[00:07]  * PriceChild is probably back tomorrow
[00:11] <nikrud> everyone have your fun while you can
[01:54] <ubotu> In ubotu, kgoetz said: ubotu thx is reasons to use words when thanking people: http://lumpio.no-ip.com/dont-use-thx-sry-plz.txt
[02:07] <Pici> eh.. no.
[02:31] <nikrud> Pici you are overly discriminating I think ;)
[02:32] <Pici> nikrud: thx
[02:32] <nikrud> heh
[02:32] <nikrud> yw
[04:49] <ubotu> In #kubuntu, re-align said: ubotu, why is there no Kubuntu version of you?
[05:54] <ubotu> RioMerc called the ops in #ubuntu ()
[05:58] <nalioth> what the heck was that?
[05:58] <elkbuntu> you havent put ubotu in #linux have you?
[05:58] <tritium> kindofabuzz was asking how to find out who the ops of a channel are, and RioMerc used the ops trigger
[05:59] <nalioth> zcat issued a weird weird phrasing
[05:59] <tritium> Oh, you mean zcat[1]'s bit.  That was strange
[05:59] <nalioth> i know about riomerc and kindofabuzz
[05:59] <elkbuntu> then zcat decided to repaste the list list with the channel changed
[06:01] <nalioth> says he joined ##linux and /msg'd the bot 'ops'
[06:01] <nalioth> ?!?!?!?!?
[06:01] <nalioth> alrighty then
[06:08] <tritium> Good night.
[06:26] <Myrtti> morning
[06:43] <tritium> What the heck...
[07:23] <DBO> ping Amaranth 
[09:45] <tonyyarusso> whoa, it's a DBO 
[09:46] <DBO> it sure is
[12:14]  * Hobbsee has had enough of irc ops crap.
[12:14] <Hobbsee> more than enough
[12:28] <Myrtti> I'm quite certain Lyn wasn't trolling
[12:29] <Seveas> then what the hell would you call that behaviour?
[12:29] <Myrtti> spam isn't exactly a clear term since it's closely associated with email spam
[12:30] <Myrtti> I know what it means in that factoid only because I've been ... what's the word...
[12:31] <Myrtti> /me is shooting blanks
[12:31] <elkbuntu> bring orvokki in here please
[12:31] <elkbuntu> Myrtti, you mean, you're in the know?
[12:31] <ompaul> elkbuntu, na lets leave it
[12:31] <Myrtti> because I've been watching and participating in the process
[12:32] <Myrtti> I can discuss the matter with him if you want
[12:32] <ompaul> if we have to address every person for a lack of common sense then -ot should be shut down
[12:32] <elkbuntu> Myrtti, please
[12:32] <ompaul> and #u kept on topic the whole time
[12:33] <ompaul> _no_ social activity on irc
[12:33] <Myrtti> could you please unban Lynoure?
[12:33] <Myrtti> I don't think the ban is just
[12:33] <Myrtti> a simple kick would've sufficed
[12:33] <Myrtti> and asking her to come here and explain the matter, if necessary
[12:36] <Myrtti> *sigh*
[12:37] <Hobbsee> hm?
[12:37] <Myrtti> I'm disagreeing with the banning of Lynoure being necessary and just
[12:38] <Hobbsee> Seveas: did you speak to her?
[12:38] <elkbuntu> Myrtti, have her come explain why she insists on providing an obstacle. it's hard enough to catch emma since she's so sneaky, let alone having to put out lynoure's fires whilst trying to do so.
[12:38] <Seveas> Hobbsee, haven't had time yet with all the side discussions going on
[12:38] <Hobbsee> k
[12:40] <Myrtti> elkbuntu: honestly I don't want to get more mixed up in this since I didn't do the ban and haven't been dealing with the issue of emma and her channel
[12:40] <Myrtti> and I'm naturally biased towards Lyn
[12:40] <Myrtti> as anyone can see.
[12:46] <Myrtti> oh, never mind. I'll do vacuuming before I do anything irate
[12:46] <elkbuntu> she gave seveas some bad attitude, but hobbsee's managed to talk to her. she's unbanned.
