RAOFHobbsee, Fujitsu: Oh, cool.  Looks like bug #194214 may have some resolution!00:06
ubotuLaunchpad bug 194214 in xorg-server "Keys get "stuck" down" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/19421400:06
FujitsuRAOF: So I saw!00:06
RAOFI'm building xorg-server with that patch applied right now :)00:07
FujitsuI would too, but my CPU time is being absorbed by mplayer-building evilness.00:07
FujitsuI think it's those LDFLAGS changes again, but it seems intermittent. Yay.00:07
RAOFWow.  xorg-server has _pages_ of dpkg-shlibs warnings :)00:09
RAOFRight.  Time to install this, nvidia-glx-new, and see if I can break it. :)00:10
FujitsuHave you reinstalled?00:12
RAOFNo.  So my system isn't exactly clean, but simply reinstalling all the xorg/mesa/etc related packages seems good enough.00:12
protonchrisRAOF: did you end up playing with ext4 yesterday?00:12
RAOFprotonchris: No.  I ended up learning 2 things: WoW runs (abysmally) using software mesa, and (2) WoW does not run using nouveau gallium :)00:13
RAOFOur wine maintainer rocks.  Props to YokoZar (whom I assume is behind our shiny new wine).00:17
ScottK3pochu: Please finish filling out Bug 199218 so we can get python-xml removal finished.00:23
ubotuLaunchpad bug 199218 in emesene "[FeatureFreeze Exception] Please sync emesene (universe) 1.0~r1137-1 from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/19921800:23
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* ScottK2 reminds people about http://qa.ubuntuwire.org/bugs/rcbugs/00:32
bddebianHeya gnag00:36
bddebianErr gang00:36
sistpotyhi bddebian00:36
RAOFHeya bddebian.00:36
bddebianHi sistpoty, RAOF00:36
protonchrishey bddebian00:36
RAOFFujitsu: That patch seems to fix it!  Awwww, yeah.00:36
FujitsuRAOF: Great!00:36
bddebianHello protonchris00:37
sistpotybddebian: I just closed a bug in powermanga, I happened to read (437299) :)00:37
sistpotystrange enough, my mail is not displayed in the bug :/00:37
bddebianBefore or after the new upstream?00:38
sistpotyI used the current version in unstable... it doesn't really matter, since the bug was just invalid00:38
bddebianOh, nice, thanks! :)00:38
sistpotythanks for the new upstream version, bddebian... just tested it for the FFe :)00:39
LaserJockScottK2: could you put  the rcbug URL in the topic?00:39
sistpotyoh, and we've left beta freeze00:41
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sistpotyLaserJock: s.th. like that?00:44
bddebiansistpoty: Ah, excellent, thanks00:44
bddebianYou going to file for attal too? :)00:45
LaserJocksistpoty: I was going to put it up front so everybody saw it, but yeah, thanks00:45
sistpotybddebian: I only ack'd it, should we go for attal?00:45
sistpotyLaserJock: feel free to reorganize my mess ;)00:45
bddebiansistpoty: Probably but I need to test a build with hardy :-(00:46
sistpotybddebian: I guess I can do that00:46
bddebianHah, I just tried to upload adanaxisgpl to Debian.. w00ps00:47
bddebianShould probably do clanlib too now that it just got accepted.. :)00:48
bddebianCouple of RC bugs there, I think00:48
* bddebian needs to stop being a lamer wrt to Ubuntu this release :-(00:51
sistpotycome on bddebian, you contribute with all that fixes showing up on the rc list :P00:52
bddebianYeah but I'm not uploading shit to Ubuntu this release :-(00:53
sistpotybddebian: I guess you're a step further now, you let your shit get synced for this release :P00:54
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Bruno_hi. in bug #164181 they ask to change the file crypttab.5.gz but i cant find such file in the source ?01:13
ubotuLaunchpad bug 164181 in cryptsetup "Manual page typos" [Low,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/16418101:13
sistpotybddebian: hm... attal-themes-medieval has a dependency loop with attal (funny, I tried installing these with dpkg independent from each other, and apt-get -f install actually solves it by removing the new attal and installing an old attal-themes-medieval *g*)01:16
bddebianShit, I thought I fixed that01:17
sistpotyoh, I got an old version of attal-themes-medieval... that explains the funny apt behaviour01:18
sistpotysorry bddebian01:19
sistpotydamn, new one didn't hit my unstable mirror yet01:19
