=== ember_ is now known as ember [08:54] seb128: hi :) could you sync gst-plugins-base0.10 0.10.18-3 from incoming? :) [08:55] hey slomo [08:55] will do in a bit [08:55] ok :) [08:56] did we have some reports that the totem-mozilla plugin doesn't work good anymore since gstreamer 0.10.18? [08:56] seb128: Had a good Easter? [08:56] lool: yes, too short but good ;-) What about you? [08:56] slomo: not that I know, no, why? [08:57] seb128: because it was broken until my gstreamer0.10 upload some seconds ago :) simply stopped playing very often for no good reason [08:57] seb128: Fine here too [08:57] do we have a freeze for NEW packages? [08:57] ah ok, I guess not so many people use it in the web browser [08:58] if we have no freeze for NEW packages i'd like to have tangerine synced :) [08:59] I'm not sure now [08:59] pitti: hey [08:59] pitti: ^ do we have a freeze for new universe packages? [09:08] *stretch* [09:11] seb128: and please sync banshee 0.13.2+dfsg-9 :) [09:19] seb128: ok, to summarize: banshee 0.13.2+dfsg-9, gst-plugins-base0.10 0.10.18-3 from incoming and tangerine from the pool if we can still get NEW packages in ;) [09:19] alright [09:19] hey MacSlow [09:19] that's all from me for today i guess :) [09:20] moring seb128 [09:20] morning slomo [09:20] hey huats [09:20] hi huats :) [09:21] :) [09:21] Salut seb128, ca va bien? [09:22] MacSlow: très bien, et toi ? ;-) [09:24] seb128, je suis bien aussi, merci! [09:24] so much for my french [09:44] * crevette raises the French flag over the #u-desktop chan [10:03] lut crevette [10:14] seb128: Hmm can you please sync libmatchbox/1.9-3 [10:15] seb128: It adds pango support which we need for mobile (for chinese chars) [10:15] ok [10:16] Thanks [10:16] #202329 [10:16] salut huats [10:31] bug #202329 [10:31] Launchpad bug 202329 in libmatchbox "Unable to render multibyte window titles" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/202329 [10:32] slomo, lool: banshee, gst-plugins-base0.10, libmatchbox synced [10:40] seb128: thanks :) [10:41] seb128: Thanks [10:45] seb128: universe freeze> just normal feature freeze [10:45] pitti: ok, so no new packages there without exception [10:45] hey pitti ;-) [10:45] seb128: exactly [10:45] * pitti hugs seb128, bonjour [10:46] * seb128 hugs pitti, guten tag ;-) [10:47] ok :) [10:47] then let's get tangerine ;) [10:54] slomo: you need a freeze exception [10:54] oh [10:54] right, i misread it, sorry [10:55] well, maybe later then [11:03] seb128: nevermind, wiki tells me that NEW packages for universe are only considered until beta freeze [11:09] seb128: doing kwwii's u-gdm-themes sponsoring now === asac_ is now known as asac [11:09] pitti: ok [11:09] + * Updated the gdm theme to fix a bug (LP: 202193) [11:10] kwwii: ^ just for next time: LP: #202193, and the bug description could be a bit more verbose :) [11:10] * pitti hugs kwwii [11:12] * pitti munges changelog to [11:12] * Updated the gdm theme to fix placement of "incorrect password" error [11:12] message (LP: #202193) [11:37] seb128: hm, maybe sync swfdec-mozilla, swfdec-gnome and swfdec0.6 :) it's part of gnome 2.22 [11:38] slomo: swfdec is no, only -gnome, but yeah, I would like to get those uptodate in hardy [11:38] I've been too busy with other things though [11:39] I think for the good form somebody should get an uvf exception [11:39] seb128: right, only -gnome but -gnome depends on swfdec0.6 and old swfdec-mozilla won't work anymore from what i see ;) [11:39] so this does need uvf exception? *sigh* [11:40] or slangasek or pitti approval [11:40] ok, later then... [11:40] bbl [11:40] I've looked at it, but there is a transition involved since the binary naming changed [12:53] pitti: I realize now that the increase in file size was the human list theme changes [12:53] pitti: I will look into removing any extra files the author left in [13:05] Pitti: Here is an updated source package (includes the changes Mark wants on gdm as well as removing some files from HumanList [13:05] http://sinecera.de/ubuntu-gdm-themes_0.28.dsc [13:05] http://sinecera.de/ubuntu-gdm-themes_0.28_source.build [13:05] http://sinecera.de/ubuntu-gdm-themes_0.28_source.changes [13:05] http://sinecera.de/ubuntu-gdm-themes_0.28.tar.gz [13:11] kwwii: ah, thanks; why 28? I uploaded 26 before AFAIR? [13:11] pitti: fear of cubes. === ember_ is now known as ember [13:37] pitti: well, I changed it twice so each time I bumped a number [13:37] pitti: