| thumper | Fujitsu: what would be more useful? | 00:21 |
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| thumper | Fujitsu: it does provide google something to crawl over though | 00:21 |
| Fujitsu | thumper: Something covering more than the start of a*. | 00:21 |
| thumper | Fujitsu: well, there is a "more..." | 00:22 |
| thumper | Fujitsu: the purpose of the tag cloud on the front page (for now at least) is to provide an initial sample with an indicator to more | 00:22 |
| Fujitsu | Ah. | 00:22 |
| thumper | Fujitsu: do you think it would be better to show the X number of projects that have most branches? | 00:23 |
| thumper | Fujitsu: or should it be random? | 00:23 |
| Fujitsu | thumper: I would suggest the former. | 00:25 |
| Fujitsu | It'd still be a tag cloud, but lots of projects with fewer branches would be omitted. | 00:25 |
| thumper | Fujitsu: my issue with always showing the same projects on the home page is that someone new might think "gee, is that all they have?" | 00:25 |
| thumper | Fujitsu: and that is why if we just show the first branches alphabetically, then it's fairly obvious that there is more | 00:26 |
| Fujitsu | That's a good point. | 00:26 |
| spiv | Oh the other hand, having a cloud with only an arbitrary fraction of the projects isn't particularly useful. So maybe the default cloud should have the projects with the most branches, and a prominent "Showing 200 most active project out of NNNN registered" caption would be better. | 00:29 |
| thumper | spiv: yeah, good point | 00:30 |
| spiv | I guess it depends on what the front page is for. | 00:30 |
| Fujitsu | spiv: Adding that caption would work. Good idea. | 00:30 |
| thumper | I think the front page is to give the new user some idea of what it's all for | 00:30 |
| spiv | Is it just to make people go "ooh, there's stuff here", or it is also "and I can start exploring that stuff usefully from this page" | 00:30 |
| thumper | spiv: I'll make sure to raise this with mpt when he is here tomorrow | 00:31 |
| thumper | mpt is also of the opinion that it might be better for most active | 00:31 |
| spiv | Although the prominent "Find a Project" search box is good :) | 00:31 |
| thumper | which I'm coming around to | 00:31 |
| Fujitsu | On the Launchpad /, the featured projects are listed, not the first X alphabetically. | 00:32 |
| spiv | I think for me, a cloud is sort of impressive, but a cloud of names of significant projects I recognise (i.e. most active rather than alphabetical) is more impressive, and more likely to interest me. | 00:32 |
| jamesh | spiv: that way people will have to game the system by faking activity rather than picking a project name starting with "a" | 00:57 |
| spiv | jamesh: :) | 00:58 |
| spiv | jamesh: or just buy thumper enough beers that he'll special case your project ;) | 00:59 |
| thumper | :-] | 00:59 |
| jamesh | spiv: I think it'd be cheaper to write a script to generate commits and new branches | 01:00 |
| spiv | jamesh: obviously the solution is to filter out commits by people with low karma ;) | 01:02 |
| jamesh | spiv: so I'd need to write a bug filing bot too? | 01:02 |
| Fujitsu | Is there such thing as a committer with low karma now? | 01:03 |
| thumper | Fujitsu: yes :( | 01:03 |
| Fujitsu | I registered a branch and got 500 karma, so even a few commits should give a fair bit of karma. | 01:03 |
| jamesh | the code karma would even out if we issued karma for commits rather than just creating branches | 01:03 |
| Fujitsu | Ah, so no karma for commits? | 01:03 |
| jamesh | not yet | 01:04 |
| Fujitsu | Anybody around who can look at OOPS-816CEMAIL1? | 01:54 |
| Fujitsu | Is LP trying to put all my text attachments in the description again, making it too epic? | 01:55 |
| jamesh | Fujitsu: looks that way: there is a big arse patch in there. | 01:59 |
| Fujitsu | I thought that bug was fixed. | 02:00 |
| Fujitsu | I attached them. It shouldn't be trying to put them inline. | 02:00 |
| mpt | In the "Is the bug you’re reporting one of these" list, what does "Closed" mean? | 02:04 |
| Hobbsee | now, there's a good idea | 02:06 |
