| awen_ | nixternal: fixed :) ... what is the best thing to do with the debdiff? | 00:02 |
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| awen_ | I've subscribed ubuntu-main-sponsors ... but if anyone has the time and sponsoring powers > bug 178356 | 00:06 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 178356 in kipi-plugins "[hardy] batch resize generates "error"" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178356 | 00:06 |
| awen_ | g'night (if anyone is still awake) | 00:15 |
| CheGuevara | night | 00:18 |
| nosrednaekim | lol.... http://jaysonrowe.wordpress.com/2008/03/24/still-pleased-with-kde-4/ | 01:35 |
| CheGuevara | At times it seems Ubuntu doesn’t have a KDE Team - just Jonathan Riddell (does that dude ever get to sleep?) | 01:37 |
| CheGuevara | :P | 01:37 |
| yuriy | oh, you're quoting | 01:38 |
| CheGuevara | yeah | 01:39 |
| nosrednaekim | read Riddell'scomment :) | 01:39 |
| CheGuevara | yeah i was just laughing at that | 01:41 |
| nosrednaekim | ah.. :) | 01:42 |
| yuriy | hmm scim seems to be making my kde4 apps take a long time to start | 01:43 |
| nosrednaekim | I think we should give nixternal, Hobbsee et. al some more publicity :) | 01:43 |
| yuriy | wow removing all scim* packages fixed that quite nicely | 01:45 |
| yuriy | shouldn't kde4 appear on https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-team/+packagebugs ? | 01:47 |
| ryanakca | lol :) | 02:04 |
| jjesse | what are we lol about? | 02:09 |
| jjesse | i love how in 5-a-day stats "ubuntu-chicago" is listed as a team but nixternal is the only one on the team that has delt with 5-a-day bugs | 02:14 |
| jjesse | it still is the 2nd team in stats | 02:14 |
| yuriy | i just sent an email to my loco to start participating, but i'm not too confident anything will come of it. chances are you'll see the same thing there | 02:15 |
| * yuriy nudges n8k99 | 02:16 | |
| CheGuevara | yuriy, am working on your bug about removing the zoom buttons | 02:16 |
| CheGuevara | do you agree that might as well remove the whole toolbox | 02:16 |
| CheGuevara | since it doesn't really do anything without the zoom buttons | 02:17 |
| yuriy | CheGuevara: i do, aseigo wouldn't be too happy | 02:17 |
| CheGuevara | meh | 02:17 |
| * n8k99 pops head ot of shell | 02:17 | |
| yuriy | would be neat if we could get the lock widgets button on there | 02:17 |
| CheGuevara | he said its ok to do it downstream | 02:17 |
| CheGuevara | :P | 02:17 |
| yuriy | i think it's there in trunk | 02:17 |
| nixternal | mmm, pizza and beer | 02:19 |
| CheGuevara | hmm | 02:19 |
| jjesse | i need to come to chicago again to get more pizza and beer with you | 02:19 |
| nixternal | you didn't even have a beer last time | 02:20 |
| nixternal | either did I though | 02:20 |
| nixternal | but man, beer is wonderful with pizza | 02:20 |
| jjesse | i know cause work was paying for it :) | 02:20 |
| nixternal | bah, time to take the dog for a walk...bbiaf | 02:20 |
| * n8k99 pokes yuriy with, with, with something cleaver and witty | 02:21 | |
| * yuriy hopes something cleaver and witty == `add-5-a-day` | 02:22 | |
| jjesse | ok 5-a-day is done, time for bed :) | 02:23 |
| CheGuevara | nn | 02:24 |
| nixternal | hrmm, how do you get the 'e' key working again in KDE 4? | 02:51 |
| nixternal | Riddell: for printer-applet, you need to add the includes for KDE4/MacroLibrary in the CMakeLists.txt | 03:00 |
| nixternal | 22:10:34 [ DrCh4r135] kubuntu has pretty much replaced windows for me, save for the odd game craving. | 03:47 |
| nixternal | w00t, I finally got the Dr. to get off of Windows! | 03:47 |
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| Riddell | nixternal: KDE4/MacroLibrary ? | 10:39 |
| Artemis_Fowl | Riddell: I almost managed to create a System Settings module counterpart for KGRUBEditor | 10:50 |
| Artemis_Fowl | Riddell: with minor alterations to the initial code | 10:50 |
| Riddell | oh, nice | 10:51 |
| rbrunhuber-au | hobbsee: are you here? | 11:31 |
| Riddell | awen-: why use python-gobject? | 11:38 |
| awen- | Riddell: receiving dbus signals only work with DBusGMainLoop eg. gobject... the DBusQtMainLoop is broken in some mysterious way | 11:40 |
| Riddell | awen-: it works with qt 4 | 11:41 |
| Riddell | not qt 3 though | 11:41 |
| awen- | Riddell: exactly... but is it better to use qt4 then? | 11:42 |
| Riddell | awen-: margionally, we already have it on the CDs | 11:42 |
| awen- | Riddell: okay, didn't know it was already there... i can look into changing it later today; unless you will change those three lines yourself :) | 11:45 |
| Riddell | awen-: ImportError: No module named pcop | 11:46 |
| * awen- is a bit confused... we use dcop functions in powermanager already, but python-dcop isn't a dependency? | 11:51 | |
| Riddell | awen-: is pcop a typo? | 11:52 |
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| Riddell | awen-: I think there are two python dcop implementations and you might be using the wrong one | 11:53 |
| Riddell | sebas: true? ^^ | 11:53 |
| awen- | Riddell: there are at least two | 11:55 |
| awen- | Riddell: looks like I've been looking at two of the "wrong" dcop implementations | 11:56 |
| sebas | Riddell: Uhm, could be | 12:04 |
| sebas | I think one comes with PyKDE, one is sort-of standalone | 12:04 |
