| psyke83 | _MMA_, I just sent the latest revision of the theme, although the "rename file" fix isn't done yet | 02:50 |
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| _MMA_ | psyke83: ok. Ill most likely look over it tomorrow. | 02:51 |
| psyke83 | sure thing | 02:51 |
| _MMA_ | psyke83: I looked now. :P So besides the metacity/scrollbar fix, that's it? | 02:58 |
| psyke83 | I think so; did I fix any other bugs today? :P | 02:59 |
| psyke83 | I'm sleepy now, so I forget... heh | 02:59 |
| psyke83 | I only changed the spacing in the metacity-1.xml file, nothing else | 03:00 |
| psyke83 | and yep, I think I changed just the progressbar and slider background | 03:00 |
| _MMA_ | Ok. Tomorrow we should work out the white text when renaming files. | 03:00 |
| _MMA_ | But you should sleep. I will be soon. :P | 03:00 |
| psyke83 | I will, just waiting for a scan to finish on my hd before I turn off (problem with SMART) | 03:01 |
| _MMA_ | Ahh... | 03:01 |
| psyke83 | if you catch MacSlow, see if he can help re: the nautilus bug; I tried the gnome, gtk and nautilus channels (here and on irc.gnome.org), and nobody answered | 03:02 |
| psyke83 | I downloaded the source code and found two glade files, but they don't cover the renaming part of the interface | 03:02 |
| _MMA_ | Ok. Ill try to get him in here tomorrow to talk directly. | 03:04 |
| nothlit`core | grrr, someone deleted the template attachments about a week ago | 12:39 |
| _MMA_ | psyke83: Found another "white text bug". Edit the prefs on FF3. You'll see it. | 14:23 |
| _MMA_ | nothlit`core: Since you seemed to have dropped off over this cycle I plan on taking things as far as wiki management for Ibex. I however did not mess with the templates. | 14:32 |
| psyke83 | _MMA_, change the input background colour to #888888 and see what you think | 14:33 |
| psyke83 | it introduces other problems, though, e.g. grey users listed in xchat | 14:33 |
| _MMA_ | People are gonna hate that. | 14:34 |
| nothlit`core | _MMA_: ahh ok, if you see anything missing, just ping me :) | 14:35 |
| psyke83 | _MMA_, well, I'm really afraid that the Firefox problem is hardcoded | 14:35 |
| _MMA_ | Sure. We might need to go back to the gray text. | 14:35 |
| psyke83 | _MMA_, it's possible to set grey text for everything, but then make exceptions, such as button, combobox, tab and frame colours | 14:36 |
| psyke83 | I mean, such as the above being white | 14:37 |
| psyke83 | we can use the shade function within those sections | 14:37 |
| psyke83 | will I give it a try and see how it works? | 14:37 |
| _MMA_ | psyke83: Sure. If you can work on that, that would be great. | 14:37 |
| nothlit`core | ackt, thats ibex lol, i haven't fleshed out the FAQ yes, but the wiki is pretty set up, have i been lacking in my duties? | 14:38 |
| _MMA_ | I'm trying to work out a xsane issue right now as well. People can't use their scanner as normal users. | 14:38 |
| nothlit`core | well the first user gets added the the correct groups, but additional users you have to make sure to do that-- or is it just broken? | 14:39 |
| _MMA_ | nothlit`core: Its just broke somehow. sudo xsane works though. | 14:40 |
| _MMA_ | bug 205496 | 14:40 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 205496 in xsane "[Hardy]Xsane needs root to operate scanner" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/205496 | 14:40 |
| _MMA_ | nothlit`core: I haven't really seen you active in here on on the ML for some time. I think Ken needs someone a little more active throughout the cycle. | 14:45 |
| _MMA_ | nothlit`core: I still think the wiki needs a major overhaul. I can never figure out where things are. | 14:48 |
| nothlit`core | ahh, interesting | 14:56 |
| nothlit`core | The bar is not enough? | 14:58 |
| _MMA_ | nothlit`core: SO at UDS I'll be talking with Ken to see how it can be better structured. It really just might be something that's too complex. | 14:58 |
| nothlit`core | well i may be going to uds as well, so we can probably lay things out there | 14:58 |
