[02:00] <Toobaz> does anyone know how to delete a translation (I made a typo in its title)?
[02:00] <Toobaz> it's this one: https://translations.launchpad.net/gueic/trunk/+pots/gueic-alarm
[02:00] <Toobaz> sorry: https://translations.launchpad.net/gueic/trunk/+pots/guiec-alarm
[04:14] <gryc> I'm sure this has been asked a thousand times, but is Launchpad going to have something like an integrated blog some time in the foreseeable future?
[04:35] <jamesh> gryc: do you mean as a personal thing, or a project thing?
[04:36] <jamesh> gryc: the project announcements feature probably covers the "project blog" bit.
[04:37] <gryc> I mean more along the line of a personal thing, the announcements feature does cover that quite well for projects
[09:21] <Seveas> kiko-afk, ping
[10:20] <cavedon> hi all!
[10:21] <cavedon> I have my PPA build failing when uploading to hardy PPA, and I am not able to understand why
[10:21] <cavedon> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/12837790/buildlog_ubuntu-hardy-amd64.wengophone_2.1.2.dfsg0-2.99~ppa1_CHROOTWAIT.txt.gz
[10:22] <cavedon> (short log :)
[10:22] <cavedon> there is an error, but I does not look like fatal
[10:22] <cavedon> tnx
[10:23] <Fujitsu> cavedon: Retry the build.
[10:23] <cavedon> ok
[10:23] <Fujitsu> cavedon: As of a few seconds before you joined the channel, the build will have worked.
[10:24] <Fujitsu> Bug #196782
[10:24] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 196782 in soyuz "First build in a new PPA fails" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/196782
[10:25] <cavedon> Fujitsu: I had already retried once, but I might have been a temporary failure; anyway I have just done it again
[10:27] <Fujitsu> cavedon: An explanation: A cron job called publisher publishes packages on ppa.launchpad.net. This also creates the new PPAs. Until it runs, your PPA doesn't exist, and it only runs every 20 minutes (at 0, 20, 40 minutes past the hour).
[10:27] <Fujitsu> PPA builds automatically look in your PPA for any dependencies.
[10:27] <Fujitsu> So it tried to look for a file in your PPA, which didn't actually exist yet.
[10:29] <cavedon> Fujitsu: thank you very much. Now it seems it has gone further in the build process!
[11:46] <ubotu> New bug: #203347 in language-pack-es "Wrong .mo filename: 'jokey.mo' must be 'jockey.mo'" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/203347
[12:07] <Hobbsee> you know, i really wish that there was a way to mark something as "invalid, and don't send me any more bugmail on it" for bugs.
[12:08] <Hobbsee> if it's not valid for my particular interest, then i really don't give a flying fig about the rest of the content of the bug, unless someone reopens my section of it.
[12:09] <Fujitsu> Hobbsee: But then life would be boring. We wouldn't have upstreams complaining about the email when we create bugs with 50 tasks.
[12:49] <rexbron> jkakar: Hello, I have been looking for a solution to automating the build process of debian binaries from upstream svn code. I currently have a hacked together and not nearly robust enough solution and am evaluating whether AutoPPA would be an appropreate solution. Would you have a moment to discuss this?
[12:49] <rexbron> s/svn/vsc
[13:13] <qense> How's the logo contest going?
[13:15] <Vadi> What is the average time I should wait for a translation to get imported before starting to worry?
[13:17] <Hobbsee> Vadi: i guess carlos is on leave, so maybe a month?
[13:17] <Hobbsee> he doesn't appear to be here yet, but would normally be
[13:19] <Vadi> Oh...
[13:20] <Vadi> Well, alright, thanks. That's an awfully long time
[13:23]  * Hobbsee really has no idea
[13:23] <Hobbsee> barry: when will translations be done by?
[13:24] <barry> Hobbsee: ?
[13:25] <barry> Hobbsee: i'm still trying to recover from pycon ;)
[13:25] <Hobbsee> barry: [00:15] <Vadi> What is the average time I should wait for a translation to get imported before starting to worry?
[13:26] <barry> Hobbsee: i don't know the answer to that :/  i'll have to ping someone else to try to find that out
[13:33] <Vadi> Great, thanks. I want to get a project to use launchpad for translations, but this importing is holding things up :/
[13:34] <qense> is bug 424 going to be 'fixed' in the future? The bugsquad is curious about this
[13:34] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 424 in malone "Bugs have no fields to specify package or product versions" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/424
[13:34] <qense> I think it would be a very good addition, along with an option to select the version of the distribution you're using
[13:35] <ubotu> New bug: #205997 in launchpad "+faq should redirect to +faqs when the faq id is not an int" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/205997
[13:37] <Hobbsee> qense: btw, with your #k-d question yesterday, you'd proabably need to find out *which* apps/libs in particular needed to be added to make it all work
[13:37] <Hobbsee> i don't think hte kde4 metapackage and dependancies would fit on the cd
[13:39] <qense> Did I ask something at #kubuntu-desktop?
