[00:06] <ubotu> New bug: #206270 in xserver-xorg-video-amd (main) "Please sync xserver-xorg-video-amd 2.7.7.7-1 (main) from Debian unstable (main)." [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/206270
[00:16] <Q-FUNK> added manually
[00:17] <Q-FUNK> bryce: thanks for the thumbs up.  btw, if all goes well, we'd actually have -geode out by the end of this week.  when that happens, I'll upload it and include transitional packages for those who upgrade from -amd.
[03:01] <ubotu> New bug: #205927 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (main) "nvidia-glx doesn't work with RT kernel (dup-of: 197130)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/205927
[03:40] <ubotu> New bug: #205883 in compiz (main) "compiz slow after upgrade x60 hardy (dup-of: 177492)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/205883
[03:40] <ubotu> New bug: #205905 in compiz (main) "3D application display refresh incorrect when 3D desktop enabled (dup-of: 96991)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/205905
[04:16] <ubotu> New bug: #206337 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (restricted) "Using fglrx causes excessive hardware interrupts and an extremely slow system" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/206337
[05:47] <tjaalton> morning
[05:47] <tjaalton> bryce: I'll upload them today
[05:47] <bryce> heya tjaalton
[05:47] <bryce> cool thanks.
[05:47] <tjaalton> ~two week vacation over :/
[05:47] <tjaalton> back to business :)
[05:48] <bryce> hope you had fun!
[05:49] <tjaalton> yeah, it was ok
[05:50] <bryce> tjaalton: btw I did up a new script for us - http://people.ubuntu.com/~bryce/Xorg/status_current.html
[05:50] <tjaalton> dismantled the cruise control box from the car yesterday, need to replace some capacitors because it doesn't work right
[05:50] <bryce> it displays a high level summary of various bug lists folks have done
[05:51] <tjaalton> ah that one, yeah looks good
[05:51] <bryce> wow, I'm all thumbs when it comes to cars.  If it ain't made out of wood or computer parts I'm useless
[05:51] <tjaalton> hehe
[05:52] <tjaalton> if I have the time I'll build an enclosure for the subwoower out of fiberglass & MDF, but it's too cold now :)
[05:55] <tjaalton> bbl ->
[08:17] <soren> I notice you put the vmmouse stuff in xorg.conf. Thanks for that.
[08:17] <soren> However... :)
[08:17] <soren> The inputdevice you define is not in the default serverlayout, so it's not being used at all anyway.
[08:21] <tjaalton> duh
[08:21] <tjaalton> I thought I tested that
[08:22] <tjaalton> so the autodetection code is buggy
[08:22] <tjaalton> since it doesn't honor the choices in the xorg.conf
[08:22] <tjaalton> keyboard is fine
[08:36] <tjaalton> bryce: 915resolution is obsolete..
[08:36] <bryce> tjaalton: is it not still required for i810?
[08:36] <tjaalton> well, for those who insist on using -i810 :)
[08:37] <bryce> so...
[08:37] <tjaalton> drop the conflict
[08:38] <bryce> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/12852302/xrandr-gui-472-387.png
[08:46] <tjaalton> is there something new I should notice?-)
[08:47] <bryce> oh we're down to the fiddling details.  I shrunk it from 540x437 to 472x387 (bugs 203897, 204447).  Nothing exciting.
[08:47] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 203897 in control-center "monitor resolution panel won't fit on 640x480 screen" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/203897
[08:47] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 204447 in gnome-control-center "Display capplet's border is too big" [Low,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/204447
[08:48] <tjaalton> oh right
[08:48] <bryce> also it's brown
[08:48] <tjaalton> heh
[08:49] <tjaalton> does the color change depending on the theme?
[08:49] <bryce> no, but that would be sweet
[08:49] <bryce> I'd need some api for determining color schemes or something though.
[08:49] <tjaalton> soren: adding InputDevice to the ServerLayout shouldn't break anything, so I'll add that
[08:49] <bryce> easy to hack in if I have a way of programmatically getting a preferred color
[08:49]  * soren hugs tjaalton 
[08:50] <soren> tjaalton: Thanks muchly.
[08:50] <bryce> but the default gray/blue just looked too generic for Ubuntu
[08:50] <bryce> heya soren
[08:51] <soren> Hey bryce.
