askandCan someone please assign bug 196021 ?00:29
ubotuLaunchpad bug 196021 in bash "include bash-completion by default in hardy" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/19602100:29
ScottK3To whom do you think it should be assigned?00:30
=== ScottK3 is now known as ScottK2
ScottK2askand: ^^^00:30
askandScottK2: Good question..I'm not very good at this.. everything I know is that it would be good if this bug was solved and that is always easier if it is assigned to the right people :)00:32
ScottK2askand: I can understand that feeling, but unless you are someone's boss, assigning them work is generally considered rude.  There are lots of bugs it would be 'good' to solve, but we have more bugs than we have developers.  This is unless a team has a policy about assignments (Kernel team has such a policy, but that's not applicable to this bug).00:45
askandScottK2: I see :) Yea I kind of hoped someone else was rude enough ;)00:47
JohnPhy1is there any talk of delaying hardy in the way dapper was delayed?  there seem to be quite a few bugs left to work out/solve.00:52
ScottK2askand: That sort of rudeness is actually a pretty good way to ensure a bug won't get fixed.00:55
secretlondondoes anyone know the bug number for today's lang pack bug?00:55
greg-gsecretlondon: bug 20544000:56
ubotuLaunchpad bug 205440 in language-pack-en "package language-pack-en 1:8.04+20080308 failed to install/upgrade: Versuche, »/usr/share/locale-langpack/en_GB/LC_MESSAGES/shared-mime-info.mo« zu überschreiben, welches auch in Paket language-pack-gnome-en ist" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20544000:57
greg-gand go for it, I already had like 5 of them today :)00:57
* secretlondon thanks greg_g00:58
=== wolfger_ is now known as wolfger
secretlondon21 dupes!01:00
greg-gin 17 hours01:02
secretlondonso not that bad01:04
secretlondonprob because it's easter01:04
greg-gyeah, comparatively speaking I suppose.  I was waiting for more since the beta is out and it brings in everyone01:04
greg-ggood point01:04
greg-gone more01:06
secretlondonyou beat me to it!01:07
secretlondonI got the chinese one though ;)01:07
greg-gI need to ask dholbach about the teams thing in the 5-a-day stats.  some people listed two teams after their name, and one person listed themselves twice but with two different teams.  I know that the first case doesn't work (only the first is recognized, at least for me) but I'm wondering if he wants to support this feature or not.01:09
JohnPhy1Is anyone in here having issues iwth how fonts are rendered on an lcd in gnome terminal or qt apps in hardy?01:10
greg-gsorry, that was an out-of-nowhere comment01:10
JohnPhy1specifically, they don't seem to follow the sub-pixel hinting rules set through System -> Preferences -> Appearance -> Fonts, but other apps (such as gedit, pidgin) do.01:11
* secretlondon missed the teams thing01:13
greg-gJohnPhy1: sorry, not on my hardy install right now01:14
greg-gsecretlondon: yeah, it wasn't announced really, I just noticed the .teams file, and the the stats page now has the teams at the bottom01:14
secretlondonso I should join a team?01:14
wolfgerif you're in a LoCo, represent. :-)01:16
wolfgernothing like a little good-natured rivalry to keep people working hard01:16
secretlondoni'm not in a loco01:16
wolfgerfind or create a team, then01:17
JohnPhy1greg-g:  Thanks anyway.  I was able to force the correct rendering with a ~/.fonts.conf file, and tried helping out and commenting on bug #190848 , but it didn't seem to help everyone.01:17
wolfgerTeam Unaffiliated. :-)01:17
ubotuLaunchpad bug 190848 in gnome-terminal "font in terminal does not resemble font in preview" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/19084801:17
greg-gJohnPhy1: gotcha.01:17
secretlondonI don't feel any great need to fly the flag01:23
secretlondonand I'm not sure splitting bug triagers into national teams (rather than say product teams) is helpful01:24
greg-gsecretlondon: I hope it doesn't seem like splitting the triagers up, more of a way for locos to have friendly competition01:25
greg-gI mean, I was waiting for something to poke the ubuntu-ohio team to try and get some border state competition01:25
secretlondonwell it depends if you are in a loco or not, I left the uk team after sexist crap a few years ago01:25
=== jacobmp92 is now known as jacob
greg-gugh, sorry01:26
greg-gI had no idea01:26
secretlondonno prob01:26
secretlondoni've only recently got back involved in ubuntu again for hardy, I dropped out for ages01:26