| Hobbsee | we should get LP karma for seeding iso's :P | 02:06 |
| Fujitsu | The torrent tracker falls over enough at release without being part of LP. | 02:07 |
| Hobbsee | oy! | 02:07 |
| * Hobbsee goes to look for something to clean off her screen with | 02:07 | |
| Fujitsu | Oh, Thunderbird is stupid, but LP should probably be more intelligent. | 02:09 |
| jamesh | Fujitsu: did the patch get sent with "Content-Disposition: inline" or something? | 02:13 |
| Fujitsu | jamesh: Thunderbird seems to do that for all attachments. Mozilla irks me more and more. | 02:14 |
| * Hobbsee eyes this bug | 02:15 | |
| Hobbsee | After installing "ubuntu-restricted-extras", I perceived that the package "sun-java6-bin" was not installed. | 02:16 |
| Hobbsee | In synaptic, I saw that "sun-java6-bin" was not listed as a dependency of "ubuntu-restricted-extras". | 02:16 |
| Hobbsee | yes. this is intentional. | 02:16 |
| Fujitsu | Hobbsee: -ECHAN | 02:16 |
| Hobbsee | oh, oops | 02:17 |
| Hobbsee | my channel order is strange. | 02:17 |
| ubotu | New bug: #206917 in launchpad "Bugs/Blueprints/Questions counts are odd on "related projects" page" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/206917 | 02:20 |
| poolie | hi | 03:36 |
| poolie | why does https://edge.launchpad.net/~jdobrien show "no public email" even when i'm logged in? | 03:36 |
| poolie | i thought it was shown to logged-in users and all users must have one? | 03:37 |
| spiv | poolie: in a user's "Change details" page they can check a "Hide my email addresses from other Launchpad users" option | 03:39 |
| poolie | oh | 03:41 |
| poolie | why is that not on the "email settings" page then? | 03:42 |
| poolie | oh well | 03:42 |
| poolie | spiv: welcome back btw | 03:42 |
| spiv | poolie: thanks :) | 03:42 |
| mpt | Does anyone know what the Timezone in your "Change account details" page is used for? | 03:48 |
| lifeless | I thought it was time displays | 03:51 |
| Fujitsu | mpt: It's very useful for working out when to catch people, and it's used to change the timezone in timestamp tooltips. | 04:12 |
| mpt | ok | 04:13 |
| ubotu | New bug: #206954 in launchpad "'wants to join' email contains invalid link" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/206954 | 04:16 |
| pleaseandthankyo | can i install ubuntu edubun xunbu kubuntu at the same time? | 05:05 |
| kgoetz | pleaseandthankyo: ask #ubuntu #kubuntu or #xubuntu | 05:09 |
| pleaseandthankyo | ok installed xubuntu and and goubuntu on top of edubuntu where are they now? and how do i load them? | 05:59 |
| kgoetz | pleaseandthankyo: ask in #xubuntu, and dont ask in multiple irrelevent channels at the same time | 06:00 |
| Hobbsee | poolie: replied to your mail | 06:25 |
| Fujitsu | Wow. Bug #164276 is special. A team commented on the bug. | 06:26 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 164276 in iceape "Please sponsor iceape for gutsy-security" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164276 | 06:26 |
| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: i wonder if that was by email, sent from the team email address. | 06:28 |
| Fujitsu | Hobbsee: Must have been. | 06:29 |
| Hobbsee | unless you can login as a team now | 06:29 |
| Fujitsu | I can't see any other way it could have happened. | 06:29 |
| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: yeah, because teams don't get passwords. Unless you can log in as a team, *and* do a recover password. | 06:31 |
| Fujitsu | I see somebody fixed the bug that made me get ~5x the bug karma I was meant to. | 06:32 |
| Hobbsee | heh | 06:32 |
| Fujitsu | Changing one Ubuntu task in a multi-task bug used to apparently also give the same karma for all the other Ubuntu tasks. | 06:33 |
| Hobbsee | tasty. | 06:33 |
| Fujitsu | Hah, commenting still does. | 06:35 |
| * Fujitsu stabs bug #162411. | 06:38 | |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 162411 in malone "Cannot target a task to a release if another task already targetted" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/162411 | 06:38 |
| * Fujitsu dares to try the email interface. | 06:39 | |
