[00:02] it came back with: update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.24-12-386 [00:02] after running that [00:02] that going to help it boot generic? [00:02] no it wont.... [00:02] it needs to update the generic one [00:03] use update-initramfs -k VERSION [00:04] wild_oscar, just use mythweb and pick something running on TV right now and record it [00:06] i'm doing something dumb. what's the right format to type the kernel version number? [00:07] i tried 2.6.24-12-generic [00:08] sudo update-initramfs -k 2.6.24-12-generic -u [00:08] works for me [00:08] didn't have the -u after it :p [00:10] cool. going to reboot [00:12] best of luck [00:15] woo! you rule superm1 :D [00:16] pdragon, okay leave some notes on the bug :) [00:16] having some sound issue now when i change channels. i'll look at that later tho [00:16] will do [00:17] pdragon, keep those on a different bug [00:17] hmm... interesting. picture actually seems clearer on my live tv [00:17] oh i will [00:17] that bug is going to get crowded quickly :) [00:17] i'm not even going to worry about the sound thing right now [00:18] watching recordings works and if i exit out of livetv and go back in the sound is fine [00:19] ok [00:20] superm1, thats the same issue I have been having that there is already a bug against iirc [00:20] huh? [00:20] well so what is this sound issue? [00:20] updated the bug. thanks again! [00:21] sometimes the sound is crackly and high pitched, but reseting the stream clears it up [00:21] foxbuntu: only way to record is to schedule it? [00:21] wild_oscar, or just watch TV and hit the record button on your remote [00:21] foxbuntu: what's the keyboard command? [00:21] (don't have a remote) [00:22] r? [00:22] (Im not sure) [00:22] foxbuntu: that's exactly what my sound does. the crackly high-pitched thing [00:22] you have a bug in for that already? [00:22] foxbuntu, aren't you using sp/dif? [00:23] superm1, no..just analog audio out [00:23] boo [00:23] yeah I know [00:24] I have issues with my amp though...one of the optical ins is dead [00:24] and its more important to me to have the PS3 on it [00:25] no coax in? [00:25] nope [00:25] boo+3 [00:26] I know I need a new amp...but the wife wont approve that one right now [00:26] even with all the money you saved not needing another backend? [00:26] haha [00:27] * foxbuntu doesn't really want to pull out and rewire his amp either [00:31] So, I installed mythbuntu 8 beta on top of a pre-existing ubuntu 8 install. I'm trying to optimize it, and I want to remove all the old ubuntu-desktop stuff that I don't need to run a frontend/backend mythbuntu box. [00:31] Shouldn't I be able to remove gnome? It appears to be a dependency for mythbuntu. [00:31] i'm slowly upgrading my gaming computer. when i get a new motherboard/cpu i'll be moving it to become my mythtv box. then i can finally do HD and optical audio :) [00:31] wilburdude, some things you can remove [00:31] some you can't [00:32] Ok [00:32] there are some pieces that are required [00:32] well, i'll leave this for another day! [00:32] thanks for the help anyway! [00:32] cheers [00:33] So any easy things to knock off that may be killing performance? I've got a mac mini running 1080p with about 90% success [00:33] foxbuntu: i wasn't sure... did you say the liirc bug you have in is related to the weird sound? [00:33] And I just need to edge out a tiny bit more performance to have a really successful mac mini myth box that can handle just about anything. [00:33] pdragon, no [00:33] pdragon, I am researching the audio issue [00:34] ok [00:34] pdragon, you using an onboard audio setup? [00:34] yes [00:34] as am I [00:34] just a rather generic onboard 5.1 audio [00:34] pdragon, sounds like mine :) [00:34] AsRock motherboard [00:36] Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 60) [00:36] pdragon, try this [00:37] open MCC, Advanced > Enable RTC Video Tweak [00:37] apply that and reset mythfrontend [00:37] will have to later. world of warcraft raid starting now :) [00:37] lol [00:37] pdragon, I'll try it later as well [00:37] ok [00:38] if you find a fix, send me a tell if you don't mind [00:39] pdragon, NP [01:54] Evenin' folks [01:55] after upgrading to hardy I lost my sound on my sound blaster audigy... anyone else seen this problem?? [02:08] running 8.04, trying to get streaming to work in mythweb, anyone got it running or is it broke? [02:14] streaming how, via flash? [02:24] yes [02:25] you need ffmpeg with libmp3lame support [02:25] ffmpeg --version [02:25] ahhh that might be the problem [02:26] medibuntu repos should have it before hardy goes final [02:26] you should have that from using the medibuntu repositories [02:26] as of now they don't [02:26] i just enable propritory