| sebas | But it's a long tiem ago I played with it, I might be wrong | 12:04 |
| awen- | sebas: you are right | 12:05 |
| sebas | Cool ;-) | 12:05 |
| awen- | :) | 12:05 |
| awen- | Riddell: I'll look in to using the build in dcop client and switch to qt-mainloop instead | 12:05 |
| awen- | install python-dcop if you want to test it as it is now | 12:06 |
| smarter_ | I played a bit with https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/kubuntu-konqueror-shortcuts/trunk feel free to blame me if it doesn't work anymore ;) | 12:59 |
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| \sh | window 14 | 13:00 |
| \sh | grmpf | 13:00 |
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| ryanov | Any living folks in here? | 14:01 |
| ryanov | Looking for a little assistance maybe with a busted KDM. Worked a little while after upgrading, but not anymore. | 14:02 |
| Jucato | ryanov: user support channel is #kubuntu (for Hardy #ubuntu+1 and for KDE 4 #kubuntu-kde4) | 14:03 |
| ryanov | For Hardy with KDE? Or would it be kubuntu+1? | 14:05 |
| jussi01 | ryanov: no, #ubuntu+1 supports all of hardy | 14:05 |
| Jucato | ryanov: hardy with KDE 3 #ubuntu+1 | 14:05 |
| ryanov | OK. Sounds good. Thanks for the help! | 14:05 |
| ryanov | Yeah, that's what I'm using. Thankws. | 14:05 |
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| ScottK | Riddell: I'm looking at awen's kde-guidance package now. | 15:16 |
| Riddell | ScottK: see his and mine discussion from earlier today, it should use python-qt4-dbus not glib and should use the correct python dcop | 15:18 |
| Riddell | but testing (and fixes) welcome | 15:18 |
| ScottK | Riddell: OK. I'll go ahead and focus on my displayconfig stuff and add his on top of that if he updates it. | 15:20 |
| seele | Riddell: do you know if nosrednaekim has a ppa of the current printing stuff? | 15:21 |
| Riddell | seele: no, it's in bzr. bzr branch http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/system-config-printer/kde-port | 15:25 |
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| nixternal | Riddell: I can upload the CMakeLists.txt I edited for printer-applet...but there is also a problem with the create_exe_symlink.cmake file | 15:28 |
| \sh | hmm..no konversation for kde4? | 15:29 |
| * Riddell checks to see if he turned over two pages at once | 15:29 | |
| nixternal | what I added to the CMakeLists.txt was 'find_package(KDE4 REQUIRED)' \n 'include(KDE4Defaults)' to get the app to build out | 15:29 |
| nixternal | \sh: no yet there isn't | 15:30 |
| nixternal | 4.1 I think | 15:30 |
| Riddell | nixternal: to build out? | 15:30 |
| \sh | nixternal: damn ;) | 15:30 |
| nixternal | Riddell: w/o those 2 lines, CMake doesn't know what 'macro_optional_find_package()' is | 15:30 |
| \sh | but funny ... desktop effects on intel graphics card are much better then on ati with oss drivers | 15:30 |
| nixternal | \sh: tell me about it...KDE 4 on my lappy rocks, on my desktop with a radeon, using either fglrx or the oss drivers, and building from trunk, my system constanstly freezes | 15:31 |
| \sh | nixternal: yeah | 15:31 |
| nixternal | on a 64bit box..but I also believe that happens with distro packages as well | 15:31 |
| \sh | nixternal: I have only troubles on amd64 + ati radeon x300 | 15:32 |
| \sh | (never tried the fglrx stuff) | 15:32 |
| nixternal | radeon 9700 which uses the r300 driver here | 15:32 |
| Riddell | nixternal: 'find_package(KDE4 REQUIRED)' is in kdereview/CMakeLists.txt | 15:32 |
| nixternal | umm, when was it added? | 15:33 |
| \sh | hmmm | 15:33 |
| nixternal | oh, never mind | 15:33 |
| \sh | why can't I set more then 2 virtual desktops? | 15:33 |
| nixternal | Riddell: I was building printer-applet out by itself | 15:33 |
| \sh | oh damn..that's user unfriendly | 15:33 |
| Riddell | nixternal: what's wrong with create_exe_symlink.cmake ? | 15:33 |
| nixternal | I forgot that is the way it was setup for kdereview | 15:33 |
| \sh | pager rows and desktops can be misunderstood :( | 15:34 |
| nixternal | I have no idea, it just crashes out of the build process when running it | 15:34 |
| Riddell | nixternal: maybe add those with if (NOT KDE4_FOUND) a la step/CMakeLists.txt | 15:34 |
| nixternal | let me try building from kdereview/ | 15:34 |
| nixternal | Riddell: take back everything I said | 15:39 |
| nixternal | builds fine from kdereview/ | 15:39 |
| Riddell | nixternal: if you're in a mood for cmake though, feel free to add a tests for python-cups (required) and hal-cups-utils (recommended) | 15:39 |
| nixternal | k, I am working on the docs for printer-applet | 15:40 |
| Riddell | nixternal: it needs docs? | 15:40 |
| nixternal | annma and I are making sure everything that comes out of kdereview has docs | 15:40 |
| nixternal | it should have docs, yes | 15:40 |
| Riddell | 13:40 < annma> and you are right that no doc is needed | 15:41 |
| nixternal | hrmm | 15:41 |
| Riddell | I don't know what docs would say | 15:41 |
| nixternal | groovy, that knocks down one task then :) | 15:41 |
| nixternal | docs removed | 15:42 |
| \sh | hmm.icons are missing in the main menu...K->Applications -> no menu icons...known? | 15:44 |
| \sh | and kopete is crashing with jabber ;) | 15:49 |
| Riddell | \sh: 3 or 4? | 15:49 |
| \sh | 4 | 15:49 |