| _MMA_ | nothlit`core: Personally, the bar makes no sense. I dont know how it relates to where Im at or things are half the time. | 14:59 |
| _MMA_ | Sure. That would be cool. | 14:59 |
| psyke83 | _MMA_, I'm getting close to fixing the Firefox prob | 15:28 |
| psyke83 | it's a pain in the a$$, I have to edit the theme and put wildcard matches for widgets ;) | 15:29 |
| psyke83 | I know the widget is Gtk*View, heh | 15:30 |
| psyke83 | any sign of macslow? | 15:31 |
| _MMA_ | psyke83: Oh sorry. Ill see if he can come in. | 15:37 |
| _MMA_ | psyke83: Looks like he's swamped working on Compiz. Next week might be more free. | 15:40 |
| psyke83 | no prob... I found the name of the widget for Firefox, working on the fix now | 15:41 |
| _MMA_ | k | 15:42 |
| _MMA_ | Maybe that will fix gnome-control-center as well. :) | 15:42 |
| psyke83 | _MMA_, I'm a bit stuck. I know the widget that draws the affected background of the firefox Preferences, but not the part that renders text | 16:32 |
| _MMA_ | Weird. | 16:33 |
| psyke83 | _MMA_, I've found where to fix, but it will cause all the text in firefox to change to the text colour we define... do you want it grey? | 17:21 |
| _MMA_ | psyke83: Hmm... I imaging that will be problematic. Can you test different scenarios and get back to me? | 17:23 |
| psyke83 | I've been encouraged to file a bug against Firefox, so it will get fixed there (eventually) | 17:23 |
| psyke83 | it's using GtkInvisible, which is nonstandard | 17:23 |
| _MMA_ | Yeah. Bastards. :P | 17:23 |
| psyke83 | this one may take a firefox patch, from us or upstream | 17:24 |
| psyke83 | what's the problem with gnome-control-center ? | 17:24 |
| _MMA_ | Basically the same deal. | 17:24 |
| _MMA_ | WHite text on white background. | 17:25 |
| psyke83 | hmm on gutsy? | 17:25 |
| _MMA_ | Yep | 17:25 |
| psyke83 | because I see no problem here | 17:25 |
| _MMA_ | ? | 17:25 |
| psyke83 | I'm running Hardy | 17:25 |
| _MMA_ | With you new mods correct? | 17:25 |
| psyke83 | yep, although it's temporarily screwed while I'm debugging the issue | 17:26 |
| _MMA_ | Well wait. Click on a cestion or a icon. | 17:26 |
| _MMA_ | *section | 17:26 |
| psyke83 | hold on while I restore the theme to working order | 17:26 |
| _MMA_ | Or switch the theme to see. | 17:26 |
| _MMA_ | np | 17:26 |
| psyke83 | _MMA_, no, there's no problem on my system | 17:28 |
| psyke83 | it's obeying the proper theme colours | 17:29 |
| psyke83 | do you have a hardy install available? | 17:29 |
| _MMA_ | Yeah. Im looking at it. Might be because of some new mod you did. | 17:29 |
| _MMA_ | I get a screen with lots of icons but invisible text. | 17:30 |
| psyke83 | I don't think that I fixed any bugs there | 17:30 |
| _MMA_ | Until you highlight a section that it. | 17:30 |
| _MMA_ | gnome-contol-center right? | 17:31 |
| _MMA_ | gnome-control-center | 17:31 |
| _MMA_ | Take a screenshot if you can. | 17:31 |
| psyke83 | ah, right :( | 17:32 |
| psyke83 | sorry, I missed that | 17:32 |
| psyke83 | hmm | 17:32 |
| psyke83 | _MMA_, unless I can get the gnome-control-center issue fixed, I think it's better we go back to grey text ;) | 17:40 |
| psyke83 | as for the firefox issue, whatever we change the colour to, almost the entire interface will change as well | 17:40 |
| psyke83 | it's definitely a bug | 17:41 |
| _MMA_ | psyke83: Well If we can keep the "revert to gray text" thing on the back burner and find a solution that would rock. In the end I'm not against reverting. | 17:49 |
| _MMA_ | We have all week until I have to push these changes so we have a little bit of time. | 17:50 |
| psyke83 | _MMA_, bear with me: change the input box background to #BFBFBF and give it ten minutes of use, then tell me what you think | 18:36 |
| psyke83 | keep normal text to white | 18:36 |
| psyke83 | the only problem is green text in terminals... gah, this is difficult ;) | 18:38 |
| _MMA_ | psyke83: Ill test what you send me. I just cant tinker now. I'm on the phone with the insurance co about my car. | 18:40 |