[12:47] <ompaul> ballard is not our friend 
[12:48] <ompaul> ruining our ban lists like that
[12:58] <ikonia> LjL: are you there at all ?
[12:58] <ikonia> morning ompaul 
[12:58] <ompaul> ikonia, I am 
[12:58] <LimCore> hello
[12:59] <elkbuntu> LimCore, can we help?
[12:59] <Pici> ompaul is not LjL last time I checked.
[12:59]  * Pici checks again
[12:59] <elkbuntu> Pici, hopefully a satisfactory replacement though
[12:59] <LimCore> yes, it would be so nice if some operators will not place longer bans basing on personall feelings
[12:59] <ompaul> Pici, morning ompaul was said -0- I did not hit him with a it is afternoon
[12:59] <elkbuntu> LimCore, you'll need to be more specific
[13:00] <LimCore> default ban length is 24 hours isnt it?
[13:00] <ompaul> no
[13:00] <Pici> There is no 'default ban length'
[13:00] <LimCore> they dont auto expire?
[13:00] <Hobbsee> there is...bah.
[13:00] <ompaul> no
[13:01]  * Hobbsee types too slowly.
[13:01] <elkbuntu> LimCore, please state your issue fully.
[13:01] <Hobbsee> i thought there were plans to make an autoexpirer for banning with ubotu, though
[13:01] <Hobbsee> sometime.
[13:01] <Seveas> LimCore, one tip, if you want to get someone to do something for you (in this case the removal of a ban), it's better not to start with verbal abuse...
[13:01] <elkbuntu> Hobbsee, yeah they um... are still in progress
[13:02] <ompaul> Hobbsee, feel free to write the code ;-)
[13:02]  * ompaul runs
[13:02] <LimCore> well, mneptok interrupted intereesting conversation with a ban, and keeps it while it is no longer needed
[13:02] <Seveas> Hobbsee, need to replace ubotu first, need to upgrade my colobox to hardy for that
[13:02] <LimCore> where I pointed out social related security issue in scponly program in #ubuntu+1
[13:03] <Seveas> mrt 22 07:13:43 <LimCore>       boy, is ubuntu+1 full of close minded people like mneptok
[13:03] <LimCore> Seveas: that was my reaction to the oryginal ban
[13:03] <Seveas> LimCore, it doesn't help your case
[13:03] <elkbuntu> LimCore, that line is considered a personal attack.
[13:03] <LimCore> I thought on FREEnode people should be free to say what they trully think. it works usually on other channels
[13:04] <elkbuntu> !codeofconduct
[13:04] <ubotu> The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[13:04] <LimCore> elkbuntu: I didnt said "idiot" or something. it was ment like "conservative"
[13:04] <Seveas> LimCore, your behaviour in #ubuntu+1 warranted a ban, if you don't know why, read that link ubotu gave
[13:04] <elkbuntu> LimCore, that code is linked to from channel topics. it is the Terms of Service for the ubuntu channels.
[13:05] <LimCore> Seveas: ok
[13:05] <Seveas> mrt 22 06:30:29 <LimCore>       ubuntu sucks about security, can this be changed?
[13:05] <LimCore> Seveas: and now keeping such ban makes no sense, other then distrupting me for fixing a bug in ubuntu
[13:05] <Seveas> sure, that's the way to get help
[13:05] <Seveas> the ban stays, trolls are not welcome
[13:05] <Hobbsee> LimCore: afaik, bugs don't get fixed on irc anyway.  that's why there's a bugtracker.
[13:05] <LimCore> Seveas: it works fully on other top10 channels, some apparently vary in accepted style 
[13:06] <LimCore> Hobbsee: I wonder how to make a proper .patch to send to bugtracker
[13:06] <elkbuntu> LimCore, read the code of conduct and come back another time
[13:06] <Seveas> LimCore, you're lucky I wasn't there when you were trolling. I'd have banned you for that line alone
[13:06] <LimCore> Hobbsee: and, who to ask to have it polled in into new version asap
[13:06] <Hobbsee> LimCore: suggest you ask in #ubuntu-motu, where developers are.
[13:06] <Seveas> LimCore, anything else?
