[00:02] nixternal: fixed :) ... what is the best thing to do with the debdiff? [00:06] I've subscribed ubuntu-main-sponsors ... but if anyone has the time and sponsoring powers > bug 178356 [00:06] Launchpad bug 178356 in kipi-plugins "[hardy] batch resize generates "error"" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178356 [00:15] g'night (if anyone is still awake) [00:18] night [01:35] lol.... http://jaysonrowe.wordpress.com/2008/03/24/still-pleased-with-kde-4/ [01:37] At times it seems Ubuntu doesn’t have a KDE Team - just Jonathan Riddell (does that dude ever get to sleep?) [01:37] :P [01:38] oh, you're quoting [01:39] yeah [01:39] read Riddell'scomment :) [01:41] yeah i was just laughing at that [01:42] ah.. :) [01:43] hmm scim seems to be making my kde4 apps take a long time to start [01:43] I think we should give nixternal, Hobbsee et. al some more publicity :) [01:45] wow removing all scim* packages fixed that quite nicely [01:47] shouldn't kde4 appear on https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-team/+packagebugs ? [02:04] lol :) [02:09] what are we lol about? [02:14] i love how in 5-a-day stats "ubuntu-chicago" is listed as a team but nixternal is the only one on the team that has delt with 5-a-day bugs [02:14] it still is the 2nd team in stats [02:15] i just sent an email to my loco to start participating, but i'm not too confident anything will come of it. chances are you'll see the same thing there [02:16] * yuriy nudges n8k99 [02:16] yuriy, am working on your bug about removing the zoom buttons [02:16] do you agree that might as well remove the whole toolbox [02:17] since it doesn't really do anything without the zoom buttons [02:17] CheGuevara: i do, aseigo wouldn't be too happy [02:17] meh [02:17] * n8k99 pops head ot of shell [02:17] would be neat if we could get the lock widgets button on there [02:17] he said its ok to do it downstream [02:17] :P [02:17] i think it's there in trunk [02:19] mmm, pizza and beer [02:19] hmm [02:19] i need to come to chicago again to get more pizza and beer with you [02:20] you didn't even have a beer last time [02:20] either did I though [02:20] but man, beer is wonderful with pizza [02:20] i know cause work was paying for it :) [02:20] bah, time to take the dog for a walk...bbiaf [02:21] * n8k99 pokes yuriy with, with, with something cleaver and witty [02:22] * yuriy hopes something cleaver and witty == `add-5-a-day` [02:23] ok 5-a-day is done, time for bed :) [02:24] nn [02:51] hrmm, how do you get the 'e' key working again in KDE 4? [03:00] Riddell: for printer-applet, you need to add the includes for KDE4/MacroLibrary in the CMakeLists.txt [03:47] 22:10:34 [ DrCh4r135] kubuntu has pretty much replaced windows for me, save for the odd game craving. [03:47] w00t, I finally got the Dr. to get off of Windows! === \sh_away is now known as \sh === jords__ is now known as jords [10:39] nixternal: KDE4/MacroLibrary ? [10:50] Riddell: I almost managed to create a System Settings module counterpart for KGRUBEditor [10:50] Riddell: with minor alterations to the initial code [10:51] oh, nice [11:31] hobbsee: are you here? [11:38] awen-: why use python-gobject? [11:40] Riddell: receiving dbus signals only work with DBusGMainLoop eg. gobject... the DBusQtMainLoop is broken in some mysterious way [11:41] awen-: it works with qt 4 [11:41] not qt 3 though [11:42] Riddell: exactly... but is it better to use qt4 then? [11:42] awen-: margionally, we already have it on the CDs [11:45] Riddell: okay, didn't know it was already there... i can look into changing it later today; unless you will change those three lines yourself :) [11:46] awen-: ImportError: No module named pcop [11:51] * awen- is a bit confused... we use dcop functions in powermanager already, but python-dcop isn't a dependency? [11:52] awen-: is pcop a typo? === ugap is now known as uga [11:53] awen-: I think there are two python dcop implementations and you might be using the wrong one [11:53] sebas: true? ^^ [11:55] Riddell: there