| \sh | I only have kde4 on this desktop | 15:49 |
| \sh | Riddell: tried to connect against my jabber server | 15:50 |
| \sh | do we have debug packages for kopete? | 15:51 |
| Riddell | unlikely | 15:51 |
| Nightrose | \sh: same happens for me when it is open / does not crash when it is minimized to the tray | 15:53 |
| Nightrose | when I connect | 15:53 |
| Nightrose | opening it after that is fine | 15:53 |
| Riddell | allee: you had something to be uploaded to main, did that happen? | 15:56 |
| \sh | Nightrose: well, it's not even minimized | 15:56 |
| nixternal | ooh, 4.4-beta package...you rock Riddell :) | 16:01 |
| nixternal | no more compiling by hand | 16:01 |
| * jussi01 sighs at yao_zizuan in #kubuntu :( | 16:07 | |
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| nixternal | I love when people want to protest something in Kubuntu, however have not one ioda to back it up, nothing to suggest as an improvement | 16:19 |
| nixternal | wasting breath and keystrokes, there for consuming more power than is needed :p | 16:19 |
| awen- | sebas: around? | 16:21 |
| ScottK | awen-: I'm working on Guidance today. Will you have your changes updated soon or should I just go ahead when I'm ready? | 16:27 |
| awen- | ScottK: I'm trying to get the helper app approved; but I'm kind of stuck at the last bit... you shouldn't happen to be an expert in python + Qt? | 16:28 |
| ScottK | Python I'm decent at. Qt absolutely hopeless. | 16:30 |
| ScottK | nixternal knows Qt and a bit of Python. Maybe he would help? | 16:30 |
| awen- | ScottK: okay... your know half of the equation, that's more than me ;) | 16:30 |
| awen- | the gobject mainloop should be replaced with a Qt mainloop, but this just wont work for me: http://awen.dk/packages/gpmhelper/gpmhelper.py | 16:31 |
| awen- | nixternal: any good advice? ^^ | 16:31 |
| Riddell | allee: import dbus.mainloop.qt ? | 16:33 |
| Riddell | awen- rather | 16:34 |
| Riddell | dbus.mainloop.qt.DBusQtMainLoop(set_as_default=True) | 16:34 |
| allee | Riddell: ? is this about kblue* script? | 16:35 |
| ScottK | allee: It's about tab completion problems. | 16:35 |
| allee | lol | 16:35 |
| Riddell | allee: but I also asked about if you got your upload uploaded from friday | 16:36 |
| allee | allee: ah, right. No. Minutes after I asked you debian upload a new version with the 'my' fix + some other fixes. So IMHO a merge/sync is better, but didn't find the time yet to look at it | 16:37 |
| awen- | Riddell: that part I've got :) ... but what should I use instead of gobject as the loop? | 16:37 |
| allee | ah, tab problem agian Riddell ^^ :) | 16:37 |
| Riddell | awen-: app.exec_() is right | 16:38 |
| Riddell | allee: ok, let us know when you know | 16:38 |
| awen- | Riddell: and i should do a "app = QApplication(sys.argv)" right? | 16:39 |
| Riddell | awen-: yes | 16:40 |
| awen- | Riddell: that gives me this error: "RuntimeError: the qt and PyQt4.QtCore modules both wrap the QObject class" | 16:40 |
| awen- | Riddell: reuploaded the file | 16:43 |
| * awen- believes that he is doing a very common error... but just can't see it | 16:44 | |
| Riddell | awen-: oh, it won't work because we're using qt4 (dbus) and qt3 (dcop) | 16:44 |
| Riddell | oh well | 16:44 |
| Riddell | awen-: infact does dcop work at all without a qt3 mainloop? | 16:45 |
| Riddell | if so I guess it just needs to use the glib one | 16:46 |
| awen- | Riddell: we are only sending dcop events... and that works with the glib mainloop | 16:46 |
| Riddell | awen-: ok, lets do that then | 16:47 |
| awen- | Riddell: I've changed it to use the right "dcop" implementation... so I'll just stick with the gobject? | 16:47 |
| Riddell | awen-: yeah, guess so | 16:49 |
| ScottK | awen-: Does that mean your change is ready to go? | 16:50 |
| awen- | ScottK: yeah... I'm just preparing the debdiff for you to merge :) | 16:50 |
| ScottK | awen-: Great. | 16:51 |
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| awen- | ScottK: http://awen.dk/packages/gpmhelper/kde-guidance_0.8.0svn20080103-0ubuntu8.debdiff <-- here you go | 16:54 |
| ScottK | awen-: Getting ... | 16:54 |
| awen- | ScottK: it doesn't include a fix for the userconfig unicode problem as it didn't seem to work... I hope we get some feedback on the bug soon (and thanks for the correction to my mindslip ;) ) | 16:55 |
| ScottK | OK. Sounds reasonable. | 16:56 |
| awen- | ScottK: do we need some bug numbers to the changlog (know they are there, but haven't been looking at them)... or should we just close them afterwards? | 16:57 |
| ScottK | It's much better to get them in the changelog so people can go back to it later if they need to. | 16:58 |
| awen- | ScottK: I'll go look for them... can you hold it half an hour | 17:01 |
| awen- | ? | 17:01 |
| ScottK | awen-: Yes. I've got more work to do yet. | 17:01 |
| Riddell | anyone able to recreate https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/206154 ? | 17:06 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 206154 in kdebase "kded goes to 100% when plugging in a pen drive" [Undecided,New] | 17:06 |
| jussi01 | Riddell: not here, goes to 1% | 17:08 |
| awen- | ScottK: you will also need to upload this together with kde-guidance: http://awen.dk/packages/gpmhelper/kdeutils_3.5.9-0ubuntu3.debdiff ... or you will have a lot of keypresses interpreted twice | 17:10 |
