[00:00] <untruehero> Could I bother someone for help with an install problem I'm having?
[00:00] <Odd-rationale> thisdyu: lspci
[00:00] <michalski> untreuhero: yes
[00:00] <digitalslave> anaoum, youve never messed with tomcat have you :)
[00:00] <arcticpenguin380> my gnome 2.22 settings wont screw up 2.20?
[00:00] <thisdyu> ty
[00:00] <unop_> untruehero, ask
[00:00] <Flannel> arcticpenguin380: You shouldn't have too much trouble, could be a few programs that updated their configs
[00:00] <Dannyboi> legend2440, that is no help at all I'm afraid  " To get Compiz Fusion working you have to additionally install xserver-xgl. This will then allow you to boot into XGL and use the built in effects. I’m not sure yet if you need to write a custom startup XGL script or not. I don’t think so and will test this shortly."
[00:00] <untruehero> i tried installing SageTV... I was hoping I could give it a test run
[00:00] <BagelMaster> There IS a codec that will play .m4a files, right?
[00:01] <anaoum> digitalslave: tomcat - yes i have. why??
[00:01] <untruehero> But about halfway through it asked for an activation key, I don't have one so I just tried closing the install
[00:01] <Itaku> e107 requires PHP to be installed or compiled with the MySQL extension to work correctly, please see the MySQL manual for more information. How do i fix that. I installed PHP5 but i get that when i try to install it.
[00:01] <nith> BagelMaster: I'll check
[00:01] <digitalslave> anaoum, under debian?
[00:01] <Dannyboi> I dont even know what XGL means, im a n00b at this, i thought Ubuntu was for people like me who just WANT IT TO WORK WOTHOUT MESSING AROUND lol.
[00:01] <unop_> BagelMaster, install the mplayer or w32codecs and you have it
[00:01] <untruehero> Now that's is screwing up anything else I try and install
[00:01] <mad_max02> Dannyboi, just install newest ati drivers or nvidia
[00:01] <legend2440> Dannyboi: so you have restricted driver enabled?
[00:01] <anaoum> digitalslave: no lol
[00:01] <BagelMaster> unup_ and nith, thanks
[00:01] <anaoum> what is the problem with it?
[00:01] <Dannyboi> how do I do that
[00:01] <mad_max02> Dannyboi, I presume you have ATI video card ?
[00:01] <untruehero> I'm getting the dpkg --configure -a error
[00:01] <Dannyboi> yes
[00:01] <icanhasadmin> Dannyboi: ati or nvidia?
[00:01] <scott_> what do I need to burn a dvd using a vedio_ts image?
[00:01] <michalski> desco: how you workin out?
[00:01] <anaoum> something to do with the jre?
[00:01] <Flannel> BagelMaster: assuming they're un-DRMed, yes.
[00:01] <Dannyboi> ati x1300
[00:02] <icanhasadmin> Dannyboi: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide#Method_2:_Install_the_Catalyst_8.3_Driver_Manually
[00:02] <Itaku> how do i make php5 working with the mysql extension
[00:02] <mad_max02> Dannyboi, XGL is old news and its not recommended any more since ati has aglx support
[00:02] <tanner> anyone know how to run a 32bit mplayer on 64bit ubuntu install?
[00:02] <digitalslave> trust me you dont want to debian seems to change port numbers and vertain things are broken and it just lays around and collects dust - very frustating for java developers!!
[00:02] <legend2440> Dannyboi: system>admin>restricted driver manager
[00:02] <LinuxTryer> Hello, can anyone suggest a place to ask about issues installing 7.10 on VMWare ESX?
[00:02] <mad_max02> Dannyboi, I'll paste you a link for ati drivers install
[00:02] <Flannel> Itaku: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP will get you all set up
[00:02] <mad_max02> Dannyboi, here you go man http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Main_Page
[00:02] <untruehero> so does anyone know how to quit an install when in the process through terminal?
[00:02] <Dannyboi> I tried the ati thing...it gets as far as installing the driver..but it asks me to remove fglrx first ?? yet that doesnt seem to exist
[00:02] <nith> BagelMaster: works for me
[00:02] <RxDx> how can i active the unstable repository of gutsy?
[00:03] <nith> BagelMaster: totem opened up, xmms wont though
[00:03] <Itaku> Flannel: i dont want lamp i just want php5 working with mysql
[00:03] <mad_max02> Dannyboi, u have a nice giude on that site. If that dont work u can try Envy but make sure that guide work out :D
[00:03] <anaoum> digitalslave: do you use the tomcat deb in the repos? or did u download it manually?
[00:03] <unop_> digitalslave, i find that hard to believe given java shouldn't really have to bother with the specifics of the system
[00:03] <Dannyboi> ok
[00:03] <Flannel> Itaku: That page explains how to get MySQL and php5 working, just skip through the apache bits
[00:03] <mad_max02> Dannyboi, you have to remove everything u installed :D
[00:04] <digitalslave> in their repos and there are many like that its better to just build it yourself
[00:04] <mad_max02> Dannyboi, if nothing works try envy but I assure you that guide is good since I installed drivers like that when I had ati video card
[00:04] <fevel> can someone help me set up the python interpreter on eclipse?  my python installation doesnt seem to be on /usr/bin/python and I cant find it
[00:04] <digitalslave> unop_, em for an app server specifics help
[00:05] <wuxia> OT: is there anyway to get strace to show _ALL_ arguments ? if not, is there a tool similar to strace?
[00:05] <sivel_> I have a dell latitude d610.  I am trying to activate my wireless by pressing Fn-F2 but it is not activating.  Does anyone know how to get it to activate?
[00:05] <Dannyboi> I shall give this a go, but I have a feeling i will beback on Vista very soon lol
[00:05] <digitalslave> if i wanted to build everything id be using gentoo
[00:05] <fevel> just got it
[00:06] <fevel> it was on /usr/bin/python all the time
[00:06] <rbil> fevel: it's a softlink, no?
[00:06] <grant_> I'm having trouble mounting an external HDD. It worked before now it isn't. Does anyone think they can help?
[00:06] <rbil> fevel: do .... ls -l /usr/bin/python
[00:07] <fevel> its ok rbil , thanks anyway...eclipse is up and running
[00:07] <digitalslave> grant_, are you trying with a different usb port?
[00:07] <rbil> fevel: hehe, good
[00:07] <mad_max02> Dannyboi, then just install vista. with that attitude u wont get far.
[00:08] <Dr_willis_> looking to learn. vs looking to fail. :)
[00:08] <Dannyboi> Lol Mad_max02   I dont have time to spent days on end configuring an OS to work properly......if some one put a price on Ubuntu id laugh my head off, i want user friendly and useable
[00:09] <Dr_willis_> Dannyboi,  thats amazing.. I dont have time to spend days to congifigure an OS properly.. thats why i Stitched AWAY from windows.. to linux...
[00:09] <rbil> Dannyboi: how much investment in time do you have into learning Windows?
[00:09] <untruehero> Could someone please help me terminate an install
[00:09]  * michalski applauds dr_willis
[00:09] <Dr_willis_> You dont want to get me started on the days ive spend troubleshooting windows..
[00:09] <michalski> untruehero: ctrl+c
[00:09] <digitalslave> Dannyboi, windows runs like crap until you configure it no?
[00:09] <untruehero> it doesn't work
[00:10] <untruehero> i tried that
[00:10] <michalski> untruehero: is this in a terminal or in X?
[00:10] <rbil> digitalslave: and even after configuring it continues to run like crap :-)
[00:10] <Dannyboi> :P well put it this way.... Vista...drivers for my ati card install automatically..no fuss, end of.... Ubunti...come to an irc forum...try 3 or 4 different ways....find out other people cant get 1280x800..probably end up back at square one...
[00:10] <Dr_willis_> a normal windows install takes me about 2-3 hrs to find/download/update the drivers and tools..
[00:10] <Dr_willis_> Dannyboi,  windows is not using the latest ati drivers - would be my guess.. and blame ATI for lousy linux support. not the othe way around.
[00:10] <digitalslave> rbil, hahaha you everyone should go to unix and command line and be happy - would probably force more outside heh
[00:11] <Dannyboi> windows does use the latest ati drivers....it updates regularly
[00:11] <Dr_willis_> 'but ati has promized better support'
[00:11] <untruehero> michalski - nevermind that did work, i wasn't in the install when i tried that last time
[00:11] <untruehero> my bad, thanks for the help
[00:11] <Dr_willis_> Dannyboi,  it hasnt from what ive seen.. but theres the latest stable.. and the latest cutting edge I guess. Depends on what you want.
[00:11] <michalski> untruehero: np
[00:11] <digitalslave> Dannyboi, updates haha all systems do that and its not our fault ati is a crappy company?!
[00:11] <Dr_willis_> I am now nvidia on 7/8 of my machines.
[00:11] <untruehero> michalski - no wait it's back again :-)
[00:11] <Dannyboi> Lol....Dr_Willis...tell me why 1280x800 isnt a default option on resolution selection..even though that is my native resolution
[00:12] <untruehero> michalski - sagetv is asking for an activation key, that's the problem
[00:12] <dabbill> Any one able to help with http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60888/ ?
[00:12] <untruehero> michalski -  I don't want to activate it, I did crtl-c that worked then I went to add/remove app
[00:12] <Dr_willis_> Dannyboi,  all my ubuntu machines get my res right. ive seen windows do similer dumb things as well.  ive noticed that using a DVI conector helps.
[00:12] <rbil> Dannyboi: I don't use ATI, but maybe you can try just changing xorg.conf to use "ati" as driver, that's the open source one that comes with Ubuntu. Then after you're on the desktop, switch over to the proprietary driver
[00:12] <michalski> untruehero: haha you are mind bending --- uhm honestly I dont have a clue what(/who) sagetv is
[00:12] <digitalslave> Dannyboi, because youve not detected and configured your drive properly
[00:12] <unop_> Dannyboi, i find it hard to believe you can't get that resolution even with restricted drivers -- there has to be something you've overlooked
[00:12] <Dr_willis_> we can spend all day making excuses or ranting... which leads no where.
[00:13] <untruehero> michalski - it's a streaming media server program.
[00:13] <Dannyboi> I have literally spent months trying to make this work
[00:13] <Dannyboi> and it won
[00:13] <Dr_willis_> its possible its his monitor thats being detected/seen/confgiured as only handling the  lower red.
[00:13] <mad_max02> Dannyboi, I told you dude. just install vista and forget about it.
[00:13] <digitalslave> exactly
[00:13] <Dr_willis_> Dannyboi,  about the only thing ive ever had to do to tweak the res was enter the proper mode in the xorg.conf
[00:13] <Dannyboi> Dr_Willis im using a laptop
[00:13] <michalski> untruehero: are you supposed to register/activate? (theres a legal factor here :)   )
[00:13] <tanner> anyone know how to run a 32bit mplayer on 64bit ubuntu install?
[00:14] <Dr_willis_> Dannyboi,  so am i. and ive done it befor on other disrtos for my widescreen laptops
[00:14] <untruehero> michalski -  I know, that's why I don't want to install it
[00:14] <Dr_willis_> laptop dosent matter..
[00:14] <mad_max02> tanner, why would you do that ???
[00:14] <michalski> tanner: should be transparent operation
[00:14] <digitalslave> tanner, 64 bit why man why??
[00:14] <untruehero> michalski - I thought I could use it as a trial from their site, but I can't just kill in the install
[00:14] <tanner> mad_max02: because 64bit doesnt support the use of 32bit codecs (which are required for some of the files i want to watch)
[00:15] <digitalslave> tanner, we know this but why use 64 to begin with?
[00:15] <mad_max02> tanner, thats not true. I watch everything with no problems. its just a matter of how u installed it
[00:15] <unop> tanner, you can always install 32bit apps and codecs in a 64 bit environment courtesy of a !chroot
[00:15] <Dannyboi> Well im DLin the latest version of ubuntu, once ive burned it I will try to install it (for some reason i find only rhe 6.x.x LTS version installs, the newer ones fail instantly with the Xthing (xserver?) failing before it even loads the live CD
[00:15] <mad_max02> digitalslave, why not ?? I started with 64bit and never got to install 32bit coz everything works
[00:15] <tanner> mad_max02: no, read mplayer documentation or hell, confirm in #mplayer, cannot use 32bit codecs on 64bit system
[00:16] <tanner> unop, can you elaborate?
[00:16] <digitalslave> mad_max02, unless you a video editing or something of the like 64 bit isnt really worth it
[00:16] <poseidon> Is there some sort of object dock for ubuntu, like the one for mac?
[00:16] <dabbill> I run 64bit cause i wanna use my 4 gigs of ram :)
[00:16] <unop> !chroot | tanner
[00:16] <ubotu> tanner: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[00:16] <michalski> untruehero: you are a living breathing human being you can do what ever the hell you want :)   you can hit ctrl+alt+f1 , login as root and type telinit1, thenonce its done with everything hit ctrl+d and it will bring you back to the logon screen
[00:16] <dabbill> nothing wrong with 64bit installs,
[00:16] <tanner> digitalslave because i would love to make full use of my hardware.
[00:16] <RavenTrigun> I have a question about dual booting.
[00:16] <Dr_willis_> Dannyboi,  try 'sidux' if you want - it has tools to update to the latest ati drivers. that may help out with the ati issues.
[00:16] <digitalslave> dabbill, hahaha ok ok
[00:16] <mad_max02> tanner, dont do that. there is a nice link for installing mplayer that plays everything
[00:16] <thisdyu> how can i tell what is on wlan1
[00:17] <thisdyu> or if its in use
[00:17] <dabbill> and there is a howto on the fourms about installing 32bit codics on 64bit install.
[00:17] <RavenTrigun> I got ubuntu a couple of days ago and i find myself lacking games to play.
[00:17] <Dannyboi> ok
[00:17] <Dannyboi> kool
[00:17] <dabbill> i run mplayer with 32bit codecs with 64bit install of ubuntu.
[00:17] <mad_max02> tanner, HERE http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=558538&highlight=mplayer
[00:17] <RavenTrigun> So i want to get XP back to play my games.
[00:17] <RavenTrigun> How would i do that?
[00:17] <grant_> digital slave:  it isn't the usb port that is messed up, it won't mount a flash drive, or an ipod either (using any of the usb ports)
[00:17] <mad_max02> tanner, this is how I installed and I watch everything with no problems
[00:17] <mad_max02> RavenTrigun, what games would you like to play ??
[00:18] <michalski> untruehero: btw this will log you out.....
[00:18] <stefg> !games
[00:18] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[00:18] <michalski> untruehero: lol should mention that earlier
[00:18] <digitalslave> grant_, just asking as ubuntu misses the front ports quite often
[00:18] <grant_> it is on a lap top
[00:18] <RavenTrigun> Hitman,Hitman 2,Hitman 3,Hitman 4, GTA SAMP,
[00:18] <untruehero> lol
[00:18] <digitalslave> lsusb picks them up when you plug them in??
[00:18] <mad_max02> RavenTrigun, but why did you install ubuntu in the first place then ??
[00:18] <untruehero> michalski - it screwed up my ultravnc connection
[00:19] <crondor> anyone have experience customizing the ubuntu livecd?
[00:19] <michalski> untruehero: yipes
[00:19] <spiniker> hello need help in upgrading firefox on 6.06
[00:19] <TechPepsi> is 7.10 for mac?
[00:19] <CME> hitman 1-4 runs fine in wine :)
[00:19] <crondor> I want to setup my livecd to automatically enable vino
[00:19] <digitalslave> spiniker, download 7.10 ;)
[00:19] <untruehero> michalski - I just want to get rid of the thing, i don't want to use it but it keeps trying to finish the install, i gotta run down stairs to login
[00:19] <michalski> TechPepsi: yes, 7.10 can run on PowerPC processors (mac)
[00:19] <RavenTrigun> Because. I wanted to try it out my and my friend said we would take a look at it. Since we are both programmers and we are tired with the crap of Windows....And the flaws......
[00:19] <dabbill> any able to help with 8800gt driver install, i am getting http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60888/ when i do sudo nvidia-settings
[00:19] <unop> crondor, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveCDCustomizationHowTo
[00:20] <spiniker> ic..how do i upgrade to 7.10?
[00:20] <grant_> digital slave- it sees the devices when I first start linux, but it can't mount them, and they don't disappear when I disconnect them
[00:20] <mad_max02> RavenTrigun, why on earth would you go back to windows then ???
[00:20] <crondor> the problem is, there is no user ubuntu until the livecd loaded
[00:20] <TechPepsi> oh it can?  I got the soft in the mail...
[00:20] <tanner> mad_max02: http://pastebin.com/m6a210948
[00:20] <CME> RavenTrigun, did you tried wine?
[00:20] <spiniker> or is it fresh install all the way?
[00:20] <RavenTrigun> I did i get this msg.
[00:20] <TechPepsi> but then will it know if its mac or pc?
[00:20] <RavenTrigun> Hold on let me get it.
[00:20] <michalski> untruehero: reboot or something and then when you get back on uninstall it from synaptics
[00:20] <stefg> spiniker: don't ... wait another 4 weeks and then take 8.04. you'll have Firefox 3 then
[00:21] <TechPepsi> what about the airport extrmem wif card will it reconize that?
[00:21] <michalski> TechPepsi: the only thing ubuntu and its install will notice as different is the type of proccessor it uses: mac=powerpc/pc=intel
[00:21] <TechPepsi> wifi*
[00:21] <RavenTrigun> err:module:import_dll Library DSETUP.dll (which is needed by L"Z:\\home\\crash\\Desktop\\biko3.exe") not found
[00:21] <RavenTrigun> err:module:LdrInitializeThunk Main exe initialization for L"Z:\\home\\crash\\Desktop\\biko3.exe" failed, status c0000135
[00:21] <thisdyu> how do i find out if im using wlan1 for my wifi card?
[00:21] <michalski> TechPepsi: yes
[00:21] <michalski> TechPepsi: just be sure to download and use the POWERPC VERSION of ubuntu
[00:21] <mad_max02> tanner, I dont get what you are trying to tell me. Did you check that link I pasted to you ????
[00:22] <unop> spiniker, in the meantime, you can download firefox from mozilla's site and install it manually
[00:22] <spiniker> and also why cant i download the torrents that i have using azureus?
[00:22] <Zanth> hello, is it possible to run compiz without xgl?
[00:22] <CME> RavenTrigun, then search for DSETUP.dll and copy it to ~/.wine/drive_c/system32
[00:22] <spiniker> ok..
[00:22] <tanner> mad_max02: yes, ive seen it before, however, that is a direct output of the configure script from mplayer svn
[00:22] <CME> and setup wine first with winecfg
[00:22] <TechPepsi> ah ok
[00:22] <mad_max02> tanner, I'm a multimedia freak and trust me I got satisfied with multimedia capabilities of ubuntu
[00:22] <thisdyu> how do i find out if im using wlan1 for my wifi card?
[00:22] <grant_> *Problem* ubuntu sees my external HDD at start up but cannot mount it
[00:22] <mad_max02> tanner, install from the source like it says in that link
[00:22] <Dr_willis_> grant_,  what filesystem is the hard drive?
[00:23] <tanner> mad_max02: svn is the source of mplayer..
[00:23] <unop> thisdyu, use the iwconfig command to detect the wifi card and see if that matches up with wlan1
[00:23] <Auzy> btw, anyone in charge of brainstorm, I think you just ran out of free space on your server
[00:23] <stefg> grant_: so run dmesg and look or related messages or warnings
[00:23] <TechPepsi> how much space does 7.10 take?
[00:23] <Cackette-Laptop> how can i play an embedded quicktime movie in firefox
[00:23] <mad_max02> tanner, ur wrong
[00:23] <thisdyu> ty
[00:23] <Auzy> uery failed: ERROR: could not extend relation 1663/42430/43486: No space left on device HINT: Check free disk space. in /srv/drupal-qa-tracker/www/includes/database.pgsql.inc on line 125
[00:23] <grant_> Dr_willis_, it is ntfs I believe
[00:23] <mad_max02> tanner, skip that svn installation and continue one step after it called Compiling and Installing the Source Code
[00:23] <tanner> omg, can SOMEONE please explain to mad_max02 what SVN is
[00:23] <Auzy> Anyone with access too the brainstorm.ubuntu.com server here?
[00:23] <rbil> thisdyu: or run ifconfig and see whether an ip address has been assigned to it
[00:23] <unop> Cackette-Laptop, as long as you have quicktime codecs installed, totem should handle them
[00:24] <Dr_willis_> grant_,  install/run the ntfs-config tool.
[00:24] <michalski> TechPepsi: not 100% sure about the desktop version but it couldnt be more than 4gb
[00:24] <tanner> mad_max02: what is the output of "uname -m"
[00:24] <mad_max02> tanner, dude, I wont loose my time to ur ignorant persona. I tried to help you but ur too stubborn to listen. I wont answer ur questions any more.
[00:24] <kids> hola
[00:24] <Dr_willis_> grant_,   You may need  to add some proper fstab entries for the drives. Depending on how you use the disks.
[00:24] <Cackette-Laptop> how can i play an embedded quicktime movie in firefox
[00:25] <Cackette-Laptop> unop, my bad
[00:25] <tanner> mad_max02: what is the output of uname -m on your machine.
[00:25] <Cackette-Laptop> unop, where do i get the quicktime codecs, i dont see them inside of apt-get
[00:25] <grant_> stefg, log shows this:
[00:25] <grant_> [ 2036.496000] device-mapper: ioctl: error adding target to table
[00:25] <grant_> [ 2036.496000] device-mapper: table: 254:3: linear: dm-linear: Device lookup failed
[00:25] <kids> necesito ayuda con ubuntu!!!!
[00:25] <unop> Cackette-Laptop, install the mplayer or w32codecs
[00:25] <unop> !w32codecs | Cackette-Laptop
[00:25] <ubotu> Cackette-Laptop: The Win32 codecs are available from the Medibuntu repositories (see « /msg ubotu medibuntu »), and for releases prior to Gutsy, also at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[00:25] <Cackette-Laptop> gotcha
[00:25] <untruehero> michalski - all that did was basically tell me that's open source or something
[00:25] <dabbill> any able to help with 8800gt driver install, i am getting http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60888/ when i do sudo nvidia-settings
[00:25] <Cackette-Laptop> i've seen those
[00:25] <legend2440> TechPepsi: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements/GutsyGibbon
[00:26] <stefg> grant_: hardware failure ?
[00:26] <michalski> untruehero: what?
[00:26] <stefg> grant_: harddisk have a fatal tendency to break ...
[00:27] <Cackette-Laptop> hrmm, unop, they're already installed, but when i load a quicktime movie, FF wont play it
[00:27] <grant_> stefg, it won't mount my ipod or flash drive
[00:27] <TechPepsi> mine isnt 64 its 32
[00:27] <stefg> grant_: i see... hal, dbus or another usual suspect ...
[00:27] <untruehero> michalski - sorry it says command not found
[00:27] <Cackette-Laptop> actually, unop, firefox crashes when i try to play one
[00:27] <spiniker> unop: i downloaded firefox,how do i install it manually?
[00:28] <untruehero> michalski - i rebooted and the damn install started again and told me to end the activation
[00:28] <spiniker> its right on my desktop..
[00:28] <michalski> TechPepsi: so....
[00:28] <Cackette-Laptop> unop, either that or says (no video)
[00:28] <michalski> TechPepsi: wait holdon
[00:28] <untruehero> michalski - why can't I just cancel the process
[00:28] <grant_> stefg, what does that mean?
[00:28] <michalski> untruehero: it restarted after rebooting?
[00:28] <kids_> hello
[00:29] <untruehero> michalski - yea this is like the install from hell
[00:29] <kids_> alguien habla español?
[00:29] <unop> Cackette-Laptop, hmm, not really sure -- try reinstalling the w32codecs and totem-mozilla packages
[00:29] <Cackette-Laptop> ok
[00:29] <tanner> mad_max02: the next time you want to go ranting about how ignorant everyone else is perhaps you should know what you speak of first.
[00:29] <grant_> Dr_willis_, how do I add pstab entries for the drivers (or where do I look to learn more)?
[00:30] <unop> spiniker, errm, usually you untar the contents into the /opt/firefox directory -- and launch firefox via the /opt/firefox/firefox command
[00:30] <Dr_willis_> !fstab | grant_
[00:30] <ubotu> grant_: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[00:30] <stefg> grant_: these are the mechanisms responsible for recognising and mounting the stuff in /media. What ubuntu version is that?
[00:30] <Dannyboi> ok guys im going to go and insall ubuntu and follow the ATI instrctions best I can
[00:30] <Dannyboi> if i get stuck prepare to help
[00:30] <Dannyboi> :P
[00:30] <michalski> untruehero: ok uh go to tty1 (ctrl+alt+f1) logon and issue: sudo apt-get uninstall <package name>
[00:31] <untruehero> k
[00:31] <Cackette-Laptop> unop, no good
[00:31] <Cackette-Laptop> still (no video) or FF crash
[00:31] <unop> michalski, apt-get uninstall ??
[00:31] <grant_> stefg, I"m running gusy 7.10
[00:32] <michalski> *** sudo apt-get remove
[00:32] <michalski> not thinking straight
[00:33] <MasterScript> hi, my ubuntu get an error when i start it. see this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60932/
[00:33] <unop> Cackette-Laptop, errm, you could try using mplayer -- remove the totem-mozilla package and install mplayer-plugin -- and make sure you restart firefox, best you close it first actually
[00:33] <Cackette-Laptop> ok, i'll try
[00:33] <unop> Cackette-Laptop, mplayerplug-in
[00:33] <michalski> #TechPepsi is wondering how to install powerpc version of ubuntu#
[00:34] <stefg> grant_: hmm.... instead of running through a full trouble shooting procedure (i.e. pastebin listings of dmesg, sudo fdisk -l and possibly /etc/fstab) it would be easier to boot up a Live CD and see if the problem is the same there.
[00:34] <tash> Please help a little girl! I can't enable compiz on my ATI 2300 videocard.
[00:35] <Cackette-Laptop> (no video) or FF crash, still
[00:35] <unop> MasterScript, that looks like a warning not a serious error -- have you edited /etc/nss-pgsql.conf recently or installed the postgresql package (or similar) recently ?
[00:35] <kestir> Hi, my system clock keeps slowing down.  Doesn't matter if I set it to manual or to sync with net servers.  Could it just be my CMOS battery?
[00:35] <michalski> TechPepsi: the most recent powerpc version of ubuntu available is 6.10
[00:35] <michalski> TechPepsi: im still looking as to where to download it
[00:35] <grant_> stefg, good idea I'll be back here in 5
[00:35] <MasterScript> unop: my ubnutu wont started
[00:36] <rbil> kestir: yes it could be
[00:36] <dabbill> any able to help with 8800gt driver install, i am getting http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60888/ when i do sudo nvidia-settings
[00:36] <free1> to install vmware, is synaptic enough, or would I have to patch it up?
[00:37] <poseidon> What directory does ubuntu install programs?
[00:37] <Cackette-Laptop> unop: (no video) or FF crash, still
[00:37] <TechPepsi> michalski,  ah ok
[00:37] <kestir> rbil: is there anything else I could check before cracking open the case?
[00:37] <rbil> kestir: nothing I can think of. maybe someone else has other suggestions
[00:37] <Ashfire908> poseidon, /usr
[00:37] <spiniker> unop: i untarred it,then what? should i open a terminal?
[00:38] <michalski> TechPepsi: http://ubuntu.osuosl.org/releases/6.06/ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-powerpc.iso
[00:38] <free1> can vmware be run on 7.10 natively?
[00:38] <pyrak> my liferea keeps crashing when i launch it.  i expect that it's one of the feeds in particular.  can i start it in safe mode or something?
[00:38] <michalski> :)
[00:38] <free1> or is there a better open source emulator
[00:38] <gnr> whats wrong with this command? cat /proc/asound/card0/codec#* | grep Codec
[00:39] <michalski> TechPepsi: im assuming you in north america
[00:39] <untruehero> michalski - well i'm pretty much stuck
[00:39] <untruehero> i can't get out of the install and I can't get into Ubuntu
[00:39] <TechPepsi> michalski,  yup
[00:39] <michalski> untruehero: are you sure that sage tv is a legit app?
[00:40] <thisdyu> how do i uninstall a program i did an aptget on?
[00:40] <michalski> TechPepsi: then you can use that link with supperior speeds :)
[00:40] <untruehero> michalski - yea, i was just in the forums they claim the 15 day trial works on OSX windows... but not linux
[00:40] <michalski> thisdyu: sudo apt-get remove <app name>
[00:41] <untruehero> michalski - ill message on their forum but it looks like i might have to rebuild
[00:41] <michalski> did you get sage tv from the ubuntu repositories, or just off that site?
[00:42] <untruehero> hmm not sure
[00:42] <michalski> (EG: you went into synaptics and clicked install for it)
[00:42] <thisdyu> how do i install a program that ive downloaded the source for?
[00:42] <untruehero> no i downloaded it from the site
[00:42] <lusius> thisdyu, compiler?
[00:43] <untruehero> and it had a .sh i think
[00:43] <untruehero> but i can't remember
[00:43] <thisdyu> nt sure dosent make do thatg
[00:43] <Phonica> arr still having install problems...
[00:44] <Phonica> just getting a blank screen when i try to use the bootcd, even if i select safe graphics mode
[00:44] <michalski> thisdyu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingEasyHowTo
[00:44] <lusius> i've run into a annoying problem, im trying to play GTASA with SAMP mod, running gtasa works as current user but not as root and samp works as root but not as current user,...any suggestions what may be the problem?
[00:44] <michalski> thisdyu: step 4
[00:44] <michalski> untruehero: not the best admin practises :P
[00:45] <untruehero> i'm still learning
[00:45] <Phonica> hmm
[00:45] <MasterScript> My ubuntu cannot loading. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60933/
[00:45] <untruehero> all i wanted to do was have a media pc run, it worked fine on my XP with Tversity
[00:45] <mythril> Does anyone know where gnome-display-properties writes it's config file?
[00:45] <untruehero> but now i have had nothing but problems with ubuntu
[00:45] <kindofabuzz_> mythril: probabl ~/.gnome
[00:45] <michalski> untruehero: mythtv works
[00:46] <Phonica> After I select "Start or install Ubuntu" or "Start Ubuntu in safe graphics mode" after it does the "Loading Linux Kernel" I just get a blank screen. Any ideas anyone?
[00:46] <kindofabuzz_> probably, not sure
[00:46] <lusius> mythril, is it the normal /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[00:46] <untruehero> I was having issues with that install as well
[00:46] <icanhasadmin> Phonica: how long did you wait with a blank screen before you shut it down again?
[00:46] <rbil> free1: some people like running VirtualBox .... http://www.virtualbox.org/
[00:46] <dabbill> any able to help with 8800gt driver install, i am getting http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60888/ when i do sudo nvidia-settings
[00:46] <michalski> :S hmmm
[00:46] <untruehero> I just did add/remove for it but I was having issue.... twonky was working but now I have this issue haah
[00:46] <mythril> lusius: I don't think so because I can't restore a previous one and fix it from there
[00:46] <Phonica> icanhasadmin, about 5 minutes
[00:47] <MasterScript> My ubuntu cannot open or running. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60933/
[00:47] <Cackette-Laptop> unop?
[00:47] <Phonica> I wait untill theres no more CD activity
[00:47] <icanhasadmin> Phonica: yeah read that file, it's probabaly an acpi issue
[00:47] <mythril> if anyone here is ever presented with the option to turn your resolution off inside of gnome-display-properties do not do so, curiosity will kill your cat.
[00:47] <Phonica> which one?
[00:48] <Phonica> icanhasadmin, which file?
[00:48] <michalski> untruehero: when addressing something at me, could you put michalski: in front of it so i dont have to go fishing for your responses :)
[00:48] <gnr> whats wrong with this command? cat /proc/asound/card0/codec#* | grep Codec
[00:49] <huy> hi, if i want to reinstall new alsa driver, i should at least delete the one on hte system first right?
[00:49] <MasterScript> My ubuntu cannot open or running. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60933/
[00:49] <thisdyu> heyive complied my program then when i do make install it says its installed it but it hasnt
[00:49] <michalski> gnr: enough
[00:49] <gnr> michalski, ?
[00:49] <Adys> Is there a way to do a screenshot without triggering any other process than just the copy of the screen in a file or the clipboard?
[00:49] <Adys> I want to screenshot a menu, but it closes itself when i try to ss it
[00:50] <michalski> gnr: (joke, proving to b0xxy that we have humor)
[00:50] <enc> eglerio
[00:50] <michalski> :)
[00:50] <Phonica> arg its an issue with my graphics card lol
[00:50] <rbil> Adys: Ksnapshot is nice as you can time when the capture takes place
[00:50] <icanhasadmin> Phonica: the one someone just pasted for you
[00:50] <gnr> Adys,  system preferences keyboard shortcuts
[00:50] <Phonica> ah
[00:50] <Phonica> was ignoring masterscript
[00:50] <Phonica> ye saw that, tisnt the issue
[00:50] <sabre1994> im having an issue starting compiz
[00:50] <yo> alguein me ayuda
[00:51] <icanhasadmin> Phonica: does your capslock light blink ?
[00:51] <TechPepsi> I will be back if I have aanything more to say
[00:51] <Phonica> theres a known bug with nvidia 8800s :D
[00:51] <Adys> gnr, that doesnt solve my problem
[00:51] <Phonica> nope
[00:51] <Adys> rbil: ill look into it, thanks :)
[00:51] <sabre1994> geforce 8400
[00:51] <yo> alguien me puede dar la pagina del chat del cafe x fi
[00:51] <MasterScript> My ubuntu cannot open or running. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60933/
[00:51] <gnr> surely the menu doesn't disapear if you bind the key...
[00:52] <flush> yo
[00:52] <Adys> yes it does gnr
[00:52] <yo> k
[00:52] <asker> hi need help with keepassX. how can i open my password database with my master password, in order to access my other passwords? somehow my file is not recognized.
[00:52] <gnr> in what app Adys
[00:52] <flush> why does my freaking xchat disconnect and wont resolve hostnames anymore after a few days its connected, until i restart it
[00:52] <flush> anyone ever seen this bug
[00:52] <yo> alguien me ayuda
[00:52] <Adys> web menu
[00:52] <untruehero> michalski: my bad, is there a code to launch ubuntu from that ctrl+alt+F1 at least?
[00:52] <Adys> google suggest to be precise
[00:52] <rbil> Adys: you'll like Ksnapshot, very nice app
[00:52] <Phonica> hmm adding "noapic nolapic pci=noacpi acpi=off" hasn't helped :S
[00:53] <untruehero> michalski: ctrl+D just reloads that, it says logging out but it goes back into it and i have to log into root again
[00:53] <sabre1994> i got compiz to start but now have no window decorations
[00:53] <yo> alguien me ayuda
[00:53] <Adys> flush: try #xchat
[00:53] <yo> x fiii
[00:54] <michalski> untruehero: hitting control d, takes you out of init 1
[00:54] <untruehero> michalski: it just restarts it for me
[00:54] <asker> hi need help with keepassX. how can i open my password database with my master password, in order to access my other passwords? somehow my file is not recognized.
[00:54] <Phonica> grr this is annoying
[00:54] <asker> can anyone help?
[00:54] <Adys> gnr: By the way, i cannot take screenshots of regular menus at all with a bound key
[00:55] <untruehero> michalski: i can look through my directories in there and I tried the telinit1 but it couldn't find it
[00:55] <Adys> they dont disappear, the screenshot process just doesnt trigger
[00:55] <michalski> untruehero: restarts X, or the instalation?
[00:55] <untruehero> michalski: restarts init1, it goes back to the login
[00:55] <untruehero> michalski: it's like an endless loop
[00:55] <michalski> untruehero: no, you hit ctrl+alt+f1, that brings you to black and white screen, then logon and type: sudo telinit 1
[00:56] <Adys> rbil: Nice app indeed, too bad for the whole kde thing
[00:56] <untruehero> michalski: k let me try again
[00:56] <Adys> 82mb to fetch for a screenshot app :(
[00:56] <Diabolus> has anyone had problems running apps in wine with 8.04?
[00:56] <oxeimon> what's the command to open bittorrent?
[00:56] <MasterScript> My ubuntu cannot open or running. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60933/ <--- can somebody help me pls?
[00:56] <oxeimon> it's not "bittorrent"
[00:57] <rbil> Adys: you'll probably start using other KDE apps, as there are some good ones. :-)
[00:57] <free1> how do you install the vmware workstation on 7.10
[00:57] <michalski> untruehero: http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-7.2-Manual/ref-guide/s1-init-boot-shutdown-init.html
[00:57] <rbil> Asys: like Konversation for IRC client :-)
[00:57] <Adys> rbil: xchat :)
[00:57] <rbil> Asys: I like Konversation MUCH more
[00:58] <Adys> Matter of opinion hehe
[00:58]  * michalski cheers on rbil
[00:58] <Phonica> whats the boot time option to force VESA framebuffer?
[00:58] <rbil> Adys: yeh, but I'm always right :-)
[00:58] <Adys> so am I <grins>
[00:58] <icesword> free1, ./(excutable)
[00:58] <rbil> hehe
[00:59] <rbil> Adys: I hate KDE, use gnome/compiz, but do like some KDE apps
[00:59] <Diabolus> has anyone had problems with wine in 8.04?
[00:59] <gnr> i tried updating alsa to fix my "no sound" problem and now i get "no volume control gstreamer plugins and or devices found" error
[00:59] <swaj> xfce seems pretty nice
[00:59] <MasterScript> My ubuntu cannot open or running. i dont have problem before. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60933/ <--- can somebody help me pls?
[00:59] <michalski> MasterScript stop repeating yourself
[00:59] <Adys> rbil: Aye, I just dont like their look and feel in general :/
[00:59] <enc> how to change os that grub loads by default?
[00:59] <michalski> if we dont know the answer, we wont answer
[00:59] <Bombino16> normal boot (w/o grub intervention) boots me to black screen - when grub > recovery mode > exit, desktop loads w/o issue
[01:00] <rbil> Adys: you have to admint Konversation has alot of neat features though
[01:00] <rbil> *admit
[01:00] <free1> icesword: I just can't do it through synaptic?
[01:00] <swaj> mIRC ftw!
[01:00] <Adys> I'm like a deaf mIRC user with the only different that xchat doesnt suck as much, but habbits are hard to break, rbil hehe
[01:00] <michalski> Masterscript, does this happen before or after you login?
[01:01] <icesword> free1, vmware workstation is not free so it is not in repos,try download it from www.vmware.com
[01:01] <icanhasadmin> swaj: very useful statement. thanks for giving back to the community ;)
[01:01] <michalski> whoa its 10pm i gotta go, cy'all
[01:01] <rbil> icesworld: since when did Vmware Workstation become free?
[01:01] <swaj> icanhasadmin, sorry I can't get rid of Windows completely :P  I'm a .NET developer, and I like to play my games.  Unfortunately Wine has a long way to go still, or I'd be using Linux full time :P
[01:02] <free1> icesword: true.  do you recommend a free emulator?
[01:02] <MasterScript> michalski: its was happen after a few days.
[01:02] <icesword> !vm
[01:02] <ubotu> There are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications
[01:02] <swaj> icanhasadmin, that said, I do run an Ubuntu VirtualBox
[01:02]  * Adys grumbles at swaj a big ew at ".NET"
[01:02] <icesword> free1, then try virtualbox
[01:02] <Phonica> arg this is a sodding joke
[01:02] <untruehero> michalski: the telinit 1 thing ran, it stopped the sagetv server and then once I exit out it looks like it's booting then the registration information pops up
[01:03] <Phonica> is there any way around this bug? --> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-nv/+bug/91556
[01:03] <Genius314> The window list in my gnome panel is messed up... I can only click on the first column of buttons and a few pixels of the second column. Does anyone know what causes this, or how to fix it?
[01:03] <icanhasadmin> swaj: just teasing you mate :D wtg!
[01:03] <swaj> icanhasadmin, :P
[01:03] <MasterScript> michalski: just today, my ubuntu wont working. i can use it yesterday
[01:03] <worzel> ACPI: BIOS age (2000) fails cut off (2001), acpi=force is required to
[01:03] <worzel> enable ACPI..
[01:04] <worzel> hi there could some one help me im installing ubuntu on a pc but get this come up
[01:04] <worzel> woops
[01:04] <swaj> Adys, .NET pays the bills, and it's pretty darn sweet when you actually spend time with it.  A lot of people just dismiss it because it's Microsoft technology.
[01:04] <untruehero> michalski: I'm just going to call it a night and see if I get a response from sage, if not I will do a rebuild
[01:04] <untruehero> michalski: thanks for all your help
[01:05] <Adys> swaj: i tend to dismiss any other language than python, ruby, php, c/c++ and their closest cousins :)
[01:05] <mizu> hello
[01:05] <jramsey> you learn c# and you would dismiss most others
[01:05] <Bombino16> normal boot (w/o grub intervention) boots me to black screen - when grub > recovery mode > exit, desktop loads w/o issue : < sorry for the repost, I'm attempting to boot into gnome, vid card is x1650 and I've tried both bundled mods as well as ATI restricted drivers, no change
[01:06] <swaj> Adys:  I have, and still do write php.  But ASP.NET (ala C#) lays waste to PHP in so many ways, imo.
[01:06] <Emilian> it isn't hard to lay waste to php
[01:06] <Adys> swaj: python :)
[01:06] <thisdyu> how do i set my path
[01:06] <thisdyu> ?
[01:06] <Adys> in general i find the .NET languages sluggish
[01:06] <MasterScript> michalski: so how?
[01:07] <Adys> and hate anything that requires a framework to run
[01:07] <Genius314> My gnome panel only lets me click on the first column of buttons and the first pixel(s) of the second column. Is there a way to fix this?
[01:07] <MagoonD> should I be worried about viruses on ubuntu gutsy?
[01:07] <Adys> MagoonD: nah
[01:07] <Emilian> yes you should always be worried about viruses
[01:07] <worzel> help
[01:07] <gnr> how do i install alsa?
[01:07] <Phonica> MagoonD: you shouldnt be worried about viruses in linux really
[01:07] <thisdyu> how do i set my patch
[01:07] <thisdyu> *path
[01:07] <MagoonD> ok thanks
[01:08] <Phonica> Can anyone help me with this, I can't boot the Ubuntu LiveCD, after it says "Loading Linux Kernel" I just get a blank screen, even in safe graphics mode.
[01:08] <Adys> you shouldnt have to be worried about viruses even on windows as long as you dont download Miss Angela Latest Cam Records etc
[01:08] <swaj> Adys, Python isn't compiled :P
[01:08] <MagoonD> Emilian, what do you recommend for a anti virus program?
[01:08] <swaj> unless there's a compiler I'm unaware of
[01:08] <MasterScript> if anyone want help me pls join #MS
[01:09] <icesword> lol
[01:09] <Adys> swaj: you can eventually freeze the code but once again, code efficiently, script easily, or dont do anything at all
[01:09] <Bombino16> Phonica: I have same issue, booting from hda1 though
[01:09] <HardyOne> MagoonD, no real need for one but clamav it is in repos
[01:09] <Phonica> Bombino, I cant even get the LiveCD ot start :(
[01:09] <Phonica> sod it im going back to gentoo, at least i can fix that when it goes wrong -_-
[01:10] <MagoonD> HardyOne, thanks
[01:10] <swaj> Adys, yeah, but it seems funny that you mention not liking the whole "framework" idea behind .NET, but then you use interpereted languages like PHP and Python ;)
[01:10] <gnr> how do i install alsa?
[01:10] <HardyOne> MagoonD, np
[01:10] <Phonica> gnr, you dont install alsa its already a built in part of ubuntu
[01:10] <Adys> swaj: talking only about compiled code when talking about frameworks
[01:10] <Adys> see java
[01:10] <Adys> hate it just as much :)
[01:10] <HardyOne> Phonica, have you tried the Alternate install cd?
[01:10] <vehicle> I am new to servers.  I  just installed the latest release of ubuntu server with samba file server on top.  When I rebooted I got "B loading, please wait...  or 18"  I think "or 18" is an error message but i have no idea where to go from here...
[01:10] <vehicle> please help
[01:11] <gnr> Phonica,  then why do i get "No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found." on my volume control?
[01:12] <HardyOne> gnr, what sound card do you have?
[01:12] <gnr> intel hd
[01:12] <swaj> Adys, is there a decent web framework that allows for python to be used on the web?
[01:12] <HardyOne> you running hardy?
[01:12] <gnr> 7.10
[01:12] <jaek> hmm what is a good TV tuner app
[01:12] <Gnea> tvtime
[01:12] <Adys> swaj: I run python and php along generally
[01:13] <Adys> swaj: Mostly because I am used to php so much, if i could i'd only use python but its hard to switch
[01:13] <HardyOne> ubotu tell gnr about bug 200338
[01:13] <Genius314> My gnome panel only lets me click on the first button column, and the first pixel of the second column... I don't know how to fix this...
[01:13] <swaj> Adys, is there a mod_python or something for apache?  How would you be able to serve up pages using python?  Are you using django or something?
[01:13] <HardyOne> ubotu, test
[01:13] <ubotu> Failed.
[01:13] <HardyOne> good
[01:14] <HardyOne> bug 200338
[01:14] <HardyOne> errr
[01:14] <Adys> swaj: theres a plugin in php, as for running python alone Im no help here since i never tried, but i know its possible
[01:14] <evilgnome> does anyone know what the place of upstart will be in the coming release?
[01:14] <Emilian> swaj I use mod_wsgi and django
[01:14] <gnr> in not on hardy... on gutsy HardyOne
[01:14] <Jatz> hey, could I get a quick tip with grep?
[01:14] <Jatz> how do I search for [!]
[01:15] <worzel> HELP please
[01:15] <HardyOne> https://launchpad.net/bugs/200338 gnr I understand but this might help you
[01:15] <Gnea> Jatz: grep \[\!\] *
[01:15] <Adys> Jatz:  backslashes
[01:15] <Adys> bah
[01:15] <Jatz> Gnea: thanks a lot!
[01:15] <kindofabuzz_> Jatz: do a man grep
[01:15] <Jatz> thanks lots everyone.
[01:15] <Gnea> !ask | worzel
[01:15] <ubotu> worzel: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[01:15] <swaj> hmm
[01:15] <worzel> ok soory
[01:15] <swaj> is Python strongly-typed?  that's one thing that drives me nuts about PHP ><
[01:16] <Adys> swaj: Yes
[01:16] <Emilian> no
[01:16] <Adys> strongly, dynamically
[01:16] <worzel> i m trying to install ubuntu on a pc and i get this
[01:16] <worzel> ACPI: BIOS age (2000) fails cut off (2001), acpi=force is required to
[01:16] <worzel> > enable ACPI..
[01:16] <orudie> how would i make a user an owner of a directory ?
[01:16] <Gnea> !paste | worzel
[01:16] <ubotu> worzel: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[01:16] <Odd-rationale> orudie: use chown
[01:17] <hijynx> are there any good alternatives to xchat, I noticed that most distros come with xchat....
[01:17] <Adys> orudie: commandline "man chown", gui right click on it, go to owner
[01:17] <Gnea> worzel: so what's the problem?
[01:17] <orudie> adys: i have no gui
[01:17] <Adys> hijynx: depends what you're looking for; customization, good gui..?
[01:17] <Adys> orudie:  man chown will help you :)
[01:17] <Adys> or man chmod
[01:17]  * Adys doesnt remember
[01:18] <Gnea> it's chown :)
[01:18] <kindofabuzz_> i still can't find out if i put a file in a NFS folder on the client machine is it "pused" to the server?  and if file on server just "links" to the client share
[01:18] <Monkey_arma> hijynx, i am also looking into alternatives to xchat ..i have heard quite a few people use pidgin but dont know if it is any good
[01:18] <hijynx> Adys: more customization than gui.... I was looking at KVirc but it seems to be all bells and whistles.
[01:18] <Adys> irssi
[01:18] <worzel> i cant seem to install ubuntu i need to acpi=force
[01:18] <Adys> its commandline, but the most customizable of them all
[01:19] <orudie> how would i quit from man
[01:19] <Gnea> q
[01:19] <Adys> q
[01:19] <Rando> I'm attempting to install Ubuntu 7.10 to a USB flashdrive by using the directions located on pendrivelinux.com and am running into an error when I go to boot off the stick (kernel not found). I was wondering if there is anyone who might be able to help me troubleshoot this?
[01:19]  * Adys is slow today, Gnea  :P
[01:19] <rbil> kindofabuzz_: do you mean a mount on the client to the nfs share on the server side?
[01:19] <Adys> Monkey_arma: again, what do you need, good gui, customization..?
[01:19] <hijynx> Monkey_arma: I'm using pidgin for aim/googletalk right now, it's pretty good.
[01:19] <kindofabuzz_> rbil: yes
[01:19] <Genius314> I have a problem with the gnome panel window list, where I can only click on the first column of buttons and the first pixel of the second column... everything other window button doesn't work. Anyone know what could possibly cause this?
[01:19] <Gnea> worzel: at the boot: prompt, when you have the first menu when booting the ubuntu cd, you can add it there - i think it goes like this... boot: install acpi=force
[01:19] <Monkey_arma> well the advantage of pidgin i have heard is that it does multiple protocols
[01:20] <rbil> kindofabuzz_: on the client side it's just a mount point, so anything put in there is actually going to go to the share on the server side
[01:20] <Adys> pidgin is a general IM client, but in general those are not really nice with irc
[01:20] <Monkey_arma> the main problem i have with xchat is that the input box is small
[01:20] <kindofabuzz_> let's say i put a file in my share which is the mount from the server.  is that file still on my machine or "pused" to the server and just linked to my share?
[01:20] <kindofabuzz_> oh ok
[01:20] <Gnea> Monkey_arma: have you taken a look at some xchat scripts to see if any of them expand it?
[01:21] <thisdyu> hey guys anyone have ne comments about changing from anth5k to madwifi-ng drivers?
[01:21] <kindofabuzz_> what about just the opposite?  a file created in the share on server?  is it just a "link" on the client?
[01:21] <ALPSINC> hi all, how can i run something as root automaticly, upon every startup
[01:21] <Adys> ALPSINC: you're aware thats a huge security flaw
[01:22] <worzel> Gnea: not shore what ya mean not all that good with this
[01:22] <Monkey_arma> Gnea, no i have not ....really though that should not need a script...the designers of xchat should allow altering size of input box..i think its crazy
[01:22] <ALPSINC> Adys:  yes, it's an internal server
[01:22] <shoto> dk
[01:23] <shoto> hello
[01:23] <shoto> anybody?
[01:23] <bod_> hi
[01:23] <KyleS-home> hello~
[01:23] <orudie> after doing chmod u=rw,go= /home/orudie it restricts me for accessing this directory, which is my home directory
[01:23] <BIOSboiler> What is the command at the bash promp to figure out what my WAN ip is? anyone please help
[01:23] <KyleS-home> BIOSboiler, ifconfig
[01:23] <Adys> ALPSINC: cant find it right now, think its on my other comps bookmarks but try googling for installing su and enabling root on ubuntu
[01:23] <bod_> ifconfig?
[01:23] <rbil> BIOSboiler: ifconfig should tell u
[01:24] <ALPSINC> Adys: ok
[01:24] <Adys> ALPSINC:  then you'll be able to login as root and enable automatic logging
[01:24] <Keidale> My update manager is trying to download in to the root directory E: ERROR: could not create configuration directory /home/root/.synaptic - mkdir (2 No such file or directory) I'm not sure how it changed but does anyone know how to get to point to the right file
[01:24] <Gnea> worzel: try it and see what happens
[01:24] <Name141> My Install seems to be stuck on "decting file systems"
[01:24] <Name141> What would I do, cancel and try again?
[01:25] <Capsid> I'm trying to use ndiswrapper to run my integrated Intel wireless card. Is their anyway to stop the generic driver and make ndiswrapper default?
[01:25] <nigro> hi..
[01:25] <Adys> ALPSINC: but again, its a huge security flaw, even as an internal server id recommend just removing root password and enabling auto sudo bash on login
[01:25] <Gnea> Name141: how long as it been hanging?
[01:25] <KyleS-home> don't need that Adylas
[01:25] <Name141> About 2 mins now Gnea
[01:25] <KyleS-home> er...adys**
[01:25] <ALPSINC> Adys: ok...
[01:25] <KyleS-home> just do a sudo su -
[01:25] <KyleS-home> then you don't need to enable the root account
[01:25] <Gnea> sudo -i
[01:25] <ALPSINC> KyleS-home:  how can i run something as root automaticly, upon every startup
[01:26] <ALPSINC> that was the question
[01:26] <Name141> Gnea: I am trying to put it on my external drive.  Following the guide given to me in the forums
[01:26] <nigro> I have a question, I trying configure mi wireless card BCM4312 but I can't connet to ap with wep
[01:26] <worzel> Gnea: still the same
[01:26] <KyleS-home> /etc/rc.local?
[01:26] <rbil> Capsid: isn't the intel card supported?
[01:26] <rbil> Capsid: I thought they all were by now
[01:26] <nigro> any idea?
[01:26] <ALPSINC> KyleS-home: would that work for say... a perl script that is ment to hang?
[01:26] <Adys> rbil:  yeah intel wireless cards is supported
[01:26] <KyleS-home> hmmm.
[01:26] <Name141> Gnea: should I wait longer or axe it?
[01:26] <BIOSboiler> ifconfig only tells me my local ipo, i neeed WAN ip
[01:26] <Capsid> it is but it runs extremely slow for some reason
[01:27] <BIOSboiler> ifconfig only tells me my local ipo, i neeed WAN ip, isn't there a command
[01:27] <Gnea> Name141: try booting the cd with the usb device disconnected - once the desktop is up, connect it and check the status of dmesg
[01:27] <nigro> I must try with ndiswrapper?
[01:27] <jimmygoon> Anyone got any suggestions of a decent slideshow app for ubuntu that will let me set pictures to music (and MAYBE export it to an avi/dvd)
[01:27] <Adys> Capsid: extremely slow in comparison to before/another OS?
[01:27] <Adys> or "just extremely slow"?
[01:27] <rbil> BIOSboiler: do u use a hardware router? should be recorded there or you can use an utility I run on my websever to find it out: http://w-3productions.com/myaddress.mv
[01:27] <Gnea> BIOSboiler: traceroute?
[01:27] <Rando> I've followed the directions at http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/09/28/usb-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon-install/ and am running into an error stating that my system can not find the kernel. Anyone run into this in the past?
[01:28] <Keidale> Does anyone know anyone who can fix this    E: ERROR: could not create configuration directory /home/root/.synaptic - mkdir (2 No such file or directory)
[01:28] <KyleS-home> BIOSboiler, ifconfig will tell you the ips of all your active connections
[01:28] <Gnea> Keidale: root's homedir is /root, not /home/root
[01:29] <Adys> Keidale:  when does that happen?
[01:29] <Keidale> that is what the update manager tells me when I try to get new downloads
[01:29] <Adys> uhm
[01:29] <ALPSINC> brb
[01:29] <Adys> this might be ugly but can you do sudo nautilus, and create a link in /home/root to /root ?
[01:29] <khushil> #networking
[01:29] <Genius314> The window list in my gnome panel only lets me click on the first column of buttons, and the first pixel of the second column. The rest of the buttons don't let me click them. Any idea what causes this?
[01:29] <Adys> (its not normal it asks for /home/root in the first place but...)
[01:30] <mindheavy> a desktop running 7.10, with usb wireless adapter, im needing to share its internet connection thru the ethernet port to another computer with a crossover cable, could anyone assist or point to a guide? im not finding much
[01:30] <Capsid> Adys: When I had Ubuntu 7.10 the wireless card would routinely drop and runs @ 512K. Under Windows Vista home edition it runs fine @ 5mb. Now I'm running 8.10 and the card no longer drops but it still runs @ 512K.
[01:30] <gauze_> I'm trying to do "apt-get install libc6-dev" but it'd prompting me for the cd which I do not have here, how can I force it to go to the net?
[01:30] <Keidale> Is there somewhere that I can go to and change the path to download where it's supposed to go
[01:30] <Adys> Capsid: Tried #ubuntu+1 ?
[01:31] <Adys> gauze_:  go to synaptic
[01:31] <[T]an3> i am looking everywhere for a fix to my numlock being stuck on when i am undocked from the docking station... everything i have found does not work. any ideas?
[01:31] <Odd-rationale> gauze_: edit you /etc/apt/sources.lst and comment out the cd
[01:31] <mindheavy> gauze_: you need to comment out the line for the cd in /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:31] <Gnea> gauze_: edit /etc/apt/sources.list and comment out the lines for the cdrom
[01:31] <mindheavy> hah
[01:31] <Gnea> :)
[01:31] <gauze_> ((((echo))))
[01:31] <gauze_> thanks
[01:31] <Capsid> Adys: nope, I will go check it out, thank you
[01:31] <Adys> gauze_:  repositories, and remove the cd ones
[01:31] <Adys> thats the gui way :)
[01:31] <Odd-rationale> I was first! :)
[01:31] <Gnea> home run!
[01:32] <Adys> pft
[01:33] <kei-clone> so
[01:33] <DocMangler> i was wondering if anybody here has had problems with pdnsd failing after a few minutes or so
[01:33] <bod_> guys i have a question,. most apps have ctrl+c & ctrl+v for copy and paste, why does the terminal use ctrl+shift+c/v ?
[01:33] <Dr_willis_> bod_,  because MS decided to go against the standard years ago.
[01:34] <Hansel> right-click...
[01:34] <Gnea> bod_: because ctrl-c is ^C or ^break
[01:34] <kindofabuzz_> anyone got a quick fix so my dynDNS address does go straight to my router config?? i can't seem to find an answer
[01:34] <kei-clone> it's the same in DOS actually
[01:34] <kindofabuzz_> not very secure
[01:34] <bod_> Gnea, so in human terms what does ctrl+c achieve in terminal?
[01:34] <Gnea> bod_: but why bother with that when you can just select the text with the left click, then middle click to paste?
[01:34] <Slickness> hello,i'm running 7.10 and having video problems. with certain vids im getting a green bar at the top,and the colors are messed up,happens both in VLC player and in Totem move player
[01:34] <Adys> bod_:  it interrupts an operation
[01:35] <Adys> ctrl close
[01:35] <bod_> Gnea, because it means moving my hand ALL THE WAY to the mouse
[01:35] <DocMangler> lol yeah
[01:35] <kei-clone> i'm having trouble with my music players
[01:35] <Adys> bod_:  alt shift insert :)
[01:35] <Dr_willis_> bod_,  time to check out some shell tutorials and guides. :)   Ctrl-c kills the running app normally.
[01:35] <Gnea> bod_: yes, but it takes less effort, overall :)
[01:35] <Odd-rationale> bod_: shift+insert
[01:35] <Dr_willis_> bod_,  in the console, you can install gpm and use the mouse to cut/paste also.
[01:35] <kei-clone> was playing music on exaile for a little while, and after a while it stops playing music, and moving to audacious does the same thing
[01:35] <Gnea> since you still need to use the mouse to highlight what you want to copy/paste as it is ;)
[01:35] <kei-clone> anyone help me with that?
[01:36] <bod_> Dr_willis, yeah,. i just tried,. starts a new line aswell,.,
[01:36] <bod_> cheers guys
[01:36] <DocMangler> no, no need for mouse at all in console
[01:36] <bod_> DocMangler, right on!! ;~)
[01:36] <Rando> Does anyone in here have  Ubuntu 7.10 booting off a USB pendrive?
[01:36] <DocMangler> hey bod, have you tried out gnu screen yet?
[01:36] <Dr_willis_> DocMangler,  it comes in handy.
[01:36] <bod_> DocMangler, no, what is it?
[01:36] <Dr_willis_> screen also comes in handy. Heh.
[01:36] <gauze_> screen id the shit
[01:36] <Gnea> screen > *
[01:36] <mindheavy> Rando: i've done it
[01:36] <DocMangler> it's a terminal multiplexer
[01:36] <gauze_> s/id/is/
[01:37] <DocMangler> it's awesome
[01:37] <DocMangler> like console windows
[01:37] <DocMangler> :P
[01:37] <Dr_willis_> I have had some issues in the past with screen and mc combined.
[01:37] <Odd-rationale> Rando: Consider useing a distro that is meant for doing that. Like DSL or puppylinux
[01:37] <DocMangler> i have no trouble with mc and screen now
[01:37] <Dr_willis_> 'twin' in the console is an interesting tool also.
[01:37] <bod_> !language | gauze_
[01:37] <ubotu> gauze_: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[01:37] <DocMangler> actually, if you nest 2x screens
[01:37] <Gnea> Dr_willis_: screen and iptraf... phew!
[01:37] <DocMangler> i can't get mouse to work at all
[01:37] <deadlock> All of a sudden, my mic sounds like a robot...what the hell could i have done..
[01:37] <deadlock> >.<
[01:37] <Rando> kk, i'll give DSL a try
[01:37] <Dr_willis_> DocMangler,  it seems to be some font issues. I see it with some disrtos and not others. I had to tweak putty for mc also.
[01:37] <DocMangler> yeah i think so too
[01:38] <Adys> deadlock: plugs?
[01:38] <Odd-rationale> Rando: I like puppy better...
[01:38] <DocMangler> i actually set up my mc ini all customized
[01:38] <DocMangler> now it's very perdy, and no probs
[01:38] <drewby> Hello yes, so when I would try to watch movies with mplayer sometimes after the movie had closed or if I had opened up a flash document simultaneously my sound would stop working.  When I restarted, sound would resume working and I wouldn't worry about it any further.  Today, I stupidly went to try and fix it without researching the issue at all and did a sudo /etc/apt/init.d/alsa-utils start and no my sound no longer works even afte
[01:38] <deadlock> Adys: I dont think so. I can try again
[01:38] <DocMangler> lol, console in kde all beautiful and transparent
[01:38] <DocMangler> my dad wants to puke
[01:38] <Gnea> get him a bucket
[01:38] <DocMangler> aye
[01:39] <DocMangler> he's clickin like a madman with the mouse to no avail
[01:39] <Adys> !sound | drewby
[01:39] <ubotu> drewby: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[01:39] <Gnea> trying to click THROUGH the terminal?
[01:39] <DocMangler> hahahah
[01:39] <DocMangler> maybe
[01:40] <DocMangler> im not sure
[01:40] <Gnea> lol
[01:40] <Jon855> I have a wireless connection which I would like to share with my desktop through another ethernet connector I have, how do i do this?
[01:40] <DocMangler> i just know i wanna connect 13k volts to the mouse so when he touches it he gets zapped on every klikkity
[01:40] <Adys> Jon855:  I cant really help, but try googling around on how to setup a wireless router with linux
[01:40] <DocMangler> ahh back to screen, if you haven't used it, it can get kinda frustrating at first
[01:41] <Jon855> No.
[01:41] <drewby> awww, adys, alsa is selected, guess I'll have to go check out those lins
[01:41] <drewby> links*
[01:41] <Jon855> I meant, i want my laptop to act as the provider for my desktop
[01:41] <Adys> Jon855: yep, its the same process
[01:41] <Gnea> Jon855: you could set your desktop up as a router and NAT the connection
[01:41] <DocMangler> the best bet on that, when you figure out how to get your 2nd one open, run the split command, and put man screen on top, and something like mc on bottom
[01:41] <manicnerd> my friends computer got all messed up and she wants me to reinstall gutsy....she does not have an internet connection.....is using just the install cd good enough?  with no internet i dont think things like the nonfree-flash-plugin or anything need installed...
[01:41] <Jon855> Gnea, how would I do this?
[01:41] <kindofabuzz_> will someone go here? kindofabuzz.homelinux.net  what do you see?
[01:41] <kindofabuzz_> not a trick or anything i promise
[01:42] <Adys> kindofabuzz_:  timeout
[01:42] <Gnea> !iptables | Jon855
[01:42] <ubotu> Jon855: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[01:42] <manicnerd> kindofabuzz_:  timeout
[01:42] <kindofabuzz_> ok then it's a loopback thing, i get my router config when i go to it from home
[01:42] <wien> what is best way to dual boot windows and ubuntu,  xp/windows installed first
[01:42] <manicnerd> here too
[01:42] <Gnea> Jon855: iptables provides NAT capability, and quite well at that
[01:42] <DocMangler> aye timeout here too
[01:42] <kindofabuzz_> kk, thanks
[01:43] <Adys> wien: Admittedly the easiest way is installing ubuntu8 with wubi, but its still beta
[01:43] <DocMangler> wien, grub is your friend
[01:43] <mintsoup> what's the default gnome window decorator?
[01:43] <Odd-rationale> mintsoup: human
[01:43] <Adys> mintsoup:  compiz
[01:43] <DocMangler> here's an awesome grub page, one moment
[01:43] <wien> what is wubi
[01:43] <Gnea> wien: neither. kill windows, install ubuntu, install vmware, create a virtual disk and install xp in vmware - run them at the same time ;)
[01:43] <bod_> guys, on my top panel, on the left of the word 'Applications' there is a small gnome foot icon, how can i change this icon to one that i made?
[01:43] <Adys> !wubi | wien
[01:43] <ubotu> wien: wubi advice here: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=234  and  http://wubi.org  [file wubi bugs here:  https://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug ] (it will be included in hardy 8.04 currently in beta)
[01:43] <Odd-rationale> mintsoup: sorry, metacity. human is the theme
[01:44] <Adys> metacity is the window manager, compiz is the decorator
[01:44] <DocMangler> http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p15.htm#How_to_add_Grub
[01:44] <mintsoup> thanks
[01:44] <DocMangler> that will help you get grub up and running to dual boot anything, triple boot etc..
[01:45] <manicnerd> my friend wants me to reinstall gutsy on her laptop (she has no internet connection).....is there anyway for me to also take the updates her laptop would require (old dell c600)
[01:45] <jeffMASTERflex> Adys: actually, compiz is the window manager.
[01:45] <Odd-rationale> manicnerd: yes. aptoncd is one way.
[01:45] <tash> Please remind me what is name of Compiz plugin that shows all open windows on screen and allows me to choose one
[01:46] <Adys> jeffMASTERflex:  not by default afaik
[01:46] <manicnerd> tash: scale i believe
[01:46] <kei-clone> can someone help me get my audacious and exaile to work? I can't play music right now, there's the output when I try: http://rafb.net/p/fTY8rf43.html
[01:46] <drewby> lol
[01:46] <bod_> !aptoncd | manicnerd
[01:46] <ubotu> manicnerd: APTonCD is a tool with a graphical interface which allows you to create one or more CDs or DVDs with all of the packages you've downloaded via apt-get or aptitude, creating a removable repository that you can use on other computers
[01:47] <drewby> the mic port was muted ><
[01:47] <manicnerd> Odd-rationale: so....i would install aptoncd on her laptop....run it (it will give me an ISO?) then burn that ISO....install gutsy....use that ISO to update?
[01:47] <tash> manicnerd: thank you :)
[01:47] <DocMangler> ok, so nobody here have pdnsd up and runnin? or had probs with it if you do or did?
[01:47] <jeffMASTERflex> Adys: actually, as long as compiz is active, it IS the window manager. it might LOOK like metacity if it uses the gtk decorator
[01:47] <manicnerd> tash: np
[01:47] <Odd-rationale> manicnerd: But there is a better way. let me get  the link
[01:47] <ferric84> I'm trying to update mysql-server-5.0 through update manager, which was released a few days ago, but during the install I get an error that says: E: /var/cache/apt/archives/mysql-server-5.0_5.0.45-1ubuntu3.3_i386.deb: subprocess new pre-removal script returned error exit status 1
[01:47] <Odd-rationale> manicnerd: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware#head-14060f8896fc0efa378412ca379a89c8c332da14
[01:48] <ferric84> what does this mean?
[01:48] <Adys> jeffMASTERflex: compiz-decorator is the decorator and metacity is the default windowmanager but i could be wrong
[01:48] <crdlb> Adys: nope, metacity and compiz are both window managers
[01:48] <jeffMASTERflex> Adys: you are. if compiz is active, it is handling window managing duties. that is what it does. it is a metacity replacement
[01:48] <crdlb> metacity is the one that runs when you disable compositing effects
[01:49] <Adys> Oh right ok
[01:49] <Adys> ferric84: tried forcing uninstall reinstall on mysql-server ?
[01:49] <manicnerd> Odd-rationale: thank you very much for that link....just what i was looking for
[01:49] <Odd-rationale> manicnerd: I knew it would be. ;)
[01:49] <ferric84> hrm.. that could be dangerous
[01:50] <Adys> ferric84:  try moving /var/cache/apt/archives/mysql-server-5.0_5.0.45-1ubuntu3.3_i386.deb away
[01:50] <Adys> and do the download from another mirror
[01:50] <ferric84> ok
[01:50] <ferric84> thx
[01:51] <BIOSboiler> i have a question-- if i plug a usb thumb drive into my ubuntu box, which log file would i look at to see the log of it,in real time?
[01:51] <TheViLliN> finally,   i fixed my onboard ati problem
[01:51] <TheViLliN> all it took was buying an nvidia card,   lol
[01:51] <DocMangler> hahahah
[01:51] <Gnea> BIOSboiler: tail -f /var/log/syslog
[01:52] <Adys> BIOSboiler:  /var/log/syslog?
[01:52] <Adys> Gnea: fourth time in 30 mins bah :)
[01:52]  * Adys is too tired for that - going to bed
[01:54] <ibback> Hi all. Does any1 know how to resolve this problem regarding amarok cos when i try to listen to radio, it alway return "Error reading Media, there is no available decoder, http: blah blah blah"
[01:54] <TheViLliN> so,  does anyone have an opinion on halflife and wine.  is there huge performance issues??
[01:55] <Hansel> TheViLliN - why not read up about it on winehq.org?
[01:55] <TheViLliN> ya,  i am.  I jut thought i'd see if anyone else has
[01:55] <DocMangler> i actually saw some screenshots where people were getting better fps
[01:55] <DocMangler> then again
[01:55] <DocMangler> i saw many with ppl getting 1/2 the fps
[01:56] <DocMangler> i keep my windows machine handy for games
[01:56] <DocMangler> :P
[01:56] <Jon855> alright, I'm now using firestarter but there still seems to be an issue with sharing the connection
[01:56] <BIOSboiler> Gnea what is the -f option do for tail?
[01:56] <Jon855> I have selected my wifi connection as the internet source and my eth0 as the lan source and internet sharing is enabled but it still doesn't works
[01:56] <TheViLliN> that's kinda what i was thinking too.   just don't want to take this new box down just to play some games..;)
[01:57] <DocMangler> aye, it's getting harder for me to start windows
[01:57] <kindofabuzz_> will someone help me understand this page? https://www.dyndns.com/support/kb/loopback_connections.html at the bottom, i don't know what to put for there examples
[01:57] <Hansel> Jon855  - sudo iwconfig           what does it say?
[01:57] <Gnea> BIOSboiler: man tail  <-- explains it
[01:57] <GEIS> anyone uses mldonkey and knows how to connect to server from webui ?
[01:57] <EtherNet> hello guys, could anyone give me an URL for downloading UBUNTU LIVECD ?
[01:57] <Oni-Dracula> hi folks... i'm using ubuntu 8.04 and i installed miro though apt and all the channel names are screwed up.  The actual location of the button is about 50px away from where the name of the channel is being displayed... anyone know how i could fix0r this?
[01:57] <Jon855> Hansel, it says ath0 - internet etc, etc, etc...
[01:57] <Jon855> nothing else
[01:57] <Gnea> EtherNet: http://www.ubuntu.com
[01:57] <Hansel> EtherNet - no, we don't google for you...
[01:58] <DocMangler> TheViLliN you know, i know it's not half-life
[01:58] <DocMangler> but... unreal2k4 at least comes in linux version
[01:58] <Romster> hi where is the dd command located? it's not in /bin/ where it's ment to be
[01:58] <DocMangler> runs very nicely  ;)
[01:58] <Hansel> Jon855 - well you might not have a valid wireless device connected..
[01:58] <Romster> on gutsy
[01:58] <Jon855> Well I do have a device connected -_-
[01:58] <tritium> Romster: type "which dd"
[01:58] <Jon855> I'm using it right now
[01:58] <Gnea> Romster: is coreutils installed?
[01:58] <Romster> tryed that and got 3 entrys
[01:59] <jorge_> hello
[01:59] <Romster> du works and that's from coreutils?
[01:59] <tritium> Romster: it should be /bin/dd
[01:59] <Romster> thats what i thought too.
[01:59] <jorge_> alguien habla español?
[01:59] <tritium> !es | jorge_
[01:59] <ubotu> jorge_: En el canal donde esta solo se premite hablar ingles. Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[01:59] <Gnea> Romster: what version of ubuntu is installed?
[01:59] <Romster> gutsy
[02:00] <Gnea> should be /bin/dd then
[02:00] <Romster> and i'm over the phone to the person...
[02:00] <TheViLliN> DocMangler: Good call,  excellent game.  I have to check out the spport for it
[02:00] <prince_jammys> heh, they changed the factoid from "In this channel" to "In the channel where you are"
[02:00] <kindofabuzz_> ok, will someone try kindofabuzz.homelinux.net again? should just get failed to connect?
[02:00] <GEIS> anyone uses mldonkey and knows how to connect to server from webui ?
[02:00] <GEIS> Stroganoffu there?
[02:01] <GEIS> Stroganoff u there?
[02:01] <Gnea> kindofabuzz_: yup
[02:01] <Stroganoff> yep
[02:01] <kindofabuzz_> ok cool
[02:01] <Stroganoff> GEIS, download a server.met
[02:01] <Romster> trying to get the person to run sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1, to reset the mbr so the person can install windows again.
[02:01] <GEIS> Stroganof, i click on import servers.met, it listed me some servers,but how do i connect to them
[02:01] <GEIS> im using the webui btw
[02:02] <Stroganoff> there must be some button GEIS
[02:02] <GEIS> Stroganoff,none i searched everywhere
[02:02] <Romster> ubunto is ment for new users so is there a simple way of doing that without typing that in a term?
[02:02] <Gnea> Romster: nope, that's as simple as it gets
[02:03] <Stroganoff> GEIS, maybe it connects automatically?
[02:03] <Jon855> Gnea, if I'm running a nat, should I have dhcp on so that my desktop can connect?
[02:03] <Romster> easy command to install coreutils? dkpg -u coreutils ?
[02:03] <tanner> how can i install a 32bit package on a 64bit system?
[02:03] <Gnea> Jon855: it couldn't hurt
[02:03] <tritium> Romster: sudo apt-get install --reinstall coreutils
[02:03] <Romster> thanks
[02:04] <Jon855> when I do this, it keeps saying failed to start the firewall, but whenever the dhcp is off it'll turn on but no internet sharing is happening
[02:04] <Gnea> Jon855: not sure, but i have to go.. i'm sure someone else can help you from here
[02:05] <daif> can anybody explain how to mount an external harddrive that isnt automatically doing so?
[02:05] <Jon855> Thank you anyways
[02:05] <Gnea> good luck
[02:05] <tanner> daif, typically "mount -o rw /dev/<device> <mount point>"
[02:06] <GEIS> Stroganoff,why not tell me connect command ,i'll try it in telnet
[02:06] <daif> okay thanks
[02:06] <tanner> daif, although, done as super user
[02:06] <daif> alright thank you
[02:07] <mike__> Any one use VirtualBox ?
[02:07] <snake__> hello. is there any way to install ubuntu from the iso in the hard disk because my cdrom is broken and i can not burn ubuntu in cd
[02:07] <crazy_elf> mike_, I do
[02:07] <ALPSINC> hi all, is it possiable to run things as root, automaticly, after a user has logged in, and under that user's account? (kinda like a promptless sudo)
[02:07] <Stroganoff> GEIS i dont know any commands, i havnt used mldonkey before
[02:07] <shachaf> ALPSINC: Why do you want that?
[02:07] <leo_rockw> ALPSINC: you're describing root, apparently
[02:07] <ALPSINC> and yes, i know of oall the security risks
[02:07] <shachaf> ALPSINC: There's a point to having sudo.
[02:07] <tanner> snake__: have a 1G flashdrive?
[02:08] <leo_rockw> ALPSINC: why don't you just use root?
[02:08] <shachaf> ALPSINC: Is there something specific you'd like to do?
[02:08] <mike__> i wanna know how i can brows a Network share i have Win Xp in virtualbox and C: mapped but ubuntu dont see it
[02:08] <ALPSINC> holdon
[02:08] <snake__> tanner: i thought of it but i gave it to a friend of mine :S
[02:08] <ALPSINC> shachaf: yes, i need to run a bot that chroots it's self
[02:08] <snake__> tanner: so i do not have one
[02:08] <Scunizi> mike__, install avahi
[02:08] <kindofabuzz_> i know sudo gives you root rights, but is it the exact same thing as running on a root account?
[02:08] <ALPSINC> leo_rockw: i need to use as 'user' userland not a 'root' userland
[02:09] <andycr> How would I tell what wireless driver I'm currently using? I looked through the output of lsmod but couldn't spot which one it was without knowing what to look for.
[02:09] <kindofabuzz_> i see sites that tell you that you MUST be root
[02:09] <mike__> o
[02:09] <mike__> k
[02:09] <ALPSINC> kindofabuzz_: sudo == onle line su
[02:09] <Flannel> kindofabuzz_: They aren't written for Ubuntu, or otherwise don't know what they're talking about.
[02:09] <ALPSINC> *one
[02:10] <kindofabuzz_> well this one site is wriiten for gutsy but a certain part tells you to create the root passwd because you must be root to install
[02:10] <Scunizi> mike__, I have win2kpro in vmware server with mapped directories and I couldn't get samba to work right.. all the time.. with avahi I can "see" and access the win VM directories with Ubuntu but not vice-versa
[02:10] <Flannel> ALPSINC: You can tweak the sudoers file to allow certain apps to run without prompts.  What sorts of things are you looking to allow?
[02:10] <Romster> tritium, thanks reinstalling coreutils did it
[02:10] <kindofabuzz_> so sudo is exactuly the same as logging into root?
[02:10] <tritium> Romster: excellent
[02:11] <leo_rockw> kindofabuzz_: sudo == super user do
[02:11] <tritium> kindofabuzz_: not *exactly*
[02:11] <kindofabuzz_> so is it the same?
[02:11] <ALPSINC> Flannel: one program: my bot that chroots it's self
[02:11] <mike__> dude im rly a toltal noob
[02:11] <tritium> But the effects are similar.
[02:11] <Flannel> kindofabuzz_: No, its different, but it accomplishes the same thing.
[02:11] <kindofabuzz_> ok then that's why they say you must be root then
[02:11] <Flannel> ALPSINC: And it runs as your user?
[02:11] <Romster> tritium, i use core linux myself, man that's a bit complex for a new linux user. there should be a man page or someting to tell them about that.
[02:11] <crazy_elf> kindaofabuzz, su sudo would log you in as root though
[02:11] <leo_rockw> kindofabuzz_: i'd say that whatever you do as root can be done with sudo, but they are deff not the same.
[02:11] <crazy_elf> erm sudo su***
[02:11] <kindofabuzz_> so configin sor installing something as sudo is NOT the exact same as doing it as root?
[02:12] <ALPSINC> Flannel: it runs as nobody, but it has to chroot to be there
[02:12] <Flannel> kindofabuzz_: No, thats not correct.  Theysay "you must log in as root" because they don't understand (assumign written for Ubuntu)
[02:12] <tritium> Romster: about what?  coreutils should have been installed already.  No idea why it wasn't.
[02:12] <kindofabuzz_> ok
[02:12] <Flannel> ALPSINC: You could set it up as a daemon like everything else.  Or tweak your sudoers I suppose
[02:12] <Flannel> crazy_elf, kindofabuzz_, sudo -i, don't sudo su.
[02:12] <jeffMASTERflex> kindofabuzz_: for all intents and purposes, using sudo is like being root. it's safer in that you don't have a persistent root login to screw things up
[02:12] <ALPSINC> Flannel: ok...
[02:13] <leo_rockw> and you can also limit sudoers, but not root, afaik
[02:13] <crazy_elf> flannel, is that a safer method?
[02:13] <Flannel> crazy_elf: yeah
[02:13] <shachaf> ALPSINC: Why not just right run the command you want as root?
[02:13] <Romster> the command to wipe the mbr so they can reinstall windows.
[02:13] <Romster> isn't there a help page or something in ubunto to warn/inform them
[02:13] <kindofabuzz_> so basically sudo -i is so you don't have to keep typing sudo everytime for that session?
[02:13] <shachaf> s/right // -- how did that get in there?
[02:13] <Flannel> Romster: the windows install will install itself, you don't need to wipe anything beforehand
[02:13] <orbisvicis> how can i change a user to  system user, id < 1000 ?
[02:14] <tritium> Romster: exactly what Flannel just said
 do u know any thing about the shared folder feture in Virtual box ?
[02:14] <shachaf> kindofabuzz_: That'll be -s.
[02:14]  * tritium thanks Flannel for saving him some typing
[02:14] <Hansel> orbisvicis - look up sudo on google and specifically the wheel group
[02:14] <kindofabuzz_> i just make alieses, like my sudo apt-get install = sagi
[02:14] <shachaf> Or -i, I guess.
[02:14] <Romster> fdisk/format for this user kept freexing and using 'lock C: and fdisk /mbr'
[02:14] <snake__> anyone one here that can tell me how to install ubuntu from the iso that i just downloaded without having to burn it to cd because my cdrom is broken. i am using ubuntu right now so i am not sure if wubi will do for me
[02:14] <shachaf> kindofabuzz_: -i is more thorough, like su -.
[02:14] <Romster> anyways it's fixed.
[02:15] <tritium> Romster: that sounds like a windows problem ;)
[02:15] <shachaf> snake__: If you're using Ubuntu, why do you need the iso?
[02:15] <Romster> tritium, yeah <<
[02:15] <Flannel> !install | snake__
[02:15] <ubotu> snake__: Ubuntu can be installed in a lot of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall. Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[02:15] <Flannel> snake__: that URL has a few methods sans CD
[02:15] <TheViLliN> is it possible to take two harddrives,  on with vista and one with linux, (both installed and working) then install grub to dual boot them or should linux be installed after and see the windows drive
[02:15] <orbisvicis> Hansel, i mean aside from editing /etc/passwd, is there an other way ?
[02:15] <Flannel> TheViLliN: Yes
[02:15] <icanhasadmin> TheViLliN: very possible
[02:16] <Jon855> I've a real question...
[02:16] <crazy_elf> mike__, I'm not positive.  I haven't tried that yet.
[02:16] <shachaf> orbisvicis: usermod?
[02:16] <TheViLliN> awesome,  thanks
[02:16] <shachaf> orbisvicis: What's wrong with editing /etc/passwd (/etc/group, actually).
[02:16] <Jon855> My network set up is like this. And I would want my laptop to act as a dhcp server for internet sharing...
[02:16] <mike__> all im trying to do is share my Linux HOME folder with XP
[02:16] <shachaf> s/.$/?/
[02:17] <Jon855> Wifi -> Laptop -> Switch -> Computers.
[02:17] <Jon855> how would I go about this?
[02:17] <Hansel> orbisvicis - man adduser.. look at the possible switches  :)
[02:17] <prince_jammys> orbisvicis: man usermod
[02:17] <orbisvicis> shachaf, b/c i dont know if i can just change the number
[02:17] <shachaf> orbisvicis: The number?
[02:18] <shachaf> orbisvicis: Hansel suggested that you look into the "wheel" group.
[02:18] <orbisvicis> shachaf, id like to lower the user id
[02:18] <Jon855> anybody mind telling me the differences between ath0 and wifi0 ?
[02:18] <Jester45> does anyone have the time to work tough a messed up apt/ /var partition
[02:18] <prince_jammys> it's not
[02:18] <shachaf> orbisvicis: Oh, I must've missed your original question. :-)
[02:18] <mike__>  dose  any one know any thing about the shared folder feture in Virtual box ?
[02:18] <codechAos> magic
[02:18] <shachaf> orbisvicis: Why do you want to do that?
[02:18] <andycr> Jon855: The devices are named differently on occasion due to different drivers naming them differently
[02:18] <Hansel> shachaf - he wants to change the UID or create a user with a lower UID than 1000... in Ubuntu its recommended to use wheel instead of doing this.  He is kind of breaking with Ubuntu convention...
[02:19] <andycr> Jon855: ath(x) is usually used my MadWifi drivers for atheros cards
[02:19] <orbisvicis> shachaf, the user firebird to administer the database should have been created system but its so now it shows up all over the play in user apps
[02:19] <orbisvicis> like gdm and fast user switch
[02:19] <Jester45> mike__, i think those added things only work on when the emulated os is windows
[02:19] <prince_jammys> Hansel: "wheel" or "admin"
[02:19] <prince_jammys> Hansel: question mark
[02:19] <snake__> Flannel: the method without cd talks about the case when you have windows installed. i have ubuntu 7.10 that i am using right now. i want to install 8.04 in another partition. how can i do this from ubuntu not from windows
[02:19] <shachaf> orbisvicis: I'd just change it myself, but some GUI might be able to do it if you prefer.
[02:19] <Jon855> Okay. i'm just trying to get my internet to be shared over to my desktop
[02:19] <shachaf> orbisvicis: Make sure you find all the files and chown them, though.
[02:20] <Hansel> prince_jammys - I'm the type that doesn't hand hold... I point people in the direction of answers so they can learn  :)
[02:20] <orbisvicis> shachaf, yes, usermod does that for me
[02:20] <Hansel> prince_jammys - you will notice when I told him the adduser command to look at the switches relevant to UID... ;)
[02:20] <Jon855> Nobody?
[02:21] <alan_m> and.....whats the issue jon855....your not giving us much to go on.
[02:21] <codechAos> upgrade to SkynetOS
[02:21] <Jon855> I thought I had explained it.
[02:21] <Jon855> Wifi -> Laptop -> Switch -> Computers.
[02:21] <Jon855> My network set up is like this. And I would want my laptop to act as a dhcp server for internet sharing...
[02:21] <Scunizi> Jon855, are you saying you don't have internet access on the laptop but you do on the desktop machines.. and you want wireless to work on the lappy?
[02:21] <alan_m> oh, i thought you had just come in, im sorry
[02:21] <Jester45> could someone please look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60935/ and tell me what i should do to fix this
[02:21] <pkp> hai
[02:22] <Jon855> the other way around Scunizi
[02:22] <Jon855> I want to share my wifi internet connection to my desktop
[02:22] <Jon855> from the laptop
[02:22] <Flannel> snake__: there's half-dozen methods without CD. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation#head-ca8e337bdfab6bfa1d064371898775fe1e9e22fd
[02:22] <Scunizi> Jon855, yea.. I just read your post before mine just before hitting the enter key... sorry I don't know how to setup DHCP on Ubuntu
[02:24] <cybertux> hi
[02:24] <Hansel> hi
  yes my host OS is Ubuntu and my guest os is XP
[02:24] <Scunizi> Jon855, In thinking about it wouldn't that require 2 nic cards.. in your case one wireless and one hardwired?  If so do you want to provide dhcp via wireless to the other machines? or via the hardwire?
[02:24] <Jon855> I already have a nic built into into my laptop, and the wifi is built into my laptop
[02:24] <Jon855> I have it all.
[02:25] <Jon855> Via hardwire to the machine
[02:25] <Jon855> wifi is my internet source
[02:25] <Jon855> Internet -> Wifi -> Laptop -> Ethernet -> desktop
[02:26] <Scunizi> Jon855, that was my point.. ok.. have you checked this out? http://ubuntulinuxhowto.blogspot.com/2006/06/setup-your-computer-to-be-router.html
[02:26] <Jon855> am reading it now
[02:26] <cybertux> dnfsoopf ?
[02:27] <juice_> anyone know what program to use for sharing mice and keyboards?
[02:27] <Scunizi> Jon855, looks like that might point you in the right direction
[02:28] <frank23> I made an image of a windows partition using partimage. Is there a way to create a bootable restore DVD that would boot and restore that image?
[02:28] <daj0ker> juice_, for a computer next to you? or on a network or what?
[02:28] <Flannel> !afk > JarG0n_afk
[02:28] <juice_> nvm i found it: synergy
[02:28] <daj0ker> yup
[02:29] <rathel> I'm connected to my ubuntu computer through SSH and using Putty on Windows, CenterIM looks weird and doesn't refresh I have to scroll the the buddy list to see if anyone has signed on or off, how do I fix this?
[02:29] <crazy_elf> juice_, I was just fixing to say that
[02:29] <Jon855> Scunizi, I will try  this, thanks
[02:30] <Scunizi> Jon855, np I hope it works.. little things can be quite a dilema sometimes.
[02:31] <Prefix> when using sudo, can you type the password in the first command or do you have to use the promt thing
[02:31] <Scunizi> prompt thingy
[02:31] <Slickness> hello,could anyone telll me how i would download and install the open source ATI drivers? from the web? from the package manager?
[02:31] <Scunizi> !ati | Slickness
[02:31] <ubotu> Slickness: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:32] <Prefix> Scunizi: really? what if i needed a sudo in a sh script?
[02:32] <Flannel> Prefix: The user needs to sudo the script, or you prompt the user
[02:33] <Scunizi> Prefix, that's a different issue.. I'm not sure how to do that..
[02:33] <BramCI> hi, I used to have an ubuntu on a small external hard drive but it just crash miserably and I have no windows CD to boot on my windows partition. There's no other solution than reinstall ubuntu on my "internal" hard drive ?
[02:33] <TaRDy> does any1 know what I can do if a command for tcl works when i do "tcl" first but not in my expect script?
[02:33] <BramCI> (sorry for my bad english)
[02:33] <Prefix> !sudo
[02:33] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[02:33] <TaRDy> BramCI, why don't you try booting to a liveCD?
[02:33] <neil_d> BramCI: does it have info you must have on it ?
[02:34] <Jester45> BramCI, your english is fine
[02:34] <BramCI> TaRDy: I'm actualy on a live CD
[02:34] <ryrys> BramCI, boot from the liveCD of ubuntu :-)
[02:34] <Joelito> Hi guys, Is there a software in ubuntu world that allows me to see what dependencies need a given linux binary?
[02:34] <Slickness> Scunizi : that seems to be for the restricted drivers,i was told to try out the open source drivers
[02:34] <BramCI> I have no other way to boot
[02:35] <khushil> ..
[02:35] <TheViLliN> is there something funny about    umount  that the man does not describe.  I keep trying but it keeps telling my it busy. Even if i try to force it and theres nothing open
[02:35] <BramCI> But now I would like to acces to my windows partition to defrag it to make a new partition to reinstall ubuntu on
[02:35] <Jester45> has anyone had a look at my apt problem
[02:36] <WorkingOnWise> how do I reboot a server using putty?
[02:36] <ryrys> BramCI, do it with fdisk o gparted
[02:36] <Hansel> sudo shutdown -r now
[02:36] <rathel> I'm connected to my ubuntu computer through SSH and using Putty on Windows, CenterIM looks weird and doesn't refresh I have to scroll the buddy list to see if anyone has signed on or off, how do I fix this?
[02:36] <BramCI> ryrys: no risk of loosing data ?
[02:37] <alan_m> Hansel, that was for WorkingOnWise correct?
[02:37] <BramCI> I have important things on my windows partition
[02:37] <Hansel> alan_m - yes...
[02:37] <zalker> woot ubuntu
[02:37] <alan_m> Hansel, just making sure :)
[02:37] <neil_d> BramCI: you can try this http://www.grc.com/sr/spinrite.htm it can apparently fix a lot of HDD problems, it isn't free thou.
[02:37] <lhoerste> i'm trying to follow the mysql guide on the wiki but i cant set the root user up. whats' wrong?
[02:37] <ryrys> BramCI, depend, if you have a partition ready for install it, no problem, but RESIZE a particion with data, i suggest backup first
[02:37] <WorkingOnWise> Hansel: thanks
[02:38] <KhushilDep> Hello All - busy night huh.. :-)
[02:38] <BramCI> neil_d: it makes horrible sound I don't think I have any hope
[02:40] <BramCI> ryrys: and there no way to "avoid" grub phase to boot on windows ?
[02:40] <Wrec> ugh, what's the website called that we use to paste info
[02:40] <BramCI> 3h of backup data it's a bit hard :/
[02:40] <Wrec> paste something
[02:40] <leo_rockw> Wrec: pastebin
[02:40] <Wrec> thanks
[02:40] <crazy_elf> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[02:41] <ryrys> BramCI, sure
[02:42] <BramCI> ryrys: but how ? I've only found solution talking about using windows CD (that I have lost ...)
[02:42] <lhoerste> i'm trying to follow the mysql guide on the wiki but i cant set the root user up. whats' wrong?
[02:42] <TaRDy> does any1 know what I can do if a command for tcl works on tcl cli first but not in my expect script?
[02:43] <poseidon> When downloading programs for ubuntu, I should download the .tar.gz, correct.
[02:44] <leo_rockw> poseidon: that's a maybe
[02:44] <crazy_elf> poseidon, depends on if you want to compile it or you want it to just be installed from a package.  deb is an automated package install
[02:44] <prince_jammys> poseidon: tar.gz is a zipped archive that could contain any kind of file. you want to download a .deb file, or an archive that contains one. (this is of course if the package you want is not available in the repositories)
[02:44] <poseidon> leo_rockw, how do I know what to download?
[02:44] <neil_d> poseidon: check synaptic first to see if there is a ubunut package
[02:45] <leo_rockw> poseidon: you probably want a deb
[02:45] <leo_rockw> poseidon: do what neil_d said
[02:45] <prince_jammys> poseidon: what program is it?
[02:45] <poseidon> awn
[02:45] <poseidon> http://code.google.com/p/avant-window-navigator/
[02:45] <prince_jammys> poseidon: that can be obtained through apt if you add a repository
[02:45] <rathel> I'm connected to my ubuntu computer through SSH and using Putty on Windows, CenterIM looks weird and doesn't refresh I have to scroll the buddy list to see if anyone has signed on or off, how do I fix this?
[02:45] <poseidon> Sorry if this seems trivial, but I just got linux today
[02:45] <leo_rockw> poseidon: there has to be a deb for ubuntu around the internets
[02:46] <Jon855> differences between i686 and i386?
[02:46] <leo_rockw> rathel: i may have a solution
[02:46] <crazy_elf> rathel, have you tried pidgin?
[02:46] <alan_m> poseidon, there are no stupid questions, just the ones that are left unanswered hehe
[02:46] <prince_jammys> poseidon http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-install-avant-window-navgator-in-ubuntu-gutsy-gibbon.html
[02:46] <poseidon> Thanks guys
[02:47] <neil_d> alan_m: there is a big difference between stupid and ignorant.
[02:47] <leo_rockw> rathel: try these 2 commands: LANG=en_EN.ASCII and TERM=linux
[02:47] <leo_rockw> rathel: that worked for me. i was using ssh from my nintendo DS
[02:47] <rathel> leo_rockw: Okay I'll try that, thanks.
[02:47] <alan_m> neil_d, true :)
[02:47] <Jon855> generally which is better kde or gnome?
[02:48] <prince_jammys> hehe
[02:48] <neil_d> oops poseidon : there is a big difference between stupid and ignorant.
[02:48] <Pickles> gnome
[02:48] <alan_m> Jon855, depending on what you like or are used to
[02:48] <alan_m> its really user preference
[02:48] <Jon855> ok
[02:48] <rathel> leo_rockw: That worked thanks. :)
[02:48] <ryrys> BramCI, http://supergrub.forjamari.linex.org/ could help maybe
[02:48] <Scunizi> Jon855, you can actually have both on the sys at the same time and choose what you want at logon with sessions
[02:48] <alan_m> kde to me is beautiful, but gnome is awesome as well..
[02:49] <leo_rockw> rathel: don't ask me what it does, i have no idea, haha. i only know it works
[02:49] <alan_m> scunizi, yep
[02:49] <prince_jammys> Jon855: yeah, get em both and then decide. (there's even more if you don't like those)
[02:49] <BramCI> ryrys: thx I take a look
[02:49] <alan_m> kde and gnome are just the most popular jon855
[02:50] <leo_rockw> Jon855: don't listen to these people, kde is the best (nah, i'm just trolling, try both)
[02:50] <ryrys> BramCI, if not, u cant exange the devices
[02:50] <prince_jammys> even though leo_rockw is right ;)
[02:50] <alan_m> kde rocks, i do agree, but like i said :)
[02:50] <memian> hi everyone, i want to ask a question about live cd users and pass. I'm prepairing a custom xubuntu live CD using https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization . i want to create an user/pass.  on the site it's said that i have to crypt password using mkpasswd. in my host system i created password (hash) and enter it to initramfstools/scripts/casper-bottom/10addliveuser. but it didn't work. actually i'm suspicius about the salt (which is created by ran
[02:50] <graft> my boot loader always gets the wrong order for disks... what do i do?
[02:50] <SpudDogg> Does anyone know what might be making my wireless card disconnect all the time while using wpasupplicant?
[02:50] <ryrys> BramCI, grub> map (hd0) (hd1) and then grub > map (hd1) (hd0)
[02:51] <ryrys> BramCI, http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/grub-faq.html#q10 I think this can be work for you :-)
[02:52] <BramCI> ryrys: you sur ? I think he won't find one of the 2hd and will refuse to load
[02:52] <BramCI> oh, I'll try it
[02:52] <ryrys> BramCI, whats happens when u do fdisk -l ?
[02:52] <spiniker> hello
[02:53] <neil_d> Jon855: and to add another xfce4 is good for a smaller system.
[02:53] <spiniker> anybody  knows how to use azureus? im having problem downloading torrents
[02:53] <BramCI> ryrys: it shows me bunch of information
[02:53] <spiniker> it says the tracker is unregistered
[02:53] <Jon855> alright, thanks neil_d
[02:53] <mcquaid> pwd
[02:53] <BramCI>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[02:53] <BramCI> /dev/sdb1               1       60801   488384001    7  HPFS/NTFS
[02:54] <ryrys> BramCI, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org this to paste large things
[02:54] <zalker> im using azureus
[02:54] <BramCI> and other thing but I don't want to flood to much
[02:54] <spiniker> can u help me?
[02:54] <spiniker> im running dapper 6.06
[02:54] <nico_> alguien español¿?
[02:54] <nico_> :s
[02:54] <bruenig> !es
[02:54] <zalker> im usinge 7.10
[02:54] <ubotu> En este canal, solamente hablamos ingles. Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[02:54] <BramCI> ryr: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60938/
[02:55] <spiniker> and i cant seem to download
[02:55] <ryrys> nico_, usa #ubuntu-es :)
[02:55] <prince_jammys> hey, they changed the factoid back'
[02:55] <addicted68098> Hi, I am using the Beta 8.04 and whenever I use the workspace switcher the panels crash, does anyone else have the same problem, GNOME has always been a bit funky on my computer.
[02:55] <zalker> have you tried a differant port?
[02:55] <nico_> tnx ryrye!!
[02:55] <ApOgEE-> hi, my wget returns ERROR: Certificate verification error for wiki.ubuntu.com: ... any ideas? how can i fix it?
[02:56] <ibback> Hi all
[02:56] <neil_d> ApOgEE-: what url are you using ?  maybe I can check it.
[02:56] <spiniker> nope,i just used the default..what port should i use
[02:56] <meltdwn> hello...I have a small question...I would like a change and am thinking of changeing my DNS server over to ubuntu...do they offer a no graphical server version
[02:56] <meltdwn> I have never used ubuntu
[02:56] <ctimko> hi
[02:57] <ApOgEE-> neil_d, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuMagazine/TranslateFullCircle?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=issue2.tar.gz
[02:57] <zalker> you should be able to test diferrant numbers
[02:57] <addicted68098> I can't start apache because something else is using port 80 is there a way to find the program causing the problem.
[02:57] <ctimko> I have a question on 8.04
[02:57] <mad_max02> me too
[02:57] <ryrys> BramCI, and you remember in what label was mounted ur ubuntu? so you can exange in grub, for example: grub > map sda1 sdb1 and then map sdb1 sda1
[02:57] <mad_max02> but someone can try and help you if you ask it
[02:57] <ctimko> can i revert back to 7.10 from the beta
[02:57] <prince_jammys> ctimko: #ubuntu+1 is the channel you want
[02:58] <meltdwn> I have used most other flavors of linux/unix though..
[02:58] <neil_d> ApOgEE-: I get the same trouble, I have found that some sites block wget, have you tried getting wget to mascruade as something else.
[02:58] <ctimko> ok, thank you
[02:58] <nico_> ehy
[02:58] <spiniker> any port in particular?
[02:58] <Jaymac> ctimko, not easily.
[02:58] <BramCI> ryrys: no, it was on a small external HD of 8go, but I don't remember it's name
[02:58] <nico_> can anybody help me plz
[02:59] <nico_> im newbie :s
[02:59] <ctimko> creatt..
[02:59] <ctimko> greattt...
[02:59] <ApOgEE-> neil_d, I don't know other way, can u download it using wget?
[02:59] <spiniker> i used azureus it before on windows
[02:59] <nico_> and im confused with instalations
[02:59] <zalker> im using 36330 and it seems to be downloading
[02:59] <Jaymac> !ask | nico
[02:59] <ubotu> nico: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[02:59] <neil_d> ApOgEE-: nope.  hang on a sec.
[03:00] <lhoerste> I've installed wordpress with apache and php but the php files are just downloading instead of rendering. I have php5.conf in my mods-enabled directory
[03:00] <nico_> jaymac
[03:00] <nico_> can u?
[03:00] <Jaymac> nico_, what is your question?
[03:00] <nico_> about the formats
[03:00] <addicted68098> does samba use port 80?
[03:00] <nico_> do u want a private?
[03:01] <Jaymac> nico_, please ask your question on one line and I'll do my best my best to help you
[03:01] <nico_> okok
[03:01] <jsteezey> addicted no i dont believe so
[03:01] <Jaymac> oops... subtract my best - i'm a bit drunk :)
[03:01] <nico_> i dont know how to install aplicatiosn
[03:01] <nico_> :S
[03:01] <ApOgEE-> neil_d, actually i only got parts of broken download using firefox, if i download again using firefox, it will restart the download. I thought I can just continue the partial download using wget -c .. ;)
[03:01] <tux97> addicted no port 80 is for websites html
[03:01] <nico_> the .tg...
[03:01] <Jaymac> nico_, try Applications > Add/Remove Programs
[03:01] <nico_> nono
[03:02] <Jaymac> oh ok nico
[03:02] <Jaymac> if you have a file .tar.gz or .tgz..
[03:02] <nico_> yeeeeeahh
[03:02] <nico_> !
[03:02] <neil_d> ApOgEE-: I tried to get wget to pretend it was firefox but that didn't work. sorry don't know what to do.
[03:02] <ApOgEE-> neil_d, ok thanks
[03:02] <BramCI> ryrys: it's not possible to find it in the grub ? it doesn't keep information ?
[03:03] <lampron> someone know how to remove the sticky windows in compiz ?
[03:03] <nico_> can u jaymac?
[03:03] <lampron> in way that i can move my window and not stick them to the screen side
[03:03] <graft> my KVM is causing X to use really weird modes
[03:03] <Jaymac> nico_,  you run it like so: (in a terminal) tar zxvf filename.tar.gz Then, you change to the newly created directory: cd filename/ ... and do: ./configure followed by make && sudo make install
[03:03] <graft> what can i do about this?
[03:03] <ryrys> BramCI, hmmmm maybe this work, try using this in grub: grub > root (sdb0,1) or 1,0 . try this
[03:03] <Jaymac> nico_, first, type this in a terminal: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:04] <nico_> okok
[03:04] <Animortis> Can anyone relate a means to find the official network name of my printer so I can share it over a network?
[03:04] <nico_> ill try
[03:04] <prince_jammys> lampron it's somewhere in the few hundred options that compiz has. try searching in compiz-config
[03:04] <nico_> tnx!!
[03:04] <Johnuah> Will Ubuntu 804 fully support EEEpc?
[03:04] <BramCI> ryrys: no doesn't work
[03:05] <jsteezey> graft force x to use the modes you want by editing your xorg.conf
[03:05] <ryrys> BramCI, and using grub > root (sdb0,1) o sdb1,0 o sdb1 either?
[03:05] <crdlb> lampron: Wobbly Windows > Invert Snap
[03:05] <Jaymac> nico_,  i have to run.  if you get stuck, look at this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=246092
[03:05] <jsteezey> dont leave it on auto
[03:05] <Jaymac> nico_, good luck!