are at least two [11:56] Riddell: looks like I've been looking at two of the "wrong" dcop implementations [12:04] Riddell: Uhm, could be [12:04] I think one comes with PyKDE, one is sort-of standalone [12:04] But it's a long tiem ago I played with it, I might be wrong [12:05] sebas: you are right [12:05] Cool ;-) [12:05] :) [12:05] Riddell: I'll look in to using the build in dcop client and switch to qt-mainloop instead [12:06] install python-dcop if you want to test it as it is now [12:59] I played a bit with https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/kubuntu-konqueror-shortcuts/trunk feel free to blame me if it doesn't work anymore ;) === smarter_ is now known as smarter [13:00] <\sh> window 14 [13:00] <\sh> grmpf === jpetso is now known as jpetso_away [14:01] Any living folks in here? [14:02] Looking for a little assistance maybe with a busted KDM. Worked a little while after upgrading, but not anymore. [14:03] ryanov: user support channel is #kubuntu (for Hardy #ubuntu+1 and for KDE 4 #kubuntu-kde4) [14:05] For Hardy with KDE? Or would it be kubuntu+1? [14:05] ryanov: no, #ubuntu+1 supports all of hardy [14:05] ryanov: hardy with KDE 3 #ubuntu+1 [14:05] OK. Sounds good. Thanks for the help! [14:05] Yeah, that's what I'm using. Thankws. === \sh is now known as \sh_away [15:16] Riddell: I'm looking at awen's kde-guidance package now. [15:18] ScottK: see his and mine discussion from earlier today, it should use python-qt4-dbus not glib and should use the correct python dcop [15:18] but testing (and fixes) welcome [15:20] Riddell: OK. I'll go ahead and focus on my displayconfig stuff and add his on top of that if he updates it. [15:21] Riddell: do you know if nosrednaekim has a ppa of the current printing stuff? [15:25] seele: no, it's in bzr. bzr branch http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/system-config-printer/kde-port === \sh_away is now known as \sh [15:28] Riddell: I can upload the CMakeLists.txt I edited for printer-applet...but there is also a problem with the create_exe_symlink.cmake file [15:29] <\sh> hmm..no konversation for kde4? [15:29] * Riddell checks to see if he turned over two pages at once [15:29] what I added to the CMakeLists.txt was 'find_package(KDE4 REQUIRED)' \n 'include(KDE4Defaults)' to get the app to build out [15:30] \sh: no yet there isn't [15:30] 4.1 I think [15:30] nixternal: to build out? [15:30] <\sh> nixternal: damn ;) [15:30] Riddell: w/o those 2 lines, CMake doesn't know what 'macro_optional_find_package()' is [15:30] <\sh> but funny ... desktop effects on intel graphics card are much better then on ati with oss drivers [15:31] \sh: tell me about it...KDE 4 on my lappy rocks, on my desktop with a radeon, using either fglrx or the oss drivers, and building from trunk, my system constanstly freezes [15:31] <\sh> nixternal: yeah [15:31] on a 64bit box..but I also believe that happens with distro packages as well [15:32] <\sh> nixternal: I have only troubles on amd64 + ati radeon x300 [15:32] <\sh> (never tried the fglrx stuff) [15:32] radeon 9700 which uses the r300 driver here [15:32] nixternal: 'find_package(KDE4 REQUIRED)' is in kdereview/CMakeLists.txt [15:33] umm, when was it added? [15:33] <\sh> hmmm [15:33] oh, never mind [15:33] <\sh> why can't I set more then 2 virtual desktops? [15:33] Riddell: I was building printer-applet out by itself [15:33] <\sh> oh damn..that's user unfriendly [15:33] nixternal: what's wrong with create_exe_symlink.cmake ? [15:33] I forgot that is the way it was setup for kdereview [15:34] <\sh> pager rows and desktops can be misunderstood :( [15:34] I have no idea, it just crashes out of the build process when running it [15:34] nixternal: maybe add those with if (NOT KDE4_FOUND) a la step/CMakeLists.txt [15:34] let me try building from kdereview/ [15:39] Riddell: take back everything I said [15:39] builds fine from kdereview/ [15:39] nixternal: if you're in a mood for cmake though, feel free to add a tests for python-cups (required) and hal-cups-utils (recommended) [15:40] k, I am working on the docs for printer-applet [15:40] nixternal: it needs docs? [15:40] annma and I are making sure everything that comes out of kdereview has docs [15:40] it should have docs, yes [15:41] 13:40 < annma> and you are right that no doc is needed [15:41] hrmm [15:41] I don't know what docs would say [15:41] groovy, that knocks down one task then :) [15:42] docs removed [15:44] <\sh> hmm.icons are missing in the main menu...K->Applications -> no menu icons...known? [15:49] <\sh> and kopete is crashing with jabber ;) [15:49] \sh: 3 or 4? [15:49] <\sh> 4 [15:49] <\sh> I only have kde4 on this desktop [15:50] <\sh> Riddell: tried to connect against my jabber server [15:51] <\sh> do we have debug packages for kopete? [15:51] unlikely [15:53] \sh: same happens for me when it is open / does not crash when it is minimized to the tray [15:53] when I connect [15:53] opening it after that is fine [15:56] allee: you had something to be uploaded to main, did that happen? [15:56] <\sh> Nightrose: well, it's not even minimized [16:01] ooh, 4.4-beta package...you rock Riddell :) [16:01] no more compiling by hand [16:07] * jussi01 sighs at yao_zizuan in #kubuntu :( === firephoto_ is now known as firephoto [16:19] I love when people want to protest something in Kubuntu, however have not one ioda to back it up, nothing to suggest as an improvement [16:19] wasting breath and keystrokes, there for consuming more power than is needed :p [16:21] sebas: around? [16:27] awen-: I'm working on Guidance today. Will you have your changes updated soon or should I just go ahead when I'm ready? [16:28] ScottK: I'm trying to get the helper app approved; but I'm kind of stuck at the last bit... you shouldn't happen to be an expert in python + Qt? [16:30] Python I'm decent at. Qt absolutely hopeless. [16:30] nixternal knows Qt and a bit of Python. Maybe he would help? [16:30] ScottK: okay... your know half of the equation, that's more than me ;) [16:31] the gobject mainloop should be replaced with a Qt mainloop, but this just wont work for me: http://awen.dk/packages/gpmhelper/gpmhelper.py [16:31] nixternal: any good advice? ^^ [16:33] allee: import dbus.mainloop.qt ? [16:34] awen- rather [16:34] dbus.mainloop.qt.DBusQtMainLoop(set_as_default=True) [16:35] Riddell: ? is this about kblue* script? [16:35] allee: It's about tab completion problems. [16:35] lol [16:36] allee: but I also asked about if you got your upload uploaded from friday [16:37] allee: ah, right. No. Minutes after I asked you debian upload a new version with the 'my' fix + some other fixes. So IMHO a merge/sync is better, but didn't find the time yet to look at it [16:37] Riddell: that part I've got :) ... but what should I use instead of gobject as the loop? [16:37] ah, tab problem agian Riddell ^^ :) [16:38] awen-: app.exec_() is right [16:38] allee: ok, let us know when you know [16:39] Riddell: and i should do a "app = QApplication(sys.argv)" right? [16:40] awen-: yes [16:40] Riddell: that gives me this error: "RuntimeError: the qt and PyQt4.QtCore modules both wrap the QObject class" [16:43] Riddell: reuploaded the file [16:44] * awen- believes that he is doing a very common error... but just can't see it [16:44] awen-: oh, it won't work because we're using qt4 (dbus) and qt3 (dcop) [16:44] oh well [16:45] awen-: infact does dcop work at all without a qt3 mainloop? [16:46] if so I guess it just needs to use the glib one [16:46] Riddell: we are only sending dcop events... and that works with the glib mainloop [16:47] awen-: ok, lets do that then [16:47] Riddell: I've changed it to use the right "dcop" implementation... so I'll just stick with the gobject? [16:49] awen-: yeah, guess so [16:50] awen-: Does that mean your change is ready to go? [16:50] ScottK: yeah... I'm just preparing the debdiff for you to merge :) [16:51] awen-: Great. === \sh is now known as \sh_away [16:54] ScottK: http://awen.dk/packages/gpmhelper/kde-guidance_0.8.0svn20080103-0ubuntu8.debdiff <-- here you go [16:54] awen-: Getting ... [16:55] ScottK: it doesn't include a fix for the userconfig unicode problem as it didn't seem to work... I hope we get some feedback on the bug soon (and thanks for the correction to my mindslip ;) ) [16:56] OK. Sounds reasonable. [16:57] ScottK: do we need some bug numbers to the changlog (know they are there, but haven't been looking at them)... or should we just close them afterwards? [16:58] It's much better to get them in the changelog so people can go back to it later if they need to. [17:01] ScottK: I'll go look for them... can you hold it half an hour [17:01] ? [17:01] awen-: Yes. I've got more work to do yet. [17:06] anyone able to recreate https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/206154 ? [17:06] Launchpad bug 206154 in kdebase "kded goes to 100% when plugging in a pen drive" [Undecided,New] [17:08] Riddell: not here, goes to 1% [17:10] ScottK: you will also need to upload this together with kde-guidance: http://awen.dk/packages/gpmhelper/kdeutils_3.5.9-0ubuntu3.debdiff ... or you will have a lot of keypresses interpreted twice [17:10] Ah. [17:10] Riddell: ^^^ Would you please look that one over and make sure you're OK with it. [17:11] ScottK: seen it, fine with me [17:11] jussi01: me neither [17:12] Riddell: can't reproduce it either [17:13] Riddell: is that in gutsy or hardy? [17:15] jussi01: hardy I think [17:15] Riddell: ok, thats what ive tested on. :) [17:15] Riddell: it has kde*3.5.9* somewhere in the traceback? [17:15] so it is hardy [17:19] ScottK: here is a new changlog entry: http://awen.dk/packages/gpmhelper/changelog.gpmhelper [17:20] awen-: Did you just add the one line. [17:20] ScottK: yeah === jpetso_away is now known as jpetso === jpetso is now known as anyone === anyone is now known as myself === myself is now known as jpetso [17:41] hi all [17:42] I am a KDE enthusiast and would like to build and work with trunk [17:43] riddel suggests that it would be a good idea to have a PPA that updates itself [17:43] what i want to know here is what changes does kubuntu packaging make to KDE sources and [17:44] are there patches available for the debian directories as is used by kubuntu packaging [17:48] hi kishore [17:48] you may want to talk to apachelogger, who I believe is working on something similar [17:49] kishore: our packaging is available with apt-get source, the patches for kubuntu are in debian/patches/kubuntu_* [17:50] oh thanks.. good to hear as i am more instested developing using kde4.1 rather than 4.1 itself [17:50] but consider building 4.1 necessary [17:52] is there a way i can get only patches for the package [17:52] internet is slow around here [17:54] kishore: you can try the packaging bzr archive, although its often out of date https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/ [17:56] ok thanks [18:24] So, I've built, installed, and tested the new kde-guidance on one machine. On another machine at the same time, pbuilder has managed to build a chroot and gather the kdeutils build-deps.... [18:25] * ScottK just loves these effing huge kde packages [18:29] ScottK: think of it as "relaxation" time :D [18:37] jussi01: Not for me. I'm doing Kubuntu stuff to procrastinate $WORK and so it's taking away my excuse. [18:40] ScottK: hehe [18:41] can somebody help me with kde4 oxygen theme, font color of the menubar won't change === hunger_t is now known as hunger [19:12] Riddell: to get kipi-plugins 0.1.5 final into hardy, we need to start with sync libkdcraw 0.1.4 (new version) from debian. Can you do it with your super-archive-powers? === neversfelde_ is now known as neversfelde [19:14] ^^^ libkdcraw bumps API version [19:16] awen-: I have brightness again on my old laptop. Thanks. [19:17] Riddell and awen-: kdeutils and kde-guidance uploaded. [19:18] ScottK: no problem... glad to hear that it works just as it should :) [19:18] There was enough bugfix goodness I went ahead and uploaded kde-guidance. I have a couple more things to do in displayconfig, but they're rather more