secretlondonloads of women have had issues in loco teams, they tend to be more 'matey' and less technical01:27
greg-gyeah, I guess unfortunately that is how -michigan is right now.  it is more of a social group with some techie stuff every now and then.01:28
wolfgerI don't see that as a bad thing, though01:28
wolfgersocial ties are important to holding a group together01:28
secretlondonhigher entrance requirement = less jerks01:28
secretlondonand exclude those as people want to socialise away from their wives etc01:29
greg-gwolfger: I agree on that point too.  We just need to make sure we continue to be welcoming01:29
secretlondonmy lug is fine, my loco - no way01:31
secretlondonbut then my lug is a bit technical01:31
greg-gI kinda had opposite experiences with the groups here.  but of course I think highly of the loco ;)01:31
secretlondoni think it depends on who is leading it, and whether they clamp down on non CoC behaviour01:32
secretlondonthe leader of the loco mocked me, or so it felt like01:32
greg-gthat would be me01:32
greg-goh, that is horrible!01:32
secretlondon(not that they ever did anything tbh)01:32
secretlondonthey were all middle aged small businessmen escaping with their toys away from their wives and families01:33
secretlondonclosed space bonding through sexist humour01:33
greg-gI wouldn't be a part of that group either01:33
secretlondoni may be over exagerating, I felt very excluded01:34
secretlondonand i'm not a conservative and they all seemed to be01:34
secretlondonand generally it wasn't fun01:34
greg-gwell, if they weren't welcoming then they pretty much just failed, no question01:34
secretlondonbut they didn't actually *do* anything!01:34
secretlondonthey didn't build ubuntu in the uk, and they weren01:35
secretlondonweren't obviously doing anything in ubuntu 9with a few exceptions)01:35
secretlondonJono was crap too, someone I have zero respect for01:36
* secretlondon whinges01:36
secretlondonit felt like this is how ubuntu really is, if you strip away the marketing01:36
greg-ga boy's club?01:37
secretlondonwell that it was all for show, that behind the facade ubuntu was more hostile to minorities than a normal tech space01:40
secretlondonso i got involved upstream :)01:40
greg-gthere ya go01:40
secretlondonI came back to hardy as I wanted hardy not to suck, as the versions post hardy didn't work as well as dapper 9and I still use dapper on my desktop because of this)01:41
secretlondonI don't deal with social conservatives at the best of times, and certainly not in a voluntary capacity in my own time01:41
greg-ghaha, I hear ya01:42
secretlondonupstream is cool, and lug is cool01:42
secretlondonwhether I continue with this after hardy is released I dunno01:42
greg-gwhat upstream?01:42
secretlondonI may end up doing gsoc mentoring01:42
secretlondonI'm involved in tuxpaint01:43
greg-gright on01:43
secretlondonwe got google summer of code funding01:43
secretlondonbut we dunno how many places yet01:43
secretlondonis it worth allocating firefox 3 bugs from firefox package to firefox 3 package?02:11
JohnPhy1anyone have any idea why plugging in a wireless mouse would cause intermittent audio issues in mplayer, but not in totem?02:37
secretlondonit sounds unconnected tbh. I can't see an obvious connection02:39
secretlondontotem and mplayer could be using different audio backends, or the mouse could be causing problems with cpu usage or memory which could affect audio play02:40
JohnPhy1yeah, I thought it was unconnected at first too, which is why it took me over a week to track it down.02:40
JohnPhy1I have watched the first 30 minutes of "casino royale" so many times trying to troubleshoot this!02:40
secretlondonhave you tried with non video?02:41
secretlondonas video obviously used more resources02:41
JohnPhy1yeah, mp3's in listen seemed to have slight skips every once in a while as well, but not as severe as mplayer02:41
JohnPhy1in mplayer it was a giant drop02:41
secretlondonmplayer and totem can both play audio02:41
JohnPhy1funny thing is, I don't observe this issue in my laptop02:41
catterlysecretlondon: regarding firefox -> firefox-3.0, that is a good question, I wish I knew the answer as well02:41
JohnPhy1only desktop02:42
secretlondonit could be a lack of ram02:42
secretlondonI dunno02:42
JohnPhy1.......maybe.......but it occurs even if it's the first thing I do, and I have a gig of ram02:42
JohnPhy1I'm just looking for ideas, as I'm fresh out02:42
