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| slomo | seb128: hi :) could you sync gst-plugins-base0.10 0.10.18-3 from incoming? :) | 08:54 |
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| seb128 | hey slomo | 08:55 |
| seb128 | will do in a bit | 08:55 |
| slomo | ok :) | 08:55 |
| slomo | did we have some reports that the totem-mozilla plugin doesn't work good anymore since gstreamer 0.10.18? | 08:56 |
| lool | seb128: Had a good Easter? | 08:56 |
| seb128 | lool: yes, too short but good ;-) What about you? | 08:56 |
| seb128 | slomo: not that I know, no, why? | 08:56 |
| slomo | seb128: because it was broken until my gstreamer0.10 upload some seconds ago :) simply stopped playing very often for no good reason | 08:57 |
| lool | seb128: Fine here too | 08:57 |
| slomo | do we have a freeze for NEW packages? | 08:57 |
| seb128 | ah ok, I guess not so many people use it in the web browser | 08:57 |
| slomo | if we have no freeze for NEW packages i'd like to have tangerine synced :) | 08:58 |
| seb128 | I'm not sure now | 08:59 |
| seb128 | pitti: hey | 08:59 |
| seb128 | pitti: ^ do we have a freeze for new universe packages? | 08:59 |
| MacSlow | *stretch* | 09:08 |
| slomo | seb128: and please sync banshee 0.13.2+dfsg-9 :) | 09:11 |
| slomo | seb128: ok, to summarize: banshee 0.13.2+dfsg-9, gst-plugins-base0.10 0.10.18-3 from incoming and tangerine from the pool if we can still get NEW packages in ;) | 09:19 |
| seb128 | alright | 09:19 |
| seb128 | hey MacSlow | 09:19 |
| slomo | that's all from me for today i guess :) | 09:19 |
| huats | moring seb128 | 09:20 |
| huats | morning slomo | 09:20 |
| seb128 | hey huats | 09:20 |
| slomo | hi huats :) | 09:20 |
| huats | :) | 09:21 |
| MacSlow | Salut seb128, ca va bien? | 09:21 |
| seb128 | MacSlow: très bien, et toi ? ;-) | 09:22 |
| MacSlow | seb128, je suis bien aussi, merci! | 09:24 |
| MacSlow | so much for my french | 09:24 |
| * crevette raises the French flag over the #u-desktop chan | 09:44 | |
| huats | lut crevette | 10:03 |
| lool | seb128: Hmm can you please sync libmatchbox/1.9-3 | 10:14 |
| lool | seb128: It adds pango support which we need for mobile (for chinese chars) | 10:15 |
| seb128 | ok | 10:15 |
| lool | Thanks | 10:16 |
| lool | #202329 | 10:16 |
| crevette | salut huats | 10:16 |
| seb128 | bug #202329 | 10:31 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 202329 in libmatchbox "Unable to render multibyte window titles" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/202329 | 10:31 |
| seb128 | slomo, lool: banshee, gst-plugins-base0.10, libmatchbox synced | 10:32 |
| slomo | seb128: thanks :) | 10:40 |
| lool | seb128: Thanks | 10:41 |
| pitti | seb128: universe freeze> just normal feature freeze | 10:45 |
| seb128 | pitti: ok, so no new packages there without exception | 10:45 |
| seb128 | hey pitti ;-) | 10:45 |
| pitti | seb128: exactly | 10:45 |
| * pitti hugs seb128, bonjour | 10:45 | |
| * seb128 hugs pitti, guten tag ;-) | 10:46 | |
| slomo | ok :) | 10:47 |
| slomo | then let's get tangerine ;) | 10:47 |
| seb128 | slomo: you need a freeze exception | 10:54 |
| slomo | oh | 10:54 |
| slomo | right, i misread it, sorry | 10:54 |
| slomo | well, maybe later then | 10:55 |
| slomo | seb128: nevermind, wiki tells me that NEW packages for universe are only considered until beta freeze | 11:03 |
| pitti | seb128: doing kwwii's u-gdm-themes sponsoring now | 11:09 |
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| seb128 | pitti: ok | 11:09 |
| pitti | + * Updated the gdm theme to fix a bug (LP: 202193) | 11:09 |
| pitti | kwwii: ^ just for next time: LP: #202193, and the bug description could be a bit more verbose :) | 11:10 |
