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ubotuNew bug: #206270 in xserver-xorg-video-amd (main) "Please sync xserver-xorg-video-amd 2.7.7.7-1 (main) from Debian unstable (main)." [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20627000:06
Q-FUNKadded manually00:16
Q-FUNKbryce: thanks for the thumbs up.  btw, if all goes well, we'd actually have -geode out by the end of this week.  when that happens, I'll upload it and include transitional packages for those who upgrade from -amd.00:17
ubotuNew bug: #205927 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (main) "nvidia-glx doesn't work with RT kernel (dup-of: 197130)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20592703:01
ubotuNew bug: #205883 in compiz (main) "compiz slow after upgrade x60 hardy (dup-of: 177492)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20588303:40
ubotuNew bug: #205905 in compiz (main) "3D application display refresh incorrect when 3D desktop enabled (dup-of: 96991)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20590503:40
ubotuNew bug: #206337 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (restricted) "Using fglrx causes excessive hardware interrupts and an extremely slow system" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20633704:16
tjaaltonmorning05:47
tjaaltonbryce: I'll upload them today05:47
bryceheya tjaalton05:47
brycecool thanks.05:47
tjaalton~two week vacation over :/05:47
tjaaltonback to business :)05:47
brycehope you had fun!05:48
tjaaltonyeah, it was ok05:49
brycetjaalton: btw I did up a new script for us - http://people.ubuntu.com/~bryce/Xorg/status_current.html05:50
tjaaltondismantled the cruise control box from the car yesterday, need to replace some capacitors because it doesn't work right05:50
bryceit displays a high level summary of various bug lists folks have done05:50
tjaaltonah that one, yeah looks good05:51
brycewow, I'm all thumbs when it comes to cars.  If it ain't made out of wood or computer parts I'm useless05:51
tjaaltonhehe05:51
tjaaltonif I have the time I'll build an enclosure for the subwoower out of fiberglass & MDF, but it's too cold now :)05:52
tjaaltonbbl ->05:55
sorenI notice you put the vmmouse stuff in xorg.conf. Thanks for that.08:17
sorenHowever... :)08:17
sorenThe inputdevice you define is not in the default serverlayout, so it's not being used at all anyway.08:17
tjaaltonduh08:21
tjaaltonI thought I tested that08:21
tjaaltonso the autodetection code is buggy08:22
tjaaltonsince it doesn't honor the choices in the xorg.conf08:22
tjaaltonkeyboard is fine08:22
tjaaltonbryce: 915resolution is obsolete..08:36
brycetjaalton: is it not still required for i810?08:36
tjaaltonwell, for those who insist on using -i810 :)08:36
bryceso...08:37
tjaaltondrop the conflict08:37
brycehttp://launchpadlibrarian.net/12852302/xrandr-gui-472-387.png08:38
tjaaltonis there something new I should notice?-)08:46
bryceoh we're down to the fiddling details.  I shrunk it from 540x437 to 472x387 (bugs 203897, 204447).  Nothing exciting.08:47
ubotuLaunchpad bug 203897 in control-center "monitor resolution panel won't fit on 640x480 screen" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20389708:47
ubotuLaunchpad bug 204447 in gnome-control-center "Display capplet's border is too big" [Low,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20444708:47
tjaaltonoh right08:48
brycealso it's brown08:48
tjaaltonheh08:48
tjaaltondoes the color change depending on the theme?08:49
bryceno, but that would be sweet08:49
bryceI'd need some api for determining color schemes or something though.08:49
tjaaltonsoren: adding InputDevice to the ServerLayout shouldn't break anything, so I'll add that08:49
bryceeasy to hack in if I have a way of programmatically getting a preferred color08:49
* soren hugs tjaalton 08:49
sorentjaalton: Thanks muchly.08:50
brycebut the default gray/blue just looked too generic for Ubuntu08:50
bryceheya soren08:50
sorenHey bryce.08:51
tjaaltonbryce: ask kwwii/macslow, they ought to know08:52
* bryce waves to seb12808:52
brycetjaalton: ok good idea08:52
seb128hey bryce08:53
bryceseb128: $ apt-cache madison gnome-control-center08:53
brycegnome-control-center | 1:2.22.0-0ubuntu1 | http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hardy/main Packages08:53