JohnPhy1do you know what audio backend totem uses?02:43
JohnPhy1mplayer uses alsa on my setup, I know02:43
secretlondonJohnPhy1, there is a script you can run on the wiki to help debug audio errors02:43
secretlondonJohnPhy1, it can use gstreamer or xine02:43
secretlondonmany people use totem -xine as it has better support for dvd menus02:44
secretlondonit'll all use alsa I expect, but hardy has pulse audio too just to add to the mix02:44
secretlondonaudio is a mess ;02:44
catterlyhaha, isn't Pulse supposed to clean it all up?02:45
JohnPhy1lol I've noticed.  The issue occurs in gutsy and hardy02:45
JohnPhy1secretlondon, can you give me the link to that script?02:45
secretlondonJohnPhy1, I'll have a look02:45
secretlondonJohnPhy1, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems02:46
secretlondonbut you could have a bug in mplayer..02:47
JohnPhy1well, skips in the audio occurred in listen as well.....can't remember if they also occurred in xmms02:48
JohnPhy1and it only happens when I plug in that mouse02:48
JohnPhy1but only on my desktop, not my laptop02:48
JohnPhy1my mind melted while working on this for a week or so02:48
JohnPhy1secretlondon:  thanks for the info02:55
secretlondoncould be kernel, could be anything..02:55
* secretlondon scrapes up your mind02:55
JohnPhy1lol thanks02:55
JohnPhy1secretlondon:  yeah, my only educated guess is either something with a different sound backend, or some goofy conflict between the modules that get loaded for this and my motherboard's chipset (since I cannot reproduce the bug on my laptop with a different chipset).  That, or just a hardware problem.02:56
secretlondoni'm guessing that playing video is resource hungry and a lack of resources is demonstrating itself as audio skipping02:58
secretlondonI suspect that mplayer is heavier than totem, and that video stresses your system more02:58
secretlondonthis is why you don't really get it when you play aduio without video02:59
secretlondonoh - are you playing from a dvd drive or from a rip?02:59
secretlondonthat could be another factor ;)02:59
JohnPhy1secretlondon:  yeah, I thought so too, but I didn't see anything obvious in the system monitor.  For a while it looked like there were spikes in network activity during the skips, but that wasn't always the case.  Then again, it's probably something not obvious.  Interestingly enough, it all occurred from rips (xvids and such).  DVD's didn't seem to be affected, though I don't think I went back and double checked.03:00
secretlondonit could be at the xine/gstreamer level, not as far up as alsa03:01
secretlondoni'll see what backend mplayer uses03:02
JohnPhy1the audio driver is alsa, I believe, not sure if that's the same thing as the "backend"03:02
secretlondonI think it actually uses it's own, although it depends on arts03:03
* secretlondon isn't sure03:04
secretlondontotem by default uses gstreamer, but can use xine03:04
secretlondonand xine is still better for dvd menus afaik03:04
* secretlondon is probbaly horribly confused03:05
JohnPhy1yeah, I just use the xine-ui for playing dvd's most of the time03:05
JohnPhy1I really don't like the totem interface03:05
secretlondonah so you are running totem xine?03:05
JohnPhy1I don't think so, is there a way I could check?03:05
JohnPhy1totem-xine is not installed03:06
secretlondonyou'll either have totem-xine or totem-gstreamer installed03:06
JohnPhy1yeah, I've got totem-gstreamer03:06
JohnPhy1I got used to xine-ui back when I used fluxbox on debian, haven't found anything I like better03:06
secretlondonyou may get a better feature set from running totem xine03:07
JohnPhy1....never thought about that03:07
calcer i noticed a bug but don't know what to file it against03:08
JohnPhy1I just never liked what I saw in the preferences, too little options03:08
secretlondoncalc: bug number?03:08
JohnPhy1I don't want like, kde level options, but a few more are nice03:08
calcit might happen in ubuntu as well as kubuntu but in kubuntu if you select install instead of boot it leaves the minimize button active03:09
calcso you can press it and then lose the installer03:09
calcsecretlondon: haven't filed the bug yet03:09
calcit might belong to ubiquity but i don't know for certain03:09
secretlondoncalc: if it's the live cd installer then I'd file under ubiquity03:10
secretlondonif it is in the wrong place they can move (as they know the area the best)03:10
calcsecretlondon: its the installer on the desktop cd but if you select install instead of try out03:10