[13:39] <qense> I don't use KDE
[13:40] <qense> my nick is registered, but I forgot the password so it could be someone else
[13:40] <Hobbsee> qense: highlighting a bug.  i think so.  the nick certainly started with q.
[13:41] <Hobbsee> might have been the day before yesterday, though
[13:41] <qense> I've never logged on at that channel before, but I could have asked something about a KDE bug, but that would be a very rare case
[13:43] <Hobbsee> oh, was druke, sorry.  no idea how i managed to mangle that one.
[13:43]  * Hobbsee is going mad, apparently.
[13:45]  * qense could also be the one going mad ;)
[14:00] <ubotu> New bug: #206005 in launchpad "LookupError Packaging instance" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/206005
[15:06] <cgregan> Good morning...I wanted to confirm information on the concept of "super-projects" in Launchpad. Does anyone have a moment to discuss?
[15:21] <ubotu> New bug: #206038 in launchpad "launchpad diagram looks bad" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/206038
[15:43] <ubotu> New bug: #206058 in launchpad "Team Administrators cannot change their membership expiration date" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/206058
[15:51] <nxvl> is there any problem with ppa?
[15:51] <nxvl> i can't upload files with error "Connection failed, aborting. Check your network (111, 'Connection refused')"
[15:54]  * qense is away: I'm busy
[15:59] <Toobaz> I have a problem with translations (a pair of templates have to be removed), is there anyone willing to tell me how to do? And if (as I suspect) an admin is needed to do it, is there any admin willing to do it?
[16:00] <beuno> Toobaz, your best shot at it is to file a question in: https://answers.launchpad.net/rosetta/
[16:02] <Toobaz> thank you, I'll do it
[16:03]  * qense is back (gone 00:09:41)
[16:04] <beuno> qense, please deactivate those automatic messages, they're pretty annoying  :)
[16:05] <qense> oh, I'm sorry
[16:05] <qense> I didn't know I had activted them anyway :)
[16:05] <beuno> qense, no problem, thanks!
[18:34] <qense> hello
[18:34] <qense> I saw that ubuntu bugcontrol has its own maillist at launchpad
[18:34] <qense> how do you activate it? I can't find the link to it
[18:34] <qense> (I mean to start an own for your own group)
[18:34]  * kiko pokes barry 
[18:46] <barry> qense: by the end of this week it will be very easy to request a mailing list
[18:46] <qense> ok, thx
[18:46] <kiko> right now it is not very easy to either request one or to participate in one :)
[18:46] <barry> qense: right now you have to do this: https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[18:46] <barry> kiko: right ;)
[18:47] <barry> qense: if you can wait, that would be best, but if not, let me know
[18:47] <qense> I can wait
[18:47] <barry> cool
[18:47] <qense> I'll try to look out for errors
[18:49] <barry> qense: feel free to ping me directly with any questions
[18:49] <qense> ok
[18:53] <qense> I just need to give one group a maillist, the others can wait
[19:39] <cgregan> Hello...I'm wondering if super projects see the bugs entered under it's subordinate projects?
[19:57] <matsubara> cgregan, something like https://launchpad.net/launchpad-project/+bugs ?
[20:00] <cgregan> matsubara: Exactly! Thanks....follow-up question. What is the process for making a standard project into a super?
[20:02] <matsubara> cgregan, ask in https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad and include the name of the super project and the subordinate projects that will go under it.
[20:05] <cgregan> matsubara: Thanks...I see my answer!
[21:50] <ubotu> New bug: #206211 in meta-lp-deps "Include BeautifulSoup in the developer packages" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/206211
[22:20] <ubotu> New bug: #206231 in launchpad "Launchpad Suite hompage refers to Ubuntu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/206231
[22:22] <HappyCamp_> matsubara, ping
[22:22] <matsubara> HappyCamp_, hi
[22:22] <HappyCamp_> I see fix committed for https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/196253
[22:22] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 196253 in launchpad "OOPS importing pgp key" [High,Fix committed]  - Assigned to Diogo Matsubara (matsubara)
[22:22] <HappyCamp_> Does that mean it is in launchpad?  Or have to wait for fix released?