[03:05] <graft> jsteezey: it's very hard to force X to do anything
[03:05] <jsteezey> graft what mode do you want?
[03:05] <nikrud> lampron turn off snapping windows under window management
[03:05] <jsteezey> its really easy actually
[03:05] <BramCI> ryrys: neither, I've tried random number but each time: Error 23: Error while parsing number
[03:06] <lampron> crdlb, thank you !
[03:06] <lampron> nikrud, nope, wrong setting, crdlb got it
[03:06] <crdlb> nikrud: that only works if you're _not_ using wobbly
[03:06] <crdlb> it's odd :/
[03:06] <nikrud> lampron hm, I had wobbly off :)
[03:06] <ryrys> BramCI, is not a random number, its the number of ur HD, sdb1 shows fdisk
[03:07] <nikrud> wobbly sucks, anyway.
[03:07] <prince_jammys> shame on you!
[03:07] <bazhang> Johnuah: #ubuntu+1 please
[03:07] <prince_jammys> just kidding.
[03:07] <prince_jammys> i don't even have compiz
[03:08]  * nikrud eyes prince_jammys, and sidles away, slowly
[03:08] <Animortis> Can anyone relate a means to find the official network name of my printer so I can share it over a network?
[03:08] <graft> jsteezey: won't it just not load?
[03:09] <jsteezey> graft you need to edit the xorg.conf file if you want to force it to use a certain resolution
[03:09] <freckledp> Anyone noticed Firefox 3 b4 starts in offline mode?  I can't figure out how to keep it from doing so...and nobody on #firefox is answering
[03:09] <graft> jsteezey: okay, i'll try that and see if it works
[03:09] <Animortis> THat's on 7.10...
[03:09] <jsteezey> thats why your getting funky modes cuz your kvm is not telling x the proper resolution
[03:09] <jsteezey> ok
[03:09] <jsteezey> look in the section under Display
[03:10] <jsteezey> you probably either have multiple modes set or none at all
[03:10] <Xpistos> anyone familiar with Virtual box
[03:10] <prince_jammys> nikrud: will you be my friend if i install compiz?
[03:10] <icanhasadmin> prince_jammys: i'll be your friend if you don't :D
[03:10] <bazhang> Xpistos: having issues? please specify
[03:10] <BramCI> ryrys: looks like I have to backup and tried a new installation
[03:11] <Xpistos> I have a VM with Vista on it and I am trying to share a folder and also be able to use my cd drive and usb drives so I once and for all strike MS from my system
[03:11] <icanhasadmin> i love how by default ubuntu will display characters from like any language
[03:11] <nikrud> prince_jammys you can be my friend anyway, plenty of them are uncool ;)
[03:11] <memian> Xpistos: u can't use usb drivers
[03:12] <ryrys> BramCI, hmm sorry I dont have another idea :( hmmmmmmm maybe using --boot-drive=sdb1 !
[03:12] <Animortis> Can anyone please tell me how to get my printer's official name so I can use it on a network in 7.10?
[03:12] <Xpistos> what about a shared folder
[03:12] <prince_jammys> nikrud: thanks ;)
[03:12] <Xpistos> If I can get that to work I can pass info this way
[03:12] <juice_> what do i use to burn a .iso to disk?
[03:12] <ryrys> BramCI, restart and use that parameter
[03:12] <bazhang> Animortis: what is the name of your printer? that would be a start
[03:12] <memian> Xpistos: actually i couldn't make that work, so i used an FTP server
[03:12] <bazhang> juice_: right click open with cd/dvd creator
[03:13] <juice_> bazhang: can i mount them too?
[03:13] <BramCI> ryrys: where will rebooting ? I only have a grub error message and no possibility to act
[03:13] <Xpistos> on vista or linux
[03:13] <bazhang> juice_: if it is a video, or what?
[03:13] <rectec794613> how do i join the ubuntu forums?
[03:13] <Animortis> bazhang, I don't know, that's the problem. It's an HP Photosmart C4280, but using Photosmart_C4200_series doesn't work in the printer URL on the windows PCs being served.
[03:13] <memian> i tried on gutsy to run xubuntu live
[03:14] <juice_> bazhang: nvm i got it
[03:14] <bazhang> rectec794613: go there create an account and then get the pass in an email
[03:14] <gottadollhair> so I installed swat and samba but I cannot get swat to connect i nthe browser. what am i doing wrong
[03:14] <rectec794613> i dont see a create account option
[03:15] <bazhang> rectec794613: try to reply to a problem there
[03:15] <rectec794613> o nvm
[03:15] <memian> Xpistos: and also keep in mind that virtualBox sends request from 127.0.0.1 not from the specified virtual ip adress.
[03:15] <Xpistos> memain: You installed an ftp server on windows and then used an ftp client to connect with linux?
[03:15] <rectec794613> ok
[03:15] <rectec794613> problem solved
[03:15] <ryrys> BramCI, ahhhh, what is the error?
[03:16] <Eroick> what language and GUI toolkit are the ubuntu config apps written with? ie the add/remove programs, network managers, etc...
[03:16] <memian> there wasn't windows. my host system was ubuntu 7.10 (gutsy). i installed an ftp server on my host.
[03:16] <tritium> Eroick: many are written in python, and use gtk+
[03:16] <Xpistos> okay, what was the vm
[03:17] <Eroick> tritium: do the devs use glade or some kind of builder?
[03:17] <memian> Xpistos: Xubuntu 7.10 Live on virtualBox
[03:17] <Xpistos> Oh
[03:17] <Xpistos> I see
[03:17] <Jester45> many use glade
[03:17] <BramCI> ryrys: don't remember exactly, something like 17 or 19. It appear frequently went I forgot to turn on my hd
[03:17] <Jester45> they have .glade files in some place
[03:17] <memian> Xpistos: and if files are small consider gmail ;)
[03:18] <Xpistos> they aren't
[03:18] <yoandy> hi, is there any guide on installing icedtea-java firefox plugin on hardy?
[03:18] <Xpistos> 700mb-1gb
[03:18] <ryrys> BramCI, ah ok, well ur now with the livecd right?
[03:18] <tritium> yoandy: hardy questions in #ubuntu+1
[03:18] <BramCI> ryrys: yes
[03:18] <Xpistos> I can't get the dvd encoding software to work all that great
[03:18] <Xpistos> Thanks for the suggestions Memian
[03:18] <ryrys> BramCI, do this: sudo grub
[03:18] <Xpistos> Much appreciated
[03:18] <yoandy> ok, thanks tritium
[03:18] <memian> Xpistos: oh wait
[03:18] <Xpistos> Yes
[03:18] <memian> Xpistos: what about samba?
[03:19] <Xpistos> what about it
[03:19] <ryrys> BramCI, root (sdb1)
[03:19] <memian> Xpistos: may be you can use it, share a folder on win and connect from VM
[03:19] <ryrys> BramCI, setup(sdb1)
[03:19] <ryrys> BramCI, quit
[03:19] <juice_> ok i'm trying to boot from live cd but when i select boot in safe graphics mode it says "kernel panic - not syncing: attempted to kill the idle task" wtf do i do?
[03:20] <Xpistos> I am having trouble getrint the shared folder to work, but honestly, I have only realley worked on it for about 30  min - 1hr
[03:20] <BramCI> ryrys: "Error 23: Error while parsing number" for root and setup
[03:20] <tronz> not sure if this is the right cannel for this question but.... does any1 know how to set up the serial port to do 115200 baud?? I can get it to work for up to and including 38400 but higher than that and I get garbage out
[03:20] <ryrys> BramCI, if doest work, use root (hd0) then setup(hd0) and then quit
[03:20] <tronz> I am using C and termios
[03:21] <BramCI> ryrys: Error 17: Cannot mount selected partition for setup
[03:21] <techqbert> how does firefox 3 beta perform on heron?  is it quicker then 2 on gutsy?
[03:21] <anaoum> hardy heron ftw
[03:21] <exile> hello
[03:21] <memian> Xpistos: hmm, FTP may be the best quick and dirty solution for you then.
[03:21] <tech404> techqbert, yes i does
[03:22] <SpudDogg> !wpa
[03:22] <techqbert> tech404: really, I'm almost tempted to update-manager -d on a production machine.. hrm...
[03:22] <anaoum> !wpa
[03:22] <Xpistos> I'll five it a shot and If I find out more I will let you guys know
[03:22] <Xpistos> Thanks again
[03:22] <anaoum> !rr
[03:22] <tech404> does anyone know if there is a way to force luks to require 2 keys? Such as a keyfile and a password
[03:22] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:22] <memian> Xpistos: u r wellcome
[03:22] <exile> oh God, i need help
[03:22] <abc> i am having a kinda wierd problem with gusyt gibbon, when i play feull screen games, it will pop outta full screen and go to a windowed mode and then i have 2 manualy restart my computer, is ther a way to fix this
[03:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rr - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:23] <tech404> techqbert, i would if i was you... hardy is going to be great and it is already pretty polished
[03:23] <CaptMorgan> here is a really simple question, how do I verify if a computer has Flash player installed? I need to know to help a co-worker out and I am not infront of the computer, was hoping for a terminal command o something
[03:23] <ryrys> BramCI, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60939/
[03:23] <juice_> ok i'm trying to boot from live cd but when i select boot in safe graphics mode it says "kernel panic - not syncing: attempted to kill the idle task" wtf do i do?
[03:23] <tritium> CaptMorgan: apt-cache policy flashplugin-nonfree
[03:23] <tronz> maybe some1 could reccomend a better channel to ask my question in
[03:23] <juice_> CaptMorgan: try plaing a video on youtube
[03:23] <amenado> CaptMorgan-> adobe web site has a test for flash plugin
[03:24] <techqbert> tech404: yeah I've heard the beta is really stable
[03:24] <CaptMorgan> tritium, thanks
[03:24] <tech404> abc, I dont know what the problem is but I used to have the same one in gutsy... do you use the nvidia proprietary driver?
[03:24] <CaptMorgan> juice_ so she does have it then cause  I know she is always watching youtube
[03:24] <tritium> CaptMorgan: sure.  That's to test for the ubuntu package, to see if it's installed.
[03:24] <juice_> CaptMorgan: word
[03:24] <BramCI> ryrys: same error for the setup :/
[03:24] <abc> tech404 i have waht ever it installed automaticaly, linux noob here
[03:25] <Animortis> Can anyone please tell me how to get my printer's official name so I can use it on a network in 7.10?
[03:25] <napi> Ask it nicely? :p
[03:25] <juice_> anyone know why my kernel isnt syncing when i boot from liveCD?
[03:25] <tech404> abc, I would just wait a bit and install hardy from scratch... it has been flawless for me
[03:25] <amenado> one good thing i guess is that nasty npviewer.bin (for flash) does not exist in ubuntu
[03:25] <ryrys> BramCI, hmmm I dont have any idea then :(
[03:25] <anaoum> ubuntu vs debian
[03:26] <Jon855> Ubuntu is debian based
[03:26] <Jon855> so that's moot
[03:26] <juice_> ha
[03:26] <graft> xorg.conf is bullshit, man
[03:26] <anaoum> trivia: where did the name "Debian" originate from?
[03:26] <tritium> !language | graft
[03:26] <ubotu> graft: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[03:26] <Jon855> My friend's a Debian nerd, and he says debian is the way to go
[03:26] <graft> it's 2008, why do i still have to edit my modelines?
[03:26] <tech404> Debra and Ian
[03:26] <tritium> anaoum: please stay on topic
[03:26] <CaptMorgan> graft, not for long
[03:26] <abc> tech404 are u useing the beta? i'm a big gamer and this is driving me INSANE
[03:27] <anaoum> sorry tritium :P
[03:27] <anaoum> Debra & Ian is correct though
[03:27] <graft> CaptMorgan: yeah, i keep hearing that
[03:27] <tritium> Animortis: how is the printer being shared?  Direct network connection?
[03:27] <abc> and i must say i LOVE all the eye candy, am i gonna lose ne of that goin to the newer version?
[03:27] <tech404> abc, hardy is already acting better for me the gutsy ever did... and because I have new top o the line hw it was a great step for me.... i bet your in the same boat
[03:28] <tech404> abc, no it gets better in the new version
[03:28] <CaptMorgan> graft, believe me I hate it to xorg-edit is a simple program that can build your modelines and input them for you
[03:28]  * tritium observes "your" is the most mis-used word on IRC
[03:28] <ryrys> xdd
[03:28]  * nikrud thought it was u
[03:28] <tritium> nikrud: u is not a word.  It's a letter.
[03:28] <napi> "its/it's" is probably high up the list
[03:28] <graft> CaptMorgan: i don't mind the editing, it's just the thinking about it that i hate
[03:28] <abc> tech404 thanks for the help, i think i'll save my music and pic and give it a try
[03:28] <Animortis> tritium, Directly through a home network. I want to share it to an XP laptop, and i'm looking at the wiki entry on printer sharing but the url I put in the Windows "Add a Printer" wizard is http://mypcname:631/printers/PRINTER_NAME and I don't know what that is. I've tried everything.
[03:28] <juice_> anyone know where i go to find a L.U.G. in my hood?
[03:29] <nikrud> tritium misused outside of it's language ;p
[03:29] <graft> CaptMorgan: Xorg should just figure out the optimal resolution and use it
[03:29] <BramCI> ryrys: well thank for every thing. I'm gonna ask a big hd to a friend to backup
[03:29] <tritium> nikrud: indeed
[03:29] <SpudDogg> Trying to get WPA working in this machine is giving me a horrible headache.
[03:29] <juice_> anyone know where i go to find a L.U.G. in my hood?
[03:29] <ryrys> BramCI, oki, good luck ;-)
[03:30] <tritium> Animortis: directly on the network?  i.e., attached to a router, or otherwise directly via ethernet?
[03:30] <Animortis> tritium, Yes
[03:30] <CaptMorgan> graft: imagine how I feel having a generic no name LCD TV, its like nailing jello to a wall untl i get it down
[03:30] <BramCI> ryrys:
[03:31] <tritium> Animortis: well, that URL you gave was for a printer connected to a machine running cups, where the printer was connected to the machine, not the network directly
[03:31] <BramCI> thx
[03:31] <Pickles> Question: How do you update your flash player on Opera for 7.04
[03:31] <sul354> test
[03:31] <Pickles> I can't get it to work :(
[03:31] <bazhang> http://$SERVER:631/printers Animortis try this from the ubuntu web browser
[03:31] <Belenion> !LAMP
[03:31] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[03:31] <SpudDogg> Does anyone have any insight into getting WPA working with an ipw3945 in gutsy?
[03:31] <Animortis> tritium, Allow me to clarify, maybe I misunderstood you. An Ubuntu 7.10 PC with a directly connected printer sharing to a Windows XP laptop on a network.
[03:32] <juice_> Pickles: use firefox ;)
[03:32] <tritium> Animortis: you've configured cups to share it?
[03:32] <anaoum> ubuntu needs to do hibernation like debian!
[03:32] <tritium> anaoum: it does
[03:32] <nomic> pickles it may be a browser 'plugin'
[03:32] <Pickles> juice_:Same problem, i've tried it.
[03:32] <usser> there now firefox is not better than opera
[03:32] <bazhang> http://www.funnestra.org/ubuntu/gutsy/ at the bottom of this page are more hints Animortis
[03:33] <anaoum> does ubuntu do hibernation in a completely different way to debian?
[03:33] <juice_> Pickles: a bar pops up at the top of the page with a button on the right, click it
[03:33] <Animortis> tritium, I didn't know I had to. It doesn't say anything about that in the wiki. I have the printer working fine on this, the UBuntu desktop with the printer directly plugged in so I assumed sharing was simply a matter of connection.
[03:33] <anaoum> i'd think theyd be similar
[03:33] <anaoum> but evidently they are not
[03:33] <tritium> Animortis: yes, you have to explicitly enable sharing
[03:33] <SpudDogg> Does anyone have any insight into getting WPA working with an ipw3945 in gutsy?
[03:34] <Animortis> tritium, Alright, how? Or can you link me to something that'll say how? *does wiki search while waiting*
[03:34] <tritium> Animortis: System -> Administration -> Printing
[03:34] <memstat> just get firefox and install flash
[03:34] <memstat> opera is cool but not that cool
[03:35] <bazhang> SpudDogg: does the nm-applet not respond?
[03:35] <memstat> firefox is nice, clean , and has alot of support even from big companies
[03:35] <Animortis> tritium, I've seen that dialog and have the "Share printers connected to this system" check-marked.
[03:35] <memstat> plus it is a simple terminal line to install flash
[03:36] <SpudDogg> bazhang:  well when i had that "working" it kept dropping my connection then reconnecting.  I read that a solution was to use wicd instead, but I could not get that to connect at all.  Now I've reinstalled network-manager and network-manager-gnome, but my card is not even recognized anymore
[03:37] <tritium> Animortis: then all you need to do is follow the steps for adding a network printer on the Windows side.
[03:37] <bazhang> SpudDogg: what does ifconfig say in the terminal? just eth0 and the loopback?
[03:38] <trr92> any one knoe how to stream music to a psp from ubuntu
[03:38] <exile777> is there a way to list all the drives, specifically cd and dvd drives from the commandline?
[03:38] <CaptMorgan> Does anyone have input as to if 8.04 is stable enough to move to full time yet?
[03:38] <Animortis> tritium, Ah, that's the problem and we're back to the beginning. What's the name of my printer so I can enter it into the network URL field in the Windows XP add printer wizard (Or rather, how do I find the name?)
[03:38] <bazhang> CaptMorgan: #ubuntu+1 please
[03:38] <Pickles> One more quick question, Is there anyway to change the colour scheme for Ubuntu 7.04?
[03:39] <tronz> can anyone tell me what this message wants me to do?
[03:39] <tritium> Animortis: it should auto-detect via the network
[03:39] <tronz> :leguin.freenode.net 506 tronz ##c :Please register with services and use the IDENTIFY command (/msg nickserv help) to speak in this channel
[03:39] <Animortis> tritium, It does not.
[03:39] <tritium> !register | tronz
[03:39] <ubotu> tronz: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.
[03:39] <memstat> amarok will stream to psp
[03:39] <SpudDogg_> bazhang:  i manually started nm-applet and it appears to be working now.  however, i get this in my terminal: ** (nm-applet:16454): WARNING **: couldn't communicate with gnome keyring daemon via dbus: The name org.gnome.keyring was not provided by any .service files
[03:40] <tritium> Animortis: try restarting cups, then: sudo invoke-rc.d cupsys restart, and then try again
[03:40] <tronz> thnx
[03:40] <tritium> Animortis: beyond that, I can't help you much, as I don't use windows.
[03:40] <Radit> How do I set ubuntu to automatically connect to a wireless network?
[03:40] <bazhang> SpudDogg_: always had trouble with nm-applet and so forth; would you like a guide how to do it the command line way?
[03:40] <memstat> Radit just connect to it constantly then it will learn
[03:41] <anaoum> http://arstechnica.com/articles/paedia/track-linux.ars/2
[03:41] <tritium> Radit: let Network Manager connect to one
[03:41] <SpudDogg_> bazhang:  absolutely.  i always prefer command line
[03:41] <nikrud> SpudDogg is this running:  /usr/bin/gnome-keyring-daemon
[03:41] <yn> Hi. I am having difficulty using dpkg-divert to resolve a conflict. I am using Envy to install the latest ati catalyst drivers on 64-bit Ubuntu. When I run envy, it tries to install the package that it just built, and can't install it because there is a conflict with /usr/lib32/libGL.so.1, which is also provided by ia32-libs
[03:41] <memstat> Radit: once you connect to the same one it remembers after awhile
[03:41] <tritium> !envy | yn
[03:41] <ubotu> yn: envy is an unsupported tool to install newer versions of binary video drivers than provided by the official repositories. Use at your own risk, and remember that the latest version is not necessarily the "best". See « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[03:41] <bazhang> CaptMorgan: /j #ubuntu+1 for Hardy discussion please
[03:41] <bazhang> CaptMorgan: just type that in the irc client message window
[03:42] <SpudDogg_> nikrud:  yes, it is
[03:42] <memstat> .
[03:42] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=571188 SpudDogg_ here you go
[03:42] <Animortis> Really quick, what's the cups restart command?
[03:42] <SpudDogg_> bazhang:  cool, thanks man
[03:42] <nikrud> SpudDogg I guess the best bet is bazhang . Some of the interactions of the gnome tools are not exactly transparent.
[03:42] <bazhang> no worries ;]
[03:43] <amenado> Animortis-> /etc/init.d/cupsys restart
[03:43] <yn> ok, forget about the fact that I am using envy. Can someone explain just how to use dpkg-divert in my situation?
[03:43] <tritium> Animortis: sudo invoke-rc.d cupsys restart
[03:43] <tritium> (as I said above)
[03:43] <Radit> How many times does it take for the Network Manager to remember? I tried rebooting, but it didn't automatically connect to the last wireless network i connected to.. I had to manually select it..
[03:43] <tritium> Radit: once
[03:43] <bazhang> yn hard to forget it when you just said it and this channel does not support it
[03:43] <Radit> tritium: didn't work..
[03:44] <amenado> Radit-> paste in pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces
[03:44] <tritium> Radit: make sure you don't configure the interface manually (i.e., it should *not* be listed in /etc/network/interfaces)
[03:44] <Animortis> Alright... My laptop can see my desktop now when it browses but cannot access the printer through it. This is a different problem, I know it.
[03:44] <tritium> Animortis: so, Windows can now see the printer after restarting cups?
[03:45] <yn> OK, well, I am sorry about that.
[03:45] <yn> Is there an Ubuntu-supported way to install the 8-3 Catalyst drivers?
[03:45] <c0Ld> If I install Ubuntu on my USB key (yes, I know it won't last long, but I'd like to boot into it from school), would it mess with my boot table at all? or would the system never know it exists unless the key is plugged in?
[03:45] <Radit> amenado & tritium: auto lo
[03:45] <tritium> yn: you've read the manpages, etc. on dpkg-divert?
[03:45] <Radit> iface lo inet loopback
[03:45] <yn> yes
[03:45] <AnthraxDream> Can anyone tell me why I can't hear anything?
[03:45] <Animortis> tritium, It can see the computer, but will not let me see the printers on it. I think this has something to do with the laptop also not being able to get into the Ubuntu desktop for file sharing too, saying it's got permission problems. I am searching for a solution on my own to unlock this unless someone's willing to share...
[03:45] <tritium> Radit: if that's all you have, that's good.
[03:46] <amenado> tritium if he didnt have it in the interfaces file,  wouldnt the nm select the strongest signal it can connect to? so it would still forget the last AP it was associated with?
[03:46] <yn> I've setup the diversion, but when the dpkg -i happens, it still complains about the conflict
[03:46] <tritium> amenado: I'm not certain
[03:46] <fismoll9> hey guys, I get this error whenever I try to play audio: W: couldn't connect to HAL, disabling MediaDevices browser followed by *** PULSEAUDIO: Unable to connect: Connection refused. The audio will play, however. What is HAL, and what does the above error mean?
[03:46] <bazhang> amenado: that has been my experience as well
[03:47] <tritium> yn: the debian reference also details dpkg-divert as well.  Perhaps try that
[03:47] <kindofabuzz_> with a NFS share, do i have to create the actual mount point foler or will it be auto created?
[03:47] <nikrud> fismoll9 hardy? ask in #ubuntu+1
[03:47] <kindofabuzz_> folder*
[03:47] <amenado> tritium i have no problems at all having it set in my interfaces file..so everytime I boot up, same AP I use all the time
[03:47] <amenado> bazhang-> what do you  mean? not having it set in the interfaces file?
[03:47] <Radit> how do you do that amenado?
[03:47] <tritium> amenado: NM ignores interfaces that are manually configured in /etc/network/interfaces
[03:48] <bazhang> amenado: I never mess with that cli stuff ;] just the part about the strongest single being the one it goes for first
[03:48] <amenado> tritium if not in roaming mode?
[03:48] <kindofabuzz_> example: mount 192.168.1.27:/home/jigdo/ /root/nfs/ wil the nfs folder be auto created?
[03:48] <tritium> amenado: roaming mode means that it's not configured
[03:48] <bazhang> err signal
[03:48] <amenado> bazhang okay that I agree on, whatever the strongest it finds, it latch on to it, if you have it set to roaming mode
[03:49] <Ububegin> anyone can recommend a simple text editor for writing code...but it can also enable code collapsing (example collapsing code for functions) like as in eclipse...
[03:49] <amenado> tritium oh i see, yeah mine is not set for roaming mode and i have set the essid in the interfaces file, so next reboot, it latch on to same AP
[03:49] <bazhang> amenado: right; and that is for a laptop I take out a bit; for home network computers with wifi they always choose the home one--never had to set that one up though after the initial time
[03:50] <rhombus> I have a server with 12 GB of RAM in it, but Ubuntu Feisty is only showing 4 GB.
[03:50] <rhombus> What might be causing that?
[03:50] <kindofabuzz_> 12G of ram? damn
[03:50] <tritium> amenado: you can configure NM to connect to it, and it'll store your essid, passphrase, etc.
[03:50] <rhombus> kindofabuzz_: it's a terminal server, it needs it
[03:50] <kalatian> rhombus: you have to use 64bit Ubuntu to use more the 4gb of ram
[03:50] <bazhang> rhombus: 64bit or 32bit?
[03:50] <kindofabuzz_> ahh
[03:50] <rhombus> bazhang: I assume it's 32 bit
[03:50] <Pickles> rhombus:are you duel booting?
[03:51] <rhombus> why in hell would I need to use the 64 bit kernel?
[03:51] <rhombus> Pickles: no
[03:51] <bazhang> rhombus: better get 32 bit then if your processor is 64 bit
[03:51] <chris062689> !language rhonmbus
[03:51] <Animortis> Ack. Then... Can anyone tell me how to allow access Ubuntu from an XP PC? I'm getting "...is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. ..."
[03:51] <bazhang> err rhombus I mean 64 and 64
[03:51] <AnthraxDream> Can anyone tell me why I can't hear anything?
[03:51] <tritium> s/duel/dual, Pickles.  (Unless the OSes are sword-fighting)
[03:51] <exile777> is there something to list all connected cd/dvd drives from the command line?
[03:51] <kalatian> rhombus: why wouldn't you use 64bit on a server, esp. if you need more then 4 gb of ram?
[03:51] <rhombus> bazhang: It's a Xeon
[03:51] <bazhang> AnthraxDream: not without any info no
[03:51] <amenado> tritium my experience has been, as long as in roaming mode, whatever settings i have in the interfaces file, get ignored, and it just choose to latch on to the strongest at the time i guess it scans..
[03:52] <Radit> amenado: how do you setup nm to connect to your prefered AP//?
[03:52] <bazhang> rhombus: is that dual core or quad core?
[03:52] <rhombus> kalatian: I can't support 4 GB of RAM with a 32 bit kernel?
[03:52] <AnthraxDream> Well I have esound installed
[03:52] <tritium> rhombus: npe
[03:52] <tritium> nope*
[03:52] <rhombus> bazhang: no, it's a garden variety
[03:52] <AnthraxDream> But nothing is coming out of my speakers
[03:52] <AnthraxDream> Anything else I would need to do?
[03:52] <kalatian> rhombus: up to 4, no more -- there might be a patch somewhere, I can't remember, that allows you to use 32bit and more ram
[03:52] <amenado> Radit-> i uncheck the roaming mode, then select the ESSD of the AP,
[03:52] <kalatian> rhombus: but just using 64bit is by far the easiest way, esp for a server
[03:52] <tritium> kalatian: no, 4 is the limit (2^32 is only so big)
[03:53] <rhombus> Does this mean that the entire system needs to be rebuilt?
[03:53] <bazhang> rhombus: or put the ram elsewhere
[03:53] <tritium> rhombus: you get support 4, but that's the limit.
[03:53] <amenado> Radit and add any additional things i may need in /etc/network/interfaces
[03:53] <kalatian> tritium: yeah -- I thought somewhere I saw something that would allow one to use more then 4gb of ram with 32bit, but maybe not :D
[03:53] <rhombus> I need the RAM, the thing is swapping 2 GB
[03:53] <tux97> do you use gtkpod for apple ipods?
[03:53] <rhombus> I'll use the 64 bit kernel if that's what's required
[03:53] <bazhang> tux97: the newest ones?
[03:54] <rhombus> what I'm more concerned about is that this is a production machine
[03:54] <Radit> amenado: where can i find those settings?
[03:54] <tritium> rhombus: if you need only 4GB, you can get by with a 32-bit system
[03:54] <amenado> kalatian->  i doubt it, as matter of fact, i think you're pretty much limited to 3gb..
[03:54] <tux97> the one before the newest ones i have photo/video 30 gb
[03:54] <rhombus> tritium: well, sadly, I need more
[03:54] <kalatian> rhombus: 64 bit is just as stable, if thats what your worried about
[03:54] <rhombus> kalatian: i'm not worried about stability
[03:54] <amenado> Radit-> if you man interfaces the different options are listed
[03:54] <tritium> Radit: those settings are in /etc/network/interfaces, but it's better to let network manager do the work for you
[03:54] <rhombus> kalatian: I'm worried about binary compatibility
[03:55] <crazy_elf> does anyone know what the best way to convert a folder full of songs to another format with ffmpeg?
[03:55] <kalatian> rhombus: x86_64 is backwards compatible with x86, so as long as you have the correct libs, everything should work
[03:55] <fk7_se> anybody use adsense??
[03:55] <Radit> amenado: man interfaces? sorry, i don't understand..
[03:55] <rhombus> kalatian: is there an upgrade path documented anywhere?
[03:55] <bazhang> tux97: you can try; if it does not work then you need libgpod 0.6.0 which is a few weeks away in Hardy unless you want to compile it for Gutsy
[03:55] <amenado> Radit-> on a terminal type  man interfaces
[03:55] <kalatian> rhombus: you have to reinstall to use 64bit afaik
[03:55] <bazhang> fk7_se: not reall an ubuntu question thanks
[03:55] <Ububegin> Hi guys, i found another cool software..which can do code folding... Its called *Geany* .. tks anyways
[03:56] <rhombus> kalatian: ****
[03:56] <yn> OK, I see. here's my problem: I setup a diversion for a package. the package has its own diversions when it installs, and its list doesn't include my diversion. It removes all of its "old" diversions (including the one that I setup for it) when it is attempted to be instaled
[03:56] <mike__>  dose  any one know any thing about the shared folder feture in Virtual box ?
[03:56] <mike__> all im trying to do is share my Linux HOME folder with XP
[03:56] <tux97> my gusty sees it but i dont see no songs on it in gtkpod dont see nothing in there how do u set it up in gtkpod bazhang?
[03:56] <kalatian> rhombus: if you're really bored and really good with linux, you *might* be able to upgrade from 32bit to 64bit, but I wouldn't try it :P
[03:56] <bazhang> tux97: I use amarok
[03:56] <kalatian> but I'm no expert by any means
[03:56] <mike__> i wanna know how i can brows a Network share i have Win Xp in virtualbox and C: mapped but ubuntu dont see it
[03:56] <crazy_elf> mike__, http://www.mepislovers.org/forums/archive/index.php/t-5152.html
[03:56] <yn> The file that it's working against is just a symlink. Is there a way to setup a dpkg environment so that it just overwrites the file directly?
[03:56] <mike__> sweet :D
[03:57] <tux97> u use amarok for what bazhang?
[03:57] <yn> without using --force on dpkg? (this is run from a script that's generates on the fly, too hairy to look through)
[03:57] <busan> how to uese windows wine
[03:57] <bazhang> tux97: what was our topic of discussion?
[03:57] <busan> wine app?
[03:57] <crazy_elf> does anyone know how to batch convert a folder full of files?
[03:58] <kalatian> rhombus: tritium: here is what I was talking about: http://lists.us.dell.com/pipermail/linux-poweredge/2005-August/022327.html
[03:58] <Radit> thanks guys..
[03:58] <tux97> gtkpod ipods
[03:58] <bazhang> yn: may as well uninstall the envy and the ati drivers and get them from the restricted drivers manager
[03:58] <Ububegin> woohoo,*geany* even has a terminal built into it.... woo hoo again... Goodbye VIM and GEdit , i reckon...
[03:58] <bazhang> busan what do you want to do
[03:58] <mike__> floola is better
[03:58] <mike__> for ipods
[03:59] <bazhang> floola is marginal
[03:59] <tux97> ok witch one should i use lol
[03:59] <mike__> try em both
[03:59] <rhombus> kalatian: I was sure that I could do up to 64 GB with a 32 bit kernel
[03:59] <bazhang> tux97: may as well try them all including amarok
[03:59] <yn> I've tried the version that's currently in RDM
[03:59] <tritium> kalatian: ah, sure enough
[04:00] <yn> Haven't been able to configure it with my hd
[04:00] <yn> erm
[04:00] <yn> hardware
[04:00] <busan> How to flood IP on my local network??
[04:00] <AgentHeX> i'm running gentoo on a box of mine, but the folks in #gentoo are less than responsive.  i'm having difficulty with a RAID-5 array i've set up with mdadm.  it appears that the chkfs init script tells me that /dev/md0 is an invalid e2fs filesystem, so it tries to recover the journal, but when it tries, it throws a machine check exception and reboots.
[04:00] <bazhang> busan that sounds wrong
[04:00] <yn> whereas the version that came with envy (before this one) worked, but with glitches.
[04:00] <kalatian> !hack
[04:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hack - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:00] <YeaSt> hello
[04:00] <crazy_elf> busan, why would you want to do that...?
[04:01] <tritium> busan: that's offtopic, anyway.
[04:01] <busan> What? must be?
[04:01] <bazhang> AgentHeX: switch to ubuntu then we can talk--- www.ubuntu.com is a good place to start ;]
[04:01] <busan> my conection so slow
[04:01] <teddy> lol... hes in the ubuntu channel but not using ubuntu?
[04:01] <AgentHeX> bazhang: i'd like to, but i want to make sure i won't lose 733GB of data in the process.
[04:01] <Wolf23> bruenig:  hello friend, but sorry for asking this important question, i have a folder VIDEO_TS and there is in it files .VOB how cn i burn thsis to a dvd movie please
[04:01] <tux97> mike__ floola doesn't show up
[04:01] <YeaSt> has anyone tried rhythmbox with mp3 file?
[04:01] <tritium> YeaSt: sure
[04:01] <tritium> !mp3 | YeaSt
[04:01] <ubotu> YeaSt: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:01] <mike__> i belive u need to google it
[04:02] <busan>  oh, sory
[04:02] <AgentHeX> !mdadm
[04:02] <robc4> Yeast, you need to install other software
[04:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mdadm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:02] <crazy_elf> !floola
[04:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about floola - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:02] <rhombus> tritium: http://www.linux.com/feature/119287
[04:02] <tritium> !botabuse
[04:02] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[04:02] <busan> to run windows app. on linux?
[04:02] <mike__> http://www.floola.com/modules/wiwimod/index.php?page=download_linux
[04:02] <bazhang> mike__: google it is not a good answer; if you dont know then you dont know; someone else may ;]
[04:03] <mike__> better :p
[04:03] <bazhang> busan please specify; what windows app
[04:03] <robc4> is the medibuntu repo up for hardy yet?
[04:03] <tritium> robc4: #ubuntu+1 for hardy
[04:03] <busan> my local app, with extension .exe
[04:03] <yn> weird, it just worked, identical commands as before
[04:03] <YeaSt> the question is I have installed ubuntu-restricted-extra, but rhythmbox still could not play the music
[04:04] <busan> likely translator language
[04:04] <robc4> Yeast, you need gstreamer-0.10-ugly
[04:04] <tux97> mike__ got screenshots for the floola?
[04:04] <bazhang> busan what specific app please
[04:04] <mike__> nope
[04:04] <busan> macromedia dreamweaver
[04:04] <YeaSt> I have installed that
[04:05] <tritium> robc4: ubuntu-restricted-extras depends on that
[04:05] <busan> I can't use amaya
[04:05] <teddy> which version? dreamweaver 8 can run in wine
[04:05] <mike__> tux97 i used floola in windows .. im now installing it in ubuntu as well
[04:05] <bazhang> busan your best bet would be to read through the winehq appdb and see how well those work
[04:06] <busan> all windows aplication can run in ubuntu?
[04:06] <bazhang> busan no of course not
[04:06] <Flannel> busan: not all, but wine does a fairly good job.
[04:06] <tux97> i see mike__ i installed it but i dont see nothing in the gui lol
[04:07] <mike__> - LINUX REQUIREMENTS:
[04:07] <mike__> Floola requires gstreamer or xine to be installed in order to playback music and videos.
[04:07] <mike__> x64 users should refer to online troubleshooting documentation in case of issues on startup.
[04:07] <busan> thank you very much:-D
[04:07] <robc4> tritium, I had the same problem as Yeast. I installed ubuntu-restricted-extras and rythmbox still didnt play mp3's
[04:07] <bazhang> tux97: does floola have some docs you can read? best to read them first
[04:07] <robc4> there is one more package you have to install, but I cant remember what it was exactly
[04:08] <tux97> i'm looking i think i d/led the wrong thing i think i got the extras lol
[04:08] <robc4> I wonder if I experienced an anomoly
[04:08] <mike__> tux97 did u do apt-get install floola ?
[04:08] <robc4> I would imagine there would be a massive bug report if all systems acted like mine
[04:08] <vehicle> is there cons using lilo insteat of grub?
[04:09] <tux97> yes where it says for ubuntu users
[04:09] <c_pinky> HY
[04:09] <pestilence> is there a way to disable showing of icons on the desktop?
[04:09] <homosaur> vehicle: it's pretty much whatever you like more, they both work a lil differently
[04:09] <tux97> oops wrong one i did i think it was something esle
[04:09] <tux97> lool
[04:09] <YouKnowMe> How can I make a program I started in a terminal, run in the background so I can close the terminal?
[04:09] <eros> :o)
[04:10] <Cpudan80> YouKnowMe: program &
[04:10] <Cpudan80> As far as I know you have to restart it
[04:10] <crdlb> YouKnowMe: if it's already running, Ctrl+Z then bg
[04:10] <abo> can anyone point me to a good beginner article/tutorial about developping C++ in linux, I'm interested in learning the basics (specially how you used the debugger and make file ) I have prior knowledge in C++ as a language, but always used Visual Studio under windows
[04:10] <Cpudan80> oh
[04:10] <Cpudan80> interesting
[04:10] <ermali86> hello. can anyone tell me please how to make wlassistant to run as root at the startup. i am using kde
[04:10] <crdlb> followed by disown for completeness
[04:10] <tux97> mike__ couldn't find it
[04:10] <Cpudan80> I didn't know that
[04:10] <YouKnowMe> crdlb bg?
[04:10] <crdlb> background
[04:10] <pestilence> YouKnowMe: look into gnu screen
[04:10] <crdlb> fg will return it to the foreground
[04:11] <Pickles> Im trying to install a flash player for ubuntu 7.04 and I can't get it to work, any ideas?
[04:11] <mike__> tux97 well i missed the last bit of the page sudo apt-get install libnotify-bin
[04:11] <mike__> hehe
[04:11] <YouKnowMe> oic, Hmm I'll try that thanks!
[04:11] <pestilence> YouKnowMe: or, start it with an &
[04:11] <robc4> ahh, got it. Yeast, installed w32codecs from Medibuntu
[04:11] <tux97> did that mike__
[04:12] <robc4> *install
[04:12] <robc4> Yeast : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/MP3
[04:12] <Pickles> Should I download a .tar.gz , .rpm , or YUM upgrade for my flash player?
[04:12] <eros> can some i tell me how i can tell if i need to black list a defalt wifi driver
[04:12] <YouKnowMe> Well ctrl+z worked just fine! Thanks! Thats one to remember.
[04:12] <tritium> robc4: that's unrelated
[04:12] <robc4> how so?
[04:12] <HorizonXP> I'm on a campus residence network that assigns IPs by DHCP. Their DNS server dies all the time, so I'd like to use a free one. How would I specify a static DNS server?
[04:12] <Pickles> Any ideas?
[04:13] <robc4> it is in the help file on how to play mp3's in rhythmbox
[04:13] <busan> where im get tutorial kompoZer?
[04:13] <vehicle> is there a diference in using lilo vs grub when my server is dedicated to ubuntu server?
[04:13] <pestilence> HorizonXP: how about just running your own?
[04:13] <HorizonXP> pestilence: errr.... I think the Reznet gods would frown on that
[04:13] <homosaur> this is not a WHAT IS THE BEST DISTRO question, but are there any distos out there that are specifically aimed at developers?
[04:14] <pestilence> HorizonXP: why?
[04:14] <tritium> robc4: I guess you're right.  I've never neded that.  I guess that's why it says "some mp3 files..."
[04:14] <tritium> homosaur: not really.  Each distro needs them.
[04:14] <HorizonXP> pestilence: also, it's my main school laptop, don't want to bog it down; because servers are not allowed on the network
[04:14] <pestilence> HorizonXP: don't run a dhcp server...and don't allow incoming dns requests...
[04:14] <zalker> Ubuntu gnome is the greatest for me
[04:14] <CVD-PR> Hey this happend when i log on everytime: "There was an error starting the Gnome Settings Deamon"
[04:14] <abo> can anyone point me to a good beginner article/tutorial about developping C++ in linux, I'm interested in learning the basics (specially how you used the debugger and make file ) I have prior knowledge in C++ as a language, but always used Visual Studio under windows
[04:14] <mike__> tux97 ive got no idea im still n00b
[04:14] <HorizonXP> pestilence: ok, that makes a bit of sense, but how would I populate it?
[04:14] <pestilence> HorizonXP: servers are not allowed to *listen* on the network, for sure.  what could they care if you have one running for yourself
[04:14] <mike__> i dunno wtf that Cmd did ..
[04:15] <mike__> lol
[04:15] <CVD-PR> ?
[04:15] <pestilence> HorizonXP: the same way all other dns servers populate :-D
[04:15] <HorizonXP> pestilence: hrm...... ok, I'm intrigued. Links?
[04:15] <pestilence> HorizonXP: sudo aptitude install bind9
[04:15] <CVD-PR> ?
[04:15] <pestilence> HorizonXP: then vim /usr/share/doc/bind9/...
[04:16] <pestilence> (don't know of any links other than that)
[04:16] <HorizonXP> pestilence: Oh yeah, I have a 500 MB download limit... is this going to go above that by populating the DNS
[04:16] <bazhang> abo do you have anjuta?
[04:16] <busan> where im got tutorial kmpozer or amaya?
[04:16] <pestilence> HorizonXP: no.
[04:16] <pestilence> HorizonXP: it's not going to lookup names unless you request it
[04:16] <HorizonXP> pestilence: Nice, I like. I'm installing now.
[04:17] <HorizonXP> pestilence: Except that I still need to rely on the campus DNS server to let me download this..... vicious circle! lol
[04:17] <vehicle> i just installed ubuntu server and now i want to install samba can anyone give me any help, i know its on the cd, i just didnt install it with the load
[04:17] <artfullylost> So, would Kubuntu or Ubuntu be a better bet for a newcomer?
[04:17] <pestilence> HorizonXP: haha, but that's a catch in any potential solution
[04:17] <CVD-PR> Hey this happend when i log on everytime: "There was an error starting the Gnome Settings Deamon"
[04:17] <CVD-PR> ?
[04:18] <bazhang> artfullylost: matter of taste really check out screenshots on their homepages or via distrowatch.com
[04:18] <HorizonXP> pestilence: touché, I'm just lamenting.
[04:18] <abo> bazhang, I've seen it before, I don't have it installed at the moment, but I had the impression that Anjuta generates the Makefile for you,.. I don't want that, I'd like to learn the basics behind.. and then once I'm comfortable with it, I would start using Anjuta / Kdevelop or Eclipse/CDT
[04:18] <artfullylost> I mean, it's like a 5 minute operation to change them from one to the other anyway, right, bazhang?
[04:19] <robc4> Is there any way to control CPU fan speed on AMD CPU's? I am running 64 bit Ubuntu
[04:19] <bazhang> artfullylost: not quite that quick to download the entire desktop suite unless you have FiOS or something fast like that but fairly quick yeah
[04:19] <Nasra> Is there program to access my pc from anywhere within Ubuntu?
[04:20] <tritium> Nasra: ssh, for one
[04:20] <Nasra> ssh
[04:21] <Flannel> Nasra: yeah, it allows you to login via terminal from an arbitrary computer.  There are others for graphical things as well (and some of them traverse through ssh)
[04:21] <amenado> Nasra-> http is a form of access...is that what you meant?
[04:21] <Nasra> ok...that is good news
[04:21] <Nasra> yes
[04:21] <Nasra> let's say if I want to access my computer from another country or so...
[04:22] <HorizonXP> pestilence: so I'm looking at the documenation, and it seems out of the box, this bind9 will provide a "caching" schema
[04:22] <pestilence> HorizonXP: yea
[04:22] <Nasra> I got 3 good answers thanks guys...
[04:22] <amenado> Nasra-> you have to be clear with what you meant by access.. to interact or just knowing your pc is active?
[04:22] <pestilence> which actually reduces your footprint
[04:22] <HorizonXP> pestilence: how do I prevent incoming requests? Or do I not really have to worry, since my IP address really isn't broadcast...
[04:22] <YeaSt> amarok is so good, it plays my mp3 just after I installed it
[04:22] <Nasra> amenado
[04:22] <pestilence> HorizonXP: well, you should have a firewall, right?
[04:23] <HorizonXP> pestilence: Lol....
[04:23] <Nasra> to have access to my pc and work from faraway checking files emails, etc....
[04:23] <HorizonXP> pestilence: Firestarter? I hated that thing.... is there a better one?
[04:23] <ermali86> hello. can anyone tell me please how to make wlassistant to run as root at the startup. i am using kde
[04:23] <talcite> hey guys... does anyone know what's going on here? I put a link like www.google.ca into pidgin, and when I click on it... swiftweasel brings me to www.%u.com
[04:24] <talcite> it doesn't matter which link I put into pidgin, It always brings me to www.%u.com
[04:24] <Lleumas> Anyone have any clue as to how to get my video thumbnails back? I'm not sure, I installed xine avi, but still not luck.
[04:24] <busan> how to install kde dekstop from ubuntu command trow console
[04:24] <pestilence> HorizonXP: i don't know what the best gui firewall is these days.  shorewall is a good firewall, but it can be a pain to configure if you don't know what you are doing
[04:24] <bazhang> ermali86: what do you mean run as root; you want it to connect at startup or other
[04:24] <talcite> and ontop of that, I've seen it happen from other programs as well, not just piding
[04:24] <talcite> pidgin*
[04:24] <amenado> Nasra-> then you must have a server running on your pc..to service the type of access you need
[04:24] <HorizonXP> pestilence: wait, I'm on Hardy, and ufw is the new feature. Time to test it!
[04:24] <ChameleonDave> Hey, does anyone use Katapult?
[04:24] <bazhang> busan kubuntu-desktop is the package name
[04:25] <jrib> talcite: what does system -> preferences -> preferred applications have as your Web Browser *exactly*?
[04:25] <bazhang> ChameleonDave: do you have an issue with it?
[04:25] <busan> to change my gnome desktop to kubuntu?
[04:25] <Nasra> amenado....it's not a biggy thing ....it's just wanna interact with my pc from faraway....
[04:25] <bazhang> busan aye
[04:25] <tritium> busan: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:26] <amenado> Nasra biggy or smally, same difference, you have to have a server running on your pc to service the type of access
[04:26] <talcite> jrib: argh! I JUST went to check that because it came to me as well lol
[04:26] <tritium> busan: then, you'll have both gnome and kde desktops to choose from
[04:26] <ermali86> bazhang: yes i want it to connect at startup
[04:26] <talcite> i have swiftweasel %u
[04:26] <Nasra> amenado ... I am new to linux....did not know it was good...just exploring from what I used to do in windows.....
[04:26] <busan> nice
[04:26] <jrib> talcite: see anything in common?  change %u to %s
[04:26] <talcite> jrib: heh. Thanks
[04:26] <busan> thanks
[04:27] <amenado> Nasra-> oh ubuntu can do a few more without costing you much..
[04:27] <talcite> ahh there we go
[04:27] <bazhang> ermali86: any reason not to use network-manager to do that?
[04:27] <talcite> all good. Thank you
[04:27] <ChameleonDave> Bazhang, yes, I used to use it just fine, but then I lost my /home/david partition, and when I created a new one, Katapult wasn't working.  I don't see why any user settings should be involved.  It's a program that should work for all users out of the box.
[04:28] <ermali86> bazhang: network manager keeps getting me problems and doesnt recognize my wireless card so i am bored with it
[04:28] <sk8ball> where can i adjust/view what the number of colors are that is being used for X... like 16bit, 32bit, etc...
[04:28] <Nasra> amenado...in windows spending to much money.....and stilll problem.....I've been forced to learn linux so I can run PBX
[04:28] <bazhang> ChameleonDave: you might want to check into #kubuntu from time to time as the maintainer of Katapult is sometimes on irc
[04:28] <HorizonXP> pestilence: what port am I blocking for DNS packets?
[04:29] <amenado> Nasra-> are you a telephony type of person?
[04:29] <ntorido> Is there a flash plugin for gimp ?
[04:29] <Nasra> yes man
[04:29] <tritium> sk8ball: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:29] <bazhang> ntorido: for what end?
[04:29] <sk8ball> tritium, so ubuntu has no gui solution ... just stuck with editing the config file?
[04:29] <Nasra> amenado....have to run the telephony under linux and chose Ubuntu
[04:29] <amenado> Nasra-> you'd have your pbx this side or at the far end?
[04:29] <jester7> are there a lot of issues with flash and java on the amd64 version of ubuntu?
[04:30] <pestilence> HorizonXP: 53
[04:30] <tritium> sk8ball: not specifically for changing the color depth, no
[04:30] <ChameleonDave> I'm not getting any response in #kubuntu
[04:30] <ce_chinnese> surabaya
[04:30] <Nasra> amenado.....you talking big time....(my language) correct
[04:30] <bazhang> jester7: flash seems to be an issue for some
[04:30] <tritium> sk8ball: it's too rare a task to bother, probably
[04:30] <leechy9> hey can any1 help me with the startup splash screen?
[04:30] <HorizonXP> pestilence: thanks!
[04:30] <bazhang> ChameleonDave: well then just be patient
[04:30] <Concretesledge> hello
[04:31] <pestilence> HorizonXP: np
[04:31] <sk8ball> thats what pisses me off about linux, and is exactly what is preventing widespread adoption ... too much is dependant about manual editing of config files .... i like to be able to edit them manually but i like to have access to a gui frontend as welll... really increases productivity
[04:31] <Concretesledge> im trying to install ubuntu, i have 3 IDE drives, hda hdb hdc
[04:31] <Nasra> amenado: I have not installed it yet ...cause have to learn how to run Ubuntu first
[04:31] <Zoris> leechy9: go into add/remove and install "spash screen"
[04:31] <amenado> Nasra the reason i asked, because those card that interface with local telco are not compatible in all countries, unless it is homolugated
[04:31] <bazhang> sk8ball: offtopic here thanks
[04:31] <Concretesledge> i want ALL 3 to be used for the installation, someone said somethinga bout LVM But i dont understand
[04:31] <leechy9> i can disable it at startup by deleting "ro quiet splash"
[04:31] <tritium> sk8ball: you're the first person I've seen ask to change the color depth in years
[04:31] <Zoris> splash screen*
[04:31] <ChameleonDave> Bazhang: Instead of being patient here, I'll just use the forums instead.  They are for non-instant help.
[04:31] <ntorido> So actually whats the best software  for developing flash in ubuntu?
[04:32] <bazhang> ChameleonDave: your choice--the maintainer will give you an instant answer when he is around
[04:32] <Nasra> amenado: are you familiar with pbx?
[04:32] <jester7> bazhang: ahh, so it's not just "broken"  it does work for some people
[04:32] <leechy9> no, its the bar at startup, i cant boot unless i always remove   ro quiet splash in the command line at the beginning
[04:32] <jester7> thats good to know
[04:32] <ChameleonDave> sk8ball: what annoys me is lack of connection between GUI and text files.
[04:32] <amenado> sk8ball-> you are refering to single machines, try to use gui if you have to support 200 user pc at a time
[04:32] <bazhang> !ot
[04:32] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[04:33] <pestilence> Concretesledge: you can have a logical volume which crosses multiple physical volumes
[04:33] <rhombus> okay, so I need to build a new kernel -- what's the name of the kernel source package in Ubuntu?
[04:33] <ChameleonDave> sk8ball: Too many GUIs give you no info whatsoever about what text files they are editing behind the scenes.
[04:33] <sk8ball> chameleon, exactly all these system setup/config should be gui accessible
[04:33] <amenado> Nasra-> somewhat..
[04:33] <jrib> !kernel > rhombus (read the private message from ubotu)
[04:33] <pestilence> Concretesledge: then you can create a single partition on that logical volume, if you want
[04:33] <pestilence> Concretesledge: (or any number of partitions)
[04:33] <sk8ball> chameleon,
[04:33] <tritium> sk8ball: please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:33] <calc> sk8ball: fwiw the new version of Xorg will soon autodetect everything
[04:33] <Concretesledge> pestilence: , so make them all logical?
[04:33] <sk8ball> calc, when is it due out?
[04:33] <calc> sk8ball: so xorg.conf will be empty (more or less)
[04:34] <ChameleonDave> sk8ball: if only they told you what they were doing (e.g. "now modifying /etc/fstab") it would be much easier to learn how to edit the text files yourself
[04:34] <pestilence> Concretesledge: no.  you use LVM, and add all the hard drives to a volume group
[04:34] <leechy9> can any1 help with with fixing a bug with the splash screen on startup
[04:34] <Nasra> amenado: type of communication ......
[04:34] <calc> sk8ball: no gui, it will just autodetect all settings
[04:34] <amenado> Nasra yes, am familiar
[04:34] <Concretesledge> pestilence: , i didnt see LVM anywhere in the ubuntu install im on live right now
[04:34] <sk8ball> tritium, is there a way to su to root under ubuntu?
[04:34] <pestilence> Concretesledge: this is completely different than "logical partitions"
[04:34] <calc> sk8ball: sudo su -
[04:34] <Nasra> amenado: okay.....
[04:34] <tritium> sk8ball: the root account is disabled by default.  use "sudo -i" instead
[04:34] <calc> sk8ball: root password is disabled so you can't do a direct su
[04:34] <pestilence> Concretesledge: which version?  i'm not sure if they even had it in gutsy
[04:34] <tronz> fgsjdkf
[04:34] <Concretesledge> 7.10
[04:35] <bazhang> tronz do you have a question?
[04:35] <pestilence> Concretesledge: don' t know
[04:35] <Concretesledge> pestilence: 7.10
[04:35] <Concretesledge> :(
[04:35] <Nasra> amenado: just been running linux like a week or so with one reinstall...
[04:35] <HorizonXP> pestilence: I'm editing named.conf.options to include the DNS servers of my rez network; but what happens when I move to another network, like my campus wireless, or when I go to my parents? Do I need to update this file?
[04:35] <sk8ball> well really i am trying to run ettercap from the menu "shortcut" that add/remove gave me when i installed it but its not seeing eth0 and i am guessing it is a permissions thing
[04:35] <amenado> Nasra-> do a few more re-install to get yourself familiarize with the nuances..
[04:35] <tronz> heh ya but I typed in the wrong window ... know anything about witing serail app in C?
[04:35] <kindofabuzz_> i just realized i'm only getting 1500KB/s over the internal network, but my connection says 24Mb/s, what's up with that?
[04:35] <Concretesledge> pestilence:  there where no options in the partition managers, where would it be?
[04:36] <sk8ball> is there a way to edit the params used in the shortcuts in the applications menu
[04:36] <sk8ball> ?
[04:36] <calc> sk8ball: ettercap might have to be run as root
[04:36] <calc> sk8ball: since it is a packet sniffer
[04:36] <sk8ball> calc, yah i think so
[04:36] <tronz> I wanna ask in ##C but I have to register my nick and I can't get that to work properly
[04:36] <Concretesledge> pestilence: maybe i can use UBCD, to format them or something AS one large partition?
[04:36] <pestilence> HorizonXP: you shouldn't need a DNS server to run a DNS server.  i think it will still resolve names using the root servers
[04:36] <sk8ball> calc, so will sudo resolve that or ?
[04:36] <Nasra> amenado: I find that when I first started running Ubuntu was running smoothly  now I feel is kind of slow.....why is that?
[04:36] <tcpdumpgod> Hey guys :)
[04:36] <tcpdumpgod> and gals :D
[04:36] <pestilence> HorizonXP: i'm not really sure.
[04:37] <calc> sk8ball: if you run sudo (ettercap's binary name) yea i think so
[04:37] <kindofabuzz_> Nasra: alot more stuff running?
[04:37] <amenado> Nasra-> i dont know what you consider slow, its all relative..
[04:37] <pestilence> Concretesledge: no.  you have to use LVM
[04:37] <pestilence> Concretesledge: i would check to see if lvm made it  into gutsy
[04:37] <sk8ball> there really should be an option in the add/remove dialog to set it up so a program is sudo'd as root
[04:37] <calc> sk8ball: looks like the version in hardy is already fixed to run as root
[04:37] <pestilence> i am guessing it didnt
[04:37] <ntorido> Does anyone know any software for developing flash in ubuntu ?
[04:38] <Jordan_U> Nasra, Did you use a program like envy to install proprietary graphics drivers?
[04:38] <HorizonXP> pestilence: Well, we'll see what happens. If my internet doesn't work/is slow tomorrow, I'll know why. :-)
[04:38] <HorizonXP> pestilence: Thanks again, I think this is going to help a lot!
[04:38] <Nasra> amenado / Kindofabuzz Is it because I am using the terminal a little bit more since I am installing programs here and there....is that what it's?
[04:38] <Concretesledge> !google lvm
[04:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about google lvm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:38] <calc> sk8ball: things generally shouldn't run as root unless they need to ettercap not running as root was a bug which was fixed in the last upload
[04:38] <tritium> Concretesledge: please don't abuse the bot.  Investigate in private.
[04:38] <sk8ball> calc, is there a way to edit the command the shortcuts in the applications menu are using?
[04:38] <Concretesledge> pestilence:  what exactly is LVM
[04:38] <pestilence> HorizonXP: it could be that the "caching" mode just queries the dns server you specified, and may not help you a lot
[04:39] <Jordan_U> Nasra, If so, they would have broken with any subsequent kernel upgrades ( unlike installing through the provided restricted manager ) and lack of GPU acceleration can certainly slow things down
[04:39] <madman5402> hey can any one tell me how to install azureus
[04:39] <sk8ball> calc, or someway to fix my menu shortcut for it
[04:39] <amenado> Nasra-> nope, its just a perception, put a timer and measure so you can really measure  the effectiveness
[04:39] <calc> sk8ball: yea, edit them in /usr/share/applications or copy and override them
[04:39] <pestilence> HorizonXP: you may have to put it into a different mode to have it resolve on its own (without using the campus servers as a crutch)
[04:39] <tronz> how do I register my nick ?? I read online to type /msg nickserv register <pass> but that doesn't seem to werk
[04:39] <Nasra> Jordan_U ...don't think so....just visiting the terminal more often thats all....
[04:39] <tritium> sk8ball: or install alacarte, and use that gui tool
[04:39] <calc> sk8ball: if you edit them directly in /usr/share/applications they will get overwritten at upgrade time
[04:39] <pestilence> Concretesledge: Logical Volume Manager
[04:39] <jrib> sk8ball: just right click on the ubuntu icon and "edit menu"
[04:40] <calc> sk8ball: eg:
[04:40] <calc> -Exec=/usr/sbin/ettercap --gtk
[04:40] <calc> +Exec=gksu "/usr/sbin/ettercap --gtk"
[04:40] <calc> that was what they did to fix ettercap
[04:40] <amenado> Nasra-> you may be a bit slower now as you have to still look around for the exact command
[04:40] <Concretesledge> pestilence:  could you please tell me how i could find LVM on the ubuntu install disc, while im installing im on a live right now
[04:40] <Nasra> amenado on day 1....installed a few programs and came here and ask questions....and they told me should do a reinstall because alot of programs are not supported any more had to d0 somthing about it
[04:40] <Concretesledge> pestilence:  could i install and alt-tab to talk in here?
[04:41] <cellofellow> Concretesledge: use the Alternate (text) install CD.
[04:41] <pestilence> Concretesledge: i don't think gutsy's live cd has it.  and i kind of doubt that hardy has it either
[04:41] <pestilence> Concretesledge: from google:  http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-install-ubuntu-over-lvm-filesystem
[04:41] <tritium> sk8ball: alacarte is installed by default
[04:41] <madman5402> so dose any know any thing about azureus
[04:42] <Nasra> amenado: I do like linux....had I known this before .....would have been a good swimer by now.....
[04:42] <pestilence> Concretesledge: but with that, i'd say good luck...i have to go to bed.
[04:42] <bazhang> madman5402: yes
[04:42] <cellofellow> madman5402: a small amount
[04:42] <Nasra> amenado: things to learn more ofter is all these commands....and how to relate works being done like I used to in windows.....oh loll....
[04:43] <Concretesledge> haha
[04:43] <sergio41> hola
[04:43] <Concretesledge> im not doing that.
[04:43] <Concretesledge> later
[04:43] <pppoe_dude> hi which program should I use to capture audio/video from a webcam/mic?
[04:44] <Nasra> amenado: one site I frequent alot is ----> www.linuxbasics.org is just beautiful....
 i need to know how to install azureus
[04:44] <cellofellow> madman5402: sudo aptitude install azureus
[04:44] <bazhang> madman5402: sudo apt-get installl packagename
[04:45] <cellofellow> madman5402: also there is a newer version available on GetDeb.net
[04:47] <Jordan_U> pppoe_dude, cheeze is a very simple program, I am sure there is something better but it works
[04:47] <pppoe_dude> Jordan_U, does it take audio too? where does it save files
[04:47] <Nasra> Jordan_U
[04:47] <zalker> vlc player can play audio
[04:48] <pppoe_dude> hmm yes vlc can record stuff too
[04:48] <Jordan_U> pppoe_dude, It takes audio with video only ( afik ), probably not what you want, just throwing it out there
[04:48] <Zoris> is configuring compiz different in 8.04? Because I can't seem to get it to work the same way as in 7.10
[04:48] <cellofellow> pppoe_dude: for audio-only, use audacity.
[04:49] <pppoe_dude> i want audio/video
[04:49] <Jordan_U> !hardy | Zambezi
[04:49] <ubotu> Zambezi: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[04:49] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 please Zoris
 hey thanks man
[04:49] <bazhang> no worries ;]
[04:49] <Zoris> okay, thanks
[04:49] <rayman> hey guys im horrible at irc how can i get to a server i want
[04:49] <rayman> i need to get to irc.eqemulator.net
[04:49] <rayman> what commands shall i use =)
[04:49] <Starnestommy> rayman: /server new.server
[04:50] <rayman> thanks chief
[04:50] <kindofabuzz_> if my NM says 24Mb/s and i'm transfering a file from the server to my clint i should be getting more than 1.5Mb/s right?
[04:50] <kindofabuzz_> client*
[04:50] <turbough> hello everybody
[04:50] <cellofellow> kindofabuzz_: is the first one megabytes or megabits?
[04:51] <cellofellow> kindofabuzz_: by NM you mean NetworkManager?
[04:51] <kindofabuzz_> Mb
[04:51] <kindofabuzz_> cellofellow: yes
[04:51] <abel> test...
[04:51] <bazhang> success!
[04:51] <abel> hi...
[04:51] <cellofellow> kindofabuzz_: the second number, 1.5MBps, sounds right in the ballpark of 24Mbps.

[04:51] <cellofellow> kindofabuzz_: capital B is Bytes, lower b is bits.
[04:52] <bazhang> yes madman5402
[04:52] <kindofabuzz_> what is MiB?
 so where do i go after it is done installing
[04:52] <cellofellow> kindofabuzz_: Megabytes.
[04:52] <abel> can u help me?
[04:52] <JohnMM> kindofabuzz_, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mebibyte
[04:52] <hischild> abel, yes we probably can. What is the problem?
[04:52] <JohnMM> cellofellow, no a MiB is different
[04:52] <cyntek> I installed ffmpeg by using add/remove app, I recieve an error: I/O error occured. when converting avi to vcd. has anyone run into this problem.?
[04:52] <bazhang> abel only if you ask a specific question
[04:53] <kindofabuzz_> so 1.5MiB is close to 24Mb?
[04:53] <abel> i can't play my mp3 file..
[04:53] <cellofellow> JohnMM: what's a MiB then?
[04:53] <hischild> abel, do you get an error?
[04:53] <bazhang> madman5402: go? to launch azureues you mean? should we in the applications folder or you can type azureus in the alt f2 window
[04:53] <JohnMM> cellofellow, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mebibyte
[04:53] <abel> yes...
[04:54] <hischild> abel, when you try and play an mp3 file, it will most likely give you a popup box asking you if you would like to install a package. Do you see this screen?
[04:54] <kindofabuzz_> see i'm using bmon to check network speed, it's showing 1,5MiB
[04:54] <bazhang> abel install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[04:54] <cyntek> I installed ffmpeg by using add/remove app, I recieve an error: I/O error occured. when converting avi to vcd. has anyone run into this problem.?
[04:54] <abel> the message is "the file isn't support" some thing likes that...

[04:54] <Bacta> how can I get a direct path name using find?
[04:54] <kindofabuzz_> so MiB = MB?
[04:55] <JohnMM> a MiB is essentially a MB, it's just a more accurate way of representing a MB
[04:55] <JohnMM> essentially
[04:55] <hischild> abel, alright. Did you see the message from bazhang saying that you should install ubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[04:55] <cellofellow> JohnMM: looks like a MiB is what a Megabyte is Supposed to be.
 like what do i do to open azureus
[04:55] <cellofellow> ok
[04:55] <JohnMM> yeah, it is pretty much, just a bit more accurate
[04:55] <cabrioleur> Bacta find --whatever whatever | grep name
[04:55] <astro76> kindofabuzz_: MiB was created to solve the problems that technically the SI definition of Mega is 1000, and also that hard drive manufacturers really like the 1000 definition, whereas in computers Mega usually meant 1024
[04:55] <kindofabuzz_> ok so, is 1.5Mib good for a 24Mb connection?
[04:55] <abel> where can i get the source...?
[04:55] <bazhang> madman5402: alt f2 type azureus in the window
[04:55] <cellofellow> kindofabuzz_: 1.5MiB/s is 1/8 the Mb/s speed.
[04:55] <JohnMM> yep Asfaloth
[04:55] <Bacta> no no
[04:55] <kindofabuzz_> MiB i mean
[04:55] <Bacta> i type find xjc
[04:56] <JohnMM> * astro76
[04:56] <Bacta> and i get bin/xjc
[04:56] <Bacta> i want the direct path to xjc
[04:56] <kindofabuzz_> i'm confused lol
[04:56] <cellofellow> kindofabuzz_: 1.5MiB/s is 12Mb/s.
[04:56] <hischild> abel, you don't need the source for that. If you open up a terminal, you can type the following in to install it:     sudo aptitude install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[04:56] <abel> for the information... i'm using ubuntu 5
[04:56] <kindofabuzz_> ok, so not to good then
[04:56] <cellofellow> kindofabuzz_: so, it's using half the speed.
[04:56] <hischild> cellofellow, don't forget overhead ont hat
[04:56] <Pickles> Im having a hard time updating my flash player for FireFox and Opera, anyone have a few min. they can spare? PM me.
[04:56] <RioMerc> Hello #Ubuntu! I have a question about printer drivers. I have a Canon Pixma MP170, which is not listed on the printers drivers menu of Ubuntu. I've tried the gutenprint drivers to no success, and before going ahead with more drivers I wanted to search for solutions. So far, I've found an excessivley long tutorial that seems to have a 40% userbase who can testify it's worked for MP170s. I want to know if anyone can suggest any dr
[04:56] <RioMerc> ivers to use, or to break it to me and just admit there's no way that I'm going to ever print anything in ubuntu short of buying a new printer.
[04:56] <RioMerc> Whoa, that was long
[04:56] <kindofabuzz_> and why is it only 24Mb, when my card and router can do 54Mb?
 awesome
[04:56] <cellofellow> hischild: 12Mbps on a 24Mbps connection doesn't take in overhead?
[04:56] <bazhang> abel that is no longer supported; upgrade to something more recent
[04:57] <hischild> abel, then it would be better to upgrade most likely. That one is no longer officially supported.
[04:57] <cellofellow> kindofabuzz_: signal quality/strength.
[04:57] <kindofabuzz_> yeah i don't have the best signal
[04:57] <hischild> cellofellow, the connection itself would probably carry some overhead
[04:57] <abel> okey....
[04:57] <kindofabuzz_> NM shows 43%
[04:57] <abel> thanks for all guys....
[04:57] <cellofellow> kindofabuzz_: mine will drop to 5Mb/s when I'm at a distance.
[04:57] <bazhang> aha
[04:57] <cellofellow> kindofabuzz_: that sounds right.
[04:57] <kindofabuzz_> so i guess it's ok then, i was freaking out
[04:57] <RioMerc> Hmm
[04:58] <RioMerc> Isn't MiB completley unrelated to Mbs?
[04:58] <RioMerc> Must wiki this.
[04:58] <kindofabuzz_> except why isn't it supporting 54Mb? like it should be?
[04:58] <RioMerc> And there goes all my reliability in information :|
[04:58] <Pickles> How do you update a flash player if its .tar.gz and extracted to my desktop?
[04:58] <Pickles> Anyone got any ideas
[04:58] <Pickles> ?
[04:58] <cabron> Hello... I'm trying to unpack a .rar file.  When I run sudo apt-get for unrar, though, I get the following error:
[04:58] <cabron> "Package unrar is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[04:58] <cabron> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[04:58] <cellofellow> kindofabuzz_: I use the netspeed GNOME panel plugin to view speeds. Can be set to both B and b.
[04:58] <cabron> is only available from another source
[04:58] <cabron> E: Package unrar has no installation candidate"
[04:58] <FloodBot2> cabron: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
 o hwy also how do you open up you firewall for azureus
[04:58] <turbough> I am trying to remotely install ubuntu over a fedora core 7 system which came on a dedicated server. i used the swap space to make a chroot environment using the debootstrap util but when i chroot to it none of the hard drives are registered in the /dev directory
[04:58] <rayman> star you still there?
[04:58] <kindofabuzz_> cellofellow: yeah i was using bmon
[04:59] <vehicle> does ubuntu server come with a gui?
[04:59] <RioMerc> Pickles: Is it source? You may have to compile it yourself or find a autoinstall script
[04:59] <kindofabuzz_> netsped in the repos?
[04:59] <cellofellow> RioMerc: not completely unrelated. MB is in bytes, which are 8 bits.
[04:59] <kindofabuzz_> netspeed
[04:59] <cellofellow> kindofabuzz_: yup
[04:59] <bazhang> madman5402: you need to port forward; best to log into your router and set it there
[04:59] <RioMerc> And MiB?
[04:59] <Starnestommy> rayman: if you're referring to me, yes
[04:59] <rayman> im trying to get to irc.eqemulator.net guys...but with no luck... how should i type it in ?
[04:59] <GEIS> how do i partition the rest of sda freespace to sdb so that i combines and form partition / ?
[04:59] <cellofellow> RioMerc: a MiB is 1024^2 bytes.
[04:59] <hischild> turbough, you have to mount the /dev in the chroot env
[04:59] <rayman> yes star i am sorry for the confusion
[04:59] <Pickles> RioMerc: any idea how to compile it myself >_<?
[04:59] <astro76> RioMerc: MiB = MB, MiB hasn't really been completely accepted
 ok will do thanks
[04:59] <cabron> Hi... I need some help unpacking a .rar file.
[04:59] <RioMerc> astro76: Explains why I have no concept in it.
[05:00] <astro76> RioMerc: indeed ;)
[05:00] <RioMerc> Pickles: I have little to no idea
[05:00] <cellofellow> RioMerc: MiB is used sometimes to difference from the tendency for companies to label Megabytes as 1000^2 bytes.
[05:00] <Svenstaro> hey everyone, can I somehow tell ubuntu NOT to write grub into my MBR when installing?
[05:00] <Svenstaro> cabron, sure wahts up?
[05:00] <abel> lets get a lunch guys...
[05:00] <kindofabuzz_> cabron: right click and hit extract here =)
[05:00] <astro76> Svenstaro: with the alternate install cd you can
[05:00] <astro76> not sure with desktop cd
[05:00] <turbough> hischild: i have never mounted a /dev before i thought they were special files stored on a regular filesystem
[05:00] <cabron> Sven - I tried to install unrar, but I get an error when doing so...
[05:00] <RioMerc> Pickles: Try googling for tutorials on packaging, or checking the man inside the tar.gz if there's one
[05:00] <Svenstaro> astro76, thanks for getting this positive, I supposed I could with the alternate, ill go ahead installing it
[05:01] <busan> asalamungalaikum
[05:01] <RioMerc> or try waiting for someone more skilled than me to answer
[05:01] <Svenstaro> cabron, whats the error?
[05:01] <kindofabuzz_> cellofellow: does netspeed not create a menu item? no biggie just wondering
[05:01] <Svenstaro> cabron, it might not be related to the package at all
[05:01] <RioMerc> I'd like to repaste my question for another potshot attempt, but I'm worried about flooding rules. It's an incredibly long question :P
[05:01] <cabron> If I try to use the default "extract" tool it says "archive type not supported"
[05:01] <cellofellow> kindofabuzz_: it creates an item in the "Add item..." dialog for the panel.
 Hello #Ubuntu! I have a question about printer drivers. I have a Canon Pixma MP170, which is not listed on the printers drivers menu of Ubuntu. I've tried the gutenprint drivers to no success, and before going ahead with more drivers I wanted to search for solutions. So far, I've found an excessivley long tutorial that seems to have a 40% userbase who can testify it's worked for MP170s. I want to know if anyone can sugg
[05:02] <RioMerc> est any dr
 ivers to use, or to break it to me and just admit there's no way that I'm going to ever print anything in ubuntu short of buying a new printer.
[05:02] <cellofellow> kindofabuzz_: "Add to Panel" rather.
[05:02] <vehicle> question, if i install ubuntu server, then run 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop' is that completley pointless?
[05:02] <Svenstaro> cabron, we're talking the gnome version of the extract tool? ore the kde one?
[05:02] <RioMerc> Heh
[05:02] <kindofabuzz_> cellofellow: netspeed in term don't work
[05:02] <kindofabuzz_> oh ok
[05:02] <hischild> turbough, that is correct. If you ever installed gentoo you'll also have to mount the /dev into your chroot env. mount -o bind /dev /chrootenvdevdir
[05:02] <cabron> Ummm.... I'm pretty new.  How do I tell which one I have?
[05:02] <Svenstaro> cabron, at any rate, you might also have to install "rar"
[05:02] <hischild> turbough, in short: the /dev folder itself is ok. The chroot dir just doesn't see it, unless you mount it.
[05:02] <Svenstaro> cabron, did you use ubuntu or kubuntu?
[05:02] <kindofabuzz_> cellofellow: network monitor?
[05:02] <kindofabuzz_> i have 2
[05:02] <xb3rt> RioMerc: I've got a Canon IP90, having the same problem
[05:03] <astro76> cabron: you are using the gnome version, and yes it's because you need to install unrar, which you are currently having problems doing
[05:03] <cabron> Oh, okay.  How do I go about that?  I have Ubuntu 7.10
[05:03] <turbough> hischild: so i have to do that before i chroot into the new environment?
[05:03] <xb3rt> iP90
[05:03] <RioMerc> Heh
[05:03] <hischild> turbough, yes.
[05:03] <cellofellow> kindofabuzz_: there's two of them. One, when selected, says it's netspeed.
[05:03] <RioMerc> xb3rt: The woes of us poor Unsupported canon-ers
[05:03] <turbough> hischild: thank you :)
[05:03] <Svenstaro> cabron, and to make it easier to read for me what you write in this populated channel, please put my name in front of your message, it will be highlighted for me as it does for you
[05:03] <xb3rt> RioMerc: Should we start a class-act on linux
[05:03] <kindofabuzz_> cellofellow: got it
[05:03] <Svenstaro> cabron, in a terminal type "sudo apt-get install rar unrar" without quotes
[05:04] <hischild> turbough, according to what i'm reading from the gentoo guide you also should mount the /proc folder
[05:04] <M4rotku> I'm having a problem with my hardware configurations, can anyone help?
[05:04] <Svenstaro> M4rotku, whats the matteR?
[05:04] <cellofellow> cabron:  you need Multiverse enabled. ;)
[05:04] <RioMerc> xb3rt: Don't feel too bad, I've also got an ATI card, Dual screens and both of them are 17' that are only VGA, they needs VGA-DVI converters to work with this card. I'm about the most unsupported person around
[05:04] <Svenstaro> cellofellow, is it not enabled by default?
[05:04] <turbough> hischild: yeah. i mounted the proc dir from inside the chroot environment
[05:04] <kindofabuzz_> so does ubuntu not support 54Mb network speed?
[05:04] <M4rotku> Svenstaro: I installed an update from the update manager and it wrote over the configurations for my speakers and for my wireless card
 "Package rar is not available, but is referred to by another package..."
[05:04] <xb3rt> RioMerc: how does it feel? :-)
[05:05] <cellofellow> Svenstaro: not that I know of.
[05:05] <ibback> m4rotku. How may i help. Pls be more specific?
[05:05] <cellofellow> kindofabuzz_: works for me. What wifi card?
[05:05] <gauze_> kindofabuzz_: sure it does
[05:05] <cabrioleur> kindofabuzz_, it does.
[05:05] <RioMerc> ATI Card + MP170 (Canon) printer + Crappy Screens = One day of getting everything to be recognised properly, before you can actually do serious modification
[05:05] <hischild> turbough, ok.
[05:05] <Svenstaro> cabron, as cellofellow mentioned, you need to open synaptic "sudo synaptic" and activate all repositories in the options
[05:05] <hischild> turbough, good luck on the reinstall :-)
 I'm pretty sure that I have multiverse enabled, but still no go...
[05:05] <RioMerc> xb3rt: It feels odd. It's frustrating to be unsupported, but it's fun to hunt like crazy for solutions
[05:05] <kindofabuzz_> linksys wmp54gs with a linksys wrt54gs w/ dd-wrt
[05:05] <busan> how to install new font on linux
[05:05] <Svenstaro> cabron, then update the packages "sudo apt-get update" and try again to install it
[05:05] <cellofellow> cabron: no, hold that thought, the command is wrong.
[05:05] <M4rotku> ibback:  I think i overwrote my configuration files for my sound card and wireless card
[05:06] <xb3rt> RioMerc: at least you'll learn from the experience
[05:06] <astro76> !fonts | busan
[05:06] <vehicle> doesn anyone here know anything about ubuntu server??
[05:06] <kindofabuzz_> wireless
[05:06] <ubotu> busan: Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[05:06] <hischild> vehicle, if you ask the question, perhaps we do
[05:06] <Svenstaro> M4rotku, so you want your old config back i assume?
[05:06] <kindofabuzz_> i guess i'm only getting 24Mb/s cause of my signal
[05:06] <RioMerc> xb3rt: Yeah, Nvidia, 19' Single screen and a shitty Epson for me from now on
[05:06] <turbough> hischild: thanks. i'm looking forward to having ubuntu!
[05:06] <M4rotku> Svenstaro: yes, that is what i'm looking for
[05:06] <kindofabuzz_> then i only get half of that! lol
[05:06] <tcpdumpgod> good turbough
[05:06] <cellofellow> cabron: `gksudo software-properties-gtk` is the command.
[05:06] <Svenstaro> M4rotku, was it done through apt-get?
[05:06] <vehicle> if i install ubuntu-desktop on top of server is that completley pointless?
[05:07] <xb3rt> RioMerc: I might try dual screening in the near future, are you able to mouse from one to the other?
[05:07] <RioMerc> If you set it up right
[05:07] <M4rotku> Svenstaro: it was done with the update manager, i'm using the hardy heron developement release
[05:07] <Svenstaro> vehicle, yes, you might as well ahve installed ubuntu desktop
[05:07] <RioMerc> I just recently got fglrx to FINALLY work
[05:07] <hischild> vehicle, it would not be pointless. I would only wonder why you wouln't install the desktop one in the first place.
[05:07] <RioMerc> I have to configure BigDesktop today, I'll tell you how it goes
[05:07] <RioMerc> :P
[05:07] <xb3rt> RioMerc: What distro are you on
[05:07] <RioMerc> Ubuntu 7.10
[05:07] <kindofabuzz_> is there a utility to tweak network card setttings?
 Yes, multiverse has a check mark next to it
[05:07] <RioMerc> Infact, I think I'll tackle dualies now
[05:07] <vehicle> i'm trying to set up a file server that i can access on the internet
[05:07] <ibback> m4rotku. Have you try to uninstall it using synaptic by selecting "Mark for Complete Removal" this option will remove also whatever user configuration file. Try it
[05:07] <Svenstaro> M4rotku, okay, which files were affected?
[05:08] <hischild> vehicle, you can do that as well via the desktop one.
[05:08] <Svenstaro> ibback, he wants HIS old config back
[05:08] <M4rotku> Svenstaro: my hardware configuration files, my sound card is not detected
[05:08] <vehicle> is the lack of efficiency going to be noticable?
[05:08] <hischild> vehicle, no
[05:08] <Svenstaro> vehicle, most likely not at all
[05:08] <Svenstaro> M4rotku, ah which sound card?
[05:08] <M4rotku> ibback: i don't know which package it was
[05:08] <vehicle> is server only command line?
[05:08] <ibback> Svenstaro!. ic..i hope he got backup otherwise me think it dead meat
[05:08] <cellofellow> kindofabuzz_: even when I'm running at 54Mbps, I sometimes only get like 5MBps on LAN file transfers. I think the hard drive is the bottleneck.
[05:08] <hischild> vehicle, the desktop and server one use the same stuff. The only difference is that the server doesn't contain a GUI on install.
[05:09] <M4rotku> Svenstaro: it is a realtek, that is all i know
[05:09] <xb3rt> Where does firefox store all of its bookmarked websites that are under the favorites tab
[05:09] <vehicle> hrm.. alright
[05:09] <Svenstaro> vehicle, yes CLI only
[05:09] <vehicle> thanks guys
[05:09] <Svenstaro> np
[05:09] <kindofabuzz_> cellofellow: yeah my hard drives suck, old computer
[05:09] <cellofellow> M4rotku: realtek wireless? I have that.
[05:09] <kindofabuzz_> p4 1.5ghz
[05:09] <M4rotku> cellofellow: i thought realtek was the speakers, my wireless is, well, idk
[05:09] <Svenstaro> M4rotku, good, no creative one. You *could* try to get alsa installed instead of pulseaudio, it might work then
[05:10] <cellofellow> xb3rt: it stores the websites in ~/.mozilla/firefox/somejunk.default/bookmarks.html
[05:10] <M4rotku> Svenstaro: i use alsa as far as i know
[05:10] <Svenstaro> M4rotku, if you havent installed otherwise, you use pulseaudio which is now standard for heron
[05:10] <Svenstaro> if im not completely off that is
[05:10] <xb3rt> cellofellow: so it stores all of them in that bookmarks.html file
[05:10] <cellofellow> M4rotku: sorry, typed before I spoke. I've had some trouble with my wifi card but got it fixed.
[05:10] <cellofellow> xb3rt: yup
[05:11] <M4rotku> Svenstaro: in that case i guess i don't have alsa
[05:11] <eigma> anyone know what files are added by gdm in /etc/event.d?
[05:11] <M4rotku> Svenstaro: but the sound worked before i installed this update
[05:11] <Svenstaro> M4rotku, if your system is new enough for toying around, you might try to just install alsa
[05:11] <Svenstaro> M4rotku, ah I see
[05:11] <cellofellow> M4rotku: ALSA is drivers and a sound API. PulseAudio is a sound server. Runs on top of ALSA.
[05:11] <hischild> what is the easiest way to connect via nautilus on an ubuntu <--> ubuntu home network?
[05:12] <RioMerc> We;;
[05:12] <RioMerc> Wish me luck, I'm going to try to install my dualies
[05:12] <cellofellow> hischild: I use ssh://, but setting up Samba may work too.
[05:12] <Svenstaro> hischild, most likely samba or NFS
[05:13] <xb3rt> cellofellow: that file was actually something different, im looking for the location of the webpages under my bookmarks tab of the Tool bar
[05:13] <cellofellow> hischild: I don't think Nautilus does NFS. AFAIK, NFS is implemented in the kernel and with /etc/fstab.
[05:13] <M4rotku> Svenstaro: i gtg, thanks for your help, if you think of anything, i have a thread going on ubuntuforums.org so you could contact me there
[05:13] <hischild> Svenstaro, cellofellow, alright. The problem i'm having with it, is that ssh and sftp keep timing out on it and i don't see a problem, since i can ssh from one to the other.
[05:13] <Svenstaro> M4rotku, alright, good luck
[05:13] <cellofellow> xb3rt: that is where the bookmarks are stored, though. I'm confused now.
[05:14] <Svenstaro> cellofellow, hischild, you could always mount it to /media and then easily access with nautilus
[05:14] <xb3rt> cellofellow: check it out, its just a file for the ubuntu help page bookmarks
[05:14] <kindofabuzz_>  if anyone has the problem of cursor theme changing to default when hovering over desktop or panels, then back again in apss, i have the solution.  finally figured it out
[05:14] <kindofabuzz_> apps*
[05:14] <cellofellow> xb3rt: not mine. Has all of my bookmarks.
[05:15] <hischild> Svenstaro, this is NFS we're talking about? If so, them i'm interested in hearing more about it. Do you have a link or would you mind guiding me through it?
[05:15] <Svenstaro> hischild, its real easy, were talking about 7.10?
[05:15] <JFerret> Can someone help me get LIRC and my remote to work please
[05:15] <cellofellow> xb3rt: maybe you are using a different bookmarks system. Google Toolbar's bookmarks, maybe?
[05:15] <hischild> Svenstaro, one is 7,10, the other 8,04. The one that would act as server, is the 7,10
[05:16] <xb3rt> cellofellow: I've got the bookmark toolbar along with my bookmark tab on the top window
[05:16] <cellofellow> oh, the bookmark tab
[05:16] <cellofellow> toolbar
[05:16] <cellofellow> whatever...
[05:16] <xb3rt> cellofellow: yea
[05:16] <kindofabuzz_> what's the point of swap if it's never used?  i've opened almost everything i can think of to see if it would get used, my system never touched it
[05:16] <Svenstaro> hischild, in the one that acts as the server, open /etc/exports with some editor and put the following in there: /home 192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0(rw)
[05:16] <cellofellow> xb3rt: this is the built in toolbar, not an extension?
[05:16] <cabrioleur> kindofabuzz_, suspend to swap, hibernation...
[05:16] <Svenstaro> hischild, of course, change ip and path and even subnet as needed
[05:17] <kindofabuzz_> oh, well hib and suspend don't work either lol
[05:17] <Svenstaro> hischild, be careful to leave a .0 at the end of the ip for the subnet mask to work of course
[05:17] <cabrioleur> kindofabuzz_, and in case you do need it. And believe me, Linux is nuts when it's out of swap space.
[05:17] <kindofabuzz_> but mine is never touched
[05:17] <xb3rt> cellofellow:  you know what i mean, the one thats up alongside file, edit, and the other options....It says bookmarks, and you click it and it shows a list of all your saved pages
[05:17] <hischild> Svenstaro, the subnet is ok, the ip is slightly different. The /home is the folder going to be shared? Also, that file doesn't exist, thus i should create it?
[05:18] <Svenstaro> hischild, yes and yes
[05:18] <hischild> Svenstaro, and that ip should be the server one?
[05:18] <cellofellow> xb3rt: that the bookmarks.html file. I promise. The toolbar is a folder in that.
[05:18] <kindofabuzz_> i wish i could get suspend to work
[05:18] <Svenstaro> hischild, the one for the client or client range which is allowed to access the share
[05:18] <hischild> Svenstaro, alright, done
[05:18] <cellofellow> xb3rt: click "Organize Bookmarks..." in the Bookmarks menu.
[05:18] <xb3rt> cellofellow: im looking at it, and its not their
[05:19] <Svenstaro> hischild, on the client, go to /etc/fstab and paste this onto a new line "<server>:</path/of/dir> </local/mnt/point> nfs <options> 0 0" w/o quotes
[05:19] <Svenstaro> hischild, and of course change as needed
[05:19] <cellofellow> xb3rt: in ~/.mozilla/firefox, are there any folders besides the one that has .default in it?
[05:19] <Svenstaro> hischild, I suggest you create the local mnt point in /media so you can easily access it in nautilus
[05:19] <strikerfalcon> is this where the helpful people are?
[05:20] <hischild> Svenstaro, that is what i planned to do
[05:20] <Svenstaro> sometimes, strikerfalcon
[05:20] <xb3rt> cellofellow: ive got /profile and /pref
[05:20] <hischild> strikerfalcon, if you got a question, then ask :-) that's the best way to find out
[05:20] <cellofellow> xb3rt: huh?
[05:20] <xb3rt> cellofellow: those are the two directories under the firefox folder
[05:21] <strikerfalcon> Ive been searching and scratching to find out why my dvd player is not found and no threads have been helpful
[05:21] <hischild> Svenstaro, alright one last question: the path/of/dir on fstab should be the same as the one on exports?
[05:21] <xb3rt> cellofellow: maybe im looking in a completely differnt firefox folder
[05:21] <strikerfalcon> anyone dealt with this problem?
[05:21] <kindofabuzz_> !suspend
[05:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about suspend - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:22] <hischild> strikerfalcon, can you be a bit more specific? Does it give you an error? Does it complain about something?
[05:22] <Svenstaro> hischild, yes
[05:22] <cellofellow> xb3rt: maybe use the filesearch to look for more files named bookmarks.html, because that IS where firefox stores the bookmarks. You've probably got the wrong one.
[05:22] <strikerfalcon> hold on.. let me make it error real quick
[05:22] <Svenstaro> hischild, I forgot to mention, on the server you ahve to run "exportfs -a"
[05:23] <cellofellow> xb3rt: try this `locate bookmarks.html`
[05:23] <hischild> cellofellow,  xb3rt, AFAIK it's in ~/.mozilla/firefox/insertwierdlettersfolder/bookmarks.html
[05:23] <hischild> Svenstaro, alright will do.
[05:23] <xb3rt> cellofellow: found it, was in the wrong dir
[05:23] <Svenstaro> hischild, well run mount -a on the client and hope :)
[05:23] <xb3rt> cellofellow: theirs two files named that
[05:24] <hischild> Svenstaro, seem to be missing nfs-kernel-server ... installing =) (with the chance of writing it all over again)
[05:24] <strikerfalcon> totem says "i may not have permission" when I put in a video dvd
[05:24] <Svenstaro> hischild, Oh i thought that one got installed by default, well better make backups of your files
[05:24] <samuel> sup all
[05:24] <Svenstaro> yo samiam
[05:24] <Svenstaro> yo samuel, imean
[05:25] <cha0s> can anyone tell me why this command doesn't work (in a script)
[05:25] <cha0s> new_src=`echo "$fb_src" | sed s_./_"$2"/_`
[05:25] <samuel> anyone know if there is something similar to fedora's server management tools in ubuntu?
[05:25] <cha0s> result: sed: -e expression #1, char 5: unterminated `s' command
[05:25] <hischild> Svenstaro, ofcourse we have backups. It's second nature of a linux user to have backups. We make backups so easy we don't even remember where we put them ... wait ... where did i put that file again?
[05:25] <cha0s> it appears $2 isn't evaluating before sed is called
[05:25] <hischild> Svenstaro, it gave me an option :-) it's done
[05:26] <nikrud> samuel probably ebox is what you're looking for
[05:26] <Svenstaro> hischild, nice, succes?
[05:26] <Sefyroth> Hi guys, I have a little problem when I try to run the installer for Ubuntu Server 7.10. After choosing my keyboard layout, it says it's looking for my cdrom drive and then tells me it can't find the drivers.
[05:26] <samuel> nikrud: thanks ill look into it
[05:26] <egc> hi all, i have the following command to print a man page: "man foo | col -b | lpr".  Can someone suggest a filter I can use to get this to print 2-up?
[05:26] <strikerfalcon> I recently upgraded to fiesty from edgy and now no mavies will load
[05:27] <hischild> Svenstaro, unfortunately, no. Server is giving me an error. "Neither subtree_check or no_subtre_check specified for export *insert some ip stuff for client*
[05:27] <Svenstaro> strikerfalcon, are you using totem?
[05:27] <strikerfalcon> for watching factory dvds
[05:27] <fismoll8> hey guys, when I type finger in the terminal, my user name pops up three times. How can I be logged in 3 times at once?
[05:27] <strikerfalcon> none of the others ive used have worked
[05:28] <nikrud> fismoll8 got some terminals open?
[05:28] <xTheGoat121x> Evening all.  I noticed that Nautilus organizes my music out of order
[05:28] <jumbers> Are there any programs available to bruteforce the password on a .RAR file that I lost the password to?
[05:28] <samuel> nikrud: ebox is web-based, im looking for something gtk based, any ideas?
[05:28] <JFerret> Can someone help me get LIRC and my remote to work please
[05:28] <nikrud> samuel no, I generally do stuff with the command line
[05:28] <egc> nm, i see it.  "psnup"
[05:28] <Svenstaro> hischild, doesnt it default to subtree?
[05:29] <nikrud> samuel not that I do a lot of server configging, soI don't need much
[05:29] <fismoll8> sorry, I got logged out. Does anyone know why my user name comes up 3 times when I type in finger?
[05:29] <nikrud> fismoll8 got some terminals open?
[05:29] <fismoll8> just one
[05:29] <samuel> nikrud: so do i, but i would like to stop have a gtk tool to do simple changes
[05:29] <xTheGoat121x> nikrud, ah, now I noticed something odd with my finger... it shows a 3rd login, that isn't my username at all.
[05:29] <hischild> Svenstaro, this isn't something i know much about so i can't answer that question ..
[05:30] <Svenstaro> hischild, put this onto the exports string "(rw,no_root_squash,async)"
[05:30] <cha0s> nvm, i solved it... $2 contained an underscore!
[05:30] <Svenstaro> hischild and run exportfs -a again
[05:30] <nikrud> xTheGoat121x fismoll8 all I get is my X login (tty7) and the terminal I do finger in (pts/0)
[05:30] <Svenstaro> hischild just in case also issue sudo /etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server restart
[05:30] <fismoll8> same here, but I also get *pts/1
[05:31] <fismoll8> along with my username
[05:31] <hischild> Svenstaro, alright that's a whole list, Give me a min to do it
[05:31] <xTheGoat121x> nikrud, hmmm that's not good.
[05:31] <nikrud> fismoll8 fismoll8 try lsof | grep pts/1
[05:32] <nikrud> xTheGoat121x what's the username?
[05:32] <stefan__> Hi I'm a noobie and I need help to get my x fi sound card working with linux.
[05:32] <xTheGoat121x> nikrud, "e"
[05:33] <fismoll8> nikrud: nothing happens
[05:33] <Sefyroth> Hi guys, I have a little problem when I try to run the installer for Ubuntu Server 7.10. After choosing my keyboard layout, it says it's looking for my cdrom drive and then tells me it can't find the drivers. Any idea?
[05:33] <nikrud> xTheGoat121x do you have a user e ?
[05:33] <Sefyroth> I succeeded in installing Ubuntu regular edition before.
[05:33] <hischild> Svenstaro, this is odd. If i do this from the command line (exportfs -o rw 192.168.2.5:/home/iositd) it does work. Also, it still complains, yet when running exportfs without options it does show up.
[05:34] <nikrud> fismoll8 I did that with pts/0 , got the processes using that pts
[05:34] <Svenstaro> hischild, uhm
[05:34] <xTheGoat121x> nikrud, nope.  The odd thing, it doesn't show as being logged in to anything... like I have my user on both TTY7 and PTS/0 but e doesn't have anything listed next to it
[05:34] <agung> hhhhhhhhhhiiiiiiiiiiiii
[05:34] <hischild> Svenstaro, man is a mighty tool sometimes ... :p
[05:34] <nikrud> xTheGoat121x and I don't know why that would be happening. Very suspicious on the face of it.
[05:35] <fismoll8> ok nikrud...same here
[05:35] <Svenstaro> hischild, man can be a mighty fool as well :)
[05:35] <hischild> Svenstaro, oh that's true as well, though i try to make the best of it ;-)
[05:35] <fismoll8> thanks nikrud---I think everything is fine
[05:35] <Svenstaro> hischild, anyway, everything working now?
[05:35] <hischild> Svenstaro, not yet. Client can't seem to connect
[05:35] <fismoll8> I think every time you open a terminal or a program, you get another iteration of your username
[05:36] <nikrud> fismoll8 I'm glad you think so. I've never seen anything not obvious in a finger or who
[05:36] <hischild> Svenstaro, according to the error it's a faulty file system selection so i'm guessing i'm missing a package
[05:36] <xTheGoat121x> nikrud, agreed.  If I type "who" I only get two listings.
[05:36] <xTheGoat121x> nikrud, the right ones, too.
[05:36] <nikrud> fismoll8 yes, you do. pts/1 , 2 , 3 etc for each term. That's why I asked if you had any open. Should have 3, if you have 2 terms open
[05:37] <Svenstaro> hischild, on the server do this sudo apt-get install nfs-kernel-server nfs-common portmap
[05:37] <hagoth> oops
[05:37] <Svenstaro> hischild, on the client do sudo apt-get install portmap nfs-common
[05:37] <xb3rt> I found the file I want to get to, /home/brett/.mozilla/firefox/jbkvm7gy.default/bookmarks.html    but I can't find it anywhere
[05:38] <peter__> connect
[05:38] <hischild> Svenstaro, that seems to give some stuff to install client side
[05:38] <kindofabuzz_> hsichild: you doing NFS?
[05:38] <hischild> kindofabuzz_, correct
[05:38] <kindofabuzz_> i just did it on mine: best guide i found: http://digen.wordpress.com/2006/04/28/configuring-nfs-server/
[05:38] <hischild> kindofabuzz_, Svenstaro, and i just succeeded. Awesome
[05:39] <kindofabuzz_> yeah it's pretty easy
[05:39] <Svenstaro> hischild, it be working? :)
[05:39] <hischild> kindofabuzz_, it is, once you know how to do it.
[05:39] <hischild> Svenstaro, yes it is. :-)
[05:39] <Svenstaro> hischild \o/
[05:39] <kindofabuzz_> i gave up on samba, screw the windows on my network lol
[05:40] <hischild> Svenstaro, \../. _o_ .\../  is more my thing ;-)
[05:40] <Svenstaro> :)
[05:40] <hischild> kindofabuzz_, i never bothered to try samba as it's a thing for windows which i'm trying to avoid ;-)
[05:40] <Svenstaro> hischild I'm a bit more on the conservative site concerning emoticons
[05:40] <xTheGoat121x> nikrud, I've noticed something else.... does Nautilus not take into consideration dashes in filenames?  Because my entire music collection is set up as
[05:40]  * Svenstaro likes samba
[05:40] <hischild> Svenstaro, i understand. But a metal fan has to do what a metal fan has to do
[05:40] <kindofabuzz_> hischild: yeah i got samba working to where the windows could see the shares but i couldn't log onto them!
 - <Title> yet it still screws up the order
[05:41] <hischild> kindofabuzz_, last time i tried i got the same effect from ubuntu -> windows
[05:41] <sstoveld> hi everyone
[05:41] <Svenstaro> hischild, I have yet to get to know one single linux user who listens to hiphop
[05:41] <nikrud> xTheGoat121x screws up the order? what do you mean?  You get a different sort order in the terminal than in nautilus?
[05:41] <kindofabuzz_> Svenstaro: hehe
[05:41] <Svenstaro> kindofabuzz_, you have to reboot windows everytime you want to try out a new samba config
[05:42] <Peddy> can someone please tell me if the easy-access audio ports at the front of my PC are worse quality than the ones at the back?
[05:42] <nikrud> Svenstaro you gotta be kidding
[05:42] <j_> Hey, How many Bytes are in a BMP PIXEL?????
[05:42] <kindofabuzz_> Svenstaro: oh, not worth the trouble lol
[05:42] <Svenstaro> Peddy, they are because of interference and cable length, but its doubtful you can hear the difference
[05:42] <bullgard4> "~$ xmodmap; xmodmap:  up to 4 keys per modifier, (keycodes in parentheses):..." What considers the X Window System a 'modifier'?
[05:42] <hischild> Svenstaro, i have to agree on that one ... most of the ones i know either listen to metal, alternative or some other non-mainstream style of music
[05:43] <Svenstaro> hischild ALTERNATIVE all the way
[05:43] <kindofabuzz_> <--- jam-bands
[05:43] <hischild> bullgard4, AFAIK the thing you're trying to make it execute.
[05:43] <kindofabuzz_> widespread panic!
[05:43] <hischild> Svenstaro, kindofabuzz_, <-- gothic metal, viking metal, and all the likings off
[05:43] <fk7_se> whats the best version of ubuntu for a older pc, such as a 1 ghz celeron machine
[05:43] <bullgard4> hischild: Your answer is too abstrect for me. Can you elaborate.
[05:43] <xTheGoat121x> nikrud, well, as an example... I have a band in my collection called Red... their music is interrupted by several other bands, such as the Red Hot Chili Peppers, simply because the title half of the filename starts with an I, for example.
[05:44] <Svenstaro> fk7_se, thats Xubuntu
[05:44] <kindofabuzz_> hischild: viking metal? lol what is that?
[05:44] <memian> fk7_se, try xubuntu
[05:44] <hischild> bullgard4, if you try to make it execute gedit, the modifier would be gedit afaik
[05:44] <fk7_se> thanks
[05:44] <Peddy> Svenstaro: so it still uses HD audio?
[05:44] <fk7_se> thats good to hear because i already have a copy of it lol
[05:44] <xb3rt> lets say I have ubuntu gutsy on my system and I want to dual boot with another linux distro live cd installation, what new partitions would I need, and how would I allow them to both use the same swap space
[05:44] <kindofabuzz_> i listen to bands that can actually play more than 3 chords
[05:44] <hischild> kindofabuzz_, ofcourse. Though i'm afraid we're getting offtopic here. Let's go to offtopic on this one.
[05:44] <kindofabuzz_> hehe sorry
[05:44] <Peddy> Svenstaro: its onboard HD audio btw
[05:44] <Svenstaro> Peddy, technically yes, but from an analog viewpoint your soundquality decreases
[05:45] <kindofabuzz_> well audio connection chat is off topic too! =)
[05:45] <hischild> kindofabuzz_, no problem and i love to talk about it, just trying to avoid a warning ;-)
[05:45] <memian> xb3rt, it will use any swap it finds, and if you want a persistent installation label one of your ext2-3 partition as casper-rw
[05:45] <Svenstaro> xb3rt you only need one swapspace per computer, it can be used by all 100 linux distros you got installed
[05:45] <Peddy> Svenstaro: ok, thanks :) and its not physically that far away, because my 'front' sound ports are not in 'front' in that sense. They are on top (closer to the mobo).
[05:46] <fk7_se> will xubuntu run on a 486
[05:46] <Peddy> Svenstaro: am I off-topic?
[05:46] <nikrud> xTheGoat121x oh. I'd never looked at that. So you mean   Red - Echo,  Red Hot Chili Peppers - Some album,   Red - Ideomatic , it would order like that?
[05:46] <Svenstaro> Peddy, uhm, well it doesnt really concern Ubuntu what you asked, tho im still happy to help :)
[05:46] <xTheGoat121x> nikrud, exactly, and it drives me crazy b/c I'm OCD about my music order.
[05:47] <kindofabuzz_> fk7_se: probably yeah, but would still be sloooow
[05:47] <sstoveld> hey guys, im looking to install ubuntu for the first time. im a newb here, does it matter if i burn the iso to a DVD instead of a CD? im all out of CD's
[05:47] <Svenstaro> fk7_se, I suppose it will, but you might want to use Damn Small Linux there
[05:47] <xTheGoat121x> nikrud, it's like it doesn't have any respect for the dash that's in between the artist and title.
[05:47] <fk7_se> i'll have to experiment with that
[05:47] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, no wont matter
[05:47] <kindofabuzz_> yeah just make that 486 a firewall or something
[05:47] <hischild> sstoveld, no. I installed all my os from a dvd
[05:47] <sstoveld> ok thanks
[05:47] <memian> fk7_se, also try puppy linux
[05:47] <fk7_se> damn small linux, just command line?