| Fujitsu | Oh, it crashes now. | 06:44 |
| Fujitsu | Nice. | 06:44 |
| Fujitsu | So there's no way at all to properly represent the status of that bug, and get it off the Hardy lists. | 06:45 |
| Fujitsu | Have I really generated all three email OOPSes today, or is the OOPS ID more cryptic than that? | 06:45 |
| Hobbsee | ouch. that looks...interesting | 06:48 |
| Hobbsee | it also looks like a corner case | 06:48 |
| Fujitsu | It is, but it shouldn't be, as I say in the bug. | 06:49 |
| Fujitsu | There's another infuriating bug which makes it a corner case. | 06:49 |
| Hobbsee | oh, yeah, that bug. | 06:50 |
| Hobbsee | i dont' understand the first bug, though | 06:51 |
| Fujitsu | Which? | 06:51 |
| Hobbsee | are you meaning that it affects 2 packages? | 06:51 |
| Fujitsu | https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pike7.2/+bug/58169 | 06:51 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 58169 in pike7.4 "CVE-2006-4041: Pike Unspecified SQL Injection Vulnerability" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 06:51 |
| Fujitsu | See that bug. | 06:51 |
| Fujitsu | pike7.[24] only exist in Dapper. | 06:51 |
| Fujitsu | We need to keep them open in Dapper. | 06:51 |
| Fujitsu | Try to nominate them for Dapper. | 06:51 |
| Hobbsee | ah yes, i see | 06:52 |
| Hobbsee | you might want to add that bug to the original | 06:52 |
| Fujitsu | I shall. | 06:52 |
| * Hobbsee suspects it will get marked as a corner case | 06:53 | |
| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: unless you can get laserjock to tag it with the magic stick | 06:54 |
| Fujitsu | It probably will be. But it shouldn't be a corner case :( | 06:54 |
| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: why do you think that this stuff doesn't get used for RM? | 06:55 |
| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: why do you think we use targets instead? (apart from mark's ideals about this stuff) | 06:55 |
| Hobbsee | er, milestones | 06:55 |
| Fujitsu | The release management stuff works well other than the few bugs I've filed about it. | 06:56 |
| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: presumably the ideal is that you file a bug about each of the packages | 06:56 |
| Hobbsee | not one that affects all of them | 06:56 |
| poolie | hello Hobbsee | 07:05 |
| Hobbsee | hey poolie, how's it going? Hope my message was slightly helpful to you | 07:07 |
| poolie | yes, it's going well, i had a good 5day weekend | 07:09 |
| poolie | i thought that would be it but thanks | 07:09 |
| poolie | another instance of "people don't read dialog text" | 07:09 |
| jamesh | we have a 49 hour long week end in Perth this week | 07:10 |
| jamesh | not as long as some, but longer than normal | 07:10 |
| kgoetz | does administering a team in LP gain karma, or is it a 'goodness of your heart' thing? | 07:19 |
| Fujitsu | kgoetz: The latter. | 07:20 |
| kgoetz | Fujitsu: cheers | 07:20 |
| Hobbsee | poolie: yeah. i've not actually found a way to make them do so. | 07:22 |
| Hobbsee | kgoetz: it means you get to smite users with a big declined stamp, when they don't read. | 07:23 |
| Fujitsu | Only a few random people try to join motuscience and motu-swat. | 07:23 |
| * Fujitsu had fun with the big declined stamp earlier today. | 07:23 | |
| kgoetz | Hobbsee: :) | 07:24 |
| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: id' get at least 3 people a week trying for u-u-s | 07:25 |
| * kgoetz goes to subscribe to the bug about being unable to track down users with hidden email addresses | 07:25 | |
| Hobbsee | oh yes, those are fun too | 07:26 |
| * Hobbsee automatically gives them the great big "declined" button | 07:26 | |
| * kgoetz updates group front page to explain no-email subscribing == bad idea | 07:28 | |
| kgoetz | heh. tagged 'fix-it-friday' | 07:34 |
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| Fujitsu | tjaalton: I believe the admins configure it per import. | 11:00 |
| tjaalton | Fujitsu: ok.. | 11:01 |
| tjaalton | the question was; how often are vcs-imports supposed to be updated | 11:01 |
| tjaalton | nm-applet is old enough to not work against current nm :) | 11:02 |
