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pdragonit came back with: update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.24-12-38600:02
pdragonafter running that00:02
pdragonthat going to help it boot generic?00:02
superm1no it wont....00:02
superm1it needs to update the generic one00:02
superm1use update-initramfs -k VERSION00:03
foxbuntuwild_oscar, just use mythweb and pick something running on TV right now and record it00:04
pdragoni'm doing something dumb. what's the right format to type the kernel version number?00:06
pdragoni tried 2.6.24-12-generic00:07
superm1sudo update-initramfs -k 2.6.24-12-generic -u00:08
superm1works for me00:08
pdragondidn't have the -u after it :p00:08
pdragoncool. going to reboot00:10
superm1best of luck00:12
pdragonwoo! you rule superm1 :D00:15
superm1pdragon, okay leave some notes on the bug :)00:16
pdragonhaving some sound issue now when i change channels. i'll look at that later tho00:16
pdragonwill do00:16
superm1pdragon, keep those on a different bug00:17
pdragonhmm... interesting. picture actually seems clearer on my live tv00:17
pdragonoh i will00:17
superm1that bug is going to get crowded quickly :)00:17
pdragoni'm not even going to worry about the sound thing right now00:17
pdragonwatching recordings works and if i exit out of livetv and go back in the sound is fine00:18
superm1ok00:19
foxbuntusuperm1, thats the same issue I have been having that there is already a bug against iirc00:20
superm1huh?00:20
superm1well so what is this sound issue?00:20
pdragonupdated the bug. thanks again!00:20
foxbuntusometimes the sound is crackly and high pitched, but reseting the stream clears it up00:21
wild_oscarfoxbuntu: only way to record is to schedule it?00:21
foxbuntuwild_oscar, or just watch TV and hit the record button on your remote00:21
wild_oscarfoxbuntu: what's the keyboard command?00:21
wild_oscar(don't have a remote)00:21
foxbuntur?00:22
foxbuntu(Im not sure)00:22
pdragonfoxbuntu: that's exactly what my sound does. the crackly high-pitched thing00:22
pdragonyou have a bug in for that already?00:22
superm1foxbuntu, aren't you using sp/dif?00:22
foxbuntusuperm1, no..just analog audio out00:23
superm1boo00:23
foxbuntuyeah I know00:23
foxbuntuI have issues with my amp though...one of the optical ins is dead00:24
foxbuntuand its more important to me to have the PS3 on it00:24
superm1no coax in?00:25
foxbuntunope00:25
superm1boo+300:25
foxbuntuI know I need a new amp...but the wife wont approve that one right now00:26
superm1even  with all the money you saved not needing another backend?00:26
foxbuntuhaha00:26
* foxbuntu doesn't really want to pull out and rewire his amp either00:27
wilburdudeSo, I installed mythbuntu 8 beta on top of a pre-existing ubuntu 8 install.  I'm trying to optimize it, and I want to remove all the old ubuntu-desktop stuff that I don't need to run a frontend/backend mythbuntu box.00:31
wilburdudeShouldn't I be able to remove gnome?  It appears to be a dependency for mythbuntu.00:31
pdragoni'm slowly upgrading my gaming computer. when i get a new motherboard/cpu i'll be moving it to become my mythtv box. then i can finally do HD and optical audio :)00:31
superm1wilburdude, some things you can remove00:31
superm1some you can't00:31
wilburdudeOk00:32
superm1there are some pieces that are required00:32
wild_oscarwell, i'll leave this for another day!00:32
wild_oscarthanks for the help anyway!00:32
wild_oscarcheers00:32
wilburdudeSo any easy things to knock off that may be killing performance?  I've got a mac mini running 1080p with about 90% success00:33
pdragonfoxbuntu: i wasn't sure... did you say the liirc bug you have in is related to the weird sound?00:33
wilburdudeAnd I just need to edge out a tiny bit more performance to have a really successful mac mini myth box that can handle just about anything.00:33
foxbuntupdragon, no00:33
foxbuntupdragon, I am researching the audio issue00:33
pdragonok00:34
foxbuntupdragon, you using an onboard audio setup?00:34
pdragonyes00:34
foxbuntuas am I00:34
pdragonjust a rather generic onboard 5.1 audio00:34
foxbuntupdragon, sounds like mine :)00:34
pdragonAsRock motherboard00:34
pdragon Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 60)00:36
foxbuntupdragon, try this00:36
foxbuntuopen MCC, Advanced > Enable RTC Video Tweak00:37
foxbuntuapply that and reset mythfrontend00:37
pdragonwill have to later. world of warcraft raid starting now :)00:37
foxbuntulol00:37
foxbuntupdragon, I'll try it later as well00:37
pdragonok00:37
pdragonif you find a fix, send me a tell if you don't mind00:38
foxbuntupdragon, NP00:39
AquahallicEvenin' folks01:54
Aquahallicafter upgrading to hardy I lost my sound on my sound blaster audigy... anyone else seen this problem??01:55
Egghead3running 8.04, trying to get streaming to work in mythweb, anyone got it running or is it broke?02:08
rhpot1991streaming how, via flash?02:14
Egghead3yes02:24
rhpot1991you need ffmpeg with libmp3lame support02:25
rhpot1991ffmpeg --version02:25
Egghead3ahhh that might be the problem02:25
rhpot1991medibuntu repos should have it before hardy goes final02:26
Aquahallicyou should have that from using the medibuntu repositories02:26
rhpot1991as of now they don't02:26
Egghead3i just enable propritory codeacs in myth control02:26
rhpot1991Aquahallic: only in gutsy, not in hardy02:26
rhpot1991their hardy version is old right now02:26
Aquahallicohhhhhhhhh02:26
Aquahallicso how ya get it in hardy??02:26
rhpot1991wait, or do it yourself02:26
Aquahalliccompile it manual??02:27
rhpot1991or maybe I will do it on my PPA if I ever get my devbox back up02:27
Egghead3is there a date to when hardy goes final?02:27
rhpot199132 days02:27
superm1Aquahallic, please make sure you are booted into the generic kernel02:28
rhpot1991they should have it on medibuntu before then, but I can't tell you when02:28
