[00:01] yep [00:02] wrong window [00:05] ScottK2: seriously dude, I find git a lot more user friendly :/ [00:07] Heh. [00:07] svn does the job for me. It's shortcomings don't really impact on the work I do. [00:07] well, that's what I was using, but no longer have that option [00:08] must conform to the bzr world order ;-) [00:09] Bah. I have yet to run into it outside Ubuntu. [00:11] ScottK2: emacs :-) [00:12] the only thing I've used outside of Ubuntu is CVS and SVN [00:12] although I use git-{cvs,svn} and bzr-svn to get practice [00:15] ScottK2: I'd like to see vlc 0.8.6e in Hardy, as the diffs between releases are somewhat massive, there are lots of security issues, and backporting patches is painful due to the code changes. This release appears to be mostly bugfixes (it fixes at least 6 security issues), but the diff is... very very large. [00:15] Any chance of a FFe? [00:15] Or shall I try to find the patches that they can't be bothered releasing? [00:15] Fujitsu: +1 [00:15] Hi all - would someone mind helping me with a package? [00:15] Is vlc main or universe? [00:15] I've uploaded my progress to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/204005 [00:15] Launchpad bug 204005 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] libtcnative" [Wishlist,New] [00:16] ScottK2: multiverse, I believe. [00:16] The package works and all, but I want to make it ready for inclusion in Ubuntu and/or Debian [00:16] Fujitsu: Given the volume of bugmail I see on it, I'd say bring on the crack. [00:16] ScottK2: I'll file a FFe then. Thanks. [00:16] Hmm, it's universe. How strange. [00:27] LaserJock: ping [00:27] LaserJock: what is SqueakPlugin.image? [00:28] Riddell: it's a squeak image for the browser plugin [00:28] Riddell: looking at NEW? [00:28] LaserJock: yes [00:29] I'm sorry for you [00:29] ;-) [00:29] LaserJock: so it's just a binary blob? [00:30] Riddell: yes, I believe so [00:30] LaserJock: belive so? didn't you package it? [00:30] yes [00:30] but with smalltalk I have a hard time distinguishing binary from source [00:31] it has to be run with the VM [00:31] multiverse it is then [00:31] so I guess it'd be like a .jar file in Java perhaps [00:31] oh yes [00:31] all the squeak stuff should go in Muliverse [00:31] *Multiverse [00:36] New Queue Zero! [00:37] Hello [00:37] so.. [00:37] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/204005 is anyone interested in helping me finish this? [00:37] Launchpad bug 204005 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] libtcnative" [Wishlist,New] [00:37] I've already package it - just needs some checking by someone [00:37] Riddell: thank you [00:39] candrews: put it on revu [00:40] I shall do that [00:40] this may take a while :-) [00:44] Riddell: if an empty queue bothers you ;) .... Bug 190744 [00:44] Launchpad bug 190744 in libgdamm3.0 "please sync libgdamm3.0 (3.0.0-2) from unstable/main to universe" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190744 [00:51] superm1: Why on earth does vlc download its own copies of the faad and x264 source packages? That sounds very very wrong. [00:51] Fujitsu, it did that before I came into the picture [00:52] i just wrote a nice rule for it [00:52] I was wondering if you knew the reason. [00:52] crimsun should [00:52] crimsun: Why does vlc need its own copies of the faad and x264 source packages? [00:52] protonchris: ok [00:52] superm1: Thanks. [00:53] Fujitsu, i'll be interested to find out too once it's sorted out [01:01] superm1: Feel like updating it to 0.8.6e? You know it better than I, though I can probably work it out. [01:01] Fujitsu, doesn't it need an FFe for that? [01:01] It fixes 6 CVEs, and ScottK has already said he's probably OK with it. [01:01] Seems to be bugfixes mostly. [01:02] well i'll do the packaging if you do the documentation necessary for it :) [01:02] That's what I was planning. [01:02] Thanks. [01:03] Riddell: thanks. [01:03] cool [01:05] so what do you guys think about removing xserver-xgl? [01:05] +4^10 [01:05] Amaranth, ^ [01:05] Isn't Xgl still useful for some cards? [01:06] no, not really [01:06] fglrx and nvidia both support running compiz without it [01:06] Ah, right, fglrx does Composite now. Forgot that. [01:06] and nothing else has the horsepower and/or driver features to run Xgl [01:07] and xgl is effectively unmaintained both upstream and in ubuntu [01:07] Kill kill kill! [01:10] superm1: Can you also give the upstream version some extra bit that