codeacs in myth control [02:26] Aquahallic: only in gutsy, not in hardy [02:26] their hardy version is old right now [02:26] ohhhhhhhhh [02:26] so how ya get it in hardy?? [02:26] wait, or do it yourself [02:27] compile it manual?? [02:27] or maybe I will do it on my PPA if I ever get my devbox back up [02:27] is there a date to when hardy goes final? [02:27] 32 days [02:28] Aquahallic, please make sure you are booted into the generic kernel [02:28] they should have it on medibuntu before then, but I can't tell you when [02:28] not 386 [02:28] cool, end of april somtime :) [02:28] Aquahallic, if you are booted into -386 i need you to notate it on a bug [02:28] rhpot, thanks [02:28] i'll get you the number if so [02:28] yeah.. I found that... Egghead3 had same problem.. and I am in 386 kernel... [02:29] Aquahallic, bug 188287 [02:29] why's it doing that??? any idea?? [02:29] np Egghead3, if I get it working I am making a FAQs right now, it will go into that [02:29] watch the forums for a sticky [02:29] Launchpad bug 188287 in mythbuntu "dependencies installs -386 kernel which hangs on boot" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/188287 [02:29] Aquahallic, not at all your fault [02:29] but a very annoying bug [02:29] please notate on it subscribe and all that [02:29] we need this as a high priority to get fixed [02:29] yup.. it is! [02:30] borked all KINDS of stuff on my box [02:30] something must be getting reported back during the install incorrectly [02:31] no its not from that [02:31] its from the nvidia driver dependencies [02:31] hey.. superm1: while I have your ear....:) [02:31] the issue is detailed on that bug, but hasn't been fixed yet [02:31] remember a while back... .you helped me with my ATI card and Compiz with mythtv?? [02:32] vaguely [02:32] My lappy's still on Gutsy but I took the .21 update since my backend went to .21 [02:32] all my people have blue skin... [02:32] ugh [02:32] I'm watching life sized smurfs [02:32] laga, ^ [02:32] i thought you said that was resolved in 0.21? [02:32] Hi, I am havig some issues getting vncserver to work, it states that it cannot run on screen 0 because a server is already running there, however when trying to kill vncserver on screen 0 it says that it has no record of vncserver running on screen 0 [02:32] oh and.... [02:32] Ziroday, 7.10 or 8.04? [02:32] I'm using the free driver [02:33] Aquahallic, if you can use the non-free driver please do so [02:33] superm1: 7.10 [02:33] Ziroday, its because its started with the x server [02:33] Ziroday, to stop it you need to open mcc [02:33] I tried installing the non-free.. and my compiz went belly up! [02:33] and hit disable on the services tab [02:33] Aquahallic, you don't use xgl with fglrx [02:33] superm1: okay I will try that then [02:33] Aquahallic, dont need to [02:34] lost me [02:34] superm1: thanks [02:34] Ziroday, you'll have to restart your X server for it to take effect [02:34] Ziroday, why doin't you just use the existing vnc server though? [02:34] Aquahallic, if you were using xgl, dont need ti [02:34] Aquahallic, but like i said if you can do non-free drivers on your card, the issue shouldnt persist [02:34] entry in my xorg.conf?? [02:35] comment out xgl? [02:35] no [02:35] remove the package xserver-xgl [02:35] if its installed [02:36] noop.. not installed [02:37] if I go and enable the non-free driver.... I lose all kinds of stuff... my cube... my awndock [02:37] do I need to go and re-configure all that stuff after I enable the non-free and they'll come back? [02:38] Aquahallic, you need the newer fglrx then [02:38] can I get it in a .deb? [02:39] it builds .deb's [02:39] go to the ati cchtml wiki [02:39] any info where I can get it? [02:39] explains it all [02:39] ahh.. k [02:39] kewl [02:39] ty [02:39] * Aquahallic tired of smurfs... but I can't live without my cube....:) [02:45] hows every1 doing [02:45] laga: any word on the lirc package from mario? [02:45] rhpot, is there support for hardy at medibuntu repo? did a search for adding it to apt/source list but cant find anything for hardy [02:46] abarbacci1, just got in from out of town this evening. i'm just about to go through the bugs and see what i cant fix tonight. :) [02:46] or is that what u where saying , wait a few eeks for then to support hardy [02:46] Egghead3, they will be adding in a few weeks "official" support, but mcc will activate where their hardy repo will be [02:46] superm1: hey - awesome. let me know if i can help with a solution or explanation of the problem or if you want to explain how to update that package === abarbacci1 is now known as abarbaccia [02:47] abarbacci1, do you have a particular bug that you are referring to? there are some 30 odd bugs open right now [02:47] superm1, cool :) [02:47] superm1: well, the primary problem that i see is that the transmission is broken in 0.8.3pre1 [02:47] thanks [02:48] abarbaccia, okay are you going to be around for the night? If I can sort that out, i'll put a testing package out on a ppa you can try [02:48] superm1: ppa? [02:48] personal package archive [02:48] its like a third party repo [02:49] superm1: very cool. i'm probably not going to be up much longer (EST) but i have access to my machines all day so i can test tomorrow morning, etc [02:49] abarbaccia, okay well i'll see what i can find with it, but i'm CST, so hopefully i can make some progress [02:49] if you find which patch in lirc cvs it is before me though [02:50] by all means pass it this way [02:50] superm1: i'm confused why you look for a patch and not switching the source to a more recent version...maybe its something about packaging i don't understand [02:50] abarbaccia, well at this point in the cycle its too late to switch to a "whole" new checkout [02:51] I want to connect two tuner cards to on sound card [02:51] because we dont know what issues would be introduced for other drivers [02:51] its called a "feature freeze" [02:51] I want to connect two tuner cards to one sound card [02:51] superm1: gotcha. lets say you can't find the patch - any way to push past the freeze or is it pretty strict? [02:51] abarbaccia, i'd actually be really suspicisious its this one http://lirc.cvs.sourceforge.net/lirc/lirc/drivers/lirc_serial/lirc_serial.c?r1=5.86&r2=5.87 [02:52] abarbaccia, do you have a hardy system handy right now? [02:52] i can tell you how to apply it and give it a shot locally quickly [02:52] superm1: yes [02:52] abarbaccia, okay great. install lirc-modules-source. [02:53] inside /usr/src/ a directory will get made that contains the lirc kernel module source tree [02:53] its building... [02:54] k [02:54] it will build once, you apply your patch, and then you'll have to manually issue a rebuild [02:56] to rebuild it will be something like "dkms build -m lirc -v 0.8.3~pre1 -k 2.6.24-12-generic --force [02:56] which will put together a deb of the new modules [02:56] that you can install [02:58] please help me install two tuners [02:58] okay, how do i apply the patch? [02:59] after upgrade to .21, i now get an audio stream changed [02:59] abarbaccia, so you save that as a "patch" [02:59] and then its patch -p0 < file.patch [02:59] error in mythfrontend log [02:59] or patch -p1 < file.patch [02:59] depends on the patch level [03:00] superm1: that patch is already applied. [03:00] well that's less interesting [03:01] the only other patch after it in CVS is some cleanup stuff [03:01] for ending spaces [03:01] and curly brace placement [03:02] abarbaccia, okay this one looks like it hasn't been applied yet [03:02] http://lirc.cvs.sourceforge.net/lirc/lirc/drivers/lirc_dev/lirc_dev.c?r1=1.55&r2=1.56 [03:02] and is relevant to 2.6.23+ [03:02] superm1: in the bug i filed i think i mentioned how i thought it was not just hte lirc_serial module [03:02] and still a kernel module [03:02] lirc_dev [03:02] which is used [03:03] paired with http://lirc.cvs.sourceforge.net/lirc/lirc/drivers/lirc_dev/lirc_dev.h?r1=1.21&r2=1.22 [03:04] patch them both? [03:05] yes [03:05] they were paired together as patches [03:05] superm1: okay, i just patched the files. trying to build... [03:06] superm1: i have to do a dkms remove first? [03:06] abarbaccia, i'm not sure to be honest. you may or may not need to :) [03:06] try not doing it [03:06] and if it complains then do it [03:06] it told me i need to [03:06] haha [03:07] dkms is just used for local module builds. the kernel modules end up in the linux-ubuntu-modules package for mainline builds [03:07] DKMS tree does not contain: lirc-0.8.3~pre1 [03:07] you need to dkms add i believe [03:08] that stuff is handled for the first build, i didnt think you really had to remove it though [03:08] superm1: this is all above me right now, but its building [03:08] i thought it would just rebuild if you asked [03:08] build completed. [03:08] abarbaccia, okay well so that will spit out a deb in /usr/src [03:08] install it [03:08] err...no de [03:08] and then rmmod lirc_dev and lirc_serial [03:08] b [03:09] sure? [03:09] yep [03:09] okay then dkms install [03:09] will do it [03:09] or mkdeb [03:09] more likely dkms install -m lirc -v 0.8.3~pre1 -k 2.6.24-12-generic [03:09] or something similar [03:10] hey whats up superm1 [03:10] you should take down some notes for this and put them on the lirc wiki page i think :) [03:10] hi npurciful [03:11] err, fighting my hdhomerun [03:11] npurciful, that's never fun [03:11] you shouldn't do that [03:12] it is really the mythtv channel scan, i get on channel to work and the other