftXnice, ty09:14
ubuntui pasted the lspci to the link u gave09:16
ubuntulspci results09:16
Apple_Cat_do you have the URL to the page ?09:17
ubuntuhello?09:17
ubuntuyeah09:17
ubuntuwait09:17
ubuntuhere u go: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60834/09:17
ubuntudid u read it?09:18
kgoetzubuntu: dont be so impatient, and use proper words09:19
Apple_Cat_yep, so you said you aren't using dhcp, how did you set it up then ?09:19
ubuntuwat? i didn't set up anything in DHCP..09:20
Apple_Cat_I know, but how did you set your networking up if you aren't using DHCP ?09:20
ubuntuit's autoconfigured i think..I have installed the firmware and that's all..Is there any way to overcome this problem?09:21
ubuntufirmware means the firmware for the USB ADSL MODEM09:23
urlauberhi! is there a way in kate to search&replace in all open files?09:24
Apple_Cat_have you tried to use DHCP? it might end up making things easier, unless of course you have a particular reason for choosing not to09:25
Dr_willisurlauber,  hit f1 in kate and check its docs?09:25
DarkriftXduring boot, before x starts, its trying to init my wifi, but failing with irq_ready timeout, and the boot process isnt going anywhere09:26
DarkriftXhow do i make it just continue09:26
DarkriftXit keeps doing the timeouts every once in a while09:26
ubuntui clicked the Network monitor applet icon->Manual Configuration->09:26
ubuntuand selected DHCP09:27
ubuntuit shows that the icons of the two monitors are connected...09:28
ubuntuis there any way to configure the DHCP other than that?09:29
Apple_Cat_..wait you are on Kubuntu and not Ubuntu ?09:30
Dr_willistheres the config files in  /etc/ or the command line commands. i guess09:30
ubuntui'm using gnome09:31
Apple_Cat_Ok, try #ubuntu then : )09:31
ubuntuwhat?09:31
ubuntudoes that matter?09:32
Apple_Cat_This room is for KDE support, whereas ubuntu is for GNOME support09:32
ubuntuok09:32
ubuntuthanks anyway09:32
Apple_Cat_yep, hope you get it sorted out ^.^09:32
crazyjHow can I get the sd cards to read from my hp printer?09:53
Dr_williscrazyj,  good luck there. Even my widiws machines need special drivers for that.09:57
Dr_willisThey dident just make it a usb-media-reader hub (well this is on a canon printer)  i think my hp was the same way.09:58
crazyjon windows I had no probs but now that I switched i cant get anything09:59
Dr_willissure there wasent some special drivers that got installed?10:00
Dr_williscould try a sudo fdisk -l, and see if the cards are seen10:01
ramzay__How can i unrar my files ?10:01
Dr_willis!rar ramzay__10:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about rar ramzay__ - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi10:03
jussio1!rar | ramzay__10:03
uboturamzay__: rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free10:03
crazyjthe fidsk -I looks confused LOL10:03
Dr_willisramzay__,  unrar e whatever.rar10:03
ramzay__apt-get install unrar10:03
ramzay__than what ?10:04
jussio1ramzay__: what Dr_willis said...10:04
ramzay__thank u10:04
Dr_willisthen man unrar10:05
Dr_willisheh.10:05
crazyjis there a way to "scan" for new stoage dev?10:05
Dr_williswhen a device is plugged in. dmesg shows messages about it. and adds the proper /dev/ entris normally10:06
Dr_willisfdisk -l as in LIST.. not i...10:06
crazyjlooks like that brings up mr hard drive10:09
crazyjmy*10:09
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stefgHi, as a gnome-victim i haven't touched KDE for years. How does KDE4 compare to KDE3 in terms of memory footprint, is it feeling more heavy? i have a 800Mhz/256 MB laptop, and i wonder if it's worth to try a Kubuntu 8.04 install on it10:20
rawdealhello.. im looking for the links for my adept installer10:22
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rawdeali got 2 there only10:22
rawdealfor 2party software10:22
rawdealehh 3 party10:22
rawdealsomeone that can help me please? :)10:23
jussio1rawdeal: what exactly are you after?10:24
rawdealim trying to find software i found be4,.. and now i cant find any of them10:24
rawdeallike amsn valknut and so10:25
jussio1!info amsn10:25
ubotuamsn (source: amsn): An MSN messenger written in Tcl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.97RC1+dfsg-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 3371 kB, installed size 10956 kB10:25
jussio1hmm, if you go to adept, manage repositories, then make sure all the boxes are clicked.10:26
rawdealthey are.,,10:26
rawdealbut in third party software i have 2 links..10:26
rawdealand i had more before i think10:27
jussio1rawdeal: so you cannot find amsn now?10:27
rawdealcant find it at all when i do search10:27
rawdealapt-cache and adept10:27
jussio1rawdeal: aha, we dont support third party software repositories, you need to add them yourself - there are very many out there.10:28
rawdealoki.. where can i find the links to add?10:28
jussio1rawdeal: it depends on what you want. thats like asking, where can i find programs for download?10:29
rawdealhehe.. well the software i find.. but having probs with installing them10:30
jussio1rawdeal: like which software in particular?10:30
rawdealvalknut linuxdcpp dctc and so on10:31
rawdealcant find the libs needed and so10:31
jussio1rawdeal: as far as I understand, linuxdcpp is in the repositories. which version of kubuntu are you using?10:32
rawdeal7.1010:32
jussio1rawdeal: and you are certain you have the universe repository on?10:33
jussio1!info valknut10:33
ubotuvalknut (source: valknut): graphical client for Direct Connect. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.7-2.1ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 884 kB, installed size 3064 kB10:33
jussio1!info linuxdcpp10:33
ubotulinuxdcpp (source: linuxdcpp): Linux port of the famous dc++ client. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.0.1.cvs20070523-1 (gutsy), package size 1079 kB, installed size 3092 kB10:33
rawdealwhere to find that?10:34
rawdeali have marked all in software sources10:35
jussio1rawdeal: it will be one of the checkboxesin manage repositories10:35
rawdealand where is that?10:36
jussio1adept -> mananage repositories10:36
jussio1its in the adept menu10:36
rawdealno universe there10:37
lyhana8hi, is it ok to blacklist intel_rng ? to solve the boot slowing ?10:37
jussio1on the kubuntu software tab10:37
jussio1rawdeal: there should be a tab with them all listed main, universe, restricted multiverse (in brackets)10:38
rawdealyeah se them now,,10:40
rawdealall marked10:40
jussio1ok, so close the dialogue, and it should ask you to reload your sources, do so.10:41
rawdealit has been there all the time10:41
rawdealbut can it help do get the upgrade?10:42
jussio1ok, so you should be able to now find the programs you mentioned before10:42
jussio1gah, i got to run. see you10:42
rawdealnope cant find them10:42
rawdealoki bye bye10:42
brmassaguys, how can i edit a document as a root on HardyKDE4? im putting "kdesu kate" but its saying that kate is no a valid command...10:47
dwidmannbrmassa: maybe someone in #kubuntu-kde4 would know10:52
Apple_Cat_#kubuntu-kde410:52
Apple_Cat_^,^10:53
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brmassathanks.10:53
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christopherjetzt stimm ja garnix mehr11:09
christophernoch jemand da?11:10
dcorbin_workWhat's the name of the (gui) command that lets me add and remove packages?11:12
dcorbin_work(Drawing a total blank)11:12
dcorbin_workThe "Adept Installer" application isn't quite what I"m looking for.11:12
algyzdcorbin_work:  synaptic maybe11:15
dcorbin_workalgyz: I don't think.  I think it's part of the adept family, but when I click on Adept Installer, it gives me a very different view than the one I want.  I want to see all the package names and version.11:16
algyzwhich version of adept?11:17
dcorbin_workalgyz: "2.1 Cruiser"11:18
dcorbin_workMy /real/ problem is that when I try to start oocalc, it says: ** (process:7516): WARNING **: Unknown error forking main binary / abnormal early exit .11:19
dcorbin_workI was hoping remove and re-installing would correct this.11:19
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paule118de hi11:46
paule118ist de on ?11:46
Pici!de11:47
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de11:47
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Kheopshi12:03
Kheopsi have a problem can somebody helps me ?12:03
Kheopsi have 2 HDD - 1 Master , 1 Slave.Both HDD have kubuntu installed on them, but i want to format the slave hdd12:05
Kheopsi mounted and when i use cfdisk -> Opened disk read-only - you have no permission to write12:06
Kheopscan somebody tell me what to do ?12:06
dcorbin_workopenoffice won't start for me.  What's the best way, to re-install OO and everything it needs?12:06
algyzKheops:  change ownership/permissions12:07
Kheopsi did12:07
Kheopsi gave 77712:07
Kheopsand same message12:07
algyzKheops:  kdesu konqueror, then you can change in easy way12:07
Kheopsand then ?12:07
algyzthen right mouse on the folder, properties12:07
Kheopsi said i change the permission !12:08
* Jucato thinks it is cfdisk that should be run with sudo12:08
algyzKheops: check them, if everything is ok with write access12:08
Kheopsit is12:08
Kheops!12:08
Kheopsi just check12:08
Kheopsroot root root12:09
Kheops77712:09
Kheopsto hdd4012:09
Kheopsi want to format12:09
Kheopshe have kubuntu on it..12:09
algyzsudo qtparted then12:09
Kheops?12:09
JucatoKheops: did you run cfdisk with sudo?12:09
Kheopsyep12:09
Jucatoalgyz: never use sudo for GUI apps12:09
Jucatouse kdesu12:10
Kheopsthat messeger come12:10
Kheopsjucato12:10
Kheopscan u help me ?12:10
Kheopsfinish to format12:10
JucatoI already tried. but failed. so no12:10
algyzJucato:  I know this :)12:10
Kheopsso can i get some real help ?12:10
Jucato!patience12:10
ubotuThe people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines12:10
Kheops2 HDD both with kubuntu installed12:11
Kheopsbut 1 is slave and another is master12:11
Kheopsi want to format the slave12:11
Kheops...12:11
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KheopsCarlos can u help me ?12:12
algyzgo to this media (cd /address), and type ls -l12:13
algyzand paste output somewhere12:13
Kheopsky12:14
Kheopsdone12:14
Kheopslrwxrwxrwx  1 root root    6 2007-03-03 20:21 cdrom -> cdrom012:14
Kheopsdrwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 2007-03-03 20:21 cdrom012:14
Kheopsdrwxrwxrwx  5 root root 4096 2008-02-07 19:55 hda512:14
Kheopsdrwxrwxrwx 21 root root 4096 2008-03-24 12:32 hdd4012:14
pagKheops, unmont the partition, install qtparted, run it with root priveledges, format the drive, enjoy.12:15
algyzgood idea i think12:15
Kheopshmmm12:15
Kheopswhy i must install qtparted ?12:15
flipstar!enter | Kheops12:15
ubotuKheops: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!12:15
algyzKheops:  actually it's good idea to format from live cd12:16
Kheopsi just did12:16
Kheops:)12:16
algyzwithout success?12:16
Kheopsthat's why i have 2 kubuntu instaled12:16
Kheops:))12:16
Kheopsbecause i want to format the hdd12:16
algyzyou're really fan of kubuntu ;)12:16
Kheopsbut...i can't format without installing kubuntu12:16
Kheopsyes i'm12:17
Kheops;)12:17
pagKheops, errm.. when I last checked live cd had qtparted (and parted if you prefer cli) installed on it - no need to install when using those12:17
Kheopspag i can't format without installing12:18
Kheopsbelive me12:18
Kheopsi try12:18
algyzKheops:  no, you can12:18
Kheopshmm how ?12:18
Kheopsi enter the settup..12:18
Kheopsi formatted and then pres cancel.12:19
Kheopsto exit installation12:19
pagKheops, no. you don't enter the setup12:19
Kheopsand HDD still same12:19
Kheops:)12:19
algyzit is not necessary12:19
pagKheops, you press alt+f2 and type 'kdesudo qtparted'12:19
algyzKheops:  just run qparted, dude12:19
Kheops...... i don't know that man12:19
algyznow you know12:19
Kheopsnow i unmount my partition12:19
Kheopswhat i must do12:20
Kheopsto run qtparted12:20
algyzkdesu qparted12:20
Kheopsky12:20
Kheopshow can i see if i have12:20
Kheopsthe program12:20
Kheops?12:20
pagalgyz, hmm.. are you sure, it's qparted instead of qtparted?12:20
algyzit's not started?12:20
Kheops:)12:20
algyznot sure :/12:20
Kheopsi duno if i have it12:20
Kheopscommand not found12:21
Kheopsqparted12:21
Kheops:)12:21
Kheopsi don't have it i think12:21
pagKheops, open konsole (you know how to do that, right?) and type 'sudo apt-get install qtparted'12:21
algyzit is qtparted12:21
Cortyhi12:21
Kheopsyep12:21
Kheops10x12:21
Kheopsjust apt-get install qtparted because i'm running as root12:22
Kheops:)12:22
algyzwise12:22
Kheopsdone12:22
Kheopsand now ?12:22
flipstarKheops: why you running as root? this might be the problem12:23
algyzkdesu qtparted12:23
algyzoops12:23
algyzjust qtparted12:23
Kheopspag12:23
Kheopswhere are u my friend ?12:23
algyzor better type exit, then with kdesu12:23
Kheopstell me what to do12:23
algyzKheops:  exit12:24
algyzKheops kdesu qtparted12:24
algyzKheops:  I hope you already unmounted partition12:24
pagKheops, believe algyz :)12:24
Kheopswait !12:25
Kheopsi run qtparted with root privilege ?>12:25
algyzsure12:25
pyro17so qtparted froze and corrupted my media partiton12:25
pyro17but i think everything important was backed up12:26
pyro17so im just going to format it and put kubuntu right non12:26
pyro17on*12:26
Kheopscommand qparted not found12:26
Kheopsalgyz:12:26
algyzKheops:  qtparted12:26
Kheopsyep12:27
Kheopsit's works12:27
Kheops:L)12:27
Kheopsand now ?12:27
algyzformat12:27
Kheopshow ?12:27
pyro17Kheops there should be options just man qtparted12:28
pyro17unless your using the gui one12:29
