[00:00] <jnk> I honestly don't know, I haven't seen any commands or attempts to upgrade provide any feedback to indicate it has actually done any upgrading
[00:01] <jnk> actually, you know what, I used wubi to install this today, it probably picked up the beta
[00:01] <flipstar> hm mplayer was updated today.. jnk run apt-cache policy mplayer
[00:01] <jnk> so all this is for not haha
[00:03] <jnk> the version returned from that matche that of the website
[00:03] <flipstar> info mplayer hardy | it should be this
[00:03] <flipstar> !info mplayer hardy | it should be this
[00:03] <ubotu> it should be this: mplayer (source: mplayer): The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:1.0~rc2-0ubuntu11 (hardy), package size 4244 kB, installed size 9892 kB
[00:04] <ere4si> time for a hard reset again....
[00:04] <jnk> well, mine's not installed, but the version returned is that
[00:04]  * cuznt 's integrated sound card makes horrid tin scraping noises when atemptin to record through the input
[00:06] <jnk> so, I'll conclude I already have the latest version and that I just wasted all of your all's time :)
[00:07] <jnk> but I do appreciate the assistance, I come from bsd so I'm just learning the linux methods of doing things
[00:08] <Daisuke_Ido> cuznt, that's actually the sound of the demons trapped in your computer that are forced to relay ones and zeroes between components
[00:09] <cuznt> i believe it
[00:09] <Daisuke_Ido> they live in the blue smoke, and may heaven have mercy on your soul if you let them out -_-
[00:12]  * flipstar just learned about sysreq keys :)
[00:20] <Apple_Cat_> Hi i think I'm having a problem with dns, though I don't know why, or how. If I try nslookup on myself it returns ** server can't find 1.0.0.127.in-addr.arpa: NXDOMAIN
[00:24] <flipstar> Apple_Cat_: did you changed something special since this appeared ?
[00:24] <Apple_Cat_> nope, the only only thing I can think of is installing virtual box
[00:25] <flipstar> any symptoms or is everything working ?
[00:26] <dwidmann> Apple_Cat_: try a domain you know exists, like google or something
[00:26] <flipstar> du you have an dns server running ?
[00:26] <Apple_Cat_> google works, but local wont
[00:27] <Apple_Cat_> nope, no dns server
[00:27] <Apple_Cat_> (besides the router)
[00:28] <flipstar> hm
[00:29] <jimmy51> howdy.  how can i re-initialize video hardware detection and setup (i just replaced my graphics card and now it's booting to console) ?
[00:29] <Dr_willis_> jimmy51,  what video card you have now? what was it befor?
[00:30] <jimmy51> Dr_willis_: it was a mobo integrated video, now it's an nvidia PCI card
[00:30] <flipstar> Apple_Cat_: *guessing* maybe vbox installed some kind of dns server for local vm's
[00:30] <Dr_willis_> jimmy51,  to get X back, you could edit the xorg.conf and change the 'Driver 'whatever'' line to 'Driver 'nv''
[00:31] <Dr_willis_> or ya can manually install the nvidia drivers.  following the !nvidia factoid page
[00:31] <Dr_willis_> !nvidia
[00:31] <ubotu> For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[00:31] <Dr_willis_> theres also a command to reconfigure..but i never can rember it.
[00:31] <Dr_willis_> dpkg-reconfigure  xSOMTHINGIAlwaysForget
[00:32] <jimmy51> Dr_willis_: ok... i'll look up the dpkg deal... the less manual stuff i do the less i can break
[00:32] <jimmy51> xserver-org?
[00:32] <flipstar> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh :)
[00:32] <Dr_willis_> hm  Wow - tab completion works for dpkg-reconfigure on this machine.. when did that start working?
[00:32] <Dr_willis_> :)
[00:34] <jimmy51> k
[00:34] <jimmy51> do i choose "nv" for the driver type?
[00:35] <Apple_Cat_> nv is the free driver
[00:35] <jimmy51> i can enable the nonfree once i'm in kde, right?
[00:36] <jimmy51> (i mean, enable pretty easily...)
[00:36] <Apple_Cat_> yep
[00:37] <jimmy51> ok.  i think i'm going to try dpkg-configure xserver-xorg ... reconfigure is wanting to keep dealing with the onboard instead of the PCI card
[00:38] <flipstar> cant you disable the onboard card in bios ?
[00:38] <jimmy51> nope... i just get to pick which to try first
[00:39] <jimmy51> ah, gotta go
[00:39] <jimmy51> thanks for the help, i'll try again later
[00:39] <Apple_Cat_> good luck : )
[00:40] <draik> Is anyone using VirtualBox with USB support?
[00:40] <Apple_Cat_> nope, but have you read the manual ?
[00:41] <nosrednaekim> draik: yep!
[00:41] <draik> nosrednaekim: How did you get it to work? I followed the online instructions and nothing works. Not even Shared Folders
[00:41] <draik> The network path $PATH could not be found.
[00:42] <darkness_s> hi
[00:42] <nosrednaekim> draik: you need to enable guest addons... and TBH, the only guest i've run is Windows XP
[00:46] <draik_> nosrednaekim: Sorry. The last response I got was "Yep!"
[00:46] <draik_> nosrednaekim: How did you get it to work? I followed the online instructions and nothing works. Not even Shared Folders
[00:46] <draik_> The network path $PATH could not be found.
[00:48] <draik_> nosrednaekim: How do you get your USB to respond?
[00:49] <nosrednaekim> draik_: what guest are you using?
[00:49] <nosrednaekim> XP?
[00:50] <draik_> yes
[00:50] <nosrednaekim> draik_: did you install the guest addons?
[00:50] <draik_> yes
[00:51] <flipstar> im out..byebye
[00:51] <ere4si> I right click a link in xchat and select "open in browser" and kubuntu starts spawning more and more konquerer instances - is this normal?
[00:51] <ere4si> am I expecting too much?
[00:52] <nosrednaekim> draik_: well, shared folders worked automagically after installing the guest additions...i'm using NAT networking.
[00:52] <draik_> I'm using NAT as well
[00:52] <ere4si> arrrgghh
[00:53] <draik_> nosrednaekim: Which install are you using?
[00:53] <draik_> Repos or PUEL?
[00:55] <nosrednaekim> the non-open version
[00:55] <draik_> Where did you get the download?
[00:56] <nosrednaekim> virtualbox.com or whatever
[00:56] <draik_> DEB, right?
[01:04] <Dr_willis_> Hmm.. reencoding some tv shows i recorded. to xvid. a 1 hr show is about 800mb. that about right? wondering if i can tweak it any smaller and still keep ok quality. its 480x480 res now.
[01:05] <Apple_Cat_> #kubuntu-offtopic
[01:07] <nosrednaekim> draik_: ooops sorry... launching virtualbo sucked up my ram and froze my computer :)
[01:07] <nosrednaekim> draik_: forgot to activate my swap
[01:08] <draik_> nosrednaekim: It's all good. I kept going through Google for answers/alternatives
[01:08] <nosrednaekim> find anything?
[01:10] <draik_> nosrednaekim: Nope
[01:10] <draik_> Same instructions
[01:10] <linuxguymarshall> I'm having Adept problems
[01:11] <linuxguymarshall> When I try to open Adept Manager I get his error message : "Another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude)."
[01:12] <Odd-rationale> linuxguymarshall: did adept recently crash?
[01:13] <ere4si> Dr_willis: I have some movies 1hr 40min long at 700mb xvid and they're ok
[01:13] <linuxguymarshall> Odd-rationale:Yes. It asked me if I wanted Adept to try and resolve this problem and when I click yes it crashes
[01:13] <Odd-rationale> linuxguymarshall: do you have apt-get or aptitude running?
[01:14] <linuxguymarshall> Odd-rationale: I'm looking at me processes right now and the only adept that is running is adept_manager which I need to be root to end
[01:15] <Odd-rationale> linuxguymarshall: you can "sudo killall adept_manager"
[01:15] <Odd-rationale> in terminal
[01:15] <linuxguymarshall> Odd-rationale: trying that right now...
[01:16] <linuxguymarshall> Odd-rationale: That seemed to do it, thanks
[01:16] <Odd-rationale> linuxguymarshall: np.
[01:18] <Dr_willis_> ere4si,  hmm - thats about 2x the size im getting.. i must be missing some mencoder options.  of course in the time it takes for me to reencode them, i could just watch the shows. :)
[01:18] <ere4si> hehe
[01:19] <Dr_willis_> mpeg recordings from my mythtv box - they are 1 hr = 2.2 gb. :)
[01:19] <ere4si> Dr_willis: there's a mencoder to set the file size
[01:19] <ere4si> *option
[01:19] <nosrednaekim> Dr_willis_: thats nothin... 1 hour here is like 7 gb.... 720HD :)
[01:20] <linuxguymarshall> is there a wine channel?
[01:20] <nosrednaekim> #winehq
[01:20] <linuxguymarshall> nosrednaekim:ty
[01:21] <draik_> nosrednaekim: What did you do to get USB support?
[01:21] <nosrednaekim> draik_: i'm checking right now if I even have it..
[01:21] <nosrednaekim> I know I have shared folders
[01:23] <draik_> What did you do for Share Folders?
[01:23] <Dr_willis_> nosrednaekim,  i noticed the steamboy video i have. is like 2 hrs and 3.5gb.
[01:23] <draik_> The network path $PATH could not be found.
[01:23] <draik_> That is my error message
[01:25] <nosrednaekim> draik_: seems like I don't have USB support
[01:25] <nosrednaekim> my mp3 player isn't recognized
[01:25] <draik_> Ok
[01:25] <nosrednaekim> Dr_willis_: thats not HD is it?
[01:25] <draik_> I can deal with it if I can get Shared Folder support. At least this way I can go to the /media folder and get to the USB
[01:25] <Dr_willis_>  network path? thats.. weird..
[01:28] <draik_> Dr_willis_: nosrednaekim: Where can I upload an image for you to view?
[01:29] <nosrednaekim> imageshack.ca
[01:30] <draik_> nosrednaekim: Doesn't exist
[01:32] <draik_> How about pastebin? Does that take images?
[01:32] <Dr_willis_> nosrednaekim,  steamboy was hi-def 1080p 5.1 soundtrack and all the goodies.. :) it was too much for many of my pcs to even play
[01:32] <Odd-rationale> draik_: If both of you are registered, you can send files directly...
[01:33] <nosrednaekim> Dr_willis_: 3.5in HD? wow...
[01:33] <draik_> nosrednaekim: imagebin.ca
[01:33] <nosrednaekim> draik_: looking for a place
[01:33] <nosrednaekim> draik_: imagebin.ord
[01:34] <nosrednaekim> imagebin.org
[01:34] <draik_> got it
[01:34] <draik_> nosrednaekim: Dr_willis_:     http://imagebin.ca/view/hkU_vko.html
[01:37] <crashhandler\> any recommendation for a simple photo manipulation apps....like photofiltre (m$ windows)?
[01:37] <Odd-rationale> crashhandler\: You don't like the gimp? (krita for kde)
[01:37] <draik_> crashhandler\: GIMP
[01:38] <crashhandler\> gimp is too bloated
[01:39] <nosrednaekim> draik_: i'm looking at it (taking a while to load)
[01:41] <crashhandler\> my krita seems corrupted,and cant be opened.however how to remove krita individually?when i search for krita in synaptics,there's only KOffice package there..i dun want to remove the whole package.
[01:42] <nosrednaekim> ah.. I see... let me see what my settings are
[01:45] <draik_> nosrednaekim: It suddenly worked
[01:45] <draik_> I typed it in manually rather than doing a search
[01:46] <nosrednaekim> draik_: heh :)
[01:47] <draik_> nosrednaekim: Thank you for looking into this for me.
[01:47] <draik_> Much appreciated for your time.
[01:47] <nosrednaekim> yerp, NP... though I didn't do anything ;)
[01:48] <draik_> nosrednaekim: You at least gave me the time for a response
[01:48] <nosrednaekim> :)
[01:52] <draik> nosrednaekim: I love the $HOTKEY+L feature
[01:53] <nosrednaekim> I like hitkey+F.... in a separate desktop, with active desktop borders
[01:59] <Spaceman_lap> Does anyone have Koffice installed that is willing to lend me a hand?
[02:00] <tin> i think i have most of it installed
[02:00] <Spaceman_lap> tin: Do you have Kword?
[02:00] <tin> yup
[02:00] <Spaceman_lap> It can go from PDF to OpenOffice, correct?
[02:01] <dwidmann> Umm, I've got it installed too .... should be easy as "sudo apt-get install koffice"
[02:02] <Spaceman_lap> dwidmann: I'm on Vista
[02:02] <Spaceman_lap> I just need a file converted
[02:02] <Spaceman_lap> If any kind soul could do it for me...
[02:02] <dwidmann> Spaceman_lap: I guess I can do that for ya
[02:03] <DarkriftX> what sources would i need to add to my source.list to have xchat installable?
[02:03] <DarkriftX> ive searched google and only found huge lists that im not sure i wanna try yet
[02:03] <Spaceman_lap> dwidmann: How can I get the file to you?
[02:03] <dwidmann> I don't think koffice can export to pdf (better quality), but using kprint you can print to pdf. I think.
[02:03] <dwidmann> Spaceman_lap: well, you should be able to direct connect and send it that way with your irc client
[02:04] <ere4si> DarkriftX: universe and multiverse
[02:04] <ere4si> !repos
[02:04] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[02:04] <Spaceman_lap> dwidmann: I sent the offer
[02:04] <dwidmann> Spaceman_lap: uh oh .... it says "connection actively refused :(
[02:05] <dwidmann> "
[02:05] <Spaceman_lap> Grr
[02:05] <dwidmann> Should be okay on my end. I haven't had any trouble with it before
[02:05] <Spaceman_lap> It's probably me
[02:05] <Spaceman_lap> ChatZilla more specifically
[02:06] <Spaceman_lap> Can I e-mail it over?
[02:06] <Spaceman_lap> Sorry this is such a pain, but I lost the original file...
[02:06] <dwidmann> Spaceman_lap: sure, I'll PM you my email
[02:06] <Spaceman_lap> Thanks
[02:06] <DarkriftX> ty
[02:07] <ere4si> k
[02:08] <Spaceman_lap> E-mail sent dwidmann
[02:08] <dwidmann> Spaceman_lap: kay, checking now
[02:10] <dwidmann> Spaceman_lap: got it, now to wait for it to open the message (IMAP in thunderbird ... it downloads the attachment with the message instead of downloading the message then the attachment like IMHO it hsould ... but oh well, a little waiting never hurt me)
[02:10] <Jsn0327> is there a way to lock the permissions of folders/files?  For some reason, every time that i open a folder as root in dolphin, it changes the permissions to root
[02:10] <dwidmann> ah, finally
[02:10] <Spaceman_lap> Thanks :D
[02:10] <snake__> hello. is there any way to install ubuntu from the iso in the hard disk because my cdrom is broken and i can not burn ubuntu in cd
[02:11] <dwidmann> Spaceman_lap: well, it's a pdf right now, what did you need it converted to again?
[02:11] <Spaceman_lap> snake__: Wubi
[02:11] <Spaceman_lap> http://wubi-installer.org/
[02:11] <Spaceman_lap> Open document
[02:11] <Spaceman_lap> I've been told that Koffice can go PDF->Open Document
[02:12] <snake__> Spaceman_lap: sorry. i forgot to say you that i am using ubuntu right now
[02:12] <Spaceman_lap> Ah
[02:12] <dwidmann> Spaceman_lap: well, I'll see if it can then
[02:12] <snake__> Spaceman_lap: i want to install 8.04 to a partition that i have
[02:13] <Spaceman_lap> snake__: Not sure then, sorry
[02:13] <snake__> Spaceman_lap: thank you anyway
[02:13] <Spaceman_lap> np
[02:14] <Spaceman_lap> You might want to ask around in #ubuntu too
[02:14] <dwidmann> Spaceman_lap: I couldn't get the KDE3 version of kword to open it, let me check a few things
[02:14] <Spaceman_lap> OK, thanks a lot
[02:15] <dwidmann> Spaceman_lap: maybe I'll have better luck with the kde4 version ... 11MiB later I'll know
[02:15] <Spaceman_lap> Lol
[02:15] <Spaceman_lap> Thanks
[02:15] <leo_rockw> dwidmann: what kind of file is it?
[02:15] <dwidmann> Spaceman_lap: I know if all you want is the text it should be copy+pastable though if you open it with a decent pdf viewer, but I'm assuming you care about more than just the text
[02:16] <leo_rockw> dwidmann: i have kword2 here
[02:16] <Spaceman_lap> There's a table I spent a bit of time formatting...
[02:16] <Spaceman_lap> Also just the formatting in general
[02:16] <dwidmann> leo_rockw: pdf
[02:17] <leo_rockw> ok, lemme try that...
[02:17] <Spaceman_lap> If you can't it's not a big deal
[02:17] <dwidmann> I'll have kword2 in about 60 seconds
[02:18] <leo_rockw> pdf is not showing in "all supported files"
[02:19] <leo_rockw> Could not import file of type application/pdf
[02:19] <dwidmann> leo_rockw: go figure then
[02:20] <Spaceman_lap> Oh well
[02:20] <dwidmann> yeah, I couldn't get it to import it either, didn't think I could.
[02:20] <Spaceman_lap> Thanks anyways
[02:20] <dwidmann> I tried though
[02:21] <dwidmann> No problem
[02:21] <Spaceman_lap> My info was wrong
[02:21] <Spaceman_lap> If you need a favor sometime, catch me in #ubuntu-offtopic :P
[02:21] <dwidmann> Spaceman_lap: sure thing
[02:21]  * r0dzilla is having a problem with kicker
[02:22]  * leo_rockw reads r0dzilla attentively
[02:22] <r0dzilla> I have panel set to auto-hide because I run to eve clients on a dual screen setup
[02:22] <r0dzilla> I usually switch between two desktops
[02:22] <r0dzilla> the other day something changed
[02:23] <r0dzilla> normally regardless of which virtual desktop I'm on, if I move the mouse to the upper portion of the 2nd monitor the panel drops down
[02:23] <r0dzilla> now, it's only doing it for one virtual desktop
[02:23] <r0dzilla> however,
[02:24] <r0dzilla> even though it's not dropping down for the 2nd virtual desktop, it is displaying ballon tips for icons on the panel
[02:24] <r0dzilla> when I move my mouse up to the top
[02:24] <r0dzilla> so now if I want to run a program I have to switch to virtual desktop 1 then move it to desktop 2q
[02:25] <leo_rockw> r0dzilla: sometimes kicker refuses to show up for me and i solve it by doing this: rmb on kicker, panel set up, set it in the middle position (it changes itself to the left sometimes and for some reason it doesn't show up when it is on that setting)
[02:25] <leo_rockw> r0dzilla: check out if that changes anything at all
[02:25] <r0dzilla> I thought something was different
[02:25] <r0dzilla> I almost tried that but I couldn't remember if it was in middle or not
[02:26] <r0dzilla> changed it but hasn't solved it yet
[02:26] <leo_rockw> r0dzilla: sometimes when clicking it drags and drops and it gets reassigned to the left and that seems to break it
[02:26] <leo_rockw> r0dzilla: mmhh... that's the only solution i had, sorry
[02:26] <r0dzilla> maybe when I log out it will fix
[02:27] <ere4si> r0dzilla: tried in a konsole -     dcop kicker kicker restart
[02:27] <r0dzilla> lemme try that
[02:28] <r0dzilla> that did it
[02:28] <ere4si> :)
[02:28] <leo_rockw> dcop = "magic"
[02:28] <ere4si> hehe
[02:31] <r0dzilla> is the new kde 4 in the hardy beta more feature-rich? the one you can install in gutsy seems to be kinda no frills
[02:33] <ere4si> haven't tried hardy yet - someone in #ubuntu+1 might give an answer
[02:34] <r0dzilla> think I'm gonna try it in virtualbox
[02:39] <leo_rockw> r0dzilla: both have kde 4.0.2
[02:49] <jimmy51> kde4 is pretty slick
[02:50] <jimmy51> i'll have to show my boss ... he's sticking with vista because of the widgets
[02:53] <ere4si> in adept, what is the fuzzy clock source listed under?
[02:53] <dwidmann> jimmy51: it is slick, if only it were more complete (and stable too)
[02:54] <r0dzilla> vista stole widgets from linux and mac lol
[02:55] <r0dzilla> ever since I saw the first longhorn screenshots I screamed "ripoff!"
[02:55] <ere4si> konfabulator was the first I saw
[02:56] <dwidmann> r0dzilla:  my thoughts: "Auugh!! Windows!!?? Get some hot water! Get some disinfectant! Get some iodine!"
[02:56] <r0dzilla> ROTFL
[02:56] <r0dzilla> linux and mac have had widgets like that for some time now
[02:56] <beener> hey im trying to understand konversation can anyone lend a hand
[02:57] <dwidmann> beener: I suppose so
[02:58] <beener> need to know how to auto join and set up how to give voice
[02:58] <beener> automaticly
[02:59] <sudobash> anyone seen my redirect yet?
[02:59] <r0dzilla> click on file-> server list
[02:59] <r0dzilla> then click on say irc.freenode.net
[03:00] <r0dzilla> then click on edit
[03:00] <sudobash> #kubunt
[03:01] <r0dzilla> should bring up an edit screen where you can add channels to autojoin
[03:01] <beener> i mean when conection is lost
[03:01] <r0dzilla> hmmmm
[03:01] <r0dzilla> not sure
[03:01] <beener> or a serversplit happends
[03:01] <r0dzilla> lemme look
[03:01] <beener> thx
[03:01] <Colonel_Panic> how can I get OpenGL to work in Wine?
[03:02] <Colonel_Panic> anybody know?
[03:02] <dwidmann> you might be able to do the autovoice in the line labelled command in that edit menu beener
[03:02] <beener> ive been looking but i cant find anything
[03:02] <Colonel_Panic> hold on...lemme guess...
[03:02] <beener> what the cmd then?
[03:02] <Colonel_Panic> ... #wine?
[03:05] <r0dzilla> beener:  click Settings on menubar, Configure Konversation, go down to "Behavior" then click on connection
[03:06] <beener> k
[03:06] <beener> thx
[03:07] <r0dzilla> np ;)
[03:07] <beener> you able to boot me to c?
[03:07] <beener> yea didnt work
[03:09] <beener> yea when i get booted it wont auto conect
[03:10] <r0dzilla> hmmm
[03:16] <sudobash> here we go
[03:18] <jack__> what do I inter into fstab to force mount ntfs?
[03:18] <kgoetz> !ntfs
[03:19] <jack__> ubotu did not answer that question on my screen
[03:19] <kgoetz> neither. seems to be MIA
[03:19] <beener> well.. dern
[03:19] <ere4si> he's gone...
[03:19] <kgoetz> ubotu: ping
[03:19] <beener> cant figure this out
[03:19] <jack__> there haha now you have to actually type it :p
[03:19] <kgoetz> jack__: i dont know it :P
[03:19]  * kgoetz hasnt used ntfs for years
[03:20] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE
[03:20] <kgoetz> wow. uber lag.
[03:20] <jack__> I guess so :p
[03:20] <ere4si> hehe
[03:20] <ubotu> ping yourself ;-) really the diodes all down my left side are sore
[03:22] <WeaponX> hey
[03:23] <WeaponX> i know kubuntu there is a command locate
[03:23] <WeaponX> does anyone know a windows version of that command?
[03:23] <ere4si> #windows
[03:24] <WeaponX> ah kk
[03:24] <WeaponX> srry
[03:24] <LadyNikon> !windows
[03:24] <LadyNikon> wow no trigger for that.
[03:24] <ubotu> For discussion and help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and /msg ubotu equivalents
[03:24] <LadyNikon> ah laggy
[03:24] <ere4si> !botlag
[03:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about botlag - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:24] <LadyNikon> heh
[03:24] <leo_rockw> isn't it something like clippo_go_fetch ?
[03:24] <leo_rockw> clippy*
[03:25] <jack__> !lag
[03:25] <ubotu> You have lag, I don't have lag
[03:25] <ere4si> hah
[03:25] <jack__> he didn't lag that time :p
[03:26] <jack__> !xkill|ubotu
[03:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xkill - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:27] <jack__> hmmm odd ubotu should know about xkill :p
[03:27] <LadyNikon> !xkill
[03:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xkill - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:27] <LadyNikon> ah.
[03:27] <LadyNikon> i thought it was the other part that made him wonder
[03:28] <ere4si> !info xkill
[03:28] <ubotu> xkill (source: xkill): X client - xkill. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.0.1-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 8 kB, installed size 60 kB
[03:28] <jack__> odd
[03:29] <jack__> hey at least the lag is gone now :)
[03:29] <ere4si> if it is optional, in universe or multiverse you need to prepend with !info
[03:30] <jack__> so ubotu is not optional since we can do:
[03:30] <jack__> !ubotu
[03:30] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[03:31] <ere4si> a bot with a brain could never be optional :)
[03:32] <jack__> I haver spoken to lots of brainless bots :p
[03:32] <ere4si> hehe
[03:32] <jack__> but ubotu on the other hand is sometimes very helpful :)
[03:32] <ere4si> he earns his botsnacks I think :)
[03:33] <jack__> but this time actually he did not help me with knowing how to fgorce mount that drive.
[03:33] <jack__> my kubuntu is broken right now too
[03:33] <jack__> I upgraded from feisty & now everything is all broke
[03:34] <jack__> it keeps on saying that things are 1000 when they should be 000 or something like that.
[03:35] <blindfish> hi
[03:35] <blindfish> is ist possible to reinstall the content of /boot/ ?
[03:35] <jack__> !hi
[03:35] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[03:35] <jack__> I am not sure
[03:35] <ere4si> jack__: does this help - http://www.arsgeek.com/?p=675
[03:36] <blindfish> i just had a little ... accident ...
[03:37] <ere4si> blindfish: /boot has the initrd.img - that is important
[03:39] <jack__> ere4si yes that is the right info butI am still in trouble with my broken kubuntuy
[03:40] <blindfish> my problem was ...