| tjaalton | Fujitsu: by admins did you mean the vcs-imports team? | 11:12 |
| tjaalton | so please, if anyone can sync network-manager-applet trunk with current upstream, I'd appreciate it | 11:21 |
| tjaalton | *someone | 11:21 |
| Fujitsu | tjaalton: That is what I meant, yes. | 11:22 |
| * Fujitsu witnesses the Great Soyuz Deferral of 1.2.3. | 11:26 | |
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| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: unsubscribe. it's less depressing. | 11:45 |
| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: i haven't had the enjoyment of that for a good...2 months now. and i haven't missed it. | 11:46 |
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| Hobbsee | i think there was only stuff i cared about in 1.2.4, anyway, iirc | 11:46 |
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| ubotu | New bug: #207075 in malone "Confirmation step on +choose-affected-product is no longer necessary" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/207075 | 12:16 |
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| ubotu | New bug: #207080 in launchpad "Bad mailing list subscription link offered" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/207080 | 12:41 |
| ubotu | New bug: #207082 in malone "Add List-* headers to bugmail" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/207082 | 12:41 |
| Hobbsee | dupe * 80 | 12:42 |
| Hobbsee | er, @ 80 | 12:42 |
| * Hobbsee wonders if there's a way to unsubscribe from all of soyuz's bugs, with one click, if you're not a bug contact. | 12:44 | |
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| thekorn | Hobbsee, I think there is no way in the LP UI, but python-launchpad-bugs can do it for you | 13:01 |
| Hobbsee | thekorn: oh, neat. i didn't even think of that. Thanks, i'll look into it | 13:03 |
| thekorn | Hobbsee, untested, but it should look like: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6096/ | 13:04 |
| Hobbsee | thekorn: excellent...thanks :) | 13:04 |
| Fujitsu | I think /soyuz/+bugs?field.bug_subscriber=hobbsee | 13:06 |
| Fujitsu | Or is it just field.subscriber? It's very inconsistent. | 13:06 |
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| ubotu | New bug: #207110 in launchpad "cannot unsubscribe from bug report" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/207110 | 13:50 |
| Hobbsee | dupe | 13:55 |
| matsubara | Hobbsee: https://help.launchpad.net/BugSubscriptions | 14:09 |
| matsubara | Hobbsee: oh, unsubscribe. I misread it as subscribe | 14:09 |
| timlinux | hi | 14:45 |
| timlinux | I have a strange (to me) problem when my packages compile on the build server: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/12895482/buildlog_ubuntu-feisty-amd64.libopenmodeller_0.5.3-pre7_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 14:47 |
| timlinux | The error is only under 64 bit build | 14:48 |
| timlinux | same package built fine under i386 | 14:48 |
| timlinux | is there a different version of gcc on amd64 server | 14:48 |
| timlinux | the offending c++ line is simply doing this: 145 va_list marker = NULL; | 14:49 |
| ubotu | New bug: #207130 in malone "Refactoring of externalbugtrackers has broken RT" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/207130 | 14:51 |
| ubotu | New bug: #207136 in rosetta "Few more issues blocking XPIPO export" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/207136 | 14:55 |
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| warren | Anyone know how to upgrade the repository format of my repo in launchpad? bzr get FOO; bzr upgrade --pack-0.92; bzr push (doesn't work) | 15:44 |
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| ubotu | New bug: #207182 in launchpad "zopless.send_email should be true in staging" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/207182 | 16:21 |
| warren | http://people.redhat.com/wtogami/temp/bzrcrash.txt bzr upgrade --pack-0.92 sftp://wtogami@bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Eltsp-upstream/ltspfs/ltspfs-trunk/ failed. #bzr advised me to try a newer bzr version. Can an admin help me by reverting the repository to pre-upgrade? | 16:31 |