pyro17then its pretty straight foward12:29
Kheops:)12:29
Kheopsyes12:29
Kheopsi look12:29
Kheopsit's nice grafics12:29
Kheops10x12:29
Kheopsa lot12:29
pyro17are you formating an entire drive, or partitioning it12:29
Kheopsnow i just read the man and search in the new program12:29
Kheopshmm entire12:29
LimCorewhy ubuntu have applications that do not work at all ?12:30
Kheopsi just want a big partition12:30
pyro17and your using the qui one?12:30
pyro17qui*12:30
pyro17fawk, gui*12:30
ElvisHello!12:30
ElvisI need help with installing something12:30
flipstarLimCore: which application you mean ?12:30
algyzElvis:  WHAT KIND OF?12:30
LimCoreflipstar: scponlyc - doesnt work at all in ubuntu 6412:31
ElvisTeeworlds12:31
LimCorehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/scponly/+bug/12271512:31
Elvisa platform game12:31
LimCorebug reported 9 months ago, and still not fixed12:31
flipstarLimCore: is this an ubuntu app ?12:32
flipstarubotu cant find it12:32
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cant find it - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi12:32
LimCoreflipstar: open the bug report above12:32
ElvisCan you help?12:32
Kheopsalgyz: what is good ext3 ext2 ?12:33
Kheopsor what12:33
Kheops:)12:33
silverbladeSince installing compiz-fusion my KDE System Tray doesn't seem to work properly. Kopete and the update notifier both appear in a separate window. XChat however works fine.12:33
ElvisHow i can install teewars?12:33
Elvisteeworlds*12:33
algyzKheops:  ext3 better, because ext2 doesn't support files, larger than 4GB12:33
LimCoreElvis: sudo aptitude install teewars  doesnt work?12:33
Kheops10x i didn't know :)12:33
Kheopsbut i can latter mount the partition NTFS12:34
Kheops:)12:34
algyzLimCore:  think he should compile12:34
Kheopsright ?12:34
dcorbin_workopenoffice won't start for me.  It fails trying to fork "something".  When I manually try to start soffice, it fails quietly.  How to I check that all it's dependent libraries are there?12:34
algyzKheops:  it should be able12:34
Kheops10q12:34
Kheopsvery much12:34
Kheops;)12:34
ElvisCouldn't find any package whose name or description matched "teeworlds"12:35
algyzElvis:  you have to learn to compile12:35
ZappackyKheops: Fiver is back in ##linux, just for your info12:35
algyzElvis:  which system are you using, 32 or 64 bits?12:35
Elvis3212:35
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Kheopsky12:36
algyzElvis:  download Linux x86 file, extract it somewhere and look for something "readme.txt"12:36
Kheopsalgyz: i can't format the HDD ...12:36
Kheopsthis is a virtual...he tells me12:37
Elvisok12:37
Kheopsand the qparted eats me a 1...GB12:38
Kheopsor something like that12:38
flipstardcorbin_work: maybe there is something broken..try reinstalling via "sudo apt-get install --reinstall openoffice.org" or just use adept_manager12:38
ElvisOk now i can run it but its not looks good :S12:39
ElvisNo colors ....12:39
Kheopspaq12:39
Kheopsyour program eats me a 1 GB :(12:39
algyzElvis:  run from terminal and look for errors12:40
Kheopsalgyz: hey12:40
Kheopsi just deleted12:40
Kheopsthe partition12:40
Kheops:)12:40
Kheopsand now ?12:40
Kheopshe eats me 1 GB12:40
algyzbad soft :/12:40
Kheops38.34 GB12:41
ElvisHallo?12:41
Kheopswhat the ...12:41
Kheopsmother of Satan12:41
Kheopswhat to do now ?12:41
algyzso you left free place? now you can create partition there12:41
Kheopsyep12:41
Kheopsi just did12:41
Kheops:)12:41
Kheopsand it's apper happy12:41
Kheops:D)12:41
Jucato!enter | Kheops12:41
ubotuKheops: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!12:41
algyzKheops:  problem solved? nice :)12:42
ElvisLook @ that - http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/8266/loooksgratesr1.png12:42
Kheopsand now what i shoud do ?12:42
Kheopsi must mount the partition12:42
Kheops?12:42
Kheopsor what ?12:42
algyzYou shouldn't do anythig, just do, what you want12:42
ElvisWhats the problem algyz?12:43
Kheopsalgyz: i must mount the partition ?>12:43
algyzElvis:  run command from terminal (type there "teeworlds") and look for errors12:43
dcorbin_workflipstar: that only reinstalled one package.  Is there a way to install everything down the dependency chain?12:43
Kheopsalgyz: i must mount the partition ??12:45
algyzKheops:  if you want to use it, then answer is yes12:46
pyro17are you installing kubuntu there or tyring to use it as free space Kheops12:46
Kheopsfree space man12:46
pyro17yea mount it12:46
Kheopsi installed kubuntu on it because i wanted to format12:47
Kheopsky12:47
Kheopstell me how to mount and why12:47
Kheopsmount from to ?12:47
sourcemakerI have read that Kubuntu 8.04 Beta has been released... one of the new feature is to use an encrypted file system... Can I also encrypt only my home directory ? I think using a encrypted file system slows down the system.... right?12:47
pyro17yes12:48
algyzKheops:  sudo mkdir /media/whatever ; sudo mount /dev/device_name /media/whatever12:48
Kheopsyep12:48
Kheopshe ask me12:48
Kheopsfor type12:48
algyzKheops:  try kdesu mountconfig12:50
Kheopsu are a kind of maniac of kdesu12:50
Kheops:)12:50
algyzuse text mount otherwise12:51
Kheopsmount: you must specify the filesystem type12:51
Kheopshmm i try to mount12:51
Kheopsbut he ask for filesystem tyoe12:52
Kheopstype12:52
Kheopswhat type ?12:52
Jucatosourcemaker: you might want to try asking in #ubuntu+1 too12:52
Kheopswelcome back Jucato12:52
Kheops:)12:52
sourcemakerJucato: ok... I willl do... thanks12:52
algyzKheops:  think automatic will be ok12:53
ElvisSo many errors12:54
ElvisFailed to open...12:54
algyzElvis:  try to search in google by them12:54
Kheopswhat type ???12:54
flipstardcorbin_work: 'openoffice.org' for the whole openoffice suite12:55
flipstardcorbin_work: 'openoffice.org' is the metapackage for the whole openoffice suite12:55
flipstardcorbin_work: maybe you could specify what the problem is..e.g running an openoffice in terminal12:56
dcorbin_workflipstar: I understand that, but the --reinstall did not "ripple down the dependencies"12:56
dcorbin_workflipstar: happy to do so again: Running oocalc or oowriter, I get ** (process:8807): WARNING **: Unknown error forking main binary / abnormal early exit ...12:57
dcorbin_workWhen I tried to run /usr/lib/openoffice/program/soffice directly, it simple terminates quickly.12:57
flipstardcorbin_work: try at root once12:58
Kheopsalgyz:12:59
KheopsWHEN I WANT TO MOUNT HE ASK ME FOR tyoe12:59
Kheopstype12:59
dcorbin_workflipstar: it gives me connection to ":0.0" refused by server.  Can't remember how to get around that.13:00
flipstardcorbin_work: with kdesu oowriter maybe13:01
algyzKheops:  are you using mountconfig gui?13:01
Kheopsyep13:01
Kheopsno no13:02
Kheopscommand13:02
Kheopsline13:02
Kheopsit is more safe13:02
Kheops:)13:02
dcorbin_workflipstar: same effect13:02
flipstarhm okay13:02
JucatoKheops: can you please stop using the Enter key as a puncuation mark.13:02
Kheopsnop i'm using irc since he was invented13:02
flipstarJucato: /ignore Kheops13:02
Kheopsand i know very well to use13:03
Kheopsalso i'm the owener of the bighest channel of Undernet13:03
JucatoKheops: I meant to type in complete sentences. not splitting your sentences in so many lines13:03
Kheopsthis is IRC not a religion Book13:03
Kheopstype fast13:03
Jucatoif you have used IRC that long, then you know enough to respect channel rules13:03
Kheopsyes13:04
Kheopsi understand13:04
Kheopsi will try to obey :)13:04
Jucatothank you13:04
flipstardcorbin_work: could you paste a "xdpyinfo |grep dimensions"13:04
Kheopsmount: /dev/hdb already mounted or hdd40 busy13:05
Kheopswhat should i do13:05
Kheopsalgyz: are u here ?13:05
algyzno13:05
dcorbin_workflipstar:   dimensions:    3200x1200 pixels (700x261 millimeters)13:05
Kheops:)13:06
dcorbin_work(this all worked last week, until I upgraded a bunch of outdated packages)13:06
Kheopsmount: /dev/hdb already mounted or hdd40 busy that's the message when i trying to mount13:06
algyzmaybe it is mounted?13:06
Kheopshmm mabey not13:07
Kheopsnow can i see ?13:07
algyzcd /media/whatever, ls -l13:07
Jucatotype "mount" too see everything that's mounted13:08
abcdHi, does anybody know how to disable rolling down Edit, Settings etc after pressing alt+e, alt+s etc. ??? Sorry for my english...13:08
Jucatoabcd: I think that's built-in to the programs13:09
flipstardcorbin_work: my last idea..rename the openoffice dir in $HOME/.openoffice.org2 or so13:09
dcorbin_workOK.13:10
dcorbin_workflipstar: no joy.13:10
flipstar¦ /13:10
dcorbin_workflipstar: which is why I asked how to reinstall the entire dependency chain13:10
dcorbin_work:)13:10
Kheopsalgy13:11
Kheopshmm he quit13:11
KheopsJucato: can u help me ?13:11
flipstardcorbin_work: in adept_manager you can search for openoffice then filter out the not installed packages and completly remove all13:12
Kheopsthe program that u told me to use don't create the partition !13:12
JucatoKheops: sorry. not good with that stuff13:13
Kheopslol13:13
dcorbin_workflipstar: well, that won't help with dependent libraries, but it's a start.13:13
flipstardcorbin_work: sorry just dont know how do to this13:14
flipstardcorbin_work: if this still brings no sucess you might want to read this http://www.oooforum.org/forum/viewtopic.phtml?t=5703913:17
dcorbin_workflipstar: thanks13:18
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paule118LWw5-nCl13:30
paule118assssshat hat den Server verlassen (Remote closed the connection).13:31
flipstarlooks like a vnc key13:31
Kheopsflipstar: how can i see if i mount correctly the partition and i can use it ?13:32
flipstarwhy do you ask me ?13:32
flipstarpicking randomly people ?13:32
Kheopsnop13:33
Kheopsi just ask,,13:33
Kheopsthis is an official channel of Helping users13:33
Kheopsright ?13:33
flipstarmost here are volunters13:33
PiciHow are we going to know if you mounted the correct volume? Can you check?13:34
pucko-how do I start kde4 in a "new window" again?13:34
flipstarpucko-: use new session from kmenu..its not a new window but on tty9 then13:34
kalorinhttp://www.bizjournals.com/wichita/stories/2008/03/24/daily5.html13:37
Jucatokalorin: hm??13:38
kalorinwrong channel13:38
KheopsJucato: my man13:38
Kheopsi solve the problem13:39
Kheopslook13:39
Kheops./dev/hdb1              38G  129M   36G   1% /media/hdd4013:39
Kheopsnew partition is oky ?13:39
kalorinlove the way that when you first fire up konversation, as it's joining channels it doesn't stay on the channel you're looking at but keeps throwing new ones on top of old ones so that you do stuff like that13:39
paule118You're banned from that channel13:39
Picipaule118: hm?13:39
JucatoKheops: looks good13:39
Kheopsi don't thinks so man13:39
Kheopsbecause i had 40 GB :)13:39
Kheopsnow i have 38 ? wtf ?13:40
Kheops:)13:40
mifaunahola13:40
Kheopsaloha13:40
JucatoKheops: hm...13:40
Kheopsyour program eat my memory13:40
Kheops:)13:40
Jucatokalorin: Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> Interface -> Tabs -> uncheck Focus new tabs ?13:40
KheopsJucato: what happened with 2 GB ? :)13:41
kalorinkonversation, not konqueror13:41
Jucatokalorin: sorry. COnfigure Konversation13:42
kalorinah ok13:42
kalorinyeah didn't notice the tab13:42
kalorinthanks13:42
JucatoKheops: I'm not sure what happened. but I'm sure that 40GB isn't always as advertised. it's not exactly 40GB. and some parts are used for information13:42
dwidmannKheops: a 40GB drive is 40GB, not 40GiB13:43
PiciKheops: 40 gigabytes is appoxibmately 37.25 gibibytes, which is the standard 2^n measure used in computing.13:43
Kheopsi know13:44
Kheopsbit and byte13:44
Kheopsthe producers don't write on the HDD's what GB it is13:44
Kheops:)13:44
Kheopsthey just write 500 GB but gibi or giga,,13:45
Kheops...13:45
flipstarno..harddrive manufactors work with 1000byte per KB but OS's usally user 1024byte for KB13:45
Kheopshope u understand me :)13:45
Kheopshmmm anyway tanks for helping me13:45
Kheopsto solve my HDD13:45
Kheops:)13:45
BysmuthMagethe real kilobyte: http://xkcd.com/394/13:46
dwidmannBysmuthMage: I saw that coming, and if nobody else did, I would have :)13:46
KheopsJucato: u told me when i joined this channel and ask my problem that i can format the hdd without installing kubuntu13:46
Kheopsthis is right ?13:46
flipstarBysmuthMage: lol !!13:46
JucatoKheops: I didn't tell you that13:47
Kheopshmm but i can format and create partitions without install kubuntu ?13:47
dwidmannKheops: yes13:47
Kheopshmm13:48
Kheopsoky 10x13:48
dwidmannhurray for live cds13:48
dwidmann(and dvds)13:48
BysmuthMagefuture: live Blu-Ray...13:49
dwidmannBysmuthMage: not anytime in the near future13:50
Kardeslers.a14:04
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roger_ghs14:22
nitinhello14:28
flipstarhi nitin14:28
nitinhow do i register so that i can chat?14:30
flipstar!register14:31
ubotuBy default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.14:31
flipstarnitin: you already can chat14:31
nitinI also like ubuntu and kubuntu. I have installed both on my computer. I used ubuntu since 7.0414:32
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flipstari tried gnome 2.22 a few days ago .. but didnt liked it much..14:33
neville_Gnome is :/14:34
nitinnirAt first i used ubuntu a lot and found kde hard, but now I prefer to use kde.14:34
flipstarim using kde since start..only used gnome once when i accendly downloaded the wrong livecd :/14:35
pyro17GNOME14:36
nitinnirhere i have dial up connection, so i cannot download. therefore i have to wait for cd from canonicla,14:36
flipstarthen you probably watch more that you order the right one :)14:36
nitinnirnow i have decided to stick with version until 9.0414:37
