[00:00] i get that too, Egghead3 [00:01] ok laga [00:01] ive done a bunch of google searches, not a whole lot out there on this problem [00:01] i'm gonna make this easier and work from the laptop in the same room as the HDTV [00:01] cackette, does you mythfrontend log fill up fast with these errors? [00:03] yeah, it goes [00:04] TelnetManta: are you using mythtv-setup or mythtv-setup.real? [00:04] laga: http://pastebin.org/25183 and http://pastebin.org 25182 and http://kodiak.24quotes.com/Xorg.0.log [00:04] http://pastebin.org/25182 i mean [00:06] laga: mythtv-setup [00:06] laga: It may have something to do with my theme. I'm using BlooBuntu-Wide [00:06] superm1: !!!! [00:07] superm1: long time no see, my fault though [00:07] hi TelnetManta [00:07] what you been up to? [00:07] took a break and finally had to get my myth box back up, couldnt take it anymore :) [00:08] hehe [00:08] fighting segfaults in mythtv-setup while scanning chans now. arg [00:08] hm another one of those... [00:08] hd homerun? [00:08] update the dvb stuff [00:09] superm1: nah, dvbs cards [00:09] well file bug(s) :) [00:11] I dont follow [00:12] looking for help with bt878 tuner card in myttv [00:12] ..> mythtv [00:12] TelnetManta, when mythtv-setup crashes, apport should be able to catch the crash [00:12] and submit it to launchpad for you [00:12] TelnetManta, just make sure you have apport-gtk installed [00:12] and if you didn't, then reboot after installing it [00:13] set up backend to use this card as an analog v4l device but mythtv doesn't find any channels on scan, in fact finishes in about half a second [00:13] was already installed [00:13] TelnetManta, and apport isn't catching it? [00:14] superm1: nope, usually a core dump [00:14] run this [00:14] sudo /usr/share/apport/apport-gtk [00:14] see if it catches the old reports [00:15] none found [00:15] would it matter that I installed from source and not apt? [00:15] yes [00:15] it doesnt catch that kind of stuff [00:16] that splains it [00:16] if you installed from source, you won't get our script wrapping goodness ;) [00:16] TelnetManta: use taskset -c 0 to bind mythtv-setup to one CPU [00:16] any one willing to help with tuner problem [00:16] sysadm-myth, you haven't said the problem [00:17] !ask | sysadm-myth [00:17] sysadm-myth: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-) [00:17] sysadm-myth: if someone has an answer, they will tell you [00:17] after upgrade to .21, i get a flood of 'audio stream changed' errors in my mythfrontend log, and ideas? [00:18] bt878 tuner, works in mplayer, mythtv doesn't try to scan channels if set up as a v4l analog card. If i set to mpeg card, mythtv scans channels but obviously doesn't decode video properly because its not an mpeg card [00:19] it seems like the tuner definitions within mythtv are faulty maybe [00:19] ??? [00:20] sysadm-myth, well based on that, perhaps just scan as an mpeg and switch it back to analog before you use it? [00:21] Hey [00:21] when I switch it back i loose the channels that were scanned for as mpeg card, also it finds all 125 channels [00:21] plus about 14 channels that start with the letter T [00:22] sysadm-myth, okay [00:22] well when you scan as analog, whats mythtv-setup say in the terminal [00:22] about why it cant [00:23] it doesn't say that it can't, in the setup menu the screen flickers for about .5 sec and acts like it is finished [00:23] Cackette: your X logs look sane.. post them on the forums, maybe someone has an idea. it's also very odd that it's not working in mplayer either with -vo xv [00:24] Cackette: unless you used to use xvmc.. [00:24] i have no idea what it used to use, i never messed w/ anything before .21 [00:24] laga: taskset command not found? [00:24] only weird thing i did was get the restricted nvidia driver because hte normal one wouldnt allow 1920x1080 [00:25] TelnetManta, install util-linux [00:25] that's odd its missing though [00:25] its part of ubuntu-minimal [00:25] sysadm-myth, that's really odd. [00:26] superm1: still not found [00:26] superm1 what utility does mythtv use to tune the channels v4l2-ctl or ivtv-ctl [00:26] this is an older system, edgy [00:27] sysadm-myth, neither of those [00:27] its part of the v4l2 api [00:27] TelnetManta, well that's why... [00:27] it's probably somewhere else [00:27] TelnetManta, mythtv-setup has problems working off two cpus and scanning [00:27] so that sets it's affinity to a single one [00:28] superm1, mplayer and tvtime work just fine, is there something that they may be setting in the /proc filesystem before they start that mythtv isnt [00:28] yeah, I've seen it before and thought I'de used it on this system but I guess not [00:28] Hey guys have a question? [00:28] just ask it [00:28] TelnetManta, well if it's not on edgy anywhere, perhaps upgrade your system :) [00:29] Hi [00:29] sysadm-myth, i'm not that informed on the backend code for it. you may consider poking in #mythtv-users [00:29] superm1: ECK! [00:29] Has anyone in the roon succesfully used a HVR-1250 with the latest stable release of mythbutu [00:29] superm1, thanks alot [00:30] sysadm-myth, np sorry i couldn't help further [00:30] does anyone know how to identify a hauppauge wintv card from model number [00:30] I get a warning about the recorningsserver [00:30] How do I make it stop alerting al the time [00:30] the HVR-1250 is the new Hybrid PCI-e ATSC card [00:30] superm1: schedutils [00:31] now to figure out the command to run [00:32] MythbuntuGuest71, what's the warning [00:32] MythbuntuGuest71, i wouldn't expect so [00:34] okay, MUCH better now with only one cpu! [00:34] laga: Thanks! [00:34] superm1: Thanks! [00:35] Now I can get back to looking for a theme thats nicer than Bloo-tube. Not sure its possible htough [00:45] TelnetManta, if you upgrade to hardy there are plenty of themes in apt...... [00:48] isnt hardy a beta? [00:48] Cackette, it is [00:48] but i'm just saying...\ [00:48] superm1: I meant Myth themes. [00:49] TelnetManta, so did i [00:49] superm1: ok ;) [00:49] we have a ton of them available in hardy now [00:49] oops :) [00:49] i'm on .21 and using mythcenter-wide i believe [00:49] on gutsy [00:49] theres alot of themes in apt already [00:49] too bad the guy who made bloo-tube has anger issues lol [00:50] Cackette-Laptop, there's even more :) [00:50] i'm satisfied w/ the ones in .21 [00:50] i see 11 OSD and regular themes [00:50] how many in hardy? [00:52] 21 [00:53] does myth work differently in hardy? i'm considering upgrading to see if it'll fix my playback problems [00:53] there are a few specific fixes in hardy [00:53] but not necessarily going to fix your playback problems [00:53] superm1: mplayer -vo xv doesn't work for Cackette-Laptop either.. [00:53] yeah [00:53] only -vo x11 [00:54] Cackette-Laptop, well xvmc sounds like the way to go then [00:54] i'm wondering if theres some update for my drivers, but i dont know how to check [00:54] Cackette-Laptop, well newer drivers in hardy too... [00:54] maybe new drivers in my gutsy? [00:54] i dont know how to check [00:54] what's the card? [00:54] i installed the restricted driver w/ automatix [00:54] nvidia 6600 [00:54] baaaah [00:54] non-GT [00:55] auotmatix. scary [00:55] automatix* [00:55] Cackette-Laptop, you have UseEvents "true" ? [00:55] in xorg.conf? [00:55] absolutely no clue [00:55] Cackette-Laptop, well take a look [00:55] open up xorg.conf in an editor [00:55] and see [00:55] i'm looking [00:56] UseEvents isnt found [00:56] that makes a world of difference [00:56] where do i put it [00:56] at the end? [00:56] Option “UseEvents” “True” [00:56] in the device section [00:57] where specifically [00:57] theres alot of lines that say device [00:57] in the video device section [00:57] http://kodiak.24quotes.com/Xorg.0.log if you wanna look [00:57] not your xorg.0.log [00:57] your /etc/X11/xorg.conf [00:57] oh [00:57] lemme look [00:58] Section "Device" [00:58] that? [00:58] yes [00:58] and i just add Option "Use Events" "True" [00:59] yeah [00:59] well [00:59] whats this do [00:59] not with that space [00:59] look closer how mine was [00:59] http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/NVidiaProprietaryDriver [00:59] read about it there [00:59] yeah, i didnt put a space [01:00] so now i should try to play a mplayer -vo xv [01:00] or what [01:00] restart X [01:00] and try it all again [01:00] restart X [01:00] how [01:00] lol [01:00] :( [01:00] from ssh. sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart [01:00] or just restart the computer [01:01] complete restart [01:01] FYI, this would have been done by default during the mythbuntu install when you picked your driver to start.... [01:01] or logout [01:01] i changed my driver after install [01:01] the regular driver wouldnt let me run 1920x1080 [01:01] the restricted one did [01:01] yeah i'm saying during install, if you picked the restricted one during ubiquity [01:01] it would have done this for you [01:02] o [01:02] restarting now [01:02] after, i