[05:47] <kindofabuzz_> fk7_se: yeah
[05:47] <Svenstaro> fk7_se, no ,a powerful window manager is what you get
[05:47] <fk7_se> thanks for the info i'll check into those
[05:47] <kindofabuzz_> oh
[05:48] <kindofabuzz_> used to be only cl
[05:48] <Svenstaro> fk7_se, about any window manager will work on 486
[05:48] <nikrud> xTheGoat121x I keep them in folders, so Red/Echo Ideomatic   Red hot/album  works for me. Make sure it does it as you expect in a terminal, and if nautilus is diifferent file it as a bug. The worst thing that will happen is you'll get a won't fix tag, and maybe an explanation
[05:48] <memian> times are changing
[05:48] <Peddy> Svenstrao: thanks my homie g
[05:48] <Peddy> xD
[05:48] <Svenstaro> Peddy np
[05:48] <sstoveld> well this will be my first time installing ubuntu, anyone have a guide or anything that will have some helpful information for me? like is there anything i need to know before i install it?
[05:48] <hischild> sstoveld, not really. Is there something you're worried about that might go wrong?
[05:48] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, are you curretnly using windows?
[05:49] <kindofabuzz_> fk7_se: MEPIS has a disro for old computers if you wanna stick with debian, starts with an X i think
[05:49] <sstoveld> well i was, until my pc got all messed when i tried installing hellgate london
[05:49] <xTheGoat121x> nikrud, ah, it does it the same way in Terminal.
[05:49] <fk7_se> i would get another hard drive to swap in and out, until you set it up how you want
[05:49] <sstoveld> so now it just keeps trying to boot, but i get BSOD at windows loading screen
[05:49] <sstoveld> so i figure its time for a change
[05:49] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, lol, what a coincidence that you now want to try ubuntu
[05:49] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, are you a gamer?
[05:50] <sstoveld> yeah haha, and ive hear a lot of positive things about ubuntu
[05:50] <nikrud> xTheGoat121x hm
[05:50] <fk7_se> mepis, never heard of it, i will check it out
[05:50] <sstoveld> not a big gamer really, hellgate london is the newest game i want to play
[05:50] <kindofabuzz_> yeah MEPIS is a debian child like ubuntu is
[05:50] <sstoveld> but i do play some games
[05:50] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, let me check on linux compability, but quite honsetly, hellgate sucks :<
[05:51] <sstoveld> haha, well i loved diablo, and i havent played it since i bought it a few months ago
[05:51] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, you are better off playing diablo, hellgate doesnt run on linux as far as I can judge looking at wineapps db and diablo 2 runs like a dream out of the box, and it OWNS
[05:51] <kindofabuzz_> you can probably get diablo running with DOSBOX
[05:51] <xTheGoat121x> nikrud, yeah.
[05:51] <Svenstaro> no need for dosbox
[05:52] <sstoveld> lol ive never used or even seen any linux os, so im completely confused about whatever youre talking about
[05:52] <cpk1> anyone able to help me with hostap? I am having trouble getting clients to authenticate
[05:52] <Smegzor> I can connect to XDMC from anywhere in my LAN but not from the internet.  I suspect I need to edit hosts.allow and hosts.deny  Is there anywhere else that might be blocking remote connections?  I can SSH in from the internet.
[05:53] <sstoveld> i read some of a guide about linux, ill read it later
[05:53] <tgelter> so, I want to ssh into a box and launch an X application on that box...how do I do it? (yeah, I realize this is probably easy)
[05:53] <fk7_se> alright i'm downloading a 97 mb iso for dsl, sound right
[05:53] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, no windows software runs natively on linux, it need to either be emulated or otherwise be made compatible, not all windows apps can be made to work on linux
[05:53] <Smegzor> I have set up remote logins correctly in system/administration
[05:53] <kindofabuzz_> sstoveld: are you good with coomand line in windows?  if so, forget everything you know about it, get ready for new stuff =)
[05:53] <Svenstaro> tgelter, a simple "vncserver" does the job there for you
[05:54] <tgelter> Svenstaro: no way through ssh?
[05:54] <zewb> hello
[05:54] <sstoveld> so would i probably be better off staying with my windows xp? cause this stuff kind of seems pretty confusing, is ubuntu easy to learn to use for newbs?
[05:54] <zewb> i want to run a telnet bbs on my ubuntu box
[05:54] <Svenstaro> tgelter, well you can tunnel vnc through ssh, is probably easiest
[05:54] <sstoveld> nah i didnt use command line much in windows
[05:54] <kindofabuzz_> i got on my dad's XP box, i forgot how to use windows pretty much since i been on linux, and it's only been like a month
[05:54] <zewb> does anyone know how to run a telnet bbs on ubuntu?
[05:54] <sstoveld> haha
[05:54] <tgelter> Svenstaro: no way to just specify DISPLAY to point to the local box?
[05:54] <Angela_Smith> Hi all! Just got ubuntu installed :) I have an AMD 64bit +4800 x2, Do I need the restricted generic drivers for optimal performance?
[05:55] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, depends on what youre trying to do, if you want to set up a LAMP server you will run into some trouble, if you wanna browse the web, edit and listen to music and play some games, ubuntu is better than windows by a couple of miles
[05:55] <kindofabuzz_> i couldn't even remember all the skeyboard shorcut commands i use to know
[05:55] <hischild> Angela_Smith, It usually helps with your graphics card
[05:55] <memian> zewb, did you try google?
[05:55] <fk7_se> oh definitely helps with gfx card, don't forget compiz if not installed
[05:55] <sstoveld> well i dont even know what a LAMP server is, so ubuntu is sounding pretty good to me :)
[05:55] <Svenstaro> tgelter, not directly through SSH, you can still forward the X server output to SSH, tho when I tried it didnt work and when it did its performance sucked, it assumes youre on LAN with the server
[05:56] <kindofabuzz_> yeah it trips me out how people will pay 200$ for a copy of vista and then all they do is get online and check email
[05:56] <tgelter> Svenstaro: alright, thanks
[05:56] <sstoveld> what about drivers though? will i need to install my motherboard drivers to be able to access the internet on a fresh install? like my ethernet driver
[05:56] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, just install "xchat" by issuing a "sudo apt-get install xchat" in the console, log onto this channel and ask us questions
[05:56] <zewb> memian: yes, it didn't help
[05:57] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, no, you will almost never need to do all that windows bollocks
[05:57] <hischild> sstoveld, no. You most likely won't need any drivers at all.
[05:57] <sstoveld> oh nice
[05:57] <kindofabuzz_> unless you are wireless
[05:57] <hischild> in which case you still won't need them most likely
[05:57] <hischild> just a bit less likely
[05:57] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, there are no real driver installs in linux, all is compiled into the kernel and you dont have to worry about that
[05:57] <sstoveld> the more i hear the more anxious i am getting for ubuntu
[05:58] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, remember to install a utility called "envy" (google that, first entry is right) which automatically installs your graphics card drivers
[05:58] <sstoveld> well my iso just finished downloading, is there a special way i need to burn it? or will it work fine burning with dvd decrypter or nero?
[05:58] <kindofabuzz_> you'll like it, we just pray you won't get a install "bug"
[05:58] <Esk1> is there a way to get my wifi driver installed without connecting to the net?
[05:58] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, you will sometimes run into a wall and be frustrated, but at least in the linux world stuff brakes because you made a mistake, not the system :)
[05:58] <prince_jammys> careful with envy
[05:59] <sstoveld> hehe
[05:59] <hischild> Svenstaro, !!!!
[05:59] <hischild> !envy
[05:59] <ubotu> envy is an unsupported tool to install newer versions of binary video drivers than provided by the official repositories. Use at your own risk, and remember that the latest version is not necessarily the "best". See « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[05:59] <prince_jammys> avoid it
[05:59] <Svenstaro> Esk1, compile the module/kernel on a machine that does and put it over to your machine without intenret
[05:59] <anaoum> !ubuntu
[05:59] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[05:59] <kindofabuzz_> yeah and if you're like alot of linux folks, problems can be "fun" sometimes, well for me they can be, but i'm a geek lol
[05:59] <anaoum> !debian
[05:59] <ubotu> Ubuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship - Remember, !repositories meant for Debian should NOT be used on Ubuntu!
[05:59] <anaoum> !repositories
[05:59] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[06:00] <prince_jammys> anaoum: /msg ubotu
[06:00] <Esk1> thanks sven
[06:00] <bullgard4> "~$ xmodmap; xmodmap:  up to 4 keys per modifier, (keycodes in parentheses):..." What considers the X Window System a 'modifier'?
[06:00] <hischild> kindofabuzz_, oh i like problems. I thrill on them and i love them. :P
[06:00] <anaoum> sorry prince
[06:00] <mrpockets> dude
[06:00] <Esk1> is there a site that has terminal shortcuts?
[06:00] <mrpockets> i've got a bluetooth dongle for my Motorola cell phone
[06:00] <kindofabuzz_> hischild: hehe
[06:00] <Svenstaro> problems are awesome :)
[06:00] <mrpockets> and i wanna pull some pics off my phone
[06:00] <mrpockets> how?
[06:00] <Svenstaro> mrpockets, per bluetooth?
[06:01] <mrpockets> eh?
[06:01] <epitron> is there a logfile for gnome session startup? (my gnome session is crashing when i start it)
[06:01] <scream_sayonara> does someone feel like talking to a retard about media players
[06:01] <Svenstaro> mrpockets, how do you connect to the phone?
[06:01] <anaoum> has anyone ever setup jungledisk on an ubuntu machine?
[06:01] <mrpockets> bluetooth?
[06:01] <epitron> what's a jungle disk
[06:02] <hischild> scream_sayonara, we all do :-) what's the problem?
[06:02] <anaoum> http://www.jungledisk.com
[06:02] <Svenstaro> mrpockets, okay, do you have a way to accept bluetooth connection on your computer? like a usb dongle or something?
[06:02] <sstoveld> ok guys, one more question before i install, do i need to wipe my drive first or can i do that when im installing with the iso im burning to disc?
 i've got a bluetooth dongle for my Motorola cell phone
[06:02] <hischild> sstoveld, can be done when installing :-)
[06:02] <prince_jammys> sstoveld: you don't need to wipe anything.
[06:02] <epitron> sstoveld: you can do whatever you want from the installer -- resize partitions, wipe drives, etc.
[06:02] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, you can do that on the fly
[06:02] <sstoveld> thanks :D
[06:02] <Svenstaro> sstoveld YOU CAN EVEN BROWSE THE WEB AND CHAT WHILE YOU ARE INSTALLING!
[06:02] <sstoveld> haha support here is great :D
[06:03] <sstoveld> o rly?
[06:03] <sstoveld> awesome
[06:03] <Svenstaro> sstoveld now try a microsoft hotline
[06:03] <sstoveld> HAHA
[06:03] <anaoum> there should be a direct link to this channel on the live cd desktop!
[06:03] <sstoveld> oh that reminds me of a picture
[06:03] <sstoveld> let me find it :D
[06:03] <scream_sayonara> i cant play my john saffran dvds.... ive downloaded a couple of different players but they all need plugins and when i go to the help pages there are never any links.. just words which make little to no sense to me
[06:03] <hischild> Svenstaro, you just so much made my day
[06:03] <Svenstaro> sstoveld dont get discouraged when stuff breaks,of course it would suck if you couldn't even boot to ubuntu, tho theres little probabilty that you cant
[06:03] <prince_jammys> scream_sayonara: can you play any dvds?
[06:04] <sstoveld> http://www.weboptimist.com/images/microsoft_tech_support.jpg
[06:04] <Svenstaro> hischild :)
[06:04] <sstoveld> yeah, that wouldnt be too fun :(
[06:04] <Svenstaro> sstoveld whats your video card and processor?
[06:04] <scream_sayonara> nah.. totem will play the first title screen and stop, and caffeine just says that it doesnt have the plugin
[06:04] <sstoveld> amd 64 athlon 300+ venice
[06:04] <scream_sayonara> i can play other video files, just not actual dvds
[06:04] <sstoveld> ati sapphire radeon x800 GTO2
[06:04] <kindofabuzz_> anyone got a good guide to running a webserver using apache?  i got it all installed, just don't know what to do now
[06:04] <prince_jammys> scream_sayonara: did you install libdvdcss2 ?
[06:04] <b0xxy> anyone here have experiance with back-track
[06:04] <hischild> sstoveld, that pic reminds me of the internet help desk
[06:05] <sstoveld> haha
[06:05] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, no problems there :)
[06:05] <scream_sayonara> nah what is that and where do i get it? i am so new to this
[06:05] <sstoveld> :)
[06:05] <prince_jammys> scream_sayonara: that's the key library
[06:05] <sstoveld> only 1.5gb of ram, problem? or am i good there?
[06:05] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, sadly ATI doesnt like Linux so their drivers are a bit meh
[06:05] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, you will feel okay even with 512, but no lower
[06:05] <kindofabuzz_> sstoveld: you're good, i only have 756
[06:05] <sstoveld> oh so i do need drivers? i thought you didnt need drivers?
[06:05] <kindofabuzz_> or whatevr it is
[06:05] <scream_sayonara> but what does that mean? can i check somehow if its on here?
[06:06] <kindofabuzz_> 764
[06:06] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, well of course you need drivers, just htat you dont need to care about them :)
[06:06] <sstoveld> oh :P
[06:06] <Angela_Smith> Is a AMD +4800 X2, a K8 processor? TIA
[06:06] <prince_jammys> scream_sayonara: type in terminal: apt-cache policy libdvdcss2
[06:06] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, is there any crucial windows software that you need?
[06:07] <prince_jammys> scream_sayonara: if it is not installed, you will see "Installed: none"
[06:07] <sstoveld> hmm, what would be an example of crucial software?
[06:07] <mrpockets> dude
[06:07] <mrpockets> so yeha
[06:07] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, something that you cant live without :)
[06:07] <sstoveld> maybe photoshop, flash, dreamweaver, pretty much adobe CS3
[06:07] <praveen_> dell pf 320 freeze after first boot screen
[06:08] <praveen_> can any one help
[06:08] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, uhh damnit, because the CS3 series doenst yet work im afraid :(
[06:08] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, CS2 does like a charm, not CS3 yet
[06:08] <sstoveld> well thats fine, i prefer photoshop cs2 better :)
[06:08] <hischild> Svenstaro, there are good alternatives to it though =)
[06:08] <Svenstaro> sure there are, they yet have to top photoshop tho :(
[06:09] <sstoveld> but whatabout dreamweaver and flash? i need to go with flash 8 and dreamweaver 8?
[06:09] <Syko> i'm having trouble finding the xorg.conf file... can anyone point me in the right directoin?
[06:09] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, let me check
[06:09] <Svenstaro> Syko, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:09] <sstoveld> k thanks :)
[06:09] <belkinhelp2> hello my fellow ubuntu users
[06:09] <Syko> svenstaro thx
[06:10] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, all the CS2 tools work like a charm
[06:10] <hischild> sstoveld, dreamweaver is platinum so should be gd :-)
[06:10] <Svenstaro> CS3 works like garbae :(
[06:10] <belkinhelp2> have any of you experienced the following problem:  When I watch video clips from youtube or google it seems that every now and again the audio "stutters" anywhere from a second to a few seconds, then the clip continues to play normally.  This happens infrequently and not on ever clip.  Any ideas?
[06:10] <sstoveld> k
[06:11] <Radit> Is there a any program to manage psd files, like acdsee in ubuntu?
[06:11] <kindofabuzz_> belkinhelp2: i have the same problem, i thought it may be a firefox problem
[06:11] <Svenstaro> Radit, tried fspot and picasa?
[06:11] <andross> hi anybody knows how to fix the sound problem with the 82801H (ICH8 Family) card? I know i have to download a package but I dont remember it's name.
[06:11] <belkinhelp2> im using ubuntu 7.10 with all the latest updates
[06:12] <belkinhelp2> i have firefox on my windows machine and it doesnt do it there
[06:12] <belkinhelp2> thats why i thought it was an ubunutu issue
[06:12] <belkinhelp2> perhaps something along the lines of memory allocation or virtual memory
[06:12] <sstoveld> ok installing ubuntu right now, i probably want to check cd for defects firsth eh?
[06:12] <Svenstaro> belkinhelp2, are you using adobe flash?
[06:12] <sstoveld> first*
[06:12] <belkinhelp2> ubunut has a page file, or swap file i imagine just like windows does correct?
[06:12] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, no you dont
[06:13] <belkinhelp2> svenstaro...thats a good question
[06:13] <kindofabuzz_> Svenstaro: yeah, youtube has to use flash
[06:13] <sstoveld> no? just go with Start or install ubuntu?
[06:13] <belkinhelp2> kindo...yeah i think your right
[06:13] <anaoum> what package do i install for a text based irc client on linux?
[06:13] <Svenstaro> kindofabuzz_, theres adobe flash and openflash, which i dont remember the name of
[06:13] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, yes
[06:13] <prince_jammys> sstoveld: yes. checking for defects is optional
[06:13] <kindofabuzz_> Svenstaro: gnash i think
[06:14] <belkinhelp2> svenstaro...let me look at the browser plugin list...brb
[06:14] <sstoveld> k
[06:14] <kindofabuzz_> when i installed flash on fresh install it gave me option of gnash
[06:14] <sstoveld> here we go :D
[06:14] <Svenstaro> anaoum, its called "bitchx"
[06:14] <anaoum> thanks
[06:14] <Radit> Svenstaro: When clicking a psd file through nautilus, f-spot doesn't shows a white image instead of the image.. does nautilus show psd files like thumbnails?
[06:14] <Svenstaro> Radit, not by default, you might need a plugin for that
[06:14] <bazhang> anaoum: there is irssi if you wish
[06:14] <prince_jammys> anaoum: irssi. bitchx is not supported any more, i think (though it's there)
[06:15] <Svenstaro> try irssi then, my fault
[06:15] <anaoum> i need something that runs on centos 5 :(
[06:15] <bazhang> anaoum: you are not using ubuntu?
[06:15] <hischild> what are the current file systems that are recommended for an external drive?
[06:15] <Radit> Svenstaro: do you know any? or know where to look?
[06:15] <sstoveld> hmm it seems like nothing is happening now, i got some status bar that filled up then it went to this black screen and now my monitors are blank, and my keyboard lights and monitor lights are flashing
[06:15] <anaoum> i am on all my desktops/laptops
[06:15] <anaoum> but i have a vps server running centos5
[06:15] <Svenstaro> hischild, fat32 for sticks, ext3 for platters
[06:15] <belkinhelp2> svenstaro....shockwave flash
[06:15] <kindofabuzz_> belkinhelp2: i just read on the firfox forums that some people fixed it by clearing there cache in firefox
[06:16] <hischild> Svenstaro, platters being?
[06:16] <Svenstaro> Radit, sorry. no. You might try google on that
[06:16] <Radit> ok, thx..
[06:16] <hischild> Svenstaro, external ones with drives in them?
[06:16] <THISGUYNEW> How do i uninstall Sound Drivers in Ubuntu?
[06:16] <Svenstaro> hischild, everything that rotates at 7200 rpm and uses a magnetic head to write bits
[06:16] <belkinhelp2> kindofabuzz...my cache is cleared everytime i close the browser
[06:16] <kindofabuzz_> oh ok
[06:16] <hischild> Svenstaro, mine rotates 5400rpm but ok ... ext3 it is
[06:17] <THISGUYNEW> I Need to uninstall my sound drivers in ubuntu
[06:17] <sstoveld> hmm should i just restart computer and try this again? nothing happening :P
[06:17] <belkinhelp2> this is off topic but does anyone know a good channel where people discuss the upcoming global financial collapse...illuminati type stuff?
[06:18] <bazhang> not here belkinhelp2 thanks
[06:18] <THISGUYNEW> Is There a way to uninstall sound drivers in Ubuntu?
[06:18] <kindofabuzz_> belkinhelp2: just also read some people switched to an older version on flash and it helped
[06:18] <belkinhelp2> bazhang....i was just assuming linux users were more "aware" than their windows counterparts
[06:18] <Svenstaro> THISGUYNEW, "sudo apt-get remove --purge alsa", but you really dont wanna do that
[06:19] <THISGUYNEW> Svenstaro, why not ^^
[06:19] <belkinhelp2> bazhang....looking for that "meeting at the docks" if you get my drift
[06:19] <THISGUYNEW> Svenstaro, i just want my USB Headsets to work
[06:19] <THISGUYNEW> Svenstaro, recordmydesktop is conflicting and junk
[06:19] <Svenstaro> THISGUYNEW, then you need alsa, no uninstalling
[06:19] <THISGUYNEW> Svenstaro,  =(
[06:19] <bazhang> belkinhelp2: offtopic here thanks
[06:19] <THISGUYNEW> Svenstaro,  what should i type tho if not that?
[06:19] <Svenstaro> THISGUYNEW, disable the inputs/outputs as you need in the system volume panel
[06:20] <THISGUYNEW> Svenstaro, i am confused :(
[06:21] <THISGUYNEW> Svenstaro, am a linux newbie :(
[06:21] <Svenstaro> THISGUYNEW, well, what exactly do you want to accomplish?
[06:21] <kindofabuzz_> woohoo! chatzilla as a seperate process! http://chatzilla.rdmsoft.com/xulrunner/
[06:21] <THISGUYNEW> Svenstaro, i just want to uninstall my sound card and have only my USB Head sets working
[06:22] <Svenstaro> THISGUYNEW, that wont work like it does in windows, in linux theres one global sound driver for all your sound stuff
[06:22] <kindofabuzz_> lemme close this in case it interfers,,i'll be back
[06:22] <zewb> strange
[06:22] <scream_sayonara> why wouldnt i have "software properties" in my system menu?
[06:22] <THISGUYNEW> Svenstaro, how do i find out what the name of my USB MiC Aspect is called?
[06:23] <prince_jammys> scream_sayonara: you're back. so you are installing libdvdcss now?
[06:23] <THISGUYNEW> Svenstaro, cause recordMyDesktop asks for a device
[06:23] <sstoveld> hey guys am i doing something wrong here? maybe my burn didnt work? when i go to install ubuntu i get the status bar saying loading linux kerner, then it goes to some black screen, then my monitors go blank and nothing happens :S
[06:23] <Svenstaro> THISGUYNEW when you plug it in, type into a terminal "sudo lsusb" and watch out for something that could be it
[06:23] <Syko> Compiz? Problem:  When going from "None" on visual effects to "Normal" or "extra" I get a white screen.. Any Ideas for this one?
[06:23] <zewb> apt-cache search shows all sorts of software to run telnet muds but no telnet bbses
[06:23] <THISGUYNEW> Svenstaro, it gives me a bunch of junk
[06:24] <scream_sayonara> prince_jammys: yeah well i downloaded these two files but i dont know what to do with them.. so i went to the help page and now im trying to add these respository things because there's pretty succint instructions on how to do this from there
[06:24] <scream_sayonara> except i dont have the menu options that they do
[06:24] <THISGUYNEW> Svenstaro, theres nothing like Device USBMic
[06:24] <prince_jammys> scream_sayonara: ubuntu or kubuntu?
[06:24] <marjan> !x-rar
[06:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about x-rar - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:24] <scream_sayonara> unbuntu
[06:24] <scream_sayonara> -n :)
[06:24] <jaek> hmm whats a good tv tuner program, xawtv is sooo old school and tvtime isnt working for me
[06:25] <prince_jammys> scream_sayonara: try this: sudo apt-get install libdvdread3
[06:25] <marjan> does any one knows how can i open a X-rar
[06:25] <THISGUYNEW> Svenstaro, i am lost :(
[06:25] <prince_jammys> scream_sayonara: let me know what happens
[06:25] <andross> hi anybody knows how to fix the sound problem with the 82801H (ICH8 Family) card? I know i have to download a package but I dont remember it's name
[06:25] <THISGUYNEW> Svenstaro, its like set to Device : DEFAULT
[06:26] <THISGUYNEW> Svenstaro, i need to put my USB Headset device in that thing
[06:26] <THISGUYNEW> Svenstaro, and i dont know the name exactly
[06:26] <marjan> does any one knows how can i open a X-rar
[06:26] <scream_sayonara> o_O and then what?
[06:26] <prince_jammys> scream_sayonara: now paste this command::  sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[06:26] <THISGUYNEW> Svenstaro, anymore ideas man?
[06:27] <prince_jammys> scream_sayonara: that will automatically install libdvdcss2
[06:27] <scream_sayonara> command not found?
[06:28] <prince_jammys> scream_sayonara: was the install of libdvdread3 successful?
[06:29] <scream_sayonara> can i paste in here what it says?
[06:29] <prince_jammys> scream_sayonara: only if it's one or two lines
[06:29] <jetscreamer> !paste
[06:29] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[06:29] <marjan> does any one knows how can i open a X-rar
[06:30] <scream_sayonara> well it says, reading package lists, done, building tree thing, done, livdvdthing is already the newest version, libdvd set to maunal installed
[06:30] <scream_sayonara> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 59 not upgraded.
[06:31] <scream_sayonara> after i did the first one...
[06:31] <prince_jammys> scream_sayonara: that means it was installed already
[06:31] <scream_sayonara> but when i typed the first thing it said it wasnt,
[06:31] <scream_sayonara> and i cant play my dvd ;p
[06:31] <marjan> !unrar
[06:31] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[06:31] <prince_jammys> scream_sayonara: check one more time: sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[06:32] <prince_jammys> scream_sayonara: cut and paste it
[06:32] <niketas> Guys, who knows how to bind an "&mdash;" for "Alt Gr"+"-" combination?
[06:32] <scream_sayonara> i did cut and paste it and says command not found
[06:32] <scream_sayonara> administrator@administrator-desktop:~$ sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[06:32] <scream_sayonara> sudo: /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh: command not found
[06:33] <prince_jammys> scream_sayonara: ok hold on
[06:33] <scream_sayonara> :)
[06:33] <scream_sayonara> thank you, prince of helpful
[06:33] <prince_jammys> scream_sayonara: they changed where it is
[06:33] <prince_jammys> scream_sayonara: sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh
[06:34] <scream_sayonara> sweet that looks like its working
[06:35] <prince_jammys> scream_sayonara: now *hopefully* you can play dvds. if you can't, we'll see if you need plug-ins or something
[06:35] <j_> Hey, How many Bytes are in a BMP PIXEL?????
[06:35] <marjan> !unrar
[06:35] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[06:35] <Ademan_> j_: 24 generally
[06:36] <j_> right, but there can be from like 1 to 32?
[06:36] <scream_sayonara> nah they both still say they will not
[06:36] <moe_> hay i removed vista last week and i'm using ubuntu and i just have to say UBUNTU IS THE BEST (OS) THE WORLD WILL EVER SEE but i got it all right i just nead some help can anyone please help me
[06:36] <j_> er
[06:36] <j_> 24 sry
[06:36] <j_> i mean
[06:36] <prince_jammys> scream_sayonara: first let's see if we got step one out of the way:  apt-cache policy libdvdcss2
[06:36] <j_> 1-12
[06:36] <j_> 1-24
[06:36] <j_> 1 is like gray
[06:36] <zewb> they have synchronet for ubuntu but i don't like synchronet that much
[06:36] <scream_sayonara> yeah thats on there
[06:37] <prince_jammys> scream_sayonara: ok
[06:37] <zewb> i wish there was a telnet bbs server in the ubuntu repo
[06:37] <Ademan_> j_: well 24 bits anyways, and i'm not quite sure exactly how "low" it will go, 1 bit per pixel would be monochrome, which i didn't think it supported
[06:37] <Ademan_> zewb: lol!
[06:37] <j_> yes
[06:37] <j_> mono
[06:37] <j_> 1 = monochrome palette. NumColors = 1
[06:37] <j_> 4 = 4bit palletized. NumColors = 16
[06:37] <j_> 8 = 8bit palletized. NumColors = 256
[06:37] <j_> 16 = 16bit RGB. NumColors = 65536 (?)
[06:37] <j_> 24 = 24bit RGB. NumColors = 16M
[06:37] <prince_jammys> scream_sayonara: you use Totem ?
[06:37] <j_> but this teacher of mine
[06:38] <j_> asked a question, how many bytes are in 1 pixel on a BMP
[06:38] <j_> so i was like WTF
[06:38] <j_> was a singular
[06:38] <j_> answer
[06:38] <scream_sayonara> ive got totem and kaffeine
[06:39] <prince_jammys> scream_sayonara: use "synaptic" or "sudo apt-get install" the plug-ins in this link: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/codecs.html
[06:39] <Ademan_> anyone here use something other than gnome-terminal and konsole ? i'm not dissatisfied, just curious if there's anything else worthwhile out there, and no one say xterm :-p
[06:39] <prince_jammys> scream_sayonara: dvds are a pain, because of legal issues
[06:40] <prince_jammys> Ademan_: yakuake
[06:40] <prince_jammys> Ademan_: or "tilda" for gnome
[06:40] <Ademan_> prince_jammys: ah yeah, forgot about those, they're pretty cool, ultimately i decided i didn't need them though
[06:40] <j_> my teacher hadme write a paper on opensource stuff today ;D, was about linux check it out
[06:40] <Ademan_> i just discovered Eterm, but that didn't provide anything terribly exciting imho
[06:40] <prince_jammys> Ademan_: i can't live without my yakuake
[06:41] <j_> http://www.firstmonday.org/issues/issue3_3/raymond/
[06:41] <etyl> Hi, my mouse isn't working. Can anyone tell me the default shortcut for either the gnome menu or the equivalent of windows' start>run ?
[06:41] <j_> ctrl f2?
[06:41] <sstoveld> hey guys, i seem to be having a problem installing ubuntu, can anyone help?
[06:41] <j_> etyl
[06:41] <prince_jammys> alt f2
[06:41] <bazhang> etyl: alt f2
[06:41] <j_> alt f2, sry
[06:42] <etyl> j_, thanks, now i can google on something other than the console :)
[06:42] <Ademan_> !ask | sstoveld
[06:42] <ubotu> sstoveld: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[06:42] <j_> lol
[06:42] <sstoveld> :) ok
[06:42] <j_> why did they wanna make Kubuntu a whole new release
[06:43] <sstoveld> well im trying to install ubuntu, but im having a problem. i boot from cd, choose start or install linux, then i get the status bar saying loading linux kernet, then it goes to some black screen, then my monitors go blank, and the lights on them flash like they would if the computer were turned off, and my keyboard lights are flashing too
[06:44] <j_> ok
[06:44] <Svenstaro_> sstoveld, I got you, please try hardy
[06:44] <j_> well i know sstoveld
[06:44] <Svenstaro_> sstoveld, sadly you have an ACPI problem :(
[06:44] <sstoveld> hardy?
[06:44] <j_> you need to load up safe mode, cuz of your video drivers, or Mobo
[06:44] <j_> just do safe
[06:44] <Svenstaro_> sstoveld, the development version, hang on, it fixes the prob
[06:44] <sstoveld> oh, so try it in safe mode? ok let me try that
[06:44] <prince_jammys> sstoveld: or use the alternate cd
[06:44] <Iceman_B> greetings, anyone know how to make a SATA drive visible in 7.10 ?
[06:45] <light50> does anyone know if ooo has support channel?
[06:45] <Svenstaro_> prince_jammys he wont have success booting the system after installing from alternate
[06:45] <j_> nono sstoveld, same happened to me, just use the Safe install, like second option down on boot screen
[06:45] <Iceman_B> I have 2 sata drives, the first one seems to have both paritions mounted, the second one(sdb?) is nohere to eb found
[06:45] <sstoveld> ok let me try it quick
[06:45] <zewb> does anyone know of any unofficial repositories that would have telnet bbs software?
[06:45] <spartan7> can anyone help me with my sound?
[06:45] <prince_jammys> Svenstaro_: you mean he has no option other than installing hardy?
[06:45] <sstoveld> Start Ubuntu  in safe graphics mode?
[06:46] <sstoveld> this will install it?
[06:46] <Svenstaro_> prince_jammys if he's bitten by the ACPI problem, then yes
[06:46] <Svenstaro_> sstoveld, yes try that first
[06:46] <sstoveld> ok
[06:46] <sstoveld> nope, no good
[06:47] <foobar> exit
[06:47] <Svenstaro_> sstoveld, Im afraid you need to try hardy, let me hand you a link.
[06:48] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-beta-desktop-i386.iso
[06:48] <bluefoxx> someone asked if anyone tired the Hardy Heron Beta yet? i am running it now, and i have to say that other than a error with the bootup on my newer machine and having to hunt down certain programs, its kickass fully instaled. there is no way im going back to gutsy now XD
[06:48] <sstoveld> what is hardy? like a beta of a new release?
[06:48] <prince_jammys> yes
[06:48] <bazhang> !hardy
[06:48] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[06:49] <Ademan_> http://antony.lesuisse.org/qweb/trac/wiki/AjaxTerm   WOW! has anyone seen this? pretty cool idea (though it seems to be slow as piss) basically access to your machine when all you've got is a web browser :-)
[06:49] <sstoveld> ah
[06:49] <bluefoxx> i just have to get it to boot from a scsi drive on my other comp
[06:49] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, its got a better chance of working for you, im sorry it didnt work so far
[06:49] <spartan7> can someone please help me with my sound problem  :P
[06:49] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 please for hardy discussion thanks
[06:49] <sstoveld> good thing i just stocked up on dvds :D
[06:49] <sstoveld> haha its no problem, i expected some issues having it being the first time doing this, its not your fault
[06:50] <Iceman_B> nobody around with sata hdd expertise?
[06:50] <Svenstaro> Iceman_B, I do, what up?
[06:50] <sstoveld> going to take a while to download this iso though unfortunately :(
[06:51] <Iceman_B> Svenstaro: I have 2 SATA ports on my mobo, both with a drive. Im trying to mount the second one(SDB?) which contains 1 NTS partition
[06:51] <Iceman_B> but ubuntu can find it
[06:51] <Iceman_B> *can't
[06:51] <Svenstaro> Iceman_B, bios update :)
[06:51] <niketas> Ubuntu-people, I'm just stuck: how to bind a symbol for a certain key combination? Like an &mdash; for "AltGr"+"-"
[06:51] <Iceman_B> no I mean it works in windows, I forgot to say
[06:51] <niketas> Is it a matter or a keyboard layout?
[06:52] <Iceman_B> so its there
[06:52] <kindofabuzz_> what would be the command to make a folder and its contents readable and executable? chmod r+x <folder>?
[06:52] <pler> boebu
[06:52] <Starnestommy> kindofabuzz_: chmod -R +x folder
[06:52] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, while ur downloading we'll try around a bit, put in the ubuntu disk and boot it to the boot menu
[06:52] <kindofabuzz_> Starnestommy: thanks
[06:52] <sstoveld> ok im there
[06:52] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, press "e", you can now edit the boot parameters
[06:53] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, it should be a rather long string
[06:53] <spartan7> Im having problems getting sound to play on my ICH8 sound card can anyone help?
[06:53] <sstoveld> hmm nothing seems to happen when i press e
[06:53] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, second
[06:53] <j_> what kind of comp, sstoveld
[06:53] <sstoveld> boot menu is where it displays the options to install and such, correct?
[06:54] <Iceman_B> thanks anyway Svenstaro, I'll try mucking around in fstab
[06:54] <sstoveld> what do you mean by what kind?
[06:54] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, yes, hang on a bit im gonna put in my own boot disc so I get an idea of what im telling you
[06:54] <j_> the CD boot mentu
[06:54] <sstoveld> k
[06:54] <j_> well u dont need to sven
[06:54] <j_> just google it
[06:54] <j_> images
[06:54] <j_> its on there
[06:54] <Svenstaro> j_, he's got a ACPI problem :(
[06:55] <j_> well his screen goes blank?
[06:55] <Svenstaro> yup, and kernel panic
[06:55] <sstoveld> ok well, when i press F6, i get this string that says boot options
[06:55] <Svenstaro> ah right
[06:55] <anaoum> hello, i am using pidgin - what do the symbols next to the usernames mean?
[06:55] <Svenstaro> yes go to its end
[06:55] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, go to its end, do you see a "splash" somewhere?
[06:55] <sstoveld> yes, last thing there says splash --
[06:56] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, remove "quiet splash" and boot
[06:56] <sstoveld> leave -- in there?
[06:56] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, yes
[06:56] <Svenstaro> ultimately, you can now boot ubuntu, if not it will at least display some messages and errors
[06:57] <prince_jammys> anaoum: i don't use pidgin, but they probably show whether a user is an op
[06:57] <sstoveld> ok i see a lot of stuff going on here now
[06:57] <Svenstaro> thats good
[06:57] <anaoum> yes prince, that is what i thought
[06:57] <anaoum> if i join a new channel, i automatically become an op?
[06:57] <prince_jammys> anaoum: heh
[06:58] <sstoveld> ooh here we go :D
[06:58] <Iceman_B> anaoum: if its empty, then usually yes
[06:58] <sstoveld> uh oh...
[06:58] <prince_jammys> anaoum: oh i see. your own channel.
[06:58] <anaoum> yeh
[06:58] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, waht up?
[06:58] <anaoum> eg /join #anaoum
[06:58] <sstoveld> well it finished going crazy, displayed some new colorful screen and heard some sound, then it all went blank
[06:59] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, uhoh
[06:59] <anaoum> how do i let other people that have joined become "ops"
[06:59] <Terrasque> sstoveld: seems like it just developed a new form of crazy
[06:59] <sstoveld> lol
[06:59] <Iceman_B> does ubuntu have a hotkey equivalent to the windowskey+D
[06:59] <Iceman_B> (excuse my cursing)
[06:59] <anaoum> Iceman_B: control a d
[07:00] <anaoum> sorry, control ALT D
[07:00] <Iceman_B> ah, nifty, thanks anaoum :)
[07:00] <sstoveld> ooh
[07:00] <sstoveld> hang on...
[07:00] <sstoveld> im in
[07:00] <spartan7> Im having problems getting sound to play on my ICH8 sound card can anyone help me before I go insane?  :P
[07:00] <sstoveld> omg i feel like an idiot...
[07:00] <anaoum> and the uqivilent of windows key is alt f1
[07:01] <sstoveld> i think my monitor just turned off its display
[07:01] <anaoum> and windows r = alt f2
[07:01] <sstoveld> just had to move the mouse :D
[07:01] <bazhang> aha
[07:01] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, ah yeah that happens sometimes to me :)
[07:01] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, anyway, grats
[07:01] <sstoveld> hehe
[07:01] <sstoveld> ok so now what do i have to do here? just double click the install icon?
[07:01] <zewb> are there any virtual modems for ubuntu?
[07:02] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, yeah or just have a look around :)
[07:02] <sstoveld> hehe this looks niiiiiice :D
[07:02] <sstoveld> just to make sure here, i can still use dual monitors yes?
[07:03] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, sure
[07:04] <sstoveld> hehe this is real nice :D
[07:04] <zewb> lol one thing i hate about community-driven software is that if you need help doing something that nobody cares about anymore, like running a telnet bbs, you're SOL.
[07:05] <lyte> zewb: you can always offer to pay for support... people tend to care when you do
[07:05] <Iceman_B> Svenstaro: what if I manually add my second sata drive to fstab? would that work you think?
[07:05] <zewb> lol
[07:06] <Svenstaro> Iceman_B, do "sudo apt-get install gparted" and then "sudo gparted" and look the hdd up
[07:06] <Iceman_B> oh thanks
[07:06] <Iceman_B> Iĺl try that
[07:07] <sstoveld> ok so now, how do i set up my dual monitors? like in windows i would just right click desktop and go to appearance tab or whatever it was
[07:07] <Arenlor> I've been searching this for a while to find this post I used before to make a minimal install but can't find it, it listed the packages needed for a basic GNOME install from the alternate CD's text only option, anyone know where it is?
[07:07] <spartan7> is there a channel who's forte is sound issues?
[07:07] <bazhang> #alsa spartan7
[07:07] <kindofabuzz> i'm back =)
[07:07] <spartan7> there alseep
[07:08] <spartan7> ;)
[07:08] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, hang on a sec
[07:08] <sstoveld> k
[07:08] <kindofabuzz> sstoveld: you on linux yet?
[07:08] <sstoveld> ya
[07:08] <kindofabuzz> right on!
[07:08] <sstoveld> :D
[07:09] <sstoveld> well its installing, but im browsing :D
[07:09] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, system -> settings -> screens and graphics
[07:09] <kindofabuzz> cool
[07:09] <nomopofomo> Is anyone aware of how to configure MythTV as a UPnP server?
[07:09] <Svenstaro> or something like that, im using the german localization
[07:09] <kindofabuzz> Svenstaro: wasn't that you talking bad about chatzilla?
[07:09] <Svenstaro> NO
[07:10] <kindofabuzz> k
[07:10] <nox-Hand> I am looking to build an installable Ubuntu Linux redistribution for release for our schools laptops. I.e I will change bootsplash, themes, default installed apps, settings and more. How would I get this onto an installable CD where you change user name at install or something?
[07:10] <sstoveld> hmm i dont see that, i have preferences, or administration in my system menu
[07:11] <bazhang> #ubuntu-mythtv will be experts on that nomopofomo
[07:11] <sstoveld> and i dont see screen and graphics in either of them :(
[07:11] <kindofabuzz> doesn't the OEM install do what nox is talking about?
[07:11] <Svenstaro> administration it is, right sstoveld
[07:11] <nomopofomo> bazhang, thank you
[07:11] <Iceman_B> Svenstaro: it doesnt show in gparted either. I must say it was and is showing when I boot under windows, but I am having unexplicable errors
[07:11] <sstoveld> ah gotcha :D
[07:11] <Iceman_B> thanks again tho
[07:11] <Svenstaro> Iceman_B, this is most strange
[07:12] <bazhang> nox-Hand: you are going to individually install them one by one on each laptop?
[07:12] <Iceman_B> is there any way to force ubuntu to do a scan of the...whatever it is SATA drives connect to ?
[07:13] <J-_> How do I restart the sound server? /etc/init.d/alsa restart?
[07:13] <xfn> m
[07:13] <nox-Hand> bazhang: Roger that is currently the idea. We are not sure whether this will be installed as default on laptops or as option for the moment.
[07:14] <bazhang> nox-Hand: there is a tool for doing that remix kind of thing similar to reconstructor on fedora; cant remember the name at the moment
[07:14] <Svenstaro> Iceman_B, hang on
[07:15] <Svenstaro> Iceman_B, fdisk -l, if doesnt show there you are fuxored :/
[07:15] <Svenstaro> Iceman_B, ah wait, is it about a whole disk or a partition?
[07:16] <Iceman_B> er both?
[07:16] <Iceman_B> its one drive, connected to the second sata port on my mobo, it contains one ntfs partition
[07:16] <kevin> hello, i was wondering if it is possible to pre-order and pay for a copy of ubuntu 8.04?
[07:17] <Iceman_B> which Im trying to mount to /media/some_dir
[07:17] <bazhang> http://uck.sourceforge.net/ this might be it nox-Hand
[07:17] <Svenstaro> Iceman_B, okay, if it doesnt show in gparted you most likely have it attached to some very foreign controler
[07:17] <jetscreamer> fdisk -l
[07:17] <sstoveld> hmm ok so when i go in there, it says screen 2 is unknown, so i select the make and model, but i cant select secondary screen, it is greyed out
[07:17] <Svenstaro> kevin, ubuntu is totally free
[07:17] <Iceman_B> wierd, im using an Asus A7V-600 mobo
[07:18] <Iceman_B> not the strangest of mobo\s I'day
[07:18] <jetscreamer> fdisk -l
[07:18] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, I'm gonna guide you on this on you installed ubuntu
[07:18] <agent> hi room
[07:18] <sstoveld> haha, i love you :D
[07:18] <sstoveld> hi, agent
[07:19] <bazhang> kevin: you will likely need to wait until after the final release to get it; shipit or osdisc (both do that, one for free)
[07:19] <kevin> ok
[07:19] <alan_m> you COULD use an alpha cd of ubuntu, but thats not gonna be supported in here, and i should drop it, which i will now. :)
[07:20] <agent> So, i have a problem and i just remembered that there is a chat room!  so here goes!  i am running a multiple video card setup. i have 2 geforce2 cards in my system.  Both are working but i cant get the second card to work with any other driver than the nv one.
[07:20] <bazhang> um beta, and discussed in #ubuntu+1 ;]
[07:20] <alan_m> alpha..beta...its something dangit :)
[07:20] <agent> i was wondering if there is a problem with using the same driver on 2 cards at once
[07:20] <alan_m> lol
[07:20] <Svenstaro> sstoveld highlight me when youre done
[07:21] <Svenstaro> agent, dont you need the nvidia legacy driver?
[07:21] <sstoveld> oh you meant when i installed ubuntu
[07:21] <sstoveld> ok Svenstaro, it just finished installing, restarting now
[07:21] <agent> i opened the restricted driver manager and checked both of 'em
[07:22] <agent> legacy and regular
[07:22] <bazhang> why legacy?
[07:22] <agent> the one that is workin' is a geforce2 mx 400 the other is a geforce 2 GTS
[07:22] <philip__> hello everyone
[07:22] <philip__> any support here
[07:22] <agent> the legacy driver doesnt happen to use a different name than 'nvidia' does it?
[07:23] <alan_m> sure we support in here, what seems to be your issue your having?
[07:23] <jetscreamer> no it doesn't
[07:23] <agent> thought not
[07:23] <sstoveld> Svenstaro, the install finished and it said to complete, restart now. so i restarted and now nothing is happening :( monitors are blank again, and this time its not cause the display shut off haha
[07:23] <philip__> i got a question, is their anyone who knows how to install the Retail Management System in ubuntu?
[07:24] <philip__> have anyone try this?
[07:24] <bazhang> philip__: what is that?
[07:24] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, when you are at the grub (the boot manager), press esc while the time is running out, you should have 3 seconds
[07:24] <subfreeze> I rebooted my Ubuntu 7.10 laptop and ran into "1.044000 Kernel Panic- Not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block (0,0)".  Kind of sucks, anyone know how to fix this? I get it in normal bootup and single user bootup (safe mode).
[07:24] <philip__> well i have RMS (Retail Management System  and i want it to install in ubuntu using wine, anyone tried this before?
[07:25] <sstoveld> oh, when i was restarting it told me to take out the cd in the tray and press enter. going to put it back in now
[07:25] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, no dont
[07:25] <Svenstaro> we wont need it
[07:25] <philip__> bazhang have you tried this before?
[07:25] <bazhang> philip__: no idea what that is; have you checked winehq's appdb?
[07:25] <sstoveld> oh ok
[07:25] <subfreeze> hmm
[07:25] <mtx1>  xxxpasshacks
[07:26] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, when booting, you should see some "press esc to enter menu" after which it boots, well youre gonna press esc there
[07:26] <agent> i assume that the driver works since the mx400 runs glxgears and glxinfo shows rendern'
[07:26] <sstoveld> Svenstaro, im at the screen after the grub
[07:26] <philip__> ahh ic....ok i'll check this one
[07:26] <agent> but the gx?  nuthin
[07:26] <sstoveld> yes im there now, 3 different selections to choose from now
[07:26] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, if you see different boot entries now, thats is grub youre seeing :)
[07:26] <bazhang> !appdb | philip__
[07:26] <ubotu> philip__: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org
[07:26] <sstoveld> oh ok i see :)
[07:26] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, choose the first and press "e", go to the end and remove splash and quiet
[07:27] <sstoveld> i dont see splash, just quiet, so i removed quiet
[07:27] <Svenstaro> k
[07:28] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, if you think it brakes, just wait a bit, it might work anyway
[07:28] <Svenstaro> if not, youll at least see some error
[07:28]  * alan_m gets the can of troll-b-gon out
[07:28] <subfreeze> Anyone have an idea on my kern. panic issue on bootup?
[07:28] <agent> 9639 is the nvidia driver version that should be runnin' right?
[07:28] <sstoveld> ok, so what do i do after i remove quiet? :)
[07:28] <nox-Hand> bazhang: Will give it a look, thanks :)
[07:28] <sstoveld> hit esc?
[07:28] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, oh right, press enter and then "b"
[07:29] <bazhang> nox-Hand: no worries ;]
[07:29] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, it should boot you up
[07:29] <fol> chris
[07:29] <bazhang> agent this is on gutsy? and that is what the restricted drivers manager has? then should be the right ones, yes
[07:29] <SeanInSeattle> Hey all.  Anyone have any experience with usb mice not being recognized when plugged in after you've logged in already?
[07:29] <fol> server.telkom.net
[07:30] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, im sorry, i wasnt telling the correct thing, are you still are grub level?
[07:30] <agent> 7.10
[07:30] <Svenstaro> at*
[07:30] <OwNsYa> hey, im trying to install ssh server i do sudo apt-get install ssh. but the only packages that come up is ssh-askpass-gnome and ssh-client ?? lol
[07:30] <sstoveld> yes, im at the screen where i can remove the different entries here
[07:30] <sstoveld> where i removed quiet
[07:30] <Svenstaro> OwNsYa, you want "sudo apt-get install openssh-server"
[07:30] <agent> thats what nvidia-settings has for driver version
[07:31] <bazhang> OwNsYa: what about apt-cache search ssh what does that reveal?
[07:31] <OwNsYa> oh
[07:31] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, k you figured you need to use "d" to remove it, right?
[07:31] <subfreeze> I rebooted my Ubuntu 7.10 laptop and ran into "1.044000 Kernel Panic- Not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block (0,0)".  Anyone familiar with this error?
[07:31] <sstoveld> yup
[07:31] <genuser> yes i am familiar with it.
[07:31] <OwNsYa> thanks, lol.
[07:31] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, you see the second entry from the top, beginning with kernel?
[07:31] <SeanInSeattle> Hey all.  Anyone have any experience with usb mice not being recognized when plugged in after you've logged in already?
[07:31] <sstoveld> yes
[07:31] <subfreeze> genuser: Any idea how to resolve it?
[07:31] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, youre gonna go there, press e and go to the end, remove splash, press enter, press b, and hope
[07:32] <genuser> well, do you have scsi driver installed in your kernel?
[07:32] <sstoveld> remove quiet from there also?
[07:32] <subfreeze> genuser: I didn't change anything.  I have been running Ubuntu 7.10 on this laptop since it came out.  Did not do an upgrade of any sort, just rebooted.
[07:32] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, if there is a quiet, yes
[07:32] <sstoveld> ok i see stuff going on now
[07:32] <subfreeze> Apache started throwing seg faults, then X crashed, so I rebooted and got that error.
[07:32] <genuser> subfreeze: did you change or add to anything?
[07:32] <sstoveld> looking good so far :D
[07:33] <Svenstaro> subfreeze, you might want to boot with a ubuntu cd, and run a check on those parts
[07:33] <subfreeze> genuser: I ran dpkg-reconfigure console-setup
[07:33] <Svenstaro> subfreeze fsck -f /dev/hda1 for example
[07:33] <OwNsYa> hmm, no openssh-server does that mean its the mirrors or something?
[07:33] <agent> should i have both drivers checked in the restricted driver manager?
[07:33] <Svenstaro> subfreeze, doesnt sound good i gotta admit :<
[07:33] <Svenstaro> OwNsYa, did you activate all repos?
[07:34] <sstoveld> Svenstaro, :D im logged in
[07:34] <subfreeze> Svenstaro: When I'm in GRUB I can still see the filesystem, which is a bonus, I guess..
[07:34] <Svenstaro> agent, you shouldnt need to
[07:34] <OwNsYa> whats that mean LOL i only just installed unbuntu.
[07:34] <genuser> subfreeze: i feel like you have changed your harddrive in initscript in your kernel from either sda to hda or hda to sda. i may be wrong though.
[07:34] <OwNsYa> ubuntu*
[07:34] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, hooray! lets make the fix permanent
[07:34] <bazhang> !yay | sstoveld
[07:34] <ubotu> sstoveld: Glad you made it! :-)
[07:34] <sstoveld> hehe, thanks :D
[07:34] <agent> what is a 'legacy card'?
[07:34] <subfreeze> genuser: Is there an easy way to correct this with the inability to boot the kernal?
[07:34] <agent> geforce 2 fall into that?
[07:34] <Svenstaro> OwNsYa, okay, open synaptic and in the options select all the repositories
[07:34] <Iceman_B> Svenstaro: thank again for your input, I'll see if I can work this problem out
[07:34] <Iceman_B> (500GB of anime and music ;_;)
[07:34] <Svenstaro> Iceman_B, alright, good luck man
[07:35] <subfreeze> genuser: Can I change the root=UUID:52abc.... line to root=/dev/sda1?
[07:35] <genuser> subfreeze: what output did you get for dkpg-reconfigure? did you run && console-setup?
[07:35] <subfreeze> genuserI ran dpkg-reconfigure console-setup  and changed the font size for my consoles.
[07:35] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, now for our first terminal session :)
[07:35] <chris062689> what is the best way to upgrade to Hardy from Gutsy?
[07:35] <bazhang> lots of updates ;]
[07:35] <sstoveld> Svenstaro, im excited :P
[07:36] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 chris062689 please thanks
[07:36] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, open a terminal, type "sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst"
[07:36] <genuser> subfreeze: i deal with this kind of thing all the time in gentoo. is there a way to take a look into your kernel? (sorry i'm inexperienced in ubuntu. i run ubuntu on my laptop and that's about it)
[07:36] <orbisvicis> i am trying to register a script in /etc/init.d/ using update-rc.d, but it isnt executed and doesnt show up in bum/sysv-rc-conf. Can someone help me debug ?
[07:36] <Svenstaro> orbisvicis, is it executable?
[07:37] <orbisvicis> yes
[07:37] <subfreeze> genuser: I only have access to GRUB.
[07:37] <sstoveld> is that Lst? or (one)st?
[07:37] <Svenstaro> sstoveld ?
[07:37] <sstoveld> menu.Lst?
[07:37] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, yes, just lower case
[07:37] <sstoveld> k
[07:37] <genuser> subfreeze:is your grub setting altered? and i don't think grub affects your kernel in any way when it loads. you get this message on your kernel boot or when grub boots?
[07:38] <subfreeze> genuser: Kernal boot.  Grub works fine.
[07:38] <sstoveld> ok
[07:38] <Svenstaro> orbisvicis, to test this, take the init.d skeleton script, copy your stuff in there and change the runlevel
[07:38] <Svenstaro> to test, that is
[07:38] <sstoveld> Svenstaro, im in
[07:38] <LupoBluAlfa> weeeee
[07:38] <subfreeze> genuser: I'll boot off of the CD and see if I can get anything resolved in that manner.
[07:38] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, alright, scroll down, you should see the lines that are familiar to you from the grub menu
[07:38] <genuser> subfreeze: yeah i would ask you to grep your kernel setting but i'm on jack daniels high and can't remember the commands atm
[07:38] <LupoBluAlfa> CIAO RAGA
[07:39] <subfreeze> genuser: Isn't good ol' Jackie D a low, not a high? ;)
[07:39] <genuser> subfreeze: yes please do. i'm sorry for not helping.
[07:39] <sstoveld> yes i see them
[07:39] <orbisvicis> Svenstaro, init.d skel script ?
[07:39] <genuser> subfreeze: yeah :)
[07:39] <sstoveld> delete quiet and splash then save?
[07:39] <LupoBluAlfa> WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
[07:39] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, yup, delete all instances of quiet and splash from the primary entry
[07:39] <subfreeze> genuser: Enjoy Jack.  I'll twiddle my thumbs while the CD downloads.
[07:39] <ip81> hello how do i use gaim
[07:39] <ip81> ?
[07:39] <ip81> pidgin?
[07:40] <Svenstaro> orbisvicis, yup, if it aint there google for it, you dont need to register the script, just put a working skeleton into /etc/init.d and it will execute
[07:40] <genuser> subfreeze: okay good luck. i'll hang around for a bit more and may retire for the night.
[07:40] <sstoveld> Svenstaro, ok, done and saved
[07:40] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, alright, do you by any chance know what harddisk you installed onto?
[07:40] <ScottONanski> !Hello
[07:40] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
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[07:40] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[07:41] <sstoveld> Svenstaro, yes, my primary partition
[07:41] <agent> unchecking the non-legacy option in the restricted driver manager makes the "nvidia" driver stop working
[07:41] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, do you know what it is called in linux?
[07:41] <khushil> ick KhushilDep
[07:41] <sstoveld> Svenstaro, nope :P
[07:42] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, alright, in a terminal do "sudo fdisk -l" and paste the output
[07:42] <KhushilDep> Hey all - anyone know what (Details: serial 296 error_code 8 request_code 140 minor_code 14) means when trying to run gxine ?
[07:42] <ScottONanski> What's the advantage of compiling a kernel?
[07:43] <sstoveld> Svenstaro, what is hotkey for terminal btw?
[07:43] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, there is none afaik, you gotta define one yourself :)
[07:43] <sstoveld> k
[07:43] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, i always got my terminal handy in my top bar
[07:43] <Svenstaro> ScottONanski, learning, and you can compile defines into it which arent there by default, usually not necessary
[07:44] <turbough> i get a warning while using debootstrap from fedora: W: Failure while configuring base packages.  This will be attempted 5 times
[07:44] <turbough> does debootstrap need to configure the base packages?
[07:44] <bazhang> turbough: from fedora? please read /topic
[07:44] <sstoveld> hmm, this will be easier to do if i get on irc on my desktop
[07:44] <orbisvicis> Svenstaro, unfortunately the script is already made, rtirq.sh @ http://www.rncbc.org/jack/
[07:44] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, sure
[07:44] <sstoveld> is there an irc client already installed?
[07:44] <ScottONanski> Sven: Thanks. So, can I compile a kernel according to my machine specs?
[07:44] <turbough> bazhang: i'm trying to install ubuntu over fedora remotely
[07:45] <sstoveld> or can i just install chatzilla in firefox?
[07:45] <agent> oh hey... i think i got it....
[07:45] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, yes, but I prefer xcaht, "sudo apt-get install xchat" yes or that
[07:45] <agent> but now my top and bottom bars are missing
[07:45] <agent> wth
[07:45] <bazhang> turbough: aha what about mounting the minimal iso (9MB) and doing it that way?
[07:45] <Svenstaro> ScottONanski, yes, but it wont be noticably faster anymore these days
[07:45] <turbough> bazhang: can i chroot to the minimal iso?
[07:45] <Svenstaro> orbisvicis, I dont quite get what you are trying to tell me there :/
[07:45] <ScottONanski> Sven: Okay, thanks.
[07:46] <sstoveld> ok i will brb
[07:46] <turbough> bazhang: i have no keyboard or monitor. it's just a server attached to a network in some building in a different country.
[07:46] <turbough> i've been following https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/hppa/linux-upgrade.html
[07:46] <sstoveld> ok back
[07:47] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, try "sudo grub-install /dev/hda"
[07:47] <orbisvicis> Svenstaro, i cant use the skel script because the script i need <rtirq.sh> is already written and deals with rtprio on realtime kernel stuff
[07:47] <bazhang> turbough: you should probably wait until the SSH gurus arrive; I just know how to trigger the bot here ;]
[07:47] <Svenstaro> orbisvicis, okay well, then just make a skel script that starts your script
[07:47] <Rammy> net
[07:47] <sstoveld> Svenstaro, /dev/hda does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.
[07:47] <Svenstaro> certainly not the fine english way but works
[07:47] <turbough> bazhang: thanks
[07:48] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, okay, looking at /boot/grub/menu.lst again, can you tell which device it is? look at the entry for the primary boot option, the should be a "root" entry
[07:49] <agent> ok, so now that i am using the legacy driver on login my top and bottom bars start to load and then dissapear
[07:49] <orbisvicis> Svenstaro, i did not know this but a init.d script apparently is invalid if it has a suffix
[07:49] <Svenstaro> agent, are you using compiz?
[07:49] <orbisvicis> so rtirq instead of rtirq.sh seems to work so far
[07:49] <agent> nope
[07:49] <sstoveld> /dev/hdc1   *           1       29837   239665671   83  Linux
[07:49] <sstoveld> Svenstaro, you mean this?
[07:49] <Svenstaro> orbisvicis, I did not know that
[07:50] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, are wonderful, type "sudo grub-install /dev/hdc"
[07:50] <orbisvicis> reboot/test
[07:51] <agent> i just made a folder and tried to open it
[07:51] <agent> i saw the window for a split second
[07:51] <agent> then... GONE
[07:51] <sstoveld> Svenstaro, ok it finished, said no errors reported
[07:51] <Svenstaro> agent, are the desktop effects enabled?
[07:51] <agent> nope
[07:51] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, then lets dare it shall we, reboot :)
[07:52] <sstoveld> Svenstaro, hehe ok, wish me luck!
[07:52] <agent> can I confirm that its off commandline?
[07:53] <[nix]> Anyone know the name of the mp3 program in this screenshot http://visionsofart.deviantart.com/art/1601-output-74848505
[07:53] <arooni> how do i get xvidcap installed?
[07:53] <julian_> ping
[07:54] <hischild> is there a good compare tool for comparing 2 folders filled with txt files?
[07:54] <sstoveld> Svenstaro, success! TY :D
[07:54] <Svenstaro> hischild, wanna compare the contents?
[07:55] <julian_> hi, i got my first kernels compiled, but they have a version number: 2.6.22.9 and the ones installed with my ubuntu is 2.6.22-14. the problem is now: i cant get the restricted modules to work. cause versionnumbers dont fit together. how can i get rid of this? so how to install the restrictedmodules or how to make my kernel a version number like 2.6.22-14 ?!
[07:55] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, very nice, please keep in mind that you *may* have to do this after every kernel update, which wont be too often tho
[07:55] <sstoveld> Svenstaro, hehe i dont quite know what that means, but sounds good :P
[07:55] <hischild> Svenstaro, yes that'd be correct. I got 2 versions of a programming project and i would like to compare them.
[07:56] <Svenstaro> julian_, you *don't* want to mix kernel modules of different versions
[07:56] <sstoveld> Svenstaro, update manager is telling me i have 202 updates to install, and i dont know what any of them do, should i just install all of them?
[07:56] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, im only saying that, if you updated and then after rebooting this problem occurs, you know what to do, its a bit inconvient
[07:56] <julian_> Svenstaro, i installed linux-source so normally it should be the same? or why should it be different?
[07:56] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, yes, go ahead :)
[07:57] <Svenstaro> julian_, from the ubuntu package?
[07:57] <julian_> Svenstaro, yes?!
[07:57] <Svenstaro> hischild, I wouldnt know a program to do it, but a script should well be possible to do it
[07:57] <sstoveld> Svenstaro, oh ok, i understand
[07:58] <Svenstaro> julian_, that indeed is strange
[07:58] <hischild> Svenstaro, could you help me with something with that?
[07:58] <julian_> hischild: there is a programm called Kompare that should help you
[07:58] <Toznoshio> How do I convert a .png picture into .xpm to use it as an icon?
[07:58] <Svenstaro> Toznoshio, install imagemagick
[07:58] <julian_> hischild: its the windows version of WinMerge if this is familar to you
[07:58] <sstoveld> Svenstaro, how about installing other applications such as AIM and Windows live messenger? how do i go about doing that? look for a linux version of it on their website?
[07:58] <julian_> sstoveld, you just need Gaim, or pidgin
[07:58] <Toznoshio> Svenstaro: thanks, I'll try that
[07:59] <hischild> julian_, i've heard of it. I'll look into it.
[07:59] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, right, you only need pidgin for all your chatting needs, it does them all
[07:59] <sstoveld> ok, so where can i get gaim or pidgin?
[07:59] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, its installed by default
[07:59] <julian_> sstoveld, there are extra programs for msn trying to get the webcam and stuff working, but none of them work for me with webcam, so i stayed with pidgin
[08:00] <sstoveld> oh i found pidgin
[08:00] <julian_> Svenstaro, is there a way to tell my kernel that it is a 2.6.22-14? i used the kernel option for arbitraray version number but that didnt work at all..
[08:00] <Svenstaro> julian_, you have to do that at compile time, and it depends on the way you make your kernel
[08:00] <Svenstaro> make-deb?
[08:01] <julian_> Svenstaro, i do it like sudo make-kpkg --initrd kernel_image
[08:01] <ScottONanski> Man, Linux is *so* cool. :) I've just recently made the switch to Linux and I'm stoked about it. I can't wait to start learning how to used the shell and write scripts.
[08:01] <julian_> Svenstaro, do i need to use the --revision flag?
[08:01] <shoon> While installing Ubuntu 7.04 an Unable to install GRUB "Executing 'grub-install (hd0)' failed." fatal error occurred. If I manually installed and configured GRUB would my install be saved?
[08:01] <agent> i just changed all the true's in /etc/compizconfig/config to false in an attempt to 'turn off desktop effects'
[08:01] <agent> correct y/n?
[08:02] <sherl0ck> hey i was writing a post in the forums, and it was in tips/tutorials area, and it accidently was submitted early before i could finish. and said it was sent to moderator, how can i contine working on it
[08:02] <julian_> agent normalyl you just need to right click on desktop and change the effects to no effects
[08:03] <agent> it is not listed
[08:03] <agent> so it isn't running?
[08:03] <Svenstaro__> wow i totally got disconnected at 9:00 am
[08:03] <fol> co_cakkepp
[08:03] <Svenstaro__> sstoveld you there?
[08:03] <julian_> Svenstaro, i do it like sudo make-kpkg --initrd kernel_image
[08:04] <julian_> Svenstaro, do i need to use the --revision flag?
[08:04] <agent> so then i have to ask.  "Why do my top and bottom bars disappear when using the legacy nvidia driver?"
[08:04] <sherl0ck> hey i lost my post on the forums, how can i find it? i created it
[08:04] <sherl0ck> or started the thread
[08:04] <agent> This is not what happens using "nv"
[08:04] <cyntek> How can i find what version of nvidia is installed ?
[08:04] <Svenstaro__> julian_, usually yes, but only the kernel itself knows what version it is, I dont think you could ro should enforce that
[08:04] <agent> i found it in nvidia-settings
[08:05] <sorsis> cyntek: with add/remove programs. look which package of nvidia-drivers is installed.
[08:05] <sstoveld> Svenstaro, sorry, wasnt paying attention, looking through all the new exciting things here :D
[08:05] <agent> 1.00-XXXX where X is shorthand version
[08:05] <Svenstaro__> sstoveld, are you updating?
[08:05] <anaou1> lol
[08:05] <sstoveld> Svenstaro, yeah
[08:05] <Svenstaro__> goodie
[08:05] <agent> "Also, when opened all windows appear to 'expand' for a split second and disappear
[08:05] <julian_> hm ok then i just install the restricted modules by hand no problem. just thought i did something wrong.
[08:06] <Jaffarkelshac> hello ppl
[08:06] <Svenstaro__> agent, are you really sure desktop effects are off?
[08:06] <sstoveld> ok so how about torrents? does utorrent work on ubuntu?
[08:06] <Jaffarkelshac> "when I log on sometimes, my themes and personal settings including screen res. are all changed to something else. , but when i use alt + ctr + bckspace and log back in it goes back to my settings.
[08:06] <Esk10> anyone have any idea how to get a wacom bambo working?
[08:06] <agent> how else do I confirm?
[08:06] <sorsis> sstoveld: use ktorrent
[08:06] <julian_> last question: how comes that my compiled kernel is alot smaller, BUT the initrd image is 10 times bigger
[08:06] <Svenstaro__> sstoveld, yes it would, but there are linux equivalents
[08:06] <agent> no right click option for disable
[08:06] <agent> no menues
[08:06] <Jaffarkelshac> anyone know how to prevent it from happening
[08:06] <Svenstaro__> agent, do this in a terminal "sudo metacity --replace"
[08:07] <bazhang> agent just alt f2 metacity --replace no need for sudo
[08:07] <sstoveld> sorsis, ktorrent eh? never heard of it, ill give it a try
[08:07] <Svenstaro__> sstoveld, no, try "deluge" i like it better
[08:07] <cyntek> sorsis: The add/remove app: says Nvidia binary X.org driver(new) driver, but, is this as new as the one on the nvidia site?
[08:07] <sstoveld> deluge? k
[08:08] <Jaffarkelshac> "when I log on sometimes, my themes and personal settings including screen res. are all changed to something else. , but when i use alt + ctr + bckspace and log back in it goes back to my settings. how to i stop this from happening
[08:08] <agent> alt f2 doesn't do anything
[08:08] <sorsis> cyntek: use nvidia-settings to solve that
[08:08] <Svenstaro__> agent, ctrl + alt+ f2 does do it, you will swap to a console
[08:08] <YotoshiWii> can anyone recommend a good C++ compiler for a n00b?
[08:08] <Svenstaro__> YotoshiWii, mingw
[08:08] <Svenstaro__> YotoshiWii, g++ of course as well
[08:09] <agent> alt f1 profile says can't open X display
[08:09] <cyntek> sorsis: how do i access the nvidia settings?.
[08:09] <sstoveld> lol ok here's a newb question, what version of ubuntu am i using here? haha is it gutsy gibbon?
[08:09] <sorsis> cyntek: from command line
[08:09] <Svenstaro__> sstoveld, yes it is
[08:09] <YotoshiWii> ok, thank you. :D
[08:10] <Jaffarkelshac> how do I use the menu-xdg when i install the package
[08:10] <cyntek> sorsis: what is the command line?
[08:10] <YotoshiWii> wait, are them programs for windows?
[08:10] <Svenstaro__> sstoveld, sudo apt-get install deluge :) as with 90% of the software you want
[08:10] <Svenstaro__> YotoshiWii, well you can run them on windows
[08:10] <sstoveld> oh ok hehe
[08:10] <YotoshiWii> i'm looking for something to run on Ububtu
[08:11] <Svenstaro__> sstoveld, open synaptic first and make sure you have all repositories enabled
[08:11] <shoon> While installing Ubuntu 7.04 an Unable to install GRUB "Executing 'grub-install (hd0)' failed." fatal error occurred. If I manually installed and configured GRUB would my install be saved?
[08:11] <Svenstaro__> YotoshiWii, they also run on ubuntu :)
[08:11] <sstoveld> oh i cant do it yet, installing updates
[08:11] <YotoshiWii> ...and something to correct my spelling. :p
[08:11] <Svenstaro__> shoon, yes
[08:11] <cyntek> I mean...how would i access the nvidia settings in terminal?
[08:11] <YotoshiWii> ok, thanks dude
[08:11] <sstoveld> synaptic?
[08:11] <shoon> Svenstaro: Thank you.
[08:11] <Svenstaro__> np guys
[08:12] <Jaffarkelshac> does anyone know to use the debian menu-xdg after installing the package.
[08:12] <Svenstaro__> cyntek, nvidia-settings
[08:12] <Svenstaro__> sudo sthat
[08:12] <Svenstaro__> sstoveld, and yes, sadly thats a little limitation there, you can only have one installation running at once
[08:12] <cyntek> svenstaro_: yeah, i want to know what version of nvidia driver is installed.
[08:13] <cyntek> Because i downloaded the new driver from the nvidia website.
[08:13] <sstoveld> Svenstaro, hehe, no problem, but what is synaptic and this thing about repositories?
[08:14] <cyntek> syntaptic is an application file manager!.
[08:15] <Svenstaro__> sstoveld, well in windows if you wanted software you would go to google, find the softwares website, download it, (possibly pay it), double click it and install. In Ubuntu with 90% of the software you dont need to do that, you only open synaptic, your package manager, type in waht you want or even browse if you want to discover new software, and tick to install it. and it will install itself.
[08:15] <Svenstaro__> sstoveld, synatic will also keep track of all your packages and update all, automatically if you want, unlike windows where you have to repeat the previous process all the time to update it
[08:16] <Svenstaro__> way more comfortable
[08:16] <sstoveld> oh ok, sounds good
[08:16] <sstoveld> where do i access it?
[08:16] <agent> ok.  when screen2 is using nv and 1 is using nvidia there isn't a problem
[08:17] <Svenstaro__> sstoveld system -> admin -> synatic
[08:17] <keoni> can someone point me into the direction of somewhere where i can find info on how to make a application only launch if a specific system is connected to the network?
[08:17] <Svenstaro__> agent, thats super wierd, they should both be able to run off the same driver
[08:17] <sstoveld> oh ok, thanks
[08:17] <Svenstaro__> agent, the drivers would even clash
[08:17] <agent> well ah dunno
[08:17] <nomopofomo> How do I update my search index?
[08:17] <agent> i kinda know what im doing but
[08:17] <agent> :shrug:
[08:18] <sstoveld> Svenstaro, ok now, what about connecting to a home network? like my laptop and the other computers in the house?
[08:18] <Svenstaro__> keoni, you can constantly ping for a certain ip and make it launch something if the ip goes online
[08:18] <agent> wrote my first xorg.conf today
[08:18] <agent> here i am
[08:18] <agent> lol
[08:18] <Svenstaro__> sstoveld, as in file transfeR?
[08:18] <sstoveld> Svenstaro, yes
[08:18] <crashhandler> how to change my computer name.Now it is Localhost.
[08:18] <Svenstaro__> sstoveld, go to places -> network, and well, browse it
[08:19] <Svenstaro__> crashhandler "sudo hostname NEWHOSTNAMEHERE"
[08:19] <Jaffarkelshac> ok how do i connect to windows shared folders????
[08:19] <agent> so what tests?
[08:19] <crashhandler> Jaffarkelshac^  tq
[08:19] <agent> i am willing to follow a guide
[08:19] <Svenstaro__> Jaffarkelshac, go to places -> network, and well, browse it
[08:19] <sstoveld> oh! awesome! thanks :P
[08:19] <agent> got nuthin
[08:19] <agent> 2 hours of googlin and damnation
[08:19] <agent> further than i was.... at least i get video of SOME kind on screen2
[08:20] <sstoveld> ok brb, i need to restart now, updates all finished
[08:20] <Svenstaro__> sstoveld, keep in mind
[08:20] <Svenstaro__> sstoveld, you will ahve to fix it again
[08:20] <nomopofomo> Isn't there a way to update the index of all files on your harddrive for use with the locate command?
[08:20] <Svenstaro__> nomopofomo "sudo updatedb"
[08:20] <sstoveld> oh you mean delete the quiet splash stuff?
[08:20] <sstoveld> ok
[08:20] <Svenstaro__> sstoveld, yes, wait
[08:20] <sstoveld> ok
[08:20] <Jaffarkelshac> it does not always show up, in windows you just type backslash and ip and you are there
[08:21] <DistroJockey> Jaffarkelshac: You could try pressing Alt+F2 and typing in:  smb://the.machines.ip.number
[08:21] <nomopofomo> Svenstaro__, Thank you.
[08:21] <Svenstaro__> sstoveld you can do it now, permantenly till next update, like last time :) sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:21] <Jaffarkelshac> i will try than
[08:21] <sstoveld> oh ok, i dont have to wait til i reboot
[08:21] <sstoveld> sounds good :D
[08:21] <crashhandler> how can i know command for spesific application?
[08:22] <evan_> how can i add the program mtpfs to the normal user group?
[08:22] <sstoveld> ok brb, restarting
[08:22] <gyaresu> evan_: gpasswd
[08:23] <Svenstaro__> crashhandler, rephrase that please
[08:23] <gyaresu> evan_: 'gpasswd -h' for options but it's 'gpasswd -a user group'
[08:23] <Esk10> ok guys i can't install opera because of an error unsatisfiable libqt3-mt and i can't seem to get flash to work
[08:23] <gyaresu> *sudo
[08:24] <Esk10> could someone point me in the right direction?
[08:24] <gyaresu> Esk10: What version of opera 9.2 or 9.5 beta?
[08:24] <evan_> gyaresu, but how do i know wich group mtpfs is?
[08:24] <gyaresu> Esk10: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-get-flash-working-in-opera-920.html
[08:25] <agent> should there be any options on screen 1 in xorg.conf?
[08:25] <Esk10> 9.26
[08:25] <agent> i am running without any atm
[08:25] <Esk10> i can't get opera to download
[08:25] <gyaresu> evan_: I don't know what mtpfs is... just finding out.
[08:25] <Esk10> or flash in mozilla
[08:26] <gyaresu> Esk10: download? Have you enabled the universe repo or operas?
[08:26] <agent> got nologo true and allowglxwithcomposite true for screen 0
[08:26] <Jaffarkelshac> the smb thing does not work i still cannot connect any shared folders
[08:26] <evan_> gyaresu, its a program wich kind of emulate a mtp mount
[08:27] <DistroJockey> Jaffarkelshac: any error messages?
[08:27] <Esk10> i'm gonna say no because i'm not sure what a universe repo is
[08:27] <Jaffarkelshac> no file or directory
[08:27] <gyaresu> Esk10: I'm running gutsy & using the opera.com mirror: deb http://deb.opera.com/opera etch non-free
[08:27] <evan_> gyaresu, its usefull for creative mp3´s
[08:27] <gyaresu> evan_: hardy?
[08:27] <DistroJockey> Jaffarkelshac: Firewall on in Windows?
[08:27] <EruditeHermit> hi, if there is a bug that says a "Fix is released" on launchpad, how do I find out what the fix was?
[08:28] <Esk10> that gave me a 403 error
[08:28] <evan_> gyaresu, yes but it can be used at gutsy too
[08:28] <gyaresu> !repos | Esk10
[08:28] <ubotu> Esk10: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[08:28] <Jaffarkelshac> just got it, i was trying it in the shell that did not work i just tried it in X (the gui under network)
[08:28] <agent> same problem when i use nvidia on the other card instead
[08:28] <Jaffarkelshac> and i can see it, how its asking for password
[08:28] <DistroJockey> Jaffarkelshac: Ahh, *nods*
[08:29] <DistroJockey> Jaffarkelshac: use an account you have on the Windows PC
[08:29] <gyaresu> Esk10: You can install opera via apt. The line i pasted above is for the opera.com 'debian' package. (it works but of course is unsupported software)
[08:29] <Esk10> alrighty
[08:29] <Esk10> thanks i'll try it out
[08:30] <sstoveld> Svenstaro, i seem to be having a display problem :(
[08:30] <Toznoshio> Q: is it normal for two applications to lock each other out of using the sound subsystem?
[08:30] <Jaffarkelshac> this ubuntu environment the explorer equivalent is it called X
[08:30] <gyaresu> evan_: Sorry dude. didn't realise... basketball in 20min. bye. gl.
[08:31] <rush2> Is it possible to install ubuntu using boot flash drive ? (without CD)
[08:31] <Toznoshio> rush2: yes, google up pendrivelinux
[08:31] <Jaffarkelshac> that is what i am using right now
[08:32] <evan_> gyaresu, ok np bye
[08:32] <DistroJockey> !X
[08:32] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:32] <rush2> Toznoshio: ok, I'll read - thanx
[08:33] <IsotropicSpin> hey, I have an AMD64, Nvidia GFX, freezing.... memcheck successful, must be that bug.... is there a "Quick Fix"? complete n00b here
[08:33] <agent> i don't even know what to google for here....
[08:34] <Svenstaro__> sstoveld you returned?
[08:34] <Svenstaro__> sstoveld whats the matter?
[08:34] <Iceman_B> Svenstaro__: I just pulled out and re-inserted my SATA cable on a whim, seems to have done the trick just now
[08:35] <sstoveld> Svenstaro, well when i booted up into ubuntu, my display is all messed up, i can barely make out some stuff to see it, but no chance on reading anything
[08:35] <Svenstaro__> Iceman_B nice going :)
[08:35] <Jaffarkelshac> is there realplayer for linux?
[08:35] <Marner> yes
[08:35] <Iceman_B> true :) still strange though. perhaps something it up with the VT8237 chipset
[08:35] <Iceman_B> meh, it's working so far
[08:35] <Svenstaro__> sstoveld Oh shoot, thats what I meant by no ATI love for ubuntu, anyway lets fix it
[08:35] <sstoveld> Svenstaro, ive got like the bottom third of my screen all black and ive got my desktop overlapping itself like 4 times going horizontally
[08:36] <Svenstaro__> sstoveld, I know what you mean, are you currently booted up like that?
[08:36] <sstoveld> Svenstaro, hehe ive lost my love for ATI also, gonna go nvidia next card i buy :D
[08:36] <sstoveld> Svenstaro, yes
[08:36] <Svenstaro__> sstoveld press CTRL ALT F2
[08:36] <Svenstaro__> if all runs well you'll get a text console
[08:36] <sstoveld> Svenstaro, yes, im there :)
[08:37] <sstoveld> Svenstaro, enter my login?
[08:37] <Svenstaro__> sure
[08:37] <agent> did i mention that i CAN log in (greeting)
[08:37] <sstoveld> Svenstaro, ok, now ive got something that kinda looks like terminal
[08:37] <majikins> hi - Ihave a question about vmware - I'd like to create an image of my existing xubuntu installation with all its settings
[08:38] <agent> then the background loads, then both screens show the bars (without text or icons), then the bars disappear
[08:38] <Svenstaro__> sstoveld, goodie, type "sudo apt-get install mc"
[08:38] <majikins> what is the best way to go about this?
[08:38] <Jaffarkelshac> is there a real player for linux
[08:38] <Svenstaro__> installs my favorite console based file browser :)
[08:38] <agent> the right click menu works for a minute, but then stops
[08:38] <kraut> moin
[08:38] <majikins> I've read that vmwareplayer can create an image as well?
[08:38] <sstoveld> Svenstaro, hehe ok, its going
[08:38] <sstoveld> Svenstaro, done
[08:39] <Svenstaro__> type "sudo mcedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:39] <agent> this only happens when screen 0 and 1 are using nvidia or screen 0 is running nv and 1 is running nvidia
[08:39] <sstoveld> Svenstaro, ok im in some blue screen now with some text
[08:40] <Jaffarkelshac> does linux have real player (trying to watch BBC click)
[08:40] <Svenstaro__> right, thats your Xservers file, the server responsible for drawing pretty graphics, which it obviously currently fails at
[08:40] <sstoveld> Svenstaro, haha, yes miserably :P
[08:40] <Svenstaro__> press F7 and search for (Section "Device")
[08:41] <Svenstaro__> like, enter everything in the brackets
[08:41] <agent> me?
[08:41] <sstoveld> Svenstaro, ok, there
[08:41] <majikins> hello - can anyone answer a vmware question?
[08:41] <tarkus> anyone running ubuntu on a laptop? im wondering how the battery life compares to windows?..
[08:41] <Svenstaro__> sstoveld, is there something called " driver "ati" " ?
[08:42] <mickpc> hello
[08:42] <sstoveld> i see Driver "vesa"
[08:42] <Svenstaro__> I see
[08:42] <Svenstaro__> okay, press F10, get ready for some typing
[08:42] <sstoveld> ok, ready :)
[08:42] <Svenstaro__> back on the console type "wget http://albertomilone.com/ubuntu/nvidia/scripts/legacy/envy_0.9.10-0ubuntu7_all.deb"
[08:43] <GEIS> how do i combine to hdd together into a single mount
[08:43] <jft> i have an acer and it's nearly the same time there
[08:43] <Svenstaro__> GEIS you want "LVM" probably
[08:43] <GEIS> can someone guide me to command line?
[08:43] <Jaffarkelshac> how do i get the menu-xdg to work after install
[08:44] <Svenstaro__> GEIS its pretty hard on the command line, also you will lose all data on the drives you want to combine
[08:44] <sstoveld> Svenstaro, done
[08:44] <Svenstaro__> sstoveld, okay, type "sudo dpkg -i envy_0.9.10-0ubuntu7_all.deb
[08:44] <Svenstaro__> it probably throws some errors at you
[08:45] <GEIS> so i cant combine both hdd to form a bigger / ?
[08:45] <bazhang> !envy
[08:45] <ubotu> envy is an unsupported tool to install newer versions of binary video drivers than provided by the official repositories. Use at your own risk, and remember that the latest version is not necessarily the "best". See « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[08:45] <Jaffarkelshac> how do i remove firefox plugins
[08:45] <bazhang> Svenstaro__: this channel kind of loathes envy
[08:45] <Svenstaro__> bazhang we had that a couple of times now :(
[08:45] <Svenstaro__> but it makes it pretty easy for now
[08:45] <sstoveld> Svenstaro, got a few problems, says dependancy problems prevent configuration of envy
[08:46] <sstoveld> then it goes on to list like 8 problems
[08:46] <Svenstaro__> yup, sudo apt-get install -f
[08:46] <sstoveld> k
[08:46] <GEIS> !lvm
[08:46] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[08:46] <bazhang> Svenstaro__: you really have done a stellar job of guiding him through this; but envy may cause issues when he upgrades his kernel for instance; just hope he is aware of it.
[08:46] <sstoveld> Svenstaro, asks to put in disc, i put in the disc i installed ubuntu with?
[08:47] <Svenstaro__> upgrading kernel already causes issues :(
[08:47] <GEIS> can i group 2 hdd together during installation?
[08:47] <Svenstaro__> sstoveld, oh yeah, were going to remove that repo, no dont insert it
[08:47] <Svenstaro__> GEIS, yes when installing alternate
[08:48] <Svenstaro__> sstoveld, do sudo mcedit /etc/apt/sources.list and put a # (numeric sign) in front of the Cd: entry
[08:48] <GEIS> Svenstaro__, how to can u explain to be like im a noob?
[08:48] <Svenstaro__> GEIS, well if youre ready to loose all the data i can guide you trhough it
[08:49] <GEIS> yep im ready
[08:49] <Svenstaro__> GEIS, you should read up on LVM a bit for yourself so you know what youre trying to do, know that if one disc fails the volume will fail
[08:49] <Svenstaro__> !lvm
[08:49] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[08:49] <sstoveld> Svenstaro, hm, when i typed that in it said some stuff, unpacking and some other stuff, now it asks me to insert the disc again, where do i put this #?
[08:50] <Svenstaro__> uhm
[08:50] <Svenstaro__> press ctrl + c first
[08:50] <Svenstaro__> then do sudo mcedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:50] <sstoveld> ah gotcha
[08:50] <Svenstaro__> okay, see where # has to go?
[08:51] <agent> my system log says a lot of "Putting AGP V2 device at 0000:00:00.0 into 4x mode
[08:51] <agent> agpgart :
[08:51] <Svenstaro__> agent how did you manage to find a system with 2 agp slots anyway?
[08:51] <Jaffarkelshac> h
[08:51] <sstoveld> i see where it says deb cdrom:
[08:51] <DistroJockey> GEIS: What sizes are the 2 hard drives?
[08:51] <Svenstaro__> right thats where it goes
[08:51] <GEIS> The server at www.tldp.org is taking too long to respond.
[08:51] <GEIS> can't access
[08:51] <agent> one agp one pci
[08:51] <sstoveld> put it infront of the deb? or after deb but before cdrom?
[08:52] <Svenstaro__> in front of the whole line
[08:52] <sstoveld> k
[08:52] <Jaffarkelshac> how do i enable menu-xdg
[08:52] <sstoveld> done
[08:52] <Svenstaro__> then press F10 and choose to save
[08:52] <sstoveld> done
[08:52] <Svenstaro__> then on console type "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install -f" and everything should be well
[08:53] <Svenstaro__> you just made ubuntu use internet ressources only and not depend on cdrom
[08:53] <tarkus> anyone running ubuntu on a laptop? im wondering how the battery life compares to in windows.
[08:53] <Svenstaro__> I'm tarkus
[08:53] <sstoveld> ooh
[08:53] <Svenstaro__> tarkus, about 3 hours when actively working, 2.5h when playing, 4-5h when wardriving :)
[08:53] <sstoveld> ok cool, how do i get back to my desktop?
[08:54] <Svenstaro__> sstoveld, not quite yet :) type "sudo envy -t"
[08:54] <Svenstaro__> if it asks, yes you want to install dependencies
[08:54] <tarkus> Svenstaro__, thanks, but that doesnt tell me much. i dont know what kind of battery, what kind of system.. i just need to know what is the rated battery life on your system (windows)?
[08:54] <sstoveld> oh haha ok
[08:55] <Svenstaro__> tarkus, 4.5h, but its an OLD battery
[08:55] <sstoveld> install the ATI driver?
[08:55] <Svenstaro__> yes
[08:55] <Svenstaro__> and hope, a lot
[08:55] <GEIS> how do i rename an whole entire mount point
[08:55] <arooni> ok team..... with xvidcap.... it records at 1280x1024.... but what video sharing site (free) can i upload at decent resolution?  the video looks pretty bad when i reduce it to 320x240 (youtube quality) .... or is there a better way to record?
[08:55] <tarkus> Svenstaro__, so would you say its about the same as windows? or would you say its better? worse?
[08:55] <sstoveld> *hopes* :D
[08:56] <Svenstaro__> arooni, find a FTP server
[08:56] <Addy> friend of mine is a faggot
[08:56] <Addy> [01:47:18] <Xlembros> Can any one be able to help me fix this , i installed ubuntu with all drive space and now i go and try to install window it says drive not found
[08:56] <GEIS> how do i rename an whole entire mount point
[08:56] <Svenstaro__> tarkus, I'd say that after you've compiled a custom slow-mo laptop kernel its better than windows, just be sure not to wake up the kernel too often by deactivating as many services as poss
[08:56] <bazhang> language Addy
[08:56] <Addy> Sorry.
[08:57] <tarkus> Addy, haha. thats funny
[08:57] <Addy> I laughed too.
[08:57] <tarkus> Svenstaro__, good to know, thanks.
[08:57] <Addy> he's been bugging us forever
[08:58] <Addy> [01:55:30] <Xlembros> like i said addy i could care less if it was mine but its not mine now i am helping some one even if you dont care about me getting it fixed think about how i was only doing it for some one else who wanted ubuntu
[08:58] <tarkus> lmao!!
[08:58] <tarkus> thats awesome
[08:58] <Addy> aha
[08:58] <sstoveld> Svenstaro, do i want my xorg.conf to be automatically configured?
[08:58] <Addy> there he is
[08:58] <Jaffarkelshac> does anyone not know how to use the menu-xdg
[08:58] <Svenstaro__> sstoveld, yes, prolly
[08:58] <Addy> I explained it to them wolf
[08:58] <GEIS> how do i rename an whole entire mount point
[08:58] <Xlembros> Can any one be able to help me fix this , i installed ubuntu with all drive space and now i go and try to install window it says drive not found
[08:58] <Addy> rather, I pasted what you said
[08:58] <sstoveld> ok now restart computer?
[08:59] <Svenstaro__> yes, and hope :)
[08:59] <tarkus> hahaha
[08:59] <sstoveld> here we go!
[08:59] <Addy> here's an idea
[08:59] <sstoveld> please please please!
[08:59] <Addy> read before you post
[08:59] <DistroJockey> GEIS: What mount point are you wanting to rename? And to what? And what device?
[08:59] <GEIS> mountpoint / to /example
[08:59] <bazhang> Xlembros: best to ask in ##windows; that will likely require a low-level format as it is a common issue with windows
[08:59] <tarkus> Addy, that is soo funny
[08:59] <ere4si> GEIS: the mount point will be a dir - rename that and any paths that link to it
[08:59] <Addy> :P
[08:59] <Xlembros> oh FFS
[09:00] <Addy> calm down
[09:00] <Addy> no one's here to wipe your ass
[09:00] <bazhang> language again Addy Xlembros
[09:00] <Addy> >_>
[09:00] <tarkus> :P
[09:00] <sstoveld> Svenstaro, ok i now get something telling me ubuntu is running in low graphics mode, this is where it messef up last time when i hit Configure
[09:01] <sstoveld> Svenstaro, should i just hit continue?
[09:01] <arooni> how can i learn what the length and window (of a firefox window are)?
[09:01] <Svenstaro__> prolly,
[09:01] <Svenstaro__> sstoveld yeah go ahead, we'll fix it on a seperate terminal again
[09:01] <sstoveld> woot! im in :D
[09:01] <sstoveld> ok cool
[09:01] <Svenstaro__> yes, but low graphics arent you?
[09:02] <sstoveld> Svenstaro, yes
[09:02] <DistroJockey> GEIS: hmm. Renaming / to /example is probably not a good idea
[09:02] <Svenstaro__> sstoveld, okay well better than nothing, prefer working here or in text console? we'll need to fix up X a bit
[09:03] <moonlight> hello, tell me please, what's the difference between apt and aptitude?
[09:03] <sstoveld> i prefer not using text console :P
[09:03] <Svenstaro__> moonlight, aptitude is a nice frontend for apt
[09:03] <Svenstaro__> sstoveld, okay then, open a terminal, sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:03] <DistroJockey> Svenstaro__: Nice than Synaptic?
[09:03] <Svenstaro__> depends :)
[09:03] <DistroJockey> nicer^
[09:04] <sstoveld> Svenstaro, done
[09:04] <Svenstaro__> scroll down to device section "device"
[09:05] <sstoveld> Svenstaro, Section "device" # ?
[09:05] <Svenstaro__> yes, paste the driver
[09:05] <sstoveld> "fglrx"
[09:05] <marazafi> JOIN #bordeaux
[09:06] <Svenstaro__> uhm do we have any ATI guys in here? we need some help
[09:06] <marshall4war> всем привет
[09:06] <sstoveld> hehe
[09:06] <sstoveld> i'm a bit of a hassle :P
[09:06] <Svenstaro__> dont worry we'll fix her up
[09:06] <Svenstaro__> oh i enjoy fixing problems
[09:06] <marshall4war> ой, не туда поапал ^^
[09:06] <Svenstaro__> can you post what screen says?
[09:06] <sstoveld> hehe, i used to
[09:06] <Svenstaro__> subsection display
[09:07] <DistroJockey> Svenstaro__, sstoveld: Running an ATI 9600 here, but am on Hardy atm
[09:07] <Svenstaro__> paste the modes
[09:07] <sstoveld> hmm, let me get on irc on desktop, easier
[09:07] <sstoveld> brb
[09:07] <Svenstaro__> k
[09:07] <moonlight> how to create an alias for an command?
[09:08] <Svenstaro__> put it into bashrc
[09:08] <Svenstaro__> there are some examples too
[09:08] <Svenstaro__> cat ~.bashrc
[09:08] <moonlight> anyone know.
[09:08] <Svenstaro__> DistroJockey, can you help us with the display modes?
[09:08] <sstoveld> Section "device" #
[09:08] <sstoveld> 	Identifier	"device1"
[09:08] <sstoveld> 	Boardname	"vesa"
[09:08] <sstoveld> 	Busid		"PCI:5:0:0"
[09:08] <sstoveld> 	Driver		"fglrx"
[09:08] <sstoveld> 	Screen	1
[09:08] <FloodBot2> sstoveld: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:08] <sstoveld> 	Option		"VideoOverlay"	"on"
[09:08] <Svenstaro__> moonlight, nano ~.bashrc
[09:09] <moonlight> thanx
[09:09] <sstoveld> oops :(
[09:09] <DistroJockey> Svenstaro__: Can try
[09:09] <Svenstaro__> sstoveld, please just paste what the subsection "display" in "screen" tells you
[09:10] <Svenstaro__> and dont paste too much, FloodBot2 will hate you
[09:10] <sstoveld> hehe ok
[09:10] <sstoveld> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60963/
[09:11] <Svenstaro__> okay, when youre going for pastebin just paste it all, the whole xorg.conf
[09:11] <sstoveld> k
[09:11] <Svenstaro__> DistroJockey can you help us on this one a bit?
[09:11] <DistroJockey> Svenstaro__: Yep, was about to ask for the whole lot also :)
[09:11] <sstoveld> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60964/
[09:13] <DistroJockey> Svenstaro__, sstoveld: Messy :(
[09:13] <Svenstaro__> whats your first screens native resolution, sstoveld?
[09:13] <sstoveld> 1280x1024
[09:13] <Svenstaro__> at ?
[09:13] <sstoveld> ?
[09:13] <Svenstaro__> 70hz?
[09:13] <DistroJockey> Hz
[09:13] <sstoveld> oh my bad, 60 i believe
[09:13] <Svenstaro__> goodie
[09:13] <Svenstaro__> okay lets try something
[09:14] <sstoveld> k
[09:14] <Svenstaro__> DistroJockey, ATI is the open source driver isnt it?
[09:14] <Svenstaro__> while fglrx is the closed one?
[09:14] <DistroJockey> Svenstaro__: Best to use the OS one, yeah
[09:14] <Svenstaro__> lets try ATI then
[09:15] <Svenstaro__> sstoveld, on a terminal run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg"
[09:15] <agent> speaking of.... see anything wrong with http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60965/ ?
[09:16] <Svenstaro__> sstoveld, did that just kill your X?
[09:16] <Svenstaro__> :S
[09:17] <DistroJockey> Svenstaro__, Svenstaro__: My working(I think) xorg.conf from Debian:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60966/
[09:17] <sstoveld> umm
[09:17] <sstoveld> it didnt really do anything i dont think
[09:17] <hischild_> how can i move all the files recursively out of a folder?
[09:17] <sstoveld> xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly-customised configuration
[09:17] <sstoveld>    file; backup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.20080325051656
[09:17] <Svenstaro__> that ones got AILX in there, we dont want that yet, lets just make it working
[09:17] <DistroJockey> *nods*
[09:18] <Svenstaro__> k, sstoveld, run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:18] <Svenstaro__> notice this we leave the -phigh aside
[09:18] <sstoveld> k, choose yes?
[09:18] <sstoveld> attempt to detect video hardware
[09:18] <Svenstaro__> yes
[09:18] <Svenstaro__> what does it choose?
[09:19] <sstoveld> ati
[09:19] <Svenstaro__> goodie
[09:19] <Svenstaro__> okay,
[09:19] <sstoveld> :P
[09:19] <Svenstaro__> next?
[09:20] <sstoveld> k i hit ok a few times
[09:20] <delpierro_147613> hi @ all
[09:20] <sstoveld> now it says Video card's bus identifier:
[09:20] <sstoveld> PCI:5:0:0
[09:20] <Svenstaro__> that ones okay
[09:21] <Svenstaro__> memory amount, leave that empty
[09:21] <sstoveld> amount of memory to be used by the
[09:21] <sstoveld> k
[09:21] <hischild_> i have a project of about 4000 files, split into multiple directories. How can i move all the files from those directories into another, without keeping the directory tree?
[09:21] <Svenstaro__> kernel buffer, leave at default
[09:21] <sstoveld> auto detect keyboard layout
[09:21] <delpierro_147613> can speak german
[09:21] <DistroJockey> Svenstaro__,sstoveld: My openSUSE Live CD xorg.conf for reference:   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60968/
[09:22] <hischild_> !de | delpierro_147613
[09:22] <ubotu> delpierro_147613: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[09:22] <Svenstaro__> hischild_, for file in 'ls -lhar'; do mv /new/dir/*.*; done <- no gurrantee
[09:22] <hischild_> Svenstaro__, that's ok, i have 2 local copies already so that'll be gd
[09:22] <sstoveld> XKB rule set to use?
[09:23] <Svenstaro__> xorg
[09:23] <sstoveld> keyboard model?
[09:23] <Svenstaro__> choose default till you get to monitor
[09:23] <sstoveld> k
[09:23] <RagonichaFulva> Hi everyone
[09:23] <Svenstaro__> we dont care about its name, but be careful to choose the correct resolutions
[09:24] <Svenstaro__> I suggest you tick 1280x1024, 1024x768, 800x600 and continue
[09:24] <sstoveld> attempt monitor autodetection?
[09:24] <Svenstaro__> yes
[09:25] <sstoveld> k
[09:25] <RagonichaFulva> I wonder if someone could help me with this small doubt. I am using this command: cp -ax . /mnt/home in order to move my /home directotry to another partition. I checked man cp but I don't understand what -x and "." do.
[09:26] <sstoveld> method for selecting monitor characteristics?
[09:26] <Svenstaro__> medium
[09:26] <Svenstaro__> then choose 1280x1024@60
[09:26] <mickpc> can someone help out with qjackctl
[09:26] <syphilis> bok hrvati
[09:26] <sstoveld> write monitor sync ranges to the configuration file?
[09:27] <Svenstaro__> yes
[09:27] <DistroJockey> sstoveld: Sounds good :)
[09:27] <Svenstaro__> bitdepth 24
[09:27] <syphilis> how do I see list of other chatrooms
[09:27] <Svenstaro__> now paste your xorg.conf again
[09:27] <sstoveld> k
[09:27] <Svenstaro__> syphilis "/list"
[09:27] <syphilis> thx (Y)
[09:28] <Svenstaro__> I feel like a help ninja today
[09:28] <DistroJockey> :)
[09:28] <Svenstaro__> way to many good deeds alright
[09:28] <Svenstaro__> time to go commit some sins
[09:28] <DistroJockey> can never have too many :)
[09:28] <sstoveld> You appear to be spamming the pastebin. I hate spammers so I won't let you. If you're not attempting to spam, please enable javascript so you can pass the antispam check
[09:28] <DistroJockey> :(
[09:29] <DistroJockey> rude
[09:29] <sstoveld> haha svenstaro, youre a huge help :D
[09:29] <sstoveld> yeah i know :P
[09:29] <Steffan> Hi, for my wireless network i have to set the 'encryption' to 'wpa enterprise' but that one is not in my list. Where can i find that option?
[09:29] <anaoum> im looking for a west coast datacenter for an ubuntu dedicated server
[09:30] <anaoum> the cheaper the better
[09:30] <anaoum> anyone help out?
[09:30] <Svenstaro__> anaoum, uhm, there are plenty I reckon
[09:30] <sstoveld> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60971/
[09:30] <anaoum> that is the problem
[09:30] <Svenstaro__> sstoveld, that ones, lame, just enable jscript
[09:30] <sadsack> hi. Have a problem booting XP from grub startup menu. I've tryed following guides but they don't appear to fit my problem and i don't get error message, so not even sure what the problem
[09:30] <anaoum> if anyone has some recommendations it would be great :D
[09:31] <Svenstaro__> anaoum, im using hetzner and theyre the best, but only in germany :)
[09:31] <DistroJockey> sstoveld: Much cleaner :)
[09:31] <sstoveld> hehe :D
[09:31] <Svenstaro__> sstoveld, definately looks good
[09:31] <T-R3xX> who from russia?
[09:32] <Svenstaro__> well give it a go then shall we, sstoveld press ALT CTRL BACKSPACE, it kills your xserver and restarts it
[09:32] <DistroJockey> sstoveld: Looks good to me
[09:32] <vallhalla81> how do you change the name of your pc (note not user name)
[09:32] <Svenstaro__> vallhalla81, sudo hostname newhostnamehere
[09:32] <vallhalla81> Svenstaro__: thank you
[09:33] <sstoveld> lol
[09:33] <sstoveld> was it supposed to log me out? :P
[09:33] <Svenstaro__> funny colors again?
[09:33] <Svenstaro__> yes
[09:33] <T-R3xX> Êòî íèòü ïî ðóññêè ãîâîðèò? =)
[09:33] <Svenstaro__> did it work?
[09:33] <Fenixon> hhello, how to run *.run file?
[09:33] <sstoveld> still in the same graphics mode, if thats what you mean, should i configure it manually?
[09:33] <dgjones> !ru | T-R3xX
[09:33] <ubotu> T-R3xX: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[09:34] <Svenstaro__> Fenixon, sh *.run
[09:34] <DistroJockey> sstoveld: messed graphics?
[09:34] <Fenixon> Svenstaro__: thanks
[09:34] <T-R3xX> =) senks
[09:34] <sstoveld> yeah it still is messed
[09:34] <DistroJockey> :(
[09:34] <Svenstaro__> sstoveld, as in low ress or utter color mess?
[09:34] <sstoveld> low res
[09:35] <vallhalla81> Svenstaro__: does it require a restart to take affect?
[09:35] <Svenstaro__> sstoveld, did it notify you about running low ress?
[09:35] <Svenstaro__> vallhalla81, yes
[09:35] <sstoveld> Svenstaro, nope
[09:35] <vallhalla81> Svenstaro__: ok thank you
[09:35] <Meneertje> hi all, how do you make a backup section which you can use to save all your settings and stuff, that you can use when installing a new version?
[09:35] <Svenstaro__> sstoveld good :) go to system -> admin -> resolution, can you choose different rss there?
[09:35] <Meneertje> like "D" drive in windows
[09:36] <Svenstaro__> Meneertje, you mean a partition?
[09:36] <DistroJockey> Svenstaro__: beat me to it :)
[09:36] <Meneertje> yep
[09:36] <Svenstaro__> Meneertje, dont you ahve a usb key or external hdd or something?
[09:36] <Meneertje> with gparted?
[09:36] <Svenstaro__> no, like, do you own a usb key? physicially?