[13:06] <Hobbsee> LimCore: we're in feature freeze.  they'll tell you ther.e
[13:07] <LimCore> Seveas: yes, "trolling" is defined by lack of constructive point, and this is why it's not wellcomed, right?
[13:07] <Seveas> mrt 22 06:30:29 <LimCore>       ubuntu sucks about security, can this be changed?
[13:07] <Seveas> that's not constructive
[13:08] <LimCore> Seveas: and I didn't said anything more on this topic, or did I proceed to explain my point
[13:08] <elkbuntu> Seveas, agreed. thats an insult with a few words tacked on the end
[13:08] <LimCore> Seveas: it was a bad start yes, sorry
[13:08] <Seveas> LimCore, only nonsense came after that
[13:08] <Seveas> so bye bye
[13:08] <Hobbsee> ...
[13:10] <Pici> sigh
[13:10] <Hobbsee> Seveas: finger.  trigger.  bad.
[13:11] <Seveas> Hobbsee, troll. not stopping. worse :)
[13:11] <Seveas> logs from +1 and his 'retaliation' in #ubuntu say enough
[13:11] <Hobbsee> Seveas: catalysing.
[13:11] <Seveas> as does his entrance here
[13:11] <Hobbsee> yeah well
[13:12] <elkbuntu> it could be worse, he could have been the 'hi can we help you' 'yes i want my ban lifted' 'ban from where' 'i want my ban lifted' guy
[14:27] <ubotu> In ubotu, evand said: wubi is an official Ubuntu installer for Windows users.  It is included on the 8.04 CD.
[14:28] <Pici> !wubi
[14:28] <ubotu> wubi is an unofficial Ubuntu installer for Windows users - more info is at http://wubi-installer.org/
[14:28] <Pici> hmm
[14:28]  * Pici wonders what other factoids will have to be updated for Hardy's release
[14:28] <ompaul> !search gutsy
[14:28] <ubotu> Found: studiorepo, links, kde, dolphin, torrents, download, 7.10, virtualbox, rt, gibbon
[14:29] <Hobbsee> !no wubi is an official Ubuntu installer for Windows users.  It is included on the 8.04 CD.
[14:29] <ubotu> I'll remember that Hobbsee
[14:29] <Jucato> dolphin/d3lphin doesn't need to be changed :)
[14:29] <Jack_Sparrow> I really hate wubi, have there been some imporvements I have not seen?
[14:29] <Hobbsee> !wubi > evand
[14:29] <Pici> I meant because of changes to audio, video, etc.. not just name changes.
[14:39] <evand> Jack_Sparrow: ok, lets continue this here then.
[14:39] <ompaul> Scunizi, ?
[14:39] <ompaul> seamus_ie, ?
[14:39] <ompaul> how can we help you?
[14:40] <evand> Wubi *is* supported by Ubuntu and you should not turn users away from #ubuntu because they're asking for help using it or installs from it.
[14:40] <Scunizi> I'm listening.. debate on Wubi and it's merrits
[14:41] <Jack_Sparrow> wubi is unofficial until hardy.. unoffical ..
[14:41] <evand> Uh, no.
[14:41] <evand> Sure, you can direct them to #ubuntu+1 as it's only available on Hardy.
[14:41] <evand> But that's not what you were doing at all.
[14:41] <Jack_Sparrow> evand, People are always having trouble with it and the simulated partitioning.
[14:41] <evand> It is NOT simulated partitioning.
[14:41] <evand> I already explained this to you.
[14:42] <Jack_Sparrow> It does not work and can even pose a danger to your ntfs system per one of the last blogs I read and shared with the other ops
[14:42] <evand> Jack_Sparrow: It does work, if there's a bug in it, it should be filed as such.
[14:43]  * Hobbsee points out the fact that evand is one (or the only, now) guy who works on the ubuntu installer, including wubi, and probably has a clue.
[14:43] <evand> The only changes it makes to the NTFS filesystem is A) creating a file B) adding an option to the Windows bootloader using the Microsoft tool to do it.
[14:43] <evand> one of three if you count cjwatson and Ago.