try to use mplayer -vo xv? [01:03] sure [01:03] hopefully thats the fix i was looking for [01:03] my box hasnt worked in 2 weeks [01:03] 1 of them w/ me not here, the other me trying to fix it [01:04] are you shitting me [01:04] thats the fix [01:05] you're a king, superm1 [01:05] yeah np [01:05] if you're around and see some other folks running into the same issue ever, be sure to mention this as a possible fix :) [01:05] i will, thanks [01:06] when i go into mythweb/video i get this error: [01:06] Could not create a symlink to /var/lib/mythtv/videos, the local MythVideo directory for this hostname (htpc). Please create a symlink to your MythVideo directory at data/video in order to use the video portions of MythWeb. [01:06] is your videos directory not that? [01:06] it is [01:07] Cackette-Laptop: look at the FAQs in the topic [01:07] the fix for that is in there [01:07] ok [01:08] whats a symlink [01:08] Cackette-Laptop: man ln [01:08] or even wikipedia [01:08] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symbolic_link [01:08] Cackette-Laptop: open a terminal, type "man ln" and hit enter [01:09] kk [01:10] how do i verify if they're broken/existant [01:11] i'm in /var/www/mythweb/data [01:12] my videos are in /var/lib/mythtv/videos [01:12] (somone needs to verify this happens in ubuntu, it does in putty)do a ls -la and the broken ones show up in red [01:12] is the symlink red? [01:13] i dont know what i'm doing [01:15] the name of it and what it is pointing at will both be in red text with a black background [01:15] if in doubt try to cd to the link [01:15] it will yell if something is wrong [01:15] so in /var/www/ythweb/data a red "video" is the link? [01:17] do: [01:17] cd /var/www/mythweb/data [01:17] then [01:17] ls -la [01:17] and look for red [01:18] the one i just made is in light blue [01:18] video -> /var/lib/mythtv/videos [01:18] good now do this [01:18] cd video [01:18] and you should see your videos [01:19] ah, i see, the error in mythweb changed [01:19] now its prob the covers [01:19] yeah [01:19] gotta go back and fix them [01:20] so now i do sudo ln -s /var/lib/mythv/MythVideo video_covers [01:20] Could not create a symlink to /home/htpc/.mythtv/MythVideo, the local MythVideo artwork directory for this hostname (htpc). Please create a symlink to your MythVideo directory at data/video_covers in order to use the video artwork portions of MythWeb. [01:21] correct? [01:21] I think by default they are in /home//.mythtv/MythVideo [01:22] look around in there till you find them, then point video_covers at that [01:22] ok [01:22] sudo ln -s /home/htpc/.mythtv/MythVideo [01:22] video_covers [01:23] if htpc is your user [01:23] it is [01:23] but i dont see MythVideo in that folder [01:23] check and make sure there are covers there [01:23] just MythPhone and mythstream [01:24] maybe they're in the user mythtv [01:24] not there either [01:25] look around in your /home/htpc/.mythtv folder [01:25] might be in a sub directory under there [01:25] I forget the default, you can look on the setup menu on your frontend to find it [01:25] theres backend_configured, lircrc [01:25] for folders [01:26] it says they're in /home/htpc/.mythtv/MythVideo [01:26] but i dont see that folder [01:27] have you downloaded any covers? [01:27] uh [01:27] no [01:27] whats a cover anyways [01:27] have any parental controls made it into Myth yet? [01:27] nope [01:27] oh, maybe [01:27] cover as in dvd cover [01:27] i thought you were talking about my mythbox [01:28] i dont have a dvd drive [01:28] so no [01:28] it grabs an image from imdb.com [01:28] to go along with the video [01:28] doesn't work for everything [01:28] the only possible "cover" i have are for the recorded shows, theres pngs [01:29] but thats in /recordings/ not /video/ [01:29] make a directory and point your symlink at it [01:29] all of a sudden, it works [01:29] weird [01:30] w/o the symlink for covers [01:30] and now it doesnt [01:30] did you delete the broken one? [01:30] yeah [01:30] just make a directory in .mythtv and point it at that [01:30] ok [01:30] mk video_covers [01:30] right [01:31] thats what the symlink needs to be [01:31] it doesn't matter what the directory is [01:31] how do i make a new directory lol [01:31] i'm sorry [01:31] go where you want it [01:31] i'm there [01:31] and do mkdir [01:31] then you need to do some things to id [01:31] mkdir, not mk [01:31] it [01:31] mkdir [01:32] then do: [01:32] sudo chown mythtv [01:32] sudo chgrp mythtv [01:33] sudo chmod 2775 [01:33] then go make your symlink [01:35] and now i do sudo ln -s /home/htpc/.mythtv/video_covers video_covers [01:35] or what [01:35] was i supposed to make the folder MythVideo [01:35] :eek: [01:36] well if you didn't you will want to go and change that to whatever you made in the frontend [01:36] but no big deal [01:39] ok, we're good now [01:40] thanks [01:40] no problem [01:42] what playback profile should i be using [01:42] do the specs of the PC really matter? [01:43] nvidia 6600, amd 3000+, 2GB ram [01:44] HD, SD? [01:44] both [01:44] I'd do cpu+ [01:44] and see how that works out [01:44] might need to tweak some for your HD [01:45] whats the diff between CPU+, CPU++ and High Quality [01:45] right now its on CPU++ [01:45] cpu++ requires more cpu power than cpu+ [01:46] an amd 3000+ isnt capable of cpu++? [01:46] you can try it if you want and see how it goes [01:46] what about High Quality [01:47] try it and see [01:47] actually, CPU+ doesnt work [01:48] wait, wtf [01:48] now CPU++ doesnt work [01:48] or High Quality [01:48] well that would make sense [01:48] if cpu+ doesn't work, then the others wont either [01:49] CPU++ was working before i switched to CPU+ [01:49] and now it isnt [01:49] SD vs HD? [01:50] HD [01:50] i'm getting only audio [01:50] and rainbow screen [01:50] try a different recording [01:51] all of the recordings work [01:51] i've seen them all [01:51] none of the playback profiles work now [01:51] try the recordings again [01:52] with the playback profile now [01:52] i just did [01:52] on CPU++ [01:52] which is what it was set to when it worked after adding that line to xorg.conf [01:54] check your deinterlacers [01:54] they can eat cpu [01:54] on that playback profile screen you need to go edit on each line, and there are deinterlacers in there [01:54] ok [01:55] what should i set them to [01:55] currently the first one in CPU+ has Bob (2x) and Linear Blend [01:57] ok, wierd, now w/o changing anything, except closing and reopening the frontend, they work [02:00] this thing is pretty trippy, rhpot1991 [02:00] trippy how? [02:02] why it worked, didnt work, then worked again [02:02] w/o changing anything [03:11] any idea why some shows stream, and others do not? [03:12] Tuv0k, bitrate [03:13] I'll look into it [03:13] and why .asx? [03:13] isn't there a more friendly stream for linux than that? [03:14] vlc just won't stream it [03:14] Tuv0k: when you stream the asx what password are you putting in there? [03:14] password for what? [03:14] asx is just a container [03:14] my asx stream asks for a password [03:14] it should open in totem usually [03:14] and for the life of me I have no idea which one it wants [03:14] mine does not [03:14] it doesn't take any of the ones that I use [03:15] foxbuntu and his hacking must be behind it then [03:15] more friendly container [03:16] maybe the fact that I'm ssh tunneling the stream has something to do with my irregular playback? [03:17] but i would think the ssh compression would be helping [03:17] eh not really [03:17] but the encryption hurting? [03:17] file xfers take longer over ssh [03:20] longer file transfers? sounds like witchcraft to me [03:20] you mean you didn't get that black magic storage drive? [03:21] mythtranscode is chopping these 2.1gb 1hr shows down to 768mb as opposed to 1.6gb from a few months ago [03:21] thats great [03:21] going to try to transcode even further with nuvexport [03:21] grrrr, superm1 freaking virtualbox wont capture my mouse??? [03:21] I have to fix nuvexport where it renames the file into something human readable [03:22] Tuv0k: there is mythrename in the contrib folder [03:22] hmmm [03:22] have to read up on it [03:22] nuvexport is supposed to auto rename [03:23] but if mythrename does it first, nuvexport won't have to? [03:27] ok, transcoding to divx failed, even thought it said complete [03:27] but not in 30sec [03:27] busted ffmpeg? [03:28] rhpot1991, yeah it will [03:28] no, I know that it does, it just wont [03:29] I get the window saying it is [03:29] click ok, or hit enter [03:29] and nothing [03:29] I wonder if it dislikes the fact that I copied these over from gutsy [03:30] i dislike that [03:30] cant speak for it though [03:30] dislike what? [03:30] all I want to do is set my IP so I can access it from elsewhere :( [03:31] seems like it might be a compiz problem [03:46] why did compiz start? [03:46] in a VM? [03:46] that's crazy talk [03:49] no no, not in the vm, on the main box [03:49] hey whats