LaserJockBruno_: is there any crypttab.5 file in the source or debian/ ?01:21
Bruno_LaserJock: yeah, just found it its crypttab.5.txt01:22
sistpotybddebian: oh nice, still in incoming :)01:24
sistpotybddebian: just saw, that the new attal didn't install the desktop file (it's there in a subdir of debian in the source package)02:13
bddebianReally?  Grr, damnit02:16
sistpotybddebian: well, it does have a menu entry... so I'm in favour of dropping that last bit of ubuntu only change I found ;)02:17
bddebianI'm the .desktop file king I can't believe I missed that :-(02:21
slavikI am trying to build xserver-xorg-core with a debdiff but I get errors regarding undeclared identifiers02:22
sistpotybddebian: btw.: nice game, reminds me on the heroes of might and magic series, which I completeley loved (oh, I still didn't finish the newest one)02:22
moepothi there.. I asked to be added to the ubuntu-universe-contributors team.. and now I should ask the REVU admins to resync the keyring ;-) ...02:24
sistpotymoepot: give me a sec please02:25
moepotsistpoty: take it easy02:25
slavikwhat game?02:26
sistpotymoepot: what's your gpg key id? (too lazy to do a full resync now)02:26
sistpotyslavik: attal02:26
moepotone second..02:26
ScottK2moepot: We aren't taking new packages right now, so there's no great rush.02:27
moepotsistpoty: 1024D/B6D4FFA0 is that right?02:27
sistpotyslavik: hard to tell w.o. context. my best guess are that these are declared somewhere in mesa and maybe you're missing that as a build-dependency?02:27
moepotScottK2: I'm waiting for ibex ;-)02:28
sistpotymoepot: I don't know if that's your key... but I added it to revu's keyring now, so your uploads will get processed by revu now02:28
ScottK2OK.  It's a pretty safe bet the keyring will get sync'ed between now an dthen.02:28
moepotsistpoty: yea, that's my key. but I don't really know if you meant the fingerprint02:29
sistpotymoepot: no, I just needed some keyid to import02:29
moepotaehm.. how to login in revu account?02:30
sistpotymoepot: you don't have an account yet. once you update a package, revu creates an account. you can recover your password by entering your the email you used for uploading the package and not entering any pw02:31
moepotsistpoty: ah. right. thank you much for your help and work ;-)02:33
sistpotymoepot: np, that wasn't too much work actually ;)02:33
moepotsistpoty: I hope so :-P02:34
sistpotyotherwise I'd blame the revu author... damn *g*02:34
moepotou yea.. hehe02:34
moepotScottK2: Sorry, I read your message only now. But I think it's no problem to upload my package now?02:41
sistpotymoepot: it might get lost, once revu moves to the a new box (which has currently not enough hard disk space to import all current revu uploads)02:45
slavikI am lost :(02:46
moepotsistpoty: okay. In that case I've to wait until hardy has been released?02:49
sistpotymoepot: you could fix a bug or so... maybe you'd like to take a look at the rc-bug list (see topic)02:49
moepotsistpoty: mmh good. but new packages aren't allowed?02:52
sistpotymoepot: only, if there's a really, really good reason, why we'd want it in (in preference to backport from intrepid)02:53
moepotsistpoty: no, there isn't ;-)02:53
Fujitsusistpoty: I wonder how much space you'd save with an fdupes+hardlinking run.02:53
sistpotyslavik: I'd suggest that you grep for GL_DEPTH_STENCIL_MESA and check if that file is included in rensize.c and also in the include path02:54
sistpotyFujitsu: no idea, feel free to give it a shot ;)02:55
slavikthe problem is that I can't find the file as I am building it from the repo source02:55
sistpotyScottK2: personal one: bug 205810 would need an ACK02:56
ubotuLaunchpad bug 205810 in attal "please sync attal (1.0~rc1+cvs20080318-1) and attal-themes (1.0~rc1+cvs20080318-1) from unstable/main and (FIXME: moving target) to universe" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20581002:56
sistpotyslavik: my best guess is that its somewhere in the repo source as well... but that's of course only a wild guess02:56
moepotwow, really nice bot02:57
moepotbug 102:57
ubotuLaunchpad bug 1 in ubuntu "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/102:57
moepotthat's cool :D02:58
sistpotymoepot: please don't abuse it... it might get angry otherwise ;)02:58