secretlondoncalc: ubiquity then03:11
juaniv_ahow are you?03:17
secretlondoni'm ok03:18
JohnPhy1secretlondon:  well I think I'll try "debugging" that issue some more by watching T2 DVD in mplayer :)03:21
juaniv_ai have a problem with firefox03:22
juaniv_ain hardy heron beta03:22
juaniv_ait start as work offline03:23
juaniv_ait starts as work offline03:23
juaniv_ai search for this bug at launchpad03:23
juaniv_aand it says that as the netkwork managers seems disconnected firefox takes this with dbus03:24
juaniv_abut i'm connected with pppoe03:24
secretlondonjuaniv_a, known bug03:28
secretlondonI habe the same connecting with wvdial03:28
juaniv_ais there a way to fix it ?03:29
secretlondonI set up a serial connection in network manager which (although it doesn't work) makes nm think i'm online all the time and have manual network configuration03:30
secretlondonnow its gone away (for me)03:30
secretlondonit's an nm bug tbh, evolution affected to, and epiphany03:30
catterlyHaha I really love all these, 'xxx stops working after resume from suspend' bugs in ubuntu-bugs-announce03:32
catterlyI want to respond to all of them saying "Welcome to Ubuntu!" but that doesn't seem very positive or welcoming at all03:33
secretlondonthey are acpi bugs probably03:33
secretlondonoh the main bug for the lang pack bug is #20544003:44
secretlondonoh the main bug for the lang pack bug is bug #20544003:45
ubotuLaunchpad bug 205440 in language-pack-en "package language-pack-en 1:8.04+20080308 failed to install/upgrade: Versuche, »/usr/share/locale-langpack/en_GB/LC_MESSAGES/shared-mime-info.mo« zu überschreiben, welches auch in Paket language-pack-gnome-en ist" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20544003:45
greg-gsecretlondon: isn't that what I gave you before?03:46
secretlondonbut new people are in channel03:47
greg-gahh, ok, just making sure03:47
secretlondonideally we'd add to /topic03:47
greg-gI've had a lot of tabs with that bug or duplicate open today, so couldn't copied the wrong one03:47
greg-gthat isn't a bad idea "Dupe-Of-The-Day: 205440"03:48
* secretlondon wonders what "select release series" means03:50
greg-gnot sure, all I know is it is time for bed..03:54
JohnPhy1secretlondon:  that audio bug occurs when watching dvd's with mplayer03:55
FujitsuCan anybody make sense of bug #205866?06:16
ubotuLaunchpad bug 205866 in galculator "[Hardy+PPA]:Cannot launch galculator from home screen, but can launch it from console, it doesn't hildonlized" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20586606:16
Fujitsumenlow-lpia-ubuntu-hardy-ppa? Riight.06:16
secretlondonFujitsu, it's presumably something to do with the mobile desktop06:23
secretlondonthe rest of it, including where they got the package from I have *no* idea06:24
FujitsuFrom the Hildon references I presume so... but there's no LP user named menlow, and we at any rate don't support PPA packages.06:24
secretlondonhas lpia mention too, I read it as icon doesn't work, but program does run from the console06:27
secretlondonthey originally wrote "Ubuntu HardyPPA image"06:28
secretlondonI wonder if they actually mean ppa06:28
FujitsuHildon is for mobile devices, so LPIA is pretty much implied... But the PPA bit has me mystified.06:28
secretlondonmaybe lpia=ppa06:28
FujitsuMenlow is one of Intel's mobile platforms.06:29
secretlondonor mbe (or whatever initials we use for mobile)06:29
FujitsuSo it's a valid bug.06:29
FujitsuThat image has been referred to by people in #ubuntu-mobile, so it must be real.06:30
secretlondonah ok06:30
bbrazilhow do I mark a bug as affecting hardy?09:26
=== RAOF_ is now known as RAOF
secretlondon2 recent submissions of bug #20544010:39
ubotuLaunchpad bug 205440 in language-pack-en "package language-pack-en 1:8.04+20080308 failed to install/upgrade: Versuche, »/usr/share/locale-langpack/en_GB/LC_MESSAGES/shared-mime-info.mo« zu überschreiben, welches auch in Paket language-pack-gnome-en ist" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20544010:39
secretlondonwe'll prob get them all day10:39
secretlondonqense: hi10:39
qenseI'll watch out for them10:40
=== doko_ is now known as doko
=== QbixAway is now known as Qbix
=== dodger_ is now known as Hurtz
=== asac_ is now known as asac
=== never|mobi is now known as neversfelde|mobi
techno_freaksecretlondon leads today's 5-a-day ;)11:22
secretlondonmainly on duplicates ;)11:23
catterly_mso, I am trying to learn about things. Is bug #205728 invalid because it can be updated anyway without the exception?12:55
