=== lamont` is now known as lamont [08:38] moin === \sh_away is now known as \sh === asac_ is now known as asac [11:21] Good morning kernel folks [11:27] Morning BenC [11:27] Morning BenC [12:06] BenC: hey, could you drop the commit mentioned on bug 197929? [12:06] Launchpad bug 197929 in linux "Backlight adjustment no longer works on Thinkpad X61s" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/197929 [12:08] tjaalton: We have a fix in git for that, I believe [12:08] BenC: oh cool [12:09] mjg59: The backlight patch you sent to kernel-team@ a few days ago, does it fix 197929? [12:11] No [12:12] Completey unrelated. The one mentioned in 197929 should be reverted. [12:13] mjg59: Ok, thanks === chuck_ is now known as zul [13:16] BenC: Based on the comment that #201591 is causing freezes when changing to X, I think we want that for hardy [13:29] BenC: If another l-u-m upload is going to happen, #147087 would be nice to fix instead of having to direct people to some wiki page [13:32] mjg59: 201591 is already milestoned for release [13:32] morning [13:33] mjg59: Added 147087 [13:33] BenC: Thanks [13:36] amitk, smb: These are the bugs we should be looking at (filter to the ones assigned to kernel team) https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+milestone/ubuntu-8.04 [13:37] BenC: ok [13:40] hello, i am interested in helping on the kernel side of the house -- i'm new to ubuntu and have read some of your documentation concerning contributions -- any recommendations [13:41] buttterz: The URL I pasted above is most interesting at this point [13:41] BenC , i figured as much :) so i was going to look into that anyways for giggles [13:43] hmm, I'm not sure what to do with this ralink driver problem [13:44] disabling the in-kernel drivers and moving the serial monkey stuff to lum seems like the right approach [13:47] BenC , there has also been a few rumblings about wireless in +1 [13:47] i was considering looking into that today -- i'm off for the week so i have some time [13:48] in +1? [13:48] the testing channel [13:48] for heron [14:55] hmm, something between -8 -> -10 broke hibernate on thinkpad X61, the laptop is not powered off [14:58] tjaalton , i heard that too -- my buddy has been working on that because he has one i have a toughbook though so its not been an issue [14:59] buttterz: cool.. the hibernation itself works, ie. it resumes correctly etc [14:59] but you are referring to the physical state of the machine correct? [15:00] yes [15:01] tjaalton: And it works if you revert to -8? [15:01] mjg59: yes. I wonder if the drm changes broke it [15:02] I don't have -9 around [15:02] Hm. Possible. Easiest way to tell would be to move i915 out of the way [15:02] cool, I'll try [15:02] X will start without it, and that avoids DRM being an issue [15:08] yep, that did it [15:09] Ok, cool [15:09] Can you boot with the kernel option no_console_suspend [15:09] And without quiet [15:10] And see whether you get any interesting kernel output when it hangs? [15:10] BenC: call? [15:11] mjg59: sure, one sec === \sh is now known as \sh_away [15:18] mjg59: 2x "[ xxx ] drm_sysfs_suspend" is all I see [15:20] hmm, seems that bug 197064 is related [15:20] Launchpad bug 197064 in linux "Hibernate fails on Centrino-laptop" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/197064 === \sh_away is now known as \sh [15:29] tjaalton: Hm. Ok, interesting. Is the machine hard frozen at that point? [15:30] yep, feels like it [15:31] tjaalton: Ah, hang on. Might have something [15:31] also, there's a patch upstream: http://lkml.org/lkml/2008/2/23/269 [15:31] Yeah, that's what I was just looking at [15:33] Could you give it a go with that? [15:33] yeah, I'll build a new kernel from git [15:33] Sweet [15:34] tjaalton, mjg59: if that works, I'll target it for release [15:35] Is there any chance the one-line patch from bug #39414 could be applied? Without it, headsets will be unusable for many people. [15:35] Launchpad bug 39414 in linux-source-2.6.15 "syslog is flooded with messages after connecting bluetooth usb dongle" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/39414 [15:36] johanbr: For dapper or hardy? [15:36] Hardy. [15:36] sounds assigned wrong (2.6.15..) [15:37] johanbr: That patch looks a little scary [15:37] johanbr: Is that in upstream kernel? [15:37] Really? It's just a one-liner that turns off eSCO. [15:38] johanbr: it hardcodes SCO_LINK for everything, which to me is pretty scary :) [15:38] No, it's not upstream yet. Marcel Holtmann had a patch, but the fix is buggy. No proper fix exists. [15:38] if there isn't a proper fix, I don't want to apply one that may be buggier than the original code [15:39] BenC: It's disabling a feature which is buggy [15:39] Right now, SCO does not work at all when talking to devices without eSCO support. I can't see how the patch could be buggier than that. [15:39] mayeb I'd feel better if I knew the difference between SCO/ESCO [15:39] So the choice is really whether we support the buggy feature, or disable it [15:40] do ESCO devices support being used as SCO-only? [15:40] Basically, eSCO allows