| * pitti hugs kwwii | 11:10 | |
| * pitti munges changelog to | 11:12 | |
| pitti | * Updated the gdm theme to fix placement of "incorrect password" error | 11:12 |
| pitti | message (LP: #202193) | 11:12 |
| slomo | seb128: hm, maybe sync swfdec-mozilla, swfdec-gnome and swfdec0.6 :) it's part of gnome 2.22 | 11:37 |
| seb128 | slomo: swfdec is no, only -gnome, but yeah, I would like to get those uptodate in hardy | 11:38 |
| seb128 | I've been too busy with other things though | 11:38 |
| seb128 | I think for the good form somebody should get an uvf exception | 11:39 |
| slomo | seb128: right, only -gnome but -gnome depends on swfdec0.6 and old swfdec-mozilla won't work anymore from what i see ;) | 11:39 |
| slomo | so this does need uvf exception? *sigh* | 11:39 |
| seb128 | or slangasek or pitti approval | 11:40 |
| slomo | ok, later then... | 11:40 |
| slomo | bbl | 11:40 |
| seb128 | I've looked at it, but there is a transition involved since the binary naming changed | 11:40 |
| kwwii | pitti: I realize now that the increase in file size was the human list theme changes | 12:53 |
| kwwii | pitti: I will look into removing any extra files the author left in | 12:53 |
| kwwii | Pitti: Here is an updated source package (includes the changes Mark wants on gdm as well as removing some files from HumanList | 13:05 |
| kwwii | http://sinecera.de/ubuntu-gdm-themes_0.28.dsc | 13:05 |
| kwwii | http://sinecera.de/ubuntu-gdm-themes_0.28_source.build | 13:05 |
| kwwii | http://sinecera.de/ubuntu-gdm-themes_0.28_source.changes | 13:05 |
| kwwii | http://sinecera.de/ubuntu-gdm-themes_0.28.tar.gz | 13:05 |
| pitti | kwwii: ah, thanks; why 28? I uploaded 26 before AFAIR? | 13:11 |
| Hobbsee | pitti: fear of cubes. | 13:11 |
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| kwwii | pitti: well, I changed it twice so each time I bumped a number | 13:37 |
| kwwii | pitti: it does not have to be that way though :-) | 13:37 |
| kwwii | my rule is to bump it up a number each time I commit ;-) | 13:38 |
| soren | I just upgraded my wife's laptop to hardy. Starting evolution I'm being asked to restore from a backup. I didn't make one, so I chose "Next". Now I need to configure evolution all over again. Is that expected? | 13:44 |
| seb128 | soren: no | 13:47 |
| seb128 | soren: did you keep the user directory? | 13:47 |
| seb128 | soren: it should ask no question at all, if you get the backport question it handle it as a first start | 13:47 |
| soren | seb128: Sure, I used update-manager to do the upgrade. | 13:48 |
| seb128 | soren: that's very weird | 13:48 |
| seb128 | soren: is gconf working correctly? | 13:49 |
| soren | I see it running. | 13:49 |
| soren | Started 40 minutes ago, which is consistent with login time. | 13:50 |
| seb128 | can you browse apps, evolution in gconf-editor? | 13:50 |
| soren | I had a gnome-terminal profile set up on her box which was lost as well. | 13:50 |
| seb128 | are you sure you are logged using the correct user?! | 13:50 |
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| soren | seb128: Yes, but I just set up evolution again, so that's not really surprising. I wish I could have kept it for debugging, but my wife needed it for work :/ | 13:51 |
| seb128 | did you have other things customized? the gnome-panel layouts, background image, etc? | 13:51 |
| soren | Heh.. Yes, it's the only (non-system) user on the machine. | 13:51 |
| seb128 | are those still correct? | 13:51 |
| soren | Nope. | 13:52 |
| soren | But. | 13:52 |
| soren | I pointed my wife at the upgrade instructions. They said to make sure the current system was completely up-to-date. | 13:52 |
