| pochu | Amaranth: hi, could you explain to me why you reassigned bug 206809 to gnome-system-tools? It sounds more to me like a compiz bug or gnome-control-conter | 00:42 |
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| ubotu | Launchpad bug 206809 in compiz "Setting "Visual effects" to "None" is ignored when logging in again" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/206809 | 00:42 |
| Amaranth | pochu: wrong package, i guess | 00:43 |
| Amaranth | pochu: whatever package has that UI in it (not compiz) | 00:43 |
| pochu | Amaranth: right, gnome-control-center | 00:43 |
| pochu | it's /usr/bin/gnome-appearance-properties | 00:43 |
| * pochu reassigns | 00:43 | |
| Amaranth | arg, you moved it back to compiz | 00:44 |
| pochu | I didn't see you moved it to g-s-t until I got the mail few minutes after the new bug one :) | 00:44 |
| pochu | and +activity didn't show anything | 00:45 |
| pochu | it still doesn't... https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/206809/+activity | 00:45 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 206809 in gnome-control-center "Setting "Visual effects" to "None" is ignored when logging in again" [Undecided,New] | 00:45 |
| pochu | with 3 reassignments :P | 00:45 |
| seb128 | Amaranth, vuntz: hey, any comment on the patch there, bug #204350? | 08:15 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 204350 in gnome-menus "Cannot change layout using applications-merged" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/204350 | 08:15 |
| crevette | salut seb128 | 08:15 |
| seb128 | lut crevette | 08:15 |
| seb128 | crevette: t'as retrouvé ton splash ? ;-) | 08:15 |
| crevette | non | 08:15 |
| crevette | il apparait au debutn qd la bar pulse | 08:16 |
| crevette | mais apres il disparaiut et j'ai le texte | 08:16 |
| seb128 | c'est que t'as un truc qui dure assez pour faire un timeout on dirait | 08:18 |
| vuntz | seb128: mmh, interesting | 10:41 |
| vuntz | seb128: there might be some side-effects | 10:46 |
| vuntz | would need to be careful about this | 10:46 |
| seb128 | vuntz: which ones? | 10:46 |
| seb128 | vuntz: could you comment on the bug maybe? ;-) | 10:46 |
| vuntz | seb128: well, I don't know. I'd need to read the spec closely to be sure | 10:48 |
| seb128 | vuntz: ok | 10:49 |
| vuntz | seb128: but you can upstream the bug | 10:49 |
| seb128 | vuntz: ok, will do, thanks | 10:49 |
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| shabz | Hai | 11:40 |
| shabz | anybody please tell me the objective of this channel | 11:41 |
| shabz | Hello | 11:49 |
| seb128 | hi shabz | 11:49 |
| seb128 | shabz: the chan is to discuss the work done on the ubuntu desktop packages | 11:49 |
| shabz | gnome or Kde / | 11:50 |
| seb128 | ubuntu | 11:50 |
| seb128 | so GNOME | 11:50 |
| shabz | I have problem with Beryl package | 11:53 |
| shabz | it is not working on my machine | 11:53 |
| shabz | is there any troubleshoot info pls give the links | 11:54 |
| Hobbsee | shabz: beryl support in #beryl | 11:56 |
| shabz | okay thanks | 11:56 |
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| kwwii | seb128: making the symlinks is easy but as hit uses makefiles I don't know how to do the packaging :-( | 13:20 |
| Ng | is the Visual Effects tab in the Appearance preferences not support to show the Custom option and a button to launch CCSM? | 13:21 |
| Ng | atm I just have the regular 3 options, none of which are selected because I've customised the settings | 13:21 |
| pochu | Ng: I think it was supposed to show the option if you had ccsm installed | 13:23 |
| Hobbsee | ugh | 13:23 |
| Hobbsee | why is it now mandatory that my usb contains the documents, music, pictures, video, etc folders | 13:23 |
| Hobbsee | i thought the dirs stuff was only supposed to happen for /home | 13:24 |
| Ng | pochu: yeah it used to do that, but not so much anymore | 13:24 |
| Ng | I'm wondering if a patch got dropped or something | 13:24 |
| seb128 | Ng: install simple-ccsm | 13:26 |
| seb128 | Ng: no, it got switched to the simple version | 13:26 |
| Ng | ah | 13:26 |
| seb128 | Hobbsee: you have a weird definition of mandatory | 13:27 |
| pochu | gnome-control-center (1:2.21.90-0ubuntu2) hardy; urgency=low | 13:27 |
| pochu | * replace ccsm with simple-ccsm | 13:27 |
