nosrednaekimRiddell: this has been bothering me for like 2 hours: why doesn't this work? if I manually specify a signal and slot it works (but it gets called twice)00:01
nosrednaekim    @pyqtSignature("")00:01
nosrednaekim    def on_cbPrintMode_activated(self,text):00:01
Riddellnosrednaekim: try   @pyqtSignature("QString text")  ?00:03
nosrednaekimnothing.... I'm not familiar with these @ functions., and I can't seem to be able to find any documentation on them <_<00:05
nosrednaekimah.... fixed it @pyqtSignature("int"),00:07
nosrednaekimlooks like the signal returning the text isn't the one being called.00:08
nosrednaekimthanks for the hint :)00:09
* Riddell not familiar with them either00:10
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ScottKRiddell: Thank you VERY much for taking touched it last back on kdebase.00:43
blueyedRiddell: well, the bugfix for kdebase was not really worth an upload on its own IMHO, but thanks for fixing it.. :)00:52
Riddellblueyed: no pointing waiting either00:52
blueyedRiddell: well.. I don't like getting a whole lot of new binary packages because of such changes..00:53
Riddellthen you shouldn't ask for changes :)00:54
blueyedThat's no option :)00:54
nosrednaekimRiddell: don't you ever sleep ;P ... BTW, system-config-printer-kde should be good for a package update right now.00:55
jjessei read it on blog that he never sleeps00:58
jjesseso it has to be true00:58
* nosrednaekim read the same blog :)00:59
seelehe sleeps with his laptop.  anything after midnight is an automatic response system01:03
seeleyou know how people sleep with books under their pillow to try and absorb knowledge?  Riddell sleeps with his laptop under his pillow so he can sync his brain every night01:05
nosrednaekimI know people listen to their prof's lectures while they are sleeping01:06
nosrednaekimseems to help them01:06
seelesee?  it works for them.  how else could Riddell be our omniscient leader?01:08
seele..or he just works 60 hour weeks and really doesn't sleep.01:08
jjessei thought Riddell cloned himself01:16
seelewow if that's true, where's my copy? there needs to be a Riddel-EST/EDT for us americans01:26
jjesseadditioanl plasmoids are inthe extragears package right?01:26
nosrednaekimjjesse: should be01:26
jjessewhats' the exact name of that package?01:26
nosrednaekimseele: thank you! I thought I was the only one who knew that there was a difference between EDT and EST!01:27
jjessehey i understand the different :)01:27
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jjesseyay i can now lock my screen02:35
nosrednaekimjjesse: in kde4?02:36
nosrednaekimhow did you manage that?02:36
stdinyou need kdm-kde4 installed to lock the session02:38
nosrednaekimI'll try that later.... by guys02:39
pleaseandthankyook installed xubuntu and and goubuntu  on top of edubuntu where are they now? and how do i load them?05:59
Seregamorning all06:21
nixternal01:22, yup it sure is mornin' :p06:22
nixternalgood morning Serega06:22
* apachelogger gives nixternal a cookie07:06
nixternalfor what?07:07
apacheloggernixternal: being around at this time :)07:07
nixternalahh, it is only 02:08 :)07:08
apacheloggerconsidering today is wednesday that is fairly late IMO :P07:09
nixternalI am a luser, so I have nothing else better to do07:11
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jussi01Riddell: Can I get clarifiaction of the correctness of the !khardy factoid please.07:53
ubotuKubuntu Hardy Heron expects to ship with both KDE 3 and KDE 4 as 2 separate disks. KDE 4 should be offered by shipit. The KDE 3 CD will be commercially supported for 18 months and KDE 4 will be community supported.07:53
jussi01Riddell: as https://wiki.kubuntu.org/HardyHeron/Beta/Kubuntu says somewhat differently.08:02
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Riddelljussi01: KDE 3 on shipit now10:23
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smarterI've done some changes to https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/kubuntu-konqueror-shortcuts/trunk if anyone is interested ;)10:35
Riddellsmarter: anything that needs an upload?10:37
smarterRiddell: it's mostly packaging change, but feel free to upload it, it works10:38
alleeRiddell: alls builds say (done) for libkdcraw.  So one can sync from sid now: digikam (0.9.3-2), gwenview (1.4.2-4), kphotoalbum (3.1.1-1) and kipi-plugins (0.1.5-1)11:13
Riddellallee: I don't think they're all in the archive11:14
alleehmm, all are accepted. Ah, pkgs page shows only:  gwenview 1.4.2-4 as latest version http://packages.qa.debian.org/g/gwenview.html.   So we have to wait for next britney(?) run11:17