[09:36] <sstoveld> nope, its at 800x600 at 73Hz right now, can only go to 640x480, and cant change the Hz
[09:36] <lanoxx> can someone point me to a simple introduction on how to set up an ftp server with one user and read write access to a certain directory?
[09:37] <DistroJockey> Svenstaro__: Although, I was going to say System - Preferences - Screen Resolution
[09:37] <sstoveld> :P
[09:38] <Svenstaro__> sstoveld, sounds bad. something still deosnt want to play nice, can you check if /etc/X11/xorg.conf is still the same as the one you pastebinned?
[09:38] <sstoveld> how do i get back to it again?
[09:38] <Svenstaro__> sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:39] <Svenstaro__> DistroJockey, is it not accepting the driver?
[09:39] <sstoveld> k, do you still have the link to the pastebin i linked?
[09:39] <Svenstaro__> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60971/
[09:40] <sstoveld> yup, its the same
[09:40] <DistroJockey> Svenstaro__: should accept ATI or radeon just fine
[09:40] <Svenstaro__> okay, scroll down to section monitor
[09:40] <Svenstaro__> should we try radeon?
[09:40] <Svenstaro__> are there like, 3 drivers? ati, radeon, fglrx?
[09:40] <DistroJockey> Svenstaro__: radeon if it's a radeon of course
[09:41] <DistroJockey> yup
[09:41] <DistroJockey> think radeon is ATI anyway
[09:41] <Svenstaro__> sstoveld, scroll down to section monitor and remove the lines horizsync and vertrefresh
[09:41] <DistroJockey> as in the same driver, different name
[09:41] <Svenstaro__> you positive about that?
[09:41] <DistroJockey> nope
[09:41] <sstoveld> k, then save?
[09:42] <Svenstaro__> which ones the closed source driver?
[09:42] <hischild_> DistroJockey, afaik it's fglrx
[09:42] <hischild_> Svenstaro__, ^
[09:42] <adac> can someone tell me: what can i do with this flash player under ubuntu amd64? it keeps on crashing and one single very low quality stream (not even running, paused) eats my cpu...this is freaking me out
[09:42] <Svenstaro__> yes, and press the shortcut again sstoveld
[09:42] <Svenstaro__> and hope :)
[09:42] <DistroJockey> closed is FGLRX, yep
[09:42] <sstoveld> ctrl alt backspace right?
[09:42] <Svenstaro__> yes
[09:42] <DistroJockey> we're going OS :)
[09:43] <Svenstaro__> I dont get his trouble
[09:43] <sstoveld> still cant change res :(
[09:43] <Svenstaro__> aw man, lets go closed source, go to xorg.conf again
[09:44] <Svenstaro__> and in the driver section, change ATI to fglrx
[09:44] <DistroJockey> Svenstaro__, sstoveld:  Did we cover what version of Ubuntu is being used?
[09:44] <Svenstaro__> 7.10
[09:44] <DistroJockey> k
[09:44] <Svenstaro__> I know ur using hardy
[09:44] <sstoveld> k im in xorg
[09:44] <DistroJockey> will, switch, brb
[09:44] <Svenstaro__> driver section
[09:46] <sstoveld> where do i go in xorg.conf? section "device"?
[09:46] <Svenstaro__> yes, in there theres a option called "driver" with the value "ATI"
[09:46] <Svenstaro__> change the value to FGLRX
[09:46] <Svenstaro__> but in lowercase
[09:47] <sstoveld> k
[09:47] <sstoveld> save?
[09:47] <Svenstaro__> yup and shortcut :)
[09:47] <sstoveld> k
[09:48] <sstoveld> *hopes* :D
[09:48] <sstoveld> nope :*
[09:48] <sstoveld> :(*
[09:48] <Svenstaro__> sstoveld aw man
[09:49] <Svenstaro__> sstoveld running outta tricks here
[09:49] <sstoveld> damn
[09:49] <sstoveld> maybe i should try and reinstall ubuntu?
[09:49] <Svenstaro__> well lets try software, anybody know how high VESA can render max?
[09:49] <Svenstaro__> no, not quite yet
[09:49] <Svenstaro__> anybody know max resolution VESA can do?
[09:50] <Smegzor> I want to force a distribution upgrade from 7.10 to 8.04  What do I type in console?
[09:50] <Svenstaro__> sstoveld, in xorg.conf, edit out all modes for your display except 1280x1024
[09:50] <sstoveld> k lemme try it
[09:51] <Svenstaro__> how can I make sure x isnt using failsafe? does it ALWAYS use xorg.conf?
[09:52] <sstoveld> Modes		"1280x1024" "1280x960" "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
[09:52] <sstoveld> delete all but the first one?
[09:52] <frame08> hiiiiiii
[09:52] <Svenstaro__> yes
[09:52] <sstoveld> save and shortcut?
[09:52] <frame08> asl pls
[09:53] <DistroJockey> Svenstaro__, sstoveld: Clean xorg.conf from 7.10:   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60975/
[09:53] <Jack_Sparrow> !upgrade
[09:53] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[09:53] <Smegzor> thanks
[09:53] <Svenstaro__> yes, sstoveld
[09:54] <Svenstaro__> somehow it seems like his xorg isnt even being used
[09:54] <DistroJockey> hmm
[09:54] <Jack_Sparrow> Ati video?
[09:54] <Svenstaro__> yes
[09:54] <DistroJockey> yup
[09:54] <Svenstaro__> a bad case of it
[09:54] <sstoveld> no good :(
[09:54] <Jack_Sparrow> I ran across this yesterday..  one sec..
[09:54] <Svenstaro__> sstoveld, hang on a bit, were all here to help ya
[09:55] <DistroJockey> :)
[09:55] <Jack_Sparrow> fglrx seems to ignore some changes unless this is used.. aticonfig --input=/etc/X11/xorg.conf --tls=1
[09:55] <sstoveld> hehe i feel bad making all you guys stay up just to help me :P
[09:55] <Jack_Sparrow> May I assume fglrx?
[09:55] <Jack_Sparrow> Is his xorg posted.
[09:56] <sstoveld> want me to pastebin it?
[09:56] <DistroJockey> It's ok, I fix'em buy day, and night I guess :)
[09:56] <sstoveld> hehe
[09:56] <sstoveld> 6 am here now :S
[09:56] <Jack_Sparrow> sstoveld, yes please, 3am here.. I wont be up long
[09:56] <DistroJockey> 8pm here
[09:56] <Svenstaro__> 11 AM :D
[09:56] <sstoveld> :O
[09:56] <Jack_Sparrow> We just proved the world is round
[09:56] <DistroJockey> :)
[09:56] <sstoveld> hehe
[09:57] <sstoveld> gonna be fun at work tomorrow... err today :P
[09:57] <D|sToRt|oN> man i installed satanic edition and my sys would not boot i had to format :(
[09:58] <Svenstaro__> D|sToRt|oN thats what you get :P
[09:58] <Jack_Sparrow> !mint
[09:58] <ubotu> The following are some examples of Ubuntu derived distributions that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes, please consult their websites for more information: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (support in #linuxmint), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), Ubuntu Ultimate
[09:58] <DistroJockey> going to try Sidux again here next :)
[09:58] <Jack_Sparrow> sstoveld, You have that xorg pastebin'd yet
[09:58] <D|sToRt|oN> these stock ubuntu themes are so bland tho ...
[09:58] <sstoveld> hmm when i clicked this one icon at the top right i got some message saying software index is broken
[09:59] <Jack_Sparrow> apt-get update              or fix your sources
[09:59] <D|sToRt|oN> 8.04 is buggy as all get out ^^ i was being spammed with bug reports
[09:59] <Jack_Sparrow> !Hardy
[09:59] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[09:59] <DistroJockey> sstoveld: apt-get update && apt-get install -f   to fix it?
[09:59] <sstoveld> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60976/
[10:00] <hischild_> D|sToRt|oN, no problem on this end, i'm runing it smoothly
[10:00] <D|sToRt|oN> well try it out with Virtual box and Qdvdauthor ....
[10:01] <Jack_Sparrow> sstoveld, I had one of those yesterday and we never did figure out why it wouldnt work..   what does fglrxinfo show
[10:01] <sstoveld> sudo apt-get install -f
[10:01] <sstoveld> oops
[10:01] <D|sToRt|oN> brb this gnome Xchat front end suxs ^^
[10:01] <Jack_Sparrow> wrong terminal
[10:02] <sstoveld> :P
[10:02] <sstoveld> eh it didnt fix it anyway
[10:02] <sstoveld> said i got an error code(1)
[10:02] <DistroJockey> :(
[10:02] <Jack_Sparrow> sstoveld, sudo apt-get install pastebinit  && cat /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit (Provide Pastebin link in channel)
[10:03] <Jack_Sparrow> !aptfix
[10:03] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[10:03] <DistroJockey> Jack_Sparrow: Nice looking command :)
[10:04] <Jack_Sparrow> DistroJockey, Some of mine get quite ugly as I piece them together from my notes.. ofen in a hurry to help a user
[10:04] <Svenstaro__> sstoveld please dont assume that ubuntu installs are usually connected to this amount of hassle :)
[10:04] <sstoveld> hehe
[10:04] <DistroJockey> Jack_Sparrow: :)
[10:04] <sstoveld> i was wondering about it :P
[10:04] <Jack_Sparrow> sstoveld, You have one of the hardest cards we run across
[10:04] <sunny1> how to get the nice termial fonts (in Konsole under X) when in framebuffer mode...i.e., inittab we have default runlevel = 3
[10:05] <Svenstaro__> sstoveld lets just try vesa :) change the xorg.conf driver to VESA from fglrx and do the shortcut
[10:05] <sstoveld> figures, i always buy pieces of crap ;)
[10:05] <D|STORT|ON> i love how fast my comp is with 50 windows open :D sure beats Winblows
[10:05] <sstoveld> k 1 min
[10:05] <vallhalla81> my system keeps freezing up and i cant work out why please advise
[10:05] <Svenstaro__> anbyody know max VESA ressolution?
[10:05] <Jack_Sparrow> sstoveld, I am going to bed real soon, I asked a couple of questions still unanswered
[10:05] <Jack_Sparrow> 1024x768
[10:05] <Svenstaro__> crap!
 may be your Pc is overheating ?
[10:06] <sstoveld> sorry, i didnt see them :(
[10:06] <DistroJockey> Jack_Sparrow: The adding pastebin should be in the topic. Very nice!
[10:06] <Jack_Sparrow> DistroJockey, cool tool
[10:06] <Svenstaro__> sstoveld, cut that, we need both displays at higher ress
[10:06] <DistroJockey> Jack_Sparrow: indeed
[10:06] <hischild_> D|STORT|ON, i don't have any trouble with virtuablx.
[10:06] <vallhalla81> D|STORT|ON: no temp is low it was the first thin i checked
[10:06] <sstoveld> oh, dont change it to vesa?
[10:06] <Svenstaro__> no, wont do any good
[10:06] <Jack_Sparrow> sudo apt-get install pastebinit  && cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | pastebinit (Provide Pastebin link in channel)   is a good one
[10:06] <Svenstaro__> well it will work at a *tad* higher ress, still not what you want tho
[10:07] <noclue> i'm having a frustrating problem with video playback. it's hard for me to explain, but i have a screenshot if anyone's interesting in helping. http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/2870/badvideoea6.png
[10:07] <Jack_Sparrow> vallhalla81, what video card and or driver.. any outside sources added?
[10:07] <Jack_Sparrow> noclue, if you have ati and video is tearing you need to disable compiz in the xorg
[10:07] <Jack_Sparrow> composite
[10:07] <D|STORT|ON> i upgrade from 7.10 to 8.04 and had crash repor after crash report , um the hardware test was smooth tho i started getting these crash reports when i opend firefox 3 beta
[10:07] <sstoveld>  sudo apt-get install pastebinit  && cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | pastebinit (Provide Pastebin link in channel)   is a good one, Jack_Sparrow, was that to me?
[10:08] <vallhalla81> nvidia card and glx
[10:08] <noclue> Jack_Sparrow: i have NVIDIA and composite disabled. ;)
[10:08] <Svenstaro__> this ati is giving me headaches
[10:08] <Jack_Sparrow> D|STORT|ON, Please note you are in the wrong channel for Hardy..
[10:08] <D|STORT|ON> oh
[10:08] <D|STORT|ON> k
[10:08] <DistroJockey> Jack_Sparrow, vallhalla81: or run it on display :1 instead of :0  ?
[10:08] <sunny1> can someone help we with console fonts please
[10:08] <Jack_Sparrow> sstoveld, no.. just tossing some examples of usefull pastebin commands
[10:09] <sstoveld> oh ok
[10:09] <Svenstaro__> sstoveld, go to system admin and choose restricted drivers
[10:09] <Jack_Sparrow> sstoveld, did you run fglrxinfo ?
[10:09] <vallhalla81> DistroJockey: how do i do that?
[10:09] <sstoveld> Jack_Sparrow, what is fglrxinfo? :S
[10:10] <Jack_Sparrow> DistroJockey, you can also get vreative   sudo apt-get install pastebinit  && cp /etc/fstab ~/Desktop/Partition_Layout.txt && sudo fdisk -l >> ~/Desktop/Partition_Layout.txt && cat /home/$USER/Desktop/Partition_Layout.txt | pastebinit  (Provide Pastebin link in channel)
[10:10] <Jack_Sparrow> creative
[10:10] <sstoveld> Svenstaro, there is one in there, says its In Use
[10:10] <sstoveld> ATI Accelerated Graphics Driver
[10:10] <Jack_Sparrow> sstoveld, a command you type in terminal
[10:10] <Svenstaro__> *sigh*
[10:11] <brunner> how stable is hurdy?
[10:11] <D|STORT|ON> whats the command  to join multiple IRC servers it was /server -m irc.*****.**
[10:11] <Jack_Sparrow> !hardy
[10:11] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[10:11] <DistroJockey> vallhalla81:  glxgears -display :1   (for example)
[10:11] <tam-sco> hi
[10:11] <sstoveld> The program 'fglrxinfo' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[10:11] <sstoveld> sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[10:11] <brunner> Jack_Sparrow: I mean, in practical terms, is X going to break randomly with an upgrade, or is it just less stable non-core packages?
[10:11] <Jack_Sparrow> do that..yes
[10:12] <brunner> I remember Debian testing would randomly have horrible issues
[10:12] <brunner> that broke X
[10:12] <brunner> often
[10:12] <brunner> but Ubuntu seems so much more stable, is gutsy is any measure
[10:12] <Jack_Sparrow> brunner, If in doubt, dual boot Gutsy and Hardy
[10:12] <sstoveld> Errors were encountered while processing:
[10:12] <sstoveld>  /var/cache/apt/archives/xorg-driver-fglrx_7.1.0-8.37.6+2.6.22.4-14.10_amd64.deb
[10:12] <sstoveld> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[10:12] <noclue> no one has an idea huh?
[10:12] <brunner> Jack_Sparrow: are people using Hardy as their daily distro?
[10:13] <DistroJockey> vallhalla81: You probably won't get any window decorations, but it may play better
[10:13] <Jack_Sparrow> brunner, yes, quite a few
[10:13] <Svenstaro__> sstoveld, what does sudo apt-get update get you?
[10:13] <DistroJockey> me me me :)
[10:13] <Jack_Sparrow> sstoveld, Are you running ubuntu 64 bit?
[10:13] <sstoveld> Jack_Sparrow yes
[10:13] <brunner> DistroJockey: have you had any major issues?
[10:13] <tam-sco> need some explaination installing ubuntu from a MSF OS without any CD drive
[10:13] <Svenstaro__> sstoveld, you were running ubuntu x64 all the time and didnt tell me? :(
[10:14] <DistroJockey> brunner: not really, bit buggy on shutdown and a little Java issue so far
[10:14] <Jack_Sparrow> sstoveld, I usually recommend that new users stick with 32bit until they get a handle on how things are done in linux/ubuntu...
[10:14] <D|STORT|ON> MSF OS ?
[10:14] <brunner> DistroJockey: excellent. thanks!
[10:14] <sstoveld> oh man... seriously?
[10:14] <tam-sco> MSF == microsoft
[10:14] <DistroJockey> brunner: np :)
[10:14] <vallhalla81> do you think it may be because i am runnin standard distro on a 64 box?
[10:14] <Jack_Sparrow> Svenstaro__, :)
[10:14] <Svenstaro__> sstoveld is x64 requirement for oyu?
[10:14] <sstoveld> wow, my bad...
[10:14] <Jack_Sparrow> vallhalla81, no, 32 bit on 64 box is fine
[10:14] <Svenstaro> that would have saved us headaches big time
[10:15] <brunner> I love 64-bit ubuntu.  The only issue I've had is that the Flash hack of a plugin crashes occasionally, but it's not too often
[10:15] <sstoveld> well no, at the ubuntu website it asked what kind of processor i have
[10:15] <sstoveld> so i chose x64
[10:15] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, is there any reason you want x64?
[10:15] <sstoveld> im sorry guys, i didnt realize
[10:15] <sstoveld> nope
[10:15] <Jack_Sparrow> sstoveld, I understand...  not a biggie..
[10:15] <DistroJockey> I've had very bad experience with 64bit, so I stick with 32
[10:15] <brunner> slight performance gain?
[10:15] <Svenstaro> sstoveld I dont think you could have known, its just that 32bit makes things a whole lot easier for new users
[10:15] <sstoveld> ok so go download 32 bit?
[10:15] <brunner> DistroJockey: what was your experience?
[10:15] <Svenstaro> yes
[10:15] <Lamego> I have no problems using 64 bits
[10:16] <brunner> same here
[10:16] <Svenstaro> this time it will most liekely work like intented sstoveld
[10:16] <sstoveld> hehe
[10:16] <Jack_Sparrow> brunner, agreed, slight performance gain.. but for a new user it can get more complicated
[10:16] <brunner> (almost) no problems with 64-bit ubuntu... just the minor flash issue
[10:16] <sstoveld> my bad again guys, really sorry
[10:16] <brunner> Jack_Sparrow: fair enough
[10:16] <DistroJockey> brunner: it not working :) Was a while ago, so I forget the specifics.
[10:16] <Svenstaro> sstoveld its okay
[10:16] <D|STORT|ON> brunner my exsperience with 64bit in xp x64 bit there was one hellova performance gain when it came to multitasking
[10:16] <Svenstaro> sstoveld this way you learned some nice console commands at least
[10:16] <Lamego> sstoveld, what is your problem ? I am not seeing a relation with the 64 bits
[10:17] <DistroJockey> brunner: and don't have 64bit CPU at home, so havn'nt played in that realm much
[10:17] <Jack_Sparrow> Lamego, agreed, his problem is not related to 64 bit
[10:17] <Svenstaro> Lamego, there is a huge problem doing ATI and x64 for a newbie
[10:17] <brunner> hmm... I have three Screens show up in "Screen and Graphics Preferences"... is there any way to identify them?
[10:17] <brunner> I'm using a new laptop
[10:17] <brunner> I haven't plugged in an external monitor yet
[10:17] <Lamego> Svenstaro, uh ? What is the difference when using the repository driver ?
[10:17] <tam-sco> anyone?
[10:18] <Jack_Sparrow> Lamego, question, if someone has installed with wubi and they need to run a livecd to make an edit is it possible
[10:18] <brunner> and on my last computer, I used nvidia-config as well, which won't work anymore since this is Intel graphics
[10:18] <Svenstaro> Lamego that it simply doesnt work and there are lots of problems in conjunction with ACPI
[10:18] <sstoveld> haha, yeah, new commands always nice to learn :D
[10:18] <sstoveld> ok what do i need to download to be able to burn this iso?
[10:18] <brunner> sstoveld: if you want to learn one someone else's computer, grab a shell at silenceisdefeat.org
[10:18] <sstoveld> is there something already installed here?
[10:18] <Lamego> Jack_Sparrow, I don't use wubi myself, but yes, you can loopback mount it
[10:18] <Svenstaro> sstoveld "k3b" is what you want
[10:18] <brunner> that way you don't risk messing anything up
[10:19] <brunner> s/one/on
[10:19] <Lamego> Svenstaro, I had ATI with 64 bits without any issues
[10:19] <DistroJockey> brunner: I guess the one you are using is the one listed in  Section "ServerLayout"  in your xorg.conf
[10:19] <sstoveld> ok, look for it in synaptic?
[10:19] <Svenstaro> Lamego then you might just be able to help us here with sstoveld
[10:19] <noclue> anyone had issues with artifacts during video playback with nvidia-glx?
[10:19] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, yes
[10:19] <Jack_Sparrow> Lamego, HOw is that going to help a livecd access the files on a wubi install
[10:19] <Svenstaro> noclue, not here
[10:19] <brunner> DistroJockey: well, I know I'm using Screen 1 at the moment... I just don't know which screen is my VGA out
[10:20] <brunner> I guess I could tell it to mirror and see what happens
[10:20] <warrendae> hi, is there a channel for hardy?
[10:20] <Jack_Sparrow> YEs, ubuntu+1
[10:20] <foldart> warrendae: #ubuntu+1
[10:20] <warrendae> ok
[10:20] <SimonLarsen> Hey guys.
[10:20] <DistroJockey> brunner: Not played with multiple monitors yet, sorry
[10:21] <warrendae> thanks
[10:21] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[10:21] <brunner> no worries =]
[10:21] <DistroJockey> brunner: but it should be listed somewhere in xorg.conf
[10:21] <SimonLarsen> I did a .. /dbus restart and suddenly all network is gone. The nm-applet icon looks like it's connected to a wired network, but it's not.
[10:22] <SimonLarsen> Any suggestions? :)
[10:22] <brunner> I wish it were possible to enable secondary screens without restarting X =/
[10:22] <Svenstaro> SimonLarsen /etc/init.d/networking restart
[10:22] <Lamego> Jack_Sparrow, an wubi install is a file based FS that you can mount an access to, just as you do with a regular partition
[10:22] <DistroJockey> brunner: Xorg 7.3 should do that I think ? Anyone?
[10:23] <Jack_Sparrow> Lamego, how do you mount a file based ubuntu install from a livecd
[10:23] <SimonLarsen> Svenstaro: Thanks. Couldn't remember it. (Used to Suse)
[10:23] <Svenstaro> SimonLarsen never use Suse again :)
[10:23] <Lamego> Jack_Sparrow, uh ? mount -o loopack ?
[10:24] <Lamego> after mouting the ntfs partition ?
[10:24] <DistroJockey> Svenstaro: I'll be installing it when 11 is out :)
[10:24] <Svenstaro> All ubuntu cds kinda work with one file through squashfs
[10:24] <SimonLarsen> Svenstaro: I never will. ^^
[10:24] <sstoveld> ok guys, burning x32bit now
[10:24] <Svenstaro> DistroJockey, dont please, its a horrible abomination
[10:24] <Jack_Sparrow> Lamego, I would appreciate a link and full examples.  now that it is supported. we will need that..
[10:25] <Condor> ciao
[10:25] <DistroJockey> Svenstaro: 10.3 was nice till 1-click install broke. Not that it was ever a 1 click affair
[10:25] <Condor> hello i have a problem with ubuntu
[10:25] <brunner> Xorg 7.3 was the only reason I was interested in upgrading to Hardy
[10:25] <brunner> Condor: tell us
[10:25] <Condor> help me
[10:26] <Condor> hello brunner
[10:26] <brunner> Condor: Ask your question! Don't ask to ask, please
[10:26] <Condor> i am italian boy
[10:26] <Jack_Sparrow> !ask | Condor
[10:26] <ubotu> Condor: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[10:26] <vallhalla81> !ita
[10:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ita - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:26] <sstoveld> Svenstaro, when i install this, will i have to delete the quiet splash stuff again?
[10:26] <Condor> speak italian?
[10:26] <Jack_Sparrow> !it
[10:26] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[10:26] <Svenstaro> sstoveld most liekely not, hopefully :)
[10:26] <sstoveld> :D
[10:26] <Jack_Sparrow> Condor, but since you speak english, you are also welcome here
[10:27] <Condor> thank you
[10:27] <Svenstaro> sstoveld this is a issue caused by ubuntu usplash fixed in hardy tho
[10:27] <Svenstaro> sstoveld be aware that your screen may go idle again and you have to interact to wake it up
[10:27] <FYI> any good graphing calculators for linux?
[10:27] <Svenstaro> qalculate!
[10:28] <sstoveld> ok finished burning, any quick easy way of doing this? or same as last time
[10:28] <Jack_Sparrow> sstoveld, one sec
[10:28] <Svenstaro> sstoveld what do you mean ?
[10:28] <Jack_Sparrow> sstoveld, Make note of this..   At start or install press F6 and remove Quiet and Splash from the command line. If it still fails.. Repeat and after removing quiet and splash add noapic acpi=off before the "--"
[10:28] <sstoveld> do i just retart and boot from cd and do that again? or can i just run the cd from ubuntu?
[10:28] <DistroJockey> sstoveld: Got a spare HDD to play with?
[10:29] <FYI> does qalculate graph?
[10:29] <[[thufir]]> how do I search for "ruby-all" in synaptic?
[10:29] <Svenstaro> yes, a bit FYI
[10:29] <Jack_Sparrow> sstoveld, reboot with the cd in place..
[10:29] <sstoveld> DistroJockey, nope
[10:29] <Svenstaro> [[thufir]] apt-cache search ruby-all
[10:29] <sstoveld> ok thanks guys, rebooting
[10:29] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, you might not have to do all that removing splash and stuff, so try without fierst
[10:29] <DistroJockey> sstoveld: The HDD you are using does not have any data you need?
[10:30] <Jack_Sparrow> Svenstaro, on a 64bit.. I can almost guarrantee he will need to modify the command line
[10:30] <Svenstaro> he is on 32bit now
[10:31] <Jack_Sparrow> Svenstaro, 64bit hardware
[10:31] <Jack_Sparrow> not to mention the ati 800
[10:31] <[[thufir]]> Svenstaro: apt is updating at the moment; what if ruby-all isn't there?
[10:31] <Svenstaro> uhm, yeah the ati is nasty
[10:31] <Svenstaro> [[thufir]] then you are screwed and you ahve to find a repo that contains it, but i know ubuntu features it
[10:32] <Jack_Sparrow> Svenstaro, I remove quiet and splash from all of my installs just to be able to see what is working..or not
[10:32] <shockhead> hi folks, anyone know if apt-get has been changed recently to NOT ask for confirmation on upgrades? mine didn't ask... :-(
[10:32] <Jack_Sparrow> !find ruby
[10:32] <ubotu> Found: libruby1.8, libruby1.8-dbg, libsvn-ruby, libsvn-ruby1.8, ruby (and 347 others)
[10:32] <shockhead> running hardy
[10:33] <Jack_Sparrow> !find ruby-all
[10:33] <ubotu> No packages matching 'ruby-all' could be found
[10:33] <Doskra> anyone know if the fakeraid howto still works correctly with hardy heron ?
[10:33] <DistroJockey> shockhead: noticed that with single packages, might wanna check in #ubuntu+1 though
[10:33] <Jack_Sparrow> !hardy
[10:33] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[10:33] <Svenstaro> Doskra, i wouldnt count on it, seeing as hardy uses another virtual filesystem
[10:33] <Doskra> Svenstaro mhm thats bad
[10:33] <shockhead> DistroJockey: thanks
[10:34] <DistroJockey> shockhead: np
[10:34] <Doskra> does ubuntu work if booted from usb drive ?
[10:34] <[[thufir]]> Svenstaro: I feel silly.  it was ruby-full
[10:34] <Lamego> Jack_Sparrow, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide , plenty of instructions, including mounting the wubi image files
[10:34] <Svenstaro> Doskra, yup it does
[10:34] <Doskra> Svenstaro right thanks
[10:34] <Svenstaro> you can even boot it from floppys
[10:34] <Svenstaro> with enough spare time that is
[10:34] <Doskra> i guess thatll be good enough to make my code cross platform compatible
[10:34] <Jack_Sparrow> Doskra, Make an iso on usb bootable http://jak-linux.org/tmp/iso2usb.sh
[10:35] <Doskra> Svenstaro i take it the floppy switching would take the most time
[10:35] <sstoveld> ok guys, installing now :D
[10:35] <Doskra> Jack_Sparrow do i need that even tough im booting from a usb hdd ?
[10:35] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, any issues?
[10:35] <Jack_Sparrow> Lamego, I was hoping for something more direct that just the wubi wiki
[10:35] <sstoveld> didnt have to remove quiest splash or anything, worked perfect
[10:35]  * Svenstaro grins
[10:35] <sstoveld> hehe
[10:35] <Jack_Sparrow> Doskra, no...
[10:35] <suprie> i want to ask how to install rails in ubuntu, but not quite sure if this the right place
[10:36] <Jack_Sparrow> Doskra, the problem you may have is where grub puts the bootloader or sees the mbr
[10:36] <sstoveld> oh ok so yeah, like in windows to check my hd and see how much space i had, i would go to my computer > C:, how do i do this in ubuntu?
[10:36] <Jack_Sparrow> !rails
[10:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rails - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:37] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, console version is simply "df -h" shows you all partitions and space
[10:37] <brunner> woah
[10:37] <Lamego> Jack_Sparrow, CTRL-F, "mounting the virtual disks"
[10:37] <humblerodent> Anybody use F-Spot?  I've been fiddling with it and it seems really slick but it imported my photos and read the date/time as 7 hours off....:P
[10:37] <foldart_> !info rails | suprie
[10:37] <brunner> hardy will allow you to install ubuntu from windows?
[10:37] <ubotu> suprie: rails (source: rails): MVC ruby based framework geared for web application development. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.4-1ubuntu1.1 (gutsy), package size 2230 kB, installed size 16136 kB
[10:37] <brunner> that really kicks ass.
[10:37] <sstoveld> oh ok, thanks :D
[10:37] <Doskra> Jack_Sparrow hmpf i guess ill dig through the spare parts again to see if i can find an old pata controller
[10:37] <Svenstaro> sstoveld nautilus also shows you it graphically i think
[10:37] <suprie> yes ... i know, but what i've tried is install the ruby through rubg gems
[10:37] <suprie> ruby gems
[10:37] <Lamego> anyway, loopback mounting a file is not wubi specific, is something that you should understand in general when using linux
[10:38] <suprie> i want to use rails 2.0
[10:38] <Doskra> and pray that grub doesnt fuck up anything on the raid1
[10:38] <sstoveld> gotcha, ok and what about disk defrag? i used to use diskeeper, is that available on ubuntu?
[10:38] <Lamego> !defrag
[10:38] <ubotu> The default Ubuntu filesystem (ext3) is engineered to avoid fragmentation issues in most cases, see http://linkpot.net/behead/ for a simple example on how it achieves this. A package "defrag" is available in !Universe, however its use is not safe, and is generally not needed.
[10:38] <jussi01> !ohmy | Doskra
[10:38] <ubotu> Doskra: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[10:38] <sstoveld> ooh nice
[10:39] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, by the way, there are virtually no viri and malware programs for linux :)
[10:39] <suprie> sstoveld, yes, you don't need diskdefrag on ext3
[10:39] <Doskra> Svenstaro its only a matter of time
[10:39] <sstoveld> hehe :D i like the sound of no viri
[10:40] <sstoveld> which means no need for an antivirus?
[10:40] <Doskra> sstoveld no need for it right now
[10:40] <Svenstaro> Doskra you be quiet! :P fact is that tricking the average linux user into something malicious is much ahrder than in windows
[10:40] <sstoveld> k
[10:40] <Doskra> and i doubt theres a good antivir for linux anyways
[10:40] <Doskra> Svenstaro thats true yeah
[10:40] <gullstad> Hello. I'v tried to install Paint.net on ubuntu 7.10, but It wont work, I just get an error msg, when I type "make"
[10:40] <Doskra> sudo makes it pretty hard
[10:40] <suprie> Svenstaro, yes, it just matter of time... but till that time arrive i guess we can relieve
[10:40] <Svenstaro> theres clamav, I use it to scan mails and stuff :)
[10:40] <spikeb> clamAV is there.
[10:40] <Svenstaro> gullstads, isnt there like a package for it?
[10:41] <Doskra> virus writers should really start to make the viri wine compatible
[10:41] <Doskra> i want my fair share of em
[10:41] <Svenstaro> yeah
[10:41] <Lamego> gullstad, the last time I have checked it required a newer mono version, not available on Ubuntu
[10:41] <suprie> Doskra, hahahahahahaha
[10:41] <Svenstaro> sstoveld a full ubuntu backup of all your settings is usually smaller than 5mb in size :)
[10:41] <sstoveld> :O
[10:42] <Doskra> whats the best visual studio replacement on ubuntu ?
[10:42] <Svenstaro> code::Blocks
[10:42] <Svenstaro> I love it
[10:42] <Lamego> Doskra, monodevelop, I guess
[10:42] <larson9999> so many apps so little time
[10:42] <gullstad> Lamego: So I cant install paint.net on ubuntu?
[10:42] <Lamego> well, code::blocks does not provide a gui designer
[10:42] <Svenstaro> it does!
[10:42] <Svenstaro> lies!
[10:42] <Lamego> it does ?
[10:42] <sstoveld> man for years my friends have been telling me to switch to linux, i cant believe it took me this long, after like 500 reformats due to windows
[10:42] <Jack_Sparrow> Doskra, BE awaree that that old pata controller may not work....
[10:42] <chillitom>  a kernel update has completely ruined my Xorg..  any easy way to remove and reinstall X to get the default settings regenerated? i tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but no luck, still reverts to failsafe each time.
[10:42] <Lamego> It has been a long time since I have used code::blocks :P
[10:42] <Svenstaro> lies!
[10:43] <chillitom>  intel 945, with dell 2407fpw display
[10:43] <Doskra> Jack_Sparrow hardware support still isnt as good as winxp eh ?
[10:43] <Jack_Sparrow> sstoveld, welcome back, I was busy reading..
[10:43] <Doskra> oh well i guess ill have to give it some time
[10:43] <Svenstaro> chillitom, do you know what went haywire?
[10:43] <suprie> !ping me
[10:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ping me - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:43] <sstoveld> Jack_Sparrow, thanks
[10:43] <Lamego> Svenstaro, which type of GUIs ? glade ? WX RC ?
[10:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Doskra, still a lot of hardware mfg doing the gates goose-step
[10:43] <Svenstaro> wx afaik
[10:43] <Lamego> ok
[10:44] <chillitom> Svenstaro, no idea what the problem is, it just goes to failsafe with vesa each time.. can't find a single log that doesn't report the failsafe config as the one being used.
[10:44] <Jack_Sparrow> sstoveld, Got it working I presume
[10:44] <Svenstaro> chillitom you are not using ati by any chance?
[10:44] <Svenstaro> Jack_Sparrow yes 32bit did the trick - without changing the command line :)
[10:44] <chillitom> lspci doesn't list any ati devices
[10:44] <Jack_Sparrow> cool
[10:44] <Doskra> right last question
[10:44] <sstoveld> well its still installing :P, but i didnt have to delete quiet splash, and it worked :D
[10:44] <Svenstaro> chillitom nvidia graphics?
[10:44] <Doskra> hardy heron beta or feisty fawn ?
[10:44] <sstoveld> but Svenstaro beat me to it :P
[10:45] <Jack_Sparrow> Svenstaro, take him through restricted drivers and compiz
[10:45] <Svenstaro> sure i will
[10:45] <chillitom> Svenstaro, Intel Corporation 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[10:45] <pusoicafe> i see green on my usb webcam can somebody help me?
[10:45]  * Svenstaro looks tired
[10:45] <Svenstaro> Oh no, an intel integrated
[10:45] <Jack_Sparrow> time for bed here 3:45am
[10:45] <Svenstaro> sorry mate cant help there chillitom
[10:45] <suprie> i like intel
[10:45] <sstoveld> yeah i better get going to bed pretty soon too
[10:45] <sstoveld> almost 7 am here :(
[10:45] <chillitom> Svenstaro, thanks anyway.
[10:46] <Doskra> suprie you wont like the graphic chips they make
[10:46] <chillitom> suprie, yeah my intel was working great until a kernel update
[10:46] <sstoveld> thanks for the help Jack_Sparrow, i really appreciate it
[10:46] <suprie> chillitom, try to install xserver-xgl
[10:46] <Doskra> they probably cant even get good fps on monkey island
[10:46] <suprie> chillitom, Doskra , i never had any problem with intel graphic chipset yet
[10:47] <Doskra> suprie you never tried to watch a 720p+ movie then
[10:47] <suprie> owhh
[10:47] <suprie> yes i have
[10:47] <sjoerd> Doskra: i can watch 1080p just fine with my intel graphic chipset
[10:47] <suprie> i simply turn off the compiz if i want to watch movie
[10:48] <Svenstaro> you can also start movies on a nested x server
[10:48] <Svenstaro> like games
[10:48] <suprie>  VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[10:49] <tam-sco> re
[10:49] <suprie> ubuntu now has better hardware recognition than windows... at least that what i thought
[10:51] <brunner> suprie: hey, I have that graphics card
[10:51] <brunner> I have to turn compiz off to watch a movie =/
[10:51] <suprie> brunner, yes me too
[10:51] <brunner> is there any way to be notified when that will be fixed
[10:51] <brunner> ?
[10:51] <brunner> or is there a place to check, at least?
[10:52] <suprie> dunno...
[10:52] <flyback> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIbYfPbGc0Y&feature=related# <--- one of the best parts of the big-o anime series and funniest
[10:52] <suprie> i've counter the same problem too
[10:53] <chillitom> Hmm seems booting using startx as opposed to gdm fixes all my graphics problems
[10:53] <chillitom> at a guess something is broken with gdm which causes it to always launch my failsafe configuration
[10:53] <chillitom> annoying
[10:53] <suprie> so maybe the problem is on the gdm
[10:54] <suprie> did anyone has used kde4.0 ?
[10:54] <sstoveld> oh man...
[10:54] <Svenstaro> suprie i did, just now
[10:54]  * flyback one of the best real world examples of a properly implemented "STFU!"
[10:54] <suprie> i can't opened the display properties
[10:54] <flyback> and how the hell did I rejoin this channel
[10:54]  * flyback punches xchat
[10:54] <sstoveld> Svenstaro, low graphics mode again, you know an easy fix or should i just reinstall ubuntu? :P
[10:54] <suprie> it always crash
[10:55] <Svenstaro> sstoveld ah man, what did you do?
[10:55] <sstoveld> i tried to do dual monitor and it went to low graphics mode
[10:55] <Svenstaro> okay i know why
[10:55] <suprie> sstoveld, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:55] <Svenstaro> did you install the restricted driver first?
[10:55] <Doskra> sstoveld dual monitor is a problem with ubuntu ?...
[10:55] <sstoveld> Svenstaro, yeah
[10:55] <Svenstaro> and that one worked?
[10:56] <sstoveld> what worked? lol
[10:56] <NeT_DeMoN_> i have a problem, i have a laptop that wont download anything but is connected to the internet
[10:56] <Doskra> NeT_DeMoN_ more details
[10:56] <suprie> NeT_DeMoN_, maybe your proxy prevent you
[10:56] <Svenstaro> sstoveld were you able to run a high ress one screen setup?
[10:57] <NeT_DeMoN_> Doskra: i am dual booting ubuntu and vista on my laptop which has an ati graphics card and an atheros network driver
[10:57] <administration> wao
[10:57] <NeT_DeMoN_> its hard wired to the same router this box is on and i just downloaded updates 5 minutes ago
[10:57] <sstoveld> yes, but when i set it to 2 screen, the 2nd monitor stayed disabled and first one is low graphic, cant change res over 800x600
[10:57] <jtravnick> im getting a error all of a  sudden when i boot my system saying Duplicate or bad block in use
[10:57] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, gotcha,
[10:57] <huy> hi,
[10:58] <huy> i can use restricted driver for an window wireless driver?
[10:58] <huy> i meant, can i?
[10:58] <suprie> huy, what is your wireless chipset ?
[10:58] <Svenstaro> sstoveld what exactly do you want your screens do? you want them to extend I assume?
[10:59] <huy> suprie: i don't know
[10:59] <sstoveld> yes, primary on the right, secondary on the lefs, extend to the left
[10:59] <huy> suprie: i think it's broadcom
[10:59] <suprie> huy, do lspci
[11:00] <Svenstaro> can you try to put it back to one screen?
[11:00] <suprie> huy, maybe this will help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683
[11:01] <huy> suprie: i enabled the restricted driver
[11:01] <huy> but then, the light for wireless turned on a second then it turned off right away
[11:01] <sstoveld> well its still at 1 screen for some reason, it says 2nd is disabled, but it just shows the exact same thing as monitor 1
[11:01] <Svenstaro> sstoveld thats what they do when idle
[11:01] <suprie> you have to use ndiswrapper i guess
[11:02] <huy> suprie: the forum looks pretty good, thanks alot
[11:02] <Esk10> anyone have any experience with wacoms?
[11:03] <suprie> sure
[11:03] <suprie> huy, no problems, glad can help
[11:03] <larson9999> used to be when i typed something into the firefox url field(not the search field), google search would happen if it wasn't a url.  now it's a yahoo search.  how can i make it go back to google?
[11:04] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, still there?
[11:04] <sstoveld> hm, when i go over to graphics card, driver is set to vesa
[11:04] <sstoveld> yeah im here
[11:04] <Esk10> that one is pretty simpe larson
[11:04] <Esk10> the little box to the left
[11:04] <Esk10> click it
[11:04] <sstoveld> should i change the driver to something else?
[11:04] <unop> larson9999, http://tinyurl.com/2fxfa5
[11:04] <Svenstaro> okay, i need you to "sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.bkup
[11:05] <sstoveld> is there a space there after the xorg.conf?
[11:05] <Svenstaro> yes that ones important
[11:05] <sstoveld> k
[11:06] <sstoveld> no confirmation or anything, just redisplays the prompt?
[11:06] <Svenstaro> yes
[11:07] <sstoveld> ok done
[11:07] <Svenstaro> in linux that means that there were no errors :)
[11:07] <sstoveld> :)
[11:07] <larson9999> unop, that says mine's at google.  but it still searches yahoo.  i'll give it another look when i get home
[11:07] <Svenstaro> okay now to screw it up again, now that we have a backup
[11:07] <sstoveld> hehe
[11:08] <deebo> anyone running a system with a ich8r controller?
[11:09] <deebo> i tried googling for support but its seems kidna dire
[11:09] <deebo> i boot from a ide drive but i need to run two sata2 software raids
[11:09] <LollinopiL> how can i see my IP address with ubuntu ?
[11:10] <Svenstaro> LollinopiL ifconfig
[11:10] <suprie> LollinopiL, ifconfig from console
[11:10] <gaE4> When i start WarCraft III with WINE the Display becomes smaller and everything begins to flicker. some days ago it worked fine, but now it won't anymore! Command=| wine "/Path/Programme/Warcraft III/Frozen Throne.exe" -opengl | Anyone who can help me? PLZ! btw. system=ubuntu 7.10 64bit
[11:10] <LollinopiL> okzokzokzokz thx
[11:10] <sstoveld> oops, hang on, i messed it all up :P
[11:11] <figuringout> hi, i'm a noobie. working on ubuntu. got apache2 and all the packages. i have a basic php files in my/www/var. apache refuses to render. any solutions?
[11:11] <LollinopiL> is it inet address ?
[11:11] <suprie> gaE4, have u tried to use wine from ff ?
[11:11] <suprie> LollinopiL, you could see your ipaddress from there
[11:12] <sstoveld> hmm this is weird, it happened last time too, when i booted up after the loading screen and stuff, i got a few weird looking screens, all green with lines going down, kinda matrix like
[11:12] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, yes thats the wrath of ATI
[11:12] <alex89> ciaoo
[11:12] <alex89> !list
[11:12] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:12] <sstoveld> ah i see
[11:12] <LollinopiL> suprie yes but my IP is signed as INETADDR ?
[11:12] <gaE4> suprie, ff?
[11:13] <Svenstaro> well lets scrwe up taht xorg.conf
[11:13] <suprie> gaE4, feisty fawn
[11:13] <sstoveld> sounds good
[11:13] <suprie> LollinopiL, yes.. it's your ip adress
[11:13] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo go to ATI
[11:13] <LollinopiL> okzokz
[11:13] <LollinopiL> thx
[11:13] <gaE4> suprie, no i am using gutsy
[11:14] <Svenstaro> sstoveld when you paste it into your xorg.conf, make sure to choose the correct BusIDs for your device
[11:14] <gaE4> suprie, all the time, at first everything worked perfect, but than it wont anymore
[11:14] <Svenstaro> your current BusIDs are in your current xorg.conf, just remember those when copying it over
[11:14] <sstoveld> one sec, lemme get on irc on desktop
[11:14] <suprie> gaE4, yes, i guess there something wrong with wine on gutsy
[11:14] <cupcake> how to run bit torrent on command line?
[11:14] <sstoveld> ok
[11:15] <suprie> gaE4, so i took the wine from feisty repository, and everything start to worked again
[11:15] <gaE4> suprie, but how to explain that it worked before?
[11:15] <sstoveld> what was that link again?
[11:15] <Svenstaro> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo
[11:15] <erUSUL> cupcake: use a command line client
[11:15] <sstoveld> ty
[11:15] <Svenstaro> cupcake have alook at bittornado
[11:15] <cupcake> Svenstaro: thx
[11:15] <jtravnick> what the h@ll system was working fine last night now all of a sudden getting told file system has errors than duplicate or bad block in use whats that all about??
[11:15] <Face> lolwat
[11:15] <gaE4> suprie, hmm... how to do this? i am rly new to linux?
[11:16] <suprie> gaE4, brb
[11:16] <Budaboo> does forcing a HDD to mount cause data corruption?
[11:16] <gaE4> suprie, kk! my wine version is 0.9.57
[11:16] <bsdnewb07> not normally
[11:16] <sstoveld> ok so take what he has there and replace everything in my xorg.conf with it?
[11:16] <Svenstaro> you cant fource something to mount
[11:16] <Svenstaro> only to unmount
[11:16] <bsdnewb07> yu can Svenstaro
[11:16] <Svenstaro> you can?
[11:16] <ricanelite> is there a RSS Application on Ubuntu Linux that reads xml file?
[11:17] <Svenstaro> why would you need to force it?
[11:17] <Budaboo> it's suggestin to add -force
[11:17] <Budaboo> to command
[11:17] <ricanelite> cause I have a bunch of feeds and i will like to view them on linux
[11:17] <bsdnewb07> -force
[11:17] <Svenstaro> sstoveld yes, but note the busid
[11:17] <Lamego> jtravnick, badblocks usually means your disk is experiencing physical problems
[11:17] <ricanelite> but when i export them onto my usb drive it comes up as a xml file
[11:17] <Svenstaro> it will need to be yours
[11:17] <huy> when it say this "for conffile in /etc/ndiswrapper/bcmwl5/*.conf; do
[11:17] <huy> sudo cat $conffile | sed -e 's/RadioState|1/RadioState|0/' > $conffile
[11:17] <huy> done" i have ot type in teh whole thing?
[11:18] <Svenstaro> sstoveld also keep in mind that this most likely breaks your xorg.conf :)
[11:18] <sstoveld> hehe
[11:18] <jtravnick> Lamego, k thats what i thought but everything was fine last night when i shut down to go to bed
[11:18] <Svenstaro> Lamego got expeirence with ATI dual heads?
[11:18] <unop> huy, it's all one command, yes
[11:19] <Lamego> Svenstaro, no
[11:19] <sstoveld> do i replace my whole xorg.conf with just what he has there?
[11:19] <sstoveld> or just from under all the comments at the top?
[11:19] <sstoveld> or less? :P
[11:19] <huy> unop: but i got permission denied
[11:19] <suprie> gaE4, sorry i can't find the wine on my disk...
[11:20] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, replace everything with it
[11:20] <sstoveld> k
[11:20] <Svenstaro> BUT NOTE THE BUSID
[11:20] <gaE4> suprie, hmm... ok! i think i will still play with ~70hz^
[11:20] <sstoveld> lol what do i do with busid?
[11:20] <gaE4> suprie, thx anyways
[11:20] <sstoveld> change it to 5:0:0?
[11:20] <Svenstaro> note it, and change it
[11:20] <Svenstaro> yes
[11:21] <Lamego> jtravnick, well, some disks don't warn when they are about to fail, special if they are old disks
[11:21] <suprie> gaE4, yw sorry can't help to solve your problem
[11:21] <sstoveld> ok saved
[11:21] <Budaboo> i have one hard drive that is Linux the other drive is windows/ntfs but will not boot (i suspect windows data corruption). would mounting the ntfs drive in Ubuntu cause one of those "not normally" situations?
[11:21] <Svenstaro> shortcut and hope, a LOT
[11:21] <cupcake> Svenstaro: i just installed it. but command not found on xterm
[11:21] <unop> huy, yea, you can try this -- sudo perl -i.bak -ple 's/RadioState\|1/RadioState\|0/' /etc/ndiswrapper/bcmwl5/*.conf
[11:21] <sstoveld> hehe ok here we go!
[11:22] <Lamego> you can boot from a live cd, and use the badblocks command to find and mark the badblocks, but, I would backup all the data and replace the disk, ASAP
[11:22] <jtravnick> Lamego, true and now that you mention that not sure how old this drive is. running fsck in maintenance mode on it right now
[11:22] <Svenstaro> cupcake "bittornado" on CLI should do it
[11:22] <sstoveld> yeah still cant change res :(
[11:23] <Svenstaro> 2 monitors now at least?
[11:23] <Lamego> jtravnick, I am not sure fsck does a surface scan, you will need a surface scan to check for the badblocks
[11:23] <cupcake> "bittornado"
[11:23] <cupcake> root@longwait-laptop:~# bittornado
[11:23] <cupcake> bash: bittornado: command not found
[11:23] <Lamego> Budaboo, that is not expected
[11:23] <cupcake> by the way, it's BLUE CAKE, not cup cake
[11:23] <Svenstaro> cupcake, rather try rtorrent then, I hear its pretty fancy and in ncurses
[11:23] <sstoveld> monitor still displays same as primary monitor, should i try to change it?
[11:23] <Budaboo> thanks
[11:24] <bluecake> ...
[11:24] <Svenstaro> uhm no, just your config make me wonder a bit
[11:24] <jtravnick> Lamego, was just doing what it told me to do
[11:24] <bluecake> shit i swear, i changed to bluecake
[11:24] <ricanelite> what is a good RSS Reader
[11:24] <Svenstaro> because basically it would break now big time
[11:24] <JarG0n> anyone here from Canonical?
[11:24] <sstoveld> haha
[11:24] <Lamego> jtravnick, well, after fsck run a badblocks just to be safe
[11:24] <Lamego> fsck will only check filesystem structures
[11:24] <Svenstaro> sstoveld can you try the following
[11:25] <jtravnick> it wants to clone multiply=clamed blocks should i say yes?
[11:25] <Svenstaro> sstoveld press ctrl alt f2 , login , type sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[11:25] <kmanrox> guys, im trying to upgrade pidgin on my ubuntu..  which version should i d/l from pidgin.im?  fedora?  Source?
[11:25] <sstoveld> hm let me log back into laptop for this
[11:25] <Svenstaro> kmanrox, just use your trusty synaptic
[11:25] <suprie> kmanrox, source
[11:25] <Lamego> kmanrox, are you familiar on building from source ?
[11:26] <kmanrox> no im a total newb to this
[11:26] <kmanrox> and not a techy type
[11:26] <Svenstaro> then dont build from source :)
[11:26] <Dr_willis> kmanrox,  if you MUST have the latest - You will want to recompile from source..   And that will take some learning.
[11:26] <kmanrox> sheisse
[11:26] <Svenstaro> language
[11:26] <sstoveld> ok what was the command again?
[11:26] <Svenstaro> sstoveld press ctrl alt f2 , login , type sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[11:26] <Dr_willis> kmanrox,  Its not hard. Just a lot of little things to watch out for.
[11:26] <kmanrox> :)
[11:26] <suprie> kmanrox, well you can try
[11:26] <Lamego> kmanrox, you can get the latest version from getdeb, or just keep with the repository version
[11:27] <kmanrox> kk
[11:27] <sstoveld> ok its stopped
[11:27] <Svenstaro> goodie, now type "startx"
[11:27] <kmanrox> iĺl eventually fingure ubuntu out, its been installed a whole 19 minutes :)
[11:27] <sstoveld> fatal error, no screens found
[11:27] <Svenstaro> uh that sounds fatal
[11:28] <sstoveld> hahaha
[11:28] <unop_> lol
[11:28] <sstoveld> error parsing the config file
[11:28] <Lamego> sstoveld, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:28] <DarkSpirit221> Hi, can I set up an access point with a wireless router in ubuntu? Will it work with every routers?
[11:29] <Svenstaro> Lamego, that config doesnt do dual screen
[11:29] <Lamego> ah, dual screen, sorry, didn't read the all thread :P
[11:29] <unop_> DarkSpirit221, that's something you configure on the wireless router -- not in ubuntu -- you just connect ubuntu upto that access point
[11:29] <Christoz> Hello
[11:29] <sayap_ikarus> hgjhkoik
[11:30] <suprie> sayap_ikarus, ???
[11:30] <Christoz> I want to access an ftp site via the command system of debian linux is this possible?
[11:30] <kmanrox> would kubuntu be a more user friendly (for non techy types) of OS to play with?
[11:30] <sstoveld> ooh
[11:30] <sstoveld> wtf
[11:30] <Christoz> or ubuntu
[11:30] <unop_> Christoz, ftp ftp://site.com
[11:30] <sstoveld> i dont quite know what i did
[11:31] <unop_> Christoz, actually -- ftp site.com
[11:31] <DarkSpirit221> unop_: I want to create an access point with my ubuntu PC so I can play online on my NintendoDS.
[11:31] <sstoveld> i did what lamego said, then i read what you said so i just kept hitting esc til i got out of it
[11:31] <Christoz> so simple?
[11:31] <sstoveld> then i tried startx again
[11:31] <sstoveld> and now resolution back to normal
[11:31] <unop_> DarkSpirit221, and you wan't your NintendoDS to connect upto ubuntu rather than to the router?
[11:31] <Svenstaro> but still single screen?
[11:32] <sstoveld> but now i see a windows saying the panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID:GNOME_FastUserSwitchApplet"
[11:32] <jtravnick> Lamego, what switch should i use when i run badblocks?
[11:32] <sstoveld> do you want to delete it from configuration? yes/no
[11:32] <Svenstaro> ah yeah, that one needs gdm, not necessary now
[11:32] <Svenstaro> yeah prolly you can do that
[11:32] <sstoveld> delete or dont delete?
[11:32] <Lamego> jtravnick, not sure, I guess you can do a standard run without switches, man badblocks :)
[11:33] <Christoz> umop_ on a php site?
[11:33] <J-_> !away > ajmorris|AFK
[11:33] <Svenstaro> do the shortcut again and in console type sudo aticonfig --initial
[11:33] <DarkSpirit221> unop_: I want my Nintendo DS to connect to the access point. Like a local HotSpot.
[11:34] <sstoveld> ctrl alt f2?
[11:34] <jtravnick> hate the man pages they never make sence to me :( but am trying to read it now
[11:34] <Svenstaro> no kill x first
[11:34] <unop_> Christoz, php doesn't understand ftp -- ftp is purely for transferring files to and from computers -- so, i'm inclined to say no
[11:34] <Svenstaro> ctrl alt backspace
[11:34] <sstoveld> oh ok
[11:34] <gnr>  I had no sound through speaker or headphones so i did the first part of this "https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto" now sound is muted and i get errors trying to unmute
[11:34] <Dr_willis> DarkSpirit221,  i recall the nintendo DS wireless being VERY picky about who/what/settings/cards it will connect to. I recall it being a little brain dead in some ways
[11:34] <sstoveld> saved backup
[11:35] <Svenstaro> sudo aticonfig --initial
[11:35] <sstoveld> again?
[11:35] <finek> hi
[11:35] <Svenstaro> sudo aticonfig --dtop=horizontal
[11:35] <Svenstaro> this one now
[11:35] <suprie> need to go home rite now...
[11:35] <suprie> good nite everyone
[11:35] <sstoveld> k
[11:35] <sstoveld> done
[11:35] <unop_> DarkSpirit221, it's not something i've heard about -- but i suppose you'll need to configure both ubuntu and the DS in ad-hoc mode -- but that could affect how ubuntu connects if ubuntu uses wireless to connect to the router
[11:36] <Svenstaro> statx :)
[11:36] <Svenstaro> startx*
[11:36] <lachlan_> is there a way to check if ubuntu is using all of the four cores of my cpu? im running 32bit 7.10
[11:36] <sstoveld> !!!!
[11:36] <sstoveld> wooo
[11:36] <erUSUL> lachlan_: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[11:36] <Svenstaro> o_O
[11:36] <sstoveld> dual monitor :D
[11:36] <finek> i cant be root http://pastebin.com/m6015ddb0 ;(
[11:36] <Svenstaro> WOOT
[11:36] <erUSUL> !root | finek
[11:36] <ubotu> finek: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[11:36] <Svenstaro> resoltion?
[11:36] <gnr>  The volume control did not find any elements and/or devices to control. This means either that you don't have the right GStreamer plug-ins installed, or that you don't have a sound card configured. , any idea what i need to do#?
[11:36] <deebo> hmm, when will 8.04 be out
[11:37] <sstoveld> res is good :D
[11:37] <Svenstaro> native?
[11:37] <Lamego> !releases
[11:37] <ubotu> Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[11:37] <sstoveld> 1280x1024
[11:37] <Svenstaro> for gods sake DONT TOUCH ANYTHING
[11:37] <unop_> finek, su does not work on ubuntu by default, you need to use sudo
[11:37] <sstoveld> cept one problem rofl
[11:37] <Svenstaro> backup xorg.conf ASAP
[11:37] <J-_> deebo: April
[11:37] <Svenstaro> what prob?
[11:37] <sstoveld> monitor extends the wrong way
[11:37] <finek> blah...
[11:37] <Svenstaro> that no problem
[11:37] <sstoveld> will it mess up if i change it to go the other way?
[11:38] <Svenstaro> no, but dont use the graphical configurator
[11:38] <Svenstaro> sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and pastebin it please
[11:38] <lachlan_> erSUL the out put is about each seperate core what would i be looking for to see if each was being used?
[11:38] <sstoveld> hm i got a message, "User Switcher" has quit unexpectedly
[11:39] <sstoveld> when i hit reload it keeps popping up
[11:39] <Svenstaro> yeah scrwe that one, it will resolve itself with gdm
[11:39] <unop_> lachlan_, the fact that they are output there means each one is being used
[11:39] <lachlan_> ahh ok thanks
[11:39] <J-_> sstoveld: In Hardy?
[11:39] <erUSUL> lachlan_: use top
[11:39] <sstoveld> not hardy
[11:39] <J-_> hmm
[11:40] <kmaxtor> please to help me to fix my apt
[11:40] <turbough> hello everybody
[11:40] <kmaxtor>  the APT database could not be opened
[11:40] <turbough> has anyone ever used debootstrap to install ubuntu on a remote server?
[11:40] <kmaxtor> this may cause by incorrect apt configuration
[11:40] <turbough> i'm having trouble getting apt to work
[11:40] <kmaxtor> how fix to original configuration to update my apt
[11:40] <unop_> turbough, what's not working?
[11:40] <lachlan_> erSUL use top?
[11:40] <erUSUL> lachlan_: or htop wich is nicer (in top you have to press 1 to make it show all cpus)
[11:41] <sstoveld> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60987/
[11:41] <J-_> !apt > kmaxtor
[11:41] <sstoveld> there we go
[11:41] <erUSUL> lachlan_: yes on a terminal is a "task manager"
[11:41] <turbough> in the chrooted environment if i do something like "aptitude install locales" i receive errors
[11:41] <turbough> lots of errors
[11:42] <turbough> about partially installed packages
[11:42] <turbough> i'll paste the whole output
[11:42] <unop_> turbough, dont paste -- use the !pastebin
[11:42] <unop_> !pastebin | turbough
[11:42] <ubotu> turbough: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[11:42] <turbough> unop_: that's what i meant
[11:42] <despen> I know this isn't a ubuntu question but... I want a web solution which makes it possible for me and my users to upload files, images, text, links. Preferable with keywords and "what's new" functions. Does it exist?
[11:42] <unop_> turbough, had to make sure -- not everyone knows to use a pastebin
[11:43] <turbough> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60988/
[11:43] <Dr_willis> despen,  if youve seen other web sites with the same features.. Yes. it proberly does. :) now finding one you can use.. well  that makes it harder.
[11:43] <Cocoabean> despen, google it
[11:44] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, the problem now is that the wrong screen is the primary one?
[11:44] <rhineheart_m> hello.. is chkrootkit reliable?
[11:44] <turbough> that's after i chroot to the new environment which i create with debootstrap
[11:44] <lachlan_> erSUL htop is a nice program thanks. it shows what i want perfectly
[11:44] <despen> Cocoabean: Yes, but with what keyword? What is it called?
[11:44] <sstoveld> nope, primary extends to the right, but my other monitor is on the left
[11:44] <erUSUL> lachlan_: ;P
[11:44] <Svenstaro> sstoveld so the position would need swapping?
[11:44] <lachlan_> does anybody know of something i can do in ubuntu to test my Q6600
[11:44] <Cocoabean> hold on despen let me do some searching
[11:45] <sstoveld> yes
[11:45] <jau_> i'm upgrading my hd, i have partitioned the new drive, both drives are connected, and i have loaded a live-cd. Now i want to copy my old root to the new disk. I need recommendations, is cp -a enough. i would prefer a link to an easy howto html
[11:45] <despen> Cocoabean: I'm just in need of some good keyword, I don't know what that type of softwrae is called-
[11:45] <kmaxtor> please help to restore the original configuration of my apt
[11:45] <unop_> turbough, try reinstalling the passwd package -- sudo apt-get install --reinstall passwd
[11:45] <unop_> turbough, and try again
[11:45] <sharadg> hi, is there any way i can capture laptop docking and undocking events ?
[11:46] <turbough> same complaints
[11:46] <turbough> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60991/
[11:47] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, cant you just swap the position of the cables? :P
[11:47] <evan_> hey who can help me my alsa wont get to work i installed both deb and source all those go without error but i cant get any sound but systemsound..... i cant open programs like volume-management and alsamixer.... lspci detects my card but aplay -l wont ... anyone any options?
[11:47] <evan_> btw im runnign hardy
[11:47] <Pici> evan_: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Hardy/8.04 support/discussion.
[11:47] <sstoveld> Svenstaro, wouldnt that change my primary monitor to my other one?
[11:48] <Svenstaro> lets try :)
[11:48] <Jaffarkelshac> hello
[11:48] <evan_> Pici, im there
[11:48] <sstoveld> Svenstaro, lol k lemme try it
[11:48] <Svenstaro> sstoveld maybe im thinking in too stupid terms because im horribly tired
[11:48] <Jaffarkelshac> howdo i find out the linux number ie. hda1, hda2 sdb .... becuase it does not mount automatically
[11:49] <turbough> it's weird cause it should have been able to chage the syslog since the perms on syslog are +rw root
[11:49] <sstoveld> Svenstaro, haha im sorry, youve helped way more than enough, go to bed if you want to
[11:49] <sstoveld> Svenstaro, thanks a ton :D
[11:49] <Svenstaro> I'll fix this till im done :P
[11:49] <Svenstaro> too late for bed anyway
[11:49] <legend2440> Jaffarkelshac: blkid gives the uuid fdisk -l shows partitions
[11:49] <unop_> turbough, chage is not modifying a file there, it's modifying properties (max. age till lockout) of the syslog user
[11:50] <turbough> ahh
[11:50] <unop_> turbough, try mounting the /proc and /dev filesystems into the chroot first
[11:50] <turbough> they are mounted
[11:50] <tripps> is there a good desktop state application for ubuntu where I don't have to reopen everything I was working on when I log on/reboot system, etc.?
[11:50] <sstoveld> haha
[11:50] <turbough> well the proc is
[11:50] <Jaffarkelshac> legend2400 is the command just fdisk -l
[11:50] <turbough> i do a mount -t proc proc /proc
[11:50] <vanberge> if my WLAN card lights up, does that mean i can get it to work in ubuntu?
[11:50] <tripps> running gutsy gibbon gnome desktop btw
[11:50] <turbough> and /dev has stuff in it
[11:51] <unop_> turbough, it doesn't appear /dev/pts can be found according to your errors -- so /dev doesnt seem to be mounted
[11:51] <legend2440> Jaffarkelshac: sudo fdisk -l
[11:51] <turbough> should i do a mount -t bind /dev/ /my/chroot/environemnt?
[11:51] <unop_> turbough, wasn't it mount -o bind /dev/ /chroot/dev  ??
[11:51] <Jaffarkelshac> legend2400 thanks
[11:51] <unop_> turbough, i'm not sure
[11:52] <turbough> unop_:  it's true. thanks
[11:52] <manhbv_vn> manhbv_vn
[11:52] <boris> hi
[11:52] <Jaffarkelshac> does anyone know how to use the menu-xdg
[11:52] <boris> im not getting any sound. i got 2 sound cards, one, old one, is integrated. i only want to use the new one. sometimes, im not getting any sound, but it appears to go away after reboot
[11:52] <Dr_willis> turbough,  put it in the proper    /chroot/whatever/dev/
[11:52] <vanberge> i have a linksys (cisco) pcmcia wlan card that lights up when plugged in, but doesnt show up in my network config for me to set up, just seeing if anyone would be wiling to help me
[11:52] <sstoveld> Svenstaro, for some reason it wont display anything when i swap cables
[11:52] <Dr_willis> :)
[11:52] <Svenstaro> sstoveld im stupid changing cables wont work of course
[11:52] <sstoveld> :P
[11:52] <Svenstaro> yeah swap em back
[11:52] <jau_> I did'nt find any wiki pages about hdd upgrade, but i think this is a very common thing to do. Should I just use download clonezilla, or is there a wiki page somewhere?
[11:52] <Dr_willis> I made a chroot script that does those mounts for dev proc, then the final chroot.
[11:52] <foldart_> tripps: System -> Preferences -> Sessions, Session Options tab
[11:53] <Jaffarkelshac> anyone got the menu-xdg to work when you install it
[11:53] <unop_> turbough, also, you might want to copy /etc/passwd into the chroot -- sudo cp /etc/passwd /chroot/etc/
[11:53] <Cocoabean> vanberge i can help you
[11:53] <sstoveld> hmm, i installed gaim, where is it now? how do i access it?
[11:53] <turbough> unop_: it's a fresh install of fc7 no users or data on the server yet
[11:53] <tripps> foldart_, thanks!
[11:53] <vanberge> Cocoabean, you can?  :-)
[11:54] <Svenstaro> sstoveld its not called gaim anymore, its pidgin
[11:54] <Cocoabean> yea, did you get my private message thing, im new to IRC
[11:54] <foldart_> tripps: yw
[11:54] <Svenstaro> can you see stuff again sstoveld?
[11:54] <turbough> ok the dev is mounted with -o now
[11:54] <sstoveld> ya i can :)
[11:54] <vanberge> Cocoabean, no i did not get a pm
[11:54] <turbough> and i tried: sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-minimal
[11:54] <rhineheart_m> hello.. how to install fast cgi?
[11:55] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.WORKING
[11:55] <Jaffarkelshac> can anyone help me to ge the menu-xdg to work
[11:55] <unop_> turbough, I have a feeling chage is trying to modify the chroot's /etc/passwd -- but is failing because those users are not found within it, perhaps?
[11:55] <DistroJockey> Svenstaro, sstoveld: Still going!
[11:55] <Svenstaro> tell me about it
[11:56] <sstoveld> DistroJockey haha yeah well almost done :D
[11:56] <Svenstaro> this channel should award medals or something
[11:56] <Cocoabean> vanberge i think my pm thing is messed up, you're going to need to use Ndiswrapper if you card is not recognized at startup
[11:56] <DistroJockey> Svenstaro, sstoveld: :)
[11:56] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.WORKING
[11:56] <sstoveld> sorry, done :D
[11:56] <vanberge> Cocoabean, well, thats what some of the docs say - but my card does get recognized and it lights up even
[11:56] <Svenstaro> sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:57] <unop_> turbough, and to confirm my suspicions -- if you examine your errors again, you'll see complaints about "group syslog does not exist" ...
[11:57] <Svenstaro> scroll all the way down
[11:57] <vanberge> Cocoabean, it just doesnt show up in my network settings for me to configure it
[11:57] <Svenstaro> append this
[11:57] <Cocoabean> lights will still go on
[11:57] <Cocoabean> yea thats because linux lacks alot of drivers for wifi cards
[11:57] <unop_> turbough, you might need to setup the /etc/{passwd,group} files to keep apt happy
[11:57] <vanberge> ok... i am familiar with ndiswrapper, but just didnt want to use if it was avoidable.
[11:57] <vanberge> Cocoabean, i will try ndiswrapper... thx for your help  :-)
[11:57] <Cocoabean> i had a linksys wmp11 that i just gave up on, even with Ndiswrapper it probably wont work with  WEP or encryption at all
[11:58] <_term> latest ubuntu iso is only 695mb>
[11:58] <_term> ?
[11:58] <turbough> unop_: it's true but i'm kinda concerned that there may be some stuff in the ubuntu passwd file that's not in the fedora passwd file
[11:58] <_term> latest ubuntu iso is only 695mb?
[11:58] <sstoveld> append what?
[11:58] <turbough> and there's no syslog user in the fedora passwd file either
[11:58] <Cocoabean> vanberge, ndiswrapper is a hail mary, just buy a new card that is supported
[11:59] <unop_> turbough, other way around -- the debootstrap installer generates those files on the fly and picks up info from your current system, and those don't appear to be fedora users/groups
[11:59] <Svenstaro> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60994/ look here
[11:59] <sstoveld> k
[11:59] <DistroJockey> Svenstaro, sstoveld: Sorry I wasn't much help. Great support Svenstaro! Good luck sstoveld.
[11:59] <Svenstaro> sstoveld and append the very end section "serverlayout"
[11:59] <unop_> turbough, so, you'll need to manually add all these various users and groups in the chroot env.
[11:59] <turbough> unop_: aaah
[11:59] <co_jmblo> hy
[11:59] <turbough> thanks unop_
[12:00] <unop_> turbough, np, if you like, i can give you those files
[12:00] <sstoveld> ok, done, save now?
[12:00] <Svenstaro> yes
[12:00] <sstoveld> DistroJockey, haha np man, thx for the help
[12:00] <Svenstaro> and restart it
[12:00] <turbough> unop_: that would be wicked.
[12:00] <turbough> unop_: gbickford@gmail.com or dcc is fine
[12:00] <gatestone> what is the best way to study kernel docuementation? Install the source? Or is the documentation easily browsable somewhere on the Web?
[12:00] <sstoveld> ctrl alt backspace?
[12:00] <turbough> damn
[12:00] <Svenstaro> yes
[12:00] <lachlan_> there is a mac on my network i would like to stream music from is there anyway i can do this?
[12:01] <sstoveld> k
[12:01] <sstoveld> brb
[12:01] <Jaffarkelshac> OH COME ON, DOES NO ONE KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT MENU-XDG sorry for shouting
[12:01] <DistroJockey> sstoveld: np, later. You'll get there :)
[12:01] <turbough> that should have been a private msg :)
[12:01] <unop_> turbough, i'll pastebin them, hold on
[12:01] <gatestone> Any up to date books on the kernel recommended?
[12:01] <Svenstaro> DistroJockey we already got dual screen working
[12:01] <turbough> cool
[12:01] <DistroJockey> Svenstaro: ahh, cool
[12:01] <DistroJockey> Svenstaro: what ya working on now?
[12:01] <legend2440> Jaffarkelshac: does this help? i'm not familiar with it http://e17blog.tuxfamily.org/e17blog_en.php/post/2007/08/13/About-the-Applications-menu-files
[12:01] <Svenstaro> the right positioning of the screens
[12:01] <desna> ???
[12:01] <DistroJockey> ahh
[12:02] <desna> haloo
[12:02] <sstoveld> hmm
[12:02] <DistroJockey> Svenstaro: out of my area atm.
[12:02] <sstoveld> i get that fatal error now
[12:02] <desna> hshsgadga
[12:02] <Svenstaro> k
[12:02] <DistroJockey> Svenstaro: *gives you a support award*
[12:02] <sstoveld> haha
[12:02] <DistroJockey> later :)
[12:03] <Svenstaro> did you only past the last section?
[12:03] <sstoveld> yeah
[12:03] <Jaffarkelshac> legend2400 cheers for the response
[12:04] <Svenstaro> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60995/
[12:04] <Svenstaro> paste it again, some changes
[12:04] <legend2440> Jaffarkelshac: does menu-xdg let you build your own custom menus?
[12:04] <turbough> can i just mount an ubuntu server iso image and launch the installer from fedora, remotely?
[12:04] <sstoveld> how do i get out of the black screen thing? lol
[12:04] <turbough> in a ssh session
[12:04] <Svenstaro> ctrl alt backspace
[12:04] <sstoveld> doesnt work :S
[12:04] <kmanrox> i see this error when booting, can u tell me how to fix or if i should worry?
[12:04] <kmanrox> i get unexpected response   in ****drivers/input/mis/yealink.c
[12:05] <Svenstaro> ctrl alt f2
[12:05] <Oli``> Is there a way to set a minimum time for double-click? Sometimes when I single-click, it's interpreted as a double click. This is probably due to faulty hardware but if I could filter clicks so super-rapid double clicks only counted as a single click, that would fix things for me.
[12:05] <Jaffarkelshac> legend2400 i was trying to understand ubuntu came across this guide http://monkeyblog.org/ubuntu/installing/
[12:05] <unop_> turbough, here you go : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60997/  (hope i haven't left any sensitive info behind)  :)
[12:05] <sstoveld> nope :(
[12:05] <Jaffarkelshac> legend2400 i so wanted to try it out
[12:05] <turbough> unop_: thanks for that
[12:05] <sstoveld> maybe cause X isnt started?
[12:05] <Svenstaro> might be, press enter
[12:06] <sstoveld> just redisplays the prompt
[12:06] <evan_> !hardy
[12:06] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[12:06] <Jaffarkelshac> legend2400 by the way, typing your name first, does it appear in red or do i have to use:
[12:06] <Svenstaro> ah so you are at the promt :) say so next time
[12:06] <Svenstaro> sudo mcedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:06] <sstoveld> sry dont know what its called :P i called it vblack screen with text haha
[12:06] <Svenstaro> go to the very end of it
[12:06] <Dr_willis> Time to learn some shell fundamentals. :)
[12:06] <Svenstaro> before the very last endsection enter this
[12:06] <W8TAH> im lookin for something similar to superkaramba for gnome -- any suggestions?
[12:07] <Svenstaro> Option "Xinerama" "on"
[12:07] <sstoveld> sudo: mcedit: command not found
[12:07] <Svenstaro> Option "Clone" "off"
[12:07] <Svenstaro> sudo apt-get install mc
[12:07] <Dr_willis> W8TAH,  gdesklets. desklets., proberly others
[12:07] <W8TAH> thank Dr_willis
[12:07] <sstoveld> ah ok :)
[12:08] <Dr_willis> W8TAH,  i think google may have some now for linux also.. I need to check on that
[12:08] <W8TAH> oh cool
[12:09] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, done?
[12:09] <sstoveld> done now, added option clone thing
[12:09] <Svenstaro> Option "Clone" "off"
[12:09] <Svenstaro> Option "Xinerama" "on"
[12:09] <Svenstaro> those two at 2 lines
[12:10] <sstoveld> k
[12:10] <sstoveld> done
[12:10] <kmaxtor> need help
[12:10] <Svenstaro> save
[12:10] <Svenstaro> startx
[12:10] <kmaxtor> my apt can't opened
[12:10] <Svenstaro> kmanrox sudo apt-get install -f
[12:10] <rhineheart_m> any response? which is better for drupal? fast cgi or zend optimzer?
[12:11] <sstoveld> F2 then F10 to exit?
[12:11] <Svenstaro> yes
[12:11] <Glock7> hey anyone successful in getting a sprint phone to dial as a modem using pppd or wvconfig
[12:11] <sstoveld> same fatal error
[12:12] <Lokii-> sstovald using hardy or gutsy?
[12:12] <sstoveld> gutsy
[12:13] <Svenstaro> sstoveld remove the whole last section and try again
[12:13] <Liorc> Hello , i willing to buy new computer and install Ubuntu on it but im not sure all the Hardware is supported;
[12:13] <Liorc> how can i figure it out ? ;;; i took most of the hardware from here (http://arstechnica.com/guides/buyer/guide-200803.ars/2)
[12:13] <farmen> någon som vet hur man kan fixa nya drivrutiner till ljud kortet
[12:13] <Svenstaro> Liorc, nvidia graphics and intel cpu will make you happy
[12:13] <Liorc> but what about Mboard ?
[12:13] <Liorc> and ram ?
[12:14] <Lokii-> liorc most are support
[12:14] <sstoveld> ok im back in now
[12:14] <Svenstaro> ram wont matter, mboard well, check the chipset compability
[12:14] <unop__> !hardware | Liorc
[12:14] <ubotu> Liorc: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[12:14] <erUSUL> Liorc: everything except some wifi chips and nvida over ati is supportes
[12:14] <farmen> det är integrerat ljudkort
[12:14] <sstoveld> lol yes, dont get ati :P
[12:14] <unop__> farmen, what language is that?
[12:14] <Liorc> okay Thanks all
[12:14]  * Lokii- made that mistake few years ago
[12:14] <sstoveld> im having so much trouble cause of my ati card
[12:15] <farmen> swedish
[12:15] <Lokii-> only idtro i could get to work on my ati 9800 pro aiw was mandrake
[12:15] <Svenstaro> can you paste the output of aticonfig --help for me sstoveld?
[12:15] <unop__> !se | farmen
[12:15] <ubotu> farmen: Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[12:15] <Liorc> i shall Stick with Nvidia and Intel ?
[12:15] <sstoveld> ? how do i do that
[12:15] <Svenstaro> yes
[12:15] <Svenstaro> enter in terminal
[12:15] <Lokii-> amd works fine too
[12:16] <Lokii-> i don't like intel very much
[12:16] <Lokii-> but thats just my own personal opinion
[12:16] <rhineheart_m> hello.. is zend optimizer supported by gutsy?
[12:17] <erUSUL> Liorc: the cpu is indiferent
[12:17] <joox> hallo
[12:17] <unop__> rhineheart_m, officially? errm, i dont think so
[12:17] <rhineheart_m> uhuh.. unop_ can you recommend of its use?
[12:17] <unop__> rhineheart_m, if you are asking if it can run on gutsy, i should presume so
[12:17] <Lokii-> be sure to grab a 64bit distro if you buy a 64bit chip
[12:17] <erUSUL> Liorc: as i said you have to stick with nvida and watch out the wifi chip printer and/or webcam
[12:17] <Liorc> i planned get Gefore 9600 gts but i cant see it in hardware support ?
[12:17] <cabrioleur> Lokii-, why?
[12:17] <unop__> rhineheart_m, i have no idea about php or zend to be honest
[12:18]  * unop__ is a perl programer
[12:18] <kate_mins> Hello , I need some help please, i am trying to run some perl script but i get an error msg : sh: Syntax error: Bad fd number ?
[12:18] <rhineheart_m> unop_, okay.. I thought you have background on these issues..  are you using apache2?
[12:18] <Lokii-> well first of all running a 64bit os on a 32 cpu platform i think won't install for 1 plus it'd be a waste of processor bw
[12:18] <unop__> rhineheart_m, not currently, but i have used it on projects, yes
[12:19] <Ernz> Hi, does anyone know how to do subnumbered lists in openoffice on ubuntu?
[12:19] <Lokii-> and the same vise versa
[12:19] <sstoveld> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/61002/
[12:19] <unop__> kate_mins, looks like you need to verify that the shebang line says -  #/usr/bin/perl
[12:19] <Lokii-> ernz
[12:19] <Lokii-> #openoffice
[12:20] <Svenstaro> kill X, on console enter sudo aticonfig --dtop=horizontal,reverse and hope very very strongly
[12:20] <Ernz> Lokii: There are 5 people in #openoffice. No one answers. There have to be loads of openoffice users in here.
[12:20] <asien> ola<
[12:21] <unop__> kate_mins, you can also run the script like this -- perl /path/to/scriptname
[12:21] <asien> hi
[12:21] <rhineheart_m> well..is anybody here could tell me if chkrootkit is reliable?
[12:21] <kate_mins> unop__: the first line in the script is : #! /usr/bin/perl . its that ok ?
[12:21] <asien> yes me
[12:21] <unop__> kate_mins, no spaces allowed there
[12:21] <asien> yes its ok
[12:21] <sstoveld> :D:D:D
[12:21] <Dr_willis> kate_mins,  i do NOT think you want a space in there
[12:21] <sstoveld> it works! :D
[12:21] <Svenstaro> all the way
[12:21] <Svenstaro> ?P
[12:21] <unop__> kate_mins, #!/usr/bin/perl
[12:21] <asien> hey
[12:21] <sstoveld> yes hehe
[12:21] <Svenstaro> holy sh!t
[12:22] <sstoveld> omg lol
[12:22] <asien> is anybody there ?
[12:22] <unop__> language Svenstaro
[12:22] <Dr_willis> asien,  lots of people here.. :)
[12:22] <kate_mins> unop__: mm ok i will fix and try again to run the script thanks for your help
[12:22] <sstoveld> man, i cant believe you stayed here with me this whole time to figure this all out
[12:22] <sstoveld> what a headache
[12:22] <Svenstaro> unop_ ive been trying to fix this dude up for 7h straight now, Im officially allowed to shout words like that
[12:22] <sstoveld> thanks so much man
[12:22] <asien> i only want to practise a little bit of english
[12:22] <sstoveld> and 7 hours is no exaggeration
[12:23] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, you can go back to windows now :)
[12:23] <sstoveld> HAHA
[12:23] <asien> dr willis
[12:23] <Liorc> if i will get intel core 2 in 64 bit would i need new application ? will my normals not work ?
[12:23] <asien> are you there ?
[12:23] <unop__> Svenstaro, trust me, the ops take no exception to that language in this family-friendly channel, now you wouldn't want to end up like that after 7hours now, would you? :)
[12:24] <Svenstaro> unop__ quite honestly I dont feel a lot anymore and probably wouldnt even notice :P
[12:24] <kate_mins> unop__: still i get an error msg : sh: Syntax error: Bad fd number ?
[12:24] <sstoveld> thanks so much Svenstaro
[12:25] <unop__> kate_mins, do this for me? run this command -- head -n 1 /path/to/scriptname   and let me know what it says _exactly_
[12:25] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, you know what you gonna do now? sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.WORKING_FOR_REAL_DONT_TOUCH_OR_DIE
[12:25] <sstoveld> hahaha
[12:25] <Svenstaro> seriously
[12:25] <sstoveld> what is cp btw? copy?
[12:25] <sstoveld> ya im doing it
[12:25] <Svenstaro> yes
[12:25] <Svenstaro> geeks like it short
[12:25] <sstoveld> hehe
[12:25] <Svenstaro> mv = move
[12:26] <kate_mins> unop__: #!/usr/bin/perl
[12:26] <Svenstaro> rm = remove
[12:26] <Liorc> ls = list :)
[12:26] <sstoveld> ah gotcha
[12:26] <sstoveld> ok all backed up :D
[12:27] <Svenstaro> bc = arbitrary command line calculator with infinite precision
[12:27] <unop__> kate_mins, is there a space at the first character? i.e. " #!/usr/bin/perl" as opposed to "#!/usr/bin/perl"
[12:27] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, well, enjoy :D
[12:27] <sstoveld> thanks again man, sorry to be such a headache
[12:27] <Svenstaro> np
[12:27] <Svenstaro> I like fixing stuff :)
[12:28] <sstoveld> haha yeah, but not for this long eh? :P
[12:28] <unop__> kate_mins, you can use the pastebin and show us the script too, if you like
[12:28] <Svenstaro> Ah I had longer
[12:28] <Svenstaro> when my server kinda crashed
[12:28] <Svenstaro> that was a headache, having to fix stuff in my pretty cold basement really is a tad more annoying
[12:28] <sstoveld> haha
[12:28] <KrisWood> Lo all, I've got the stupid question of the day, I think... how do I add users with zero rights?
[12:29] <unop__> KrisWood, add a user whose shell is /bin/false
[12:29] <Svenstaro> simply add the user KrisWood and dont make him member of any group, and set his shell to some virtual one
[12:29] <unop__> KrisWood, or /bin/nologin even
[12:29] <KrisWood> unop__, cool, thanks, how do I do that?
[12:29] <sstoveld> hmm, i noticed options or preferences is missing from firefox's tools menu :S
[12:29] <Dr_willis> KrisWood,  define 'zero rights' :)
[12:29] <sstoveld> how do i set my home page lol
[12:29] <kate_mins> unop__: http://pastebin.com/d74c91cb0
[12:29] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, it just moved, find it under edit
[12:29] <unop__> KrisWood, by zero-rights, i mean the user cannot even log on to the machine
[12:29] <sstoveld> oh i see, thanks
[12:29] <federa> hi!!
[12:30] <KrisWood> Dr_willis, I've got an svn server running on my linux box for one of my dev groups, but I don't want the dev team to have access to the rest of the box, just svn
[12:30] <unop__> KrisWood, see the manpage for adduser and useradd
[12:30] <Svenstaro> sstoveld be are that starting gdm on reboot COULD screw up your config
[12:30] <Svenstaro> rather test it now
[12:30] <kate_mins> unop__: BTW my system is : Ubuntu 7.10 gusty (64 bit)
[12:30] <Svenstaro> even better, write protoect your current config
[12:30] <sstoveld> how do i do that?
[12:30] <Dr_willis> KrisWood,  i recall setting a users shell to 'false' as one way to prevent logins
[12:30] <federa> does someone knows if there's  an apple emulator like wine??
[12:30] <kmanrox> recommendations for the best ubuntu HTML/web design editor?
[12:30] <KrisWood> So I need to create users that are not able to log in at all, except as members of teh svn group
[12:30] <sstoveld> lol 1 sec, let me get on desktop irc
[12:30] <unop__> kate_mins, ok, i'm checking the script now
[12:30] <federa> somethings that allow me to run apple app
[12:30] <remu> whats the irc room for hardy questions?
[12:30] <KrisWood> unop__, thanks I'll try that
[12:30] <sstoveld> k
[12:30] <kate_mins> unop__: thanks :)
[12:30] <Dr_willis> federa,  ive never heard of such a thing.
[12:31] <sigit> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[12:31] <unop__> kate_mins, it seems to work fine on my system -- what does this command return??   perl -c /path/to/scriptname
[12:31] <Dr_willis> federa,  check out http://pearpc.sourceforge.net/  perhaps
[12:31] <eezgb> first time to come here ,hello,everybody
[12:31] <federa> yep..i'm using it...
[12:32] <federa> and now i will learn how it work
[12:32] <kate_mins> unop__: syntax ok
[12:32] <remu> my bad, didnt read the top completely
[12:32] <Svenstaro> sudo chmod 555 /etc/X11/xorg.conf sstoveld
[12:32] <federa> thanks!!!
[12:32] <unop__> kate_mins, actually use this -- perl -Mstrict -W -c scriptname
[12:33] <roychri> Why is my ATA (not SATA) drive shows up as /dev/sda ?
[12:33] <sstoveld> k, all done there LD
[12:33] <sstoveld> :D*
[12:33] <Dr_willis> federa,  in theory one could run an apple emulator.  and perhaps ssh -X to it, and have the apps appear on the linux desktop... but  not sure if Apples osx cando that..
[12:33] <unop__> kate_mins, it might be that the script has trouble understanding options you give it -- what is the exact command you use when you recieve that error?
[12:33] <Dr_willis> !libata | roychri
[12:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libata - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:33] <Svenstaro> okay lets screw it up again, kill X and in console enter sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[12:34] <Dr_willis> roychri,  changes to the drive subsystems  are making all ide devices show up as scsi.
[12:34] <federa> mmm...ok Dr_willis!! thanks very much!!
[12:34] <kate_mins> unop__: http://pastebin.com/m7a2214df
[12:34] <sstoveld> lol, why do we wanna screw it up now :P
[12:34] <Svenstaro> sstoveld to make it screw proof
[12:35] <sstoveld> ah ok
[12:35] <sstoveld> you mean sstoveld proof? haha
[12:35] <KrisWood> Ok I ust thought of a simpler answer to my situation... If I set my .htaccess to not require valid linux users, I can just set their usernames and passwords in the .htpasswd file and they won't have any other access, right?
[12:35] <sstoveld> let me get back onto laptop
[12:35] <bsdnewb07> anyone know any good voip server software for ubuntu
[12:36] <sstoveld_> ok
[12:36] <Svenstaro> okay lets screw it up again, kill X and in console enter sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[12:36] <sstoveld_> whats the command again?
[12:36] <sstoveld_> k
[12:37] <roychri> Dr_willis: ok, thanks
[12:37] <unop__> KrisWood, if you setup users whose shells are /bin/false and add them to a group, you can then set permissions over files and directories for that group alone -- members of that group will not be able to logon via a console (or other means) and wont be able to access other parts of the system
[12:38] <sstoveld> ok uh when i started it i entered my login info and now its stuck at a blank beige coloured screen
[12:38] <unop__> kate_mins, can you pastebin the exact command you typed and error please?
[12:38] <KrisWood> unop__, aaaaaah ok thanks :)
[12:39] <Corky_> hey peoples im back
[12:39] <luddite> i i have a ubuntu fiesty to ubuntu gusty lan working. they can ping each other and can see each others apache webpages. But the PC without the USB cable connection cant get onto the internet
[12:39] <kate_mins> unop__: http://pastebin.com/md54b5bb   (the first line is the command i used , and the other lines its the output)
[12:39] <Corky_> how do i get USB ports on my VirtualBox running XP?
[12:39] <|WolF1> Can u tell me which program to use for burning?
[12:40] <Fenixon> burning cds/dvds?
[12:40] <|WolF1> yup
[12:40] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, please reboot
[12:40] <sstoveld> k
[12:40] <sstoveld> is there a command to reboot?
[12:40] <Lokii-> reboot
[12:40] <Fenixon> |WolF1: k3b for kde, brasero for gnome
[12:40] <luddite> for burning use k3b - its fantastic
[12:41] <luddite> use it for gnome also ;-)
[12:41] <sstoveld> haha ok
[12:41] <mumu> i am rookie ,
[12:41] <jtravnick> I use gnomebaker
[12:41] <luddite> gnomebaker is lame
[12:41] <|WolF1> ty Fenixon
[12:41] <Svenstaro> will ubuntu get messed up when removing gdm?
[12:42] <jtravnick> i like it does what i want
[12:42] <Corky_> does anyone know anything about virtualbox?
[12:42] <Fenixon> luddite: im using gnome and k3b doesnt in my language
[12:42] <gyaresu> Corky_: ask your question?
[12:42] <luddite> oh sorry - english it does
[12:42] <Corky_> how do i enable my USB ports in VirtualBox?
[12:42] <sstoveld> Svenstaro, still same problem, nothing happens after login
[12:42] <huy> no wireless is killing me, curse broadcom
[12:43] <|WolF1> brasero is ok works fine :)
[12:43] <|WolF1> ty again
[12:43] <julian> does anybody know how to get multichannel in oss to work without vmix? so that i have channel 1 on dev/pcm1 channel two on dev/pcm2 and so on?
[12:43] <Corky_> my GuestOS is XP
[12:43] <Fenixon> no prob
[12:43] <Scunizi> Corky_, http://linuxmini.blogspot.com/2007/10/virtualbox-usb-setting-on-ubuntu-and.html
[12:43] <Corky_> excellent
[12:43] <Corky_> ty
[12:43] <Ernz> Corky_: May I ask what USB devices you are trying to detect on your guest OS?
[12:43] <Svenstaro> sstoveld most likely because we hcanged the rights, on a console do sudo chmod 755 /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:43] <huy> does anyone know if 8.04 will fix the broadcom card problems?
[12:43] <luddite> Question: i have a ubuntu fiesty to ubuntu gusty lan working. they can ping each other and can see each others apache webpages. But the PC without the USB cable connection cant get onto the internet. How do i get it to share? (P.S. Firestarter fails to recognise eth0)
[12:44] <julian> Ernz: i was about to ask the same thing, cause a printer was very hard to get to work.. and its easier to do it via samba or something
[12:44] <KrisWood> ugh, I messed up, how do I change the shell after the user is made? :-/
[12:44] <unop__> kate_mins, I have changed the script and fixed a few syntax errors, download and run this instead, see what happens -- http://pastebin.com/d6de2b66c
[12:44] <jrib> KrisWood: chsh
[12:44] <gyaresu> huy: Try in #ubuntu+1 for 'hardy' issues
[12:45] <sstoveld> hm i dont get the prompt when i ctrl alt backspace
[12:45] <huy> gyaresu: i'm not using hardy
[12:45] <sstoveld> it goes to the black screen with the text, but doesnt show that prompt for me
[12:45] <Svenstaro> yes you need to change to a prompt first and kill gdm manually
[12:45] <stevenroose> i wanna know if it is possible to chech your boot log in a file
[12:45] <gyaresu> huy: Then I'm sorry. I don't know.
[12:45] <unop__> huy, you were in earlier asking about a command with "permission denied" problems, right?
[12:46] <Svenstaro> ctrl alt f2
[12:46] <huy> unop: yeah
[12:46] <sstoveld> oh ok
[12:46] <huy> i can't get wireless to work
[12:46] <unop__> huy, you left before i suggested a workaround -- can you paste that command again?
[12:46] <Ernz> julian: What printer? :)
[12:46] <julian> Ernz: a canon mp220
[12:46] <sstoveld> ok
[12:47] <sstoveld> what do i do after chmod 755?
[12:47] <Ernz> julian: Ah, min was an Epson RX560. It is supported by new CUPS drivers.
[12:47] <Ernz> NOW
[12:47] <Svenstaro> did it change the rights ok?
[12:47] <huy> unop: i don't know how to get it back
[12:47] <sstoveld> looks like it
[12:47] <sstoveld> didnt say any errors
[12:47] <julian> Ernz: canon mp220 isnt supported, but canon has on their australian website a driver for the mp210 which is working fine for the 220
[12:47] <sstoveld> just redisplayed the prompt
[12:47] <unop__> huy, nvm, i found it, this command does the same -- sudo perl -i.bak -ple 's/RadioState\|1/RadioState\|0/' /etc/ndiswrapper/bcmwl5/*.conf
[12:47] <Svenstaro> k, do a sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[12:48] <bosanac> Hello i'm running linux ubuntu 7.10 and i need some program to download some music mp3 some program like bearshare or limewire for linux can somebody tell me ?
[12:48] <unop__> !info frostwire
[12:48] <sstoveld> k done
[12:48] <ubotu> Package frostwire does not exist in gutsy
[12:48] <Svenstaro> worky?
[12:48] <Dr_willis> its not in the repos. :)
[12:48] <unop__> bosanac, check out frostwire and limewire for linux
[12:49] <gyaresu> heh
[12:49] <Dr_willis> !frostwire  | bosanac
[12:49] <ubotu> bosanac: frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[12:49] <sstoveld> nope, cant login :( just stops after i enter password
[12:49] <jtravnick> bosanac, try gtk-gnutella
[12:49] <Svenstaro> Is it safe to remove gdm in ubuntu? anybody know?
[12:49] <gyaresu> (if you're gonna rip off artists the least you can do is get the whole album - via bittorrent)
[12:50] <Starnestommy> Svenstaro: only if you never use the GUI and you don't use Gnome
[12:50] <unop__> Svenstaro, sure, nothing really happens except that you don't have a GUI login window
[12:50] <Svenstaro> Well, I want to omit gdm basically
[12:50] <unop__> Svenstaro, thats fine
[12:50] <Svenstaro> and basically login from console and automatically startx from there
[12:50] <Svenstaro> because obviously gdm gets stuck
[12:50] <unop__> Svenstaro, gnome will continue to work via startx
[12:50] <jtravnick> gyaresu, yea but the only problem with that is theres usaly only two or three songs worth having on the whole cd
[12:51] <Svenstaro> how to I omit it?
[12:51] <unop__> Svenstaro, omit it as in, remove it or stop it from starting up?
[12:51] <Svenstaro> I just dont want it to start
[12:51] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, kill gdm, and try startx from console
[12:51] <Svenstaro> see if it still works
[12:51] <Eric_Jardas> hello
[12:51] <unop__> Svenstaro, use the update-rc.d command to stop it from starting in all runlevels
[12:52] <Svenstaro> that will do the trick? okay
[12:52] <sstoveld> how do i kill gdm?
[12:52] <Eric_Jardas> can anyone help me with configuring backlight on my acer laptop...the backlight is too bright
[12:52] <Svenstaro> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[12:52] <azuki> ouch, need some help on kubuntu... just installed it... and I want to change desktop resulution... but in the desktop-configure there is no DISPLAY-icon.. any other way to change it or to add the Display-icon ??? (thank you)
[12:52] <gyaresu> jtravnick: (you're not idleing in offtopic so i shan't reply :) )
[12:53] <ibback> Hello. A general question for u peoples here. Should i uninstall firefox 2.0.0.12 now that i m using firefox 3.0?
[12:53] <gyaresu> ibback: I did. no problems here.
[12:53] <napi> How do you find a hidden directory? (not using ls -a) I know there's one somewhere but I can't find it lol
[12:53] <sstoveld> hmm no go, now ive got it stuck at some weird coloured screen instead of the normal beige one
[12:53] <unop__> ibback, thats your call, i'd keep in incase i want to use it in some extraordinary case
[12:53] <kate_mins> unop__: i get new error now : bash: /usr/bin/moses-parallel.pl: /usr/bin/perl^M: bad interpreter: No such file or directory
[12:53] <z0man> Hmmm....I'm starting to think of installing Firefox from Mozilla's package
[12:53] <azuki> aw man.. nobody knows ??..
[12:53] <azuki> :(
[12:53] <gyaresu> ibback: Did you install 3 directly or via apt. earlier version via apt was rubbish.
[12:53] <Svenstaro> sstoveld after starting X?
[12:54] <Eric_Jardas> can anyone help me with configuring backlight on my acer laptop
[12:54] <sstoveld> ya
[12:54] <Eric_Jardas> ?
[12:54] <Scunizi> azuki, you shouldl be able to do it from terminal.
[12:54] <jtravnick> gyaresu, thats couse got baned for signing one of my songs and they didnt like it
[12:54] <KrisWood> ok stupiest question of the day, I suspect... How do I find my configuration files for my svn directory if I've forgotten where I put them? >.<
[12:54] <Aquahallic> Mornin' folks
[12:54] <Eric_Jardas> anyone ?
[12:54] <Svenstaro> aw man
[12:54] <jtravnick> couldnt you just use search for files?
[12:54] <azuki> Eric_Jardas: usually you could do it with the hardware
[12:55] <unop__> kate_mins, hmm, what editor did you use to save the file?? make sure it saves the file with unix line endings (\n) rather than ms-dos line endings (\r\n)
[12:55] <gyaresu> azuki: You are using kde. You should try #kubuntu But.... Your res problem is not really because of the window manager you're using (kde). Used linux much?
[12:55] <sstoveld> :(
[12:55] <unop__> kate_mins, or change the shebang line to this -- #!/usr/bin/perl -w
[12:55] <ibback> gyaresu. From synaptic friend...i m using ubuntu gutsy
[12:55] <Eric_Jardas> azuki, I can't :( I can only controll brightness over keyboard
[12:55] <may_> hai
[12:55] <Scunizi> azuki, do a gksudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf and take a look at the top several lines.  You're looking for the line that tells you how  to reset xorg..  Plug that into a terminal and you should have it.
[12:56] <Aquahallic> In my infinite wisdom I removed the clock from my main panel up top on Gutsy... Can someone tell me where on earth I re-enable it??
[12:56] <jtravnick> Eric_Jardas, what kind of laptop is it?
[12:56] <azuki> gyaresu: I am not a guru... I just know there is supposed to be a display-icon rightclicking the desktop.. but there isn't :/
[12:56] <Eric_Jardas> jtravnick, acer travelmate 2410
[12:56] <Svenstaro> have you completely killed X and gdm?
[12:56] <turbough> KrisWood: i know it's not easy but did you try find / -name ".svn" -print| less
[12:56] <gyaresu> azuki: What res 'should' you be. What model monitor?
[12:56] <sstoveld> i believe so
[12:56] <gyaresu> azuki: What are you now?
[12:56] <Scunizi> Aquahallic, right mouse click on the panel up there and choose "add to panel"  you'll find the clock in the resulting window.
[12:57] <sstoveld> i hit ctrl alt backspace then typed what you said to kill gdm
[12:57] <sstoveld> then startx
[12:57] <jtravnick> Eric_Jardas, hold on booting up my laptop its a aspire 3000 so should be preaty close
[12:57] <Aquahallic> kewl.... Thanx Scunizi...;)
[12:57] <Eric_Jardas> jtravnick, ok tnx
[12:57] <azuki> gyaresu: it's working fine on Gnome
[12:57] <Scunizi> Aquahallic, np.. there's other cool stuff in there too.
[12:57] <Svenstaro> sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.yourpreviousbackup /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:58] <Aquahallic> Yeah I see that....:)
[12:58] <Aquahallic> Thank You again!!
[12:58] <Sherry> hello,everyone
[12:58] <turbough> KrisWood: are you trying to find the repository?
[12:58] <KrisWood> turbough, I didn't even know that was possible :-/
[12:58] <KrisWood> no, I'm trying to find the .htpasswd
[12:58] <huy> unop: i think i know the problem now. with acpi=off the wireless card is nto associated with irq, so no matterwhat i do, i wont' be able to turn it on
[12:58] <turbough> the repo should have a file named hooks in it
[12:59] <Aquahallic> now all I have to do is fix my Hardy install... got that 386 problem... and I commented out the 386 kernels in my menu.lst and then got an initramfs prompt.. so I can't boot back into the 386 kernel to fix it.....LOL
[12:59] <turbough> which seems fairly unique
[12:59] <KrisWood> and the conf file while I'm at it
[12:59] <jtravnick> Eric_Jardas, k its booted will look around have never done anything with the back light before
[12:59] <unop__> huy, thats possible
[12:59] <Aquahallic> I'm a victim of myself....:P
[12:59] <Eric_Jardas> jtravnick, the light is good on your laptop ?
[12:59] <turbough> KrisWood: try find / -name hooks -print | less
[12:59] <Sherry> I'm new here,could anyone tell me how to use it?
[12:59] <unop__> KrisWood, find / -iname ".htpasswd" | less   maybe?
[12:59] <huy> unop: i saw that error when i tried ndiswrapper, and i just read that in some forum
[12:59] <jtravnick> Eric_Jardas, yea never had a problem with it
[13:00] <Scunizi> Aquahallic, what kernel are you booting to?
[13:00] <Eric_Jardas> jtravnick, I only found a way to change brightness and gamma...but can't change contrast nor backlight
[13:00] <azuki> I will try reboot-reinstall-reboot..
[13:00] <huy> unop: i may try their tricks to see how that works. no clue, but will try anyway :-D
[13:00] <azuki> thnx sofar...
[13:00] <Aquahallic> It's on another machine..
[13:00] <KrisWood> I got a black screen :(
[13:00] <Eric_Jardas> the light is good on the upper part but the part below is too bright
[13:00] <unop__> huy, thats the linux spirit :)
[13:00] <Svenstaro> sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.yourpreviousbackup /etc/X11/xorg.conf sstoveld
[13:00] <kate_mins> unop__: i just pressed on the download button at pastbin.com and replace the old script , now i get new error msg "sh: qsub not found" -  http://pastebin.com/mfc4d837
[13:01] <turbough> KrisWood: my irc client bounces when you include my name on a line. what exactly are you trying to do?
[13:01] <Scunizi> Aquahallic, when you get to it you should be able to boot with a live cd and redo your sources list.. maybe then
[13:01] <Aquahallic> I had Gutsy on it.. took the Hardy upgrade... now the only kernels I have are generic and recovery on there..
[13:01] <sstoveld> Svenstaro, not working, says cp: cannot stat '/etc/X11/xorg.conf.WORKING_DONT_TOUCH_OR_DIE': No such file or directory
[13:01] <Aquahallic> yeah.. I was gonna just boot it with knoppix and go in and edit it back so I can get back into the 386 kernel and update initramfs
[13:01] <Toznoshio> Q: is it normal for two applications to lock each other out of using the sound subsystem (alsa)?