retransmission of lost packets. [15:40] Yes, esco is supposed to be backwards compatible [15:40] ah, then that's less scary [15:40] BenC: There is also another patch in the bug that reverts the state to exactly what was there before, if you prefer that. [15:41] the one-liner is preferred at this point (beta/release) [15:41] See also http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9871 [15:41] bugzilla.kernel.org bug 9871 in Network "hci0 SCO packet for unknown connection handle 1" [Normal,New] [15:41] marked for release now [15:42] Wonderful. Thank you. [15:54] Hi, BenC do you have a minute? [15:55] You changes bug #183928 to fix commited... somehow I don't see how you fixed this :/ [15:55] Launchpad bug 183928 in network-manager "update iwlwifi to latest version" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/183928 [15:59] elmargol: How do you now see how I updated iwlwifi to the latest version? [15:59] *not [16:00] BenC: last version is from 03/11 [16:01] elmargol: Latest iwlwifi is 1.2.25 from 02/04 [16:12] amitk, cking, smb: ping [16:12] BenC: ack [16:15] ack [16:19] Well, let's get started [16:19] ok [16:19] Not much to discuss other than wanted to make sure we focus on release milestoned bugs at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+milestone/ubuntu-8.04 [16:21] Final kernel upload is scheduled for 4-7/4-10, but I think we want to make sure to hit that on the early side (that's the latest) [16:21] smb, amitk: Anything you've come across that you think is extremely important for release? [16:22] mjg59: Same question for you ^^ [16:22] Nothing further I'm aware of [16:22] So far, all the bugs I've seen are "let's try to get it fixed for release", but none should really hold up the release [16:22] BenC: Nothing in that category. [16:22] BenC: bug 197929, haven't had a chance to revert the patch though [16:22] Launchpad bug 197929 in linux "Backlight adjustment no longer works on Thinkpad X61s" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/197929 [16:23] amitk: Right, that one is milestoned for release, so should be on the list [16:24] 197929 seems to be the most important [16:24] anyone had a chance to look at ralink wireless drivers yet? [16:24] The fix (but thats sauce) to 140511 might be "nice to have" and it should not be intrusive [16:24] no not yet [16:25] bug #140511 [16:25] Launchpad bug 140511 in linux "Belkin USB bluetooth device loads wrong module" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/140511 [16:26] smb: If you think it's could be done for release, and is warranted, milestone it [16:27] BenC: ok [16:27] Ok, anything else from anyone? [16:29] Great, thanks everyone === \sh is now known as \sh_away [18:58] BenC, mjg59: the patch worked fine, my laptop powers down again when hibernating :) [19:07] I wanted to try the wlan-led patch as well, but that should be applied on top of lum? [19:16] tjaalton: Sweet. Can you attach it to the bug if it's not there already? [19:17] mjg59: sure [19:19] tjaalton: Winning, thanks [19:21] that commit was already mentioned, but it needs a patch to fix a compile error [22:00] hm, do I understand correctly that Ralink wireless is finally supposed to be fixed after 4 years ? or will it only be "less bad" in hardy ? [22:06] hey all, is there a real reason we don't supply seperatly patched kernels? say prepatches and andrew morton patches -- i know this is a release base OS but as an option? [22:10] is someone involved to the bug 185470 regarding the iwl3945 kernel module for intels wireless 3945 device ? [22:10] Launchpad bug 185470 in linux "iwl3945 not functioning : microcode error" [Unknown,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185470 [22:12] there are many some people using this device, specially with notebooks, since hardy comes with this kernel module and has problems with microcode SW error i would like to ask if this can be expected to be solved with the release of hardy? [22:14] adinc: you mentioned that you are willing to test any fixes if needed, so add those upstream patches to the current version and build it. the wiki-page has all the instructions [22:14] yes [22:15] i'm new to ubuntu, if you can point me to the said wiki page i can do the testing [22:16] and which patches are we talking about? [22:16] adinc: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/GitKernelBuild [22:16] adinc: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/185470/comments/25 [22:16] Launchpad bug 185470 in linux "iwl3945 not functioning : microcode error" [Unknown,In progress] [22:17] tjaalton: i see, but i'm not familiar with the term upstream patch [22:17] adinc: ok, in that case just wait for someone to test it [22:18] tjaalton: but this can not be that complicated, aren't there patches available? applying the patches and compiling it is not that difficult [22:19] adinc: you'd need to dig them up from git.kernel.org [22:19] ok [22:20] with upstream patch, you were trying to say patches from the developer below ubuntu, the kernel patches [22:20] ok, thank you very much so far [22:21] ah, right === kraut_ is now known as kraut