superm1not 38602:28
Egghead3cool, end of april somtime :)02:28
superm1Aquahallic, if you are booted into -386 i need you to notate it on a bug02:28
Egghead3rhpot, thanks02:28
superm1i'll get you the number if so02:28
Aquahallicyeah.. I found that... Egghead3 had same problem.. and I am in 386 kernel...02:28
superm1Aquahallic, bug 18828702:29
Aquahallicwhy's it doing that??? any idea??02:29
rhpot1991np Egghead3, if I get it working I am making a FAQs right now, it will go into that02:29
rhpot1991watch the forums for a sticky02:29
superm1<ubotu> Launchpad bug 188287 in mythbuntu "dependencies installs -386 kernel which hangs on boot" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18828702:29
superm1Aquahallic, not at all your fault02:29
superm1but a very annoying bug02:29
superm1please notate on it subscribe and all that02:29
superm1we need this as a high priority to get fixed02:29
Aquahallicyup.. it is!02:29
Aquahallicborked all KINDS of stuff on my box02:30
Aquahallicsomething must be getting reported back during the install incorrectly02:30
superm1no its not from that02:31
superm1its from the nvidia driver dependencies02:31
Aquahallichey.. superm1: while I have your ear....:)02:31
superm1the issue is detailed on that bug, but hasn't been fixed yet02:31
Aquahallicremember a while back... .you helped me with my ATI card and Compiz with mythtv??02:31
superm1vaguely02:32
AquahallicMy lappy's still on Gutsy but I took the .21 update since my backend went to .2102:32
Aquahallicall my people have blue skin...02:32
superm1ugh02:32
AquahallicI'm watching life sized smurfs02:32
superm1laga, ^02:32
superm1i thought you said that was resolved in 0.21?02:32
Ziroday Hi, I am havig some issues getting vncserver to work, it states that it cannot run on screen 0 because a server is already running there, however when trying to kill vncserver on screen 0 it says that it has no record of vncserver running on screen 002:32
Aquahallicoh and....02:32
superm1Ziroday, 7.10 or 8.04?02:32
AquahallicI'm using the free driver02:32
superm1Aquahallic, if you can use the non-free driver please do so02:33
Zirodaysuperm1: 7.1002:33
superm1Ziroday, its because its started with the x server02:33
superm1Ziroday, to stop it you need to open mcc02:33
AquahallicI tried installing the non-free.. and my compiz went belly up!02:33
superm1and hit disable on the services tab02:33
superm1Aquahallic, you don't use xgl with fglrx02:33
Zirodaysuperm1: okay I will try that then02:33
superm1Aquahallic, dont need to02:33
Aquahalliclost me02:34
Zirodaysuperm1: thanks02:34
superm1Ziroday, you'll have to restart your X server for it to take effect02:34
superm1Ziroday, why doin't you just use the existing vnc server though?02:34
superm1Aquahallic, if you were using xgl, dont need ti02:34
superm1Aquahallic, but like i said if you can do non-free drivers on your card, the issue shouldnt persist02:34
Aquahallicentry in my xorg.conf??02:34
Aquahalliccomment out xgl?02:35
superm1no02:35
superm1remove the package xserver-xgl02:35
superm1if its installed02:35
Aquahallicnoop.. not installed02:36
Aquahallicif I go and enable the non-free driver.... I lose all kinds of stuff... my cube... my awndock02:37
Aquahallicdo I need to go and re-configure all that stuff after I enable the non-free and they'll come back?02:37
superm1Aquahallic, you need the newer fglrx then02:38
Aquahalliccan I get it in a .deb?02:38
superm1it builds .deb's02:39
superm1go to the ati cchtml wiki02:39
Aquahallicany info where I can get it?02:39
superm1explains it all02:39
Aquahallicahh.. k02:39
Aquahallickewl02:39
Aquahallicty02:39
* Aquahallic tired of smurfs... but I can't live without my cube....:)02:39
abarbacci1hows every1 doing02:45
abarbacci1laga: any word on the lirc package from mario?02:45
Egghead3rhpot, is there support for hardy at medibuntu repo? did a search for adding it to apt/source list but cant find anything for hardy02:45
superm1abarbacci1, just got in from out of town this evening.  i'm just about to go through the bugs and see what i cant fix tonight. :)02:46
Egghead3or is that what u where saying , wait a few eeks for then to support hardy02:46
superm1Egghead3, they will be adding in a few weeks "official" support, but mcc will activate where their hardy repo will be02:46
abarbacci1superm1: hey - awesome. let me know if i can help with a solution or explanation of the problem or if you want to explain how to update that package02:46
=== abarbacci1 is now known as abarbaccia
superm1abarbacci1, do you have a particular bug that you are referring to?  there are some 30 odd bugs open right now02:47
Egghead3superm1, cool :)02:47
abarbacciasuperm1: well, the primary problem that i see is that the transmission is broken in 0.8.3pre102:47
Egghead3thanks02:47
superm1abarbaccia, okay are you going to be around for the night?  If I can sort that out, i'll put a testing package out on a ppa you can try02:48
abarbacciasuperm1: ppa?02:48
superm1personal package archive02:48
superm1its like a third party repo02:48
abarbacciasuperm1: very cool. i'm probably not going to be up much longer (EST) but i have access to my machines all day so i can test tomorrow morning, etc02:49
superm1abarbaccia, okay well i'll see what i can find with it, but i'm CST, so hopefully i can make some progress02:49
superm1if you find which patch in lirc cvs it is before me though02:49
superm1by all means pass it this way02:50
abarbacciasuperm1: i'm confused why you look for a patch and not switching the source to a more recent version...maybe its something about packaging i don't understand02:50
superm1abarbaccia, well at this point in the cycle its too late to switch to a "whole" new checkout02:50
asmytheI want to connect two tuner cards to on sound card02:51
superm1because we dont know what issues would be introduced for other drivers02:51