flipstar9.04 or 8.04 ?14:38
nitinnirat first i thought linux is very hard and it is only for the geeks, but i have managed to make my pc do all the basic functions that i need14:38
Ukonpoika#kubuntu-offtopic is the place for chatting if you don't really need support.14:38
nitinniri mean until version 9.0414:38
flipstarUkonpoika: heres not much traffic so i think this is no problem :)14:39
Ukonpoikaflipstar, once a bad habit is born, it dies hard. ;)14:39
Jucatorules are rules. traffic or none. please follow them. thanks14:40
flipstaryessir14:41
Jucato:)14:41
dwidmannnitinnir: you could download an iso image over dialup. I've done it a couple of times. It's just not particularly enjoyable to do so ... and a download manager is a must.14:45
nitinnirhow long does it take to download an iso over dialup?14:46
dwidmannQuite a while. If you can manage to keep the connection up as often as possible it'll take a week or two14:47
dwidmannIIRC14:47
nitinnirI prefer ordering cd from canonical even though i have to wait for sometime14:48
nitinnirwhat is kernel headers?14:49
Jucatoyou could also try contacting your Ubuntu LoCo (local community) and asking if they had CD's delivered to them last release. some LoCo's are given some amount of CD's to give away14:50
dwidmannnitinnir: header files used for compiling things14:50
geniiIf you had an optimal 56K connection 700Mb takes about 29 hours. But of course no one has an optimal connection.14:51
dwidmanngenii: yeah, maybe you'd get that if you connected from within your ISPs office (literally)14:51
dwidmannShould take less than a week if the connection is decent .... mine wasn't14:52
david_hello14:52
Odd-rationaletorrent might be a good idea as you can stop and resume14:52
geniiYup14:52
SlimeyPetenitinnir: kernel headers are source code files which are required if you want to install a new module (driver)14:52
BlkHtBrigadeI'm having an issue on my laptop where everytime I boot I have to reinstall the nvidia drivers before I can get into KDE.  if I "kdm stop" and then type "startx" it says that there is something wrong with the nvidia kernel.  After reinstalling the nvidia driver (from nvidia's download) it all works great until a reboot.  Any ideas?14:54
dwidmanngenii: Ii eventually broke down and coughed up the dough for a satellite connection. Now I've got all the new disappoints it has to offer.14:54
BlkHtBrigadeKubuntu 7.10, alienware 9700 (sorry, forgot the important stuff)14:54
dwidmannBlkHtBrigade: I've had that problem before .... didn't know what I was doing so I reinstalled using envy and it seemed to work okay.14:55
BlkHtBrigadeit's aggrivating =/  Almost the same thing is happening with the wireless drivers.14:56
ccvpUbuntu 8.04, is beta worth trying, or just stick with 7.10 until official release?14:58
ccvp?14:58
eddieftwccvp: i would say stick with 7.1014:58
Odd-rationaleccvp: your choice. I am sticking to gutsy though14:59
Jucatoofficial release is barely a month away anyway14:59
neville_Is it possible to use a burnt iso of a new release to upgrade?14:59
ccvphttp://www.ubuntu.com/testing/hardy/beta14:59
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Odd-rationaleAt least he finallly have a name we can spell. Instead of "fiesty" and "gusty"14:59
Odd-rationale*we14:59
ccvpthis dude on efnet asked this15:00
ccvp[09:56am] [simon__] how do I tell my fedora core system to use vendor perl instead of site perl?15:00
ccvphow he fix that?15:00
Jucatotell him to ask in #fedora15:00
JucatoOdd-rationale: next version's name is Intrepid Ibex15:00
ccvpJucato15:00
ccvpstarbucks is releasing a new brand of cofee, thats as demented named15:01
ccvpas ubuntu releases15:01
ccvp"Venti Anal Cumlatta" $3.9915:01
Odd-rationaleJucato: that is not too hard to spell. But it is a mouthful15:01
BluesKajHowdy all15:01
JucatoO.o15:01
Odd-rationaleI was hoping for ingenious iguana15:01
neville_Oh come on, Ibex' look hilarious!!15:01
ccvpAnal Cumlatta is good too15:02
BluesKajhas to use the letter "i"15:02
flipstarJucato: where can i find i a list of LoCu's ?15:02
BluesKajpretty lame names so far , hardy heron ,gawd gimme a break :)15:03
neville_What's the set name for J?15:03
Jucatoflipstar: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeams15:03
flipstarthanks15:03
neville_Jaundiced Jaguar?15:03
Jucatoneville_: they only decide before a new release15:03
Jucatoshortly before15:03
neville_Hmm, so still time :P15:04
Odd-rationaleIt should have been Hungry Hippo15:04
prince_jammysusually about 5 minutes before release, judging by the names15:04
LimCoreheh the release names are funny15:04
Jucatoprince_jammys: no15:05
* LimCore prefers "7.10" 15:05
JucatoLimCore: they're meant to be non-serious15:05
LimCoreis it just me or is 7.10 easier15:05
LimCoreto remember15:05
ccvplimcore15:05
prince_jammysthey're definitely goofy15:05
Jucatowell that's the formal/real name of the release. the animal names are just "codenames"15:05
neville_When I ordered my first copy of Kubuntu, 7.04, my Mum found the package, and with the name Feisty Fawn, she thought it was something.. unsavory.15:05
SSJ_GZneville_: lol15:06
neville_So they're not all good15:06
LimCoreneville_: heh15:06
ccvpEver since Feodra screwed itself up permanently with FC2, the community evolutionized, and basically Ubuntu became the new "masses" standard....it's the most, microsoft'ized, and "window'ized" and automated'ized linux distro these days...........sad, but the only way to get the masses to use linux, is to make it easy, and automated,, meaning you wont see the day when the masses use console only15:06
ccvpUbuntu has degraded itself because of this :)15:06
hungrymouseCan I clarify: 7.10 is Gutsy, right? I've not booted to Kubuntu for a while so I've forgotten what version I'm on :S15:06
Jucatohungrymouse: yes15:07
hungrymousethanks.15:07
* genii tries to explain the Warty Warthog cd to Mother15:07
prince_jammyshungrymouse: correct15:07
LimCoreccvp: this doesnt have to be sad15:07
ccvpheh15:07
LimCoreccvp: some people like to "just use the tool"15:07
Jucatook, time to raise the offtopic warning15:07
ccvpi remember when FC215:07
LimCoreand ms is a bad, bad tool15:07
ccvpwas where it was "at"15:07
ccvpnow its all about ubuntu etc, and kde ubuntu15:07
ccvphow big is the kubuntu iso15:08
ccvpregular ubuntu = 695 megs i think15:08
hungrymouseIt won't be bigger than a single standard CD-R15:09
neville_Hmm, can you buy pieces of the repositories on disks?15:09
neville_AptonCD is greatm provided you have a decent internet connection in the first place :P15:10
geniineville_: The alternate cd can be used as a mini-repository, it has a lot of packages on it since no gui15:11
neville_It does provide a GUI anyway though, doesn't it? Otherwise, that wouldn't make much sense15:12
neville_And, more along the lines of a DVD disk or 20 :P15:12
SlimeyPeteit doesn't provide a GUI installer15:12
SlimeyPetebut once you've installed you get a GUI15:12
neville_Ah15:12
geniineville_: The room they saved by not making it a livecd was used to pack more stuff on the media15:13
neville_Is there an idea of how much space would be saved?15:15
jacze15:18
jasiemak15:18
jasiemka15:18
AnnirakThe machine which I was running my mysqld had its chipset die.  Now I'm getting the message that mysql can't bind to port 3306.  What can I do to fix it?15:24
ccvpI wish thugs in the ghetto would quit wasting $5,000 on 29" rims, for their 1984 regal, or caprice, that is worth $300, and rusted/falling apart. . . . don't they know the concept of depreciation? instead of investing.............those rims lose 80% value in 3 months HEH15:25
Jucato!offtopic15:25
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!15:25
angelhi, can anyone help me get my realtek 8187b wireless card working? i have downloaded the windows drivers, used the 98 version in ndiswrapper, but it won't recognize the device, saying i isn't there15:26
fulat2khi folks, i'm currently using v100.14.19 of nvidia drivers in k7.10.  i was wondering if it's possible to upgrade to a newer version  by d/lding it from nvidia.com15:27
Jucato!nvidia15:27
ubotuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto15:27
Jucatofulat2k: there are instructions there for doing that way ^^^15:27
flipstarfulat2k: yes sure15:27
Vedavoxfulat2k: yes, the easiest way is to download and install envy15:27
Jucato!envy15:27
ubotuenvy is an unsupported tool to install newer versions of binary video drivers than provided by the official repositories. Use at your own risk, and remember that the latest version is not necessarily the "best". See « /msg ubotu binarydriver »15:27
neville_No, don't say Envy!!15:27
flipstarenvy would be an bad choise15:27
neville_-_-v15:27
fulat2kuhh..15:28
fulat2kok15:28
neville_Why is Envy a bad choice?15:28
flipstarit changes much in the whole system15:28
BluesKajEnvy can break your setup , if you're not careful15:28
Jucato(so does manually installing the driver from nvidia.com... though that's probably a bit easier to fix... maybe...)15:29
neville_-_-v15:29
ubuntuhello. I have a problem. I installed the nvidia drivers for my pc. but it says that my monitor doesn't support that resolution/refresh rate. and I can't log in graphically. how do I fix this?15:29
angelguess no one can help...15:30
hungrymouseubuntu: what's your graphics card:15:30
fulat2khmm... wiki page doesn't say antying bout upgrading15:30
ubuntu8600GT.15:30
hungrymouseand did it work before you installed a driver?15:31
ubuntuperhaps if I could edit a configuration file. but I don't know which one. I am using livecd now but I don't know how to mount when in liveCD15:31
Jucatofulat2k: you will basically have to install the new driver. that's what "upgrading" a driver is about15:32
ubuntuhungrymouse:  it worked before15:32
Vedavoxubuntu: /etc/xorg.conf is the file15:32
flipstarfulat2k: you can use the instructions on nvidia.com15:32
hungrymouseubuntu: um... why did you install the new driver then ><15:33
ubuntucoz nvidia drivers are better15:33
fulat2kJucato: i think i'll wait a while.  i'm not doing any gaming and my display works perfectly :P15:33
flipstarthis is probably the wisest choise15:35
ubuntuhow do I mount my hardrive from LiveCD?15:35
Daisuke_Laptopoh how i hate ati's x20015:35
flipstarubuntu you should be able to use the gui in systemsetting>advanced>hard drives15:36
Daisuke_Laptopi wanted to show off compiz-fusion to my in-laws (who are already running ubuntu), but i couldn't get it working with the stupid x200 chipset :(15:36
VedavoxDaisuke_Laptop: why? I have it running here fine15:36
Daisuke_Laptopxgl?15:36
Daisuke_Laptopor aiglx using the newest driver?15:37
VedavoxDaisuke_Laptop: used that, but now I just use an more up to date ati driver than what is in the gutsy repoes15:37
Daisuke_Laptopyeah, i installed the newest driver from their site15:37
Daisuke_Laptopstill nada15:37
Daisuke_Laptopbut no matter15:37
Vedavoxwhat does it spit out when you type 'compiz --replace'15:38
hungrymouseyour hard drive, probably.15:38
ubuntuwhere do I go to tell it to only use the normal drivers, ie not nvidia ones15:40
Vedavoxubuntu: the way I do it is just amnually edit /etc/Xorg.conf to use vesa instead of nvidia15:41
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thiemsterwhich is better: kubuntu 8.04 kde4 beta or kubuntu 8.04 kde3 beta15:53
flipstarthere is no 'better'15:54
thiemsterwhich has better graphics15:54
jussio1!best | thiemster15:54
ubotuthiemster: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, join #ubuntu-bots and ask there.15:54
thiemsterjussio1: that didn't really answer my question15:54
flipstarkde4 appears nicer i guess15:54
thiemsterdoes it use less memory15:55
thiemstercause i have a 8-year-old computer with 512MB15:55
jussio1thiemster: the thing is, your question is *very* subjective15:55
thiemsterand i also want to install kubuntu 8.04 (when the final version comes out) on a laptop with 256MB of memory15:55
jussio1thiemster: they both use around the same. IMHO15:55
rafiquelqu'un parle francais15:56
thiemsterrafi: if you asked me if i speak french, the answer is no15:56
thiemsterjussio1: thanks15:56
jussio1!fr | rafi15:57
uboturafi: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.15:57
rafi#ubuntu-fr15:58
Picirafi: /j #ubuntu-fr15:58
LimCorerafi:   /j #ubuntu-fr15:59
LimCoreor click15:59
rafi#kubuntu-fr16:00
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ubotuYou should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #kubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair to new users.  (Please set your preferred nick in your client's settings instead.)  The same goes for using noisy away messages; use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently.  See also /msg ubotu Guidelines16:03
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thiemster!spam16:07
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nick_i need help plz16:09
thiemsternick: on what16:09
thiemsternick: what do u need help with?16:10
nick_lol16:10
thiemsternick: what?16:10
nick_ok i have a printer whit memory sd slot16:10
thiemsternick: so what's ur problem?16:11
nick_and linux when i enter a momory stick he not doin g anything16:11
thiemstersorry, can't help u there16:11
nick_:(16:11
thiemsteri don't know too much about printers in linux16:11
nick_ok16:11
thiemstercause mine won't even work properly16:11
thiemsterhave you installed CUPS16:12
nick_ok mine work fine but my momy not work :(16:12
thiemsterhuh?16:12
thiemsterwhat r u talking about?16:12
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kalorinis there some way to just turn off, remove, destroy all these apps need to use the kwallet?16:13
