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| BenC | Good morning kernel folks | 11:21 |
| cking | Morning BenC | 11:27 |
| amitk | Morning BenC | 11:27 |
| tjaalton | BenC: hey, could you drop the commit mentioned on bug 197929? | 12:06 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 197929 in linux "Backlight adjustment no longer works on Thinkpad X61s" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/197929 | 12:06 |
| BenC | tjaalton: We have a fix in git for that, I believe | 12:08 |
| tjaalton | BenC: oh cool | 12:08 |
| BenC | mjg59: The backlight patch you sent to kernel-team@ a few days ago, does it fix 197929? | 12:09 |
| mjg59 | No | 12:11 |
| mjg59 | Completey unrelated. The one mentioned in 197929 should be reverted. | 12:12 |
| BenC | mjg59: Ok, thanks | 12:13 |
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| mjg59 | BenC: Based on the comment that #201591 is causing freezes when changing to X, I think we want that for hardy | 13:16 |
| mjg59 | BenC: If another l-u-m upload is going to happen, #147087 would be nice to fix instead of having to direct people to some wiki page | 13:29 |
| BenC | mjg59: 201591 is already milestoned for release | 13:32 |
| buttterz | morning | 13:32 |
| BenC | mjg59: Added 147087 | 13:33 |
| mjg59 | BenC: Thanks | 13:33 |
| BenC | amitk, smb: These are the bugs we should be looking at (filter to the ones assigned to kernel team) https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+milestone/ubuntu-8.04 | 13:36 |
| smb | BenC: ok | 13:37 |
| buttterz | hello, i am interested in helping on the kernel side of the house -- i'm new to ubuntu and have read some of your documentation concerning contributions -- any recommendations | 13:40 |
| BenC | buttterz: The URL I pasted above is most interesting at this point | 13:41 |
| buttterz | BenC , i figured as much :) so i was going to look into that anyways for giggles | 13:41 |
| BenC | hmm, I'm not sure what to do with this ralink driver problem | 13:43 |
| BenC | disabling the in-kernel drivers and moving the serial monkey stuff to lum seems like the right approach | 13:44 |
| buttterz | BenC , there has also been a few rumblings about wireless in +1 | 13:47 |
| buttterz | i was considering looking into that today -- i'm off for the week so i have some time | 13:47 |
| BenC | in +1? | 13:48 |
| buttterz | the testing channel | 13:48 |
| buttterz | for heron | 13:48 |
| tjaalton | hmm, something between -8 -> -10 broke hibernate on thinkpad X61, the laptop is not powered off | 14:55 |
| buttterz | tjaalton , i heard that too -- my buddy has been working on that because he has one i have a toughbook though so its not been an issue | 14:58 |
| tjaalton | buttterz: cool.. the hibernation itself works, ie. it resumes correctly etc | 14:59 |
| buttterz | but you are referring to the physical state of the machine correct? | 14:59 |
| tjaalton | yes | 15:00 |
| mjg59 | tjaalton: And it works if you revert to -8? | 15:01 |
| tjaalton | mjg59: yes. I wonder if the drm changes broke it | 15:01 |
| tjaalton | I don't have -9 around | 15:02 |
| mjg59 | Hm. Possible. Easiest way to tell would be to move i915 out of the way | 15:02 |
| tjaalton | cool, I'll try | 15:02 |
| mjg59 | X will start without it, and that avoids DRM being an issue | 15:02 |
| tjaalton | yep, that did it | 15:08 |
| mjg59 | Ok, cool | 15:09 |
| mjg59 | Can you boot with the kernel option no_console_suspend | 15:09 |
| mjg59 | And without quiet | 15:09 |
| mjg59 | And see whether you get any interesting kernel output when it hangs? | 15:10 |
| smb | BenC: call? | 15:10 |
| tjaalton | mjg59: sure, one sec | 15:11 |
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| tjaalton | mjg59: 2x "[ xxx ] drm_sysfs_suspend" is all I see | 15:18 |
| tjaalton | hmm, seems that bug 197064 is related | 15:20 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 197064 in linux "Hibernate fails on Centrino-laptop" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/197064 | 15:20 |
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| mjg59 | tjaalton: Hm. Ok, interesting. Is the machine hard frozen at that point? | 15:29 |