| ScottK | Ah. | 17:10 |
| ScottK | Riddell: ^^^ Would you please look that one over and make sure you're OK with it. | 17:10 |
| Riddell | ScottK: seen it, fine with me | 17:11 |
| Riddell | jussi01: me neither | 17:11 |
| awen- | Riddell: can't reproduce it either | 17:12 |
| jussi01 | Riddell: is that in gutsy or hardy? | 17:13 |
| Riddell | jussi01: hardy I think | 17:15 |
| jussi01 | Riddell: ok, thats what ive tested on. :) | 17:15 |
| awen- | Riddell: it has kde*3.5.9* somewhere in the traceback? | 17:15 |
| awen- | so it is hardy | 17:15 |
| awen- | ScottK: here is a new changlog entry: http://awen.dk/packages/gpmhelper/changelog.gpmhelper | 17:19 |
| ScottK | awen-: Did you just add the one line. | 17:20 |
| awen- | ScottK: yeah | 17:20 |
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| kishore | hi all | 17:41 |
| kishore | I am a KDE enthusiast and would like to build and work with trunk | 17:42 |
| kishore | riddel suggests that it would be a good idea to have a PPA that updates itself | 17:43 |
| kishore | what i want to know here is what changes does kubuntu packaging make to KDE sources and | 17:43 |
| kishore | are there patches available for the debian directories as is used by kubuntu packaging | 17:44 |
| Riddell | hi kishore | 17:48 |
| Riddell | you may want to talk to apachelogger, who I believe is working on something similar | 17:48 |
| Riddell | kishore: our packaging is available with apt-get source, the patches for kubuntu are in debian/patches/kubuntu_* | 17:49 |
| kishore | oh thanks.. good to hear as i am more instested developing using kde4.1 rather than 4.1 itself | 17:50 |
| kishore | but consider building 4.1 necessary | 17:50 |
| kishore | is there a way i can get only patches for the package | 17:52 |
| kishore | internet is slow around here | 17:52 |
| Riddell | kishore: you can try the packaging bzr archive, although its often out of date https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/ | 17:54 |
| kishore | ok thanks | 17:56 |
| ScottK | So, I've built, installed, and tested the new kde-guidance on one machine. On another machine at the same time, pbuilder has managed to build a chroot and gather the kdeutils build-deps.... | 18:24 |
| * ScottK just loves these effing huge kde packages | 18:25 | |
| jussi01 | ScottK: think of it as "relaxation" time :D | 18:29 |
| ScottK | jussi01: Not for me. I'm doing Kubuntu stuff to procrastinate $WORK and so it's taking away my excuse. | 18:37 |
| jussi01 | ScottK: hehe | 18:40 |
| aboe | can somebody help me with kde4 oxygen theme, font color of the menubar won't change | 18:41 |
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| allee | Riddell: to get kipi-plugins 0.1.5 final into hardy, we need to start with sync libkdcraw 0.1.4 (new version) from debian. Can you do it with your super-archive-powers? | 19:12 |
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| allee | ^^^ libkdcraw bumps API version | 19:14 |
| ScottK | awen-: I have brightness again on my old laptop. Thanks. | 19:16 |
| ScottK | Riddell and awen-: kdeutils and kde-guidance uploaded. | 19:17 |
| awen- | ScottK: no problem... glad to hear that it works just as it should :) | 19:18 |
| ScottK | There was enough bugfix goodness I went ahead and uploaded kde-guidance. I have a couple more things to do in displayconfig, but they're rather more scary, so wanted to get this done first. | 19:18 |
| awen- | ScottK: thanks | 19:23 |
| ScottK | awen-: No. Thank you for your contributions to Kubuntu. | 19:24 |
| yuriy | afternoon | 19:24 |
| yuriy | so bugsquad is doing gdm + gnome-screensaver for hug day this thursday | 19:24 |
| awen- | ScottK: about the userconfig + unicode; i'm pretty stuck with my limited python knowledge, if you wan't to look at it here is the patch i tried with http://awen.dk/packages/kubuntu_20_userconfig_utf8.patch and the best documentation i could find http://docs.python.org/tut/node5.html#SECTION005130000000000000000 | 19:25 |
| yuriy | i looked at kdm bugs -- searching for kdm in kdebase turns up 47, 23 new. doesn't seem that urgent | 19:25 |
| yuriy | anybody have better ideas? | 19:25 |
| uga | Riddell: it'd have been nice if the commit stated good reasons to remove ktip.. there's people getting annoyed at the "bwahahaha" kubuntisation | 19:25 |
| uga | Riddell: just noticing that, no annoyance from me | 19:26 |
| ScottK | awen-: Thanks. | 19:26 |
| awen- | ScottK: i will not have time to look at it tomorrow, but i could give it another go on thursday... still, i would appreciate a second pair of eyes at it :) | 19:26 |
| ScottK | awen-: Depends on how much time I have tomorrow and what displayconfig evil I can manage. | 19:27 |
| awen- | ScottK: of course... you're doing some solid improvements on that one | 19:28 |
| awen- | yuriy: what about some of the large kde "metapackages" like kdeutils or the like (last time I looked at some of them they had some large bug counts) | 19:32 |
| ScottK | Where is kde for kde4? Ought to include that. | 19:33 |
| ScottK | kde/kdm | 19:33 |
| jpatrick | kdm-kde4? | 19:34 |
| ScottK | Dunno. | 19:34 |
| * ScottK is strictly kde3 still. | 19:34 | |
| jpatrick | !info kdm-kde4 hardy | 19:34 |
| * jpatrick too | 19:34 | |
| awen- | looks like ubotu is strict kde3 too | 19:35 |
