[00:36] <effie_jayx> anyone using xubuntu hardy? is it just me or the panels are now grey...?
[00:39] <narothepharoh>  I am running xubuntu 7.10 dont have any sound
[00:40] <ere4si> !sound | narothepharoh
[00:40] <ubotu> narothepharoh: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[00:41] <narothepharoh> there is no volume control
[00:42] <ere4si> in a terminal type   alsamixer    and see if the controls are turned up
[00:51] <narothepharoh> ere4si: all are turned up except some are muted how do i unmute?
[00:53] <ere4si> narothepharoh, the right/left arrow selects up/down arows to change
[00:53] <siggjen> try man alsamixer, or just type m on the control
[00:56] <narothepharoh> this isnt working either all are unmuted but still no sound
[00:57] <ere4si> narothepharoh, at the top of alsamixer you're device should be listed - what is it?
[00:57] <narothepharoh> Audigy 1 [SB0090]
[00:58] <ere4si> brb
[01:00] <ere4si> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundcardsWithHardwareSynth - narothepharoh
[01:04] <ere4si> narothepharoh, seems the "audigy analog/digital output jack" was on by default so had to uncheck it - was another solution I found
[01:25] <sleek> every time i try booting from teh xubuntu cd, i get the menu to "start and install", which i choose... then i see the boot screen for Xubuntu with a progress bar, but it always stops right before it gets to the end... any way to see where this is failing?
[01:30] <keb> sleek : try Alt-F2 to switch to the message output console
[01:31] <sleek> keb: ok, i'll do that
[01:31] <sleek> thanks
[01:55] <babalas> can someone tell me how to install themes
[01:57] <j1mc> hi babalas
[01:57] <j1mc> yes, i can
[01:57] <keb> or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=227416&highlight=xfce+theme
[01:57] <j1mc> do you want your themes to be available to all users, or just yourself?
[01:57] <keb> but that looks a bit old
[01:57] <babalas> just myself please
[01:58] <j1mc> http://doc.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/desktop-themes.html
[01:58] <j1mc> that is the draft xubuntu 8.04 documentation
[01:59] <babalas> thanks for that link
[01:59] <babalas> that's what I needed
[02:00] <j1mc> yw.  that document will be included by default in the xubuntu 8.04 docs.
[02:00] <j1mc> if it's confusing in any way, please let me know
[02:12] <babalas> thanks again for that help
[02:37] <Gamaliel> aqui no se mueve nada
[02:38] <keb> no comprendo
[02:40] <Gamaliel> jajaja
[02:45] <nathan42100> so I just deleted some things with the delete key on the keyboard and they aren't in the trash...
[02:47] <GEIS> other than ssh how can i control xubuntu with gui?
[03:08] <j1mc> GEIS: do you mean without a gui?
[03:09] <Stroganoff> GEIS wants to run mldonkey on his new server
[03:09] <Stroganoff> but he refuses advice
[03:10] <Stroganoff> someone should point him to an commandline tutorial and a good administrative web interface if there is such
[03:16] <keb> there is also vnc
[03:17] <j1mc> keb: right.  :)  hardy will have an improved vnc client, too
[03:18] <j1mc> gotta run, all.  have a good night.
[03:18] <keb> cool
[03:18] <keb> ni
[05:09] <surfacecore> hi
[05:11] <surfacecore> I installed xubuntu in a 128mb ram, 1.70mhz celeron machine and it runs really slow, is there a way I can lighten xubuntu a bit? or do I install something else such as DSL or puppy?
[05:12] <surfacecore> anybody?
[05:13] <ere4si> 128mb should be ok - not great but ok
[05:15] <surfacecore> is really slow
[05:15] <surfacecore> it takes a min to open up firefox
[05:16] <surfacecore> and the OS without any use feels really slow
[05:17] <ere4si> can you open a terminal and type    free     and paste it - it will show the system mem and how it is used
[05:26] <surfacecore> i think is too slow
[05:27] <surfacecore> im going to puppy linux
[05:27] <surfacecore> most of the mem goes to services i dont use
[05:27] <surfacecore> i will install puppy and upgrade the kernel
[05:28] <surfacecore> or maybe start up with debian and start building my os from there
[05:31] <ere4si> there is an app in synaptic -   sysv-rc-conf    - that will let you turn off services you don't want - just be careful with it
[05:32] <ere4si> puppy is good but limited in the apps it has available
[05:32] <surfacecore> i know that is why i think in building my own debian
[05:33] <ere4si> I use an ubuntu server install with fluxbox as the window manager on a 128mb mem sys and it is pretty good for its' age :)
[05:35] <surfacecore> yea fluxbox is lighter, xfce is too heavy
[05:35] <surfacecore> the computer is not for me but it needs to run smoothly
[05:35] <ere4si> and with the server install less services are running
[05:36] <surfacecore> fluxbox or enlighment would probably run just fine
[05:36] <ere4si> yep
[05:36] <ere4si> and only install the apps you need
[05:39] <surfacecore> yea and a lighter browser
[05:40] <surfacecore> do you know of any good and light browser?
