[15:07] <jt1> asac: hi
[15:37] <Adri2000> hi
[15:38] <Adri2000> anyone familiar with packaging firefox extensions?
[15:57] <asac> jtv: hi
[15:57] <asac> Adri2000: yes
[15:59] <jtv> asac: importing XPI.
[16:00] <Adri2000> asac: I'm updating greasemonkey to the latest upstream version that works with firefox 3, but seems the directory(ies) where to put the extensions have changed. is there any doc about this?
[16:00] <asac> jtv: i had a question about how the exact path looks like in .po:
[16:01] <asac> On the wiki page you show the comment line as:
[16:01] <asac> #: en-US.xpi/en-US.jar!/locale/translation.dtd:45(the.firefox.key)
[16:01] <asac> However in the file supplied the comment line is:
[16:01] <asac> #: xulrunner/en-US.xpi/en-US.jar!/locale/en-US/necko/necko.properties:43(3)
[16:01] <asac> jtv: ^^
[16:01] <asac> i assume the latter is right?
[16:01] <asac> Adri2000: greasemonkey is already done
[16:02] <asac> Adri2000: have you been in my extension packaging tutorial session?`
[16:02] <asac> Adri2000: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Firefox3Extensions
[16:02] <Adri2000> nope
[16:02] <jtv> asac: I think the latter is the one you'll see in practice, yes.
[16:02] <jtv> asac: AFAIK there's no way for that prefix to get in there.
[16:02] <asac> Adri2000: there is a list of extensions. those that have a ubuntu contact don't need attention
[16:03] <asac> Adri2000: but there should be others that might need some guidance
[16:03] <asac> especially those already packaged need to attentiona
[16:03] <asac> jtv: huh? doesn't that conflict?
[16:04] <asac> why will i see tha latter in practice, while we cannot get that prefix in there?
[16:04] <asac> mozilla bug 314805
[16:04] <ubotu> Mozilla bug 314805 in Bugzilla: Keywords & Components "create LDAP integration pseudo-user" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=314805
[16:04] <jtv> asac: the XPI file is the starting point of the paths inside it.
[16:05] <asac> jtv: ok thanks.
[16:05] <asac> thats ok ... as long as the exported po file containst the app name (somehow)
[16:05] <jtv> asac: you can see some of the imported translations on staging now (and request some individual exports if you like).
[16:06] <jtv> asac: the app name is implicit in where you request the download.
[16:06] <asac> jtv: great. let me first do something else (currently in 4 discussions )
[16:06] <asac> :)
[16:06] <jtv> whoops
[16:07] <Adri2000> asac: ok, that's great, I'll contact jazzva
[16:07] <asac> Adri2000: jazzva has it already in the firefox-extensions project
[16:08] <Adri2000> I saw that
[16:08] <asac> Adri2000: are there other extension you would like to take care of (e.g. those packaged, but not in that list)
[16:08] <asac> Adri2000: there is still one more week to get new extensions packaged for hardy :)
[16:09] <Adri2000> well I'll take a look, but I'm not at all a mozilla expert :) I started looking at greasemonkey because I was the last upload and someone subscribed me to bug #202165
[16:09] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 202165 in greasemonkey "Greasemonkey installer is broken. Package needs to be updated with firefox dependancies." [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/202165
[16:09] <Adri2000> s/upload/uploader/
[16:10] <asac> Adri2000: ah ok. packaging is really easy nowadays for most extensions
[16:10] <asac> the main work is to figure which extensions have a proper licensing
[16:10] <asac> so even if you don't want to package, getting that information and adding suitable extensions to that page (without QA contact) is really helpful
[16:11] <Adri2000> ok
[16:25] <asac> jtv: where do i export the translations?
[16:27] <asac> https://translations.staging.launchpad.net/firefox ... that page just has german and its 100% untranslated (or is that figure intentionally wrong)?
[16:27] <asac> jtv: ?
[16:27] <jtv> asac: just a moment...