[22:23] <matsubara> HappyCamp_, it's on edge.launchpad.net already
[22:23] <kiko> yep!
[22:23] <matsubara> HappyCamp_, it'll be in the regular production launchpad in 2 days
[22:23] <HappyCamp_> Okay, so I should be able to add my PGP key there matsubara 
[22:23] <HappyCamp_> Thanks!
[22:24] <matsubara> HappyCamp_, yep, hopefully it'll work
[22:24] <HappyCamp_> matsubara, I will give it a try on edge.  Thanks again.
[22:24] <matsubara> give it a try and let me know how it goes.
[22:27] <HappyCamp_> matsubara, sweet, it says it is sending me an email :)  So seems to be working.  I will wait for the email now.
[22:29] <matsubara> HappyCamp_, great! :-)
[22:32] <HappyCamp_> matsubara, It worked.  I now have an OpenPGP  key registered.  Thanks.
[22:33] <matsubara> HappyCamp_, you're welcome!
[22:33]  * matsubara goes on update the test plan
[22:33] <kiko> HappyCamp_, rock on!
[23:06] <HappyCamp_> matsubara, one thing.  http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?search=0x1A25D86C&op=index
[23:06] <HappyCamp_> It says that my key is revoked, in reality the other guys key is revoked.
[23:07] <kiko> hah, what a funny bug
[23:08] <HappyCamp_> It kind of sucks, I'm one of the unfortunate people to have a conflict with the short fingerprint.
[23:08] <matsubara> HappyCamp_, where did you get the URL from?
[23:08] <kiko> http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=index&search=0x7ED52D381A25D86C
[23:08] <HappyCamp_> matsubara, from my web page that said PGP keys
[23:08] <HappyCamp_> matsubara, https://launchpad.net/~happycamp
[23:08] <matsubara> because LP now should always use the long fingerprint form now
[23:09] <HappyCamp_> matsubara, Also the same here: https://edge.launchpad.net/~happycamp  short fingerprint
[23:10] <kiko> matsubara, yeah, good catch. though the keyserver seems busted anyway :-(
[23:10] <HappyCamp_> actually the edge one seems to do better
[23:10] <kiko> right
[23:10] <kiko> yeah, it's correct on edge
[23:10] <kiko> however, the keyserver code is on crack it seems
[23:10] <kiko> actually
[23:10] <matsubara> indeed
[23:10] <kiko> this is odd.
[23:10] <HappyCamp_> Though the link still says my key is revoked and I never revoked my key.  But the other person with the same short fingerprint revoked their key.
[23:11] <kiko> HappyCamp_, when I use gpg to fetch your key, using the full keyid, I get Antoine BOURRET listed too.
[23:11] <kiko> wtf?
[23:11] <HappyCamp_> It is weird
[23:11] <kiko> HappyCamp_, can you send me your pubkey through email?
[23:12] <HappyCamp_> The keyserver software or something, doesn't handle short fingerprint key conflicts well.
[23:12] <kiko> it seems to be an odd bug in the keyserver software, but I can't figure it out
[23:12] <kiko> yeah
[23:12] <HappyCamp_> sure I can do that
[23:13] <kiko> HappyCamp_, kiko@canonical.com
[23:15] <HappyCamp_> kiko, http://www.sodarock.com/JohnVillalovos-gpgkey2008.txt
[23:15] <HappyCamp_> Or I can email you
[23:16] <kiko> HappyCamp_, I'll pull from there, thanks
[23:17] <HappyCamp_> kiko, If I did the export wrong, let me know
[23:17] <kiko> HappyCamp_, it works, but it's very strange, the output I get.
[23:17] <kiko> http://pastebin.ubuntu-uk.org/729
[23:18] <kiko> it still says Antoine there
[23:18] <kiko> and it also says your key is revoked
[23:18] <michalski> lol
[23:19] <kiko> HappyCamp_, that means to me something really weird is going on
[23:20] <HappyCamp_> kiko, I accidentally included the other guys key when I did the export.  It was in my keyring.
[23:20] <HappyCamp_> I redid the export
[23:20] <kiko> heh
[23:20] <HappyCamp_> It is a little bit smaller file now
[23:20] <HappyCamp_> kiko, http://www.sodarock.com/JohnVillalovos-gpgkey2008.txt
[23:20] <HappyCamp_> Force a refresh to get it
[23:20] <kiko> HappyCamp_, it still says revoked. 
[23:21] <kiko> http://pastebin.ubuntu-uk.org/730
[23:21] <HappyCamp_> What command are you using?