one doesnt [03:12] on 0.21? [03:12] the scanner is improved... [03:13] yeah i using .021 [03:13] .21 [03:13] well there is always crying then :) [03:13] after upgrade to .21, i get an 'audio stream changed' error in my mythfrontend log, and ideas fixes? [03:13] or if you get a backtrace, you can throw that our way [03:13] do you by chance? [03:14] got channel 9.1 to work and know 4.1 doesnt [03:14] no i dont [03:14] i'm surprised the *scanner* would be what goes down [03:14] usually its during playback [03:14] you're on the latest firmware i'm assuming right? [03:16] yeah, i have done the scan with hdhr_config scan [03:16] it fined all the channels [03:17] can you export that to a channels.conf by chance? [03:17] superm1: im taking some notes -- but basically i compiled the package and installed it. rebooting the system since the modules weren't playing nice with the unload... [03:17] abarbaccia, you have a cvs compile still on the system? [03:17] like a full checkout i mean [03:17] no [03:17] okay good [03:18] this is a fresh install, just now with this package installed also [03:18] should i be removing the lirc package? [03:18] thats provided by mythbuntu [03:19] that is what i was trying to figure out is how to convert the hdhr scan to channel.conf [03:19] ata1.00 [03:21] abarbaccia, no you shouldn't [03:21] these modules should take precedence automatically [03:21] and they were provided from linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24-12-generic anyway [03:21] so that wouldn't change anything [03:23] superm1: okay, then we have no success. [03:24] does mythbuntu gutsy rep have different dependencies that ubuntu hardy beta's own rep of .21? [03:24] cause when I go to install mythweb on my gutsy box thta is using your sources, it doesn't flag anything for install as deps [03:25] but on my hardy beta box, trying to install mythweb flags apache for install [03:26] superm1: actually, let me test something else out here quick. [03:27] abarbaccia, ok [03:28] superm1: my cable box wasn't responding. but when i put the blaster up against a usb receiver - it blinked saying it was getting some sort of signal (maybe malformed). i'm testing with hte old module to see if that makes it blink [03:30] superm1: I edited my menu.lst to boot into generic kernel.. and it just sat on the splash screen with the bar going back and forth for a longtime.. and now it's saying something about busybox [03:30] abarbaccia, is this an improvement over before that some signal is sent then albeit possibly malformed? [03:30] Aquahallic, there is something on that bug for what to do [03:31] about update-initramfs [03:32] superm1: just tested. packets are being sent but malformed in both the newly built, and the old package [03:32] can we see a list of the patches from pre1 to cvs somehow [03:32] abarbaccia, i fear i've run into this before too [03:32] abarbaccia, like 2-3 years ago [03:32] superm1: oh boy. that is never good. [03:32] abarbaccia, and it was never resolved [03:33] i switched away from serial [03:33] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=373871 [03:33] superm1: i have lirc working on an ubuntu box configured from source [03:33] abarbaccia, well that is quite re-assuring... [03:34] as for seeing all patches from CVS then to now, not easily. this isn't bzr or git or anything smart like that :) [03:34] abarbaccia, how did you make sure you loaded the old modules vs the new ones? [03:35] abarbaccia, the other thing that i may not have notated in that bug.. [03:35] abarbaccia, i was able to take a nonfunctional lirc blasting computer, take its hard drive out, thrwo it in another, move my blaster over [03:35] and it worked [03:36] but the fact that this works with a CVS checkout makes me rather uneasy. [03:37] superm1: these are the machines i sell and i have serial blasters working from compiled source on ~65 of them [03:37] err i think i am going to do a scan with my dvb card to export to channel.conf [03:38] * superm1 shrugs [03:38] hm [03:38] so the hardware is tested. also, i ran into the same problem on gutsy. a compile from cvs fixed the issues [03:38] abarbaccia, okay well lets do this. i'll make a build on a ppa with all the debs [03:38] abarbaccia, with the latest checkout [03:38] superm1: you beat me to it- i was just oging to suggest that [03:39] it won't be done building until about an hour or two from now [03:39] so you can try tomorrowm ornign [03:39] sounds like tomorrow morning for me [03:39] it it sorts things out for you i'll see what we can do about putting it directly in [03:39] you have my email - so if you can give me brief directions on how to checkout i should be able to handle it form there. [03:39] if it doesn't then i'm at quite a loss [03:39] it is a bunch of debs [03:39] superm1: i'll give up at that point too [03:39] so it should be pretty straightforward [03:40] i'll shoot you an email before i head to bed [03:40] oh, okay. then just the link is all i need. please email it so i have a copy when i'm at work (and don't have to dig through these logs) [03:40] and we'll go from there [03:40] sounds great! thanks for helpin out here. nite. [03:40] yup nite [04:00] superm1: i hooked up my pchdtv 5500 card and did a scan and it picked up all the stations [04:00] npurciful, well you can share the results of that scan across tuners [04:01] yeah, that is what i did, kinda frustration though [04:01] understandable [04:02] if you could convert hdhr_config scan /tuner0 channels.conf to something myth could read that would be great [04:04] does that spit out a channels.conf in std format? [04:04] or something that looks close to standard? [04:07] no really i will pastebin it [04:08] no = not [04:10] superm1: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6029/ [04:10] yeah that's hardly useful [04:10] that looks more like a log [04:10] than a channels.conf [04:10] yeah [04:18] hey has anyone used or herd about the Western Digital Green Power drives preformance as a mythtv drive? [04:19] I ask because best buy (ugh) has them for a 100$ and my seagate i just bought die in 2 days RMA though and the Seagate was loud === superm1 changed the topic of #ubuntu-mythtv to: Welcome to #ubuntu-mythtv :: MythTV 0.21 is released in gutsy-backports and Hardy. Please see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=733607 for FAQs related to the upgrade :: Mythbuntu 7.10 Released :: Mythbuntu 8.04 Beta released. :: See our website at http://www.mythbuntu.org :: Paste logs @ http://pastebin.ubuntu.com :: See http://www.mythbuntu.org/support for support information. === superm1 changed the topic of #ubuntu-mythtv to: Welcome to #ubuntu-mythtv :: MythTV 0.21 is released in gutsy-backports and Hardy. Please see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=733607 for FAQs related to the upgrade :: Mythbuntu 7.10 Released :: Mythbuntu 8.04 Beta released. :: See our website at http://www.mythbuntu.org for release and support information :: Paste logs @ http://pastebin.ubuntu.com [05:47] does the chronos video shuttle 2 tv card work in mythbuntu? [06:25] how do i run an application (like the MythFlix scripts) as user mythtv? [06:33] sshirley, sudo su mythtv -c blah [06:34] Thanks! [10:27] hi guys [10:28] I'm installing mythbuntu on my system now... [10:29] does it always take so long? [10:29] I mean after the OK-list it jumps into a blackscreen... I can'y see anything now.. [10:30] I'm installing mythbuntu 8.04. [10:31] I'm giving... think I'm going for the 7.10 [11:07] can anyone help me... [11:08] I'm having some trouble installing mythbuntu [12:39] Mornin' folks [12:40] I did the Hardy upgrade... then I had that problem with it booting into 386 kernel us I went and changed it in my menu.lst to boot into generic kernel... now all I can get is BusyBox at top of screen and initramfs prompt... anyone seen this? [14:24] Aquahallic: yes. [14:24] Aquahallic: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/188287 [14:59] i'm trying to find on the mythbuntu website the reps taht actually exist. there's 20.2 for gutsy and there's a weekly build of truck, but where's .21 final? [14:59] mcquaid: in the backports [15:00] in ubuntu backports? they don't have .21 do they? and i also have a hardy beta box [15:00] mcquaid: gutsy-backports has 0.21 [15:00] basically is there a page at mythbuntu.org that's lists the reps it has [15:00] the hardy beta should have 0.21 already [15:01] yes hardy does have beta .21 [15:01] what are you looking for then? [15:01] but there are other reasons i'm asking. for example hardy beta flags apache as a dep when installing mythweb, mythbuntu doesn't [15:01] i use lighttp and it kind of annoys me that it's forcing apache [15:02] i thought i read that you also have a stable .21 rep [15:02] lighthttp support is in the works as far as I know, but not done yet [15:02] just wanted to confirm what actually repositories mythbuntu has [15:02] odd. [15:02] mcquaid: mythbuntu uses the ubuntu repositories. [15:02] mcquaid: um.. [15:02] let's take a look at the dependencies of mythweb: [15:02] Depends: apache2 | httpd [15:03] i assume "httpd" is some kind of virtual dependency.. [15:04] mcquaid, the depends change is coming but not there yet. I am the owner of the blueprint for lighty on mythbunut and working on it (slowly) [15:04] apache2-mpm-worker provides httpd... [15:04] i can only think httpd is lighttp [15:04] mcquaid: the lighttpd also 'provides' httpd, so i dont know why it would be failing? [15:05]