| seb128 | kwwii: what do you mean? | 13:27 |
| Hobbsee | seb128: it won't let me remove it. | 13:27 |
| seb128 | Hobbsee: ??? | 13:27 |
| Hobbsee | in nautilus. | 13:27 |
| pochu | seb128: perhaps it should have an upgrade path? | 13:27 |
| seb128 | Hobbsee: there is nothing preventing you to remove folders in nautilus | 13:27 |
| pochu | (if that feature was in Gutsy) | 13:27 |
| Hobbsee | seb128: except errors saying "permission denied" | 13:27 |
| seb128 | pochu: dunno, we didn't install ccsm before and it's still available | 13:28 |
| seb128 | Hobbsee: what are the permissions on those directories? | 13:28 |
| Hobbsee | seb128: they were owned by the local user | 13:28 |
| kwwii | seb128: I mean I have no idea how to change the makefile or whatever else I need to do to get the symlinks in the package | 13:28 |
| Hobbsee | hmm, it hasn't come back | 13:28 |
| * Hobbsee has no idea then | 13:28 | |
| seb128 | Hobbsee: can you try to gvfs-rm it? | 13:28 |
| Hobbsee | seb128: i've already sudo rm -rf'd it | 13:28 |
| seb128 | Hobbsee: I never had those created on a removable disk and nautilus doesn't special case those | 13:29 |
| Hobbsee | hm, OK | 13:29 |
| seb128 | Hobbsee: so you are just basically complaining ;-) | 13:29 |
| * Hobbsee sigh. | 13:29 | |
| seb128 | Hobbsee: please complain before applying a workaround next time :-p | 13:29 |
| Hobbsee | i thougth i wasnt' supposed to complain at all. | 13:29 |
| seb128 | why did you use sudo if they were user removable btw? | 13:29 |
| Hobbsee | good question. | 13:30 |
| seb128 | kwwii: the package only does a make install, just do the change the way it would be done for upstream and that's it | 13:30 |
| seb128 | kwwii: or use debian/binary.links to create symlinks if you want to do it in the package specifically | 13:30 |
| seb128 | Hobbsee: isn't it? ;-) | 13:31 |
| Hobbsee | seb128: yeah. and i don't know the answer. | 13:31 |
| Hobbsee | oh well, if i can reproduce it somehow (may involve the evil 'doze), then i'll come back | 13:31 |
| Hobbsee | thought it was some new feature or something | 13:31 |
| seb128 | Hobbsee: alright ;-) | 13:32 |
| seb128 | and no, it's supposed to be in the user directory only and those are not special directories, you can remove them if you want | 13:32 |
| kwwii | seb128: yeah, that is the problem - I've no idea how :p all the other packages use the python stuff...I'll bring it up at the meeting tomorrow, I am sure someone can help ;-) | 13:35 |
| Hobbsee | seb128: that's what i thought. they only came into kde after i stopped using it, so... | 13:37 |
| seb128 | kwwii: what package are you changing? | 13:38 |
| kwwii | human icon theme | 13:39 |
| seb128 | kwwii: easy way is what gartoon is doing | 13:46 |
| seb128 | kwwii: debian/gnome-icon-theme-gartoon.links | 13:46 |
| seb128 | usr/share/icons/gartoon/scalable/filesystems/network-workgroup.svg | 13:47 |
| seb128 | ups | 13:47 |
| seb128 | usr/share/icons/gartoon/scalable/filesystems/gnome-fs-network.svg usr/share/icons/gartoon/scalable/filesystems/network-workgroup.svg | 13:47 |
| seb128 | kwwii: create a debian/human-icon-theme.links and write "source link" lines | 13:47 |
| seb128 | kwwii: the symlinks will be created during the build automatically | 13:48 |
| seb128 | kwwii: sould be trivial enough to do | 13:49 |
| kwwii | seb128: cool, I'll look into that, thanks | 13:50 |
| seb128 | you are welcome | 13:51 |
| andreasn | seb128: gnome-icon-theme does that as well, right? | 14:00 |
| seb128 | andreasn: I though but apparently not the current package | 14:00 |
| seb128 | andreasn: the right way is to change the makefiles or use icon-naming-utils I think, but I've other thing to do and that's a detail | 14:01 |
| andreasn | yeah | 14:01 |
| andreasn | the right thing to do is to fix nautilus etc. to use proper names | 14:01 |
| andreasn | I'll see if I can find someone interested in doing that | 14:02 |
| andreasn | (for 2.24 obviosly) | 14:02 |
| andreasn | if I do it myself I'm just going to end up breaking the whole thing... | 14:03 |
| andreasn | :) | 14:03 |
| seb128 | andreasn: well, those are the new gvfs names, so that's rather the icon themes that need to be updated, no? | 14:04 |
| seb128 | andreasn: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=506532 | 14:04 |