| psyke83 | ah I won't disturb, don't worry. I'll try to sort out gnome-control-center, we just need to fix that and firefox | 18:41 |
| _MMA_ | No disturbance. I'm sorry I can't give it my full attention ATM. | 18:41 |
| psyke83 | aptoncd uses hardcoded foreground colours, I will make a bug report with patch to launchpad | 18:48 |
| _MMA_ | k | 18:49 |
| psyke83 | firefox3 workaround: http://connogriofa.googlepages.com/gtkrc | 19:02 |
| _MMA_ | psyke83: And what does it affect if we try to set it to black? | 19:04 |
| psyke83 | in firefox: the bookmarks toolbar, find bar, status bar, all preferences text, inactive menu items | 19:05 |
| psyke83 | as for other apps, it doesn't affect anything | 19:05 |
| psyke83 | basically most of the firefox interface is using gtkinvisible to draw text, which is just wrong | 19:06 |
| _MMA_ | Ahh..... I see. Well, this is fine to me for know. Let's work with this for know. See how it feels. | 19:06 |
| psyke83 | yep | 19:07 |
| _MMA_ | s/know/now | 19:07 |
| psyke83 | _MMA_, gnome-control-center is fixed, but the previous issue with gconf-editor's "Name" is back | 19:47 |
| psyke83 | the problem was with the hack I wanted MacSlow to check | 19:47 |
| _MMA_ | psyke83: Ok. Put it in, but comment it out with some notes so we can talk with him later about it. | 19:48 |
| psyke83 | it changes a lot of other things, let me work on it some more | 19:49 |
| _MMA_ | np | 19:50 |
| psyke83 | _MMA_, it's fixed; a terrible hack, but fixed | 21:10 |
| _MMA_ | Cool. | 21:12 |
| psyke83 | _MMA_, http://connogriofa.googlepages.com/gtkrc | 21:14 |
| _MMA_ | psyke83: Can you send the meta city again? I think I messed something up here. | 21:15 |
| _MMA_ | *metacity | 21:15 |
| Cimi | ehich bug? | 21:15 |
| Cimi | *which | 21:15 |
| psyke83 | http://connogriofa.googlepages.com/metacity-theme-1.xml | 21:16 |
| _MMA_ | Cimi: Something about how FF3 used GTK. | 21:16 |
| Cimi | which kind of bug you get? | 21:16 |
| _MMA_ | psyke83: Thanx. Ill test now. | 21:16 |
| psyke83 | cimi: we're working around some bugs in applications that display white text on white background with our UbuntuStudio-Mod theme | 21:17 |
| psyke83 | oops, he's gone | 21:18 |
| psyke83 | ah wb | 21:18 |
| psyke83 | cimi: we're working around some bugs in applications that display white text on white background with our UbuntuStudio-Mod theme | 21:18 |
| _MMA_ | Cimi: Looks like they are using gtkinvisible to draw text. | 21:18 |
| Cimi | one shit application is rhythmbox | 21:19 |
| Cimi | it has hardcoded colors for the sidebar | 21:19 |
| _MMA_ | Thats mostly what we're running into. Apps that hardcode colors rather than using the gtkrc. | 21:20 |
| * Cimi hates them | 21:20 | |
| Cimi | gimp for example | 21:20 |
| Cimi | is hardcoding focus for the buttons | 21:21 |
| _MMA_ | AptOnCD is another. | 21:21 |
| psyke83 | Cimi, can you help me out a little? I need to define exceptions for certain widgets, but I don't know the name | 21:22 |
| Cimi | psyke83, experience engine can help you | 21:22 |
| Cimi | from what I know | 21:22 |
| psyke83 | for example, I want to define an exception for the fg[NORMAL] of "Name, Size, Type" in Nautilus and other applications | 21:23 |
| Cimi | benzea implemented a function to print the widget namings | 21:23 |
| _MMA_ | psyke83: Cool. Though this isn't the optimal solution we can now at least see the text in FF3 and gnome-control-center. | 21:23 |
| Cimi | but the best solution is to open bugreports | 21:23 |
| psyke83 | _MMA_, I've broken the "expander arrows" again, but I will fix soon | 21:23 |
| _MMA_ | psyke83: Ahh.. I see. Ok. Keep up the killer work. Thanx so far. :) | 21:24 |
| * _MMA_ goes back to looking at new cars. | 21:24 | |
| psyke83 | _MMA_, http://connogriofa.googlepages.com/gtkrc | 21:28 |
| psyke83 | that fixes the expander arrows | 21:28 |
| psyke83 | I think I'll call it quits tonight, lest I go completely insane :) | 21:31 |
| psyke83 | but this needs a lot of testing and refinement (I used wildcard matches to isolate the special case classes; we need to identify them properly) | 21:31 |