| jpatrick | ubotu lies | 19:36 |
| ubotu | Mostly just statistics, but yeah. | 19:36 |
| Riddell | allee: yes I can sync that | 19:41 |
| * awen- cheers allee for packaging the final kipi-plugins for hardy | 19:42 | |
| allee | Riddell: okay, thx. Fabo will upload fixes for digikam real soon now. So we can hopefully sync that too tomorrow ;) | 19:42 |
| Riddell | uga: hmm, seems albert keeps finding reasons to not like what I do :( | 19:43 |
| allee | awen-: thx, but still 3 bugfixes to backport ;) | 19:43 |
| uga | Riddell: is there going to be a replacement btw? | 19:44 |
| Riddell | uga: there's a plasmoid thingy to introduce to KDE | 19:44 |
| uga | iirc somebody aimed at replacing it a while ago | 19:44 |
| uga | ahk | 19:44 |
| awen- | allee: good luck with them... if you need any help, just ask (i was anyway preparing to begin packaging them myself :) ) | 19:45 |
| allee | awen-: pkg is already in my ppa for quite some time but Gilles and Angelo point me to more and more fixes | 19:46 |
| awen- | allee: okay, i'll go test them out later... /me do really hope they manages hardy | 19:49 |
| allee | awen-: me too ;) | 19:49 |
| yuriy | awen-: too large even. a good subsection of a metapackage would work | 19:51 |
| yuriy | i.e. konqueror bugs | 19:51 |
| yuriy | or the aforementioned kdm but that seems a bit small | 19:51 |
| awen- | yuriy: is konqueror bugs already looked at? ... that sound like a good focus to me | 19:53 |
| yuriy | the other thing i'm thinking is kde4 bugs | 19:53 |
| yuriy | primarily forwarding them upstream | 19:53 |
| yuriy | but i don't know how relevant that is for hardy at this point | 19:53 |
| yuriy | anything like this is going to be annoying to get on a wiki page btw because we don't have a good tagging system | 19:54 |
| awen- | yuriy: just a note... if we ever have a joint ubuntu+kubuntu bug day i would suggest looking at hal bugs | 19:56 |
| yuriy | awen-: these are all joint. tuesdays are non-desktop specific, you could suggest to bdmurray to have a hal one | 19:57 |
| awen- | yuriy: i will do that | 19:58 |
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| mathieu__ | Riddell: that qt beta you blogged about today, its only for hardy? | 20:14 |
| Riddell | mathieu__: yes | 20:15 |
| mathieu__ | thanks | 20:16 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: what do you think about che's question on bug #197865 | 20:25 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 197865 in kdebase-workspace "Zoom out button in plasma should be removed for hardy" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/197865 | 20:25 |
| seele | apachelogger: oi, there was a long painful discussion on the plasma mailing list about that | 20:27 |
| yuriy | seele: did they decide anything on what they think about downstreams removing it for release? | 20:28 |
| apachelogger | I honestly don't care | 20:28 |
| seele | yuriy: i dont see how they could control that and theyre free to be upset if they want | 20:28 |
| apachelogger | what they think about us removing it | 20:28 |
| seele | i think one of the final decisions (but i dont konw what got committed) was to keep the toolbox thing in the corner but disable zooming until it is fixed | 20:29 |
| seele | people were against disabling the toolbox alltogether | 20:29 |
| seele | ok | 20:29 |
| seele | (mt) | 20:29 |
| apachelogger | yeah, I am not sure whether this would be wise all that much | 20:29 |
| apachelogger | the toolbox thingy makes it more visible | 20:30 |
| apachelogger | but since we don't install the extragear plasmoids in hardy there is not much point in that either | 20:30 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: is there a patched amarok for upload? | 20:30 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: I uploaded my changes to bzr | 20:31 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: ok, thanks | 20:32 |
| seaLne | what is the correct status for a bug (that i reported a while ago) that isn't relevant anymore? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/koffice/+bug/58399 | 20:38 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 58399 in koffice "koffice dapper to edgy upgrade problem" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 20:38 |
| yuriy | seaLne: invalid | 20:39 |
| seaLne | k, haven't triaged in a while and couldn't rember | 20:39 |
| _StefanS_ | Riddell: I guess the gtk2-engines-qtcurve thingy is too late.. ? | 20:42 |
| _StefanS_ | Riddell: thinking about Hobbsee's email | 20:42 |
| jpatrick | Riddell: I hereby dislike LUKS | 20:45 |
| * jpatrick stomps on crap patch | 20:45 | |
| seaLne | jpatrick: in hardy when you plug in a encrypted disk and it prompts to decrypt, is it supposed to mount it or just leave create a /dev/mapper/ device? | 20:49 |
| jpatrick | seaLne: both | 20:50 |
| seaLne | hmm in both gutsy and now hardy it dosen't mount it for me wasn't entirely sure if it should | 20:50 |
| seaLne | is that a known bug? i wasn't sure what it would be a bug against | 20:51 |
| jpatrick | seaLne: the gusy package is outdated (I think) | 20:52 |
| seaLne | i wasn't to bothered about it but when i just got it in hardy... | 20:53 |
| seaLne | jpatrick: i take it it is mounting for you? | 20:54 |