it does not have to be that way though :-) [13:38] my rule is to bump it up a number each time I commit ;-) [13:44] I just upgraded my wife's laptop to hardy. Starting evolution I'm being asked to restore from a backup. I didn't make one, so I chose "Next". Now I need to configure evolution all over again. Is that expected? [13:47] soren: no [13:47] soren: did you keep the user directory? [13:47] soren: it should ask no question at all, if you get the backport question it handle it as a first start [13:48] seb128: Sure, I used update-manager to do the upgrade. [13:48] soren: that's very weird [13:49] soren: is gconf working correctly? [13:49] I see it running. [13:50] Started 40 minutes ago, which is consistent with login time. [13:50] can you browse apps, evolution in gconf-editor? [13:50] I had a gnome-terminal profile set up on her box which was lost as well. [13:50] are you sure you are logged using the correct user?! === walters_ is now known as walters [13:51] seb128: Yes, but I just set up evolution again, so that's not really surprising. I wish I could have kept it for debugging, but my wife needed it for work :/ [13:51] did you have other things customized? the gnome-panel layouts, background image, etc? [13:51] Heh.. Yes, it's the only (non-system) user on the machine. [13:51] are those still correct? [13:52] Nope. [13:52] But. [13:52] I pointed my wife at the upgrade instructions. They said to make sure the current system was completely up-to-date. [13:52] ...after bringing the gutsy system up-to-date, her background was reset to the default gutsy one. [13:53] there is something weird going on there [13:53] did you fix that too? [13:54] fix it? No, I just shrugged. :) [13:54] I didn't think much of it at the time (it was quite late last night). [13:54] In retrospect, I probably should have, but here we are. [13:54] well, is the background still broken? [13:54] It's the default hardy one now. [13:54] (With the heron and all that) [13:54] in which case, open gconf-editor, go to desktop, gnome, background [13:54] and look at the value here [13:55] then .gconf [13:55] and grep for the key name [13:55] and look at the values in the .xml [13:55] then .gconf -> then cd .gconf [13:55] I'm curious to know if the gconf database on disk is still correct [13:56] all you describe is that you get no gconf user datas used [13:56] gconf-editor says: /usr/share/backgrounds/warty-final-ubuntu.png [13:56] Oh! [13:56] grep .gconf now for the key name [13:56] The xml file does not. [13:56] ok [13:57] so something nuked your .gconf directory it looks like [13:57] which is really weird [13:57] -rw------- 1 anne anne 783 2005-11-30 01:41 %gconf.xml [13:57] did you get disk issues? [13:57] hum [13:57] is that .gconf/desktop/gnome/background? [13:58] what does the file contain? [13:58] Hang on. Pastebinning. [13:59] http://pastebin.com/m41623f9f [13:59] but the file referenced in there is not the background she had yesterday. [13:59] Which adds to the confusion. [13:59] Oh... hang on. [13:59] and it's not the one used now either? [14:00] Nope. She still has the default hardy one. [14:00] $ ls -l /home/anne/.gconf/%gconf-tree.xml [14:00] -rw------- 1 anne anne 93614 2008-03-25 14:58 /home/anne/.gconf/%gconf-tree.xml [14:01] how old is this installation? [14:01] that looks like a merged gconf tree [14:01] The oldest kernel still isntalled is the breezy one. [14:02] we did it during edgy unstable I think [14:02] I *think* it used to have hoary on it, too. [14:02] one your gconf tree is merged this file is used [14:02] so look in this file the background key value [14:02] It's blank. [14:02] So that explains why it's using the default one. [14:02] the file or the value? [14:03] the file is not according to your ls [14:03] The value. Sorry. [14:03] the file is small though [14:03] could you move it out of the way? [14:03] No, it's not blank. It's missing, apparantly. [14:03] Erm.. I *could*. [14:04] that's not going to break anything [14:04] you can move it back it'll be used again [14:04] * Hobbsee wonders how to put exaile in mono-mode [14:04] restart gconfd-2 between [14:04] it autorespawn when used, easy [14:04] But seeing as the other xml files are all from 2005, I'm not really fond of the idea. [14:05] soren: ok, well the %gconf-tree.xml is really small [14:05] soren: I would tend to say your version got destroyed and the only changes you have that are the thing you