| oly- | hi, i just commited some code to my project and uploaded some files that should not be there, can i undo the commit or remove them ? | 16:37 |
| warren | OTOH, bzr check says it is OK, so maybe I don't need a reversion | 16:39 |
| oly- | just found uncommit, luckly | 16:40 |
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| rexbron | jkakar: I would be happy to work with you to get autoPPA into shape. Will you be attending UDS prague? | 17:12 |
| jkakar | rexbron: Hey! I won't be at UDS unfortunately, but I would be happy to work with you to make AutoPPA work in your environment. | 17:12 |
| rexbron | jkakar: That is too bad | 17:13 |
| rexbron | jkakar: Would you mind moving this discussion to #ubuntu-bleedingedge? | 17:13 |
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| warren | Any launchpad admin here? bzr crashed during "bzr upgrade" and we need an admin to fix it. | 18:59 |
| kiko | warren, really? | 19:05 |
| ubotu | New bug: #207277 in launchpad "cannot import gpg key" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/207277 | 19:06 |
| warren | kiko, https://bugs.launchpad.net/bzr/+bug/207211 | 19:06 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 207211 in bzr "upgrade --pack-0.92 sftp:// failed (but worked...)" [Undecided,New] | 19:06 |
| warren | kiko, if you could blow away .bzr and move .bzr.backup into place it would be appreciated. | 19:06 |
| kiko | I can't do that | 19:06 |
| warren | kiko, do you have a recommendation of a better way to upgrade the repo format? | 19:06 |
| warren | kiko, err.... then how can we recover from this? | 19:07 |
| kiko | and I actually have no idea of whether it's doable | 19:07 |
| kiko | push a new branch? | 19:07 |
| warren | this branch is forever garbage now? | 19:07 |
| kiko | warren, you'll need to ask on answers.launchpad.net/launchpad-bazaar | 19:07 |
| warren | kiko, so I don't screw our other repos, is there a better way to upgrade our repo format? | 19:08 |
| warren | kiko, someone in #bzr said to use bzr upgrade --pack-0.92 sftp://.... but this seems like a really bad idea to me. | 19:09 |
| kiko | it probably won't make things any worse as they are right now :) | 19:09 |
| warren | kiko, no, I mean for our other repos | 19:10 |
| kiko | oh. | 19:10 |
| warren | is there a better way to upgrade their format? | 19:10 |
| kiko | probably not, but you can run those on local branches first and see if it works. | 19:10 |
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| brucealdridge | I had a problem upgrading to hardy ... some sort of python bug, i reported it to launchpad, but it was marked as a dup (it wasn't as far as i could find) and i don't have access to the "original" bug so i can't see what the problem is, how to fix, etc etc .... is this how launchpad works? | 19:31 |
| Fujitsu | brucealdridge: Why don't you have access? | 19:33 |
| stgraber | brucealdridge: what's the bugnumber ? | 19:33 |
| emgent | hello some launchpad admin here' | 19:34 |
| emgent | ? | 19:34 |
| emgent | someone can rename https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-pentest to https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-whitehat ? | 19:35 |
| brucealdridge | Fujitsu: unkown | 19:37 |
| brucealdridge | stgrabber: 206888 | 19:37 |
| Fujitsu | brucealdridge: OK, it's private. | 19:38 |
| Fujitsu | Because it's a crash. | 19:38 |
| Fujitsu | brucealdridge: I've made it public as there is no confidential information in there. | 19:39 |
| Fujitsu | Crashes are by default private, as they could well contain confidential data in coredumps. | 19:39 |
| brucealdridge | Fujitsu: thanks :) | 19:39 |
| Fujitsu | np | 19:40 |
| stgraber | brucealdridge: it has been automatically marked as a dupe by apport | 19:40 |
| brucealdridge | stgraber: makes sense, but a little frustrating | 19:41 |
| stgraber | bah, apport is right, your bug is a dupe :) | 19:41 |
| brucealdridge | stgrabber: yes ... but it might have been easier if i could have decided that (in the search stage) | 19:44 |