kalorinI've apt-get removed it, yet they still keep asking for it16:13
* rhombicosidodeca is tired16:13
mot!compiz-fusion16:14
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion16:14
Jucatokalorin: Alt+F2, "kcontrol", go to Security and Privacy -> KDE Wallet -> uncheck Enable the KDE wallet subsystem16:14
kalorinjucato, sweet thanks16:16
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sceptre_im not doing anything and im getting a constant write to my sda1 of around 3..4mb/sec and i cant figure out why16:31
flipstarsceptre_: http://guichaz.free.fr/misc/#iotop16:32
sceptre_never mind it was mythTV backend lol16:32
sceptre_sudo /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend stop16:32
sceptre_now theres no disk activity16:33
sceptre_=)16:33
sceptre_flipstar: i dont think i could use that script anyone...no I/O accounting support16:36
flipstarbut you seems to be able to use sudo..so you can change any16:37
nick_hey16:51
nick_how i format a d: drive ?16:51
nick_or e :16:51
nick_memory stick16:51
flipstarwith mkfs or a gui like qtparted16:52
nick_umm16:52
nick_where i find that ?16:52
flipstaryou find qtparted in the repos, you can install via adept_manager , mkfs is part of the system16:54
nick_okok16:55
drimsHello everybody, i'm stuck with something here in kubuntu ( surely newbie's probs )16:57
drimssomeone could help me?16:57
flipstarsure..but you need to tell us what problem you have ..makes sence or ?16:57
drimsWell i've got kubuntu and winxp on the same computer, and i wanted to shared files on ntfs partition with my network while i'm under kubuntu..16:59
drimsi experienced some problems so i decided to copy the files i wanted to share on my kubuntu partition16:59
drimsthe problem is when i copy a file ( a movie is the case ) i can't read it in kubuntu..17:00
drimsit loads perfectly when it's on my ntfs partition but once the copy done, the file seems corrupt17:01
flipstarwhich ntfs driver you are using ? maybe you should try ntfs-3g17:01
drimswhich is strange because i have no problem with .srt files or others17:02
drimsi don't know i just installed kubuntu 7.1017:02
drimsare they not included?17:02
flipstardrims: you sure there is a problem with this file .. or you just cant play it ?17:02
geniiWhat is the file extension of this movie?17:02
flipstarmaybe you just dont have the right codecs for the file installed17:03
drimsnot at all17:03
drimsbecause i can read it if the fim is on my ntfs partition ( i'm still under kubuntu )17:03
flipstaroh..okay17:03
drimsit's only once copied that it doesn't load17:04
drims(i mean copied on my ext3 partition the one kubuntu is on )17:04
geniidrims: Is the size the same after copying?17:04
flipstaryou probably can play other films on the same drive..?17:04
drimsUnable to open '/home/drims/Nouveau dossier/bclc.avi'17:05
flipstaroh this might be an permissions thing17:05
drimsi can play all the films which are on the original partition ( ntfs ) but not once copied..17:05
flipstarwhich player are you using ?17:06
drimsvlc17:06
flipstarthen just try "kdesu vlc <videofile> once..17:06
flipstar"kdesu vlc /home/drims/Nouveau dossier/bclc.avi" in this case17:07
flipstarto see if its an permission problem17:07
drimslibdvdread: Encrypted DVD support unavailable.17:07
drims[00000290] main input error: no suitable access module for `/home/drims/Nouveau'17:08
drims[00000281] main playlist: nothing to play17:08
drims.. weird..17:08
flipstartry kdesu vlc "/home/drims/Nouveau dossier/bclc.avi"17:08
flipstarwith quotes17:08
flipstarthere is an emtpy space in the filename ..17:09
geniiPut the file in a directory without spaces in the name17:09
flipstarworks also with quotes17:09
drimsi tried with quotes, same problem17:09
drimsi'll change quickly the folder's name17:09
drimssame problem..17:10
ubuntuwey17:10
drims[00000304] main input error: no suitable access module for `dossier/bclc.avi'17:10
drimstrying to create local folder /root/.kde/share: Permission denie17:10
geniithe "encrypted dvd support unavailable"    makes me think  it could be libdvdcss2 which is needed17:10
drimsbut it's weird because like i said before, if i wanna play at their original location it works without any problem17:11
geniidrims: What does ls -l /home/drims/dossier/bclc.avi             report?17:12
nick_why on my memory stick said is a virtual partition17:13
geniithe -l is lowercase L there17:13
Vermuxhow do I start Samba?17:13
drimsi think i found the problem, when i copied the files the autorisation changes to root for playing the file17:14
drimsi just changes the attributes and it seems to work now17:14
geniiVermux: If it's installed, then: sudo /etc/init.d/samba start17:14
ubuntus.a17:16
drimsbig thank you for all for that problem ;)17:16
drimsnow i have a new one ;)17:16
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drimswhy am i not allowed to share files (while i'm under kubuntu) from my ntfs partition on my networks?17:16
drimsit says : only the folders associated with your user can be shared17:17
flipstarthen the partition is probably not assignet to your user17:18
nick_flipstar:  how i start fkfs17:19
nick_mkfs17:19
drimshow can i change that?17:19
drimsyes indeed i just saw that in the properties.. thanks17:20
flipstarnick_: in a terminal type sudo mkfs.<filesystem> device17:20
flipstardrims: okay..btw how did you copied the files ?17:20
drims.. it's the 6th times that i try to switch to linux but each time i came back for little issues like that.. i hope it's the good one ;)17:21
drimsin fact i think that i openned dolphin with the root attributes under my common user17:21
drimsonce copied i was unable to open them but now it's fixed17:22
flipstarokay..thats good :)17:22
drimsother questions... can i create a root user ?17:23
flipstarno..you shouldnt17:24
drimsbecause i think that 95% of my issues are linked with the permissions things17:24
flipstarjust change the permissions once17:24
drimsoh k.. i get by then17:24
ubuntuMEtürk varmı bu kanalda??17:26
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drimsi can't change the permissions of my ntfs partition..17:28
Vermuxgenii: if I changed the contents of the smb.conf file, do I need to restart the samba service or it updates automatically?17:28
drimsi change those but when i click OK and go back to the properties, nothing changes..17:28
LimCoreubuntuME: #ubuntu.tr ?17:28
flipstardrims: the mounted partition ?17:29
drimsflipstar: yes17:30
Vermuxif I changed the contents of the smb.conf file, do I need to restart the samba service or it updates automatically?17:30
geniiVermux: You need to restart it. use "restart" instead of "start" in this case17:30
Vermuxoops17:30
Vermuxgenii: I started it again. it means that 2 same services are running now?17:30
flipstardrims: how did you mounted it ?17:31
flipstarit should work with a browser with root rights..but you still can change the mount options17:31
drimsflipstar: kubuntu did it itself when i installed it, /media/sda117:32
geniiVermux: Yes17:33
flipstardrims: hm you also checked the options with subdirs ?17:33
ubuntu.17:33
Vermuxgenii: waht is the netbios name?17:34
drimsflipstar: i didn't do it for the moment because i'm (i don't know why now) unable to change the permissions for others ( my network )17:34
drimsflipstar: when i click OK it goes back like before : Denied17:35
geniiVermux: Netbios name is the name Wincdows computers see it as. If your linux box is called FredSmith   netbios is: FREDSMITH17:36
drimsflipstar: and if i checked the option for subfolder a dialog box open with a progression bar but it stays stuck at 0%17:36
sebastianhi17:36
geniiVermux: You should kill extra samba instances running, eg:     sudo killall smbd17:37
Vermuxgenii: I did stop instead of start17:37
sebastianCan somebody tell me how do deinstall kde and install gnome?17:37
sebastian-d +t17:37
Vermuxgenii: where is the smb.conf the netbios appears? because I dont c this line17:38
geniiVermux: Because you started a second instance it may not have a lockfile/pidfile which the script can use to close it prroperly.17:38
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Vermuxgenii: ok, I killed it and started it again17:39
geniiVermux: There is not usually some "netbios name" entry in the samba config file. It just has a workgroup entry. Then the name the Windows machines see for your computer is it's usual lunux name but all in uppercase17:40
geniilunux -> linux17:40
sebastianokay^^   bye bye17:40
Vermuxgenii: ok, I see it now on the windows machine17:41
Vermuxgenii: it is lower case17:41
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BluesKajgenii ,I subbed the iso file in your command with mine ,but no joy. here's the output ,http://www.pastebin.ca/95547517:43
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Vermuxgenii: I cant read the file from the shared directory even though I set permissions17:47
geniiVermux: How did you go about setting these permissions?17:49
Vermuxgenii: ok, now it works. I entered now chmod u+rwx,g+rx,o+rx /export17:49
Vermuxgenii: previously I entered chmod 744 /export17:50
Vermuxgenii: what are all this letters?17:50
* genii sighs17:53
Vermuxgenii: I want the /export to be only read permiited17:55
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geniiVermux: u=user g=group o=others   r=read w=write x=execute       so u+rwx means give user that owns directory read/write/execute priveleges17:56
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sourcemakerI have installed the new kubuntu beta package.... it's there the restrikted driver manager menu for setting up nvidia?18:13
flipstarits called driver manager now18:14
Vermuxgenii: I set up read only=yes, but I can copy the file in the shared directory18:14
sourcemakerflipstar: how can I configure... is there an menu?18:15
jhutchins_wkVermux: Do you mean you can copy a file to the shared directory, or copy it from the shared directory to somewhere else?18:16
flipstarsourcemaker: the is no menu it should detect the card if you run it kmenu>system>driver manager18:17
sourcemakerflipstar: thanks18:17
flipstaris there a tool to search inside ftp servers? beside google i mean18:20
geniiVermux: sudo chmod -R 754 /export                   When you have read only =yes in smb.conf it won't overwrite file permissions you set earlier manually on that directory. eg: when you did chmod u+rwx,g+rx,o+rx /export or chmod 744   or so18:23
Vermuxgenii: how do I c the current permissions for a file?18:25
Vermuxgenii: or directory18:25
geniiVermux: files:   ls -l filename                 directory: ls -ld directoryname18:26
leleiniesiabuonasera18:26
hellhoundI have installed Gutsy Gibbon on my third computer (other two are just fine) with a 2.33 Ghz Xeon processor and 1 GB of RAM.  My problem is that it is running incredibly slow, simple things like moving the mouse cursor even go slow by not responding for 5-10 seconds and then jumping around the screen only to return back to is slow state.  Open and application often takes 3-5 minutes.  Does anyone know what I might be able to check18:31
hellhoundthat would cause this?18:31
LimCorehellhound: bad video driver?18:32
hellhoundI have altry tested the memory and ran top and nothing strange was seen18:32
LimCorehellhound:   run  top -d 3  to see who is using the most cpu18:32
LimCoreand/or run gui application   ksysquard18:32
LimCoreoh18:32
LimCoreis it fast but unresponsive, or overall really slow?18:32
LimCorego to vt-1  (text mode) and try doing some oeprations, does it work well there18:33
sourcemaker2I am testing the new ubuntu beta version using an encrypted hard disk via LVM... I am not sure... but it seems that the file system encryption slows down the system really hard18:33
Freezehello i have Kubuntu 7.10. why i doesnt find alsa-oss with apt-cache search . mein sources.list http://paste.debian.net/5175318:34
Freezemy18:34
hellhoundLimcore on top -d 3 the top results are (xorg (35148 virt), k89_uiserver (31796 virt), konsole (33624 virt) and top (2368 virt)18:35
LimCorebut how much cpu usage18:35
flipstarFreeze: alsa-oss is in universe..if you just added it you need to update first18:36
hellhoundLimCore: The computer seems to actually be slow as typing in konsole even is delayed... however outside of Linux (such as grub and the boot process as this si not a dual boot system) go at normal speeds18:36
vltHello. What am I doing wrong when `dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg` only lets me setup kbd settings but not video card?18:37
Naruhelloo/. Somebody speek Russian?18:37
vlt!ru | Naru18:37
ubotuNaru: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke18:37
geniihellhound: Likely your video driver is the culprit. Perhaps running xgl with some ati card or similar18:38
hellhoundLimCore: xorg uses 4-1 PU, kio_uiserver uses 3-1%, and 3-5 other applications list but with no more than 1% cpu usage18:38
LimCorewyhat is 4-1 PU ?18:38
Freezethank you flipstar18:39
sourcemaker2is there an channel for kubuntu beta?18:39
hellhoundLimCore: sorry i meant 4% - 1% CPU usage18:39
Bauldricksourcemaker2: hardy?18:40
SlimeyPetesourcemaker2: #ubuntu+1 (there is no #kubuntu+1)18:41
Erickj92what is the name of the konsole IRC application?18:41
LimCorehellhound: hmm Im not sure18:42
jhutchins_wkirssi is one18:42
LimCorehellhound: try in text mode (VT-1  alt+ctrl+f1  and +f7 tyo get back)18:42
BluesKajirssi, Erickj9218:43
Erickj92addd irssi. thank you18:43
minew xorg suxs ( in hardy)18:43
BluesKajmi, then join #ubuntu+118:44
algyzNaru:  учи английский18:44