[05:40] <ere4si> epiphany gets recommended for that
[05:42] <surfacecore> yea but its on gnome so gnome libs would have to be running too, that would suck up my mem
[05:43] <ere4si> dillo is good - old but good
[10:39] <davidlow> Hi ppl, new to ubuntu / xubuntu. just wanna ask a few quick questions. 1. Is compiz available by default in the new 8.4 beta? 2. Is installing the new 8.4 beta recommended? 3. I still am able to update new versions thru the updater in 8.4 beta right?
[10:41] <davidlow> anyone?
[10:45] <davidlow> i'm sorry, did anyone see my questions?
[11:10] <Azmandius> Hello everyone!
[11:11] <Azmandius> today i am downloading for the first time version 6.06.1 (its for an old machine)
[11:12] <Azmandius> i was wondering where can i find the md5sum to make sure the image i will burn is not corrupted?
[11:13] <Azmandius> looks like many users here, but no reply...
[13:33] <narothepharoh>  I am running xubuntu 7.10 dont have any sound
[13:33] <TheSheep> narothepharoh: how did you check?
[13:42] <narothepharoh> TheSheep: I have no volume control and i have tried to play songs and nothing
[13:43] <narothepharoh> it has worked with ubuntu just fine
[13:44] <TheSheep> narothepharoh: you need to add volume control to the panle yourself
[13:44] <TheSheep> narothepharoh: and to play mp3 you need to install additional packages
[13:44] <TheSheep> !mp3 | narothepharoh
[13:44] <ubotu> narothepharoh: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[13:45] <narothepharoh> TheSheep: I have installed all that it works just no sound. How do I ADD TO THE PANEL?
[13:46] <TheSheep> narothepharoh: right-click on the panel, select 'add new item', select 'volume control' from the list
[13:47] <narothepharoh> The Sheep: that is not working
[13:47] <TheSheep> narothepharoh: which step exactly?
[13:48] <narothepharoh> TheSheep: The volume control
[13:49] <narothepharoh> I right click go to add and it doesnt put it there
[13:50] <TheSheep> hmm... there was a bug about it... go to 'keyboard settings', go to 'bindings' tab and remove the two 'aumix' bindings
[13:50] <TheSheep> then it should be working
[13:50] <TheSheep> you can also run 'alsamixer' in a terminal to get an advanced volume control
[13:51] <narothepharoh> there is no bindings tab in my keyboard preferences
[13:51] <TheSheep> narothepharoh: I don't have an english version handy, don't remember the exact name, second tab from the left
[13:53] <narothepharoh> TheSheep: it wont let me click on anything there
[13:53] <TheSheep> narothepharoh: add a new profile on the left
[13:53] <TheSheep> narothepharoh: there hsould be a "+" button there
[13:53] <TheSheep> narothepharoh: the name doesn't matter
[13:54] <narothepharoh> there are 3 aumix bindings. remove all?
[13:55] <TheSheep> narothepharoh: yes
[13:55] <TheSheep> narothepharoh: the volume control plugin handles them now
[13:57] <narothepharoh> TheSheep: I was able to get volume control after that then turned the switch off for the digital output jack and it works. Thanks man I appreciate it.
[13:59] <TheSheep> narothepharoh: great
[14:00] <narothepharoh> I dealt with this before and noone could help so i installed a different os
[14:03] <TheSheep> narothepharoh: any solution is good, as long as it gives the desired results
[15:24] <Annirak> The machine which I was running my mysqld had its chipset die.  Now I'm getting the message that mysql can't bind to port 3306.  What can I do to fix it?
[15:26] <TheSheep> Annirak: check what other thing is using that port
[15:26] <Annirak> How?