| brucealdridge | thanks for your help though :) | 19:46 |
| kiko | barry, how do we rename teams that have mailing lists? | 19:51 |
| barry | kiko: it has to be done manually because the mailing list rename is not easy | 19:54 |
| Fujitsu | kiko: The mailing list should probably die; it was replaced with a private one on l.u.c just a few minutes ago. | 19:55 |
| kiko | barry, can you do that one for emgent, then? | 19:55 |
| kiko | ! | 19:55 |
| barry | emgent is the team name? | 19:55 |
| kiko | nope | 19:55 |
| kiko | <emgent> someone can rename https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-pentest to https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-whitehat ? | 19:56 |
| barry | are we killing the mailing list or renaming that too? | 19:56 |
| Fujitsu | barry: I'll check in the meeting, wait a sec. | 19:56 |
| Nafallo | Fujitsu: jabber fail again ;-) | 19:57 |
| barry | Fujitsu: cool. we'll have to get lp admin help to do this currently, but i'll coordinate with folks to make it happen | 19:57 |
| emgent | rename if it's possible | 19:57 |
| emgent | btw, hi | 19:57 |
| barry | emgent: hi. so, rename the team and mailing list | 19:57 |
| Fujitsu | Nafallo: No, I just got up too early (ie. 0550) and forgot to start Gajim. | 19:57 |
| emgent | barry: thanks | 19:58 |
| Nafallo | Fujitsu: FAIL :-) | 19:58 |
| barry | emgent: okay, this may take a little while. i'll let you know when it's done | 20:00 |
| emgent | ok thanks i have to go | 20:00 |
| emgent | feel free to send mail to me | 20:00 |
| emgent | thanks for all | 20:00 |
| barry | emgent: which email address should i use? | 20:07 |
| * compbrain files https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-buildd/+bug/207333 | 20:21 | |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 207333 in launchpad-buildd "RSS/Atom/Whatever status feeds" [Undecided,New] | 20:21 |
| compbrain | May be need to directed to Soyuz or some other PPA centric queue | 20:22 |
| kiko | yeah, compbrain -- that is /not/ buildd :) | 20:27 |
| compbrain | kiko: There's not a good 'PPA Wishlist' category ;) | 20:34 |
| rexbron | Is there a page with a definition on what a "build score" is? | 20:38 |
| rexbron | Hmm, I just had a build fail with this error: | 20:40 |
| rexbron | Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bleedingedge/ubuntu/dists/hardy/main/binary-lpia/Packages.gz 404 Not Found | 20:40 |
| rexbron | any ideas? | 20:40 |
| compbrain | rexbron: Give it a minute or two, and try again? | 20:41 |
| compbrain | I had that for the first hardy package I built for an arch | 20:41 |
| compbrain | then it magically worked an hour later | 20:41 |
| rexbron | compbrain: do you mean re-upload? Or just create a new revision ie ubuntu2 or something and reupload | 20:42 |
| compbrain | Try the former, if that fails, go for the latter | 20:43 |
| Fujitsu | rexbron, compbrain: Just hit the `Retry build' button. | 20:44 |
| Fujitsu | Unfortunately, the bug on that was untargetted last night. | 20:44 |
| rexbron | :( at least there is a work around | 20:44 |
| Fujitsu | I'm not sure how making PPA break confusingly on every first use is a low priority... | 20:45 |
| compbrain | Fujitsu: That didn't work immediatly, had to let it cool down. | 20:46 |
| rexbron | "Capn, she can't take the pressure" | 20:46 |
| Fujitsu | compbrain: Right, it will work after the first 0, 20, or 40 minutes past the hour that occurs after your upload. | 20:47 |
| compbrain | heh. | 20:48 |
| compbrain | .. Is that a feature or a bugg ;) | 20:48 |
| Fujitsu | It's a bug. It was meant to be fixed this release, but is no longer targetted to any release. | 20:49 |
| ubotu | New bug: #207345 in rosetta "Download now link on inkscape.org is downloading the .45.1 version of inkscape." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/207345 | 20:51 |
| kiko | compbrain, there's a ppa tag for soyuz | 20:54 |
| Fujitsu | That's a very Rosettaish bug. | 20:56 |
| Fujitsu | I have to say that that's the first bug I've seen filed on Launchpad about an upstream project's website. | 20:57 |
| kiko | Fujitsu, auto-retrying failed builds? | 20:57 |