[16:27] <jtv> asac: if you follow the Download link here, for example: https://translations.staging.launchpad.net/firefox/3.0/+pots/firefox/nl/+translate
[16:28] <jtv> asac: try "Show template & all languages"
[16:28] <jtv> asac: otherwise the overview will only show you your preferred languages.
[16:29] <asac> jtv: and the xulrunner link is similar?
[16:30] <asac> jtv: oh ... it tells me that an email was send ... interesting
[16:31] <jtv> asac: oh, yeah, it's staging...  Just a moment, I'll do a manual script run.
[16:38] <jtv> asac: still exporting.  May be because of the concurrent import.  It's still damn slow.
[16:38] <asac> jtv: thats ok. i need to do other things that are time consuming as well in parallel :)
[16:59] <asac> jtv: export still progressing?
[17:00] <jtv> asac: first one's done, I'll send you a link
[17:00] <jtv> asac: http://staging.launchpadlibrarian.net/12801963/launchpad-export.tar.gz
[17:01] <jtv> asac: http://staging.launchpadlibrarian.net/12801964/launchpad-export.tar.gz
[17:01] <jtv> they're both done
[17:02] <jtv> asac: imports still incomplete though
[17:03] <asac> jtv: ok, so would it make sense to reexport once imports finished?
[17:03] <asac> how long do you expect them to last?
[17:13] <asac> jtv: the en-US.xpi is not included in the export
[17:13] <asac> jtv: thought that carlos already had that coded.
[17:14] <jtv> arrrgh
[17:14] <asac> can we get that nowish ... or should we assume we got them and wait for lp?
[17:14] <jtv> asac: it takes a long time :(
[17:14] <asac> jtv: further the tarball appears to be dirty ... i always get:
[17:14] <asac> ./
[17:14] <asac> tar: Removing leading `/' from member names
[17:14] <asac> /xulrunner-en.po
[17:15] <asac> but i guess thats already known
[17:15] <jtv> yes
[17:15] <asac> jtv: but will we get the .xpi's in the end?
[17:15] <asac> or do we need another workaround?
[17:15] <jtv> I thought they'd be in there.  :(
[17:16] <jtv> we're releasing this week, so difficult time to get other changes in.
[17:16] <asac> jtv: #: en-US.xpi/en-US.jar!/locale/en-US/cookie/cookieAcceptDialog.dtd(button.deny.accesskey)
[17:16] <asac> msgid "button.deny.accesskey"
[17:16] <asac> still accesskey in msgid
[17:17] <jtv> Yes, haven't had time to do anything about that yet.
[17:17] <asac> thats definitly a mandatory thing
[17:17] <asac> the .xpi are almost mandatory ... we can workaround for specific apps ... but its really painful
[17:19] <jtv> asac: I'm sort of beyond the point where I can think straight... can you remind me tomorrow?
[17:19] <jtv> (It's past midnight here)
[17:19] <asac> jtv: yes. sure ... if the chance of getting the .xpi export in isn't reduced significantly by that i can do so :)
[17:20] <jtv> also, carlos will be back tomorrow
[17:20] <asac> ok.
[17:20] <asac> sleep well then
[17:20] <jtv> thx
[17:22] <fta> hi
[17:25] <asac> hi fta
[17:27] <asac> have to run out now for 1-2 hours ... shipping family back home :)
[17:30]  * armin76 ships asac 
[18:12] <cwong1> I am having display rendering issue with www.yahoo.com on Firefox. The "More" button is on the wrong place. Someone said it is a font issue on my system.  Anyone here have any idea?
[18:23] <armin76> is alsa-oss still need for flash stuff?
[18:23] <armin76> fta: ^
[18:23] <fta> donno, i'm now using pulseaudio
[18:24] <armin76> alsa-oss breaks with ff3 beta4, btw
[18:24] <armin76> err
[18:24] <armin76> well, it breaks ff3, not itself :P
[18:24] <armin76> due to jemalloc, you won't notice it because you use xul
[18:47] <fta> asac, i've added a script to mozilla-devscripts to package the nightlies from mozilla as .deb such as firefox-minefield_3.0~b5~build2008032404-1_amd64.deb
[19:06] <saivann> asac : ping
[19:06] <asac> cwong1: what font are you using?