[03:40] <blindfish> i used to have an own partition for /boot/
[03:41] <blindfish> but when i installed gutsy i decided to put all into one /
[03:41] <ere4si> jack__: did you chown or chmod anything?
[03:41] <ere4si> blindfish: I have it like that
[03:41] <blindfish> now i wantet to remove the old /boot/ partition and resized the /
[03:41] <blindfish> seems that i didn't remember correctly
[03:42] <blindfish> and now everything in /boot is lost
[03:42] <blindfish> :(
[03:42] <ere4si> blindfish: will it boot at all?
[03:42] <blindfish> nope
[03:42] <blindfish> the notebook ist running with a live-cd
[03:43] <ere4si> blindfish: you have removed the image that it boots with - I don't know how to overcome that...
[03:44] <blindfish> hm, then i have to reinstall gutsy? humpf :(
[03:44] <jack__> As I said I upgraded frrom fiesty to gutsy & now my computer has lost its mind & says that no one is a sudoer & also a lot of other problems
[03:45] <BluesKaj> blindfish, any boot errors at all ?
[03:46] <jack__> this has happened 3 other times in the past when I have done this
[03:46] <blindfish> i don't know the exatly phrase, but grub can't find any kernel ;)
[03:47] <jack__> bliindfish you might have to do a reinstall
[03:47] <blindfish> okay, thank you
[03:48] <aib> flash that produces sound in my browser is not making it to my speakers, but mplayer works
[03:48] <aib> any tips?
[03:49] <jack__> what browser?
[03:49] <jack__> which browser?
[03:49] <aib> firefox
[03:50] <jack__> not sure
[03:52] <ere4si> jack__: I've never upgraded kubuntu - you can get corrupted packages during d/load - did you do it over wireless?
[03:53] <aib> aib: you're problem is that you started mplayer before you started firefox. close mplayer, close firefox and then go to youtube to hear sound
[03:55] <ere4si> aib: where was that from?
[03:55] <jack__> no I did not do it over wireless
[03:56] <aib> that was the solution to my problem..
[03:56] <ere4si> aib: where did you ask/find?
[03:56] <aib> i figured it out myself
[03:57] <jack__> & no that one page did not fix my problem
[03:57] <ere4si> jack__: done a mem check lately?
[03:57] <jack__> it was a currut install but it does it every time I upgrade from feisty to gutsy, I have heard others say the same.
[03:58] <jack__> So it isn't just me
[03:59] <jack__> I don't need to check my system, my system is crap & all ubuntu knows it. I shouldn't even be running guis
[03:59] <beener> is there some one here who know the ins and outs of konversation or if theres a channle for it
[03:59] <beener> nvm found the channle
[03:59] <jack__> i am on a machine with 91Mbs ram
[03:59] <ere4si> jack__: I have a sep /home partition and always reinstall - only takes 2hrs as I keep a file of the changes I make
[04:00] <blindfish> thanks for your help again (even if there's no hope ^^)
[04:00] <blindfish> gn8 ;)
[04:00] <ere4si> bye
[04:00] <jack__> Yes & on a machine with 91Mbs ram it takes about 20 hours to do an install.
[04:01] <ere4si> jack__: with iG it takes 20 mmin for the install here - how do you do it?
[04:01] <ere4si> 1G = 1024 mb
[04:02] <jack__> with livecd it takes about 6 hours or longer
[04:02] <kgoetz> 91m= 0.09G
[04:02] <jack__> yes
[04:02] <kgoetz> jack__: live cd? at least use the alternate :)
[04:02] <jack__> I did use the alt iunstall took about the same amount of time
[04:03] <kgoetz> didnt think the live ran with <380mb of ram
[04:03] <ere4si> sorry jack__ but you run kubuntu with 91mb ram? - with just the desktop showing I use 84+ mb
[04:03] <jack__> I did an alt install of feisty then upgraded it to gutsey & that is when it whent all to hell
[04:03] <jack__> yes ere4si iot leaves me with only 1mb of ram free
[04:04] <ere4si> jack__: there isn't a *buntu that is recommended with so little ram - except maybe fluxbuntu
[04:04] <jack__> fluxbuntu is not an offical flaver
[04:04] <ere4si> no it isn't
[04:05] <jack__> I have tried fluxbuntu, & damn small, & puppy
[04:05] <ere4si> I'd try puppy on that
[04:05] <jack__> they all are not made to run well for one with that low of ram
[04:05] <jack__> haha I beet you to it :p
[04:05] <kgoetz> puppy and dsl are designed for that much ram
[04:06] <ere4si> these days cli is the only option for that little ram
[04:06] <jack__> nope only deli linux looks promiosing, but I can't get it to install because lilo keeps failing
[04:06] <ere4si> jack__: is more ram an option?
[04:06] <jack__> no it is not
[04:07] <kgoetz> is another system an option?
[04:07] <jack__> not unless you wish to buy it for me
[04:07] <ere4si> jack__: I use the ubuntu server install with fluxbox as a widow manager and it uses 46mb after boot
[04:08] <ere4si> *window
[04:08] <jack__> I have been talking about this on the ubuntu/kubuntu/xubuntu/debian ircs for the past 3 years.
[04:08] <kgoetz> jack__: i'll pass. i dont care about your computing that much
[04:08] <jack__> here it is 3 years later & still no one has been able to help me
[04:09] <ere4si> jack__: says it all really - it's you're system that is the issue - sorry
[04:09] <jack__> Yes I know
[04:09] <ermali86> hello. can anyone tell me please how to make wlassistant to run as root at the startup
[04:10] <ere4si> jack__: and as more time passes the less chance you have of using that system
[04:19] <jack__> But I don't want to use this system
[04:19] <ere4si> ?
[04:20] <jack__> I just want to check to see if my external usb ntfs harddrive is okay or not.
[04:21] <ere4si> jack__: what have you tried so far?
[04:21] <jack__> installing kubuntu
[04:22] <jack__> I started the install last night at 8PM & it finished at 7PM tonight
[04:23] <ere4si> jack__: if it runs try in a konsole -   sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sdb1 /media/filename - if sdb1 is the usb and filename is a dir you made in /media
[04:23] <jack__> it will say I do not have permission 1000 should be 0000
[04:24] <ere4si> ahh - the guid issues
[04:24] <jack__> yes
[04:24] <jack__> that is what I said 2 hours ago
[04:24] <ere4si> you through me with the 91mb ram statement :)
[04:25] <ere4si> *threw
[04:25] <jack__> I would show you that I said it 1 hour ago, but kubuntu won't let me paste anything because I do not have permission
[04:26] <jack__> but I said it at 20:34
[04:27] <jack__> so hopw do I fix gujid?
[04:27] <jack__> guid
[04:28] <ere4si> jack__: can you access from the menu   system settings - user management?
[04:29] <Darkrift2> When trying to install my wifi with ndiswrapper, after following the tutorial my wifi isnt working like it should be and i get the following in dmesg: http://pastebin.com/m7113441c  - Can anyone tell me what i could to do solve this?
[04:29] <ChameleonDave> Hello everyone.  Does anyone use Katapult here?
[04:29] <maduser> is it broadcom?
[04:29] <ermali86> hello. can anyone tell me please how to make wlassistant to run at the startup
[04:29] <maduser> Darkrift?
[04:30] <Darkrift2> yes maduser
[04:30] <jack__> yes
[04:30] <Darkrift2> and yes, ive tried all the tutorials
[04:30] <Darkrift2> im way past that and it still fails
[04:30] <maduser> ok there is a program you can download that will do it in a second
[04:30] <Darkrift2> really
[04:30] <jack__> yes I am in user management right now
[04:30] <Darkrift2> why do i not believe that
[04:30] <maduser> somwhere in the ubuntu forms
[04:30] <Darkrift2> if ther eis
[04:30] <Darkrift2> i will go mad
[04:30] <maduser> I'll send it to you via DCC
[04:30] <ere4si> jack__: does admon work?
[04:30] <jack__> yes, I think
[04:30] <Darkrift2> ive spent soo many manhours dealing with this crappy chipset
[04:30] <ere4si> *admin
[04:31] <Darkrift2> could you also link me to the thread?
[04:31] <jack__> well I typed in the password so I hope it will work
[04:31] <Darkrift2> i thought i had read everything on ubuntu forums about broadcom
[04:31] <maduser> and help you through the install
[04:31] <Darkrift2> nice
[04:31] <ere4si> jack__: right click your user and select modify
[04:31] <maduser> as soon as i find it
[04:31] <jack__> nope
[04:31] <jack__> it didn't work
[04:32] <Darkrift2> im not used to xchat
[04:32] <Darkrift2> so i dont know if my dcc will accept
[04:32] <Darkrift2> ok, that ws easy
[04:32] <maduser> ok acept the offering from dcc
[04:32] <Darkrift2> i did
[04:32] <maduser> hmmm
[04:33] <ere4si> jack__: without admin rights I don't know how to change you're settings - sorry
[04:33] <jack__> yeah, the tale of my last 3 years on linux
[04:33] <maduser> did you get it?
[04:33] <Darkrift2> nope
[04:33] <Darkrift2> lemme check my settings
[04:34] <maduser> its still waing for you to accept
[04:34] <maduser> a new tab should have oppened
[04:34] <Darkrift2> it did
[04:34] <maduser> woops wait
[04:34] <Darkrift2> and as soon as it did i clicked accept
[04:34] <Darkrift2> and after a while it said failed
[04:34] <Darkrift2> accepted again
[04:35] <ere4si> jack__: I hope you can accept that it is you systems lack of resources not the various linux distros that is the issue - you're asking alot from very little
[04:35] <jack__> time stands still for me, well the world moves around me
[04:35] <maduser> ok screw this whats your email?
[04:36] <jack__> Yes, do not worry whenever I get a new computer it will be linux, I have always understood that it is the computer. I have tried over 20 distros, all wonderful, just not very usable on this computer.
[04:36] <ere4si> jack__: I do sympathise :)
[04:36] <jack__> I yearn for the day that MS will go bankrupt & open source unix-like OSes rain supreme
[04:37] <Darkrift2> lol maduser i think i found the problem
[04:38] <Darkrift2> a dialog is opening asking where to save it at, but its opening behind xchat and i dont see it unless i minimise
[04:38] <maduser> ok
[04:38] <maduser> fixed it?
[04:38] <Darkrift2> think so
[04:38] <Darkrift2> try to dcc once more
[04:39] <maduser> ok I'll try again
[04:39] <DrJuano> hi
[04:39] <maduser> ok is waiting
[04:39] <Darkrift2> darn
[04:39] <Darkrift2> not even letting me accept this one
[04:39] <CarlosR> hi DrJuano
[04:39] <maduser> I know
[04:39] <maduser> give me a minute
[04:39] <Darkrift2> no rush
[04:40] <Darkrift2> this has taken me a week, so a few minutes wont hurt me
[04:40] <Darkrift2> i spent 3 weeks last time i installed kubuntu
[04:40] <DrJuano> i got a huge trobule with kubuntu, describing: i`ve installed an usb modem as i usually do in ubuntu, but when kde starts all the KDE`s programs doesn t understand that there is an internet connection
[04:40] <maduser> ok
[04:41] <Darkrift2> accept is greyed out now
[04:41] <Darkrift2> did yo email it?
[04:42] <maduser> nah here is the url with the file and instrutions
[04:42] <Darkrift2> ok, sorry
[04:42] <maduser> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=197102
[04:42] <Darkrift2> its probably my end
[04:42] <maduser> thats it
[04:42] <Darkrift2> like i said, im new to xchat
[04:43] <maduser> that web page has the file and the instrutions
[04:44] <maduser> go to the part that says Dapper and Edgy (and Feisty/Gutsy with ndiswrapper)
[04:45] <maduser> Darkrift do you use Konversation?
[04:45] <maduser> or have it?
[04:45] <Darkrift2> i might have it
[04:45] <Darkrift2> but dont normally use it
[04:46] <Darkrift2> i have to reg at ubuntu forums real fast
[04:46] <maduser> ah
[04:50] <Darkrift2> ok, ran it
[04:50] <Darkrift2> said it worked, but still no internet
[04:51] <maduser> did you put in your install cd?
[04:51] <Darkrift2> yes, and its mounted at /cdrom
[04:52] <maduser> did you type sudo ./ne
[04:52] <maduser> i mean sudo infront of the program?
[04:52] <Darkrift2> yes
[04:52] <Darkrift2> it ran, and said it worked
[04:52] <Darkrift2> but it didnt
[04:52] <maduser> how long did it take?
[04:53] <Darkrift2> like 4-6 seconds
[04:53] <Darkrift2> im reading the script now
[04:53] <maduser> you did not do it right
[04:53] <Darkrift2> to see what might have failed
[04:53] <Darkrift2> lol
[04:53] <maduser> it should take longer
[04:53] <Darkrift2> i did exactly what it said
[04:53] <Darkrift2> i unpacked it
[04:53] <Darkrift2> then ran sudo ./ndiswrapper_setup
[04:53] <maduser> with cd in driver?
[04:53] <ChameleonDave> I've been told that the Katapult maintain often hangs around here.
[04:56] <jack__> ere4si: also since I have tried around 20 or more linux distros I can tell you which ones get my vote if a person has a good enough machine, first off anything that is deb based with KDE desktop ius a winner, that being said whenever I get a fast good computer I will either install on it Kubuntu or LinmuxMint KDE edition as those are the 2 distros I recomend for people who have good machines, they are really nice.
[04:57] <Darkrift2> ok, the script worked fine
[04:57] <Darkrift2> i just checked the log
[04:57] <Darkrift2> it just doesnt work like the tutorials dont work
[04:57] <Oswal_Kovelpod> jack__:  what about debian ?
[04:57] <maduser> ?
[04:57] <Darkrift2> the script does everything i have been doing
[04:57] <maduser> yeah
[04:57] <Darkrift2> it just uses its own version of the drivers which i had hoped would work
[04:57] <Darkrift2> nothing failed in the script though
[04:57] <jack__> Debian is really good, I like debian a lot if you are willing to convert all your mp3s to ogg & such it is amazing
[04:58] <maduser> what version of Broadcom do you have?
[04:58] <Darkrift2> 4311
[04:58] <ere4si> jack__: I agree with the deb based point but mint is based on a distro that is based on a distro - seems convaluted imho - kde is nice tho - needs some work but
[04:58] <Oswal_Kovelpod> debian has non-free repos did you know that ?
[04:59] <jack__> Yes I knew that Oswal, but if you are going to do that you might as well use Ubuntu or LinuxMint or another debian based distro
[04:59] <Oswal_Kovelpod> so is not necessary to convert all your music ^^
[04:59] <kgoetz> debian has mp3 support via gstreamer in main
[05:00] <jack__> To me though debian is an amazing distro, & stable as can be, but there has been so many amazing distros based on it that add so much good things to it
[05:00] <Oswal_Kovelpod> so for you debian is now incomplete ?
[05:00] <Oswal_Kovelpod> o.0
[05:01] <jack__> No for me debian is amazing, just very overly stable & a bit strict in the free ruule :p
[05:02] <dwidmann> jack__: very overly stable, if you want to fix that problem switch to sid :)
[05:02] <Oswal_Kovelpod> yeah :D
[05:02] <jack__> I have used sid, very nice, though as I said so many of the deb based distros have such nice & welcomed customizations :)
[05:03] <jack__> I prefer Etch to sid though
[05:04] <ere4si> jack__: that is the point - if a distro based on debian can do it - you can with debian
[05:05] <ere4si> and a distro based on a distro based on debian...
[05:05] <jack__> Also ere4si linuxmint is starting to test builds strictly based on debian without being based on ubuntu, also the linuxmin apps can be installed & work just fine on ubuntu & debian, so really the whole distro based on distro based on distro thing no longer applies.
[05:06] <ere4si> of course it applies jack__  :)
[05:06] <kgoetz> interesting as i find this, perhaps it should be in -offtopic?
[05:06] <jack__> no because I got most of the linux mint apps to work on debian etch
[05:06] <jack__> yes it should be in offtopic
[05:06] <ere4si> hehe :)
[05:07] <Jucato> (definitely in -offtopic...)
[05:07] <jack__> is there a kubuntu-offtopic or will it go to ubuntu-offtopic?
[05:07] <ere4si> !ot
[05:07] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[05:08] <jack__> will you be there ere4si?
[05:09] <ere4si> jack__: going there now
[05:10] <ChameleonDave> Hello everyone.  Does anyone use Katapult here?
[05:11] <ere4si> I tried it from the menu once - got an icon on the desktop then....nothing
[05:11] <Jucato> ChameleonDave: what seems to be the problem?
[05:12] <Jucato> ere4si: you're supposed to launch it with Alt+Space (after running it)
[05:12] <ere4si> ahh
[05:12] <ere4si> it just went away
[05:13] <Jucato> ere4si: Alt+Space, then type something (like a program name or a play list or numbers for the calculator
[05:13] <ChameleonDave> I recently lost my user directory (/home/david), when the partition it was on became corrupted.  When I created a new user directory, katapult no longer worked correctly.  It fails to start in fact.
[05:14] <ChameleonDave> All it does it announce the shortcut key to bring up the app, but the app window itself never appears, the shortcut key does nothing, and there is no katapult icon in the system tray.
[05:14] <ere4si> Jucato: is that what it does? - I have things I launch in a dock - one click
[05:14] <ChameleonDave> I want it to reside in the system tray as before.
[05:15] <ChameleonDave> I used to start Katapult by putting it in my KDE Autostart directory.
[05:15] <ChameleonDave> and it would then be there in my system tray, ready for use.
[05:15] <leo_rockw> katapult wins
[05:15] <Jucato> ere4si: it's a launcher for apps (you can't have all items in your panel right? :P), amarok playlists, documents (this one's ugly), google searches, spell checking, calculator
[05:16] <leo_rockw> katapult + yakuake = killer apps
[05:16] <ere4si> Jucato: I'm flattered you think I do so much :)
[05:16] <Jucato> ChameleonDave: Alt+Space, then Ctrl+C, and select Configure Katapult. then enable the system tray icon. or don't you even see the big Katapult icon when you press Alt+Space
[05:16] <ChameleonDave> Jucato: As I said, there is no icon.
[05:16] <Jucato> ere4si: I don't
[05:16] <ere4si> :(
[05:16] <Jucato> ChameleonDave: the big icon/black window?
[05:17] <ere4si> hehe
[05:17] <Oswal_Kovelpod> damn it installer just stop it -.-
[05:17] <ChameleonDave> Jucato: I know how Katapult is supposed to work.  I used it for months.  The point is that it has stopped working.
[05:17] <dwidmann> leo_rockw: yep, can't beat 'em
 Jucato: is that what it does? <-- ask a question. I answer
[05:17] <Jucato> ChameleonDave: hm... can you try starting it from Konsole to see if it starts at all?
[05:17] <ChameleonDave> Jucato: When it is run, all I see is the brief message informing me of the shortcut key to use the app.  That's it.
[05:17] <ere4si> Jucato: thnx
[05:18] <ChameleonDave> Jucato: I know you're trying to help, but you are being a little annoying.
[05:18] <Jucato> fine
[05:18] <sigma_1234> where does apt-get store downloaded packages?
[05:19] <ChameleonDave> Is anyone here familiar with the nuts and bolts of Katapult, and possible conflicts that might prevent it from starting correctly?
[05:19] <Jucato> sigma_1234: /var/cache/apt/ iirc
[05:20] <sigma_1234> do they stay there forever?
[05:20] <Jucato> fwiw, that's the point of running it from Konsole... so that you can see what might be preventing it from starting correctly... but since you know so much
[05:20] <leo_rockw> sigma_1234: unless you do apt-get clean
[05:21] <Jucato> sigma_1234: they're supposed to be automatically cleaned every 30 days I think
[05:21] <sigma_1234> how can i stop the auto clean?
[05:22] <ChameleonDave> Sigma_1234: the packages are stored at /var/cache/apt/archives/
[05:23] <ChameleonDave> Sigma_1234: open Synaptic and go to Preferences to change stuff like autocleaning
[05:24] <ChameleonDave> Jucato: It's just that you were asking for information that I had already given.
[05:25] <Jucato> ChameleonDave: did you give information about any error messages that might have appeared if you started it in Konsole?
[05:25] <ChameleonDave> Jucato: When I run Katapult, Konsole doesn't give me much info on what is happening.  It does however give a long list of items such as "Ignored duplicate item: Shisen-Sho"
[05:26] <ChameleonDave> Jucato: It is a long list of apps in the KDE menu, which Katapult presumably indexes.
[05:26] <ChameleonDave> Jucato: They look like they are probably apps which are duplicated in KDE3 and KDE4, both of which I have installed.
[05:27] <ChameleonDave> Jucato: There is no failure message.
[05:29] <ChameleonDave> It's all gone quiet...
[05:31] <pyro17> so quiet...
[05:33] <dwidmann> I can almost hear the metaphorical crickets chirping, so peaceful .... lol
[05:37] <pyro17> whats the diff between pimary and logical partition
[05:38] <pyro17> oh nm
[05:38] <_dennister> g'evening folks...ubuntu-server channel seems to be asleep, so wondering if the night-owl-experts  in here could help me with getting phpmyadmin to show up in my new apache site
[05:39] <_dennister> pyro17: u can only have 4 primary, untold logical partitions within an extended partition
[05:39] <pyro17> ah
[05:39] <_dennister> actually, 'untold' should be 'big number'
[05:40] <_dennister> pyro17: u must have one primary...i often use 2-3, then build the extended, and logical ones within the extended
[05:40] <pyro17> yea its going to be the first one on the drive
[05:41] <_dennister> then, if you add another hdd later, it's easy to put it's partitions into the extended as logical
[05:41] <_dennister> u got  it
[05:41] <pyro17> ye
[06:25] <marjan> !x-rar
[06:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about x-rar - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:26] <marjan> does any one knows how can i open a X-rar
[06:27] <ere4si> marjan: is that a   .rar    file?
[06:27] <marjan> yes
[06:27] <ere4si> !rar
[06:27] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[06:27] <marjan> but smb said it is for mac
[06:28] <ere4si> who's smb marjan
[06:28] <marjan> shane
[06:28] <marjan> :P
[06:28] <ere4si> marjan: if the file is for mac it prob won't work on kubuntu
[06:28] <Jucato> I'm guessing "smb" meant "somebody" in this case...
[06:29] <Jucato> (please try to use compelete words...)
[06:29] <marjan> ahhhhhh
[06:29] <marjan> ere4si:  is there a program to open it
[06:29] <marjan> after all its all a UNIX
[06:30] <ere4si> marjan: there is an app called unrar I believe in the repos
[06:30] <ere4si> !info unrar
[06:30] <ubotu> unrar (source: unrar-nonfree): Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:3.7.3-1.1 (gutsy), package size 94 kB, installed size 232 kB
[06:31] <marjan> ere4si: can i send you one file and tell me if you can open it
[06:31] <ere4si> marjan: I don't open files I don't know...
[06:31] <marjan> k
[06:31] <marjan> sorry
[06:32] <ere4si> marjan: install unrar and you'll open it
[06:32] <marjan> i cant found it
[06:32] <Kr|ptiX> !broadcom
[06:32] <ubotu> Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[06:33] <kgoetz> !msgthebot | Kr|ptiX
[06:33] <ubotu> Kr|ptiX: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[06:33] <marjan> will KArchiver work ere4si
[06:33] <ere4si> marjan: once unrar is installed yes
[06:35] <marjan> where can i found this "unrar" its not in add/rem ere4si
[06:35] <newday4me> hi -little backround last week i found 2 many errors 2 count in my winxp so i emergency boot orig. winme and after 2 days of being in the prehistoric era of software i downloaded ubuntu 7 and tried puppy live and finally just instlld kubuntu when i kept seeing everything I wanted was designed for kde....my? how do i set up network connections and should i?
[06:35] <ere4si> marjan: you need to enable more repositories
[06:35] <ere4si> !repos | marjan
[06:35] <ubotu> marjan: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[06:36] <marjan> k
[06:36] <marjan> but i am on  GNOME
[06:36] <kgoetz> why are you asking here then?
[06:37] <kgoetz> newday4me: can you give us more details?
[06:37] <ere4si> marjan: the links are for ubuntu because the process is the same - ubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu or ...
[06:37] <Jucato> (unrar should be available from the default repos...)
[06:38] <ere4si> Jucato: is in multiverse
[06:38] <Jucato> since Feisty, multiverse has been enabled by default
[06:39] <ere4si> k :)
[06:39] <Jucato> (unless you installed without an internet connection, then no repositories are enabled)
[06:39] <ere4si> ahhh
[06:39] <ere4si> of course
[06:39] <Darkrift2> hrmmmmm
[06:39] <newday4me> o.k.  network folder is embty and samba
[06:40] <kgoetz> newday4me: can you connect to the net from the computer?
[06:40] <ere4si> marjan: if you're on gnome then why karchiver?
[06:40] <newday4me> I'm nervous about desktop sharing ...-yes
[06:41] <kgoetz> newday4me: what do you mean desktop sharing?
[06:42] <Darkrift2> I am offering $15 to anyone who has a Revolution Money account and sucessfully gets my broadcom 4311 wireless card working for/with me. I have spent days (and last time I spent 3 weeks) getting it working, tutorial after tutorial, tip after tip. I know not everyone has one of these accounts, but thats all I can offer right now.
[06:43] <ere4si> we work for free here Darkrift2  - if we have the answer
[06:43] <Boohbah> Darkrift2: 32 or 64 bit?
[06:43] <Darkrift2> i know, but im getting desperate
[06:43] <Darkrift2> 32b
[06:44] <Boohbah> ok, have you installed ndiswraper?