| Fujitsu | kiko: The untargetted bug to which I was referring was bug #196782. | 20:58 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 196782 in soyuz "First build in a new PPA fails" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/196782 | 20:58 |
| rexbron | FYI, This looks like it should be trivial to fix. bug 207355 | 21:05 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 207355 in launchpad "Other wiki name links on hompage have a malformed url" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/207355 | 21:05 |
| ubotu | New bug: #207355 in launchpad "Other wiki name links on hompage have a malformed url" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/207355 | 21:10 |
| RainCT | Hi | 21:23 |
| RainCT | Can someone please check if http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~freevial/freevial/trunk/files is working for him? | 21:23 |
| RainCT | oh now it works | 21:30 |
| ubotu | New bug: #207365 in launchpad "Display of SSH Key Name" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/207365 | 21:30 |
| ubotu | New bug: #207373 in soyuz "[wishlist] should be possible to report bugs from a package page" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/207373 | 21:40 |
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| owh | Hi all. I'm trying to download the Ubuntu Server Guide from bazaar.launchpad.net. I'm getting 500 Internal error on this link: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-doc/ubuntu-doc/ubuntu-hardy/download/svn-v3-trunk0%3A1e033ed4-87e8-0310-8703-d68c7bbd86c9%3Atrunk%3A4485/2104%401e033ed4-87e8-0310-8703-d68c7bbd86c9%3Atrunk%3Ageneric%252Fserverguide%252FC/C | 22:26 |
| spiv | owh: yeah, that does look broken. | 22:30 |
| spiv | owh: please file a bug on launchpad-bazaar about that. | 22:30 |
| spiv | owh: mwhudson will probably be the guy to fix it, but he doesn't seem to be around right at this moment. | 22:31 |
| fta | couldn't ppa builders stop to try building the same thing forever while the user obviously don't care to fix the problem after months ? | 22:31 |
| owh | spiv: It seems to be intermittent. If I go into the directory, I can download some individual files, but most do the same. | 22:32 |
| * owh hunts for the bug page. | 22:33 | |
| spiv | owh: https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad-bazaar/+filebug | 22:33 |
| * owh found it. | 22:34 | |
| spiv | owh: thanks for the report | 22:34 |
| * spiv loses another race :) | 22:34 | |
| owh | Hmm, there are several of these kinds of bugs. | 22:34 |
| owh | Ah, all closed - yum. | 22:34 |
| spiv | owh: I don't see one specifically about downloads from codebrowse, so I think a fresh report is worthwhile | 22:35 |
| owh | Yup | 22:35 |
| owh | Bug #207417 | 22:36 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 207417 in launchpad-bazaar "500 Internal Server error on download link" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/207417 | 22:36 |
| spiv | owh: thanks! | 22:37 |
| owh | spiv: If only I could check out the 448kb in the 20 xml files and not have to download 88Mb via a two-way satellite link, I'd be all warm and fuzzy. | 22:38 |
| spiv | owh: there are bzr features in development to let you do just that. | 22:39 |
| owh | spiv: Unfortunately I need these documents before release so I can proof them :( | 22:39 |
| spiv | owh: You want the /generic/serverguide/C directory? | 22:40 |
| owh | spiv: Yup | 22:40 |
| spiv | owh: ok, I can quickly make a tarball of that for you. | 22:40 |
| * owh hugs spiv | 22:40 | |
| owh | onno@itmaze.com.au | 22:40 |
| * Fujitsu pokes drescher's ftpd. | 22:42 | |
| * owh has no idea what Fujitsu means. | 22:42 | |
| Fujitsu | drescher's ftpd isn't accepting connections. | 22:43 |
| elmo | Fujitsu: fixed, thanks | 22:43 |
| Fujitsu | elmo: Thanks for the quick service. | 22:43 |
| ubotu | New bug: #207417 in launchpad-bazaar "500 Internal Server error on download link" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/207417 | 22:45 |
| spiv | owh: http://people.ubuntu.com/~andrew/generic-serverguide-C.tar.gz | 22:49 |
| owh | spiv: Tah muchly. I owe you one. | 22:49 |