superm1its called a "feature freeze"02:51
asmytheI want to connect two tuner cards to one sound card02:51
abarbacciasuperm1: gotcha. lets say you can't find the patch - any way to push past the freeze or is it pretty strict?02:51
superm1abarbaccia, i'd actually be really suspicisious its this one http://lirc.cvs.sourceforge.net/lirc/lirc/drivers/lirc_serial/lirc_serial.c?r1=5.86&r2=5.8702:51
superm1abarbaccia, do you have a hardy system handy right now?02:52
superm1i can tell you how to apply it and give it a shot locally quickly02:52
abarbacciasuperm1: yes02:52
superm1abarbaccia, okay great.  install lirc-modules-source.02:52
superm1inside /usr/src/ a directory will get made that contains the lirc kernel module source tree02:53
abarbacciaits building...02:53
abarbacciak02:54
superm1it will build once, you apply your patch, and then you'll have to manually issue a rebuild02:54
superm1to rebuild it will be something like "dkms build -m lirc -v 0.8.3~pre1 -k 2.6.24-12-generic --force02:56
superm1which will put together a deb of the new modules02:56
superm1that you can install02:56
asmytheplease help me install two tuners02:58
abarbacciaokay, how do i apply the patch?02:58
Egghead3after upgrade to .21, i now get an audio stream changed02:59
superm1abarbaccia, so you save that as a "patch"02:59
superm1and then its patch -p0 < file.patch02:59
Egghead3error in mythfrontend log02:59
superm1or patch -p1 < file.patch02:59
superm1depends on the patch level02:59
abarbacciasuperm1: that patch is already applied.03:00
superm1well that's less interesting03:00
superm1the only other patch after it in CVS is some cleanup stuff03:01
superm1for ending spaces03:01
superm1and curly brace placement03:01
superm1abarbaccia, okay this one looks like it hasn't been applied yet03:02
superm1http://lirc.cvs.sourceforge.net/lirc/lirc/drivers/lirc_dev/lirc_dev.c?r1=1.55&r2=1.5603:02
superm1and is relevant to 2.6.23+03:02
abarbacciasuperm1: in the bug i filed i think i mentioned how i thought it was not just hte lirc_serial module03:02
superm1and still a kernel module03:02
superm1lirc_dev03:02
superm1which is used03:02
superm1paired with http://lirc.cvs.sourceforge.net/lirc/lirc/drivers/lirc_dev/lirc_dev.h?r1=1.21&r2=1.2203:03
abarbacciapatch them both?03:04
superm1yes03:05
superm1they were paired together as patches03:05
abarbacciasuperm1: okay, i just patched the files. trying to build...03:05
abarbacciasuperm1: i have to do a dkms remove first?03:06
superm1abarbaccia, i'm not sure to be honest.  you may or may not need to :)03:06
superm1try not doing it03:06
superm1and if it complains then do it03:06
abarbacciait told me i need to03:06
abarbacciahaha03:06
superm1dkms is just used for local module builds.  the kernel modules end up in the linux-ubuntu-modules package for mainline builds03:07
abarbacciaDKMS tree does not contain: lirc-0.8.3~pre103:07
superm1you need to dkms add i believe03:07
superm1that stuff is handled for the first build, i didnt think you really had to remove it though03:08
abarbacciasuperm1: this is all above me right now, but its building03:08
superm1i thought it would just rebuild if you asked03:08
abarbacciabuild completed.03:08
superm1abarbaccia, okay well so that will spit out a deb in /usr/src03:08
superm1install it03:08
abarbacciaerr...no de03:08
superm1and then rmmod lirc_dev and lirc_serial03:08
abarbacciab03:08
superm1sure?03:09
abarbacciayep03:09
superm1okay then dkms install03:09
superm1will do it03:09
abarbacciaor mkdeb03:09
superm1more likely dkms install -m lirc -v 0.8.3~pre1 -k 2.6.24-12-generic03:09
superm1or something similar03:09
npurcifulhey whats up superm103:10
superm1you should take down some notes for this and put them on the lirc wiki page i think :)03:10
superm1hi npurciful03:10
npurcifulerr, fighting my hdhomerun03:11
superm1npurciful, that's never fun03:11
superm1you shouldn't do that03:11
npurcifulit is really the mythtv channel scan, i get on channel to work and the other one doesnt03:12
superm1on 0.21?03:12
superm1the scanner is improved...03:12
npurcifulyeah i using .02103:13
npurciful.2103:13
superm1well there is always crying then :)03:13
Egghead3after upgrade to .21, i get an 'audio stream changed' error in my mythfrontend log, and ideas fixes?03:13
superm1or if you get a backtrace, you can throw that our way03:13
superm1do you by chance?03:13
npurcifulgot channel 9.1 to work and know 4.1 doesnt03:14
npurcifulno i dont03:14
superm1i'm surprised the *scanner* would be what goes down03:14
superm1usually its during playback03:14
superm1you're on the latest firmware i'm assuming right?03:14
npurcifulyeah, i have done the scan with hdhr_config scan03:16
npurcifulit fined all the channels03:16
superm1can you export that to a channels.conf by chance?03:17
abarbacciasuperm1: im taking some notes -- but basically i compiled the package and installed it. rebooting the system since the modules weren't playing nice with the unload...03:17
superm1abarbaccia, you have a cvs compile still on the system?03:17
superm1like a full checkout i mean03:17
abarbacciano03:17
superm1okay good03:17
abarbacciathis is a fresh install, just now with this package installed also03:18
abarbacciashould i be removing the lirc package?03:18
abarbacciathats provided by mythbuntu03:18
npurcifulthat is what i was trying to figure out is how to convert the hdhr scan to channel.conf03:19
MythbuntuGuest40ata1.0003:19
superm1abarbaccia, no you shouldn't03:21
superm1these modules should take precedence automatically03:21
superm1and they were provided from linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24-12-generic anyway03:21
superm1so that wouldn't change anything03:21
abarbacciasuperm1: okay, then we have no success.03:23
mcquaiddoes mythbuntu gutsy rep have different dependencies that ubuntu hardy beta's own rep of .21?03:24