moepotsistpoty: oh.. what a bad bot :(02:58
slavikhmm, nothing :(03:03
slavikhmm, http://lists.debian.org/debian-x/2006/08/msg00827.html03:05
slaviksomeone had this before ... but I still don't understand what the fix is03:06
sistpotyslavik: oh, seems like you have some nvidia headers installed?03:07
sistpoty(instead of the build-dependencies)03:07
slavikI guess so ... :(03:08
slavikhow would I remove the driver?03:08
sistpotyslavik: you might want to use a chroot (or pbuilder) maybe?03:08
slavikhow different is the process with pbuilder?03:10
sistpotypbuilder actually is some glue around a chroot, aimed at building debian packages (you give it a debian source package as input, and a .deb falls out). So it's hardy to use than a mere chroot when dealing with upstream builds or stuff.03:11
sistpotybut at the base, pbuilder has still a tarball of a chroot (it's really only some glue around it)03:12
slavikI have all the packages and everything and applied the debdiff03:12
slavikpbuilder is getting packages it needs03:12
sistpotywell, as listed in build-depends03:12
sistpotylol, I just read that I wrote hardy instead of hard... damn coincidence *g*03:14
slavikerr ...03:14
slavikthe original package was ubuntu5, but ubuntu6 was created (what is supposed to be the new package03:15
slavikthe errors were on debuild -uc -us03:15
slavikshould I just run pbuilder on the ubuntu5.dsc?03:16
sistpotyyes, exactly... s.th. like pbuilder build ....dsc03:17
sistpoty(or pdebuild in the top dir of the source package, just like debuild)03:17
slavikwhat's the difference?03:18
slavikwait, I need to build with the applied (to the source) patch03:18
sistpotythe correlation between pdebuild and pbuilder is the same as debuild and dpkg-buildpackage03:18
sistpotythe first is a wrapper around the second03:18
slavikso, there is no difference which I do?03:19
slavikpdebuild vs. pbuilder03:19
sistpotynot too much of a difference, no03:19
slavikas long as the patch gets applied :P03:19
slavikit's the one that fixes the stuck key when scrolling03:20
* slavik is a complete packaging noob :P03:20
emgentdebian #46948803:21
ubotuDebian bug 469488 in wireshark "wireshark: CVE-2008-107[0-2] multiple ways to crash wireshark via crafted packets" [Important,Fixed] http://bugs.debian.org/46948803:21
slavikbug 19421403:22
ubotuLaunchpad bug 194214 in xorg-server "Keys get "stuck" down" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/19421403:22
slavikthat one :)03:22
sistpotyemgent: FFe already filed and granted fot that one03:28
sistpoty(\sh_away: did it)03:28
emgentyes i know03:29
emgent\sh say to me to work in gutsy03:29
emgentbug #17228303:29
ubotuLaunchpad bug 172283 in wireshark "[wireshark] multiple vulnerabilities" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/17228303:29
emgentnow i'm in building test03:30
emgentbut there are some problem with CVE-2008-1070 and CVE-2008-107103:30
ubotuThe SCTP dissector in Wireshark (formerly Ethereal) 0.99.5 through 0.99.7 allows remote attackers to cause a denial of service (crash) via a malformed packet. (http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2008-1070)03:30
ubotuThe SNMP dissector in Wireshark (formerly Ethereal) 0.99.6 through 0.99.7 allows remote attackers to cause a denial of service (crash) via a malformed packet. (http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2008-1071)03:30
emgentCVE-2008-1070 seems not vulnerable in linux OS.03:31
ubotuThe SCTP dissector in Wireshark (formerly Ethereal) 0.99.5 through 0.99.7 allows remote attackers to cause a denial of service (crash) via a malformed packet. (http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2008-1070)03:31
emgenti tested it, but work fine and i dont have microsoft box for confirm my test03:31
emgentanyway debian too dont fix it in lenny, only in sid with version bump.03:32
* sistpoty goes to bed now... gn8 everyone03:40
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slavikwell, either the patch doesn't fix the bug for me or when I ran pbuilder, the source wasn't built with the patch ...03:51
jdonganyone have md5sums for hardy beta amd64 desktop ISO handy?03:59
jdongdon't feel like navigating the mirrors03:59
emgentok i go to sleep.04:02
emgentnight gang04:02