miBluesKaj:  i said that 30 days ago18:44
NaruЯ всё слышал.18:44
miNaru: Я ponimaju po Ruski18:46
mi:)18:46
kardeslers.a18:46
BluesKajmi , then go there , we do official releases here.18:46
miBluesKaj: just comment ...what is wrong?18:47
algyz!ru  mi Naru18:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ru  mi naru - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi18:47
algyz!ru| mi Naru18:47
ubotumi Naru: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke18:47
BluesKaj!ru | mi Naru18:47
mialgyz: sorry but i not rusian18:47
miserbia is here :)18:47
algyzmi:  lithuania also ;)18:48
mialgyz: niceeee18:48
sykehi18:52
sykeis this the place to discuss the kde4 hardy packages?18:52
mi#kubuntu-kde418:53
algyzsyke:  maybe kde4 channel?18:53
DarkriftXduring boot, before x starts, its trying to init my wifi, but failing with irq_ready timeout, and the boot process isnt going anywhere18:54
DarkriftXhow do i make it just continue18:54
DarkriftXit keeps doing the timeouts every once in a while18:54
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rcg1984So far I have a RAID set active now, how do I mount the harddrives?18:57
wesleyhow can i write to my ntfs drive in kubuntu?18:57
trappist!ntfs18:57
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE18:57
algyzwesley:  mount it with ntfs-3g18:57
wesleyi have the drive mounted but can not write18:58
flipstarrcg1984: mount the mapper in /dev/mapper18:58
DarkriftXwhere is blacklist again?18:59
rcg1984flipstar: alright thanks.19:00
algyzwesley:  look into permissions of this disc19:01
flipstarrcg1984: youre welcome :)19:01
wesleyis using ntfs-config a safe way to write to the drive?19:02
DarkriftXntfs3g worked great for me19:02
DarkriftXi played wow off a ntfs drive for 4 months19:03
DarkriftXand that has lots of read/writing19:03
wesleyit seems to be working fine19:03
DarkriftXthen it prob is19:04
wesleythanks everyone19:04
slow-motionhi19:04
DarkriftXok, i enabled my nvidia restricted drivers and not x doesnt seem to want to start, how can i disable those and make it use the ones it was using?19:05
DarkriftXnot x = now x19:05
BusErrorgah. my upgrade to heron failed early on, and now I have a bazillion alert nessage with dependency failures19:09
BusErrorwith a #$#$#@$# alert window that masks the 'close' button and a 'report bug' button that doesn't work19:10
flipstarhardy=beta, beta=risky19:10
Kheopshi19:11
Kheopsalgyz: hi man :)19:11
rcg1984alright, I just editted the fstab file to: /dev/mapper/sil_ahbiejbgcgaf /media/windows ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8-8 0 0 I pointed to that specific folder but mounted it in my Storage Media which gives me the error: "hal-storage-fixed-mount-all-options refused uid 1000"19:12
pulaskihello, I'm trying to get my cannon i550 printer going on my kubuntu gutsy with kernel 2.6.22-14-generic.  I've found a link in the ubuntu forums that details instructions.  I need to get a driver from ftp://download.canon.jp/pub/driver/bj/linux/.  The name of the driver is: bjfiltercups-X.X-X.i386.rpm.  The bjfilterpixus550i... drivers at there don't show one specifically for kernel 2.6.22-14.  The latest kernel listed for the19:13
pulaski550i is 2.4-0.  Would this be suitable or can someone suggest another approach"19:13
rcg1984I have no clue why Ubuntu mounted it in the Storage Media.  How do I fix this issue?19:14
DarkriftXis there a command line tool to configure your xorg.conf?19:14
Kheopshey i want to know why my partition don't remain mounted ?19:14
geniihellhound: Any resolve to your slow xeon box yet?19:14
Kheopsi game the command to mount..19:14
DarkriftXi need to remove nvidia drivers and make it use something else19:14
Kheopsgave*19:14
KheopsJucato: u are here ?19:14
Kheopshmm he is away..19:14
Kheopssomebody here for support ?19:15
baizidimohamedil ya quelqu'un19:15
prince_jammyswhat type of partition is is?19:15
Kheopshmmm19:15
prince_jammys!fr | baizidimohamed19:15
Kheopsext319:15
Kheopsi just format it19:16
Kheops:)19:16
prince_jammysbaizidimohamed: #ubuntu-fr19:16
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Kheopsand i mounted..but after restart unmount19:16
ubotubaizidimohamed: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.19:16
hellhoundgenii: no not yet... LimCore thought it might be the display driver or something... which I am trying to test out, but it seems as thought it is just processing things slow and in spurts... in otherwords for a few seconds it runs fine and then it drags for another few seconds ( i say it drags when the mouse cursor does not respond for a few seconds)19:16
prince_jammysKheops: is there a line in /etc/fstab for it?19:16
Kheopswhat is fstab ?19:16
geniihellhound: I also suspect the display driver, especially if it is an ATI card19:16
prince_jammysKheops: it's a configuration file19:16
prince_jammys!fstab | Kheops19:17
flipstarrcg1984: just add uid=1000 to the fstab entry19:17
ubotuKheops: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions19:17
Kheopsky19:17
prince_jammysKheops: look at the file. each line shows a device and where it gets mounted19:17
Kheopsi must look19:17
Kheopsoky19:17
prince_jammysKheops: if you have the proper fstab line, it will get mounted automatically19:17
moomowat is best distribution for linux ,,19:17
rcg1984so? /dev/mapper/sil_ahbiejbgcgaf /media/windows ntfs-3g uid=100019:18
geniihellhound: What does: lspci | grep VGA         say is your video card?19:18
hellhoundgenii: yeah i just found out it is ati (built into the server board)  do you know of any other drivers or anything that might help it out19:18
rcg1984moomo there is no best distro it's a personal preference19:18
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pulaskiDoes anyone here use a canon i550 printer with their kubuntu?19:18
=== baizidimohamed is now known as momo1512
flipstarrcg1984: better uid=1000,gid=1000 for group also :)19:19
rcg1984flipstar, alright will do19:19
geniihellhound: does: grep xgl /etc/X11/xorg.conf                    produce a line ?19:19
livingdaylighthello kubunteros19:19
hellhoundgenii: it says VGA compatible controller: ATI technologies Onc Rage XL (rev 27)19:19
flipstarrcg1984: this only applies if youre the first user in the system..else the uid id different..19:19
rcg1984alright19:19
livingdaylightis there anyone to speak to when one has been banned?19:20
rcg1984flipstar: I'm the only user on this computer19:20
eMaXhello all19:20
flipstargood :)19:20
BusErrorit's adept being broken. aptitude works just fine, and find a way around the few broken packages19:20
prince_jammyslivingdaylight: #ubuntu-ops19:20
hellhoundgenii: no grep xgl /etc/X11/xorg.conf does not produce anything19:20
livingdaylightprince_jammys, thx amigo19:20
eMaXhow can I use sudo bla and have a path set so that "bla" is found as a command? Root has the right path using sudo su -, and the current user also has the right path, only when using sudo, the path appears to be different19:20
geniihellhound: OK. To see which video driver is being used: grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf   and usually the last entry is the video (but not always)19:21
rcg1984what's the command for cycle umount than mount?19:21
geniircg1984: mount /place -o <new options here>, remount19:22
hellhoundgenii: the driver is "ati"19:23
pulaskiDoes anyone know of a channel devoted to printers on kubuntu?19:23
prince_jammysi don't19:24
prince_jammysyou could try asking the question here and in #ubuntu19:25
geniihellhound: Hmm. OK. So for older ati cards this should be right. Can you copy and paste the entire /etc/X11/xorg.conf file to the pastebin website please19:25
genii!paste | hellhound in case you don't know about pastebin19:25
ubotuhellhound in case you don't know about pastebin: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)19:25
trappistpulaski: there's probably no such channel, but you might try #cups, since kubuntu uses cups for printing19:25
pulaskithanks for responding trappist I've found there now.19:26
hellhoundgenii: give me a sec this may take a min or two19:27
crackhead100hi, my screen saver is running realllllllllllllllllllllllllly slow.. i'm logged in remotely to my machine.. i don't want to have to reboot the machine or reboot the X session.. what should i do, to get my session viewable??19:28
geniihellhound: OK19:28
crackhead100genii: can you help? i know you're good19:28
MegiddoI can't find any documentation at all on Kitchensync... is that app outdated? I want to sync a WM6 phone with Kontact19:28
hellhoundgenii: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60900/19:29
trappistcrackhead100: run `top`, see what's eating your resources (first thing listed, usually) and kill it19:29
arcticpenguin380will shipit have kde 4 disks?19:29
crackhead100trappist: did that.. it rotates..19:29
geniicrackhead100: Likely it's just a machine in the middle someplace thats causing the slowdown, about which not much can be done. Have you done a tracepath to your remote box?19:29
geniihellhound: Reading19:29
crackhead100genii: it's definitely the local machine19:30
crackhead100trappist: what do i do if it's "swap"??19:30
flipstararcticpenguin380: nope..they dont have beta's yet19:31
MegiddoI can't find any documentation at all on Kitchensync... is that app outdated? I want to sync a WM6 phone with Kontact19:31
crackhead100trappist: can i kill kswapd?19:31
crackhead100trappist: how can i make the swap bigger,t oo, as i think that must be what's slowing it?19:31
flipstaryou shouldnt kill kswapd19:31
arcticpenguin380when hardy is released will they have kde4 discs?19:32
crackhead100flipstar: can i make kswap bigger?19:32
geniihellhound: I would suggest to comment out the line 7119:32
crackhead100flipstar: could the swap be too small? or does that change take a partition restructuring?19:32
flipstaryou can increase swap by resizing the disc/swap partitiion19:32
crackhead100flipstar: yeah, i can't really do that on the fly, from within the session, from a command console, can i?19:32
crackhead100flipstar: do you know how i can tell swap to stop dragging everything so slow in this session?19:33
flipstarsince it probably is mounted..nope19:33
hellhoundgenii: the Option "dpms" on the monitor section19:33
Kheopsi read19:33
Kheopsis not on the fstab19:33
Kheopshmmm strange19:34
Kheopsi mounted the partition and he isn't there19:34
Kheops:|19:34
geniihellhound: Yes. Although likely it will not be some dramatic improvement. I was looking for dri or xgl extensions in there, but none.19:34
flipstarKheops: if you mount something it doesnt appear suddenly in fstab19:34
crackhead100flipstar: i got back in... it was kopete and firefox which were slowing things down...19:34
crackhead100flipstar: you have any suggestions to cure that in the future?19:34
trappistcrackhead100: if swap's killing you it's because something's using way too much memory.  run top again and hit shift-m to sort by memory usage, and see what it is19:34
Kheopshhmmmm19:35
Kheopsbut ?19:35
Kheopshow can i save the mounting?19:35
flipstarcrackhead100: which client are you using ? maybe you could get a better one..19:35
crackhead100trappist: i got in.. i killed firefox and kopete19:35
Kheopsafter rebooting no mount19:35
Kheops:)19:35
geniihellhound: You may want to install the proprietary ati driver.19:35
crackhead100flipstar: i'm using kubuntu 7.10.. what do you mean? oh... kopete.. and firefox were the culprits...19:35
trappistcrackhead100: yeah firefox leaks pretty bad.  consider switching to firefox3-beta, much better on your memory19:35
flipstarcrackhead100: oh youre connected via ssh ?19:36
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flipstari thought it might be vnc or so19:36
Kheopsflipstar: so how can i save my mount ?19:36
rcg1984flipstar:  Thanks, it's working now :-)19:36
flipstarKheops: add it in fstab19:36
crackhead100flipstar: well, i was.. to the command.. 'cause it was so slow, i couldnt drop via alt-f6 or whatever..19:36
Kheopshmm oky19:36
crackhead100trappist: what about kopete?19:36
flipstarrcg1984: cool :)19:36
poulicroquekopete is nul19:37
Kheopsi can type a command or something like that ?19:37
poulicroquekopete is for noob19:37
hellhoundgenii: yeah i am just using it as a file server... but it is very time consuming to edit my samba conf  ...etc (i do not have it up yet to the other desktops so i do not know it runs slow as fr as moving and saving files)19:37
flipstarKheops: someone posted a helpful link for you some time ago..19:37
Kheopsi read it19:37
Kheops;)19:37
crackhead100poulicroque: then what's better for combining a few aim names very efficiently.. ?19:38
Kheopsbut don't exist any usefull command ?19:38
trappistcrackhead100: never heard of serious problems with kopete - I use bitlbee for chat, and my wife uses ... um, used to be called gaim, I forget what it's called now19:38
Kheopstrappist: u use linux for chating ?19:39
Kheops:)))))19:39
trappistKheops: of course, I use it for everything19:39
crackhead100Kheops: yes.. some of us like to talk to people toooo : )19:39
Kheopslol19:39
Kheopslinux is not for fun..19:39
geniihellhound: If you have restricted-manager-kde, you can run it by: alt-f2 ... restricted-manager-kde   and it should tell you if there is a suitable driver to install19:39
Kheopsand games19:39
Kheopsand chating19:39
poulicroquepoulicroque19:39
trappistKheops: if you say so19:39
Kheopsand other stuff like this19:39
crackhead100Kheops: then it's useless by that definition19:39
Kheopsnop19:39
crackhead100Kheops: not all of us are sysadmins : P19:40
Kheopsit is usefull to Servers19:40
Kheopsthat's all19:40