mcquaidcause when I go to install mythweb on my gutsy box thta is using your sources, it doesn't flag anything for install as deps03:24
mcquaidbut on my hardy beta box, trying to install mythweb flags apache for install03:25
abarbacciasuperm1: actually, let me test something else out here quick.03:26
superm1abarbaccia, ok03:27
abarbacciasuperm1: my cable box wasn't responding. but when i put the blaster up against a usb receiver - it blinked saying it was getting some sort of signal (maybe malformed). i'm testing with hte old module to see if that makes it blink03:28
Aquahallicsuperm1: I edited my menu.lst to boot into generic kernel.. and it just sat on the splash screen with the bar going back and forth for a longtime.. and now it's saying something about busybox03:30
superm1abarbaccia, is this an improvement over before that some signal is sent then albeit possibly malformed?03:30
superm1Aquahallic, there is something on that bug for what to do03:30
superm1about update-initramfs03:31
abarbacciasuperm1: just tested. packets are being sent but malformed in both the newly built, and the old package03:32
abarbacciacan we see a list of the patches from pre1 to cvs somehow03:32
superm1abarbaccia, i fear i've run into this before too03:32
superm1abarbaccia, like 2-3 years ago03:32
abarbacciasuperm1: oh boy. that is never good.03:32
superm1abarbaccia, and it was never resolved03:32
superm1i switched away from serial03:33
superm1http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=37387103:33
abarbacciasuperm1: i have lirc working on an ubuntu box configured from source03:33
superm1abarbaccia, well that is quite re-assuring...03:33
superm1as for seeing all patches from CVS then to now, not easily.  this isn't bzr or git or anything smart like that :)03:34
superm1abarbaccia, how did you make sure you loaded the old modules vs the new ones?03:34
superm1abarbaccia, the other thing that i may not have notated in that bug..03:35
superm1abarbaccia, i was able to take a nonfunctional lirc blasting computer, take its hard drive out, thrwo it in another, move my blaster over03:35
superm1and it worked03:35
superm1but the fact that this works with a CVS checkout makes me rather uneasy.03:36
abarbacciasuperm1: these are the machines i sell and i have serial blasters working from compiled source on ~65 of them03:37
npurcifulerr i think i am going to do a scan with my dvb card to export to channel.conf03:37
* superm1 shrugs03:38
superm1hm03:38
abarbacciaso the hardware is tested. also, i ran into the same problem on gutsy. a compile from cvs fixed the issues03:38
superm1abarbaccia, okay well lets do this.  i'll make a build on a ppa with all the debs03:38
superm1abarbaccia, with the latest checkout03:38
abarbacciasuperm1: you beat me to it-  i was just oging to suggest that03:38
superm1it won't be done building until about an hour or two from now03:39
superm1so you can try tomorrowm ornign03:39
abarbacciasounds like tomorrow morning for me03:39
superm1it it sorts things out for you i'll see what we can do about putting it directly in03:39
abarbacciayou have my email - so if you can give me brief directions on how to checkout i should be able to handle it form there.03:39
superm1if it doesn't then i'm at quite a loss03:39
superm1it is a bunch of debs03:39
abarbacciasuperm1: i'll give up at that point too03:39
superm1so it should be pretty straightforward03:39
superm1i'll shoot you an email before i head to bed03:40
abarbacciaoh, okay. then just the link is all i need. please email it so i have a copy when i'm at work (and don't have to dig through these logs)03:40
superm1and we'll go from there03:40
abarbacciasounds great! thanks for helpin out here. nite.03:40
superm1yup nite03:40
npurcifulsuperm1: i hooked up my pchdtv 5500 card and did a scan and it picked up all the stations04:00
superm1npurciful, well you can share the results of that scan across tuners04:00
npurcifulyeah, that is what i did, kinda frustration though04:01
superm1understandable04:01
npurcifulif you could convert hdhr_config scan /tuner0 channels.conf to something myth could read that would be great04:02
superm1does that spit out a channels.conf in std format?04:04
superm1or something that looks close to standard?04:04
npurcifulno really i will pastebin it04:07
npurcifulno = not04:08
npurcifulsuperm1: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6029/04:10
superm1yeah that's hardly useful04:10
superm1that looks more like a log04:10
superm1than a channels.conf04:10
npurcifulyeah04:10
npurcifulhey has anyone used or herd about the Western Digital Green Power drives preformance as a mythtv drive?04:18
npurcifulI ask because best buy (ugh) has them for a 100$ and my seagate i just bought die in 2 days RMA though and the Seagate was loud04:19
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=== superm1 changed the topic of #ubuntu-mythtv to: Welcome to #ubuntu-mythtv :: MythTV 0.21 is released in gutsy-backports and Hardy. Please see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=733607 for FAQs related to the upgrade :: Mythbuntu 7.10 Released :: Mythbuntu 8.04 Beta released. :: See our website at http://www.mythbuntu.org for release and support information :: Paste logs @ http://pastebin.ubuntu.com
sigma_1234does the chronos video shuttle 2 tv card work in mythbuntu?05:47
sshirleyhow do i run an application (like the MythFlix scripts) as user mythtv?06:25
superm1sshirley, sudo su mythtv -c blah06:33
sshirleyThanks!06:34
killazhi guys10:27
killazI'm installing mythbuntu on my system now...10:28
killazdoes it always take so long?10:29
killazI mean after the OK-list it jumps into a blackscreen... I can'y see anything now..10:29
killazI'm installing mythbuntu 8.04.10:30
killazI'm giving... think I'm going for the 7.1010:31
killazcan anyone help me...11:07
killazI'm having some trouble installing mythbuntu11:08
AquahallicMornin' folks12:39