| soren | ...after bringing the gutsy system up-to-date, her background was reset to the default gutsy one. | 13:52 |
| seb128 | there is something weird going on there | 13:53 |
| seb128 | did you fix that too? | 13:53 |
| soren | fix it? No, I just shrugged. :) | 13:54 |
| soren | I didn't think much of it at the time (it was quite late last night). | 13:54 |
| soren | In retrospect, I probably should have, but here we are. | 13:54 |
| seb128 | well, is the background still broken? | 13:54 |
| soren | It's the default hardy one now. | 13:54 |
| soren | (With the heron and all that) | 13:54 |
| seb128 | in which case, open gconf-editor, go to desktop, gnome, background | 13:54 |
| seb128 | and look at the value here | 13:54 |
| seb128 | then .gconf | 13:55 |
| seb128 | and grep for the key name | 13:55 |
| seb128 | and look at the values in the .xml | 13:55 |
| seb128 | then .gconf -> then cd .gconf | 13:55 |
| seb128 | I'm curious to know if the gconf database on disk is still correct | 13:55 |
| seb128 | all you describe is that you get no gconf user datas used | 13:56 |
| soren | gconf-editor says: /usr/share/backgrounds/warty-final-ubuntu.png | 13:56 |
| soren | Oh! | 13:56 |
| seb128 | grep .gconf now for the key name | 13:56 |
| soren | The xml file does not. | 13:56 |
| seb128 | ok | 13:56 |
| seb128 | so something nuked your .gconf directory it looks like | 13:57 |
| seb128 | which is really weird | 13:57 |
| soren | -rw------- 1 anne anne 783 2005-11-30 01:41 %gconf.xml | 13:57 |
| seb128 | did you get disk issues? | 13:57 |
| seb128 | hum | 13:57 |
| seb128 | is that .gconf/desktop/gnome/background? | 13:57 |
| seb128 | what does the file contain? | 13:58 |
| soren | Hang on. Pastebinning. | 13:58 |
| soren | http://pastebin.com/m41623f9f | 13:59 |
| soren | but the file referenced in there is not the background she had yesterday. | 13:59 |
| soren | Which adds to the confusion. | 13:59 |
| soren | Oh... hang on. | 13:59 |
| seb128 | and it's not the one used now either? | 13:59 |
| soren | Nope. She still has the default hardy one. | 14:00 |
| soren | $ ls -l /home/anne/.gconf/%gconf-tree.xml | 14:00 |
| soren | -rw------- 1 anne anne 93614 2008-03-25 14:58 /home/anne/.gconf/%gconf-tree.xml | 14:00 |
| seb128 | how old is this installation? | 14:01 |
| seb128 | that looks like a merged gconf tree | 14:01 |
| soren | The oldest kernel still isntalled is the breezy one. | 14:01 |
| seb128 | we did it during edgy unstable I think | 14:02 |
| soren | I *think* it used to have hoary on it, too. | 14:02 |
| seb128 | one your gconf tree is merged this file is used | 14:02 |
| seb128 | so look in this file the background key value | 14:02 |
| soren | It's blank. | 14:02 |
| soren | So that explains why it's using the default one. | 14:02 |
| seb128 | the file or the value? | 14:02 |
| seb128 | the file is not according to your ls | 14:03 |
| soren | The value. Sorry. | 14:03 |
| seb128 | the file is small though | 14:03 |
| seb128 | could you move it out of the way? | 14:03 |
| soren | No, it's not blank. It's missing, apparantly. | 14:03 |
| soren | Erm.. I *could*. | 14:03 |
| seb128 | that's not going to break anything | 14:04 |
| seb128 | you can move it back it'll be used again | 14:04 |
| * Hobbsee wonders how to put exaile in mono-mode | 14:04 | |
| seb128 | restart gconfd-2 between | 14:04 |
| seb128 | it autorespawn when used, easy | 14:04 |
| soren | But seeing as the other xml files are all from 2005, I'm not really fond of the idea. | 14:04 |
| seb128 | soren: ok, well the %gconf-tree.xml is really small | 14:05 |