[06:44] <Darkrift2> yes
[06:44] <Boohbah> *wrapper
[06:44] <Darkrift2> and ive tried like 12 sets of drivers
[06:44] <newday4me> it seems like one folder goes to another and either i dont have access or i dont know the answer ie:net folder info..what server ?    -Krfb
[06:44] <newday4me> and krdc
[06:44] <ere4si> Darkrift2: you need to find out the chip for a start
[06:44] <Darkrift2> im 80% sure last time i got it working was with ndiswrapper, but its been a while and it might have been the built in driver, but i doubt it
[06:45] <Darkrift2> i noted what chip i have
[06:45] <Darkrift2>  and sucessfully gets my broadcom 4311 wireless card
[06:45] <Kheops> hi hi
[06:45] <Kheops> somebody for help ? :)
[06:45] <kgoetz> !anyone
[06:45] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[06:45] <Kheops> i want to create ntfs partition on my kubuntu
[06:46] <Kheops> how can i do it ?
[06:46] <Darkrift2> i have vista, and the drivers vista uses dont work (they give an error about wrong format) so I have used drivers from tutorials, and lots of different ones from different laptop manuf's (even my own laptops xp drivers)
[06:46] <ere4si> Darkrift2: then the !broadcom link should get it working for you... - use xp drivers
[06:46] <Darkrift2> there is either something i am missing (another underlaying problem) or a special driver that i need that i have not found
[06:47] <Darkrift2> ive followed that one many times ere4si
[06:47] <Darkrift2> ive even followed the ones that link from that one
[06:47] <Darkrift2> and all the others on ubuntu forums that note 43xx
[06:47] <Darkrift2> ive even tried the script on ubuntu forums that supposedly does it all for you
[06:48] <Darkrift2> they all end by telling me "your wireless should now be working" and it isnt
[06:48] <ere4si> Darkrift2: I don't use any wireless - ask again in a little while when there are more folks available - sorry
[06:48] <Darkrift2> heh
[06:48] <Darkrift2> its ok
[06:48] <Darkrift2> ive been asking for 3 days... some ppl dive in but never get it solved
[06:48] <Darkrift2> hence me trying to sweeten the deal a little
[06:49] <Darkrift2> im sure ppl in here and in #linux are tired of hearing me ask, but i REALLY dont want to stick with vista
[06:50] <ere4si> Darkrift2: if it is a bcm43xx chip then it should get installed - be very careful each step
[06:50] <Darkrift2> i have
[06:50] <DarkriftX> When trying to install my wifi with ndiswrapper, after following the tutorial my wifi isnt working like it should be and i get the following in dmesg: http://pastebin.com/m7113441c  - Can anyone tell me what i could to do solve this?
[06:51] <Darkrift2> there is soem of my dmesg output after trying the last time
[06:51] <Darkrift2> i get almost the exact same with every driver/tutorial i try
[06:53] <Kheops> i want to do a NTFS partition
[06:53] <newday4me> Darkrift2- can u back up important data, wipe out your drives and start fresh- reboot vista or a livecd/dvd -its a pain in the ... but i had to do it after days of looking at the lights on my modem say i was connected -but i wasnt
[06:53] <Kheops> can somebody help me ?
[06:54] <ere4si> Darkrift2: is it a notebook?
[06:55] <Kheops> hmmm
[06:55] <newday4me> Kheops- windows?
[06:55] <Kheops> NTFS
[06:55] <newday4me> are u using windows now
[06:55] <Kheops> NOOO
[06:55] <Kr|ptiX> where do i go to get help with install themes
[06:55] <Kheops> i just want to do a ntfs partition on my Kubuntu i said
[06:55] <Kheops> !
[06:56] <Kheops> k ?>
[06:56] <newday4me> well do a query for the kubuntu version of diskpart
[06:57] <Kheops> ?
[06:57] <Kheops> don't understand what u asking
[06:57] <Kheops> u want to know my kubuntu version ?
[06:57] <TeslaTony> Kheops: System>Partition Editor
[06:57] <Kheops> hmm and ?
[06:58] <Kheops> i don't have
[06:58] <Kheops> -> Partition Editor
[06:58] <Kheops> !
[06:58] <Kheops> tell me for command line
[06:58] <newday4me> in windows cmd promt diskpart- makes partitions, deletes partitions, enables choice of boot partition
[06:58] <TeslaTony> Kheops: Then install Gparted through Synaptic or Adept
[06:58] <Kheops> i don't HAVE WINDOWS
[06:58] <Kheops> god..
[06:58] <Kheops> how can i see if i have it installed ?
[06:59] <TeslaTony> You're using Kubuntu?
[06:59] <Darkrift2> sorry guys, i had to put my kids to bed
[06:59] <Darkrift2> yes, its a notebook
[06:59] <Kheops> YES
[06:59] <Kheops> i said 3 times
[06:59] <Darkrift2> and newday4me this is a fresh install... i installed it last night
[06:59] <Kheops> pay attention please
[07:00] <ere4si> Kheops: in konsole type    df -h   it will tell you the mounted partitions
[07:00] <Darkrift2> ive done nothing except install xchat on it
[07:00] <TeslaTony> Go into Adept and search for gparted, it should pull it up and whether it's installed
[07:00] <Kheops> i know
[07:00] <ere4si> Darkrift2: is the wireless onboard or usb pls?
[07:00] <Kheops> but i want to know how to make a NTFS partition
[07:00] <Darkrift2> its minipci
[07:00] <Darkrift2> builtin
[07:01] <kgoetz> Kheops: try cfdisk and mkfs
[07:01] <Kheops> both ?
[07:01] <kgoetz> !ntfs > Kheops
[07:01] <ere4si> Darkrift2: tried any alternative boot options like -   noapic nolapic   ?
[07:01] <Kheops> i read this yesterday
[07:02] <Kheops> not usefull
[07:02] <Darkrift2> i have to use apic=off to boot or i get odd looking graphics and cant continue
[07:02] <Kheops> so can somebody helps me ?
[07:02] <TeslaTony> Are you putting the partition on the primary hard drive? The one Kubuntu is running from? If you are, you'll probably have to do it from a livecd
[07:02] <Darkrift2> but i had to do that on my old install when i got it working
[07:02] <Kheops> nop
[07:02] <Kheops> not primary
[07:02] <Kr|ptiX> where do i go to get help with install themes kubuntu
[07:02] <kgoetz> Kheops: did you look at what i said about cfdisk?
[07:02] <Kheops> aha
[07:02] <Kheops> not usefull
[07:02] <Darkrift2> i do get an odd error about using something like -noplugnplay or something right after grep loads the kernel
[07:02] <Darkrift2> i dont think i had that before
[07:02] <kgoetz> Kheops: why?
[07:03] <ere4si> Darkrift2: willing to try      noapic nolapic     on a reboot then have another go to install the drivers?
[07:03] <Kheops> Because i want to make a NTFS partition
[07:03] <Kheops> !
[07:03] <Darkrift2> but it says trying to workaround and then continues to boot
[07:03] <kgoetz> Kheops: *SO*?
[07:03] <Darkrift2> whats the format for adding those?
[07:03] <Kheops> so how i do it ?
[07:03] <Darkrift2> -noapic ?
[07:03] <Darkrift2> or is it apic=no
[07:03] <Darkrift2> lol
[07:03] <kgoetz> Kheops: make a partition then format it. use cfdisk and mkfs respectively
[07:04] <ere4si> Darkrift2: I would add them at the end of the kernel line in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:04] <Kheops> both ?
[07:04] <ere4si> noapic nolapic
[07:04] <kgoetz> yes. use both.
[07:04] <Kheops> how to make a partition NTFS
[07:04] <Kheops> ?
[07:04] <Kheops> that's the question not the answer
[07:04]  * kgoetz puts Kheops on ignore. if someone wants to help him, go for it.
[07:04] <ere4si> Kheops: use the windows disk on you're free space
[07:05] <Kheops> hmmmm lol i just had it
[07:05] <Kheops> i format it as ntfs but linux don't recocnize and i format
[07:05] <Kheops> to ext3
[07:05] <newday4me> darkdrift2- honestly i used windows for a long time and the driver assigning and compatability always gave me a migraine-
[07:05] <Darkrift2> kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=UUID=867a86d6-474c-417d-bf33-70e2839b5601 apic=off ro quiet splash noapic nolapic
[07:05] <Darkrift2> like that?
[07:05] <Kheops> and now i want to make a NTFS partition to be recognize in Linux
[07:05] <Kheops> understand ?
[07:06] <ere4si> Darkrift2: yep
[07:06] <Darkrift2> ok, ill try it :S
[07:06] <ere4si> good luck - install the wireless after the boot
[07:06] <Kheops> hmmm somebody for help ?
[07:06] <Darkrift2> Kheops, linux reads ntfs just fine if you install ntfs3g
[07:06] <Kheops> no need
[07:06] <Darkrift2> i played WOW off a ntfs partition for 4 months with it
[07:07] <Darkrift2> you can make ntfs in gparted
[07:07] <ere4si> I thought ntfs-3g was default now?
[07:07] <Darkrift2> or cfdisk
[07:07] <Kheops> i have too a ntfs partition but i forgot how to do it
[07:07] <Darkrift2> do what?
[07:07] <Kheops> do a ntfs
[07:07] <Darkrift2> create one?
[07:07] <Kheops> can u know how ?
[07:07] <Darkrift2> use gparted, its gui
[07:07] <Kheops> he don't do ntfs
[07:07] <Kheops> :)
[07:07] <Darkrift2> easy to use
[07:07] <Darkrift2> erm, im sure it does
[07:07] <Kheops> no no
[07:07] <Kheops> :)
[07:07] <Darkrift2> you might need something else to format it
[07:07] <Kheops> i just use it
[07:07] <Darkrift2> yes yes
[07:08] <Kheops> !!!!!!!!!!
[07:08] <Kheops> i use it
[07:08] <Darkrift2> it does EVERY partition type ive ever seen
[07:08] <Kheops> to do the partition ext3
[07:08] <Darkrift2> then use cfdisk (command line)
[07:08] <Kheops> don't have access to write
[07:08] <Darkrift2> once you create a partition, use [type] to change it to nfts
[07:08] <Kheops> i gave the permision but no access...
[07:08] <Darkrift2> then you need something to format it
[07:08] <markc> how can I burn the current kubuntu iso from the command line ?
[07:08] <Darkrift2> most likely mkfs.ntfs (i think) (which i believe would be mkfs if you are installing it)
[07:09] <Darkrift2> anyways, i gotta reboot
[07:09] <Darkrift2> good luck
[07:09] <Kheops> hmmm somebody for help ?!?!?!?!
[07:09] <Apple_Cat__> Kheops: sorry my internet is playing around, man -k keyword is the command to look for a command so in your case man -k partition is what you want
[07:10] <Kheops> what ?
[07:10] <Kheops> can u help me or not?
[07:10] <DarkriftX> Kheops use CFDISK, i KNOW it will create one
[07:10] <Kheops> he don't have access to write
[07:10] <Kheops> u understand ?
[07:10] <DarkriftX> no
[07:10] <DarkriftX> i dotn understand
[07:10] <Kheops> i gave the access but still no access..
[07:10] <DarkriftX> if you cannot write, you need to be root probably
[07:10] <Kheops> NO
[07:10] <Kheops> i just did
[07:11] <Apple_Cat__> hrm ?
[07:11] <markc> ah right -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CdDvdBurning
[07:11] <Kheops> so can i get some help ?1
[07:11] <ere4si> Kheops: you're confusing folks - start again pls
[07:11] <Kheops> lol ?
[07:11] <DarkriftX> he can create a nfts partition
[07:11] <ere4si> .
[07:11] <DarkriftX> says gparted wont do it
[07:11] <DarkriftX> but im sure it will
[07:11] <Kheops> NOO
[07:12] <Kheops> let me DarkriftX u don't know what to do it
[07:12] <DarkriftX> may not format it bt im almost sure ive created one before
[07:12] <ere4si> start at the beginning Kheops
[07:12] <Kheops> so let other ppls to help
[07:12] <Kheops> ok
[07:12] <Kheops> i have 2 HDD
[07:12] <ere4si> .
[07:12] <Kheops> first 2 partition
[07:12] <ere4si> ..
[07:13] <Kheops> 1 ext3 and 2 ntfs
[07:13] <Kheops> and on the other hdd
[07:13] <DarkriftX> ere4si are you in the us?
[07:13] <Kheops> i want a big partition
[07:13] <Kheops> ntfs
[07:13] <Kheops> u understand ?
[07:13] <ere4si> Dark nope Aussie
[07:13] <DarkriftX> damn
[07:13] <Kheops> i formated the HDD in win32 but linux don't recognize and i made it ext3
[07:13] <DarkriftX> i wish you were and had a revoultion money account
[07:13] <markc> ere4si: whereabouts ?
[07:14] <Kheops> U understand ?!?!?!?!?
[07:14] <DarkriftX> you were the first to solve my problem :)
[07:14] <ere4si> Kheops: use you're windows cd
[07:14] <DarkriftX> iwlist eth1 scanning works :)
[07:14] <Kheops> LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
[07:14] <Kheops> i just DID
[07:14] <ere4si> markc: brissy
[07:14] <Kheops> god..
[07:14] <Kheops> realy i want to speak with the ppl who can help
[07:14] <Kheops> please
[07:14] <ere4si> Kheops: I'm a long way away - what happened?
[07:14] <markc> ere4si: me on the GC
[07:14] <ere4si> markc: :)
[07:15] <Kheops> Jucato: are u here man ?
[07:15] <DarkriftX> Kheops sorry, we dont understand you very well, but apparently we cannot help you :S
[07:15] <DarkriftX> every time soemone tells you something you say no
[07:15] <Jucato> Kheops: do not be so demanding. no one here is paid to help you
[07:15] <DarkriftX> maybe you need a channel more for your language
[07:15] <Jucato> everyone here are just volunteers
[07:15] <Kheops> hmmm so close the channel
[07:15] <Kheops> and i can do a new channel
[07:15] <Kheops> ;)
[07:16] <Jucato> no
[07:16] <ere4si> Kheops: yep - do that
[07:16] <Kheops> so i can do a partition in this age ?
[07:16]  * Darkrift2 joins on wifi :)
[07:16]  * Darkrift2 bows to ere4si 
[07:16] <ere4si> already yahhhh
[07:16] <Jucato> Darkrift2: so who earneed your $15? :)
[07:16] <lanoxx> how can i fix a broken install? adept always breaks with a commit error after installing a new package
[07:17] <Darkrift2> ere4si, but he doestn have a rev money account :(
[07:17] <ere4si> Jucato: told him we work for free :)
[07:17] <Darkrift2> :( *
[07:17] <Jucato> ere4si: aw...
[07:17] <Jucato> there goes your $15 :P
[07:17] <Sir_Corgi> Is there another channel besides #kubuntu-kde4 where I can ask questions about KDE4?  That channel seems dead as a doorknob.
[07:17] <Jucato> lanoxx: depends on what's broken or how broken it is. try installing packages from the command line to see what's happening
[07:17] <Kheops> hmmm "thank you" for helping me..
[07:17] <ere4si> the bow was more than enough :)
[07:17] <Jucato> !night | Sir_Corgi
[07:17] <ubotu> Sir_Corgi: It's the middle of the night in the US and Europe, and surrounds.  This means that a lot of people are likely asleep, therefore there are less potential people who can answer your question.  Please be patient, and consider asking at a time when more people will be awake.  This is particularly true in the quieter channels.
[07:18] <Sir_Corgi> Holy.
[07:18] <Sir_Corgi> I'm sorry.
[07:18] <Kheops> can somebody help me this age to solve the problem ?
[07:18] <Darkrift2> i could have wasted 5-15 more days, 2-4 hours a day.... if i were being paid minimum wages $7 an hour, you could have saved me hundreds of dollars, I really wish you had an account with them so I could make a donation for your help
[07:19] <ere4si> Kheops: we try - you don't help us help you - so no
[07:19] <Darkrift2> and you are demanding :S
[07:19] <Kheops> lol ?
[07:19] <ere4si> no lol
[07:19] <Jucato> Kheops: your attitude doesn't help
[07:20] <Kheops> man if i stay here 10000000 hours to be help is a good thing ?
[07:20] <ere4si> Kheops: come back tommorrow
[07:20] <Kheops> ere4si: 10q for your help
[07:20] <Darkrift2> stop demanding help, and try to ask for it a little nicer and yo might get it
[07:20] <newday4me> ?I just opened KSire for the 1st time and it crashed, ?
[07:20] <emilsedgh> Kheops: even if you stay for 2 years, you might get no help
[07:20] <Darkrift2> your method is the problem
[07:20] <Kheops> because this channel is not for help..
[07:20] <Darkrift2> if you give me a few minutes, i will try to figure out how to do it
[07:20] <Kheops> i see..
[07:21] <Darkrift2> you are being a jerk
[07:21] <Darkrift2> if you want me to help, quit it
[07:21] <emilsedgh> btw whats your problem?
[07:21] <ere4si> oh no
[07:21] <Darkrift2> im currently installing gparted so i can figure out how you can do it
[07:21] <Jucato> Kheops: I am giving you your final warning. behave in this channel
[07:21] <lanoxx> Jucato: seems that there is a problem installing the java docs
[07:21] <lanoxx>  sun-java5-doc
[07:22] <Kheops> Jucato: u can do what u want u have @ ;)
[07:22] <Jucato> lanoxx: can you please put the errors in a pastebin
[07:22] <Jucato> I do not do what I want. only what's necessary. I'm not a control freak
[07:23] <Kheops> u have @ as i said
[07:23] <newday4me> sorry miss type KSirc
[07:23] <Kheops> u can do anything u want :)
[07:23] <lanoxx> Jucato: ok, wait a sec
[07:23] <jussi01> !u | Kheops
[07:23] <ubotu> Kheops: Unless you're Dutch or Flemish, or a government officier, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun.  If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you".  The same goes for "are", "why", "because", "anyone", and so on..
[07:23] <Jucato> newday4me: hm... ksirc is pretty old now... can you start it from Konsole and see what errors come out when you start it and it crashes? (or you can try using Konversation for IRC)
[07:23] <Kheops> ha ha ha this is IRC i told u
[07:23] <Darkrift2> Kheops, im in the process of trying to help you
[07:24] <Darkrift2> if you dont shut up, you will be kicked and wont get my help
[07:24] <Darkrift2> just chill for a few minutes
[07:24] <Kheops> because u have @ too ?
[07:24] <Darkrift2> no0tic, because you are ticking others off
[07:24] <Darkrift2> and they will kick yo before i can help you
[07:24] <Kheops> they use kick because they can..
[07:24] <Kheops> i can stop them because i'm not God
[07:25] <newday4me> i dont need the program i just opened it out of curiosity - i just want 2 be sure it wont affect anything else ie:dependencies
[07:25] <kgoetz> Darkrift2: theres a reason i said i was going to stop helping him/her
[07:25] <Darkrift2> ok, you are right, gparted doesnt do it, let me check something else
[07:26] <Jucato> newday4me: it won't. it isn't even installed by default
[07:26] <ere4si> Kheops: please have another try tomorrow
[07:26] <Darkrift2> i know kgoetz but hes prob jsut frustrated so whatever
[07:26] <Kheops> because he don't know that's why he don't help..
[07:26] <Kheops> it is simple to understand
[07:26] <Darkrift2> i dont know, but im helping find out
[07:26] <Darkrift2> fdisk seems to know ntfs
[07:26] <Darkrift2> fdisk /dev/XXX
[07:27] <Kheops> hmm cfdisk don't have permision
[07:27] <kgoetz> Darkrift2: he may be, but theres no point you getting worked up over him
[07:27] <Kheops> to write
[07:27] <pyro17> theres so much to do
[07:27] <pyro17> i just installed kubuntu
[07:27] <Darkrift2> i didnt say cfdisk, just fdisk
[07:27] <Kheops> kgoetz: u may be kiked
[07:27] <newday4me> i have a small install addiction-just 2 see what things are- i'm new to this and its enthralling
[07:27] <pyro17> and im doing like codecs ans stuff
[07:27] <Kheops> Jucato: look at kgoetz..and tell him "the rules"
[07:27] <lanoxx> Jucato: http://pastebin.org/25215
[07:27] <Jucato> Kheops: you should read them yourself
[07:27] <Jucato> *and* follow them
[07:28] <Kheops> i "folow" them
[07:28] <Darkrift2> if nothing has write access to your disk, your problem is not creating a ntfs partition, its getting control over your disk first
[07:28] <Kheops> so somebody knows how to make and mount a NTFS partition on Kubuntu ?
[07:29] <pyro17> uh
[07:29] <pyro17> do it in wondows
[07:29] <pyro17> then mount it
[07:29] <Kheops> i just did
[07:29] <ere4si> Darkrift2: until he/she is able/willing to state the prob properly you won't be able to help him/heroh no
[07:29] <ere4si> oops
[07:29] <Kheops> but the kubuntu don't recognize it
[07:29] <Kheops> and i formated and made it ext3
[07:29] <Darkrift2> kharon0_,  in fdisk, nfts is type [7]
[07:29] <Kheops> and now i want to make ntfs
[07:29] <Jucato> lanoxx: did you follow the instructions there?
[07:30] <Darkrift2> and that ends my attempt at helping
[07:30] <markc> FWIW this burnt me a CD, thanks for the help -> sudo cdrecord dev=/dev/sr0 driveropts=burnfree -v -data kubuntu-8.04-beta-desktop-i386.iso
[07:30] <Kheops> pyro17: i have it ext3 now and i want it NTFS
[07:30] <Jucato> pyro17: install the "Kubuntu Restricted Extras" (kubuntu-restricted-extras) package to get most of the codecs
[07:31] <Kheops> pffffff i waste 2 hours for a simple thing..
[07:31] <Kheops> why linux have 10000 problems
[07:31] <Kheops> ...
[07:31] <Jucato> maybe Linux just is not for you
[07:31] <DarkriftX> its not linux, this is apparently an operator error
[07:32] <Kheops> mabey
[07:32] <Jucato> you're always free to go back
[07:32] <dwidmann> Kheops: name an os that doesn't have 10,000 problems
[07:32] <pyro17> Jucato i literally just found that package and looked and you said it too
[07:32] <pyro17> lol
[07:32] <ere4si> Kheops: you forgot the t on the end of pfffff
[07:32] <Darkrift2> i spent 3-4 days getting my wifi working... wasnt linux's fault, it was broadcoms fault and mine for not knowing the answer (which ere4si did)
[07:32] <ere4si> hehe
[07:32] <Kheops> hmm so how can i do a NTFS partition ?
[07:33] <Darkrift2> i already told you
[07:33] <Darkrift2> creating a ntfs partition is NOT YOUR PROBLEM
[07:33] <Darkrift2> your problem is getting control of your disk
[07:33] <Darkrift2> because if you dont have write access to the drive itself, you are not going to get very far
[07:33] <Kheops> it is in my pc and it is ext3 and i can write on it
[07:33] <Kheops> :))
[07:33] <Darkrift2> delete that partition
[07:33] <Jucato> Kheops: have you tried using a GUI tool like GParted or QtParted?
[07:33] <Kheops> yep
[07:33] <Darkrift2> then use cfdisk to recreate it
[07:33] <Kheops> works fine
[07:33] <Darkrift2> simple
[07:33] <Kheops> but not ntfs
[07:33] <ere4si> Darkrift2: it is a troll I THINK
[07:34] <Darkrift2> IF you have control over the disk
[07:34] <Darkrift2> heh, maybe
[07:34] <Darkrift2> i have a command for that :)
[07:34] <Jucato> ere4si: don't provoke please
[07:34] <Kheops> Jucato: tell to stop or i will respond to this childs
[07:34] <Kheops> ;)
[07:34] <dwidmann> Kheops: why not try the ext2/3 driver for windows instead?
[07:34] <ere4si> apologies to all
[07:34] <lanoxx> Jucato: will that fix the problem?
[07:34] <Jucato> lanoxx: let's hope so.
[07:34] <Kheops> because linux don't recognize
[07:34] <Kheops> the partition
[07:34] <pyro17> Jucato should i also do the automatix thing?
[07:35] <Kheops> first i formated with windows
[07:35] <Kheops> in ntfs
[07:35] <Darkrift2> lol dwidmann ..... windows has a hard enough time reading its own filesystems.... dont try to make it read others or your asking for real problems
[07:35] <Jucato> !ntfs | Kheops
[07:35] <ubotu> Kheops: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE
[07:35] <Jucato> pyro17: no
[07:35] <Kheops> and now i transform it in ext3
[07:35] <Kheops> Jucato: why u paste me that link i read it for 3 times
[07:35] <Kheops> no usefull
[07:35] <dwidmann> Darkrift2: not like ntfs-3g is perfect either
[07:36] <lanoxx> Jucato: ok worked, thx :)
[07:36] <dwidmann> Darkrift2: it can't even cope with the drive not having been unmounted properly at all in my experience.
[07:36] <Darkrift2> really
[07:36] <Darkrift2> i never noticed
[07:36] <Kheops> pffff Jucato help me or... ?
[07:36] <Darkrift2> i had a nfts partition i used to play wow on thru wine
[07:36] <Jucato> or what?
[07:37] <Kheops> i duno help ?
[07:37] <Darkrift2> i had to mount it by hand every time because i never added it to fstab (was a lil new still) and never unmounted it so sometimes it wasnt unmounted during power outages and still worked
[07:38] <dwidmann> Darkrift2: hmm, wouldn't cope for me :\
[07:39] <dwidmann> Darkrift2: gave me an error message saying that it hadn't been unmounted properly last time ... that I would either need to either mount it in windows and unmount cleanly, or try mounting with some sort of force option
[07:39] <Kheops> someone for helping here ?
[07:39] <dwidmann> darkrift2: It had lost power in the middle of a heavy transfer
[07:39] <Darkrift2> lol
[07:39] <Darkrift2> that sucks
[07:39] <Kohlrabi> dwidmann: I had this error all the time, too, about 1 year ago
[07:39] <Darkrift2> ahhh, mine was always idle during power loss
[07:39] <drif> am I able to force install/liveCD to run from memory only?