up everyone [03:50] went and bought a 500gb WDC Green Power drive today [03:57] this thing is quiet and cool test via a thermometer is 95F [04:09] rhpot1991, oh, just run away from compiz [04:10] I think I might be doing my networking wrong as well [04:10] added a new card just for the VM's [04:11] I was hoping I could just say hey use eth1, but it seems I have to do this bridging crap still [04:14] * npurciful plans on having mythtv borked by the end of the night [04:16] rearanging 4 hdd it is bound to happen [04:51] i have multiple xv outputs. is there a way to indicate which one for myth to use? [05:13] Anyone got an alternative link for the 8.04 Beta? === Ziroda1 is now known as JFerret [05:15] Can someone help me get LIRC and my remote to work please [05:17] anybody..... [05:22] OpenMedia, alternative? [05:22] what's wrong with the main link? [05:24] Not getting the iso [05:24] http://mythbuntu.org/download/?file=mythbuntu-8.04-beta-desktop-i386.iso.md5sum [05:24] Doesn't even provide the md5sum [05:24] turn off adblock [05:24] and noscript [05:24] if either are on [05:25] Ah.. Yup. I block urchin.sj [05:25] sorry urchin.js [05:26] So hows things superm1? [05:26] OpenMedia, yeah we require analytics for tracking our data. :) [05:26] OpenMedia, going pretty well [05:26] keeping busy [05:27] Working now? [05:27] been working for ~5 weeks :) [05:28] Can someone help me get LIRC and my remote to work please [05:28] !ask | JFerret [05:28] JFerret: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-) [05:28] superm1: got it come back in a hour or so :) [05:29] superm1: Looks like I might be in Porland for OSCON again, I've been selected as a speaker for OSCON and Linux World. [05:29] JFerret, just ask exactly what you need to know, and if someone knows, they'll speak up :) [05:29] OpenMedia, oh nice [05:29] i'll be in Prague this year for UDS, but probably not in portland afaik at this piont [05:29] i didn't submit any papers or anything [05:29] Nice.. [05:30] Catch you later.. Need to head home.. [05:30] okay cu [05:30] Okay, how would I configure a Hauppauge TV remote to work with mythtv. I can't even get irw to work [05:31] JFerret, well for starters, how'd you install lirc, what version of ubuntu? [05:32] superm1: mythbuntu 7.10, it came with the install :) [05:32] okay, so things worked out of the box and stopped working? [05:32] or never worked period [05:32] never worked [05:32] okay so this is the i2c remote? [05:32] or a usb one? [05:32] the i2c one [05:32] okay, the most common cause honestly is that cable in the back being loose [05:33] the cable is connected to the IR port securly [05:34] and I just put fresh batteries in the remote [05:34] just "reseat it" to rule that out of the picture [05:34] these things can be very finicky [05:34] provided that stuff is all good, are the kernel modules loading? [05:34] lirc_i2c? [05:35] sure reseat the PCI card or the IR port cable? [05:35] and yes I presume its lirc_i2c [05:35] just the ir cable [05:35] done [05:35] well use lsmod | grep lirc [05:36] to make sure the module is loaded [05:36] lirc_i2c 11268 0 [05:36] lirc_dev 15860 1 lirc_i2c [05:36] i2c_core 26112 7 cx88xx,ivtv,bttv,i2c_algo_bit,tveeprom,lirc_i2c,nvidia [05:36] that means the modules loaded right [05:36] yeah they're all loaded [05:37] okay so next thing is which remote did you pick during install? [05:37] the "Hauppauge TV" ? [05:37] yep [05:37] Hauppauge TV Remote [05:37] okay. [05:37] well you can try to cat from /dev/lirc0 [05:38] and see if you get garbage in the terminal at least [05:38] cat: /dev/lirc0: No such file or directory [05:38] no /dev/lirc0? [05:38] yep [05:38] interesting... [05:38] !pastebin [05:38] pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic) [05:38] your dmesg [05:38] sure [05:39] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60949/ [05:40] hm most uninteresting. [05:40] your lirc_i2c didn't register to the hardware [05:41] that isn't good is it? [05:41] sure the hardware isn't broke? [05:41] reasonable [05:41] *reasonably [05:41] mind you it has been sitting around for a while [05:41] what does dmesg | grep ivtv say? [05:41] er no [05:41] i see that [05:41] nvm [05:42] okay [05:42] the thing that worries me is that there is nothing between that START INIT IVTV [05:42] and END INIT IVTV [05:42] other than the module loading [05:42] not that it found hardware [05:42] anything [05:42] hmm well in that case should recording be working? [05:42] is it working for capture purposes? [05:42] er recording purposes or anything [05:43] have not had the chance to try yet [05:43] ... :) [05:43] do you have a /dev/video0? [05:43] nope [05:43] does it show up in lspci? [05:44] nope [05:44] well can you put all this together :) [05:44] yep [05:44] bugger [05:44] reseat the card [05:44] and see if that helps at all [05:44] if not, move it to another slot [05:44] okay gimme a min [05:44] if still nothing, try another pc [05:52] hey could this be from the Hauppauge card ? 02:00.0 Multimedia video controller: Conexant CX23880/1/2/3 PCI Video and Audio Decoder (rev 05) [05:52] 02:00.1 Multimedia controller: Conexant CX23880/1/2/3 PCI Video and Audio Decoder [Audio Port] (rev 05) [05:52] and I have a /dev/video0 :) [05:52] there you go :) [05:53] superm1: and the little bugger of a remote works :-D [05:53] thanks a load superm1 [05:53] youre a lifesaver [05:53] no prob. [05:53] * JFerret is over the moon [05:53] you know what though? [05:53] perhaps this needs to go into the FAQ :) [05:54] would you mind adding the jist of this discussion? [05:54] sorry english is not my first language [05:54] jist? [05:54] paraphrase the discussion so that other people can read through the "my remote doesn't work" what do i do? [05:54] add a few points to follow for debugging [05:54] oh sure [05:55] so basically make it shorter and less off hand? [05:55] yeah put it in bullet form and such [05:55] okay [05:55] would you like me to email it to you? [05:56] you can edit it yourself [05:56] just go to the url in the topic [05:57] at mythbuntu.org? [05:58] ttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=733607 [05:58] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=733607 [05:58] ah thanks never spotted that before [06:02] superm1: okay will do that sometime soon [06:02] superm1: thanks again [06:02] thanks :) [06:02] have a good evening [06:11] so far the mpgs from the tuner stream in the asx container [06:11] but not the .nuv files [07:11] How do I configure MythTV as a UPnP server? [07:22] nomopofomo, http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/UPnP#UPnP_in_MythTV [07:24] Tuv0k, I must not be getting something because I have no idea how to set that up. [07:24] It's pretty vague [07:29] Apparently my master backend server isn't running. [08:08] so, now i'm all fixed up [08:09] Tuv0k, how do you suppose I stream an MP3 from my MythTV box to my PlayStation 3? [08:20] I can't figure out how to enable or configure UPnP in MythTV. Can anyone help? [09:26] hello, ive got a script for creating udev rules for my devices how do I lock down to a PCI slot http://rafb.net/p/WzmShh47.html [11:06] anyone here? [11:09] Anyone knows how it works with ComHem? What do I need? First, a tv-card, but then? Need a cf-card? [11:16] Anyone knows how it works with ComHem? What do I need? First, a tv-card, but then? Need a cf-card? [11:30] freezeman: ComHem is a digital cable tv provider? [11:31] rigolo: Yes, they are quite big in Sweden. [11:36] freezeman: and is their signal encrypted? do you need a smart card from them? [11:37] rigolo: Thats what Im trying to find out... [11:38] freezeman: how do you watch their digital tv now then? [11:39] I have analog-tv base (from cable jack in the wall) but Im thinking about to change to digital tv subscriptipon. [11:49] http://www.linuxtv.org/pipermail/linux-dvb/2007-June/018834.html [11:50] somebody that is using it with mythtv [11:50] basically you need a dvb-c card [11:50] with CI support [11:50] and a CAM that can be used with the smartcard from ComHem [11:51] you could use a softcam but that is not supported [11:51] Many European cable providers broadcast the base channels unencrypted. Don't know about Sweden, in some countries they might even be required by law to do so. [11:57] Rigolo Thanks! Its exactly that card Im going to order. So I need a CAM for it too.. Sigh! [11:58] freezeman: and a CI, usually they do not come standard with a ci [11:58] smartcard -> CAM -> CI === DVB-C card (=== is a ribbon cable) [11:59] and make sure you get a CAM that is usable with your smartcard and encryption used by ComHem [12:00] Rigolo Well, Ill start with the tv-card and then Ill go to the computerstore and ask them for support. But the chance is quite big that Ill need the rest you are mentioning about. Thanks a lot for the support anyway! [12:01] Rigolo Bye... [12:01] for encrypted tv you WILL need a CAM [12:01] and 1) you need a tv card which will accept a cam, not just any old card 