[13:01] <KrisWood> turbough, trying to locate my .htaccess file for my svn site
[13:01] <sstoveld> do i have the wrong filename?
[13:01] <Eric_Jardas> jtravnick, any luck ?
[13:02] <Svenstaro> sstoveld do a ls -lh to /etc/X11 and see which files are there
[13:02] <jtravnick> Eric_Jardas, nope not so far did you try the bios?
[13:02] <unop__> kate_mins, qsub seems to be some external command in this case -- it might be an executable part of this "moses" thing
[13:02] <Scunizi> Aquahallic, you sound like an old pro at this stuff.. I often feel like a babe in the woods.
[13:02] <kaelkies> habe riesenprobleme mit meinem web.de e-mail account: sende ich eine e-mail, kommt postwendend die meldung, dies sei nicht erfolgt. nach klick auf "passwort vergessen" führt zu einem ersatz password auf meinen alternativen account. nach anwendung dieses ersatzpasswortes (strg+c strg+v) erhalte ich die gleiche meldung "nicht erfolgt" wie vo
[13:02] <huy> unop, you know how to disable the service cpuspeed?
[13:02] <unop__> !de | kaelkies
[13:02] <ubotu> kaelkies: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[13:02] <turbough> KrisWood: so you set up a remote svn repository using http auth? does it use dav or just http?
[13:03] <Aquahallic> noooooo I'm not.. I'm REAL new to linux... thus I blew up my box....hahaha
[13:03] <Eric_Jardas> jtravnick, the bios installed has very little options..no options for that...maybe I should install some other bios ?
[13:03] <unop__> huy, you can do -- sudo /etc/init,d/cpuspeed stop
[13:03] <Aquahallic> I've just broken plenty so I learn pretty quick....:)
[13:03] <turbough> KrisWood: did you set up a virtual host like svn.myhost.com? info on the passwd file should be in the virtualhost somewhere
[13:03] <KrisWood> turbough, no clue, it's been several months and now I can't find the tutorial I used in the first place
[13:03] <KrisWood> turbough, I set it up as a vitual host using sites-available
[13:03] <jtravnick> Eric_Jardas, could see if theres a new one for it
[13:03] <Eric_Jardas> jtravnick, going to a conference this weekend..I'm going to loose my eyes programming with this backlight
[13:04] <KrisWood> turbough, but I don't remember how I did that now
[13:04] <sstoveld> ok got it
[13:04] <sstoveld> done
[13:04] <sstoveld> now startx?
[13:04] <Scunizi> Aquahallic, I did in  the beginning  a couple years ago but my machine is also my production work machine so I'm real reluctant to break it..... at least on purpose messing around
[13:04] <turbough> KrisWood: you should drink less beer. :P
[13:04] <Svenstaro> yes
[13:04] <huy> unop, it says command not found
[13:04] <Sherry> hi
[13:04] <turbough> KrisWood: do you remember the name of the repository?
[13:04] <KrisWood> turbough, I don't drink any, but I don't log into my linux server except when something goes wrong, which doesn't happen often ;)
[13:04] <sstoveld> still same thing, do i need to start gdm?
[13:04] <Svenstaro> hell no
[13:04] <KrisWood> turbough, yes, I do
[13:04] <Aquahallic> I only started using linux to run mythtv...:)
[13:04] <unop__> huy, what does this return?  ls -l /etc/inid.d/*cpu*
[13:04] <Svenstaro> man this is getting interesting
[13:05] <sstoveld> lol
[13:05] <turbough> on the linux server can you do a find / -name reponamehere -print
[13:05] <Aquahallic> now I love it though.. and it's my primary os on my laptop....
[13:05] <huy> unop,, i got sudo: /etc/init.d/cpuspeed: command not found
[13:05] <jtravnick> Eric_Jardas, im not seeing anything in ubuntu for changing the back light course i am blind in one eye
[13:05] <unop__> huy, see my last post
[13:06] <Scunizi> Aquahallic, I can't get away from win & ie6 unfortuantly.. needed for work sites
[13:06] <Eric_Jardas> jtravnick, what about changing contrast ?
[13:06] <huy> unop, it says there's no such file or directory
[13:06] <Aquahallic> me too.. I just use a VM when I have to use it.. I also have my work laptop and that has all my domain admin stuff on it...:P
[13:06] <KrisWood> turbough, I know where the repo is stored but the .htpasswd and .htaccess files aren't stored there
[13:06] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, what exactly happens?
[13:07] <unop__> huy, it appears that the cpuspeed service isn't installed on your system
[13:07] <Svenstaro> also could you post your xorg.conf again?
[13:07] <turbough> KrisWood what's the url you use to check out the file?
[13:07] <Scunizi> Aquahallic, yep  vm works good.. that's my solution too
[13:07] <sstoveld> how do i post it? i cant login to ubuntu
[13:07] <jtravnick> Eric_Jardas, only thing im finding is resolution
[13:07] <KrisWood> turbough, it's not a public svn so I'd rather not go posting it around hehe
[13:07] <unop__> KrisWood, find /path/to/repo -iname .ht* | less
[13:08] <sstoveld> when i type in startx, it just goes to this odd coloured screen and stops there, i can move my mouse, but nothing loads or anything
[13:08] <Svenstaro> err, people, how can you submit to pastebin from command line again?
[13:08] <jtravnick> and i need to get going have to be at the DMV when they open so i wont be there all day
[13:08] <Eric_Jardas> jtravnick, i tryed 800x600 and 1024x768 and it is still the same
[13:08] <turbough> KrisWood what's the beginning of the url? is it https, ssh+svn ?
[13:08] <unop__> Svenstaro, pastebinit
[13:08] <Svenstaro> ah right thanks
[13:08] <unop__> Svenstaro, the package needs to be installed tho
[13:08] <Jaffarkelshac> sstoveld: are you using ubuntu
[13:08] <KrisWood> turbough, http
[13:08] <sstoveld> yes
[13:09] <KrisWood> turbough, I never found a way to get https working
[13:09] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, sudo apt-get install pastebinit && cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | pastebinit
[13:09] <Jaffarkelshac> i think i have the same problem as well, is it on a laptop
[13:09] <huy> thanks unop
[13:09] <huy> i'll restart now
[13:09] <unop__> k
[13:09] <turbough> KrisWood: i would look in my httpd.conf file if your svn address is http://svn.myhost.com/project then look for a virtual host called svn
[13:10] <sstoveld> E: dpkg was interrupterd, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem
[13:10] <Svenstaro> well do so
[13:10] <maghettino> #ubuntu-it
[13:10] <KrisWood> turbough, I have it in its own conf file using sites-available but don't remember how to find that conf file
[13:10] <turbough> KrisWood: basically figure out where the svn url points to on your real FS and find the .htaccess file in there or look in the httpd.conf for where it's set
[13:11] <sstoveld> k
[13:11] <algyz> sstoveld:  so run it manually
[13:11] <KrisWood> turbough, there is not .htaccess in the svn directory
[13:11] <Scunizi> Svenstaro, what is pastebinit?  does it make it easier to paste to the pastebin?  command line  only?
[13:11] <Svenstaro> yes
[13:11] <KrisWood> turbough, and I can't find the conf file
[13:11] <Scunizi> nice
[13:11] <turbough> try locate httpd.conf
[13:11] <turbough> it should be in /etc/httpd/something
[13:11] <julian> does anybody know how to get multichannel in oss to work without vmix? so that i have channel 1 on dev/pcm1 channel two on dev/pcm2 and so on?
[13:12] <KrisWood> only /etc/apache2/httpd.conf but that just means the locate database hasn't been rebuilt since the files were made
[13:13] <turbough> KrisWood: you are not using apache2?
[13:13] <alex12> would anyone know why, or give clues, as to why suddenly after a simple system restart, one of my dual head monitors number 2 - suddenly switches from the default resolution of, 1920x1200 to 1600x1200 .... when i havent even changed my xorg.conf or drivers or whatever ....... both screens were running fine in dual head spanning desktop, both running 1920x1200 - and now 1920x1200 and 1600x1200 ?????? - xor
[13:13] <alex12> g.conf looks perfectly fine....
[13:14] <KrisWood> turbough, I am, but I used sites-available to make a seperate conf file for each site
[13:14] <KrisWood> turbough, I don't remember where it puts them
[13:14] <turbough> KrisWood: there should be a AuthUserFile setting in your httpd.conf. check out http://svnbook.red-bean.com/en/1.0/ch06s04.html
[13:14] <KrisWood> turbough, that's the problem, I don't remember where the conf is for that site
[13:14] <turbough> KrisWood: should be in /etc/apache2/extra
[13:14] <unop__> KrisWood, /etc/apache2/sites-available :)
[13:14] <turbough> or extras
[13:15] <turbough> unop__: that makes too much sense :)
[13:15] <RochJer> Hello ya-ll - I am having problems getting DVD movies to run in VLC and totem as well
[13:15] <KrisWood> ah found it, thanks unop__!
[13:15] <RochJer> I have already downloaded libdvdcss2 and everything
[13:15] <KrisWood> unop__, nothing in there about auth or svn though :(
[13:15] <sstoveld> hmm
[13:16] <KrisWood> hmmmm httpd.conf is empty
[13:16] <sstoveld> says unmet dependecies when i try the pastebin now
[13:16] <unop__> KrisWood, i'm not very conversant with svn -- turbough knows better
[13:16] <HeRo^^> Hi, how can i run admin manager in ubutnu, like i have created new use and the user have no priviliges to volume??
[13:16] <T045T> Hi, can somebody tell me if/where I can get additional layouts for onBoard? I am aware that it's not really hard to create custom ones, but I don't want to do the same work someone else already has
[13:16] <KRF> is there some localtion where i can add commands which are exectued after resume from suspend?
[13:16] <KrisWood> ah, it's apache2.conf hehe
[13:16] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, do you by any chance have a router?
[13:16] <sstoveld> yeah
[13:17] <Svenstaro> can you forward port 21 to your machine please
[13:17] <turbough> KrisWood: try find /etc/apache2 -exec grep -H AuthUserFile {} \;
[13:17] <Svenstaro> port 22, sorry
[13:17] <turbough> that should grep every file for AuthUserFile which is what we're looking for
[13:17] <Svenstaro> tcp that is
[13:17] <unop__> turbough, why not grep recursively? -- grep -inHR AuthUserFile /etc/apache2/*  :)
[13:18] <turbough> unop__:  everyone has their ways :)
[13:18] <KrisWood> turbough, dav.svn.conf
[13:18] <turbough> unop__: to tell the truth i use find out of habit in case i'm grepping a network fs
[13:19] <turbough> unop__: and i happen to be using a file pattern as well
[13:19] <KrisWood> ah ha! AuthUserFile /etc/subversion/passwd
[13:19] <sstoveld> k done
[13:19] <turbough> w00t!
[13:19] <KrisWood> now to remember how to use htpassd hehe
[13:19] <turbough> KrisWood: what are you keeping in svn?
[13:19]  * KrisWood reads the man page
[13:19] <unop__> turbough, i just think to think thats an expensive way of using grep -- but anyway , and a recursive grep should work over a network fs, dont see why not, and you can use file pattersn as well :)
[13:19] <turbough> KrisWood: and dude. you should really set up ssl.
[13:20] <nilminus_> I am trying to kill a process with "kill -9 <pid_here>" but it wont die . I have the required privileges. What could be the problem ?
[13:20] <KrisWood> turbough, an amateur game dev team's source code
[13:20] <nicolas> Good morning folks, I have a VNC issue.  I have two boxes configured with tightvncserver.  One I can access normally with it's IP.  The other, I can only access on display 1 (ie: 10.0.0.1:1) which means I dont get the Metacity WM.  Can anyone help me out?
[13:20] <Scunizi> nilminus use sudo
[13:20] <Hssn> how should we restart XGL server?
[13:20] <jojojo> Hello, I'm from Ubuntu.
[13:21] <jojojo> And say HELLO.
[13:21] <turbough> unop__:  this may be fixed with just a switch but i found that grep wouldn't recurse into directories that didn't match the file pattern. so if i did *.c it wouldn't recurse into directories unless they were named something.c
[13:21] <sstoveld> Svenstaro, im back in, logged in now
[13:21] <sstoveld> Svenstaro, not sure what i did lol
[13:21] <alex12> would anyone know why, with a perfectly working xorg conf, posted at: http://dpaste.com/41169/ -- would then, after a system reboot, suddenly make screen1 - only run at 1600x1200 and not 1920x1200 .... ? xorg.conf hasnt changed for months, and drivers havent changed either. would someone care to explain why one of my monitors run at 1920x1200 , while the other 1600 x 1200?
[13:21] <Svenstaro> ??
[13:21] <turbough> KrisWood: just open source it and don't worry about the ssl :)
[13:21] <jojojo> sstoveld: YOU LYE.
[13:22] <sstoveld> jojojo, nope!
[13:22] <jojojo> yehp!
[13:22] <Svenstaro> so wtf did you do?
[13:22] <foldart_> nicolas: is that box running vino-server (System -> Preferences -> Remote Desktop)?
[13:22] <sstoveld> lol
[13:22] <jojojo> L0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0oo0o0o0o0L
[13:22] <Juhaz> !ops | jojojo
[13:22] <ubotu> jojojo: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow or nickrud!
[13:22] <sstoveld> well when the pastebinit thing didnt work, it told me to run some command, than that
[13:22] <jojojo> xO
[13:22] <jojojo> Bye
[13:22] <sstoveld> ran that*
[13:22] <sstoveld> then tried pastebin again, didnt work
[13:22] <eegore> vista has reason to be scared
[13:22] <sstoveld> told me to run another command, ran it
[13:22] <eegore> I just plugged a printer at work to this lappy and it installed the drivers perfectly without manually configuration
[13:23] <sstoveld> then tried pastebin one more time, the did startx
[13:23] <eegore> UDEV on steroids
[13:23] <sstoveld> and im in
[13:23] <jin> why is firefox beta 3 still not in the repo?
[13:23] <Svenstaro> uhm
[13:23] <Svenstaro> okay
[13:23] <KrisWood> turbough, they have ambitions of some day selling their game though :D
[13:23] <sstoveld> and now pc just shut itself off
[13:23] <sstoveld> uhh
[13:23] <unop> jin, iirc, its in the hardy repos
[13:23] <Svenstaro> well lets make sure gdm doesnt get in our way anymore and fix this for good
[13:23] <nicolas> foldart_: Im not sure, its a standard Ubuntu install+updates+tightvncserver just like the other.  Im not at the box now Im only VNCed to it.  Let me check
[13:23] <sstoveld> pc wont power on now
[13:23] <amigo> HI! How to disable keyboard configure at boot time? Ubuntu set tai keyboard for me, but I need english :(
[13:23] <sstoveld> lol
[13:23] <Exteris> jin, it is in the repo
[13:23] <jin> unop, yea, but  why not in Gutsy? there are a lot of ppl using Gutsy :\
[13:24] <Svenstaro> I'm starting to think someones making fun of me now
[13:24] <KrisWood> turbough, ok I've successfully added a user to SVN that has no ability to log in to any other part of the system (though I think it still might let them into ftp dunno....)
[13:24] <jin> Exteris: not beta 3 release
[13:24] <sstoveld> ?
[13:24] <Exteris> jin, firefox-3.0
[13:24] <eegore> hardy still alpha or did it go beta
[13:24] <Exteris> last time i checked that was beta 3
[13:24] <unop> jin, errm, it might take sometime before it gets in the gutsy backports
[13:24] <jin> Exteris: that is not beta 3
[13:24] <Exteris> jin, i'll check
[13:25] <sstoveld> ;/ maybe my hd is dying
[13:25] <sstoveld> this is what happened before when i had to reformat
[13:25] <Svenstaro> dude
[13:25] <turbough> KrisWood: do you want help setting up ssl?
[13:25] <foldart_> nicolas: hm, unlikely to be activated then, you can check with 'ps auxw | grep vino-server'
[13:25] <RickJames> i've hit a hot key and could some one tell me what i've done? i was trying to place underscores in a file name, and now all the pop up windws (ie applications,system, preferances) as well as right clicking a file all expand so slow i can count to 5 before they pop up. how do i reverse this ?
[13:25] <KRF> found it
[13:25] <sstoveld> pc would shut off when i launched hellgate and wouldnt power on unless i pulled plug for 10 seconds
[13:26] <KrisWood> turbough, not now, thanks, gotta get to work
[13:26] <Svenstaro> sstoveld thats a fricken heat problem you got there
[13:26] <Svenstaro> rip the case open
[13:26] <turbough> KrisWood: right on. good luck.
[13:26] <nicolas> foldart_:  lol I just checked yea.  Both have vino-session running but only the functioning box has /usr/lib/vino/vino-server
[13:26] <sstoveld> whats overheating? cpu?
[13:26] <Svenstaro> probably
[13:26] <nicolas> foldart_: Do you know how I can start it and ensure it will always start on system reboot?
[13:27] <Svenstaro> now open that thing and leave it open
[13:27] <sstoveld> is there a program i can run to measure the temp?
[13:27] <sstoveld> like speedfan
[13:27] <RickJames> sstoveld, i like sensors-applet
[13:27] <RickJames> but you can use mbmon
[13:28] <nicolas> sstoveld: try this: cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THM/temperature
[13:28] <jetscreamer> apt-get install lmsensors and run sensors-detect, then run sensors
[13:28] <KrisWood> Speaking of work, time for me to run out the door, have a good day everyone
[13:28] <jetscreamer> or is it lm-sensors
[13:28] <KrisWood> turbough and unop__ thanks for all the help!!
[13:28] <Exteris> jin, you're right, it's alpha8
[13:28] <Svenstaro> its lm_sensors even
[13:28] <jetscreamer> o
[13:29] <jin> Exteris: I think the beta 3 release is in backports. installing right now
[13:29] <sstoveld> yeah, it did it again :(
[13:29] <sstoveld> powered off
[13:29] <foldart_> nicolas: it's configured via (System -> Preferences -> Remote Desktop), not sure which file that updates though
[13:29] <jin> Exteris: got beta 3 now :-)
[13:30] <jin> ff3 b3 is alot faster :-)
[13:30] <Exteris> jin, nice :P, do you know when 3.0 comes out ?
[13:30] <nicolas> foldart_: ok thanks mate.
[13:30] <jin> Exteris: no idea.
[13:31] <rinaldi_> Exteris: they said it wil be out when its ready, hopefully by 8.04 :)
[13:31] <Exteris> rinaldi_, thanks
[13:31] <jetscreamer> sstoveld: try cleaning the heatsink under your cpufan
[13:31] <Dr_Link> I tried Google, I'm looking for a printer driver for my USB printer, HP Photosmart 2610xi.
[13:31] <Dr_Link> Where can I get one?
[13:31] <jetscreamer> !info hplip
[13:31] <ubotu> hplip (source: hplip): HP Linux Printing and Imaging System (HPLIP). In component main, is optional. Version 2.7.7.dfsg.1-0ubuntu5 (gutsy), package size 283 kB, installed size 688 kB
[13:31] <jetscreamer> http://linux.hp.com/
[13:32] <foldart_> nicolas: yw
[13:32] <Scunizi> sstoveld, you can also reapply the thermal paste between the heatsink and cpu
[13:32] <jetscreamer> that too
[13:32] <SliMM> my ubuntu doesn't mount a cd drive
[13:32] <co_ckp_keabisan_> okey
[13:32] <Dr_Link> jetscreamer: It's not loading for me.
[13:32] <Dr_Link> linux.hp.com
[13:33] <sureshot> hey where is the logfile for apache on Ubuntu 7.10`?
[13:33] <peter-> Hi
[13:33] <SliMM> what could be the problem?
[13:33] <Starnestommy> sureshot: /var/log/apache2/
[13:33] <jetscreamer> http://h71028.www7.hp.com/enterprise/cache/309906-0-0-0-121.html?jumpid=go/linux
[13:33] <squishy> hello i've got a problem with my wlan usb stick: the device shows up as installed in "ndiswrapper -l" but not in ifconfig
[13:33] <Sinnerman> of late gnome/nautilus has taken to showing me two icons for one mounted data dvd. consistently! i know it's that's already made it to launchpad, but it's weird it's so consistent.
[13:33] <squishy> and i cant get an internet connection
[13:33] <jetscreamer> Dr_Link: ^^
[13:34] <sureshot> Starnestommy: oki will check.,, ty
[13:34] <rinaldi_> squishy: try iwconfig, if not do sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[13:34] <Peter-> Does anyone know what is the problem. I launched urban terror (game). I played for while. It crashed. I shutted pc down. Now i launch it, it doesnt have any sounds. I have Ubuntu Hardy.
[13:34] <rinaldi_> try in #ubuntu+1 Peter-
[13:35] <Peter-> Okay
[13:35] <squishy> doesnt show up in iwconfig and the kernel module is loaded
[13:35] <nicolas> squishy: Does the interface show up in ifconfig?  What kind of wireless card?
[13:35] <SliMM> is there a way to find out the reason why ubuntu doesn't mount my cd drive?
[13:35] <squishy> nicolas: it doesnt show up in ifconfig either
[13:36] <squishy> nicolas: it's a-quip wlan usb stick
[13:36] <jetscreamer> Dr_Link: http://hplip.sourceforge.net/supported_devices/index.html
[13:36] <sstoveld> if i can ever remember how to get this damn heatsink off...
[13:36] <squishy> (the device + driver is listed here: http://www.pataco.de/htm/services/services_downloads_de.htm)
[13:36] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, im gonnab e afk for a bit, I wish you good luck maybe some people on this channel can help you. To disable GDM do this "sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove"
[13:37] <Scunizi> sstoveld, hammer and chissel sometimes..
[13:37] <sstoveld> thanks for all the help man, i appreciate it
[13:37] <sstoveld> im gonna be going to bed soon myself
[13:37] <sstoveld> already 9 30
[13:37] <squishy> it appears everywhere in the proper places, just not in ifconfig/iwconfig
[13:37] <Scunizi> sstoveld, 6am here
[13:37] <rinaldi_> squishy: did you do ndiswrapper -m?
[13:37] <SliMM> ok, fine, what about hibernating? my pc doesn't start well after hibernating
[13:37] <sstoveld> western us?
[13:38] <squishy> rinaldi_: yes
[13:38] <Scunizi> sstoveld, yep
[13:38] <gaE4> can anyone help me install this PLZ?! http://jdownloader.ath.cx/download.php
[13:38] <llima> Hello, channel. I hope everyone is all ok.
[13:38] <sstoveld> ah, eastern here
[13:38] <SliMM> i.e. i get a black screen and i have to reboot it
[13:38] <sstoveld> buffalo
[13:38] <squishy> i already tried different windows driver versions (98, ME, XP) as advised on some forums, but it never shows up on ifconfig
[13:39] <Scunizi> sstoveld, a little to cold for me.. it'll be 75-80 to day here
[13:39] <llima> I wanted to know one thing about the new version: There's one package (http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/i386/freeradius-postgresql/download) that exists in the new (8.04) version, but not in < 8. Can I use the new package in my current (7.*) system?
[13:39] <sstoveld> about a high of 27 for us today
[13:39] <jpatrick> llima: no, due to differences in toolchain, etc
[13:39] <rinaldi_> squishy: hmm not sure then if it's not in iwconfig, have you asked in #ndiswrapper? it can be quiet there but theyve helped me before
[13:40] <Scunizi> sstoveld, gives you a lot more compter time.. spring is here and the honey do list is getting long
[13:40] <W8TAH> where does one go to offer input on hardy heron beta 4?  im running it and would like to talk to the appropriate people
[13:40] <Pici> W8TAH: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Hardy/8.04 support/discussion.
[13:40] <W8TAH> cool - thanks
[13:40] <squishy> rinaldi_: i'll try, thanks :)
[13:40] <LupoBluAlfa> thanks
[13:40] <llima> jpatrick: thanks. so, I'd have to wait for hardy's release in 30 days?
[13:40] <jin> I have to reload ide_disk manually each time I start my pc to be able to see my partitions on my ATA drive, otherwise there is only /dev/hda and no /dev/hda1 . any idea? how to fix this?
[13:40] <Scunizi> W8TAH, #ubuntu+1?
[13:40] <jpatrick> llima: yep
[13:40] <W8TAH> Pici, channel doesnt exist
[13:40] <llima> jpatrick: ok! thanks a lot!
[13:40] <LupoBluAlfa> w8tah ubuntu 1?
[13:40] <sstoveld> omg i cant get this stupid heatsink off, hammer and chisel is sounding good right about now
[13:40] <jpatrick> llima: you're most welcome
[13:41] <Pici> W8TAH: I assure you, #ubuntu+1 does exist, I'm in there with ~300 other people
[13:41] <LupoBluAlfa> ciao ragazzi
[13:41] <LupoBluAlfa> come butta
[13:41] <Scunizi> W8TAH, I'm in there now.. it's there.
[13:41] <W8TAH> * ubuntu+1 :That channel doesn't exist
[13:41] <zkjellberg> Question: Are there any pci/pci-e wireless cards that are easily recognized by Ubuntu?
[13:41] <LupoBluAlfa> cosa dai un po d allegria su le mani
[13:42] <Scunizi> W8TAH, /join #ubuntu+1
[13:42] <Exteris> W8TAH, it has a # before it
[13:42] <W8TAH> i musta typoed
[13:42] <W8TAH> sorry guys
[13:42] <Scunizi> W8TAH, quit hamming around  with us :)
[13:43] <W8TAH> sorry
[13:43] <kate_mins> unop__: are you here ?
[13:44] <rinaldi_> zkjellberg: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[13:44] <zkjellberg> rinaldi_: thanx
[13:45] <neos857> hi
[13:45] <tyron> hi i am trying to get sound working on toshiba a200 and getting error when trying to make update for alsa
[13:45] <NEOS> tyron
[13:45] <nicolas> foldart_: FYI - you can configure it by running vino-preference
[13:46] <foldart_> nicolas: cool, thanks :)
[13:46] <rinaldi_> zkjellberg: i have netgear wg511 v3 and it works great with ndiswrapper, but im not sure about ones that work truly "out of the box"
[13:46] <T045T> umm, is there a way to change font color in onBoard?
[13:46] <tyron> yeah
[13:46] <Codenut> When I start an application called sunclock using a terminal, it runs.
[13:47] <Codenut> When I close the terminal, it goes away.
[13:47] <Codenut> I am using gnome as my desktop
[13:47] <chdst> Codenut: This is normal behavior. Since you're running the app in the terminal, closing the terminal closes the app.
[13:47] <san|> Codenut: start it with 'sunclock &'
[13:48] <Codenut> How do I get it to run at my desktop
[13:48] <T045T> tyron: okay, the question was badly phrased S-: how do you do it?
[13:48] <Scunizi> see the line above yours Codenut
[13:48] <sstoveld> ok guys, im going to sleep
[13:48] <sstoveld> thanks for the help everyone
[13:48] <Lamego> actually he needs to "nohup app&"
[13:49] <sjoerd>    
[13:49] <Lamego> just running it on the background will not avoid it beeing terminated
[13:49] <tyron> sorry, im using this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=473425
[13:49] <chdst> san|: That won't completely do it...nm. Lamego's on the ball. :)
[13:49] <rinaldi_> Codenut: do ctrl+f2 and enter you command there
[13:49] <Sinnerman> rinaldi_: isn't that alt+f2?
[13:50] <foldart_> Codenut: To run it each time you log into the Desktop, add it to System -> Preferences -> Sessions, Startup Programs tab
[13:50] <Eric_Jardas> can someone help me with xbacklight ? I don't know how to set it for my device ? the option is -d but I don't know what do i need to pass to xbacklight -d ?
[13:50] <Hssn> you know that www.youtube.com is filtered here but uk.youtube.com or ca. ones are not filtered. the probelm is that I can reach these site in windows but not in Ubuntu. with the same ADSL account & same version of firefox and extesion. nothing happend when I enter uk.youtueb.com. have any idea?
[13:51] <rinaldi_> Sinnerman: oops sorry :P
[13:51] <rinaldi_> Codenut: yeh alt+f2
[13:51] <Sinnerman> rinaldi_: half the time i use it, i go ctrl+f2 anyway :P common mistake. for my at any rate.
[13:51] <NEOS> #Neos
[13:52] <rinaldi_> Sinnerman: yeh same, not sure why I do it though...
[13:52] <NEOS> or #XPPOD
[13:52] <Lamego> NEOS, do you need any help ?
[13:52] <ader10> Is it possible to force install from repositories? I need the packages nxdesktop and nxviewer, and there aren't any candidates. (I'm on hardy)
[13:52] <Lamego> ader10, you can't for an install for package which is not available :)
[13:52] <NEOS> NO
[13:52] <Lamego> force
[13:52] <NEOS> no
[13:53] <azuki> anybody here know how to get compiz running on KDE.. ?
[13:53] <NEOS> no
[13:53] <NEOS> n
[13:53] <NEOS> no
[13:53] <NEOS> no
[13:53] <NEOS> no
[13:53] <NEOS> no
[13:53] <FloodBot2> NEOS: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:53] <NEOS> no
[13:53] <Eric_Jardas> can someone help me with xbacklight ? I don't know how to set it for my device. the option is -d but I don't know what do i need to pass to xbacklight -d ?
[13:53] <hwilde> azuki, it's easy it's the same as gnome
[13:53] <Pici> !guidelines > neos (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[13:53] <hwilde> !compiz | azuki
[13:53] <azuki> hwilde: I just installed KDE.. but the compiz doesn't work... the menu is there.. but it's doesn't effect
[13:53] <ubotu> azuki: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[13:54] <ader10> Lamego: It's availible :P
[13:54] <NEOS>   hi pici
[13:54] <Lamego> ader10, didn't understand your question, why do you need to force it ?
[13:54] <stephan> hi
[13:54] <Codenut> It it is in my gnome start up script will reboot and see what happens.
[13:54] <hwilde> Eric_Jardas, man xbacklight
[13:55] <Codenut> Thank you all
[13:55] <stephan> HELLO
[13:55] <NAiL> I'm trying to install Xen on my gutsy installation, but I'm running into problems when running lilo to update the mbr. It complains "Fatal: Kernel /vmlinuz is too big", even though the xen kernel is slightly smaller than the kernel I am currently running. Anyone got a clue to hit me with?
[13:55] <stephan> are y'all dutch?
[13:55] <Scosta> help meeee
[13:55] <hwilde> azuki, make sure you get all the updates
[13:55] <stephan> i mean english
[13:55] <hwilde> !dutch | stephan
[13:55] <ubotu> stephan: Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[13:55] <stephan> kkwilde eem kontneukn?:D
[13:55] <stephan> :P
[13:55] <Scosta> spanish
[13:55] <stephan> spanish/ wauw
[13:55] <stephan> :D
[13:55] <Pici> !es | stephan
[13:55] <ubotu> stephan: En este canal, solamente hablamos ingles. Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[13:55] <stephan> !spanish
[13:55] <stephan> !es
[13:55] <stephan> !es | dutch
[13:55] <ubotu> dutch: En este canal, solamente hablamos ingles. Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[13:56] <stephan> !dutch | Stephan
[13:56] <hwilde> stephan, you can play with the bot in private /msg ok
[13:56] <stephan> ok
[13:56] <stephan> thank you
[13:56] <Sinnerman> hmm... bit daft today, eh?
[13:56] <stephan> i go play now
[13:56] <Scosta> es en espanol
[13:56] <bazhang> stephan: you can /msg ubotu if you want please stop here
[13:56] <hwilde> !botabuse
[13:56] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[13:56] <Scosta> spanishhh
[13:56] <stephan> I GO PLAY NOW
[13:56] <ader10> Lamego: I don't need to force it if there's any package that's compatible, but I haven't found one and that's the only way I can remotely share my desktop session
[13:56] <stephan> i have lego
[13:56] <Scosta> mama vergas
[13:57] <tyron> i rephrasing my question..i am trying to get sound on toshiba a200 using this link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=473425   and im getting this error when doing su make http://tyspics.com/error.txt
[13:59] <x3on> hey, I just logged into my gnome desktop (using gutsy) and some things seemed to have changed, I assume from the small update I did before i logged out. The entire desktop looks different, new icons etc. Not a problem. I cant lock the screen or switch users anymore though....
[13:59] <erUSUL> tyron: try a more recent version of alsa 1.0.9 seems a bit old (1.0.15 perhaps)
[13:59] <narothepharoh> #Xubuntu
[14:01] <tyron> thanks trying now
[14:02] <Scunizi> did we just have a net split?
[14:02] <Exteris> Scunizi, didn't notice
[14:02] <lartza_> can i temporilary cahnge the terminal to white on black?
[14:03] <msingh> lartza_, xterm -rv
[14:03] <lartza_> found it already, with profiles
[14:03] <msingh> that's not temporary
[14:04] <Scunizi> Exteris, things just got pretty quiet with lots of "joined" and "left" messages
[14:04] <tourist-tam> trying to install ubuntu on virtualpc2004 the screen resolution is totally f'd up
[14:04] <lartza_> msingh: changing the proflie back after
[14:05] <Exteris> ya they were Scunizi
[14:05] <nico_> i need help with amule :(
[14:05] <bazhang> tourist-tam: best to try vmware-server or virtualbox for that
[14:06] <tourist-tam> bazhang: oki i'll try that; thanks
[14:06] <term__> hello. what is the command to see what exact vid card w/specs and to see if i have 3d rendering enabled?
[14:06] <bazhang> nico_: you need to ask an actual question first
[14:06] <hwilde> term__, lspci -vvv
[14:06] <rinaldi_> nico_: what with?
[14:07] <term__> hwilde,  thats alot of info lol
[14:07] <Scunizi> term__, you can also run glxgears
[14:08] <term__> term@term-desktop:~$ glxgears
[14:08] <term__> 1274 frames in 6.4 seconds = 199.170 FPS
[14:08] <nico_> im downloading about 2kb/s and ive already opened ports, im uploading at about 50 kb/s :S
[14:08] <fevel> hello
[14:08] <term__> Scunizi,  hows that look
[14:08] <Scunizi> term__, ok from here..
[14:08] <nico_> im new using all this software, amule, ubuntu :s
[14:09] <erUSUL> term__: glxinfo | grep direct
[14:09] <term__> is there a command to show what exact vid card you have with mem sticks
[14:09] <aquila> alguem Br aí?
[14:09] <bazhang> !br
[14:09] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[14:09] <term__> direct rendering: No (If you want to find out why, try setting LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose)
[14:09] <term__> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[14:09] <Scunizi> !p2p | nico_,
[14:09] <ubotu> nico_,: Peer-to-peer filesharing clients are available for several networks/protocols, including !BitTorrent, !Gnutella, !eDonkey, !DirectConnect, !SoulSeek - Multi-protocol engines include !MLDonkey and !giFT - See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information
[14:09] <erUSUL> term__: lspci | grep -i vga
[14:09] <HinHin> hey guys, is anyone familiar in getting mics to work in linux?
[14:09] <term__> says i do not have direct rendering :(
[14:09] <fevel> can someone give me a hand?? I have a slackware server running vncserver and would like to know if theres a nice graphical tool for logging into the vnc from ubuntu
[14:09] <erUSUL> term__: it seems you do not have 3d hw accel
[14:10] <term__> ?
[14:10] <term__> i have a 256 mb nvidia card lol
[14:10] <fevel> I installed gnome-RDP but its not working
[14:10] <term__> lspci | grep -i vga
[14:10] <term__> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200] (rev a1)
[14:10] <nico_> tnx illcheck it out
[14:10] <Scunizi> fevel, terminal services client..
[14:10] <jimqode> fevel, tsclient
[14:10] <pschorf> fevel, you can use the preinstalled terminal server client
[14:11] <x3on> hey, I just logged into my gnome desktop (using gutsy) and some things seemed to have changed, I assume from the small update I did before i logged out. The entire desktop looks different, new icons etc. Not a problem. I cant lock the screen or switch users anymore though....
[14:12] <aquila> qual o canal br mesmo?
[14:12] <jimqode> x3cion, an update should not do that. you can add back the applets that do that by right clicking the panel and choosing add applet.
[14:12] <Pici> !br | aquila
[14:12] <ubotu> aquila: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[14:12] <jimqode> x3on,  an update should not do that. you can add back the applets that do that by right clicking the panel and choosing add applet.
[14:12] <lee_> Whats that in english?
[14:13] <x3on> jimqode, the applets are there, it just wont work
[14:13] <x3on> ** Message: Failed to connect to the D-BUS daemon: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-5w5Ij1j8Tn: Connection refused
[14:14] <jimqode> x3on, you profile may be messed up. try another user. if there are no other users, create one.
[14:14] <vak> hi all
[14:14] <fevel> terminal server isnt working...I type in the ip:port and tell it to connect but it just dissapears
[14:15] <hwilde> fevel, it is trying to ocnnect.  it will time out
[14:16] <Toznoshio> Q: how do I specify a umask value in /etc/fstab
[14:16] <Toznoshio> Q: is it normal for two applications to lock each other out of using the audio subsystem (alsa)?
[14:16] <x3cion> Im no nickfaker, btw... lol :>
[14:16] <mm2000> hello dudes!! I am using CVS. How can i make cvs ignore to commit and update the file foo/bar/foobar.zap ?
[14:16] <vak> my sys timezone is jumping every 30 minutes from correct value to incorrect. The incorrect value is always corrected in a few minutes back. any hints?
[14:16] <drcode_> hi a ll
[14:16] <user18> ery
[14:17] <user18> hloooo
[14:17] <unop_> Toznoshio, the umask directive depends on the filesystem used -- not all filesystems use umask
[14:17] <drcode_> I can use rpm in ubuntu?
[14:17] <drcode_> without alien?
[14:17] <Exteris> drcode_, no
[14:17] <unop_> Toznoshio, some audio applications do lock the sound device
[14:17] <orehon> I am under 7.10 and trying to browser files via bluetooth but I got the error msg: "Couldn't display " obex:// XXX". Chech if the service is available." What should I do?
[14:17] <drcode_> k
[14:17] <drcode_> thnx
[14:17] <Toznoshio> unop_: it's an NTFS share on a remote Win2000 server
[14:18] <scientist-> what button do i press when ubuntu is booting to see the boot messages? neither tab or escape seem to work
[14:18] <pschorf> Can a samba server act as an NT domain controller?
[14:18] <unop_> Toznoshio, see the manpage for smbmount
[14:18] <CrummyGummy> Hi all, any ideas where dhcpclient3 starts from? I can't see it in cron, inetd or any other startup scripts for that matter.
[14:18] <hwilde> scientist-, ctrl+alt+f1
[14:18] <unop_> pschorf, yes
[14:18] <mm2000> hello dudes!! I am using CVS. How can i make cvs ignore to commit and update the file foo/bar/foobar.zap ?
[14:18] <Toznoshio> unop_: thanks, I'll look into that
[14:18] <pschorf> unop_, does it work well enough to be worthwhile?
[14:19] <scientist-> thank you hwilde
[14:19] <unop_> CrummyGummy, it is called whenever an interface is brought up -- it is not a service
[14:19] <CrummyGummy> unop_:  So how do I stop it? They're all set as static.
[14:19] <unop_> pschorf, well, quite rudimentarily yes -- it depends on your infrastructure requirements
[14:19] <CrummyGummy> Were dhcp in insgtall.
[14:19] <pschorf> unop_, thanks
[14:19] <hwilde> CrummyGummy, fix your /etc/network/interfaces file
[14:20] <CrummyGummy>  iface eth1 inet static
[14:20] <CrummyGummy> should be fine...
[14:20] <hwilde> CrummyGummy,  yes that is fine.  as long as it's not redefined somehwere else
[14:21] <chdst> CrummyGummy: Take a peek in the /etc/network/ifup* directories
[14:21] <CrummyGummy> hmmmm, thats wierd.
[14:21] <unop_> CrummyGummy, so how do you know dhclient is still trying to autoconfigure your interface(s) ?
[14:21] <CrummyGummy> unop_: Every time I kill it it comes back.
[14:21] <chdst> CrummyGummy: More specifically /etc/network/if-up.d/, /etc/network/if-pre-up.d
[14:21] <term_> haha.. all i had to do was goto the appearance tab and select nvidia driver.
[14:22] <term_> 20445 frames in 5.0 seconds = 4088.944 FPS
[14:22] <chdst> (Though putting anything DHCP-related in pre-up is just silly!)
[14:22] <unop_> CrummyGummy, just because a process is running, doesnt mean it's doing anything ? does dhclient still autoconfigure your interfaces despite you setting them for static addressing?
[14:22] <hwilde> CrummyGummy, do you have other interfaces defined for dhcp in /etc/network/interfaces ?
[14:23] <CrummyGummy> unop_: no
[14:23] <CrummyGummy> hwilde: no
[14:23] <hwilde> CrummyGummy, then don't worry about it...
[14:23] <unop_> CrummyGummy, what does this command return? ps aux | grep -i dhclient
[14:23] <cfchris6> I'm trying to encode an avi file with transcode, here are the used commands and the stdout: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/35459/ In general it works fine, but in detail I want to set the destination bitrate with the -w option and transcode is politely ignoring it. So, any idea, what I am doing wrong?
[14:24] <CrummyGummy> dhcp      5018  0.0  0.0  15056   956 ?        S<s  Mar19   0:00 dhclient3 -e IF_METRIC=100 -pf /var/run/dhclient.eth0.pid -lf /var/lib/dhcp3/dhclient.eth0.leases eth0
[14:25] <gonzalo> ola
[14:25] <unop_> CrummyGummy, sounds like dhclient is controlling eth0 there -- are you sure eth0 is setup static?
[14:25] <CrummyGummy> hwilde: I really don't like extra stuff running on my server.
[14:25] <CrummyGummy> unop_: yup
[14:25] <CrummyGummy> auto eth0
[14:25] <CrummyGummy> iface eth0 inet static
[14:26] <CrummyGummy> then address gateway etc.
[14:27] <unop_> CrummyGummy, strange -- and there are no other entries for eth0 ?
[14:27] <CrummyGummy> K, I don't think I killed it properly. (pkill is a nasty habit)
[14:27] <narothepharoh> how do i get a webcam to work?
[14:28] <nikrud> !webcam | narothepharoh
[14:28] <ubotu> narothepharoh: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[14:28] <CrummyGummy> unop_: hwilde: Sorry about that.finger trouble....
[14:29] <rubax> Hiya peeps. Im having problems adding a new dvd drive to my ubuntu pc. How should I edit fstab?
[14:29] <unop_> CrummyGummy, still doesn't explain dhclient running despite the static setup
[14:29] <CrummyGummy> When I installed it it was dhcp. Let me reboot and see if it comes back,.
[14:29] <Lamego> rubax, you should add an entry with your device name, just as you see for the other partitions already in there
[14:30] <tyron> Hi i have been trying to get sound working on tosh a200 with this link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=473425http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=473425 now getting this error The volume control did not find any elements and/or devices to control. This means either that you don't have the right GStreamer plugins installed, or that you don't have a sound card configured.
[14:30]  * CrummyGummy hates rebooting remote servers.
[14:30] <Lamego> use the blkid command to list the uids
[14:30] <term_> Ok.. i have ubuntu on my primary HD, Windows on my Slave. is there anyway i can be given an option upon bootup to decide which one i would like to boot to?
[14:30] <tyron> it seems to have made things worse at lest before i hade volume controls
[14:30] <john> Check this: http://ucash.in/my_links/user/francfrancek
[14:30] <cpk1> term_: yes, change grub to wait a certain amount of time before booting and in that time you will be able to pick which os you want
[14:31] <rubax> Thanks Lamego
[14:31] <term_> cpkl how do i do that :)
[14:31] <invaderB-laptop> Hi, I have a question with the beta version and graphics combatability with dell latitude c600 laptops
[14:31] <Pici> !etiquette > john (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[14:31] <cpk1> term_: how do you currently boot to windows if you want to?
[14:31] <term_> cpkl - switch HD's lmao
[14:32] <RaceKondition> where's the standard place that in Ubuntu that I should put web apps?
[14:32] <term_> cpkl - i went out and got a ide cable with two plugs (my old one only had one master plug) the computer see's both HD's and reckognizes them. i would just like the option upon bootup to decide which to go to
[14:32] <Lamego> RaceKondition, /var/www
[14:33] <RaceKondition> Lamego: thanks
[14:33] <cpk1> haha alright, you will need to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst personally I use nano to edit files, you can use whatever editor you would like, you need to have root priviledge to edit
[14:33] <invaderB-laptop> is there a free admin that can help me out ?
[14:33] <term_> ok
[14:33] <term_> im in the file
[14:33] <Lamego> invaderB-laptop, just ask
[14:33] <Pici> invaderB-laptop: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Hardy/8.04 support/discussion.
[14:33] <RaceKondition> Lamego: what should the owner of the files be? root? www? or an application specific user?
[14:33] <term_> cpk1,  what do i need to change within the file
[14:34] <Lamego> RaceKondition, www-data, since that is the apache user
[14:34] <RaceKondition> Lamego: but the apache2-default app belongs to root:root
[14:34] <term_> ahh
[14:34] <term_> timout sec?
[14:34] <cpk1> term_: ok at the very bottom of the file there is a section titled ## ## End Default Options ## you need to add another entry there
[14:34] <cpk1> term_: and you want to make the timeout longer yess
[14:34] <term_> well
[14:34] <Lamego> RaceKondition, it needs to be readable by www-data regardless of the owner
[14:34] <unop> RaceKondition, the owner can be anyone .. but www-data must be able to read those files
[14:35] <term_> i see the timeout option but its higher in the file
[14:35] <RaceKondition> oh, OK
[14:35] <nikrud> RaceKondition the files can be owned by anyone, as long as they are readable by all, they need to be owned by www-data if they will be written to by apache (like a dir users can upload to)
[14:35] <cpk1> term_: yeah the timeout is higher up, change that value to what you want, and then you need to tell grub about windows after you do that
[14:35] <term_> ok
[14:35] <term_> i changed timeout to 15 seconds
[14:35] <term_> now what
[14:36] <unop> nikrud, errm, if the files are world-writable .. that could still work despite the owner
[14:36] <unop> nikrud, not that i am saying thats a good way to have it setup
[14:36] <cpk1> I have never actually had to use grub to boot windows so let me see, basically though you will need to keep the same format as the other entries (title root kernel) but let me see what windows needs exactly
[14:36] <RaceKondition> nikrud: OK, thanks.. btw, just one more question. why does http://localhost/ not map to /var/www/apache2-defualt/ but /var/www/ instead?
[14:36] <tyron> Can anyone help with sound on toshiba a200?
[14:36] <RaceKondition> is there a reason?
[14:36] <nikrud> unop I don't thi^W^W do agree
[14:37] <unop> eh?
[14:37] <cpk1> term_: you can title it whatever you want and if windows is on the second hard drive and on the first/only partition on it the root would be 1,0
[14:37] <term_> cpkl - so basicly after end defult options i need to add one for windows.
[14:37] <RPM> I would like to know of a good program to convert avi to vcd
[14:37] <Lamego> RaceKondition, the document root can bet set to whatever you need, it is not relevant
[14:37] <nikrud> unop I was writing a disagreement, then agreed
[14:37] <term_> cpkl - my menu.lst file says root for linux is hd0,0  - so where would windows be?
[14:37] <Jack_Sparrow> tyron, HAve you been through the troubleshooting sectionof our sound page
[14:37] <Jack_Sparrow> !sound
[14:38] <unop> RaceKondition, you'll need to configure apache if you want to use a default document root
[14:38] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[14:38] <term_> 1,0
[14:38] <term_> ?
[14:38] <nikrud> unop with your followup that is :)
[14:38] <Lamego> there are some packages like php my admin which are installed to a default location under /var/www, accessing such apps will be easier because they will be installed on the proper (default) document root
[14:38] <unop> nikrud, right right, i just saw a flurry of odd characters, wondering what was going on there :)
[14:38] <RPM> hi
[14:38] <zschallz_> tyron: google says your sound just works in gutsy :P
[14:38] <RPM> if someone can please
[14:39] <nikrud> RaceKondition it's a tricky little config they do; as soon as you drop an index.html in /var/www it will switch to it
[14:39] <Lamego> RPM, just write your question
[14:39] <cpk1> term_: it depends how the windows drive is partitioned, it only have one partition? if so then it should be hd1,0
[14:40] <term_> yes just one partition
[14:40] <RaceKondition> nikrud: aha.. very tricky indeed :P
[14:40] <term_> cpk1,  http://pastebin.com/m53781c55
[14:40] <term_> thats my menu.lst
[14:40] <kasi> hi, i cant get wireless or sound working in hardy, but it worked fine in gutsy, can anyone help? using a hp dv6500
[14:40] <unop> cpk1, it should be hd0,0 i think
[14:40] <Lamego> !hardy > kasi
[14:40] <term_> my ubuntu HD is set as 0,0
[14:40] <term_> says my menu.lst :/
[14:40] <term_> http://pastebin.com/m53781c55
[14:41] <kasi> !hardy
[14:41] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[14:41] <Jack_Sparrow> tyron, a quick sound check..  Report no sound or any errors after you run this command: speaker-test -c2 -Ddefault -t wav -l1
[14:41] <cpk1> unop: no, his windows drive is setup as a slave so it would be 1,0
[14:41] <unop> cpk1, ok, sure, my bad, i wasn't following the discussion
[14:42] <term_> cpk1,  - correct me if im wrong, but going by IDE cables, the HD farthest on the cable, IS the master right? lol
[14:42] <term_> and the middle plug is slave.
[14:42] <Jack_Sparrow> term_, not always
[14:42] <unop> term_, depends on jumpers on the drives actually
[14:42] <term_> hmm
[14:42] <cpk1> term_: just change the jumper
[14:42] <scientist-> on the old ones the middle one was master
[14:42] <nikrud> morning Jack_Sparrow , time for work so tag
[14:42] <Jack_Sparrow> term_, that is only with cable select and floppy drives
[14:43] <komputes> how can I quicly list what video driver is being used?
[14:43] <term_> so its really a trial and error deal
[14:43] <term_> :)
[14:43] <Jack_Sparrow> nikrud, np,, catch you later.
[14:43] <gumpish> How can I make my ssh agent available to a cron job?
[14:44] <unop> gumpish, errm, is the cron job being run under your user?
[14:44] <term_> gonna try, brb hopefully :P
[14:44] <gumpish> unop: yep
[14:44] <cpk1> well that was quick
[14:44] <burner> server fr ?
[14:44] <pschorf> goodbye all, class is ending
[14:44] <cpk1> hope he knows if grub has problems he needs to use a rescue cd
[14:45] <unop> gumpish, in that case - you could run the job like -- ssh-agent && command
[14:45] <burner> do you know the channel of server fr please ?
[14:45] <RaceKondition> it's OK to disable the apache2 default site, right?
[14:45] <tyron> jack_sparrow: It is sayng no device, before i started to try get working it was at least trying to work
[14:45] <burner> do you know the channel of server fr please ?
[14:45] <komputes> !fr
[14:45] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[14:45] <burner> !fr
[14:45] <Lamego> RaceKondition, yes
[14:45] <unop> gumpish, you might also want to kill the pid of that ssh-agent once the command completes so as to avoid zombies
[14:45] <burner> #ubuntu-fr
[14:46] <gumpish> thanks
[14:46] <Jack_Sparrow> cpk1, When I work on grub, I usuallyleave the original code in place and create menu listings for the different options I want to try.  That way you edit it ince to tray all the combinations you want and can always get back in
[14:46] <komputes> how can I list what video driver is being used?
[14:46] <Jack_Sparrow> tyron, Fixing sound.. download this: http://hg.alsa-project.org/alsa/raw-file/tip/alsa-info.sh  #and run the script as Normal User... with this command: bash ./alsa-info.sh  ... then go to http://en.pastebin.ca/906336 and answer those questions ..  then  /join #Alsa and provide them with your question and a link to the uploaded file.
[14:46] <cpk1> i think he needs to use system mapping too...
[14:47] <Jack_Sparrow> komputes, you can look in xorg.. that is usually the easiest
[14:47] <cpk1> hopefully he is back Jack_Sparrow I tried to give him some more information =\
[14:47] <tyron> Thanks
[14:47] <RPM> anyone know of a good program to convert avi to vcd
[14:47] <RPM> please
[14:47] <Jack_Sparrow> komputes, sudo apt-get install pastebinit  && cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | pastebinit (Provide Pastebin link in channel)
[14:47] <komputes> Jack_Sparrow: Configured Device - (no driver mentioned)
[14:47] <Jack_Sparrow> komputes, then you are running Hardy...  right
[14:47] <komputes> Jack_Sparrow: all the new xorg.conf file hide the driver from the user
[14:48] <komputes> Jack_Sparrow: true
[14:48] <Jack_Sparrow> You need to go to
[14:48] <Jack_Sparrow> !hardy
[14:48] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[14:48] <komputes> yeah, no answer yet, thanks, any clues?
[14:48] <Journeyman> do I need a program to use the compiz themes?
[14:48] <Journeyman> cause beryl used like emerald or something
[14:48] <Jack_Sparrow> komputes, yes, you need to ask in there.
[14:48] <RPM> ok then I am off
[14:48] <komputes> I did a few times
[14:48] <RPM> thanks for nothing
[14:48] <komputes> thanks
[14:49] <Jack_Sparrow> Journeyman, /join #Compiz
[14:49] <nugz1212> hey is there a room for 8.04 beta?
[14:49] <Jack_Sparrow> !hardy
[14:49] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[14:49] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 please
[14:50]  * unop wonders what the codename for the release after hardy will be
[14:50] <Jack_Sparrow> komputes, as you can see the new xorg is entirely different.... asking in here wont get you an answer
[14:50] <nugz1212> thanks my friend gave it to me on a cd but didn't tellme antlything
[14:50] <Jack_Sparrow> Morning bazhang
[14:50] <bazhang> unop: intrepid ibex
[14:51] <bazhang> Jack_Sparrow: morning/evening! ;]
[14:51] <unop> bazhang, errm wow
[14:51] <Jack_Sparrow> nugz1212, put it in and power up...
[14:51] <Lamego> unop, intrepid ibex
[14:51] <komputes> Jack_Sparrow: ;p asking in there is working much better.... not ;)
[14:52] <james_n> i am New to linux and am having trouble shading a folder with several other windows computer on my network.  Can anyone help me figure this out?
[14:52] <Jack_Sparrow> komputes, lspci or lshw   grep through it if you dont want to do it manually
[14:52] <bazhang> james_n: using samba?
[14:52] <unop> !samba | james_n
[14:52] <ubotu> james_n: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[14:53] <james_n> thanks ill do some reading
[14:53] <komputes> Jack_Sparrow: will that give me the driver being used or just the name and identifier for hardware?
[14:53] <RaceKondition> as I understand, the Apache2 default site does not simply create a default site but also provide some default global configuration as well?
[14:54] <Jack_Sparrow> komputes, just the hardware, not the driver.
[14:54] <lartza_> How can I aplly *.diff file to source?
[14:54] <komputes> Jack_Sparrow: will lsmod tell me what driver is in use?
[14:54] <unop> RaceKondition, right
[14:55] <kmanrox> ok, was looking thru folders, and now suddenly all my hard drive shortcuts are on my desktop and i cant remove them.. any advice?  thx in advance
[14:55] <Jack_Sparrow> komputes, I am still waking up and having coffee, we really need hardy users to go to that room..  for a couple weeks more anyhow
[14:55] <unop> RaceKondition, each new site can override global configuration directives or fall back to the globals
[14:55] <komputes> Jack_Sparrow: I'm in there, msg me if you'd like to discuss
[14:56] <Jack_Sparrow> kmanrox, To Remove Icons  Use Terminal and type gconf-editor browse to /apps/nautilus/desktop and uncheck volumes_visable
[14:56] <lartza_> How can I aplly *.diff file to source?
[14:57] <unop> lartza_, www.linuxforums.org/applications/using_diff_and_patch.html
[14:57] <lartza_> thx
[14:57] <Lamego> lartza_, patch -p1 < diff_file
[14:57] <bicyclist> Does anyone else have those weird pink shadows around all windows in Hardy Heron ?
[14:57] <Jack_Sparrow> komputes, I am already covering three channels... not ready to support Hardy
[14:57] <Lamego> and man patch
[14:57] <Lamego> !hardy
[14:57] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[14:57] <ManicMethod> is there a page that tells how to make a completely automated install cd? Where you just drop in the cd and boot and its installed, no questions at all?
[14:57] <lartza_> is it better to use .patch or .diff file or are they all different?
[14:57] <Hatl> hi! if i use "startx" in a start script it doesn't work -> the screen flickers, i can see the mouse (X) for about 1 sec, then it switches back to console. if i type startx on console it works. what could be the problem?
[14:58] <unop> lartza_, patch uses diff files
[14:58] <lartza_> oh
[14:58] <wof-> Hatl: most likely a video configurations aren't correct
[14:58] <RaceKondition> unop: I was asking because the squirrelmail app stopped functioning after I disabled the default site
[14:58] <Lamego> ManicMethod, probably such install would be better covered by a ghost-like approach :P
[14:58] <lartza_> what if it's just the diff file? then .patch contains everything needed?
[14:58] <lartza_> i men if it's just patch
[14:58] <Hatl> wof-: it works if i call startx at console
[14:59] <screamfd> hello together
[14:59] <komputes> Jack_Sparrow: I'm totally with you on that
[14:59] <Jack_Sparrow> ManicMethod, that would seem to be a dangerous thing to have around.
[14:59] <wof-> Hatl: oh I read what you said wrong
[14:59] <term_> yayy
[14:59] <unop> lartza_, a diff file is a set of commands understood by patch -- patch executes those commands, does that make sense?
[14:59] <term_> dual booting works
[14:59] <wof-> Hatl: you running 'startx' as what user?
[14:59] <lartza_> yea
[14:59] <wof-> term_: word
[14:59] <Hatl> wof-: root
[14:59] <unop> RaceKondition, you'd expect that yes
[14:59] <screamfd> I'm ubuntu 7.10 user
[15:00] <wof-> Hatl: The script you have, you wrote it to run as root or when the system is booting up?
[15:00] <Hatl> wof-: its a boot script
[15:00] <Jack_Sparrow> komputes, I have been averaging 1000 words in support a day, every day of the week... Stretched a bit thin
[15:00] <wof-> term_: I used to do that, until vmware
[15:00] <wof-> oops he left
[15:00] <Hatl> wof: if i exec whoami inside the script i get "root"
[15:01] <wof-> Hatl: Why don't you change the init mode to gfx?
[15:01] <wof-> instead of using the script?
[15:01] <unop> Hatl, you really want to run startx as user not root
[15:01] <co0lingFir3> where do i get a deb for the bioapi framework?
[15:01] <scientist-> if i install 8.04 beta, when the final is released in a couple weeks, if i just go to software update will that bring me up to the stable version?
[15:01] <unop> Hatl, place startx in your ~/.xinitrc or similar -- or use ~/.xinitrc to call your script
[15:01] <cpk1> wof-: too bad vmware isnt a cureall =\
[15:02] <Joelito> How to know in ubuntu if my pc supports 64-bits?
[15:02] <amita> i just installed ubuntu 7.10 on my toshiba laptop now to play my avi and other mp3 formats i installed all the gstreamer plugins but their is no sound and the volume control shows the sign of mute and when i click on it it shows an error "No volume control gstreamer plugin and/or devices found please help me to solve the problem
[15:02] <screamfd> ubuntu 7.10 is the best linux, with gnome GUI
[15:02] <wof-> Unless you running like blackbox/fluxbox/etc ... then just login as the user you're going to use and do startx;  that is how I've done it .. or just boot into gfx login
[15:02] <komputes> Jack_Sparrow: oh, you are so motivated
[15:02] <ManicMethod> Jack_Sparrow: why is that?
[15:02] <ManicMethod> Jack_Sparrow: its for server installations
[15:02] <komputes> Jack_Sparrow: by the way, found the answer xdriinfo
[15:02] <unop> Hatl, sorry, place it in ~/.bashrc -- not ~/.xinitrc
[15:02] <Hatl> unop: then i have to login first
[15:02] <ManicMethod> Lamego: can't use ghost, destination is a sparc
[15:03] <wof-> cpk1: It isn't, but I just purchased some pe1950's to build a vmware and xen enviroment
[15:03] <wof-> test it out ... see if its worth going down that route
[15:03] <unop> Hatl, indeed -- better than running everything under root no?
[15:03] <wof-> vmware is great for when I want to use windows
[15:03] <wof-> ;p
[15:03] <cpk1> ManicMethod: yes there is a way to do that
[15:03] <co0lingFir3> where do i get a deb for bioAPI?
[15:03] <Jack_Sparrow> ManicMethod, A cd that does not have any failsafe installed that completely formats you entire hard drive..  gets accidentially left out or picked up by someone and they boot it...  not good
[15:03] <ManicMethod> cpk1: got a link?
[15:04] <screamfd> how burning discs, that ubuntu read there ? Was before ubuntu linux user
[15:04] <Lamego> manchicken, you could create a golden image, and then just dd it to the target disk
[15:04] <cpk1> ManicMethod: let me try digging through the wiki real quick
[15:04] <Lamego> or use a partition copy utilitity
[15:04] <screamfd> *winXP user sry
[15:04] <ManicMethod> but i want it completely automated
[15:04] <ManicMethod> its for a colo facility
[15:04] <ManicMethod> they shouldn't even connect anything to the serial port (there is no video card)
[15:05] <bazhang> screamfd: could you be a bit more clear please? you want to burn a disk? data, iso, dvd movie or what
[15:06] <tripps> bug in ubuntu - booting up with incorrect time shows dialog stating time is incorrect with message that you can run into errors. two choice buttons, ignore and change time. click on change time and states you don't have rights to perform admin task with no other prompts. have to kill xwindows and choose ignore instead.
I burn of windows with nero a data disc
[15:06] <unop> Hatl, it might be possible if you used sudo (yes, as root) to launch the script as a user -- but use nohup with the script to stop it terminating when the parent script exits
[15:06] <co0lingFir3> could someone give me a working link for bioAPI? thanks
[15:06] <cpk1> ManicMethod: this should get you started, there are links here that lead to other good info from debian, I remember reading this about a month back and I believe it will let you completely automate everythinghttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization?highlight=%28cd%29
[15:06] <bazhang> screamfd: okay; and what was your question please?
[15:07] <unop> co0lingFir3, doesn't look like an ubuntu package -- please use !google
[15:07] <Lamego> tripps, launchpad.net is the proper place to report bugs
[15:08] <co0lingFir3> unop: i know but the site where it should be hosted http://www.qrivy.net/~michael/temp/ doesnt seem to work
[15:08] <tripps> i am getting craploads of NOT AUTHENTICATED messages on package updates and installs these days where I never saw them before. some aren't even from outside repos. What gives?
[15:08] <Hatl> unop: ill try nohup, thx
[15:08] <cpk1> ManicMethod: have fun, very nice idea especially if you are installing on tons of clients =)
[15:08] <unop> co0lingFir3, searched for mirrors?
[15:08] <ammy> is their anyone to help?? plz
[15:09] <screamfd> bazhang: My question was how bring the ubuntu that ubuntu the disc read?
[15:09] <screamfd>  	
[15:09] <screamfd> How do I get ubuntu to the list of the disc
[15:09] <bazhang> ammy if you ask a specific question yes
[15:09] <unop> Hatl, but you must use sudo too -- otherwise startx will launch an X session as root, and that's not advisable at all
[15:09] <tripps> Lamego, roger that thx
[15:09] <cpk1> screamfd: you want ubuntu to list your hard drives?
[15:09] <ammy> bazhang, i asked a question abt my sound problem can u help
[15:10] <ManicMethod> cpk1: thanks :)
[15:10] <unop> Hatl, something like this :  sudo -u user nohup scriptname
[15:10] <screamfd> cpk1:Yes he do
[15:10] <cpk1> ManicMethod: I remember I was going to try to use that preseeding stuff but it looked to confusing to bother with so the best of luck!
[15:11] <Hatl> unop: the script gets executed as user root
[15:11] <co0lingFir3> unop: yes i did and was not successful
[15:11] <tripps> i have ntpdate installed yet it won't give me the option to sync time to internet servers without installing ntp. it was always synced before with ntp servers. why does it not work now?
[15:11] <unop> Hatl, yes, which is why you need sudo to get the script running as a normal user
[15:11] <cpk1> screamfd: "sudo fdisk -l" will list your hard drives
[15:11] <Hatl> unop: i want to run it as root
[15:11] <popo> cew_tomboy_chubby
[15:12] <cirilo> exit
[15:12] <cirilo> bye
[15:12] <screamfd> cpk1: That is the ausgabe
[15:12] <screamfd> Usage: fdisk [-l] [-b SSZ] [-u] device
[15:12] <screamfd> E.g.: fdisk /dev/hda  (for the first IDE disk)
[15:12] <screamfd>   or: fdisk /dev/sdc  (for the third SCSI disk)
[15:12] <screamfd>   or: fdisk /dev/eda  (for the first PS/2 ESDI drive)
[15:12] <screamfd>   or: fdisk /dev/rd/c0d0  or: fdisk /dev/ida/c0d0  (for RAID devices)
[15:12] <unop> Hatl, that's really not advisable -- goes against everything linux stands for eh?
[15:12] <unop> !pastebin | screamfd
[15:12] <ubotu> screamfd: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[15:12] <co0lingFir3> does anyone have the BioAPI framework package?
[15:12] <FloodBot2> screamfd: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:13] <mrpockets> what cna i use to juts view the output of my webcam?
[15:13] <ammy> bazhang: just installed ubuntu 7.10 on my toshiba laptop now to play my avi and other mp3 formats i installed all the gstreamer plugins but their is no sound and the volume control shows the sign of mute and when i click on it it shows an error "No volume control gstreamer plugin and/or devices found" please help me to solve the problem
[15:13] <Jack_Sparrow> co0lingFir3, Never heard anyone even ask about it in here.
[15:14] <Hatl> unop: LOL
[15:14] <Jaffarkelshac> hello
[15:14] <unop> Hatl, i'm serious man
[15:14] <Jaffarkelshac> what is a decent screen capture software for ubuntu. i want to put together a tutorial for someone.
[15:14] <unop> Hatl, you might as well run windows (since it runs that way by default)
[15:14] <screamfd> is this a prog for past?
[15:14] <Hatl> unop: i want to run a single application on a x server which needs root rights
[15:14] <frajer> elo
[15:15] <Jack_Sparrow> ammy, Fixing sound.. download this: http://hg.alsa-project.org/alsa/raw-file/tip/alsa-info.sh  #and run the script as Normal User... with this command: bash ./alsa-info.sh  ... then go to http://en.pastebin.ca/906336 and answer those questions ..  then  /join #Alsa and provide them with your question and a link to the uploaded file.
[15:15] <lordleemo>  co0lingFir3 not sure if its what you want but look here http://code.google.com/p/bioapi-linux/
[15:15] <co0lingFir3> Jack_Sparrow: i need the package for my fingerprint reader and the site is offline
[15:16] <co0lingFir3> lordleemo: the framework is only in source code and not in a deb file there
[15:16] <Jaffarkelshac> what is a decent screen capture software for ubuntu. i want to put together a tutorial for someone.
[15:16] <lordleemo> co0lingFir3: ok ill have a look about
[15:16] <unop> Hatl, well, if the application requires root rights, it's probably not written for security in mind or written poorly or both, there might be other ways to achieve what you want
[15:17] <Jack_Sparrow> JAffapplications, accessories..screenshot
[15:17] <mrpockets> so
[15:17] <mrpockets> yeah
[15:17] <mrpockets> What do i use to view my webcam?
[15:17] <Jaffarkelshac> that only takes pictures
[15:17] <co0lingFir3> lordleemo: how do i build a deb out of source code?
[15:17] <Odd-rationale> !info cheese
[15:17] <erUSUL> !info cheese | mrpockets
[15:17] <ubotu> cheese (source: cheese): A tool to take pictures and videos from your webcam.. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.3-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 669 kB, installed size 1088 kB
[15:17] <ubotu> mrpockets: please see above
[15:17] <mrpockets> thanks
[15:17] <cpk1> screamfd: you typed in "sudo fdisk -l" (thats a lowercase L)
[15:17] <Hatl> unop: its a imaging system which needs to write bootsectors and so on
[15:18] <Jaffarkelshac> Jack_Sparrow: looking for something that outputs in video or moving.
[15:18] <ALVAN> hi .. does someone knows how to fix the hal bug wich disables the printer in cups when it is idle . there is one fix stated here but it does not work https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hal/+bug/190048
[15:18] <screamfd> cpk1: I haveing
[15:19] <mrpockets> God you guys are amazing
[15:19] <mrpockets> you know that?
[15:19] <tripps> nevermind it appears apt-get update fixed the authentication errors
[15:19] <bazhang> Jaffarkelshac: you mean video? how about recordmydesktop?
[15:20] <Exteris> Jaffarkelshac, don't forget gtk-recordmydesktop or qt-recordmydesktop
[15:20] <Jaffarkelshac> cheers i will try that
[15:22] <polishpaul> What would you recommend for PDF support in linux? Foxit didn't really work
[15:22] <hans_> Acrobat reader is really slow
[15:22] <unop> polishpaul, what "pdf support" do you want?
[15:22] <Odd-rationale> polishpaul: evince is good
[15:22] <ALVAN> polishpaul, xpdf
[15:22] <arvind> polishpaul: evince is good
[15:22] <polishpaul> ty
[15:23] <Odd-rationale> !info evince
[15:23] <ubotu> evince (source: evince): Document (postscript, pdf) viewer. In component main, is optional. Version 2.20.1-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 1211 kB, installed size 6236 kB
[15:23] <Jaffarkelshac> i just installed recordmydesktop using apt but i cant see where it installed to, i can run in terminal though
[15:23] <arvind> how to get JOOST working on ubuntu?
[15:23] <kpanic> any problems in upgrading to 8.x?
[15:23] <kpanic> hi
[15:23] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 please kpanic
[15:23] <Jaymac> Jaffarkelshac, it may not have created a launcher icon
[15:23] <kpanic> ok
[15:23] <kpanic> sorry
[15:24] <neos857> hi]
[15:24] <hans_> arvind: wine ?
[15:24] <falconsmith> hello
[15:24] <screamfd> OK, my issue is, ehm is past prohibited
[15:24] <ArmedKing> hey guys the Hex code for ext3 is 83 correct?
[15:24] <hazard5150> Anyone have any suggestions why the installer keeps hanging during the Prepare Partitions phase?
[15:24] <frajer> hello kurwa
[15:25] <Jaffarkelshac> Jaymac how do i create an icon for it
[15:25] <hazard5150> The media test came back ok, so I don't think it's a bad burn.
[15:25] <unop> ArmedKing, that's the code for linux partition, it has no bearing on the filesystem the partition uses
[15:25] <hazard5150> But I've let it sit for as much as 2.5 hours without it making it through that phase.
[15:25] <cpk1> screamfd: use the pastebin link in the topic if you need to paste something
[15:25] <Odd-rationale> Jaffarkelshac: Right-click the menu bar a select edit menu
[15:25] <ArmedKing> unop, oke tnx
[15:26] <Jax> I need some help with installing Java.  Can anyone assist me?
[15:26] <screamfd> cpk1 with was for name?
[15:26] <bazhang> Jax: you have ubuntu-restricted-extras installed?
[15:26] <screamfd> my name or your name?
[15:27] <Jaffarkelshac> i browsed through the list is not there
[15:27] <Jaymac> Jaffarkelshac, I just installed gtk-recordmydesktop, and the launcher appears in Applications > Sound & Video
[15:27] <neos857> y
[15:27] <neos857> f
[15:27] <neos857> fukin
[15:27] <neos857> FUKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
[15:27] <bazhang> neos857: stop please
[15:27] <Jaffarkelshac> i just installed recordmydesktop, i guess its not the same
[15:27] <neos857> FUK
[15:27] <neos857> FUL
[15:27] <arvind> jax ,just install from synaptic
[15:27] <jussi01> !ops | neos857
[15:27] <ubotu> neos857: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow or nickrud!
[15:27] <julian> hi again... got a problem with totem.. when i start 2 mp3 it says: "Could not configure supporting library" what does that mean? video lan client is playing the mp3 without problems...
[15:27] <bazhang> !ops | neos857
[15:27] <kmanrox> how to disable display of my mounted drives on desktop? thx
[15:27] <Jaymac> Jaffarkelshac, gtk-recordmydesktop is the frontend
[15:27] <gregcha117> i have no sound although my sound devices appear to be configured fine and they worked fine before any ideas
[15:27] <ArmedKing> neos857, Dude get a life
[15:27] <cpk1> well that was fast
[15:28] <neos857> n
[15:28] <talexb> Hello, I was hit by a clue by four in #debian, so I've come here looking for cpan2deb
[15:28] <neos857> o
[15:28] <neos857> FUK ALL
[15:28] <ArmedKing> !op
[15:28] <ubotu> Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow or nickrud!
[15:28] <Jaymac> Jaffarkelshac, install it too
[15:28] <Jaffarkelshac> installing that now
[15:28] <neos857> !op
[15:28] <screamfd> cpk1: Sry not check, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/61020/
[15:28] <ArmedKing> Please do something about neos857
[15:28] <Jaffarkelshac> how to talk to someone in red, i am not sure if i do it right
[15:28] <kmanrox> can someone pls help me with this;
[15:28] <kmanrox>  how to disable display of my mounted drives on desktop? thx
[15:28] <murlidhar>  checking for GTK... configure: error: GTK+-2.8 is required to compile rezlooks.
[15:28] <cpk1> screamfd: so you have one hard drive with 3 partitions
[15:28] <neos857> im soy
[15:28] <bazhang> neos857: stop please
[15:29] <Odd-rationale> Jaffarkelshac: put their nick in you line
[15:29] <neos857> ok
[15:29] <murlidhar> how to check the version of gtk.?
[15:29] <Jaffarkelshac> Jaymac gtk just came up, thanks
[15:29] <neos857> op
[15:29] <Jax> arvind I have downloaded jre-6u5-linux-i586.bin onto my desktop.  Do I use synaptic to install that?
[15:29] <neos857> OP!
[15:29] <screamfd> cpk1:yes
[15:29] <Jaymac> Jaffarkelshac, that worked :) No problem..
[15:29] <Jaffarkelshac> cool
[15:29] <neos857> im sory
[15:29] <bazhang> Jax: why not install ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[15:29] <unop> murlidhar, it's possible you can have both versions installed -- dpkg -l | grep -i libgtk   should tell you which ones you have
[15:30] <cpk1> screamfd: you asked how to check your  disks, thats how, sudo fdisk -l
[15:30] <hazard5150> Nobody?
[15:30] <Hobbsee> neos857: that won't get you help.
[15:30] <screamfd> cpk1: My first potion is winXP for all games
[15:30] <gregcha117>  i have no sound although my sound devices appear to be configured fine and they worked fine before any ideas
[15:30] <Jaffarkelshac> anyone know how to make the menu-xdg work so i cant get a better look at installed applications? so far no answer
[15:31] <screamfd> cpk1: Is what wrong?
[15:31] <murlidhar> unop, checking for GTK... configure: error: GTK+-2.8 is required to compile rezlooks
[15:31] <CaBa|_> how was that nopaste pipe tool called?
[15:31] <cpk1> screamfd: nothing is wrong, that's fine
[15:31] <huy> unop, i got it to work
[15:31] <ALVAN> does someone knows how to fix hal that disables the printer in cups ?
[15:31] <torete> wenas
[15:31] <unop> murlidhar, you need the libgtk2*-dev package installed
[15:32] <ALVAN> or to disable hal to dont check the printer no more
[15:32] <screamfd> cpk1: And my problem?
[15:32] <murlidhar> unop, what is the command for it ?
[15:32] <cpk1> screamfd: what problem?
[15:32] <hazard5150> murlidhar: I believe "deop"
[15:33] <hazard5150> Doh! I read that question wrong.
[15:33] <screamfd> cpk1: That with my data disc?
[15:33] <murlidhar> lol
[15:33]  * hazard5150 didnt' see unop until it was too late.
[15:33] <vivek3> can i upgrade to ubuntu 8.04 beta from ubuntu 7.10???
[15:33] <screamfd> cpk1: can you see that with remot?
[15:33] <HF-mobile> What's command to change password using term don't need the gui
[15:33] <Jaymac> vivek3, yes you can.  See #ubuntu+1 for help
[15:33] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 please vivek3
[15:33] <Odd-rationale> HF-mobile: passwd
[15:33] <vivek3> okay
[15:33] <cpk1> screamfd: all I noticed you asking help for was how to see your hard drives, if there is an issue beyond that you need to describe it
[15:34] <HF-mobile> K thx
[15:34] <murlidhar> unop, is it sudo apt-get install libgtk-dev
[15:34] <screamfd> cpk1: Yes,but...
[15:36] <kei-clone> Since I installed xserver-xgl (and then subsequently uninstalled), everytime I log into gnome the system goes like "X server keyboard configuration different from gnome configuration" then I have to choose whether to use the X configuration or gnome configuration. I choose gnome configuration everytime but how can i get this popup to stop coming up?
[15:36] <hazard5150> Anybody have any suggestions how I can get the installer to quit hanging at the Prepare Partitions phase?
[15:36] <Odd-rationale> hazard5150: livecd or alternatice?
[15:36] <unop> murlidhar, libgtk2.0-dev
[15:36] <Odd-rationale> *alternative
[15:36] <hazard5150> Odd-rationale: The former.
[15:36] <cpk1> screamfd: but what?
[15:36] <Jaffarkelshac> Jaymac just tried it out, its very good quality and the size is not huge.
[15:36] <dorkface> Hi all.  I'm trying to produce ascii characters for a project, but the way I am familiar with to make the characters, pressing alt+ 3 numbers, doesn't seem to work for me in ubuntu.  Any suggestions?
[15:36] <Odd-rationale> hazard5150: Have you tried the alt cd?
[15:36] <screamfd> cpk1: I can't use my data disc by ubuntu. Beause it read not,too?
[15:36] <hazard5150> Odd-rationale: I used gparted fromt he livecd to resize a Windows partition, and went from there.
[15:37] <hazard5150> Odd-rationale: I was unaware of an alternative.
[15:37] <hazard5150> Odd-rationale: I just downloaded the disc from the Ubuntu site.
[15:37] <screamfd> cpk1: Another cd's readed it
[15:37] <cpk1> screamfd: data disc? you mean hard drive? you have more than one hard drive in your computer?
[15:37] <Odd-rationale> !alternative | hazard5150
[15:37] <hazard5150> Well, technically from download.com, where I was linked from the Ubuntu site.
[15:37] <ubotu> hazard5150: The Alternate CD is a classical text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD.  Look for the alternate checkbox on the Ubuntu download page - See also !minimal
[15:37] <Jaymac> Jaffarkelshac, glad it's working. :)
[15:37] <unop> dorkface, use the gnome-character-map to import those characters
[15:37] <dorkface> unop: ah, ty
[15:37] <screamfd> cpk1: No  Cd driver
[15:38] <murlidhar> unop, thanks
[15:38] <unop> dorkface, or use something like - perl -e 'print chr 10'
[15:38] <hazard5150> Odd-rationale: Ok, I'll check that out. Although I'll admit to some trepidation regarding installing via the shell. Not that that's daunting, but because if that's what I wanted to do, I'd have stuck with Gentoo.
[15:38] <screamfd> cpk1:*mean
[15:38] <cpk1> screamfd: cds should normally automount in ubuntu...
[15:38] <Odd-rationale> hazard5150: Relax. The alternativecd has a nice "console gui"
[15:39] <frajer> jebcie sie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[15:39] <Johnson_> hey. keyring manager keeps sayig i dont have axcess anyone else have that problem
[15:39] <hazard5150> Odd-rationale: The only point where I'm really experiencing trepidation is with /boot, because this is my first attempt at creating a dual boot machine.
[15:39] <Jaffarkelshac> Jaymac i get an error when trying to record with sound, do you get that?
[15:39] <polishpaul> hey, does backspace work by default in firefox? cause.. umm. it didn't for me.
[15:39] <Blackthorn> hello, kinda new to unbuntu and just setting up my second server. I pulled the server edition this time and I pulled a tar file that I need to compile. When I go to do the "make" tells me it isn't installed as well as no c++ complier/librarires.. what do I need to get?
[15:39] <Jaymac> Jaffarkelshac: I've never used it; let me have a look.
[15:39] <Odd-rationale> hazard5150: You have a separate /boot partition
[15:39] <Odd-rationale> ?
[15:39] <Starnestommy> Blackthorn: install build-essential
[15:39] <screamfd> cpk1: Sry I mean data disc, burning with nero? What do you do that ubuntu that read?
[15:40] <bazhang> build-essential is not default with server Blackthorn?
[15:40] <hazard5150> Odd-rationale: No. I was lead to believe that the installer could "take over" (for lack of a correct term) the MBR for the boot loader.
[15:40] <screamfd> cpk1: also the disc
[15:40] <cpk1> screamfd: you can check to see if the cd is already mounted by doing "mount"
[15:40] <Jaffarkelshac> does anyone get an error using gtk-recordmydesktop with sound?
[15:40] <ManicMethod> bazhang: ewww, why would you want a compiler on server by default?
[15:41] <Odd-rationale> hazard5150: Yes it will. But windows will be added to the grub menu automatically.
[15:41] <bazhang> ManicMethod: why would I want a server at all might be a better question ;]
[15:41] <Blackthorn> thanks star
[15:41] <screamfd> cpk1:where?
[15:41] <cpk1> ManicMethod: well some things might not be nicely packaged in a deb =)
[15:41] <cpk1> screamfd: in a terminal
[15:41] <Odd-rationale> hazard5150: GRUB is the bootloader used by Ubuntu.
[15:41] <hazard5150> Odd-rationale: That's waht I was hoping for. I was worried about having to set that up. This will also be my first experience with grub, since I've historically not needed the extra functionality, an used lilo instead.
[15:41] <Jaymac> Jaffarkelshac: what is your error.  Maybe you need the jack daemon running.
[15:42] <balamurugan> is it possible to get xfce desktop environment in ubuntu??  i have ubuntu 7.10.. can i get xfce in it??
[15:42] <Odd-rationale> hazard5150: So you already set up your partitons with the gparted live cd?
[15:42] <bazhang> balamurugan: sure; install xubuntu-desktop
[15:42] <balamurugan> bazhang, ty..
[15:42] <hazard5150> Odd-rationale: Yes. I resized the Windows one, created two ~30G empty partitions, and one 2.5G for swap.
[15:42] <hazard5150> Odd-rationale: Another idea occurs to me, does Ubuntu have any issue with resierfs?
[15:43] <screamfd> cpk1: right, also, sudo aet-get install mount?
[15:43] <balamurugan> bazhang, after doing that will i be able to choose the xfce session during login??
[15:43] <polishpaul> hey guys, you all use firefox i bet - does hitting backspace work for you?
[15:43] <cpk1> screamfd: no, you already have mount
[15:43] <balamurugan> polishpaul, no it doesnt.. use alt+ left ..
[15:43] <Odd-rationale> hazard5150: I don't know much about resierfs. Never used it myself
[15:43] <Jaffarkelshac> Jaymac description of the error is Recordmydesktop has exited with status 768 "Could not open/configure sound card"
[15:44] <bazhang> balamurugan: sure! ;]
[15:44] <polishpaul> balamurugan, that's gonna be a hard one to get used to... moving hands...
[15:44] <unop> polishpaul, backspace works in some instances - depends really
[15:44] <balamurugan> bazhang, ty..
[15:44] <bazhang> ;]
[15:44] <balamurugan> polishpaul, ya it is.. but i dont know how to enable backspace..
[15:44] <Jaymac> Jaffarkelshac: can't help I'm afraid.
[15:44] <polishpaul> i just wanna be able to browse with backspace (page back) - anyone know how to map it?
[15:44] <hazard5150> Odd-rationale: Is there a bug tracker that I should check? I'm wondering if perhaps the installer chokes on reiserfs.
[15:44] <Jaffarkelshac> Jaymac thanks for checking anyway
[15:44] <screamfd> cpk1: just a moment
[15:45] <Jaymac> Jaffarkelshac: try this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=553911
[15:45]  * nugz1212 has joined.
[15:45] <Odd-rationale> hazard5150: try the launchpad.net
[15:45] <cpk1> bleh reiser
[15:45] <salah> Is there any possibility to install Ubuntu with minimal software?
[15:45]  * cpk1 wonders what happened to reiser after the whole incident...
[15:45] <balamurugan> salah, use the live cd..
[15:45] <FlyingSquirrel32> Hey, I urgently need to send a HTML email I've created. but its an HTML file, not in evolution. Any ideas?
[15:45] <hazard5150> cpk1: I believe he was convicted, and is serving a sentence while trying to appeal.
[15:45] <astro76> !minimal | salah
[15:45] <ubotu> salah: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[15:46] <salah> astro76, I love you
[15:46] <salah> thanks a lot
[15:46] <cpk1> hazard5150: I meant the fs when I first typed it and then realized I was interested in the man too =P
[15:46] <hyperair> hello there! does anyone have a working set up of pulseaudio using dmix?
[15:46] <ce_cuTe> GTFFTFF
[15:46] <hyperair> ._. what?
[15:46] <hazard5150> cpk1: Supposedly the fs will also be maintained by others in his absence, but I can't say that I'm positive about either of these statements.
[15:47] <ce_cuTe> @%$@#$$#@##%$#$#%^$^#
[15:47] <salah> astro76, can I  start this from a memory stick you think?
[15:47] <ce_cuTe> @!%$$%$%$@#$
[15:47] <bazhang> ce_cuTe: not here please
[15:47] <salah> just extract the files on it and start it? (my computer supports that)
[15:47] <astro76> !install | salah should be possible, check here
[15:47] <ubotu> salah should be possible, check here: Ubuntu can be installed in a lot of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall. Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[15:47] <screamfd> cpk1: what do you mean the "mount"? A prog or command
[15:48] <cpk1> screamfd: its a command
[15:48] <salah> thanks a lot
[15:48] <hazard5150> Odd-rationale: It appears my guess is correct. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/partman-partitioning/+bug/151670
[15:49] <hazard5150> Odd-rationale: The person who responded to it mentions that it should be noted if anybody has similar problems in other setups, but I don't see an option to do so.
[15:49] <Odd-rationale> hazard5150: ext3 is pretty good anyways.
[15:49] <hazard5150> Odd-rationale: Yeah, I don't so much mind changing, it's a minor annoyance, but I should probably find the way to add my issue to that bug.
[15:49] <screamfd> cpk1:ok
[15:50] <screamfd> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/61024/
[15:50] <balamurugan> i have the xubuntu installation disc and i already have ubuntu 7.10 in my system.. will i be able to install xubuntu-desktop package from the installation disc rather than downloading it from the net?? if so how??
[15:51] <Jaymac> balamurugan: yes, you just need to add a line to your sources.list file.
[15:51] <dvandyk> hi
[15:51] <dvandyk> can somebody tell me where i can get the kernel config for a given package?
[15:51] <unop_> balamurugan, use the apt-cdrom command to use the xubuntu cd
[15:51] <dvandyk> in my case, for kernel-image-2.6.22-14-cell-di
[15:51] <cpk1> screamfd: so your cd isnt mounted, you will need to mount it first
[15:52] <balamurugan> unop, ty
[15:52] <hazard5150> Is Loic Minier somebody in here?
[15:52] <screamfd> cpk1: that mean?
[15:52] <unop_> Balaams_Miracle, once you have run that, you might (note might not should) be able to - apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[15:52] <unop_> balamurugan, ^^^
[15:52] <balamurugan> unop_, means?
[15:53] <unop_> balamurugan, depends if xubuntu-desktop and all it's dependencies are available as packages on the CD-Rom
[15:53] <hazard5150> Odd-rationale: Is there another way to report that the bug, as written, is not the bug in its entirety? I don't really feel like registering with that site.
[15:53] <balamurugan> unop_, oh okay..
[15:53] <screamfd> balamurugan: Terminal, sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[15:53] <unop_> balamurugan, not all the CD's contents are .deb packages ..
[15:54] <balamurugan> unop_, fine its better i install it from internet..
[15:54] <cpk1> screamfd: first you need to figure out the logical name of your cd drive... "sudo lshw" and then find the cd drive and look what it says its logical name is (most likely scd1 or somesuch)
[15:54] <FlyingSquirrel32> I have a HTML file. How can I send it as an Email?
[15:54] <hyperair> bumpity bump. does anyone know how to get pulseaudio working well with dmix?
[15:54] <unop_> balamurugan, well, do try the CD first
[15:54] <Odd-rationale> hazard5150: You will need a launchpad account. Sorry...
[15:54] <Lainy> Is it normal that when I change to another session in screen, username@computername~$ is vertically aligned in the center?
[15:54] <balamurugan> unop, ok let me try..
[15:54] <Jax> synaptic isn't much help to install jre-6u5-linux-i586.bin
[15:54] <jussi01> hazard5150: try #ubuntu-mobile
[15:54] <screamfd> cpk1: Has you icq ?
[15:54] <unop_> balamurugan, worth a try atleast -- and if it works, it saves you the hassle of downloading all the packages over again
[15:54] <Toznoshio> I'm trying to uninstall gimp, and it's warning me that it's also going to uninstall ubuntu-desktop ... what are the consequences of uninstalling ubuntu-desktop?
[15:54] <ichbinich> I have a Question
[15:54] <cpk1> screamfd: then you need to mount it, lets say the logical name was /dev/scd1 and you wanted to mount it to /media/cdrom you would do "sudo mount /dev/scd1 /media/cdrom
[15:55] <ichbinich> Are Germans here
[15:55] <screamfd> cpk1: Becauce , I#m eating
[15:55] <Jaymac> Toznoshio: ubuntu-desktop is a meta-package for everything that ubuntu depends... if you uninstall it, you risk future upgrades not pulling down all of the applications you need.
[15:55] <hazard5150> Odd-rationale: That seems kind of silly, since it is offputting to folks like myself who would be happy to help out if not for the speed bumps put in the way.
[15:55] <hazard5150> jussi01: What is different about that channel that I should try?
[15:55] <tourist-tam> any nubuntu user?
[15:55] <Jax> Can anyone assist me with installing jre-6u5-linux-i586.bin?
[15:56] <Toznoshio> Jaymac: so I should give up uninstalling gimp then, right?
[15:56] <erUSUL> !java | Jax
[15:56] <cpk1> screamfd: there are plenty of other people that will be here if you need help after you eat
[15:56] <ubotu> Jax: To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository (in !Backports for !Edgy)
[15:56] <Jaymac> Toznoshio: personally I don't like to screw around with anything that wants to remove ubuntu-desktop :)
[15:56] <ichbinich> My Wlan kart did nor work corectly I have an Intel  Kart can Anyone help me ?
[15:56] <Toznoshio> Jaymac: ok, thanks
[15:56] <jussi01> hazard5150: its likely you will find loic there
[15:57] <hazard5150> jussi01: Ah, very good. Thank you kindly.
[15:57] <balamurugan> how do i change the boot splash screen?? (not the grub splash.. the os boot splash screen)..??
[15:57] <ichbinich> I need help
[15:57] <screamfd> cpk1:ok I'm eating thx for your help
[15:58] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto balamurugan
[15:58] <aguthrie> hi, I'm not being prompted to upgrade to Gutsy in the updates window. I'm running feisty right now
[15:58] <Jeruvy> I'm trying to add a user according to the 'samba file server' doc on 'howtoforge' and I cannot get the user added.  I get NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED, and I'm not sure how to troubleshoot that?
[15:58] <bazhang> aguthrie: do you want to be so prompted?
[15:59] <aguthrie> bazhang: yes
[15:59] <aguthrie> I guess I can just update sources.list?
[15:59] <Pici> !upgrade | aguthrie please follow the reccomended upgrade methods
[15:59] <ubotu> aguthrie please follow the reccomended upgrade methods: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[16:00] <bazhang> aguthrie: you could change fiesty to gutsy in sources list refresh then dist-upgrade if you wish
[16:00] <aguthrie> those instructions don't work for me, which is why I'm here
[16:00] <aguthrie> bazhang: ok
[16:01] <aguthrie> just curious as to why the dist upgrade isn't offered in the updates window
[16:01] <ivanguerrero> ola
[16:01] <Jeruvy> ITS BETA
[16:01] <ichbinich> I have this Wlan kart Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection the driver was installed by installing Ubuntu to my Hard drive but If i connect to my Router nothing happend
[16:01] <aguthrie> gutsy is still beta? :S
[16:01] <bazhang> Jeruvy: gutsy she means ;]
[16:01] <ivanguerrero> soy español
[16:01] <aguthrie> have we not passed oct. '07?
[16:01] <Jeruvy> oh ;)
[16:01] <bazhang> ivanguerrero: /j #ubuntu-es por favor ;]
[16:01] <cpk1> Jeruvy: add a user to the system?
[16:02] <sipior> aguthrie: generally speaking, jumping between different releases is not done by default. feisty machines will remain so unless the update manager is told to look for a distribution upgrade
[16:02] <aguthrie> sipior: what flag is that to update-manager? I tried -p and -c and got nothing
[16:02] <Jeruvy> cpk1: I'm trying to add an RPC user.
[16:03] <FlyingSquirrel32> Can someone Pleeese help me. I'm really in a time crunch.
[16:03] <FlyingSquirrel32> I have a HTML file I need to send as an HTML formatted email
[16:03] <bazhang> FlyingSquirrel32: best to ask quickly then ;]
[16:03] <sipior> aguthrie: -c should do it. was there an error?
[16:04] <Jeruvy> cpk1: "net rpc user add <username> -U root"  results in error
[16:04] <aldaek> ive upgraded ubuntu to kubuntu and mythbuntu (all 3 installed) and i cannot find the mythtv control center while in kde and somehow the user switcher is not working while in gnome (using kdm). will switching back to gdm make kde functions not work/
[16:04] <zkjellberg> Wpooo
[16:05] <balamurugan> i have both kde and gnome in my ubuntu 7.10.. now if i upgrade to 8.04 beta using the auto update tool in gnome, will kde also be upgraded to kde 4??
[16:06] <Pici> balamurugan: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Hardy/8.04 support/discussion.
[16:06] <nugz1212> don't think so
[16:06] <FlyingSquirrel32> bazhang: perhaps you didnt see my ?? I have a HTML file I need to send as an HTML formatted email
[16:06] <balamurugan> Pici ,sorry n thanks..
[16:07] <aguthrie> sipior: hrm, I think I didn't use gksu before to run it
[16:07] <sipior> aguthrie: that would be a problem
[16:07] <slashzul> anyone know how to undo a apt-get update that broke my mysql server?
[16:08] <slashzul> guess I want to go back to previous mysql version before breaking
[16:08] <sipior> slashzul: perhaps the upgrade installed a default set of config files? easier simply to restore them, in that case.
[16:08] <Odd-rationale> Does irssi have sound support? like a sound notification when your nick is highlighted?
[16:09] <Exteris> Odd-rationale, irssi can execute a command when that happens right? if so, there you go :P
[16:10] <Odd-rationale> Exteris: ok.
[16:10] <Odd-rationale> Is irssi similar to finch?
[16:10] <aguthrie> FlyingSquirrel32: which e-mail client are you using? why not ask them?
[16:10] <evan_> !hardy
[16:10] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[16:11] <geos64> hi
[16:11] <FlyingSquirrel32> aguthrie: Well I use evolution. but I also tried using sendmail.
[16:11] <geos64> i need kde 4.0.0
[16:11] <geos64> not 4.3
[16:12] <Jaymac> geos64: I'd hope so, as I'd imagine KDE 4.3 won't be around for a year or two yet :)
[16:13] <geos64> ooo
[16:14] <geos64> jaymac so wher cann i get 4.0
[16:14] <Pici> !kde4 | geos64
[16:14] <ubotu> geos64: KDE 4.0.2 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.2.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.2.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[16:14] <bazhang> FlyingSquirrel32: I tend to use gmail; not sure that I can help you here
[16:14] <sipior> FlyingSquirrel32: what exactly are you trying to do?
[16:15] <bazhang> he wants to send html file as html email sipior
[16:16] <geos64> will i work on debin 2.0
[16:17] <bazhang> geos64: what is debin 2.0?
[16:17] <Pici> geos64: If you are using Debian, then you should be asking in #debian, not in #ubuntu, or perhaps in #kde
[16:17] <FlyingSquirrel32> sipior, bazhang: I have an HTML file that's exactly perfect with lots of HTML formatting andreferences to publicly available pic, css and such.
[16:17] <Kik__> ..
[16:17] <FlyingSquirrel32> I need to send this file to a client as an email.
[16:18] <geos64> debian
[16:18] <FlyingSquirrel32> sipior, bazhang:^
[16:18] <bazhang> geos64: wrong channel then
[16:18] <Pici> bazhang: see my response above :)
[16:18] <Kik__> Im trying to run a irc client (Jircii) from the terminal, and im trying to put it into the background. i can get the program to run, via jircii from terminal, and when i try jircii &  - the irc client closes when i close the terminal. how do i keep it running
[16:18] <Jaymac> bazhang loves to jump in 20 seconds too late ;)
[16:19] <ikonia> Kik__ use something like screen
[16:19] <bc229> is there a known issue with synergy and hardy?
[16:19] <Pici> bazhang: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Hardy/8.04 support/discussion.
[16:19] <Pici> bc229: see above ^
[16:19] <kane77> can I create compressed files in console that will be separated after certain length (100MB) (something like rar can do) ??
[16:19] <bc229> yus ty :)
[16:19] <aguthrie> Kik__: take a look at `nohup'
[16:19] <Pici> bazhang: tab complete :(
[16:19] <sipior> FlyingSquirrel32: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/171
[16:19] <bazhang> haha
[16:19] <Kik__> ahh
[16:20] <aguthrie> Kik__: but I'd recommend just running a screen session
[16:20]  * sipior can't believe he's enabling the html people...there's an extra ten years in purgatory...
[16:20] <aguthrie> Kik__: that way you can get to it from other boxes via ssh when you're away :)
[16:20] <Kik__> that works
[16:20] <Kik__> ty
[16:21] <ricanelite> any application any of you could suggest that is similar to Media Center on Windows. Also when I try to delete or add songs to my ipod. Nothing happens, I'm using Banshee
[16:21] <geos64> do linux netboot
[16:21] <ikonia> geos64: you can net boot a linux client
[16:22] <ikonia> ricanelite: media center is probably closest to mythtv
[16:22] <unop_> kane77, you can create the compressed file and split it up with 'split' or use 'zipsplit' to create split .zip files compatible with winzip, etc
[16:22] <flinttown420> mythtv on my box freezes the audio and video after a few seconds of view
[16:22] <flinttown420> never have got it to work with my cox digital cable
[16:22] <geos64> do i need to setup some thing
[16:23] <ikonia> geos64: yes, it's a reasonable ammount of setup work
[16:23] <flinttown420> yea it is
[16:23] <flinttown420> lotso typing
[16:23] <ikonia> flinttown420: individual experiences will vary
[16:23] <flinttown420> heh
[16:23] <h4vvk> yep i like ubuntu too~
[16:23] <flinttown420> ati all in wonder pro
[16:23] <B1> isn't there away to run the regular x86 ubuntu on my 64 amd?
[16:23] <geos64> i have 6.0.6 v
[16:23] <ikonia> B1: yes, just install it
[16:23] <kane77> unop_, thanx.. how do I join them after I use split?
[16:23] <Pici> geos64: I thougt you were using Debian?
[16:23] <ikonia> B1: x86 will work on x86_64 chips
[16:23] <frank_> flinttown420: how did you capture digital cable? from video out or directly from firewire (if you box supports it)
[16:24] <h4vvk> x86 can still work on x86_64chps
[16:24] <bazhang> ricanelite: the newest ipod? you can either compile libgpod 0.6.0 now or wait til the end of April when it will be in the next release
[16:24] <B1> i have the dvd... but it's not booting
[16:24] <geos64> i got a dual boot debian and ubuntu
[16:24] <B1> i mean it's booting but when I click run or install ubnutu
[16:25] <B1> it just goes sleeeeeeep
[16:25] <ricanelite> i have a ipod nano 1gig
[16:25] <ricanelite> the old models
[16:25] <h4vvk> shuffle
[16:25] <flinttown420> who asked me a quesiton
[16:25] <ikonia> B1 thats most likley an issue with your cd/hardware rather than x86->x86_64 isues, most common your graphics card.
[16:25] <flinttown420> oh
[16:25] <bazhang> ricanelite: it works fine with amarok on gutsy
[16:25] <h4vvk> I have iphone
[16:25] <frank_> flinttown420: how did you capture digital cable? from video out or directly from firewire (if you box supports it) me?
[16:25] <ricanelite> amarok?
[16:25] <ikonia> B1: do you have an ati graphics card by any chance ?
[16:25] <flinttown420> my box doesnt support firewire, they took it out of their digital cable boxes
[16:25] <B1> yep
[16:25] <flinttown420> made headlines when they did it to heh
[16:26] <flinttown420> going through straight coax in
[16:26] <flinttown420> from cable box
[16:26] <ikonia> B1: try using the alternative cd image, that removes a lot of the pain with troublesome graphics cards (most common ati )
[16:26] <frank_> flinttown420: you captured video with all in wonder? hardware encoders are much better ;-)
[16:26] <flinttown420> basically same as a tv connection
[16:26] <codemasters> hi
[16:26] <flinttown420> when i first got it working, it was real smooth, but the screen was REALLY out of color focus
[16:26] <codemasters> i have some problem in installation..
[16:26] <B1> hmmm
[16:26] <geos64> im seting a dual nethome server
[16:26] <flinttown420> did something, than after that it was all frozen a few seconds into the stream
[16:26] <haha> what problems?
[16:26] <ricanelite> i wont be able to use amarok because im using a gnome desktop
[16:27] <B1> thanks
[16:27] <bazhang> please ask codemasters and try to provide some details ;]
[16:27] <codemasters> it's not installing Grub or any bood loader..
[16:27] <bazhang> ricanelite: amarok and other kde apps work fine with gnome for the most part
[16:27] <cpk1> ricanelite: it doesnt matter, you can still load the qt libraries
[16:27] <frank_> flinttown420: probaly related to your capture card. I use a Hauppauge PVR-150 and it works fine
[16:27] <Pici> ricanelite: Why not? Nearly all 'KDE applications' can run in gnome.
[16:27] <FlyingSquirrel32> sipior: Good but I don't have mail installed, what program is it supposed to point to?
[16:27] <ricanelite> oh really okay
[16:27] <codemasters> and it even corrupts the mbr..
[16:27] <ricanelite> im going to install it rigt now
[16:27] <flinttown420> frank_ well im using an ati tv wonder pro
[16:27] <flinttown420> my bad, sorry i said all in wonder pro before
[16:27] <ikonia> CoasterMaster: corrupts the mbr ? please expand
[16:28] <flinttown420> i meant tv wonder pro
[16:28] <polishpaul> i'm using x-chat, how can i turn off the JOIN / LEAVE announcements of the room?
[16:28] <flinttown420> yea polishpaul i was thinking the same thing
[16:28] <codemasters> my windows doesnt boot as well
[16:28] <frank_> flinttown420: yes but that is a frame grabber. pvr-150 does hardware encoding
[16:28] <haha> dont worry.
[16:28] <sipior> FlyingSquirrel32: sudo apt-get install mailutils
[16:28] <flinttown420> yea i figured that, i never had a problem on the xp box though with this
[16:28] <bkoch> polish you right click on the room on the left side then uncheck show join/part
[16:28] <cpk1> ricanelite: amarok might have a lot of dependencies though when you install it, just be prepared to have to install a lot of other things when you install amarok
[16:28] <geos64> i whan to netboot my linux
[16:28] <ricanelite> yeah i just notice it
[16:29] <keshavkhera> Which graphic card has opensource drivers and work seamlessly with intel motherboard?: I presently have an ATI radeon xpress 200 series graphic card. It only provides closed-sourced drivers for Ubuntu. I have tried hard to configure it for ubuntu but unfortunately every time i installed the drivers, my ubuntu installation crashed. I have read many other threads in the forum regarding the problems faced with this card like this one http://ubuntuforum
[16:29] <keshavkhera> s.org/showthread.php?t=359290 I am thinking of changing my graphic card to a more advanced one, as this one is just onboard and doesn't go well with ubuntu ( it crashed in kubuntu and open Suse as well ) So i would like to know about the graphic cards who provider us with open source drivers or work very well with closed sourced ones ( well with compiz fusion ) Ps- i tried both the restricted drivers manager and Envy.