slavikjdong: web site?04:04
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FujitsuIs there any way I can get a list of lists.ubuntu.com lists that I'm subscribed to as a certain email address? It doesn't send out the usual reminders.08:44
warp10Good morning08:52
adnarimcould someone give me a little bit advice on how to packaga a Java-application which is just a simple JAR-file?09:02
uniscrip1how can I create a package that patchs or mixes in into another binary package?09:33
uniscrip1I can think of two ways: dpkg-divert or replaces: but neither fits me quite right09:33
adnarimuniscrip1 as I understood the debian-policy mucking with another packages config or binary isn't allowed09:38
uniscrip1it is if you are a good boy about it09:40
uniscrip1and I do want to be a good boy, honest guv :)09:40
uniscrip1replaces: allows a package to take over ownership of a file from another package and then replace it09:41
uniscrip1(that's replaces: field in the control file)09:41
uniscrip1but when that happens you can't update the original package because it can't overwright one of its files09:42
uniscrip1(overwrite even)09:42
Fujitsuuniscrip1: That's why it's evil and wrong and verboten.09:42
uniscrip1well it's better than trying to get a parallel install of openoffice working09:43
uniscrip1because that doesn't work either09:43
adnarimyes I know about replaces but I have just seen it in use when replacing a whole package like conflicts would be used09:43
adnarimwhat do you want to achieve uniscrip1 ? maybe you can talk to the openoffice maintainer to add your modifications?09:44
uniscrip1we are hoping that will happen in due course09:44
uniscrip1at the moment it's for early adopters to support extended smart rendering09:44
uniscrip1i.e. even if our code was accepted today, it won't get into ubuntu until intrepid at the very very earliest and probably intrepid+109:45
uniscrip1OO tends to work 2 versions ahead of itself :(09:45
adnarimyes af course there's no way to get it into the offical repos until interapid, you could offer an alternate openoffice-package and declare in the controls that it conflicts with the original openoffice package09:47
uniscrip1hmm and force them to reinstall09:47
uniscrip1do I call it the same thing?09:48
adnarimor you could just write a sloopy hack and offer this to your users09:48
uniscrip1what version would I give it? the ubuntu version +1?09:49
uniscrip1so that the next update kicks it out?09:49
uniscrip1sloopy hack means replaces?09:49
uniscrip1hmm perhaps I could write a openoffice.org-core that conflicts with the normal openoffice.org-core and replace the files I want in there?09:50
adnarimif you would give it ubuntuX+1 it will replaced by the offical repos if there will be some bugs to fix.... you could use Epoch to prevent this09:50
uniscrip1would that be so bad?09:50
adnarimyes because how will you fix the occuring problem if someone deinstalls your package?09:50
FujitsuIf you use an epoch for that, a velociraptor will come and eat you.09:50
uniscrip1sounds painful :)09:50
uniscrip1well at least it means that they won't get anything out of sync09:51
uniscrip1i.e. if they update OO then my patch gets dumped until I can slide in a replacement09:51
uniscrip1the problem is that I want to make this an optional install09:51
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uniscrip1not: oh look you got the update, you now have graphite whether you like it or not09:52
uniscrip1mind you not that anyone should notice09:52
adnarimbut as said If you replace files and someone deinstalls your package he will end up with an unusable oo-package09:52
uniscrip1true because it won't put the files back09:53
uniscrip1how about alternative repository: you turn on the repository and you get the replacement packages09:54
uniscrip1but how does that make sure they get the right replacement package for the right version09:54
adnarimI mean what do you have to replace at all in the original package?09:55
uniscrip1i.e. just one .so09:55
adnarimwell I think the best thing would be to write a patch for this. I someone wants your additions he applays the patch if he doesn't want it anymore he reverts the patch...09:56
uniscrip1we're talking users here not package builders09:57