\shRiddell: what are we doing about the missing icons in the K menu for the menu subfolders under applications tree?11:17
jussi01!khardy is <reply> Kubuntu Hardy Heron expects to ship with both KDE 3 and KDE 4 as 2 separate disks. KDE 3 should be offered by shipit. The KDE 3 CD will be commercially supported for 18 months and KDE 4 will be community supported11:17
ubotuBut khardy already means something else!11:17
jussi01Riddell: are you happy with that?11:17
Riddellallee: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libk/libkdcraw/ no amd6411:19
Riddelljussi01: looks good11:20
jussi01!no, khardy is <reply> Kubuntu Hardy Heron expects to ship with both KDE 3 and KDE 4 as 2 separate disks. KDE 4 should be offered by shipit. The KDE 3 CD will be commercially supported for 18 months and KDE 4 will be community supported11:20
ubotuI'll remember that jussi0111:20
jussi01Riddell: :)11:20
Riddell\sh: I see no missing icons11:29
\shRiddell: yesterday I installed kde4 and there were no icons in the applications folder11:33
\shRiddell: only the "?" icons11:34
\shno kde3 installed that is11:35
Riddell\sh: example?11:43
\shRiddell: I can create a screenshot...give a few mins to do that...11:44
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\shRiddell: http://www.sourcecode.de/content/kde4-without-icons-kmenu-applications11:55
seeledoes adept remind you to reboot your computer when you install somethign that requires a reboot such as a new kernel?11:55
txwikingerIs system-printer-config ours or KDEs?11:56
Riddellseele: yes11:57
\shRiddell: and another flaw...I set the panel to tiny or small and the kmenu icons and all taskbar stuff is really not fitting in it...looks like it's not scaling correctly11:59
Riddell\sh: upstream12:00
Riddell\sh: dunno what you've done to your icons there12:00
\shRiddell: just installed kubuntu-kde4-desktop :)12:01
\shRiddell: the same is on my other desktop at home (installed kde3 + kde4)12:01
\shRiddell: but this desktop is a virgin regarding kde4 :)12:01
\shRiddell: but as I said...only the menu folder icons are missing...all applications inside those menu folders have icons :)12:04
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seeleRiddell: has it always done that or just recently?12:06
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Riddellseele: done which?12:06
seeleremind you to reboot your computer12:06
Riddelltxwikinger: not always, since gutsy I think12:06
Riddelltxwikinger: ours with the applet going into KDE12:07
\shoh wow12:07
\shand now crashed12:07
Riddellseele: not always, since gutsy I think12:07
txwikingerRiddell: which one would you find in system menu in KDE4 at the moment?12:07
Riddelltxwikinger: system-printer-config-kde12:08
txwikingerRiddell: There is no special KDE4 version?12:08
Riddelltxwikinger: no, it's a qt 4 app12:10
txwikingerthanks Riddell12:10
seaLneapachelogger: thanks for the kdegraphics-kde4 fix all fine now12:11
RiddellseaLne: were you and jpatrick trying the encrypted drive stuff?12:13
seaLneit works unless the encrypted device is a raw device rather than a partition i'm looking into it i think i know where its going wrong, the use of raw devices is probably less common than partitions but worth fixing12:14
RiddellseaLne: do you know if that's changed from past releases? (or did it work at all in the past?)12:15
seaLnedidn't work in gutsy+3.5.9 the auto stuff wasn't available before 359 was it?12:18
seaLnewell the patch wasn't added anyway afaik12:22
Riddellno, so we havn't lost anything at least12:23
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CheGuevaraping apachelogger13:12
dvoidam i the only one having problems with the "disk & partition" thing in kubuntu, seems like 8.04 beta has the exact same problem as 7.1013:26
dvoidfilesystems is shown on the same line13:26
dvoidits really anoying13:26
dvoidif a add a say NFS filesystem it will be shown at the same line as my dvd burner13:26
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Riddelldvoid: yes, it has bitrotted somewhat13:43
Riddellnobody is working on it currently I'm afraid13:43
Riddellmonthly team report due! any volunteers?13:43
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apacheloggerCheGuevara: pong13:45
ScottK2Sorry, to busy fixing bugs to write reports ....13:46
ScottK2awen_: See dvoid's comments about the disk management situation (IIRC that's also Guidance) ^^^^13:48
Hobbseemust be another kubuntu meeting at some point, too13:48
* Hobbsee should step down from the council during it13:48