brycegnome-control-center | 1:2.22.0-0ubuntu2 | http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hardy/main Sources08:53
brycewas there a build error with 0ubuntu2?08:54
bryce(re-building locally to doublecheck)08:54
sorenbryce: Ask launchpad?08:56
sorenbryce: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/1:2.22.0-0ubuntu208:56
brycehuh, that patch applies cleanly locally, I wonder why it failed there08:58
bryceaha09:01
Q-FUNKsounds like a familiar bug.  I recall encountering a similar boo-boo when building one of my packages09:07
bryceit's just a path issue in the patch09:08
Q-FUNKah09:08
seb128bryce: path issue? I though I gave it a build try, maybe I didn't09:09
bryceyeah I thought I did too.  no matter, I'll have an updated patch in a minute.09:09
seb128alright09:10
seb128what is weird is that you didn't get the build failure mails from launchpad09:11
ubotuNew bug: #206417 in xorg (main) "Poor X.org performances in Hardy Beta" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20641709:11
bryceactually I might have.  I get a lot of bug mail and don't always read it right away.  I need better filters.09:15
seb128you might want to create a filter for launchpad build errors09:16
seb128you usually want to fix those ;-)09:16
bryceyeah, esp. once I get my upload powers tomorrow :-) :-)09:18
seb128;-)09:18
bryceok, seems to build locally for me.  http://people.ubuntu.com/~bryce/Uploads/gnome-control-center_2.22.0-0ubuntu3_source.changes09:20
brycethat also includes some fairly trivial glade tweaks to fix two bugs you assigned me09:21
bryceI like cosmetic bugs soo much more than the daemon bugs ;-)09:21
seb128bryce: I'll sponsor the upload09:21
seb128bryce: btw dunno if you followed the discussion but g-s-d seem to still be crashing when using xgl09:21
seb128not sure how much we care about xgl nowadays though09:21
bryceoh also, with that annoying xgl bug, the patch I sent you the other week included a check for xgl, that we're missing09:21
seb128ah, ok09:22
seb128is there something else which was waiting for sponsoring?09:22
bryceyeah, I posted a proof of concept that extracts the xgl portion of the patch you didn't like.  Please review it and see if it is more ok to you, and I'll do up a proper patch to gsd to include it.09:22
brycelet me check.09:22
brycemaybe this one?09:24
brycegnome-desktop (1:2.22.0-0ubuntu3) hardy; urgency=low09:24
bryce  * debian/patches/103_gd-xrandr-xerror-check.patch:09:24
bryce    - Catch X error thrown and exit function gracefully (LP: #199960)09:24
bryce    - Don't try to apply store config to undefined screens (LP: #197645)09:24
bryce -- Bryce Harrington <bryce@ubuntu.com>  Mon, 17 Mar 2008 15:00:32 -070009:24
bryce(it's also at http://people.ubuntu.com/~bryce/Uploads/)09:25
seb128ah09:25
seb128I though I read about it on some bugs09:26
brycemaybe the fix you put in make those unnecessary.  Not really sure.09:26
seb128but the mail you sent me was listing only the g-c-c one09:26
Q-FUNKseb128: any opinion on an UVF for amd 2.7.7.7?09:26
seb128no clue about this one, bug fix versions are welcome09:27
ubotuNew bug: #206055 in firefox (universe) "severe performance degration in Firefox 3 (dup-of: 177492)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20605509:36
ubotuNew bug: #206431 in xserver-xorg-video-sis (main) "at higher resolution there is "vertical noise" on the screen" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20643109:36
tjaaltonbryce: intel uploaded09:40
brycetjaalton: awesome thanks.  I also just emailed mirco about the theme stuff for xrandr gui09:40
tjaaltoncool09:43
tjaaltondexconf change pushed but not uploaded, in case there will be others09:45
ubotuNew bug: #206440 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (main) "emerging menus displaced when changed to two screens configuration wiht xrandr" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20644009:51
ubotuNew bug: #204516 in moblin-applets "Network manager icon is blank on statusbar and it shows "Network manager is not running" when click the blank icon though internet connection is good (dup-of: 199486)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20451610:01