[07:39] <Kohlrabi> Was using etch and NTFS-3G-beta back then
[07:40] <dwidmann> Kohlrabi: I was using gutsy ... must have been about a month or two ago
[07:40] <Kohlrabi> mmh
[07:41] <Kohlrabi> I rarely boot intu kubuntu nowadays *cough*
[07:42] <dwidmann> anyhow, I'll be right back, need to log out/log in for some updates to take effect .... shouldn't take a reboot I hope
[07:49] <ere4si> if I use the nvidia driver in kubuntu I get a wsod - no probs in ubuntu
[07:49] <dwidmann> ere4si: weird
[07:50] <dwidmann> ere4si: I hope I don't run into similar issues with my newly ordered 8600gt
[07:51] <ere4si> dwidmann: it's a new install and hve ha more then a few issues - that was the main one
[07:51] <ere4si> *have had
[07:51] <dwidmann> ere4si: what version of kubuntu were you using?
[07:52] <ere4si> it's full of guts :)
[07:53] <ere4si> dwidmann: gutsy hehe
[07:53] <dwidmann> ere4si: I'll probably be putting hardy alpha 6 on it, hopefully I'll have better luck
[07:53] <dwidmann> ere4si: which specific card do you have?
[07:54] <ere4si> I wish you luck - first time I've had issues
[07:54] <ere4si> dwidmann: on this test box - tnt2
[07:54] <dwidmann> ere4si: I know my 6600gt, 7600gt, 7900gtx, and I forget what the other one was, but it too, have worked flawlessly for me
[07:55] <ere4si> can I get amarok to play on open?
[07:55] <ere4si> dwidmann: never had issues b4
[07:55] <dwidmann> ere4si: yes
[07:56] <dwidmann> ere4si: in settings, playback tab, resume on start
[07:56] <ere4si> dwidmann: this is the first kubuntu I've done more than just look at :)
[07:56] <ere4si> thnx
[07:57] <dwidmann> I think I'm going to bed .... 4:00am and the caffeine is starting to wear off
[07:58] <pyro17> why is the database locked
[07:58] <ere4si> dwidmann: nite
[07:58] <jussi01> !aptfix
[07:58] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[07:58] <pyro17> adept installer crashes when it trys to resolve
[07:59] <jussi01> pyro17: ^^
[08:00] <noaXess> what about lightscribe function on cd/dvd writing? any special tool for this?
[08:00] <pyro17> jussi01: thanks that worked
[08:00] <pyro17> why tho
[08:01] <dwidmann> noaXess: IIRC k3b has a lightscribe plugin available
[08:01] <noaXess> dwidmann: aha.. :) cool..
[08:02] <noaXess> dwidmann: is this intalled default or ned to be installed separatly?
[08:02] <jussi01> pyro17: sometimes adept crashes, it happens...
[08:02] <dwidmann> noaXess: seperately, I think, check http://www.k3b.org
[08:02] <noaXess> dwidmann: ok
[08:03] <noaXess> dwidmann: aha LaCie LithScribe Labler.. :)
[08:03] <pyro17> jussi01 but a restart didnt fix it...
[08:08] <sherl0ck> hey i lost my post in the forums, anyone help?
[08:08] <jussi01> pyro17: yeah, its pretty simple, when adept opens, it locks the database file so no other adept/apts processes can use it. (to prevent doubling up on data). if adept crashes, the database is left as locked, so you need to fix it.
[08:08] <sherl0ck> it was a tutorial was writing
[08:08] <Kheops> hi
[08:09] <Kheops> somebody to help ?
[08:09] <jussi01> sherl0ck: try #ubuntuforums
[08:09] <ubuntu> utiliser internet
[08:09] <ubuntu> ????
[08:10] <jussi01> !fr | ubuntu
[08:10] <ubotu> ubuntu: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[08:10] <jussi01> ubuntu-fr: type: /join #kubuntu-fr
[08:11] <Kheops> somebody to help ??????
[08:11] <jussi01> !ask | Kheops
[08:11] <ubotu> Kheops: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[08:12] <Kheops> i want to create a NTFS partition
[08:12] <Kheops> i have it ext3
[08:12] <Kheops> and now i want to make it NTFS
[08:12] <jussi01> Kheops: we went through this with you earlier.
[08:13] <Kheops> what ?
[08:15] <DarkriftX> lol
[08:16] <Kheops> nice channel
[08:20] <DarkriftX> how do i find out my own ip?
[08:20] <jussi01> ifconfig
[08:21] <DarkriftX> ty
[08:24] <Kheops> How can i make a NTFS partition ?
[08:44] <bashmb> kubintu> ubuntu
[08:50] <bashmb> kubuntu > ubuntu, yes?
[08:50] <doktoreas> hello everybody, is three a lugin to have a close button over tab in konqueror?
[08:51] <jussi01> doktoreas: you dont like the one on the right?
[08:51] <jussi01> bashmb: that depends an you, try them both and see what you think
[08:52] <klerfayt> how did you resolve the pager/compiz conflict in kubuntu hardy heron?
[08:52] <jussi01> klerfayt: hardy help in #ubuntu+1 :)
[08:52] <klerfayt> (I mean I haven't tried it myself, but in kubuntu gutsy gibbon the pager is incompatible with compiz)
[08:53] <sigma_1234> do fm radio cards work in ubuntu?
[08:53] <klerfayt> jussi01: you get hardly any answers related to kubuntu there
[08:55] <meeero> i'd need some help with knetworkmanager. recently i installed kubuntu for a friend, he uses wlan, some netgear-usb-device. after kubuntu was installed (and even before it worked as live-cd), knetworkmanager recognized the usb-device and searched for deviced to connect to. i selected the appropriate one and it worked. but since yesterday it does not do that any more. it doesn't search for lan-stations any more, it doesn't show any of
[08:55] <meeero>  the (about 5) available ones in his building. that's a problem now because he needs internet and otherwise i'd be forced to install windows and the manufacturer's software again. i believe it happened after he accidentaly set up something with manual control, after that - even if i set it to automatic-by-dhcp, it did not try to find any devices any more
[08:55] <meeero> the question now is how to configure knetworkconfig to behave as if it was installed for the first time - when it was searching for devices
[08:56] <meeero> i tried to remove its config file in .kde, but that did not work, any suggestions?
[08:57] <meeero> i'm going there in about one hour, i'll need to know what to do then, because there's not internet available
[08:57] <klerfayt> meeero: delete the file $HOME/.kde/share/config/knetworkmanagerrc
[08:57] <meeero> i did
[08:57] <klerfayt> meeero: maybe it's also in /root/?
[08:57] <meeero> nothing changed
[08:57] <meeero> hm, that could be so
[08:57] <meeero> since it uses sudo, as far as i know, since that is an administrative job
[08:58] <meeero> but i was not asked for the user's sudo-password, it starts at system-startup and doesn't work as it did when it was installed for the first time
[08:58] <meeero> i believe it's a bug in knetworkconfig, since it *should* search automaticaly for new devices when dhcp-automatic is set, true?
[09:00] <meeero> he also has eth0, an internal network-device to use with a cable, but that worked neither when i configured it using knetworkconfig, i just don't get it why
[09:00] <klerfayt> meeero: maybe this? /usr/share/apps/knetworkconf/
[09:00] <meeero> so this seems to be a bug at all
[09:00] <meeero> is there a config-file?
[09:01] <meeero> and what if i delete/rename that direcotry, will it be recreated?
[09:01] <klerfayt> meeero: oh wait, these are default config files
[09:01] <klerfayt> meeero: don't delete these ,-)
[09:01] <meeero> okay
[09:02] <lanoxx> hi how do i setup an ftp server?.
[09:03] <klerfayt> meeero: application homepage - http://en.opensuse.org/Projects/KNetworkManager
[09:03] <meeero> you know, it's somekind funny that knetwormanager has it's help-page online....
[09:06] <lanoxx> lol
[09:07] <lanoxx> thats like the aol support telling people to download an update if the internet is not working
[09:08] <klerfayt> meeero: try asking it in #suse
[09:08] <meeero> so it's their project?
[09:09] <leo_rockw> doktoreas: install kde-tweak
[09:10] <klerfayt> meeero: http://209.85.129.104/search?q=cache:AEAMpuNNA74J:ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-663078.html+there+are+knetworkmanager+settings+stored&hl=et&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=ee&client=firefox-a
[09:10] <leo_rockw> doktoreas: and adjust the konqueror thing in kcontrol
[09:11] <meeero> thank you very much, that may solve the problem
[09:28] <nitin> when we download packages using apt-get, in which folder are they saved?
[09:29] <SlimeyPete> nivek: /var/cache/apt/archives I think
[09:32] <nitin> hello
[09:32] <SlimeyPete> emr
[09:33] <SlimeyPete> nitin: /var/cache/apt/archives I think
[09:33] <nitin> can they be copied in a pendrive for future use?
[09:34] <lanoxx> can someone point me to a simple introduction on how to set up an ftp server with one user and read write access to a certain directory?
[09:35] <SlimeyPete> nitin: I should think so
[09:35] <SlimeyPete> nitin: they're just .debs, so can be installed manually using dpkg.
[09:36] <nitin> thanks, i got it
[09:38] <nitin> bye for now, SlimeyPete
[10:12] <franek> kubuntu is suck
[10:13] <jussi01> franek: please dont.
[10:13] <franek> jussi01: what?
[10:13] <jussi01> franek: if there is a problem, please ask and we will try to help solve ut
[10:14] <franek> this only my frustration
[10:14] <franek> :)
[10:17] <franek> howto install new k desktop in lastes ver?
[10:18] <kmaxtor> hello
[10:18] <clau30_> franek: KDE3 or KDE4?
[10:18] <jussi01> franek: kde4?
[10:18] <kmaxtor> if i update my kde 3 to 4
[10:18] <kmaxtor> what happen?
[10:18] <franek> i have kde 3
[10:18] <jussi01> kmaxtor: you should be ble to use both
[10:18] <jussi01> !kde4
[10:18] <ubotu> KDE 4.0.2 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.2.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.2.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[10:18] <clau30_> kmaxtor: KDE installes both
[10:19] <kmaxtor> what reprositories available to update my kde 3
[10:19] <clau30_> kmaxtor: Kubuntu installes both :)
[10:19] <jussi01> kmaxtor: please see the link from ubotu
[10:19] <lg188_> hello
[10:19] <franek> yo:)
[10:19] <clau30_> !kde4 kmaxtor
[10:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kde4 kmaxtor - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:19] <jussi01> clau30_: you need the | to separate them
[10:20] <lg188_> i would like to install css but linkux thning help ?
[10:20] <lg188_> thing*
[10:20] <clau30_> jussi01: right, thanks :)
[10:20] <jussi01> :)
[10:20] <clau30_> !kde4 | kmaxtor
[10:20] <ubotu> kmaxtor: KDE 4.0.2 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.2.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.2.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[10:20] <clau30_> lg188_: css?
[10:21] <kmaxtor> what new in kubuntu 8,,,,
[10:22] <jussi01> kmaxtor: please go to #ubuntu+1
[10:22] <jussi01> kmaxtor: and read the topic there
[10:32] <noaXess> is there another pdf editor tool than pdfedit?
[10:33] <jussi01> noaXess: not that i know of
[10:33] <noaXess> pdfedit hangs often if i want save or edit a pdf
[10:33] <noaXess> and on saving
[10:33] <noaXess> now it hangs..
[10:34] <jussi01> noaXess: I just saw a blog which said flpsed can do it....
[10:34] <jussi01> noaXess: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/09/11/editing-pdfs-in-ubuntu/
[10:35] <noaXess> jussi01: ok
[10:35] <noaXess> thx
[10:41] <noaXess> jussi01: but pdfedit has more functions.. hm..
[10:41] <jussi01> noaXess: yes, it does.
[10:41] <fess> hi
[10:42] <jussi01> hi fess
[10:42] <fess> hi speak rus?
[10:42] <jussi01> !ru
[10:42] <ubotu> Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[10:43] <jussi01> morning jono
[10:43] <fess> говорит хто небуть.
[10:43] <fess> ?
[10:43] <jussi01> fess: type: /join #ubuntu-ru
[10:43] <jono> hey jussi
[10:43] <fess> ????
[10:46] <kmaxtor> what do u mean kde alpha edition
[10:46] <kmaxtor> if update my kde 3 to 4 is alpha edition
[10:52] <lg188_> clau30_: counter strike source ...
[10:54] <lg188_> hello ?
[10:55] <jussi01> lg188_: whats up?
[10:56] <lg188_> jussi01: hello  i need somehelp installing couneterstrike source on kubuntu
[10:56] <jussi01> lg188_: I have no idea about that
[10:59] <lg188_> jussi01: np
[11:01] <clau30_> lg188_: sorry, don't know either
[11:01] <lg188_> jussi01: only little bit not good , i would like cs: s on kubuntu i dont now if wine can handle it probably not
[11:01] <lg188_> no problem
[11:01] <jussi01> !appdb | lg188_
[11:01] <ubotu> lg188_: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org
[11:02] <lg188_> ye steam is on linux whooho
[11:03] <clau30_> lg188_: try google
[11:03] <kmaxtor> what i can do to enabled my video card
[11:03] <clau30_> lg188_: one quick search and found http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-5182.html
[11:03] <kmaxtor> my video card is nvidia i can't enable
[11:03] <kmaxtor> please me to solve my problem
[11:03] <jussi01> !ati | kmaxtor
[11:03] <ubotu> kmaxtor: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:05] <lg188_> clau30_ + jussi01 n thnks a lot
[11:05] <jussi01> :)
[11:11] <kmaxtor> how to fix my apt
[11:11] <SlimeyPete> kmaxtor: what's wrong with it?
[11:12] <kmaxtor> error
[11:12] <SlimeyPete> what error?
[11:12] <kmaxtor> i can't update my apt
[11:12] <kmaxtor> locked
[11:13] <SlimeyPete> !aptfix | kmaxtor
[11:13] <ubotu> kmaxtor: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[11:17] <lg188_> bye
[11:17]  * lg188_ neds cookie
[11:17] <lg188_> needs*
[11:23]  * lg188_ cookie give me cookie
[11:23] <lg188_> need to go bye
[11:30] <kmaxtor> please help me to fix my apt database
[11:30] <doktoreas> How can i load a lib that is not in the default path?
[11:30] <doktoreas> i used lddconfig in other dists
[11:30] <kmaxtor> i can't open my apt, how restore my original setting
[11:31] <kmaxtor> the apt can't opened how to restore the original configuration
[11:32] <kmaxtor> hello
[11:35] <Dr_willis> !fixapt
[11:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fixapt - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:35] <Dr_willis> !aptfix
[11:35] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[11:35] <Dr_willis> whats the exact error message anyway?
[11:36] <kmaxtor> the APT database could not be opened
[11:36] <kmaxtor> this may cause by incorrect apt configuration
[11:37] <kmaxtor> how fix to original configuration to update my apt
[11:37] <Dr_willis> i wonder if the sources.list is messed up.
[11:37] <kmaxtor> yes
[11:37] <Dr_willis> there was that sources.list generator web site. but i dont think its still around.
[11:37] <kmaxtor> please help me to fix my apt
[11:38] <Dr_willis> You may want to ask in #ubuntu - theres more people in there. someone may know a better fix.
[11:38] <Dr_willis> where you messing with your sources.list file>?
[11:39] <Dr_willis> http://tuxicity.wordpress.com/sourceslist-for-gutsy-gibbon/ has a sample sources.list (with extra stuff it seems)
[11:41] <francesco_> luca?
[11:41] <francesco_> ci sei?
[11:41] <francesco_> !it
[11:41] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:45] <finek> hi
[11:45] <finek> i tried to edit file by root, but i cant
[11:45] <finek> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60989/
[11:45] <finek> i dunno why
[11:47] <llutz> finek: kdesudo kate /etc/fstab
[11:47] <Dr_willis> or 'sudo nano /path/to/file'
[11:47] <kmaxtor> how to restore my apt
[11:47] <kmaxtor> i can't update my apt is cause error
[11:48] <kmaxtor> or locked
[11:48] <kmaxtor> please help me to resolve my proble
[11:48] <Dr_willis> kmaxtor,  if your sources.list file is bad.  copy that one from the web site i posted..  thats a VERY different problem then if apt has the data base locked.
[11:48] <lukketto> !it
[11:48] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:48] <Dr_willis> database is locked, try this in a !terminal    sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock ;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[11:49] <finek> llutz, ty it works now ;D
[12:00] <jono> hi
[12:00] <jono> anyone who runs the kubuntuforums site?
[12:07] <LimCore> how to see if I use compiz
[12:07] <Dr_willis> compiz --replace
[12:07] <Dr_willis> and see if the windows wiggle when ya move them
[12:07] <Dr_willis> !compiz
[12:07] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[12:08] <kmaxtor> any solution to restore my apt...
[12:08] <Dr_willis> kmaxtor,  yave you tried any of the suggestions so far?
[12:08] <SlimeyPete> !aptfix
[12:08] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[12:08] <kmaxtor> nothing happened
[12:08] <SlimeyPete> did you remove the << and >> ?
[12:08] <Dr_willis> kmaxtor,  you need to be a LITTLE more verbose on what you are doing/tried and how you are doing all this.
[12:09] <Dr_willis> kmaxtor,  and asking in #ubuntu may get you some more help also
[12:09] <kmaxtor> hello need help
[12:10] <kmaxtor> my apt can't opened in order to update
[12:10] <kmaxtor> what i can do to fix my apt
[12:11] <Dr_willis> the phrase 'apt cant opend' isent excatly correct either. What program are you using? apt-get update is giving the errors? adept?
[12:11] <SlimeyPete> kmaxtor: did you remove the << and >>
[12:11] <SlimeyPete> ?
[12:12] <kmaxtor> i mess up the repositories
[12:13] <kmaxtor> the effect is error
[12:13] <Dr_willis> kmaxtor,  you mean to say you Manually altered the /etc/apt/sources.list file?
[12:13] <kmaxtor> yes,
[12:13] <Dr_willis> did you go to that web site i posted earlier that had a example sources.list file?
[12:13] <kmaxtor> i accidentally add the wrong repositories
[12:14] <kmaxtor> http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu/dists/gutsy//etc/apt/sources.list/binary-i386/Packages.gz:' is not known on line 76 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:14] <Dr_willis> kmaxtor,  note the  is not known on line 76  -- edit the file.. remove line 76
[12:14] <_Angelus_> guys
[12:14] <kmaxtor> how
[12:14] <_Angelus_> is there a way to make a hard disc act as a cdrom?
[12:14] <_Angelus_> :/
[12:14] <Dr_willis> how did you edit it in the first place kmaxtor?
[12:15] <Dr_willis> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list      is one way
[12:15] <kmaxtor> the problem i can't opened adept manager
[12:15] <Dr_willis> ^w in nano means use Ctrl-w
[12:15] <Dr_willis> kmaxtor,  dont use adept.. edit it from the terminal
[12:15] <kmaxtor> what im using to edit
[12:16] <Dr_willis> use whatever editor you want.   nano is a ok editor.
[12:16] <kmaxtor> you mean in terminal konsole
[12:17] <kmaxtor> ctrl w
[12:17] <Dr_willis> konsole is a terminal.. yes..
[12:17] <Dr_willis> nano is a text editor you use from the terminal..
[12:17] <Dr_willis> ctrl-w is the command in nano to write a file after you do the changes to the file.. (note the help at the bootom of the window in nano)
[12:18] <kmaxtor> where to find the file in order to edit
[12:20] <Dr_willis> i pasted the location just earlier...
 sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list      is one way
[12:20] <Dr_willis> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:20] <Dr_willis> edit the file... save with ctrl-w
[12:22] <kmaxtor> how to save
[12:22] <kmaxtor> ctrl w is save
[12:22] <Dr_willis> yes.... thats how you save....
[12:22] <Dr_willis> hit the ctrl key and w key at the same time....
[12:23] <Dr_willis> dang it.. wrong editor. :) im thinking another one
[12:23] <Dr_willis>   ^O WriteOut
[12:23] <Dr_willis> who did that.. silly nano guys
[12:23] <Dr_willis> use ctrl-o like the help says
[12:24] <flipstar> hey, nothing against nano :P
[12:24] <Dr_willis> flipstar,  other then the use silly combox. :)
[12:25] <Dr_willis> ^W Where Is     - 'where is' what the heck does that mean? Oh they mean Search! it seems.. :)
[12:25] <Dr_willis> guess ctrl s was taken. :)
[12:25] <kmaxtor> eureka i fix now
[12:25] <Dr_willis> ^O      (F3)            Write the current file to disk
[12:25] <kmaxtor> i fix the apt manager
[12:26] <Dr_willis> makes ya wonder why they dont show the F keys in the help
[12:26] <kmaxtor> i opened now apt manager
[12:27] <kmaxtor> i owed you a lot dr.willis
[12:27] <kmaxtor> how i can paid you...
[12:27] <kmaxtor> hehehehe
[12:27] <Dr_willis> spend the $$ on a linux book or 2. :)
[12:28] <Dr_willis> Using the Bash Shell by Orieally - is worth buying. :)
[12:34] <area51> hello me
[12:35] <area51> if any available live IP to broadcast my video?
[12:35] <area51> where i can find a free live IP?
[12:36] <area51> please help me to find a free live IP?
[12:36] <myrtille> good day :)
[12:37] <Dr_willis> area51,  thats making 100% no sence at all.
[12:37] <Dr_willis> but thats normal for this channel today so far. :)
[12:38] <myrtille> i'd like kopete to log and save every chat by default
[12:38] <myrtille> is this possible?
[12:38] <venik> Can anyone tell me how to get SOUND NOTIFICATIONS in Pidgin?
[12:39] <venik> I have for Sound Method: command artsplay% but it does nothing
[12:43] <Dr_willis> hmmm
[12:44] <Dr_willis> It works fine here.. I get a ba-beep every time someone chats in here
[12:44] <stevenroose> where do i need to be for a question?
[12:44] <stevenroose> i wanna know if it is possible to chech your boot log in a file
[12:45] <Dr_willis> stevenroose,   thers a lot of info stored by dmesg. but Not sure about all the initial  starting services messages...
[12:45] <venik> I got it.  I had to do a HORRIBLE thing-- read the manual!
[12:45] <Dr_willis> stevenroose,  #ubuntu will   perhaps have some better info.
[12:45] <Dr_willis> venik,  wow. it just worked fine here. :) no changes
[12:45] <venik> the correct command was aplay %, not the default: artsplay %
[12:45] <stevenroose> ok ty!
[12:46] <venik> I like Pidgin now.
[12:46] <Dr_willis> for irc..i think i will stick with xchat
[12:51] <wietse> could anyone tell me the exact location of the 'Trash' bin?
[12:53] <_Angelus_> guys
[12:53] <_Angelus_> anybody had problems burning the hardy alternate cd?
[12:53] <_Angelus_> ;/
[12:54] <_Angelus_> i have just throwed 5cds in the garbage
[12:54] <_Angelus_> i dunno if its hardy , or the writer :/
[12:56] <area51> how to enable my nvidia drivers
[12:59] <xik> I want to delete all "\" signs in a file, what is the command for sed there?
[13:01] <azuki> quicky: anyone know (before I reinstall it) how to add the display-icon manually ... OR an alternative way to change resolution/Herz
[13:01] <xik> ah, tr
[13:03] <azuki> i'll just re-install..
[13:03] <xik> VERY NICE :)  --->   cat file | tr -d \\ > new_file
[13:03] <xik> command line tools are great
[13:15] <azuki> deinstalling the kubuntu-libs..... (only 452mb of the installed 600+ tho:/)
[13:15] <azuki> then re-installing KDE and hoping the display-icon will be there
[13:16] <Jucato> (the package was "kde-guidance" probably)
[13:16] <azuki> can I leave it?
 quicky: anyone know (before I reinstall it) how to add the display-icon manually ... OR an alternative way to change resolution/Herz <--- kde-guidance (if I understand you correctly)
[13:17] <azuki> ah.. oh.. yea.. I was looking at 50hz... my eyes hurt... so I was iun a hurry :(
[13:18] <azuki> damn ... I allready de-installed it..
[13:18] <azuki> reinstalling tho ..
[13:18] <azuki> thnx!
[13:27] <azuki> do I need to reinstall compiz?
[13:27] <Jucato> only if you want to
[13:28] <azuki> it should work
[13:33] <azuki> ahhh.. yessss...
[13:35] <azuki> so if I get it right, the same compiz installed on Gnome should work (and migrate) to the KDE?.. or .... coz the settings thing is there, but it doesn't work
[13:45] <gr8linux> Hi
[13:46] <azuki> hi
[13:47] <azuki> kubuntu seems to vaguely screw up stuff.. no more mounting possible and Compiz don't work....
[13:47] <gr8linux> I install my laptop winmodem on Kubuntu
[13:47] <gr8linux> but I have problem with Konqueror
[13:47] <gr8linux> I can't browse any thing
[13:48] <gr8linux> Any idea
[13:49] <azuki> what does it say?... 404 ?
[13:49] <gr8linux> azuki:
[13:49] <gr8linux> An error occurred while loading http://yahoo.com:
[13:49] <gr8linux> Could not connect to host http://yahoo.com/.
[13:50] <gr8linux> anyone seen this before?
[13:51] <gr8linux> I have another PC with the same Kubuntu version 7.10 64bit but it's work fine
[13:52] <gr8linux> The kernel is ok because I could wget yahoo.com
[13:54] <gr8linux> Any IDEA?
[13:54] <azuki> I don't know sorry :(*
[13:54] <hydrogen> isn't compiz not working a good thing?
[13:55] <hydrogen> guaranteed to make you more productive
[13:55] <gr8linux> :))
[13:55] <azuki> hydrogen: that's true, I just like the visual-orgasmic...
[13:56] <gr8linux> I am going for firefox
[13:57] <azuki> I like the desktop changing
[13:58] <gr8linux> tanx guy
[14:04] <junior> hiiiiii
[14:04] <junior> alguém do brasilw
[14:04] <jussi01> !br | junior
[14:04] <ubotu> junior: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[14:05] <junior> #ubuntu-br
[14:05] <junior> eu nao sei usar isso.
[14:05] <jussi01> junior: type: /join #ubuntu-br
[14:06] <junior> thanks
[14:06] <jussi01> :)
[14:06] <junior> can't i speak in english:
[14:06] <jussi01> junior: yes you can
[14:07] <jussi01> junior: just no portuguese in here :)
[14:07] <junior> humm
[14:07] <junior> ok
[14:07] <jussi01> junior: so do you have a question we can help with?