2) you need to have permission in your tv contract to use one [12:02] If you really need a CAM+CI (it is not clear from what you told us so far that you are subscribing to encrypted PayTV), you are much better off buying it all in one with the TV card. Both cheaper usually and some TV cards don't support CAMS and sometimes shops don't have it all on stock. [12:03] most tv cards don't support CAMs [12:03] only a couple of companies do them, infact [12:07] There he goes. One soon to be unhappy Swede. ;-) [12:08] well, we will see :-) [12:10] why do people ask for advice if they have no intention of listening to it? [12:10] well, s/he heard what s/he wanted to hear :-) [12:12] What I always find amazing is that they want to jump straight into mythtv with digital tv without first trying that "the official way" [12:13] that is ... with a supported STB etc [12:14] Who wants a STB in the first place? :-) [12:15] well .... to gently bring your wife/girlfriend into the world of digital tv (with EPG etc) it helps [12:16] then start running a "test server" with analog cards .. and let her get used to that (still using mythtv player on her PC) [12:16] and then move to a digital setup ... and then work on the frontend in the living room [12:17] mythtv player? wuss! http://www2.apebox.org/wordpress/wp-content/gallery/00-single/mythtv-win32.JPG [12:17] directhex|work: well .. this was before that .. :-) [12:17] anyway, garbage in -> garbage out. why waste money on crappy framegrabbers? [12:18] to show why you need to invest some more ... [12:18] and then sell them on ebay :-) [12:24] looks good btw ... mythtv win32 [12:24] how stable is it? [12:25] erm... imagine a house of cards, one mile tall [12:25] in a hurricane [12:26] must be strong cards then :-) [12:26] now, imagine that was your benchmark for stability [12:26] win32 builds are somewhat less stable than that [12:32] well, the good news is ... cards are cheap and they do not break easily in high winds :-) [12:32] and some superglue does wonders for a house of cards :-) [12:54] hi - i cant get my mythbuntu heron box(latest alpha) to connect to internet via my gusty box. [12:55] my gusty runs a cable modem via usb and im on it now [12:55] do i have to set up a default route from myth to gusty? [12:56] you need to set up routing on the client machine, yes [12:56] as well as enable NAT on the host machine [12:58] ok - by client you mean myth box? [12:59] oh ok- i understand [12:59] so routing is done by [13:00] sudo route add default gw 169.154.5.68 (my host that has internet) [13:00] is that correct? [13:00] yes, that looks correct to me [13:00] and NAT? [13:00] network adrres translation? [13:00] it's siz or seven iptables lines. let me find it [13:01] http://www.revsys.com/writings/quicktips/nat.html [13:01] the weird thing is my host runs a apache server and the client can see that via the IP [13:01] in firefox [13:03] then NAT is your problem [13:03] and probably DNS too [13:04] look at it this way - how does the client know how to get onto the big wide internet, without its own direct link? it doesn't. how does the server know to accept, remap, and send requests to the internet sent by the client? via configuration [13:04] thats true. [13:05] should i use webmin for this? [13:05] webmin is fantastic at chewing and spitting out config files. it should generally be regarded as dangerous [13:05] righto - ill just follow your 4 steps [13:06] i tried firestarter but that is plain old fucked [13:06] actuall - can i log into my lan connected box from this machine? [13:06] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ThinClientHowtoNAT makes it relatively simple [13:07] if it has an ssh server installed, why wouldn't you be able to? networks go both ways [13:08] true that [13:08] ill try [13:21] directhex|work : my eth card is called eth0:avah [13:21] is that right? [13:28] luddite: that's most likely just a pseudo interface [13:29] laga, sounds like an autoconfigured interface from lack of DHCP [13:29] ok - so eth0 would be its name to use? [13:29] avahi is bonjour for linux [13:30] oh [13:30] hahah [13:30] yeah. [13:30] should i paste interfaces and if config into pastebin? [13:40] it might help [13:40] thing is, in the time you spend mucking about, you could go out, get a temp job for a few hours, and buy a router [13:42] Mornin' folks [13:43] superm1: you around? [13:51] directhex|work : neither of those links seemed to work [13:54] http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6063/ [13:56] now i cant even ping the other pc and it cant ping me ... [13:57] ping 169.254.4.152 [13:57] PING 169.254.4.152 (169.254.4.152) 56(84) bytes of data. [13:57] From 203.208.112.41 icmp_seq=1 Destination Host Unreachable [13:57] yeah [13:57] because that's not a real IP address [13:57] it's autodiscovery stuff [13:57] why did it revert to 203.208.112.41? [13:58] auto - i deleted auto. [13:59] Mornin' laga [13:59] morning Aquahallic [14:00] You familiar with the "Blue People" using ATI [14:00] with .21 [14:01] no [14:01] ahh... k... I thought superm1 said you knew something about it... [14:01] i actually thought that problem was fixed in 0.21. 0.20 and some broken drivers gave you smurf-ish people due to a color space problem [14:01] yeah... I got it [14:01] oh i left in the auto line [14:01] but I'm using the free ATI driver [14:01] Aquahallic: have you tried to adjust the hue? [14:01] auto eth0 [14:01] iface eth0 inet static [14:01] address 192.168.0.1 [14:02] so if i delete auto eth0. then it should be ok? [14:02] superm1: suggested I get the non-free... but it breaks my compiz and AWN dock...:( [14:03] Aquahallic: try adjusting the hue [14:04] heh [14:04] laga - should i remove firestarter? [14:04] I can't even get to it.... looks like my OSD is broke too....:/ [14:05] Aquahallic: did you install all themes? [14:05] Aquahallic: i didn't get a OSD when i was missing my OSD theme [14:06] luddite: i dunno, i have no clue what you're trying to do but i've got a feeling that you need to read up on networking [14:06] let me check [14:06] also - my mythtv is running through a 1080p plasma. im worried about burn in. is there a way to stop this? [14:06] laga - i get you there. [14:06] should I use synaptic and search mythtv and then take all the themes I see?? [14:07] Aquahallic: well.. given you've installed from source.. and you're running edgy.. the answer is no ;) [14:07] I'm on Gutsy.. and I took the update from synaptic [14:07] oh? [14:08] i thought you were using edgy [14:08] silly me then [14:08] Aquahallic: that's in the FAQ [14:08] what's in the FAQ?? [14:08] the themes issue [14:09] eg where to get them [14:10] I just went to synaptic and found that the osd theme wasn't installed....:) [14:11] I'm just pulling down all the themes... when I upgraded it defaulted me back to the Grey... [14:13] WALLA! [14:13] You're my HERO laga....;) [14:13] why'd it set my hue all the way down like that?? [14:13] heh [14:14] Aquahallic: let me guess, if you move it in the middle it's fine? [14:14] yup [14:14] PERFECT! [14:14] dead slam in the middle [14:14] can you give me [14:14] the output of "xvinfo"? [14:14] there are some video card specific fixups in mythtv [14:14] whatcha' mean xvinfo? [14:14] with one of them being setting the hue to "50" on radeon cards [14:15] yup.. that's ME.. radeon 9600 [14:15] :P [14:15] Aquahallic: open a terminal, type exinfo, hit return, paste output into www.pastebin.ca [14:15] * Aquahallic is guessin' this ain't the first time you've run across this one...LOL [14:15] yup.. sec [14:15] no.. but i saw that in the source code when i was looking for something else last night ;) [14:16] exinfo command not found [14:16] I need to install something? [14:17] Aquahallic: "xvinfo" [14:17] sorry, i typoed that [14:17] you want on pastebin? [14:18] yup [14:19] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/61011/ [14:19] ty sir! [14:22] hmm.. I saw a REALLY KEWL theme a while back... had like red curtains as the background.. anyone remember the name of it?? [14:22] glass-wide [14:22] yeah! [14:22] Aquahallic: hum, that's odd.. that fix should work.. [14:22] ty [14:23] didn't [14:23] :/ [14:23] the hue worked though [14:23] too bad you didn't compile from source ;) [14:23] i use a ati card, too# [14:24] and it works there, although i tweaked the hue back then to get the best picture.. i dont remember any smurfishness [14:26] awweee.... no package for Gutsy [14:26] Aquahallic: FAQ ;) [14:26] yeah [14:26] :P [14:26] I pulled down the zip [14:27] just gotta find where the themes folder is....LOL [14:27] the mythbuntu FAQ I'm assuming? [14:27] yes [14:28] forums? [14:29] Aquahallic: /topic [14:31] laga: is there also a autobuild script for 0.21 (so not fixes or trunk) and a bzr with all the patches that were applied to the official 0.21 mythbuntu build? [14:32] autobuild script? why would you need a autobuild script if you just want 0.21 and the patches? just apt-get source mythtv on