[08:52] <tjaalton> bryce: ask kwwii/macslow, they ought to know
[08:52]  * bryce waves to seb128
[08:52] <bryce> tjaalton: ok good idea
[08:53] <seb128> hey bryce
[08:53] <bryce> seb128: $ apt-cache madison gnome-control-center
[08:53] <bryce> gnome-control-center | 1:2.22.0-0ubuntu1 | http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hardy/main Packages
[08:53] <bryce> gnome-control-center | 1:2.22.0-0ubuntu2 | http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hardy/main Sources
[08:54] <bryce> was there a build error with 0ubuntu2?
[08:54] <bryce> (re-building locally to doublecheck)
[08:56] <soren> bryce: Ask launchpad?
[08:56] <soren> bryce: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/1:2.22.0-0ubuntu2
[08:58] <bryce> huh, that patch applies cleanly locally, I wonder why it failed there
[09:01] <bryce> aha
[09:07] <Q-FUNK> sounds like a familiar bug.  I recall encountering a similar boo-boo when building one of my packages
[09:08] <bryce> it's just a path issue in the patch
[09:08] <Q-FUNK> ah
[09:09] <seb128> bryce: path issue? I though I gave it a build try, maybe I didn't
[09:09] <bryce> yeah I thought I did too.  no matter, I'll have an updated patch in a minute.
[09:10] <seb128> alright
[09:11] <seb128> what is weird is that you didn't get the build failure mails from launchpad
[09:11] <ubotu> New bug: #206417 in xorg (main) "Poor X.org performances in Hardy Beta" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/206417
[09:15] <bryce> actually I might have.  I get a lot of bug mail and don't always read it right away.  I need better filters.
[09:16] <seb128> you might want to create a filter for launchpad build errors
[09:16] <seb128> you usually want to fix those ;-)
[09:18] <bryce> yeah, esp. once I get my upload powers tomorrow :-) :-)
[09:18] <seb128> ;-)
[09:20] <bryce> ok, seems to build locally for me.  http://people.ubuntu.com/~bryce/Uploads/gnome-control-center_2.22.0-0ubuntu3_source.changes
[09:21] <bryce> that also includes some fairly trivial glade tweaks to fix two bugs you assigned me
[09:21] <bryce> I like cosmetic bugs soo much more than the daemon bugs ;-)
[09:21] <seb128> bryce: I'll sponsor the upload
[09:21] <seb128> bryce: btw dunno if you followed the discussion but g-s-d seem to still be crashing when using xgl
[09:21] <seb128> not sure how much we care about xgl nowadays though
[09:21] <bryce> oh also, with that annoying xgl bug, the patch I sent you the other week included a check for xgl, that we're missing
[09:22] <seb128> ah, ok
[09:22] <seb128> is there something else which was waiting for sponsoring?
[09:22] <bryce> yeah, I posted a proof of concept that extracts the xgl portion of the patch you didn't like.  Please review it and see if it is more ok to you, and I'll do up a proper patch to gsd to include it.
[09:22] <bryce> let me check.
[09:24] <bryce> maybe this one?
[09:24] <bryce> gnome-desktop (1:2.22.0-0ubuntu3) hardy; urgency=low
[09:24] <bryce>   * debian/patches/103_gd-xrandr-xerror-check.patch:
[09:24] <bryce>     - Catch X error thrown and exit function gracefully (LP: #199960)
[09:24] <bryce>     - Don't try to apply store config to undefined screens (LP: #197645)
[09:24] <bryce>  -- Bryce Harrington <bryce@ubuntu.com>  Mon, 17 Mar 2008 15:00:32 -0700
[09:25] <bryce> (it's also at http://people.ubuntu.com/~bryce/Uploads/)
[09:25] <seb128> ah
[09:26] <seb128> I though I read about it on some bugs
[09:26] <bryce> maybe the fix you put in make those unnecessary.  Not really sure.
[09:26] <seb128> but the mail you sent me was listing only the g-c-c one
[09:26] <Q-FUNK> seb128: any opinion on an UVF for amd 2.7.7.7?