Riddelldon't love us any more?13:49
awen_ScottK2: sounds like something I've seen somewhere in the guidance source...13:50
awen_dvoid: do you have a bug report about it?13:50
ScottK2dvoid: ^^^ Here's your chance to get it fixed.13:51
* Serega dreams about membership :)13:51
HobbseeRiddell: not using the distro anymore.  can't really justify being on the council13:54
HobbseeRiddell: of course i love you guys, though.  you're a good bunch.13:54
HobbseeRiddell: means my ideas about how kubuntu should go are always somewhat obsolete.13:55
Hobbseei'll try 4.1, obviously, but...13:56
* Hobbsee --> bed13:56
RiddellSerega: you're not a member?  we should fix that14:02
SeregaRiddell: wow, really?14:02
* Serega is stunt14:03
RiddellSerega: write yourself a wiki page, next meeting Saturday 5th 11:00UTC14:03
SeregaRiddell: cool, Saturday is my birthday :) lol14:04
RiddellSerega: now you've done kaffeine installer, if you're looking for exciting related developments, gdebi-kde could do with having its konsole widget replaces with a text edit same as the dist upgrade tool had14:05
SeregaRiddell: no problem :)14:06
apacheloggerLP needs a birthday (notification) feature IMO14:06
SeregaRiddell: another thing about gdebi - why does it wait for pressing "Close" button event with -n (automatic mode) key? I would like to fix this too14:07
RiddellSerega: that's just how mhb programmed it, I'm fine with changing it14:08
SeregaRiddell: is the own wiki page mandatory for member candidates? can I just specify N/A in that field?14:09
RiddellSerega: yes it's needed14:09
Riddelljust some bullet points about what you've done and what you're interested in14:10
stdinSerega: just put a bit about you and what you do14:10
RiddellSerega: see 849, 850 and 851 for what should happen to gdebi-kde http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/update-manager/main/changes/michael.vogt%40ubuntu.com-20080314140616-nov93vpgwrcezwvv?start_revid=michael.vogt%40ubuntu.com-20080322214955-r11kxlk8z1m6ehyn14:13
apacheloggerRiddell: is there some magic trick to generate a somewhat usable list of copyrights/licenses for KDE modules' copyright files?14:17
* Serega sees a tendention to reduce KDE-dependencies in pyqt utilities14:17
Riddellapachelogger: I tend to grep for KAboutData14:18
apacheloggerk, thanks14:18
RiddellSerega: that embedded konsole widget is pretty broken, it uses large amounts of memory14:19
alleeRiddell: apt-get source in sid chroot downloads the versions to sync for: digikam kipi-plugins gwenview kphotoalbum14:40
alleedigikam_0.9.3-2.dsc gwenview_1.4.2-4.dsc kipi-plugins_0.1.5-1.dsc kphotoalbum_3.1.1-1.dsc14:41
Riddellok, let's do it14:41
Riddellthanks allee14:46
awen_ScottK2: got to leave now... if dvoid get's back with a bug number I trust you to hold tight to it, or simply assign it to me14:47
alleeRiddell: i've to thk you14:47
dvoidawen_, no bug report14:47
dvoiddont even know where to report it14:48
* dvoid dont do much of bug reporting, 14:48
* dvoid mostly complains ;)14:48
awen_dvoid: then it's time to learn that: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug/+login :)14:49
awen_dvoid: remember to include what versions you use, how to reproduce it and maybe a screenshot... just catch me or ScottK2 here with a bug number14:52
dvoiddoes the "disk & filesystem" thing have another name?14:54
Riddellkde-guidance package14:54
awen_package: kde-guidance14:54
* awen_ really has to leave now... see you all14:55
apacheloggerI think it is time to write a get-me-a-list-of-copyrights script14:58
dvoidScottK2, bug number 20714515:04
ScottK2dvoid: Hoperfully awen comes back.  He's the one that thought he might look into it.15:05
dvoidmaybe i shuld continue doing som bugreporting, found some bugs on my travels ^_^15:05
dvoidthe gdebi-kde memmory bug is wellknown ?15:15
smartertoo well known :/15:15
dvoid^_^  then i dont have to report that hehe15:16
dvoidi had some problems with the network manager , but cant put them into words15:17
smartereverybody had problem with it :p15:17
dvoidfedora had i think two good network managers15:17
dvoidstrange kubuntu cant have one ;)15:18
smarterthey use networkmanager too15:18
smarterand knetworkmanager15:18
dvoidyea possible. but it worked alot better15:18
dvoidbeen using fedora the last 3 years or so , finaly switched from my fedora 5 installation to kubuntu 7.10 like a week ago15:19
smarterI think they're using networkmanager 0.7 even if it's not release atm15:19
dvoidi think its kind of funny how many distributions kind of dont develop, they just keep reinventing old features15:20