poulicroquemcdonnald is  good..19:40
trappistooh a troll!19:40
poulicroquexd19:40
KheopsWin32 best bussniess ever seen19:40
Kheops:)19:40
crackhead100Kheops: wow, great evangelist you are..19:40
Kheopsthat's why u aren't rich19:40
Kheops;)19:40
Kheopsi'm Dark Archon or Dark Angel19:40
Kheops:)19:40
trappistanyhoo...19:41
crackhead100trappist: yeah, what other advice19:41
Kheopsbrb i have to work now don't use linux for CHATING19:41
Kheops:)))19:41
trappistcrackhead100: I just snooped my wife's process list to see what's running, but apparently the process is still called 'gaim' even if the app isn't19:41
trappistcrackhead100: pidgin!19:42
crackhead100trappist: yeah.. gaim doesnt work as well.. pidgin.. i dont know.. i will have to check.. it seems not to be as space efficient on the desktop.. kopete is really customizable..19:42
trappistanyway she never seems to have any problems with it19:42
crackhead100trappist: i have thousands of contacts in mine.. so i need something better for a power user..19:43
trappistcrackhead100: ah, I don't have the kind of chat experience to give you a recommendation there19:43
crackhead100trappist: what's a good channel on this server fo rme to check?19:44
MegiddoI can't find any documentation at all on Kitchensync... is that app outdated? I want to sync a WM6 phone with Kontact19:44
trappistcrackhead100: I use bitlbee, which runs as an irc server and is an irc-to-instant-message gateway, so I do all my chatting in my irc client... over ssh, in a screen session, so I never disconnect, I just reattach19:44
trappistcrackhead100: I dunno, most channels are product-specific19:44
hellhoundgenii: it responded "your hardware does not need any restricted drivers"19:45
crackhead100trappist: that's interesting.. ill have to check it out.. that probably makes it a lot faster.. and more stable..19:45
crackhead100trappist: but then which irc client are you using? id need to have a really customizable irc client.. easy with keystrokes and lots of options..19:46
trappistcrackhead100: yep.  not sure what challenges might be presented by thousands of buddies, though.  might work out just fine, or you may need to tweak your irc client19:46
trappistcrackhead100: I use irssi, which is a console client, so *very* keystroke-friendly, and also very highly customizable19:46
crackhead100how can i check and see if my swap can be extended, btw?19:47
geniihellhound: OK. So it may then be some other issue causing slowdowns. Have you ran memtest on the ram in the box to make sure it passes?19:49
trappistcrackhead100: how much ram do you have, how much swap, and are you running 32bit or 64bit19:49
hellhoundgenii: yes and it passed without any errors19:49
trappistcrackhead100: basically if you're running 32bit, you can have a total of 4GB of addressable memory including swap (which should be more than enough unless something's gone so horribly wrong no amount of memory will save you) and if you're 64bit I'm not sure what the limit is but it's way more than you'll ever need19:50
pulaskiThanks trappist,  I have a little more to go on now.  cya19:50
trappistpulaski: enjoy :)19:50
crackhead100trappist: 32..19:50
cdpukHi all, anyone know what settings to use to get KVpnc to connect to a Win XP VPN server?19:51
crackhead100trappist: i have 2gb of real ram sticks.. and then not sure how much swap.. i could be at 4 already total..19:51
geniihellhound: Is it using the hard drive a lot?19:51
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hellhoundgenii: right now yes ( i am copying my backup of files to the harddrives now... but I notice no changes even when it is not copying and even after a fresh boot19:52
trappistcrackhead100: probably no reason to add to that.  if you got into swap with that much ram, something was leaking badly and you wouldn't ended up in the same situation, just might've taken longer19:52
crackhead100trappist: ill update to ffbeta3 and see what happens19:53
crackhead100trappist: where do i get ffb3?19:53
trappisthttp://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/all-beta.html19:54
flipstarhttp://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases19:54
flipstarmine is longer :P:P19:55
crackhead100trappist: if i see it in my adept, is that the smae? ff3? i shouldnt have to get it from their repo necessarily, right?19:55
server_hola soy nuevo con unbutu19:55
trappistcrackhead100: if it's in adept and you're on gutsy, I have no idea because it's not in any official gutsy repos19:56
server_como puedo actualizar unbutu desde internet19:56
trappistcrackhead100: if you were to upgrade to hardy, it's there by default19:56
geniihellhound: Perhaps put into pastebin: result of command dmesg              and contents of file /var/log/syslog   for scrutiny19:56
trappist!es | server_19:56
ubotuserver_: En el canal donde esta solo se premite hablar ingles. Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.19:56
server_tengo la version 6.10 a la ultima versión19:56
trappistcrackhead100: but note, hardy's not released, and officially not stable, etc.19:56
server_gracias19:56
crackhead100trappist: im staying on gutsy for now.. it's some other repo.. dont know.. alexander sack.. seems to be a gutsy bakcport universe19:57
trappistcrackhead100: apt-cache policy packagename should tell you more about the version19:57
jhutchins_wkcrackhead100: Running beta software is how you get into these problems in the first place.19:58
trappistjhutchins_wk: actually he got into this problem running firefox2 :)19:58
crackhead100jhutchins_wk: however if ff was the culprit leaking mem, and its beta is iknown to be better, shouldnt ..19:59
trappistcrackhead100: yes :)19:59
jhutchins_wkcrackhead100: The thing about betas is that they're betas for a reason.19:59
crackhead100trappist: i just installed ff3.. however, it didnt load when i loaded the firefox now?? (i closed and reopened it..)19:59
trappistcrackhead100: it's probably a new command line... I have no idea how it was packaged, but it's probably designed to not step on your ff220:00
jhutchins_wkcdpuk: kvpnc doesn't work well with pptp, you need to work with the pptp tools from the console.20:00
trappistcrackhead100: try dpkg -L packagename | grep bin20:00
jhutchins_wkcrackhead100: Did you install it from an ubuntu package or from the mozilla installer?20:01
cdpukjhutchins_wk: I seem to have got it working, it just wasn't nagging me to install pptp unless I reselected the profile, so I had no idea it wasn't installed - thanks anyway20:01
hellhoundgenii: ok my dmesg is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60906/20:05
geniihellhound: Reading20:05
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Vermuxhow do I create the icon that switch between languages?20:08
crackhead100trappist: ok, works.. we'll see how ff3 works now.. thanks for all the help20:09
hellhoundgenii: ok and my /var/log/syslog is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60907/20:09
geniihellhound: From the very last line of your dmesg it looks like it loses sync with your pointing device there20:10
hellhoundgenii: i have a logitech usb trackman wheel20:11
geniihellhound: Did you try the same device on another ubuntu box to see if the same issue occurs?20:16
geniihellhound: Reading second paste20:16
freeze__guten abend ich hab kürzlich kubuntu 7.10 installiert und versuche vergebens das mikro unter teamspeak funktionabel zu machen. installiert files sind alsa-oss alsa-source und alsa-utils20:17
freeze__höre tu ich alles20:18
geniihellhound: I'm thinking it's your pointing device now20:18
freeze__*n20:18
freeze__ich hab schon stunden vor googel verbracht ohne eine lösung zu finden20:19
ErtainHello everyone.  Whenever my computer boots up the networking service doesn't start automatically, even though System Settings says it starts a boot up.20:19
trappist!de | freeze__20:19
trappisthellooooo bot20:19
freeze__not a german channel?20:19
ErtainEvery time I have to do "/etc/init.d/networking restart".20:19
trappistfreeze__: this one is english - try #kubuntu-de or #ubuntu-de20:19
freeze__oh sorry20:20
geniifreeze__: English questions here20:20
freeze__ok thanks20:20
trappistno problem :)20:20
bogdanbivhello20:21
hellhoundgenii: hehehe you are right... i forgot i had on one of those usb to ps/2 adaptors on .. i took it off and plugged straight to usb and it works much better now... the only drag seems to be due to the massive file copying (78.2 gb from external USB harddrivbe to a RAID 5 array)20:23
hellhoundgenii: thank you... something so simple... that is the way it goes20:23
geniihellhound: Yup :) Glad to help20:24
dthacker-workHi.  I'm getting the following error on boot "Kernel Panic - not syncing: VFS : Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)20:25
=== Dannilionz is now known as Dannilion
dthacker-workIt reads grub, so the disk must be spinning.20:27
geniidthacker-work: You usually get that when it can't read/find the initrd. Did you shut down during an upgrade before it re-ran initramfs ?20:28
dthacker-workgenii: I had a temp shutdown on laptop during an upgrade, yes.20:29
geniidthacker-work: OK. So the basic process here is to boot to livecd, then mount the old / and chroot there. Then to install in the chrooted environment some kernel image which is usable. It will rebuild the initrd20:32
dthacker-workgenii: Ok, booting from a kubuntu gutsy livecd.  What option do I take at the first screen?20:33
geniiwork, afk20:33
dustin_hey20:35
dthacker-workOk, I hit escape, went to text mode, got the boot: prompt.  Type in "rescue" and hit enter.  Got "could not find kernel image: rescue"20:38
geniiback20:39
geniidthacker-work: Are you using a gui cd or the alternat or server cd?20:39
dthacker-workgenii: I've only got GUI cd's handy20:40
geniidthacker-work: Good. Don't worry about going into rescue mode of the cd. Boot it up until you get the desktop.20:41
dthacker-workok, booting.  BTW this is a kubuntu 7.10 LiveCD20:41
MegiddoCan anyone help me sync a WM6 device?20:42
MegiddoNothing works20:42
geniidthacker-work: After it boots - make a directory to mount the old root under. Like: mkdir /mnt/tmp              Which partition was it on?20:42
Kheopshi hi20:43
Kheopsi want to create an NTFS partition for my system20:43
dthacker-workgenii: I'm not sure, It was a vanilla install so maybe /dev/sda1?20:43
Kheopshow can i do this ?20:44
dthacker-work!ntfs20:44
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE20:44
flipstarKheops: you probably need windows to create a windows partition20:44
Vermuxhow do I create the icon on the taskbar that switches between languages?20:45
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Kheopslol20:46
Kheops:)20:46
geniidthacker-work: OK assuming sda1:sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/tmp;sudo mount -o bind /dev /mnt/tmp/dev;sudo mount -o bind /sys /mnt/tmp/sys;sudo mount -t proc proc /mnt/tmp/proc    Then sudo chroot /mnt/tmp     You should be then able to install a viable kernel image for now20:46
Kheopsi just format it..20:46
Kheopsfor linux..and i want to mount it as ntfs20:47
geniidthacker-work:  I forgot a slash before /proc, insert it20:47
geniiBah I'll just repost20:47
geniidthacker-work: Repost with slash in correct spot :) OK assuming sda1:sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/tmp;sudo mount -o bind /dev /mnt/tmp/dev;sudo mount -o bind /sys /mnt/tmp/sys;sudo mount -t proc /proc /mnt/tmp/proc20:48
dthacker-workgenii: ok working through your comands.20:49
geniidthacker-work: Then sudo chroot /mnt/tmp20:49
Kheopshow can i make ntfs on kubuntu ?20:50
SlimeyPete!ntfs20:50
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE20:50
Kheopsi read20:50
Kheopsno info20:50
SlimeyPeteoh, *make* ntfs? You want to create a new ntfs partition?20:50
KheopsYES20:50
geniidthacker-work: A safe kernel if you did a 32 bit install is:     linux-image-2.6.22-14-38620:50
Kheopsso how can i do this20:51
Kheops?20:51
flipstarisnt the generic to prefer ?20:51
SlimeyPeteAha. Right. Not sure if that's even possible yet.20:51
Kheopshow can i make ntfs on kubuntu ????20:52
flipstarKheops: you probably need windows to create a windows partition20:52
Kheopsno20:52
geniidthacker-work: You can install by: apt-get install linux-image-2.6.22-14-386              or as flipstar suggests the generic one by: apt-get install linux-image20:52
eegoreis there a way to correct page offset on a printer20:52
Kheopsu don't say it correctly flipstar20:52
Kheopstry again20:52
flipstarKheops: if you know it, why you asking ?20:52
geniidthacker-work: Hopefully the files to build from are in the old /var/cache/apt/archives directory20:53
SlimeyPeteKheops: looks like you need to use mkfs.ntfs somehow. The manual is at: http://linux.die.net/man/8/mkfs.ntfs20:53
SlimeyPetebut I've never done it so can't give any further help20:53
geniidthacker-work: Did it give some message, or else working, etc?20:53
Kheopsk20:53
Kheops:)))20:53
Kheopsok ok20:54
Kheopsno need other programs20:54
Kheopsto do that20:54
Kheopsanother ppl to help ?20:54
dthacker-workgenii: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually type dpkg --configur -s to correct the problem.   Now following directions.....20:54
geniidthacker-work: It may be unable to complete that, since we did not copy over any networking info/setups before chroot. But hopefully it will use what it had previously20:55
dthacker-workgenii: update-initramfs ran and generated /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic20:55
geniidthacker-work: gOOD. yOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO REBOOT TO THE HARD DRIVE NOW20:56