uniscrip1or are you talking a binary patch09:57
uniscrip1or are you talking a script they run to poke the patch in?09:57
adnarimyou will use the deb-system as a patching-engine what it's not, you should tell to users to aplly a patch09:57
uniscrip1by a patch you mean: install a package and run the program to overwrite the libvcl?09:58
uniscrip1and then when oo next updates the patch is lost (a good thing)09:58
uniscrip1and they have to go around again?09:58
adnarimnow I mean a patch :) a simple diff-file which can be apllied via the patch command09:58
uniscrip1err have you ever tried building OpenOffice?09:58
adnarimno why should I :D09:58
uniscrip1you do not want to try09:59
FujitsuIt takes many hours, and often won't build.09:59
uniscrip112hrs build time09:59
uniscrip1this has got to be a binary patch09:59
uniscrip1any other application and I might be inclined to agree but this is OO we are talking about09:59
adnarimyou can take all the necassary build-files out of the already buold-package with apt-get source openoffice...09:59
uniscrip1yes I know *I* can patch OO (after a week of hackery)09:59
uniscrip1but average joe users can't09:59
adnarimno you just create your modified files and let them compare to the original ones with the diff command10:00
uniscrip1so what does the user do? talk me through the scenario10:00
adnarimthe file you get as output is the patch and a user can apply it with one single command10:00
uniscrip1which overrides their libvcl they have installed10:01
uniscrip1and then when they update oo the patch is lost (which is a good thing btw010:01
uniscrip1and I produce another one specific to that version and then they apply that10:01
uniscrip1OK I'll look into that10:01
uniscrip1is that the best we can do?10:01
adnarimI think this should work fine and would be the best solution at the moment10:02
adnarimbut if yu really want to get it into the offical repositorys don't forget talking early with the OOmaintainer about it10:02
uniscrip1and I can use dependencies to make sure that the patch package they download is appropriate to the version of OO they have installed?10:02
adnarimsuch a procedure can take a long time10:02
uniscrip1hopefully it'll be as easy as adding: --enable-graphite to his configure flags10:03
adnarimthe patch notices if the files aren't correct10:03
adnarimjust take a look at man patch and man diff10:03
uniscrip1but we are patching binaries here, please note10:03
uniscrip1right I need to go10:03
uniscrip1thanks for your input10:03
adnarimnp ;)10:03
uniscrip1I will go and think on it and how to do binary patching without people noticing :)10:04
tsmithehi there: could a motu upload the debdiff at bug 205771?10:08
ubotuLaunchpad bug 205771 in mscore "Please update mscore to 0.9.1d+dfsg-0ubuntu3 (debdiff attached)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20577110:08
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* tsmithe pokes motu11:38
tsmithebug 205771? :)11:38
ubotuLaunchpad bug 205771 in mscore "Please update mscore to 0.9.1d+dfsg-0ubuntu3 (debdiff attached)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20577111:38
frenchy_slangasek: Hi there!  Can I talk to you about NetworkManager here?11:38
frenchy_Ooops, is that an "ask to ask"?11:39
tsmitheRainCT, could you upload a debdiff for me?11:42
james_wtsmithe: your debdiff reverses the maintainer change.11:44
tsmithejames_w, woops. that must be from a previous debian-mentors upload11:44
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james_wtsmithe: so, if you fix that the patch looks ok to me. I can't sponsor though I'm afraid.11:48
james_wyou just need to have patience and wait for someone to pick it up.11:48
tsmithedon't worry; thanks for checking it out :)11:48
james_wno problem11:48
tsmitheyep. i just don't want it to be there when freezes get more stringent11:48
* tsmithe uploads new debdiff and goes /away11:52
Hobbseeslangasek: there are instructions for dealing with NBS.  they're even public.11:53
frenchy_Hobbsee:  What packages are NBS? Not Built from Source, right?  When does this happen?  If you can spare a moment.12:00
Hobbseefrenchy_: correct.  it happens when a source stops building a binary (lib soname change, new libname, for eg)12:00