ubotuLaunchpad bug 205728 in easycrypt "FeatureFreeze Exceptions for easycrypt-" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20572812:55
secretlondoncatterly_m I don't know, it was set as invalid as it is claimed that bugfix releases don't need an exception12:58
secretlondonI don't know if that is true or not12:58
catterly_msecretlondon: and do you know, if a FeatureFreeze Exception was denied, would that be marked 'Won't Fix'?12:59
catterly_mthat is confusing :[12:59
secretlondonas its not a proper bug ;)12:59
secretlondonwon't fix is for bugs that are confirmed but we won't do anything about13:00
catterly_myes I suppose, but to someone looking through they may not be able to tell whether it made it in or not13:00
catterly_moh ok13:00
secretlondonall this stuff is on the wiki somewhere ;)13:02
secretlondonhi Iulian13:03
IulianHeya secretlondon13:03
catterly_moh secretlondon, did you ever get a consensus on if changing ff3 bug packages from firefox to firefox-3.0 was worthwhile?13:07
secretlondonno-one replied13:07
secretlondonit's a public holiday..13:07
pedro_catterly_m: why do yu want to change them?13:09
pedro_we still have firefox on previous releases13:10
secretlondonpedro_ I asked, as there are two packages firefox and firefox 3, and some firefox3 bugs are against firefox13:10
catterly_myeah pedro_ that is the exact point13:11
catterly_mfirefox 2 is still in previous releases so if someone files a bug against ff3 but marks the package as just 'firefox', that might imply firefox 213:12
catterly_mso I was wondering if bugs against ff3 should be marked firefox-3.0 and not firefox13:12
secretlondonIt seems actually to make more sense for firefox3 and firefox to be merged, as we don't have separate packages for other new releases13:13
qenseI agree with that13:14
qensewe don't have gnome2.2013:14
qensebut maybe there should be an option to select the Ubuntu version to make things easier for us and the developers13:14
catterly_mI guess, firefox 3 is radically different from 2, though13:14
catterly_mtrying to find a ff3 bug in ff2 or vice versa would be silly and most likely a waste of time13:15
pedro_qense: indeed having version support on LP would be really nice13:15
qensefirefox is quite different, but there are more packages who change a lot13:18
catterly_myeah, I am just wondering what the best way to manage it is13:18
qenseit is true that it can work confusing, but that also is the case with ubuntu releases13:19
catterly_mif a firefox dev wants to say, what are the bugs ubuntu users are experiencing in the hardy beta, can they do that via distro?13:19
catterly_mor would they need the firefox vs firefox-3.0 distincition13:19
qensesomething else. I sent an email to the bugsquad mailing list, but it hasn't come through the filter since I accidentiatly used my dutch email address. But I think it can be discussed here too.13:21
qensethe idea is too send an email to all upstream maintainers to ask what they'd like to have included in bug reports13:22
qensewe can document that on the wiki13:22
pedro_better to ask to asac about it13:22
pedro_since he's the maintainer of whole firefox on ubuntu13:22
qenseand have a checklist to check if the bug contains enough information to forward it upstream13:22
pedro_we may tell us what's the better for his work13:22
pedro_and how we can help there13:22
catterly_mit just seems like given an upcoming release and package, there should be a way for devs to determine what bugs against that package will apply to the upcoming release and which will be irrelevant (as they are against an old version and not applicable to the new one in some way)13:23
catterly_mmaybe there is already a way, I am new and don't know that much about the process yet :]13:24
pedro_that would require a lot of magic :-P13:24
qensebugzilla has a function to select the version13:25
qensemaybe malone would need something like that too13:25
catterly_myeah I think it would just require selecting the version of the package13:25
catterly_mthat seems pretty powerful13:25
qenseis there something like Brainstorm for Launchpad?13:27
pedro_bug 42413:28
ubotuLaunchpad bug 424 in malone "Bugs have no fields to specify package or product versions" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/42413:28
qensequite an old bug13:28
qensewhat the heck, bug 1000 is older13:29
ubotuLaunchpad bug 1000 in ubuntu "There are too many bug reports in Malone" [Medium,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/100013:29