scary, so wanted to get this done first. [19:23] ScottK: thanks [19:24] awen-: No. Thank you for your contributions to Kubuntu. [19:24] afternoon [19:24] so bugsquad is doing gdm + gnome-screensaver for hug day this thursday [19:25] ScottK: about the userconfig + unicode; i'm pretty stuck with my limited python knowledge, if you wan't to look at it here is the patch i tried with http://awen.dk/packages/kubuntu_20_userconfig_utf8.patch and the best documentation i could find http://docs.python.org/tut/node5.html#SECTION005130000000000000000 [19:25] i looked at kdm bugs -- searching for kdm in kdebase turns up 47, 23 new. doesn't seem that urgent [19:25] anybody have better ideas? [19:25] Riddell: it'd have been nice if the commit stated good reasons to remove ktip.. there's people getting annoyed at the "bwahahaha" kubuntisation [19:26] Riddell: just noticing that, no annoyance from me [19:26] awen-: Thanks. [19:26] ScottK: i will not have time to look at it tomorrow, but i could give it another go on thursday... still, i would appreciate a second pair of eyes at it :) [19:27] awen-: Depends on how much time I have tomorrow and what displayconfig evil I can manage. [19:28] ScottK: of course... you're doing some solid improvements on that one [19:32] yuriy: what about some of the large kde "metapackages" like kdeutils or the like (last time I looked at some of them they had some large bug counts) [19:33] Where is kde for kde4? Ought to include that. [19:33] kde/kdm [19:34] kdm-kde4? [19:34] Dunno. [19:34] * ScottK is strictly kde3 still. [19:34] !info kdm-kde4 hardy [19:34] * jpatrick too [19:35] looks like ubotu is strict kde3 too [19:36] ubotu lies [19:36] Mostly just statistics, but yeah. [19:41] allee: yes I can sync that [19:42] * awen- cheers allee for packaging the final kipi-plugins for hardy [19:42] Riddell: okay, thx. Fabo will upload fixes for digikam real soon now. So we can hopefully sync that too tomorrow ;) [19:43] uga: hmm, seems albert keeps finding reasons to not like what I do :( [19:43] awen-: thx, but still 3 bugfixes to backport ;) [19:44] Riddell: is there going to be a replacement btw? [19:44] uga: there's a plasmoid thingy to introduce to KDE [19:44] iirc somebody aimed at replacing it a while ago [19:44] ahk [19:45] allee: good luck with them... if you need any help, just ask (i was anyway preparing to begin packaging them myself :) ) [19:46] awen-: pkg is already in my ppa for quite some time but Gilles and Angelo point me to more and more fixes [19:49] allee: okay, i'll go test them out later... /me do really hope they manages hardy [19:49] awen-: me too ;) [19:51] awen-: too large even. a good subsection of a metapackage would work [19:51] i.e. konqueror bugs [19:51] or the aforementioned kdm but that seems a bit small [19:53] yuriy: is konqueror bugs already looked at? ... that sound like a good focus to me [19:53] the other thing i'm thinking is kde4 bugs [19:53] primarily forwarding them upstream [19:53] but i don't know how relevant that is for hardy at this point [19:54] anything like this is going to be annoying to get on a wiki page btw because we don't have a good tagging system [19:56] yuriy: just a note... if we ever have a joint ubuntu+kubuntu bug day i would suggest looking at hal bugs [19:57] awen-: these are all joint. tuesdays are non-desktop specific, you could suggest to bdmurray to have a hal one [19:58] yuriy: i will do that === neversfelde_ is now known as neversfelde [20:14] Riddell: that qt beta you blogged about today, its only for hardy? [20:15] mathieu__: yes [20:16] thanks [20:25] Riddell: what do you think about che's question on bug #197865 [20:25] Launchpad bug 197865 in kdebase-workspace "Zoom out button in plasma should be removed for hardy" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/197865 [20:27] apachelogger: oi, there was a long painful discussion on the plasma mailing list about that [20:28] seele: did they decide anything on what they think about downstreams removing it for