RainCTfrenchy_: when the source package for a package is removed but the binary is still needed as it's a dependency of some other package(s)12:06
frenchy_Hobbsee: Thanks,  ...12:06
RainCTeh, was already answered :P12:06
frenchy_RainCT: Thanks ... now that makes sense. ... sorry Hobbsee.12:06
Hobbseeno problem12:06
frenchy_RainCT: Thank you.  I disambiguated the previous answer.12:07
frenchy_Sorry .. no offence there ... to anyone.12:07
ubotuSome packages are no longer built from source as a result of various transitions.  The reverse dependencies of these packages require an update.  The current tracking list is available from http://people.ubuntu.com/~ubuntu-archive/NBS/12:09
StevenHarperUKHi everyone: I have a small bug in a Hardy package - its very easy to fix, but due to workload on you guys sorting packages, should I fix it and make a package, or the MOTU's maxed out?12:24
StevenHarperUKI also only just put out the last version -> last night12:24
ScottKStevenHarperUK: Make a package.  Odds of it getting sponsored before release are good.12:34
sebnerScottK: time for a 2nd ACK? bug #20455212:37
ubotuLaunchpad bug 204552 in packagesearch "[FFe] Please sync packagesearch 2.3 from Debian(Unstable)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20455212:37
* broonie notes that in general there are very few people who'd prefer a report without a patch over one with a patch.12:37
StevenHarperUKScottK: ta I will12:37
ScottKsebner: It's already approved.12:42
sebnerScottK: through Cesare? Ah. He should write ACK #2 :) nvm. Thanks and sry12:44
ScottKsebner: No problem.  You can tell when someone from motu-release marks it confirmed.12:45
sebnerScottK: k :) /me is now subscribing u-u-s several times :)12:47
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ScottKdoko: We are very close on python-xml.  After the two syncs that you've requested are processes there are only two left.  zsi looks like the tough one.  I think it's either grab an svn snapshot or embed python-xml (at least a large chunk of it) in the current release.12:57
sistpotyhi folks13:08
sebneraloha sistpoty13:08
sistpotyhi sebner13:08
sistpotyHobbsee: please give back missingh on sparc, thanks!13:09
ScottKpochu: emesene is one of two pakcages with python-xml removal unresolved.  Please get the FFe done ....13:10
Hobbseesistpoty: given back13:10
sistpotythanks Hobbsee13:10
sebnersistpoty: do you have a lot of work today?13:14
sistpotysebner: I've always got a lot of work :P13:14
sebnersistpoty: ^^. It's just that audacious still needs a sponsor ACK but I'm afraid that no one looks at audacious because it's set to confirmed ^^13:15
sistpotysebner: audacious-plugins: please take a look at the ubuntu delta again, and tell if it can be dropped or not (the delta is not pulseaudio-by-default there)13:46
sebnersistpoty: damn it. and thanks for looking13:48
sebnersistpoty: difficult question. in generel we can drop the Replaces field because we can install both and in fact it's better to have both. -plugins and -plugins-extra13:55
sistpotysebner: the conflicts are versioned... are there no file conflicts any longer between the old version and the new package? otherwise the upgrade path breaks13:56
sebnersistpoty: I'm not yet at the conflicts ^^.13:57
sebnersistpoty: hmm I'm of the opinion that we only have to adjust audacious-plugins-extra (<< 1.4.2-1ubuntu2) to audacious-plugins-extra (<< 1.4.5-1ubuntu1)14:00
bddebianHeya gang14:03
sistpotyhi bddebian14:05
bddebianHi sistpoty14:05
sebnerbuon giorno DktrKranz14:17
DktrKranzthe same sebner :)14:17
sebnersistpoty: I tested the update from gutsy to hardy with http://pastebin.com/m67274a61 . No problems14:20
sebnersistpoty: and I had no problem from updating audacious hardy version to gutsy version. so leave it or test it with audacious-plugins-extra (<< 1.4.5-1ubuntu1) ?14:26
* sistpoty looks at actual files14:33
sistpotysebner: the 1.4.5-1ubuntu1 seems fine, since pulseaudio was moved between packages there. OTOH it would seem good to me to keep the move of the pulseaudio plugin14:50
sistpotysebner: if you keep the pulseaudio plugin in the plugins package, then you should keep the old conflicts14:54
sebnersistpoty: 1.4.2 ?14:55
sebnersistpoty: that would be the best?14:56