qensebug 10000*13:29
ubotuLaunchpad bug 10000 in xorg "xserver-common: X crashed (signal 7) while scrolling in Mozilla" [Unknown,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1000013:29
secretlondonbug 1000 seems always true ;)13:30
Picibug 100000 :(13:30
ubotuLaunchpad bug 100000 in malone "There are still too many bug reports" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/10000013:30
qensethat's one weird bug report13:31
qensehe was just in time to report it though13:33
=== sl_fail is now known as secretlondon
secretlondonhi bddebian14:06
bddebianHi secretlondon14:07
hspaanscan someone confirm a bug in baobab in hardy about moving files to the wrong trash location?14:09
qensewhat's the bug number?14:09
hspaansnot yet, I'm trying to see if its a real bug14:10
Iulianbddebian: No boo today?14:12
IulianI'm very disappointed.14:12
bddebianDoh, yeah, forgot that.. :-(14:12
bddebianBOOOOOO :)14:12
* Iulian m00s!14:12
IulianThat's better :)14:13
andersjahi all, I was directed here from the ubuntu-devel chat14:14
andersjaI've got a problem with Launchpad https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/198453 and I was wondering if someone could be kind enough to triage it for a start14:14
ubotuLaunchpad bug 198453 in pulseaudio "PulseAudio prevents programs relying on ALSA to work correctly" [Undecided,Confirmed]14:14
andersjait's a complete show stopper for many "mom&pop" desktop users14:14
andersjaas a minimum; a quick triage would be great. suggestions for fixing it before Hardy final would be even better :-)14:17
hspaansqense: #20601714:20
qensebug 20601714:21
ubotuLaunchpad bug 206017 in gnome-utils "baobab uses wrong trash location" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20601714:21
qensenow we ve got the link :)14:21
secretlondonandersja, it's confirmed14:22
secretlondonit doesn't need triaging14:22
qensehspaans, is it confirmed by other people than you?14:23
hspaansqense: official no, I heard people complain yesterday on #ubuntu+1 and my OpenSolaris box hasn't 2.22 yet to see if its an error in GNOME14:24
qenseyou could look at bugzilla.gnome.org if it is reported there14:25
hspaansqense: no refs there, I'm still searching code to see if its an issue in gnome14:26
andersjasecretlondon: can't someone set it to "Medium" or something? I set it to Confirmed myself...?14:26
secretlondonandersja, did you submit it too?14:27
=== secretlondo is now known as secretlondon
secretlondonmodem died14:34
Picimy condolences14:34
secretlondonlooking at the bug I don't know what I could do to it. We know skype doesn't work with pulse audio etc14:35
qensedid I exit from this channel?14:36
hspaans15:27 -!- qense [n=qense@ck523187-a.dokku1.fr.home.nl] has left #ubuntu-bugs ["Ik ga weg"]14:37
qenseoh :P14:37
qenseI think I accidentiatly closed it14:37
hspaansare bugs 180794 and 205496 not covering the same issue?15:05
ubotuLaunchpad bug 180794 in sane-backends "access to usb device denied in latest hardy package" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18079415:05
ubotuLaunchpad bug 205496 in xsane "[Hardy]Xsane needs root to operate scanner" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20549615:05
qenseI think so15:06
* qense is away: I'm busy15:54
asacqense: if you have questions about mozilla bugs, please join #ubuntu-mozillateam :) ... we certainly can need more folks helping on ffox bug triage :)16:00
rgrigmeta-bug: i want to report some "package not installable" bugs reported by apt-get. i'm searching (at launchpad.net) for "not installable" (with quotes) and i get about 10000 answers, most of them not mentioning that phrase16:01
rgriggoogle does a better job16:01
rgrigis there a better solution to figure out what was reported already?16:01
=== secretlondo is now known as secretlondon
* qense is back (gone 00:09:41)16:03
james_wrgrig: looking at the bug lists for the specific package will be a good start to narrow it down.16:04
rgrigjames_w, is there a way to search for bugs of a particular package (other than adding the name in the simple search)?16:09
james_wrgrig: go to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sourcepackagename16:12
=== secretlondo is now known as secretlondon
james_wthen search there, you'll see the URL format that you need.16:13
rgrigjames_w, thanks16:13
burnerok, so I try to double-click a .tar.lzma file in nautilus and it doesn't know to open it with file-roller.  Where do I report this bug?  nautilus?  file-roller?  mime-type-blah-blah?16:29