release? [20:28] I honestly don't care [20:28] yuriy: i dont see how they could control that and theyre free to be upset if they want [20:28] what they think about us removing it [20:29] i think one of the final decisions (but i dont konw what got committed) was to keep the toolbox thing in the corner but disable zooming until it is fixed [20:29] people were against disabling the toolbox alltogether [20:29] ok [20:29] (mt) [20:29] yeah, I am not sure whether this would be wise all that much [20:30] the toolbox thingy makes it more visible [20:30] but since we don't install the extragear plasmoids in hardy there is not much point in that either [20:30] apachelogger: is there a patched amarok for upload? [20:31] Riddell: I uploaded my changes to bzr [20:32] apachelogger: ok, thanks [20:38] what is the correct status for a bug (that i reported a while ago) that isn't relevant anymore? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/koffice/+bug/58399 [20:38] Launchpad bug 58399 in koffice "koffice dapper to edgy upgrade problem" [Undecided,Incomplete] [20:39] seaLne: invalid [20:39] k, haven't triaged in a while and couldn't rember [20:42] <_StefanS_> Riddell: I guess the gtk2-engines-qtcurve thingy is too late.. ? [20:42] <_StefanS_> Riddell: thinking about Hobbsee's email [20:45] Riddell: I hereby dislike LUKS [20:45] * jpatrick stomps on crap patch [20:49] jpatrick: in hardy when you plug in a encrypted disk and it prompts to decrypt, is it supposed to mount it or just leave create a /dev/mapper/ device? [20:50] seaLne: both [20:50] hmm in both gutsy and now hardy it dosen't mount it for me wasn't entirely sure if it should [20:51] is that a known bug? i wasn't sure what it would be a bug against [20:52] seaLne: the gusy package is outdated (I think) [20:53] i wasn't to bothered about it but when i just got it in hardy... [20:54] jpatrick: i take it it is mounting for you? [20:55] someone please try to reproduce bug #199630 [20:55] Launchpad bug 199630 in kdebase-kde4 "Bookmark > Edit Bookmark does not launch bookmark editor" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/199630 [20:55] jpatrick: btw 3.5.9 [20:56] seaLne: yeah, ad for buz, who helped test it [20:57] this is a usb hard disk with no partitions just the raw device ie /dev/sdd encrypted and with an xfs filesystem on it [20:58] stdin: please backport kdelibs for kde3 to the ppa in order to fix bug #199505 [20:58] Launchpad bug 199505 in kdebase-kde4 "Duplicate KDE3 and KDE4 entries" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/199505 [21:00] is there any know problems with kde4graphics-data from gutsy ppa and ksnapshot-kde4 in hardy conflicting on /usr/lib/kde4/share/dbus-1/interfaces/org.kde.ksnapshot.xml ? not sure if its important and strange that no one else seems to have encountered it [21:01] i guess something changed when the packaging of kde4-graphics became kdegraphics-kde4 or something? [21:01] seaLne: please report a bug and assign me [21:02] Riddell: hey, Jon, I have a next patch, please review: http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/957204 [21:02] actually I would appreciate it if someone could make a list with all name changes [21:06] apachelogger: Bug #206807 [21:06] Launchpad bug 206807 in kdegraphics-kde4 "upgrading gutsy+4.0.2 to hardy fails with conflictions on /usr/lib/kde4/share/dbus-1/interfaces/org.kde.ksnapshot.xml" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/206807 [21:07] seaLne: thanks [21:10] nosrednaekim: you were working on system-config-printer right? [21:10] hrm.... what am I doing wrong here? is there supposed to be some argument to pyqtSignature in this instance? manually connecting the signal to the function works, but it calls it twice (as normal) [21:10] @pyqtSignature("") [21:10] def on_cbPrintMode_activated(self,text): [21:11] yuriy: I am.... still... trying :) [21:11] nosrednaekim: bug 206459 [21:11] Launchpad bug 206459 in system-config-printer-kde "print status doesn't update automatically" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/206459 [21:13] yuriy: i had that bug a week ago or so, but it was gone when i printed yesterday... [21:13] so maybe fixed [21:13] i don't have a printer so i can't test [21:14] yuriy: it might be... but the bug misses current package version [21:14] awen-: The Debian kde-guidance maintainer is trying our updates out on Sid. Once we get final for Hardy, I plan on pushing all this up to them. [21:14] awen-: yeah, i've noticed that its updating is rather arbitrary, try running view->reload next time it does that and see if that changes it [21:15] jpatrick: i think i have found the problem with my encrypted volumes, it works if their is a partition table, but dosen't when their isn't [21:15] just tested on a spare pendrive [21:15] ScottK: sounds good :) ... what about upstream, is that alive for kde-guidance? [21:16] awen-: Sort of. Riddell has svn access there and he'll handle that. [21:16] nosrednaekim: it seemed fixed to me... but rather have you look at the bug ;) [21:17] awen-: I will, its now assigned to me. [21:17] away [21:18] seaLne: truly odd, why it just stopped working in hardy... [21:18] yes guidance should be kept updated upstream with fixes [21:19] yuriy: Once we get what we're doing for Hardy nailed down, we'll get that done too. [21:19] jpatrick: have you tried with encrypted raw devices rather than a partition? [21:19] I have two significant patches that I have yet to add. [21:19] ScottK: okay; thought so... but let's push it upstream that way then... maybe a last final release of kde-guidance before kde 3.5 dies [21:19] seaLne: not here.. [21:20] awen-: I don't know what else is changed since the last svn snapshot we took. I'd like to hand something to Debian I'm reasonably confident works. [21:22] ScottK: someone could try a grand merge of it all and see what happens :) ... but if the hardy package with the current patches shouldn't have any trouble on sid; and it probably holds more changes than the svn anyway [21:23] s/but if//1 [21:23] Yes. My theory is update Debian and upstream with what we have, take a new snapshot as soon as Ibex opens and see where we are. [21:24] jpatrick: where is the code for the encrypted decrypting/mounting stuff? [21:24] seaLne: kdebase - patch kubuntu_*_kiomedialuks.diff [21:25] ScottK: that sounds like a reasonable plan... or if someone has contact with upstream, convince them to release a bugfix version when everything is in the svn [21:25] awen-: That'd be Riddell. [21:26] Riddell: ping, on the test site, did you prefer the story title to be underlined or no? [21:27] ScottK: then no problem... just after the hardy release Riddell will have lots of time for that ;) [21:29] < yuriy> yes guidance should be kept updated upstream with fixes <-- sorry i meant that ScottK and awen's fixes should be put upstream, not that i know of any fixes upstream that aren't in hardy [21:29] * seaLne just confirms for sanity sake that a formated raw non encrypted devices mounts properly, and it does [21:29] jpatrick: what's wrong with luks now? [21:30] ryanakca: probably none [21:30] Riddell: ok [21:31] Riddell: are you aware of a bug with kdm in hardy ? [21:31] a black screen on logout [21:31] _StefanS_: it would be improper, although it shouldn't change the screenshots that she says since it changes one style for another one which looks the same [21:32] Dekans: no [21:33] I have this since alpha versions (nvidia-glx on amd64) [21:33] Serega: this looks like it would also need the strings extracted into a .pot [21:34] Riddell: right. I have a .pot and russian and ukrainian translation but dunno how to package this stuff [21:37] jpatrick: do you happen to have a spare pendrive or something to confirm that it is the raw device that is causing the problem? [21:37] Serega: hopefully we put it in the package and launchpad will sort it out [21:39] Serega: can you send me the .pot file? [21:39] Riddell: can you reply to my email from debra in regards to kde version for me? [21:39] Riddell: sec, I'll