| apachelogger | someone please try to reproduce bug #199630 | 20:55 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 199630 in kdebase-kde4 "Bookmark > Edit Bookmark does not launch bookmark editor" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/199630 | 20:55 |
| seaLne | jpatrick: btw 3.5.9 | 20:55 |
| jpatrick | seaLne: yeah, ad for buz, who helped test it | 20:56 |
| seaLne | this is a usb hard disk with no partitions just the raw device ie /dev/sdd encrypted and with an xfs filesystem on it | 20:57 |
| apachelogger | stdin: please backport kdelibs for kde3 to the ppa in order to fix bug #199505 | 20:58 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 199505 in kdebase-kde4 "Duplicate KDE3 and KDE4 entries" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/199505 | 20:58 |
| seaLne | is there any know problems with kde4graphics-data from gutsy ppa and ksnapshot-kde4 in hardy conflicting on /usr/lib/kde4/share/dbus-1/interfaces/org.kde.ksnapshot.xml ? not sure if its important and strange that no one else seems to have encountered it | 21:00 |
| seaLne | i guess something changed when the packaging of kde4-graphics became kdegraphics-kde4 or something? | 21:01 |
| apachelogger | seaLne: please report a bug and assign me | 21:01 |
| Serega | Riddell: hey, Jon, I have a next patch, please review: http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/957204 | 21:02 |
| apachelogger | actually I would appreciate it if someone could make a list with all name changes | 21:02 |
| seaLne | apachelogger: Bug #206807 | 21:06 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 206807 in kdegraphics-kde4 "upgrading gutsy+4.0.2 to hardy fails with conflictions on /usr/lib/kde4/share/dbus-1/interfaces/org.kde.ksnapshot.xml" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/206807 | 21:06 |
| apachelogger | seaLne: thanks | 21:07 |
| yuriy | nosrednaekim: you were working on system-config-printer right? | 21:10 |
| nosrednaekim | hrm.... what am I doing wrong here? is there supposed to be some argument to pyqtSignature in this instance? manually connecting the signal to the function works, but it calls it twice (as normal) | 21:10 |
| nosrednaekim | @pyqtSignature("") | 21:10 |
| nosrednaekim | def on_cbPrintMode_activated(self,text): | 21:10 |
| nosrednaekim | yuriy: I am.... still... trying :) | 21:11 |
| yuriy | nosrednaekim: bug 206459 | 21:11 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 206459 in system-config-printer-kde "print status doesn't update automatically" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/206459 | 21:11 |
| awen- | yuriy: i had that bug a week ago or so, but it was gone when i printed yesterday... | 21:13 |
| yuriy | so maybe fixed | 21:13 |
| yuriy | i don't have a printer so i can't test | 21:13 |
| awen- | yuriy: it might be... but the bug misses current package version | 21:14 |
| ScottK | awen-: The Debian kde-guidance maintainer is trying our updates out on Sid. Once we get final for Hardy, I plan on pushing all this up to them. | 21:14 |
| nosrednaekim | awen-: yeah, i've noticed that its updating is rather arbitrary, try running view->reload next time it does that and see if that changes it | 21:14 |
| seaLne | jpatrick: i think i have found the problem with my encrypted volumes, it works if their is a partition table, but dosen't when their isn't | 21:15 |
| seaLne | just tested on a spare pendrive | 21:15 |
| awen- | ScottK: sounds good :) ... what about upstream, is that alive for kde-guidance? | 21:15 |
| ScottK | awen-: Sort of. Riddell has svn access there and he'll handle that. | 21:16 |
| awen- | nosrednaekim: it seemed fixed to me... but rather have you look at the bug ;) | 21:16 |
| nosrednaekim | awen-: I will, its now assigned to me. | 21:17 |
| nosrednaekim | away | 21:17 |
| jpatrick | seaLne: truly odd, why it just stopped working in hardy... | 21:18 |
| yuriy | yes guidance should be kept updated upstream with fixes | 21:18 |
| ScottK | yuriy: Once we get what we're doing for Hardy nailed down, we'll get that done too. | 21:19 |
| seaLne | jpatrick: have you tried with encrypted raw devices rather than a partition? | 21:19 |
| ScottK | I have two significant patches that I have yet to add. | 21:19 |
| awen- | ScottK: okay; thought so... but let's push it upstream that way then... maybe a last final release of kde-guidance before kde 3.5 dies | 21:19 |
| jpatrick | seaLne: not here.. | 21:19 |
| ScottK | awen-: I don't know what else is changed since the last svn snapshot we took. I'd like to hand something to Debian I'm reasonably confident works. | 21:20 |
| awen- | ScottK: someone could try a grand merge of it all and see what happens :) ... but if the hardy package with the current patches shouldn't have any trouble on sid; and it probably holds more changes than the svn anyway | 21:22 |
| awen- | s/but if//1 | 21:23 |
| ScottK | Yes. My theory is update Debian and upstream with what we have, take a new snapshot as soon as Ibex opens and see where we are. | 21:23 |
| seaLne | jpatrick: where is the code for the encrypted decrypting/mounting stuff? | 21:24 |
| jpatrick | seaLne: kdebase - patch kubuntu_*_kiomedialuks.diff | 21:24 |
| awen- | ScottK: that sounds like a reasonable plan... or if someone has contact with upstream, convince them to release a bugfix version when everything is in the svn | 21:25 |