AquahallicI did the Hardy upgrade... then I had that problem with it booting into 386 kernel us I went and changed it in my menu.lst to boot into generic kernel... now all I can get is BusyBox at top of screen and initramfs prompt... anyone seen this?12:40
lagaAquahallic: yes.14:24
lagaAquahallic: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/18828714:24
mcquaidi'm trying to find on the mythbuntu website the reps taht actually exist.  there's 20.2 for gutsy and there's a weekly build of truck, but where's .21 final?14:59
rhpot1991_laptopmcquaid: in the backports14:59
mcquaidin ubuntu backports? they don't have .21 do they? and i also have a hardy beta box15:00
lagamcquaid: gutsy-backports has 0.2115:00
mcquaidbasically is there a page at mythbuntu.org that's lists the reps it has15:00
rhpot1991_laptopthe hardy beta should have 0.21 already15:00
mcquaidyes hardy does have beta .2115:01
rhpot1991_laptopwhat are you looking for then?15:01
mcquaidbut there are other reasons i'm asking.  for example hardy beta flags apache as a dep when installing mythweb, mythbuntu doesn't15:01
mcquaidi use lighttp and it kind of annoys me that it's forcing apache15:01
mcquaidi thought i read that you also have a stable .21 rep15:02
rhpot1991_laptoplighthttp support is in the works as far as I know, but not done yet15:02
mcquaidjust wanted to confirm what actually repositories mythbuntu has15:02
lagaodd.15:02
lagamcquaid: mythbuntu uses the ubuntu repositories.15:02
lagamcquaid: um..15:02
lagalet's take a look at the dependencies of mythweb:15:02
lagaDepends: apache2 | httpd15:02
lagai assume "httpd" is some kind of virtual dependency..15:03
foxbuntumcquaid, the depends change is coming but not there yet. I am the owner of the blueprint for lighty on mythbunut and working on it (slowly)15:04
lagaapache2-mpm-worker provides httpd...15:04
mcquaidi can only think httpd is lighttp15:04
lagamcquaid: the lighttpd also 'provides' httpd, so i dont know why it would be failing?15:04
mcquaidit doesn't fail with you rep.  it's hardy's rep that insists on apache15:05
lagasigh15:05
lagawe use "hardy's rep"15:05
lagabut it's not the first time i've heard about cases where the virtual dependency is failing15:06
rhpot1991_laptopI think he is talking about mythbuntu 7.115:06
mcquaidwell, i just realized going through my sources.list that i added http://uk.weeklybuilds.mythbuntu.org/mythbuntu-trunk/ubuntu15:06
lagarhpot1991_laptop: 0.21 on hardy still shouldn't insist on installing apache if lighttpd is already installed15:06
mcquaidin my gutsy box.  so that's your own rep no? your not grabing snapshots for truck from hardy15:06
lagamcquaid: was lighthttpd already installed on that box?15:06
mcquaidyes15:06
rhpot1991_laptoplaga: I'm still confused as to what is what, he seemed to indicate he was at 0.20.2 on gutsy15:07
mcquaidno i'm using .21 hardy. on gutsy i upgraded to .21 using your truck rep. not realizing it was available from backports15:07
lagamcquaid: ghe gutsy-backports is the one you should be using.. the trunk repositority will get really unstable soon :)15:08
mcquaidso i just wanted to confirm your reps and i'll probably switch back to backports on this gutsy box just to keep it in sync with the backend15:08
lagabut right now, i think it still has 0.2115:08
mcquaidya i figure so ;) didn't even notcie i was using trunk15:08
lagamcquaid: heh15:08
mcquaidya the file versions just seem to be .2115:08
lagamcquaid: you can reproduce that problem with mythweb?15:08
mcquaidyep one sec15:09
mcquaidhttp://www.pastebin.ca/95530415:13
mcquaidi wanted to show in there i have lighttp installed, forgot how to show a pkg is installed15:13
rhpot1991_laptopdpkg -l <package> |grep ^ii15:13
lagamcquaid: can you also show me apt-cache show lighttpd and apt-cache show mythweb15:14
mcquaidyep15:14
lagause apt-cache policy lighttpd15:14
lagato find out if a package is installed15:14
mcquaidok15:14
mcquaidso you want policy or show? or both?15:14
lagaall of them, it cant hurt ;)15:15
mcquaidok15:17
mcquaidhttp://www.pastebin.ca/95531215:18
mcquaidi noticed on gutsy (which didn't require apache, the one using your trunk rep) it asked me if i wanted to configure security.  I don't know if this part is geared toward security for apache and not necessarily lighttp15:19
mcquaidsorry config security during mythweb install15:19
lagait's geared towards apache.15:20
lagamcquaid: do you hae php4 or php5 installed?15:20
lagafor your lighttpd?15:20
foxbuntulaga, I think you can only use php5 to make it work properly with lightty15:21
mcquaidi do on gutsy, not on hardy15:22
mcquaidthought i had on both, so if i install php5 it'll satisfy the dep?15:22
lagamcquaid: yeah, i think so.15:22
lagafoxbuntu: i'm not sure if php4 will work with mythweb15:22
mcquaidall the question about mythweb asking if you want it secure.  i would like that but suspect it's doing something maybe exclusively for apache15:22
lagamcquaid: exclusively for apache, yes.15:23
foxbuntumcquaid, the security is for apache, but it will be for lighty as well when the build is complete15:23
lagawe haven't gotten around to making it work for lighttpd15:23
mcquaidok15:23
mcquaidis it somewhat easy to apply after the fact? i guess i'll read about security with lighttpd, most articles are geared towards apache15:24
foxbuntumcquaid, its much the same as apache15:24
mcquaidok15:24
mcquaidhmm, on my gutsy box i have nothing apache but php5 installed. on hardy i flagged php5 for install and it flags apache as a dep15:28
mcquaidok deps must have changed. on my gutsy box i don't have apache, but there is an update available in gutsy for php5. if i flag the upgrade it wants to install apache15:29
lagaflag?15:34
lagajust *install* php5 and then, in a separate run, try to install mythweb15:34