[14:43] <seamus_ie> Jack_Sparrow: just because people are having trouble with it doesn't mean they should not be helped, quite the opposite. wubi is designed to allow windows users to try linux without partitioning their hard drive and by installing a program in the "normal" manner, I think this should be encouraged
[14:44] <Hobbsee> evand: ago?  don't know him.
[14:44]  * ompaul wonders about this idea of running gnu in a file container on an ntfs partition
[14:44] <evand> Hobbsee: Agostino Russo.  He's the lead Wubi developer, but not an Ubuntu developer yet.
[14:44] <Hobbsee> ahhh
[14:45] <Jack_Sparrow> I have not seen any of you in the channel helping with a fairly reoccuring issue with wubi
[14:45] <ompaul> evand, does it give a boot loader pointer to the file address?
[14:45] <Hobbsee> Jack_Sparrow: because developers often help out users with their issues all the time, instead of actually developing...
[14:45] <Jack_Sparrow> HOw much of windowes is running in the background
[14:46] <Pici> Jack_Sparrow: none. It doesnt run in Windows.
[14:46] <evand> Jack_Sparrow: The best way for me to handle Wubi issues is via bug reports.  I have too many obligations to fixing bugs in and further developing the installer to sit in #ubuntu and #ubuntu+1 to handle every user issue.  I have wubi on hilight in both channels and do give what time I can to directing people to the right place.
[14:46] <evand> Which is exactly how I came by your incorrect comments.
[14:46] <jrib> evand: is there a wubi channel?
[14:47] <evand> jrib: No, I don't believe it's necessary.  Wubi is not different enough from a regular Ubuntu install to warrant it.
[14:47] <Jack_Sparrow> Wow...
[14:48] <Pici> hm?
[14:48] <Jack_Sparrow> Disbelief in that statement...
[14:48] <jrib> evand: right, the only difference I can see would be with installation
[14:48] <Pici> Once its up and running, I suppose we may see some differences in fstab, but everything else should be the same.
[14:49] <evand> jrib: Even that isn't very different.  It actually uses Ubiquity for about 95% of the install.  In fact, it's very, very similar to a preseeded install.
[14:50] <ompaul> hang on - support a filecontainer on ntfs and then MS comes along and nukes your container generation or boot loader creation method {don't think they won't, they don't know how to play fair}  -- and have #ubuntu screaming -- I think we live in interesting times
[14:50]  * Hobbsee smiles.  -offtopic has learned.
[14:50] <ompaul> this could be intesting
[14:50] <ompaul> interesting
[14:50] <evand> ompaul: Yes.  See the Wubi bzr trunk and the lupin source package.
[14:51] <jrib> well, as wubi is on the cd, I don't see how we can claim wubi discussion is offtopic, at least once hardy is released.  Does anyone disagree with this?
[14:52] <evand> ompaul: I think we're safe.  It's a regular file on Windows and the method we use to add it to the bootloader is standard in the Windows world.
[14:52] <Jack_Sparrow> Nope.. But I clearly wont be recommending it.. but I'll leave it for others to address the issues, make their own romm if needed etc
[14:53] <jrib> evand: wubi project is only for installing ubuntu or does it do other distros as well?
[14:53]  * Hobbsee blinks
[14:53] <ompaul> evand, well watch service packs like a hawk would be my advice ;-)  -- the concept that they would not play foul in some way scares me
[14:53] <evand> jrib: Ubuntu and Kubuntu currently.
[14:53] <Jack_Sparrow> evand, do you have an howto's for the people having installation issues so we can link them
[14:53] <Hobbsee> you know, i *might* even beat Seveas in -offtopic.
[14:54] <ompaul> Hobbsee, don't try he has a +1 script ;-) infinity is smaller than infinity +1
[14:54] <evand> Jack_Sparrow: for the time being I would point them at the Wubi forum until the wubi-installer.org site is switched to the 8.04 Beta: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=234
[14:54] <Hobbsee> hehe
[14:54] <evand> ompaul: :)
[14:55] <jrib> !wubi
[14:55] <ubotu> wubi is an official Ubuntu installer for Windows users.  It is included on the 8.04 CD.