seb128bryce: your new g-c-c update has the same issue, the patch doesn't apply10:04
seb128hum, no10:07
seb128tried the wrong directory ;-)10:07
bryceahh10:07
seb128g-c-c uploaded10:09
brycethanks :-)10:23
seb128you are welcome, thank you for the fixes there ;-)10:25
seb128we should start working on a revert strategy for the xrandr capplet10:25
ubotuNew bug: #206450 in xorg (main) "Cannot change graphics card driver in gui" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20645010:26
seb128I'm not comfortable shipping hardy with something which can break your installation that easily10:26
seb128did you contact the redhat guy about the issue?10:27
bryceyes10:27
bryceno response so far10:27
tjaaltonbryce: got an email from AMD about a patch for vesa (from fedora..), should fix the rest of the mode problems10:27
brycetjaalton: excellent10:33
bryceseb128: bug 197645 is the gsd patch.10:55
ubotuLaunchpad bug 197645 in gnome-settings-daemon "gnome-settings-daemon crashed with SIGSEGV in rw_screen_list_outputs()" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/19764510:55
* bryce --> bed. night.10:55
seb128ok10:57
seb128'night bryce10:57
tjaaltonnight10:58
ubotuNew bug: #203386 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (restricted) "Xorg crashed with SIGSEGV in _nv000828X()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20338611:08
ubotuNew bug: #205281 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (restricted) "Xorg crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20528111:08
ubotuNew bug: #206287 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (main) "Open GL Renders "Funny"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20628711:52
Ngtjaalton: who do you think we could/should push about 197929?12:02
tjaaltonNg: BenC12:04
Nghmm, k12:05
tjaaltonI'll ask him12:06
Ngaha, cool12:06
NgI've mentioned it to kernel people a couple of times and while they were theoretically supporting, they were too busy to do it at the time12:07
Ngthanks :)12:07
tjaaltonNg: I guess it'll get reverted soon, mjg59 ack'ed it himself12:38
NgI hope so12:40
NgI'm more hopeful because ben just targetted the bug for hardy12:40
NgI've seen mjg ack on this before ;)12:40
ubotuNew bug: #152258 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 (main) "nvidia driver doesn't work with linux-rt on gutsy" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/15225812:41
ubotuNew bug: #16842 in xorg (main) "xorg.conf is not configured correctly for a Compaq Presario 1800T laptop" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1684213:26
ubotuNew bug: #201436 in xorg (main) "[hardy] Nautilus ignores clicks on icons after selecting an empty desktop area." [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20143614:54
ubotuNew bug: #206566 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (main) "after rotating by 180 nothing but background is shown" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20656615:19
komputesHey bryce15:30
komputesX being able to auto configure is a good goal, but they should leave the old tools until it has been thoroughly tested here we are that I need to know which video drivers in use. Before I could just open xorg.conf (not the best indication of the driver in use). When I run dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg to get the user-interactive method to configure X, it skips over all the video questions. So if X makes the wrong c15:39
komputeshoice people now have to change the file manually which is not good and prone to errors. What I would like to know is if any of you have a command that will tell you what video driver(s) is in use. I have tried looking in /var/log/Xorg.0.log, but it only gives a hint of what the driver is, well it's not very efficient (or saleable), although it may be more reliable than looking at an old xorg.conf file. What would be a pr15:39
komputesogrammatic method of polling the computer for a driver name in use?15:39
komputesX being able to auto configure is a good goal, but they should leave the old tools until it has been thoroughly tested here we are that I need to know which video drivers in use. Before I could just open xorg.conf (not the best indication of the driver in use). When I run dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg to get the user-interactive method to configure X, it skips over all the video questions. So if X makes the wrong c15:39