smartermany thing are shared too15:21
paule118Nintendo 64 Kid Remix15:22
smarterdvoid: like networkmanager or system-config-printer15:22
dvoidsmarter, yea thats what they shuld be. its ridiculus when every distribution creates its own configuration tool for X15:23
dvoidwe just end up with 10 different applications that do the same thing, and non is very good at it :D15:23
dvoidwhere shuld i put feature requests?15:25
ScottK2Big features or small additions to existing packages?15:26
dvoidhum dont know, atm i was thinking about a better boot "gui"15:26
dvoidthe current one ...just shows a progressbar...its bad15:26
dvoidthe fedora boot gui at least gives you a mouse cursor, and the possibility to view the boot progress in a terminal window15:28
ScottKdvoid: I'd call that major.15:29
dvoidi guess15:29
Riddellit's also something which gets discussed a lot15:29
Riddellthe current behaviour is largely intentional15:29
* ScottK hands dvoid https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/15:29
dvoidsomething about "keep it simple" ?15:30
dvoidor what? i truly doubt adding the possibility to show the boot progress in detail hurts anyone15:30
Riddellyou can, alt-f815:32
Riddellor boot without a splash15:32
dvoidhum, but thats not the "boot gui" ;)15:32
dvoidso thats not my point15:32
ScottK2Maybe a config option for complicated boot.  Dunno.15:33
dvoidi think fedora use an X server for the boot splash15:33
dvoidubuntu use usplash wichs uses framebuffer thing15:34
dvoidusing X is a much cleaner aproach i think15:36
* Serega believes X is too heavy for bootsplash :(15:40
\shdvoid: they don't15:41
dvoid\sh, u sure?15:42
\shdvoid: if they do, they invented something really cool...what they could use is qt-embedded + framebuffer kernel device15:42
\shdvoid: ratioonal behind not to use X is the size of the initramfs / initrd you have to use to give a fullfledged X server15:44
\shthe boottime will increase into something which isn't good for linux15:44
dvoidyea i guess having X start early is the problem15:44
\shwhat you use normally is a kernel framebuffer device and an widget set which runs without X (like qt-embedded or other stuff)15:45
nixternalapachelogger: apt-get install devscripts and use the licensecheck script, works great15:45
nixternallicensecheck --copyright *15:45
dvoid:( theres no vmware player .debs15:47
apacheloggernixternal: doesn't work all that well, especially for big modules grepping makes much more sense IMO15:58
xRaich[o]2xI've been thinking : wouldn't it be useful to have a qt4 package which is 686 optimized since a lot a graphics foo is happening there? There is already a i686 optimized libc.15:59
apacheloggerdvoid: there was for gutsy, so there should be some for hardy15:59
dvoidshort one ;)16:00
dvoid"During most of the time that Fedora is booting, a graphical boot screen is displayed, showing the boot progress on a sliding indicator. Unlike some other Linux distributions, this display is managed by a full-blown X server."16:00
\shdvoid: bah...16:01
dvoidits called RHGB16:01
\shdvoid: they did it :(16:01
SeregaRed Hat Graphic Boot?16:01
dvoidi think there has been some requests for ubuntu to switch to it16:01
dvoidSerega, yea16:01
Seregainteresting to test bootup time of that fedora...16:02
dvoidstarting the x server is harly notable16:02
dvoidlike 1sec or something16:02
Seregalet's run kdm?! =)16:02
apacheloggera unified graphical boot thingy would be good IMO16:02
dvoidi think my old fedora 5 system booted faster then my current 7.1016:03
dvoidor at least as fast16:03
apacheloggerRiddell: should I create one libkross0 or 2 seperated packages for ruby and python?16:03
\shdvoid: well, it would be a good idea to determine which Xserver they are using...and how it's working with cards like older ati cards ;)16:03
dvoidi think they are using some VGAish thing16:04
dvoidso it shuld work on just about everything16:04
dvoidit does not use your regular x setup at least16:05
\shdvoid: that's for sure...16:05
* \sh needs to install a fedora9 to his vmware 16:05
dvoidsome things are nice in fedora, some things are nice in ubuntu/kubuntu16:06
apacheloggerCheGuevara: [17:04:45] <thiemster> how do i add widgets?16:06
apacheloggerCheGuevara: now you have my ok to remove the toolbox completely16:06
dvoidkubuntu is a better package for a kde user like me ;16:06
apacheloggerso, who wants to decide on a release date for amarok 1.4.9?16:09
\shapachelogger: you?16:09
nixternalapachelogger: licensecheck works fairly well for me...just have to manipulate it a bit with large packages16:10
\shapachelogger: I did it in the past :)16:10