[09:27] <seb128> no clue about this one, bug fix versions are welcome
[09:36] <ubotu> New bug: #206055 in firefox (universe) "severe performance degration in Firefox 3 (dup-of: 177492)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/206055
[09:36] <ubotu> New bug: #206431 in xserver-xorg-video-sis (main) "at higher resolution there is "vertical noise" on the screen" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/206431
[09:40] <tjaalton> bryce: intel uploaded
[09:40] <bryce> tjaalton: awesome thanks.  I also just emailed mirco about the theme stuff for xrandr gui
[09:43] <tjaalton> cool
[09:45] <tjaalton> dexconf change pushed but not uploaded, in case there will be others
[09:51] <ubotu> New bug: #206440 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (main) "emerging menus displaced when changed to two screens configuration wiht xrandr" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/206440
[10:01] <ubotu> New bug: #204516 in moblin-applets "Network manager icon is blank on statusbar and it shows "Network manager is not running" when click the blank icon though internet connection is good (dup-of: 199486)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/204516
[10:04] <seb128> bryce: your new g-c-c update has the same issue, the patch doesn't apply
[10:07] <seb128> hum, no
[10:07] <seb128> tried the wrong directory ;-)
[10:07] <bryce> ahh
[10:09] <seb128> g-c-c uploaded
[10:23] <bryce> thanks :-)
[10:25] <seb128> you are welcome, thank you for the fixes there ;-)
[10:25] <seb128> we should start working on a revert strategy for the xrandr capplet
[10:26] <ubotu> New bug: #206450 in xorg (main) "Cannot change graphics card driver in gui" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/206450
[10:26] <seb128> I'm not comfortable shipping hardy with something which can break your installation that easily
[10:27] <seb128> did you contact the redhat guy about the issue?
[10:27] <bryce> yes
[10:27] <bryce> no response so far
[10:27] <tjaalton> bryce: got an email from AMD about a patch for vesa (from fedora..), should fix the rest of the mode problems
[10:33] <bryce> tjaalton: excellent
[10:55] <bryce> seb128: bug 197645 is the gsd patch.
[10:55] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 197645 in gnome-settings-daemon "gnome-settings-daemon crashed with SIGSEGV in rw_screen_list_outputs()" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/197645
[10:55]  * bryce --> bed.  night.
[10:57] <seb128> ok
[10:57] <seb128> 'night bryce
[10:58] <tjaalton> night
[11:08] <ubotu> New bug: #203386 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (restricted) "Xorg crashed with SIGSEGV in _nv000828X()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/203386
[11:08] <ubotu> New bug: #205281 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (restricted) "Xorg crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/205281
[11:52] <ubotu> New bug: #206287 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (main) "Open GL Renders "Funny"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/206287
[12:02] <Ng> tjaalton: who do you think we could/should push about 197929?
[12:04] <tjaalton> Ng: BenC
[12:05] <Ng> hmm, k
[12:06] <tjaalton> I'll ask him
[12:06] <Ng> aha, cool
[12:07] <Ng> I've mentioned it to kernel people a couple of times and while they were theoretically supporting, they were too busy to do it at the time
[12:07] <Ng> thanks :)
[12:38] <tjaalton> Ng: I guess it'll get reverted soon, mjg59 ack'ed it himself
[12:40] <Ng> I hope so
[12:40] <Ng> I'm more hopeful because ben just targetted the bug for hardy
[12:40] <Ng> I've seen mjg ack on this before ;)
[12:41] <ubotu> New bug: #152258 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 (main) "nvidia driver doesn't work with linux-rt on gutsy" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/152258
[13:26] <ubotu> New bug: #16842 in xorg (main) "xorg.conf is not configured correctly for a Compaq Presario 1800T laptop" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/16842
[14:54] <ubotu> New bug: #201436 in xorg (main) "[hardy] Nautilus ignores clicks on icons after selecting an empty desktop area." [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/201436
[15:19] <ubotu> New bug: #206566 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (main) "after rotating by 180 nothing but background is shown" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/206566
[15:30] <komputes> Hey bryce
[15:39] <komputes> X being able to auto configure is a good goal, but they should leave the old tools until it has been thoroughly tested here we are that I need to know which video drivers in use. Before I could just open xorg.conf (not the best indication of the driver in use). When I run dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg to get the user-interactive method to configure X, it skips over all the video questions. So if X makes the wrong c
[15:39] <komputes> hoice people now have to change the file manually which is not good and prone to errors. What I would like to know is if any of you have a command that will tell you what video driver(s) is in use. I have tried looking in /var/log/Xorg.0.log, but it only gives a hint of what the driver is, well it's not very efficient (or saleable), although it may be more reliable than looking at an old xorg.conf file. What would be a pr
[15:39] <komputes> ogrammatic method of polling the computer for a driver name in use?