komputeshoice people now have to change the file manually which is not good and prone to errors. What I would like to know is if any of you have a command that will tell you what video driver(s) is in use. I have tried looking in /var/log/Xorg.0.log, but it only gives a hint of what the driver is, well it's not very efficient (or saleable), although it may be more reliable than looking at an old xorg.conf file. What would be a pr15:39
komputesogrammatic method of polling the computer for a driver name in use?15:39
komputessorry, doublepaste15:39
ubotuNew bug: #206649 in xorg (main) "ubuntu does not support xinput hotplug" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20664917:11
ubotuNew bug: #205987 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (main) "X slowdowns in Hardy Beta" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20598718:49
ubotuNew bug: #206587 in ubuntu "Title bar color streaks or dissapears (dup-of: 186382)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20658718:56
ubotuNew bug: #202359 in firefox (universe) "[Firefox 3 b4] zoom -> black picture (dup-of: 182038)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20235919:07
brycedoko, it may also be worthwhile to doublecheck the compiz blacklist (sometimes they add to it)  bug #20133019:17
ubotuLaunchpad bug 201330 in compiz "Need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20133019:17
ubotuNew bug: #206528 in xrandr "gnome-display-properties: no way to set which is the primary monitor" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20652820:06
tjaaltonbryce: seems like there's no TB tonight :/20:18
brycetjaalton: hrm bummer.20:19
brycecan't believe how long it's taking for this to get through :-P  Sorry about it20:19
tjaaltonhehe, don't worry about it20:20
tjaaltonI guess they need to regroup now that mjg59 is a RH employee..20:21
brycehe joined RH??  I hadn't heard that.  Whoa.20:22
brycethat sucks20:22
tjaaltonyep, was mentioned on planet.fd.o20:23
tjaaltonwell, he's going to work full-time on power management and stuff20:24
jcristauhe announced it on his blog20:24
tjaaltonand that's upstream work, so it'll benefit us all in the end20:24
bryceyeah, still20:24
tjaaltonjcristau: right, but for some reason that entry was not on p.u.c/p.d.o :)20:25
brycewow, I didn't know about planet.fd.org.  Lotta interesting stuff there20:27
tjaaltonbtw, in order for the mouse-section from xorg.conf to work it needs to have CorePointer set, otherwise the same device is used twice20:27
tjaaltonyeah, I follow that regularly20:27
tjaaltonF9 switched to evdev, suckers :P20:28
bryceI see they're going to squeeze in xorg 1.5.20:29
tjaaltonyep20:29
brycetjaalton: did you know that travis blacklisted all laptops with -ati from running compiz?20:30
bryce(bug #197135)20:31
ubotuLaunchpad bug 197135 in compiz "need to blacklist xpress200m when using ati driver" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/19713520:31
tjaaltonI heard a rumour about it20:36
tjaaltontoo bad..20:37
tjaaltonbbl->20:37
brycetjaalton: yet another quirk - 19774020:47
ubotuNew bug: #206802 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (restricted) "fglrx doesn't detect external monitor" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20680221:06
tjaaltonbryce: thanks, I'll upload it tomorrow and include other patches/quirks if there are any21:44
bryceok21:47
mario_limoncielltjaalton, have you put some more thought into a planned solution for that 386/generic bug at all?22:24
tjaaltonmario_limonciell: I've read the policy bits and seems like the solution that pitti suggested should work22:27
ubotuNew bug: #206845 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "X server freezes (except for mouse) with Compiz enabled on ATI Radeon Mobility 9000" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20684522:41
mario_limonciellgreat :)22:44
ubotuNew bug: #206820 in xorg (main) "whatever is writing xorg.conf isn't doing as good a job as 7.10" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20682022:53

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