[23:22] <HappyCamp_> kiko, I put my command into the pastebin
[23:23] <kiko> I just did "gpg foo.txt"
[23:23] <kiko> HappyCamp_, you need to post it to get a new number.
[23:24] <HappyCamp_> kiko, http://pastebin.ubuntu-uk.org/732
[23:25] <HappyCamp_> Hmmm, that is strange
[23:25] <kiko> could it be that because you revoked some of the uids, it's thinking it's revoked?
[23:25] <kiko> that is indeed really weird
[23:25] <kiko> I don't know enough about key revocation but I know lifeless does
[23:28] <fta> how can I change a bug opened against a project/product to a distro/project ?
[23:32] <kiko> fta, show me the bug?
[23:32] <fta> bug 206180
[23:32] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 206180 in prism "Please sponsor prism 0.8+svn20071115r8030-0ubuntu3" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/206180
[23:32] <fta> i have the two now :(
[23:33] <fta> also bug 205782
[23:33] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 205782 in prism "Window icon shoud  be site favicon" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/205782
[23:33] <fta> and bug 203477 has nothing to do with Prism at all
[23:33] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 203477 in linux-wlan-ng "[hardy] 2WIRE Wireless USB Dongle (prism based) does not work in Ubuntu " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/203477
[23:35] <fta> kiko ^^
[23:36] <kiko> fta, what do you want to do to each of those bugs?
[23:37] <fta> have the first two only in ubuntu/prism (not plain Prim) and i'm not sure about the 3rd one
[23:38] <fta> before someone crated 203477, all bugs went to ubuntu/prism, now people (me included) moved to Prism
[23:38] <fta> created
[23:39] <HappyCamp_> kiko, I am going to ask on the GPG list,  thanks for the help.
[23:40] <kiko> fta, why should the first two not be on Prism?
[23:41] <kiko> HappyCamp_, hope I helped!
[23:42] <fta> kiko, well, they are not listed with the others
[23:43] <kiko> fta, I didn't understand your answer (sorry)
[23:43] <fta> and the sponsor one was not listed in the sponsor todo list until i added ubuntu/prism
[23:44] <kiko> fta, well, one thing i can answer immediately: to add an ubuntu task, use the link "Also affects: distribution"
[23:44] <fta> that's what i've done
[23:44] <fta> there's no way to remove the other entry?
[23:45] <kiko> fta, you mark it invalid, but the true question is, should you?
[23:45] <kiko> is there no upstream prism-driver project?
[23:45] <Rinchen> HappyCamp_, have you tried to push an update to keyserver.ubuntu.com today?
[23:45] <fta> kiko, yes, there is
[23:47] <fta> kiko, nm, i'll live with it.
[23:48] <kiko> fta, because if so, we could just mutate Prism to be that project, and use that to track upstream issues.
[23:48] <HappyCamp_> Rinchen, it went in today for the first time.
[23:48] <Rinchen> HappyCamp_, hmm that's interesting.
[23:49] <kiko> yeah, really weird
[23:49] <kiko> like /really/ weird
[23:49] <fta> kiko, no, upstream is mozilla so it is using bugzilla like firefox and friends
[23:49] <fta> i just want packaging bugs grouped together
[23:50] <kiko> fta, oh, prism is a mozilla project?
[23:50] <fta> yes
[23:51] <kiko> fta, I am clueless. sorry! the reincarnation of webrunner!
[23:51] <fta> kiko, correct :)
[23:51] <kiko> fta, so yes, the answer is that the first and third bug you posted should be marked invalid
[23:52] <kiko> fta, the second bug might be an upstream issue -- do you know if it isn't?
[23:53] <kiko> wow, that is a cool little project
[23:53] <fta> kiko, the 2nd is a whish, which occurs to be implemented upstream but it's too late for hardy
[23:53] <fta> wish
[23:53] <kiko> fta, was there a bug number upstream for it?
[23:54] <fta> yes, hold on
[23:56] <kiko> fta, I'm going to mark that project as using bugzilla.mozilla.org then
[23:56] <fta> ok
[23:58] <mpt> Gooooooooooooood afternoon Launchpadders!
[23:58] <fta> kiko: mozilla bug 400164
[23:59] <ubotu> Mozilla bug 400164 in Prism "WebRunner to use favicons if no icon is specified" [Enhancement,Resolved: fixed] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=400164 - Assigned to matthew@allpeers.com
[23:59] <kiko> fta, cool.
[23:59] <kiko> fta, do you know if prism is triple-licensed as usual?
[23:59] <fta> kiko: it is
[23:59] <kiko> cool.