[16:29] <ricanelite> thanks for the heads up
[16:29] <DRebellion> geos64, you mean wake on lan?
[16:29] <polishpaul> bkoch, omg that was so easy THANX
[16:29] <bkoch> yeah I had to google it yesterday polish yw
[16:29] <bazhang> geos64: then get the 9MB minimal iso and add what you want
[16:29] <sipior> FlyingSquirrel32: presumably you already have your machine configured to send mail?
[16:29] <flinttown420> my x-chat doesnt have that for some reason
[16:29] <polishpaul> bkoch, yeah i was coming up empty :|
[16:29] <ikonia> keshavkhera: no high performance graphics cards have truley open source drivers. Nvidia seems to be a bit more worth while investment at the moment, however ATI should be the best option in the very long run
[16:29] <geos64> wake on lan what that
[16:29] <Jack_Sparrow> keshavkhera, /join #Compiz for help with that card
[16:29] <frank_> ricanelite: amarok depends on kde libraries so it will install that if this is the first kde program you install
[16:30] <ricanelite> yea
[16:30] <ricanelite> it is
[16:30] <keshavkhera> thank you guys for you opinion
[16:30] <flinttown420> frank_ but i never had a problem with windows xp and ati's control center
[16:30] <DRebellion> geos64, when powered off, your ethernet card listens for a "magic" packet that will switch on the computer.
[16:30] <codemasters> can some one hlp me to install or fix the mbr pklease..
[16:30] <ikonia> codemasters: you've not told us the problem with it yet
[16:30] <haha> i can
[16:30] <sipior> FlyingSquirrel32: alternatively, you can get Evolution to add a "Content-type: text/html" header to your message. this is no good for scripting, but as a one-off...
[16:30] <haha> reconstruct your mbr
[16:31] <geos64> i whan to boot on linux dever via winpc
[16:31] <aguthrie> polishpaul: if you can't figure it out, you might want to try in #xchat on this network
[16:31] <GillaGal> Any idea why the window border disappears when using Emerald theme?
[16:31] <FlyingSquirrel32> sipior: But I don't think gmail will take my email for some reason. isit possible to do it through evolution?
[16:31] <ikonia> geos64 ok, then you need to setup netboot and pxe boot
[16:31] <ikonia> !netboot
[16:31] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[16:32] <codemasters> ikonia, after the installation is ove when i reboot my machine.it des not boot..says mbr is not found..
[16:32] <frank_> flinttown420: I don't know how good driver support for all in wonder is in linux. If you want a decent mythtv experience, it's much easier with some of the well supported capture cards
[16:32] <codemasters> installation is clear..
[16:32] <ikonia> codemasters how many hard disks do you have in your machine ?
[16:32] <geos64> do i need that  pxe boot
[16:32] <sipior> FlyingSquirrel32: well, if you're going to use gmail, why not simply attach the html file to it?
[16:32] <FlyingSquirrel32> sipior: it seems to send the mail. but I never recieve anything. Already checked spam too
[16:32] <haha> you can use windows xp to reboot and fix that problem
[16:32] <haha> winxp disk
[16:33] <captainm> GillaGal, try alt-f2 and typing emerald --replace
[16:33] <haha> win xp dic
[16:33] <ikonia> geos64 depends how far you want to go, read the links I've just posted you and see how far you want to go
[16:33] <codemasters> ikonia, only onewith WinXP installed on first partition..
[16:33] <ikonia> codemasters: thats exceptionally odd then that grub did not get installed to the mbr of the disk.
[16:33] <ikonia> !grub > codemasters
[16:33] <ikonia> codemasters: the link that ubotu sent you will walk you through installing grub manually
[16:33] <FlyingSquirrel32> sipior:I could but the whole point of making it was so it would look professional. I never dreamed it would be this hard in an open-source world
[16:33] <GillaGal> captainm: alt-F2 don't bring up the run window
[16:33] <haha> use fdisk/mbr
[16:34] <ikonia> ha haha that won't help him get his ubuntu install working
[16:34] <haha> fdisk /mbr,  it can save your system
[16:34] <geos64> i see that need  pxe boot or not
[16:34] <ikonia> his system is not lost
[16:34] <haha> yep
[16:34] <codemasters> okie : ikonia
[16:34] <sipior> FlyingSquirrel32: adding a "Content-type: text/html" header to your message is not hard, in any world. but gmail is not open-sourced, to my knowledge...
[16:34] <haha> just mbr lost
[16:34] <ikonia> geos64: read the link and decide if you want to use pxe or not
[16:34] <captainm> GillaGal, use the terminal then
[16:34] <haha> it doesn't matter
[16:35] <FlyingSquirrel32> sipior: also, I'm sending the mail to my gmail account as a test.
[16:35] <haha> use pxe or DOS to boot you pc ,and use command fdisk /mbr
[16:35] <ikonia> haha: what are you talking about
[16:35] <sipior> FlyingSquirrel32: i'm quite sure Evolution will allow you to stick in extra header lines, so have a go with that
[16:35] <GillaGal> captainm:   Well that's yet another issue... when I try launching a term window, it's all white... can't type it in.
[16:35] <ikonia> codemasters: ignore that
[16:35] <FlyingSquirrel32> sipior: does my firewall need an open port for sending emails (no recieving)
[16:35] <ikonia> codemasters: just read the link I sent you
[16:35] <unop_> kane77, cat split1 split2 split3 >> joined_file
[16:35] <sipior> FlyingSquirrel32: if it blocks port 25 outbound, then yes :-)
[16:35] <codemasters> okie sir : ikonia
[16:36] <kane77> unop_, thank you very much..
[16:36] <FlyingSquirrel32> sipior: I'll double check
[16:36] <haha> he say that his mbr has been corrputed, i just tell him how to fix this problem
[16:36] <sipior> FlyingSquirrel32: or maybe your isp does that further upstream...i hear some do
[16:36] <ricanelite> okay i got amarok running thanks guys, now when i connected my ipod the music player opens fine. ipod icon is displayed on my desktop but now when i opened up amarok and click on devices nothing is listed there.
[16:36] <unop_> kane77, thats only if you used split (not zipsplit) tho
[16:36] <ikonia> haha: no - your solution will not help him fix his installation and gain access to his ubuntu system
[16:36] <sipior> FlyingSquirrel32: what are you using to send the message now?
[16:36] <haha> yep, that's right~but can access into win xp
[16:36] <codemasters> ikonia: i always install linux after windows installation ..
[16:37] <ikonia> haha: thats not what he asked for
[16:37] <haha> sorry~
[16:37] <ikonia> codemasters: thats a very sensible approach
[16:37] <bazhang> ricanelite: you need to make sure the ipod is mounted
[16:37] <ricanelite> how do i check?
[16:37] <captainm> GillaGal, That's a separate issue? Which version of ubuntu are you running?
[16:37] <FlyingSquirrel32> sipior: both mail and evolution.
[16:38] <sipior> FlyingSquirrel32: and is evolution configured to use a local sendmail, or an external mail server?
[16:38] <codemasters> i dont know it is much usefull:ikonia eill try and let u know
[16:38] <FlyingSquirrel32> sipior: Its sending through my gmail account.
[16:38] <GillaGal> captainm:  7.10    Everything was working fine... till I added dual monitors today.  Now Emerald isn't working (no top to windows) and my term windows are all white, can't type in them.
[16:39] <sipior> FlyingSquirrel32: that's fine. and adding the header line in Evolution didn't work?
[16:39] <haha> kernel (hd0,0)/grub.exe boot To boot GRUB via LILO, use these lines in lilo.conf: image=/boot/grub.exe label=grub.exe To boot GRUB via SYSLINUX, use these lines in syslinux.cfg: label grub.exe kernel grub.exe grub
[16:39] <ikonia> haha: thats an over the top solution
[16:39] <FlyingSquirrel32> sipior: no, I got back exactly what I put in.
[16:39] <ikonia> codemasters: I advise you to not follow haha's solution
[16:39] <ikonia> haha: that solution also won't work as he currently can't boot grub
[16:39] <sipior> FlyingSquirrel32: could you verify that there aren't two Content-type headers in the recieved message?
[16:40] <codemasters> and am  i be able to install gcc 2.9.3 in it..?
[16:40] <ikonia> codemasters: install gcc ??? install gcc into what ?
[16:40] <codemasters> i did not understand you : ikonia
[16:40] <ikonia> codemasters: follow the link ubotu sent you
[16:40] <codemasters> ikonia: lower version
[16:40] <haha> how can u install it?
[16:40] <captainm> GillaGal, only your terminal windows are white? That's really odd
[16:41] <haha> reinstall ubuntun
[16:41] <codemasters> gcc old versio in ubuntu..?
[16:41] <screamfd> I'm back
[16:41] <GillaGal> captainm:  yes.  everything else works...   might have something to do with emerald and transparent windows.
[16:41] <codemasters> i tryied 3 time installing ubuntu..
[16:41] <codemasters> already
[16:41] <FlyingSquirrel32> sipior: there were two headers. but the first one was text/plain.
[16:41] <haha> dont install xp
[16:41] <FlyingSquirrel32> sipior: I'll try doing an html email
[16:41] <ikonia> codemasters why ar eyou talking about gcc ??? grub is the problem
[16:42] <sipior> FlyingSquirrel32: you'll have to get it to alter the Content-type, instead of adding another one
[16:42] <haha> i am also confused
[16:42] <captainm> GillaGal, I was just about to say that. Try setting your terminal to solid color
[16:42] <Toznoshio> Issue: I'm trying to "apt-get -y install apt-file" and it's hanging at the point of "Setting up apt-file (2.0.8.2ubuntu2) ..." - then I have to hit Ctrl+C unfortunately because nothing is happening ... what could be causing this?
[16:42] <bazhang> haha do you have a question? or are you here to spread confusion
[16:42] <codemasters> no..thats my requirement in that linux...if thats possible then only i can continue in linux
[16:42] <screamfd> peaples what of multiboot hear?
[16:43] <sipior> FlyingSquirrel32: actually, evolution might just do this by default if you enable outgoing html-mail in one of the configuration options
[16:43] <haha>  i am just here help sb~
[16:43] <codemasters> or else i have to search for other disturbution :ikonia
[16:43] <screamfd> win xp and ubuntu..
[16:43] <ikonia> codemasters: you're telling me you can't boot ubuntu - why are you talking about gcc ?
[16:43] <GillaGal> captainm:  where do I set that?
[16:44] <screamfd> haha: By what?
[16:44] <theflamingpi> Does anyone know of a way to completely disable Ubuntu's faulty suspend/hibernate functions, and to stop kinit from looking for an image to resume?
[16:44] <haha> because he think he can access into ubuntu by installing gcc
[16:44] <codemasters> no i cant at the moment..any wasy even if i fix it..i just wanna know gcc 2.9.3 runs on it or not..?
[16:44] <captainm> GillaGal, in the terminal "Edit > Current profile > effects"
[16:44] <crashhandler> any chinese here..i want to ask about input method using skim.
[16:44] <ikonia> codemasters: gcc 2 is not available as a package, you'd have to build it yourself
[16:45] <captainm> GillaGal, and check "none (use solid color)"
[16:45] <screamfd> who will help?
[16:45] <bazhang> crashhandler: you need to use skim in xchat?
[16:45] <haha> help what?
[16:45] <codemasters> haha: moron..i am pro developer..i am installing for the first time
[16:45] <ikonia> codemasters: be respectful, there is no need for abuse
[16:45] <bazhang> codemasters: no names please
[16:45] <haha> i see~good luck
[16:45] <ikonia> codemasters: just be aware that gcc 2.9X will not be available as a core package, you'd have to build/package it yourself
[16:45] <codemasters> oh ok:ikonia
[16:45] <GillaGal> captainm:  lol  Umm... back to the initial problem then.... NO window borders.
[16:45] <bazhang> haha please go to #ubuntu-offopic
[16:46] <GillaGal> captainm:  The whole term window is white... can't see the edit, close, etc...
[16:46] <crashhandler> bazhang^  yes maybe. :)   i successfully setup n able to type in chinese using skim. but say in the input box,i type nihaoma ..so the characters are there,but when i hit Enter key,it reverts itself to roman character..how to fix that?
[16:47] <haha> ubuntu offopic do what?
[16:47] <crashhandler> maybe my q is too complicated
[16:47] <crashhandler> haha
[16:47] <codemasters> will that going to be hard...to make that build ..?
[16:47] <ikonia> codemasters: it can be quite complex
[16:47] <bazhang> crashhandler: you need to choose them via the numbers
[16:47] <LinuxMercedes> ok, so how do I set my sendmail up so I don't get "Deferred: connection timed out" when I send mail?
[16:47] <captainm> GillaGal, We need a working terminal or run application box to solve the original problem ;)
[16:47] <codemasters> can i get any link for it :ikonia..
[16:47] <bazhang> haha please stop; this is the second time you have been asked
[16:48] <ikonia> LinuxMercedes: thats normally because your machine can't talk to the target machine
[16:48] <ikonia> codemasters: not really no. Gcc is quite a beast to build
[16:48] <LinuxMercedes> ikonia: ok
[16:48] <TuxSpirit> hi all
[16:48] <haha> why i need to stop , i am teaching sb to fix his system
[16:48] <crashhandler> bazhang^  yes i know,the word is complete...but when i press enter (say,to search something in google)..the word is not chinese anymore..oh..what a question
[16:48] <LinuxMercedes> ikonia: well, the reciever is my gmail account, so it should be accessible
[16:49] <ikonia> LinuxMercedes: are you on a dhcp address or home/cable/adsl line ?
[16:49] <LinuxMercedes> ikonia: dsl
[16:49] <codemasters> thanks ikonia: i think i need to get started..
[16:49] <bazhang> !ot | haha
[16:49] <ubotu> haha: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[16:49] <codemasters> thanks a lot fellas
[16:49] <ikonia> LinuxMercedes: google may be black listing you as your not meant to run mail servers on home connections
[16:49] <LinuxMercedes> ikonia: ok
[16:49] <ikonia> LinuxMercedes: google uses some blacklists and most home/dsl/cable connections will be blacklisted
[16:49] <haha> okay ,i see, i am sorry:)
[16:49] <LinuxMercedes> ikonia: alright, does aol, too?
[16:50] <haha> bye ,every one~:)
[16:50] <ikonia> aol VERY much
[16:50] <screamfd> cpk1: That is the logical name:
[16:50] <screamfd> name: /dev/sda
[16:51] <justprogramming8>  i want to write c++ code and use open gl
[16:51] <LinuxMercedes> ikonia: alright, do you have any suggestions as to how I can set my server up to be able to mail out to some people?
[16:51] <justprogramming8> what i can do to do this
[16:51] <ikonia> LinuxMercedes: use your ISP's smtp server
[16:51] <LinuxMercedes> ikonia: would SMPT be a better choice?
[16:51] <talcite> did anyone else's printers disappear lately?
[16:51] <justprogramming8> ??
[16:51] <justprogramming8> ??
[16:51] <talcite> or just disappear in evince?
[16:51] <LinuxMercedes> ikonia: alright, so if I use, say, smpt.gmail.com, that should work?
[16:51] <justprogramming8> can some one help me
[16:51] <cdc> talcite, mine disappeared and I had to reset them.
[16:52] <talcite> cdc reset them?
[16:52] <sipior> justprogramming8: this isn't really a programming channel
[16:52] <ikonia> LinuxMercedes: no - is your ISP gmail ?
[16:52] <cdc> talcite, setup them back up
[16:52] <talcite> oh
[16:52] <talcite> thanks
[16:52] <codemasters> go ahed justprogramming8
[16:52] <ikonia> LinuxMercedes: to use gmail's smtp server you need to some sort of smtp authentication
[16:52] <LinuxMercedes> ikonia: no, AT&T
[16:52] <geos64> enye soft ware create image from boot manger
[16:52] <ikonia> LinuxMercedes: so your smtp server would be the smtp server that AT&T provide for you
[16:52]  * LinuxMercedes apologises for being so dense
[16:53] <ikonia> no need for that
[16:53] <hein_> Has anybody runing Virtualbox under 8.04?
[16:53] <LinuxMercedes> ikonia: alright, I'll look and see what that is
[16:53] <hischild> hein_, yes i do
[16:53] <ikonia> hein_: support for 8.04 is in the channel #ubuntu+1
[16:53] <ikonia> hein_: you may get better info there
[16:53] <unop_> what's this amazing rush by everyone to use hardy.. hein_ #ubuntu+1
[16:53] <captainm> GillaGal, Try adding Option "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True" to the device section in xorg.conf.
[16:53] <hein_> Ok, I switch teh channel.
[16:54] <ks> bash: mkinitrd: command not found
[16:54] <GillaGal> captainm:  ok.... brb
[16:54] <ks> apt-cache search mkinitrd
[16:54] <ks> yaird - Yet Another mkInitRD
[16:54] <screamfd> my logical name from cd diver is /dev/scd0 , how mount I that?
[16:55] <ks> where's mkinitrd in hardy ? :)
[16:55] <ikonia> ks: hardy support is in #ubuntu+1
[16:55] <Pici> ks: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Hardy/8.04 support/discussion.
[16:55] <ks> uh ok thanks
[16:55]  * LinuxMercedes is waiting for final hardy release before running it =]
[16:55] <r-> are there any general issues with ubuntu not seeing the full amount of RAM installed?
[16:56] <cdc> Kind of a dull question but. I search numerous websites on google to find a cool, inivative, theme for ubuntu and cannot find one. Anyone know of a good wallpaper/theme website for ubuntu. I am tired of the standard theme.
[16:56] <r-> there's 5G, but only 3 show up
[16:56] <unop_> screamfd, sudo mkdir -p /media/cdrom; sudo mount -a /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom
[16:56] <ikonia> r-: how much ram
[16:56] <ikonia> cdc: gnome-look.org
[16:56] <rbil> r-: takes a 64-bit OS to see that much RAM
[16:56] <r-> wonderous.
[16:56] <cdc> r-, 32bit kernals can only register 3.5gb of ram at most.
[16:56] <r-> heh.
[16:56] <mkz> ok, I've got one for ya: I've opened up an ssh port on my router and connect to my home machine via ssh.  I need to make a change to my router at home, so I use lynx to access the config (it's a wrt54g).  The pages are served via asp so they don't render completely and I can't get to the save option to save any changes.  I'd like to know: can I somehow port forward X though ssh to I can use a web browser on this machine to access my
[16:56] <mkz> home router?
[16:57]  * mkz at work
[16:57] <DRebellion> mkz, ssh -X
[16:57] <r-> sp the P4 3.2 will need to be run in hyperthreading mode, and i'll have to install ubuntu 64 ?
[16:57] <mkz> DRebellion: ok, so I think I've tried this.
[16:57] <mkz> DR
[16:57] <mkz> DRe
[16:57] <DRebellion> mkz, ssh -X user@host   then run firefox
[16:57] <mkz> DRebellion: (sorry, my spaz) I've connected to the server at home via ssh with ssh -X ipaddress...
[16:58] <r-> a new P4 that supports hyperthreading will support a 64bit install right?
[16:58] <ikonia> r-: dependons on the model
[16:58] <ikonia> what is the model number
[16:58] <cdc> ikonia, thanks
[16:58] <mkz> DRebellion: then while connected to the server I run firefox... but doesn't that just run firefox on the host machine?
[16:58] <screamfd> unop: mount: No medium , what I doing?
[16:58] <unop_> mkz, it runs firefox on the target, but the windows show up locally
[16:58] <mkz> DRebellion: what am I missing?
[16:58] <ikonia> screamfd: put a cdrom in
[16:58] <r-> from proc/cpuinfo: cpu family	: 15
[16:58] <r-> model		: 4
[16:58] <r-> model name	: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.20GHz
[16:58] <alexbobp> In the network manager, I set eth4 (my wired network connection) from unmanaged to dhcp.  Since then, every 15 minutes or so my dns capabilities stop working, and I can fix it temporarily by either restarting the network connection (sudo ifconfig eth4 down, up) or by going into the network settings and removing the dns server.  Does anybody know a solution?
[16:58] <r-> stepping	: 9
[16:58] <r-> etc.
[16:59] <ikonia> r-: whats the model though
[16:59] <ikonia> there are many pentium 4
[16:59] <DRebellion> mkz, are you running a local xserver (eg are you using linux?)
[16:59] <mkz> DRebellion: hmm... ok, and what if it doesnt?  I"ve checked that my sshd_config has X11forearding enabled...
[16:59] <unop_> screamfd, are you sure there's a valid CD in the drive -- it's not a blank CD is it?
[16:59] <Elevator_Hazard> How could I either get php-gtk to work with the php5 from the apt-get or somehow apt-get the proper php version (4.3.x)?
[16:59] <HeMan> hi
[16:59] <mkz> DRebellion: I am running linux on this machine (work) with X and the home machine.  X is also running on the home machine
[16:59] <screamfd> unop: Sry false cd, must be again mount . wait
[16:59] <DRebellion> mkz, so what's the problem?
[17:00] <sarah___> hey guys, i think i have a serious problem with my ubuntu. I tried to get updates, and it said the index was broken?
[17:00] <HeMan> http://127.0.1.1/HeMan
[17:00] <sarah___> It is impossible to install or remove any software. Please use the package manager "Synaptic" or run "sudo apt-get install -f" in a terminal to fix this issue at first.
[17:00] <mkz> DRebellion: mostly that I'm an idiot, apparently.  When I ssh into the home machine via ssh -X ##.##.##.## and run firefox nothing happens.
[17:00] <ikonia> HeMan: please don't post pointless ur's
[17:00] <mkz> DRebellion: wait
[17:01] <gamma-k> yo
[17:01] <mkz> DRebellion: could it be that it's incredibly slow and that I wasn't waiting?  A new firefox window just opened up while we were chatting...
[17:01] <MauL^_> generally ubuntu recognize my usb disk however sometimes it doesnt. now it didnt. how can I make it recognize without restarting?
[17:01] <sarah___> anybody have any ideas?
[17:01] <aldaek> how can i get to mythbuntu control center in kde?
[17:01] <rbil> mkz: yes
[17:01] <DRebellion> mkz, yep
[17:01] <Jaymac> sarah___: type sudo apt-get install -f in a terminal
[17:01] <screamfd> unop: That is my inssue
[17:01] <mkz> DRebellion: and I've entered the ip address of my router... it says that it's connecting, so maybe there is hope?
[17:01] <screamfd> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/61030/
[17:02] <bazhang> aldaek: you might want to ask in #ubuntu-mythtv
[17:02] <aldaek> thanks
[17:02] <unop_> screamfd, thats ok, its just warning you that it a read-only medium
[17:02] <unop_> screamfd, but its mounted anyway
[17:02] <gamma-k> I'm totally green here. Can anyone help me with a user rights problem. At least I think thats what it is.
[17:02] <sarah___> jaymac i did
[17:03] <sarah___> but i get this, "0 upgraded, 2 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[17:03] <sarah___> 112 not fully installed or removed.
[17:03] <sarah___> Need to get 0B/2695kB of archives.
[17:03] <sarah___> After unpacking 6091kB of additional disk space will be used.
[17:03] <sarah___> Do you want to continue [Y/n]? yes
[17:03] <sarah___> Media change: please insert the disc labeled
[17:03] <sarah___>  'Ubuntu 7.10 _Gutsy Gibbon_ - Release i386 (20071016)'
[17:03] <sarah___> in the drive '/cdrom/' and press enter
[17:03] <Pici> !paste | sarah___
[17:03] <sarah___> "
[17:03] <ubotu> sarah___: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[17:03] <sarah___> sorry Pici :(
[17:03] <murlidhar> how to change the gradient of a theme?
[17:03] <captainm> gamma-k, we can always try
[17:03] <Jaymac> sarah___: ok..  type in a terminal gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[17:03] <bazhang> sarah___: comment out the cd in your sources list
[17:03] <sarah___> ok
[17:03] <captainm> !ask | gamma-k
[17:03] <ubotu> gamma-k: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[17:03] <Jaymac> sarah___: the first line in that file is the cdrom; put a # in front of it, and then run the update again.
[17:04] <sarah___> ok
[17:04] <sarah___> one second
[17:04] <Toznoshio> Issue: I'm trying to "apt-get -y install apt-file" and it's hanging at the point of "Setting up apt-file (2.0.8.2ubuntu2) ..." - then I have to hit Ctrl+C unfortunately because nothing is happening ... what could be causing this?
[17:04] <screamfd> unop:ok is ok
[17:04] <ScottONanski> How do I install that cool panel bar with the animated icons? I have no idea what it's called but it look similar to the Mac OS thing.
[17:04] <Exteris> Toznoshio, try without the -y
[17:04] <gamma-k> captainm: thanks! I installed Ubuntu next to Vista and i need to hide the Windows volumes from other users. I don't know how.
[17:04] <CroX> I'm trying to use my USB headset with TeamSpeak but it just wont let me. When I check the sound settings in Gutsy it does record from the mic as it should, using USB Audio for Sound Capture, but I get a message saying:
[17:04] <CroX> Failed to construct test pipeline for 'gconfaudiosrc ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink profile=chat'
[17:04] <Exteris> ScottONanski, it's called AWN
[17:04] <murlidhar> can i edit gtk2 themes?????
[17:05] <screamfd> unop: must be again? that with the mount?
[17:05] <bazhang> ScottONanski: avant-window-navigator? you need to enable their repos and install from there
[17:05] <screamfd> unop: By another cd's
[17:05] <Elevator_Hazard> murlidhar in your theme's location then in the gtk2.0 folder its got what you want to edit.
[17:05] <Toznoshio> Exteris: I just tried - same behavior :(
[17:05] <sarah___> hmm jaymac, i still got the same error
[17:05] <mkz> it seems konqueror loads the page more quickly... though I can't imagine why...
[17:06] <murlidhar> Elevator_Hazard, does any editor comes for east editing?
[17:06] <Jaymac> sarah___: did you put a # in front of the line deb cdrom....... ?
[17:06] <captainm> gamma-k, press alt-f2 and type gksudo nautilus then you can just right-click on the volume and set the permissions under properties.
[17:06] <murlidhar> Elevator_Hazard, easy editing?
[17:06] <bazhang> sarah___: you need to update first
[17:06] <sarah___> oh ok
[17:06] <sarah___> one sec
[17:06] <pstangcjd> sarah___: apt-get update
[17:06] <Elevator_Hazard> murlidhar I think gedit has some syntax highlighting for it but I don't know of any... WYSIWYG kind of thing for it
[17:06] <Jack_Sparrow> !mint > keshavkhera,
[17:06] <CroX> Does anyone know what I could be doing wrong?
[17:07] <gamma-k> captainm: Excellent! I'll try that. Does it affect Windows rights in any way?
[17:07] <murlidhar> Elevator_Hazard, thanks
[17:07] <sarah___> You have 2 broken packages on your system!
[17:07] <sarah___> Use the "Broken" filter to locate them.
[17:07] <captainm> gamma-k, It won't affect the windows install (if that's what you mean)
[17:07] <Jaymac> sarah___: sudo apt-get install -f
[17:08] <sarah___> sudo apt-get install -f
[17:08] <sarah___> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[17:08] <sarah___> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[17:08] <gamma-k> captainm: That's exactly what I mean :)
[17:08] <DRebellion> sarah___, close any other package managers
[17:08] <Jaymac> sarah___: close your sources.list file, close synaptic, close update-manager
[17:08] <TuxSpirit> Bye all
[17:08] <sarah___> i dont have any package managers open or sources.list
 hello i found that my 3945abg intel wi-fi slow down to zero sometimes... what it can be?
[17:08] <sarah___> i just have irc open
[17:08] <Pici> !aptfix | sarah___
[17:08] <ubotu> sarah___: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[17:09] <sarah___> great, its killing the proc now :P
[17:09] <bazhang> loa on gutsy?
[17:10] <screamfd> unop: Thank's for your help , is all again ok.
[17:10] <loa> bazhang, yeh.
[17:10] <loa> bazhang, i try ipw3945 and iwl3945
[17:10] <bazhang> loa your own network?
[17:10] <stoon24> any think
[17:11] <gizzo> just how can one manage partitions in ubuntu? and i dont mean the hard way, i'm looking for a point and click way
[17:11] <gamma-k> captainm: I'm a little confused, there are two volumes on the desktop: System and WinRE. These do not show in Nautilus. Am I doing something wrong?
[17:11] <loa> bazhang, i have too computers and route. On one i have d-link adapter, and on other 3945abg
[17:11] <mkz> DRebellion: thanks for the help.  I was doing it right all along, I just wasn't being patient.
[17:11] <pstangcjd> gizzo: gparted
[17:11] <DRebellion> mkz, tut, tut :P
[17:11] <Jaymac> gizzo System > Administration > Partition Editor
[17:12]  * mkz shurgs
[17:12] <gizzo> pstangcjd: it keeps "scanning" the drives forever
[17:12] <loa> bazhang, i start ping on both, and see that 3945 miss about 30% of packets
[17:12]  * mkz still learning the ins-and-outs after all this time... :)
[17:12] <bazhang> loa what is the encryption on that?
[17:12] <bluefox83> i need an app for writing to pdf files...anyone know of one?
[17:12] <Jaymac> gamma-k: System is usually your / directory.
[17:12] <DRebellion> mkz, probably would have been faster to forward http over an ssh tunnel
[17:12] <Jaymac> gamma-k: you can probably find WinRE in /media/
[17:12] <bazhang> loa it could be interference from other devices
[17:12] <hackeron> does anyone one how I can provide live stream audio from a microphone? -- i.e. go to an address and be able to hear a live feed of the microphone on the other end
[17:13] <loa> bazhang, wpa2
[17:13] <captainm> gamma-k, you can find them in the /media/ folder. Be careful though. The command gksudo nautilus opens a nautilus window with root privileges. It's easy to mess something up as root ;)
[17:13] <gamma-k> Jaymac: captainm:  Thanks. I'll see that.
[17:13] <loa> bazhang, in notebook?
[17:13] <nDuff> hackeron, personally, I'd try using gstreamer.
[17:14] <screamfd> a question, can a command for uninstall using: sudo apt-get uninstall <prog> or? *put?
[17:14] <bazhang> loa well I have that same card and the performance is quite good; how is the ethernet connection on the other machine?
[17:14] <nDuff> hackeron, it supports network sources and sinks, so the whole thing should be fairly straightforward to rig.
[17:14] <unop_> bluefox83, iirc, all the openoffice applications can export files to pdf
[17:14] <loa> bazhang, all i ok.
[17:14] <loa> bazhang, *is
[17:14] <bazhang> screamfd: remove not uninstall
[17:14] <leau2001> hi all, anybody knows where i can found tightvnc 1.3.9 package for ubuntu ?
[17:14] <captainm> screamfd, the command is sudo apt-get remove [name]
[17:15] <unop_> bluefox83, is that what you want? or do you want to convert other types to pdf? if so, what types are they?
[17:15] <bluefox83> unop_, i have a financial aid form to fill out, it's already pdf
[17:15] <screamfd> ok thx captainm
[17:15] <mkz> DRebellion: interesting prospect.  It's not something I've done before, but then I hadn't forwarded X over ssh before either (if indeed that's how you would refer to what I'm doing...)
[17:15] <unop_> bluefox83, right, i see -- have you tried acroread?
[17:16] <unop_> bluefox83, or evince even? (not sure it does that tho)
[17:16] <hackeron> nDuff: hmm, I'll check it out thanks
[17:16] <bluefox83> unop_, nevermind, i'll find another way to fill out the form...
[17:16] <bazhang> loa you might try getting a small signal booster or move closer to the hotspot; if those have an effect then it is some other spectrum interference
[17:16] <DRebellion> mkz, basically, by creating a tunnel, (eg from port 5555 on your computer to the ssh server) you can send data to localhost:5555 and it will get "tunneled" over the encrypted connection and reemerge as a connection from the ssh server
[17:17] <Noname_> i have a 22 in westinghouse lcd that goes up to 1680x1050 but the highest ubuntu will let me set it is 1400x1050 any ideas on how i can fix this
[17:17] <hackeron> nDuff: ehh. can you be more specific? - Gstreamer is a framework for accessing media -- exactly what do I do to go from microphone to rtp or something similar?
[17:17] <napalmfred> i am having trouble installing Ubuntu 8.04 - the Hardy Heron. it always freezes up
[17:18] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 please napalmfred
[17:18] <napalmfred> ty
[17:18] <sipior> Noname_: this is a known issue, unfortunately i don't have the xorg.conf for my 1680x1050 setup to hand. i'm quite sure there is a solution posted on the ubuntu forums, however.
[17:18] <mkz> DRebellion: I will do some more research on this.  question: does it necessitate that I make configuration changes to my router?  As it is I have enabled port forwarding of port 22 to my server...
[17:18] <screamfd> how became afer the mount the cd return?
[17:19] <DRebellion> mkz, nope
[17:19] <GillaGal> captainm:  I got my terms back.... added a few things to the xorg conf.....  still no window borders tho, tried emerald --replace.
[17:19] <mkz> DRebellion: nice.
[17:19] <Noname_> i've tried looking i shall try again thank you
[17:19] <bazhang> Noname_: does that card support it?
[17:19] <mkz> DRebellion: would you happen to have a link to a reliable resouce I might use?
[17:19] <screamfd> *Eject
[17:19] <DRebellion> mkz, just search google for ssh tunneling
[17:20] <bastid_raZor> Noname_; possibly run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and during that you'll have the options of selecting more resolutions
[17:20] <mkz> DRebellion: very well. Thanks.
[17:21] <Noname_> i'll try that now
[17:21] <captainm> GillaGal, what's the terminal output when you type emerald --replace?
[17:21] <Noname_> should i autodetect hardware
[17:21] <tomtv> hi all i have pluged in the tv out cables how do i have picture from  pc into tv i have ubuntu
[17:21] <bastid_raZor> Noname_; after you run that you'll have to restart X.
[17:22] <Noname_> ok
[17:22] <GillaGal> captainm:  nothing.... it just sits there.
[17:22] <Noname_> should i autodetect hardware
[17:23] <captainm> GillaGal, hmm, I'm out of ideas. You could try reinstalling emerald altogether.
[17:23] <bastid_raZor> Noname_; the defaults and autodetection are the safest methods
[17:23] <GillaGal> captainm:  ok thanks
[17:23] <LinuxMercedes> ikonia: alright, I set my smtp sever to smtp.att.yahoo.com, but I'm still not getting mail
[17:23] <tomtv> hi all i have pluged in the tv out cables how do i have picture from  pc into tv i have ubuntu do i need nvdia drivers
[17:24] <Noname_> no x server known for video hardware
[17:24] <tomtv> hello anyone in the room
[17:24] <Toznoshio> I'm having problems with my CUPS subsystem: I can print flawlessly from AbiWord, but not from KWord or from OpenOffice Writer - what could be wrong?
[17:24] <Noname_> i have a nvidia 7600gs agp
[17:24] <bastid_raZor> Noname_; do you have the nvidia drivers?
[17:25] <tomtv> i have nvidia geforce 6800 generic
[17:25] <Noname_> yeah
[17:25] <tomtv> where do i nstall drivers
[17:25] <mkz> DRebellion: wow, ssh tunneling is a scream! :)
[17:26] <bastid_raZor> Noname_; when it asked for which driver to use did you select nv or nvidia?
[17:26] <DRebellion> mkz, ;)
[17:26] <Noname_> this xserver-xorg config is asking alot of questions i'm on video card's bus identifier
[17:26] <mefodiy> HELLO
[17:26] <Noname_> nvidia
[17:26] <tomtv> how do i isntall nvidia drivers for nvidiga geforce 6800
[17:26] <bastid_raZor> Noname_; the defaults for that are fine. it detects where your card is..
[17:27] <bastid_raZor> tomtv; sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new
[17:27] <gamma-k> captainm: it did not seem to solve my problem. I only added one user after myself. We both have windows system folders on desktop. The other user does not have root priviledges. Still he is able to delete them.
[17:27] <tonyyarusso> !nvidia | tomtv
[17:27] <ubotu> tomtv: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[17:27] <mefodiy> LIST
[17:27] <mkz> DRebellion: I've started to play with tunneling http, so the next question is: can I tunnel vnc?
[17:27] <cdc> I found a nifty icon set and have moved the icon folder to the following directory /usr/share/icons - how do I enable the icons automatically? gconf-editor?
[17:27] <DRebellion> mkz, you can tunnel anything
[17:27] <DRebellion> !vnc | mkz
[17:27] <ubotu> mkz: VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[17:27] <tomtv> nvidia-glx-new is already the newest version.
[17:27] <tomtv> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 24 not upgraded
[17:27] <mefodiy> list
[17:28] <tomtv> i have allready those now how can i have picture from pc to tv
[17:28] <bastid_raZor> tomtv; then you have the nvidia drivers.
[17:28] <fnd> hi - I suddenly don't have sounds anymore (Gutsy) - it used to work fine until ... well, this morning? yesterday? can't remember having changed anything
[17:28] <tomtv> but i dont see picture from pc on tv
[17:28] <sipior> Noname_: hey, do you have "nvidia-settings" installed? does it allow you to select the resolution there?
[17:28] <bastid_raZor> tomtv; how is the tv connected? s-video?
[17:29] <tomtv> i have 3 cables one is black and 2 are white and red
[17:29] <Guest9003> sup guyz, is the dlink dwl520+ supported without me having to get driverS?
[17:29] <Jaffarkelshac> how come the sound recorded in ubuntu is soooo low
[17:29] <tomtv> the black one is plugged into pc and with scart on tv
[17:29] <Noname_> yes and no
[17:29] <Jaffarkelshac> i have every thing ip
[17:29] <Jaffarkelshac> up*
[17:29] <Noname_> i finished should i restart x
[17:29] <screamfd> how that with unmount? CD Driver will cd not leaved
[17:30] <Jaffarkelshac> does anyone get decent sound from recordmydesktop
[17:30] <bastid_raZor> Noname_; yes,
[17:30] <bastid_raZor> sipior; that was my next step after X restart
[17:30] <Ttech> X boom
[17:30] <Ttech> :/
[17:30] <Noname_> is there a command to just restart x
[17:30] <LadyNikon> Any wireless gurus wanna try to help me figure out why ubuntu thinks my schools wireless is using wep encryption when it isnt?
[17:31] <bastid_raZor> Noname_; you could hit ctrl alt backspace
[17:31] <tonyyarusso> Noname_: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restar
[17:31] <tonyyarusso> t
[17:31] <erUSUL> Noname_: Crtl + Alt + backspace
[17:31] <LinuxMercedes> ikonia: I'm guessing that it's because AT&T's smtp sever is secured, and I don't think my software supports secured SMTP
[17:31] <fnd> re sound issue: I do hear the startup sound (drums), but after that nothing
[17:32] <fnd> I've checked volume control
[17:32] <captainm> gamma-k, set the owner to "nobody", all the other options to "none" an click on aply settings to content of the folder (or something like that). You'll still be able to see the drive, just not access it.
[17:33] <LadyNikon> Here is a post of the problem.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=549320
[17:33] <poseidon> Is there a program to detect what type of reuter I am connected to?
[17:33] <Noname_> that was a no go
[17:33] <genuser> what is the syntax for updating packages?
[17:34] <fnd> genuser: sudo apt-get update
[17:34] <jpatrick> poseidon: looking at the router box and google doesn't help?
[17:34] <genuser> fnd: thanks
[17:34] <AnthraxDream> Is there anything I need to download for wireless internet on ubuntu?
[17:34] <fnd> re sound issue: now it seems to work again - I didn't change anything
[17:34] <fnd> AnthraxDream: depends on your hardware
[17:34] <tonyyarusso> AnthraxDream: depends on your card and availability of drivers.  Mine works out of the box.
[17:34] <tomtv> hi all if i use paste bin and pastbin my xorg.con can u help me make changes there so i can have tv out
[17:34] <poseidon> jpatrick, I am erm... unable to see the rueter
[17:34] <AnthraxDream> Any faqs or anything?
[17:34] <tonyyarusso> !wifi | AnthraxDream
[17:34] <ubotu> AnthraxDream: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[17:35] <Jeruvy> hmm, I cannot seem to figure out how to get 'users' permissions set for samba, anyone?
[17:35] <jpatrick> poseidon: aha, no idea then...
[17:35] <tomtv> http://www.pastebin.ca/956915    can anyone help me with tv out here is my xorg conf file
[17:35] <jpatrick> poseidon: ask someone who can to tell you?
[17:36] <tparcina> hi channel!
[17:36] <tomtv> http://www.pastebin.ca/956915    can anyone help me with tv out here is my xorg conf file
[17:36] <tparcina> from what repository can I download TrueCrypt package?
[17:37] <hischild> tparcina, you cannot. you have to download it from their website afaik.
[17:37] <pushpop> Is there a memory limitation that ubuntu 7.10 has? I have 4GB of memory installed and it only sees 3.5 GB on post it sees all 4gb?
[17:37] <tparcina> hischild: :( ok, thank you
[17:37] <DRebellion> pushpop, this is a 32bit processor limitation
[17:37] <LinuxMercedes> pushpop: You need to have a 64-bit CPU to do that
[17:38] <hischild> tparcina, it is perfectly safe to use the .deb they provide on their website.
[17:38] <cpu> me 64 bit ? :D
[17:38] <cpu> hhhhhhh
[17:38] <pushpop> DRebellion technically I'm running a amd 4400+ which is 64bit no?
[17:38] <LinuxMercedes> pushpop: but you can get x8_64 linux distros
[17:38] <tparcina> hischild: ok, thank you :)
[17:38] <DRebellion> pushpop, no idea if an amd 4400+ is 64bit
[17:38] <Toznoshio> I'm having problems with my CUPS subsystem: I can print flawlessly from AbiWord, but not from KWord or from OpenOffice Writer - what could be wrong?
[17:38] <tomtv> http://www.pastebin.ca/956915    can anyone help me with tv out here is my xorg conf file
[17:38] <hischild> pushpop, your OS has to be 64bit. Whether you can run that depends on your CPU if it can support 64bit
[17:38] <Blackthorn> how do you rmdir a directory that is not empty?
[17:38] <LinuxMercedes> pushpop: if you have a 64 bit cpu, you also need a 64bit linux distro
[17:39] <cpu> yea its 64 bit the amd 4400+ and i think its x2
[17:39] <floyd> hello... quick question... how can i install verdana font on ubuntu?
[17:39] <hischild> Black, rm -r /dir
[17:39] <hischild> Blackthorn, ^
[17:39] <pushpop> got cha thx
[17:39] <captainm> gamma-k, It just occurred to me that we've been doing this the hard way :P you can also edit /etc/fstab so linux doesn't mount the drives automaticly
[17:39] <Gearparts> floyd: sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts
[17:39] <floyd> tnx Gearparts
[17:39] <cpu> pushpop: you can run 32 bit distro and 64 bit distro ... you have to chose which is better or fine for you..
[17:39] <tomtv> http://www.pastebin.ca/956915    can anyone help me with tv out here is my xorg conf file
[17:40] <Gearparts> what tv card you have tomtv?
[17:40] <hischild> Blackthorn, do not use in combination with sudo to avoid bad situations (removing root is bad and happens fast, it's just a space) btu you can use rm -r /folder/to/remove
[17:40] <cpu> so i think using 64 bit os is better and faseter enven more its moe effecent
[17:40] <tomtv> no i want to have picture from pc to tv
[17:40] <Gearparts> aa
[17:40] <Gearparts> hm
[17:40] <tomtv> i have plugged in the cables
[17:40] <Gearparts> nvidia-settings tool
[17:40] <mkz> DRebellion: just one more reason I freaking love linux! :)
[17:40] <amenado> Toznoshio-> is your settings on OpenOffice okay?
[17:41] <tomtv> where is that
[17:41] <lmg> ping localhost (127.0.0.1) -> permission denied - how can I fix this?
[17:41] <Gearparts> type in terminal
[17:41] <Gearparts> nvidia-settings
[17:41] <Toznoshio> amenado, I think so
[17:41] <amenado> lmg-> do you have firewall on?
[17:41] <captainm> gamma-k, in a terminal type gksu gedit /etc/fstab and find the windows partitions. Change the options "auto" to "noauto" and "user" to "nouser"
[17:41] <lmg> amenado: I have firestarter installed, but closed it. (etc/init.d/firestarter stop)
[17:41] <amenado> Toznoshio-> what shows up under File->Printer Settings?
[17:41] <tomtv> yes i have a screen now geaparts
[17:42] <tomtv> what to do now there to choosetv/0
[17:42] <Gearparts> hm
[17:42] <amenado> lmg verify please with  sudo iptables -n -vL  and paste it in pastebin
[17:42] <keshavkhera> can anybody help me with ATI radeon xpress 200 graphic card with compiz
[17:42] <Gearparts> go x server display configuration
[17:43] <hwilde> !ati | keshavkhera
[17:43] <ubotu> keshavkhera: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[17:43] <hwilde> !compiz | keshavkhera
[17:43] <ubotu> keshavkhera: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[17:43] <Uatec> keshavkhera, try saying what is actually wrong, like error messages or weird behaviors
[17:43] <lmg> amenado: http://pastebin.com/d5eba8267
[17:43] <tomtv> i see x server correction and x server xvideo settings
[17:44] <Gearparts> hm
[17:44] <njenkin2> I have a question for anybody who is an open source advocate/geek.
[17:44] <tomtv> ok i see it now
[17:44] <tomtv> x server display configuration
[17:44] <Gearparts> yes
[17:44] <Gearparts> there are monitor
[17:44] <amenado> lmg as you can see, you have rules, dont know which one prevents you from pinging, also you have a DROP default policies -- those will stop you cold, even if you dont have rules
[17:44] <tomtv> tv-0 disables i see screen
[17:44] <hischild> njenkin2, you'll have to take that question into offtopoc if it isn't related to support.
[17:44] <njenkin2> Where would I look to find out the standings of the different Presidential candidates on Open Source software?
[17:44] <keshavkhera> Uatec, first of all on enabling effects on with ATI i get that effects cud not be enabled then when i install the drivers which are not open source, i get a grey screen on on bootup which is stagnant
[17:44] <Gearparts> enable it
[17:44] <njenkin2> Ok
[17:44] <Gearparts> if it's possible
[17:44] <lmg> amenado: http://pastebin.com/d5f6c3110 after stopping firestarter
[17:45] <njenkin2> I will
[17:45] <tomtv> how to enable it
[17:45] <gamma-k> captainm: it doesn't seem to let me change anything. It immediately restores the owner back to 'root'. As well are the folder priviledges restored before i can apply them.
[17:45] <Gearparts> i dont know
[17:45] <Uatec> keshavkhera, do you get the X mouse cursor with the grey screen?
[17:45] <floyd> Gearparts: at installation it told me to also install x-ttcidfont-conf if i want to use them for X ... should i?
[17:45] <lmg> amenado: how can I change the default policy to 'allow' ?
[17:45] <tomtv> i see option twinview
[17:45] <Gearparts> yes i think
[17:45] <amenado> lmg your default now shows as ACCEPT
[17:46] <keshavkhera> Uatec, no cursor, just a plain screen, nothing else
[17:46] <amenado> lmg but you have not verified it for me, again type same command after you stopped firestarter..
[17:46] <captainm> gamma-k, We've been trying to do this the hard way. My bad! It's better to tell Linux not to mount the drives on startup and make sure users can't mount the drives. In a terminal type gksu gedit /etc/fstab and find the windows partitions. Change the options "auto" to "noauto" and "user" to "nouser"
[17:46] <lmg> amenado: that was the output of the command after stopping firestarter.
[17:46]  * co_cuex pagi
[17:46] <amenado> lmg show me like you did in the previous post, sudo iptables -n -vL
[17:46] <tomtv> now i see tv-0 1024x768   on that screen when it was before tv disable but i dont see picture on tv
[17:47]  * co_cuex blh gabung
[17:47] <zombie_monkey> how can I safely remove a bluetooth dongle?
[17:47] <jordo2323>  I am running VMware on Ubuntu 7.10.  It installed fine. I am trying to connect to the host with another machine, each time getting bad password/login failures. I have looked in /var/log/auth.log but see nothing relevant (at least nothing jumps out at me). Any ideas?
[17:47] <Gearparts> hm
[17:47] <HorizonXP> hey, in evolution, how do I send contacts via bluetooth to my phone?
[17:47] <lmg> amenado: same output with `sudo iptables -n -vL` prefixed.
[17:47] <DRebellion> zombie_monkey, eject it?
[17:47] <Gearparts> tomtv, try reboot :D?
[17:47] <amenado> lmg show including the command when you paste
[17:47] <HorizonXP> my phone is connected to my pc via ubuntu's bluetooth manager
[17:47] <zombie_monkey> HorizonXP: what Ubuntu bluetooth manager?
[17:47] <lmg> amenado: http://pastebin.com/d602f921f
[17:48] <zombie_monkey> HorizonXP: that's what I'm looking for
[17:48] <HorizonXP> zombie_monkey: whatever that little icon is that pops up when bluetooth is started
[17:48] <HorizonXP> zombie_monkey: no idea, it just works on my install; I think it might be bluez-utils or something
[17:48] <amenado> lmg, okay now show me what you got in /etc/hosts file
[17:48] <xtremely_> hi
[17:48] <LadyNikon> is there a way to turn off encryption via the command line?
[17:48] <xtremely_> i got a silly problem
[17:49] <cpu> ..
[17:49] <xtremely_> if a want to watch a dvd i only hear the background sound and no voices
[17:49] <amenado> LadyNikon-> encryption of which link? are you transmitting something to another host?
[17:49] <gamma-k> captainm: Ok! I'll just annoy you a little more: Is it possible to leave the drives visible and accessible to me only, not the other users? If it is not fairly easy, please don't bother, I'm just a beginner :)
[17:50] <Jeruvy> xtremely_: sounds like your audio output doesn't match your hardware.  Try changing to 'stereo'.
[17:50] <LadyNikon> amenado: to make a long story short.. my laptop thinks my schools wifi is wep encrypted.
[17:50] <bee> Is there a way to get a newer version of Freetds?
[17:50] <LadyNikon> amenado: its not.
[17:50] <bee> Like testing repositories?
[17:50] <lmg> amenado: http://pastebin.com/d3e9f8b4d
[17:50] <xtremely_> jeruvz: i have stereo on
[17:50] <amenado> LadyNikon-> try to associate without a wep/wpa/wpa2 key?
[17:50] <Jeruvy> xtremely_: make sure your media is matching
[17:51] <shem> anyone:  has anyone had trouble getting signatures to work in Evolution mail?  I put it in and save it and it doesnt show up on emails
[17:51] <xtremely_> how matching?
[17:51] <lmg> amenado: ping localhost resolves to 127.0.0.1 fine.
[17:51] <_moro_bana_> is there a linux version on borland c++ builder
[17:51] <captainm> gamma-k, No problem! You could always mount them when you need them but that's a bit of a hassle. So we're back at setting the permisions again :P. Give me a sec and I'll try to find an easy way
[17:51] <amenado> lmg i kind of forgot already what your ping issue was...what was it?
[17:51] <_moro_bana_> of*
[17:51] <Jeruvy> xtremely_: for example, if your media is DTS, then stereo isn't going to work.
[17:52] <DRebellion> _moro_bana_, c++ compiler? why not use g++?
[17:52] <xtremely_> Jeruvy: i can watch this dvds at my archlinux pc without any problems
[17:52] <lmg> amenado: it was "permission denied", wich vanished when I turned off firestarter. now it simply times out. http://pastebin.com/d268cef1a
[17:52] <Jeruvy> xtremely_: I can't help you there
[17:53] <xtremely_> Jeruvy: ok i try reinstalling the codecs thx
[17:53] <Jeruvy> xtremely_: chances are you're using a dolby or DTS audio type and your hardware doesn't support it (or the media plater doesn't).
[17:53] <_moro_bana_> DRebellion: that i use, but need to use something like borland ,have to make a program with a gui
[17:54] <amenado> lmg try to have your entry in hosts  to be like 127.0.0.1 localhost.myhome.com localhost Ubuntu710gutsy
[17:54] <amenado> lmg a full domain..dont know if it will make a difference
[17:54] <DRebellion> _moro_bana_, a windows gui?
[17:54] <tomtvout> hi i want to have picture from pc to tv i plugged in the cables now i am in here nvidia-settings what to do there
[17:54] <_moro_bana_> DRebellion: i mean on borland, its already done for the programmer, just have to fill in the code
[17:54] <lmg> amenado: didn't change anything
[17:55] <xtremely_> Jeruvy: my soundcard is a "VIA 8235"
[17:55] <xtremely_> on board
[17:55] <_moro_bana_> DRebellion: linux gui ,windows gui, does it make a diff?
[17:55] <amenado> lmg how about just ping localhost  ?
[17:55] <rinaldi_> LadyNikon: what encryption is it using?
[17:55] <tomtvout> hi i want to have picture from pc to tv i plugged in the cables now i am in here nvidia-settings what to do there i see tv - 0 disables
[17:55] <lmg> amenado: /etc/hosts on a different box looks just like the one I pasted. `ping localhost` times out.
[17:56] <amenado> lmg  try to use the full path..   /bin/ping localhost
[17:56] <lmg> amenado: times out.
[17:56] <amenado> lmg and what is the os on a different box you are referring to?
[17:56] <beex> can I have beagle/tracker search within one folder, recursively?
[17:56] <lmg> amenado: ubuntu gutsy. like this one.
[17:56] <_moro_bana_> DRebellion:in school we work on windows but i have ubuntu on my box, when it comes to times like these i suffer, have you ever used borland builder
[17:57] <amenado> lmg thats odd.
[17:57] <beex> it seems like I should be able to, but neither the file search within nautilus, or the tracker tool does this
[17:57] <Jeruvy> lmg is the nic up? is the localhost nic up?
[17:57] <DRebellion> _moro_bana_, nope. There are linux IDEs you can use that have interface builders
[17:57] <Piero_Scaruffi> _moro_bana_:  end your suffering run windows
[17:57] <amenado> lmg how many nics does your system have?  paste ifconfig results please
[17:57] <Piero_Scaruffi> dual boot ftw
[17:57] <Piero_Scaruffi> D:
[17:58] <lmg> amenado: eth0 + lo
[17:58] <_moro_bana_> DRebellion: can you please...
[17:58] <BloodFeastIsland> how do i register here? before i get kicked out of this channel
[17:58] <beex> dual boot is fail
[17:58] <beex> go with qemu
[17:58] <lmg> amenado: http://pastebin.com/d804ec35
[17:58] <beex> qemu is future
[17:58] <DRebellion> !register > BloodFeastIsland
[17:59] <jsoftw> Anyone got any ideas on speeding up ubuntu?
[17:59] <Jeruvy> jsoftw: a faster cpu works well
[17:59] <DRebellion> jsoftw, its already fast
[17:59] <jsoftw> Brilliant.
[17:59] <sorsis> BloodFeastIsland: i think that only registeration which is needed if any is to nickserv
[17:59] <amenado> lmg you are showing   64 bytes from localhost (127.0.0.1): icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.049 ms  <-- okay eh?
[17:59] <jhhdk> does anyone know if there is a sun java browser plugin for AMD 64, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java says there wasn't as of january last year, has there really not been any progress since?
[17:59] <_moro_bana_> DRebellion: can you please let me know of any .
[17:59] <LadyNikon> rinaldi_: the access point on campus does not use encryption.
[18:00] <ubuntu-user> hi, i`d like to get frontend in gnome for ntfs3g
[18:00] <LadyNikon> amenado: what do you mean?
[18:00] <DRebellion> _moro_bana_, try a google search. I can't remember any off the top of my head.
[18:00] <lmg> amenado: that's the "other" box :)
[18:00] <amenado> LadyNikon-> try to associate without a wep/wpa/wpa2 key?  what happens? associates or not?
[18:00] <Cew27> hey can anyone help me here, i installed photoshop and to use the clone tool i must press alt and click but when i do this it just moves the window, is there anyway i can change this
[18:00] <BloodFeastIsland> ok i'm registered
[18:00] <_moro_bana_> DRebellion: will do . thanks
[18:00] <LadyNikon> amenado: sorry i had to help a client.  No I am just trying to connect to the internet
[18:00] <BloodFeastIsland> thanks alot ubotu
[18:01] <amenado> lmg how many nics does your system have?  paste ifconfig results please for the one you are having issues with
[18:01] <DRebellion> BloodFeastIsland, ubotu is a robot
[18:01] <apollo13> hi, I installed ubuntu 8.04 and I am wondering why the Desktop is showing ~ instead of ~/Desktop; any ideas?
[18:01] <BloodFeastIsland> now does anybody know what this thing in between the two mouse buttons are on a sony vaio notebook
[18:01] <DRebellion> apollo13, /join #ubuntu+1
[18:01] <LadyNikon> amenado: I did not select a wep encryption when i set it up
[18:01] <BloodFeastIsland> lmao drebellion, he's a good bot
[18:01] <lmg> amenado: ifconfig -> http://pastebin.com/d6bf59d12
[18:01] <amenado> LadyNikon-> try to re-associate now..do you get to connect?
[18:01] <apollo13> DRebellion: sry
[18:01] <LadyNikon> amenado: nope.
[18:01] <LadyNikon> amenado: did that many times
[18:02] <LadyNikon> amenado: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=549320
[18:02] <Gearparts> anyone know why my americas army network connection won't work?
[18:02] <SuperSayjin> hey every 1
[18:02] <poseidon> Is there a place you can go to download nice themes for ubuntu?
[18:02] <BloodFeastIsland> hey supersayjin
[18:02] <Piero_Scaruffi> Gearpart bin laden
[18:02] <LadyNikon> Gearparts: you need to be more specific with your problem.
[18:02] <LjL> !themes | poseidon
[18:02] <DRebellion> !themes > poseidon
[18:02] <ubotu> poseidon: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[18:02] <BloodFeastIsland> oh yeah....what exactly is unbutu?
[18:03] <LjL> Piero_Scaruffi: excuse me?
[18:03] <sorsis> Gearparts: i thought that amiracas armys linux version is not anymore updated
[18:03] <incorrect> org
[18:03] <poseidon> !themes
[18:03] <BloodFeastIsland> what's it for i mean
[18:03] <incorrect> doh
[18:03] <Piero_Scaruffi> humor LjL
[18:03] <Gearparts> :(
[18:03] <SuperSayjin> im using linux and i downloaded a tar file how ever wen i use the tar command to extract it it says no such file or directory
[18:03] <amenado> lmg everything seems to look in order...am perplexed why you cant even ping your localhost, try pinging 127.0.0.1 ?
[18:03] <Piero_Scaruffi> D:
[18:03] <lmg> amenado: same
[18:03] <LjL> Piero_Scaruffi, this channel is for support, not humor
[18:03] <Cew27> hey can anyone help me here, i installed photoshop and to use the clone tool i must press alt and click but when i do this it just moves the window, is there anyway i can change this
[18:03] <Piero_Scaruffi> true LjL
[18:03] <Piero_Scaruffi> sorry
[18:03] <sorsis> Gearparts: guy who updated the version got a real job so he didn't have any time anymore
[18:03] <Piero_Scaruffi> i apologize
[18:03] <DRebellion> SuperSayjin, cd /path/to/directory && tar xvf file.tar
[18:03] <Gearparts> sorsis: ok
[18:04] <amenado> lmg id try to reboot, and lets see if it corrects it
[18:04] <[T]an1> i am trying to run google earth on ubuntu 7.10 ati video card fglrx drivers  aticonfig --dtop=horizontal --overlay-on=1. everything in google earth is shifted left and partially out of view. anyone else know how to correct this?"
[18:04] <SuperSayjin> yea i did that and its come up with cannot open cannot find file or directory
[18:05] <LadyNikon> BloodFeastIsland: http://www.ubuntu.com/
[18:06]  * LadyNikon sighs
[18:06] <Jeruvy> SuperSayjin: then you're lookin in the wrong path.  First determine where the archive is.
[18:06] <rahmen> If I want Direct rendering help for my radeon card, is it this channel or #ati that I should go to?
[18:06] <screamfd> when a hdd empty is , is the than hung?
[18:06] <amenado> LadyNikon-> umm do you know the exact essid of those unencrypted ones (clear)  and the encrypted ones? try to associate to the one on the clear
[18:06] <LadyNikon> rahmen: i would probably goto the ati channel
[18:06] <hazard5150> Ok. I need another idea. It turns out that even if I try formatting in ext3 instead of reiserfs it hangs at the same point.
[18:06] <lmg> amenado: unfortunatly, rebooting is not an option.
[18:06] <LadyNikon> amenado: the essids are all the same
[18:06] <jhhdk> trying medialess install of ubuntu32 instead of ubuntu64(want sun java plugin in firefox), can i preverve my data if i dont repartition disk or will partition be formatted regardless?
[18:06] <SuperSayjin> ive done mkdir
[18:06] <yaguito> #bookz
[18:06] <LadyNikon> amenado: there shouldnt be any encryption
[18:06] <SuperSayjin> and chanded the directory to that path
[18:07] <BloodFeastIsland> hmmm
[18:07] <LadyNikon> amenado: and its only in linux or some other non windows device.
[18:07] <JanMain> help
[18:07] <GNUtoo> hello, gmailfs doesn't work in ubuntu gusty gibbon...is it normal or is it me?
[18:07] <LadyNikon> GNUtoo: define does not work
[18:08] <JanMain> Does anyone know how i change ownership on my hard drives?
[18:08] <SuperSayjin> DETAILED LINUX INSTALLATION INSTRUCTIONS
[18:08] <SuperSayjin> We are in the process of making an installer to make this process much easier. For now, here are detailed instructions to setup the SMP client.
[18:08] <SuperSayjin> 1) Go to Terminal. Depending of your desktop engine (KDE, GNOME, ...) the Terminal application can be at different places, but you'll find it. GNOME has it at "Applications->Accessories->Terminal". Open Terminal.
[18:08] <SuperSayjin> 2) In the Terminal window you should see a prompt that looks something like this:
[18:08] <SuperSayjin> yourusername@yourcomputername ~ $
[18:08] <SuperSayjin> 3) To get the SMP FAH client going type in following commands:
[18:08] <FloodBot2> SuperSayjin: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:08] <SuperSayjin> mkdir -p ~/folding/FAH
[18:08] <LadyNikon> SuperSayjin: stop.
[18:08] <sorsis> GNUtoo: gmailfs, is typo or do you mees some app which has extension fs?
[18:08] <GNUtoo> LadyNikon, http error 400: bad request
[18:08] <screamfd> how on hung a hddwith Terminal or prog, when termina please a example command
[18:08] <SuperSayjin> i didnt mean to do that >.>
[18:09]  * SuperSayjin appolagises
[18:09] <LadyNikon> SuperSayjin: i kinda figured that after i saw that you posted heh
[18:09] <GNUtoo> sorsis, gmailfs is a fuse filesystem for storing data in gmail
[18:10] <amenado> LadyNikon-> two of the AP you pasted shows encrypted:on  so two are encrypted..only one is not
[18:10] <DarKnesS_WolF> can anyone points me to a howto get the tv-tuner in All-In-Wounder-128Pro to work with Ubuntu ?
[18:10] <SuperSayjin> well if u read that lot u can see the commands i entered to make to dir change its path and extact the file but as i said it wont do that
[18:10] <tim> Hi
[18:10] <tim> Canu plz help me
[18:10] <tim> The drivers for Radeon 2600 xt AGP dont work
[18:11] <LadyNikon> amenado: its not encrypted. thats the problem.
[18:11] <amenado> LadyNikon-> btw, why is the date of your posting dated Sept 13 2007? this is not current?
[18:11] <LadyNikon> amenado: it started then.  I have been working on it since then
[18:11] <sorsis> GNUtoo: haven't used. sorry.
[18:11] <LadyNikon> amenado: sept is when it i noticed the problem.
[18:11] <beex> can I have beagle/tracker search within one folder, recursively?
[18:12] <amenado> LadyNikon-> well per your iwlist scan results, it does show two are encrypted and one is not,  what is it today for comparison?
[18:12] <amenado> lmg  if you cant reboot, try  /etc/init.d/networking restart   and lets see if it corrects it
[18:13] <tim>  Hi the drivers for radeon 2600xt do not work ? canu  help me plz
[18:13] <lmg> amenado: that's the reason for not being able to reboot. mustn't loose open connections.
[18:13] <pro-rsoft> Hi all, whats the default bittorrent client in ubuntu?
[18:13] <amenado> lmg is this a remote location?
[18:14] <lmg> amenado: no.
[18:14] <tim> osed the connection)
 amenado: that's the reason for not being able to reboot. mustn't loose open connections
[18:14] <LadyNikon> amenado: i know what iwlist says which is the weird part.. because I work here on campus.. and no for a fact there is no encryption on the waps i am trying to connect too.
[18:14] <yacc> Just wondering, is there a way to install Ubuntu onto a headless box?
[18:14] <amenado> lmg then why cant you not restart it? you can get in front an restart if you must noh?
[18:15] <hazard5150> yacc: You can't give it a head for a moment to get SSH running?
[18:15] <LadyNikon> amenado: gimmie a sec on the rest
[18:15] <Lnxmad> Hello there everyone
[18:15] <lmg> amenado: it has connections open to remote locations, that mustn't be closed.
[18:15] <yacc> hazard5150: nope, I don't own any monitor/lcd/...
[18:16] <Lnxmad> I was wondering if anyone is on 8.04
[18:16] <yacc> hazard5150: the best, assuming that I can get it to work would be my plasma TV, that knows HDMI, OTOH, the PC involved is 4-5 yrs old.
[18:16] <DRebellion> Lnxmad, #ubuntu+1
[18:16] <Lnxmad> thx
[18:16] <LadyNikon> amenado: they all say on now
[18:16] <hazard5150> yacc: Only other thing I could suggest then would be to get detailed steps on an getting SSH running, and then hope you don't typo.
[18:16] <hazard5150> yacc: Your TV doesn't have a VGA in?
[18:16] <amenado> lmg-> if one of your nics go bad, and you can not repair it online.. you haft to reboot to replace it..no other way i know of unless its one of those premium hot swappable systems
[18:16] <yacc> hazard5150: nope, just HDMI ;(
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[18:16] <ubuntunoob> get a hdmi to vga adapter
[18:18] <K1rb> Hey
[18:18] <K1rb> I have a question
[18:18] <DRebellion> yacc, borrow a monitor from a friend?
[18:18] <K1rb> need quick help please.
[18:18] <amenado> LadyNikon-> i somehow tend to believe they are really on....and what does a windows clients detects? compare the parameters..same?
[18:18] <K1rb> When ne1 has a chance
[18:18] <DRebellion> !ask | K1rb
[18:18] <ubotu> K1rb: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[18:18] <macogw> LadyNikon: wanna borrow my wifi detector?
[18:18] <K1rb> How do I compress a folder as .zip, but have it recognized as a Unix Executable File?
[18:18] <yacc> DRebellion: well, I'd be happy enough, a CD/DVD image that does DHCP and enables ssh, guess that should be enough, to get a debootstrap going.
[18:18] <macogw> K1rb: um you dont
[18:18] <yacc> K1rb: you mean have it as a selfextracting zip?
[18:19] <macogw> K1rb: unless you mean just make it have executable mode, with chmod +x
[18:19] <K1rb> I heard that doing chmod +x in terminal will do it, but it just adds an mv. as a prefix
[18:19] <LadyNikon> amenado: there is no wep on the windows side.. you just input the essid and connect.
[18:19] <yacc> K1rb: if you can assume that unzip is installed on all targets, it's simple: write a script, and append the zip.
[18:19] <turbough> K1rb: i think the 7z linux port makes self extracting files
[18:19] <yacc> K1rb: zip files have the interesting property that you can append them to any file => they are read from the tail.
[18:19] <mangojambo> do someone here use ktoon ?
[18:19] <LadyNikon> amenado: i have talked to the network admin .. its a cisco router.. he is standing by his decision that its a client problem not the web problem.
[18:20] <LadyNikon> s/wep/wap problem
[18:20] <amenado> LadyNikon-> what am asking is, can you do a scan on the windows? then compare the parameters the scan presents to you to the one from ubuntu, same mac addresses? etc...
[18:20] <turbough> K1rb: it's just kind weird because every linux distro comes with tar, gzip, and bzip2
[18:20] <stepz> hi, I need help setting the display resolution to 1366x768 with the nvidia restricted driver when the displays EDID seems to report wrong resolutions
[18:20] <LadyNikon> amenado: i dont know the command on windows to do the scan.. do you know it off hand.
[18:20] <K1rb> Yeah, I'm trying to recompress the folder as a .pk3 for a game, but no matter what I try the game won't read the .zip as it does the others
[18:20] <stepz> its currently at 1280x1024 which is stretched
[18:20] <LadyNikon> amenado: lemme boot into windows
[18:21] <rage_> can you guys help me with a thing, i cant get world of warcraft to work :/
[18:21] <amenado> LadyNikon-> typically the utilities that came with the wifi drivers have tools to scan...maybe its in the menu?
[18:21] <stepz> does anyone have any experience with forcing resolutions for the nvidia driver?
[18:21] <LadyNikon> amenado: ill take a look.
[18:21] <K1rb> I'm actually using OS X, but getting help here's better than asking anyone else. I'm dealing w/ common unix things anyhow
[18:21] <turbough> rage_:  it might work better if you installed osx or xp
[18:21] <LadyNikon> K1rb: i did it.. wasnt fun..
[18:21] <K1rb> LadyNikon, did what?
[18:22] <turbough> K1rb: osx comes with stuff that unarchives tar.gz files
[18:22] <tim> Hi the drivers for radeon 2600xt do not work ? canu  help me plz
[18:22] <rage_> turbough: thanks
[18:22] <LadyNikon> K1rb: me and kubuntu had a long talk about my monitor resolution.. I won.. but kinda.
[18:22] <turbough> rage_:  ;)
[18:22] <LadyNikon> lemme think
[18:22] <LadyNikon> !resolution
[18:22] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[18:22] <turbough> rage_: seriously what are you using?
[18:22] <rage_> ubuntu
[18:22] <turbough> K1rb: you can make something that people can double click on
[18:23] <amenado> K1rb-> what compression is .pk3?  is that compatible with zip gzip or among the common compressions in linux?
[18:23] <CDOG> Hello. I just installed firestarter firewall and noticed . I was connected to an ip in Tel Aviv Israel on port 18752. I had all applications closed. And do not know what process/programme is making that connection. becaue it appears blank on the firewall. Could this be a legitimate connection from a system process? What should i do?
[18:23] <turbough> K1rb: if you have a directory named "my_junk" then it's: tar zcvf my_junk/
[18:23] <bastid_raZor> amenado; pk3 is not a compressed file.. that sounds like a gaming pack file
[18:23] <amenado> CDOG-> just installed the firewall and you already got a hole?
[18:23] <turbough> rage_: are you using some sort of emulator to get it to run?
[18:24] <turbough> rage_: wow only supports xp and osx
[18:24] <CDOG> amenado, well i noticed that connection because i installed the firewall
[18:24] <amenado> bastid_raZor-> as you can tell, am not a gamer..hehe
[18:24] <K1rb> amenado .pk3 is a game file for urban terror, I decompressed it to add textures and things, now I can't get the game to use the file for some odd reason
[18:24] <K1rb> it's a .zip, yes.
[18:24] <turbough> HumanRage^: are you following a tutorial?
[18:24] <bastid_raZor> amenado; i've seen those files in some Quake directories is why i say that.
[18:24] <[T]an1> i am looking for a search command in apt-get. is there one? i am used to yum with fedora. I would type yum search 'package-name'. anything like that in apt-get?
[18:24] <amenado> CDOG-> how did you verify that? what command did you use?
[18:25] <HumanRage^> turbough: im using wine
[18:25] <turbough> HumanRage^ cedega says it's  works
[18:25] <pstangcjd> [T]an1: apt-cache search
[18:25] <CDOG> amenado, didnt use any command try to use netstat but couldnt see it. i just opened firestarter firewall and looked at the list of active connections and well there it is
[18:25] <amenado> K1rb-> so any .pk3 files you can just use unzip?  or jar ?
[18:25] <HumanRage^> turbough: and im following tutorials and still noting
[18:25] <[T]an1> pstangcjd: thank you
[18:25] <pstangcjd> yw
[18:26] <CDOG> amenado, i dont know how to block it either
[18:26] <DarKnesS_WolF> can anyone points me to a howto get the tv-tuner in All-In-Wounder-128Pro to work with Ubuntu ?
[18:26] <amenado> CDOG-> do you have a browser on? or maybe you are using a freenode server in israel?
[18:26] <bastid_raZor> amenado; K1rb :: negative ghostrider.. they are not a compressed files.
[18:27] <amenado> bastid_raZor-> then i dont think he can use a zip format to compress it then and make it work with the app
[18:27] <K1rb> yeah, I change the .pk3 to .zip and osx unarchives perfectly. I just archived it, and changed it back to .pk3... but it was still a .zip according to finder... the origional .pk3 is a Unix Executable File according to finder.
[18:27] <CDOG> amenado no, its on port 18752..and i had everything closed. the connection is still there but i think this firewall only has the option to allow policies and not deny connections
[18:27] <K1rb> I think this is the problem. I need to find a way to make finder think it's a Unix Exec w/ .pk3 suffix
[18:27] <amenado> CDOG paste in pastebin your  sudo iptables -n -vL  results
[18:28] <K1rb> but I don't know how to get it to reg. as a Unix Exec file... I added mv. before compression and again after and nothing changes... OS X still sees it as a .zip
[18:29] <bastid_raZor> amenado; upon researching and slapping myself in the face.. a pk3 /is/ a renamed zip file.. look at this :: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PK3
[18:29] <K1rb> So I was just wondering, what in the hell distiguishes a Unix Executable?
[18:29] <LadyNikon> amenado: I am gonna download netstumbler
[18:29] <peter-> I got a problem. Its called for urban terror sound problem. In terminal i get http://paste.arkku.net/index.php?id=107941580847e9442479d88 this.
[18:30] <amenado> K1rb-> i dont see pk3 in /usr/share/mime/magic  <-- shows supported magic numbers
[18:30] <K1rb> Yeah, I know what a .pk3 is... I decompressed it by renaming it .zip
[18:30] <ph00l1sh>   chat.us.freenode.net
[18:30] <K1rb> .zip = .pk3
[18:30] <ph00l1sh> uuups!
[18:30] <Pici`> ph00l1sh: You're already on freenode
[18:30] <ph00l1sh> lol
[18:30] <ph00l1sh> i know
[18:31] <amenado> LadyNikon-> what showed up when you did a scan on windows? compare the mac address of the AP you associated with, with the list from iwlist scan results
[18:31] <ph00l1sh> i wasnt paying attention xchat just connects automatically, cool!
[18:31] <LadyNikon> amenado: thts why i am installing net stumbler.
[18:31] <amenado> K1rb-> not per the /usr/share/mime/magic
[18:31] <LadyNikon> i deleted the toshiba crap long ago.
[18:31] <differentreality> hi... how can i use kill with wildcard ? sth like   kill 617*   so that I can kill at once all the processes with pid that begins with 617.. like 6170, 6171 etc.. ?
[18:31] <K1rb> amenado, what are you talking about?
[18:31] <amenado> LadyNikon-> oh okay.
[18:31] <LadyNikon> and i dont know what ipconfig command does all that
[18:31] <amenado> K1rb-> magic numbers? you dont know what magic numbers are?
[18:32] <K1rb> Amenado, no.
[18:32] <bastid_raZor> differentreality; if it is an app that is using those consecutive PID's you could use killall app_name
[18:32] <sridevi> i have problem in my ssl
[18:32] <jtravnick> hey i know this is off topic but can somebody tell me is a PATA drive the same as an IDE drive?
[18:32] <sridevi> how do i rectify that
[18:32] <peter-> I got a problem. Its called for urban terror sound problem. In terminal i get http://paste.arkku.net/index.php?id=107941580847e9442479d88 this.
[18:32] <Pici`> K1rb: Are you using Ubuntu or OSX here?
[18:32] <unop__> jtravnick, yes
[18:32] <amenado> K1rb-> ahh...its how the system knows what type of file it is.. elf, dos, zip, tar, etc
[18:32] <K1rb> Uh, whichever will get me the most help :/
[18:33] <Pici`> K1rb: ...
[18:33] <CDOG> amenado, im sorry what was the command again, iptables -
[18:33] <K1rb> SORRY!
[18:33] <K1rb> OS X
[18:33] <Pici`> K1rb: If you aren't running Ubuntu, we cannot help you.
[18:33] <K1rb> Yes you can
[18:33] <differentreality> bastid_raZor, if it's different apps ?
[18:33] <Pici`> K1rb: No, we cannot, and will not.
[18:33] <sridevi> ssh sorry
[18:33] <Peter-> Some one help me.
[18:33] <Peter-> I got a problem. Its called for urban terror sound problem. In terminal i get http://paste.arkku.net/index.php?id=107941580847e9442479d88 this.
[18:33] <jtravnick> unop__, k thanks got to get a new drive for this system and hadnt seen that kind before
[18:33] <Howbag> Hey guys, anyone know if a C++ IDE exists? im new to the thing so dont flame if it doesnt :P
[18:33] <amenado> CDOG paste in pastebin your  sudo iptables -n -vL  results
[18:33] <mbroman> My sound does not work with a lenovo thinkpad r61i series, any thoughts?
[18:34] <K1rb> Peter- is for Urban Terror too,
[18:34] <mbroman> they driver is there because i can access the sound controls
[18:34] <K1rb> All I want to know is HOW do you make a computer think that a .zip is a Unix Executable File?
[18:34] <unop__> jtravnick, if you are wondering why devices under ubuntu are now /dev/sd* now, its because the underlying library is the same
[18:34] <K1rb> That's completely Ubuntu related.
[18:34] <LjL> K1rb, just execute it (of course, it needs to have the +x attribute)
[18:34] <Pici`> K1rb: Not if you're running OSX and NOT ubuntu.
[18:35] <Peter-> Klrb: What?
[18:35] <unop__> K1rb, and that would be a crazy thing to do
[18:35] <amenado> K1rb-> i suggest you look up what a magic number is...
[18:35] <Peter-> What is for uban terror
[18:35] <K1rb> I already did chmod +x in terminal
[18:35] <kane77> why can't I download some packages?
[18:35] <jtravnick> unop__, do you know if i use seegates software to clone the old drive will it work with ubuntu or am i better of just manualy moving the files after a fresh install?
[18:35] <LjL> K1rb: then just execute it
[18:35] <Lnxmad> hey i was wondering if anyone can help me with an install proble
[18:35] <Lnxmad> m
[18:35] <bastid_raZor> differentreality; i'm not sure you can use a wildcard to kill pid's that way. if it is different apps then kill those apps too
[18:35] <Peter-> Klrb: Is there an channel for urban terror?
[18:35] <LadyNikon> amenado: this is weird.. the wep flag keeps popping on and off.
[18:35] <Jaymac> !ask | Lnxmad
[18:35] <z1o> linux, the you can sue misc bin formats
[18:35] <ubotu> Lnxmad: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[18:35] <unop__> jtravnick, you can use dd to clone a drive -- check the dd manpage
[18:35] <K1rb> LjL, how do I execute a .zip file!? This is my problem
[18:35] <z1o> same was as mono does it
[18:35] <Lnxmad> it gets to installing grub and freezes
[18:35] <Peter-> Kirl: Is there an channel for urban terror
[18:35] <pstangcjd> K1rb: your trying to make a .zip file executable?
[18:35] <LadyNikon> amenado: a few of the mac address are the same as in the file.
[18:36] <K1rb> Yes
[18:36] <Lnxmad> I have two drives
[18:36] <amenado> LadyNikon-> perhaps some other AP nearby is spoofing?
[18:36] <Peter-> K1rb: What the channel is
[18:36] <Lnxmad> one for os and one for data
[18:36] <pstangcjd> K1rb: doesn't make sense
[18:36] <LjL> K1rb, a .zip file cannot be executed, if it's a real zip file - quite obviously. because it's an archive, not a program.
[18:36] <mbroman> anyone know why the sound wouldnt work even if the drivers are installed?
[18:36] <jtravnick> unop__, oh didnt know we had our own cloneer thanks
[18:36] <z1o> zip file can be executed
[18:36] <BloodFeastIsland> they have a MAC channel K1rb
[18:36] <LjL> z1o: no.
[18:36] <CDOG_> amenado, here: http://pastebin.com/d6ee94b83
[18:36] <amenado> LadyNikon-> thats what i tell most, radio is a black magic, no guarantees.. wifi is a radio...
[18:36] <Peter-> I got a problem. Its called for urban terror sound problem. In terminal i get http://paste.arkku.net/index.php?id=107941580847e9442479d88 this.
[18:36] <unop__> jtravnick, this is the unix legacy, there's something for almost everything
[18:36] <z1o> LjL: yes look up misc bin formats
[18:36] <pstangcjd> z1o: no - it can be uncompressed
[18:36] <Pici`> K1rb: I suggest you ask in ##mac
[18:36] <os2mac> mbroman: do "aplay -l" and tell me the response
[18:37] <LadyNikon> amenado: bleh this is dumb.
[18:37] <differentreality> bastid_raZor, yeah with kill you cannot use wildcards... that's what I'm asking if there is some way with another command other than kill maybe with which wildcards can actually be used
[18:37] <mbroman> anyone know why the sound wouldnt work even if the drivers are installed?
[18:37] <z1o> mono does it with bytecode.. same thing
[18:37] <SliMM> hello
[18:37] <Pici`> !sound > mbroman (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[18:37] <LinuxMercedes> ok, so I'm using webmin to set up a server, and I'm trying to set up sendmail.
[18:37] <sridevi> please reply
[18:37] <jtravnick> unop__, so true i keep finding more and more resons why I like this over windows
[18:37] <os2mac> !sound > os2mac
[18:37] <LinuxMercedes> In the outgoing domains option, it says, "Apart from mail sent by local users, sendmail will only perform outgoing address mapping for mail from hosts or domains listed in the text box to the right. Thus for an outgoing address entry to work the domain in the from address must be included in this list."
[18:37] <LinuxMercedes> what does this mean?
[18:37] <LjL> z1o: well, in that sense perhaps - a bit stretched a definition of "executing". i'm not very sure that's what he means though
[18:37] <amenado> CDOG-> and it shows you dont have a rule implemented, so it is  open..
[18:37] <bastid_raZor> differentreality; that i'm aware of i don't know. possibly read the man pages for killall and kill
[18:37] <turbough> i think i have installed a new system using debootstrap and chroot but how can i be sure it will come up after the reboot? i can't test the sshd server or anything...
[18:38] <SliMM> how can i create a [w]lan to be able to share files and to play games (password protected)
[18:38] <BloodFeastIsland> oh yeah...is there a windows channel?
[18:38] <SliMM> ?
[18:38] <BloodFeastIsland> i can't ever find it
[18:38] <Pici`> BloodFeastIsland: ##windows
[18:38] <Starnestommy> BloodFeastIsland: ##windows
[18:38] <LjL> BloodFeastIsland: ##windows
[18:38] <BloodFeastIsland> hmm
[18:38] <K1rb> OMG, SOmeone please download Urban Terror 4.1 and look in the Folder, it is for Ubuntu too, and this is all Unix related. There's a folder that the app uses called zpak000_assets.pk3, the pk3 is a zip with textures and sounds in it, the game uses this .zip by marking it as a Unix Executable. If you decompress this file, and recompress it, it looses the Unix Executable tag (or w/e marks it as a Unix Executable)
[18:38] <differentreality> oook thanks anyway :))
[18:38] <BloodFeastIsland> i swear i've looked
[18:38] <BloodFeastIsland> thank you three though
[18:38] <BloodFeastIsland> lol
[18:38] <LjL> K1rb: that's chmod +x.
[18:38] <Lnxmad> anyone ever had problems with installation of gusty. mine freezes at installing grub
[18:38] <sridevi>  i have compiled pidgin i'm having probs with SSL for XMPP
[18:39] <z1o> LjL: see binfmt kernel module
[18:39] <sridevi> plz tell me
[18:39] <Starnestommy> sridevi: try asking #pidgin
[18:39] <CDOG_> amenado, so how do i block this or other connections?
[18:39] <amenado> bastid_raZor-> but also it says  "contains a checksum to prevent the opening and recompression of the file"
[18:40] <amenado> CDOG-> before you block,  paste the results of   lsof -i
[18:40] <K1rb> LjL, how do I go about doing that. THis is what I did cd /filelocation, after cd, then I did chmod +x /file and it said it did it, I looked at the file and it was still a .zip but it had a mv. before the name like mv.zpak000_assets.pk3
[18:40] <Homere> hello
[18:40] <sridevi> how should i go about it????
[18:40] <JanMain> need help installing hard drive
[18:41] <amenado> K1rb-> "contains a checksum to prevent the opening and recompression of the file"  <-- see this?
[18:41] <LjL> K1rb, chmod will definitely NOT change the file's name in any way
[18:41] <Teoz> hi, I got 2 hard drives, on formated with Ubuntu 7.1 on it and another with an NTFS partition I really can't afford to lose. Anyways, I want to install Samba and before that, I want to give absolutely everyone permission to read & write in a certain folder on NTFS hard drive
[18:41] <CDOG_> amenado, that connection doesnt appear there mmm : COMMAND   PID       USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE NODE NAME
[18:41] <CDOG_> xchat   25042 deathgiver   11u  IPv4  68742       TCP 192.168.1.12:55112->jobe.wgops.com:ircd (ESTABLISHED)
[18:41] <K1rb> amenado, what's that?
[18:41] <Peter-> K1rb: What the channel name is for Urban Terror?
[18:41] <amenado> K1rb-> just like what it says, the description of what a .pk3 file is
[18:42] <K1rb> Peter- I'm not sure, check Urban Terror's website
[18:42] <Lnxmad> so no one can help
[18:42] <Teoz> however, when I set permissions for the folder in the Others section to Create and Delete files, the permissions just wont set
[18:42] <CDOG_> amenado, and a weird thing is that on the firewall the connection to isreal is not coming from my lan ip like the other connections but from my real public ip
[18:42] <K1rb> amenado, OH! so the file won't recompress right then?
[18:42] <amenado> CDOG-> do a ps aux|grep deathgiver
[18:42] <Teoz> anyone know what the hell ?
[18:42] <K1rb> a pk3 wont
[18:42] <Pici`> Peter-:  #urbanterror on irc.enterthegame.com
[18:42] <Peter-> Pici`: thx
[18:42] <amenado> K1rb-> per the wiki page that bastid  pasted
[18:43] <K1rb> amenado, thanks :/. Even though I use OS X, thx 4 help
[18:43] <CDOG_> amenado   ps aux|grep deathgiver
[18:43] <amenado> CDOG-> it should come from your real ip address, and not your private ip addy
[18:43] <CDOG_> 1000     25542  0.0  0.0   2976   764 pts/2    S+   13:43   0:00 grep
[18:43] <jtravnick> one more question while i was at walmart i was looking at a DVD burner think it was made by memorex it said it could burn you labels for you has anyone tried one of these in linux yet?
[18:44] <mEck0> Hi! is there an app which supports cover art for ipods? I have just fixed so rhythmbox works with my 3rd gen nano, but in rhythmbox, I can't add cover art etc. for album :S
[18:44] <Angela_Smith> hi , I just updated my kernel to AMD K8, but when I reboot DosGrub did not give me an option to boot with that kernel, is there a way to get GRUBDOS to update? TIA :)
[18:44] <unop__> mEck0, i use albumart-qt
[18:44] <amenado> CDOG-> now kill -15 1000  whatever that deathgiver is ..or you can search google for it?  look also under  /proc/1000
[18:44] <gaurav_> this might be a stupid question, but does the grub menu support usb keyboards?
[18:44] <Toznoshio> Q: what does a custom command have to look like when right-clicking on a file, selecting Properties, then the "Open With" tabstrip?
[18:44] <unop__> gaurav_, if the bios has enabled usb keyboard support -- yes
[18:45] <CDOG_> amenado deathgiver is my username :) .. what is -15 1000
[18:45] <amenado> CDOG-> man kill
[18:45] <gaurav_> unop__: strange, i can control the bios with the usb keyboard but it doesn't respond on the grub menu
[18:45] <gaurav_> i'll take another look around the bios
[18:45] <mEck0> unop__, thx, will check it out.
[18:45] <amenado> CDOG i was not even paying attention..
[18:46] <fbc> Why does the new compiled program only run when I'm in the directory where I compiled it? I did a 'sudo make install', so that should have installed it throughout the system, why is the old version still showing up?
[18:46] <xopher> anyone here with an ALC850 and working surround/LFE sound?
[18:46] <CDOG_> amenado, sorry i didnt get what you said.. and i put "man kill -15 1000" and it was an invalid command
[18:46] <amenado> CDOG_-> 192.168.1.12:55112->jobe.wgops.com:ircd  <-- i think related to your ircd
[18:47] <bastid_raZor> fbc; it isn't putting the executable in your /usr/bin or /usr/local/bin .. and it doesn't automatically..
[18:47] <amenado> CDOG-> nope, i meant   man kill
[18:47] <CDOG_> amenado, yeah, i cant see the other connection from terminal. but what is -15 1000? and how/ do i kill it?
[18:47] <fbc> bastid_raZor, So you would you recommend I do that manualy?
[18:47] <amenado> CDOG->   man kill
[18:47] <CDOG_> amenado , i used "man kill -15 1000" and it said it was an invalid option
[18:48] <amenado> CDOG do you read what i pasted?
[18:48] <amenado> CDOG->   man kill
[18:48] <fbc> bastid_raZor,  So just copy ffmpeg to /usr/bin and /usr/local/bin ?
[18:48] <gaurav_> unop__: heh, as i thought, overlooked a bios setting, thanks
[18:49] <unop__> :)
[18:49] <bastid_raZor> fbc; i use /usr/local/bin for things i add.. if you have ffmpeg in /usr/bin you should replace that one.. or it will not know which to use and more than likely it'll use /usr/bin first
[18:49] <amenado> fbc-> look inside your Makefile and see how the install target really installs it..
[18:49] <CDOG_> amenado, i think i have read everything you have said, on one occasion you said now kill -15 100
[18:49] <amenado> CDOG once more, just    man kill
[18:50] <CDOG_> amenado, ok i did that thanks. but what did that do?
[18:50] <Homere> Anyone has serious experience using Ubuntu Server  ?
[18:50] <amenado> CDOG did you read the results?
[18:51] <amenado> Homere-> serious? not joking?
[18:52] <Kyn> Hello, can anyone help me with an installation? Im new to ubuntu, and my harddrive is partitioned into two drives, C and D and each one is 40gb, is there any way for me to have ubuntu use all of D drive, rather then spliting C?
[18:52] <Homere> amenado: with SLA, fast and seamless security updates
[18:52] <SliMM> could anyone help me with LANs?
[18:52] <CDOG_> amenado, yes its a manual of how to use the kill command, the thing is i dont know what pid to kill unless its 15?
[18:52] <amenado> Homere-> sla is negotiated,
[18:52] <fbc> bastid_raZor, it installs to /usr/local/bin
[18:53] <amenado> CDOG-> read the contents of that man kill
[18:53] <amenado> Kyn its possible, you tell the installer to use all of that drive
[18:54] <snmpee> Kyn: Unfortunately, your question did not make sense because you are not aware of how linux treats partitions. Your windows partitions (C and D) will be mounted on a directory under root, denoted as a /
[18:54] <bastid_raZor> fbc; good, do you have that same filename in /usr/bin/ ? if so it will use that first..
[18:54] <fbc> bastid_raZor, Should I just deleted the ffmpeg ffplay ffserver from /usr/bin ?? and the system will pick it up from /usr/local/bin?
[18:54] <CDOG_> amenado, did that but im lost. Sorry, I dont know what i am supposed to do
[18:55] <Peter-> I got a problem. Its called for urban terror sound problem. In terminal i get http://paste.arkku.net/index.php?id=107941580847e9442479d88 this.
[18:55] <snmpee> Kyn: If C and D fill up your entire drive, you need to either resize your windows partitions using gparted or Partition Magic (a windows program which I recommend for you because you are a very newbie).
[18:55] <snmpee> KyleS-home You will then need to make partitions for ext3 and swap.
[18:55] <snmpee> Kyn You will then need to make partitions for ext3 and swap.
[18:55] <fbc> bastid_raZor, or would it be better if I copied them from /usr/local/bin to /usr/bin?
[18:55] <snmpee> KyleS-home this is better explained if you read the FAQ regarding installing ubuntu.
[18:56] <Kyn> Snmpee thank you, Ill try that :)
[18:56] <bastid_raZor> fbc; yes.. you could remove it from /usr/bin
[18:56] <fbc> bastid_raZor, awesome!!! thanks
[18:57] <Codenut> How do you save a backup of your folders using Evolution?
[18:57] <choward__> Help! I get GRUB GRUB GR... like 100 billionty times how can I fix it?
[18:58] <Homere> choward__: fix your mbr
[18:58] <Homere> grub-install /dev/sda
[19:00] <Codenut> Is there an irc channel for Evolution?
[19:00] <amenado> CDOG-> if you read that man page, it tells you what it meant by kill.. i have to go for now
[19:00] <hubuntu> anybody having trouble with pidgin? mine isn't working propertly...
[19:01] <tomxtv> hi i am tryin to have tv out from pc to tv i hear only voice the picture on tv is bluee
[19:01] <hubuntu> it starts and just hangs... Worked perfectly last week
[19:01] <fbc> bastid_raZor, now I get bash: /usr/bin/ffmpeg: No such file or directory when I try to run the command
[19:01] <CDOG_> amenado i did read the manual. Sorry but i do not know what i am supposed to do. *sigh*
[19:01] <fbc> bastid_raZor, Doesn't seem to be picking it up from /usr/local/bin
[19:02] <bastid_raZor> fbc; type $PATH  and what does that tell you?
[19:02] <ejm> is there a list of wifi NICs that work out of the box with Ubuntu or other distros?
[19:02] <fbc> bastid_raZor, returns nothing
[19:02] <ejm> I'm looking for a new laptop, and I don't want to mess with ndiswrapper if possible.
[19:03] <fbc> bastid_raZor, bash: /home/fbc/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games: No such file or directory
[19:03] <fbc> bastid_raZor, I was typing it lower case
[19:04] <tomxtv> hi i am tryin to have tv out from pc to tv i hear only voice the picture on tv is bluee
[19:04] <ejm> never mind. I found ubuntu's page on wireless NICs on the wiki.
[19:04] <bastid_raZor> fbc; odd.. short and simple way to fix it.. mv the newly compiled ffmpeg and the other files to /usr/bin .. with that result from $PATH it should look in /usr/bin and if command isn't found move on to /usr/local/bin .. odd that it isn't.
[19:04] <mkz> I'm running kubuntu 7.10. It's installed to two 250GB HD's.  I've recently installed a single 500GB HD.  I'd like to backup or mirror the current installation to the new disk saving the partition map.  What software/utilty might be best for this?
[19:04] <thiemster> I want to install a new version of ubuntu. How do I use it with my /home folder on a different partition
[19:04] <CDOG_> Anyone know how to block an outgoing connection. There is a strange connection on port 18752 to an ip in Tel Aviv Isreael.. Thank
[19:05] <DeadLy_sp> hello
[19:05] <bastid_raZor> fbc; you did have a version install of ffmpeg before you compiled right? you could uninstall that and that way the compiled version will be used only
[19:05] <fbc> bastid_raZor, Yeah I find it odd too, unless the system caches the directory files and all I ahve to do it close and open my terminal... hmm..
[19:05] <DeadLy_sp> please help with ati radeon 9200 128mb i need change the mesa
[19:05] <DeadLy_sp> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI R200 20060602 AGP 8x x86/MMX/SSE2 TCL
[19:05] <JanMain> damn how can I change permissions on my hard drives?
[19:05] <ejm> death to ATI!
[19:06] <DeadLy_sp> ejm, im poor hehe
[19:06] <fbc> bastid_raZor,  yep, that did it...
[19:06] <thiemster> I want to install a new version of ubuntu. How do I use it with my /home folder on a different partition
[19:06] <ejm> yeah, Nvidia can be expensive.
[19:06] <redips1> Hello all
[19:06] <bastid_raZor> fbc; excellent.. :)
[19:06] <fbc> bastid_raZor,  I losed my teminal session and reopened it and whammo..
[19:06] <CDOG_> Anyone know how to block an outgoing connection. There is a strange connection on port 18752 to an ip in Tel Aviv Isreael.. Thank
[19:06] <emil> hello all :) please visit this and help me out... should only take 5 seconds: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=735273
[19:06] <DeadLy_sp> mesa is a software render, true?
[19:06] <bastid_raZor> fbc; yeah i goess it does cache them.. makes sense
[19:06] <DeadLy_sp> i can't change it to a hardware render?
[19:06] <tomxtv> hi i am tryin to have tv out from pc to tv i hear only voice the picture on tv is bluee
[19:07] <redips1> anyone know of a good newsreader?
[19:07] <tomxtv> here is my lspci
[19:07] <tomxtv> http://www.pastebin.ca/957036
[19:07] <thiemster> redipsl:google reader is pretty good
[19:07] <bastid_raZor> fbc; you can tell bash to recheck them but i forget the command to do that.. something like source bash.rc or something like that
[19:07] <thiemster> redipsl: and cross platform
[19:07] <unop_> bastid_raZor, source ~/.bashrc
[19:07] <emil> hello all :) please visit this and help me out... should only take 5 seconds: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=735273
[19:07] <redips1> I'm lookinf gor something for usenet
[19:07] <unop_> bastid_raZor, or even - . ~/bashrc
[19:07] <bastid_raZor> unop; thanks i knew it was something like that..
[19:08] <thiemster> emil: maybe avant-window-navigator
[19:08] <bastid_raZor> fbc; what unop said source ~/.bashrc
[19:08] <emil> will try thx
[19:08] <tomxtv> anyone who can help me
[19:08] <thiemster> emil: it requires compiz, though
[19:08] <thiemster> emil: i don't know if u have that
[19:08] <thiemster> emil: but that is one cool screenshot
[19:08] <thiemster> emil: good luck
[19:09] <devnet> emil:  what version of ubuntu?
[19:09] <bastid_raZor> emil; kiba dock possibly.. i don't know if it requires compiz tough
[19:09] <emil> 7.10 64 bit
[19:09] <CDOG_> Does anyone know how to block outgoing connections to a specific ip or port using iptables? Thanks
[19:10] <bonaldo2000> I cant play any sound in ubuntu. I get a lot of these errors in dmesg: [255182.857952] Failure reading codec reg 0x2c,Last value=0x2c80ac44 and [255371.321611] Failure writing to cs5535 codec . ANyone know whats wrong?
[19:10] <PeanutzM1> does anyone know how i can set up my bluetooth headphones so that all sound is sent to them as opposed to just the applications that are specified for bluetooth?
[19:10] <devnet> emil:  little how-to here:  http://phorolinux.com/how-to-install-avant-window-navigator-on-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon.html
[19:10] <devnet> emil: 64bit I don't know much about though as I don't run it
[19:10] <bardyr> CDOG, http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-iptables-6-how-to-block-outgoing-access-to-selectedspecific-ip-address.html
[19:10] <emil> devnet: thx man
[19:10] <bardyr> CDOG_, http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-iptables-6-how-to-block-outgoing-access-to-selectedspecific-ip-address.html
[19:10] <hubuntu> I'm on gutsy (7.10) and pidgin (the IM tool) is just not working... anyone having the same problem or is it just me?
[19:10] <bardyr> CDOG_, Google is a wonderful tool
[19:11] <thiemster> my swap partition doesn't always autostart, can anyone help me with this?
[19:11] <elliotjhug> hubuntu: Whats the issue?
[19:11] <devnet> emil: np
[19:11] <CDOG_> bardyr thanks
[19:11] <Toznoshio> Q: what does a custom command have to look like when right-clicking on a file, selecting Properties, then the "Open With" tabstrip?
[19:11] <hubuntu> elliotjhug piding just hangs after starting it
[19:11] <avestruz> cristinans
[19:11] <thiemster> my swap partition doesn't always autostart, can anyone help me with this?
[19:11] <Blissex3> Toznoshio: pretty? yellow? :-)
[19:11] <ComputerGuru> Is it possible to upgrade from Ubuntu 7.10 having downloaded ubuntu-8.04-beta-desktop-i386.iso?
[19:12] <maghetta> list
[19:12] <bastid_raZor> Toznoshio; /usr/bin/appName or where ever you have the binary for the application to open the file with
[19:12] <ComputerGuru> Or does one *have* to download the alternate install CD to upgrade to Heron beta?
[19:12] <elliotjhug> hubuntu: ok - can you open a terminal for me - preferably on a seperate virtual desktop - so we can check for any popups that may be being hidden (tell me when its open)
[19:13] <Toznoshio> bastid_raZor: so I don't need anything like %F or %f or %b at the end of that?
[19:13] <hubuntu> I start it, Can see my contacts and the nickserv windows telling me that my oassword was recogniuzed, but no use: I camn't use it, and when I change window  and come back to pidgin (like right now) it is just white, no contacts, no nickserv, no nothing
[19:13] <thiemster> hubuntu: try reinstalling it
[19:13] <gamma-k> Is there a relatively easy way to hide a folder or a volume?
[19:13] <bastid_raZor> Toznoshio; not that i know of.. what type of file are you trying to open and what application are you specifying?
[19:13] <hubuntu> elliotjhug, the terminal is open
[19:14] <unop_> gamma-k, apart from renaming it with a . infront -- errm, i dont think so
[19:14] <hubuntu> shall i run it from the terminal?
[19:14] <elliotjhug> yeah
[19:14] <elliotjhug> see if it gives errors
[19:14] <THIEMSTER> gamma-k: it probably requires some extra program or something. try searching for one online
[19:14] <Toznoshio> bastid_raZor: .doc files with MS Word on top of CrossOver Office, but with a sudo in front of it
[19:14] <maghetta> @cerca padroni notte
[19:14] <gamma-k> unop: okaaay. that don't tell me much. could you please specify a little?
[19:14] <emil> devnet: problem.. libpango1.0-0 (>=1.18.3)
[19:14] <jpatrick> !it | maghetta
[19:14] <ubotu> maghetta: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[19:14] <Peter->  I got a problem. Its called for urban terror sound problem. In terminal i get http://paste.arkku.net/index.php?id=107941580847e9442479d88 this.
[19:15] <DRebellion> gamma-k, add a "." to the front of the file name (eg  file ---> .file)
[19:15] <Rugg> Compterguru: try sudo update-manager -d
[19:15] <maghetta> #ubuntu-it
[19:15] <devnet> emil: I'm at work so I can't give it a try to help you :(
[19:15] <unop_> gamma-k, there is no real way to hide files and directories in unix -- but you can restrict access into them via permissions
[19:15] <bastid_raZor> Toznoshio; good luck with that.. :)
[19:15] <hubuntu> elliotjhug, it does, it has to do with the DCOP server.-.. I started system monitor and tried to kill the child process, but it won't work, It kill the whole app... It's a rhythmbox add-on I added
[19:15] <DRebellion> gamma-k, of course, this is purely aesthetic
[19:15] <gamma-k> DRebellion: you mean it's just a guestion of simple renaming?
[19:16] <elliotjhug> hubuntu: just uninstall that then - unless you really need it - then you may want to file a bug report against the plugin?
[19:16] <hubuntu> any idea on how to disablke it (tried to reach it thorugh the menu, but it "freezes" before I cam do it with thwe mouse
[19:16] <unop_> gamma-k, people can still view the file -- although most shells do not list dotfiles
[19:16] <unop_> by default **
[19:17] <hubuntu> I activated the plugin from within pidgin...
[19:17] <gamma-k> unop_: ok. I already fixed permissions. I thought there might be something more...
[19:17] <elliotjhug> hubuntu: ah
[19:17] <elliotjhug> hubuntu: I'll try and find the config file
[19:18] <hunteke> hey, I have a Logitech USB headset.  I've gotten it to work, but other people (via VOIP) hear me as /really/ quiet.  I've tried alsamixer -c Headset and turned up the mic on both playing and capturing.  Where else should I look?
[19:19] <elliotjhug> hubuntu: Try looking in ~/.purple/prefs.xml for its preference and disable it
[19:19] <hubuntu> ok, I'll give it a shot
[19:19] <gamma-k> DRebellion: unop_: Thanks! I'll try and see :)
[19:20] <needhelp> hello why does firestarter vanish from desk bar afther few min as if it shuts down?
[19:20] <needhelp> happend of other distros too can you help me solve?