\shapachelogger: http://www.sourcecode.de/node/125 :)16:10
apacheloggernixternal: as I pointed out various times today: computers should make thinking unnecessary :P16:10
apachelogger\sh: what do you think is a good release day for 1.4.9 then? ;-)16:11
dvoidapachelogger, are you a amarok developer?16:12
\shapachelogger: I don't know..in the past it was like that: new version came out, I tested it, and many people with me...some were seeing some memory leaks etc. so I decided against the update during the last day of breezy16:13
apacheloggerno, just the manager dood16:13
\shapachelogger: but we have the very same situation with wine now...0.9.59 comes on the 11th april, while hard freeze is on the 10th :)16:13
dvoidok :P16:13
\shapachelogger: oh you mean the release date of amarok in general...I would say then " now "16:14
apacheloggernow isn't a good date because l10n would beat me to death16:14
apacheloggerbesides, I promised 1 or 2 week(s) string freeze for stable releases16:15
\shapachelogger: so tomorrow ;)16:15
* apachelogger notes that \sh would be one awful release dood :P16:16
\shapachelogger: harhar...good to know that I'm already a release dood ;)16:17
\shjust tell me what I need to do to tell recordmydesktop to capture sound from PA16:18
\shor alsa16:18
apacheloggerrtfm I guess16:18
apacheloggeroh mon dieu, my calendar is exploding -.-16:18
apacheloggerliterally, so many notes16:18
apacheloggerwe could fix the remaining 3 bugs from the bug hunt and go in string freeze on monday16:20
apacheloggerand pull 1.4.9 before finalfreeze16:21
Riddellapachelogger: separate i think16:22
xRaich[o]2xRiddell: Would it be useful to offer an i686 optimized version of the qt4 lib?16:24
RiddellxRaich[o]2x: not terribly16:24
xRaich[o]2xRiddell: Dunno, maybe it could speed up Arthur a little bit. Ubuntu is already offering an optmized libc and optimized mesa.16:25
nixternalRiddell: doin' the team report, anything you think needs adding?16:25
xRaich[o]2xRiddell: It's just a thougt anyway.16:25
Riddellnixternal: beta beta!16:26
nixternalgot it16:26
Serega"string freeze"?16:27
nixternalBeta, kubuntu-docs ready for translations, hug days, KDE 4 k-d-s approved upstream...16:27
nixternaltime to take my Python + LP skillz and write a few scripts for Kubuntu16:29
alleenixternal: ... gfx apps update (with merged changes back into debian) :)16:29
nixternal*gfx apps*16:31
ScottKnixternal: If you could make a python script that would give LP a proposed bug title and get back a list of possible dupes, that'd be really kewl.  It's the one bug chunk I'm missing to teach reportbug to talk to LP.16:31
RiddellScottK: bughelper?16:32
ScottKRiddell: I took a look at it and it seemed like it'd take some severe bending to fit the need.  Maybe I just didn't look hard enough.16:33
nixternalwas just going to say that, but I am somewhat of a bughelper dummy16:33
nixternalone of Chicago's biggest newbs knows bughelper by the back of his hand, and I actually send him after dups for me :)16:33
nixternalof all of the things to get someone into contributing, it was bughelper for him...weird dude, but hey, he is contributing :)16:34
ScottKAll I really want is something like the dupe check LP gives you before filing a bug via the web form.16:35
nixternalJucato: so I hear it is 'Manny Pacquiao' day there :)  Or should I say 'Datu Manny 'Pacman' Pacquiao' day16:35
nixternalKubuntu team report complete16:51
jpatrickwhy did I just read: Linux for Christmas?16:53
nixternalthere was an Ubuntu Christmas edition in 2006 that was pretty nice actually16:55
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apacheloggerRiddell: kross is working now :D http://aplg.kollide.net/images/osiris/snapshot92.png17:20
Riddellapachelogger: goodness, what's that?17:24
apacheloggeronly theme that does not work is liquidweather which doesn't render for some reason17:24
nixternalthat is getting fixed and should be released shortly though17:25
apacheloggeroh and one theme which access Qt3, which is an invald action17:25
apacheloggerbut besides that it works pretty good17:25
apacheloggerwell, I'll polish the packaging and create a debdiff17:25
nixternalapachelogger: is that kross from trunk?17:26
apacheloggerno, 4.0.217:27
apacheloggerRiddell, nixternal: please revu my changes http://people.ubuntuwire.com/~apachelogger/tmp/kdebindings-kde4/17:48
* nixternal kicks konqi in the shins...when I click on a link in Yakuake you must open up that link, don't me click it twice17:50
* nixternal wonders how Ana is listed in the copyright when this package was never merged according to the changelog17:59