[15:28] <TheSheep> Annirak: using netstat
[15:32] <Annirak> TheSheep: I can bind the port in python
[15:38] <zoredache> so a 'netstat -ntlp' doesn't show anything listening on 3306?
[15:47] <ant0n> Hi ! Anyone as can tell me how to install new themes in xubuntu xfce ?
[15:48] <TheSheep> ant0n: sure, just unpack them to the .themes directory in your home directory
[15:48] <ant0n> Ok, and it should work then ? :)
[15:49] <TheSheep> ant0n: yes, they should then appear in the theme selection menu
[15:51] <ant0n> I can't find .themes under /home/ant0n I can see "hidden files".
[15:53] <siggjen> mkdir /home/ant0n/.themes
[15:54] <ant0n> Ok!
[15:54] <ant0n> Just go to home/ant0n and create a new dir?
[15:54] <siggjen> yes
[15:54] <siggjen> or just paste my line into run command or terminal
[15:55] <ant0n> Ok, I did it in the terminal
[15:59] <ant0n> I'cant find my theme as I extracted to .themes in my theme chooser.
[16:01] <TheSheep> ant0n: is it a gtk theme or an xfce theme?
[16:03] <ant0n> xfce theme
[16:08] <TheSheep> ant0n: then it will be listed in the window manager settings
[16:09] <ant0n> I've got something named emerald theme manager, should i look in that prg ?
[16:11] <TheSheep> ant0n: that's for emnerald themes, for compiz
[16:11] <TheSheep> ant0n: it has separate themes
[16:11] <ant0n> Ah, and copmiz don't work for me.
[16:12] <ant0n> I've swedish language, so how to find window manager settingd?
[16:12] <ant0n> s
[16:13] <TheSheep> it's in settings, it has an icon with two windows
[16:14] <ant0n> I found it I think
[16:14] <ant0n> Yep i found it and it's working, thanks :)
[16:15] <ant0n> Is there anything I can do to get my panel look like the "dock" in osx?
[16:17] <ant0n> Without using compiz, bcs I've VIA Unichrome grpcard and it's not supported.
[16:18] <TheSheep> ant0n: there is this 'awn' thing
[16:18] <TheSheep> ant0n: it works with xfce if you have compositing enabled
[16:19] <ant0n> compositing, what is that, and can I find that awn thing in synaptic?
[16:19] <prc320> How do I share with ubuntu 7.10 and xubuntu?
[16:20] <siggjen> prc320: what do you want to share?
[16:20] <prc320> siggjen some files
[16:21] <siggjen> with me?
[16:21] <prc320> no, ooo files
[16:22] <siggjen> please tell more about that sharing
[16:22] <siggjen> i prefer using nfs between my Linux machines
[16:22] <siggjen> samba is more useful to windows machines
[16:23] <siggjen> ftp can be used everywhere
[16:23] <siggjen> lots of people prefer to share trough some kind of p2p network
[16:23] <prc320> I am in xubuntu and I want to share a file on ubuntu
[16:23] <siggjen> the easiest would be to set up nfs then i guess
[16:24] <prc320> then what?
[16:24] <siggjen> ask google about sharing files via nfs
[16:24] <zoredache> actually it might be even easier (and a whole lot more secure) to use ssh for sharing files
[16:25] <prc320> ok siggjen
[16:25] <zoredache> all you have to do is install openssh-server on one side, and use sshfs on the other
[16:26] <prc320> zoredache how do you do that?
[16:26] <siggjen> zoredache: true, scp is a nice option, but on local networks i think nfs is better
[16:48] <reaper21> I have a quick question if you don't mind me asking
[16:48] <zoredache> just ask, you dont' have to ask to ask
[16:49] <reaper21> I installed Xubuntu 7.10 and for some reason it never loads the desktop. I edited the Xorg and tried loading the vesa driver still no luck. How can I fix it
[16:51] <zoredache> what do you mean by it won't load the desktop.  Do you mean the xorg never start at all and you get a command line only?
[16:58] <julian_> question: im trying to compile my own kernel and when i use in the kernel config under Processor family: > 3. 586/K5/5x86/6x86/6x86MX (M586) what do i have to set while compiling it? the --arch config set to make-kpkg ???