[19:20] <needhelp> anyone here?
[19:21] <segfault> hi, someone is having troubles with broadcom in hardy beta ?
[19:21] <segfault> i can get it work
[19:21] <segfault> cant*
[19:21] <needhelp> anyone can help me with firestarter?
[19:21] <hubuntu> how can I opt out the whole thing in the prefs.xml file? just # or /*  */ or what?
[19:21]  * Stroganoff is away, auto-away after 15 minutes, (log\off pager\on)
[19:22] <hubuntu> elliotjhug,
[19:22] <needhelp> my problem is that firestarter vanishes from near the clock afther few min as if it shuts down why?
[19:22] <elliotjhug> hubuntu: sorry - missed the caht
[19:22] <needhelp> elliotjhug,  can you help me?
[19:22] <gamma-k> unop_: or DRebellion: I have Vista installed on the same drive. I hope the dot in front of the windows systemfolders does not affect windows usability... does it?
[19:23] <LollinopiL> how can i write a .iso file on the dvd ?
[19:23] <needhelp> use k3b
[19:23] <needhelp> who can give me help with firestarter?
[19:23] <hubuntu> elliotjhug, just wondered how to opt out aline like # or /* */
[19:23] <hubuntu> do you know?
[19:23] <SliMM> wher can i configure my wLAN settings?
[19:24] <_Drax> Anyone that could help me, I have messed up my tcp settings, could someone do " sysctl -a | fgrep tcp " and paste me the output?
[19:24] <needhelp> any helpers here??
[19:24] <elliotjhug> hubuntu: I'll just check
[19:24] <LadyNikon> needhelp: try stating your problem with firestarter
[19:24] <segfault> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/jockey/+bug/203958/comments/9 <- anyone?
[19:24] <davi> Can I upgrade from Ubuntu 6.x to Ubuntu 7.x?
[19:24] <elliotjhug> hubuntu: It'll probably be HTML comments since its XML - 1 mo
[19:24] <LollinopiL> how can i write a .iso file on the dvd ?
[19:24] <Flannel> davi: You can upgrade from 6.06 to 6.10 to 7.04 to 7.10, but you can't skip (once 8.04 is out, you can go straight from 6.06 to 8.04)
[19:25] <needhelp> thanx LadyNikon  well on everydistro this one too happens that afther i set it up vanishes from near close afther few min as if it shuts down why so LadyNikon ?
[19:25] <davi> thanks Flannel
[19:25] <elliotjhug> hubuntu: yup - same as HTML /*
[19:25] <Flannel> !upgrade | davi
[19:25] <ubotu> davi: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[19:25] <needhelp> clock*
[19:25] <davi> thanks again Flannel
[19:25] <ComputerGuru> Any idea if it's possible to upgrade from Gutsy using ubuntu-8.04-beta-desktop-i386.iso?
[19:26] <Flannel> ComputerGuru: No.  you need the alternate CD
[19:26] <hubuntu> elliotjhug, thanks a LOT I got it fixed :)
[19:26] <killown> when ubuntu hardy will be released?
[19:26] <segfault> damn jockey
[19:26] <hubuntu> love this community!!
[19:26] <ComputerGuru> Flannel: Can I configure software sources to use it as a package source at least?
[19:26] <Flannel> killown: end of april
[19:26] <KalEl> hi the tracker left pane shows count of files found however the middle pane shows no file
[19:26] <hubuntu> peace
[19:26] <killown> ahhhh
[19:26] <tomtvout> hi here is my pastebin i cant have picture from pc to tv here is my xorg file
[19:26] <Flannel> ComputerGuru: the desktop ISO doesn't have any packages on it.
[19:26] <tomtvout> http://www.pastebin.ca/957070
[19:26] <tomtvout> hi here is my pastebin i cant have picture from pc to tv here is my xorg file
[19:26] <guestbuntu55> Hi
[19:27] <killown> Flannel, does hardy be very unstable?
[19:27] <killown> ops
[19:27] <killown> Flannel, does hardy "beta" be very unstable?
[19:27] <needhelp> so who can asnwer me on my question on firestarter why does it vanish from near clock the icon afther few min i run it as if it was shut down not first distro it happens this
[19:27] <ComputerGuru> Flannel: thanks. I guess I'll go kill another 700 MB now ;-(
[19:27] <LollinopiL> right click on the iso file: open with CD-DVD creator, click on it, the program will burn the image or only copy it ? i hope it'll burn ...
[19:27] <elliotjhug> hubuntu: Glad to hear it - and no probs
[19:28] <doktoreas> hello
[19:28] <marlun> IS it better to have the swap space on a different harddrive then os?
[19:28] <LollinopiL> right click on the iso file: open with CD-DVD creator, click on it, the program will burn the image or only copy it ? i hope it'll burn ...
[19:28] <doktoreas> anyone knows where belong to files like: 2782187520 2008-03-25 18:22 AMI_uwpkDH
[19:28]  * needhelp seems no one has answer for me today :)
[19:28] <doktoreas> inside /var/tmp?
[19:28] <needhelp> !it
[19:28] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[19:28] <qense> I've got a question. I've installed hardy heron from the gutsy live cd using debootstrap
[19:28] <qense> but I don' t know if I've gto fstab right
[19:28] <guestbuntu55> When i try to enable desktop effects, it says: Desktop effects could not enabled.
[19:29] <ShadowApex> Hey, I just got my Nvidia driver installed and it works correctly and everything, but my resolution changes back to 800x600 every time I restart my computer; so I have to go change them every time I boot up. Is there any way to write out these changes permanently?
[19:29] <qense> this is my fstab: http://pastebin.com/m2c9fa275
[19:30] <guestbuntu55> :)When i try to enable desktop effects, it says: Desktop effects could not enabled.
[19:30] <needhelp> !mark
[19:30] <arvind_khadri> ShadowApex, edit ur xorg.conf
[19:30] <ubotu> Mark "sabdfl" Shuttleworth is our favourite cosmonaut, the founder of Canonical and the primary driver behind Ubuntu. You can find pieces of his thinking at http://www.markshuttleworth.com
[19:30] <Flannel> killown: yes, betas are generally unstable.  Definition of beta software and all
[19:30] <guestbuntu55> !help
[19:30] <ShadowApex> arvind_khadri: I did. My xorg is properly configured with the correct resolutions that I want to use but it still boots up in 800x600 for some reason
[19:30] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[19:31] <guestbuntu55> !compiz
[19:31] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[19:31] <DarKnesS_WolF> !gatos
[19:31] <ubotu> For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[19:31] <guestbuntu55> When i try to enable desktop effects, it says: Desktop effects could not enabled.
[19:31] <beex> can I have beagle/tracker search within one folder, recursively?
[19:31] <EdwardXp3> when the screen doesn't want to change resolutions anymore, whats' the reset command for it/
[19:31] <Flannel> killown: yes, betas are generally unstable.  Definition of beta software after all
[19:31] <ricanelite> lol
[19:32] <EdwardXp3> how do you "twick" the screen to reset back to normal?
[19:32] <guestbuntu55> When i try to enable desktop effects, it says: Desktop effects could not enabled.
[19:32] <arvind_khadri> ShadowApex, ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=129379&postcount=21  tryt this
[19:32] <EdwardXp3> i'm having an issue with the screen resolution
[19:33] <guestbuntu55> Help? When i try to enable desktop effects, it says: Desktop effects could not enabled.
[19:33] <KR-data> !oss
[19:33] <arooni> given a mpeg file at 640x480 resolution, ubuntu gutsy, how would i convert this mpeg (encoded in MPEG2 video codec, MP3 audio codec) to a flash video (.flv) file?
[19:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about oss - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:33] <KR-data> ok, I got a strange question. One of my friends switched to ubuntu. Unfortunately he has an Creative X-Fi Fata1!ty  soundcard. A search shows that there is oss support for that thing. How is the best way to install oss
[19:34] <guestbuntu55> When i try to enable desktop effects, it says: Desktop effects could not enabled.
[19:34] <guestbuntu55> When i try to enable desktop effects, it says: Desktop effects could not enabled.
[19:34] <Adpad> :)
[19:34] <DRebellion> !repeat | guestbuntu55
[19:34] <ubotu> guestbuntu55: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[19:35] <rryan> guestbuntu55: Please tell us more information. What graphics card do you have?
[19:35] <arvind_khadri> guestbuntu55, enable drivers for ur grahics card
[19:35] <guestbuntu55> !patience
[19:35] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[19:35] <guestbuntu55> ATi
[19:35] <bonaldo2000> I cant play any sound in ubuntu. I get a lot of these errors in dmesg: [255182.857952] Failure reading codec reg 0x2c,Last value=0x2c80ac44 and [255371.321611] Failure writing to cs5535 codec . ANyone know whats wrong?
[19:35] <mohi> hi
[19:35] <rryan> guestbuntu55 : ATI is just a brand, what card do you have?
[19:35] <mohi> where can I find php.ini ? I wanna disable register globals in my localhost
[19:36] <arvind_khadri> guestbuntu55, have u enabled drivers for it
[19:36] <y0> hi, some1 can help me and say how can i remove a theme from firefox in kubuntu ?
[19:36] <rryan> mohi : It should be in /etc/php/apache2/   (if you mean php.ini for mod_php)
[19:36] <arvind_khadri> mohi, locate php.ini
[19:36] <guestbuntu55> rryan: RV370 5B60 [Radeon X300 (PCIE)]
[19:36] <Adpad> ALL my drives have become locked - can someone help please?  tried to use the diskmounter...
[19:36] <killown> ty
[19:36] <ShadowApex> arvind_khadri: That steps in the link you've provided I've already tried and the problem persists
[19:36] <killown> Flannel, ty
[19:36] <guestbuntu55> g2g
[19:37] <Bael_Junior> Hi :9
[19:37] <mohi> rryan: yes! mod_php... ty :)
[19:37] <tomtvout> hi here is my pastebin i cant have picture from pc to tv here is my xorg file anyzone who can help me
[19:37] <rryan> guestbuntu55  : try this guide
[19:37] <rryan> guestbuntu55  : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[19:37] <needhelp> !seen sabdfl
[19:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen sabdfl - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:38] <marisol> lisa23
[19:38] <arvind_khadri> ShadowApex, wats ur graphics card??
[19:38] <Adpad> ALL my drives have become locked - can someone help please?  tried to use the diskmounter... cat /etc/fstab: http://paste.stgraber.org/1975
[19:38] <vanstee> could anyone point me in the right direction to start developing for ubuntu
[19:38] <y0> rryan u know how can i remove a theme from firefox, cause this theme dont let me open mozilla
[19:38] <y0> u.u
[19:38] <ShadowApex> arvind_khadri: 9600gt
[19:38] <Bael_Junior> chato's webcam spy download link place.
[19:38] <vanstee> i know c++ but i havnt had any OS experience
[19:38] <ShadowApex> arvind_khadri: Using this driver: http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_171.06.html
[19:38] <vanstee> i know i have a lot to learn
[19:38] <DRebellion> vanstee, #ubuntu-motu
[19:38] <vanstee> thanks
[19:39] <KR-data>  A search shows that there is oss support for Creative X-Fi Fatal1ty. How is the best way to install oss?
[19:39] <rryan> y0 : I know a really grungy way :) From the terminal type 'cd ./.mozilla/firefox' Type 'ls' to find the directory for your profile. Go into that directory using 'cd'
[19:40] <Cpudan80> What is the bootstrap protocol client used for?
[19:40] <rryan> y0: From there, go into the 'extensions' folder
[19:40] <Cpudan80> And why might it be listening on port 68 (udp) ?
[19:40] <rryan> y0 : there will be a folder in that folder for each extension or theme you have
[19:40] <y0> ok i'll try
[19:40] <y0> ty
[19:40] <rryan> y0 : If you look in each of those folders, you'll probably find the graphics associated with the theme.. if you find the right directory, delete the directory
[19:40] <tomtvout> hi here is my pastebin i cant have picture from pc to tv here is my xorg file anyzone who can help me
[19:40] <rryan> y0: Another option is to start a new profile
[19:40] <Adpad> all my disks have become locked - can someone help please?  tried to use the diskmounter... cat /etc/fstab: http://paste.stgraber.org/1975
[19:41] <rryan> y0: you can hit alt+f2 and run 'firefox -profilemanager'
[19:41] <cousin_luigi> hello
[19:41] <salah> Any recommended simple editor with syntax highlighting for PHP?
[19:41] <y0> rryan how a new profile ?
[19:41] <rryan> y0: From there, hit create new profile
[19:41] <KR-data> salah, kate
[19:41] <y0> cause the problem is that firefox doesnt open
[19:41] <cousin_luigi> network-manager is apparently having problems with dhcp
[19:41] <rryan> y0 : Yea. If you aren't particularly attached to your old profile you can just start a new one.
[19:41] <cousin_luigi> I have to run dhclient manually at each boot, any idea?
[19:41] <y0> rryan  and how star a new profile ?
[19:42] <rryan> y0: Hit alt+f2, in the dialog that comes up, type 'firefox -profilemanager'
[19:42] <salah> KR-data, is there any gnome version of it?
[19:42] <rryan> y0: And then hit ok. A window will pop up that shows you your firefoxp rofiles. Hit create new profile.
[19:42] <ks> how do I build initrd image ?
[19:42] <y0> rryan doesnt work
[19:42] <KR-data> salah, not sure, I use kde :(
[19:42] <y0> cause firefox cant open
[19:42] <y0> x)
[19:42] <KR-data> salah, but emacs can do you work too
[19:43] <rryan> y0 : make sure to spell '-profilemanager' correctly
[19:43] <tomtvout> hi here is my pastebin i cant have picture from pc to tv here is my xorg file anyzone who can help me
[19:43] <tomtvout> http://www.pastebin.ca/957070
[19:44] <y0> rryan yeah i did
[19:44] <rryan> y0: Hm. Does alt+f2 bring up the launch program dialog?
[19:44] <y0> yeah
[19:44] <y0> appear the profile
[19:45] <y0> do i edit it ?
[19:45] <rryan> y0: the profile list pops up?
[19:45] <salah> KR-data, I don't like emacs.. I'll try eclipse, i've heard they have a php module for it
[19:45] <y0> delete profile ?
[19:45] <y0> and create a new profile ?
[19:45] <rryan> y0: Yea, once that profile manager comes up, you need to hit 'create profile'
[19:45] <KR-data> salah, I think you are better off with the php prepatched eclipse then
[19:45] <NOOB> im running of my  live cd because my vid card went crazy can anyone help?
[19:45] <ShadowApex> Hey, I just got my Nvidia driver installed for my 9600gt and it works correctly and everything, but my resolution changes back to 800x600 every time I restart my computer; so I have to go change them every time I boot up. Is there any way to write out these changes permanently? I've already tried editing my xorg.conf but the problem persists.
[19:45] <salah> KR-data, pardon me, can you explain that for me please?
[19:46] <rryan> y0: I mentioned that earlier. Anyway, good luck with that. I need to get going. I'll be around later if you have any questions :).
[19:46] <tomtvout> helllllllllllllo
[19:46] <tomtvout> helllllllllllllo
[19:46] <tomtvout> helllllllllllllo
[19:46] <tomtvout> helllllllllllllo
[19:46] <tomtvout> helllllllllllllo
[19:46] <tomtvout> helllllllllllllo
[19:46] <FloodBot3> tomtvout: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:46] <tomtvout> helllllllllllllo
[19:46] <y0> ok ty
[19:46] <NOOB> how do I roll back to an earlier vid setting?
[19:46] <artfullylost> That would be.... you kow.... not unintentional.
[19:46] <KR-data> salah, shouldn't we take this in a private chat, easier and won't disturb other with a non-distro related debate
[19:46] <Johnson> for some reason a while ago a lost permission to my keyring, it just said i dont have permission which is annoying because i have to enter wifi password everytime. anyone else have this problem
[19:47] <jhhdk> seems https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux doesn't work, install kernel boots fine but installer fails at detect cd rom step
[19:47] <NOOB> I changed the chipset trying to dual screen and now I cannot change res
[19:47] <NOOB> I would soo greatly appreciate some help
[19:47] <ShadowApex> Hey, I just got my Nvidia driver installed for my 9600gt and it works correctly and everything, but my resolution changes back to 800x600 every time I restart my computer; so I have to go change them every time I boot up. Is there any way to write out these changes permanently? I've already tried editing my xorg.conf but the problem persists.
[19:48] <bancai> how can i start a script just before gdm starts?
[19:48] <techII> im trying to make a machine work as an intermediate between a windows box, and a networked printer (the software provided by the manufacturer would likely bring the system to a crawl if installed); can anyone point me in the right direction?
[19:48] <popo> hy
[19:48] <james_n> Can someone help me with sharing hdb1 over a network (other computers are windows)
[19:49] <galvinate> hello all
[19:49] <Adpad> all my disks have become locked - can someone help me unlock please?  tried to use the diskmounter... cat /etc/fstab: http://paste.stgraber.org/1975
[19:49] <cdrick_> #ubuntu-fr
[19:49] <ComputerGuru> james_n: see the samba section of http://ubuntuguide.org/
[19:49] <Adpad> cdrick_: is that for me?
[19:50] <alan_m> adpad, no
[19:51] <tomtvout> hey anyone who can help me out with tvout on ubuntu
[19:51] <KR-data> salah, seen what I've written in the private message?
[19:52] <Flare183> !samba | james_n
[19:52] <ubotu> james_n: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[19:52] <salah> KR-data, sure, don't you get my messages?
[19:52] <llima> Hello again, channel. In Ubuntu, is there an way to automatically answer all instalations questions? I'm reinstalling the same systems again and again (for testing purposes) and it's boring to keep answering the same questions... Where can I find doc for that?
[19:52] <KR-data> salah, doesn't seem so, brb, I'll check my settings
[19:52] <Adpad> where is good ol' bazhang
[19:53] <tomtvout> hey anyone who can help me out with tvout on ubuntu
[19:53] <artfullylost> Configurating hardware.
[19:53] <artfullylost> -.-
[19:53] <poseidon> How do I install compiz themes?
[19:53] <Flare183> poseidon: emerald
[19:53] <poseidon> yes
[19:53] <poseidon> it's .emerald
[19:53] <poseidon> Flarel83, is the a program named emerald?
[19:54] <Flare183> poseidon: yes
[19:54] <mad_max02> go to theme manager and install it :D
[19:54]  * Flare183 says for the love of peace my nick is Flare183 (that is Flare -- one -- eight -- three)
[19:55] <NOOB> how do i reinstall the drivers that I installed when i originally installed ubuntu?
[19:55] <mkz> what is the best software to mirror an installation?
[19:56] <DRebellion> !clone | mkz
[19:56] <ubotu> mkz: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate
[19:56] <techII> NOOB, what happened to them in the first place?
[19:56] <mkz> !automate | mkz
[19:56] <DRebellion> !automate | llima
[19:56] <ubotu> llima: Ways to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html - See also !cloning
[19:56] <xb3rt> anybody know how to setup a mybook on ubunutu
[19:56] <Adpad> all my disks have become locked - can someone help me unlock please?  tried to use the diskmounter... cat /etc/fstab: http://paste.stgraber.org/1975
[19:57] <llima> Thanks, DRebellion!
[19:57] <techII> or did something just stop working?
[19:57] <mkz> DRebellion: thank you (again)
[19:57] <needhelp> anyone back to give me a hand to understand why firestarter icon vanishes afther few secondons even with minimize on tray enabled?
[19:57] <NOOB> changed chipset to versa and got dual mirror screens but low res and when i tried to change back it didn't work
[19:57] <DRebellion> :D
[19:57] <taime1> how can i restore my trash icon on my desktop so that it works properly?
[19:57] <NOOB> settings look like they are back but the res is fixed to a certain res
[19:57] <Coinee> hiya :)
[19:57] <needhelp> Drrebellion can you give me a  hand?
[19:58] <techII> seems like a Xorg configuration issue
[19:58] <needhelp> why does the firestarter icon vanish i seen in ubuntu forum no asnwer someone help me please on this grrr
[19:58] <NOOB> can you please help?
[19:58] <gamma-k> DRebellion: Does renaming a windows partition shown as a folder in ubuntu with a dot in front affect the windows system? I hope not...
[19:58] <qense> no
[19:59] <NOOB> or is there a room that helps with vid problems? been running ubuntu for a week so Im new
[19:59] <qense> it's just the name you give ti at the desktop
[19:59] <Flare183> !who | genuser
[19:59] <ubotu> genuser: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[19:59] <Flare183> crap sorry
[19:59] <Flare183> !who | gense
[19:59] <ubotu> gense: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[19:59] <needhelp> HELLO WHO CAN GIVE ME A HAND WITH FIRESTARTER ICON?
[19:59] <Adpad> !caps
[19:59] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[19:59] <needhelp> ok
[20:00] <needhelp> seems you can't
[20:00] <Adpad> :)
[20:00] <Coinee> i think your caps lock key is stuck. :(
[20:00] <qense> Flaer183: Ok I will try to remember that :)
[20:00] <taime1> how can i restore my trash icon on my desktop so that it works properly?
[20:00] <bancai> why isnt there any inittab in ubunt anymore?
[20:00] <techII> unfortunately, xorg is one of my weak points, possibly try to have the config rebuilt (dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, or something like that)
[20:00] <needhelp> i repeat again my firestartest icon keeps vanishing ubuntu forums have same problem no asnwer can you help ?
[20:00] <taime1> how can i restore my trash icon on my desktop so that it works properly?
[20:00] <needhelp> firestarter*
[20:00] <taime1> crap. sorry
[20:00] <taime1> thought that was a diff channel
[20:00] <qense> needhelp: from where does your firestarter icon vanish?
[20:01] <anthis-> dms stoned-hacker.co.uk
[20:01] <pulpfiction> how do i give rar support for ubuntu?
[20:01] <bancai> why isnt there any inittab in ubunt anymore?
[20:01] <Coinee> pulpfiction: have you tried 7zip?
[20:01] <qense> pulpfiction: look for packages with rar in their names in synaptics
[20:01] <qense> that way file-roller can handle them too
[20:01] <NOOB> kk, thnx anyways
[20:01] <pulpfiction> there are unrar, unrar-free and rar
[20:02] <needhelp> from the bar near the clock quensa
[20:02] <komputes> what is the name of the RDP server/Daemon, and I don't mean VNC/Vino
[20:02] <needhelp> it vanishes from near the clock bar quense afther few sec
[20:03] <qense> pulpfiction: I should install the unrar package
[20:03] <qense> needhelp: that's because it's not autostarted by default and very easily closed
[20:03] <techII> komputes, 'tsclient' looks like it will work as a client
[20:03] <needhelp> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=573530 im not the only one i heard many
[20:04] <qense> needhelp: you can solve it by editing the sessions in System-Preferences and add there the command firestarter to start at login
[20:04] <needhelp> o quensa and how do i solve that?
[20:04] <komputes> techII: I need the server
[20:04] <needhelp> ok im linux first days can you quide me to it quensa please?
[20:04] <komputes> techII: the other side to the client
[20:04] <Coinee> i've got a strange problem... not strictly ubuntu related tho... i installed a library (libupnp-1.4.2) but when i install an app that is dependent on it it says the library < 1.4.2... i tried ldconfig -v | grep libupnp-1.4.2, but that returned nothing... any ideas? :)
[20:05] <qense> needhelp: go to System->Preferences->Sessions
[20:05] <needhelp> ok then?
[20:06] <qense> needhelp: now press add and insert firestarter as command and think of a name you fancy
[20:06] <techII> komputes, searching with "~d rdp" in aptitude (another frontend to apt) i didn't see a server
[20:06] <qense> now it should start whenever you logon
[20:06] <needhelp> ok thanx im on mint
[20:06] <qense> needhelp: make sure you don't close the program bya ccident
[20:06] <needhelp> so need to see how to to that on mint
[20:06] <qense> it happens very easily with that
[20:06] <pmratpoison> hello! does anyone know any sites with programming learning resources? I'm mostly interested in C/C++
[20:06] <needhelp> but our engine is ubuntu so might be same we are gusty too
[20:07] <qense> needhelp: do you use GNOME?
[20:07] <needhelp> yes
[20:07] <aquila> alguem sabe como importar msgs do Outlook para o Thunderbird?
[20:07] <needhelp> so where i go?
[20:07] <qense> needhelp: btw, this channel is actually for ubuntu support, and mint is another distribution
[20:07] <needhelp> im running mint daryna 4.0 gnome that is ubuntu 7.10 gusty motor
[20:07] <ICQnumber> pmratpoison: join ##c++ channel
[20:07] <needhelp> i know but they did not know there
[20:07] <qense> it should be the same
[20:08] <needhelp> but we still ubuntu based
[20:08] <needhelp> can you tell me where to go for this stuff you told me?
[20:08] <Adpad> needhelp:  I was also struggling with Mint until yesterday, then I installed Ubuntu
[20:08] <komputes> techII: I did the same, which is why i'm asking here, I mean it's bizzare that ubuntu comes with an RDP client and no server end!?!
[20:08] <ere4si> !topic > needhelp
[20:08] <needhelp> im fine with mint just need to solve this firestarter thing
[20:08] <qense> needhelp: it should be the same since it's both gnome
[20:09] <techII> komputes, google brings up http://sourceforge.net/projects/xrdp , im still waiting for the page to load
[20:09] <qense> needhelp: does mint has a control panel?
[20:09] <needhelp> yes
[20:09] <needhelp> it's ubuntu gusty made easy
[20:09] <qense> choose sessions there and continue
[20:09] <komputes> techII: theres also the possibility that RDP is not available for POSIX systems, is it a windows only thing?
[20:09] <techII> would probably have to compile it
[20:09] <needhelp> ok im on it then?
[20:09] <needhelp> and thanx for help
[20:09] <qense> yes
[20:10] <needhelp> startup programs add firestarter?
[20:10] <qense> yes
[20:10] <needhelp> thanx eheh
[20:10] <qense> mint is just ubuntu with some fancy stuff installed and enabled by default :)
[20:11] <qense> and the wizard added
[20:11] <qense> but the menu and control-panel are also available in ubuntu, you just have to find them
[20:11] <qense> (and sometimes install them)(
[20:11] <needhelp> mint is ubuntu for begginers i try all distro for desk mint is the only i can use no terminal
[20:11] <komputes> techII: Good to know but I would expect this to be in the repositories if it were ready
[20:11] <Coinee> and here i thought ubuntu was easy... :)
[20:11] <j3kyll> hi, im trying to start playing dvd's on the totem movie player. I need the codec for this. the problem is that when i try to get the codec (sudo apt-get install gst-plugins-ugly) it says i can't find the package... what should i do? update my sources?
[20:11] <needhelp> i think it's the future but it's nice if we unite with ubuntu comunity as we use their engine
[20:11] <Adpad> you know that Mint file manager that has Amarok (in KDE) enabled??  How do I get that in Ubuntu? :O
[20:11] <xb3rt> Does anyone here know how to set up a mybook on ubuntu
[20:11] <komputes> it's for human beings, that doen't mean it's easy
[20:12] <Coinee> don't i know it... :/
[20:12] <sarah____> hey guys, anyone using hardy haron yet?
[20:12] <ere4si> !hardy
[20:12] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[20:12] <Coinee> but then I'm on Mac OSX... ;)
[20:12] <needhelp> ubuntu is for itermediate to power users mint is for everyone ;)
[20:12] <komputes> sarah____: yes, theres a channel #ubuntu+1 for hardy
[20:13] <needhelp> at least for me i never seen such an essential desktop and easy distro before
[20:13]  * qense is using hardy
[20:13] <Flannel> needhelp: please ask the mint people for help with mint.
[20:13] <qense> I just installed it from a gutsy livecd using debootstrap and schroot :)
[20:13] <komputes> xb3rt: whats mybook?
[20:13] <j3kyll> hi, im trying to start playing dvd's on the totem movie player. I need the codec for this. the problem is that when i try to get the codec (sudo apt-get install gst-plugins-ugly) it says i can't find the package... what should i do? update my sources?
[20:13] <qense> anyway, I' ve got to go now
[20:13] <qense> bye
[20:13] <xb3rt> komputes: its an external harddrive
[20:13] <komputes> j3kyll: I recommend VLC
[20:13] <Itaku> i installed phpmyadmin but how do i run it?
[20:14] <mkarnicki> hi, i want to CONTRIBUTE. I wanna help translating ubuntu hardy, where do I start?
[20:14] <komputes> j3kyll: no codecs, all in one player
[20:14] <iinab> connect #gsoc
[20:14] <alan_m> !hardy | mkarnicki
[20:14] <izzy_> anyone know if postfix  and postfix-tls different ?
[20:14] <ubotu> mkarnicki: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[20:14] <j3kyll> komputes oh really ? thanks sounds good
[20:14] <alan_m> you can start there :)
[20:14] <needhelp> qense i done thanx 1000 should i enable auto remeber running apps too ?
[20:14] <mkarnicki> thank you :)
[20:14] <komputes> j3kyll: make your your sources are uncommented (no #) in /etc/apt/sources.list
[20:15] <needhelp> that's for log out say or it's best not too?
[20:15] <Coinee> is there some sort of general linux help channel around? :)
[20:15] <j3kyll> komputes : okay thanks. im going to try your recomendation. ttyl
[20:15] <izzy_> !AUTH
[20:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about auth - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:15] <needhelp> you still here quense?
[20:15] <alan_m> Coinee, you might try #linux
[20:15] <xb3rt> I've got an external storage device connected to my wireless router and am trying to figure out how to access this storage through ubuntu, any ideas?
[20:15] <KalEl> the package gutsy-wallpapers has incorrect description - how can i correct it
[20:15] <Itaku> i installed phpmyadmin but how do i run it???
[20:16] <Coinee> that does sound like a rather sensible idea... ;)
[20:16] <izzy_> anyone know how to get Auth to show up when telneted ?
[20:16] <rufus_> what is the name for compiz config settings manager?
[20:16] <rufus_> in apt-get
[20:16] <KalEl> Itaku, http://localhost/phpmyadmin
[20:16] <Coinee> thanks... just one more thing: all you people who come here and answer questions: you're heroes. and with that, I bid you adieu... :)
[20:16] <captainm> compizconfig-settings-manager rufus_
[20:16] <Itaku> Not Found
[20:16] <Itaku> The requested URL /phpmyadmin was not found on this server.
[20:17] <KalEl> rufus_, compizconfig-settings-manager
[20:17] <komputes> xb3rt: so you want software to do that one touch backup?
[20:17] <KalEl> Itaku, reinstall mysql, apache, phpmyadmin
[20:17] <alan_m> without you though coinee, we got nothing to do but twiddle thumbs so you guys are OUR hero's for boredom lol
[20:17] <Itaku> will i lose my stuff?
[20:17] <rufus_> didnt work
[20:17] <Link> can some one tell me what the hell is "evolution-data-server-2.22" ???   his useing the CPU 80-90% all the time
[20:17] <techII> KalEl, unless you have access to modify whatever repository it or wherever that repository gets it from, you could possibly file a bug on launchpad
[20:17] <Itaku> and how do i reinstall?
[20:17] <evilbug> i want to run a shell script in order to start up a Counter-Strike server.i already made the .sh file with all the commands in it,but i can't figure out how to run it.help please.
[20:17] <pisecx> apt-get vs aptitude... what is better to use?
[20:17] <xb3rt> komputes: basically i want it to work just like a usb stick does, and it has worked like that before....but I might need some software to find it
[20:18] <techII> evilbug, chmod +x file.sh
[20:18] <james_n> need help with samba.  linux newbie trying to share a second HD (hdb1) over a network with windows computer.
[20:18] <rufus_> the one where you type ccsm to launch, what is it called in the repos?
[20:18] <mad_goldfish> Is udevd meant to soak up 90% of my cpu?
[20:18] <alan_m> pisecx, apt-get has a tendency of package breakage in my expriences, i love aptitude better.
[20:18] <techII> evilbug, /path/to/script/file.sh
[20:18] <komputes> xb3rt: what happens when you plug it in, does it show up?
[20:18] <aaron_> trying to run a stunnel client running on ubuntu, tried the aptitude package and source... however, It doesn't create a /etc/stunnel dir when I install it, I need to use a .conf file to specify the many different services i need to run through the client... any ideas?
[20:18] <pisecx> alan_m: yep, I heard about such a problem
[20:18] <danand> mad_goldfish - no
[20:19] <xb3rt> komputes: nothing pops up, but its suppose to pick it up just like the laptop picks up a wireless router, it just needs something set that can find it
[20:19] <mad_goldfish> danand, is that the module that handles my USB hard drive?
[20:19] <techII> evilbug, of course, if you are in the same directory as the script "./file.sh" would work
[20:19] <KalEl> Itaku, sorry in my case it was fixed when i reinstalled php5 mysql
[20:19] <techII> or just put it in /usr/local/bin and run it like any other command
[20:20] <poseidon> Is there a default folder for where wallpapers are located?  I am about to download a wallpaper, and I don't want to make a new folder for it if there is already a specified one.  I like to keep my shit neat :)
[20:20] <Itaku> KalEl: do i lose all my stuff and how do i reinstall stuff
[20:20] <evilbug> techII, thanks!
[20:20] <komputes> xb3rt: you have some reading/posting to do - http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6076/
[20:21] <mirak> are there any tool that can check endianess vailidity of C code ?
[20:21] <danand> mad_goldfish - no, udev dynamically handles how all devices are managed... it creates all the files etc under /dev. however, when you plug in a usb drive, udev will create an entry for it in /dev
[20:21] <KalEl> Itaku, you can try reinstalling through the synaptic package manager
[20:21] <nilminus> is there a way i can kill a process with a D flag ?
[20:22] <omar>  commant install kde4 ubuntu
[20:22] <needhelp> now the icon is not closion anymore you rock mate qense :)
[20:22] <komputes> techII: xrdp is still in Beta, any other recommendations?
[20:22] <komputes> Is VNC the only remote desktop server/daemon available through the repositories?
[20:22] <needhelp> closin *
[20:22] <aaron_> no, rdesktop as well
[20:22] <techII> komputes, not that i can think of
[20:23] <james_n> Can someone help me with Samba.  Ive read the documentation on ubuntuguide.org and i am still confused
[20:23] <mad_goldfish> danand, ah OK. Been trying to diagnose two separate problems and was hoping they were linked. My USD HDD doesn't show if it's plugged in on boot, and things have been a bit sluggish recently. Ah well, I'll get back to the forensics. Thanks
[20:23] <techII> komputes, X (the graphical system) is made to work over the network by itself
[20:23] <komputes> techII: I can open x programs through ssh tunnel, but thats not quite "remode desktop" where you are controlling the other's computer UI
[20:23] <comicinker> I have a packaging problem: how can I ensure a certain package (libhid) will be installed, when it is not supported by pkg-config?
[20:23] <nikrud> poseidon gnome doesn't keep wallpapers in a special place, just keeps an index to where it exists.
[20:24] <sarah____> hey guys, i have a question about wireless. Is there a script i can write to autoscan my ssid network and login automatically?
[20:25] <sarah____> because right now, i have to do it manually to connect to the internet
[20:25] <techII> you can run a while desktop, but it isn't really that elegant ( i don't think anyone has made an actual client that drops it into a window, except for xnest (unix only afaik))
[20:25] <danand> mad_goldfish - try looking here for some help... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=168221.
[20:25] <techII> so you are probably stuck with vnc for now...
[20:25] <danand> mad_goldfish - also what is the make and model of your USB HDD?
[20:26] <ere4si> I use vnc and it works good
[20:26] <noodlesgc> sarah____ you could install the waproamd package
[20:26] <mad_goldfish> danand, it's a western digital MyBook 250Gb
[20:26] <sarah____> noodlesgc what is that?
[20:27] <sarah____> my wireless and everything works dandy, except i have to keep typing in my password manually
[20:27] <aaron_> anybody know how to start up a stunnel CLIENT with a stunnel.conf file?
[20:27] <noodlesgc> sarah____ it is a package to automatically connect to open wireless acess points
[20:28] <aaron_> neither google nor forums have yielded me any results... plenty on setting up a server, but not client
[20:28] <hacked_kernel> sarah____: you can scan manually by "iwlist ehtX scan"  then you can make script to do it
[20:28] <j3kyll> stupid question but how do i uninstall things...?
[20:28] <mizu> hello all
[20:28] <sarah____> my package manager link is broking...
[20:29] <sstoveld> j3kyll, applicationd > add/remove?
[20:29] <Adpad> Please can someone help:  For some reason, all my my mounted disks have become READ ONLY (locked).  I was using the diskmounter utility before...  I've cat /etc/fstab to http://paste.stgraber.org/1976
[20:29] <blizzkid> hi all. is there a quick way to download build-essential and dependencies from a windows client? (my ubuntu install has no drivers for nic/wlan AND can't access cd-rom)
[20:29] <sarah____> sudo apt-get install -f
[20:29] <sarah____> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[20:29] <j3kyll> sstoveld
[20:29] <mizu> I JUST successfuly installed my USB TV DVB-T tuner under ubuntu
[20:29] <j3kyll> thanks
[20:29] <noodlesgc> j3kyll sudo apt-get remove package, or make uninstall if compiled from source
[20:29] <j3kyll> thanks all
[20:29] <mizu> can anybody help me with streaming over net ?
[20:30] <yeaha> just heard about M$ Vista brings a new filesystem : "EXFat"   <--- wil lthis be supported ?
[20:30] <Stroganoff> mizu: !ask
[20:30] <techII> mizu, listening/viewing streams, or sending them out?
[20:30] <Toznoshio> bastid_raZor: .doc files with MS Word on top of CrossOver Office, but with a sudo in front of it
[20:30] <patrick_> im using serpentine to burn a cd, i try to drag and drop my files, it says the files are not supported, what do i do?
[20:31] <captainm> Adpad, change all the "ro" options to "rw"
[20:31] <sstoveld> hey guys, when i try to run synaptic package manager to install a new program, i get an error E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[20:31] <sstoveld> E: _cache->open() failed, please report., but when i run that command in a terminal, my computer shuts off and i need to unplug it for 5 seconds before i turn it on or the power wont go on
[20:31] <yeaha> IS EXFAT SUPPORTET????????
[20:31] <noodlesgc> patrick_ use the sound-converter package to convert the files or use a different burner (i recommend gnome-baker)
[20:31] <Stroganoff> blizzkid: the package is included on the ubuntu ISO
[20:32] <james_n> Can someone help me setup samba.  My linux Box is not showing up on my windows computer
[20:32] <blizzkid> Stroganoff: I can't access my cd after installation
[20:32] <Smegzor> is it possible to keep my home partition intact while 'upgrading' to 8.04 from the cd?  i'm on 7.10 now.
[20:33] <patrick_> sstoveld in terminal type "sudo dpkg --configure -a" it may ask for a password, just type it and voula
[20:33] <gregbrady> Is there an irc channel out there for HP Laserjet printers?  I can't seem to print to mine in Ubuntu.
[20:33] <danand> mad_goldfish - k. Just that theres some problems with some makes/models of usb drives ... they spin down they're disks after a certain time has passed by... subsequent IO can then lead to errors since the device is not ready. You can set up your udev rule to run a script to prevent this error though...
[20:34] <sstoveld> patrick_, i tried that, my computer just shut itself off and wouldnt power on til i unplugged it for 5 seconds then plugged it back in
[20:34] <danand> s/they're/their tut
[20:34] <noodlesgc> gregbrady you could try something like #cups or #cupsys
[20:34] <nikrud> Smegzor absolutely. the upgrade is done in place, doesn't affect home at all
[20:34] <gregbrady> noodlesgc, thanks.
[20:35] <nikrud> Smegzor if you're thinking of a fresh install, just do a manual partition and set /home to the right partition and mark it for no formatting
[20:35] <Smegzor> what i really need to hear is, if I tell it where my home is, can I tell it to NOT format /home?
[20:35] <Smegzor> thanks
[20:35] <patrick_> sstoveld restart your terminal and type in "sudo login" type in all passwords required, then manually run "dpkg --configure -a" exactly as i typed it (without quotes)
[20:35] <Stroganoff> blizzkid: create your own repo on USB drive with the necessary packages
[20:35] <Stroganoff> blizzkid: see http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/build-essential for dependencies
[20:35] <Smegzor> i've heard that doing that means I won't need to reinstall all my software.  Is this correct?
[20:36] <nikrud> Smegzor if you do the   upgrade-manager -d , correct. If you do it from a fresh install disk, see !clone following for a shortcut
[20:36] <Smegzor> should I make a backup of /home or since I'm going to tell it NOT to format, is /home safe as er..  houses ;)
[20:36] <nikrud> !clone | Smegzor
[20:36] <ubotu> Smegzor: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate
[20:36] <blizzkid> Stroganoff: I know that way, but that means I'll have to download all dependencies by hand, I'm kind a lazy ;)
[20:36] <KalEl> no text displayed in tracker-search-tool
[20:37] <Stroganoff> blizzkid: you could use AptOnCD if you weren't on windows
[20:37] <Smegzor> thanks
[20:37] <nikrud> Smegzor you mean you don't back up regularly already !!!?
[20:37] <Smegzor> I do but home is >400GB and my backup drive is 250GB
[20:37] <sstoveld> patrick_, when i do that it says dpkg: requested operation requires superuser privilege
[20:37] <Smegzor> I'll have to attack /home with a vacuum cleaner
[20:37] <Smegzor> its fat
[20:37] <sstoveld> patrick_, do i need to put sudo infront of that?
[20:38] <patrick_> noodlesgc is gnome-baker in the ubuntu repositories?
[20:38] <Smegzor> and I don't mean the formatting ;)
[20:38] <blizzkid> Stroganoff: I can't access my cd once in Ubuntu
[20:38] <captainm> sstoveld, yes
[20:38] <mad_goldfish> danand, I don't think that's the problem. So long as I connect the HDD after the login screen appears, it'll happily work for hours, whether it spins down or not. I have a feeling it's an ordering issue in boot or something, but not quite sure. It's annoying certainly
[20:38] <noodlesgc> patrick_ yes
[20:38] <danand> poseidon - bit late but /usr/share/backgrounds/
[20:38] <nikrud> Smegzor I always reinstall , and reuse home. I just triple check that I set the partition for not formatted
[20:38] <Stroganoff> blizzkid: you could copy the repo of the created iso to usb drive
[20:38] <fbc> What do I need to learn to write the equivalent of Batch files(DOS) in ubuntu? I would like to automate some repetative tasks.
[20:38] <Adpad> captainm: thanks for the help, checking it now
[20:38] <patrick_> sstoveld, sudo is just authentication, like when terminal says you need "superuser priveleges"
[20:38] <captainm> sstoveld, A neat trick is doing sudo !!. That'll repeat te last command with sudo
[20:38] <Smegzor> my /home has a complete copy of my old windows pc on it (so I can poke and make fun of it)
[20:38] <patrick_> sorry guys im out
[20:39] <nikrud> fbc  install abs-guide , you will have a pretty decent advanced bash scripting guide at /usr/share/docs/abs-guide
[20:39] <captainm> Smegzor, storage space is cheap ;)
[20:39] <noodlesgc> blizzkid what you could do is select all the packages you want in synaptic, then click generate download script. then get wget for windows at sourceforge, and theoretically you could get the script working on windows
[20:39] <fbc> nikrud, thnks
[20:39] <sstoveld> ok im going to try it again, brb if pc shuts off again
[20:39] <mad_goldfish> doesn't even show in lsusb :-(
[20:39] <nikrud> Smegzor you shouldn't contaminate your system like that
[20:40] <blizzkid> noodlesgc: could you provide me with the download script? I do have wget
[20:40] <blizzkid> just don't feel like rebooting 5 times
[20:40] <Adpad> is there a way to get a specific line you want to repeat to come up in terminal, by starting it and getting and autocompletion??
[20:40] <blizzkid> ;)
[20:40] <nikrud> fbc a typo there:   /usr/share/doc/abs-guide
[20:40] <danand> mad_goldfish - maybe udev runs before the usb stuff is in place?? You could always sudo /etc/init.d/udev restart :)
[20:40] <noodlesgc> blizzkid you have to generate it yourself, of the packages you want
[20:40] <blizzkid> noodlesgc: it's build-essential + dependencies
[20:41] <tole> how do i get the kde desktop on ubuntu 7?
[20:41] <nikrud> Adpad   ctl-r , it's a reverse search thru old commands
[20:41] <danand> mad_goldfish - v annoying though i agree. Bet you wished you'd gone for a NAS drive now ;P
[20:41] <Adpad> thanks
[20:41] <noodlesgc> blizzkid, open synaptic and find build-essential, and mark it for installation. then click file->generate download script.
[20:42] <Traveler3> where Can I find more ABOUT spambots? What kind of spambot forges the "from" header making it look like that it came from yourself?
[20:42] <sstoveld> captainm, computer shut off again when i tried it, any reason why?
[20:42] <blizzkid> noodlesgc: last time I checked, synaptic didn't list build-essential
[20:42] <mad_goldfish> I've had the drive for a while, don't think there were many NAS options at the time. Though I see WD now has a WiFi NAS
[20:42] <captainm> tole, one easy way is to go to synaptic > edit > mark packages by task > kubuntu kde desktop.
[20:42] <nikrud> tole   sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , then you can choose it under options->sessions on the login screen
[20:43] <rinaldi1> tole: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[20:43] <noodlesgc> blizzkid i have used ubuntu for several years and it has always had build-essential
[20:43] <blizzkid> noodlesgc: I swear it wasn't there... must be because I can't use either net nor cd for repo's
[20:44] <tole> ok.thanks.
[20:44] <Smegzor> which program gives a visual representation of files and dirs on my computer?  I want to clear out the fatter unnecessary stuff and it'd be faster if I could see them as fat blobs on my screen.
[20:44] <mad_goldfish> It's not a good sign it's taking *this* long to restart udev, surely?
[20:44] <noodlesgc> blizzkid of course, you need the package lists
[20:44] <nikrud> blizzkid what do you mean? you don't have a cd or net access?
[20:44] <captainm> sstoveld, I have no clue. Sorry
[20:44] <sstoveld> captainm, ok, thanks
[20:44] <sstoveld> ill be back later then, cya guys
[20:44] <blizzkid> nikrud: I don't have net access (no drivers) and when I try to use apt-get with cd, it fails to mount the cd
[20:44] <memian> smgdor: under accesories there must be disk usage solver or something
[20:45] <ethan961> tole, if you want base kde and no kde apps, do 'sudo aptitude install kde-core'
[20:45] <nikrud> blizzkid wow. You made sure that the cd is checked in system->admin->software sources?
[20:45] <danand> noodlesgc -  sudo apt-get --print-uris --yes install PACKAGE | grep ^\' | awk -F\' '{print $2}' > PACKAGE.txt will also generate a list of packages you need. you can then wget -l PACKAGE.txt to get them.
[20:45] <blizzkid> nikrud: the cd is fine, I installed ubuntu from it
[20:45] <noodlesgc> danad yes, but you still need the package lists :)
[20:45] <_Drax> How normal is it to get lower network speeds with SSL enabled and you use the lowest cipher (56bit) 3-4% cpu usage, and get barely 2MB/s, and if I use the highest cipher aes256 (80% cpu usage) I get around 6MB/s ?!!
[20:46] <danand> noodlesgc - think synaptics generates a bash script - no good for windows
[20:46] <nikrud> blizzkid not talking about the quality of the cd, but that it is identified as a source
[20:46] <cookie> hello
[20:46] <danand> noodlesgc - package lists?
[20:46] <cookie> which file should I edit for ftp welcome screen
[20:46] <cookie> motd is just for ssh welcome screen
[20:46] <blizzkid> nikrud: that's exactly the problem, it fails to mount the cd
[20:46] <blizzkid> although it IS mounted
[20:46] <Smegzor> found one!  filelight ^^
[20:47] <noodlesgc> danad when you hit reload or you type sudo apt-get update, apt-get downloads lists of ~23,000 packages. A fresh ubuntu install does not have these lists
[20:47] <Scunizi> ouch.. I just discovered that I have two active mounted swap partitions.. If I unmount one will the system hic-up?
[20:48] <cookie> hello 22:46:51 <cookie> which file should I edit for ftp welcome screen
[20:48] <cookie> 22:46:59 <cookie> motd is just for ssh welcome screen
[20:48] <blizzkid> noodlesgc: isn't there a way to import that list from someone else?
[20:48] <danand> noodlesgc - gotcha ....think theres a way to update those lists with this method ... wait one
[20:49] <captainm> Scunizi, I think the safest method is to boot into a live-cd and remove one swap partition from fstab
[20:49] <cookie> hello guys
[20:49] <noodlesgc> blizzkid theoretically you could get each list file one-by-one. or you could get them off another ubuntu install. but they are online and, so the computer must have internet access to get them
[20:49] <memstat> c0ld : copy the live cd
[20:50] <cookie> What file should I edit for ftp welcome message
[20:50] <cookie> motd is just for ssh
[20:50] <Scunizi> captainm, ok.. thanks.. I had thought of just commenting it out in fstab then rebooting.
[20:50] <tole> ethan961, i want it with all the apps.
[20:50] <pulpfiction> cookie, .welcome?
[20:50] <blizzkid> noodlesgc: and if I mount the iso, is there a way to put that in sources.list?
[20:50] <nikrud> Scunizi set swapoff /dev/device  , then do the unmount and fstab edit
[20:51] <nikrud> Scunizi erm, except for the umount
[20:51] <captainm> Scunizi, that's even better ;) Don't know why I didn't think of that
[20:51] <cookie> pulpfiction: yes...the message that greets you when you connect to the ftp server
[20:51] <Scunizi> nikrud, better!  thanks to both of you.. captainm
[20:51] <noodlesgc> blizzkid the theoretically yeah, but i dont know how
[20:51] <danand> noodlesgc - apt-get --print-uris update. copy unpack and rename the Sources files in /var/lib/apt/lists.
[20:51] <senorpedro> hi folks
[20:52] <Scunizi> nikrud, of course when done.. swapon? /dev/device?
[20:52] <nikrud> Scunizi if you want that one back, yes.
[20:52] <noodlesgc> danand yes that works, but you still need internet
[20:52] <izzy_>  
[20:52] <Scunizi> nikrud, thanks
[20:52] <senorpedro> one question: in my logout menu i have neither a shutdown nor a reboot entry, only hibernate and sleep mode. how can i make the shutdown and also the reboot entry appear??
[20:53] <danand> noodlesgc - yes. You'll need to run wget on a machine with internet access :)
[20:53] <rufus_> how do I run command in ubuntu without a terminal? is it f4 or somethin?
[20:54] <nikrud> rufus_  alt-f2
[20:54] <nikrud> rufus_ gotta be a gui command, mind
[20:54] <rufus_> yeahm compiz
[20:54] <unop> nikrud, gotta?  :)
[20:54] <unop> are you sure? :>
[20:55] <nikrud> unop well, for all normal user purposes yes ;p
[20:55] <unop> nikrud, well, isn't "sudo updatedb" for normal user purposes? :p
[20:55] <spotter> anyone have an idea on how to disable touchpad in X when using w/ a real mouse?
[20:55] <ktheory> Hi there. I'm trying to get eth0 to show up on an i386 (Dell XPS 410) in Ubuntu 6.06 LTS...
[20:55] <ktheory> I just did a clean install, and running ifconfig only show lo, no eth0 :-(
[20:55] <ktheory> When I run lspci, I see "Ethernet Controller: Intel Corporation: Unknow device 104b (rev2)".
[20:55] <ktheory> I tried installing the e1000 and e100 kernel modules (sudo modprobe e1000; sudo modprobe e100), but running lspci still shows the Ethernet Controller as an "unknown device", and ifconfig only show the loopback interface.
[20:55] <ktheory> Note that the network card used to work in ubuntu 7.10, but we'd like to run 6.06 on this machine (a staging machine) since we're running 6.06 on our production servers
[20:55] <izzy_>  
[20:55] <FloodBot3> ktheory: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:55] <ktheory> Any ideas?
[20:55] <pulpfiction> cookie, i meant, isn't there a file named .welcome?
[20:55] <nikrud> unop nah, that's an admin function :)
[20:55] <captainm> senorpedro, have you installed kde by any chance?
[20:56] <fbc> In dos the command line parameters were $1 $2.. and so on. what are they in BASH?
[20:56] <g0th> hi
[20:56] <nikrud> unop but, let me see you run sudo updatedb from alt-f2 (using gksudo something just before is cheating)
[20:56] <rufus_> i enabled wobbly windows, theyre not working
[20:56] <gpm> fbc: not $1?
[20:56] <poseidon> does ubuntu come with git repository?
[20:56] <unop> nikrud, ohh, i dont have an alt+f2 .. which is why i was asking ;)
[20:57] <Seveas> !info git | poseidon
[20:57] <fbc> gpm,  I haven't tried...
[20:57] <unop> fbc, they are $1 $2 in bash -- and iirc, they are %1 %2 etc in dos
[20:57] <gpm> fbc: that's the best way to learn
[20:57] <g0th> Right now firefox seems to be completely frozen and the firefox window looks all grey (including the window decoration). I'm running compiz 3d desktop. Any ideas about what is going on or how to fix it? This happens quite often....
[20:57] <gpm> fbc: yeah, i am pretty sure they are $1...
[20:57] <fbc> unop, oh,, yeah htat's right
[20:57] <gpm> g0th: killall firefox-bin
[20:57] <fbc> unop, been so long I had forgotten..
[20:57] <gpm> g0th: it is frozen
[20:58] <g0th> I have to correct myself: the window has a "grey touch" but it is not all grey
[20:58] <senorpedro> captainm, yes, of course
[20:58] <g0th> gpm: yes I know but then my download is broken
[20:58] <gpm> g0th: the program froze
[20:58] <g0th> gpm: hmm when does this happen?
[20:58] <unop__> fbc, they are $1 $2 in bash -- and iirc, they are %1 %2 etc in dos
[20:58] <gpm> g0th: so restart it...
[20:58] <El1> Hi guys, recently my system has been running stuck quite often, and I was wondering if there was a way to make ubuntu log every important thing that happens so I can find out what's causing the hangups
[20:58] <captainm> senorpedro, and gnome?
[20:58] <senorpedro> in fact, i'm running kubuntu with ubuntu-desktop separately installed
[20:58] <g0th> gpm: it happens all the time is that normal?
[20:58] <captainm> senorpedro, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=416887&highlight=kdm+gdm try post #3
[20:58] <neopsyche>  can anyone tell me how to create a shortcut for a program ?
[20:58] <memian> goth: it happens to me sometimes, i'm suspicios of non-free-flush plugin
[20:58] <gpm> g0th: no, it isn't.
[20:59] <g0th> hmm ok that's probably it
[20:59] <kindofabuzz_> what's the command to view all users?
[20:59] <senorpedro> captainm, thx sir, you're a true hero ;)
[20:59] <unop__> neopsyche, where do you want the shortcut?
[20:59] <g0th> it usually happens when I view veoh movies
[20:59] <Xang> kindofabuzz: who
[20:59] <Scunizi> kindofabuzz_, who
[20:59] <dnyy> i got disconnected, did anyone answer my question? :X
[20:59] <gpm> what are veoh movies?
[20:59] <fourthdimension> neopsyche, drag the program into the terminal, then paste that command into a new launcher
[20:59] <kindofabuzz_> oh ok
[20:59] <cyclonut> does anyone here play world of warcraft?
[20:59] <gpm> !anyone
[20:59] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[20:59] <cyclonut> and if so, did the 2.4 patch cripple performance?
[20:59] <googlah> hello all, anyone know where to download the alpha 6 release? :p
[20:59] <El1> lol gpm
[20:59] <kindofabuzz_> no i mean all users? not just users loged on
[20:59] <gpm> El1: indeed
[20:59] <Xang> kindofabuzz: more /etc/passwd
[21:00] <gpm> o/o all
[21:00] <azexian> cyclonut:  yep
[21:00] <neopsyche> unop__ i want the shortcut on my top bar on gnome
[21:00] <fourthdimension> drag the shortcut up there
[21:00] <madman91> hey guys
[21:00] <g0th> gpm: flash movies on www.veoh.com
[21:00] <fourthdimension> or "add launcher to panel"
[21:00] <madman91> is it possible to have multiple filesystems on one partition?
[21:00] <cyclonut> Azexian - so its not just me.
[21:00] <El1> Is there any way how I can log whatever's being printed in the main terminal? (the one on alt+ctrl+F1)
[21:00] <sarah____> hey guys, is it possible to setup my own pop3 email account on ubuntu?
[21:01] <unop_> madman91, err, no
[21:01] <neopsyche> its ok..
[21:01] <neopsyche> thanks guys
[21:01] <fourthdimension> use ">> logname.txt"
[21:01] <neopsyche> i figured out how to make a launcher :-)
[21:01] <captainm> googlah, the Beta is here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=416887&highlight=kdm+gdm (and #ubuntu+1 is meant for questions about is ;))
[21:01] <fourthdimension> that'll output the screen to a logfile
[21:01] <cyclonut> azexian, that is a relief - I dropped massively. do you think a new wine will fix it, or will we need another patch from WoW?
[21:01] <El1> ok fourth
[21:01] <memian> madman91: you can define a loop back device, like one file holding all file tree
[21:01] <g0th> mdaman91: truecrypt allows a hidden filesystem eg
[21:01] <El1> thx for the info
[21:01] <fourthdimension> no problem
[21:01] <captainm> googlah, http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.10/ is the right link
[21:01] <madman91> g0th: yeah, if truecrypt does it, can i?
[21:01] <madman91> memian: ?
[21:01] <azexian> cyclonut: I played it with both cedega and wine back in the day, and found wine to be the better one, do you mean your framerate has dropped?
[21:01] <g0th> well there are other projects
[21:01] <madman91> brb
[21:02] <g0th> but why not simply create a file and mount it loopback?
[21:02] <pulpfiction> is there any better gui tool to test regexp than "visual regexp"?
[21:02] <cyclonut> azexian, aye, framerate took a 20% hit from the last patch they just released
[21:02] <pulpfiction> nothing wrong with it, just wondering if there's anything newer
[21:02] <googlah> captainm: thanks, but i was looking for hardy. 8)
[21:02] <fourthdimension> lol
[21:02] <fourthdimension> it's right on the homepage
[21:03] <memian> madman91: you can make a file, say disk.ext2 on ext3 filesystem. and mount disk.ext2 as another dirctory.
[21:03] <captainm> googlah, whoops, haven't read the site
[21:03] <azexian> cyclonut: that's unfortunate, have you tweaked it at all? I found that playing with things such as video settings (using the add-on to allow you to do this without scrash) I could get a fair framerate
[21:03] <googlah> lol, i thought it was a banner fourthdimension. :)
[21:03] <cyclonut> azexian, granted, 20% on my machine is only about 5fps. It changes the gameplay from tolerable to torturous
[21:03] <fourthdimension> :)
[21:03] <Itaku> how do i symlink
[21:03] <madman91> memian: but can i filesystem it?
[21:03] <cyclonut> azexian, I'll look for that add-on. However, with this new patch (and latest wine) you can adjust things without crashes :)
[21:03] <azexian> cyclonut: well there is a lot of tweaks you can do to make that go up, or it could be the last patch just reset your video settings?
[21:04] <cyclonut> azexian, in-game settings are the same. Perhaps my custom settings in config.wtf got nuked
[21:04] <jhoward> hi
[21:04] <Goliath23> hi.
[21:04] <jhoward> where is the "Ubuntu Device Manager"
[21:04] <hacked_kernel> Itaku: "ln",  try "man ln"
[21:04] <fourthdimension> googlah, here's the link: http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/8.04/
[21:04] <jhoward> it used to be in System > Administration in the former releases
[21:04] <googlah> any improvements on 8.04 than 7.10, you think? yeah, i found it
[21:05] <Goliath23> I just received a notice about ending support in dapper (6.10) .. so I followed the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades
[21:05] <fourthdimension> thought you would.
[21:05] <Goliath23> but sudo do-release-upgrade gives: No new release found
[21:05] <FYI> I need to create an ERD/ERM... any programs for linux?
[21:05] <Flare183> !hardy | Goliath23
[21:05] <ubotu> Goliath23: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[21:05] <unop_> jhoward, alt+f2 -- type in hal-device-manager
[21:05] <fourthdimension> that's  abig jump from 6.10.  i'd just do a clean install
[21:05] <FYI> should i just do it by hand w/ OO.org draw
[21:06] <Goliath23> Flare183: I have a dapper server system here...
[21:06] <memian> madman91: hmm, i guess i don't really understand your need. but let's say you have an ext3 filesystem on one partition. and you want to try reiserFS without changing disk records. you can make one file on ext3 filesystem. and mount that file as a disk (loop back device) on let's say /mnt/reiser. you can google for loop back device for more information.
[21:06] <unop_> FYI, what are ERD/ERM -- not all of us are bright, you know? :)
[21:06] <FYI> entity relationship diagram/model
[21:06] <WindowSmasher> !slab
[21:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about slab - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:06] <FYI> unop_^^
[21:07] <cyka> hey am trying to get a game called soul reaver going via wine
[21:07] <cyka> any ideas?
[21:07] <WindowSmasher> Can anyone assist me in getting the search feature into the slab-gnome-menu?
[21:07] <Goliath23> oh, actually dapper is 6.06
[21:07] <Scunizi> cyka, try #winehq
[21:07] <Goliath23> so I have 6.06 here
[21:07] <Flare183> !edgy | Goliath23
[21:07] <jhoward> where is the "Ubuntu Device Manager"
[21:07] <ubotu> Goliath23: Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) was the fifth release of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/6.10/ - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes
[21:07] <unop_> FYI, you can use dia -- it draws diagrams that can help -- might be very suitable for complex entity relationships -- have a look
[21:08] <Goliath23> I guess 6.04 continues to be supported then, since it's LTS
[21:08] <Flare183> Goliath23: yes that is correct
[21:08] <FYI> unop_:thanks, I will look into that
[21:08] <Goliath23> okay, fine!
[21:08] <unop_> jhoward, alt+f2 -- type in hal-device-manager
[21:08] <unop_> jhoward, ^^ that is the device manager used by gnome
[21:08] <fourthdimension> goliath, I'd still upgrade.  lots of good stuff in the newer releases that'll make it worth your while
[21:09] <madman91> thanks memian
[21:09] <jhoward> unop_: thanks
[21:09] <deagle> hello all
[21:09]  * deagle waves
[21:09] <memian> madman91: ur wellcome
[21:09]  * fourthdimension waves back
[21:09] <deagle> :D
[21:09] <z1o> my eyes!dddd
[21:09] <jhoward> unop_: why i can't find it under the menus
[21:09] <deagle> help :{
[21:09] <z1o> x
[21:10] <jhoward> unop_: any idea why ubuntu developers removed it from the menus?
[21:10] <deagle> grub gave me error 17, now error 18
[21:10] <unop_> jhoward, you can -- but i am not sure where it is exactly as i dont use gnome
[21:10] <deagle> error is growing up :(
[21:10] <fourthdimension> can you still boot?
[21:10] <Malik_> can some1 help me!!
[21:11] <Malik_> my ubuntu installation keeps freezing
[21:11] <oxigen> is Ubuntu Brainstorm available for download like is MediaWiki?
[21:11] <jhoward> unop_: you're right its been moved to system>preferences and its renames to Hardware Information
[21:11] <fourthdimension> what's your setup, malik?
[21:11]  * deagle hands Malik_ a torch
[21:11] <Malik_> setup?
[21:11] <fourthdimension> yeah.  hardware, etc
[21:11] <jhoward> s/renames/renamed
[21:11] <Malik_> i got a dell optoplex gx280
[21:11] <Malik_> mite hav been couztomzed by my dad
[21:12] <fourthdimension> be back in a few hrs.  hope the others fix your problem.
[21:12] <fourthdimension> sry
[21:12] <Malik_> wait
[21:12] <deagle> =\
[21:12] <Malik_> can some1 els help me out
[21:12] <HopsNBarley>  can anybody help me get rid of the prompt for netcfg/get_hostname in a 7.10 install?  i've even got partitioning working with preseed, but can't get rid of this!
[21:12] <Peter-> Hi, Could someone help me with urban terror?
[21:13] <captainm> deagle, Try creating a boot partition at the beginning of the disk.
[21:13] <un0p> jhoward, see this -- http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1021/1154642079_bc465355bb.jpg
[21:13] <captainm> deagle, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/grub-error-18-cannot-install-linux-after-vista-had-been-installed-626344/
[21:13] <oxigen> is Ubuntu Brainstorm available for download like is MediaWiki?
[21:13] <jhoward> un0p: ok
[21:13] <amenado> HopsNBarley-> does it not just time out anyways?
[21:13] <poseidon> How do I edit the appearance of the menus, etc?  I don't want everything to be brownish orange, I prefer more of a blue.  Is there a way I can do this?
[21:14] <un0p> oxigen, i wonder why you'd want an offline collection of that?
[21:14] <oxigen> un0p: for a different project
[21:14] <deagle> captainm: but i had grub setup (hd0,0)
[21:14] <j85wilson> Ok, so I wanted some packages that are available in Sid, but not in ubuntu.  I added the sid repos to my sources.list, and installed the packages and their dependencies.  I no longer want them.  Having removed the sid repos, is there an easy way to revert all installed packages to the latest version available from the ubuntu repos, and remove those that are not available at all?
[21:14] <captainm> poseidon, system > appearance and www.gnome-look.org
[21:14] <danand> poseidon - System -> Preferences -> Appearances - then themes tab
[21:15] <deagle> captainm: that when it used to give me error 17, now after moving the linux partition to hd0 instead of hd1 is when i get error 18 :S
[21:15] <Xang> poseidon: System->Preferences-.Appearances.
[21:15] <HopsNBarley> amenado, i haven't waited very long (-;   what timeout should i expect?
[21:15] <un0p> oxigen, hmm, not really sure
[21:15] <Malik_> my ubuntu installation keeps freezing
[21:15] <Peter-> No-one cant help me on Urban Terror problem?
[21:15] <amenado> HopsNBarley-> on a regular stock install, umm about 10 mins
[21:15] <captainm> deagle, hd0 is bigger then than hd1 isn't it?
[21:15] <tomytvout> hi all i am tryin to have picture from pc to tv i am readin google but i can not get it to work any help
[21:16] <deagle> captainm: both 250gb
[21:16] <Leechzilla> I type sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start but nothing happens. It just takes me to the next prompt without doing anything
[21:16] <un0p> j85wilson, that was a really stupid thing to do -- there is no easy way out of this but to reinstall
[21:16] <HopsNBarley> amenado, ouch.
[21:16] <artenius2> I had to reboot earlier after a 7days up and now when I boot into ubuntu my resolution is horrible (640X350) and it won't let me change it. Any ideas what caused this or how I can fix it?
[21:16] <amenado> HopsNBarley-> how about also trying netcfg/disable_dhcp=true ?
[21:16] <AnthraxDream> How I get sound?
[21:16] <amenado> then you use a static ip address
[21:16] <deagle> captainm: xp in hda1 (now apparently lost after trying to install again on a different partition)
[21:17] <fourthdimension> malik, did you get your problem fixed?
[21:17] <j85wilson> un0p: I doubt that... if nothing else, I can write a script to go over all the packages, check for the current available version, and compare it to the installed version, and take appropriate action.  I just wanted to know if apt could do this automagically.
[21:17] <captainm> deagle, error 18 means that the BIOS is unable to start executing the kernel because the kernel is not located within the block it can access at boot up time.
[21:17] <HopsNBarley> amenado, i'm setting up an install network where we will want to do several boxes at once.
[21:17] <Xang> artenius2: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[21:17] <neopsyche> when a guide tells me to 'uncomment' a line .. does that mean remove the HASH symbol?
[21:17] <tomytvout> hi all i am tryin to have picture from pc to tv i am readin google but i can not get it to work any help
[21:18] <un0p> j85wilson, ubuntu is not debian and the inverse is also true -- you could try reinstalling all the installed packages with something like this -- sudo apt-get install --reinstall $(dpkg -l | cut -c 3-30)
[21:18] <captainm> deagle, so making a boot partition at the beginning of the disk is the best option.
[21:18] <kesi> hi all, silly question but it's driving me nuts.  I am working with an external drive and in the terminal window everything is highlighted in bright green so I can barely read it.  Any way to turn this off?
[21:18] <FreeNod1> hi is there an ubuntu server channel?
[21:18] <amenado> HopsNBarley-> okay, and what issues are you having?
[21:18] <deagle> captainm: which would mean data loss? :( which tool is it for recreating partitions without losing data that i can run off of live cd?
[21:18] <deagle> captainm: it's been a while since i used linux :(
[21:19] <Xang> kesi: What terminal are you using?
[21:19] <amenado> FreeNod1-> what issues are coming across?
[21:19] <gumpish> gparted can resize some kinds of partitions...
[21:19] <HopsNBarley> amenado, I can't get rid of the "configure the network" -> "please enter the hostname for this system" dialog box.
[21:19] <propdude2000> deagle: that tool would be gparted. it runs off a live cd
[21:19] <un0p> j85wilson, and don't count on the version numbers to ascertain whether they belong to ubuntu or debian -- you can have a package with the same version in both but the contents could be different
[21:19] <deagle> captainm: or better yet, how can i burn a cd from within live cd?
[21:19] <artenius2> Xang, any idea what would cause this?
[21:19] <Leechzilla> I type sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start but nothing happens. It just takes me to the next prompt without doing anything
[21:19] <kesi> Xang, I think it's the default Gnome Terminal prog
[21:19] <AnthraxDream> HOW FOR TO GET SOUND?!
[21:19] <AnthraxDream> Sorry caps lock
[21:19] <tomytvout> hi all i am tryin to have picture from pc to tv i am readin google but i can not get it to work any help
[21:19] <kesi> Xang, but I can't find any setting under appearance or prefs to turn this off
[21:20] <Xang> kesi: You could always try and export a different term type.
[21:20] <Xang> kesi: export TERM=vt100
[21:20] <captainm> deagle, do you have two cd drives?
[21:20] <deagle> lol
[21:20] <tripps> ok since last reboot, my sd card on my shittle no longer works. could someone help me diagnose?
[21:20] <terminal> when i open windows partition in ubuntu i got error d folder content coulldnot b displayed
[21:20] <Gupp> hrm i have a problem with ubuntu 7.10 jeos that i cant enable eth0 for some weird reason
[21:20] <tripps> s/shit/shut ;)
[21:20] <captainm> deagle, you could maka a bootable flashdrive and burn a cd from that
[21:20] <bastid_raZor> !sound > AnthraxDream
[21:20] <deagle> captainm: that's what i was thinking of. installing the spare cd burner i have
[21:20] <kesi> Xang, I may be dumb, but that didn't do anything.. was there more I needed to do?
[21:21] <amenado> HopsNBarley-> i have not done a major rollout like yours, but i would think the oem-install script has those configuration for setting a temp hostname and modifiable upon user logging on?
[21:21] <terminal> when i open windows partition in ubuntu i got error d folder content coulldnot b displayed
[21:21] <Xang> kesi: Now try whatever command you were using..ex. ls,
[21:21] <j85wilson> un0p: since it is only a few packages, I'm not nearly as worried as you seem to be...
[21:21] <kesi> Xang, same thing
[21:21] <deagle> captainm: tell me something, does the new 8.04b installer lose data when adjusting withing the free space of a partition?
[21:21] <yeonhoo_> how can I treat ESC key ?? i want to press ESC key and print ESC key in DEC form
[21:21] <terminal> when i open windows partition in ubuntu i got error d folder content coulldnot b displayed
[21:21] <Lokii-> terminal, your not using samba i hope ?
[21:21] <j85wilson> I'm nearly certain that all the version numbers did change, and nothing I upgraded to sid packages is essential stuff
[21:22] <Lokii-> samba == the suck
[21:22] <deagle> captainm: the second install i did seems to have corrupted my C drive (ntfs) when i resized it to fit ext3 within its free space
[21:22] <HopsNBarley> amenado, i'm attempting this through a preseed file.
[21:22] <terminal> lokii, r u mean samba is not working
[21:22] <kesi> Xang, it's true on my windwos partition as well if that helps
[21:22] <Lokii-> i mean samba has a son
[21:22] <yeonhoo_> how can I treat ESC key ?? i want to press ESC key and print ESC key in DEC form. but its not working. when I press ESC key, system does not recognize as valid key i think
[21:22] <FreeNod1> hi anybody tried a remote desktop
[21:22] <un0p> j85wilson, i'm not worried -- you should be, if you should have any troubles from here on, it's going to be a tough life troubleshooting them -- and the official verdict is that support ceases to exist once you have done something like that
[21:22] <Lokii-> and its much better
[21:22] <FreeNod1> ????
[21:22] <yeonhoo_> what I have to do?
[21:22] <HopsNBarley> there is tons of documentation on how to do this, it is just not working - only the hostname - for me.
[21:23] <un0p> !debian | j85wilson
[21:23] <ubotu> j85wilson: Ubuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship - Remember, !repositories meant for Debian should NOT be used on Ubuntu!
[21:23] <Gupp> hrm i have a problem with ubuntu 7.10 jeos that i cant enable eth0 for some weird reason
[21:23] <FreeNod1> FreeNod1 :(
[21:23] <captainm> deagle, dataloss shouldn't happen. You can make a seperate boot partition without data-loss
[21:23] <captainm> deagle, there are some good tutorials around.
[21:23] <terminal> lokii, solution plzzzzz
[21:23] <FreeNod1> darksky0 lol
[21:23] <j85wilson> thanks, un0p.  I know this.  Once again, nothing essential was touched, only a few packages, some rather esoteric programs and their supporting libraries.
[21:24] <Lokii-> freenod1 you mean using rdp protocal to control a linux desktop  in the same manner that you would a windows serve r?
[21:24] <terminal> lokii, solution plzzzzz
[21:24] <FreeNod1> Lokii-: yes!! :D
[21:24] <amenado> HopsNBarley->  d-i netcfg/get_hostname string unassigned-hostname
[21:24] <amenado>   and d-i netcfg/get_domain string unassigned-domain  dont work for you?
[21:24] <Lokii-> terminal i read it the first time please be patient
[21:25] <deagle> captainm: thanks for your help bro, gparted is kinda guiding me around a bit
[21:25] <ompaul> Lokii-, sounds like a job for krdc
[21:25] <terminal> lokii, k
[21:25] <FreeNod1> Lokii-: ^^''
[21:25] <Xang> kesi: Have you tried editing your current profile?
[21:25] <deagle> captainm: if there's anything you need...
[21:25] <captainm> http://wiki.debianhelp.org/pmwiki.php/DebianAnatomy/BootDir deagle
[21:25] <yowshi> i am tyring to add an ntfs hard drive to fstab to mount in home-data what would i have to add in fstab to make this happen
[21:25] <Lokii-> never knew about that package
[21:25] <Lokii-> will have to check that project* out
[21:25] <HopsNBarley> amenado, well, *sorta* - they chosen string shows up in the dialog box, but i still ahve to select it - so my install is not automatic.
[21:26] <Xang> Kesi: Edit Current Profile -> Colors tab.
[21:26] <amenado> yowshi-> have you tried to google for such task? ntfs + fstab + ubuntu ?
[21:26] <sourcemaker> can I use a encrypted file system for more then 1 partition? How does it work when starting kubuntu? Will I be asked for more then 2 passphrase?
[21:26] <Lokii-> terminal
[21:26] <Lokii-> check out cifs
[21:26] <yowshi> yeah there was a walkthrough but i had alot of trouble following it
[21:26] <numus> is anyone good at ubuntu and dell laptops? i am havi
[21:26] <yowshi> or even knowing if it applied to my situation
[21:26] <numus> i am having a huge problem with the ati radeon x1400..
[21:26] <FreeNod1> Lokii-:  are you talking with me?
[21:27] <Lokii-> linux ++ ati don't mix well
[21:27] <Lokii-> freenod1 no
[21:27] <xopher> anyone here with an ALC850 and working surround/LFE sound?
[21:27] <Lokii-> was talking to terminal
[21:27] <Lokii-> xopher
[21:27] <Lokii-> me
[21:27] <kindofabuzz_> will someone connect to ftp://kindofabuzz.homelinux.net/ user: ftp paswword: pass port 21  and let me know if it works, and hack it if you can and let me know about any security flaws?
[21:27] <numus> lokii i know that but there is suppose to be a way to make it just fine
[21:27] <Lokii-> i am using the 6channel direct jacks though
[21:27] <yowshi> amenado: yeah there was a walkthrough but i had alot of trouble following it, or even knowing if it applied to my situation
[21:27] <Lokii-> i couldn't get the optical working
[21:27] <numus> because compiz wont run without the drivers loaded
[21:28] <xopher> Lokii-, right, well that's exactly what I want to use too, so could you help me out? or like, troubleshoot me? :P
[21:28] <terminal> lokii, i cant understand
[21:28] <FreeNod1> Lokii-: oh sorry... :) anyways do you know what I should do with the RDP?
[21:28] <Lokii-> !cifs | terminal
[21:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cifs - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:28] <amenado> yowshi-> which part are you getting confused about? maybe you can narrow it down to that specific area?
[21:28] <xopher> The front speakers are the only speakers I get any sound from, and that too only when run in 'duplicate mode'
[21:28] <tole> i keep trying to install kubuntu desktop on my ubuntu 7.10,but it keeps sayin the package could not be found.what do i do?
[21:28] <deagle> captainm: wait, so according to this wiki, if I set the hdd to LBA in the BIOS i should be able to boot up right?
[21:29] <artenius2> can someone explain to me why my resolution is broke?
[21:29] <numus> linux doesn't seem to run well with nvidia either.. atleast pny video cards which are nvidia
[21:29] <deagle> artenius2: Ctrl+Alt+Backspace
[21:29] <max_periculosus> eyo
[21:29] <eternal_p> numus: I have an nvidia card, works perfectly
[21:29] <deagle> artenius2: wait no!
[21:29] <numus> eternal_p tell that to my pny video card
[21:29] <deagle> artenius2: Ctrl+Alt+(the plus or minus sign on the keypad)
[21:29] <deagle> artenius2: keypad = numpad
[21:30] <yowshi> !ntfs
[21:30] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE
[21:30] <Lokii-> numus i have had nothing but flawlessness with nvidia and lionux
[21:30] <Lokii-> -o
[21:30] <un0p> tole, enable all the standard ubuntu respositories, update your package list and then try installing kubuntu-desktop again
[21:30] <terminal> lokii, cifs eight bash:cifs:command not found
[21:30] <numus> lokii is there anyone who sucessfully has used ati well or no
[21:30] <gregbrady> How can one copy a DVD to Hard Drive?
[21:30] <salah> Any idea how I can make .php files run as PHP with Apache? My web browser asks for downloading the PHP files when I visit them. I use Ubuntu 7.10
[21:30] <hischild> numus, yes i've been successful in running an ATI Radeon X1300 512Mb
[21:30] <amenado> HopsNBarley-> how are you specifying the preseed file during install?
[21:30] <artenius2> deagle, that has no effect
[21:30] <captainm> deagle, It's worth a try.
[21:30] <salah> With apache 2.2
[21:30] <yowshi> amenado: the walkthrough there that ubotu sends me. i dont eve n know if it is for my situation
[21:31] <Lokii-> terminal are you running ubunty 7.10 gfutsy gibbon ?
[21:31] <numus> hischild that is pretty much like the x1400.. h ow did you do it
[21:31] <max_periculosus> hey, anyone have experience with win? i can't get it to start at all...i installed with synaptic and Configure Win does nothing
[21:31] <amenado> yowshi-> you have to know, you have to try, giving up will not get you anywhere
[21:31] <max_periculosus> wine*
[21:31] <max_periculosus> not win
[21:31] <yowshi> amenado: yes i am not giving up i am asking for help arent i
[21:31] <norty> I just installed compiz, I've made some changed but I dont see them working, do I have to restart?
[21:31] <terminal> lokii, gutsy
[21:31] <hischild> numus, i installed the fglrx drivers (aka the restricted drivers) and it worked. Driver in xorg should be fglrx. What is the problem you're having?
[21:31] <terminal> 7.10
[21:31] <amenado> yowshi-> ok, so which part are you stuck?
[21:32] <terminal> lokii, gutsy 7.10
[21:32] <caesa1> help! I changed my screen resolution to 1280*1024 upsidedown in Hardy Heron, and now all I can see is the mouse. How do I change the resolution in a different init?
[21:32] <xopher> Lokii-, did you see my last line? My front speakers are the only ones I can get sound from, what do I need to do? ツ
[21:32] <yowshi> amenado: though actually telling me the lines and commands and not just giving me a script to download form someplace would be helpful
[21:32] <deagle> gregbrady: http://www.linux-magazine.com/w3/issue/69/Command_Line_dd_and_mkisofs.pdf
[21:32] <numus> hischild the resolution wont go to 1680x1050 no matter what i do to xorg or any other settings.. and compizfusion wont run
[21:32] <artenius2> all I did was reboot and now it;s running in a horrible resolution, and there are no other choices but this one
[21:32] <Lokii-> terminal, append your fstab with lines like this: //192.168.0.194/SharedDocs /media/winshare cifs guest,uid=1000,iocharset=utf8,codepage=unicode,unicode  0  0
[21:32] <Lokii-> and share it on your windows machine
[21:32] <Lokii-> save the fstab
[21:32] <Lokii-> and mount -a
[21:32] <amenado> yowshi-> it is helpful for you to also understand scripting, so learn scripting at same time
[21:32] <kindofabuzz_> will someone connect to ftp://kindofabuzz.homelinux.net/ user: ftp paswword: pass port 21  and let me know if it works, and hack it if you can and let me know about any security flaws?
[21:33] <numus> hischild can i pm you?
[21:33] <AnthraxDream> fix my sound?
[21:33] <hischild> numus, alright, compiz is a secondary goal, first the resolution has to be fixed. Have you specified a maximum resolution in xorg.conf?
[21:33] <un0p> !ot | kindofabuzz_
[21:33] <ubotu> kindofabuzz_: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[21:33] <hischild> numus, i'd rather keep it in the public channel.
[21:33] <numus> hischild give me a second.. i am booting into vista right now.. let me switch over to ubuntu
[21:33] <un0p> salah, http://tinyurl.com/2bn4qd
[21:33] <Lokii-> xopher i read what you said i never had to fuck with mine at all
[21:33] <yowshi> amenado: *face palms as obviously he isnt going to get help at the moment*
[21:33] <kindofabuzz_> that's not offtopic, it's using an ubuntu server
[21:33] <garferi> Hi All!
[21:33] <hischild> numus, ok i'll be here when you get back.
[21:33] <Lokii-> just worked perfectly
[21:33] <amenado> yowshi-> it is up to you to learn things, no one here has the time to hand hold you and explain to you every detail
[21:33] <deagle> captainm: wish me luck
[21:33] <gregbrady> deagle, there is no graphical version?
[21:34] <Leechzilla> I type sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start but nothing happens. It just takes me to the next prompt without doing anything
[21:34] <HopsNBarley> amenado, via the pxelinux default kernel command line - i know this works cause i'm getting my partitioning, etc.
[21:34] <tole> un0p, the updating of the package list..does it happen online?
[21:34] <captainm> Good luck deagle!
[21:34] <Gupp> someone knows how to change mac address so eth0 will be recognized?  becouse now it is different from  the .vmx, or is the change generated to static enough?
[21:34] <amenado> yowshi-> lest you showed your effort of following the tutorial, you are not getting much help ..
[21:34] <norty> Question: I just installed compiz, I've made some changed but I dont see them working, do I have to restart?
[21:34] <un0p> tole, have you enabled all the repositories?
[21:34] <yowshi> amenado: if the HOWTO isnt helpful then obviously i have no other choice but to ask somewhere else. well this is somewhere else amd i am asking
[21:34] <amenado> HopsNBarley-> but how exactly? what options did you put in the command line?
[21:34] <artenius2> so, no one can tell me why this my resolution is messed up all of a sudden?
[21:34]  * Lokii- runs away too many diff people talking
[21:34] <tole> un0p, umm...i'm in suse 10.3 ryt now as i dont know how to get irc in ubuntu.where is it located?
[21:35] <AnthraxDream> Can someone fix me?
[21:35] <garferi> norty, you dont have to restart just if you now installed the video card drivers
[21:35] <bastid_raZor> artenius; for hardy issues try #ubuntu+1
[21:35] <AnthraxDream> I need sound.
[21:35] <AnthraxDream> :'(
[21:35] <yowshi> amenado: i cant follow the god damned tutorial. i get lost somewhere shortly after fdisk -l
[21:35] <amenado> yowshi-> follow it trhough, then ask were you get stucked, you dont try, you dont know what the system response is
[21:35] <artenius2> I'm un gutsy
[21:35] <artenius2> in
[21:35] <hischild> is there an easier way to backup an entire /home when it's not on a seperate partition?
[21:35] <hischild> !language | yowshi
[21:35] <ubotu> yowshi: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[21:35] <norty> garferi, then how do I get it to work?
[21:35] <AnthraxDream> !language ubotu
[21:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about language ubotu - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:35] <bastid_raZor> !sound
[21:35] <un0p> tole, pidgin (previously known as gaim) is installed by default -- and it supports irc
[21:35] <yowshi> amenado: yeah sure i can fdisk -l and get the lisk of disks i have but it isnt telling me what to add to the fragging fstab. it goes on to give other crap for paragraphs on end. i cant find the data relevent to me
[21:35] <garferi> norty, which video card do you have?
[21:36] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[21:36] <AnthraxDream> !players
[21:36] <istredd> norty: what graphic card you have?
[21:36] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs
[21:36] <norty> nvidia geforce 6800 gt
[21:36] <norty> ^
[21:36] <artenius2> all I want to do is get back into my normal resolution
[21:36] <artenius2> I didn't change anything
[21:36] <amenado> yowshi-> calm down if you want help, tell me what you have does as suggested by the tutorial?
[21:36] <un0p> !res | artenius2
[21:36] <ubotu> artenius2: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[21:36] <Lokii-> nvidia 6800 gt same as mine
[21:36] <Lokii-> flawless it is
[21:37] <tole> un0p, ok.let me log into my ubuntu and you can help me from there.
[21:37] <amenado> done*
[21:37] <guestbuntu55> Hi
[21:37] <guestbuntu55> Can someone hlep me?
[21:37] <HopsNBarley> amenado, url=http://blah
[21:37] <gregbrady> deagle, nothing as easy as DVD Shrink?
[21:37] <captainm> Gupp, ifconfig <interface> hw <class> <address>
[21:37] <artenius2> loki, mine has been flawless for the last 2 weeks, now it's broke
[21:37] <istredd> norty: in preferences you have property drivers manager (or something, I have polish version)
[21:37] <yowshi> i have done the fdisk -l and the sudo gedit and i am ready to edit the fstab
[21:37] <hischild> Lokii-, that also depends on the rest of the hardware and there also seems a random factor involved as my hardware seems to be inconsistently being recognized between installs.
[21:37] <istredd> and there is nvidia driver unchecked
[21:38] <amenado> HopsNBarley-> you have added  priority=critical ?
[21:38] <Gupp> captainm i did changed it and rebooted but it keeps saing no such device
[21:38] <Leechzilla> I type sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start but nothing happens. It just takes me to the next prompt without doing anything
[21:38] <yowshi> amenado: but i have no idea what to add. it seems to be talking about vfat in this part or something and i dont have vfat i need ntfs info
[21:38] <Lokii-> hischild sounds like you might have a faulty connection or failing trace on your mobo you might wanna have it cxhewcked or buy a new one as there dirt cheap anyways
[21:38] <istredd> just check it and if you have drivers downloaded it will start using it,if not, aptitude will install it for you
[21:38] <guestbuntu55> Where can I find a driver for an ATi RV370 [radeon X300]
[21:38] <HopsNBarley> amenado, sounds interesting - where does this go?  at the end of the d-i line for get_hostname?
[21:38] <hischild> Lokii-, my hardware is just fine, thank you
[21:38] <un0p> Leechzilla, it means all is good -- continue on to the next step
[21:38] <Gupp> in the config file i set auto lo eth0 and iface inet static
[21:38] <Lokii-> LoL don't get testy
[21:38] <amenado> yowshi-> lets step back..can you do this manually? and not through /etc/fstab  ?
[21:38] <beex> can I have beagle/tracker search within one folder, recursively?
[21:39] <amenado> HopsNBarley-> on same kernel command line
[21:39] <Leechzilla> un0p: what next step?
[21:39] <mrpockets> so i updated something for the Screenlette apps
[21:39] <HopsNBarley> amenado, okay, lemme try that.  thanks for the suggestion!!!
[21:39] <mrpockets> and now i've got two icons in the sys tray
[21:39] <yowshi> amenado: yeah i can do it manually. mount /dev/drive /where/iwantit
[21:39] <un0p> Leechzilla, i dunno, whatever it is you need to do after starting apache
[21:39] <captainm> Gupp, as far as I know that should do it. I don't know where the problem is.
[21:39] <guestbuntu55> I get a error message when trying to enable desktop effects saying: Desktop Effects can not be enabled.
[21:39] <mrpockets> and i cant close one without closing both, but they're the same thing..
[21:39] <Leechzilla> un0p: It's not starting, is what I'm saying
[21:39] <beex> whenever I use the search funcion in nautiuls is searches *everything*, not the files in that folder
[21:39] <beex> it there a way to make it act differently?
[21:40] <amenado> yowshi-> now i want you think for now, everything that is done automatically can be done manually.. so the steps you have performed manually should translate to an automated task
[21:40] <un0p> Leechzilla, sudo /etc/init.c/apache2 restart
[21:40]  * Lokii- used a pen and paper to remeber wherte things are LoL
[21:40] <ritalin> y0 i installed kde4 on ubuntu yet i dont see a session for it in gdm. how can you add that to GDM?
[21:40] <Leechzilla> un0p: It doesn't do anything
[21:40] <un0p> Leechzilla, does it even say anything?
[21:40] <amenado> yowshi-> what was the first thing you've done before even knowing to mount the specific partition?
[21:40] <Leechzilla> un0p: Nope
[21:40] <un0p> Leechzilla, is apache even installed?? I really wonder
[21:40] <yowshi> amenado: yeah but when i look in fstab none of the present entries look like my mount command. they all have other stuff added to them
[21:40] <guestbuntu55> I get a error message when trying to enable desktop effects saying: Desktop Effects can not be enabled. Im on Ubuntu 7.10 Gusty Gibbon. My graphics card is an ATI Radeon X300 (RV730)
[21:40] <hischild> ritalin, if you click on sessions on the left down menu you can select kde.
[21:41] <Leechzilla> un0p? Yeah it's installed
[21:41] <ritalin> it isnt there
[21:41] <ritalin> installed kde4 base
[21:41] <ron> with the new dual core cpu's should i install the 64 bit version of ubuntu ?
[21:41] <Sexy_Girl> Hi
[21:41] <amenado> yowshi-> well if you have read the man pages for fstab or mount, it would have given you a clue
[21:41] <BobTheBruin> I was wondering if someone could help me.  I have a gutsy machine that now will not boot up.  I get the error message "Starting up...  [1.080000] Kernel panic - not syncing: VPS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)
[21:41] <ritalin> товарищ Sexy_Girl
[21:41] <amenado> yowshi-> what was the first thing you've done before even knowing to mount the specific partition? <-- answer this
[21:41] <bastid_raZor> guestbuntu55; #compiz-fusion will be the best place for help with compiz
[21:41] <tomytvout> hi anyone who can help me out with tvout from pc to tv
[21:41] <un0p> Leechzilla, that's not normal, if i were you, i would reinstall apache -- sudo apt-get install --reinstall apache2
[21:41] <hischild> ron, do you have more then 4gb of ram or have a specific need for 64bit programs? if that's so, then use 64bit. Else use the 32bit
[21:41] <Leechzilla> un0p: I did that too, still no luck
[21:42] <bastid_raZor> ron if you have 64 bit processors
[21:42] <ron> cool thanks
[21:42] <yowshi> amenado: i looked at the man pages for mount it was totally confusing i know none of the terms used in it and it left me dumber then before i had read them
[21:42] <guestbuntu55> ok
[21:42] <un0p> Leechzilla, have you tried browsing to http://localhost ?
[21:42] <magnetron> just ask, tomytvout, if anyone knows the answer they will answer
[21:42] <RabidWeezle> anyone good with unzip in the console? I need to extract ALOT of zips, but not have it make directories, just extract the files
[21:42] <Leechzilla> un0p; yes
[21:42] <Lokii-> bastid_raZor,  he's not even at that point yet he is having trouble with ati card and dr5ivers
[21:42] <yowshi> amenado: man pages seem to be written for people with experience. not for newbs
[21:42] <un0p> Leechzilla, ok, and?
[21:42] <xopher> how do I completely and utterly reset my sound/sound card configuration?
[21:42] <Leechzilla> un0p; unable to connect
[21:42] <bastid_raZor> Lokii-; okay.. i missed his previous posts
[21:43] <Lokii-> he's not geting thew capabilities his vidcard can offer him
[21:43] <Lokii-> excuse my spelling
[21:43] <jimrim> I installed Real Player 10 Gold.  When I tried to use it I got the an error message "Bad Transport"  Bad Transport (rtsp://a1680.v418786.c41878.g.vr.akamaistream.net/ondemand/7/1680/41878/v0001/bbcworld2.download.akamai.com/38233/video/house/1secondblack.rm), what is the problem and what is the fix"
[21:43] <bod_> guys, where can i change the sound played when logging in?
[21:43] <Silencedbear> hmm can anyone help me with a java issue.
[21:43] <rectec794613> HELP!!!
[21:43] <tomytvout> ok i have plugged in my tvout cables on my pc and now i go nvidia-settings i can not get twinview or tvout from there i hear only sound no picture picture is blue
[21:43] <Lokii-> #java
[21:43] <ompaul> !help | rectec794613
[21:43] <ubotu> rectec794613: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[21:43] <amenado> yowshi we all started as newbies, our persistence paid off..so if you do the same, eventually it will too
[21:43] <bod_> !helpme | rectec794613
[21:43] <ubotu> rectec794613: Avoid your questions being followed by a trail of "Please, help me", "Can nobody help me?", "I really need this!", and so on. This just contributes to making the channel unreadable. If you are not answered, ask again later; but see also !repeat and !patience
[21:43] <hischild> RabidWeezle, try unzip *.zip
[21:43] <RabidWeezle> I did
[21:43] <RabidWeezle> :(
[21:43] <deamoon> guys do u know how to instal creative X-FI sound card?
[21:44] <un0p> Leechzilla, ok, have a look in your log files -- grep -i apache /var/log/{syslog,debug} | less  -- see what you can make off the failure to start
[21:44] <rectec794613> I'm upgrading to ubuntu hardy but its stuck now
[21:44] <bastid_raZor> jimrim; vlc or mplayer can play real formats if you want a *in my opinion* better video player
[21:44] <RabidWeezle> caution: filename not matched:  is all I get
[21:44] <RabidWeezle> it doesn't extract anything :(
[21:44] <bod_> rectec794613, have u tried asking in #ubuntu+1  ?
[21:44] <rectec794613> no
[21:44] <ompaul> !hardy | rectec794613
[21:44] <ubotu> rectec794613: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[21:44] <yowshi> amenado: persistence my left 54368329 seriously if i cant understand the terms being used in whats supposed to explain how to use the thing i dont understand then reading it is only going to worsen my situation. and you telling me to go frag off and read them AFTERR i have told you i have tried that only worsens the entire situation
[21:44] <Kadotus> Hi, anyone willing to help a linuxnewbie with ATI Radeon videocard problems? Installed fglrx drivers, but now everything is _very_ slow.
[21:45] <Leechzilla> un0p: no error messages there
[21:45] <BobTheBruin> Can anyone help with my gutsy machine that now will not boot up.  I get the error message "Starting up...  [1.080000] Kernel panic - not syncing: VPS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)
[21:45] <Kadotus> And I think I've messed up my configurations completely too. :D
[21:45] <amenado> yowshi-> okay you'd like to whine...read it yourself, i can not hand hold you..you have google for reference
[21:45] <garferi> Kadotus, which video card?
[21:45] <Silencedbear> If anyone has any good java info please message me im a moron tbh. And i cant get my java to work.
[21:45] <yowshi> amenado: you seem to be saying that if i dont understand some device and my only manual is in japanese then i shou;ld keep reading the manual until i understadn japanese
[21:45] <deamoon> guys do u know how to instal creative X-FI sound card?
[21:46] <hischild> RabidWeezle, sorry, i'mi in a loss there then ... try using nautilus and select them all
[21:46] <amenado> yowshi-> are you japanese?
[21:46] <Kadotus> garferi: Ati Radeon 9200 [RV280]
[21:46] <hischild> BobTheBruin, did you do anything out of the ordinary before you rebooted?
[21:46] <tomytvout> ok i have plugged in my tvout cables on my pc and now i go nvidia-settings i can not get twinview or tvout from there i hear only sound no picture picture is blue  anyone who can help me
[21:46] <BobTheBruin> not really
[21:46] <yowshi> amenado: NO and you seem to be missing the point completly.
[21:46] <BobTheBruin> it was just a reboot
[21:46] <bastid_raZor> !java > Silencedbear
[21:47] <yowshi> amenado: the how to's only help if you understasnd what your reading. same with the man pages. if i understand not what i am reading it is useless to try reading it
[21:47] <hischild> yowshi, he meant if the install you're on is in japanese .. if it's an english install you can use man fstab to read an english manual.
[21:47] <garferi> Kadotus, did you have better video performance before you installed fglrx?
[21:47] <pike_> tomytvout: youll  probably need to pastebin your xorg.conf file
[21:47] <gregbrady> Anyone else with an easy method to copy a DVD?
[21:47] <guestbuntu55> I'm getting an error message when trying to enable dekstop effects that says: Desktop effects can not be enabled. I'm on Ubuntu 7.10 Gusty. My Graphics card is an ATI Radeon X300 (RV730) (the people in #compiz-fusion wouldn't help me.)
[21:47] <pike_> tomytvout: gksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[21:47] <pike_> !paste | tomytvout
[21:47] <ubotu> tomytvout: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[21:47] <XORAND> hi all.  I installed ubuntu 7.10 and tried to connect to the internet with the vodafone-card-wireless-driver.run file (14Mb).  I loaded the RSA vodafone defaults.  The program runs with my e620 recognized and connects to Vodacom.  I tried to surf with firefox, but firefox says i'm not connected :( Even though the light on my modem shines constant blue and the program says I'm connected.  How...
[21:47] <hischild> BobTheBruin, there are a lot of htings that are just a reboot. Did you install/remove any packages?
[21:47] <XORAND> ...do I get firefox to see that I'm connected?
[21:47] <yowshi> hischild: no i was making a point that amenado seems to be telling me to go read the man pages until i understand the terms in it. even though i dont understand the terms in the man pages
[21:47] <RabidWeezle> looks to be it's "for f in *.zip; do unzip "$f"; done"
[21:47] <amenado> yowshi well its hard to get to your thick head, am suggesting there are other ways, like books on linux? google ? tutorials..they provide ample explanations
[21:47] <BobTheBruin> I am not the only one who uses it, but I am guessing it was after an update
[21:48] <unop_> Leechzilla, what does this command spit out?  ps aux | grep -i apache
[21:48] <zeptit> Been thinking about installing ubuntu on my computer, atm i have 2 disks with NTFS will i have any problems with these in ubuntu?
[21:48] <guestbuntu55> answer my question when ready
[21:48] <yowshi> hischild:  in other words my only manual may as well be in japanese and he is telling me to read it until i know japanese
[21:48] <Kadotus> garferi, with the new card? It didn't work out at all before i installed fglrx. Old videocard was integrated Via unichrome (which sucked)
[21:48] <hischild> yowshi, if you ask us what the terms mean we can explain them. However we can't hold your hand and do it every step by the way.
[21:48] <garferi> XORAND, Where to connectedd?
[21:48] <guestbuntu55> If you need my question again, let me know
[21:48] <XORAND> vodacom, i think
[21:48] <bobbyd> hi
[21:48] <guestbuntu55> hi
[21:48] <guestbuntu55> I'm getting an error message when trying to enable dekstop effects that says: Desktop effects can not be enabled. I'm on Ubuntu 7.10 Gusty. My Graphics card is an ATI Radeon X300 (RV730)
[21:48] <numus> ok when i tried to load into ubuntu it loads into busybox instead of ubuntu..
[21:48] <Flare183> !hi | bobbyd
[21:48] <ubotu> bobbyd: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[21:48] <Leechzilla> unop_: Nothing. Apache isn't running, manb
[21:48] <XORAND> garferi: vodacom, i think
[21:48] <pike_> zeptit: read support is automatic for write..
[21:48] <Flare183> guestbuntu55: are you using the right driver?
[21:49] <pike_> !ntfs3g | zeptit
[21:49] <ubotu> zeptit: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[21:49] <captainm> BobTheBruin, maybe a problem with grub.conf
[21:49] <guestbuntu55> What driver? where do I get drivers?????????
[21:49] <BobTheBruin> think so?
[21:49] <captainm> BobTheBruin, http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-2857087.html
[21:49] <bastid_raZor> wow guestbuntu55 you sure made an ass out of yourself in #compiz-fusion
[21:49] <unop_> Leechzilla,  how about this ?  find /etc/apache2
[21:49] <Flare183> guestbuntu55: on the ati siet
[21:49] <garferi> XORAND, if you connected to the internet you will see this because the start page in firefox loaded
[21:49] <BobTheBruin> lemme look at what it says
[21:49] <Flare183> site*
[21:49] <sstoveld> Svenstaro, want to fix another problem? :D
[21:49] <amenado> yowshi-> btw, i did not learn linux overnight, it took time, some i dont get still, i chug along, reading stuff on google, hoping a better explanations
[21:49] <numus> anyone know why busybox is loading up?
[21:49] <pike_> zeptit: note the installer will automatically resize whichever partition if you want it to and install ubuntu to a ext3 partition in the freespace it creates
[21:49] <Flare183> guestbuntu55: or in the repos
[21:49] <yowshi> hischild: amenado frag this thank you for providing an example of the futility of comming here
[21:49] <hischild> BobTheBruin, it might be, as captainm said, a grub.conf error (or menu.lst) .... do you have a rescue disc at hand?
[21:49] <zeptit> Also ive just tried out linux once before. If i install a program are they hard to remove with files all over or just one directory?
[21:49] <XORAND> garferi: but the vodafone software says i am connected
[21:50] <Leechzilla> unop_: It lists a bunch of files. Want me to pastebin them?
[21:50] <XORAND> garferi: firefox defaults to a local page
[21:50] <tomytvout> hey pike here is my xorg.con http://www.pastebin.ca/957302
[21:50] <guestbuntu55> Flare183: ok
[21:50] <Xteven> hi
[21:50] <amenado> yowshi likewise to you
[21:50] <daedra> anyone know how to nick last.fm streams for MPD?
[21:50] <hischild> amenado, i have no idea what was his problem ...
[21:50] <Flare183> !hi | Xteven
[21:50] <daedra> i just want to dump a couple of recommended artists etc into Sonata
[21:50] <ubotu> Xteven: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[21:50] <Lokii-> bastid_raZor, awe i'm not in there atm what did i miss ?
[21:50] <unop_> Leechzilla, yes, together with the output of this --  dpkg -L apache2
[21:50] <daedra> !xen
[21:50] <ubotu> XEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Xen
[21:50] <Xteven> I'm looking for some good blog client that I can use on blogspot
[21:50] <Michael> Hello everybody
[21:50] <Xteven> thx Flare183 :)
[21:50] <Flare183> no problem
[21:50] <HopsNBarley> amenado, no pleasing some people, eh?
[21:50] <garferi> XORAND, type: www.google.com , if it load you have internet connection
[21:50] <Piero_Scaruffi> How do i mount ISO in Ubuntu?
[21:51] <Flare183> !mountiso | Piero_Scaruffi
[21:51] <amenado> hischild-> i can emphatize with his frustrations, some terms are not quite clear at the beginning, but his frustrations now is no one wants to hand hold him
[21:51] <ubotu> Piero_Scaruffi: To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » or use the "gmountiso" package - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[21:51] <bastid_raZor> Lokii-; no one responded to his question .. so he shot about 4 lines of spam and called everyone losers .. then left
[21:51] <Flare183> br
[21:51] <Flare183> brb
[21:51] <Michael> Does anyone knows why i am having this error when i install a package in Ubuntu??