reconfigured since yesterday [14:05] It's not smaller than the sum of all the other .xml files. [14:05] ok, mine is 1.3meg [14:05] for comparaison [14:05] !! What? [14:05] Sorry, I don't know anything about what? - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [14:05] It's a text file! [14:06] Dude, what did you put in there? [14:06] soren: no, it's an xml file, and there is lot of things there [14:06] soren: evolution put all the account configurations there for example [14:06] It still contains network-manager's data. [14:06] you got no disk corruption? [14:06] Both for VPN and wifi, so it's not been completely reset. [14:07] Not that I know of. [14:07] k, so I guess we will no figure what happened, nothing in the standard set of package touch the user configuration on upgrade [14:07] and nothing at all should do that [14:07] but something damaged the gconf configure there apparently [14:07] my best guess is some kind of local corruption [14:08] we didn't get any other user question nor bug about similar issues [14:08] Craptastic. [14:08] and you have different keys which has been changed [14:08] Ok, what's the current way to store gconf stuff? In the merged file or in separate files? [14:08] background and evolution config have nothing to do with each other [14:09] the user gconf config uses separate files by default [14:09] we did a merged try during one unstable cycle [14:09] I would say edgy but I'm not sure [14:09] soren: maybe theres errors in .xsession-errors on why it failed (long shot)? [14:09] and we reverted because that creates locking issue on nfs [14:09] but once you have a merged config it's used for ever [14:10] seb128: And there's no way to unmerge it? [14:10] shiyee: Nothing of particular interest in there. [14:10] not that I know, gconf-merge-tree does the merging, you can look at the logic and revert it [14:10] soren: well, that should work [14:11] (30 seconds) [14:11] use gconftool-2 --dump to dump the whole config somewhere [14:11] move .gconf away [14:11] and use --load to reload from the dump you did [14:12] the first one write all the keys and values [14:12] and the second one will read those [14:12] that's an easy way to backup and restore the base, it should write to the standard splitted xml [14:14] seb128: Ah, right. Of course. [14:30] soren: so, did it work? [14:30] * seb128 kicks xulrunner [14:31] asac: do you need extra details on bug #191052? [14:31] Launchpad bug 191052 in xulrunner-1.9 "epiphany-gecko crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191052 [14:32] asac: my epiphany browser crashes often, and the stacktrace seems similar to this one [14:32] * asac looking [14:33] seb128: could you shake out a testcase yet? [14:34] no [14:34] usr/lib/epiphany-gecko/2.21/extensions/libpageinfoextension.so [14:34] the guy uses that extension [14:34] do you have that enabled as well? [14:34] are you sure? [14:34] the current comment is an another guy who likely posted on a random bug [14:34] hmm ... no its antoher guy [14:35] http://launchpadlibrarian.net/11875586/Stacktrace.txt is the crash stracktrace [14:35] it might be on closing [14:35] seb128: can you run ephy in debugger? maybe it crashes earlier then [14:35] or valgrind ;) [14:35] hum, valgrind, slooooow [14:35] but given the pain that might put on you i would suggest to try gdb first [14:35] what information would be interesting? [14:35] right ;) [14:36] the apport retracing is detailled [14:36] well ... bad memory access _before_ the crash happens [14:36] I'll not get anything better [14:36] I think it's closing [14:36] the way I work on bug mail is to click on url, reply and close the browse [14:36] so I open and close epiphany a lot [14:36] so it's well possible the crash happens when closing it [14:37] I usually notice because the new one doesn't open when I click on the next bug because it's busy doing apport-ing ;-) [14:43] seb128: Haven't done it yet. She's working. [14:44] ok [14:46] asac: not sure if that's revelent or the same issue, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6068/ [14:56] pedro_: that's some impressive desktop bugs cleaning you did ;-) [14:57] * pedro_ hugs seb128 [14:57] seb128: i have a page that i want to share that it may help us [14:57] let me upload it [14:58] * seb128 hugs pedro_ [14:58] ok [14:59] http://www.gnome.org/~pvillavi/desktop-bugs.html [14:59] i guess i show it to you a few weeks ago but now you can sort the