indicates it's modified? It had me very confused for a while, as diffstat showed hundreds of thousands of lines vanishing silently. [01:11] .release. isn't particularly indicative of changes. [01:11] Fujitsu, sure [01:12] how'd this : [01:12] vlc (0.8.6.release.e+x264svn20071224+faad2.6.1-0ubuntu1) hardy; urgency=low [01:14] That'd be nice, but is unfortunately long... maybe just +ubuntu1? Ideally we wouldn't need it in the first place :( [01:14] well doing it this way w/ a long string would make it easy to know what version though. [01:14] and until this x264/faad inclusion stuff is sorted [01:15] I guess so. It'd be even better to have the full Ubuntu version string in there, but that won't work, and would be inconvenient for security updates (there always are a lot). [01:17] well i'll leave it with the whole thing for now. it will give visibility that this static linking business needs resolution anyhow [01:17] Thinking about it again, horrific version numbers are a good incentive to fix it! [01:17] :) [01:18] I don't think it's as bad as Dapper mplayer's 2:0.99+1.0pre7try2+cvs20060117-0ubuntu8.2. That's got three upstream versions of the same project, plus an epoch. [01:19] haha [01:19] that's crazy [01:29] superm1, ubuntu can carry US-patent-encumbered stuff like x264? [01:29] must be nice being incorporated in the Isle of Man [01:30] mdomsch, i'm not sure the history of what happened on the VLC package [01:30] superm1: Hm, I've just noticed bug #204050. [01:30] Launchpad bug 204050 in vlc "[FFe] PulseAudio output plugin support" [Unknown,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/204050 [01:30] how it came to be included directly in it like this [01:30] superm1: I've just noticed that vlc pulls multiverse sources. [01:30] And vlc is in universe. [01:30] This is what we call a Big Problem. [01:30] so it needs to be downgraded to multiverse [01:30] we'll ask an archive admin to do that with this upload [01:31] Preferably in all releases, but that's not going to happen. [01:31] This is why we don't commit evils like pulling x264 sources in. [01:31] well hopefully there is a good reason why it has to be done this way [01:31] like i said, i just wrote a pretty rule to make it easier to do :) [01:31] I know. [01:32] Fujitsu, i'll cancel my test build and add that patch too [01:32] superm1: Great. [01:32] look what you convinced me into working on. this is how mplayer started out too some time back. one patch here, one there, next thing i know, i'm investing a few hours into debugging a build :) [01:33] Mhm. [01:33] I got mplayer to build again in Hardy. [01:36] it broke? [01:36] It did. [01:36] It even builds on all archs, which it hasn't before in Hardy. [01:37] (it only built on i386 and amd64 because added libsvga1-dev to the build-depends, when it only exists on x86 archs) [01:37] But the reason for its FTBFS was due to some CFLAGS changes, I believe. [01:37] s/because/because you/ [01:39] some changes I made to CFLAGS? [01:39] Not yours, no. [01:39] i was gonna say, i dont remember touching them [01:40] You added the build-dependency on libsvga1-dev. [01:40] oh. [01:40] yeah i remember doing that a long time ago [01:41] night people [01:42] Night emgent. [01:44] Fujitsu, any others that I should roll up into this before queuing a build? [01:44] obj bug 196417 which is referenced from bug 204050 [01:44] Launchpad bug 196417 in vlc "vlc pulseaudio support" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/196417 [01:44] Launchpad bug 204050 in vlc "[FFe] PulseAudio output plugin support" [Unknown,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/204050 [01:45] superm1: Not that I know of, but I don't know vlc well. [01:46] glancing through the bug reports, looks like a tun of crashy bugs [01:46] oh yeah this was the package i worked on that pre-empted my asking when LP will learn to send these all upstream [01:46] and just hearing "its in the pipeline" [01:47] That's what one hears about LP bugs, unfortunately. [01:54] Heya gang [01:54] Hey bddebian [01:55] Hello protonchris [01:55] Hi bddebian [01:55] Heya tritium === kitterma is now known as ScottK3 [02:26] superm1: Bug #206918 is the FFe. [02:26] Launchpad bug 206918 in vlc "[FFe] vlc 0.8.6e" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/206918 [02:31] thanks Fujitsu === Allan_ is now known as Hit3k [02:34] superm1: Just needs a bild and install log now, I believe. [02:34] *build [02:35] yeah build is failing