mcquaidsorry shouldn't have used flag twice.  i manually checked php5 install on the hardy box and it flags apache15:38
MrUnagican someone help me with figuring out the differences to the front in and backend and all that lingo =/15:38
mcquaidit does the same thing on my gutsy box if i indicate to upgrade php5, i guess there's a new version in gutsy updates that i never grabbed15:39
lagaMrUnagi: http://wiki.mythtv.org15:39
mcquaidbut previously i must have installed php5 on my gutsy box, and i have no apache stuff installed15:39
mcquaidso it seems to be an added dep15:40
lagadude, what does "flag" mean?15:40
mcquaidheh.  what i mean by that is if in aptget/synaptic i say install php5 its states (or flags) apache as a dep15:41
lagaah15:41
lagathat's weird15:41
mcquaidit obviously didn't at one point in gutsy as i have php5 but no apache at all, but it's upgrade 'flags' the same deps now as hardy15:42
lagamcquaid: find out what lighttpd uses for php.. maybe php5-cgi15:42
lagaonce php5-cgi is installed15:42
lagayou can install php515:42
mcquaidok i'll try that15:42
mcquaidheh that worked15:44
mcquaidif this works then, i guess apache is a suggests and not a depends.  i remember way back when there was a way in synaptic not to flag suggests only deps15:44
weiserIs it possielbel to use the buildin IR port on my laptop as a receiver fore my remote control?15:46
Tuv0k!ir15:51
ubotu#ubuntu-ir baraye Farsi zabanan mibashad ke channele rasmie goroohe Iran-ie ubuntu ast. #ubuntu-ir  برای فارسی زبانان می‌باشد که کانال رسمی گروه ایرانی اوبونتو است.15:51
Tuv0k!remote15:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about remote - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi15:51
Tuv0k:(15:52
Tuv0k!lirc15:52
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lirc - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi15:52
Tuv0kweiser, http://www.lirc.org/irda.html15:52
pdragonwth was that15:52
rhpot1991_laptopweiser: in theory sure, but you would need to do some research and find out what that device is and if it can work with lirc15:53
rhpot1991_laptopif it does you can do things like sudo cat /dev/lirc0/ to see if it gets anything from your remote15:54
weiserhmm I do have /dev/lircd so there migth be a change16:00
mkargar_how to changing mythtv interface font's?(default size is very large!!)16:02
foxbuntumkargar_, Utils/Settings > Setup > Appearance > 3 page or so16:04
mkargar_very thx16:06
Bricehi16:14
Bricehas anyone installed mythbuntu on a htpc (zenega) ?16:16
lagaBrice: not enough memory.16:16
lagaBrice: 128M (s100) would work if you instaleld ubuntu-mythtv-frontend instead of the xfce stuff16:16
Bricedo you have a howto maybe?16:17
lagano.16:18
Bricebecause at the moment i am using the Zendeb (Debian derivate) on the S100, and the VDR does not work with my dvb-t card16:18
lagathe zenega wiki has a howto to get ubuntu working on the s100, i'd use that.16:18
Bricebut the wiki is poor16:18
lagaBrice: you'll be low on memory if you try to run a mythbackend on there as well16:19
Bricehmm, are you german?16:19
lagai've never tried it, but i dont expect it to be working very well..16:19
lagayes16:19
Briceok, also welches distribution verwendest du auf der s100?16:20
Brice-s16:20
lagaBrice: this is a english channel16:20
Bricequerry?16:20
lagai still use ubuntu feisty16:20
lagano, i'm busy16:20
Briceok16:20
lagaBrice: have you tried zenslack?16:21
Briceyeah, but zenslack is old. Zendeb is running nearly perfectly, wlan and everything works, only the Twinhan DVB-T does not16:22
Bricesry for carp english16:22
Bricecrap16:22
NikasSo, i asked it mythtv-users without answer. I can see this when watching live tv: "Encoder 8 is local on mythtv and is watching Live TV: 'OC' on Kanal 5. This recording will end at 17:05." It's 17:21 here now but mythtv continues to record live tv to ONE BIG file with the show name "OC". I'm using .21 and have not had this problem before. Every show should be recorded in live tv mode in different recordings.16:22
Nikasdifferent files i mean. Now it records to one big file with the show name that was on when i started watching16:23
Nikasso, any clues?16:24
lagaBrice: your english is just fine :)16:24
Bricelaga: have you got a howto for dvb-installation?16:26
lagaBrice: i doubt 128M will be enough to run mythbackend and mythfrontend on one computer.. although i seem to remember that i still have some free memory. but if you have to run the msql server on the s100 as well, then it won't be enough.16:26
lagaBrice: depends.. for what?16:27
Bricefor VDR... or do you mean which device?16:27
lagaBrice: this is #ubuntu-mythtv.. it's unlikely you'll find somewhere in here who can give you advice on VDR :) www.vdr-portal.de is a great community, though16:29
killazhey guys17:09
killazCan one of you help installing an XMLTV grabber for mythtv17:09
mcquaid_trying to setup mythweb with lighttp. i modified lighttpd conf to point to mythtv and get this restarting lighttp:17:15
mcquaid_base-docroot doesn't exist: /var/www/mythtv/17:15
mcquaid_google's not providing much on that17:15
foxbuntumcquaid_, follow the wiki for mythweb on lighttpd17:21
mcquaid_ok i'll look at that17:21
mcquaid_hmm, the fastcgi.server portion with the database details, does that matter where it goes in lighttpd.conf?17:30
rhpot1991_laptopkillaz: sudo apt-get install xmltv17:50
MythbuntuGuest77Is there anyway to have a direct conversation with the main developers of Mythbutu?17:55
lagaMythbuntuGuest77: depends.17:56
lagado you know voodoo?17:56
mcquaid_damn, not having much luck with lighttpd, i think i'll give in and try apache17:57
lagaMythbuntuGuest77: there's #ubuntu-mythtv-dev17:59
MythbuntuGuest55Hello can someone help me18:16
killazrhpot1991: I'm going to try that18:16
MythbuntuGuest55my problem is, i have update mythbuntu automaticly, but now i cant access to the videos not with the frontend18:16
MythbuntuGuest55thanks18:16