| owh | spiv: You can remove that now. | 22:50 |
| * owh waves bye and thanks. | 22:50 | |
| spiv | owh: you're welcome | 22:51 |
| mpt | Gooooooooooooooooooood afternoon Launchpadders! | 23:00 |
| fta | rhenium says 'timed out' | 23:00 |
| Fujitsu | Hi mpt. | 23:00 |
| Fujitsu | mpt: Do you always appear seconds after midday just so you can do that? | 23:00 |
| fta | that's midnight for me | 23:02 |
| mpt | Fujitsu, no :-) Normally I start work at an o'clock, but today I was travelling so it was a coincidence | 23:08 |
| fta | <fta> couldn't ppa builders stop to try building the same thing forever while the user obviously don't care to fix the problem after months ? | 23:11 |
| fta | no one interested by this ? | 23:12 |
| matsubara | what do you mean, fta? | 23:12 |
| matsubara | we only try to build packages once -- retries are manual. | 23:12 |
| Fujitsu | matsubara: Not for buggy Soyuz depwait. | 23:13 |
| fta | https://edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/+archive/+builds?build_text=&build_state=all | 23:13 |
| fta | that kdelibs has been retrying several times a day since november | 23:14 |
| fta | and there are many more packages like that sucking precious builder time | 23:15 |
| Fujitsu | It's a problem in the depwait logic. I reported a similar bug about the primary archive some months ago, and it was fixed. | 23:16 |
| matsubara | Fujitsu: odd, because it's exactly the same code. | 23:17 |
| Fujitsu | matsubara: I would have thought so, but it might be doing crazy stuff like looking for stuff in other archives. That's the only way I can explain the PPA behaviour I've seen. | 23:17 |
| matsubara | ^ that was kiko btw | 23:41 |
| Fujitsu | I thought it looked kikoesque. | 23:44 |
| kiko | no it didn't! | 23:44 |
| kiko | it was polite and noncommital!! | 23:45 |
| Fujitsu | kiko is so impolite, yep. | 23:45 |
| kiko | ;) | 23:47 |
| Fujitsu | kiko: Do you want a bug filed about that strange depwait giving-back? | 23:47 |
| kiko | Fujitsu, yeah, I think that's what we need to figure that one out. I think cprov will want details on the specific build and how it's being retried | 23:49 |
| compbrain | http://launchpadlibrarian.net/12909867/9dAR4qJKRnhiMVfyJ7jHUIBNsi.txt | 23:49 |
| compbrain | well crap. | 23:49 |
| Fujitsu | Ooh, nice. | 23:50 |
| compbrain | When you do ~10 builds a day at least with the ppa, your sure to find at least a bug a day | 23:50 |
| Fujitsu | Bug #57464? | 23:50 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 57464 in soyuz "Soyuz screws up in horrible ways if the Librarian is down" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/57464 | 23:50 |
| kiko | yeah, sure looks like it -- or the connection dropped :-( | 23:51 |
| cprov | well, it beeps when you mention PPA/cprov/etc ... it's waken me up | 23:52 |
| cprov | Fujitsu: how can I help you tonight ? :) | 23:52 |
| Fujitsu | cprov: https://edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/+archive/+build/450236 gets retried regularly (it's been happening for some months, as you can see), even though the build-depends were never in the PPA. | 23:52 |
| cprov | Fujitsu: yes, libsoprano-dev (>= 1.97.0~beta4-1) seem to be satisfiable from Soyuz PoV | 23:53 |
| Fujitsu | Is it looking in PPAs other than kubuntu-members, then? | 23:54 |
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| cprov | Fujitsu: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/soprano/1.95.0~beta2-1ubuntu1 | 23:57 |
| Fujitsu | cprov: ... it's looking in Hardy? | 23:57 |
| Fujitsu | Oh. | 23:57 |
| Fujitsu | I see. | 23:57 |
| Fujitsu | The PPA is pinned higher? | 23:58 |
| Fujitsu | Wait, no, I'm confused. | 23:58 |
| elmo | dear lord, we don't use pinning | 23:58 |
| elmo | that would be i.n.s.a.n.e. | 23:58 |
| Fujitsu | I misread the version number. | 23:58 |
| Fujitsu | cprov: Why would that satisfy >= 1.97 in Soyuz's eyes. | 23:59 |
| Fujitsu | elmo: My misreading indicated that you must have been using it. | 23:59 |
| cprov | Fujitsu: something is wrong in the version check we do. | 23:59 |
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