atm. [02:35] so will take some bit [02:35] i'm going to look at it after i eat [02:37] A MOTU can never eat! [02:47] ... another MOTU. [02:47] (Bylaw 27 s. 12) [02:47] Oh no! It's mneptok! [02:47] ... without cause. [02:47] (Ammendment 2) [02:48] s/cause/just cause/ [02:48] (Ammendment 3a) [02:48] "Why are you chewing my leg?" "Just 'cause." [02:51] StevenK: I was turning it into an Animal Farm-esque modified commandment. [02:55] * jdong contemplates ubuntu'ing this eeepc [02:56] the stock xandros works so decently I don't feel like changing it [03:07] The last Xandros machine I used was shipped configured to automatically keep old conffiles without bothering the user. [03:08] Not a hallmark of thoughtful design IMO. [03:08] ScottK: oh don't get me wrong, Xandros is hacked Debian beyond belief [03:09] ScottK: but as a tuxtype/supertux/firefox/mplayer machine for my little sister, it'll do just fine [03:09] I don't feel like spending 2 hrs getting Ubuntu up on it, then having to be the source of support when things start breaking a few weeks later :) [03:10] The other bit I'll point out is that now that I see how many security updates Ubuntu pumps out, I'd have to classify Xandros security support (this was Xandros 3) as virtually non-existent. Dunno if it's better now. [03:10] ScottK, would you care to comment on the pulse audio FFe for VLC. I'm planning on rolling it up with the FFe for the newer version at the same time [03:11] ScottK: Asus and the EEE community has to cover xandros's behind on that. [03:11] As long as you're going to fix it, it's probably OK superm1, but I haven't looked yet. [03:11] ScottK, let me give you some bug numbers. sec [03:12] superm1: I'm going to bed soon. [03:12] oh okay [03:12] no worries [03:19] ScottK: yeah just throwing in my 2c the pulseaudio patch for vlc looks okay, though I insisted they get a FFe because technically it is a feature addition. [03:21] jdong: Makes sense. Please comment in the relevant bug if you haven't. [03:23] ScottK: Universe security support is virtually non-existent, too. [03:25] Fujitsu: I wouldn't go that far. Even in Universe we do way better than IME Xandros did. [03:25] And for hardy we should do very well indeed. [03:26] Fujitsu: Xandros still doesn't have distribution patches for the Samba root exploit [03:26] jdong: Hahaha. [03:26] Fujitsu: that's how bad it is. [03:27] * Fujitsu tries to get Xen working on Hardy. [03:27] Fujitsu: Asus has updates in their eeepc repo for it, a month late. [03:27] Fujitsu: meanwhile the eee user community provided 0-day updated debs [03:27] Lovely. [03:27] no kidding [03:27] Does the EeePC have an obvious updating feature? [03:27] so... I'd personally trust Ubuntu support :) [03:27] * ScottK wonders about 'security' fixes provided by the kindness of stranders. [03:28] Fujitsu: not particularly..... [03:28] Fujitsu: the update tool is labeled "add/remove software" [03:28] stranders/strangers [03:28] Fujitsu: and it only shows updates to select apps shown on the simple launcher. [03:28] Fujitsu: interestingly the critical Samba update was not shown [03:28] Fujitsu: it was synaptic/apt-get that revealed it :) [03:39] Fujitsu: How do I patch a package that is included in form of a tar.gz? [03:42] txwikinger: Tarball inside a Tarball? [03:42] yes ScottK [03:42] the inside tarball needs a patch [03:42] Painfully. [03:42] Should really be fixed upstream .. I know [03:42] I gave it up as not worth the trouble the one time I've run into it. [03:43] Maybe Fujitsu will have a useful suggestion. [03:43] hi all [03:43] It is a build-error so would be nice to be fixed [03:43] how do i relate a bug report to motu-release? [03:44] subscribe them [03:44] txwikinger: probably the patch target should depend on the rule that extracts the inner tarball [03:44] txwikinger: see firefox-3.0's build system [03:44] schweeb: motu-release@ubuntu.com ? [03:45] jdong: thanks I will have a look [03:45] of course as a SRU this is all a pain in the *** and you should just find a sack of bricks to hit the packager with :D [03:45] s/schweeb/ScottK [03:45] damn auto complete [03:45] skwashd: oh I've done worse, I've tab-completed the punchline to an offense joke to a freenode staffer before :) [03:46] oops. [03:46] jdong: when i am trying to offend people i make sure i have the right person :) [03:48] i think i have done it right now ... well i hope anyway [03:49] i think canonical could make more money offering LP training than