[21:51] <Xteven> Piero_Scaruffi: mount -o loop /some/iso/image.iso /mnt/destination
[21:51] <pike_> zeptit: ubuntu is based on debian. what youll find is that its at its strongest in handing packages/apps much better than even windows. there is a add/remove program app that automatically removes or uninstalls whatever you want from a central reposistory no hunting no manual installs or uninstalls
[21:51] <XORAND> garferi: man, google.com won't load
[21:51] <Michael> E: jde: el subproceso post-installation script devolvió el código de salida de error 1
[21:51] <amenado> HopsNBarley-> sometimes it happens.. part of the trade..
[21:51] <Piero_Scaruffi> Flare183:  no GUI app for mounting ISO?
[21:51] <Xteven> !blog
[21:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about blog - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:51] <Lokii-> bastid_raZor, LoL thats funny
[21:51] <Xteven> hm
[21:51] <tomytvout> hey pike here is my xorg.con http://www.pastebin.ca/957302
[21:51] <amenado> HopsNBarley-> anyhow how did that options of priority=critical worked?
[21:51] <hischild> amenado, i told him that if he would ask what terms he didn't understand, i'd explain them to him. After that i was just ignored apparently as i didn't get a respons on that one
[21:52] <garferi> Piero_Scaruffi, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/mount-and-unmout-iso-images-without-burning-them.html
[21:52] <Flare183> i'm back
[21:52] <Flare183> Piero_Scaruffi: not really no
[21:52] <Michael> Zalker can you help me I have a problem with ubuntu
[21:52] <Leechzilla> unop_: http://www.nomorepasting.com/getpaste.php?pasteid=13589
[21:52] <amenado> hischild-> i'd let him calm down a bit, its like a child, you give em time in the corner..hehe
[21:52] <bastid_raZor> Lokii-; it is amazing how people think they are owed tech help ..
[21:52] <deamoon> guys do u know how to instal creative X-FI sound card?
[21:53] <Lokii-> deamoon sorry no i don't
[21:53] <BobTheBruin> yeah I have a rescue disk, should I rename my grub.conf or menu.list?
[21:53] <deamoon> k
[21:53] <Flare183> !traffic
[21:53] <ubotu> NOTICE - There is a lot of traffic in this channel at the moment. Please try to keep your sentences into a single message, avoid repeating the same question multiple times, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pasting, remember to mention the nickname of the person you're addressing, and join #ubuntu-offtopic for anything that is not Ubuntu support. Thank you for understanding!
[21:53] <BobTheBruin> or try to figure out the problem
[21:53] <garferi> Kadotus, I think you nedd to install the xdl driver with this command: sudo apt-get install xserver-xgl
[21:53] <unop_> Leechzilla, what happens when you try and start apache via apache2ctl ?
[21:53] <pike_> tomytvout: you using a regular old tv or an hdtv? 720p or 1080 or what?
[21:53] <amenado> hischild-> btw , i did offer same, if he gets stuck id assist, but without trying, its difficult to get the feel what the system response is
[21:53] <tomytvout> old tv
[21:53] <Leechzilla> unop_; uh, how do I do that?
[21:53] <guestbuntu55> Flare183: where is the "repo"
[21:54] <Lokii-> bastid_raZor, heh yeah well this isn't microsoft ifs a free community and the tech support is even free unlike ms where you get 1 free phoner call and they change you after that
[21:54] <Flare183> guestbuntu55: you know apt-get or synaptic
[21:54] <sstoveld> hey guys, im having a problem here, when i try to use terminal or synaptic to install anything, i get an error saying "E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.", but when i run this command in a terminal, my pc shuts off and wont power back on unless i unplug it for 5 seconds and plug it back in, anyone know whats wrong?
[21:54] <Michael> Can any body pay me attention please???
[21:54] <unop_> Leechzilla, sudo apache2ctl start (i think)
[21:54] <guestbuntu55> oh
[21:54] <Flare183> !ot > Lokii-
[21:54] <unop_> Leechzilla, sudo apache2ctl restart (is better)
[21:54] <tomytvout> i have one black cable pluged into pc then that cable into a scart and there are two other cables one red and one white , i hear sound but the picture on tv is blue
[21:54] <Flare183> !anybody > Michael
[21:54] <Kadotus> garferi: it says that i already have it installed
[21:54] <guestbuntu55> Flare183: if I do Apt-get, what would I type?
[21:54] <amenado> BobTheBruin-> typically menu.lst is symlinked to grub.conf
[21:54] <Flare183> !adeptcrash
[21:54] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[21:55] <Flare183> !adeptcrash > sstoveld
[21:55] <Leechzilla> unop_: Hmm, it works now. But I gotta do this everytime I start the system?
[21:55] <Dr_willis> tomytvout,  be sure you dont have a audio cable going into a RCA video in, in addation to the Svideo In.. that can cause issues..
[21:55] <Flare183> guestbuntu55: what are you trying to install?
[21:55] <BobTheBruin> can I take the menu.lst file from my ubuntu laptop or would it be completely different?
[21:55] <Michael> I need some help please
[21:55] <Michael> ??
[21:55] <Lokii-> guestbuntu55, if your unsure of the package name then you can find it using apt-cache search <search_string>
[21:55] <guestbuntu55> A driver for An ATI RV370 [Radeon X300SE]
[21:55] <richard> How do I get the panel at the bottom of the screen to reappear?
[21:55] <Dr_willis> BobTheBruin,   It will be different. but you can use it as a basis for making the new one.
[21:55] <sstoveld> Flare183, thanks, i will try it now
[21:55] <Flare183> !patience | Michael
[21:55] <ubotu> Michael: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[21:55] <tomytvout> no the cables are plugged in as they have to be
[21:56] <Flare183> sstoveld: ok
[21:56] <guestbuntu55> Flare183: A driver for An ATI RV370 [Radeon X300SE]
[21:56] <amenado> Flare183-> seems a missing step there? once fuser finds out the process using the lock, dont he need to kill it or remove the lock?
[21:56] <hischild> BobTheBruin, it'd be most usefull if you chroot into your enviroment of a rescue disc and then grub-update or update-grub ... whichever is the one
[21:56] <captainm> BobTheBruin, Could you boot into the rescue cd and pastebin menu.lst/ grub.conf?
[21:56] <Michael> E: jde: el subproceso post-installation script devolvió el código de salida de error 1 why is happening to me with Ubuntu
[21:56] <Flare183> amenado: i think so
[21:56] <BobTheBruin> is rescue the same as the live cd?
[21:56] <Dr_willis> tomytvout,  try removing the rca cables and double check. If just the svideo is funny colored..  You might have a pin bent/broke, or a bad cable or other issues HW wise.
[21:56]  * Flare183 yells in the flood of questions
[21:56] <Lokii-> Micheal ask your question don't just ask for help[ if someone knows the answer they will pipe up if not then there obviously not gonna bother in most casres
[21:56] <unop_> Leechzilla, I really suspect that your /etc/init.d/apache* file is corrupt -- you might like to purge and reinstall that package -- sudo sh -c "aptitude purge $(dpkg -l | grep -i apache | cut -c 3-30); aptitude install apache2"
[21:56] <hischild> BobTheBruin,  sudo aptitude install pastebinit &&  cat menu.lst | pastebinit (Please provice link in channel)
[21:56] <Flare183> guestbuntu55: one sec
[21:56] <guestbuntu55> kk
[21:57] <amenado> Flare183-> yeah, so somehow correct that ubutu paste, add a removal of lock
[21:57] <Flare183> ok
[21:57] <Flare183> brb
[21:57] <Jaymac> Michael: try typing sudo apt-get install -f
[21:57] <BobTheBruin> where do I run that from hischild, the livecd?
[21:57] <tomytvout> no dr_willis the issuses is my nvidia settings i dunno how to configure it from there
[21:57] <HopsNBarley> amenado, here goes....
[21:57] <sstoveld> Flare183, thanks, worked like a charm, will i have to do this again or should this be fixed for now?
[21:57] <richard> I've got Ubuntu on my laptop. I can't seem to get the panel at the bottom to reappear. How do I get it to start up?Thnx
[21:57]  * amenado crosses fingers for HopsNBarley 
[21:57] <Dr_willis> tomytvout,  theres the nvidia control panel tools. try 'nvid<tab>' in the terminal to see what you have installed.
[21:57] <hischild> BobTheBruin, correct, from inside the chrooted enviroment. If you come back here once you are in the live cd we'll help you through.
[21:58] <BobTheBruin> I am in
[21:58] <BobTheBruin> type that line in?
[21:58] <hischild> BobTheBruin, ok. then you execute the follwoing command:
[21:58] <hischild> sudo aptitude install pastebinit &&  cat /boot/grub/menu.lst | pastebinit (Please provice link in channel)
[21:58] <Flare183> sstoveld: fix from now on unless dpkg crashes again
[21:58]  * Lokii- sugests opening termina'l
[21:58] <HopsNBarley> amenado, you are a genius!  5 cups of ubuntu!
[21:58] <sstoveld> Flare183, thanks a lot
[21:58] <hischild> captainm, can you take BobTheBruin  from here?
[21:58] <sFEARs> is there a way i can edit the applications menu as a directory structure... drag & drop and such?
[21:58] <Flare183> sstoveld: no problem
[21:58] <BobTheBruin> including the ( )
[21:58] <pike_> tomytvout: what is the result of this? http://www.pastebin.ca/957316 ?
[21:59] <captainm> hischild, probably
[21:59] <ompaul> !test
[21:59] <ubotu> Failed.
[21:59] <amenado> HopsNBarley-> eh man, i just read the manual...i did not invent it..hehehe
[21:59] <tomytvout> here is my lspci http://www.pastebin.ca/957285
[21:59] <Leechzilla> unop_: Okay done, but still the same. that init.d thing won't start it
[21:59] <Flare183> ompaul: soo many questions
[21:59] <Dr_willis> tomytvout,  to enale my tv OUT for my nvidia cards, there was often a few little things i had to do dependign on which card.  On one machine. I had to be sure to have the tv conected when i booted up. OR you can enable twinview and enable the clone output option, Or you could use twinview and use the tv as a 2nd monitor.
[21:59] <HopsNBarley> amenado, i google the crap out of this and found nothing -where were you looking?
[21:59] <unop__> Leechzilla, let's try that command again albeit a little differently ..
[21:59] <Lokii-> wow i think my eyes are too sore for this atm
[21:59] <Lokii-> bbl all
[21:59] <Lokii-> help then with what i can
[22:00] <tomytvout> thats my xorg.conf pike
[22:00] <amenado> HopsNBarley-> here  https://help.ubuntu.com/7.04/installation-guide/i386/preseed-using.html#preseed-loading
[22:00] <unop__> Leechzilla, sudo sh -c "aptitude purge $(dpkg -l | grep -i apache | cut -c 3-30); aptitude clean; aptitude install apache2"
[22:00] <captainm> BobTheBruin, have you chrooted in your environment already?
[22:00] <Flare183> guestbuntu55: umm ok goto ati.com and find the driver that is on that site
[22:00] <Dr_willis> tomytvout,  if the tv is just showing blue - thats because its getting no video signal, its showing a blank screen instead of a staticy screen.  :)
[22:00] <guestbuntu55> I tried. I couldn't find it.
[22:00] <Dr_willis> !tvout
[22:00] <ubotu> For help with enabling the TV-Out, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaTVOutNewbieEdition (Nvidia cards) or http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Tvout (ATI cards, *untested*)
[22:00] <HopsNBarley> amenado, well, the "you may want to add" is a bit soft, as it doesn't work without it (-;
[22:01] <Flare183> guestbuntu55: let me get the link for you
[22:01] <guestbuntu55> Flare183: Ok
[22:01] <Leechzilla> unop__: still the same
[22:01] <amenado> HopsNBarley-> oh, i'll make a note of that.. when you say it does not work without it, you mean it is not automated?
[22:02] <HopsNBarley> amenado, yes - i should have been more explicit.
[22:02] <unop__> Leechzilla, what happens when you just do this?  /etc/init.d/apache2
[22:02] <amenado> HopsNBarley-> thanks for the feedback, i'll make a note to myself when i do a netboot rollout also
[22:02] <HopsNBarley> amenado, given this discovery, i may try initrd preseeding.  i have to add my network card to the initrd anyway, so while it's up on the rack... (-;
[22:02] <sstoveld> hey guys, is skype compatible with ubuntu?
[22:02] <Leechzilla> unop__: nothing
[22:02] <amenado> HopsNBarley-> thats the spirit, pushing it to the limits..hehe
[22:03] <captainm> BobTheBruin, are you still there?
[22:03] <sourcemaker> sstoveld: it's working fine for me
[22:03] <HopsNBarley> amenado, i've been at this a *long* time  (-;
[22:03] <guestbuntu55> Flare183: You got it yet?
[22:03] <Jaymac> sstoveld: yes it is. go to skype.com and download the ubuntu version
[22:03] <BobTheBruin> captainm how do you chroot your environment?
[22:03] <Flare183> guestbuntu55: not yet kinda hard to find since it has been discontinued
[22:03] <amenado> HopsNBarley-> and they keep coming up with new things..haha..its a never ending learning process
[22:03] <BobTheBruin> I type in  sudo aptitude install pastebinit &&  cat /boot/grub/menu.lst | pastebinit (Please provice link in channel)
[22:04] <sstoveld> jaymac, i just did, but when i tried to install it my computer froze, had to turn off power, should i try it again?
[22:04] <BobTheBruin> and it said there is an error near Please
[22:04] <BobTheBruin> sorry for taking it too literally
[22:04] <HopsNBarley> amenado, you in the bay area?
[22:04] <tomytvout> thsi my card and my xorg.conf file is it correct dr_willis http://www.pastebin.ca/957316
[22:04] <amenado> HopsNBarley-> yes i am
[22:04] <captainm> BobTheBruin, first make sure the drive with ubuntu on it is mounted
[22:04] <BobTheBruin> yeah it is
[22:04] <unop__> Leechzilla, can you pastebin this?  ls -l /etc/init.d/apache2; cat /etc/init.d/apache2
[22:04] <captainm> BobTheBruin, does it show up on your desktop?
[22:04] <HopsNBarley> amenado, me also.  (-;
[22:04] <Jaymac> sstoveld: that is a strange behaviour.
[22:04] <BobTheBruin> as /media/disk
[22:04] <Akhram> Hi!
[22:04] <Jaymac> sstoveld: skype works fine for me - was using it an hour ago
[22:05] <amenado> HopsNBarley-> alright, hello there neighbor.. :)
[22:05] <sstoveld> Jaymac, should i just try to install it again?
[22:05] <HopsNBarley> amenado, what city? i'm in los gatos
[22:05] <captainm> BobTheBruin, ok. now in a terminal type: sudo chroot /media/disk /bin/bash
[22:05] <BobTheBruin> done
[22:05] <amenado> HopsNBarley-> am in the area where we always have thick fog..hehehe
[22:05] <Silencedbear> ok why would it say for  a game im missing a plugin and when i go to install java 6 it says that its already isntalled ?
[22:05] <Flare183> guestbuntu55: http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux/linux-radeon.html
[22:05] <Flare183> guestbuntu55: there you go
[22:05] <tomytvout> dr_willis are you there
[22:05] <guestbuntu55> Flare183: Tanhk You!
[22:05] <kazman> i am looking for a graphics/image program for web development, any suggestions?
[22:06] <Leechzilla> unop__: http://www.nomorepasting.com/getpaste.php?pasteid=13592
[22:06] <Flare183> guestbuntu55: no problem I hope it works. I have to go and eat some food. Be back later
[22:06] <unop__> kazman, thats a bit vague, can you be a little more specific?
[22:06] <amenado> kazman-> you try  inskcape and gimp?
[22:06] <kazman> unop__ something like psp for ubuntu
[22:06] <kazman> er paint shop pro
[22:06] <unop__> kazman, i dunno what psp is
[22:07] <unop__> kazman, have you tried the gimp?
[22:07] <captainm> BobTheBruin, could you type my name before you say something to me? that'll make it easier to see you in the see of comments. You can use tab to autocomplete my name
[22:07] <Silencedbear> if someone can pm me please on any ideas for java.
[22:07] <kazman> no i havent
[22:07] <kazman> will do
[22:07] <kazman> thanks
[22:07] <sstoveld> Jaymac, install worked fine now, thanks
[22:07] <Jaymac> sstoveld: probably worth another shot.
[22:07] <BobTheBruin> captainm: sure sorry
[22:07] <BobTheBruin> captainm: it is done
[22:07] <Jaymac> sstoveld: great
[22:07] <bobbyd> kazman: gimp
[22:07] <captainm> BobTheBruin, now in a terminal type: update-grub -y
[22:07] <Xteven> are any of you using blogger/blogspot with a blog client ?
[22:08] <sstoveld> Jaymac, do you know where i can change my microphone settings? such as mic boost and volume?
[22:08] <Proximity> I use blogger
[22:08]  * DOOM_NX gn all! - Battery Empty
[22:08] <Proximity> I never found a client
[22:08] <Xteven> Proximity: with which client ?
[22:08] <Xteven> ah :/
[22:08] <Xteven> I'm looking for one
[22:08] <guestbuntu55> ready to help
[22:08] <Xteven> I prefer one written in a scripting language like python
[22:08] <Proximity> The web based one works fine for me
[22:08] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, you still here?
[22:08] <yates> is there an application that allows pdf forms to be edited and saved?
[22:08] <guestbuntu55> brb
[22:08] <Bidou> mv /home/pc/bidou /home/bed/
[22:09] <sstoveld> Svenstaro, yeah, i went to sleep for a few hours though
[22:09] <BobTheBruin> captainm it has some problems with permission denied and "cannot determine root device, this error is probably caused by an invalid /etc/fstab"
[22:09] <Slart> yates: I haven't seen one yet.. but it was some time since I last looked into this
[22:09] <Svenstaro> sstoveld ive just woken up myself
[22:09] <Piero_Scaruffi> Mounten is anglicistisch jargon voor het beschikbaar maken en aankoppelen van opslagmedia voor een besturingssysteem.
[22:09] <Slart> !en | Piero_Scaruffi
[22:09] <ubotu> Piero_Scaruffi: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[22:09] <Piero_Scaruffi> oops sorry
[22:09] <yates> piddle
[22:09] <hischild> captainm, BobTheBruin, i'm back. Sorry, had a home emergency. How are things progressing?
[22:09] <Piero_Scaruffi> wrong channel
[22:09] <Piero_Scaruffi> i thought i was in ubuntu-nl
[22:09] <sstoveld> Svenstaro, just fixed another problem thanks to Flame183, pc kept crashing had to use the command from !adeptcrash
[22:09] <Piero_Scaruffi> honest mistake
[22:10] <BobTheBruin> hischild: working on it still, thanks for checking in
[22:10] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, are you good now?
[22:10] <Slart> Piero_Scaruffi: no worries
[22:10] <Svenstaro> heho hischild :)
[22:10] <hischild> Svenstaro, aah a familiar face. How's things going out there?
[22:10] <sstoveld> Svenstaro, yeah im doin pretty good now, although im wondering where to change my mic settings such as mic boost and volume
[22:10] <captainm> hischild, he's chrooted in the old environment and update-grub has some problems with permission denied and "cannot determine root device, this error is probably caused by an invalid /etc/fstab"
[22:10] <JJ1> hey there guys. I need a sfv checker but I cant find any. can someone help me out?
[22:10] <sstoveld> Svenstaro, and thanks again for all that help earlier, i would be completely lost haha
[22:10] <Svenstaro> hischild, ive just woken up with an empty stomach, now I've eaten too much and my stomach hurts :(
[22:10] <hischild> captainm, i see. Did he mount the /dev and /proc from the live env?
[22:11] <Slart> JJ1: md5sum works nicely for a terminal.. or you're looking for something with a gui?
[22:11] <Slart> JJ1: I think there's a similar app for crc32
[22:11] <JJ1> slart - im looking for something with a guy. for easy access
[22:11] <hischild> Svenstaro, tutut you should know better then that =p some milk will do that some good, it'll relieve the pain. Don't drink it cold though, a bit warm helps. (no joke)
[22:11] <JJ1> Slart -  more of a "drag+drop" kind of app if u know what i mean ^_^
[22:12] <captainm> hischild, probably not :P
[22:12] <Slart> JJ1: I understand.. let's see what synaptic says...
[22:12] <HopsNBarley> amenado, hey, thanks for the help - have a great afternoon!
[22:12] <captainm> hischild, but now it's my time to leave. It's 11:15 pm here and time for bed for me.
[22:12] <Svenstaro> sstoveld you see the volume icon top right of your screen? rightlick and choose volume panel, should give you a few sliders to play around with
[22:12] <BobTheBruin> hischild, it is mounted /media/disk
[22:12] <HopsNBarley> amenado, if you ever need help with embedded linux - drop me a line over in #oe (-;
[22:12] <hischild> captainm, alright. From what i can remember, it'll help if he exits the chroot env, and then executes --> mount -t proc none /media/disk/proc && mount -o bind /dev /media/disk/dev
[22:12] <BobTheBruin> thanks for the help captainm,
[22:13] <Svenstaro> hischild, thing is ive eaten cereals with milk :(
[22:13] <hischild> captainm, alright. I'll see what we can do from here on.
[22:13] <captainm> BobTheBruin, hischild Good luck!
[22:13] <hischild> Svenstaro, warm milk or cold? warm relieves pain.
[22:13] <Lokii-> you could try running moosfv under wine
[22:13] <kindofabuzz_> Svenstaro: how'd that install go this morning?
[22:13] <Lokii-> might work
[22:13] <neopsyche> in this guide http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/install-samba-server-on-ubuntu/ does uncomment mean remove the ; ??? or the # ??
[22:13] <sstoveld> oh ok i see, thanks
[22:13] <BobTheBruin> hischild, should I do that?
[22:13] <artenius2> I've switched monitors and everything was fine until I rebooted, I managed to get the resolution mostly sorted but some things still don't work, when I open a terminal, it's just a white window. How can I re-autodetect my settings so ubuntu recognizes this monitor and things get back to normal?
[22:13] <Svenstaro> kindofabuzz_, sstoveld's ones?
[22:13] <artenius2> neopsyche: the #'s
[22:14] <kindofabuzz_> sstoveld: well i guess i can ask you, how'd the install go?
[22:14] <hischild> BobTheBruin, you'll have to exit your chroot env by typing exit. Then you will have to mount 2 things for me. Your ubuntu install is mounted at /media/disk?
[22:14] <Svenstaro> hischild, cold mild im afraid :(
[22:14] <hischild> Svenstaro, drink half a glass of warm milk with sugar. You'll feel better
[22:14] <BobTheBruin> yeah
[22:14] <Slart> JJ1: hmm.. didn't find anything but terminal based apps.. at least not in the repos.. perhaps there is something else out there
[22:14] <BobTheBruin> hischild: yeah
[22:14] <kindofabuzz_> Svenstaro: yeah ssto's
[22:15] <evilgnome> hello all. firstly, is aptitude supposed to support color output for command-line use (because it's all plain for me)? and secondly, is there a way to stop aptitude output from cutting lines off when they're "too long"?
[22:15] <JJ1> Slart - yeah... well im going to continue searching for it then ^_^ thanks
[22:15] <hischild> BobTheBruin, alright. Then type the following:  mount -t proc none /media/disk/proc && mount -o bind /dev /media/disk/dev
[22:15] <artenius2> !resolution
[22:15] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[22:15] <Lokii-> neopsyche,  don't install samba ubuntu comes with cifs with is the new thing
[22:15] <Svenstaro> kindofabuzz_ hes up and running after a few hours work :) even the wicked dual head setup does work, even with his x800 ATI baby :P
[22:15] <sstoveld> kindofabuzz_, haha well, it was very long, and thank god for Svenstaro, he stayed with me for about 10 hrs straight fixing my problems, apparently my ati radeon x800GTO2 is NOT good for ubuntu :D, but i seem to be all good now
[22:15] <Lokii-> and it works a whole lot better
[22:15] <unop> Leechzilla, save this script here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/61061/  as /tmp/apache2 -- chmod +x /tmp/apache2; sudo /tmp/apache2 restart
[22:15] <Slart> JJ1: you're welcome, good luck
[22:15] <neopsyche> Lokii-, how do i get that sorted out?
[22:15] <Onyx> Is anyone in here a CISSP?
[22:15] <unop> Leechzilla, and pastebin the output you get
[22:16] <kindofabuzz_> nice, good job Sven and sstoveld
[22:16] <Svenstaro> :)
[22:16] <unop> Onyx, please head to #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:16] <Lokii-> neopsyche,  i'll give you few example and that should explain it 100%
[22:16] <sstoveld> kindofabuzz_, haha, all goes to sven, lifesaver
[22:16] <neopsyche> Lokii-, ok
[22:16] <BobTheBruin> hischild: I ran it and it said "only root can do that".  I threw a sudo in front of it and got the same message
[22:16] <sstoveld> kindofabuzz_, not its time to actually enjoy using ubuntu :D
[22:16] <Onyx> unop: w0rd
[22:16] <sstoveld> now*
[22:16] <kindofabuzz_> Svenstaro: have you ben to sleep yet? =)
[22:16] <Svenstaro> kindofabuzz_ just woken up, yeah
[22:17] <freebird> Any guitarists out there? I am looking for a software tuner that can pick up my usb preamp, connected through jackd?
[22:17] <kindofabuzz_> hehe
[22:17] <artenius2> when I open the terminal under accessories, it's just a blank white window, is there another way I can get in a terminal without rebooting into safe mode?
[22:17] <kindofabuzz_> play some skynard!
[22:17] <hischild> BobTheBruin, alright that is true. Do sudo -i to change to root and try again.
[22:17] <hischild> BobTheBruin, you should notice, those are 2 commands after each other.
[22:17] <hischild> artenius2, that is a terminal.
[22:18] <artenius2> hischild: I know, but I can't really do anything in it when it's a blank white window
[22:18] <Lokii-> neopsyche,  sudo nano /etc/fstab
[22:18] <BobTheBruin> hischild: according to mtab, none is already mounted to /media/disk/proc
[22:18] <numus> can someone help me.. i am trying to install teh ati drivers but i get   xorg-driver-fglrx: Depends: libstdc++5 (>= 1:3.3.4-1) but it is not installable
[22:18] <Lokii-> neopsyche,  then at the bottom of the file add line like this:
[22:18] <Lokii-> /192.168.0.194/SharedDocs /media/winshare cifs guest,uid=1000,iocharset=utf8,codepage=unicode,unicode  0  0
[22:18] <Lokii-> /192.168.0.194/drive2 /media/drive2 cifs guest,uid=1000,iocharset=utf8,codepage=unicode,unicode  0  0
[22:19] <tole> un0p, i tried..i've given up.ubuntu is kind of hard for me..maybe because i'm used to suse..or i don't know.
[22:19] <Lokii-> add the extra / at the beggining of those 2 lines
[22:19] <hischild> BobTheBruin, alrigth that leaves only the dev one --> mount -o bind /dev /media/disk/dev
[22:19] <j3kyl1> what do i need bottomline to play dvds? i've tried a few things...
[22:19] <kindofabuzz_> artenius; you using emerald or metacity?
[22:19] <Leechzilla> unop: It says "illegal option - "
[22:19] <artenius2> kindofabuzz_: gnome
[22:19] <freebird> vlc will play dvds
[22:19] <Lokii-> artenius sudo apt-get install metacity
[22:19] <sebas891> hey folks, anyone familiar with network booting and tftpd... a thin client is give me tftp "open time out" ...
[22:19] <BobTheBruin> hischild: done
[22:19] <Lokii-> sudo metacity --replace&
[22:20] <artenius2> Lokii-: I can't type in a terminal, lol, and I don't want metacity
[22:20] <kindofabuzz_> artenius just alt f2 then type in metacity --replace
[22:20] <hischild> BobTheBruin, then chroot back into your env and try update-grub again
[22:20] <Lokii-> then install emeralfd
[22:20] <freebird> are you using ltsp for tftpd
[22:20] <Lokii-> and replace metacity with emerald on both those lines
[22:20] <kindofabuzz_> you have metacity if you're just running stock gnome
[22:20] <j3kyl1> freebird : i tried vlc.. it never brings up the dvd. sometimes it just quits the program after trying..
[22:20] <tole> unop, ubuntu.com won't work for me,so i can't use irc there.can you just tell me how to install the repos and the kde?
[22:20] <artenius2> ok, that did nothing
[22:21] <j3kyl1>  freebird: so im looking at downloading codecs... but i really don't know what to do
[22:21] <artenius2> nm, now I have a terminal I can see
[22:21] <artenius2> thanks
[22:21] <kindofabuzz_> artenius ok alt f2 compiz --replace
[22:21] <kindofabuzz_> yeah there ya go
[22:21] <unop> Leechzilla, sorry, my bad, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/61062/
[22:21] <Jack> wow nice. can anyone see this?
[22:21] <Svenstaro> sstoveld have you tried games so far?
[22:21] <BobTheBruin> hischild: looks good
[22:21] <freebird> don't think it is codec issue if vlc wont work
[22:21] <Lokii-> neopsyche,  did you get the just of cifs ?
[22:21] <BobTheBruin> hischild: reboot?
[22:22] <hischild> BobTheBruin, can you pastebin that output for me?
[22:22] <sstoveld> Svenstaro, nope, not yet
[22:22] <j3kyl1> freebird : any quick suggestions to try?
[22:22] <BobTheBruin> hischild: it is on a different computers
[22:22] <sstoveld> Svenstaro, im just copying some of my music from my brothers computer over the network
[22:22] <BobTheBruin> hischild: I can type the good parts
[22:22] <freebird> whoever was asking about network booting...much help at ltsp
[22:22] <hischild> BobTheBruin, alright. Did it say it wrote a menu.lst and/or grub.conf?
[22:22] <sstoveld> Svenstaro, what is the default media player btw? or do i need to install one now?
[22:23] <unop> tole, you can install the xchat irc client -- sudo aptitude install xchat -- repositories howto - http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/sources  -- updating packages -- sudo aptitude update
[22:23] <freebird> j3kyll: can you read data from the dvd at all?
[22:23] <orudie> hey all, what is the difference between libgd2-xpm and libgd2-noxpm ?
[22:23] <Svenstaro> sstoveld totem is installed by default, you can use that, but I recommend VLC, theres nothing VLC cant play
[22:23] <unop> orudie, the former has support for xpm images, the latter doesnt
[22:23] <Nicholas> hi all, its a biggest channel, so... does anybody knows open-source audio player for WINDOWS?
[22:23] <geokok> Hi, how can I change the default application (sound juicer) that starts when I insert an audio cd?
[22:23] <hischild> BobTheBruin, if it said something along those lines you're good to go for another try at rebooting.
[22:23] <freebird> vlc for windows
[22:24] <BobTheBruin> hischild: found: /boot/grub and /boot/grub/menu.lst     no splash, skipped..... found the kernels and updated /boot/grub/menu.lst
[22:24] <unop> Nicholas, offtopic
[22:24] <Nicholas> audio?
[22:24] <pike_> Nicholas: /join #ubuntu-offtopic   personally i use mplayer for windows
[22:24] <orudie> so libgd2-xpm will include both ?
[22:24] <hischild> BobTheBruin, good enough. see what it does on reboot
[22:24] <Leechzilla> unop still the same
[22:24] <Lokii-> neopsyche, once you have those similar lines added to your fstab
[22:24] <Nicholas> : /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:24] <Lokii-> just mount -a
[22:24] <Svenstaro> Nicholas, as far as I know amarok runs on windows
[22:24] <core_> Can someone assist me with setting up a dual screen, when i setup my monitor to dual screen it moves my login screen of center and makes my second monitor when i place my mouse over there scroll. and it won't drag a window to it either.
[22:24] <Lokii-> and all those shares will mount
[22:24] <hischild> Nicholas, video? try vlc
[22:25] <unop> Leechzilla, sorry dude, i'm out of energy right now -- too late in the evening -- perhaps someone else knows
[22:25] <Nicholas> no, audio
[22:25] <Svenstaro> core_ ATI?
[22:25] <core_> Svenstaro, no intel
[22:25] <Svenstaro> core_, configuring intel dualheads is maschochistic :(
[22:25] <Leechzilla> unop, k thanks for the help
[22:25] <Lokii-> i noticed that it doesn't like diff sized monitors
[22:25] <Lokii-> as i have
[22:25] <core_> Svenstaro, ?
[22:25] <Lokii-> so i went back to 1 screen
[22:25] <Svenstaro> core_ your best bet is searching the ubuntu wiki
[22:26] <core_> Svenstaro, thank you
[22:26] <kindofabuzz_> how do i mv a folder? same as file?
[22:26] <BobTheBruin> hischild: worked like a charm!
[22:26] <core_> Svenstaro, you know where I can learn how to customize my gnome to look like it came from one of those hacker movies?
[22:26] <hischild> BobTheBruin, good to hear :-)
[22:26] <Svenstaro> Did anybody ever wonder why only the Intel/ATI folks ever have problems? :P
[22:26] <BobTheBruin> hischild: any idea how menu.lst can get screwed up?
[22:26] <Lokii-> mv -Rf folder/ /path/to/the/newfolder/
[22:26] <orudie> how can i get libgd2-xpm tlak to php ?
[22:26] <kindofabuzz_> core_: gnome-look.org
[22:26] <Svenstaro> core_, can you be a little
[22:26] <Svenstaro> core_, can you be a little more specific
[22:26] <hischild> BobTheBruin, uhm ... couple dozen ways? though they're most rather unlikely to happen
[22:27] <owh> I started in 2006 with a tar-ball install of Eclipse and eventually found that it was also available as a package. While my tar-ball install is now ancient, it still works much better than the package. Examples: php editor crashes, no updates, system editor fails. Is this "normal" or should I throw away my tar-ball + configs, and reinstall the package?
[22:27] <hischild> BobTheBruin, might be an update failing to install as it should.
[22:27] <core_> Svenstaro, you know when you watch the movies they show the linux desktop with a huge terminal there, maybe one menu and a really cool system monitor?
[22:27] <BobTheBruin> hischild: that is my guess.... is there is fund that I can donate to for the volunteers here?
[22:27] <BobTheBruin> what a great service you all do
[22:27] <hischild> BobTheBruin, try !helpersnack ;-)
[22:28] <Svenstaro> core_, what you want is most likely the quake style dropdown linux console, its a fullscreen terminal activated by a keypress :)
[22:28] <Lokii-> core_ may i pm you?
[22:28] <BobTheBruin> !helpersnack
[22:28] <ubotu> Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!
[22:28] <b0x> lol
[22:28] <core_> Lokii-, sure, im not registerd with irc so i don't know if it will work.
[22:28] <Kadotus> Hi, can anyone help a linuxnewbie with a videocard problem
[22:28] <core_> Lokii-, lemme register real quick.
[22:28] <sebas891> resolved!
[22:28] <BobTheBruin> that looked like a newb thing to do
[22:28] <nextstep> Hello everyone I am having an issue with my wireless network being locked to 1mb ... can anyone help ?
[22:28] <Lokii-> i am tho
[22:28] <hischild> Kadotus, if you tell us the problem with your videocard we might be able to help
[22:28] <kindofabuzz_> Lokii-: invalid option R
[22:28] <JarG0n> Svenstaro> is there such a terminal ?
[22:29] <Svenstaro> yup
[22:29] <b0x> i dident know u could lock your Network card to a certain speed
[22:29] <hischild> BobTheBruin, not really. I personally appriciate the gesture as it's a way of saying thanks =)
[22:29] <JarG0n> Svenstaro> What's the package?
[22:29] <Svenstaro> JarG0n google for linux quake style console
[22:29] <Svenstaro> dunno
[22:29] <JarG0n> cool
[22:29] <evilgnome> is aptitude supposed to support color output for command-line use (because it's all plain for me)? and is there a way to stop aptitude output from cutting lines off when they're "too long"?
[22:29] <Kadotus> I put a new videocard (ATI Radeon [RV280], and installed the drivers, but now everything works very slow
[22:29] <Kadotus> ~280 fps
[22:29] <hischild> kindofabuzz_, what command? if you're trying to do it recursively, use -R. Also, for moving a folder you don't need -R
[22:29] <b0x> latest drives Kadotus
[22:29] <b0x> ?
[22:29] <BobTheBruin> hischild: well thank you very much then.  As I get better, I will do my best to come back and help others
[22:29] <b0x> try rolling them back?
[22:29] <neopsyche> Lokii-, how does that allow all windows computers on my network to connect to ubuntu machine?
[22:30] <kindofabuzz_> kk
[22:30] <Lokii-> oh
[22:30] <Kadotus> b0x: dunno, How do I check?
[22:30] <Kadotus> b0x: Being a complete rookie..
[22:30] <Lokii-> thought you wanted to mount the windows boxen to your linux machine
[22:30] <hischild> BobTheBruin, you're more then welcome. Most of what i know comes from this channel ;-)
[22:30] <b0x> im abit of a rookie myself, but if u install the drivers off a CD it should have a verson number with it
[22:30] <sstoveld> hey guys, is there a hoykey to take a screenshot?
[22:30] <b0x> go on radeon site and check to see if there the latest
[22:31] <neopsyche> Lokii-, i want to be able to access drives on both machines
[22:31] <neopsyche> Lokii-,vice versa
[22:31] <hischild> sstoveld, try the print screen button. You'll love it.
[22:31] <freebird> printscreen?
[22:31] <sstoveld> print screen works ubuntu too? cool
[22:31] <geokok> How can I change sound juicer with asunder when inserting an audio cd?
[22:31] <b0x> h4x0r
[22:31] <Lokii-> yeah its the one abopve the insert butten that i want to cut from my keyboard
[22:31] <sstoveld> does alt-printscreen work for single window screenshots?
[22:31] <Kadotus> b0x, I installed drivers via synaptic. And somebody else told me that with linux I shouldn't download anything from there.
[22:32] <Kadotus> I mean ati:s website
[22:32] <freebird> try and let me know...have tried it myself
[22:32] <b0x> oh ok
[22:32] <b0x> thay probly dont support linux?
[22:32] <freebird> haven't tried it myself I mean
[22:32] <neopsyche> Lokii-, i just wanted to know .. does the uncomment mean remove ; ?
[22:32] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, recapping all you've seen so far and comparing it with windows, how do you like ubuntu so farß
[22:32] <sebastorama> I want to upgrade my ubuntu from 7.10 to the new beta. How can I do this using apt?
[22:32] <hischild> sstoveld, there's an option you can use in compiz. It lets you hold down a key combination and then drag a window. That window will be captured so you can even select a small partion of it.
[22:32] <Kadotus> b0x, hmm, dunno.. googling didn't help me.
[22:32] <hischild> !hardy | sebastorama
[22:32] <ubotu> sebastorama: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[22:32] <freebird> yes alt-printscreen does get active window
[22:33] <sstoveld> Svenstaro, im loving it
[22:33] <Lokii-> kadotus .. whoever you were talking to hasn't got a clue what there talking about since synaptics is simple a gui to apt which is the officially supported binaries for the os
[22:33] <Svenstaro> cool stuff
[22:33] <b0x> might have to ask someone else mate, id suggest rolling back your drivers to wat thay was before if the newer ones arnt an improvement
[22:33] <hischild> Kadotus, you should not use envy or automatix. Those are evil.
[22:33] <nextstep> Hello everyone I am having an issue with my wireless network being locked to 1mb ... can anyone help ?
[22:33] <Kadotus> hischild: I don't even know what they are. :D:D
[22:33] <Svenstaro> nextstep, you mean netspeed?
[22:34] <hischild> Kadotus, when you see someone suggest it, put them on ignore ;-)
[22:34] <hischild> !automatix > Kadotus
[22:34] <Kadotus> :P
[22:34] <hischild> !envy > Kadotus
[22:34] <nextstep> svenstaro:  no the actual card is set to 1mb .. and will not go to 54mb
[22:34] <hischild> Kadotus, see pm from ubotu.
[22:34] <sstoveld> Svenstaro, for some reason, when the computer creates a new item on the desktop, for some reason it goes on my secondary monitor's desktop instead of primary's. is there a way to change that?
[22:34] <Kadotus> k
[22:34] <geokok> how can I change a default app (sound juicer --> asunder) ??
[22:34] <Svenstaro> !evil
[22:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about evil - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:34] <sstoveld> Svenstaro, like when i take a screenshot and save it, it saves to my secondary monitor
[22:34] <artenius2> !resolution
[22:34] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[22:34] <hischild> Svenstaro, we should so much have that factoid
[22:34]  * artenius2 sighs
[22:35] <arnath> hi, maybe not the best place, but does anyone know any fun boardgames that can easily be played between a linux computer and a windows computer? :)
[22:35]  * b0x smacks artenius2 with a red Swingline stapler
[22:35] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, the problem to begin with is that physicially your screens are in the wrong position
[22:35] <teo-> hi.. when i am connecting to wireless network with the ndiswrapper and the windows drivers i can join that network.. but when i use bcm43xx module which is completly configurated and it has firmware i cant connect :S why ?
[22:35] <cdleary> how do I create a new gdm session on display 1?
[22:35] <freebird> I like scrabulous...play it before the boys who made it go to jail :-)
[22:36] <sstoveld> Svenstaro, oh i see
[22:36]  * b0x sends some DDoS in freebird's direction
[22:36] <orudie> how can i compile libgd2 into php ?
[22:36] <Malik_> hey can some1 help me iam not able to reinstall ubuntu
[22:36] <b0x> wat do u mean?
[22:36] <hischild> Malik_, what seems to be the problem? any error messages?
[22:37] <Malik_> well its a long sotry
[22:37] <b0x> change your boot order?
[22:37] <b0x> boot from CD
[22:37] <Malik_> i ahd ubuntu at first
[22:37] <Malik_> had*
[22:37] <Malik_> and then i donot know wat happ. everytime i turned i on i got a black screen
[22:37] <nextstep> svenstaro:  this is what i mean Bit Rate=1 Mb/s
[22:37] <hischild> b0x, try adding nicknames to whoever you're talking to. It makes things a lot easier to read.
[22:38] <Malik_> and now iam not even able to install it
[22:38] <Malik_> either it freezes
[22:38] <dn4ia> Does anyone know of a good video editor in linux that does visuals and audio effects?
[22:38] <hischild> dn4ia, if you're up for some compiling, you can try to use lives.
[22:38] <Malik_> or when it runs it takes me to a black screen
[22:38] <dn4ia> !lives
[22:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lives - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:38] <snmpee> (lives sucks)
[22:38] <snmpee> sorry to break it to you
[22:38] <Kadotus> Hmm, let's put it this way: How do I install correct drivers for My new ATI Raden 9200 [RV280] ? :D
[22:39] <sorsis> how to mount .iso as drive without burning it to disk?
[22:39] <Jaffarkelshac> so nautilus is to explorer, what about X or Xserver
[22:39] <hischild> sorsis, mount -o loop /isofile.iso /media/mount/location
[22:39] <propdude2000> !isomount
[22:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about isomount - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:39] <dn4ia> hischild, it has sunburst on it
[22:39] <dn4ia> works for me
[22:39] <snmpee> that's like saying that GIMP is as good as photoshop. it simply is not true.
[22:39] <Lokii-> soris
[22:40] <Lokii-> theres a package fireiso or something like that
[22:40] <hischild> snmpee, i've heard good stories about it so far. Seen some very impressive vids from it. Also appears to be quite powerfull.
[22:40] <Elevator_Hazard> How do I get wakeonlan actually working? I have On LAN turned on in my bios and I've done the automatic thing at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=234588 but it still doesn't work.
[22:40] <pike_> Kadotus: youll want the opensource drivers for the 9200 not the binary
[22:40] <Flare183> I'm back everybody
[22:40] <unop> Jaffarkelshac, but nautilus, X and Xserver are all *nix terms, it's hard to find logic with that question, if you know what i mean :)
[22:40] <Kadotus> pike_: How do I do that?
[22:40] <snmpee> hischild sorry man, it's just not as good as Vegas
[22:40] <pike_> !ati | Kadotus may help
[22:40] <ubotu> Kadotus may help: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[22:40] <pike_> Kadotus: ive never had an ati card myself
[22:41] <hischild> snmpee, vegas is a professional tool, developed for commercial use. Lives is an opensource program. Can you really expect it to be the same?
[22:41] <Lokii-> and my last ati card was back when the 9800 pro's were out and it did not like linux
[22:41] <snmpee> hischild that's why i'm more interested in WINE development so i can use these apps on a stable os
[22:41] <Lokii-> at all
[22:41] <hischild> snmpee, also, different does not mean better.
[22:41] <Malik_> can sany1 hep me!
[22:41] <Malik_> help*
[22:41] <Jaffarkelshac> unop am new to ubuntu just trying to understand. i asked someone what nautilus was and said it was like explorer
[22:41] <Lokii-> only distro i could boot was mandrake
[22:41] <hischild> Jaffarkelshac, that is correct.
[22:41] <hischild> Malik_, have you tried to boot from a cd?
[22:41] <unop> Jaffarkelshac, yes, it is like explorer in the way it browses directories, lists files, etc
[22:42] <Malik_> boot from cd?
[22:42] <Malik_> wat do u mean
[22:42] <hischild> Malik_, yes. Where did you install ubuntu from?
[22:42] <Lokii-> grab the livecd and boot from that
[22:42] <Malik_> cd
[22:42] <Malik_> i tried live cd and the other 1
[22:42] <snmpee> Malik_: the CD you used to install with will boot to a desktop that you can use to access your system
[22:42] <Lokii-> ok bye bye for a bit
[22:43] <artenius2> something still isn't right, no windows have titlebars, and the terminal is stilla blank white window when I open it.
[22:43] <Malik_> i know thats the live cd but its not botting
[22:43] <Lokii-> artenius
[22:43] <unop> cdleary, i think the command you want is -- gdmflexichooser
[22:43] <nextstep> artenius2:  are you using beryl ?
[22:43] <Malik_> it runs but when the loading screen for ubuntu is there it freezes
[22:43] <artenius2> nextstep: compiz
[22:43] <Lokii-> do "sudo metacity --replace&"
[22:43] <Malik_> or it gets a black screen after it with all this stuff
[22:43] <hischild> Malik_, are you sure it is loading the cd and not the installed one?
[22:44] <LDS_Trooper> greets
[22:44] <nextstep> artenius2:  that is a known bug ... when you switch back to metacity does it still happen ?   sudo metacity --replace
[22:44] <Malik_> yes...the installed one is gone i formatted
[22:44] <artenius2> Lokii-: where do I put that since the terminal window is blank/white
[22:44] <hischild> artenius, hit alt+f2
[22:44] <LDS_Trooper> is there anyway to retrieve something from the trash after it has bee emptied???
[22:44] <Lokii-> artenius what he said
[22:44] <Lokii-> LoL
[22:44] <hischild> Lokii-, sorry, just trying to help out :p
[22:44] <nextstep> LDS_Trooper:  pretty much no way to uninstall in linux on ext3
[22:44] <SilverDawn> Hey
[22:44] <artenius2> now things look right
[22:44] <Slart> LDS_Trooper: not really.. there is an undelete utility for ext2..
[22:45] <nextstep> undelete i mean
[22:45] <Lokii-> np i wanna go get soimething to eat
[22:45] <artenius2> how can I keep it like this?
[22:45] <pike_> !recover | LDS_Trooper
[22:45] <sstoveld> does anyone know if irfanview is compatible with linux
[22:45] <ubotu> LDS_Trooper: Some tools to recover lost data are listed and explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery - Remember that it's tricky to recover deleted files from your journalled !filesystem, and you should keep !backups of important data.
[22:45] <Lokii-> be my guest
[22:45] <sstoveld> ?
[22:45] <Slart> LDS_Trooper: but I'm guessing you're using ext3.. so.. nope.. it's gone..
[22:45] <kindofabuzz_> LDS_Trooper: right click  > open> drag what you want to desktop
[22:45] <hischild> Lokii-, go ahead, i'll take over for you till you get back (then i'll get food :P )
[22:45] <LDS_Trooper> ok thanks....
[22:45] <pike_> sstoveld: im pretty sure it works in wine but isnt native
[22:45] <Slart> sstoveld: compatible? you mean if there is a linux-version?
[22:45] <kindofabuzz_> oh did you empty trash already?
[22:45] <Lokii-> god i hope it doesn't take that long to fix his 1 problem
[22:45] <tripps> ok since last reboot, my sd card on my shuttle no longer works. could someone help me diagnose?
[22:45] <sstoveld> Slart, yes
[22:45] <artenius2> How can I switch back to compiz-fusion?
[22:45] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, irfanview is 100% linux compatible
[22:45] <LDS_Trooper> kindofabuzz_, I emptied the trash so it is gone now
[22:45] <hischild> Lokii-, i'm lost ... what was his problem again?
[22:45] <orudie> how can i compile libgd2 into php ?
[22:46] <Slart> sstoveld: well.. check the irfanview site..
[22:46] <evil_tech> stupid question time: where can I find examples of how Linux is used in a production environment? particularly how it compares to user management on windows server/clients.
[22:46] <sstoveld> pike_, im new to ubuntu, i dont know what wine is lol
[22:46] <Lokii-> no titlebars
[22:46] <unop> LDS_Trooper, you could try the undelete thing for ext2 that Slart suggested -- ext3 is basically ext2
[22:46] <artenius2> my problem is I hooked up a new monitor
[22:46] <artenius2> it worked fine until I rebooted
[22:46] <hischild> Lokii-, ah that ... remove emerald would fix that ... or some nice additions to xorg.conf
[22:46] <magnetron> LDS_Trooper: you could try to use "foremost", but no success guaranteed and it's quite tricky
[22:46] <LDS_Trooper> its not life and death.. I have an older back up of the document and can pick it up from there
[22:46] <LDS_Trooper> thanks tho
[22:47] <freebird> what type of production environment? I run linux in a school?
[22:47] <pike_> sstoveld: wine basically lets you install and run windows executables but there are an awful lot of linux image viewers out there id suggest trying one of em.
[22:47] <rodrigth> i am trying to set up VNC to manage a desktop remotely, connection that i'm trying to connect to is on AT&T adsl, ports have been opened on the router, i can ping the IP, but trying to connect with VNC just times out
[22:47] <artenius2> I just want things back to the way they were with the other monitor.
[22:47] <unop> LDS_Trooper, its worth a try with undelete -- if it succeeds, you have your docs back, if not, you can always go back to your backups
[22:47] <magnetron> LDS_Trooper: you made a backup? that will save you a lot of time and work
[22:47] <LDS_Trooper> thanks again guys! This channel is great!
[22:47] <Elevator_Hazard> Why might wake on lan not work right? I ran a script I found on the ubuntu forums http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=234588 but it still doesn't work - I enabled it on my bios I think it just said... On LAN [Power On]... Shouldnt' I also see the little light on my router still on for the computer even when its off?
[22:48] <Lokii-> !wine | sstoveld
[22:48] <ubotu> sstoveld: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[22:48] <sstoveld> pike_, oh ok i see, is wine already installed on my computer then? or do i need to install it or what? sorry for the newb questions!
[22:48] <hischild> artenius2, you mean as in, you want the old setup back? You can always try to do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ... though it might not fix your problem. Do you have emerald installed?
[22:48] <LDS_Trooper> magnetron, yeah I have a back up from yesterday...
[22:48] <magnetron> unop: keep in mind that ext3 overwrites the pointers to the old files, as opposed to ext2.
[22:48] <Rithirong> hi guys, is this the place that I can ask for the command line? I'm new to Linux.
[22:48] <pike_> sstoveld: see Lokii-'s link above
[22:48] <sstoveld> Lokii-, thanks
[22:48] <magnetron> Rithirong: just ask
[22:48] <hischild> rodrigth, may i note that vnc in itself is unsecure and should probably be tunneled via ssh?
[22:48] <LDS_Trooper> OK guys I have a client waiting.. thanks again
[22:48] <Rithirong> wha'ts the command that let you see the file created from the specific date
[22:49] <Lokii-> ls -ls
[22:49] <freebird> ls -al
[22:49] <Rithirong> specific date?
[22:49] <artenius2> hischild: I don't know for sure. I was running gnome and compiz-fusion, switching monitors is what caused all this. When I rebooted my resolution was horribe and I had a new login screen. I managed to get the resolution sorted but things still don't look right.
[22:49] <Lokii-> all info
[22:49] <propdude2000> blah
[22:49] <SilverDawn> Hey, Im trying to get compiz working, I have it started but like usual i have no boarders, I just cant remember how to fix it
[22:49] <SilverDawn> Any ideas?
[22:49] <propdude2000> no
[22:49] <Lokii-> silverdawn #compiz-fusion
[22:49] <Lokii-> thnxz
[22:50] <Rithirong> like... ls -march 11 << something like that
[22:50] <hischild> artenius, can you pastebin your xorg.conf for me?
[22:50] <hischild> SilverDawn, i'm in the process of helping artenius fixing it.
[22:50] <backtracker> hi any command to obtain my distribution name and version?
[22:50] <artenius2> !pastebin
[22:50] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[22:50] <SilverDawn> hischild, theres a command to start the gtk window decorator i just dont remember what it is
[22:50] <rodrigth> hischild: I intend on connecting via ssh once i am able to get the vnc client to connect, trying to connect with ssh gives: connection refused (havent opened the port yet)
[22:50] <cyclonut> Silencedbear, I believe the command is something along the lines of 'emerald --replace'
[22:51] <SilverDawn> If your using emerald
[22:51] <hischild> SilverDawn, there might be some complications on that. Emerald seems to be causing a lot of trouble on it.
[22:51] <nextstep> can anyone help me with this wireless issue?  My wireless card will only connect at 1mb.
[22:51] <Zalker> hello ubuntu channel
[22:52] <evil_tech> well i have a bunch of old poweredge 2450 servers and one Hp proliant behemoth (in comparison to the poweredges) and was wondering what to do with them all. i can't find a copy of server 2003 to run on them so i was thinking of throwing linux on them
[22:52] <magnetron> nextstep: if the signal strength is too low, that is what will happen.
[22:52] <hischild> evil_tech, that sounds like aplan
[22:52] <cyclonut> nextstep, Intel wifi on Hardy?
[22:52] <s0cks> evil_tech, I had a poweredge 1300. :P
[22:52] <evil_tech> lol
[22:52] <dns-away> ;-0
[22:52] <freebird> my mind is blank...what is the stream editor that isn't sed...begins with g I think?
[22:52] <artenius2> hischild: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/61066/
[22:53] <unop> Rithirong, see the -ctime and -mtime options to find  --- man find
[22:53] <evil_tech> i have 4 2450's with 512mb ram each 2 733mhz p3's
[22:53] <dns-away> help install ipv6 on Ubuntu server ;-)
[22:53] <dns-away> Give ROOT & PASS -> :)
[22:53] <dns-away> THANKS YOU
[22:53] <dns-away> ;]
[22:53] <artenius2> hischild: I think I see part of the problem already
[22:53] <kindofabuzz_> how do you run a .deb from cl?
[22:53] <Svenstaro> dpkg -i yourdeb.deb
[22:53] <unop> kindofabuzz_, you install one via -- sudo dpkg -i /path/to/file.deb
[22:54] <kindofabuzz_> thanks
[22:54] <hischild> artenius2, alright... you can also try to add 2 things under device: Option "AddARGBVisuals" "True" and Option "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True"
[22:54] <evil_tech> so what is the linux equivalent to a domain?
[22:54] <sstoveld> pike_, that link explains how to add the universe repository in an older version of ubuntu, is there a newer one?
[22:54] <unop> freebird, grep?
[22:54] <kindofabuzz_> hmm i don't have dkpg on my server? apt-get install dkpg?
[22:54] <dns-away> HELP config ipv6 settigns
[22:54] <dns-away> ;]
[22:55] <Svenstaro> kindofabuzz_ you WILL have dpkg on it, apt NEEDS it
[22:55] <kindofabuzz_> command not found
[22:55] <j3kyl1> Can't play dvd's.... have tried install totem, vlc, mplayer... what is wrong?
[22:55] <Svenstaro> sudo dpkg?
[22:55] <hischild> artenius2, you should also see if, when you run emerald by hand, it makes  a change.
[22:56] <unop> kindofabuzz_, ls -l /usr/bin/dpkg
[22:56] <kindofabuzz_> oh i i did dkpg insteak of dpkg
[22:56] <freebird> who was asking about searching files for dates...nasty solution but you could do ls -al | grep "2008-03"
[22:56] <freebird> if you get my drift
[22:56] <mage__> any one here an expert on nut?
[22:56] <mage__> I'm wondering if I really need to be running upsmon along with upsd
[22:57] <j3kyl1> Can't play dvd's.... have tried install totem, vlc, mplayer... what is wrong?
[22:57] <mage__> did you install any decss stuffs?
[22:57] <kindofabuzz_> anyway to auto resolve .deb dependancys command line?
[22:57] <evil_tech> j3kyl1: you install libdvdcss, libdvdread, libdvdnav?
[22:57] <danand> !dvd | j3kyl1
[22:57] <ubotu> j3kyl1: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[22:57] <endo_> I am having the biggest headache with installing my Belkin Wirelss-G USB adaptor
[22:57] <artenius2> hischild: I added those lines to device
[22:57] <freebird> can you see the files on the dvd in nautilus?
[22:57] <endo_> can someone please help me
[22:57] <unop> freebird, find has -mtime and -ctime options -- so you can say  find /path -mtime +5  -- finds files older than 5 days
[22:58] <hischild> artenius2, then restart x to see if it made a diff
[22:58] <artenius2> ok
[22:58] <tsrchristopher> Lokii-, message me again plz
[22:58] <freebird> endo_:what's problem
[22:58] <unop> kindofabuzz_, best you use apt-get to sort that out for you -- otherwise you need to manually install all the dependencies
[22:58] <j3kyl1> ubotu : i've tried installing libdvdcss2 but i can't get the package for mediubuntu
[22:58] <endo_> freebird: cannot connect to it
[22:58] <endo_> brb one second
[22:59] <kindofabuzz_> ok, so no auto install deps with dpkg?  i just had a .deb i wanted to install on server
[22:59] <pulpfiction> what the hell .. i change my dns servers on network-admin and when i reboot, my custom dns servers are gone .. how can i make my changes permanent?
[23:00] <free1> where in the file system are the firefox favorites located?  I need to back up my data.
[23:00] <evil_tech> j3kyl1:medibuntu isnt a package its a repository
[23:00] <freebird> unop: missed your earlier comment find...quite right...was aware my solution was crap :-)
[23:00] <unop> free1, ~/.mozilla/firefox/
[23:00] <evil_tech> free1:use the foxmarks plugin
[23:00] <kindofabuzz_> free: /home/<user>/.mozilla
[23:01] <free1> thanks!
[23:01] <j3kyl1> evil_tech : well i need to get to that repository to get the ..dvdcss2 to play dvds  but i can't get the repository... what do i do?
[23:01] <artenius2> hischild: I think that may have fixed it
[23:02] <hischild> artenius2, great to hear
[23:02] <evil_tech> j3kyl1:why cant you get the repository
[23:02] <evil_tech> j3kyl1:www.medibuntu.org
[23:02] <unop> freebird, its not crap -- it works but you can never trust what ls gives you + ls | grep "2008-03" will spit out lines that contain that term, and that doesnt necessarily translate to a date, it could be the name of a file itself, etc, etc
[23:02] <artenius2> hischild: I got some weird error when I restarted, about the gnome daemon,  it said it would fix it when I restarted x again, so I did. and I got no error
[23:02] <j3kyl1> evil_tech : ill post the error hold on
[23:03] <hischild> artenius2, great news :-)
[23:03] <artenius2> hischild: thanks a lot ;)
[23:04] <kindofabuzz_> well that,s weird, apt-get the dependancys, then it installed that .deb at the end automatically without me telling it to
[23:04] <hischild> artenius2, you're welcome
[23:04] <azexia1> should the halt command be, by default, powering off my machine after halting, or is there another command to use?
[23:04] <evil_tech> well so much for ubuntu server on the hurkin hp proliant
[23:04] <kestir__> Hi, how can I create a small text file simply from the command line without opening an editor? something like 'touch myfile < this text in the file'
[23:04] <tripps> ok since last reboot, my sd card on my shuttle no longer works. could someone help me diagnose? it was working great before.
[23:04] <unop> azexia1, shutdown or poweroff
[23:04] <unop> azexia1, shutdown is better
[23:04] <goshawk1> azexia1, shutdown -h now
[23:04] <freebird> azexial: are you saying halt isn't turning your machine off?
[23:04] <azexia1> kestir__:  echo "" > /file
[23:05] <kestir__> azexia1: ahhh! thanks a lot
[23:05] <azexia1> upop goshawk1 thanks
[23:05] <azexia1> kestir__ np =)
[23:05] <pulpfiction> anyone, please?
[23:05] <azexia1> freebird: yes, it's quie an old machine though
[23:05] <unop> kestir, or simply -- touch file
[23:06] <azexia1> pulpfiction: what do you need?
[23:06] <freebird> I think it is probably a hardware issue...power issues standards etc between hardware
[23:06] <kestir__> azexia1: is there a way to add line breaks?
[23:06] <pulpfiction>  change my dns servers on network-admin and when i reboot, my custom dns servers are gone .. how can i make my changes permanent?
[23:06] <pulpfiction> i*
[23:06] <kestir__> azexia1: like, create a list
[23:07] <unop> kestir, echo -e "foo\nbar\nbaz" > file
[23:07] <azexia1> kestir__ perhaps echo "item1" > file echo "\n" > file echo "item 2" >file
[23:07] <unop> sheesh
[23:07] <freebird> regarding shudown when I click 'quit' my box freezes for a minute before the quit dialogue window appears...any ideas? It makes the same delay on each occassion
[23:07] <azexia1> freebird: that's possible, I might have disabed apic...
[23:07] <Alchera> anyone can help with a whiz bang sata drive and an uncooperative grub?
[23:08] <pulpfiction> azexia1, any idea?
[23:09] <goshawk1> pulpfiction, when you change them do they show up as "nameserver" entries in /etc/network/interfaces?
[23:09] <Scunizi> I have a lot of music files that may have many duplicates.. is there an easy command line way of finding out?
[23:09] <kindofabuzz_> wow webmin is pretty cool
[23:09] <freebird> webmin is great
[23:09] <j3kyl1> evil_tech : i just gave up to easily... i think i got it to work lol i hate myself :P
[23:09] <kindofabuzz_> it's gonna make me lazy
[23:10] <freebird> especially when you have no window environment
[23:10] <Slart> Scunizi: if they are truly duplicates there are tools to find and delete them
[23:10] <kindofabuzz_> yeah using it for my guiless server
[23:10] <rryan> Scunizi : Are they identical copies ? i.e. bit for bit the files are equal, or are they two versions of the same song? Do they have similar or identical tags?
[23:10] <unop> Scunizi, delete the duplicates of sha1sums
[23:10] <azexia1> pulpfiction: dhcp tends to get nameservers auto, so when you reboot it might be they are changing, you could try making a /etc/network/interfaces file in gui, then save it somewhere, and make a quick script with cp interfaces /etc/network to restore it, but that's very messy :P
[23:10] <Slart> Scunizi: if they are the same song but at a different bitrate or something.. then it gets harder
[23:11] <Scunizi> rryan, unop Slart can it be done by file name
[23:11] <kindofabuzz_> whoever wrote webmin, kudos =)
[23:11] <SilverDawn> could someone tell me what the shortcut for the run dialog is. I cant remember for the life of me
[23:11] <hischild> Slart, you can always try to check for filenames, or properties of mp3 files.
[23:11] <Slart> Scunizi: I would say yes... but I don't know a good tool for it
[23:11] <sstoveld> anyone know where i can get some ubuntu themes? other than the default ones?
[23:11] <hischild> SilverDawn, alt+f2
[23:11] <azexia1> pulpfiction: or you could make the file read only to all, but that would be VERY silly, as nothing would be auto, either that or disable the auto changes...
[23:11] <unop> Scunizi, sure -- but if the file names dont match up exactly, then it's quite hard
[23:11] <freebird> kidofabuzz_: I think he has a book wishlist if you are feeling generous...that wa  afew years ago anyway
[23:12] <Scunizi> rryan, unop Slart perhaps by one of the keywords in the filename?
[23:12] <rryan> sstoveld : have you installed gnome-themes-extras ?
[23:12] <SilverDawn> Thanks
[23:12] <ScottONanski> !AWM
[23:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about awm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:12] <unop> Scunizi, is that keyword something you enter each time?
[23:12] <sstoveld> rryan, can i do that from synaptic?
[23:12] <ScottONanski> !Hello World
[23:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hello world - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:12] <hischild> sstoveld, yes you can.
[23:12] <rryan> sstoveld : yep, it includes a few more than the defaults. I like 'darklooks'
[23:12] <kestir__> sstoveld: that's how you install applications in ubuntu
[23:12] <Scunizi> unop, no. it would just be a unique word in the name
[23:12] <pulpfiction> azexia1, yeah, that sounds messing ;)
[23:12] <sstoveld> ok thanks guys
[23:13] <rryan> sstoveld : also you can go here  : http://art.gnome.org/themes
[23:13] <azexia1> if dhcp changes it by default though, unless you can disable such behaviour I don't know what other choice you may have
[23:13] <kindofabuzz_> webmin is gonna save me headaces setting up apache by command line lol
[23:13] <sstoveld> rryan, thanks, installing now :D
[23:14] <pulpfiction> azexia1, do you have any idea why goshawk1 asked about the /etc/network/interfaces file?
[23:14] <pulpfiction> because when i added my new dns servers, that file is not edited
[23:14] <pulpfiction> i just checked it
[23:14] <unop> Scunizi, well, it's hard -- consider two files, how do you tell "Tuxedo Blues" apart from "Blue Monday" if blue was a keyword ?
[23:14] <sstoveld> rryan, Darktools looks very nice, thanks :)
[23:14] <freebird> kindofabuzz_: it's good for samba and being lazy about crontab
[23:14] <Scunizi> unop, blue?
[23:14] <hischild> rryan, thanks for that theme pack. Didn't have it.
[23:15] <kindofabuzz_> freebird: yeah i see that
[23:15] <azexia1> pulpfiction: it really should be, that sounds like a bug, I can't remember the exact file though, it might not be that one that stores the name servers...
[23:15] <pulpfiction> azexia1, my new dns are stored correctly at /etc/resolv.conf
[23:16] <pulpfiction> but that file is updated when i reboot
[23:16] <unop> Scunizi, ok, forget the example, it's not easy -- best way would be to generate the md5sum or sha1sum of all the files - and then delete duplicates based on that hash or checksum
[23:16] <pulpfiction> # generated by NetworkManager, do not edit!
[23:16] <Scunizi> unop, good start.. how do I do that?
[23:16] <ogre> is there a color profile app for ubuntu?
[23:16] <freebird> I'm off to watch Galactica...still on season 3. I'll leave before any of you bad ones tell me the storyline :-)
[23:17] <unop> Scunizi, just a sec
[23:17] <Scunizi> unop, k
[23:17] <azexia1> pulpfiction: ah yes, that's the one, is that getitng changed on restart?
[23:17] <Slart> ogre: I don't think so.. I've heard that being mentioned as one of the big things lacking for linux.. but it's only second hand knowledge.. there might be something out there
[23:17] <pulpfiction> yes, reloaded
[23:18] <evil_tech> anyone know what causes grub to spit out an error 17: unable to mount selected partition
[23:18] <pulpfiction> azexia1, https://help.ubuntu.com/7.10/server/C/network-configuration.html
[23:18] <azexia1> pulpfiction: stupid question, sorry, perhaps just have it copy that file on restart, you could add that as a startup on gnome, or as a startup on init.d, either are very easy, that is the easiest and laziest way, the other is to find out the sole problem, and fix it, but being lazy, as I am :p
[23:18] <pulpfiction> The changes you make in /etc/resolv.conf  will be erased when you reboot your machine. If you want to make this change permanent, you should install resolvconf package from the Universe repository and update the DNS information in the /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base  file provided by that package.
[23:18] <Slart> evil_tech: google for it.. afaik, googling any grub error code gets you hundreds of hits.. half of those for ubuntu.. =)
[23:18] <CJS3141> Can anybody help me installing this program? I run "configure" and it says "ERROR: libpcap not found!
[23:18] <CJS3141> Please specify their location with --with-pcap-libs."  I have libpcap installed, but I'm not sure of the correct syntax to feed the configure command. Can anyone help?
[23:18] <azexia1> pulpfiction: looks like you've found the solution :d
[23:19] <hischild> CJS3141, what are you trying to install?
[23:19] <pulpfiction> azexia1, yeah, but you got admit it's awkward
[23:19] <pulpfiction> :)
[23:19] <paperless> it feels good to say something in a channel with over 1200 users
[23:19] <Slart> evil_tech: I'm guessing you somehow moved your drives around.. or added a new drive
[23:19] <CJS3141> hischild: a program called "roguescanner"
[23:19] <Tixer> I have two identical drives. How can I make sure they always mount in certain places?
[23:19] <evil_tech> nope its a fresh install
[23:19] <Slart> !uuid | Tixer
[23:19] <ubotu> Tixer: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[23:19] <pulpfiction> Tixer, what do you mean?
[23:19] <azexia1> pulpfiction: yeah, my method was far cleaner :d
[23:20] <jimrim> What is the proper program to use to watch BBC?
[23:20] <Slart> Tixer: I think the UUID's will be different even if they are the same brand and model
[23:20] <Tixer> Slart: That's the problem. They have the same UUID.
[23:20] <hischild> CJS3141, did you install the -dev versions of libpcap as well?
[23:20] <tunganet> Can anyone tell me if Wine doors will work properly on 7.10 or how I can uninstall it? Thanks
[23:20] <evil_tech> what i've found about ubuntu on this proliant its supposed to be pretty much install and ta da working system
[23:21] <SilverDawn> Heres a question, According to the screens dialog im running at 50 for a refreshrate im soposed to be at 75...
[23:21] <SilverDawn> How do i change that when its not listed
[23:21] <sstoveld> hey guys, how come i cant open a .jpg file? Error interperating JPEG image file (not a JPEG file, starts with 0x89 0x50)
[23:21] <Slart> Tixer: huh.... but.. how.. why... why do we even use UUID's then..
[23:21] <barslow> can someone please tell me how to automatically mount my extra HD on startup?
[23:21] <Tixer> Both of my hard drives have the same UUID of S:WDCWD5000AAKS-00YGA0sector63-976768064
[23:21] <hischild> SilverDawn, that's a known bug. It is runnig at 75Hz
[23:21] <Slart> barslow: set it up in the file /etc/fstab
[23:21] <SilverDawn> according to my monitors diagnostic its only running at 60
[23:21] <CJS3141> hischild: no, is that the problem? I didn't think I need them to install my program, but am I totally wrong about that? I thought I just need the main libpcap package.
[23:21] <barslow> i tried...but im pretty stupid
[23:21] <barslow> i need help
[23:22] <tsrchristopher> is there an exquivilant to a batch file for ubuntu?
[23:22] <Sinnerman> tsrchristopher: bash/dash scripts.
[23:22] <hischild> CJS3141, you're trying to compile a program. When you do that, you need the -dev versions of the package as well. :-)
[23:22] <SilverDawn> so how do i go about boosting that to where it should be
[23:22] <CJS3141> hischild: :-) OK, I'll give it a try!
[23:22] <danand__> Tixer - are you sure? run blkid in a terminal
[23:23] <Moduliz0r> =] im cool
[23:23] <Moduliz0r> hehehe...
[23:23] <tsrchristopher> Sinnerman, where can i learn to make these?
[23:23] <tunganet> Can anyone tell me if Wine doors will work properly on 7.10 or how I can uninstall it? Thanks
[23:23] <j3kyll> so i just install or so i thought the ...dvdcss2 to play dvds but its still not working, how can i make sure everything is in order and see whats wrong?
[23:23] <Slart> Tixer: ok.. I've done some googling.. and the UUID's shouldn't be the same..
[23:23] <hischild> SilverDawn, your monitor is most likely already running at the best refresh rate.
[23:23] <Tixer> danand__: I get two unique numbers, unlike when I ran devlabel
[23:23] <SilverDawn> hischild, it runs at 75fps, always has :P
[23:23] <SilverDawn> Even on ubuntu
[23:23] <numus> anyone know why when checking for xgl: not present but i am using the ati restricted drivers
[23:23] <SilverDawn> between 72 and 75
[23:24] <Sinnerman> tsrchristopher: googling would probably give you a number of sites. try googling for +bash +linux
[23:24] <Xteven> !gdata
[23:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gdata - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:24] <JDSBlueDevl> hi, I'm having problems burning a DVD I authored under QDVDAuthor.  I'm trying to use dvdrecord, but I'm getting the "cannot open /dev/sg*" error.  What does that mean?
[23:24] <Xteven> !python-gdata
[23:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about python-gdata - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:24] <hischild> SilverDawn, then, despite the obvious wrong information, you'll have to trust me when i say it is running at 75hz
[23:24] <Xteven> mmmkay
[23:24] <Xteven> can anyone tell me how to use python-gdata ?
[23:24] <SilverDawn> hischild, why would my monitor tell me it was running at 60 then, Like... the monitor diagnostic button on the monitor itself
[23:25] <CMind> I, I've just updated my quad display workstation to 8.04 and Im not able to use my Matrox Parhelia and my NVidia together. Anyone had this issue using 8.04?
[23:25] <unop> Scunizi, something like this maybe -- perl -MFile::Find -le 'find(sub{chomp($_=`sha1sum $_ 2>/dev/null`);@_=(split /\s+/); if(my $sum=shift@_){ print shift @_ if $seen{$sum}++}},shift)' /path/to/file
[23:25] <Xteven> the bug database has a supposed fix for the problem I'm experiencing, but noone seems to bother to put the fix in the ubuntu package
[23:25] <Slart> Xteven: perhaps you should ask that question in a more python-related channel.. isn't there a #Python on this network?
[23:25] <pulpfiction> azexia1, there's also this one, which updates the dhcpd client
[23:25] <pulpfiction> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=405237
[23:25] <hischild> SilverDawn, good question. I have no idea tbh. Though it also seems wierd, i never have had any trouble with it.
[23:25] <rryan> CMind : Was your workstation working with all 4 displays on 7.10? How were they configured ? Separate X servers ? Xinerama ?
[23:25] <CMind> (I've tried to use my working xorg.conf from 7.10 but it doesnt work)
[23:25] <Xteven> Slart: its an ubuntu problem, not a python problem
[23:25] <pulpfiction> azexia1, i'm wondering now which one should i do :P
[23:25] <Scunizi> unop, cool.. I don't understand it but I'll copy it and learn.. thanks! :)
[23:25] <CMind> rryan: Xinerama
[23:25] <SilverDawn> ahh there we go
[23:26] <azexia1> pulpfiction: depends if your nameservers change often :p
[23:26] <SilverDawn> there was one listed as 50 and the other 51
[23:26] <SilverDawn> 51 puts it to 75 :)
[23:26] <unop> Scunizi, that just lists the duplicates, it doesnt delete them or do anything fancy -- the rest i'll leave upto you
[23:26] <rryan> CMind : Have you looked at your X server log files ? Any clues there ? Is it crashing or will it just not load ?
[23:26] <Tixer> Now that I have two unique numbers, what program can I use to set up mountpoints for them?
[23:26] <CJS3141> hischild: In general, when I install a program and it asks for something like libpcap (just as an example), in addition to the dev package, do I also need the main package? I would assume so, but I'm pretty ignorant about programming. :-)
[23:26] <pulpfiction> azexia1, nah.. i'm using opendns
[23:26] <yowshi> amenado: hischild hmmm i finalyl found the solution. though no thanks to either of you to the howto you think they could put the relevant information first instead of confusing me with options utf-8 which i dont need and dont care about
[23:27] <rryan> CMind: Have you tried running each monitor separately (or each video cards heads)? Is it possible you don't have the drivers the old xorg.conf used installed ?
[23:27] <Scunizi> unop, that's the beginning for me.. it helps a lot..
[23:27] <azexia1> pulpfiction: in that case, either my (easy) hack, or just do it the correct way :d
[23:27] <rahmen> I want to know how to get direct rendering working. fglrx says "direct rendering: No". To fix this, do I need to remove compiz? or can I run compiz at the same time? Does anyone have a guide for direct rendering..? That would be greatly appriciated. I have a radeon 9600 card... really could use some help..
[23:27] <tripps> could someone please help me with my sdcard reader on my shuttle pc? it worked fine until today
[23:27] <Slart> Xteven: ah.. didn't read all your posts.. the ubuntu package will probably be updated for the next version... or in a backport if someone thinks it's important enough
[23:27] <numus> whats the rename command in terminal
[23:27] <sensae> Okay, I need some help with ALSA. I have a friend whose sound works perfectly fine out of the box. I own the same motherboard, almost completely identical configuration and my sound doesn't work. I've tried using his /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base to no avail.
[23:27] <hischild> yowshi, you can insult us all you like. Both of us have offered to help you with terms you didn't understand, help which you refused.
[23:27] <Flannel> numus: rename, or mv
[23:27] <PyChild> numus, it's mv
[23:27] <unop> numus, there are two -- rename and mv
[23:27] <yowshi> amenado: and dude next time you tell a newbie to rtfm and he tells you he cant understand the manuals or the howto's you might want to consider not reiterating your command
[23:28] <Slart> Tixer: just use the regular /etc/fstab and use the UUID's instead of say /dev/sda2 and such..
[23:28] <CMind> rryan: something about space too big. Does 3x1280x1024 + 1360x768 's too much?
[23:28] <yowshi> hischild: you guys didnt offer to help. ylou told me to go fuck off and read a manual
[23:28] <Flannel> !language
[23:28] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[23:28] <yowshi> sorry flannel
[23:28] <Flannel> yowshi: No problem
[23:28] <CMind> rryan: I'll reproduce the error
[23:29] <hischild> yowshi, i offered you to explain any terms you didn't understand. You did _NOT_ come back to me with any questions after that. I have no idea what your problem is with me, but i'm not going to continue this discussion.
[23:29] <sensae> Does anyone know why alsa would work fine on one system, but won't work on an almost identical one?
[23:29] <Pickles> Anyone know where to get drivers for the Logitech 350 USB headset for Ubuntu 7.04?
[23:29] <yowshi> hischild: i dont NEED to know what utf-8 is do i? nor do i care what half the terms mean because they aint relevant to what i need. so blasting me with more irrelevant information ISNT going to help
[23:30] <joeyjojo> anyone have any experience with the gefore 8800gt on Ubuntu 7.10?
[23:30] <tunganet> Can anyone tell me if Wine doors will work properly on 7.10 or how I can uninstall it? Thanks
[23:30] <joeyjojo> Does it work out of the box?
[23:30] <hischild> yowshi, as i said: i am not going to continue this discussion.
[23:30] <Slart> sensae: alsa can break over things like one kernel module loading before another or such things.. with ubuntu you can't really be sure what device gets detected first..
[23:30] <sensae> :/
[23:30] <JDSBlueDevl> hi, I'm having problems burning a DVD I authored under QDVDAuthor.  I'm trying to use dvdrecord, but I'm getting the "cannot open /dev/sg*" error.  What does that mean?
[23:30] <ompaul> hischild,  yowshi, please don't reply to the other thanks ;-)
[23:30] <Flannel> yowshi: As a general rule of thumb (I have no idea what you all are talking about), if you don'
[23:30] <CJS3141> tunganet: I installed it just fine on 7.10--use synaptic.
[23:31] <ogre> i need to add screen resolutions to 1024x768 how would i do that?
[23:31] <Slart> !res | ogre
[23:31] <ubotu> ogre: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[23:31] <unop> Scunizi, this should find duplicates based on filename -- perl -MFile::Find -le 'find(sub{print $File::Find::name if $seen{$_}++ },shift)' /tmp
[23:31] <lichtgestalt> Hey there, I just bought a new Dell XPS. I really hate to say this but it only comes with Vista...
[23:31] <lichtgestalt> Now i want to install ubuntu, but partitions are all messed up. There are allready 4 partions. 117MB partion with
[23:31] <cellofellow> How do you get nautilus to show stuff I've mounted with fstab in the computer:/// window?
[23:31] <lichtgestalt> called dell utility
[23:31] <Flannel> yowshi: if you don't know, ask.  We don't know how much you do/don't know, and its not helpful to start out assuming you're completely nescient.  So you have to help us help you.
[23:31] <yowshi> (07:30:45 PM) Flannel: yowshi: As a general rule of thumb (I have no idea what you all are talking about), if you don'???
[23:31] <rodrigth> help with VNC, i get: unable to connect to host: Connection timed out (110)
[23:31] <mysticalone> I have a sata drive and I just added a ide drive and need to add the os from the new drive to grub, how do I know what hd it is?
[23:31] <tunganet> CJS3141, I have wine door installed, but after installing the applications that it offers, i cannot seem to run them.  Any thoughts?
[23:31] <lichtgestalt> one called OS - i know that one
[23:31] <Flannel> yowshi: ' and enter are stupidly close ;)
[23:31] <ompaul> !dualboot | lichtgestalt
[23:31] <sensae> This is driving me crazy, it's the only thing keeping me from using linux as a primary OS. I can't get my snd-hda-intel chipset working, and if I throw in my Audigy 2 it works, but when I boot into Windows it uses different ports for sound
[23:31] <ubotu> lichtgestalt: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[23:31] <lichtgestalt> and one called revery
[23:32] <JDSBlueDevl> hi, I'm having problems burning a DVD I authored under QDVDAuthor.  I'm trying to use dvdrecord, but I'm getting the "cannot open /dev/sg*" error.  What does that mean?
[23:32] <unop> Flannel, you must have an odd keyboard layout :)
[23:32] <cellofellow> I just have my one measly Vista drive. (I never actually use Vista.) It's mounted on /media/Windows but doesn't show in Nautilus.
[23:32] <CJS3141> tunganet: sorry, what do you mean "wine door"?
[23:32] <Scunizi> unop, thanks.. I'm horrible with things like this.. learning curve is high!
[23:32] <CMind> rryan: my nvidia working fine (1360x768 @ 24bit) and my Parhelia working fine in "TripleHead" 1280x768x3
[23:32] <yowshi> Flannel: the problrems with the man pages is they seem to be written for non newbs. and many of the how to's contain irrelevant information that would also not be of any concern to a newbie. it makes both of them virtually unuseable
[23:32] <lichtgestalt> does anyone know anything about the dell partition setup
[23:33] <lichtgestalt> what those are for
[23:33] <CMind> rryan: I'm not able to merge the to seperate file in one by putting the nvidia "Above" the Parhelia
[23:33] <lichtgestalt> which i can spare etc
[23:33] <Flannel> unop: I'd rather have ' than - next to enter, to be honest.  But, dvorak wouldn't be helpful in situations anyway.
[23:33] <tunganet> CJS3141, Wine door is supposed to help install windows applications with an easy interface.   http://www.wine-doors.org/wordpress/
[23:33] <the_giver> would fluxbox make a ubuntu install significantly faster
[23:33] <rryan> CMind : I see.. hang on i'm looking into the changes between xorg 7.3 and 7.2
[23:34] <unop> the_giver, faster in what sense?
[23:34] <Marupa> Is there any way to turn off middle-click paste?
[23:34] <endo_> can someone help me install my Belkin Wireless G USB Adaptor?
[23:34] <rryan> CMind : in the meantime could you post your old working xorg.conf into a pastebin ?
[23:34] <CJS3141> tunganet: why don't you just use the wine installer? right-click on the .exe installer file you downloaded for the program and select "open with wine"...
[23:34] <edugfr> Instalei o Cube. Está funcionando bem só que ao morrer o jogo trava. Alguem pode me ajudar?
[23:35] <Flannel> yowshi: We try and direct you to the wiki pages, which are much easier to digest than man pages.  But, usually they don't necessarily break down what you're doing piecewise.  For that, it's best to ask here (regarding specific commands/situations/etc).  Again, I have no idea what went on, but you do sometimes find people who aren't interested in explaining (only getting your question solved), you've just got to roll with it.
[23:35] <unop> !es | edugfr
[23:35] <ubotu> edugfr: En este canal, solamente hablamos ingles. Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[23:35] <daedra> how do I loop mount an image file to use as a ro filesystem?
[23:35] <Flannel> !iso | daedra
[23:35] <ubotu> daedra: To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[23:35] <CharminTheMoose> daedra, -o loop
[23:36] <rryan> CMind : And also possibly the error log for running that xorg.conf
[23:36] <tunganet> CJS3141, I am not sure if i can install Macromedia Flash, Photoshop, Internet explorer, Warcraft etc... by using wine (or it may be a hassle),  but wine doors seems to offer all of them with an ease of a click
[23:36] <edugfr> obrigado. Existe em portugues? pt
[23:36] <Flannel> !pt | edugfr
[23:36] <ubotu> edugfr: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[23:36] <bellkana_> I am interested in volunteering translating Ubuntu help/tech/any documents from English to Japanese.  Any openings for me?
[23:36] <daedra> CharminTheMoose: charming
[23:36] <daedra> :D
[23:36] <CMind> rryan: sure
[23:36] <Flannel> bellkana_: #ubuntu-jp is the Japanese LoCo team, they're the primary contact point for that (and if you can't get a satisfactory response, come back)
[23:37] <endo_> can someone help me install my Belkin Wireless G USB Adaptor?
[23:37] <unop> yowshi, if you take the initial pains to read the manpages, you'll begin to appreciate them more than any other sources of documentation -- they're sometimes written in terse language to get right to the point and be as brief as possible, so you dont have to do much scrolling  and that does save you loads of time
[23:37] <Flannel> bellkana_: Or actually, try also #ubuntu-doc
[23:37] <barslow> anyone interested in walking me through editting my FSTAB
[23:37] <Flannel> bellkana_: Both are good resources, and good starting points
[23:38] <yowshi> is it possible to get two hard drives to mount to thre same folder? like i have an ntfs formatted harddrive and a ext3 partition i would like both to be mounted to ~/home-data. is this possible and if so how
[23:38] <CMind> rryan: http://pastebin.com/d1ce14cf8 (7.10 config)
[23:38] <CJS3141> tunganet: be sure to check appdb.winehq.org to see which programs will even work with Wine. Internet explorer 7 does not, whereas 6.0 does for example. I'm not familar using wine door but using the wine installer is as easy as installing the apps in Windows.
[23:38] <rodrigth> sensae: what kind of sound card do you have?
[23:38] <Flannel> yowshi: No.
[23:38] <endo_> can someone help me install my Belkin Wireless G USB Adaptor?
[23:38] <bellkana_> Flannel: Thanks!
[23:38] <yowshi> Flannel: crapper. why isnt it
[23:38] <Flannel> mneptok: Beta support?
[23:39] <tunganet> CJS3141, already ,i guess i shouldnt try to take the easy way out :)
[23:39] <Flannel> yowshi: because that'd be a nightmare.  One mount per mount point
[23:39] <Lunks> How to restore a file which I accidentally forgot to backup using apt? :>
[23:39] <mneptok> Flannel: hrm?
[23:39] <ompaul> mneptok, hardy is beta now
[23:39] <mysticalone> Need help adding another OS to my GRUB menu
[23:39] <mneptok> ompaul: so?
[23:39] <azexia2> yowshi: i have that in effeect, i have two dirs, but i sym link all of one to another, so that it seems fromt he outside it's all one large dir, would that work?
[23:39]  * mneptok is missing something here ...
[23:39] <CharminTheMoose> yowshi, nope, it's not possible. sorry
[23:39] <daedra> and whilst i'm here, any special way to unmount a loop -o  iso
[23:39] <azexia2> youwshi effect*
[23:40] <CMind> rryan: Woh! now it work
[23:40] <Lunks> How to restore a file which I accidentally forgot to backup using apt? :>
[23:40] <CMind> rryan: I'll try to reboot
[23:40] <daedra> or just umount /my/path?
[23:40] <rryan> CMind : Cool :)
[23:40] <yowshi> azexia2: i dont understand what symlinking really is yet much less know how to do it
[23:40] <Flannel> Lunks: What do you mean?
[23:40] <CJS3141> tunganet: Well, wine is quite easy to use by itself--I really don't see how wine door would make it that much easier. But since you're not able to get wine door working, that's a pretty good reason to stick with the native wine installer! :-)
[23:40] <CharminTheMoose> azexia2, hm cool, can you explain it in more detail?
[23:40] <azexia2> yowshi: very simple, just think of it as a shortcut, but on a network share it would be invisible
[23:40] <daedra> !symlink|yowshi
[23:40] <ubotu> yowshi: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[23:40] <jokoon> Hello
[23:40] <danand__> yowshi - hello :)
[23:40] <daedra> what!?
[23:41] <unop> yowshi, you can have something like ~/data-dir/ntfs and ~/data-dir/ext2 and have both partitions mounted on them
[23:41] <Slart> Lunks: you can reinstall a package with sudo apt-get install --reinstall <packagename>  if that's what you mean
[23:41] <Lunks> Flannel: I edited /etc/init.d/mountudevfs.sh and now I'd like to restore it. :P
[23:41] <azexia2> CharminTheMoose:sure, everything from /Server/Films2/* is linked to /Server/Films/ it works very well, and means no one has to look in to dirs =)
[23:41] <CJS3141> tunganet: If you have anymore specific wine questions (not related necessarily to its interaction with ubuntu), try the channel #winehq
[23:41] <Lunks> Slart: But I don't know which package I have to reinstall.
[23:41] <Flannel> Lunks: dpkg -s /etc/init.d/mountudevfs.sh will show you what package its in, reinstall the package and it'll restore it.
[23:41] <Slart> Lunks: what file is it?
[23:41] <cellofellow> how does Nautilus decided what and what not to show in computer:///?
[23:41] <Flannel> Lunks: er, dpkg -S /etc/init.d/mountudevfs.sh
[23:41] <Lunks> Flannel: ok, great =D
[23:41] <Lunks> ok
[23:41] <jokoon> I have a sony ericsson cellphone and I just want to use my bluetooth device, what package should I install, some time ago I got an answer here and all I had to do was to type obex:// or something like that in the adress bar ...
[23:41] <CMind> rryan: Are you using a Parhelia, or have you ever used a parhelia? Cose the first time it load the driver the screen is acting weird (non readable character, meabe aliasing). When I hit the ctrl+alt+backspace the interface is ok.
[23:42] <CMind> rryan: sorry for my english :S
[23:42] <yowshi> daedra: ctrl+f symlink did not find symlinking on that page
[23:42] <rryan> CMind : I haven't used a Parhelia, sorry
[23:42] <aHappyJenny86> hi! I need some help anyone interested O:-)
[23:42] <rryan> CMind : I have a 4 head setup though, so that's why I tried to help :)
[23:42] <Lunks> Flannel: thanks for this precious command-line =D
[23:42] <unop> cellofellow, it asks the gnome-volume-manager what to display there
[23:42] <CMind> rryan: any experience with a need to hit the ctrl+alt+backspace to get the screen to work properly?
[23:42] <cellofellow> unop: how do I customize that?
[23:43] <azexia2> yowshi: if you want to symlink two things, you can just click and drag, then when the menu comes up, click 'make symbolic link' or you can do ln -s dir/file1 dir2, that would put a link of dir/file1 in dir2
[23:43] <CharminTheMoose> azexia2, hm, I thought you meant you had /foo and /bar symlinked into /foobar at the same time so that /foo/file and /bar/fille would appear as /foobar/fille and /foobar/file.
[23:43] <rodrigth> CMind: using the hotkey when screen locks up?
[23:43] <unop> cellofellow, you don't usually -- wat are you trying to achieve?
[23:43] <mneptok> azexia2: you should use fully qualified pathnames for symlinks, though
[23:43] <azexia2> CharminTheMoose: sorry to disapoint you =)
[23:43] <yowshi> azexia2: thanks
[23:43] <ejm> oh boy..I got a new laptop, and I'm having trouble with getting my wireless NIC working. It's an atheros chipset.
[23:43] <ejm> be back in a sec
[23:43] <azexia2> yowshi: no problem =)
[23:43] <cellofellow> unop: ntfs-3g partition is mounted on /media/Windows, and I just want it to show in Nautlis' Computer thingy.
[23:43] <CMind> rryan: Thank you for your time, I dont know why but now it work fine. I guess that I've installed new driver or something that resolve the issue :S
[23:44] <CharminTheMoose> azexia2, heh, maybe I should look into plan 9. :)
[23:44] <rryan> CMind : Nope, not sure why that would be. Is it just on the Parhelia card ? Seems like it could be a driver problem, as I don't see why running the x server a second time is different from the first unless there's some intermediate state left after teh first.
[23:44] <azexia2> CharminTheMoose: always =)
[23:44] <ejm> ok..now i'm back.
[23:44] <Lunks> Flannel: it didn't complain of anything, but it has not changed it back
[23:44] <J1m> should checking the install cd make the screen go blank?
[23:44] <yowshi> azexia2: when i drag and drop though no option to make a symlink is presentedc
[23:44] <aHappyJenny86> Pleassee help me!
[23:44] <Lunks> Flannel: if I remove it, will it work?
[23:44] <rryan> CMind : sometimes X is finicky :)
[23:44] <rodrigth> are my messages going into this IRC?
[23:44] <amenado> aHappyJenny86-> what was your nick earlier?
[23:45] <cellofellow> CMind: don't min rryan, cause checking the CD doesn't use X.
[23:45] <aHappyJenny86> barslow
[23:45] <azexia2> yowshi: sorry, i assumed you were using ubuntu (standard) but we can do this at the command line very easily, do you know how to open it, becuase i'm not to sure on edubuntu :p
[23:45] <cellofellow> unop: can I do that?
[23:45] <CMind> rodrigth: with my parhelia the every time gnome starts i've got weird behavior like cursor splitted in three part and weird "Matrox" splash screen... I hit the ctrl+alt+backspace and everything is ok after that
[23:45] <unop> cellofellow, is that partition mounted via /etc/fstab or manually ?
[23:45] <cellofellow> unop: fstab
[23:45] <yowshi> azexia2: i am using ubuntu 64
[23:45] <amenado> ah okay, whats up?
[23:45] <numus> whats the run hot key to run a command
[23:45] <AndyCR> numus: Alt+F2
[23:45] <rryan> Cellofellow : What do you mean checking the CD?
[23:45] <unop> cellofellow, hmm, i've never seen that happen
[23:46] <yowshi> azexia2: i am not using kubuntu or any of the *buntu's
[23:46] <Lunks> Flannel: it's not working. =\
[23:46] <aHappyJenny86> i need to edit my "fstab" so my extra hard drive starts with ubuntu
[23:46] <endo_> someone please help, im trying to follow this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Belkin_F5D7050_ver_3000_%28Ralink_rt73_driver%29?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDevice%29 but im receviing a error when I run 'make'
[23:46] <cellofellow> unop: I upgrade from Feisty, and the drive is a /dev/hd** instead of /dev/sd. Anything to do with it?
[23:46] <azexia2> yowshi: fair enough, in that case let me just check, i jsut a variety of distros, and i tend to use the console for quick commands =)
[23:46] <cellofellow> aHappyJenny86: What filesystem?
[23:46] <aHappyJenny86> can you just IM me.... its to busy in the room to keep up
[23:46] <unop> cellofellow, could you not use a shortcut in the places sidebar for convenience?
[23:46] <numus> anyone know how to setup sessions to run compiz then emerald so it does it on bootup
[23:47] <yowshi> azexia2: i can use the console method instead. i prefer guis because i tend to typo alot
[23:47] <unop> cellofellow, no, that shouldnt matter
[23:47] <CMind> rryan: yeah it's only on my parhelia the nvidia graphics ok.. probably the drivers
[23:47] <azexia2> yowshi: right click, make link, then drag the link to anywhere you like, that seemed to work, unfortunatly, you'd have to do that for everything inside dir2, to make dir 1 one partition
[23:47] <cellofellow> unop: yep. I'm just trying to figure this one out for a future install. (I want to try my hand at Linux as a business. This needs to work.)
[23:47] <bellkana_> Flannel: Uh..I am a newbie at IRC and ubuntu but how do I get #ubuntu-JP from here?
[23:47] <cellofellow> brb...
[23:48] <azexia2> yowshi: the command is very easy, and it's very hard to get typos, you got the console open?
[23:48] <jokoon> Can someone help me with my bluetooth phone please ?
[23:48] <Slart> bellkana_: type /join #ubuntu-jp    in the same place you type messages..
[23:48] <yowshi> so i couldnt have nboth data partitions show up inside home folder without linking every single file in one of them manually?
[23:48] <AndyCR> numus: Open System->Preferences->Sessions, under Startup Programs add "emerald --replace"
[23:48] <unop> cellofellow, has it ever come up in the computer:// folder?
[23:48] <bastid_raZor> numus; if you're in gutsy and you enable compiz via system>preferences>appearances then compiz starts every time automatically
[23:48] <rryan> CMind : Yea, I'm reading some forums about the parhelia in X and others are mentioning corruption.
[23:48] <jin> how do you add more languages to the dictionary applet in the gnome-panel?
[23:48] <bellkana_> Slart: Thanks alot!!:)
[23:48] <azexia2> i'm not quite sure what you mean, if you just want a link to the harddrives, that's fine
[23:49] <Slart> bellkana_: you're welcome
[23:49] <yowshi> azexia2: as for typos i generally tend to make one typo per sentence i just catch and fix them sometimes so it looks like i make less
[23:49] <numus> bastid_raZor but what about emerald.. because compiz makes you loose the title bars
[23:49] <CMind> rryan: so good news for me, 8.04 works just fine with my workstation setup :)
[23:50] <Wolvez> guys, do you know a software to helpdesks...?
[23:50] <azexia2> yowshi: hehe, easy to make mistakes, but the command would be: ln -s dir1/* dir2/ that would link everything from dir 1 to dir 2, obviously it would be longer if you have your windows dir in /media/ntfs or something, but it is a very short command =)
[23:50] <Wolvez> to manage tickets etc?
[23:50] <CMind> rryan: thank you for your time :)
[23:50] <cellofellow> unop: no, it hasn't
[23:50] <rryan> CMind : Yep :) enjoy
[23:50] <cellofellow> unop: I've had this nearly six months and never bothered with it.
[23:50] <yowshi> azexia2: thanks a bunc
[23:50] <bastid_raZor> numus; you have emerald installed and in ccsm you'll have emerald in command of Window decorations
[23:50] <yowshi> bunch*
[23:50] <rodrigth> msg CMind figure it out?
[23:50] <azexia2> yowshi: no problem at all, glad someone could help, don't think everyone resorts rtfm :P
[23:51] <rodrigth> ? that didn't work
[23:51] <CMind> rodrigth: yeah, I dont know why exactly but I put my 7.10 config back and it work
[23:51] <CMind> rodrigth: drivers I guess
[23:51] <yowshi> azexia2: i know of at least 3 people now who dont do that. but it is infuriating when someone does that. especially since i am not a moron and tend to try a manual first
[23:52] <bastid_raZor> numus;  or like AndyCR said.. add emerald --replace to sessions
[23:52] <numus> thank you
[23:52] <kindofabuzz_> emerald rocks
[23:52] <cellofellow> unop: you there?
[23:52] <AndyCR> numus: The issue with my method is that turning it off in the appearance applet won't stop it from enabling on startup, but if that's not a problem it'll work
[23:52] <azexia2> yowshi: irc does tend to be full of fast typists, i would love to hear the sounds of everyone at the same time =) but we are all lazy, it's very easy to point someone to a page, but most of the time people will try and help
[23:53] <bastid_raZor> numus; hope you enjoy your new compiz-fusion fun
[23:53] <cellofellow> why use emerald instead of gwd?
[23:53] <plus_M> Hi, I'm trying out Kubuntu KDE 4.0 8.04 beta in virtualbox, but I can't seem to get the resolution above 800x600.  I explicitly gave some available resolutions in xorg.conf, but it doesn't seem to be accepting them
[23:53] <bluefox83> the touch pad volume control on my gf's dell inspiron isn't working correctly, anyone know how to get the pad working? (the volume stuff on the taskbar works, but her onboard volume switch doesn't
[23:53] <CMind> Anyone know if the limitation of resolution on compiz-fuzion (opengl) have been solved on 8.04?
[23:53] <bluefox83> )
[23:53] <Slart> cellofellow: gwd? what is that?
[23:53] <jokoon> ubotu bluetooth
[23:53] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[23:53] <kindofabuzz_> cellofellow: gwd?
[23:53] <numus> bastid-raZor i use to use this back when it was beryl.. i had a little tift with my laptop and 7.04 so i went to vista only.. now with 7.10 and 8.04 on the way it runs so much better in wubi...
[23:53] <cellofellow> GTK Window Decorator.
[23:54] <kindofabuzz_> cellofellow: i just seem to like the emerald themes better
[23:54] <artfullylost> Hey, during distro upgrade, I should see stuff scrolling past in the terminal, correct?
[23:54] <Slart> cellofellow: bah.. and here I thought gwd was something new and exciting =)
[23:54] <kindofabuzz_> more configurable too
[23:54] <cellofellow> Default window decorator. Uses Metacity themes.
[23:54] <bastid_raZor> numus; wubi still has some bugs.. some things don't work right for that reason
[23:54] <kindofabuzz_> Slart:  hehe me too
[23:54] <bastid_raZor> numus; be sure to clarify that in future questions :)
[23:54] <TuTUXG_> !hello
[23:54] <numus> bastid_razor i understand but i dont have a big enough harddrive on this laptop to partition it.. when i get a 250 for my laptop then it will be partitioned
[23:54] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[23:55] <AndyCR> Speaking of GWD, does anyone else have an issue with disapearing/discoloring GWD titlebars on maximized windows?
[23:55] <D|sToRt|oN> hello how can I extract prevail.crt.r00 ?
[23:55] <CMind> I'm wondering if my 3840x1792 virtual desktop will work with compiz
[23:55] <bastid_raZor> numus; cool.. good luck with compiz
[23:55] <azexia2> CMind: is that a wide screen tv?
[23:55] <D|sToRt|oN> Ark dont work
[23:55] <kindofabuzz_> Andy: when that happens just do a metacity -replace to fix it
[23:55] <CMind> azexia2: quad display (3x19+32)
[23:55] <kindofabuzz_> metacity --replace
[23:55] <kindofabuzz_> or emerald --replace, whcih ever you use
[23:56] <azexia2> CMind: very nice, i'll have to look into the same my self at some point, i think it should, do you have a nvidia gpu?
[23:56] <bastid_raZor> D|sToRt|oN; you'll need to find the .rar that is associated with that file.. normally .r00 are the first of a series of rar files .. .r01 .r02 etc..
[23:56] <Slart> Is there a way of running two X sessions on a computer? say one running gnome and one running xfce?
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[23:56] <kindofabuzz_> Slart: virtual tems? i dunno
[23:56] <azexia2> CMind: i would personally have to setup something like that to be seperate xservers, as the 3dcube would look pretty bad being that big,  mine looks strange enough with two =)
[23:56] <AndyCR> kindofabuzz_: It's not the case where the windeco crashes, it's something rather odd. Randomly the titlebar will either disapear (in 7.10 and lower) or turn a bright color (8.04), then go back again randomly
[23:57] <AndyCR> It doesn't occur with emerald
[23:57] <nonewmsgs> is it possible to resume a (cord disconected) dd session?
[23:57] <CMind> azexia2: Matrox Parhelia (triplehead) + Nvidia GeForce FX 5500 (pci)
[23:57] <kindofabuzz_> was that spam from Mizzy? irc spam? lol
  I try and open .r01 and ark says it cant support the file
[23:57] <term_> Is there anyway to hide things from the bottom tray in gnome? example - when i open eterm to not have it displayed down in the tray lol
[23:57] <gpm> D|sToRt|oN: apt-get install unrar ?
[23:58] <D|sToRt|oN> done it
[23:58] <bastid_raZor> D|sToRt|oN; if you don't have unrar yes.
[23:58] <D|sToRt|oN> unrar is installed
[23:58] <gpm> D|sToRt|oN: why not just unrar e <thearchive>?
[23:58] <bastid_raZor> D|sToRt|oN; you'll need to find the .rar not the .r0x's ..
[23:58] <D|sToRt|oN> o
[23:58] <azexia2> CMind: it tends to be a lot down to the gpu, i expect compiz won't be an issue,the nvidia 5500 will be fine though, i used to use that card, not to sure about the maxtor, but worth a try, would be a really cool setup, expecially for multitaskers, i always find i move into whatever space i have, i started with 800x600, and i swore when i got to 1024x768 i'd need nothing more, now i'm on dual 1280x1024, and i need more :p
[23:59] <bastid_raZor> D|sToRt|oN; try replacing the .r01 with .rar .. hopefully the .rar is in the directory