MythbuntuGuest55and over the web interface when i try opend the video database it says Could not create a symlink to /var/lib/mythtv/videos, the local18:17
MythbuntuGuest55do you have an idear?18:18
killazrhpot1991: the problem is when I go to the spurce I'm expecting to see the grabber in the list. Now I only see the SD, EIT and No grabber.... when MythTV search for XMLTV grabbers it doesnt find anything18:18
rhpot1991_laptopMythbuntuGuest55: see the faqs in the topic18:19
rhpot1991_laptopkillaz: never used xmltv, sorry18:20
MythbuntuGuest55i try to lock... thanks18:21
MythbuntuGuest55thanks in frontend now it works, but in web interface the same problem18:27
rhpot1991_laptop your symlinks are off18:28
rhpot1991_laptopit says in the faqs18:28
MythbuntuGuest55mhh i search, again18:29
killazrhpot1991: ok no problem..... going to try on another channel... maybe someone there can help me.18:32
rhpot1991_laptopkillaz: you can check #mythtv-users, prob better odds there18:32
killazrhpot1991: yup trying there hopefully someone knows the solution for this problem... because MythTV without an EPG is like a car without seats18:33
MythbuntuGuest55oh ok i have found and look with mc in the directory.... there are 3 red ! music video and covers but how can i fix it?18:34
rhpot1991_laptoppoint them at the real locations18:35
rhpot1991_laptopdelete the old (sudo rm <link>)18:35
rhpot1991_laptopand make a new (sudo ln -s <place to point at> <link>) do a man ln and check that I did the order right18:35
MythbuntuGuest55its the original place in videos18:36
MythbuntuGuest55its corct? sudo lb -s /var/lib/mythtv/videos video18:41
rhpot1991_laptopln -s18:41
MythbuntuGuest55oh ok typeerror18:41
rhpot1991_laptopif that order is right then sure18:41
rhpot1991_laptopI always mix up the order, so18:41
MythbuntuGuest55i have typed but the errorr is still there18:47
MythbuntuGuest55oh sorry now it says symlinc to covers.... sorry i edit18:48
rhpot1991_laptopdo the covers too18:50
MythbuntuGuest55mutch thanks now it works finde18:54
rhpot1991_laptopnp18:56
=== foxbuntu is now known as Joe_Sawnson
mcquaid__i'd rather have my mythtv user be able to login.  is it only because the mythtv user's id is below 1000 that prevents him from logging in?20:02
mcquaid__sigh i mean login to X20:02
MythbuntuGuest64I have lost the icons and text on the OSD,  change the theme in the database and only the background shows up.  Any ideas how to fix?20:16
Joe_SawnsonMythbuntuGuest64, it sounds like you are having PaintEngine issues20:39
Joe_SawnsonMythbuntuGuest64, try running mythfrontend from the terminal like this: mythfrontend -O ThemePainter=OpenGL (Uppercase O is important)20:42
Joe_SawnsonMythbuntuGuest64, if that doesn't work try this: mythfrontend -O ThemePainter=QT20:42
mcquaidi setup a password when installing mythweb, but i'm never asked for my pass when i go to localhost/mythweb21:09
mcquaidusing apache21:10
lagamcquaid: what version of mythweb?21:14
mcquaid.2121:14
lagamcquaid: from gutsy?21:14
mcquaidhardy beta21:15
lagawhat version exactly?21:15
mcquaid0.21.0-0-ubuntu321:15
mcquaidsorry it's not that i just don't get the pass screen, it show access denied for db21:16
lagamcquaid: are you sure that lighttpd isn't running anymore?21:16
lagaah21:16
lagaok..21:16
mcquaidthe db connection settings look fine in mythweb.conf.apache21:18
mcquaidi changed it from localhost to it's ip but same thing21:18
lagamcquaid: it's configured in /etc/apache2/sites-available21:19
lagait should be working automagically, though. do you see what's wrong in that file?21:19
mcquaidsites-available looks the exact same, except it's still localhost21:20
mcquaidno one sec21:20
mcquaidyeah the pass wasn't set it /etc/apache2/sites-available21:21
mcquaidgot in now. ok so my issue is the login21:22
lagamcquaid: can you post the stuff from line thirty to fifty from /etc/apache2/sites-available/mythweb.conf?21:26
mcquaidok21:26
mcquaid_laga, http://www.pastebin.ca/95581421:28
lagamcquaid_: run sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythweb21:31
lagaanswer 'yes', enter your user name and password21:31
lagarepeat one more time21:31
mcquaidok21:31
lagai need to adjust the damn regular expression...21:32
mcquaid_same thing.  it's kicks in an apache restart, don't think it's related but i get this apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName21:36
mcquaid_i had to change the pass again in sites-available but that's all i changed21:37
lagamcquaid_: does that section still look the same?21:37
mcquaid_one sec21:37
mcquaid_yep looks the same21:39
lagathat's very, very odd.21:39
mcquaid_http://www.pastebin.ca/95583921:40
lagamcquaid_: did you do it (dpkg-reconfigure mythweb) twice?21:40
mcquaid_do it twice? once just now. previously i did it when i first installed mythweb through synaptic21:41
lagayou need to do it again21:42
lagato remove the second level of #21:42
lagaso it takes effect21:42
mcquaidah ok21:42
mcquaidbingo. that worked!21:44
mcquaidthx21:44
lagagreat21:44
mcquaiddid it fail via synaptic because i previously had lighttp installed?21:45
lagano21:45
lagait failed because i broke it ;)21:45
mcquaidah21:46
mcquaid;)21:46
mcquaid_hmm, i want to try this flash streaming (even though it's experimental)  needs ffpmeg with mp3 support.21:57
mcquaid_usually i get that from mediubntu21:57
mcquaid_do mythbuntu reps provide a ffmpeg with mp3?21:57
rhpot1991only for gutsy currently21:58
rhpot1991their hardy ffmpeg is behind21:58
mcquaidyeah just checked :(21:59
mcquaidi was hoping they'd have a hardy rep setup by the beta22:00
rhpot1991they do22:00
rhpot1991but its not done yet22:00
mcquaidah, i wsa just going by here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu22:00
mcquaidis there mention fo that anywhere? regarding hardy and medibuntu22:03
mcquaid?22:03