[14:07] <junior> no
[14:08] <junior> hehhee i know to use linux...
[14:08] <junior> i don't know use Irc
[14:08] <junior> =P
[14:08] <jussi01> junior: This is the Kubuntu support channel. If you are just wishing to chat, please use #kubuntu-offtopic :)
[14:09] <junior> ok..
[14:09] <junior> are u admin>
[14:10] <neville_> For once, everything is up to date
[14:10] <neville_> It's a good feeling :P
[14:10] <jussi01> :)
[14:10] <junior> bye...
[14:11] <junior> =)
[14:13] <azuki> yay!... kDE is a bit faster then Gnome
[14:13] <azuki> rock -on!
[14:14] <TeslaTony> I've heard that KDE is faster, but a little less stable. Any truth to that?
[14:14] <TeslaTony> Or does it depend on the application?
[14:14] <Jucato> application, setup, situation, version, etc...
[14:15] <muesli> TeslaTony: in general neither gnome nor kde feel really unstable
[14:15] <muesli> TeslaTony: i guess it's just down to a matter of personal taste
[14:16] <azuki> I thought that gnome was a little unstable too.. only when running compiz tho
[14:16] <azuki> maybe it's compiz :)
[14:16] <jhutchins_wk> TeslaTony: A lot of work has gone into cleaning up KDE recently.
[14:17] <jhutchins_wk> TeslaTony: It has a big advantage in it's use of shared code and functions.
[14:17] <azuki> yet with KDE there is a whole lot more optionality built-in
[14:18] <jhutchins_wk> compiz is definitely unstable
[14:19] <TeslaTony> When I first installed Linux on here I tested both Kubuntu and Ubuntu. I found Kubuntu really unstable and switched to ubuntu, but I've since installed kubuntu-desktop so I can switch between the two
[14:19] <TeslaTony> I'm not seeing the same instabilities any more
[14:20] <Jucato> it's kinda unfair to conclude that KDE is unstable based on the experience in one distro though
[14:20] <TeslaTony> I'd heard the instability issue from someone else, too
[14:21] <azuki> "
[14:21] <azuki> (02:51:07 PM) gr8linux: I have another PC with the same Kubuntu version 7.10 64"
[14:21] <azuki> woeps
[14:22] <azuki> "hal-storage-fixed-mount refused uid 1000"
[14:25] <azuki> any sollutions for mounting?
[14:26] <jussio1> azuki: I havent time to answer it now, but I suggest you google that one, Its quite a common error
[14:26] <Expecto> I have a favor to ask.  Could someone download the latest ndiswrapper tar from sourceforge and email it to themattrix@cox.net?  I'm behind a firewall that won't allow me to access sourceforge.
[14:26] <flipstar> azuki: just add add uid=1000,gid=1000 to the mount options
[14:27] <jhutchins_wk> TeslaTony: What do you mean by instability?
[14:29] <TeslaTony> jhutchins_wk: I was getting a lot of system and program crashes
[14:29] <azuki> flipstar: where can I do that?.. I don't use commandline moutns..
[14:29] <flipstar> in fstab
[14:31] <jhutchins_wk> TeslaTony: Interesting.  I've been running KDE since... 2003?  Haven't had that kind of trouble.  Been running kubuntu since drake or eft.
[14:31] <azuki> fstab?
[14:31] <jhutchins_wk> TeslaTony: Only thing I've had trouble with was detecting hardware in feisty.
[14:32] <jussi01> azuki: kdesu kate /etc/fstab
[14:32] <jussi01> do that in terminal
[14:33] <azuki> where should I add it?
[14:33] <TeslaTony> jhutchins_wk: Like I said, I'm not having the same issues I was having, although one friend pointed out that gutsy had a lot of issues when it was first released, and kubuntu may have just taken the brunt of it on my system, moreso than Gnome was
[14:34] <flipstar> Jussi maybe you should add an factiod then :)
[14:34] <azuki> in the fstab.. does the location matter?
[14:34] <jussi01> azuki: yes, at the end of the line for mounting that drove
[14:34] <jussi01> drive*
[14:35] <azuki> ah crap.. so how do I decide... /dev/hd0 (can I make it /dev/bla or does it matter?
[14:36] <flipstar>  /dev/blah should be your drive that you want to mount..find out by typing "sudo fstab -l" in a terminal
[14:36] <jhutchins_wk> TeslaTony: Well, if you were running compiz, that was the problem.
[14:37] <TeslaTony> Funny thing, that...I wasn't
[14:37] <TeslaTony> Fresh install
[14:38] <TeslaTony> Part of the problem may have been I was using a USB wifi card and a motherboard that doesn't have linux support
[14:38] <jhutchins_wk> azuki: The system will try to mount whichever device you specify.  If you want a particular partition to mount, you have to specify that partition.  _where_ it mounts is something you can decide at will, but it must be an existing directory in the filesystem tree.
[14:38] <azuki> in the /dev dir right?
[14:39] <flipstar> in /dev are the devices - right
[14:40] <fat-head> does anyone know of any netscape 9.0.0.6 .deb ???
[14:40] <jhutchins_wk> azuki: If you mount a partition to a location that has data, like somewhere in /dev, you will see the mounted partition instead of that data.
[14:40] <jhutchins_wk> azuki: Replacing directories in /dev with arbitrary mounts would be a bad idea.
[14:40] <jhutchins_wk> azuki: Do you understand what the /dev tree is?
[14:40] <flipstar> fat-head: getdeb.net maybe
[14:40] <fat-head> k
[14:40] <azuki> not really..
[14:40] <jhutchins_wk> azuki: Do you know why /mount and /media exist and what's in them?
[14:41] <Eruaran> hello
[14:41] <Eruaran> Is anyone here using anon-proxy ?
[14:41] <azuki> jhutchins_wk: I thought that media was all existing hardware, and mounting includes them into the active system
[14:41] <flipstar> Eruaran: im using tor
[14:42] <Eruaran> flipstar: hows that working ?
[14:42] <fat-head> nope getdeb.net doesnt have a .deb for NETscape
[14:42] <jhutchins_wk> azuki: No, media is a place where the system can automatically mount attached devices.
[14:42] <fat-head> argh !
[14:42] <flipstar> !tor > Eruaran
[14:42] <Eruaran> thx
[14:42] <jhutchins_wk> azuki: /dev is a "pseudo" filesystem, not a real filesystem, it contains "nodes" which represent the hardware on the system.
[14:42] <azuki> yea..
[14:42] <ipluss> hi guys, i want know how to build kernel source tree so i can study write driver ?
[14:43] <azuki> that's what I figured..
[14:44] <azuki> in fstab : /dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto,exec 0       0
[14:44] <ipluss> help me
[14:44] <ipluss> thank you]
[14:44] <azuki> so it takes from the filesystem (/dev) to mount in the media (/media)
[14:44] <flipstar> !kernel > ipluss
[14:45] <azuki> but how do I get to know which existing unmounted drive is which in the /dev
[14:45] <flipstar> azuki: by "sudo fstab -l" in terminal or systemsetting>advanced>drives
[14:46] <flipstar> err "sudo fdisk -l" soory
[14:46] <azuki> right.. ;) it didn't work
[14:47] <flipstar> this shows you every harddisc on your computer
[14:47] <jhutchins_wk> azuki: http://tldp.org/LDP/sag/
[14:47] <flipstar> you can see the mounted by typing mount
[14:47] <flipstar> (in a terminal)
[14:48] <azuki> ok I am figuring out what to type in the fstab now..
[14:49] <jhutchins_wk> /mnt is the traditional mount point for temporary devices that are mounted manually.
[14:49] <azuki>  and how do I activate it :?... just saving?
[14:49] <azuki> and accessing?
[14:49] <azuki> one last the thing: the mountPOINT could be anything... I devide?
[14:49] <azuki> decide?
[14:49] <flipstar> yes..but it must exists
[14:50] <jhutchins_wk> azuki: Entries in fstab allow you to mount something by just identifying it, you don't need the full format with filesystem type, mount point, and options.  Once it's in fstab, you can just use mount /dev/hda1 or mount /media/music (use either the device or the mount point).
[14:50] <ipluss> flipstar: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile
[14:50] <ipluss> flipstar: have you write some driver under 2.6.X kernel
[14:51] <ipluss> flipstar: can you teach me how to start
[14:51] <jhutchins_wk> azuki: If you included the "auto" option, then the device will mount at boot time or if you do sudo mount -a.
[14:51] <flipstar> this site doesnt help ?
[14:51] <azuki> this is hard for me
[14:51] <flipstar> ipluss: i never compiled my own kernel since im happy with the default
[14:52] <lovre> can i somehow make myself a superuser in current terminal session?
[14:52] <lovre> i tried su, it doesnt accept my password.,
[14:52] <azuki> when I fdisk -l ot... I still don't find the link... it gives me all /dev's locations... but not the associated media location... so the mountpoint would be ?
[14:53] <flipstar> lovre: with sudo -s or sudo -i
[14:53] <azuki> oh wait..
[14:53] <azuki> YEA.. it's still kinda random.. (3 disks to mount) ..
[14:54] <michael_> lovre - you mean like sudo -i
[14:54] <lovre> flipstar: ill try it, than
[14:54] <lovre> thanx
[14:54] <flipstar> azuki: since the drive is already monted you just have to find the entry in the fstab
[14:54] <screamfd> Hello together I'm new in the linux using
[14:54] <azuki> I added it as BLA mountpoint..
[14:54] <azuki> it worked
[14:55] <azuki> oh ... it doesnt..
[14:55] <azuki> in one drive it started "loading".. but no progress.. others still the same prob..
[14:56] <azuki> /dev/sda3       /media/bla3	auto	rw,user,noauto,exec 0       0
[14:56] <azuki> did it like that
[14:56] <flipstar> you need a space between that
[14:56] <azuki> between whaT?.
[14:57] <flipstar> like  /dev/sda3       /media/bla3 autorw,user,noauto,exec,uid=1000,gid=1000 0       0
[14:57] <screamfd> who is a ubuntu 7.10 user?
[14:57] <flipstar> and /media/bla3 have to exists
[14:57] <jussi01> screamfd: ubuntu or kubuntu?
[14:57] <screamfd> ubuntu
[14:58] <jussi01> screamfd: ask in #ubuntu
[14:58] <screamfd> thx
[14:58] <azuki> what do you mean by /media/bla has to exist.. the drive isn't there yet... it's shows up there AFTER the mount right?
[14:59] <SlimeyPete> under Linux, you mount drives into directories.
[14:59] <flipstar> no..you have to create a dir called bla3 in /media.. "sudo mkdir /media/bla3"
[14:59] <jussi01> azuki: the dir has to exist before you can mount the drive
[14:59] <cpk1> azuki: the /dev/ is the actual hard drive. to get it so you can actually use the data there you need to connect a directory with the hard drive
[15:00] <cpk1> does that make it easier to understand?
[15:01] <azuki> it says loading directory
[15:02] <azuki> so everytime I access the drive and mount stuff the FSTAB will be re-accessed?.. or is it a boot?
[15:03] <flipstar> entrys in fstab will be mounted at boot
[15:03] <azuki> ah.. so I have to restart
[15:03] <flipstar> no..not nessesary
[15:05] <azuki> hoe not to?
[15:05] <jussi01> azuki: sudo mount -a
[15:05] <flipstar> just drop a sudo mount -a in terminal
[15:06] <azuki> just that?
[15:06] <jussi01> yep
[15:06] <azuki> didn't change anythin
[15:07] <azuki> I got one drive to work tho.. the old windows drive.. the one drive I didn't need :)
[15:07] <jussi01> hehe
[15:08] <azuki> I still get the uid error..
[15:08] <flipstar> did you added the uid=1000,gid=1000 thing ?
[15:08] <azuki> yes
[15:09] <azuki> now I gots: /dev/sda1       /media/drive1	auto	rw,user,noauto,exec,uid=1000,gid=10000	0       0
[15:09] <azuki> /dev/sda2       /media/drive2	auto	rw,user,noauto,exec,uid=1000,gid=10000	0       0
[15:09] <azuki> /dev/sda3       /media/drive3	auto	rw,user,noauto,exec,uid=1000,gid=10000	0       0
[15:09] <jussi01> azuki: please use pastebin next time :)
[15:09] <flipstar> a zero too much
[15:09] <jussi01> !paste > azuki
[15:11] <azuki> nope.. still..
[15:11] <azuki> pastebin??
[15:11] <flipstar> wait a sec
[15:12] <azuki> now it's like /dev/sda1       /media/drive1	auto	rw,user,noauto,exec,uid=1000,gid=10000       0
[15:12] <flipstar> azuki: make it like http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/61016/
[15:13] <flipstar> see the spaces there & the amount of zeros
[15:15] <azuki> it says unknown filetype 'gid=1000'
[15:15] <azuki> when I do the mount -a
[15:15] <azuki> ah
[15:15] <azuki> one 0
[15:15] <azuki> should be 10000
[15:15] <azuki> right?
[15:16] <azuki> hmm
[15:16] <flipstar> which filesystem type are the drives ?
[15:17] <e3rd> Witam ;]
[15:17] <azuki> fat32 and ext2
[15:18] <algyz> !pl | e3rd
[15:18] <ubotu> e3rd: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[15:18] <algyz> !pl
[15:18] <flipstar> azuki: drive 1 fat the rest ext2 ?
[15:18] <algyz> nothing :|
[15:19] <azuki> sda1 = fat32LBA... sda2 linux (suppose that's ext2) and sd3 is extended
[15:19] <azuki> I am seeing a sdb1 ntfs also.. dunno what that is
[15:20] <azuki> and another fat32 (sdc1)
[15:21] <azuki> holy cow..
[15:21] <azuki> I got it ALL wrong
[15:21] <azuki> should mount somethign else :)
[15:21] <algyz> ubotu don't sleep darling ;)
[15:22] <flipstar> azuki: then use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/61019/ and create the needed dirs
[15:23] <azuki> I now get permission denied
[15:25] <azuki> it says loading directory.. I thinks it's ok.. but it does say warning no final newline
[15:26] <flipstar> then make one..
[15:26] <azuki> right.. that workd ;)
[15:27] <azuki> that's it for now :).. really alot of thanks for the lesson
[15:28] <jhutchins_wk> azuki: Did you have a look at that URL I sent you?
[15:28] <azuki> which one
[15:29] <azuki> the big html /sag?
[15:33] <azuki> blergh.. now it says mountpoint fat32 doesn't exist :/
[15:34] <flipstar> then make one..
[15:34] <SlimeyPete> what're you typing, exactly?
[15:34] <dorkface> Hi all.  I'm trying to produce ascii characters for a project, but the way I am familiar with to make the characters, pressing alt+ 3 numbers, doesn't seem to work.  Any suggestions?
[15:35] <azuki> /dev/sdc1 fat32 /media/sdc1 autorw,user,noauto,exec,uid=1000,gid=1000 0      0
[15:36] <SlimeyPete> -t fat32
[15:37] <SlimeyPete> oh wait
[15:37] <SlimeyPete> sorry
[15:37] <SlimeyPete> ignore me ;)
[15:37] <SlimeyPete> hmm
[15:38] <SlimeyPete> you have /media/sdc1 and fat32 round the wrong way
[15:38] <SlimeyPete> swap them
[15:38] <SlimeyPete> it's <device> <mountpoint> <fstype> <options> 0 0
[15:38] <flipstar> oops
[15:39] <darx> hi.. firefox is not honoring the font settings I made in system settings.. what can I do?
[15:39] <azuki> loading dirs again.. thnx :)
[15:40] <darx> I set the font size to 9 pt but firefox still displays the UI fonts as 12 pt. whats up with that? it used to work under gnome.. can some one confirm?
[15:40] <darx> i'm on hardy kubuntu
[15:42] <azuki> I suppose this loading dirs is a onetime thing.. I hope..
[15:42] <azuki> takes a long time
[15:42] <vijay> does kde4 hardy beta include amarok??? wht is the default player?
[15:42] <darx> vijay: yup
[15:43] <darx> it is the default as well
[15:44] <jhutchins_wk> darx: Hard support in #ubuntu+1
[15:44] <vijay> i just installed kde4 desktop on my gnome ubuntu b y "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-kde4-desktop" ; but i has a music player called juk instead of amarok
[15:44] <jhutchins_wk> darx: When you say the UI fonts, Presume the ones for the menue and such?
[15:44] <Odd-rationale> vijay: JuK was in the kubuntu-kde4 livecd. No amarok
[15:45] <jhutchins_wk> vijay: Not everything has been ported to work with kde4.
[15:46] <vijay> ohhh k , so amarok is not yet ported to qt4/kde4  ?
[15:46] <donsdw> How do I add one file to another?  Not "cat f1 f2 > f3".  I do not want to have to rename f3 to f2.
[15:46] <Odd-rationale> vijay: That will come with amarok 2
[15:48] <vijay> @Odd-rationale           any idea when itis gonna come out
[15:49] <Odd-rationale> vijay: As far as i know, there is no release date. So it will be "when their done."
[15:50] <flipstar> donsdw: guess you can do this with tee
[15:50] <vijay> ohhhh k ; thanx alot for the info
[15:54] <donsdw> Thanks Flipstar.  I found out cat file1 >> file2 works.
[16:01] <darx> jutchins_wk: yup for the menus and such.. not the document.
[16:01] <darx> the document fonts can be adjusted from within firefox.
[16:04] <yao_ziyuan> i call for all kubuntu users to protest kubuntu 8.04 beta's ugly wallpaper and style/window decoration!
[16:05] <jhutchins_wk> darx: I think you set that with the window manager.
[16:05] <flipstar> yao_ziyuan: where can i sign ? :)
[16:06] <romunov_> what app do you guys use to work with videos?
[16:06] <yao_ziyuan> flipstar: ... i don't have one
[16:06] <romunov_> i've just recorded a cricket and i need to reduce the quality
[16:06] <duke__> hello world
[16:07] <jussi01> hey duke__
[16:07] <flipstar> romunov_: mencoder is the ultimative video en/decoder
[16:08] <cpk1> mencoder will also drown you in man pages =\
[16:08] <duke__> i would like to have some advice about which distro would be the best to start with linux, I want to learn how it works, so far I have tried ubuntu and kubuntu for a couple of days
[16:08] <cpk1> duke__: if you want to learn how linux works then go with something that does very little for you =)
[16:09] <cpk1> it will be a rough couple days but you come out better for it
[16:09] <jussi01> duke__: its a matter of trying them all, of course we beleive Kubuntu is the best, but we are biased
[16:09] <jussi01> duke__: perhaps ask in ##linux ?
[16:10] <duke__> kubuntu is kinda cute but i had some problems with it, i couldn<t oconfigure my printer, and ubuntu would not recognize my screen and everytime i boot it was in 640x480...
[16:10] <cpk1> you probably needed to install your video drivers
[16:11] <cpk1> and printers can be hit and miss
[16:11] <duke__> i tried but it was not working
[16:12] <duke__> anyway i<m thinking about trying fedora, what do you think ?
[16:12] <matt1728> fedora is awesome
[16:13] <duke__> it uses gnome right ?
[16:13] <matt1728> but you have to install repos for everything or do source
[16:13] <matt1728> yepp
[16:13] <cpk1> no idea, never used it.  But like I said if you really want to learn a lot and can afford to basically be unable to use your computer go with a less user friendly distro, like slackware =P
[16:13] <matt1728> i used fedora for a while
[16:14] <flipstar> cpk1: just google for linux distri chooser
[16:14] <alexbobp> In the network manager, I set eth4 (my wired network connection) from unmanaged to dhcp.  Since then, every 15 minutes or so my dns capabilities stop working, and I can fix it temporarily by either restarting the network connection (sudo ifconfig eth4 down, up) or by going into the network settings and removing the dns server.
[16:14] <duke__> well i can afford that because i built a computer just for that, i have another vista computer
[16:14] <alexbobp> Does anybody know of a solution to this?
[16:14] <azuki> it's still saying "loading dir"
[16:15] <cpk1> duke__: well then if it wont hurt your productivity I say why not go for it that way after the frustration of nothing working and having to fight through it you should be very comfortable with cli and linux in general
[16:15] <_Shade_> hi there
[16:16] <_Angelus_> GUYS
[16:16] <_Angelus_> IM DESPARED
[16:16] <_Angelus_> im gonna turn into an emo if no one helps me :/
[16:16] <_Angelus_> lol
[16:16] <duke__> yes thats a good idea cpk1
[16:17] <cpk1> duke__: and without a knowledgeable linux friend close at hand it has the possibility of being very difficult
[16:17] <_Angelus_> i wasted 5cds to try copying kubuntu beta
[16:18] <_Angelus_> its always failing
[16:18] <_Angelus_> and i really want it
[16:18] <_Angelus_> cause installing it from windows xp worked
[16:18] <duke__> I have a friend who is pretty good with linux
[16:18] <duke__> i<m looking at screenshots of slackware, it looks like kubuntu
[16:19] <cpk1> _Angelus_: 1. why not wait until next month when 8.04 is released? and 2. the burn process fails?
[16:19] <flipstar> _Angelus_: you burning with k3b? so whats the error message ?
[16:19] <cpk1> duke__: probably because it uses kde
[16:19] <_Angelus_> i tried k3b , nero linux, and tried burning it from XP
[16:19] <duke__> ok
[16:19] <_Angelus_> everything is failing :s
[16:19] <_Angelus_> i tried both desktop, and alternate
[16:19] <flipstar> _Angelus_: did you checked the md5 ?
[16:19] <_Angelus_> yeah
[16:19] <_Angelus_> md5sum is good
[16:20] <flipstar> does your cd burner work ?
[16:20] <_Angelus_> yeah
[16:20] <_Angelus_> i burn many ps2 games and work
[16:20] <duke__> and what is the difference between the live cd version (700mb) and the non live version (4 gb)
[16:20] <_Angelus_> i tought it was because i was using scretchless cds. but when i changed it didnt work
[16:20] <_Angelus_> duke__:  there are 3 versions , live cd , alternate cd , and dvd version which has both inside
[16:20] <_Shade_> how do i display images as message content in kmail?
[16:21] <cpk1> _Angelus_: you try reducing the burn speed?
[16:22] <_Angelus_> nope
[16:22] <_Angelus_> i didnt try that :/
[16:22] <duke__> so if i understand , the live cd lets you try it before installing it by running it from the cd and the alternate version does not , is that it ?
[16:22] <_Angelus_> no duke__
[16:22] <flipstar> _Angelus_: why dont you using cd+rw's ?
[16:22] <_Angelus_> the alternate has expert install and things like that
[16:22] <_Angelus_> because i dont afford one flipstar LOL
[16:22] <cpk1> flipstar: cd rw typically dont work as boot cds anyways
[16:23] <flipstar> here they do
[16:23] <_Angelus_> cpk1: reducing the speed could work?
[16:23] <flipstar> _Angelus_: whats the error message while burning ?
[16:23] <_Angelus_> flipstar:  i forgot :s
[16:23] <artfullylost> Why do .iso files have to take so long to download.... :'(
[16:23] <cpk1> _Angelus_: its possible, you are being very vague about the failure though
[16:23] <cpk1> _Angelus_: try burning at 2x
[16:23] <_Angelus_> well
[16:24] <_Angelus_> i burned it at 48x
[16:27] <_Angelus_> one problem :/
[16:27] <_Angelus_> i deleted the iso's
[16:27] <_Angelus_> cause i got angry :/
[16:27] <flipstar> !installation | _Angelus_
[16:28] <ubotu> _Angelus_: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[16:28] <flipstar> you dont need a cd nessessary
[16:28] <_Angelus_> yeah but i deleted the godamn iso's
[16:28] <_Angelus_> cause i was angry :/
[16:28] <_Angelus_> lol
[16:29] <algyz> _Angelus_:  no more in trash?
[16:29] <_Angelus_> yeah
[16:29] <_Angelus_> i emptied trash
[16:30] <duke__> restore ^
[16:30] <_Angelus_> cause i didnt want to continue waste cds :/
[16:30] <duke__> ?
[16:30] <_Angelus_> restore? :o
[16:30] <flipstar> !undelete
[16:30] <ubotu> Some tools to recover lost data are listed and explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery - Remember that it's tricky to recover deleted files from your journalled !filesystem, and you should keep !backups of important data.
[16:30] <cpk1> psh who uses the trash can anyways?
[16:30] <duke__> !dontgetangry
[16:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dontgetangry - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:30] <cpk1> I only use shift delete =)
[16:31] <cpk1> isnt recovering deleted data near impossible?
[16:31] <flipstar> nope
[16:31] <cpk1> you have to figure out the correct node it was on and what not right?
[16:31] <flipstar> its just very, very, very very very time expansive
[16:32] <flipstar> you can download it 20x times with a 56k in this time i guess
[16:35] <_Angelus_> depends on what filesystem cpk1
[16:35] <artfullylost> So.... honestly, what would be a better install for a noob? Kubuntu, or ubuntu?
[16:35] <_Angelus_> on reiserfs , its just "reiserfstune --rebuild-tree -S /dev/xxx"
[16:36] <_Angelus_> artfullylost:  KuBunTu xD
[16:36] <flipstar> yes would not only rebuild the iso ..
[16:36] <Odd-rationale> artfullylost: a noob would not know the difference
[16:36] <artfullylost> Well, KDE vs. Gnome, primarily.
[16:37] <artfullylost> But which environment is friendlier to someone who has next to no linux knowledge?
[16:37] <_Angelus_> KDE
[16:37] <Karti> Hi all, any advice on what application to use for organising your photos etc Many thanks
[16:37] <flipstar> the guys in the gnome channel would probably say GNOME ..
[16:37] <flipstar> your decision
[16:37] <Odd-rationale> Karti: digikam?
[16:37] <duke__> i<m a noob and i just tried both and i think that Kubuntu looks friendlier and is a little easier to use
[16:38] <_Angelus_> KDE resembles more windows
[16:38] <emonkey> artfullylost, what's better strawberry or banane?