[14:57] <ompaul> !no wubi is <reply> wubi advice here: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=234  and  http://wubi.org it will be included in hardy 8.04 currently in beta
[14:57] <ubotu> I'll remember that ompaul
[14:57] <ompaul> Pici, ^^ now there is one for hardy upgrade :P
[14:57] <ompaul> hmm that does not read too good
[14:57] <ompaul> !no wubi is <reply> wubi advice here: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=234  and  http://wubi.org (it will be included in hardy 8.04 currently in beta)
[14:58] <jrib> evand: that result seem reasonable?
[14:58] <evand> https://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug - anyone mind if that URL gets added to it?
[14:58] <ompaul> na
[14:58] <Jack_Sparrow> Not at all
[14:58] <evand> "Please file bugs here" or whatever people think is appropriate
[14:59] <ompaul> !no wubi is <reply> wubi advice here: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=234  and  http://wubi.org  [file wubu bugs here:  https://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug ] (it will be included in hardy 8.04 currently in beta)
[14:59] <ubotu> I'll remember that ompaul
[14:59] <evand> thanks
[14:59] <ompaul> evand, please remember the shorter the factoid the more the impact ;-)
[15:00] <jrib> !wubi =~ s/wubu/wubi
[15:00] <ubotu> Missing end delimiter
[15:00] <jrib> !wubi =~ s/wubu/wubi/
[15:00] <ubotu> I'll remember that jrib
[15:00] <jrib> !wubi
[15:00] <ubotu> wubi advice here: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=234  and  http://wubi.org  [file wubi bugs here:  https://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug ] (it will be included in hardy 8.04 currently in beta)
[15:00] <Jack_Sparrow> evand, What ab out the file installation/system problems that seem to be popping up, are they covered in the forums
[15:01] <evand> Jack_Sparrow: If they ask in the forums or file a bug about it, whatever problem they have with installation will get addressed.
[15:01] <Hobbsee> ubotu: lies
[15:01] <ubotu> Mostly just statistics, but yeah.
[15:01] <Hobbsee> lies, damned lies, and propaganda.
[15:02] <evand> lol
[15:02] <Jack_Sparrow> evand, all sound, video and networking should not be any different as far as support?
[15:02] <Hobbsee> ompaul: you want the honours?
[15:03] <evand> Jack_Sparrow: correct, that should be exactly the same
[15:03] <evand> the only thing that's *not* available to Wubi uses is hibernation.
[15:03] <evand> users*
[15:03] <Jack_Sparrow> they dont have that now :)
[15:03] <ompaul> Hobbsee, ?
[15:03] <Pici> evand: Is it somehow disabled in the install? or does it just fail?
[15:04] <Hobbsee> ompaul: see -offtopic.
[15:04] <evand> Pici: iirc, it's disabled.  But if it's available (which would be a bug), it should be avoided.
[15:05]  * Pici makes a mental note
[15:05] <Jack_Sparrow> come out of hibernation and write all over your ntfs.. ouch
[15:05] <evand> well, it will just fail to hibernate/return.
[15:06] <evand> trashing outside of the wubi file would be quite the feat.
[15:06] <Jack_Sparrow> evand, the last blog I read warned of the danger of it crashing out of the file structure and begining to write over windows
[15:06] <ompaul> Hobbsee, ok humble pie had to be eaten 
[15:07] <Hobbsee> ompaul: yeah, that's why she's not gone.
[15:07] <evand> Jack_Sparrow: I'd love a link to that.  The worst you can do is hard reboot a Wubi install which could do damage to your NTFS parition, but it's the same risk posed when you do a hard reboot from Windows.
[15:07] <Jack_Sparrow> evand, but ntfs write has improved since then
[15:07] <evand> Indeed, ntfs-3g is quite stable.
[15:08] <Jack_Sparrow> evand, Is that statement anywhere in your docs about the hard boot.
[15:09] <Jack_Sparrow> evbanit may be common knowledge, but knowledge is not common
[15:10] <evand> http://wubi-installer.org/faq.php#requirements - under "Any Gotcha?"