james_wfile-roller.desktop lists "application/x-lzma-compressed-tar", so perhaps it is at fault. How to know what mimetype is detected for that file?16:32
burneruhh...  so you're saying it should open that file16:37
burnerit didn't on my machine and on a friend of mine16:37
burnerhere's what I did.  1.) right click file, create archive 2.) pick .tar.lzma 3.) try to double-click new .tar.lzma file16:38
james_wwhat creates the file? nautilus or file-roller?16:38
james_wand is the error message that it is an unsupported format, or that the file is corrupt?16:39
james_wit works ok for me.16:40
james_wwhen I double click it though it opens it in gthumb (I used an image file), rather than file-roller.16:41
james_wOpen With... file-roller works though16:41
rgrigshould bug reports involving universe/multiverse be filed in launchpad or only bugs related to packages in main?16:44
=== x-spec-t is now known as Spec
james_wall sections are in launchpad, so yes, universe and multiverse as well16:46
burnerno no, the problem is that it doesn't recognize .tar.lzma by default16:49
james_wah, sorry, I misread16:51
james_wso it's either file-roller for not listing the mimetype in its .desktop file, or whatever detects the mimetypes for detecting the wrong one.16:53
james_wso, I think if you open a bug report against both the right people will see it to decide.16:53
james_wexplain why you have filed it against both.16:53
james_wdo you know how to file against two packages?16:53
rgrigok, here's the problem: in main+universe+multiverse+restricted there are about 150 non-installable packages. what's the best way to report it? main by itself is ok. (this is found by a tool we wrote as a side-effect of some research)17:05
rgrig(that's about 0.5% of the total number of packages)17:07
james_wis this edos?17:19
james_wrgrig: you could either file bugs on all the packages.17:21
james_wor you could keep an up to date list on a webpage and get people to start fixing the bugs on it17:21
rgrigthanks for the pointers. we weren't aware of it.17:23
rgrigwe'll check if our information has anything new compared to that17:23
james_wcheckout the edos-debcheck package as well17:24
qenseI think bug 206031 could be a problem in handling the CD, can anyone tell something more about this?17:40
ubotuLaunchpad bug 206031 in console-tools "package console-tools 1:0.2.3dbs-65ubuntu5 failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20603117:40
qense I think bug 206031 could be a problem in handling the CD, can anyone tell something more about this?18:35
ubotuLaunchpad bug 206031 in console-tools "package console-tools 1:0.2.3dbs-65ubuntu5 failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20603118:35
james_wqense: it looks like it, it might be worth getting them to do the cd integrity check you can do on the boot menu18:44
qenseI hope it isn't an error in the CD program18:44
=== PsySine- is now known as PsySine
=== wolfger_ is now known as wolfger
Nightrosesorry cat on keyboard :P20:47
wolfgerteach the cat to triage :-)20:48
Nightroselol I will try to20:49
* Nightrose asks Sully what she thinks about triaging bugs20:49
IulianSully? :P20:55
IulianIs that it's name?20:55
Nightroseit is :P20:55
=== dako3256_ is now known as dako3256
jussio1bug day!! :)22:14
Iulianjussio1: Bug day?22:22
IulianDo we have one today?22:22
IulianI mean tomorrow.22:22
james_wIulian: yep, it was announced late.22:23
jussio1yes, its today here :)22:23
IulianI haven't received the message.22:24
* Iulian checks evo22:24
IulianUhmm, that's very strange.22:25
=== rbs-tito_ is now known as rbs-tito
=== dako3256_ is now known as dako3256
savvasneed a hand with a bug report, i used places > connect to server to connect to an ssh/sftp server, now it seems i can't connect to it or unmount it, I get this error:23:51
savvasUnable to unmount sftp on example.com23:51
savvasDBus error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.23:51
savvaswhat package should I add in the bug report? and should i include a log of some sort? using sftp from the command line seems to connect fine by the way23:53
savvashttps://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/206267 - if anyone has time, please give it a quick view later, thanks :)23:58
ubotuLaunchpad bug 206267 in ubuntu "Unable to unmount sftp" [Undecided,New]23:58

Generated by irclog2html.py 2.7 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!