[16:38] <_Angelus_> you just have a K instead of the start button
[16:38] <artfullylost> Bananas by far.
[16:38] <_Angelus_> which looks like the vista button
[16:38] <flipstar> Strawberry's are much sweeter :)
[16:38] <duke__> yes exactly angelus, thats what i think too
[16:38] <artfullylost> duke__ : I've been using Gnome for a while, but my buddy wants a look at the easier of the two, and I figure I might as well look as well. :)
[16:38] <emonkey> artfullylost, but I loke strawberry more .. so you see it's a question of taste ... same thing with KDE and Gnome
[16:38] <emonkey> *like
[16:39] <Karti> Odd-rationale: Many thanks.....looks quite good
[16:39] <Odd-rationale> But the nice about kde is it does not *have* to look like windows...
[16:39] <artfullylost> Well, Windows and Linux is a version of taste. It all is, but can someone present the valid pros and cons?
[16:39] <duke__> kubuntu is prettier and feels more like windows than ubuntu
[16:40] <_Angelus_> of course
[16:40] <artfullylost> I never liked earth tones.
[16:40] <_Angelus_> KDE is the sexiest desktop
[16:40] <duke__> imo
[16:40] <Pici> !best
[16:40] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, join #ubuntu-bots and ask there.
[16:41] <crashhandler> any chinese here..i want to ask about input method using skim..
[16:42] <jussi01> !cn | crashhandler
[16:42] <ubotu> crashhandler: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[16:42] <romunov_> i was always wondering how the chinese/japanese manage to type in their native language
[16:42] <romunov_> what combination of keys they use to code all the signs
[16:43] <crashhandler> sorry i cant read or write chinese as them...i am a new learner who starts learn chinese about 2 weeks..lol
[16:43] <crashhandler> ooo
[16:44] <crashhandler> romunov_ , basically you just type the pronounciation and the chinese character will automatically there
[16:48] <_Angelus_> yeyyyyyy
[16:48] <_Angelus_> i still have the alternate iso on my winxp partition!
[16:48] <_Angelus_> guys
[16:49] <_Angelus_> would there be anything to make my 6GB hard drive act as a cdrom to install hardy?!
[16:49] <duke__> make a image drive
[16:50] <ubuntu> hi, flipstar..it's me again and ths time i tried to install kde4-core but oops i did it again..and xserver didn't start :D
[16:50] <_Angelus_> duke__:  how do i do that?
[16:50] <duke__> youre in windows right ^
[16:50] <_Angelus_> no duke__ :/
[16:50] <ubuntu> by the way i'm ahmos
[16:51] <matt1728> is there anyway to make the kmenu transparent ?
[16:51] <duke__> oh .... i know how to do that in windows but not in linux
[16:52] <matt1728> hmm
[16:52] <matt1728> i dont think thatll help though
[16:52] <matt1728> lol
[16:53] <flipstar> ubuntu/ahmos whats the error message when starting X ?
[16:53] <duke__> but usually burning software have an option to mount an image drive or something like that and it acts as a cd and you can read an iso as if it was a regular cd
[16:53] <ubuntu> nothing just a blinking cursor
[16:55] <yago> does anyone install kubuntu 8. by cd-rom?
[16:57] <jorge_> yes
[16:58] <ubuntu> any ideas flipstar
[16:58] <jorge_> could somebody show me how to install a driver(wireless)
[16:59] <flipstar> ubuntu maybe an driver issue..you could try to switch to an tty and then startx
[16:59] <alexbobp> jorge_: first of all, are you needing to use ndiswrapper?
[16:59] <jorge_> ok
[16:59] <ubuntu> i tried from recovery mode but nothing
[16:59] <jorge_> it came with the distro or i have to download it
[17:00] <flipstar> ubuntu hm you did nothing than installing kde4-core ?
[17:00] <flipstar> not unintalling anything or so ?
[17:01] <ubuntu> no only kde4-core and it was about 100 MB
[17:01] <jorge_> alexbob, the ndiswrapper, came with the distro or i have to download it
[17:01] <JoshOvki> jorge_: best to download it, get the latest version then
[17:02] <jorge_> ok, ill do it
[17:02] <jussi01> !ndiswrapper
[17:02] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[17:05] <flipstar> ubuntu you probably running a livecd now ?
[17:07] <jorge_> alexbob, r u still there?
[17:07] <flipstar> ubuntu maybe you can chroot into the installation and check if is something is wrong..
[17:07] <bin4ry> hi together
[17:08] <bin4ry> how can i make thunderbird automaticaly deleting my spam mails
[17:08] <bin4ry> ?
[17:08] <francesco_> !it
[17:08] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[17:09] <ubuntu> how flipstar
[17:10] <flipstar> maybe you can google it..
[17:11] <ubuntu> that's what i'm doing now
[17:11] <ubuntu> thank you very much you helped me alot
[17:13] <jorge_> alguien me puede explicar como ejecutar ndiswrapper
[17:13] <joseph> !es | jorge_
[17:14] <ubotu> jorge_: En este canal, solamente hablamos ingles. Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[17:14] <jorge_> sorry, i forgot it
[17:14] <joseph> no problemo
[17:14] <jorge_> somebody could tell me how to use ndiswrapper
[17:14] <jussi01> jorge_: look at the link from ubotu earlier
[17:14] <jorge_> ok
[17:14] <azuki> hi... I editted the FSTAB to include some unmounted drives, yet it keeps saying : "loading dir"... what could be the problem?
[17:15] <jussi01> !ndiswrapper > jorge_
[17:19] <azuki> just can't mount :(...
[17:22] <vit> msn
[17:23] <skarpetka> wow..
[17:23] <jorge_> Joseph?
[17:23] <jorge_> can i ask u something?
[17:25] <jorge_> jussi01, can i ask u something?
[17:25] <jussi01> jorge_: ask away, I cant guarantee an answer
[17:25] <jorge_> ok
[17:26] <jorge_> i wrote sudo ndiswrapper -i airo_cs.c /bin
[17:27] <jorge_> and that pop asking me for a .inf driver
[17:27] <jussi01> yeah, you need the inf file
[17:27] <jorge_> but that is a windows,
[17:28] <jussi01> yes, its a windows file
[17:28] <jussi01> thats what ndiswrapper does, it wraps around a windows driver
[17:28] <jorge_> ok
[17:29] <jorge_> thanks
[17:29] <stefan__> !adobe
[17:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adobe - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:29] <stefan__> !adobereader
[17:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adobereader - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:30] <azuki> anybody here that could help with mounting?
[17:30] <CappY> !help
[17:30] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[17:30] <CappY> azuki: what you  need ?
[17:31] <azuki> cappy: it's now like : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/61033/
[17:31] <azuki> but I get (on the last two drives) "reading directory 0%"
[17:31] <azuki> when I rightclick and mount all sorts of messages apear
[17:33] <jussi01> stefan__: you can use kpdf (already installed) or get adobe reader from !medibuntu
[17:33] <jussi01> !pdf > stefan__
[17:35] <linux__> jo
[17:35] <azuki> just can't get it right :(..
[17:35] <CappY> hm
[17:35] <azuki> which is odd.. since in gnome it just works
[17:35] <azuki> and here it's neverending pain
[17:36] <azuki> errors vary from permission denieds to unknown FS
[17:37] <jussi01> azuki: could you please pastebin your fstab, as well as the output of: sudo mount -a
[17:37] <azuki> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/61033/
[17:37] <azuki> mount -a says nothing
[17:37] <azuki> (no errors)
[17:38] <jussi01> azuki: which drive is the error message regarding?
[17:38] <azuki> and here is the fdisk -l: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/61034/
[17:39] <azuki> all of them
[17:39] <azuki> I can't get any disk rightly mounted
[17:39] <azuki> just the windows drive seems to work
[17:39] <azuki> sda1 works fine
[17:39] <Kheops> hi
[17:40] <Kheops> how i can format a ext3 partition as ntfs ?
[17:40] <azuki> kheops: gparted most of the time can format to NTFS
[17:41] <Kheops> it dosen't
[17:41] <Kheops> tell me another way
[17:41] <Kheops> command line
[17:41] <azuki> I don't know sorry.. maybe someone else does
[17:41] <Kheops> k
[17:42] <emilsedgh> fdisk ?
[17:42] <Kheops> hm u ask me ?
[17:42] <Kheops> or respond
[17:43] <azuki> jussi01: sdb1 sais wrong FS-type
[17:43] <azuki> no.. that sdc1... (wrong FS type)
[17:44] <azuki> sdb1 says permission denied
[17:44] <helmut_> hello
[17:45] <azuki> sda1 now also says wrong filesystem type
[17:48] <dennister> ok, #ubuntu-server is pretty quiet, can someone help me with getting apache to run under ssl?
[17:49] <dennister> or ssh, openssh...whatever
[17:50] <dennister> followed this main documentation howto: https://help.ubuntu.com/7.10/server/C/httpd.html
[17:50] <dennister> and it all worked before i actually got a site up (for internal use), but have to comment out all the ssh stuff in main config file for it to work
[17:51] <jussi01> dennister: basic questions first, you have the ssh package installed?
[17:51] <dennister> yes, most definitely
[17:51] <jussi01> excellent :)
[17:52] <dennister> as i said, i followed the official documentation, which included the ssl cert, key, etc, and it did work
[17:53] <azuki> jussi01: oh..
[17:53] <jussi01> dennister: Its not really my area, so I dont know how much help I can be
[17:53] <jussi01> azuki: can you give me that fdisk -l pastebin again?
[17:54] <dennister> jussi01: hmmm, well, let's try...looking for any ideas, and last night a really simple idea from kgoetz helped solve another issue
[17:54] <azuki> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/61034/
[17:55] <azuki> wow.. I just get a popup: new medium detected.. LOL
[17:55] <jussi01> dennister: do /msg ubotu lamp
[17:55] <jussi01> I would think maybe there is some help there
[17:55] <azuki> the SDA1 one is prolly coming back
[17:55] <jussi01> azuki: what did you change?
[17:56] <azuki> notrhing
[17:56] <jussi01> heh
[17:56] <azuki> I closed fstab?"
[17:56] <azuki> without savind
[17:56] <azuki> g
[17:57] <dennister> jussi01: i've been poring over that and ALL the docs, haven't found my answer yet...i have all the proper ssl lines in my etc/apache2/sites-available/mysite file
[17:57] <jussi01> dennister: ok.
[17:58] <dennister> but they have to be commented out for apache to work at all...i want apache to work WITH them uncommented and active
[17:59] <jussi01> dennister: Im not thinking very straigh, but could it be a port/firewall issue?
[17:59] <artfullylost> If I'm dual booting vista and kubuntu, which should I install first, or does it matter?
[17:59] <dennister> last night the simple fix was: symlinks from usr/share/phpmyadmin to var/www/mysite
[17:59] <jussi01> artfullylost: vista
[18:00] <dennister> not a firewall, this is the case on the server downstairs, and from other clients
[18:00] <artfullylost> Is there a reason for this jussi01?
[18:00] <jussi01> artfullylost: yes, because if you install vista second it will overwrite the grub bootloader
[18:00] <artfullylost> That's what I figured.
[18:00] <dennister> might be a port...should i be symlinking ssl directories with the var/www/mysite?
[18:01] <artfullylost> I was just double checking.
[18:01] <jussi01> artfullylost: you can of course restore it, but that takes time and effort
[18:01] <jussi01> ok, Im going to find food... :)
[18:05] <azuki> hmm.. I mounted the drives in gparted and they do seem to work ...
[18:08] <ubuntunoob> ok i have a few questions about ubuntu
[18:09] <JoshOvki> ubuntunoob: you may want to try  #ubuntu then, because tis is kubuntu :)
[18:10] <ubuntunoob> ok ty
[18:10] <ubuntunoob> well isnt this ubuntu help
[18:10] <SlimeyPete> this is kubuntu help
[18:10] <ubuntunoob> whats the difference?
[18:11] <drif> kde<->gnome for instance
[18:11] <JoshOvki> Ubuntu has gnome as the frount end, kubuntu had KDE
[18:11] <SlimeyPete> kubuntu comes with a different desktop environment and different default software
[18:11] <ubuntunoob> oh ok
[18:11] <ubuntunoob> ty
[18:11] <drif> JoshOvki: had?
[18:11] <JoshOvki> typo
[18:11] <drif> heh
[18:11] <JoshOvki> :)
[18:11] <drif> got me scared there ;)
[18:12]  * dthacker-work must...resist...gnome...bashing...tendencies....
[18:12] <JoshOvki> lol, d and s are too close for my liking, alot like all the other keys
[18:14] <drif> JoshOvki: miniature keyboard or exceptionally large fingers?
[18:15] <JoshOvki> drif: rubbish typing skills ;)
[18:16] <drif> ah, there's that factor also.. :D
[18:19] <kaminix> Is this the correct way of compressing a wav file with flac?    flac -8 file.wav -o file.flac
[18:26] <rcg1984> I remember installing a package with a bunch compileing software and what not and forgot what the package is called..?
[18:27] <llutz> rcg1984: build-essential
[18:28] <rcg1984> thanks!
[18:29] <rcg1984> I noticed an update for gnucash but there's no new package created yet
[18:39] <Odd-rationale> Can I use my gmail account with kopete to chat with someone using AIM on pidgin?
[18:40] <LadyNikon> Odd-rationale: yes
[18:41] <LadyNikon> i use it
[18:41] <romunov_> LadyNikon: are you sure? he would probably need an aim account
[18:41] <LadyNikon> romunov_: well yea.. i was assuming this person has an aim acct
[18:41] <LadyNikon> cause kopete is just a client
[18:41] <LadyNikon> bad nikon. sorry.
[18:41] <Odd-rationale> Well First of all, I dont see GoogleTalk on the add account wizard
[18:42] <Kheops> hi hi
[18:42] <romunov_> hum, don't know how kopete deals with this, since i use pidgin
[18:42] <Kheops> i want to create a ntfs partition on my Kubuntu can i ?
[18:42] <romunov_> but pidgin can handle aim and googletalk
[18:42] <Kheops> i want to create a ntfs partition on my Kubuntu can i ?
[18:42] <Kheops> i want to create a ntfs partition on my Kubuntu can i ?
[18:42] <romunov_> Kheops: please don't repeat
[18:42] <Kheops> oky
[18:43] <romunov_> if i recall correctly, linux has some issues with ntfs and is not 100% safe/reliable
[18:43] <SlimeyPete> Kheops: you can rpobably use gparted to create the partition, and mkfs.ntfs to create the filesystem, but I have not done this myself so I don't know the details.
[18:43] <SlimeyPete> however yes, linux + ntfs isn't 100% at the moment
[18:43] <SlimeyPete> so don't use it if your daa is important to you
[18:44] <romunov_> use fat32 insteda
[18:44] <romunov_> instead*
[18:44] <SlimeyPete> or just use ext2
[18:44] <SlimeyPete> windows supports ext2 these days
[18:44] <romunov_> i use ext3 for linux and fat32 for data storage
[18:44] <SlimeyPete> using the driver from fs-driver.org
[18:44] <flipstar> ext3 is backwards compatible with ext2..so you can mount an ext3 as ext2 ..
[18:44] <SlimeyPete> well yes, indeed
[18:45] <SlimeyPete> I've had occasional filesystem corruption when using the fs-driver.org driver with ext3, for some reason, but never any major problems - fsck always manages to fix it.
[18:48] <Odd-rationale> Isnt Jabber and googletalk link together somehow?
[18:48] <mrthe> русский текст видно?)
[18:48] <jpatrick> !ru | mrthe
[18:48] <ubotu> mrthe: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[18:49] <flipstar> Odd-rationale: pidgin supports both..
[18:49] <strog_> hi peeps
[18:49] <strog_> i just mounted an ntfs drive via usb and i cannot open it
[18:49] <Odd-rationale> flipstar: Can I use my googletalk account with kopete?
[18:50] <RobotGuy> Isn't there a package for wxPython?
[18:50] <flipstar> sorry..i dont use kopete
[18:50] <strog_> i can access the drive through the shell but i cannot change the rights
[18:50] <jussi01> Odd-rationale: correct. google talk is jabber
[18:50] <strog_> with chomod
[18:50] <strog_> can someone help me ?
[18:50] <flipstar> strog_: why dont you do it with konqueror ?
[18:50] <Odd-rationale> jussi01: OK. I never done this before either in kopete or pidgin. Would someone mind helping me out?
[18:51] <RobotGuy> I generally like Kopete, but it gets disconnected from Yahoo frequently
[18:51] <LadyNikon> i love kopete..
[18:51] <LadyNikon> i can ignore the spam
[18:51] <jussi01> Odd-rationale: sure, Ill take you through in kopete
[18:51] <LadyNikon> Odd-rationale: if you google kopete and gtalk it you should get a walk through
[18:52] <RobotGuy> I am having trouble finding a package for wxPython.  Is there one?
[18:52] <strog_> flipstar:how?
[18:52] <jussi01> !find wxpython
[18:52] <ubotu> No packages matching 'wxpython' could be found
[18:52] <strog_> flipstar: how?
[18:52] <Odd-rationale> jussi01: OK. So I go to accounts and select new. then select jabber and then click next?
[18:52] <jussi01> Odd-rationale: yes
[18:52] <RobotGuy> Drats, and I am having trouble building it from sources.
[18:52] <Odd-rationale> jussi01: My jabber id is my gmail address?
[18:52] <jussi01> Odd-rationale: yes
[18:52] <flipstar> strog_: kdesu konqueror then navigate to the mounted drive and change permissions..
[18:53] <jussi01> Odd-rationale: under connection you need talk.google.com for the server addy
[18:53] <strog_> i enter "kdesu konqueror" to the run dialog window?
[18:53] <strog_> flipstar: i enter "kdesu konqueror" to the run dialog window?
[18:53] <jussi01> Odd-rationale: and the port 5223
[18:53] <flipstar> strog_: yes
[18:54] <jussi01> Odd-rationale: tick all the boxes on the connection page
[18:54] <Odd-rationale> jussi01: ok
[18:54] <jussi01> Odd-rationale: input your password if you want, and click ok
[18:54] <Odd-rationale> jussi01: and how about in file transfer tab?
[18:55] <flipstar> RobotGuy: maybe you mean the wx2.8 package..?
[18:55] <jussi01> Odd-rationale: leave it
[18:55] <RobotGuy> flipstar: Yes, I think that's what I need.
[18:55] <RobotGuy> I installed wx-common and the wx2.8-headers but that doesn't seem to be enough.
[18:55] <Josie> I have a quick question, Are all the new feature in Ubuntu 8.04 (like new X) in Kubuntu 8.04?
[18:55] <strog_> flipstar: i get the following message
[18:55] <strog_> flipstar: is of type FSDevice but has no Dev=... entry
[18:56] <flipstar> Josie: yes..sure
[18:56] <flipstar> strog_: how did you mounted it ?
[18:56] <jussi01> Odd-rationale: Im off
[18:56] <Odd-rationale> jussi01: OK. It says I'm connected. Thanks!
[18:56] <jussi01> see you
[18:56] <ubuntunoob> what program should i use to burn to a cd
[18:57] <flipstar> k3b or brasero
[18:57] <ubuntunoob> nero isobuster what?
[18:57] <strog_> flipstar: right click in the media window and chose and chose add new device
[18:57] <strog_> chose the disk and gave the path to it
[18:57] <strog_> flipstar: according to dmesg it is sdb1
[19:02] <sourcemaker> how do I mount a crypto_LUKS filesystem?
[19:02] <sourcemaker> I installed the new kubuntu beta yesterday and now I try to copy my home data to the encrypted file system? how ?
[19:03] <flipstar> first, open the partition "cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sd<Partition> <Name>"
[19:03] <RobotGuy> flipstar: Is wx2.8 the actual name of the package?
[19:03] <flipstar> sourcemaker: then open it "mount /dev/mapper/<Name> /media/<mointpont>"
[19:04] <sigmounte> hello all !
[19:04] <jpatrick> !hi | sigmounte
[19:04] <ubotu> sigmounte: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[19:04] <flipstar> sourcemaker: you probably need to do this as sudo
[19:04] <flipstar> RobotGuy: yes this is the actual package name ..
[19:05] <RobotGuy> flipstar: apt-get could not find it.  Do I need to enable another repository?
[19:05] <flipstar> try wxwidgets2.8
[19:05] <sigmounte> i have a problem with adept , it always tell me , that there is already an apps (like apt ) who is using the package db and locking it , i have killed all the apt etc process and rm all the lock files and it still tell me it is impossible to use the package db
[19:06] <flipstar> !info wx2.8-headers > RobotGuy
[19:06] <RobotGuy> flipstar: Did not find it.  This is frustrating.
[19:06] <RobotGuy> I have wx2.8-headers installed
[19:06] <RobotGuy> And wx-common
[19:07] <flipstar> just search for wx in adept ..
[19:08] <flipstar> !apt-fix > sigmounte
[19:10] <sigmounte> flipstar, thanks for the help , but i still have this annoying message
[19:12] <flipstar> hm you sure nothing is open? like adept,synaptic or dpkg in ksysguard ?
[19:13] <sigmounte> flipstar, nothing open (adept killed , synaptic )  what do you mean by dpkg in ksysguard ?
[19:14] <flipstar> you can search in ksysguard for any of these
[19:16] <sigmounte> or ps -e | grep .... ?
[19:16] <flipstar> sure this is the commandline way :)
[19:16] <azuki> flipstar: I need your help on the mounting if you can... lemme know if you have time
[19:16] <flipstar> sure
[19:17] <azuki> it's just not working.. yet when I mount them with gparted.. they suddenly work.. (just takes about 5 minutes)
[19:17] <azuki> "
[19:17] <sourcemaker> I try to mount an encrypted file system with kubuntu gusty... the following message occurred: Failed to setup dm-crypt key mapping.
[19:18] <flipstar> azuki: this is a wired behavior..if all the entrys in fstab are correct.. i would try a reboot ..
[19:18] <azuki> I rebooted a few times allready
[19:18] <RobotGuy> flipstar: I think I found what I need now, using Adept.  I don't really care for Adept though.
[19:19] <JohnFlux> flipstar: I want to try to improve ksysguard to make it easier to see what is locking the apt database
[19:19] <JohnFlux> flipstar: i'm not sure how to show that visually though
[19:19] <flipstar> sourcemaker: at step 1 ?
[19:19] <sourcemaker> flipstar: yes
[19:20] <flipstar> JohnFlux: red is a good colour for warnings :)
[19:20] <sourcemaker> flipstar: mouting the filesystem at boot time (grub) is working fine
[19:20] <JohnFlux> flipstar: well it also means that it's bad/wrong
[19:20] <JohnFlux> flipstar: which it isn't :)
[19:20] <flipstar> sourcemaker: is it mounted ?
[19:20] <sourcemaker> no
[19:20] <sigmounte> flipstar, still not working adept don't let me do anything until the package db is unlocked :(
[19:20] <flipstar> JohnFlux: since apt did crashed at this time..it is
[19:21] <flipstar> sigmounte: you tried the thing ubotu recommend ?
[19:22] <sigmounte> flipstar,  yep tried this way : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades/Kubuntu
[19:22] <flipstar> JohnFlux: since ksysguard has nothing yet in the right corner you could place a warning there..
[19:23] <Odd-rationale> If my emails are saved in ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail , where are the contacts saved?
[19:23] <flipstar> an "!" which open a apt-status dialog or so..
[19:23] <flipstar> sigmounte: youre on hardy ?
[19:24] <sigmounte> flipstar, i'm on 7.10
[19:25] <flipstar> !apt-fix | sigmounte i mean this
[19:25] <ubotu> sigmounte i mean this: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[19:25] <sourcemaker> flipstar: my problem seems to be related to a wrong Incompatible libdevmapper kernel driver... how can I install the new version?
[19:25] <sigmounte> flipstar,   sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a  <-- i've already tried it
[19:26] <flipstar> sourcemaker: libdevmapper1.02.1 is in the hardy repos
[19:26] <sourcemaker> can you send my the apt url?
[19:27] <flipstar> sorry, what do you mean ?
[19:27] <RobotGuy> flipstar: Thanks for the help.
[19:27] <sourcemaker> flipstar: how can I download this repos file with apt?
[19:28] <sigmounte> flipstar, this is the answer i've got from ubotu after you asked it to help
[19:28] <flipstar> yes..but didnt helped ?
[19:29] <MilitantPotato> I can't get my mic working at all :(
[19:29] <flipstar> sourcemaker: repos is the shortname for repositories .. the source of all packages
[19:29] <MilitantPotato> I'm using an audigy 4
[19:29] <flipstar> MilitantPotato: is it enabled in alsamixer ?
[19:29] <sourcemaker> flipstar: ok... can I install the mapper only in gusty?
[19:32] <MilitantPotato> flipstar: yes
[19:33] <MilitantPotato> amic in playback plays mic sounds, but I can't get recording to register in teamspeak (I'm loading it with and w/o aoss)
[19:34] <MilitantPotato> what's a different program to see if mic in is working?
[19:35] <heavenquake> I'm trying to establish a server on this kubuntu-machine, but I've got no knowledge about port forwarding. How do I access my router and forward the necessary ports?(and which ports are necessary for an http/ftp/svn/ssh server?)
[19:35] <MilitantPotato> www.portforward.com might help heavenquake
[19:36] <flipstar> or #ubuntu-server
[19:36] <MilitantPotato> it will at least get you started, might not have SSH/svn ports listed
[19:36] <heavenquake> MilitantPotato: I've been there, but the rhetoric used there is less-than-newbie-friendly
[19:36] <Raspberry> I can't seem to change my display using the Display - System Settings in KDE4
[19:36] <Raspberry> nvrmind -- I'll go to the kde4 channel sorry
[19:37] <MilitantPotato> heavenquake: it has a picture guide on configuring ports, for most routers, easiest site I've seen yet, sure ya sure?