[15:22] <MrUnagi> ljl here
[15:23] <Pici> He hasn't been around today yet.
[15:23] <MrUnagi> what time does he usually roll out of bed
[15:23] <Pici> Hes usually here by now, so I don't know.
[15:23] <MrUnagi> thanks
[15:24] <ompaul> anything else?
[16:10] <Adys> Hey there, someone sent me here to ask for an update of the !dmix link to http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin
[16:10] <Pici> !dmix
[16:10] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[16:11] <Adys> Last one, sorry
[16:12] <Pici> !no sound is <reply> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[16:12] <ubotu> I'll remember that Pici
[16:12] <Pici> !no dmix is <alias> sound
[16:12] <ubotu> You are editing an alias. Please repeat the edit command within the next 10 seconds to confirm
[16:12] <Pici> !no dmix is <alias> sound
[16:12] <Pici> Adys: all fixed
[16:12] <Adys> cheers :)
[16:14] <ompaul> adys does not mince words
[17:00] <MrUnagi> has ljl arrived
[17:02] <ompaul> not since you were last here
[17:02] <MrUnagi> thanks
[17:27] <Pici> Can I get an good 'official sounding' repsonse to this: http://wiki.yak.net/894
[17:28] <Pici> Or rather, why posting it in #ubuntu+1 would be offtopic.  'because it is' isnt a good enough answer for me.
[17:28] <ompaul> braschahr1a!
[17:29] <ompaul> backports 
[17:29] <ompaul> Pici, ^^
[17:31] <Pici> So its still on-topic?
[17:31] <ompaul> no
[17:31] <ompaul> composing an answer in channel
[17:33] <ompaul> Pici, hope that helps
[17:34] <ompaul> Pici, when replies for something like that is asked for - you can always put a space in there
[17:34] <Pici> ompaul: thanks, had a bit of writers block whilst composing a repsonse. 
[17:34] <ompaul> time heals - instant replies are not good 
[17:34] <ompaul> as we know :-/
[18:17] <anthony> j #ubuntu-ops-pvt
[19:21] <livingdaylight> is this the channel to speak about one's banned status?
[19:45] <ompaul> livingdaylight, ask 
[19:45] <ompaul> where are you banned from
[19:46] <ompaul> and if we are slow to talk please allow a couple of minutes as we can be busy
[19:46] <livingdaylight> ompaul, hi, from #ubuntu and #ubuntu#offtopic
[19:46] <ompaul> Mark_G, how can we help you?
[19:46] <Mark_G> Just lerking.. thanks..
[19:46] <ompaul> livingdaylight, a moment please /me runs around 
[19:46] <ompaul> Mark_G, please see the topic
[19:46] <ompaul> as in no lurking
[19:47] <Mark_G> ok.. see ya
[19:47] <livingdaylight> ompaul, sure, thank you
[19:48] <ompaul> livingdaylight, are you sure you are banned from -offtopic?
[19:48]  * livingdaylight checks
[19:48] <ompaul> in fact are you sure you are banned at all
[19:49] <livingdaylight> ompaul, yes, on both... its what XChat tell me when i attempt to join
[19:49] <ompaul> ohh
[19:49]  * ompaul goes to check 
[19:50] <ompaul> livingdaylight, given the amount of times you were banned perhaps this may helpyou
[19:50] <ompaul> !guidelines
[19:50] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[19:50] <ompaul> I don't see you are being banned so let me check it out more
[19:52] <livingdaylight> ompaul, its been months now, if it helps :s I don't know how many times i've been banned, but a permanent ban doesn't seem warranted given my wrangle in ubuntu-offtopic with Pici
[19:53] <ompaul> the kirb step away from 
[19:53] <ompaul> the amount of bans would indicate something
[19:53] <ompaul> livingdaylight, I am trying to balance about 5 things
[19:54] <livingdaylight> ompaul, no worries
[19:54] <ompaul> gime a couple of mins
[19:58] <ompaul> livingdaylight, please try to join #ubuntu
[19:58] <ompaul> I can't see how you are banned
[19:58] <ompaul> as for -ot I can see that but give a min on that
[19:59] <livingdaylight> ompaul, it still says: * Cannot join #ubuntu (You are banned).