| seb128 | soren: I would tend to say your version got destroyed and the only changes you have that are the thing you reconfigured since yesterday | 14:05 |
| soren | It's not smaller than the sum of all the other .xml files. | 14:05 |
| seb128 | ok, mine is 1.3meg | 14:05 |
| seb128 | for comparaison | 14:05 |
| soren | !! What? | 14:05 |
| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about what? - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi | 14:05 |
| soren | It's a text file! | 14:05 |
| soren | Dude, what did you put in there? | 14:06 |
| seb128 | soren: no, it's an xml file, and there is lot of things there | 14:06 |
| seb128 | soren: evolution put all the account configurations there for example | 14:06 |
| soren | It still contains network-manager's data. | 14:06 |
| seb128 | you got no disk corruption? | 14:06 |
| soren | Both for VPN and wifi, so it's not been completely reset. | 14:06 |
| soren | Not that I know of. | 14:07 |
| seb128 | k, so I guess we will no figure what happened, nothing in the standard set of package touch the user configuration on upgrade | 14:07 |
| seb128 | and nothing at all should do that | 14:07 |
| seb128 | but something damaged the gconf configure there apparently | 14:07 |
| seb128 | my best guess is some kind of local corruption | 14:07 |
| seb128 | we didn't get any other user question nor bug about similar issues | 14:08 |
| soren | Craptastic. | 14:08 |
| seb128 | and you have different keys which has been changed | 14:08 |
| soren | Ok, what's the current way to store gconf stuff? In the merged file or in separate files? | 14:08 |
| seb128 | background and evolution config have nothing to do with each other | 14:08 |
| seb128 | the user gconf config uses separate files by default | 14:09 |
| seb128 | we did a merged try during one unstable cycle | 14:09 |
| seb128 | I would say edgy but I'm not sure | 14:09 |
| shiyee | soren: maybe theres errors in .xsession-errors on why it failed (long shot)? | 14:09 |
| seb128 | and we reverted because that creates locking issue on nfs | 14:09 |
| seb128 | but once you have a merged config it's used for ever | 14:09 |
| soren | seb128: And there's no way to unmerge it? | 14:10 |
| soren | shiyee: Nothing of particular interest in there. | 14:10 |
| seb128 | not that I know, gconf-merge-tree does the merging, you can look at the logic and revert it | 14:10 |
| seb128 | soren: well, that should work | 14:10 |
| seb128 | (30 seconds) | 14:11 |
| seb128 | use gconftool-2 --dump to dump the whole config somewhere | 14:11 |
| seb128 | move .gconf away | 14:11 |
| seb128 | and use --load to reload from the dump you did | 14:11 |
| seb128 | the first one write all the keys and values | 14:12 |
| seb128 | and the second one will read those | 14:12 |
| seb128 | that's an easy way to backup and restore the base, it should write to the standard splitted xml | 14:12 |
| soren | seb128: Ah, right. Of course. | 14:14 |
| seb128 | soren: so, did it work? | 14:30 |
| * seb128 kicks xulrunner | 14:30 | |
| seb128 | asac: do you need extra details on bug #191052? | 14:31 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 191052 in xulrunner-1.9 "epiphany-gecko crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191052 | 14:31 |
| seb128 | asac: my epiphany browser crashes often, and the stacktrace seems similar to this one | 14:32 |
| * asac looking | 14:32 | |
| asac | seb128: could you shake out a testcase yet? | 14:33 |
| seb128 | no | 14:34 |
| asac | usr/lib/epiphany-gecko/2.21/extensions/libpageinfoextension.so | 14:34 |
| asac | the guy uses that extension | 14:34 |
| asac | do you have that enabled as well? | 14:34 |
| seb128 | are you sure? | 14:34 |