geniiBah capslock20:56
dthacker-workgenii: ok! fingers and toes crossed :)20:56
MegiddoIf apt-get reports a break for trying to upgrade a package, what does it mean and how do I override it?20:56
ccvpHello, in my computer I have an ATI Radeon 2400 HD, connecting to that is a vga connector, on the other end of that vga connector is 2 adapter connections for 2 monitors.............is there a way to have a extended monitor setup, using this, without having both monitors be a mirror image of each other?  so i can drag application windows into the monitor next to the existing monitor? etc....20:56
geniiI'll be back, work requires me20:57
flipstarMegiddo: you could try to uninstall the conflicted package20:58
flipstarif it is not essential/you dont need it20:59
Megiddo"python-opensync: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.7-1) but 2.6.1-1ubuntu10 is to be installed"20:59
MegiddoHow would I fix that?21:00
dthacker-workinstall libc6 2.7-1?21:03
JasonWardHi. how do I install RealPlayer for linux? its not in kmenu-->Add/Remove programs and sudo apt-get install RealPlayer21:05
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_Angelus_guys21:06
_Angelus_doesn't the new kubuntu has the restricted-driver-manager?21:06
_Angelus_:S21:06
dthacker-work!+121:06
geniiback21:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about 1 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi21:06
dthacker-workgenii: Thank You!  I am working again.21:06
geniidthacker-work: You're welcome21:06
darkwizzard_Hello guys, I updated the kernel and now I have no swap partition21:06
darkwizzard_what to do ?21:06
JasonWard Hi. how do I install RealPlayer for linux? its not in kmenu-->Add/Remove programs and sudo apt-get install RealPlayer21:07
dthacker-work!repeat21:08
ubotuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience21:08
dthacker-workJasonWard: or you can wait for my search to finish......21:08
JasonWarddthacker ok21:09
JasonWarddthacker-work: ok21:09
JasonWardwrong person21:09
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bogdanbihello, I mounted a stick (fat32 formated) with a user and I want write access for another user. How can I allow that?21:12
dthacker-workJasonWard: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=58795321:12
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dthacker-workJasonWard: also for your other package needs http://packages.ubuntu.com21:13
dthacker-workubotu : !ntfs | dthacker-work21:14
JasonWardthanks21:14
Megiddodthacker-work: How can I upgrade to libc6 2.7-1? It's not available through apt-get21:14
jack__during an upgrade from feisty the upgrader crashed, now apt-get is locked down.21:14
peterhow can i install the flash-player for the konqueror?21:15
dthacker-workMegiddo: that was a guess based on the error message.  You may have found a packaging bug.  You can file a bug or ask a question at Launchpad and they may be able to sort it out21:15
jack__peter just apt-get it21:15
dthacker-work!apt-fix21:16
ubotuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »21:16
delldimension?21:16
peterwhat is the name of the package?21:16
nosrednaekimflashplugin-nonfree21:16
jack__thanks dthacker21:17
delldimensionhow do i get my webcam to work?21:17
dthacker-workjack__: np :)21:17
delldimensionits fucked.21:17
darkwizzard__how do I get my swap partition back ? I upgraded the kernel.21:17
jack__Peter you should be able to find it by typing in flash21:17
darkwizzard__Any command to redetect them ?21:17
dthacker-work!language21:17
ubotuPlease watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.21:17
CJS3141I'm new to KDE, and just a quick simple question--how do  I change the digital clock in my panel to be on 12 hour time instead of 24 hour time?21:17
nosrednaekimCJS3141: in kde4?21:17
delldimensiongood question my clocks off also21:17
CJS3141nosrednaekim: yes21:18
dthacker-work!webcam21:18
ubotuInstructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras21:18
nosrednaekimCJS3141: there isn't a way AFAIK.21:18
delldimensionthanks you21:18
CJS3141nosrednaekim: really? I have to use 24 hour time? That's crazy.21:18
CJS3141Why would KDE force you to use 24 hour time? Seems silly.21:19
nosrednaekimCJS3141: yeah...well, they are working on these things...21:19
dthacker-workCJS3141: could be a bug.  Have you filed one or checked the database?21:19
dthacker-worklinux is all about the feedback......21:20
CJS3141dthacker-work: No, it seemed like it should be such a simple thing--I mean how many of you prefer 24 over 12 hour display?21:20
darkwizzard__how do I get my swap partition back ? I upgraded the kernel.21:20
jimmy51_officehello, i accidentally nuked my passwd file21:21
jimmy51_officecan someone help me rebuild it?  i'm currently editing in nano but don't know what to do21:21
JasonWarddthacker-work: I looked at that but it's for feisty. I tried changing the name to gutsy but it didn't work, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=58795321:21
nosrednaekimdarkwizzard__: add a swap partition entry to the /etc/fstab21:22
nosrednaekim!swap21:22
ubotuswap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info21:22
nosrednaekimjimmy51_office: what file exactly21:22
jimmy51_officenosrednaekim:  /etc/passwd21:22
darkwizzard__but it need an uuid21:22
dthacker-workJasonWard: in that case there may not be package for Gutsy, and you'll have to do some Googling to find out why21:22
darkwizzard__it needs21:22
JasonWardok21:22
nosrednaekimjimmy51_office: darkwizzard__it doesn'tneed a uuid, you can mount by partition number (/dev/hdax"21:23
jack__hey dthacker in my 3 or 4 years of using linux I have noticed that apt breaks quite often where one has to do the apt-fix, should those front ends make a button that will just run that script, & have the button appear any time that aptt breaks?21:24
jimmy51_officenosrednaekim:  i've got a line for root:  root:x:0:0:root:/root:/bin/bash   .... i just odn't know how to remake my user's line21:24
nosrednaekimjimmy51_office: thats fairly simple to rebuild.21:24
nosrednaekimjimmy51_office: you need the whole thing... letme pastebin it21:25
jimmy51_officenosrednaekim:  ok, so if my username was jimmy51, what would the line for it look like?  Kubuntu 7.1021:25
jimmy51_officenosrednaekim:  ok, thanks21:25
jack__Others can answer my question too21:25
nosrednaekimjimmy51_office: are you the only, and first user?21:29
fuhrealDoes anyone know how to get rid of the animated "extra" button that shows up in the kicker when an app is launched?21:30
jimmy51_officenosrednaekim:  i'm the first, but if i see the syntax of the first i can figure out the second21:30
jack__ In my 3 or 4 years of using linux I have noticed that apt breaks quite often where one has to do the apt-fix, shouldn't those front ends make a button that will just run that script, & have the button appear any time that apt breaks?21:30
nosrednaekimfuhreal: kcontrol->launch feedback21:30
nosrednaekimjimmy51_office: ok21:30
dthacker-workjack__: patches welcome21:31
nosrednaekimjimmy51_office: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60922/21:31
nosrednaekimlater users have UID of 1001, 1002, etc21:32
fuhrealnosrednaekim: ty ... any idea how to add commands to kde startup :)21:32
nosrednaekim!autostart21:32
ubotuTo make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.21:32
jimmy51_officenosrednaekim:  wow, that's a lot more elaborate than i would have guessed!  thanks for posting that, i'll save it locally and start typing on my broke box.21:32
nosrednaekimok21:32
nosrednaekimjimmy51_office: Its just copy paste from my install ;)21:33
BusErrorafter finaly upgrading to heron, the X11 session is very jerky when used via synergy. it pauses for about 3 seconds every 10 seconds... doesn't happend with the local mouse/keybaord21:33
nosrednaekim!hardy21:34
ubotuHardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu21:34
jimmy51_officenosrednaekim:  it should match mine, if it's 7.10.  thanks for the help21:34
fuhrealnosrednaekim: so whatever shell scripts i put into ~/.kde/Autostart will run on boot ?21:34
fuhrealerr run on kde loading rather ..21:34
nosrednaekimjimmy51_office: it shouldn't matter what version.... that would probably work with  linux from 199621:34
nosrednaekimfuhreal: yes21:34
fuhrealcool21:35
fuhrealtime to test it21:35
fuhrealty21:35
flipstarnosrednaekim: are all these users essentially needed (in the file you pasted)21:35
flipstar+?21:35
nosrednaekimflipstar: probably not21:35
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linuxguymarshallIs there a way I can make a non-password protected account?21:42
unix_infidel!sources21:42
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories21:42
jimmy51_officenosrednaekim:  you. are. the. MAN.21:44
flipstar!helpersnack | nosrednaekim :)21:45
ubotunosrednaekim :): Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!21:45
linuxguymarshallHow can I mount an ISO image to extract the contents?21:45
unix_infidel!sources.list21:46
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories21:46
nosrednaekim!ISO21:46
ubotuTo mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.21:46
flipstarlinuxguymarshall: mount -t iso9660 -o loop <iso> <mountpoint>21:46
firecrotchDoes anyone know of any problems with the Hardy Beta-KDE4 image?21:46
ahmoshi,how i can upgrade to a newer kde21:47
unix_infidelis sourceomatic dead?21:47
nosrednaekimunix_infidel: ys21:48
unix_infidelnosrednaekim: alternatives?21:48
jimmy51_officeahmos: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-install-kde-40-stable-in-ubuntu-gutsy.html21:49
phoenixzEvery time I do something with adept, an error comes by but all works ok though..  "Session management error: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed"21:49
nosrednaekimunix_infidel: use the included adept application21:49
ahmosthank's21:49
nosrednaekimadept-> manage repositories21:49
phoenixzAnybody on what this might mean, and how I can fix this?21:49
joshkcan someone with 7.10 tell me where kdm is in /etc/rc*.d?21:51
ahmos is there an older version than kde4 nd newer than 3.5.8?21:52
firecrotchahmos:  3.5.921:52
jussio1ahmos: 3.5.921:52
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joshkc'mon.. this is easy .. :)21:52
joshki just want the xx numbers like /etc/rc2.d/Sxxkdm21:52
joshkobviously, i don't have a kubuntu box in front of me..21:53
ahmosok and how to install it?21:53
kiki67100Hey21:53
kiki67100!21:53
joshkor.. does kubuntu use gdm?21:53
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ahmossorry but how i can install the kde 3.5.9?21:55
Ukonpoika!upgrade | ahmos21:56
ubotuahmos: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes21:56
kiki67100i'm with 'ARK'21:56
kiki67100i'm  with backtrack v221:57
kiki67100do you can help me ?21:57
kiki67100ARK crash  , in command line  post me21:59
kiki67100ark (kdeutils): FATAL: libark could not found. Aborting.21:59
kiki67100ERROR: Communication problem with ark, it probably crashed.21:59
kiki67100KCrash: Application 'ark' crashing...21:59
francesco!it22:01
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!22:01
kiki67100you don't speak english here ?22:03
nosrednaekim!bug22:03
ubotuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots22:03
jhutchins_wkkiki67100: Did you install ark?  Sounds like part of it is missing.22:04
flipstarkiki67100: try reinstalling ark22:04
kiki67100ok22:06
kiki67100How reinstalling ARK with command line22:06
flipstarapt-get --reinstall install ark22:06
kiki67100with backtrack v222:07
kiki67100apt-get nod found22:07
kiki67100no found22:07
flipstarhm youre using kubuntu?22:08
kiki67100using backtrack22:08
flipstarbtw whats backtrack ?22:08
kiki67100Yes i'm use backtrack v222:09
algyzapt-cache search ark22:09
algyzark - graphical archiving tool for KDE22:09
flipstarif backtrack is an OS goto #<backtrack_support_channel>22:09
kiki67100apt-cache: command not found22:10
Ukonpoikakiki67100, what is your native language?22:10
flipstarkiki67100: this here is the kubuntu channel..not the backtrack channel22:10
flipstarkiki67100: we cant help you..go to #backtrack if it exists22:11
kiki67100my language is french22:11
algyz!fr22:11
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.22:11
kiki67100there is nobody22:12
flipstarhe isnt using *ubuntu22:12
flipstarkiki67100: we dont support backtrack here.22:12
jussio1kiki67100: I suggest you try in #linux22:12
kiki67100Ok22:13
kiki67100i make suggesting22:13
kiki67100ty everybody22:14
kiki67100bye ...22:15
vltHello. Any idea how to get rid of blurry fonts in KDE?22:18
ahmoshi there is a file in the kwin source directory i want to apply it with patch -p3,how i can do that?!22:20
jussio1vlt: systemsettings, appearance, fonts, use antialiasing22:21
francesco!it22:21
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!22:21
vltjussio1: Thanks, I'll try.22:21
enoj_Any idea how I can get some better looking fonts? screenshot with anti aliasing on and force 96 dpi: http://skittent.net/~enoj/snapshot8.png22:21
flipstarahmos: man patch22:22
ahmosi'm going to try22:23
algyzenoj_:  edit>preferences>content>fonts and colors22:23
ahmoshi flipstar how r u?:)22:23
level1Hi, I wrote a script that I think might make kde a little faster.  Is there anyone here who can help me test it?22:24
enoj_algyz: didn't mean firefox only22:24
algyzlevel1:  I think in #kde they will ;)22:24
mwilliamsHow do I make a profile without a password?22:24
algyzenoj_: almost everything you'll find in system settings :)22:25
mwilliamsalgyz:I have already tried looking there22:25