| ubotu | Gnome bug 506532 in general "icons needed for gvfs" [Normal,New] | 14:04 |
| andreasn | ah, that one | 14:05 |
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| MacSlow | kwwii, see qry-msg | 14:31 |
| lmanul | crevette: ping? | 14:43 |
| crevette | lmanul, salut | 14:43 |
| lmanul | crevette: Salut :) | 14:44 |
| lmanul | crevette: about the "(copy)" patch | 14:44 |
| lmanul | crevette: what do you need reworked? Is it only that it doesn't apply to the newest files? | 14:44 |
| crevette | hmmm | 14:44 |
| crevette | what are you talking about ? | 14:44 |
| crevette | ah I was talking to you | 14:45 |
| lmanul | You made a comment on a bug concerning file duplication | 14:45 |
| lmanul | When you duplicate a file, where to place the "(copy)" string | 14:45 |
| lmanul | I think I had written a patch for this a long time ago | 14:45 |
| lmanul | And your comment requested that I rework it :) | 14:45 |
| crevette | ah in Nautilus ? | 14:45 |
| lmanul | crevette: yes, Nautilus sorry | 14:46 |
| crevette | ouch, long time I didn't look at this bug | 14:46 |
| * crevette fires it CCed bug list | 14:46 | |
| crevette | http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=351290 ? | 14:46 |
| ubotu | Gnome bug 351290 in File and Folder Operations "Misplaced (copy) text with copy/paste file duplication" [Trivial,New] | 14:46 |
| lmanul | crevette: Right, well you left a comment 4 days ago, is that such a long time? :-) | 14:47 |
| crevette | ah not so long ago | 14:47 |
| crevette | :) | 14:47 |
| crevette | yeah I remember having pinged you | 14:47 |
| crevette | I overlooked over the bug and Martin didn't seems to be completely happy with you patch, so I just pinged you | 14:48 |
| crevette | http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=351290#c5 has an interesting comment | 14:48 |
| lmanul | Hmm, the one from Christian? | 14:49 |
| lmanul | crevette: I guess I could do that | 14:49 |
| crevette | perhaps you should talk with Martin and Christian | 14:50 |
| lmanul | crevette: I was just unsure what the decision would be on this, the patch is easy to write, it just needs a good decision | 14:50 |
| lmanul | crevette: right | 14:50 |
| crevette | yeah | 14:50 |
| pochu | slomo_: I assume we can sync gst-plugins-good0.10, right? we have -2 but there's -3 in unstable, which backports a patch from trunk | 15:05 |
| slomo_ | yes | 15:05 |
| pochu | great, I'll test build and install and ask for a sync then :) | 15:06 |
| crevette | lmanul, on my opinion, I'm thinking Copy of would be better | 15:07 |
| crevette | and I think easier to implement :) | 15:07 |
| lmanul | crevette: Start the new name with "Copy of" ? | 15:07 |
| crevette | yep | 15:07 |
| lmanul | crevette: but then the alphabetization is screwed | 15:07 |
| crevette | yeah | 15:07 |
| crevette | perhaps I'm too biaised due to my Windows habits at work | 15:07 |
| lmanul | crevette: well, you can leave a comment :) | 15:08 |
| crevette | sometime I would liek to have a brainwash | 15:08 |
| crevette | no non | 15:08 |
| crevette | Good luck Mr Phelps :) | 15:10 |
| pochu | seb128: ^-- can you sync gst-plugins-good0.10 from unstable? it backports a change from upstream CVS | 15:22 |
| pochu | we have no local changes | 15:22 |
| seb128 | pochu: synced | 15:26 |
| seb128 | pochu: wants to write a mir page for libarchive? ;-) | 15:26 |
| pochu | hmm, right click on a folder -> share folder -> install smb and nfs -> ok -> ...installing... -> install nfs and smb?? -> ok -> install nfs and smb?? | 15:26 |
| pochu | seb128: ^-- known issue? | 15:26 |
| pochu | seb128: sounds good, is it already useful (to test it) | 15:27 |
| pochu | ? | 15:27 |
| seb128 | pochu: there is a bug about the install thing not working correctly | 15:28 |
| pochu | ok, I won't report it again then ;) | 15:28 |
| seb128 | pochu: but pitti just approved nautilus-share for main so I'm going to remove shares-admin today I think | 15:29 |
| pochu | ah, ok | 15:29 |
| pochu | libarchive is for the gvfs archive backend, right? | 15:29 |
| crevette | seb128, really ? cool | 15:29 |
| seb128 | yes | 15:29 |
| pochu | ok | 15:29 |
| crevette | seb128, nautilus-share ? ah I read gnome-user-share ? | 15:29 |