ubuntu support [03:49] maybe that is their long term plan [03:53] txwikinger: You'll need to somehow patch it after the build extracts it. I don't know of any packages that do it, but there are a number. [03:54] I'd look, but I'm a bit busy trying to get kernel oopses over netconsole. [03:54] Fujitsu: no problem [03:54] I will tinker a little [03:56] Um. The last comment on bug #194214. What. The. Hell? [03:56] Launchpad bug 194214 in xorg-server "Keys get "stuck" down" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194214 [03:58] RAOF: Errrr. Agreed. [03:58] RAOF: ROFL. nice. [03:58] I believe that's a case of TMI. [03:58] Utterly [03:58] RAOF: but two posts back he says you're his hero [03:58] RAOF: aren't you proud? [03:59] As punch! [04:09] RAOF: You never know, it could be useful information. X may have a porn detector and change behaviour. [04:11] Some sort of "autoscroll", maybe. [04:11] Or possibly a safe-input mode. Who knows! [04:12] Anybody know how I can get kernel oopses written to disk? I can't get netconsole working. [04:13] I seem to remember a LKML flamefest about a logging framework that would let you save such things to disc. [04:13] ScottK: i am happy to discuss bug #206948 here if need more info [04:13] Launchpad bug 206948 in phpgroupware "phpGroupWare should be included in Hardy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/206948 [04:15] Fujitsu, kdump [05:05] can i install ubuntu edubun xunbu kubuntu at the same time? [05:06] pleaseandthankyo: yes, if you have a hard drive with a lot of free space [05:07] pleaseandthankyo: but that's a question that you need to ask on #ubuntu, not here [05:59] ok installed xubuntu and and goubuntu on top of edubuntu where are they now? and how do i load them? [06:00] pleaseandthankyo: #ubuntu, please. [06:23] LaserJock: Can you please give bug #66206 your magical motu-tagging touch? [06:23] Launchpad bug 66206 in malone "No advanced search option to search by bug privacy" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/66206 [06:23] looking [06:26] Fujitsu: yeah, that's a bit unfortunate for trying to do SWAT work [06:26] tell them to open source malone and we will add it :p [06:26] pfft, yeah right [06:26] haha [06:26] nixternal: I wish. [06:26] I know, that is exactly the reason I said it [06:27] I like to throw in LP and Free when either you or ScottK is around..it is fun :) [06:27] LaserJock: It's particularly bad as toggling the security tag doesn't toggle the ubuntu-security subscription. [06:27] * Fujitsu is a rehabilitated version of ScottK. [06:33] heh [06:39] Hobbsee: Thanks for the vlc ack. [06:40] Fujitsu: y/w [06:43] too bad i still didn't get it to properly build :( [06:43] faad2 from within has the better of me right now. [06:43] i'm going to have to defer this until tomorrow evening [06:44] superm1: The lack of quality of media players (ie. mplayer, vlc) is insane. So many security flaws, so delicate... [06:45] rather unfortunate that's the way it is too [06:46] Indeed. [06:48] I don't see such problems with Totem, Rhythmbox, Banshee, etc. Is gstreamer better written, or do all these problems merely appear further down the stack, in gst? [06:48] I think GStreamer just manages to not suck horribly. [06:48] Although it also doesn't seem to play as much. [06:48] And has sane devs. [06:49] I am in 'playing video' hell...mplayer, vlc..none of them want to work for me lately [06:49] got to the point that all vlc did was crash, so I uninstalled it [06:49] nixternal: Try the new mplayer that I finally got built yesterday. [06:49] I haven't encountered anything I couldn't play in quite a while. On the other hand, I also don't aquire random samples of video in random containers with random codecs from teh intarwebs very much. [06:49] Fujitsu: have you uploaded it yet? [06:50] nixternal: I have. Just security fixes, but it now builds everywhere... more importantly it hasn't built in a while, and I want people to test it's not more broken :P [06:51] ok, must have updated earlier w/o me noticing it [07:35] * StevenK found a HD video that he didn't have a codec for yesterday === thekorn_ is now known as thekorn === pgquiles__ is now known as pgquiles === \sh_away is now known as \sh [09:39] <\sh> moins [09:43] <\sh> cody-somerville: dude, what do you need to get xubuntu rolling again? [09:44] * cody-somerville rubs his eyes. [09:44] * cody-somerville just woke up. [09:45] Gotta get ready for work. Chat with you later \sh? [09:46] <\sh> cody-somerville: ok :) [09:46] <\sh> cody-somerville: see you this evening at the meeting [09:46] :D [09:47] Awesome. Chow! :) [09:49] Any motu-release members around? [09:49] Does the following count as a feature? [09:49] * Patch to allow non-ASCII characters in notifications, etc. [09:51] <\sh> Fujitsu: I would say no..but it's just me...not a motu-release dude [09:51] It's part of Nagios 2.11, which has a security fix and several other bugfixes. [09:52] <\sh> well, I would say, that when notifications were not there , and they were added, then it's a new feature...but changing notificiations to show non-ascii chars...is not a new feature, more a fix for an annoying bug ;) [09:57] <\sh> waaaaa.....all seasons of southpark are online [09:57] <\sh> for free at least [09:58] <\sh> http://www.southparkstudios.com/episodes/ :) now I need an FLV downloader for it [10:05] Hobbsee: ^^ [10:10] TheMuso: Do you think I need a FFe for the above? [10:11] Fujitsu: I wouldn't think so, but others may see it differently. [10:11] It sounds more like a bug to me. [10:11] It could be, right. [10:29] <\sh> Fujitsu: upload ;) [10:36] Fujitsu: I think I figured it out :) === asac_ is now known as asac [11:44] Fujitsu: i would say no [11:44] to your first qn === \sh is now known as \sh_away [11:44] oh, they're the same qn === \sh_away is now known as \sh [11:48] Fujitsu: I can't grok this petsc problem... [11:52] mok0: Can you see the difference in the configure.log? [11:52] * mok0 thinks [11:53] Fujitsu: Just to recap: I gave up on your suggestion of installing the older petsc version in my SID builder, because it gave a whole cascade of required packages. [11:54] Fujitsu: Re Nagios I wouldn't call that a feature. [11:54] Lovely. [11:54] Fujitsu: I am now trying to build the newest SID version of petsc, but even that is giving me troubles [11:54] ScottK: That seemed to be the general opinion. I filed a sync request some time ago. [11:54] ScottK: Thanks. [11:55] OK. It's just starting the day here. [11:55] So I'm torn.... [11:55] ScottK: lovely sunshine here... [11:56] SPE (Stani's Python Editor) had a new release yesterday which is in Debian and I've got a sync request in for (bugfix release). [11:56] Today there's a new bug filed in Ubuntu against spe that says, oh BTW, I'm using the svn version. [11:56] * Fujitsu has evaded 3 FFes today. [11:57] Fujitsu: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6090/ [11:57] Fujitsu: i doubt anyone's checking them or not anyway. [11:57] Fujitsu: of course, fi the turn out to be crack, then you will get yelled at, but... [11:57] So do I mark it invalid because they aren't using the Ubuntu package or leave it since the svn version he's using is probably the same as what'll be in Hardy. [11:57] Fujitsu: Trying to build the merged 2.3.3-9 [11:58] They were all security fixes, or security fixes + other fixes. [11:58] You're in demand, Fujitsu, I'll just wait [11:58] mok0: Looking. [11:58] Debian bug #403078. [11:58] Debian bug 403078 in petsc "petsc: doesn't build as root" [Wishlist,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/403078 [11:59] The solution is to just not build it as root... [11:59] How're you trying to build it? [11:59] effie_jayx; are you still working on Bug #182049? [11:59] Launchpad bug 182049 in clustalw "man page -help vms reference wrongbi" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182049 [11:59] fakeroot debian/rules build [11:59] Fujitsu: I can't even make a source package [12:00] mok0: Does debuild -S not work/ [12:00] Fujitsu: No [12:00] What dies? [12:00] Fujitsu: oh, hang on [12:02] Fujitsu: it seems to work, but I get a bunch of [: 7: ==: unexpected operator [12:02] mok0: It still seems to work OK. [12:03] Fujitsu: it's building now... hang on [12:04] ydrk, what an ugly build system... [12:05] Fujitsu: those unexpected operators warnings are usually due to a null variable === \sh is now known as \sh_away === \sh_away is now known as \sh [12:10] Fujitsu: ok, libpetsc2.3.3_2.3.3-9ubuntu1_amd64.deb was built [12:11] Fujitsu: (just a crude merge using "grab_merge") [12:11] mok0: Great, I guess you should now try to build illuminator with it... hopefully it'll work. [12:11] I'll do that next [12:13] Fujitsu: arrg, I didn't remove all instances of the libspooles dep [12:13] :( [12:16] Fujitsu: No, I still get the "checking for PetscPrintf in -lpetsc... no" error [12:22] Fujitsu: Hmm, it has to do with the mpi