nixternalneeds a watch file18:01
apacheloggerstdin: ^18:04
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Riddellapachelogger, you're a genius18:25
Riddell `Depends' field, invalid package name `#': must start with an alphanumeric18:28
Riddellwell nearly :)18:28
apacheloggeroh well18:33
Riddell/home/jr/src/kdebindings/kdebindings-kde4-4.0.2/obj-i486-linux-gnu/smoke/qt/x_14.cpp: In member function ‘void x_QSslSocket::x_35(Smoke::StackItem*) const’:18:33
Riddell/home/jr/src/kdebindings/kdebindings-kde4-4.0.2/obj-i486-linux-gnu/smoke/qt/x_14.cpp:4858: error: variable ‘QSslConfiguration xret’ has initialiser but incomplete type18:33
Riddell/home/jr/src/kdebindings/kdebindings-kde4-4.0.2/obj-i486-linux-gnu/smoke/qt/x_14.cpp:4858: error: invalid use of incomplete type ‘struct QSslConfiguration’18:33
apacheloggerRiddell: did you fix the build-depends properly?18:34
RiddellI removed the lines with # at the start18:34
apacheloggernoes :D18:35
apacheloggerRiddell: you should have read the comment ;-)18:35
Riddell"SMOKE doesn't build with: libqwt5-qt4-dev"?18:35
RiddellI don't have libqwt5-qt4-dev18:35
Riddelllet me try a pbuilder18:38
* apachelogger just had a nasty cpu usage bug in kwin -.-18:38
apacheloggerRiddell: do you have your qt 4.4 installed? ;-)18:38
Riddellhmm, maybe I do18:38
Riddellwhy, yes18:38
apacheloggerRiddell: I uploaded a fixed control file18:43
Riddellpbuilder doing its thing now18:49
Riddellapachelogger: I see you got as confused about bug 132228 as I am18:49
ubotuLaunchpad bug 132228 in amarok "Amarok mixes up po-files (ku and ko)" [Unknown,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/13222818:49
RiddellI can't see any problem anywhere18:49
Riddellapachelogger: does amarok's upstream include translations from launchpad?18:51
apacheloggerthe problem is, I can't remove languages from the tarball18:52
apacheloggersince the general policy for translations in extragear is that there is no policy18:52
Riddellamarok-1.4.8/po/ku/amarok.po says its from Rosetta18:53
apacheloggermaybe someone uploaded it there18:53
Riddellthere's nothing in http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/l10n-kde3/ku/messages/extragear-multimedia/18:53
Riddellalthough I see there is http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/l10n-kde4/ku/messages/extragear-multimedia/amarok.po?revision=790431&view=markup18:54
Riddellwhich comes from Rosetta18:54
apacheloggeryeah, it got removed now18:54
apacheloggermy theory is:18:54
apacheloggersomeone from ko's ubuntu team wanted to "up-port" the translations but uploaded to the wrong translation18:54
apacheloggerwe rolled 1.4.818:55
apacheloggerit's l10n got imported in LP18:55
apacheloggerand this resulted in the current mess18:55
Riddellseems probably18:55
Riddellhowever it also seems to be fixed everywhere now as far as I can see18:56
Riddellso I can close the bug18:56
_StefanS_is it just me, or is archive.ubuntu.com kinda overloaded ? :)18:56
_StefanS_114kb/s.. thats a new low record18:56
apacheloggerit's like that since the weekend before beta for me18:57
_StefanS_uhm ok.. guess its already taking some serious fire :)18:58
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Riddellapachelogger: did you do anything to change Qt to Qt4 in ruby?19:29
Riddellseems like upstream changed it without updating the examples then19:31
apacheloggera ruby require on Qt will still use Qt 3 by default19:31
apacheloggersince I didn't include Qt.rb in the .install19:31
apacheloggerRiddell: well, they probably will not work due to this19:31
apacheloggerI will have to do some testing if ruby will find the libs when I place them in /usr/lib/kde419:31
Riddellapachelogger: is rbrcc packaged?19:35
nixternalCould not connect to host ktown.kde.org.19:35
nixternalReason: 550 Denying login due to EXCESSIVE LOAD. Please try again later..19:35
nixternalcome on people, stop excessifying the load already, I have watch files to make here :p19:35
apacheloggerRiddell: nope, thanks19:37
* apachelogger is wondering why list-missing doesn't kick in19:37
Riddellapachelogger: korundum doesn't seem to work19:38
apacheloggerhm, it might be the defaulting to Qt319:40
* apachelogger investigates19:40
jpatrickRiddell: I have a patch to disable moodin cache...19:43
jpatrickRiddell: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/12905793/disable_cache.diff19:43
jpatricktoo late for hardy?19:43
smarterjpatrick: why the cache should be disabled?19:44
jpatrickbug #12912619:44