hardy [14:33] Rigolo: our just get the 0.21 tarball and the bzr branch, i think by default i applies against 0.21 [14:33] ofcourse :-) I'm so into these scripts now ... [14:33] still wrestling with that patch btw .. slowly getting there [14:33] but .. shopping time again .... [14:33] be back later [14:59] for anyone who was looking for a ffmpeg that does libmp3lame in hardy, medibuntu has a 32 bit one now [15:00] 32 bit? how quaint! [15:01] yep, no 64 yet [15:01] :( [15:03] rebuild the source package then [15:04] I was gonna throw it on my PPA, but I am guessing it will be on theirs soon so I am not going to waste my time [15:05] argh [15:05] dpatches are a PITA sometimes [15:06] laga: I haven't learned dpatches yet, but I need to modify mythexport so I guess I need to [15:07] there are other patch systems, too [15:07] I thought dpatch was prefered here [15:07] i just have to comment out some patches because i'm building mythtv-fixes.. [15:07] rhpot1991_laptop: dunno :) [15:07] rhpot1991_laptop: i hear superm1 likes dkms [15:07] he was the one who told me to use dpatch long ago [15:08] I'll have to ask him about it later [15:09] I have to go home and fix my wireless tonight too, stupid thing keeps bogging down to 1MB/s and stays there [15:09] mytht sure doesn't like streaming over that [15:15] * superm1 hides in the shadows [15:15] dkms is good for kernel modules when they will be changing in the middle of the cycle [15:15] laga, as for switching to the latest -fixes, i guess we can [15:15] dkms [15:15] i dont see the harm in it [15:16] dpatch for my simple junk though? [15:16] um.. there was another packaging system [15:16] cdbs! [15:16] cdbs is nice [15:16] oh cdbs is nice black magic [15:16] superm1: great about -fixes.. [15:16] but there is also quilt for patching systems [15:16] and just keeping the patches in bzr [15:16] in a different branch [15:17] that's how mplayer operates [15:20] argh [15:21] building mythtv just brought my box to the knees again [15:23] superm1: when I rebooted that card had a bitrate of 54, then after using it it dropped to 1 and mythtv got laggggggy [15:24] think its the new driver, I blacklisted the new one but I didn't have the old one on the system so its sitting there unreachable again till I carry it downstairs [15:24] rhpot1991_laptop, where you streaming video from your master? [15:24] foxbuntu: to the master [15:25] oh...well either way...whats the bitrate on the video you were streaming? [15:25] this is bitrate of the wireless [15:25] and it was SD video [15:25] yeah, the nuvs don't stream in the asx containers via ssh tunnel. If they stream some other way, I have not found it ....yet [15:25] at the default capture bitrates [15:25] should be ok [15:25] just sharing [15:25] not my normal super high capture bitrates [15:25] are you still using your higher bitrate for recording though? [15:26] ok [15:26] so 2200... [15:26] hmm [15:26] isn't it 4500/6500 by default? [15:26] laga, if you can, build the new svn -fixes co, and test $things, if there is no breakage, feel free to commit it to the branch and i'll touch it tonight [15:26] 4500/6000 I think [15:26] oh your right...2200 is just what it tells you is SD in the menus [15:27] superm1: commit it to the brnach? you mean, make one big diff for -fixes? [15:27] its using the new b43 driver [15:27] I saw some complaints about the same thing in the forums, no resolutions though [15:28] laga, no [15:28] i mean bumping debian/changelog [15:28] debian/rules [15:28] and removing the no longer needed patches [15:28] superm1: yeah, ok [15:28] cool. [15:28] rhpot1991_laptop, on your secondary box, does it have intarweb access? [15:28] superm1: can we do one last backport to gutsy one hardy goes final? [15:28] so if you get a working test build, that saves me about 20 minutes tonight building it and doing all that bumping [15:29] superm1: i'm doing test builds all the time ;) [15:29] laga, we'll see... [15:29] right now i'm building mythtv to find out why all the smurfiness happens for ATI users [15:29] something isn't quite right, but it should be easy to fix [15:29] laga, you really need ccache :) [15:29] superm1: heh, yes. [15:30] i'm just using dpkg-buildpackage -nc now ;) [15:30] (nc = no-clean) [15:30] i'm an ATI user [15:30] superm1: using the free driver? [15:30] and i dont watch smurf HBO [15:30] yeah [15:30] right now at least [15:30] superm1, why subject yourself to ati? :( [15:31] its in my laptop [15:31] so it works [15:31] foxbuntu: it did, before I blacklisted the driver it was using [15:32] superm1: it doesnt happen unless you enable "xv picture controls". [15:32] rhpot1991_laptop, well later when you have a chance, check it to get the 54 bitrate and then run a speed test at speakeasy or something and see if it drops back to 1 [15:32] foxbuntu: good call [15:33] I'd bet it would before that, when I start up a vnc connection [15:33] what type of card is this?? [15:34] belkin pci with a broadcom chipset [15:34] 43xx something [15:34] laga, well why would i turn that on? [15:34] superm1: to adjust contrast/brightness/color/hue [15:34] etc [15:34] I have a netgear WRT111G usb that I can try at some point [15:35] rhpot1991_laptop, havent we learned the belkin lesson yet? [15:35] it was a BF deal actually, same day the router was a BF deal as well [15:35] got them together [15:36] ah [15:36] so it was either free or darn close [15:36] now you have me checking newegg to see if they have any asus pci cards [15:36] ya, something like $3 after rebate [15:36] I think I got a PCI card, route, and PCMCIA card all for ~$20 [15:36] nice [15:37] nice, other than the fact that they all suck [15:37] well when they work [15:37] I have a linksys sitting in my parts bin at home [15:37] lol [15:38] I have my mancrush on asus anymore [15:38] no idea hiow I ended up with that since I never used PCI Wifi [15:39] I need to investigate and see if I can get > 54g on my routers [15:39] in theory I should be able to [15:39] not unless they have an ASIC processor and a > 6dbi antenna [15:40] well the box claims it can get 125mbps [15:40] wifi or lan? [15:40] wifi [15:40] thats with the broadcom afterburner or whatever [15:40] you ever do any wifi with xp? [15:40] maybe if you sit the AP on top of the box you want wifi to [15:41] I have this one xp box that wont work with wpa at all, only wep [15:41] drives me crazy [15:41] rhpot1991_laptop, yea [15:41] tried 2 different cards [15:41] and verified that the usb one works with my laptop but not with that box [15:42] using the windows setup util or the one supplied with the card? [15:42] foxbuntu: right now I have my main router, and another sitting next to my 360/wii/master backend [15:42] and what windows SP? [15:42] foxbuntu: both [15:42] sp2 [15:42] completely up to date [15:42] only thing is its xp home [15:42] if I could get 125 from router to router, then I'd buy another one to toss on top of my 2nd backend [15:42] well...it should still work I think [15:42] just start using routers instead of pci cards :) [15:43] ya, it should but it wont [15:43] I finally got fed up and let it on my wep ds feed which goes interweb only [15:43] I tihnk you have to manually setup the NIC advance wifi settings, then change it to WPA [15:44] foxbuntu, ^ http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=735053 [15:44] bye guys [15:44] cya [15:44] cya superm1 [15:46] foxbuntu: I noticed the last batch of updates that came through overwrite my custom lircd.conf [15:47] also want me to open a bug for the fusion lirc? [15:47] rhpot1991_laptop, its been doing that for awhile [15:48] it actually backs it up (or should) [15:48] ok, I'll keep one hanging around in my home dir then [15:48] let me check the backup to see which one it is [15:48] yep thats it [15:49] rhpot1991_laptop, wait (yeah i was just leaving), [15:49] lirc updates did? [15:49] or mlg updates did... [15:49] lirc [15:49] um.. [15:49] that's bad [15:49] please file a bug with your /etc/lirc/hardware.conf [15:49] anything else or just that? [15:50] yeah [15:50] mine was overwritten, too [15:50] that should be enough [15:50] my lircd.conf that is [15:50] it happened on 2 different boxes, with different drivers [15:50] well hopefully wasn't a big deal since all of them use "includes" [15:50] right? [15:50] well I had copies in my home dir [15:50] I normally drop them in /etc/lirc and run mlg on them [15:50] and don't use the links [15:50] mine tried to do it but I killed the reconfigure when it was upgrading [15:51] so did it ask you to overwrite it? [15:51] or it just "did" it? [15:51] just did [15:51] superm1, it just does it without telling you [15:51] well everyone please add as much information about this as possible to a single common lirc bug [15:51] not a pain once I knew what was going on, but the average user is gonna be bewildered [15:52] well, if they aren't doing anything custom it wouldn't break though [15:52] foxbuntu, yeah that's bad.. [15:52] also please put the