[19:08] <asac> fta: sounds good. for which applications will that work?
[19:08] <asac> saivann: whats up sir?
[19:09] <saivann> asac : I wanted to tell you the status for the ubufox translations. I still just have 5 translations, without proofs that these translations are not poor. I sent a mail to a lot of translation team administrators but it was not really succesful yet
[19:10] <saivann> asac : I sent a mail today to the ubuntu-translators mailing list, I'm waiting to get more answers about it
[19:11] <asac> saivann: when did you send the last mail?
[19:11] <saivann> asac : few hours ago
[19:11] <asac> ok lets wait a bit longer
[19:12] <saivann> asac : Of course. When will the ubufox code get into repostories?
[19:12] <asac> maybe tomorrow at same time we should reconsider based on whether there are answers or not.
[19:12] <asac> saivann: i will make that dependent on the response you get from the translators list
[19:13] <saivann> asac : Ok thank you, I'm subscribed to this list and I will get back to you as soon as I get answers
[19:13] <asac> if there is no reply, I will merge them on Thu i guess
[19:13] <asac> saivann: can you bring up a branch with the current translations?
[19:13] <saivann> asac : I will do it in a few seconds
[19:13] <asac> cool
[19:16] <saivann> asac : I don't think that these translations are really "poor", they "looks" Ok.
[19:16] <asac> yeah
[19:17] <asac> unless we get any feedback on translators list that suggests us to hold back translations until review, I follow the "eat-this" approach and just present them with those translations.
[19:29] <saivann> asac : I'm currently commiting changes to my local branch.. but I'm not sure how I should describe the changes I added to my branch, can you provide me a example?
[19:30] <saivann> Should-I describe the changes like this?
[19:30] <saivann> * <description of the changes>
[19:31] <saivann>    modified : dir/dir/file
[19:31] <saivann>   added : dir/dir/file
 asac, regression checking
 but i need to add a DATE option 1st
[19:36] <saivann> asac : Don't mind, I just found good examples by looking at your own branch
[20:02] <saivann> asac : The branch is here : https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~saivann/ubufox/ubuntu_translations , I will get back to you tomorrow if I get any answers.
[20:18] <asac> saivann: thanks ... will look
[20:20] <saivann> asac : Great thank you!
[20:55] <fta> asac, could you please review/ack bug 206180 ?
[20:55] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 206180 in prism "Please sponsor prism 0.8+svn20071115r8030-0ubuntu3" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/206180
[21:09] <cwong1> asac: sorry.. I am back.  According to the preference, the font is serif and size is 16. I have try using smaller size and I still see the display issue with yahoo.
[21:11] <asac> cwong1: just in midbrowser?
[21:12] <asac> cwong1: maybe its gone in latest xulrunner ... if possible, try to run firefox-3.0 package in the same environment
[21:12] <cwong1> asac: I will try firefox 3.0 but I have the same issue on my desktop
[21:12] <asac> running hardy?
[21:12] <cwong1> no, running on gutsy
[21:13] <cwong1> our internal build of midbrowser runs on Gutsy
[21:13] <asac> which mor button do you refer to ?
[21:13] <cwong1> too
[21:13] <asac> i don't see any out of flow here on latest hardy
[21:13] <asac> (3.0 beta4)
[21:13] <cwong1> in www.yaoo.com there is a "more" button at the top
[21:13] <asac> yes ... that displays in line for me
[21:14] <asac> let me see what happens if i fire up ffox 2
[21:14] <cwong1> What font are you using on hardy?
[21:14] <asac> works well too
[21:14] <asac> i am using the default one in firefox
[21:15] <asac> and the default one in the gnome font preferences afaik
[21:15] <cwong1> what does it say in the preference->content?