algyzmwilliams:  do you want automatic login?22:26
level1mwilliams: you could create a profile, and then run "sudo passwd <username>" and set the password as nothing22:26
vltjussio1: Aah, better! Why isn't that default?22:26
mwilliamsalgyz:No, just a limited account where there is no login password22:26
level1mwilliams: autologin is pretty nice btw22:26
phoenixz Every time I do something with adept, an error comes by but all works ok though..  "Session management error: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed"22:27
phoenixzAnybody on what this might mean, and how I can fix this?22:27
jussio1vlt: great, and no idea22:27
mwilliamslevel1:I have multiple users, I just need a guest profile22:27
level1phoenixz: that reminds me a great C++ error: "ISO C++ forbids declaration of 'operator' with no type"22:28
algyzenoj_:  in kde 3.5.8 fonts are system settings>look&feel>appearance22:28
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level1algyz: #kde didn't like it22:29
level1haha22:29
algyzcrazy boys :)22:29
ahmosflipstar sorr but i want to do this.. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60926/22:32
flipstarahmos: okay..22:34
ahmos:)22:35
flipstaryou have problems with that ?22:36
ahmosi don't know how to make that..it is supposed to fix a xorg bug22:36
flipstardid you read the describtion at the end of the text ?22:37
ahmosyes22:38
ahmosi'm some how new to linux.. and you used to help me every time ;)22:39
nosrednaekimahmos: eventually you'll hae to learn to do things yourself22:39
ahmosbut i'm trying22:40
ahmosthis is the first time to try to fix a bug :(22:42
ahmosand i'm totally confused like usual...since i started to use linux :(22:44
Bizzehhey, is the boot sequence in ubuntu and kubuntu the same?22:44
flipstarahmos: you have a good describtion there22:44
ahmos:)22:45
flipstarBizzeh: basicly yes i guess but they got different services22:46
nosrednaekimBizzeh: excluding the starting of kdm22:46
nosrednaekimyes22:46
nosrednaekimahmos: woah... what bug are you trying to fix?22:46
ahmoshttp://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14325522:47
Bizzehso, the grub entry would be the same right?22:47
ahmosis the link ok or want me to explain22:47
Bizzehwith the change of "title"22:47
flipstarBizzeh: yes22:47
flipstartitle is optional :)22:48
Bizzehok, so can someone in here answer me this then since nobody seems to want to answer me in #ubuntu, is this correct for booting ubuntu http://rafb.net/p/QQgEqQ79.html ?22:48
flipstarahmos: this bug/patch is for kde3.5.6 .. you probably using (with gutsy) version 3.5.822:49
ahmosoops22:50
flipstarBizzeh: lol what they doing in #ubuntu ? :)22:50
Bizzehflipstar: pretty much ignoring me, and i think someone just started a linux vs windows war22:50
flipstarohoh22:51
nosrednaekimlookin Bizzeh22:51
nosrednaekimBizzeh: actually, even the title is the same with kbuntu22:51
leo_rockwgreetings22:51
Bizzehmy ubuntu install is as follows, i have a 250gb hdd, 210gb for windows + other crap, then 50mb ubuntu /boot, 500mb ubuntu swap, rest for ubuntu /22:52
ahmosbut i have that problem...when i leave my computer turned on through the night with out using it ,i wake up with the system hanging..mouse pointer moving but no respond for commands, so i have to make hard restart22:52
Bizzeh/boot is ext2, and / is ext322:52
flipstarBizzeh: which file is this paste from ?22:53
nosrednaekimBizzeh: whats with the mapper stuff? do you have RAID?22:53
flipstaryes the mapper stuff is raid22:53
flipstarahmos: this doesnt happen without superkaramba ?22:54
Bizzehmenu.lst in vista (i installed grub via vista, since i already had a setup to do that, and i added in the c+p i got from a ubuntu wiki and modded it a bit)22:54
Bizzehno, no raid, just 3 sata drives and 2 usb drives22:54
ahmosand is there a solution?22:54
leo_rockwahmos: can you repeat your problem please? i just entered the channel22:55
flipstarBizzeh: hard disc are normally not laying in /dev/mapper around.. oO22:55
ahmoswhen i leave my computer turned on through the night with out using it ,i wake up with the system hanging..mouse pointer moving but no respond for commands, so i have to make hard restart22:55
leo_rockwahmos: you may want to try this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key#Raising_Elephants22:55
Bizzehso, change root=/dev... to root=/dev/sda4 ?22:56
leo_rockwahmos: and then dmesg tail22:56
leo_rockwahmos: that might shed some light22:56
flipstarBizzeh: you using *ubuntu right now ?22:56
ahmosi'm going to try22:56
leo_rockwahmos: if you manage to return to terminal, that is22:56
Bizzehflipstar: no, im sat in vista right now22:56
algyzahmos:  first try restart X with ctrl+alt+backspace22:57
Bizzehbut my menu.lst is in my c:\ drive22:57
ahmosyes some times it works and the others not...as long as i leave the computer alt ctrl backspace don't work22:58
flipstarBizzeh: then check if this also refers to /dev/mapper ..22:58
leo_rockwahmos: usually the alt+sysrq method works even if ctrl+alt+backspace doesn't22:59
nosrednaekimBizzeh: http://rafb.net/p/L1EHeY94.html this is the correct entry22:59
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ahmosi got it...but you know there still a pressure on the cpu until for example i wake up and press these keys.no?23:00
Bizzehisnt the uuid, universaly unique?23:00
Bizzehwont i have a different uuid to you?23:00
flipstarit is..23:01
nosrednaekimBizzeh: ah..good catch.... sorry :)23:01
flipstarthe root probably also differs ..23:01
nosrednaekimBizzeh: yeah..change that to /dev/sda423:01
nosrednaekimflipstar: I changed that ;)23:01
slschris#hellug23:01
leo_rockwahmos: depends on what the problem is23:01
Bizzehbrb23:03
ahmosmost forums tills that this is a super karamba problem so i'm going to disable it23:03
ahmosbye bye superkaramba23:04
ahmosand i will see if the problem disappeard23:04
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linuxguymarshallAre there any dock programs avalible in adept?23:07
flipstarkooldock for e.g.23:07
linuxguymarshallthat is in adept?23:07
flipstarbtw how do i unzip an 7-zip archive in terminal ?23:08
Bizzehthat was it, ubuntu loads fine now23:08
Bizzehthanks guys23:08
nosrednaekimBizzeh: awesome :)23:09
flipstarlinuxguymarshall: yes it is in the universe repos23:09
linuxguymarshallflipstar:Thank you23:10
Bizzehthat was my biggest problem, second problem is, max res i can manage on this install is 1400x1050, yet my gfx card and monitor have a native res of 1680x1050, why cant i get the full 1680?23:10
ahmosI love linux community , congratulations Bizzeh23:10
nosrednaekimBizzeh: what graphics card23:12
Bizzehati HD3870xt23:12
nosrednaekimBizzeh: oo, is that one of those new ones (made in the last year)?23:14
Unit193how do i unzip 7z in ark?23:14
Bizzehnosrednaekim: came out in january i think23:15
Unit193it does not seem to work by default.23:15
flipstarUnit193: right click on the file then extract23:15
Unit193does not work...23:15
Bizzehill try the drivers package from the ati site, see if this works23:15
nosrednaekimBizzeh: yeah, you need them23:16
flipstarUnit193: whats the error ?23:16
Unit193i would have to be in linux..in win :( now23:16
flipstarthats a wired error message @_@23:17
Unit193well....23:17
Unit193missing package i think but when i look for it i can't find it...23:18
Bizzehright, installed, brb23:18
flipstarUnit193: ark can extract 7z files per default ..23:22
flipstar7-zip is opensource ..23:22
Unit193right...23:22
flipstarthere must been an error with the package..23:23
flipstaris there an error message while trying to extract ?23:23
Unit193can't even open23:23
icewatermananyone using sane? my scanner works only as root, seems a permission issue, but i havent found any udev rules that would change the permissions for the scanner23:24
icewatermani am using hardy btw.23:24
flipstarUnit193: then its probably an access/permission problem23:24
flipstaricewaterman: youre in the scanner group ? (btw go to #ubuntu+1 )23:25
icewatermanflipstar: k23:25
Unit193i'll try to change it...23:25
icewatermanflipstar: but i am in scanner group, just there seems to be no rule that would account for my scannr23:25
Unit193flipstar: i have feisty23:27
flipstarUnit193: type "kdesu konqueror" then navigate to the file right click>change permissions ¦ |23:28
ahmoswill kde 3.5.9 has the same problem to me ?23:30
markperryi just added the virtualbox source to my sources.list file, however I cannot find the gpg key on their website...can anyone point me to it?23:31
nosrednaekimmarkperry: you don't really need it23:32
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ahmoswhat kde you use nosrednaekim23:33
markperryjust tired of the error message everytime I run apt-get update upgrade23:34
nosrednaekimahmos: 4.0923:35
nosrednaekim*4.0.223:35
flipstaroO23:35
flipstarthats more realistic :)23:36
ahmosohh23:36
ahmosi'm afraid that when i upgrade,i mess up my oss ..:)23:37
ahmoslike i usually do :D23:38
flipstaryou cant actually upgrade to kde4..just install it beside23:38
Apple_Cat_Hi i think I'm having a problem with dns, though I don't know why, or how. If I try nslookup on myself it returns ** server can't find 1.0.0.127.in-addr.arpa: NXDOMAIN23:39
ahmosdoes it have alot of problems23:39
flipstarno major problems i would say23:39
ahmossorry for being silly ..but what is the diffrrence between gusty and hardy than kde23:41
flipstarsee http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/hardy/beta#head-e55186d5d312cfd6b8d74a407dbef271a1edfc46 for that23:41
blizzzek-kde4how can i refresh the classes-tree in kdevelop? it shows old/wrong functions; autocompletion is working correctly though23:42
Apple_Cat_ahmos, #kubuntu-offtopic might be a better place to ask23:42
p-fI want to create a file of exactly one gigabyte with random data in it, what would be the quickest/simplest way?23:42
ahmosdo you advice me to install the beta version or to wait for the stable version?!!23:43
p-fdd, nevermind23:44
flipstarkde4 does not mean hardy and hardy does not mean kde423:44
Apple_Cat_http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/suse-linux-help/58658-command-generate-large-dummy-files.html23:44
nosrednaekimahmos: wait for stable23:44
flipstarahmos: you also can use kde4 in gutsy23:44
markperrycan anyone point me to the gpg key for virtualbox?23:45
ahmosit is not a kde 4 problem but i need more stable version of the system23:45
nosrednaekimmarkperry: once you install virtualbox, commend out the repository...23:45
nosrednaekimmarkperry: or you can ask in #vbox23:46
ahmosin the same way i want to learn everything in linux but it seems too hard..23:46
markperryI asked in #vbox...they sent me here...lol23:46
Dr_willis_ahmos,  too hard? i find most of it rather straight forward. :)23:47
Dr_willis_learn the linux fundamentals and you cant go wrong.23:47
Dr_willis_just rember to pay attention to the details.23:47
Unit193i also can't get nmap to work with dial-up help?23:47
ahmosyes but i want to be like you all :D not just a normal user.. :D23:47
Dr_willis_read, read ,read, read,,, and did i mention read?23:48
Dr_willis_:)23:48
Dr_willis_then when needed, to back to what you read. when you need it..23:48
ahmosyes and may i mention your help, no? :)23:48
Dr_willis_Linux has gotten to be the most documented OS i know of. :)23:48
Dr_willis_of course some times the docs can be a little out of date in some places.. but the fundamenals havent changed much.23:48
Apple_Cat_again, maybe #kubuntu-offtopic would be a better place to talk23:49
Unit193me?23:49
Dr_willis_i missed the original question. :) i just joined.23:49
Dr_willis_nmap should work with dialup Unit193  - whats the specific problem>?23:49
Dr_willis_not work very fast... :) but it should work23:50
Unit193it says it...23:50
jnkhi everyone, I'm sure support questions drive you crazy, but I'm not finding an answer elsewhere, trying to upgrade kunbuntu alpha 6 to beta 8.04, I follow the instructions on the site, launch kdesu "adept_manager --dist-upgrade-devel", choose version upgrade, follow though, click "finish" at which point it's supposed to launch the upgrade manager, but it doesn't and I can't figure out why or how to just launch it manually instead23:50
Unit193well it's looking for DSL23:50
Dr_willis_jnk,  try just a 'sudo apt-get update' then 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' ?23:51
nosrednaekimjnk: since you are already using hardy, no need for a dist-upgrade23:51
jnkhmm23:52
jnkDr_willis_: I've done those commands, they seem to execute ok, but it's not exactly a dist upgrade23:53
jnknosrednaekim: ok, that makes sense, how does one upgrade from alpha6 to beta then?23:53
ere4siwhere can I set the system to shut down when I press the power button - can't find it anywhere?23:53
Dr_willis_jnk,  the normal update/upgrade does the alpha-> beta23:53
ahmosgoodbye flipstar,nosrednaekim and Dr_willis_ thank you all for giving me your time,meet you later23:54
jnkwell, it told me 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. when I ran those apt commands23:54
Dr_willis_jnk,  sounds to me like its all up to date.23:55
arcticpenguin380!kde423:55
ubotuKDE 4.0.2 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.2.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.2.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde423:55
flipstarjnk: check sources.list /run update-manager23:57
jnkDr_willis_: strange23:57
Dr_willis_jnk,  what makes you think its NOT up to date?23:59
* Dr_willis_ just realized he wasent in #ubuntu+1 , well he is.. but not here. :)23:59

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