circumstances in the bug [15:52] eg you were a fresh install [15:52] is anyone else already making a bug? [15:52] and chose remote X [15:52] or you had chosen "Custom" and such [15:52] rhpot1991_laptop, start it out, I will tag it later [15:53] alright [16:05] I wonder if it wouldn't have done it if I had blanked out REMOTE_LIRCD_CONF="imon/lircd.conf.imon-pad" in my hardware.conf [16:06] rhpot1991_laptop, idk...buit it shouldn't do that either way [16:07] bug is filed [17:02] how can i get to mythbuntu control center in kde? [17:07] aldaek, start it from the terminal [17:07] mythbuntu-control-centre [17:11] thanks... how do i add it to the menu so i dont have to keep doing that [17:12] IIRC there is a bug about that [17:12] but to add it yourself [17:12] do you know how to add something to the kstart menu? [17:12] still kind of new [17:12] sec [17:13] it's fixed in hardy, i've got it in my menu in "system" [17:14] aldaek, i use gnome, so I couldn't be much help. You can ask in $kde how to add a menu item [17:15] #kde [17:15] thanks [17:15] fsck [17:20] I'm running into the (what looks to be common) issue where myth coredumps on returning from LiveTV when using the openGl painter. Changing to the Qt painter solves this. I was wondering what the root cause of this is. Is it Myth? Mythbuntu? the Intel xorg driver? Ubuntu? (i'm using mythbuntu packages on 7.10) [17:21] nwahmaet: I think you can try choosing a different theme [17:22] nwahmaet: apport-gtk asks you to report a bug, right? [17:23] rhpot1991_laptop: it doesn't matter what the theme is (glass-wide, gant etc). if I change the themepainter to opengl myth coredumps; with qt it doesn't [17:24] laga: apport-gtk? no [17:24] i just see the coredump in the terminal/log [17:24] nwahmaet: is apport-gtk installed? [17:24] dunno (not at my mythbox right now). [17:25] nwahmaet: install it, then reproduce the crash. you should be asked to file a bug report... are you still using mythtv 0.20? [17:25] no [17:25] laga: sorry, shoudl have said i'm on .21. the crash only happened after the upgrade to .21 [17:26] ah, great [17:26] worked fine on .20 [17:26] because 0.20 won't receive any bug fixes ;) [17:41] does anyone here stream via mythweb? [17:44] just got confirmation that .nuv files don't stream at all [17:45] tuv0k: no, but i'd love to.... [17:45] sec, let me check [17:45] surlyjake, its pretty cool [17:46] once I get consistent stream activity [17:46] it would probably be better if my current connection was better [17:46] but if it were any better I could just download the file in a shorter time it'd take to stream [17:47] seems to work for me [17:47] well..... how do you do it? have a link? [17:47] <[_Snarf_]> what is it we're doing/ [17:47] streaming media from mythweb [17:47] <[_Snarf_]> Ah [17:47] it's in .21 by default [17:47] no link necessary [17:48] wow. guess i need to catch up [17:48] Tuv0k: have you tried via flash? [17:49] flash? no? [17:49] does it use VLC? convert to Flash? what clients are compatible? [17:49] expound? [17:49] surlyjake, setup mythweb , and just click the file you want to stream [17:50] it's an asx stream [17:50] I can't get vlc to play the .asx stream for nothing [17:50] whats this flash business? [17:50] mine opens in totem [17:50] you can enable the flash player in the mythweb settings [17:50] <[_Snarf_]> yeah [17:50] tgm4883_laptop: is that on the same box that has mythweb or a different one [17:51] same [17:51] you NEED ffmpeg that can do libmp3lame though [17:51] all my encoders are in one box [17:51] maybe thats where my problems are coming from, I am remote trying to access it [17:51] where is this option, in the mythweb settings? [17:51] I'm remote as well [17:51] very remote [17:51] <[_Snarf_]> mythweb settings->mythweb->Video Playback [17:51] rhpot1991_laptop, huh? I'm on my laptop and accessing my backend [17:51] if thats what you mean [17:52] ya thats what I meant [17:52] <[_Snarf_]> check Enable Video Playback [17:52] and yep [17:52] * Tuv0k checking settings [17:52] if you have multiple backends, that should be an easy fix with nfs shares [17:52] tgm4883_laptop: I never got around to doing that [17:52] keep finding other things to mess with [17:53] myth defaults to the local file. So if you NFS share it will use NFS over the mythtv protocol [17:53] Enable this feature at your own risk, and don't expect too muEnable this feature at your own risk, and don't expect too much official help until it has left the experimental phase. ch official help until it has left the experimental phase. [17:54] well I had it checked already [17:54] can't tell I'm getting any flash files [17:55] doh [17:55] <[_Snarf_]> go to Recorded Programs, pick a recorded show, should pop up a flash player on the right hand side [17:55] click on the thumbnail in recordings [17:55] it is working! [17:55] yep [17:55] I have been streaming via flash the whole time [17:55] <[_Snarf_]> hehe [17:55] its the flash thats dying out sometimes [17:55] and yes the flash does not work with .nuv as the red text states [17:55] ok [17:55] :) [17:56] there's a patch to make it use mencoder instead [17:56] this is my 32 bit box, I wonder how'd it fair on my 64bit box, which is the backend anyway [17:57] lets see if totem opens this asx [17:57] it did not last time I checked [17:57] Tuv0k: if you are on hardy, there isn't a 64bit ffmpeg with libmp3lame in medibuntu yet [17:57] oh [17:58] yeah totem can't determine the container type [17:58] Could not determine type of stream. [17:58] rhpot1991_laptop, i'm using a 64-bit backend and it works here [17:58] and a 64-bit laptop [17:58] tgm4883_laptop: flash with sound? [17:59] don't know if it's flash [17:59] the asx stream [17:59] ya that doesn't matter [17:59] only effects flash [18:00] ah ok [18:01] nothing i have plays this .asx file [18:01] weird [18:01] mplayer and vlc plays everything... [18:41] the flash stream works so long as its not interrupted [19:13] HI Ω ALL [19:14] HI @ ALL [19:14] would anyone please be so kind to tell me how to force the myhtfrontend to create a pidFile ??? [19:16] hey majoridiot_ [19:16] hola! [19:17] * majoridiot_ wonders why another idiot is still showing here [19:17] ping: superm1 ? [19:17] they are both you [19:18] superm1 is at work, prob wont respond [19:18] yeah... just wondering why. [19:18] they came in within seconds of each other [19:18] ah. about what time is he normally in? [19:18] hiccup prob [19:18] yup. [19:18] normally late afternoon/night [19:18] sometimes in the morning before work [19:19] hm... on my end. here is is. [19:19] ok... need to catch up with him to clarify some firewire things... [19:20] so i can start recoding all of that stuff. [19:20] I'll tell him you were looking for him and to respond to your email [19:20] hehe... he'll appreciate that. [19:20] I have another buddy with a motorola 42xx box, but his computer is busted, so depending on if he fixes that or not there might be another tester [19:20] i'll try and look back in for him later in the afternoon/evening. [19:21] might be 45xx actually, I forget [19:21] excellent. lots of moto boxes- also looking for SA testers and anyone else using firewire. [19:23] how stable is the 8.04 alpha? i'm assuming he will want me to work with that. [19:23] seems stable enough, I am using it in production [19:23] er... i see it's beta now. LOL [19:23] you might be able to get away with the backports on gutsy [19:23] 0.21 is 0.21 after all [19:24] we already have mythprime and firewire_tester included [19:24] but mythprime is compiled against the default ports [19:24] didn't know if it would make a difference or not. makes more sense to go with 8.04, since its the future. [19:24] right... that's part of what i'm fixing. [19:24] Hardy has been stable for me since it came out [19:24] yep [19:25] a few kernels I passed on, but nothing major [19:25] the latest kernel renders NO fonts console or otherwise for me [19:25] how that changes next kernel release [19:25] but not a show stopper [19:25] the new mythprime will accept any port or node, will be combined for both broadcast and p2p priming and will be totally c. [19:25] nice [19:26] that should solve all of our bugs then [19:26] I wish I could sort them by ones that I made [19:26] mythprime? [19:26] Tuv0k: for priming firewire devices [19:26] Tuv0k, its for recording via firewire [19:26] i also intend to do an auto-configure... which will look on the firewire bus, identify the stbs and choose the best method of priming. all info returned to the user for configuring the tuner in mythbackend. [19:27] oh [19:27] cool [19:27] majoridiot: will it take into account that the box likes to jump nodes on reboot? [19:27] and then the port, node and priming method passed along to whatever... to be added into the backend init script. [19:27] yes- first step will always be to reset the bus. [19:28] alright good [19:28] not 100% in all cases... but the best bet for most. [19:28] I haven't had that happen to recently [19:28] i