[21:15] <asac> serif, serif, sans-serif, monospace
[21:16] <cwong1> and the size?
[21:16] <asac> but those are just generics and are taken from gnome appearence settings
[21:16] <asac> size: 16 and 12
[21:16] <cwong1> hmmm.  do you have a gutsy system that you can try?
[21:17] <asac> nope i can try in chroot though
[21:18] <cwong1> ok  appreciate it if you could... I am fighting a fire here..some big shot from other group want to do a demo in Intel Developer Conference and he want this fix now.. :(
[21:18] <asac> cwong1: indeed
[21:18] <asac> in gutsy chroot its bad
[21:18] <cwong1> any suggestion on what I can do to get this work?
[21:18] <asac> hard to say where the fix stems from though
[21:18] <asac> cwong1: upgrade to hardy :)
[21:18] <cwong1> :):):)
[21:19] <asac> it could be fontconfig
[21:19] <asac> maybe try to backport that
[21:19] <cwong1> fontconfig from gnome applet>?
[21:20] <asac> cwong1: do you link against cairo?
[21:20] <asac> try to backport that first from hardy
[21:20] <asac> cwong1: no the fontconfig package
[21:20] <asac> (Xorg thing)
[21:20] <asac> i think cairo or that one are the most best candidates
[21:20] <cwong1> I think the new build uses the internal cairo
[21:20] <asac> right
[21:21] <asac> but then it might not have been fixed in beta2
[21:22] <asac> the midbrowser i have here works well as well
[21:22] <cwong1> in mozconfig, we dont do --enable-system-cairo anymore?  Should we use system-cairo?
[21:22] <cwong1> midbrowser work on hardy, right?
[21:23] <asac> hmm ... but its built against system xulrunner
[21:23] <asac> cwong1: in gutsy system-cairo is too old
[21:23] <asac> you need to backport cairo first
[21:23] <asac> but then you start the maze and have to upgrade everything so in the end you would end up in hardy i guess :)
[21:24] <asac> cwong1: i have no idea if your midbrowser packages work in hardy here
[21:24] <asac> are there packages i could try?
[21:24] <asac> i just know that the beta 3 merge i have here doesn't expose the rendering on my desktop
[21:24] <asac> s/rendering/rendering issue/
[21:24] <cwong1> I will try it on hardy.  One of my coworker has a hardy image that I can use.
[21:25] <asac> great
[21:25] <asac> if that doesn't work first, try firefox-3.0
[21:25] <asac> if that still doesn't work we have to look closer
[21:25] <cwong1> thanks will catch  you later
[21:25] <asac> sure
[21:36] <fta> asac, you said there was an upload planed for nspluginwrapper for that wakeup issue ?
[22:09] <asac> fta: i think so yes
[22:12] <RainCT> Hey
[22:13] <RainCT> Is it "normal" that Firefox 3 tries to open everything with evince if I click on it from the downloads window? xD
[22:13] <armin76> feature
[22:13] <RainCT> of course ^^
[22:14] <RainCT> armin76: the bug is in evince ;)
[22:14] <armin76> yuck, gnome :P
[22:33] <asac> RainCT: hmm
[22:33] <asac> i don't think its righ
[22:33] <asac> but for me that isn't the case
[22:34] <asac> howver, i am currently unsure if my profile is broken as it doesn't show any applications in the applications preferences dialog
[22:49] <RainCT> asac: mine neither
[22:49] <fta> asac, did you have a look at prism ?
[22:50] <fta> how come bug 206180 doesn't show up in http://people.ubuntu.com/~dholbach/sponsoring/ ?
[22:50] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 206180 in prism "Please sponsor prism 0.8+svn20071115r8030-0ubuntu3" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/206180
[23:12] <fta> http://developer.mozilla.org/devnews/index.php/2008/03/24/firefox-add-on-compatibility-plan-for-addonsmozillaorg/
[23:15] <fta> http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/4438/