ubotuLaunchpad bug 129126 in ksplash-engine-moodin "moodin caches themes in user directory" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/12912619:44
ScottK2jpatrick: I don't think it's to late.19:46
smarterjpatrick: ooohhh19:46
ScottK2Have you tested this?19:46
smarterthat's why I still have the old wallpaper with ksplash19:46
jpatrickScottK2: no but it just came up19:46
jpatrick"Is moodin still necessary to kubuntu? AFAIR the dependency was removed from kubuntu-desktop"19:46
apacheloggerRiddell: uisampler.rb works for me .. what makes you belive korundum is not working?19:46
ScottK2jpatrick: I'd say yes because of upgrades19:47
Riddellapachelogger: hmm, so it does19:48
ScottK2It's still un Gutsy's kubuntu-desktop, so anyone upgrading from Gutsy will have it.19:48
Riddellapachelogger: how about systray.rb ?19:48
Riddelljpatrick: groovy19:49
apacheloggerRiddell: that wasn't ported19:50
apacheloggerthe module is Korundum4 not Korundum19:50
nixternalvorian: did you get keurocalc fixed up?19:50
Riddellapachelogger: ok but if I change that..19:51
voriannixternal: aye19:51
nixternaldid it get uploaded yet?19:51
vorianstill sitting in queue19:52
nixternaldoes it have a watch file by chance?19:52
apacheloggerRiddell: actually lower case k19:52
apacheloggerbut then it craps out19:52
Riddellyeah, strange19:52
RiddellI'd split out the examples into different packages19:52
nixternalvorian: add a watch file to it, re-debdiff it and sling me the link so we can get that fixed asap19:53
Riddellalso compatre the existing libqt4-ruby1.819:53
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apacheloggerRiddell: k, will do19:53
apacheloggerRiddell: compatre?19:54
voriannixternal: it does have a watch file, my bad19:56
vorianbug 20627819:57
ubotuLaunchpad bug 206278 in keurocalc-kde4 "keurocalc-kde4 needs strict versioned dependency on keurocalc-kde4-data" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20627819:57
nixternalgroovy, thanks19:57
Riddellapachelogger: compare, look at the differences19:57
apacheloggerRiddell: oh, ok :)19:57
* Riddell out19:59
CheGuevaraping apachelogger20:15
apacheloggerpong CheGuevara20:15
CheGuevaraso remove the toolbox it is then?20:15
CheGuevaraits a one liner as well :P20:16
nixternalvorian: fyi, watch file doesn't work, I fixed it though20:22
vorianthat's weird20:24
nixternalthere is already a keurocalc 1.0.120:24
nixternalyet there is no changelog for it20:24
vorianit's not on their homepage20:27
vorianhow odd20:27
jpatrickScottK2: test moodin package at https://edge.launchpad.net/~jpatrick/+archive20:29
ScottK2jpatrick: You test it and I'll sponsor it.20:30
jpatrickScottK2: it's in universe so I can upload, just don't have a hardy system20:30
yuriynosrednaekim: bug 20716920:35
ubotuLaunchpad bug 207169 in kubuntu-kde4-meta "kubuntu KDE4 shutdown requires too many steps (dup-of: 187450)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20716920:35
ubotuLaunchpad bug 187450 in kdebase-kde4 "When logging out of KDE4, you have to click "logout" in two different dialog boxes" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18745020:35
yuriyoops wrong one20:35
yuriynosrednaekim: bug 20417420:35
ubotuLaunchpad bug 204174 in bzr-eclipse "stale name used after renaming project" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20417420:35
yuriydammit suck at typing today20:35
yuriybug 20717420:35
ubotuLaunchpad bug 207174 in system-config-printer-kde "printer icon in system tray" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20717420:35
nosrednaekimyuriy: lookin20:36
nosrednaekiminternet is slow today <_<20:38
nosrednaekimwait... so is it a bug in kjobviewer or in system-config-printer?20:40
nixternalvorian: the update make keurocalc even worse...going to play around with the package20:41
vorianis it to late to nuke it?20:41
nosrednaekimyuriy: it seems to be the same as bug 206459 ... cups isn't updating it correctly20:42
ubotuLaunchpad bug 206459 in system-config-printer-kde "print status doesn't update automatically" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20645920:42
nosrednaekimor its not catching the signals20:42
mornfallIf you see Tonio by any chance, tell him, that it might be worth trying to set KDEDIRS=$KDEDIRS:$HOME/.kde/ and KDEHOME=something_empty for kdesudo to have the app read user's profile but not write to it. Or something akin to that, anyway.20:49
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nixternalwow, some messy -kde4 packages21:00
nixternalneed to start doing some lintian overrides21:00
Jucatonixternal: oh..  I haven't read the news yet... but wouldn't be surprised :)21:01