regenerate all files... there are comments in .pot like this "#: ../test.py:47" :( [21:40] <_StefanS_> Riddell: ok, I wont use any more time on it :) [21:40] <_StefanS_> Riddell: I'm satisfied that the wallpaper and qtcurve made it ! [21:40] jjesse: the "I need to make sure that I know what.." one? [21:41] Riddell: yes please [21:43] how do i ask hal questions similar to libhal_device_get_property_QString(m_halContext, udi, "volume.fsusage") ? [21:43] seaLne: no, I don't, and I have to go to sleep :( [21:43] is there a scripty or comandline like way? [21:43] seaLne: lshal | grep volume.fsusage [21:44] jpatrick: i can send you one if you want? [21:44] Riddell: ta [21:44] seaLne: you give out free pendrives? :/ [21:44] Riddell: here is the .pot: http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/957293 [21:45] jpatrick: not in general but i have a spare if you want it and it would be helpfull? [21:46] * Serega waves to jpatrick [21:46] * jpatrick waves to Serega :) [21:47] <_StefanS_> seaLne: hal-get-property [21:47] <_StefanS_> seaLne: sorry, didnt see it was already answered [21:47] * seaLne wonders how to get the udi? [21:48] <_StefanS_> seaLne: hal-device [21:48] <_StefanS_> seaLne: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/svn/general/hal.html [21:48] seaLne: kde-hal-device-manager may help [21:49] does lanchpad look into packages in search of .pots? [21:49] unfortunatly i don't have it installed and can't currently install due to breakage but i shall try to remember all this fun hal stuff [21:49] I can't google any info about this [21:52] jpatrick: if you trust me with your postal address i'll pop a pendrive in the post to you tommorow [22:00] Riddell: I am going to move all khtml/kcm related libs/desktop files into konqueror-kde4 to remove the deps on -data and -bin [22:02] apachelogger: why? [22:03] Riddell: a) because it was that way in KDE 3 as well and b) because it's likely that someone just uses konqueror as webbrowser, so cutting down the deps makes sense I guess [22:03] apachelogger: mm, ok [22:16] Riddell: can't find the svn+ssh command anywhere for the KDE SVN repositories.... could you resend me that link you send me yesterday? [22:17] nosrednaekim: which one was that? [22:18] the one for "getting a SVN account" I'm trying to find it myself, but haven't had any luck [22:18] nosrednaekim: http://techbase.kde.org/index.php?title=Contribute/Get_a_SVN_Account [22:18] I got a SVN account though, I just need the ssh command... [22:18] thanks! [22:22] Riddell: can you please fix bug 206187 in the next upload of kdebase? [22:22] Launchpad bug 206187 in kdebase "Please drop patch kubuntu_9920_startkde_dash_stupidness.diff" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/206187 [22:22] man, using icecream for a build-farm is so simple. can't belive i've never done that before. [22:22] Riddell: I would have committed the change to the bzr branch, but it does not get used currently (anymore).. [22:23] Riddell: how it's going? can I help you? [22:23] nosrednaekim: what is the default screen that shows up with the settings tab? is that for the currently selected printer? [22:23] * apachelogger is afraid something in konqueror-kde4 might be broken now [22:24] apachelogger: current svn? [22:24] seele: "Server Settings"? [22:24] fdoving: no, my current packaging [22:24] nosrednaekim: i have whatever is currently in bazaar. when you start system-config-printer-kde there is a screen. what is that screen for? [22:25] apachelogger: phew. i'm building trunk. i was close to ctrl-c'ing it. [22:25] nosrednaekim: is it for a selected printer? [22:26] fdoving: as I stated at the last meeting, only breakage makes using devel versions fun :D [22:26] seele: does it have options such as "Show Printers shared by other systems" and "Allow Printing from the Internet" or options like "Printout Mode" and "Orientation"? [22:26] blueyed: ok [22:26] Serega: I'll get there, just distracted by other hings [22:26] nosrednaekim: that is on the servers page [22:27]