sistpotysebner: yes14:56
sebnersistpoty: but I can take the Depends line from debian?14:57
sistpotysebner: yes15:00
sebnersistpoty: but that means also that we have to keep the Replaces line!?15:00
sistpotysebner: yes, I'd keep it. it shouldn't matter too much iirc for upgrades. (as the new version also acts to replace the older version, so apt should figure w.o. as well)15:01
LimCorehow can I make a proper .patch  to fix bug   https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/scponly/+bug/122715  as described there15:02
ubotuLaunchpad bug 122715 in scponly "setup_chroot not working correctly on amd64" [Undecided,Confirmed]15:02
sebnersistpoty: k. thank you. Want should I've done without you15:02
LimCoreand what can I make about it - where it have chance of getting into release?15:02
sebnersistpoty: debdiff attached15:13
ScottKsistpoty: I replied on the mailscanner FFe.  I wash my hands of it.15:16
ScottKsistpoty: If only we had Reason for Removal: Upstream are idiots.15:17
zulhey ScottK15:18
ScottKHeya zul.15:19
sistpotysebner: debdiff for -plugins looks ok, however I'd like better changelog entries: what was done and *why* (which was not there in the old ones, but that's not a reason to be lacking in a new changelog entry)15:21
sebnersistpoty: ok15:22
sistpotysebner: e.g.: "debian/control: Add versioned conflicts/replaces against audacious-plugins-extra to audacious-plugins, since the libpulse output plugin used to live in audacious-plugins-extra"15:24
sebnersistpoty: wow. that's a nice sentence15:25
sistpotysebner: well, I learned being verbose when I had to redo my earlier merges back than in dapper. And I was really puzzled what I had done to some packages from looking at my changelog entries *g*15:27
sebnersistpoty: ^^. is it a problem that I can't find out why we started to suggest timidy?15:28
sistpotysebner: yes, otherwise I assume you're changing s.th. w.o. knowing what you're doing :P15:30
ScottKsebner: You might search closed bugs.15:30
sebnerScottK: yeah I know ;)15:30
sebnersistpoty: ^^15:30
ScottKI tend to drop undocumented changes if I can't figure out why.  For a recommends, I'd just look at the package and see if you think it makes sense.  If you do, document why.  If you don't, drop it.15:32
sebnerjust found it out15:33
sebnerScottK: but thx for the advice :)15:35
nxvljames_w: hi15:37
nxvljames_w: i answer you on Bug #205985, there is not what you point to, but it is also present15:38
ubotuLaunchpad bug 205985 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 "package mysql-server-5.0 5.0.51a-1ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess new pre-removal script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20598515:38
james_whi nxvl15:38
james_wthanks for the clarification, it was just a guess, as I had seen the linked mail just a couple of days ago.15:39
james_wsorry for the incorrect pointer.15:39
sebnersistpoty: but I still don't understand one thing. We introduced versioning because libpulse output plugin used to live in audacious-plugins-extra but we moved it to the normal plugins!?15:40
nxvljames_w: there is no problem, you point to another bug it is also present :D15:40
james_wyay, fluke bug reporting!15:41
nxvljames_w: i also added a patch on Bug #162167 if you want to take a look15:44
ubotuLaunchpad bug 162167 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 "mySQL password asks only once" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/16216715:44
sistpotysebner: yes15:45
sebnersistpoty: ehm and why again we don't drop the versioning since we moved it to the main plugins?15:47
james_wnxvl: "pidfile=/usr/sbin/mysqld --print-defaults \" looks quite odd, did you intend to use $()?15:47
sistpotysebner: the current packages don't have a file conflict. however there was an earlier version of -extra which contains the pulseaudio-plugin, which is now in the -plugins package. hence these two cannot be installed together15:48
nxvljames_w: i have try to use it before, but it seems not to work15:49
nxvljames_w: i always try to use `15:50
james_wnxvl: also -x is "is executable", did you mean -e?15:50
james_wnxvl: there doesn't appear to be either $() or `` in the patch.15:50
