[00:42] Amaranth: hi, could you explain to me why you reassigned bug 206809 to gnome-system-tools? It sounds more to me like a compiz bug or gnome-control-conter [00:42] Launchpad bug 206809 in compiz "Setting "Visual effects" to "None" is ignored when logging in again" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/206809 [00:43] pochu: wrong package, i guess [00:43] pochu: whatever package has that UI in it (not compiz) [00:43] Amaranth: right, gnome-control-center [00:43] it's /usr/bin/gnome-appearance-properties [00:43] * pochu reassigns [00:44] arg, you moved it back to compiz [00:44] I didn't see you moved it to g-s-t until I got the mail few minutes after the new bug one :) [00:45] and +activity didn't show anything [00:45] it still doesn't... https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/206809/+activity [00:45] Launchpad bug 206809 in gnome-control-center "Setting "Visual effects" to "None" is ignored when logging in again" [Undecided,New] [00:45] with 3 reassignments :P [08:15] Amaranth, vuntz: hey, any comment on the patch there, bug #204350? [08:15] Launchpad bug 204350 in gnome-menus "Cannot change layout using applications-merged" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/204350 [08:15] salut seb128 [08:15] lut crevette [08:15] crevette: t'as retrouvé ton splash ? ;-) [08:15] non [08:16] il apparait au debutn qd la bar pulse [08:16] mais apres il disparaiut et j'ai le texte [08:18] c'est que t'as un truc qui dure assez pour faire un timeout on dirait [10:41] seb128: mmh, interesting [10:46] seb128: there might be some side-effects [10:46] would need to be careful about this [10:46] vuntz: which ones? [10:46] vuntz: could you comment on the bug maybe? ;-) [10:48] seb128: well, I don't know. I'd need to read the spec closely to be sure [10:49] vuntz: ok [10:49] seb128: but you can upstream the bug [10:49] vuntz: ok, will do, thanks === asac_ is now known as asac [11:40] Hai [11:41] anybody please tell me the objective of this channel [11:49] Hello [11:49] hi shabz [11:49] shabz: the chan is to discuss the work done on the ubuntu desktop packages [11:50] gnome or Kde / [11:50] ubuntu [11:50] so GNOME [11:53] I have problem with Beryl package [11:53] it is not working on my machine [11:54] is there any troubleshoot info pls give the links [11:56] shabz: beryl support in #beryl [11:56] okay thanks === belou_ is now known as belou [13:20] seb128: making the symlinks is easy but as hit uses makefiles I don't know how to do the packaging :-( [13:21] is the Visual Effects tab in the Appearance preferences not support to show the Custom option and a button to launch CCSM? [13:21] atm I just have the regular 3 options, none of which are selected because I've customised the settings [13:23] Ng: I think it was supposed to show the option if you had ccsm installed [13:23] ugh [13:23] why is it now mandatory that my usb contains the documents, music, pictures, video, etc folders [13:24] i thought the dirs stuff was only supposed to happen for /home [13:24] pochu: yeah it used to do that, but not so much anymore [13:24] I'm wondering if a patch got dropped or something [13:26] Ng: install simple-ccsm [13:26] Ng: no, it got switched to the simple version [13:26] ah [13:27] Hobbsee: you have a weird definition of mandatory [13:27] gnome-control-center (1:2.21.90-0ubuntu2) hardy; urgency=low [13:27] * replace ccsm with simple-ccsm [13:27] kwwii: what do you mean? [13:27] seb128: it won't let me remove it. [13:27] Hobbsee: ??? [13:27] in nautilus. [13:27] seb128: perhaps it should have an upgrade path? [13:27] Hobbsee: there is nothing preventing you to remove folders in nautilus [13:27] (if that feature was in Gutsy) [13:27] seb128: except errors saying "permission denied" [13:28] pochu: dunno, we didn't install ccsm before and it's still available [13:28] Hobbsee: what are the permissions on those directories? [13:28] seb128: they were owned by the local user [13:28] seb128: I mean I have no idea how to change the makefile or whatever else I need to do to get the symlinks in the package [13:28] hmm, it hasn't come back [13:28] * Hobbsee has no idea then [13:28] Hobbsee: can you try to gvfs-rm it? [13:28] seb128: i've already sudo rm -rf'd it [13:29] Hobbsee: I never had those created on a removable disk and nautilus doesn't special case those [13:29] hm, OK [13:29] Hobbsee: so you are just basically complaining ;-) [13:29] * Hobbsee sigh. [13:29] Hobbsee: please complain before applying a workaround next time :-p [13:29] i thougth i wasnt' supposed to complain at all. [13:29] why did you use sudo if they were