| tjaalton | yep, feels like it | 15:30 |
| mjg59 | tjaalton: Ah, hang on. Might have something | 15:31 |
| tjaalton | also, there's a patch upstream: http://lkml.org/lkml/2008/2/23/269 | 15:31 |
| mjg59 | Yeah, that's what I was just looking at | 15:31 |
| mjg59 | Could you give it a go with that? | 15:33 |
| tjaalton | yeah, I'll build a new kernel from git | 15:33 |
| mjg59 | Sweet | 15:33 |
| BenC | tjaalton, mjg59: if that works, I'll target it for release | 15:34 |
| johanbr | Is there any chance the one-line patch from bug #39414 could be applied? Without it, headsets will be unusable for many people. | 15:35 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 39414 in linux-source-2.6.15 "syslog is flooded with messages after connecting bluetooth usb dongle" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/39414 | 15:35 |
| BenC | johanbr: For dapper or hardy? | 15:36 |
| johanbr | Hardy. | 15:36 |
| alex_joni | sounds assigned wrong (2.6.15..) | 15:36 |
| BenC | johanbr: That patch looks a little scary | 15:37 |
| BenC | johanbr: Is that in upstream kernel? | 15:37 |
| johanbr | Really? It's just a one-liner that turns off eSCO. | 15:37 |
| BenC | johanbr: it hardcodes SCO_LINK for everything, which to me is pretty scary :) | 15:38 |
| johanbr | No, it's not upstream yet. Marcel Holtmann had a patch, but the fix is buggy. No proper fix exists. | 15:38 |
| BenC | if there isn't a proper fix, I don't want to apply one that may be buggier than the original code | 15:38 |
| mjg59 | BenC: It's disabling a feature which is buggy | 15:39 |
| johanbr | Right now, SCO does not work at all when talking to devices without eSCO support. I can't see how the patch could be buggier than that. | 15:39 |
| BenC | mayeb I'd feel better if I knew the difference between SCO/ESCO | 15:39 |
| mjg59 | So the choice is really whether we support the buggy feature, or disable it | 15:39 |
| BenC | do ESCO devices support being used as SCO-only? | 15:40 |
| johanbr | Basically, eSCO allows retransmission of lost packets. | 15:40 |
| mjg59 | Yes, esco is supposed to be backwards compatible | 15:40 |
| BenC | ah, then that's less scary | 15:40 |
| johanbr | BenC: There is also another patch in the bug that reverts the state to exactly what was there before, if you prefer that. | 15:40 |
| BenC | the one-liner is preferred at this point (beta/release) | 15:41 |
| johanbr | See also http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9871 | 15:41 |
| ubotu | bugzilla.kernel.org bug 9871 in Network "hci0 SCO packet for unknown connection handle 1" [Normal,New] | 15:41 |
| BenC | marked for release now | 15:41 |
| johanbr | Wonderful. Thank you. | 15:42 |
| elmargol | Hi, BenC do you have a minute? | 15:54 |
| elmargol | You changes bug #183928 to fix commited... somehow I don't see how you fixed this :/ | 15:55 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 183928 in network-manager "update iwlwifi to latest version" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/183928 | 15:55 |
| BenC | elmargol: How do you now see how I updated iwlwifi to the latest version? | 15:59 |
| BenC | *not | 15:59 |
| elmargol | BenC: last version is from 03/11 | 16:00 |
| BenC | elmargol: Latest iwlwifi is 1.2.25 from 02/04 | 16:01 |
| BenC | amitk, cking, smb: ping | 16:12 |
| smb | BenC: ack | 16:12 |
| amitk | ack | 16:15 |
| BenC | Well, let's get started | 16:19 |
| smb | ok | 16:19 |
| BenC | Not much to discuss other than wanted to make sure we focus on release milestoned bugs at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+milestone/ubuntu-8.04 | 16:19 |
| BenC | Final kernel upload is scheduled for 4-7/4-10, but I think we want to make sure to hit that on the early side (that's the latest) | 16:21 |
| BenC | smb, amitk: Anything you've come across that you think is extremely important for release? | 16:21 |
| BenC | mjg59: Same question for you ^^ | 16:22 |
| mjg59 | Nothing further I'm aware of | 16:22 |