| crevette | there a lot of *-share aroung G world | 15:30 |
| seb128 | crevette: yes, nautilus-share | 15:30 |
| crevette | not really consistent | 15:30 |
| seb128 | crevette: gnome-user-share is the suck, webdav sharing has a poor win integration | 15:30 |
| crevette | the thing is the developer is always a GNOME core developper | 15:30 |
| crevette | seb128, yeah :/ | 15:30 |
| crevette | but for Unix LAN is it awesome | 15:31 |
| seb128 | right | 15:31 |
| seb128 | but the world is not all unix | 15:31 |
| crevette | youp | 15:31 |
| pochu | seb128: it installed it, but didn't detected it, so kept asking for installing it. I've cancelled, it wasn't detected as installed, so I closed it. When clicking on share folder again, everything went fine (samba and nfs were there as options) | 15:31 |
| seb128 | and we have quite some user sharing over samba | 15:31 |
| seb128 | pochu: right, it needs a restart to list understand that something has been installed | 15:31 |
| seb128 | pochu: that's what the open bug states rather | 15:32 |
| seb128 | I didn't try | 15:32 |
| pochu | so I can confirm it then :) | 15:32 |
| seb128 | pochu: and yes, libarchive is for the gvfs archive backend | 15:32 |
| pochu | seb128: ah, it's even milestoned for hardy | 15:35 |
| pochu | I guess you will unmilestone it once nautilus-share is the default | 15:36 |
| seb128 | yes, I'll close it | 15:36 |
| crevette | I would dream about an unified capplet for file-sharing for desktop | 15:41 |
| seb128 | crevette: good idea, you should start working on that ;-) | 15:44 |
| crevette | yeah :/ | 15:44 |
| crevette | but GNOME HIG doesn't fit well with multi tab on several level; Apple HIG has the necessary widgetery | 15:45 |
| crevette | It would allow to just incorporate the glade into a top level glade :) | 15:45 |
| Amaranth | seb128: you should not be changing <Layout> of existing menus from applications-merged | 15:56 |
| Amaranth | seb128: because you have no idea what order things in application-merged will be loaded so you have no guarantee you'll 'win' and get your layout honored | 15:57 |
| seb128 | Amaranth: can you write that on the bug? ;-) | 15:57 |
| Amaranth | hehe, alright | 15:58 |
| seb128 | Amaranth: thanks | 16:03 |
| seb128 | pitti: I'm not sure to understand your comment on bug #51255 | 16:56 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 51255 in gnome-panel "No 12-hour clock available in spanish language" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/51255 | 16:56 |
| seb128 | pitti: the clock applet has a 12 or 24 hours option which is available when the locale definition supports that | 16:57 |
| pitti | seb128: hm, seems to be a chicken-egg problem then | 16:58 |
| pitti | because, if I add the AM/PM definition to the locale, people can't use 24 hour any more | 16:58 |
| pitti | and since upstream also advised against it, I reverted the aptch | 16:59 |
| seb128 | pitti: how can't they? | 17:01 |
| seb128 | pitti: using french (and I think it's the same in de locale) my clock applet has the 12 or 24 options | 17:02 |
| pitti | seb128: de_DE has an empty am_pm defintion, and if I try to use 12 hour, it still uses 24 hours | 17:03 |
| pitti | seb128: fr_FR has the same | 17:03 |
| pitti | seb128: does it actually work for you? | 17:03 |
| seb128 | no | 17:04 |
| seb128 | but I think it used to work previous cycles | 17:04 |
| seb128 | maybe the new clock applet is broken in that regard | 17:04 |
| seb128 | but this bug is not new | 17:04 |
| pochu | slomo_: there's a liferea RFS at bug 201226, will you be able to look at it? | 17:43 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 201226 in liferea "Please sponsor liferea 1.4.14 (main) into Hardy" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/201226 | 17:43 |
| slomo_ | pochu: is the freeze exception stuff already done and it only needs to be uploaded? | 18:06 |
| pochu | slomo_: it's a bug fix release, so it doesn't need any exception | 18:07 |
| pochu | so yes, just uploading :) | 18:07 |
| slomo_ | ok | 18:08 |
| pochu | slomo_: thank you | 18:18 |
| slomo_ | np :) | 18:18 |
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| crevette | hello | 20:35 |
| seb128 | re crevette | 20:43 |
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