[16:58] <julian_> cause i get errors while compiling
[16:59] <zoredache> you shouldn't have to set --arch at all
[16:59] <reaper21> zoredache: It will load xorg, but leaves me xterm
[17:01] <julian_> i didnt set it, but i get errors
[17:01] <julian_> so i thought there might be the error
[17:02] <zoredache> reaper21: that sounds like you are getting a 'failsafe session'.  Are  you trying to manually start xorg?  You might try stopping it, and then using 'startxfce4' and see if you get a desktop correctly
[17:03] <zoredache> julian_: may I ask, why are you trying to build your own kernel?  And what version are you trying to build?
[17:03] <julian_> i installed build-essential and linux-headers also the linux-source .. then i unpacked the source and copied the config-<uname -r> from /boot/ to the source folder opened it didnt touch it saved and tried to compile
[17:04] <zoredache> when you copied the config file you copied it to '.config'?
[17:04] <julian_> zoredache, sure you may ask :) .. i need oss build in the kernel instead of alsa for a soundtool which i need. and im trying to build 2.6.22
[17:05] <julian_> zoredach yeah i copied: sudo cp /boot/config-<uname -r> .config  (while i was in the source folder)
[17:06] <zoredache> what was the error you got?
[17:06] <zoredache> pastebin it, if it long
[17:06] <julian_> the error changes everytime
[17:06] <julian_> without changing the conf
[17:06] <julian_> http://pastebin.com/m66510022 is one of them
[17:07] <julian_> at the moment im compiling again and saving everything into a log
[17:07] <julian_> i compile with the command: sudo make-kpkg --initrd --revision test1 binary just for information
[17:09] <zoredache> instead of binary I would have used 'kernel_image kernel_headers'
[17:09] <zoredache> but I doubt that is your problem
[17:09] <julian_> i tried kernel_image, but after 10 rows or something it said: nothing to do
[17:11] <zoredache> are you using a 'make-kpkg clean' before you try to compile it each time?
[17:11] <julian_> yes
[17:11] <julian_> and its a very fresh install of xubuntu
[17:11] <julian_> i just installed xchat nothing else
[17:11] <zoredache> and you are getting a different error each time...   That is very unusual
[17:12] <julian_> the rest is normal isntallation of the xubuntu live cd
[17:12] <julian_> yeah
[17:12] <julian_> sometimes at the net/atl
[17:12] <julian_> sometimes i stops @ bitmap.o
[17:12] <zoredache> the last time I saw something like that, it turned out to be a half-failed stick of RAM
[17:12] <julian_> i tried that also
[17:12] <julian_> i used ram test xubuntu
[17:12] <julian_> didnt fail at all
[17:18] <zoredache> julian_: well it seems like you have tried all the obvious things...  Which means you are past the point I can help... You might also try asking in #ubuntu or some of the other more generic channels.
[17:19] <julian_> zoredache, i asked there before and didnt get an answer at all ;/
[17:20] <julian_> maybe you can have a little little look at the log ;)
[17:20] <zoredache> do you have another computer with ubuntu or debian on it?  You could try compiling from another machine
[17:21] <julian_> i have another one yeah i installed ubuntu on it will try it later
[17:21] <julian_> what to compare then?
[17:21] <zoredache> sorry?
[17:23] <zoredache> anyway feel free to post your logfile.  I don't know how much I can help though...  It is made difficult because you seem to be using a language I don't speak on your system
[17:23] <julian_> yeah its german ;/
[17:27] <julian_> a friend of mine told me not to just copy the old conf
[17:27] <julian_> i should use make oldconfig instead
[17:27] <julian_> there is a huge difference between it
[17:29] <julian_> i hate it it seems that this time (although i didnt expect it at all) is going to compile completely
[17:29] <julian_> without doing anything different as before
[17:34] <julian_> oh no
[17:34] <julian_> this time it had problems with sound
[19:04] <slow-motion> hi
[19:10] <tech404> After installing the nvidia driver my resolution settings are to low. I tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and that didn't work and some googleing didnt bring up anything. The settings manager wont let me pick anything over 800x600
[19:10] <tech404> I am using the hardy beta
[19:10] <siggjen> tech404: try sudo nvidia-settings
[19:14] <tech404> it wasn't installed... after installing it told me that it didn't look like I was using the nvidia driver... could this be because I am using the legacy driver?
[19:14] <tech404> i double checked and I am using the nvidia driver
[19:17] <tech404> Xorg.0.log says "(II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "1280x1024" (hsync out of range)" but it is fine for the monitor and was working before I installed the nvidia driver
[19:19] <siggjen> maybe you can get it to search for monitor?