[19:37] <heavenquake> MilitantPotato: it was extremely evil last time I checked, but I'll look again
[19:39] <dennister> has anyone ever used torrentflux here? i'm having a problem witht he search engines
[19:39] <heavenquake> hmm.. how do I determine which router I have? because I've got two routers.. one "main" and one for the wireless network, the latter is the one I'm online from
[19:40] <flipstar> heavenquake: maybe you can try to access it from a browser
[19:42] <heavenquake> flipstar: yes, but.. how?
[19:42] <flipstar> just type 192.168.0.1 in the url .. or the router ip
[19:43] <flipstar> or fritz.box maybe
[19:43] <heavenquake> there's nothing at the IP you suggests. And how am I supposed to know the router ip? oO
[19:43] <SlimeyPete> erm, it's whatever you set it to when you configured the router - or else it's still set to the default, in which case check the manual
[19:44] <heavenquake> SlimeyPete: I never configured any router. Perhaps my stepfather did
[19:45] <artfullylost> So I'm most of the way through the install.
[19:45] <glen> hello
[19:45] <artfullylost> What's the hotkey to change workspaces?
[19:45] <Kr|ptiX> im have a problem when i tried to do the command make on a program maybe someone can help m e http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/61042/
[19:46] <glen> Can so9meone help me?
[19:46] <Adpad> all my disks have become locked - can someone help please?  tried to use the diskmounter... cat /etc/fstab: http://paste.stgraber.org/1975
[19:47] <flipstar> artfullylost: ctrl+alt+[f7 to f12]
[19:47] <glen> can someone help me plz?
[19:47] <glen> Umm
[19:47] <glen> So
[19:48] <jpatrick> !ask | glen
[19:48] <ubotu> glen: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[19:48] <glen> lol ok
[19:48] <glen> so I just updated it, and for some reason it looks like the link to the updater has disappeared. Can anyone tell me where to find it?
[19:48] <artfullylost> Whoa. I accidently just hit ctrl.alt.f2.
[19:49] <Kr|ptiX> can i  get some  help with install dekorator http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/61042/
[19:49] <flipstar> this brings you too tty2
[19:49] <nick_> do he have a way to open a .iso ?
[19:49] <artfullylost> Hotkeys are scary. ;0
[19:49] <flipstar> sure
[19:49] <flipstar> hotkeys not but sys rq's are
[19:49] <glen> so I just updated it, and for some reason it looks like the link to the updater has disappeared. Can anyone tell me where to find it?
[19:50] <flipstar> !iso > nick_
[19:50] <glen> lol nvm
[19:51] <artfullylost> I've always liked this whole "You can use the computer while you're installing" thing.
[19:51] <artfullylost> It's just better.
[19:53] <Kr|ptiX> does any1 kno wat kwin development headers i should get
[19:54] <emilsedgh> !leet
[19:54] <ubotu> 1337 i5 nigh-inc0mpr3h3n5ib13 70 u5 n00bs, 4nd n0b0dy c4r35 if UR 4 1337 h4x0r. Giv3 i7 4 r357.
[19:54] <Adpad> lol
[19:54] <jpatrick> Kr|ptiX: kdebase-dev
[19:55] <artfullylost> Rebooting in to another OS for a few.
[19:57] <emilsedgh> could someone translate ubotu's leet factoid to non-leet words so i could read them? :P
[19:58] <heavenquake> emilsedgh: "leet is nigh-incomprehensible to us noobs, and nobody cares if you are a leet hacker. Give it a rest."
[19:58] <emilsedgh> thanks heavenquake!
[19:58] <heavenquake> my pleasure
[19:59] <Adpad> all my disks have become locked - can someone help please?  tried to use the diskmounter... cat /etc/fstab: http://paste.stgraber.org/1975
[20:00] <de4dsnake> hi, where do i find the plain text file where knetworkmanager stores the wep key (when kwallet feature is disabled)?
[20:00] <flipstar> Adpad: what you mean locked..?
[20:00] <Adpad> I'm able to view the drives, but not edit/write !
[20:01] <de4dsnake> ne ideas?
[20:02] <Adpad> de4dsnake:  not sure :( I ran the Ubuntu Dismounter utility
[20:02] <flipstar> Adpad: change permissions on the mountpoint or in fstab
[20:02] <Adpad> flipstar: I'm kind of new, can you please help me with it?
[20:03] <flipstar> !permission
[20:03] <ubotu> An explanation of how files and directories are organized on Ubuntu, and how they can be manipulated, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview
[20:03] <de4dsnake> !knetworkmanager
[20:03] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto - Also try disabling/removing KNetworkManager if KDE applications cannot connect using dial-up
[20:04] <de4dsnake> no
[20:04] <Adpad> flipstar:  thanks, will take a look
[20:04] <de4dsnake> hi, where do i find the plain text file where knetworkmanager stores the wep key (when kwallet feature is disabled)? <-- ne ideas? google is being useless again...
[20:05] <flipstar> try .knetworkmanager in $HOME
[20:05] <de4dsnake> no such thing in ~
[20:08] <flipstar> its probably called different..or even in $HOME/kde somewhere
[20:08] <de4dsnake> tryin to find it with no success
[20:10] <flipstar> konqueror as in integrated search engine
[20:10] <flipstar> *has
[20:13] <vitok> Hallo Leute! Kann mir jemand verraten, wie ich meinem Gimp GIMP 2.4.2 deutsch beibringen kann?
[20:14] <hellhound> can someone help me understand the differences between the different file and directory masks numbers?  I am trying to setup a SAMBA share with read/write/execute permisions for all files in a directory and have the ability to create new directories.
[20:15] <Darkrift2> 777 if im correct is read write executre for EVERYONE
[20:15] <Darkrift2> if thats what you want
[20:16] <Kr|ptiX> does any1 after installing dekorator where the folder is?
[20:16] <hellhound> Darkrift2: is that the same for bothe the
[20:17] <ethan__> divx
[20:17] <hellhound> Darkrift2: is that the same for both the "create mask" and "directory mask"
[20:18] <Darkrift2> hrmmmmm
[20:18] <Darkrift2> i think thats just file permissions
[20:18] <Darkrift2> id wait for someoen else with a better answer
[20:18] <Darkrift2> i think i read your q wrong
[20:19] <ere4si> !permissions | hellhound
[20:19] <ubotu> hellhound: An explanation of how files and directories are organized on Ubuntu, and how they can be manipulated, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview
[20:20] <RIPRSC> hi
[20:20] <SlimeyPete> hi
[20:21] <RIPRSC> I have a question, I've read a tutorial on installing kubuntu as a dual boot, and it stated that the partitioning program on the livecd deletes your windows partition, even if you click the option to keep it
[20:21] <RIPRSC> is this true, or is it save to use it?
[20:22] <hellhound> ere4si: thank you
[20:23] <ere4si> k
[20:24] <ere4si> RIPRSC: it has never deleted one of mine
[20:24] <RIPRSC> ok
[20:24] <RIPRSC> ill try it then
[20:24] <RIPRSC> just wanting to be sure that i wont fuck things up :P
[20:25] <SlimeyPete> RIPRSC: back up your data first, of course
[20:25] <ere4si> RIPRSC: just be careful - and make sure before it formats that you're choices are right
[20:27] <glen> Hello again
[20:27] <SlimeyPete> hi.
[20:27] <glen> I'm using VMWare to run Kubuntu, and I need to get a file from a flash drive connected by USB. Why can't Kubuntu detect it?
[20:28] <glen> Do you know why?
[20:29] <rickest> glen: vmware is apparently not sharing USB with its virtual clients
[20:30] <glen> Do you know how I can get it to share it? I also can't install the tools, I'm not sure what version i'm supposed to put in.
[20:31] <rickest> glen: google 'vmware usb'.  3rd link might be helpful
[20:31] <glen> Let me check.
[20:34] <glen> Whew. Disconnecting it the nreconnecting it worked. Thanks.
[20:36] <yuriy> does gimp and/or krita support pressure sensitive tablets?
[20:36] <X9nLinuxX> how much space would the default installation of Ubuntu (Feisty) and KDE 3.??? take?
[20:36] <yuriy> my friend just got one working with his vista + photoshop and it took reinstalling the drivers 5 times :D
[20:38] <rickest> X9nLinuxX: around 2 GB I believe
[20:41] <X9nLinuxX> Thank you.  I'm setting up using an old iMac.  Already installed OSX.3 on one partition and now the Ubuntu installer says it can't find the other partition.
[20:41] <X9nLinuxX> guessing I might have formatted it wrong... but can't recall exactly what I did
[20:44] <X9nLinuxX> the installer shows that there is a 10G unused space available, but helpful hints on how to use it would be great right now.
[20:45] <X9nLinuxX> It refuses to allow a guided install on free space because it doesn't recognize the 10G space that is meant to be used
[20:46] <ere4si> choose manual then
[20:47] <X9nLinuxX> Did that... and now unsure how to go forward
[20:47] <ere4si> make one file 1G and mount as swap - and the rest as ext3
[20:48] <X9nLinuxX> the various Mac partitions show up (Not described very well), and it identifies two 10+ G spaces
[20:48] <thunder_> hi
[20:48] <ere4si> right click one
[20:50] <tekteen> thunder_: hi
[20:51] <X9nLinuxX> It also seems to want a root file system... "You need to specify a partition for the root file system (Mount point '/') with a minimum size of 2GB, and a swap partition of at least 256 MB.  You may also set up other partitions if you wish."
[20:52] <X9nLinuxX> how do I type in the language to handle that stuff?
[20:52] <ere4si> X9nLinuxX: the options are on the right - if it is the live  cd
[20:53] <X9nLinuxX> Yeah it is the live cd... selected swap... but then it won't allow anything to be done below in the 'Mount Point' line.
[20:54] <ere4si> X9nLinuxX: it will mount the swap alright like that
[20:54] <ere4si> X9nLinuxX: swap can only be mounted as swap
[20:55] <eldaria> !find krandr
[20:55] <ubotu> Found: sh:
[20:55] <X9nLinuxX> but I need that space to be cut up into hte various pieces since it is 10G... that's all that is available total.
[20:55] <ere4si> X9nLinuxX: then mount the ext3 partition as /
[20:55] <ere4si> X9nLinuxX: you have to make partitions before you mount them
[20:56] <X9nLinuxX> hey, am I goofing up here... the space is named "/dev/hda7"  Did I misformat that as a Mac partition or something?
[20:56] <ere4si> X9nLinuxX: right click the large swap you made then select delete
[20:57] <eldaria> anyone know where the display resolution applet is in Hardy? I tried apt-get install krandr but it is not there
[20:57] <X9nLinuxX> ok
[20:57] <X9nLinuxX> waiting for it
[20:57] <X9nLinuxX> there we go
[20:58] <ere4si> X9nLinuxX: right click the free space and select to make a partition
[20:58] <nosrednaekim> eldaria: randrtray I think... for kde4?
[20:59] <ubuntu> Hello
[20:59] <ubuntu> xD
[20:59] <eldaria> nosrednaekim: no for kde3
[20:59] <ubuntu> i hate windows è_é
[21:00] <nosrednaekim> !find randr
[21:00] <ubotu> Found: sh:
[21:00] <X9nLinuxX> ok, created new 1G partition swap...
[21:01] <ere4si> X9nLinuxX: same again but use the rest and make ext3 and mount as /
[21:02] <Jsn> I am trying to copy some files in ubuntu and i am getting the error "could not create symlink /share/doc/HTML/en/ksmoothdock/common.  Please check permissions.  I opened /share as root. any ideas?
[21:02] <X9nLinuxX> yeah, doing that already.  Looks like its doing it fine
[21:02] <ere4si> X9nLinuxX: well done :)
[21:03] <hellhound> does anyone know of a good site that helps setup a basic Samba server?  I want to set mine up to only have one share directory accesible to anyone connected to my router (192.168.1.1) and have full read/write/execute privledges
[21:03] <X9nLinuxX> Ok, it says 'no root file system defined'.  Apparently I need to take that out of one of those?
[21:03] <Jsn> !samba
[21:03] <ubotu> Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[21:03] <Jsn> there you go
[21:04] <hellhound> Jsn: thank you
[21:04] <ere4si> X9nLinuxX: the ext3 partition you made wasn't mounted right - try to mount thaat as / - the option on the right
[21:04] <ere4si> X9nLinuxX: back button will get you there
[21:06] <deadman> fuck
[21:06] <deadman> ;)
[21:06] <X9nLinuxX> ok, did that.  Now it says 'No new world boot partition was found.  The yaboot boot loader rquires an Apple_Bootstrap partition at least 819200 bytes in size using the hfs Mac file system."
[21:07] <hellhound> is there a way to just have anyone connected to my router have access to my samba share versus creating a user for each computer?
[21:08] <deadman> êòî åñòü ðóñêèé
[21:08] <deadman> )
[21:08] <ere4si> X9nLinuxX: you need boot camp installed to boot other os's on the mac I believe
[21:08] <Jucato> !ru | deadman
[21:09] <ubotu> deadman: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[21:10] <X9nLinuxX> Will that install as part of the regular installer run?
[21:10] <ere4si> X9nLinuxX: I've never even seen a mac :)
[21:11] <deadman> punks not dead
[21:11] <deadman> !!!
[21:11] <deadman> %)
[21:11] <ScarFreewill> I'm looking for ways to connect to my kubuntu xserver from windows has anyone used nx?
[21:11] <ere4si> !topic > deadman
[21:12] <ScarFreewill> or is vnc the best option?
[21:12] <SlimeyPete> xming works well
[21:12] <X9nLinuxX> I'm gonna explore a few minutes ... see what I find.  BBS
[21:12] <SlimeyPete> and it's free
[21:12] <X9nLinuxX> Thanks for the help ere4si.
[21:12] <ere4si> ScarFreewill : I use vnc
[21:12] <ere4si> X9nLinuxX: good luck
[21:13] <ScarFreewill> ere4si, what is your server name?
[21:13] <ere4si> ScarFreewill: I call it bob
[21:13] <ScarFreewill> hehe I mean the vnc server deb name?
[21:14] <ere4si> ScarFreewill: search in adept for vncserver
[21:15] <voss749> 8.04 is pretty sweet but I dont see the big leap from 7.10 I was hoping for.
[21:15] <ere4si> ScarFreewill: you'll need the portmap and vnc-common on the box you'll connect to
[21:15] <ScarFreewill> ere4si, ok
[21:16] <[Relic]> How up to date of a nvidia card can I get that will work w/o too much fuss?
[21:16] <voss749> I had to hunt down the wireless again, you would think they could nail that before 8.04 went to beta
[21:16] <ere4si> [Relic]: people use 8800's ok
[21:16] <ScarFreewill> SlimeyPete, do I need to configure or install some apps to allow xming to login to my kubuntu box?
[21:17] <[Relic]> ere4si, what about 8500 and 8600s
[21:17] <ere4si> [Relic]: I would think yes
[21:17] <voss749> Relic, My 8600 gt worked fine with 7.1 using the restricted drivers
[21:18] <shane_> need help with kmenu edit on kde 3.58...
[21:19] <[Relic]> ere4si, voss749 thanks, saw some problems with it that seemed a bit dated, but wanted to make sure, thinking a low end 8500 so I can get quad and 8G of ram for 64bit
[21:19] <shane_> If I have two user names and edit kmenu under one, it doesn't affect the other, right?
[21:19] <ere4si> shane_: nope - it's per user I think
[21:19] <voss749> Relic until WOW comes out for linux I dont see the point on anything higher than 8600 on linux
[21:20] <SlimeyPete> ScarFreewill: I think you have to enable remote X11 login somehow, but I can't remember how, sorry.
[21:20] <ere4si> !ssh
[21:20] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[21:21] <shane_> anyway to find out for sure?  shouldn't be a problem, cuz this user isn't in sudoer's or admin group, but I just want to confirm it first.
[21:22] <[Relic]> voss749, I don't game much
[21:22] <[Relic]> just tired of running out of ram for high poly art  :)
[21:23] <Cyber> kto nit govorit po russki?
[21:23] <Jucato> !ru | Cyber
[21:23] <ubotu> Cyber: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[21:24] <sourcemaker> can I use a encrypted file system for more then 1 partition? How does it work when starting kubuntu? Will I be asked for more then 1 passphrase?
[21:24] <mulder> I can't use adept...I get the message: another process is using the packaging system database...how can I kill the process?
[21:25] <voss749> Relic, you probably could use a 8400 card
[21:25] <ScarFreewill> SlimeyPete, yes I think so to, no prob I'll work it out
[21:27] <voss749> An 8400gs card can be had for $69 at circuit city
[21:27] <ere4si> I have amarok running with just the equalizer showing and can't get the main window up again - how can I see that please
[21:27] <[Relic]> voss749, 8500gt 512M for about $65 with shipping
[21:28] <Jucato> ere4si: Win+P
[21:28] <mulder> anybody know how to kill adept as I can't use?
[21:28] <Jucato> !adeptfix | mulder
[21:28] <ubotu> mulder: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[21:29] <voss749> Actually you can buy the 8400gs for $23 from microdirect
[21:30] <ere4si> Jucato: thnx
[21:30] <voss749> correction $27....
[21:31] <sourcemaker> does the new kubuntu release (1. april) supports more than one encrypted patrition?
[21:31] <Tm_T> sourcemaker: there won't be new Kubuntu release on 1. april
[21:32] <Tm_T> sourcemaker: expect as an april fool
[21:32] <sourcemaker> Tm_T: Isn't that there release date for Kubuntu 8.04?
[21:33] <william> how can you do a bit for bit copy of a partition ignoring any errors
[21:33] <Tm_T> sourcemaker: is not
[21:33] <sourcemaker> Tm_T: do you know it?
[21:33] <Tm_T> sourcemaker: well, for starters, whois me
[21:33] <Dr_willis> william,  i recall a special variantion of 'dd' just made for that task. but i dont rember its name, or where i even saw that at.
[21:33] <Tm_T> sourcemaker: after that, read the following...
[21:33] <Tm_T> !hardy | sourcemaker
[21:33] <ubotu> sourcemaker: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[21:33] <Dr_willis> william,  it must of been on some system rescue type live cd.
[21:33] <voss749> source the beta is out now...30 days from now is tenative
[21:34] <william> doc i want to do it for my ipod
[21:34] <voss749> Im running the beta on my laptop
[21:35] <sourcemaker> Tm_T: ok... thanks...
[21:35]  * Tm_T hugs sourcemaker 
[21:36] <sourcemaker> Tm_T: will the next release of kubuntu support more than 1 encrypted partition?
[21:36] <Tm_T> sourcemaker: no idea, sorry
[21:37] <sourcemaker> Tm_T: ok
[21:37] <ere4si> sourcemaker: you could ask in #ubuntu+1
[21:38] <[Relic]> now if I could just figure out how tall a cpu socket with cpu in it was, I could tell if I can use one of those huge tower coolers or not  :)
[21:39] <sourcemaker> Tm_T: is the kubuntu beta like the firefox beta... ready to use...  or is it like the kde 4.0 beta = unstable :-) Do you know?
[21:39] <flipstar> its quit stable i would say
[21:40] <flipstar> and more than 1 encrypted drives work here also
[21:40] <sourcemaker> flipstar: can I update the software... or is there an fresh-install or dist-upgrade required... when the official release it out?
[21:41] <flipstar> you could update..but i personally think a fresh install is better
[21:41] <Tm_T> sourcemaker: official release is mentioned in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron
[21:41] <Tm_T> sourcemaker: dist-upgrade ofcourse atleast required
[21:42] <Tm_T> sourcemaker: and beta is beta, not yet stable (well, not quaranteed to be stable more like)
[21:44] <sourcemaker> Tm_T: so... it's better to wait.. until the official release is out...
[21:44] <robinson> join #ubuntu+1
[21:54] <Dr_willis> i would wait about 2-3 weeks after its released. :) just in case.
[22:00] <Pilin> hola
[22:02] <ere4si> !hi | Pilin
[22:02] <ubotu> Pilin: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[22:05] <de4dsnake> hi, where do i find the plain text file where knetworkmanager stores the wep key (when kwallet feature is disabled)?
[22:08]  * DOOM_NX gn all! - Battery Empty
[22:09] <U-Dinlow> How do I get geforce4 mx460 card working properly?
[22:11] <william> whats weird is my ipod is not picked up by gparted and qparted says it's a blank parition file but i can read and write to it fine with rhythmbox and gtkpod
[22:11] <_Angelus_> guys, does using LVM reduce hard drive speed?
[22:12] <nosrednaekim> william: both of them probably have support for the IPOD protocol
[22:12] <nosrednaekim> _Angelus_: I shouldn't think so
[22:12] <william> but the drive is simply ntfs
[22:15] <nosrednaekim> william: IPODS are fat or NFS
[22:15] <jussio1> !ipod
[22:15] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto - See !RockBox for information on liberating your iPod
[22:15] <william> if it's fat doesnt that make less sense?
[22:16] <william> i dont want to access it as a music player i want to bit-for-bit copy
[22:16] <william> as a partition
[22:16] <Rudd-O> dd
[22:16] <Rudd-O> use dd command, william
[22:16] <Rudd-O> make it enter drive mode and use dd
[22:18] <Rudd-O> ipod sucks without rockbox
[22:19] <william> sudo dd /dev/sdb /ipod
[22:19] <william> dd: unrecognized operand `/dev/sdb'
[22:20] <flipstar> if=/dev/sdb of=ipod
[22:22] <william> flipster i copied and pasted it but i dont understand it?  i made a /ipod and /sdb is my ipod
[22:23] <Rudd-O> dd if=somefile of=destionationfile
[22:23] <william> oo
[22:23] <steelsnake_> good afternoon
[22:24] <steelsnake_> completely dumb question... recovery mode should have networking operational right off the bat, right?
[22:24] <william> is it possible to dd if=somedrive of=aDir?
[22:25] <flipstar> william: yes
[22:25] <steelsnake_> a directory? no.
[22:25] <fdoving> william: yeah, but not some dir. some file.
[22:25] <fdoving> william: and you will get a disk image. not the files/dirs.
[22:25] <steelsnake_> of needs to be a file or block device (like another hard disk)
[22:26] <william> ohhhhh i get it
[22:26] <Kr|ptiX> how do u make desktop shortcuts
[22:27] <steelsnake_> KDE or Gnome? :)
[22:27] <william> should it be mounted first?
[22:27] <PhilRod> right-click on desktop -> create new -> link to application
[22:27] <steelsnake_> KDE: right click on the desktop
[22:27] <flipstar> william: since you use /dev/sdb ..no
[22:27] <steelsnake_> doesn't need to be, william
[22:27] <william> dd: reading `dev/sdb': Input/output error
[22:28] <steelsnake_> should be /dev/sdb
[22:28] <steelsnake_> starts with a slash
[22:28] <Kr|ptiX> philrod: does that work with linkn to home folder
[22:28] <william> william@jesus:/$ sudo dd if=dev/sdb of=/ipod
[22:28] <william> dd: opening `/ipod': Is a directory
[22:28] <steelsnake_> do you want the whole disk or just a partition, william?
[22:28] <william> a partition should be fine
[22:28] <steelsnake_> yeh you cannot put a DIRECTORY as target :)
[22:29] <william> william@jesus:/$ sudo dd if=dev/sdb of=/ipod/ipod
[22:29] <william> dd: reading `dev/sdb': Input/output error
[22:29] <PhilRod> Kr|ptiX: for a link to a folder, use create new -> link to location
[22:29] <flipstar> hm true maje sudo dd if=dev/sdb of=/ipod/ipod
[22:29] <steelsnake_> correct command would then be: sudo dd if=/dev/sdb of=/ipod/image
[22:29] <william> no love there either
[22:29] <steelsnake_> chances are you really want /dev/sdb1 though
[22:30] <william> d: reading `dev/sdb1': Input/output error
[22:30] <steelsnake_> still i/o error?
[22:30] <steelsnake_> did you do /dev/sdb ? with slash first?
[22:31] <william> yes
[22:31] <william> even in gparted and qparted it isn't reading right but if i mount it i can access it just fine?
[22:32] <steelsnake_> ok lemme go one step back for a sec... what exactly are you trying to achieve?
[22:33] <flipstar> ipod partition
[22:33] <william> i want to backup my ipod.  first there is a minor hardware issue and im getting it repaired (headphone jack) and additionally some windows program semi-delted about 300 songs
[22:33] <Kr|ptiX> philrod: how do u make the icons bigger
[22:33] <william> i am sending it for repair and advised to back it up.  since i do have 56gb of music on it i would like that
[22:34] <Kr|ptiX> philrod: nvm i got it
[22:34] <steelsnake_> ah... well, dd does a raw image of all files on the ipod... not sure that's what you want. If you can mount it, it might make more sense to just copy the files off
[22:34] <william> some of the files say "not found" and give an error.  i think it was windows songbird effed up about 400 songs
[22:35] <william> so i want as close to an error proof method that retains as much as possible
[22:35] <steelsnake_> oke i see
[22:35] <alvaro> hi
[22:36] <william> an image is fine.  i can mount it if i want and with linux it's simply fantastic
[22:36] <steelsnake_> well, dd _should_ take an image of the whole drive. All of it. I don't own an ipod so i need to check something real quick
[22:36] <steelsnake_> when you mount it, do you mount it as /dev/sdb or as /dev/sdb1 or somesuch?
[22:37] <artfullylost> This is taking all bleeding day.
[22:37] <artfullylost> :(
[22:37] <ritalin> y0
[22:37] <ritalin> i installed kde on ubuntu
[22:37] <ritalin> how do i get rid of all the gnomeness
[22:37] <teo-> hi.. when i am connecting to wireless network with the ndiswrapper and the windows drivers i can join that network.. but when i use bcm43xx module which is completly configurated and it has firmware i cant connect :S why ?
[22:37] <william> qparted reads it as follows: /dev/sdb 60gb no partition tables found
[22:37] <nosrednaekim> teo-: only this network?
[22:37] <ritalin> anyway to do it?
[22:37] <teo-> nosrednaekim, wifi network
[22:38] <flipstar> !purekde > ritalin
[22:38] <william> which is obvious BS but i did guess that is the correct mount point.  i usually access it as /media/IPOD
[22:38] <william> at the moment is is NOT mounted
[22:38] <PhilRod> ritalin: be more specific
[22:38] <nosrednaekim> teo-: but does bcm43xx work with OTHER Accesspoints?