number of bugs [15:00] so it may help us to determine to which product we need to focus in order to triage them harder [15:00] i'm also planning to add the "bug with more dups" field soon [15:00] but it takes a huge quantity of time to get that for all the products we have currently [15:01] launchpad can sort by number of duplicate now [15:02] pedro_: your page is similar to https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/~desktop-bugs/+packagebugs [15:03] yes it's kinda similar but I've added the other products the desktop-team is working on [15:04] mm yeah i don't know why bughelper takes so long to search by the bug with more dups on a product [15:04] * pedro_ kicks bughelper [15:04] too many bugs :-/ [15:04] create some data loss bugs. [15:04] problem solved. [15:49] is keybuk around? [15:51] he's on holidays this week [15:51] anything urgent? [15:52] nah, not urgent; i'll just mail him [15:52] ok [15:58] asac: did you look to the valgrind error? do you want that in a bug? [15:59] seb128: i looked, who did you obtain it? [15:59] s/who/how/ [16:01] asac: valgrind some_options epiphany-browser http://launchpad.net, waited to get the page loaded, ctrl-W [16:01] asac: basically opened and closed epiphany when no other instance was running [16:02] attaching that info looks good. i have to check the code to see whats going on [16:02] asac: do you want it to the other bug or to a new one rather? [16:03] i have the feeling its the broken pyxpcom thing in xul that dumps that info [16:03] seb128: please open a new, and put the bug id as a comment into the original one [16:03] ok [18:25] seb128: btw, do you still have issues with iwl4965? === fta_ is now known as fta [20:07] pedro_: would be great if you could prod me about a network manager hug day next time :) [20:07] i certainly can provide valuable input ;) [20:14] asac: sure, no problem ;-) [20:15] dinner time, see you later [21:39] seb128: I don't have splash screen for 2 weeks; something happened ? [21:39] where should I look at ? [21:40] my grub is not set to run quiet [21:40] crevette_: no idea, it's working for me and for other people, it would have been noticed in beta otherwise [21:40] okay [21:40] last day I discovered I hadn't gnome-screensaver for awhile :) [21:41] you like to break everything apparently ;-) [21:42] ubuntu updates are like to break everything [21:42] :) [21:42] not really no ;-) [21:42] I have usplash [21:42] okay [21:54] seb128: do you know anything about bug #144826 ? [21:54] Launchpad bug 144826 in human-icon-theme "Regression: Human icon set includes out of place GNOME icons" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/144826 [21:54] it is about the names of the device icons [21:55] if you can confirm that the devices are named as that bug explains I'll change them (I have a couple of other changes ready for hit anyway) [21:55] one sec [21:55] I'm looking for the changelog commit about those changes [21:57] kwwii: http://svn.gnome.org/viewvc/nautilus?view=revision&revision=13646 [21:59] kwwii: http://svn.gnome.org/viewvc/nautilus/trunk/libnautilus-private/nautilus-icon-names.h?revision=13646&view=markup&pathrev=13646 [22:00] seb128: hehe, looks like I have more to do than I thought ;-) [22:00] I'll rename the icons, add the new OOo menu icons I made and do a couple of other changes, make a package and ping you tomorrow [22:00] kwwii: wait, I'm searching the devices ones [22:01] seb128, they're in bugzilla and they're filed against gnome-icon-theme I think [22:01] it seems like lots of things changed...I wonder if we really have all those changes already or if only some are in our tree [22:01] kwwii: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=506532 [22:01] awalton__: thanks [22:01] Gnome bug 506532 in general "icons needed for gvfs" [Normal,New] [22:02] kwwii: everything is in hardy, those changes were the nautilus gvfs one, they landed before GNOME 2.22 [22:02] seb128, np. [22:02] seb128: so will we need both names, if this is just for nautilus? [22:03] kwwii: right, having symlinks to the other names would be better [22:04] kwwii: that's a bunch of symlinks to add, no? [22:04] seb128: yepp, shouldn't be too hard ;-) [22:04] at least it won't make the package any bigger really [22:04] right [22:04] be careful there or pitti will find you ;-) [22:05] I am removing two 16x16 gpm icons as well (to fix a bug in the inhibit applet) [22:06] hehe, no doubt