| BenC | So far, all the bugs I've seen are "let's try to get it fixed for release", but none should really hold up the release | 16:22 |
| smb | BenC: Nothing in that category. | 16:22 |
| amitk | BenC: bug 197929, haven't had a chance to revert the patch though | 16:22 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 197929 in linux "Backlight adjustment no longer works on Thinkpad X61s" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/197929 | 16:22 |
| BenC | amitk: Right, that one is milestoned for release, so should be on the list | 16:23 |
| BenC | 197929 seems to be the most important | 16:24 |
| BenC | anyone had a chance to look at ralink wireless drivers yet? | 16:24 |
| smb | The fix (but thats sauce) to 140511 might be "nice to have" and it should not be intrusive | 16:24 |
| smb | no not yet | 16:24 |
| BenC | bug #140511 | 16:25 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 140511 in linux "Belkin USB bluetooth device loads wrong module" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/140511 | 16:25 |
| BenC | smb: If you think it's could be done for release, and is warranted, milestone it | 16:26 |
| smb | BenC: ok | 16:27 |
| BenC | Ok, anything else from anyone? | 16:27 |
| BenC | Great, thanks everyone | 16:29 |
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| tjaalton | BenC, mjg59: the patch worked fine, my laptop powers down again when hibernating :) | 18:58 |
| tjaalton | I wanted to try the wlan-led patch as well, but that should be applied on top of lum? | 19:07 |
| mjg59 | tjaalton: Sweet. Can you attach it to the bug if it's not there already? | 19:16 |
| tjaalton | mjg59: sure | 19:17 |
| mjg59 | tjaalton: Winning, thanks | 19:19 |
| tjaalton | that commit was already mentioned, but it needs a patch to fix a compile error | 19:21 |
| JanC | hm, do I understand correctly that Ralink wireless is finally supposed to be fixed after 4 years ? or will it only be "less bad" in hardy ? | 22:00 |
| buttterz | hey all, is there a real reason we don't supply seperatly patched kernels? say prepatches and andrew morton patches -- i know this is a release base OS but as an option? | 22:06 |
| adinc | is someone involved to the bug 185470 regarding the iwl3945 kernel module for intels wireless 3945 device ? | 22:10 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 185470 in linux "iwl3945 not functioning : microcode error" [Unknown,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185470 | 22:10 |
| adinc | there are many some people using this device, specially with notebooks, since hardy comes with this kernel module and has problems with microcode SW error i would like to ask if this can be expected to be solved with the release of hardy? | 22:12 |
| tjaalton | adinc: you mentioned that you are willing to test any fixes if needed, so add those upstream patches to the current version and build it. the wiki-page has all the instructions | 22:14 |
| adinc | yes | 22:14 |
| adinc | i'm new to ubuntu, if you can point me to the said wiki page i can do the testing | 22:15 |
| adinc | and which patches are we talking about? | 22:16 |
| tjaalton | adinc: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/GitKernelBuild | 22:16 |
| tjaalton | adinc: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/185470/comments/25 | 22:16 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 185470 in linux "iwl3945 not functioning : microcode error" [Unknown,In progress] | 22:16 |
| adinc | tjaalton: i see, but i'm not familiar with the term upstream patch | 22:17 |
| tjaalton | adinc: ok, in that case just wait for someone to test it | 22:17 |
| adinc | tjaalton: but this can not be that complicated, aren't there patches available? applying the patches and compiling it is not that difficult | 22:18 |
| tjaalton | adinc: you'd need to dig them up from git.kernel.org | 22:19 |
| adinc | ok | 22:19 |
| adinc | with upstream patch, you were trying to say patches from the developer below ubuntu, the kernel patches | 22:20 |
| adinc | ok, thank you very much so far | 22:20 |
| tjaalton | ah, right | 22:21 |
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