| ScottK | awen-: That'd be Riddell. | 21:25 |
| ryanakca | Riddell: ping, on the test site, did you prefer the story title to be underlined or no? | 21:26 |
| awen- | ScottK: then no problem... just after the hardy release Riddell will have lots of time for that ;) | 21:27 |
| yuriy | < yuriy> yes guidance should be kept updated upstream with fixes <-- sorry i meant that ScottK and awen's fixes should be put upstream, not that i know of any fixes upstream that aren't in hardy | 21:29 |
| * seaLne just confirms for sanity sake that a formated raw non encrypted devices mounts properly, and it does | 21:29 | |
| Riddell | jpatrick: what's wrong with luks now? | 21:29 |
| Riddell | ryanakca: probably none | 21:30 |
| ryanakca | Riddell: ok | 21:30 |
| Dekans | Riddell: are you aware of a bug with kdm in hardy ? | 21:31 |
| Dekans | a black screen on logout | 21:31 |
| Riddell | _StefanS_: it would be improper, although it shouldn't change the screenshots that she says since it changes one style for another one which looks the same | 21:31 |
| Riddell | Dekans: no | 21:32 |
| Dekans | I have this since alpha versions (nvidia-glx on amd64) | 21:33 |
| Riddell | Serega: this looks like it would also need the strings extracted into a .pot | 21:33 |
| Serega | Riddell: right. I have a .pot and russian and ukrainian translation but dunno how to package this stuff | 21:34 |
| seaLne | jpatrick: do you happen to have a spare pendrive or something to confirm that it is the raw device that is causing the problem? | 21:37 |
| Riddell | Serega: hopefully we put it in the package and launchpad will sort it out | 21:37 |
| Riddell | Serega: can you send me the .pot file? | 21:39 |
| jjesse | Riddell: can you reply to my email from debra in regards to kde version for me? | 21:39 |
| Serega | Riddell: sec, I'll regenerate all files... there are comments in .pot like this "#: ../test.py:47" :( | 21:39 |
| _StefanS_ | Riddell: ok, I wont use any more time on it :) | 21:40 |
| _StefanS_ | Riddell: I'm satisfied that the wallpaper and qtcurve made it ! | 21:40 |
| Riddell | jjesse: the "I need to make sure that I know what.." one? | 21:40 |
| jjesse | Riddell: yes please | 21:41 |
| seaLne | how do i ask hal questions similar to libhal_device_get_property_QString(m_halContext, udi, "volume.fsusage") ? | 21:43 |
| jpatrick | seaLne: no, I don't, and I have to go to sleep :( | 21:43 |
| seaLne | is there a scripty or comandline like way? | 21:43 |
| Riddell | seaLne: lshal | grep volume.fsusage | 21:43 |
| seaLne | jpatrick: i can send you one if you want? | 21:44 |
| seaLne | Riddell: ta | 21:44 |
| jpatrick | seaLne: you give out free pendrives? :/ | 21:44 |
| Serega | Riddell: here is the .pot: http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/957293 | 21:44 |
| seaLne | jpatrick: not in general but i have a spare if you want it and it would be helpfull? | 21:45 |
| * Serega waves to jpatrick | 21:46 | |
| * jpatrick waves to Serega :) | 21:46 | |
| _StefanS_ | seaLne: hal-get-property | 21:47 |
| _StefanS_ | seaLne: sorry, didnt see it was already answered | 21:47 |
| * seaLne wonders how to get the udi? | 21:47 | |
| _StefanS_ | seaLne: hal-device | 21:48 |
| _StefanS_ | seaLne: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/svn/general/hal.html | 21:48 |
| Riddell | seaLne: kde-hal-device-manager may help | 21:48 |
| Serega | does lanchpad look into packages in search of .pots? | 21:49 |
| seaLne | unfortunatly i don't have it installed and can't currently install due to breakage but i shall try to remember all this fun hal stuff | 21:49 |
| Serega | I can't google any info about this | 21:49 |
| seaLne | jpatrick: if you trust me with your postal address i'll pop a pendrive in the post to you tommorow | 21:52 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: I am going to move all khtml/kcm related libs/desktop files into konqueror-kde4 to remove the deps on -data and -bin | 22:00 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: why? | 22:02 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: a) because it was that way in KDE 3 as well and b) because it's likely that someone just uses konqueror as webbrowser, so cutting down the deps makes sense I guess | 22:03 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: mm, ok | 22:03 |
| nosrednaekim | Riddell: can't find the svn+ssh command anywhere for the KDE SVN repositories.... could you resend me that link you send me yesterday? | 22:16 |
| Riddell | nosrednaekim: which one was that? | 22:17 |
| nosrednaekim | the one for "getting a SVN account" I'm trying to find it myself, but haven't had any luck | 22:18 |
| Riddell | nosrednaekim: http://techbase.kde.org/index.php?title=Contribute/Get_a_SVN_Account | 22:18 |
| nosrednaekim | I got a SVN account though, I just need the ssh command... | 22:18 |
| nosrednaekim | thanks! | 22:18 |
| blueyed | Riddell: can you please fix bug 206187 in the next upload of kdebase? | 22:22 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 206187 in kdebase "Please drop patch kubuntu_9920_startkde_dash_stupidness.diff" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/206187 | 22:22 |
| fdoving | man, using icecream for a build-farm is so simple. can't belive i've never done that before. | 22:22 |