| psyke83 | Cimi, would you by any chance be able to guess what this is? widget_class "*x*ent*.*men*Label*" | 21:33 |
| Cimi | ? | 21:33 |
| Cimi | the only thing I'm sure | 21:33 |
| psyke83 | I'm trying to identify the class for drawing the items in the main window of gnome-control-center, to create a special case | 21:33 |
| Cimi | is that it is really ugly | 21:34 |
| psyke83 | yes it's awful, and I want to fix it, but I can only do it through trial and error | 21:34 |
| _MMA_ | Well that was helpfull. | 21:34 |
| Cimi | maybe the best way to do is opening control center source code and read something? :) don't you think? | 21:34 |
| psyke83 | Cimi, yes, but I'm not an expert at reading source for gtk stuff, and there's no glade files to help | 21:35 |
| Cimi | you should learn | 21:35 |
| psyke83 | ... ok, thanks | 21:36 |
| _MMA_ | Cimi: Really, it was a simple question. People also learn this way. | 21:36 |
| _MMA_ | No need to RTFM. | 21:37 |
| Cimi | _MMA_, to help him, I need to RTFM | 21:37 |
| Cimi | I don't know the source code of every application | 21:37 |
| psyke83 | Cimi, if that's necessary, then it's ok. I thought you could guess visually, since you're aware of the common gtk widgets | 21:37 |
| _MMA_ | Cimi: Well not in here. That's not how we do things. We have poked through code. Do not RTFM in here. | 21:38 |
| _MMA_ | Cimi: I do realize that some of it is a language barrier but one could make the argument that "you should learn" English better just as easy as someone should learn how to better read code. | 21:41 |
| Cimi | unfortunately | 21:42 |
| psyke83 | no it's alright, guys. I just wondered if Cimi could spot the possible class name from looking at the interface, not the code, but it's fine | 21:42 |
| Cimi | I haven't got an english teacher at school, at least he was not doing her job of teaching students the language | 21:42 |
| Cimi | everything I know I've learnt from myself | 21:43 |
| psyke83 | I'm checking all the apps installed by default, and I'm not seeing any problems yet, but I hope to clean up the theme properly | 21:43 |
| Cimi | psyke83, I have to look at the code | 21:43 |
| psyke83 | Cimi, yep, and I don't want you to go to a lot of trouble, so it's fine | 21:43 |
| Cimi | or printing the widget class trough the engine | 21:43 |
| psyke83 | now that sounds more interesting ;) | 21:43 |
| Cimi | psyke83, I've already said it | 21:44 |
| Cimi | <Cimi> psyke83, experience engine can help you | 21:44 |
| Cimi | <Cimi> from what I know | 21:44 |
| psyke83 | experience engine, I'll take a look | 21:44 |
| _MMA_ | psyke83: Gah. Now we have a issue with Deluge torrent. Looks like the expander arrow fix is #525252. Or something like that? | 21:50 |
| psyke83 | _MMA_, I'm not finding any expander arrows, do you have a lot of torrents in your list or something? | 21:51 |
| _MMA_ | No. The issue is the text in the "status" column. | 21:52 |
| _MMA_ | The bg is the same color as the text that says "Downloading". | 21:52 |
| _MMA_ | Wait.. Hahaha. | 21:52 |
| _MMA_ | 1 sec. | 21:52 |
| psyke83 | I see | 21:53 |
| psyke83 | was it like that before? | 21:53 |
| _MMA_ | psyke83: Ill get a shot. | 21:53 |
| _MMA_ | I dont think so. | 21:53 |
| psyke83 | I see it | 21:53 |
| psyke83 | I have bad news... the original UbuntuStudio theme is the same | 21:54 |
| psyke83 | hmm no, can u take a screenshot please? | 21:54 |
| _MMA_ | Im looking at it now. Its not. The color before and after the progressbar is different. | 21:55 |
| _MMA_ | Ill take 2. | 21:55 |
| _MMA_ | http://mma.users.ubuntustudio.org/OG.png | 21:58 |
| _MMA_ | http://mma.users.ubuntustudio.org/MOD.png | 21:58 |
| _MMA_ | psyke83: ^^^ | 21:59 |
| psyke83 | ok, let me check this out, although it should be an easy fix | 21:59 |
| psyke83 | *should be* ;) | 21:59 |
| _MMA_ | :P | 22:00 |
| Cimi | psyke83, EXPERIENCE_PRINT_WIDGET_PATH=true | 22:02 |
| psyke83 | Cimi, thanks; I compiled and installed the engine and an experience theme, but it's not working. I'll try it tomorrow | 22:02 |
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