really want to get this sorted so firewire is just a given for 99% of installs. [19:28] would anyone please be so kind to tell me how to force the myhtfrontend to create a pidFile ??? [19:30] majoridiot: that was the idea with including the binaries by default [19:30] but it didn't quite work out that way :) [19:31] hehe... i wish he would have let me know it was wanted. i would have jumped in sooner. [19:31] * majoridiot has been outta the loop for awhile [19:35] majoridiot: any idea if that mythprime can do daisy-chained boxes? [19:37] i'm planning on it... if i can find someone that has them, [19:37] do you? [19:40] yes [19:40] good. :D [19:40] one is mostly used to watch tv now, but they can be daisy chained [19:40] we'll have to discuss how you go about doing it manually to see if it will chance the planned process at all. [19:41] *change [19:42] but my intent is to include multi-stb capability. === MythbuntuGuest09 is now known as JoshT76 [19:46] hello [19:46] does transcoding run and complete before user jobs? [19:47] JoshT76: if you enabled it and made it execute on a recording then it should [19:47] it needs to be enabled in mythtv-setup first [19:48] cu @ all [19:48] exit [19:48] is trasnscoding good/bad? what does it do actually [19:48] ups [19:48] shrinks the file size [19:48] at the expense of cpu usage [19:49] ok does it affect burning to dvd? [19:49] does it change the codec [19:51] not that I am aware of, but I am not certain [19:52] ok === MythbuntuGuest40 is now known as JoshT76 [19:58] does the %DIR% argument for user jobs include the trailing /? should i say %DIR%/%FILE% or %DIR%%FILE%? [20:10] JoshT76, AFAIK, it should be %DIR%/%FILE% [20:18] k [20:20] ok... firewire box is built and installing 8.04 [20:24] * majoridiot likes the additions/changes to advanced installation :) [21:06] I gave in to the update manager nagging me to update my Mythbuntu 7.10 backend/frontend. [21:07] Now I get "The server uses network protocol version 40, but this client only understands version 31. Make sure you are running compatible versions of the backend and frontend." [21:07] when I try to connect to it with a client using the 7.10 liveCD frontend [21:07] OolonColluphid, seperate frontend and backend? [21:07] ah [21:07] yep [21:07] Need help w/ a frontend install on Via EPIA M1000. [21:07] yes, the 7.10 liveCD uses mythtv .20.2, while you are now using .21 [21:08] .20 and .21 are not compatible [21:08] Crashes at 83% [21:08] try using a 8.04 beta live disk [21:08] ah, OK good idea [21:09] seems strange to have a update within a version break things that badly [21:09] Can someone help? [21:09] what are they talking about? version 40 of what package, mythtv itself? [21:10] OolonColluphid, it's the mythtv protocol version [21:10] OK, so no way to easily roll back [21:11] tgm4883 thanks I'll give 8.04 a try [21:12] Install is crashing at 83% - installing 7.10 FRONTEND on Via EPIA 1000 [21:13] Checked the CD/ no errors... Memory Check - no errors... [21:18] Stemming78: Have you successfully installed anything on it before? [21:20] OolonColluphid: yah, I did... Used this install CD... Recently upgraded the RAM from 256 to 512/ not sure if that is the prob or if I am doing something wrong in the setup... Pasting the error log in a min... [21:21] have you checked to make sure you didn't loosen something else while installing the RAM? [21:22] OolonColluphid; havent cracked the case yet... [21:22] http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6079/ [21:23] http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6080/ [21:24] Im not sure if it errors if the password is not set to Backend machine; FAILED during setup... Or if it is something else other than Hardware... [21:25] Tried the install 3 times with each failing [21:27] what changed since the time you were able to install successfully, just the RAM or anything else? [21:29] Just replaced the Ram... Think I am using a different mouse as well USB converted to PS2 (adapter) [21:30] Is the error log pointing to Hardware? [21:30] Or settings? [21:31] Stemming78, did you check the connection to the backend while installing? [21:31] sorry, I couldn't say, I don't see anything but I'm no guru [21:31] err, in the installer [21:33] tgm4883_laptop: I did check the connection to backend; FAILED.... Trying to read the password off a TV and may have entered it wrong [21:33] Stemming78, you cannot install a frontend only machine unless you can connect to the backend machine [21:34] Ahh, that will cause it to crash... I am going to connect remotely to the BACKEND. Which directory / file holds the SQL information? [21:34] Nevermind; found it... [21:34] /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt [21:34] i believe [21:35] /.mythtv [21:35] /etc/mythtv/mythtv.txt on the backend is correct [21:35] mysql.txt [21:36] LOL too much mythtv typing lately... [21:36] ;) Got it... Is there any issue with screen going blank during install? [21:37] i have had it happen... try alt+tab [21:37] sometimes switching from .real fixes the video [21:37] Alt + Tab to disable? You say that can cause issue w/ installation? [21:37] not to disable [21:38] if it happens, try alt+tab a time or two... sometimes it helps. [21:38] ok [21:38] the 8.04 install i just did had goofy gfx. that fixed it. [21:39] Should I be installing the 7.10 (currently using) or install 8.04 Beta? [21:39] 7.10 [21:39] 8.04 is not compatible with 7.10 [21:39] Aquahallic: thanks for your input earlier, if fixed the smurf bug [21:39] 'lo laga [21:41] hi majoridiot [21:42] MySQL Server: [21:42] ? [21:43] Connection Failure - using the settings from sql.txt [21:44] Any other file to check the Backend IP address? [21:44] *stores the Backend IP [21:45] ifconfig on backend machine for backend ip address [21:45] location? [21:46] Telneted into the machine [21:46] in a terminal [21:46] $ ifconfig [21:46] will return all the network info [21:46] LOL [21:46] Stemming78: needs to be run as sudo [21:46] you needed the ip to telnet, no? [21:47] hah [21:47] Clarifacation: Backend Setup.... [21:47] *cahnge 127.0.0.1 to Backend IP [21:48] yup [21:48] in both fields [21:49] Thats the setting I am looking for; have my keyboard / mouse for Backend machine plugged into the "new" machine (frontend) so I am in a pickle here. [21:49] Telnet from my 3rd PC into the Backend; making sence? [21:49] you should be able to modify those with your remote [21:50] why not just open an X ssh session and run mythtv-setup? [21:51] or vnc if you installed it [21:51] or just hotplug the mouse and keyboard LOL [21:51] lotsa options here... [21:51] i'm attempting to try out streaming videos with webui using flash. [21:51] mcquaid: no sound? [21:52] no it's not even finding them. seems like a sym link issue [21:52] my videos are at /media/mythtv/myth1 i made a sym link under /var/www/mythweb/data called video pointing to /media/mythtv/myth1 [21:52] mcquaid: check the faqs in the topic [21:52] but in mythweb i get: The requested URL /mythweb/data/video//media/mythtv/myth1 [21:53] thanks guys :) [21:53] it's plugging in the full path of the sym link [21:53] yw [21:53] ok i'll check the faq [21:53] np Stemming78 [21:53] mcquaid: you are pretty much past the FAQs now [21:53] etra / in there maybe [21:53] extra [21:53] ya i notcied that [21:54] don't know how thats appearing [21:54] the sym link looks like any other [21:54] Alright; I verified the IP addresses are set correctly in Backend Setup (both fields) [21:54] mcquaid: do your symlinks end in a / [21:55] yes it does. doh [21:55] just fixed it ;) [21:55] Try changing the password? [21:56] sudo ln -s /media/mythtv/myth1 /var/www/mythweb/data/video [21:56] hehe [21:59] hmm still getting the double slash [21:59] I am at a stand still - not sure why I cannot get the Frontend to connect to the Backend... Both connected via RJ45 to same router; can hit the internet so connectivity is not the problem. [21:59] do i have to logout of mythweb? or restart apache? [21:59] Prob user error; just dont know were I am making the mistake. [22:00] mcquaid: restart apache: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart [22:00] Stemming78, run mythfrontend from a terminal and see what sort of errors it is giving [22:02] hmm, still there [22:02] did you verify the symlinks work [22:03] checking something else. i have sym links that also have trailing / [22:10] majoridiot: thanks for the tip... Entered Live CD and found I wasnt entering an IP address for the MySQL server; dumb mistake [22:10] * majoridiot is quite familiar with dumb mistakes [22:12] firewire primer in 8.04 works perfectly out-of-the box for me [22:12] good thing i coded it with my defaults.... heheheee. [22:12] majoridiot; you still green/sick? [22:12] over the flu, thanks for asking. [22:13] how'd you know i was sick? [22:13] cj*****@gmail.com [22:13] ah... 