[19:23] <tech404> I am unsure on how that would be done.... dpkg-reconfigure doesn't ask many questions anymore and that would have been my first guess
[19:23] <zoke> would xubuntu run on a P1 ?
[19:25] <tech404> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[21:04] <julian_> im so much to stupid to compile my own kernel
[21:04] <julian_> where can i get the original source for the 2.6.22-14  kernel?
[21:08] <hhlp> julian_, maybe in kernel.org
[21:15] <julian_> now i get an error while installing with synaptics ;/
[21:17] <ere4si> what's the error?
[21:18] <ere4si> !aptfix
[21:18] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[21:24] <slow-motion> n8
[21:37] <jin> hi, how do you enable desktop effects on Xubuntu?
[21:37] <zoredache> !compiz
[21:37] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[21:45] <kiki67100> Salut
[21:45] <kiki67100> Bonsoir plutot
[21:46] <kiki67100> A t-il quelqu'un ?
[21:46] <ere4si> english please here :)
[21:46] <kiki67100> :o ok
[21:46] <kiki67100> no problem
[21:47] <kiki67100> i'm problem 'ARK' crash :s
[21:47] <ere4si> there is a french channel
[21:47] <ere4si> I don't use ark - ask again in a min
[21:47] <kiki67100> Where a channel french ?
[21:47] <ere4si> !fr
[21:48] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[21:48] <kiki67100> Ty :)
[21:48] <ere4si> np :)
[21:48] <kiki67100> You can nevertheless help me?
[21:49] <ere4si> not with ark - I don't know it - but was there an error message?
[21:50] <kiki67100> Yess i have
[21:50] <kiki67100> see
[21:50] <kiki67100> in command line
[21:50] <kiki67100> ark (kdeutils): FATAL: libark could not found. Aborting.
[21:50] <kiki67100> ERROR: Communication problem with ark, it probably crashed.
[21:51] <kiki67100> i'm in backtrack v2
[21:52] <kiki67100> you can help me ?
[21:52] <zoredache> you should probably ask in the kubuntu or kubuntu-fr channel.  Ark is a KDE program
[21:53] <kiki67100> :o , Sorry
[21:53] <kiki67100> Ty good nigth man :)
[21:53] <kiki67100> night
[21:54] <zoredache> you don't need to be sorry,  I just don't know anything.. :|
[21:54] <zoredache> good luck on finding an answer though
[21:56] <kiki67100> ty ;)
[21:56] <kiki67100> bye
[22:12] <fortyforty> hey guys
[22:13] <fortyforty> i have a problem with installing xubuntu to an older computer of mine
[22:14] <fortyforty> wait is this working
[22:14] <fortyforty> ?
[22:15] <fortyforty> say hello?
[22:15] <fortyforty> hello
[22:15] <zoredache> hello...  ask your question, be patient please.. :)
[22:16] <fortyforty> thank you
[22:17] <fortyforty> Im trying to dual boot xubuntu on an older computer and after i hit "start/install xubuntu" it goes to the loading screen and then dies, it gets all pixelated and just stays taht way, any ideas on whats going on?
[22:19] <zoredache> are you using the livecd, or the alternate image?
[22:19] <fortyforty> livecd
[22:19] <fortyforty> the newest version
[22:19] <zoredache> It probably doesn't like your video card or something like that
[22:20] <zoredache> the alternete installer cd tends to be a lot better about working with stubborn hardware
[22:20] <fortyforty> okay, so give that one a try?
[22:22] <fortyforty> ill give it try, thank you for your help.  im pretty new at linux
[22:32] <wubrgamer> is xubuntu losing its status as an officially supported desktop ?
[22:33] <wubrgamer> it's in universe for hardy ? why ?
[22:34] <ere4si> afaik xubuntu has never been officially supported - it's community based
[22:36] <maxamillion> wubrgamer: its not officially supported by canonical as ubuntu is, but it is an officially recognized child distro
[22:37] <wubrgamer> huh, same guy ! hi maxamillion !
[22:37] <wubrgamer> and thanks for that ! haha
[22:38] <maxamillion> wubrgamer: anytime :)
[22:38] <maxamillion> wubrgamer: i still hang out in the channel here and monitor it, but i just don't do much else for the project
[23:11] <charlie-tca> hello, just looking around at this time
[23:12] <ere4si> !hi | charlie-tca
[23:12] <ubotu> charlie-tca: Hi! Welcome to #xubuntu!