| seb128 | the current comment is an another guy who likely posted on a random bug | 14:34 |
| asac | hmm ... no its antoher guy | 14:34 |
| seb128 | http://launchpadlibrarian.net/11875586/Stacktrace.txt is the crash stracktrace | 14:35 |
| seb128 | it might be on closing | 14:35 |
| asac | seb128: can you run ephy in debugger? maybe it crashes earlier then | 14:35 |
| asac | or valgrind ;) | 14:35 |
| seb128 | hum, valgrind, slooooow | 14:35 |
| asac | but given the pain that might put on you i would suggest to try gdb first | 14:35 |
| seb128 | what information would be interesting? | 14:35 |
| asac | right ;) | 14:35 |
| seb128 | the apport retracing is detailled | 14:36 |
| asac | well ... bad memory access _before_ the crash happens | 14:36 |
| seb128 | I'll not get anything better | 14:36 |
| seb128 | I think it's closing | 14:36 |
| seb128 | the way I work on bug mail is to click on url, reply and close the browse | 14:36 |
| seb128 | so I open and close epiphany a lot | 14:36 |
| seb128 | so it's well possible the crash happens when closing it | 14:36 |
| seb128 | I usually notice because the new one doesn't open when I click on the next bug because it's busy doing apport-ing ;-) | 14:37 |
| soren | seb128: Haven't done it yet. She's working. | 14:43 |
| seb128 | ok | 14:44 |
| seb128 | asac: not sure if that's revelent or the same issue, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6068/ | 14:46 |
| seb128 | pedro_: that's some impressive desktop bugs cleaning you did ;-) | 14:56 |
| * pedro_ hugs seb128 | 14:57 | |
| pedro_ | seb128: i have a page that i want to share that it may help us | 14:57 |
| pedro_ | let me upload it | 14:57 |
| * seb128 hugs pedro_ | 14:58 | |
| seb128 | ok | 14:58 |
| pedro_ | http://www.gnome.org/~pvillavi/desktop-bugs.html | 14:59 |
| pedro_ | i guess i show it to you a few weeks ago but now you can sort the number of bugs | 14:59 |
| pedro_ | so it may help us to determine to which product we need to focus in order to triage them harder | 15:00 |
| pedro_ | i'm also planning to add the "bug with more dups" field soon | 15:00 |
| pedro_ | but it takes a huge quantity of time to get that for all the products we have currently | 15:00 |
| seb128 | launchpad can sort by number of duplicate now | 15:01 |
| seb128 | pedro_: your page is similar to https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/~desktop-bugs/+packagebugs | 15:02 |
| pedro_ | yes it's kinda similar but I've added the other products the desktop-team is working on | 15:03 |
| pedro_ | mm yeah i don't know why bughelper takes so long to search by the bug with more dups on a product | 15:04 |
| * pedro_ kicks bughelper | 15:04 | |
| seb128 | too many bugs :-/ | 15:04 |
| Hobbsee | create some data loss bugs. | 15:04 |
| Hobbsee | problem solved. | 15:04 |
| walters | is keybuk around? | 15:49 |
| seb128 | he's on holidays this week | 15:51 |
| seb128 | anything urgent? | 15:51 |
| walters | nah, not urgent; i'll just mail him | 15:52 |
| seb128 | ok | 15:52 |
| seb128 | asac: did you look to the valgrind error? do you want that in a bug? | 15:58 |
| asac | seb128: i looked, who did you obtain it? | 15:59 |
| asac | s/who/how/ | 15:59 |
| seb128 | asac: valgrind some_options epiphany-browser http://launchpad.net, waited to get the page loaded, ctrl-W | 16:01 |
| seb128 | asac: basically opened and closed epiphany when no other instance was running | 16:01 |
| asac | attaching that info looks good. i have to check the code to see whats going on | 16:02 |
| seb128 | asac: do you want it to the other bug or to a new one rather? | 16:02 |
| asac | i have the feeling its the broken pyxpcom thing in xul that dumps that info | 16:03 |