| blueyed | Riddell: I would have committed the change to the bzr branch, but it does not get used currently (anymore).. | 22:22 |
| Serega | Riddell: how it's going? can I help you? | 22:23 |
| seele | nosrednaekim: what is the default screen that shows up with the settings tab? is that for the currently selected printer? | 22:23 |
| * apachelogger is afraid something in konqueror-kde4 might be broken now | 22:23 | |
| fdoving | apachelogger: current svn? | 22:24 |
| nosrednaekim | seele: "Server Settings"? | 22:24 |
| apachelogger | fdoving: no, my current packaging | 22:24 |
| seele | nosrednaekim: i have whatever is currently in bazaar. when you start system-config-printer-kde there is a screen. what is that screen for? | 22:24 |
| fdoving | apachelogger: phew. i'm building trunk. i was close to ctrl-c'ing it. | 22:25 |
| seele | nosrednaekim: is it for a selected printer? | 22:25 |
| apachelogger | fdoving: as I stated at the last meeting, only breakage makes using devel versions fun :D | 22:26 |
| nosrednaekim | seele: does it have options such as "Show Printers shared by other systems" and "Allow Printing from the Internet" or options like "Printout Mode" and "Orientation"? | 22:26 |
| Riddell | blueyed: ok | 22:26 |
| Riddell | Serega: I'll get there, just distracted by other hings | 22:26 |
| seele | nosrednaekim: that is on the servers page | 22:26 |
| seele | nosrednaekim: that isnt the default screen that shows though | 22:27 |
| fdoving | apachelogger: yeah, i could just revert it to a working revision sooner if i knew it would break :) | 22:27 |
| Serega | Riddell: ok, ok. Just feel free to bother me on need | 22:27 |
| seele | i'm just trying to figure out what's in the ui, that's all, i know it's not done | 22:27 |
| nosrednaekim | seele: could I have a screenshot?i'm not sure what you are referring to... or maybe the names of widgets/text | 22:28 |
| seele | nosrednaekim: three tabs. Settings Policies Options. three buttons. Remover Printer, Print Test Page, Clean Print Heads | 22:28 |
| nosrednaekim | seele: oh... right, yes, thats for the current printer | 22:28 |
| seele | once you click New Printer or Server Settings, you cant get back to the page | 22:28 |
| seele | ok | 22:29 |
| nosrednaekim | you have to select one of the existing printers to get back to that page | 22:29 |
| nosrednaekim | i'm not sure what happens if you don't have any printers though. | 22:29 |
| seele | there are no existing printers | 22:29 |
| seele | lol.. when you dont have any that screen shows up when you run system-config-printer-kde | 22:29 |
| nosrednaekim | ah... that would be a problem... thanks | 22:30 |
| nosrednaekim | :) | 22:30 |
| nosrednaekim | hah... that does look wierd.... just tried it | 22:30 |
| allee | Riddell: about gwenview: only kubuntu spezific change would be kubuntu_01_kdepot.diff. But the upstream default: kdepotpath=${includedir:-`kde-config --expandvars --install include`}/kde.pot evaluate to kdepotpath=/usr/include/kde/kde.pot and this is the hardcoded default of the kubuntu patch | 22:32 |
| * allee can imagine what kubuntu_01_kdepot.diff is good for | 22:33 | |
| Riddell | allee: it may not be needed then (or it may break in unexpected ways in the buildds) | 22:34 |
| allee | Riddell: okay. I'll pbuild a 'sync'. let's see | 22:36 |
| yuriy | for lack of other ideas, i'll go with konqueror for thursday | 22:41 |
| yuriy | hug day on thursday that is | 22:41 |
| nosrednaekim | yuriy: kde3 or kde4? | 22:41 |
| yuriy | 3 | 22:42 |
| allee | Riddell: okay, gwenview 'sync' pbuilds in hardy. Therefore status is: fabo and me merged/uploaded kubuntu changes back to debian. After libkdcraw 0.1.4-2 from sid is sync'ed and _built on all_ ubuntu archs: digikam 0.9.3-2 , gwenview 1.4.2-4, kipi-plugins 0.1.5-1 and kphotoalbum 3.1.1-1 can be synce'ed from sid. | 22:49 |
| Riddell | Serega: looks great, uploaded, thanks | 22:57 |
| Riddell | Serega: you should probably check with carlos that it'll get imported into launchpad for hardy, then you can upload your translations to launchpad | 22:57 |
| Serega | Riddell: it is a music for my ears. thank you, Jonathan! | 22:58 |
| Serega | Riddell: who is carlos? | 22:58 |
| Riddell | Serega: carlos developers launchpad translations, doesn't seem to be o irc just now | 22:59 |
| Riddell | Serega: carlos develops launchpad translations, doesn't seem to be on irc just now | 22:59 |
| Serega | Riddell: ah, ok. Good night! | 23:00 |
| Riddell | allee: why do those packages need to wait for libkdcraw? don't they have versioned build-deps? | 23:16 |
| allee | Riddell: yeap. makes backports easier, but one has to wait until lib is build | 23:17 |
| nosrednaekim | seele: bug-type-thingy fixed :) | 23:25 |
| seele | nosrednaekim: cool | 23:33 |
| jjesse | evening | 23:36 |
| nosrednaekim | hey jjesse | 23:36 |
| jjesse | hello nosrednaekim | 23:36 |
| seele | anyone know where theme icons are stored? | 23:56 |
| Riddell | seele: /usr/share/icons /usr/lib/kde4/share/icons | 23:57 |
| seele | Riddell: thanks | 23:57 |
| Riddell | or kdebase/runtime in svn | 23:58 |
| seele | huh, i guess i could have searched for "icon" too | 23:59 |
| seele | i dont mean to ask so many dumb questions :P | 23:59 |
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