user removable btw? [13:30] good question. [13:30] kwwii: the package only does a make install, just do the change the way it would be done for upstream and that's it [13:30] kwwii: or use debian/binary.links to create symlinks if you want to do it in the package specifically [13:31] Hobbsee: isn't it? ;-) [13:31] seb128: yeah. and i don't know the answer. [13:31] oh well, if i can reproduce it somehow (may involve the evil 'doze), then i'll come back [13:31] thought it was some new feature or something [13:32] Hobbsee: alright ;-) [13:32] and no, it's supposed to be in the user directory only and those are not special directories, you can remove them if you want [13:35] seb128: yeah, that is the problem - I've no idea how :p all the other packages use the python stuff...I'll bring it up at the meeting tomorrow, I am sure someone can help ;-) [13:37] seb128: that's what i thought. they only came into kde after i stopped using it, so... [13:38] kwwii: what package are you changing? [13:39] human icon theme [13:46] kwwii: easy way is what gartoon is doing [13:46] kwwii: debian/gnome-icon-theme-gartoon.links [13:47] usr/share/icons/gartoon/scalable/filesystems/network-workgroup.svg [13:47] ups [13:47] usr/share/icons/gartoon/scalable/filesystems/gnome-fs-network.svg usr/share/icons/gartoon/scalable/filesystems/network-workgroup.svg [13:47] kwwii: create a debian/human-icon-theme.links and write "source link" lines [13:48] kwwii: the symlinks will be created during the build automatically [13:49] kwwii: sould be trivial enough to do [13:50] seb128: cool, I'll look into that, thanks [13:51] you are welcome [14:00] seb128: gnome-icon-theme does that as well, right? [14:00] andreasn: I though but apparently not the current package [14:01] andreasn: the right way is to change the makefiles or use icon-naming-utils I think, but I've other thing to do and that's a detail [14:01] yeah [14:01] the right thing to do is to fix nautilus etc. to use proper names [14:02] I'll see if I can find someone interested in doing that [14:02] (for 2.24 obviosly) [14:03] if I do it myself I'm just going to end up breaking the whole thing... [14:03] :) [14:04] andreasn: well, those are the new gvfs names, so that's rather the icon themes that need to be updated, no? [14:04] andreasn: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=506532 [14:04] Gnome bug 506532 in general "icons needed for gvfs" [Normal,New] [14:05] ah, that one === walters_ is now known as walter === walter is now known as walters [14:31] kwwii, see qry-msg [14:43] crevette: ping? [14:43] lmanul, salut [14:44] crevette: Salut :) [14:44] crevette: about the "(copy)" patch [14:44] crevette: what do you need reworked? Is it only that it doesn't apply to the newest files? [14:44] hmmm [14:44] what are you talking about ? [14:45] ah I was talking to you [14:45] You made a comment on a bug concerning file duplication [14:45] When you duplicate a file, where to place the "(copy)" string [14:45] I think I had written a patch for this a long time ago [14:45] And your comment requested that I rework it :) [14:45] ah in Nautilus ? [14:46] crevette: yes, Nautilus sorry [14:46] ouch, long time I didn't look at this bug [14:46] * crevette fires it CCed bug list [14:46] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=351290 ? [14:46] Gnome bug 351290 in File and Folder Operations "Misplaced (copy) text with copy/paste file duplication" [Trivial,New] [14:47] crevette: Right, well you left a comment 4 days ago, is that such a long time? :-) [14:47] ah not so long ago [14:47] :) [14:47] yeah I remember having pinged you [14:48] I overlooked over the bug and Martin didn't seems to be completely happy with you patch, so I just pinged you [14:48] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=351290#c5 has an interesting comment [14:49] Hmm, the one from Christian? [14:49] crevette: I guess I could do that [14:50] perhaps you should talk with Martin and Christian [14:50] crevette: I was just unsure what the decision would be on this, the patch is easy to write, it just needs a good decision [14:50] crevette: right [14:50] yeah [15:05] slomo_: I assume we can sync gst-plugins-good0.10, right? we have -2 but there's -3 in unstable, which backports a patch from trunk [15:05] yes [15:06] great, I'll test build and install and ask for a sync then :) [15:07] lmanul, on my opinion, I'm thinking Copy of would be better [15:07] and I think easier to implement :) [15:07] crevette: Start the new name with "Copy of" ? [15:07] yep [15:07] crevette: but then the alphabetization is screwed [15:07] yeah [15:07] perhaps I'm too biaised due to my Windows habits at work [15:08] crevette: well, you can leave a comment :) [15:08] sometime I would liek to have a brainwash [15:08] no non [15:10] Good luck Mr Phelps :) [15:22] seb128: ^-- can you sync gst-plugins-good0.10 from unstable? it backports a change from upstream CVS [15:22] we have no local changes [15:26] pochu: synced [15:26] pochu: wants to write a mir page for libarchive? ;-) [15:26] hmm, right click on a folder -> share folder -> install smb and nfs -> ok -> ...installing... -> install nfs and smb?? -> ok -> install nfs and smb?? [15:26] seb128: ^-- known issue? [15:27] seb128: sounds good, is it already useful (to test it) [15:27] ? [15:28] pochu: there is a bug about the install thing not working correctly [15:28] ok, I won't report it again then ;) [15:29] pochu: but pitti just approved nautilus-share for main so I'm going to remove shares-admin today I think [15:29] ah, ok [15:29] libarchive is for the gvfs archive backend, right? [15:29] seb128, really ? cool [15:29] yes [15:29] ok [15:29] seb128, nautilus-share ? ah I read gnome-user-share ? [15:30] there a lot of *-share aroung G world [15:30] crevette: yes, nautilus-share [15:30] not really consistent [15:30] crevette: gnome-user-share is the suck, webdav sharing has a poor win integration [15:30] the thing is the developer is always a GNOME core developper [15:30] seb128, yeah :/ [15:31] but for Unix LAN is it awesome [15:31] right [15:31] but the world is not all unix [15:31] youp [15:31] seb128: it installed it, but didn't detected it, so kept asking for installing it. I've cancelled, it wasn't detected as installed, so I closed it. When clicking on share folder again, everything went fine (samba and nfs were there as options) [15:31] and we have quite some user sharing over samba [15:31] pochu: right, it needs a restart to list understand that something has been installed [15:32] pochu: that's what the open bug states rather [15:32] I didn't try [15:32] so I can confirm it then :) [15:32] pochu: and yes, libarchive is for the gvfs archive backend [15:35] seb128: ah, it's even milestoned for hardy [15:36] I guess you will unmilestone it once nautilus-share is the default [15:36] yes, I'll close it [15:41] I would dream about an unified capplet for file-sharing for desktop [15:44] crevette: good idea, you should start working on that ;-) [15:44] yeah :/ [15:45] but GNOME HIG doesn't fit well with multi tab on several level; Apple HIG has the necessary widgetery [15:45] It would allow to just incorporate the glade into a top level glade :) [15:56] seb128: you should not be changing of existing menus from applications-merged [15:57] seb128: because you have no idea what order things in application-merged will be loaded so you have no guarantee you'll 'win' and get your layout honored [15:57] Amaranth: can you write that on the bug? ;-) [15:58] hehe, alright [16:03] Amaranth: thanks [16:56] pitti: I'm not sure to understand your comment on bug #51255 [16:56] Launchpad bug 51255 in gnome-panel "No 12-hour clock available in spanish language" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/51255 [16:57] pitti: the clock applet has a 12 or 24 hours option which is available when the locale definition supports that [16:58] seb128: hm, seems to be a chicken-egg problem then [16:58] because, if I add the AM/PM definition to the locale, people can't use 24 hour any more [16:59] and since upstream also advised against it, I reverted the aptch [17:01] pitti: how can't they? [17:02] pitti: using french (and I think it's the same in de locale) my clock applet has the 12 or 24 options [17:03] seb128: de_DE has an empty am_pm defintion, and if I try to use 12 hour, it still uses 24 hours [17:03] seb128: fr_FR has the same [17:03] seb128: does it actually work for you? [17:04] no [17:04] but I think it used to work previous cycles [17:04] maybe the new clock applet is broken in that regard [17:04] but this bug is not new [17:43] slomo_: there's a liferea RFS at bug 201226, will you be able to look at it? [17:43] Launchpad bug 201226 in liferea "Please sponsor liferea 1.4.14 (main) into Hardy" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/201226 [18:06] pochu: is the freeze exception stuff already done and it only needs to be uploaded? [18:07] slomo_: it's a bug fix release, so it doesn't need any exception [18:07] so yes, just uploading :) [18:08] ok [18:18] slomo_: thank you [18:18] np :) === ember_ is now known as ember [20:35] hello [20:43] re crevette === seb128_ is now known as seb128 === onestone__ is now known as onestone