'lo cor. never put the two together. [22:14] majoridiot: it works for me OOB as well, until my box jumps nodes [22:14] that was some wicked flu. had it for 6 days, felt like hell for 10 [22:14] when is your box jumping nodes? when the computer restarts with the stb on? [22:15] Ive been there... Putting the boys in day care tomarrow so Im hoping I hoping it is done and over with.... [22:15] rhpot1991, i take it your stb like a broadcast connection, too? [22:15] yep [22:15] lol @ Stemming78... with kids in daycare it's NEVER over! [22:16] rhpot1991, yep to both Qs? [22:16] yep to broadcast [22:16] I had it jump nodes once when I rebooted [22:16] unplugged the STB and rebooted and it came back to the original [22:16] yes [22:16] haven't noticed it since [22:16] will a bus reset fix it? [22:17] seems like its ok now [22:17] how do you do a bus reset? [22:17] with firewire_tester -R [22:17] didn't try that [22:17] I wish I knew how to make it jump so I could try [22:17] just seemed to be a fluke thing [22:17] (will be built-in to the new primer) [22:18] it mostly is a fluke on moto boxes. some SA boxes are real problems, i've heard. [22:18] rhpot1991, would it be possible for me to get an ssh account on your box for hands-on testing? [22:19] * majoridiot is trustworthy and can provide references [22:19] foxbuntu: this wifi dies to 1Mb/s no matter what [22:19] and its randomly asking me for my network key again as if its dropping connection, though the signal never goes below 90% [22:19] majoridiot: I don't see why not [22:20] great. :) [22:20] it's a real time-saver. [22:20] just gotta watch we don't break things while my wife's soap opera is recording [22:20] rhpot1991, i probably will not need to, since you have a moto box too. [22:20] no testing during recording or livetv, no. [22:21] I have a real bad habit of sshing in at work and breaking things [22:21] then getting sad that I can't fix it from there [22:21] LOL [22:21] there are times when you need a physical hand [22:22] i gotta take care of a few things... i'll check back in a bit to see if superm1 is in. [22:22] later guys [22:23] cya [22:26] Frontend is not crashing so install will complete... [22:26] THanks [22:27] damn i still can't get rid of these sym link issues. [22:27] I am going to start w/ installing the Linksys WUSUB300N; followed these instructions: http://ubuntu-utah.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=530772 [22:29] Previous install; could not get the Modprobe to configure card at boot... Reading through the thread; use the currently installed nDiswrapper, switch to 1.43 or use the most current 1.52? [22:34] Need guideance; installing my wireless Linksys WUSB300N - following http://ubuntu-utah.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=530772 [22:35] Previous installation Modprob had to be run manually for NIC card to configure. [22:35] Stemming78, did you run modprobe again? [22:35] Had to each time at boot. [22:35] well yes [22:36] oh you want to not have to do that after every boot [22:36] Shouldnt that happen at boot; sudo ndiswrapper -m [22:36] what are you modprobing? [22:36] the driver. [22:36] *wireless driver. [22:37] IIRC you should add it to /etc/modules [22:37] Thinking it may be a prob w/ ndiswrapper - although I read somewhere you dont want to replace it as it is built for the Kernal [22:37] tgm4883_laptop: I did. [22:38] Solution I have found is to uninstall ndiswrapper and install 1.43; or should I go with the most current 1.52 [22:38] * tgm4883_laptop shrugs [22:39] i buy open source supported hardware [22:40] Or not do it all? I am confused as to what was causing the problem - the installation steps used or is it the something else such as ndiswrapper... === abarbacci1 is now known as abarbaccia [22:40] hey laga what's up [22:40] superm1: hey [22:42] hey abarbaccia [22:43] can you offer some help on compiling the lirc modules from source [22:44] i'm trying to compile the source from the package, then keep applying patches and recompiling until i can determine which patch fixes it so we can roll out an update [22:44] tgm4883_laptop: the card is functional in Linux enviroment... Checked before purchasing - cannot locate the RALink information... Anyways - I have had it working but it was intermittent (required manual configuration at boot). [22:44] abarbaccia: yeah.. what have you got now? [22:45] Stemming78, as nice as that is, I still cannot help you troubleshoot your ndiswrapper issue [22:45] ERROR: Kernel configuration is invalid. include/linux/autoconf.h or include/config/auto.conf are missing. [22:46] tgm4883_laptop: what would you recommend; install again w/ no changes to ndiswrapper or update it? [22:46] well updating it would be the easiest. Then if it still doesn't work you could reinstall [22:46] or rathere roll back ndiswrapper [22:47] how would I check which ver ndiswrapper is currently installed? [22:47] laga: you see the error. i've installed kernel source, linked, built the modules, configured, etc [22:47] the cvs version uses automake now and works without doing any of that [22:48] but still with all of that i still can't compile cvs [22:48] use synaptic. You can roll back to a previous version or lock versions if necessary [22:48] so.. the cvs version works.. but you cant compile cvs? [22:48] abarbaccia: #ubuntu-mythtv-dev :) [22:51] * rhpot1991 smashes anything with a belkin name on it [22:51] tgm4883_laptop: thanks [22:55] ok, i removed all but one directory in mythvideo. now mythweb doesn't seem to complain. it can find the files. i'll deal with the issue later of multiple dirs and mythweb [22:56] but it only gives me the option to download/watch in a player. i was trying to test the flash streaming [22:56] the flash streaming is there for recordings [23:02] whose totem is playing .asx files correctly if at all? [23:02] and which backend you using, gstreamer or xine? [23:05] well i didn't even try and open the stream in gnome, i was referring to the built in flash streaming [23:05] is that only for recordings? my understand is that doesn't work currently for nuv files, but i thought it worked for videos [23:05] I guess my comment was really meant for rhpot1991 [23:06] oops [23:06] from earlier in the day [23:06] sok [23:06] well, do you know if mythweb flash streaming is only for recordings? [23:07] Tuv0k, thats me [23:07] Tuv0k: mine only works with flash [23:07] my totem plays .asx [23:07] mcquaid: recordings only [23:07] ah [23:07] mcquaid: I think you can do music too, but I don't know about that [23:08] i only get a still frame in flash, never plays [23:08] mcquaid: but definitely not videos, just recordings [23:08] mcquaid: did you click play? [23:08] heh yes [23:08] mcquaid: and do you have ffmpeg installed [23:08] tgm4883_laptop, with what backend plz? [23:08] yes from medibuntu with mp3 support [23:08] I'm running mythbuntu 8.04 [23:09] talking to me? [23:09] cause that tells me nothing [23:09] gstreamer or xine? [23:10] rhpot1991, do recording streams work for you with flash? [23:10] mcquaid, for me yes [23:10] hmm [23:10] just don't transcode them [23:10] Tuv0k, oh heh, i thought you meant my mythbuntu backend [23:10] I mean which ever totem your referring to? [23:10] well flash automatically transcodes them no? based on the bitrate you choose [23:11] Tuv0k, i use the gstreamer backend to totem [23:11] mcquaid, so long as YOU don't transcode them [23:11] from 8.04 [23:12] Tuv0k, you mean if i transcoded somethiing on the backend (like chopped out commericals) then it won't play? [23:12] no [23:13] I meant if you transcoded the video out of its original format??? [23:13] commercial flagging have nothing to do with it [23:13] tgm4883_laptop, you got a .asx I could sample? [23:14] oh ok, i meant i transcode mine losslessly, permanently chopping out commercials but they stay in nuv [23:14] but i tried a video thatwas just recording but won't play [23:14] i don't see ffmpeg starting on the backend [23:15] they are not in nuv to begin with [23:15] they are transcoded to nuv [23:15] flash won't play .nuv files [23:15] they must remain mpg [23:15] mprg [23:15] mpeg [23:16] all my recordings are nuv. isn'tthat the default? [23:16] ugh [23:16] no [23:17] it is.. if you use a framegrabber card [23:17] or that plextor device. [23:17] mythtranscode makes them .nuv [23:17] what type of tuner card you have? [23:17] i have a bt878 [23:17] there you go [23:17] software tuner? [23:17] ya [23:17] ouch [23:17] sorry [23:18] ok , my totem plays .asx, just not from my box [23:18] I know why [23:18] its the ssh tunnel [23:19] to i can't record in anything but nuv? [23:19] so I [23:19] so I guess I'd have to actually forward my port 80, and setup mythweb login and passed [23:19] well at least I know my totem is fine [23:19] and I'll have to watch my video is flash [23:20] while leaving them in 2gb mpeg format so flash will transcode them [23:20] all very interesting [23:39] I want to try pci tv audio [23:42] nickserv register lacroix [23:43] nickserv set email bob_callaway@email.hal-pc.org [23:44] asmythe: it helps if you prepend a /..