[15:39] <komputes> X being able to auto configure is a good goal, but they should leave the old tools until it has been thoroughly tested here we are that I need to know which video drivers in use. Before I could just open xorg.conf (not the best indication of the driver in use). When I run dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg to get the user-interactive method to configure X, it skips over all the video questions. So if X makes the wrong c
[15:39] <komputes> hoice people now have to change the file manually which is not good and prone to errors. What I would like to know is if any of you have a command that will tell you what video driver(s) is in use. I have tried looking in /var/log/Xorg.0.log, but it only gives a hint of what the driver is, well it's not very efficient (or saleable), although it may be more reliable than looking at an old xorg.conf file. What would be a pr
[15:39] <komputes> ogrammatic method of polling the computer for a driver name in use?
[15:39] <komputes> sorry, doublepaste
[17:11] <ubotu> New bug: #206649 in xorg (main) "ubuntu does not support xinput hotplug" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/206649
[18:49] <ubotu> New bug: #205987 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (main) "X slowdowns in Hardy Beta" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/205987
[18:56] <ubotu> New bug: #206587 in ubuntu "Title bar color streaks or dissapears (dup-of: 186382)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/206587
[19:07] <ubotu> New bug: #202359 in firefox (universe) "[Firefox 3 b4] zoom -> black picture (dup-of: 182038)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/202359
[19:17] <bryce> doko, it may also be worthwhile to doublecheck the compiz blacklist (sometimes they add to it)  bug #201330
[19:17] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 201330 in compiz "Need to whitelist multiple ATI cards, or remove blacklisting" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/201330
[20:06] <ubotu> New bug: #206528 in xrandr "gnome-display-properties: no way to set which is the primary monitor" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/206528
[20:18] <tjaalton> bryce: seems like there's no TB tonight :/
[20:19] <bryce> tjaalton: hrm bummer.
[20:19] <bryce> can't believe how long it's taking for this to get through :-P  Sorry about it
[20:20] <tjaalton> hehe, don't worry about it
[20:21] <tjaalton> I guess they need to regroup now that mjg59 is a RH employee..
[20:22] <bryce> he joined RH??  I hadn't heard that.  Whoa.
[20:22] <bryce> that sucks
[20:23] <tjaalton> yep, was mentioned on planet.fd.o
[20:24] <tjaalton> well, he's going to work full-time on power management and stuff
[20:24] <jcristau> he announced it on his blog
[20:24] <tjaalton> and that's upstream work, so it'll benefit us all in the end
[20:24] <bryce> yeah, still
[20:25] <tjaalton> jcristau: right, but for some reason that entry was not on p.u.c/p.d.o :)
[20:27] <bryce> wow, I didn't know about planet.fd.org.  Lotta interesting stuff there
[20:27] <tjaalton> btw, in order for the mouse-section from xorg.conf to work it needs to have CorePointer set, otherwise the same device is used twice
[20:27] <tjaalton> yeah, I follow that regularly
[20:28] <tjaalton> F9 switched to evdev, suckers :P
[20:29] <bryce> I see they're going to squeeze in xorg 1.5.
[20:29] <tjaalton> yep
[20:30] <bryce> tjaalton: did you know that travis blacklisted all laptops with -ati from running compiz?
[20:31] <bryce> (bug #197135)
[20:31] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 197135 in compiz "need to blacklist xpress200m when using ati driver" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/197135
[20:36] <tjaalton> I heard a rumour about it
[20:37] <tjaalton> too bad..
[20:37] <tjaalton> bbl->
[20:47] <bryce> tjaalton: yet another quirk - 197740
[21:06] <ubotu> New bug: #206802 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (restricted) "fglrx doesn't detect external monitor" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/206802
[21:44] <tjaalton> bryce: thanks, I'll upload it tomorrow and include other patches/quirks if there are any
[21:47] <bryce> ok
[22:24] <mario_limonciell> tjaalton, have you put some more thought into a planned solution for that 386/generic bug at all?
[22:27] <tjaalton> mario_limonciell: I've read the policy bits and seems like the solution that pitti suggested should work
[22:41] <ubotu> New bug: #206845 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "X server freezes (except for mouse) with Compiz enabled on ATI Radeon Mobility 9000" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/206845
[22:44] <mario_limonciell> great :)
[22:53] <ubotu> New bug: #206820 in xorg (main) "whatever is writing xorg.conf isn't doing as good a job as 7.10" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/206820