| asac | seb128: please open a new, and put the bug id as a comment into the original one | 16:03 |
| seb128 | ok | 16:03 |
| asac | seb128: btw, do you still have issues with iwl4965? | 18:25 |
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| asac | pedro_: would be great if you could prod me about a network manager hug day next time :) | 20:07 |
| asac | i certainly can provide valuable input ;) | 20:07 |
| pedro_ | asac: sure, no problem ;-) | 20:14 |
| pedro_ | dinner time, see you later | 20:15 |
| crevette_ | seb128: I don't have splash screen for 2 weeks; something happened ? | 21:39 |
| crevette_ | where should I look at ? | 21:39 |
| crevette_ | my grub is not set to run quiet | 21:40 |
| seb128 | crevette_: no idea, it's working for me and for other people, it would have been noticed in beta otherwise | 21:40 |
| crevette_ | okay | 21:40 |
| crevette_ | last day I discovered I hadn't gnome-screensaver for awhile :) | 21:40 |
| seb128 | you like to break everything apparently ;-) | 21:41 |
| crevette_ | ubuntu updates are like to break everything | 21:42 |
| crevette_ | :) | 21:42 |
| seb128 | not really no ;-) | 21:42 |
| crevette_ | I have usplash | 21:42 |
| crevette_ | okay | 21:42 |
| kwwii | seb128: do you know anything about bug #144826 ? | 21:54 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 144826 in human-icon-theme "Regression: Human icon set includes out of place GNOME icons" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/144826 | 21:54 |
| kwwii | it is about the names of the device icons | 21:54 |
| kwwii | if you can confirm that the devices are named as that bug explains I'll change them (I have a couple of other changes ready for hit anyway) | 21:55 |
| seb128 | one sec | 21:55 |
| seb128 | I'm looking for the changelog commit about those changes | 21:55 |
| seb128 | kwwii: http://svn.gnome.org/viewvc/nautilus?view=revision&revision=13646 | 21:57 |
| seb128 | kwwii: http://svn.gnome.org/viewvc/nautilus/trunk/libnautilus-private/nautilus-icon-names.h?revision=13646&view=markup&pathrev=13646 | 21:59 |
| kwwii | seb128: hehe, looks like I have more to do than I thought ;-) | 22:00 |
| kwwii | I'll rename the icons, add the new OOo menu icons I made and do a couple of other changes, make a package and ping you tomorrow | 22:00 |
| seb128 | kwwii: wait, I'm searching the devices ones | 22:00 |
| awalton__ | seb128, they're in bugzilla and they're filed against gnome-icon-theme I think | 22:01 |
| kwwii | it seems like lots of things changed...I wonder if we really have all those changes already or if only some are in our tree | 22:01 |
| seb128 | kwwii: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=506532 | 22:01 |
| seb128 | awalton__: thanks | 22:01 |
| ubotu | Gnome bug 506532 in general "icons needed for gvfs" [Normal,New] | 22:01 |
| seb128 | kwwii: everything is in hardy, those changes were the nautilus gvfs one, they landed before GNOME 2.22 | 22:02 |
| awalton__ | seb128, np. | 22:02 |
| kwwii | seb128: so will we need both names, if this is just for nautilus? | 22:02 |
| seb128 | kwwii: right, having symlinks to the other names would be better | 22:03 |
| seb128 | kwwii: that's a bunch of symlinks to add, no? | 22:04 |
| kwwii | seb128: yepp, shouldn't be too hard ;-) | 22:04 |
| kwwii | at least it won't make the package any bigger really | 22:04 |
| seb128 | right | 22:04 |
| seb128 | be careful there or pitti will find you ;-) | 22:04 |
| kwwii | I am removing two 16x16 gpm icons as well (to fix a bug in the inhibit applet) | 22:05 |
| kwwii | hehe, no doubt | 22:06 |
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