nixternalPacquiao is da man!21:01
Jucatoheheh :)21:02
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alleeeh, after todays hal update, g-p-m told me (as usual) that I have no battery.  Restarting g-p-m fixes it (as usual).  Is someone working on it?21:42
claydohJucato: you goes?21:46
claydoherr how goes?21:46
* claydoh apologizes for being out of the loop and generally away from stuff th past few weeks21:47
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claydohhow are you j?21:52
alleesebas: ^^^ g-p-m ?21:52
jpatrickclaydoh: not bad thanks, yourself?21:58
claydohtired, sore but otherwise fine :)21:59
ScottK2allee: awen has been working on g-p-m.22:00
* nixternal bangs head super hard into the desk22:00
nixternalthis is driving me nuts22:01
alleeScottK2: k thx.22:01
smarternixternal: this is "normal" with CDBS iirc22:01
ScottK2nixternal: It's an Ubuntu space saving hack.22:01
nixternalwell, if that is the case, then someone needs to stop filing bugs against this issue22:01
alleenixternal: as softlink is only okay is pkg depend on the pkg that has the read file22:02
alleenixternal: if dep -> report is invalid, if not depends -> fix it ;)22:03
sebasallee: Nobody's working on it atm22:52
sebasBut it's a known problem I've been unable to fix (tried a year or so ago(22:53
alleesebas: I'll ping awen, if he has plans for it22:53
alleesebas: oh, if you had no idea how to fix it, then it makes no sense that I try at all22:53
sebasThe connection to the dbus is lost and I can't get it back22:53
sebasWell, I've tried, but apparently the dbus bindings weren't so nicee ... that might've changed.22:54
alleesebas: k22:54
sebasCatching the exception, then reconnecting might work now (it didn't work a year ago)22:54
xRaich[o]2xI want to help out. Any Coders needed?23:11
TheInfinityxRaich[o]2x: ask Riddell, he's our master of (kubuntu) universe :)23:12
xRaich[o]2xRiddell: ping23:13
yuriyxRaich[o]2x: it's post beta, so bug fixing time. you could find one that requires some coding23:29
xRaich[o]2xyuriy: I need some work for next week Friday. Until then I'm busy.23:30
Riddellhi xRaich[o]2x23:33
xRaich[o]2xhi Riddell23:33
xRaich[o]2xThough you were already gone ^^23:33
RiddellxRaich[o]2x: know python?23:34
xRaich[o]2xI bit, I've been coding C++ for a couple of Years. But i downloaded an Openbook about Python. Looks learnable to me.23:35
Riddellmain thing that needs coding right now is the printer config app23:36
xRaich[o]2xIn fact i wrote a Pythonprogramm years ago just to find out that it has been debianized ^^. That was a weird feeling ^^23:36
xRaich[o]2xOk sounds cool, I'm intrested in coding frontends for the enduser.23:37
xRaich[o]2xI just need to get used to coding for a big project and get familiar with the kde4-python bindings.23:40
xRaich[o]2xAny IDE recommendations?23:40
nixternalRiddell: binary-or-shlib-defines-rpath  <- is that because we aren't use the RPATH stuff in kde.mk?23:48
RiddellxRaich[o]2x: kate works for me23:50
Riddellnixternal: rpath is not a bad thing whatever debian say, for kde 4 its essential23:51
nixternalxRaich[o]2x: if you use Eclipse, there is a PyDev plugin that is great, or check out Komodo Edit 4.3, it is now open source and is a great python editor, with code completion23:51
RiddellxRaich[o]2x: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/system-config-printer/kde-port23:52
Riddellis the code23:52
nixternalRiddell: so we could override those lintian errors then for rpath?23:52
Riddellit's a port of the gtk system-config-printer23:52
Riddellnixternal: we could (or we could just ignore them)23:52
xRaich[o]2xRiddell: Ok, i'm quite busy til next Friday. So give me a lot of Links please so i can prepare myself ^^23:52
nixternalya, but there are people on the lintian warning bug bandwagon, so I am just tidying up some of my packages before they attack them :)23:53
xRaich[o]2xRiddell: You have an Tutorial for bazaar?23:54
xRaich[o]2xnixternal: I took a look a eric. Looks cool to.23:54
Riddellbzr branch http://.. as it says23:54
xRaich[o]2xat,too. dang too late for typing -_-23:55
Riddellbzr diff;  bzr commit23:55
xRaich[o]2xSo it's basically like svn?23:55
RiddellxRaich[o]2x: yes, except you can branch it outside the main repository23:55
RiddellxRaich[o]2x: http://bazaar-vcs.org/Workflows gives you an idea of the power, but don't scare yourself, it can be used exactly like svn23:56
RiddellxRaich[o]2x: you push the branch to launchpad.net to publish it23:57
xRaich[o]2xAh ok, i don't get scared that easily ^^ I want to know my tools ^^23:57

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