rhpot1991reguarding what, that they are doing one, or that ffmpeg doesn't work in it?22:04
mcquaidjust maybe a mention of the status of the hardy one. i was curious if they were doing a pre release or waiting till final22:04
mcquaidi guess somewhere i could check later22:04
rhpot1991I asked them to bump it, they told me it would be done before the hardy release22:05
rhpot1991I put words in the FAQs about it22:05
mcquaid_ah ok22:05
mcquaidone last thing.  i noticed my mythtv user on the box with the backend can't login to X.  I believe it's because mythtv's userid is below 1000?22:06
mcquaidiis that the case, or is there any other thing that prevents mythtv from logging in?22:07
rhpot1991not entirely sure there, you can sudo su mythtv at a terminal if you want to run things as it22:07
lagamcquaid: you shouldn't run anything as "mythtv"22:08
lagathat's entirely unsupported22:08
lagaonly the backend runs as "mythtv"22:08
lagaeverything else is done as your normal user22:08
mcquaid_ok.22:08
rhpot1991laga: any bright ideas how I can modify a file that my user doesn't have rights to while sudo is busted?22:09
rhpot1991besides booting a live cd22:09
lagarhpot1991: local root exploits? ;)22:10
rhpot1991upgrade busted my /etc/hosts so now I can't sudo22:11
rhpot1991kinda need sudo to fix it :(22:11
lagaawesome :/22:11
lagarhpot1991: you can boot into init=/bin/bash22:11
rhpot1991if I am rebooting I can just use a live cd to do it22:11
lagajust add that to menu entry in grub22:11
lagatrue :>22:11
rhpot1991gonna see if the alternate cd detects my raid card I guess22:14
=== Joe_Sawnson is now known as Peter_Griffin
rhpot1991Peter_Griffin: with great mustache comes great responsibility22:32
* Peter_Griffin rushes into the burning building22:33
Peter_GriffinGAA!! My Mustache!22:33
lagawhat the hell22:35
rhpot1991heh22:35
rhpot1991stroke! stroke! stroke!22:36
Peter_GriffinHi laga can you help me?22:45
Peter_Griffintgm4883, told me you could22:45
rhpot1991anyone see any NVP: prebuffering pause in their frontend logs?22:46
lagaPeter_Griffin: he was probably lying. what do you need to know?22:47
lagarhpot1991: that can mean anything.. check wiki.mythtv.org22:47
Peter_Griffinwith diskless can I use a dhcpd server on a seperate network vlan?22:47
lagaPeter_Griffin: i have no clue. :)22:48
lagaif you insist on using vlans, you gotta know how to handle them :)22:48
Peter_Griffinlaga, will webmin work with diskless?22:49
lagaPeter_Griffin: i don't know22:49
lagai havent used webmin in years22:49
rhpot1991laga: not much good on the wiki, already looked, and I can't find any decent info other than "me too"22:49
rhpot1991on the mailing list22:49
rhpot1991guess I'll wait till my wife is done watching and mess with the playback profiles22:49
lagarhpot1991: try with mythfrontend -v playback ...22:49
lagaor -v important,general,playback,audio22:49
rhpot1991alright, I'll try that after she is done22:50
rhpot1991they are local files, so it should be ok, and the cpu is only hitting 40-50%22:50
Peter_Griffinlaga, do you know what "RTC Video Tweak" is in mythbuntu control centre?22:50
lagaPeter_Griffin: if you move your mouse over the entries, you get a popup with a help text22:51
Peter_Griffinah22:52
Peter_Griffinjust saw that22:52
* laga stabs the crap out of Peter_Griffin 22:52
Peter_Griffinlmao22:52
Peter_Griffinwhat what that for?22:52
rhpot1991we got another stabber22:52
lagayou're foxbuntu ;)22:52
Peter_Griffinno im not22:52
Peter_GriffinIm Peter Griffin22:52
lagaheh22:53
Peter_Griffinlaga, joe clevland brain and I are headed down to the clam for a drink, you in?22:53
* laga sends Peter_Griffin to the mental asylum22:54
* Peter_Griffin escapes22:54
=== Peter_Griffin is now known as foxbuntu
foxbuntuhey laga Peter_Griffin told me you suck22:57
lagadid he also tell you to stop eating those mushrooms?22:57
foxbuntubut22:58
foxbuntubut22:58
foxbuntubut22:58
foxbuntuI like the pretty colors22:58
lagaheh22:59
TelnetMantaAnyone here familiar with DVB-S and Myth23:07
TelnetManta?23:07
bobcallaway__is anyone familiar with installing cx88-alsa drivers23:09
Cackettehey laga,y ou around?23:35
lagaCackette: yup23:38
Cackettewhat do you recommend i do23:40
Cacketteabout yesterday23:40
KillerKiwi2005_TelnetManta: Ive set that up once23:40
Cackettesince we got the HD and SD videos to work in mplayer w/ x1123:40
lagaCackette: i suggest you make sure that your video drivers are working correctly23:42
Cackettehow do i do that?23:42
Cackettei'm running the nvidia restricted driver23:42
lagaCackette: post in the forums and provide /var/log/Xorg.0.log, the output of 'xvinfo'.. and the output of 'glxinfo' while you're at it23:43
lagai'm gonna look at it in a few minutes or tomorrow, gotta run right now23:43
Cacketteok23:44
Cacketteits possible to shh into it and do all this from a windows box, right?23:46
lagaCackette: yes23:54
Cackettehrmm, neither xvinfo or glxinfo work23:55
lagaah23:55
lagaright23:55
Cackettehtpc@htpc:~$ xvinfo23:55
Cackettexvinfo:  Unable to open display23:55
lagayou need to run them like this:23:55
lagaDISPLAY=:0 xvinfo23:55
Cacketteand how do i post all 580 lines of xorg.0.log23:55
lagaCackette: you can download it using sftp.. or open a web browser on your mythbuntu box23:56
Cackettei tried to connect to the box via FTP23:56
Cackettebut it denied the connection23:56
lagayeah, sftp works over ssh23:56
Cacketteoh?23:56
Cackettedetails?23:56
lagaCackette:  dont know how to use sftp from windows23:57
Cacketteoh23:57
Cackettemight as well just upload them to my fileserver from the mythbox23:57
Cackettebrb23:57
Egghead3after upgrade to .21, i get a flood of 'audio stream changed' errors in my mythfrontend log, and ideas whats causing this?23:58
TelnetMantaAnyone else have trouble with channel scanner in .21?????23:59
TelnetMantasegfaults all over the place23:59

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