[22:39] <steelsnake_> to be sure, mount it please, and tell me what the mount command says the device ID is... i.e. just "mount" on the command line after mounting the ipod
[22:39] <ritalin> ty flipstar
[22:39] <teo-> yes.. it work with this ap but it doesn't want to connect always sometimes it does and sometimes it doesn't when i use ndiswrapper it connect perfecly
[22:39] <nosrednaekim> teo-: then use ndiswrapper :)
[22:40] <teo-> i don't want:) I want the original driver from ubuntu.. and also i have patched the injection
[22:41] <teo-> i have read somewhere that in the bcm43xx driver the signal is lower from the ndiswrapper drivers..
[22:41] <teo-> can that be possible ?
[22:41] <nosrednaekim> teo-: ah.. I see :) well Bcm43xx is not as reliable as ndiswrapper last I heard
[22:41] <william> YAY!! now we're getting somewhere
[22:41] <william> /dev/sdb2 on /media/WILLIAM RUL type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,flush,uid=100
[22:41] <Joelito> Does anyone know what packages do I need to download to build apps for the kde desktop? I know that it uses qt but I don't know which packages
[22:41] <teo-> nosrednaekim, ok thnx.. have a good day
[22:42] <teo-> bye
[22:42] <nosrednaekim> bye
[22:42] <steelsnake_> aha
[22:42] <nosrednaekim> Joelito: there should be a kde-dev package
[22:42] <steelsnake_> that helps :)
[22:43] <steelsnake_> so the command ought to be: sudo dd if=/dev/sdb2 of=/ipod/drive.img (or whatever you want to name the image)
[22:43] <nosrednaekim> !info kde-dev
[22:43] <PhilRod> Kr|ptiX: to get a link to the trash, create new -> link to location -> "trash:/"
[22:43] <william> thanks to everyone i think it's doing something now
[22:44] <william> especially to steelsnake who 'sealed the deal'
[22:44] <steelsnake_> glad i could help william :)
[22:44] <Joelito> nosrednaekim: Yeah :p kde-devel kde-devel-extras
[22:45] <nosrednaekim> Joelito: yep, that should do it for kde3... kde4 are different
[22:45] <Joelito> nosrednaekim: Is not portable the binaries from kde3 to kde4?
[22:45] <Joelito> Are*
[22:46] <Kr|ptiX> philrod: how come it aint update the trash icon it just looks like a file an not the icon set im using
[22:46] <U-Dinlow> please help me set up video card mx460 - a link 'll do
[22:46] <nosrednaekim> Joelito: well, things that have kde4 dependencies (i.e.,qt4, etc) will require other -dev packages
[22:46] <PhilRod> Kr|ptiX: hrm, I thought it should get the right icon. Let me try
[22:46] <steelsnake_> MX460? what brand was that?
[22:47] <nosrednaekim> U-Dinlow: install nvidia-glx-legacy
[22:47] <U-Dinlow> geforce4
[22:47] <steelsnake_> yeh what nosrednaekim says :)
[22:47] <nosrednaekim> !nvidia
[22:47] <ubotu> For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[22:47] <U-Dinlow> thanks
[22:47] <Joelito> nosrednaekim: Ah! I undersand
[22:48] <PhilRod> Kr|ptiX: are you sure you put "trash:/" in the "enter link to location" box?
[22:48] <nosrednaekim> Kr|ptiX: in any case, you can change the icon
[22:50] <Kr|ptiX> philrod: yeah
[22:55] <U-Dinlow> I'll gladly go back to gutsy, but I can't find restricted drivers under `advanced` > system > hardware drivers manager shows me - nvidia accelareated driver, but cant install it
[22:55] <nosrednaekim> U-Dinlow: did you go into admin mode?
[22:55] <nosrednaekim> U-Dinlow: you are in hardy?
[22:55] <U-Dinlow> atthe mo
[22:56] <william> U-dinlow have you tried ebvy?
[22:56] <william> *envy
[22:56] <U-Dinlow> thought that was bad
[22:56] <ere4si> !envy
[22:56] <ubotu> envy is an unsupported tool to install newer versions of binary video drivers than provided by the official repositories. Use at your own risk, and remember that the latest version is not necessarily the "best". See « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[22:57] <nosrednaekim> U-Dinlow: you may want to go back to gutsy, Hardy has its own display problems without having to bother with legacy drivers
[22:57] <william> wait
[22:57] <s0cks> Hardy doesn't release until april does it?
[22:58] <flipstar> its testin phase at the moment
[22:58] <ere4si> s0cks: late april
[22:58] <nosrednaekim> s0cks: yes
[22:58] <william> u-dinlow does not have a decent nv card.  will the binary blob still work with aztec technology?
[22:58] <s0cks> So a monthish.
[22:58] <steelsnake_> i doubt it william :)
[22:58] <steelsnake_> new driver + old card = bad news
[22:59] <U-Dinlow> will i be able to use tv out on it you reckon?
[23:00] <Kr|ptiX> philrod: how do i link to terminal
[23:00] <william> quite possibly not.  i would try in the forum maybe?
[23:01] <flipstar> william: copying with dd?
[23:01] <PhilRod> Kr|ptiX: you mean create a link to open a konsole? I think you can just drag n' drop from the K menu
[23:01] <ere4si> !tv-out | U-Dinlow
[23:01] <ubotu> U-Dinlow: For help with enabling the TV-Out, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaTVOutNewbieEdition (Nvidia cards) or http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Tvout (ATI cards, *untested*)
[23:01] <william> flipster i think so?  there is no feedback?
[23:01] <flipstar> just check the directory..
[23:01] <flipstar> it might take a while
[23:02] <flipstar> it is connected trough usb ?
[23:02] <william> yeah it's working! upto 15gb
[23:02] <william> yes flipster through usb
[23:03] <flipstar> btw it is "flipstar" not flipster
[23:03] <flipstar> :)
[23:03] <william> my bad
[23:03] <flipstar> np
[23:04] <sudobash> #kubunt
[23:04] <ere4si> the tab button is handy for that prob
[23:04] <william> woh it works! i never knew about the tab button ere4si
[23:05] <ere4si> :)
[23:05] <william> i was always typing out usernames manually
[23:05] <steelsnake_> yeh, it's handy :)
[23:06] <steelsnake_> plus all kinds of other fun things one can do with konversation... some are built in others are not
[23:06] <steelsnake_> for example /sysinfo can be neat
[23:06] <rom> hi
[23:06] <sudobash> yeah you think thats cool william try going to any of the top channels with one letter off the end of the channel name
[23:06] <rom> I have a problem to share a printer between 2 kubuntu
[23:07] <rom> could you help me?
[23:07] <rom> http://forum.kubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=202639 please see the screenshot in my last answer
[23:07] <steelsnake_> can always try rom :)
[23:07] <darkrift_> ere4si, are you around?
[23:07] <nosrednaekim> rom: yes, it is quite simple
[23:07] <ere4si> .
[23:07] <darkrift_> you helped me with my wifi yesterday
[23:07] <ere4si> hi darkrift_
[23:07] <rom> When I print, it stays "blocked" in KJobViewer
[23:07] <darkrift_> i had to reinstall (partition problems) and now its not working again
[23:08] <darkrift_> i tried to do everything the same but i guess i didnt
[23:08] <rom> and as you can see in the screenshot : job-printer-state-message : /usr/lib/cups/backend/ipp failed
[23:08] <piuma> !it
[23:08] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[23:08] <darkrift_> you had me add 'noacpi nolacpi" to the kernel command right?
[23:08] <darkrift_> no -'s?
[23:08] <ere4si> darkrift_: noapic nolapic   at the end of the kernel line in /boot/grubmenu.lst
[23:09] <steelsnake_> rom: to begin with, does it work locally?
[23:09] <rom> yes
[23:09] <ere4si> spelling
[23:09] <darkrift_> ahhhh
[23:09] <darkrift_> apic
[23:09] <darkrift_> i knew something looked wrong
[23:09] <ere4si> hehe
[23:09] <darkrift_> lemme fix that :)
[23:10] <rom> maybe an "authentification problem"?
[23:10] <rom> no
[23:10] <rom> ?
[23:10] <darkrift_> what with this apic acpi crap
[23:10] <steelsnake_> did you check what /usr/lib/cups/backend/ipp looks like? is it there, executable and all?
[23:10] <darkrift_> why do they have to be that difficult lol
[23:10] <nonewmsgs> darkrift_, it is there to remind you that it's not windows
[23:10]  * darkrift_ reboots and ill let you know if you saved me again
[23:11] <rom> -rwx------ 3 root root 24200 2008-01-10 10:20 ipp
[23:11] <ere4si> darkrift_: it is just how the os handles the hardware
[23:11] <steelsnake_> that looks wrong, rom... should be 0755 (rwxr-xr-x)
[23:11] <rom> oki I try
[23:12] <steelsnake_> all the files in that dir should have 0755, or at least thats what it is on my machine
[23:12] <nonewmsgs> how does linux know what kind of file something is withuot an extensino?
[23:12] <rom> doesn't resolve the problem
[23:13] <rom> always /usr/lib/cups/backend/ipp failed
[23:13] <rom> (and mods are defaults in kubuntu 7.10)
[23:13] <rom> 700
[23:13] <flipstar> nonewmsgs: its about magic numbers in the file :)
[23:13] <rom> for this file
[23:13] <nonewmsgs> flipstar, so it's all in the header
[23:14] <rom> rom@rom-laptop:/usr/lib/cups/backend$ sudo ./ipp
[23:14] <rom> network ipp "Unknown" "Internet Printing Protocol (ipp)"
[23:14] <steelsnake_> i'm on 7.10 rom, but upgraded since ancient days so i don't know for sure what a clean install would be like :)
[23:14] <steelsnake_> yeh says the same on mine, but that makes sense... you're not passing any parameters to it
[23:15] <nosrednaekim> rom: I can't read the exact error and all... did you try the freinch IRC channel?
[23:15] <sudobash> much smarter than windows eh nonewmsgs
[23:15] <nonewmsgs> sudobash, i know it!
[23:15] <flipstar> nonewmsgs: yes.. see /usr/share/file/magic for a list
[23:15] <Roey> hi
[23:15] <nosrednaekim> sudobash: <--- hey... you stole that from me <_<
[23:15] <sudobash> sorry i just got in the house
[23:16] <rom> nosrednaekim: too few people on kubuntu-fr
[23:16] <Roey> why does my mousewheel scroll horizontally instead of vertically?  xmodmap gives  http://rafb.net/p/RpICES32.html <-- does this look corrrect?  I have a standard mouse
[23:16] <rom> and no answer
[23:16] <sudobash> but hey nosrednaekim... i bet i will pwn you before you know it...
[23:16] <rom> the problem is that when I print, the job stay "blocked"
[23:16] <sudobash> .... dont type your #channels in manually
[23:16] <sudobash> or you will eventually end up seeing me :)
[23:17] <darkrift_> hrmmmm
[23:17] <darkrift_> i fixed it, but still didnt work
[23:17] <darkrift_> i dont even see anything about eth1 in dmesg
[23:17] <nonewmsgs> actually i was told to type in channels without the last letter
[23:17] <darkrift_> [    0.000000] Kernel command line: root=UUID=34549cff-3bb2-435f-8293-278925486845 acpi=off ro quiet splash noapic nolapic
[23:17] <darkrift_> [    0.000000] mapped APIC to ffffd000 (fee00000)
[23:17] <darkrift_> [    0.000000] mapped IOAPIC to ffffc000 (fec00000)
[23:18] <sudobash> i get these all day:
[23:18] <darkrift_> oops, thought it was one line
[23:18] <sudobash> * budwaa (n=tomomas@unaffiliated/budwaa) has joined #sudobash
[23:18] <sudobash> * budwaa (n=tomomas@unaffiliated/budwaa) has left #sudobash
[23:18] <steelsnake_> hmmm rom, i'm a bit stumped... for the heck of it i'd use a browser and go to http://rom-laptop:631/printers/... (the line it says in job-printer-uri, just use http instead of ipp)
[23:18] <sudobash> programming rocks
[23:18] <sudobash> scripting too
[23:18] <steelsnake_> that _should_ give you a management page
[23:18] <steelsnake_> to make sure that part works ok at least
[23:19] <ere4si> darkrift_: remove the  acpi=off    part
[23:19] <darkrift_> not sure if i can boot with that off
[23:19] <darkrift_> adding that fixes some sort of graphic bug that gives me odd grey/white/black lines that swim across my screen during boot
[23:19] <darkrift_> but ill try it :)
[23:19] <rom> hmm very strange thing, http://localhost:631 works, http://127.0.0.1:631 works
[23:20] <rom> http://127.0.1.1:631 doesn't work
[23:20] <steelsnake_> 127.0.1.1 ???
[23:20] <rom> while /etc/hosts automatically have an alias for 127.0.1.1
[23:20] <rom> $ cat /etc/hosts
[23:20] <rom> 127.0.0.1       localhost
[23:20] <rom> 127.0.1.1       rom-laptop
[23:20] <rom> 192.168.0.1 rom-desktop
[23:20] <steelsnake_> you didn't use the 127.x network for your LAN didya?
[23:20] <rom> it is the default configuration for kubuntu
[23:20] <rom> (except 192...)
[23:21] <rom> that's maybe the problem
[23:21] <rom> :)
[23:21] <steelsnake_> oke, so you're trying ipp to localhost? :)
[23:21] <steelsnake_> then use localhost... don't use 127.0.1.1... ;)
[23:21] <rom> yes but I don't use, it's cups which use rom-laptop:631
[23:21] <rom> while rom-laptop is 127.0.1.1
[23:21] <rom> :)
[23:21] <steelsnake_> is the printer attached to your lappy?
[23:22] <DarkriftX> actually, i think the driver might be wrong
[23:22] <steelsnake_> or desktop?
[23:22] <rom> desktop
[23:22] <rom> but it adds a job on laptop
[23:22] <steelsnake_> then it actually ought to map to 192.168.0.1 (or rom-desktop, since you have that alias in your hosts file)
[23:23] <rom> yes but :
[23:23] <rom> http://www.enregistrersous.com/images2/65251707820080326000104.png
[23:23] <rom> look at "job-printer-uri"
[23:23] <rom> I never typed ipp://rom-laptop... anywhere
[23:23] <steelsnake_> hmmm
[23:23] <jcgkffycs> I accidently installed a firewall which was a dependancy of another packeg onto a remote machine, luckily I have a windows vm running so I still have ssh access into it, but now ssh form the outside no longer works, I removed the firewall, and all it's packages using apt, but I still cannot gain access over ssh, ive done some googling, but nothing seems to come up.
[23:24] <nosrednaekim> rom: but you probably put in your IP
[23:24] <rom> no, I only added "remote printer" with ipp://rom-desktop:631/printers/rom-printer
[23:24] <rom> url
[23:24] <rom> that's all
[23:24] <steelsnake_> truthfully, i've got no idea where the heck kubuntu got that from
[23:24] <steelsnake_> it doesn't exist on my machine, and it really shouldn't either
[23:24] <nosrednaekim> jcgkffycs: you need to stop the firewall service
[23:25] <rom> and rom-desktop is 192.168.0.1
[23:25] <sudobash> jcgkffycs totally random question do you pay for vmplayer.....  maybe you have to start the ssh daemon again
[23:25] <sudobash> ?
[23:25] <rom> which I want
[23:25] <steelsnake_> yep
[23:25] <rom> I don't know why it use rom-laptop.... in job-printer-uri
[23:25] <sudobash> stop firewall stop daemon start daemon
[23:25] <rom> I don't use firewlal
[23:25] <rom> firewall
[23:25] <rom> I have a router
[23:25] <sudobash> jcgkffycs
[23:26] <sudobash> what kind of router?
[23:26] <sudobash> rom
[23:26] <rom> freebox
[23:26] <jcgkffycs> I restarted ssh, let me try to stop the firewall service
[23:26] <rom> but on lan, there is no nat
[23:26] <steelsnake_> sorry in that case i'm a little stumped rom, and i have to head out... but i'd say that might give you a pointer, it's just not using the right address (in my opinion)... where it got that from... gooooood question, no idea
[23:26] <steelsnake_> he's talking to jcgkffycs, not to you rom... different issue
[23:26] <sudobash> rom what is router address?
[23:27] <sudobash> rom-d is 192.168.0.1 i see
[23:27] <rom> 192.168.0.127
[23:27] <rom> is router
[23:27] <DarkriftX> ty again ere4si
[23:27] <sudobash> and printer IP or is connected to a PC
[23:27] <DarkriftX> wifi working on my new install
[23:27] <rom> connected to rom-desktop (192.168.0.1)
[23:28] <ere4si> DarkriftX: working ok? yahhh
[23:28] <DarkriftX> last one was small partition incase it dint work, but resizing didnt work out so i had to repartition
[23:28] <steelsnake_> anyway, sorry to leave you hanging rom... i need to head out... good luck
[23:28] <rom> ok ...
[23:28] <rom> ;)
[23:28] <jcgkffycs> sorry
[23:28] <sudobash> while rom-laptop is 127.0.1.1
[23:28] <sudobash> that cant be right
[23:29] <rom> when I "analyse" with wizard
[23:29] <ere4si> DarkriftX: did youhave to remove  apic=off?
[23:29] <rom> it finds rom-desktop
[23:29] <sudobash> what does ifconfig say on rom-laptop
[23:29] <Pickles> Anyone know where to get drivers for the Logitech 350 USB headset for Ubuntu 7.04?
[23:29] <rom> what line do you want sudobash?
[23:29] <rom> rom-laptop is 192.168.0.2
[23:29] <DarkriftX> yes ere4si and it worked
[23:30] <DarkriftX> ive never gotten linux to boot on this laptop without that
[23:30] <ere4si> DarkriftX: :) - but it does now - hmmm
[23:31] <sudobash> http://127.0.0.1 works on what computer?
[23:31] <sudobash> the one the printer is hooked to correct?
[23:31] <DarkriftX> what do i do again to make it so i dont have to sudo to use apt-get?
[23:31] <rom> with :631 yes
[23:31] <DarkriftX> something about adding a line in sudoers or something
[23:31] <sudobash> thats because it is the loopback
[23:31] <sudobash> from the other pc try connecting to 192.168.0.1:631
[23:32] <rom> it works too
[23:32] <sudobash> so whats the problem?
[23:32] <rom> the problem is that when I print, it stay blocked
[23:32] <Darkrift2> !sudoers
[23:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sudoers - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:32] <rom> http://www.enregistrersous.com/images2/65251707820080326000104.png
[23:33] <Darkrift2> !sudors
[23:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sudors - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:33] <Darkrift2> erm
[23:33] <sudobash> what stays blocked the traffic from 192.168.0.2 -> 192.168.0.1?
[23:33] <sudobash> can you ping from 192.168.0.2 -> 192.168.0.1
[23:33] <rom> no
[23:33] <sudobash> ?
[23:33] <rom> yes
[23:33] <sudobash> ok
[23:33] <rom> on the screenshot
[23:34] <rom> look at KJobViewer
[23:34] <sudobash> sudo apt-get install nmap
[23:34] <rom> in État (state) it is writter "Traitement", but one or two second later, it was written "BLOCKED"
[23:34] <ere4si> Darkrift2: I have that on my other comp - one min
[23:34] <rom> that's the problem
[23:34] <sudobash> install that rom
[23:34] <sudobash> rom: sudo apt-get install nmap
[23:34] <rom> what is it fo
[23:34] <rom> r
[23:34] <sudobash> to see what ports are being blocked
[23:35] <rom> ok done
[23:35] <ere4si> Darkrift2: open a konsole then type   sudo visudo
[23:35] <sudobash> nmap -v -v -sT 192.168.0.1 -p 631, 21, 22, 23 etc
[23:35] <sudobash> maybe also try:
[23:36] <sudobash> nmap -v -v -P0 192.168.0.1 -p <portnumber>
[23:36] <Darkrift2> hrmmm
[23:36] <Darkrift2> lemme go google it so i dont mess it up
[23:36] <rom> 631/tcp open  ipp
[23:36] <sudobash> well there you are
[23:36] <sudobash> traffic not being blocked
[23:36] <sudobash> well
[23:37] <sudobash> maybe it is being block on 192.168.0.2 outbound
[23:37] <rom> yes I know traffic is not blocked :)
[23:37] <rom> printing job is blocked :(
[23:37] <sudobash> one second
[23:37] <sudobash> cupsd?
[23:38] <sudobash> its been months since i messed with printing in ubuntu
[23:38] <jcgkffycs> If I have a firewall on my system, but I son't have any idea what the daemon is is there a way i kill it? or am I stuck?
[23:38] <sudobash> jcgkffycs: ps aux , and top
[23:39] <sudobash> actually: ps aux |less
[23:39] <sudobash> or ps aux |moew
[23:39] <sudobash> or ps aux |more
[23:39] <sudobash> which ever you like more
[23:39] <Darkrift2> ok, im reading the sudoers man, but not understanding what to do. I just want it so that i dont need sudo to apt-get, what would be the easiest way to do that?
[23:39] <rom> cupsd is launched
[23:39] <rom> in http://localhost:631/printers/rom-printer
[23:39] <rom> printer state : do nothing, accept tasks, hidden
[23:40] <rom> uri : ipp://rom-desktop:631/printers/rom-printer
[23:40] <rom> so it looks good
[23:40] <sudobash> i think you are using the localhost adapter to launch the cupsd
[23:40] <rom> but doesn't work :(
[23:40] <ere4si> Darkrift2: open a konsole and type  sudo visudo
[23:40] <Darkrift2> im in there
[23:40] <Darkrift2> all it idd was open the file in nano
[23:40] <sudobash> rom you need to set it up to use the 192.168.0.* adapter
[23:40] <Darkrift2> but i still dont know what/how to add apt-get
[23:41] <rom> sudobash: ?
[23:41] <rom> I have a cupsd on both
[23:41] <ere4si> at the bottom add the line   "you're username" ALL=NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/apt-get
[23:41] <rom> I just enabled "access remote printers" in kde prefs on one pc and "share printers on lan" on the other
[23:41] <Darkrift2> so: darkrift ALL=NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/apt-get
[23:42] <Darkrift2> or quotes around my name
[23:42] <ere4si> Darkrift2: yep
[23:42] <ere4si> Darkrift2: no quotes
[23:42] <Darkrift2> hrmmmm
[23:42] <sudobash> http://linux.about.com/library/cmd/blcmdl8_cupsd.htm
[23:42] <Darkrift2> does that require a reboot?
[23:43] <ere4si> Darkrift2: shouldn't
[23:43] <ere4si> Darkrift2: try and see
[23:43] <Darkrift2> apt-get still needs sudo :(
[23:43] <Darkrift2> i could do an alias lol
[23:43] <rom> sudobash : http://www.enregistrersous.com/images2/72830982920080326004333.png
[23:43] <Darkrift2> i just always forget to type sudo and then have to delete and add it on
[23:43] <rom> 192.168.0.2:631/printers/rom-printer
[23:44] <ere4si> Darkrift2: you still need to type sudo - just needs no password
[23:44] <sudobash> WOW
[23:45] <sudobash> your lucky a few months ago I was working on the same exact printer
[23:45] <sudobash> ill help you out.. talk to me in pm
[23:45] <sudobash> i dont understand that language in the link but i can maybe help you out
[23:46] <rom> I am not registered
[23:46] <rom> I can't pm
[23:46] <sudobash> oh
[23:46] <rom> and another rom is already registered
[23:46] <rom> maybe you have a jabber address
[23:47] <sudobash> if you install TightVNC i will connect to you and fix your printer
[23:47] <artfullylost> The updater isn't working. :(
[23:47] <rom> ok I have krfb :)
[23:48] <rom> wait a minute
[23:48] <sudobash> i have to play around with it thats how i got my grandfathers cannon IP1600 to work in Ubuntu with Cupsd
[23:48] <sudobash> it works with TurboPrint with the Watermark doesnt it rom?
[23:48] <artfullylost> I got an error saying "There was an error commiting changes. Possibly..."
[23:48] <rom> don't know :)
[23:48] <artfullylost> What should I be doing?
[23:48] <sudobash> it does ; )
[23:48] <rom> sudobash: for vnc : rom.ath.cx:6902
[23:48] <sudobash> wait
[23:49] <sudobash> i will give you a nick to take over
[23:49] <plus_M> Hi, I'm trying out Kubuntu KDE 4.0 8.04 beta in virtualbox, but I can't seem to get the resolution above 800x600.  I explicitly gave some available resolutions in xorg.conf, but it doesn't seem to be accepting them
[23:49] <rom> tell me when you are ok
[23:49] <rom> I can give the pass here, it's temporary
[23:50] <artfullylost> The distribution upgrader says applying changes, but nothing is happening in the terminal... Any ideas?
[23:50] <nonewmsgs> dammit my cable disconected after 45gb...is there any way to continue
[23:50] <sudobash> one second
[23:50] <nonewmsgs> resume the dd?
[23:51] <rom> sudobash: type in a console :
[23:51] <rom> nc rom.ath.cx 3132
[23:51] <sudobash> heh
[23:52] <rom> ...
[23:52] <rom> again
[23:52] <nonewmsgs> is there a way to resume a disconected dd?
[23:52] <rom> :)
[23:52] <artfullylost> Yeah, I should be seeing stuff scrolling by in the terminal during a distro upgrade, correct?
[23:52] <rom> ok sudobash?
[23:53] <sudobash> one second i am looking up about cupsd again
[23:53] <rom> did you receive the pass via nc,
[23:53] <rom> ?
[23:53] <rom> for vnc?
[23:53] <artfullylost> Anyone?
[23:54] <rom> sudobash: did you receive vnc pass?
[23:54] <Darkrift2> ahhh, root left, were all doomed!
[23:55] <arschknacker1> paule118
[23:55] <Darkrift2> whew, root is back... was scared for a minute
[23:55] <artfullylost> Anyone? I'm confused.
[23:58] <sudobash> rom /join #sudobash