[19:59]  * ompaul can't find the ban in question 
[19:59] <ompaul> either by IP or by nick
[20:00] <livingdaylight> ompaul, maybe someone did some voodoo
[20:00] <ompaul>  77 101 
[20:00] <ompaul> I did and I found that
[20:00] <ompaul> but I want other stuff
[20:00] <ompaul> I can't find any  for ubuntu
[20:01] <ompaul> the voodoo was for -ot
[20:01] <livingdaylight> -ot?
[20:01] <ompaul> offtopic
[20:01] <livingdaylight> oh
[20:01] <ompaul> so that does not annoy me
[20:01] <ompaul> what annoys me is I can't find ya in -ot
[20:01] <ompaul> sorry
[20:02] <ompaul> in -ubuntu
[20:02] <livingdaylight> ompaul, maybe you can ask Pici` sometime when he's around
[20:02] <ompaul> I should be able to find this
[20:09] <ompaul> livingdaylight, check your pm
[20:23] <ompaul> ohh
[20:31] <ompaul> livingdaylight, you are sorted 
[20:31] <ompaul> cheers
[20:32] <livingdaylight> ompaul, thank you 
[20:46] <MrUnagi> ljl returned?
[20:48] <ompaul> I think he is gone for today - he ain't shown up at all
[20:48] <ompaul> it would be a bit late for him at this stage
[20:49] <MrUnagi> sigh
[20:50] <MrUnagi> can someone else review my case and decide whether to remove or when my ban might be removed?
[20:50] <ompaul> he was here most of the rest of the weekend
[20:50] <ompaul> he owns it you need to talk with him 
[20:56] <MrUnagi> =/
[20:56] <MrUnagi> thanks for your help
[21:42] <ubotu> erUSUL called the ops in #ubuntu (bmw528i)
[21:43] <Gary> awww, I was about to test my cmute script
[21:57] <ompaul> Gary, you need to be faster :)
[21:58] <Gary> ompaul: well, I always hestitate a bit, due to not like being named on the access list
[21:58] <Gary> omg, I am typing essex stylee
[21:59] <ompaul> Gary, so, like, you like, if you are not named like, not to be too fast, like?
[22:00] <Gary> ummm
[22:00] <Gary> woteva
[22:01] <Seveas> Gary chav...
[22:02] <Gary> hehe
[22:03] <ompaul> Seveas, did you get the scroll back in -pvt?
[22:35] <mneptok> "essex style"
[22:35] <mneptok> oooo! far-off and exotic ESSEX!
[22:36] <mneptok> that's like ... FIVE TOWNS AWAY! it's like another planet!
[22:48] <ompaul> mneptok, and don't you forget it, ohh wait you didn't
[22:48] <ompaul> you knew it
[23:19] <Amaranth> http://www.getautomatix.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=2424
[23:20] <Amaranth> i'm tempted to call !ops so everyone sees that :)
[23:20] <tomaw> you kinda just did
[23:20]  * Gary hurts Amaranth :p
[23:20] <Amaranth> hey if everyone highlights on the word itself that's their fault :P
[23:21]  * Pici parties
[23:21] <Gary> woo hooo
[23:21] <Amaranth> !automatix
[23:21] <ubotu> automatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[23:22] <Amaranth> hmm, should change that
[23:22] <Amaranth> !automatix is <reply>Automatix is no longer developed or supported by its creators and is not recommended, supported or needed by Ubuntu. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[23:22] <ubotu> But automatix already means something else!
[23:23] <Amaranth> !no automatix is <reply>Automatix is no longer developed or supported by its creators and is not recommended, supported or needed by Ubuntu. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[23:23] <ubotu> I'll remember that Amaranth
[23:25] <mneptok> i *thought* i felt a disturbance in the Force.
[23:30]  * nalioth feels very bad for Pioneer Warrior
[23:30] <nalioth> Arnie, <snip>, currently are too involved in their personal lives  <<< and this is new?
[23:32] <mneptok> who TF steals the name for their new distro from the 1936 edition of "inspiring names for the people that are not insulting to Comrade Stalin?"