james_w'+  echo "hola"' <- is that a debugging statement?15:51
nxvljames_w: ups!15:51
sebnersistpoty: that means with hardy +1 it can be dropped?15:51
sistpotysebner: imo yes, as gutsy->hardy+1 upgrades are not s.th. we support iirc15:52
sebnersistpoty: k, thx15:53
nxvljames_w: it's monday morning after a loong weekend, my brain doesn't work even at 50%15:54
nxvljames_w: ok, updated15:55
sebnersistpoty: updated. I hope I can make you happy now ^^ :P15:58
james_wnxvl: looks ok to me, but I don't know the package I'm afraid.16:01
sistpotysebner: almost: please don't exceed 80 chars in debian/changelog (but I can fix this and upload then, it will then stay in dep-wait until audacious is synced hopefully, so lp can sort it out on its own)16:07
nxvljames_w: :D it just need some testing16:08
james_wnxvl: yup.16:08
sebnersistpoty: It was my intention to see if you complain about the 80chars ^^. No to be serious. Thanks for all16:08
* sebner still has to learn many things :)16:08
joejaxxGood Afternoon All :)16:31
sistpotyhey joejaxx16:33
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slangasekHobbsee: if you mean the instructions in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArchiveAdministration, those don't actually map to whatever cronjob generates the information on people.u.c... well, I suppose maybe I have passwordless rsync access to rookery, I dunno17:35
slangasekfrenchy_: you can, but not at 4am. :)17:36
buttterzafternoon :)17:43
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IulianCan someone please take a look at bug #206072 and ACK ?19:28
ubotuLaunchpad bug 206072 in spamoracle "Please sync spamoracle 1.4-11 (universe) from Debian unstable" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20607219:28
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frenchy_slangasek: How about at 0630?19:40
frenchy_slangasek: I think that there's another version available for Hardy.  I'll try that first and report back tonight.19:42
dgrtDoes anyone know whether not pymedia (http://pymedia.org/) will be added as an ubuntu package?19:54
ScottKdgrt: If it's not already in Hardy, not until some future release at the earliest19:56
dgrtScottK: thanks.19:56
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sebneraloha jono :)20:53
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mathiazThe hwtest-server package has a .config script that calls /usr/share/hwtest/install/config, shipped by the hwtest package. However hwtest-server only Depends on hwtest. Would hwtest-server Pre-Depends on hwtest be enough to fix the fail installation of hwtest-server ?22:58
sorenmathiaz: Depends should be sufficient, I believe.23:05
sorenmathiaz: With a Depends:, the package on which you depend must be installed, but not necessarily configured.23:06
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FujitsuRAOF: I can't get your PPA nouveau working on Hardy. It complains about unknown versions of various drm symbols.23:24
RAOFFujitsu: Sigh.  I really need to just sit down and do the dpkg-divert/module-assistant stuff.23:52
RAOFFujitsu: The problem is that I don't overwrite our drm module (in drivers/char/drm or somesuch), but provide an extra one in /extra.23:52
RAOFOn _my_ system, the one in /extra gets loaded.  On some other people's systems, the Ubuntu-shipped one gets loaded.  And that doesn't work, because nouveau requires git drm.23:53
RAOFThe practical upshot?  Manually insmod /lib/modules/2.6.24-12-generic/extra/drm.ko, then modprobe nouveau.  Then start X.23:54
ethana2there is no package for truecrypt23:54
ethana2easy crypt requires it23:54
ethana2but it does not depend on it23:54
ethana2the latest version of truecrypt has a bug fix that is required for easycrypt to function23:55
ethana2it needs to be put into the ubuntu repositories23:55
WillieDaPimpE: /var/cache/apt/archives/language-pack-en_1%3a8.04+20080317_all.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/share/locale-langpack/en_GB/LC_MESSAGES/shared-mime-info.mo', which is also in package language-pack-gnome-en23:58
WillieDaPimpanybody know what i can do about that ^^  i am running hardy beta23:58
WillieDaPimpnever mind just re running the update manager fixed it23:59

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