component [12:24] mok0: There was something in debian about LAM vs. OpenMPI or so. I forget. [12:24] Fujitsu: yeah, that's part of it [12:28] Fujitsu: I get this in config.log: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lmpi [12:28] mok0: Sounds like libpetsc-dev might want to depend on libopenmpi-dev. [12:29] yes === ScottK3 is now known as ScottK2 [12:32] A lot of ScottK clones around here today :-) [12:32] Not as many as yesterday which is why this one got to three. [12:33] ScottK: :-) ... thanks for taking serpentine off my hands btw. I was stressed out and fed up with not-applicaple upstream patches [12:33] Hi [12:36] mok0: No problem. I mostly got lucky as Debian took care of it and I could sync. [12:36] ScottK2: oh, good [12:36] mok0: Feel free to work on Bug #204895 as penance. [12:36] Launchpad bug 204895 in harvestman "Packages failed archive rebuild test possibly due to python-central transition" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/204895 [12:40] ScottK: The idea is that packages should use python-central instead of python-support, is that right? [12:42] mok0: No. The idea is that some packages that use python-central hard coded stuff into debian/rules that now breaks the packages since python-central changed. [12:42] ScottK2: ok [12:42] mok0: You have to look at the build log and see why the package died. About half these died for other reasons. [12:46] mok0: Feel free to fix the other reasons too ... [12:47] ScottK2: I will see if I can do something [12:47] mok0: Great. Thanks. [12:47] atm I am working on the gfortran transistion [12:48] which is almost done [12:53] ScottK: I am not sure I like the new policy that you have to be an Ubuntu Member before you can join the MOTUs. There are 920 proposed members in that group, and that number is constantly rising. [12:54] mok0: Well the key point is that the MOTU Council also gets the ability to make people a member, so you don't get caught in the general backlog. [12:54] mok0: It's actually a reinstatement of an old requirement. [12:54] * ScottK2 had to go to the CC to get member status before I could apply to MOTU. [12:55] ScottK2: OK, the backlog concerned me. I can't see how 900 applications can ever get handled [12:55] IIRC, you can still get them at the same time. [12:55] must be a motu meeting still [12:55] Yes. [12:55] er, soon [12:55] Thursday/Friday depending on where you live. === \sh is now known as \sh_away [13:07] Fujitsu: illumators build system is inconsistent in the way it understands the variable PETSC_DIR [13:07] mok0: Oh goody. [13:08] Fujitsu: first it uses it to find a program called petscarch, where the variable needs to be set to "/usr" [13:08] mok0: I'll be off to bed shortly; there's a security team meeting in a bit under 6 hours. [13:08] Fujitsu: another place it needs to be /usr/lib/petscdir/2.3.3 [13:09] Fujitsu: Ok, I'll struggle with this stuff. I am annoyed that I can't figure out why the package builds on SID but not on hardy [13:10] Fujitsu: Probably some stupid little thing [13:20] Fujitsu: are you still here? [13:21] Fujitsu: one problem is that /usr/lib/libmpi.so -> /etc/alternatives/libmpi.so -> /usr/lib/openmpi/lib/libmpi.so, which does not exist [13:23] mok0: Do you build-dep on libopenmpi-dev? [13:24] ScottK2: yes [13:24] http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=libmpi.so&mode=exactfilename&suite=hardy&arch=any [13:24] claims that package provides that file. [13:32] Scott, yes, but the alternative links to lbimpi.so.0 which is not there [13:33] ScottK: the alternate link is wrong, it should point to libmpi.so instead [13:33] I see. [13:33] ScottK2: I don't know if that has happened on my local machine only when setting up the alternates [13:34] ScottK2: ... and I haven't grokked the alternate system yet [13:34] I guess have a look at the package and see. It's a bit complex to write debian/rules for alternatives, but I think they are reasonable clear to read. [13:35] ScottK2: but is there a utility to manipulate them? [13:35] ah, update-alternatives [13:36] Yes. [13:39] Arrrrghh a cascading bug... [13:40] mok0: The good news is that you're finding the real root cause and dealing with it and not just papering over it. [13:41] ScottK: I guess... [13:42] I reasonable fraction of the Main uploads I've done since I got core-dev have been unpapering over and fixing problems, so I may be a bit sensitive on the matter. [13:42] I/A === \sh_away is now known as \sh [13:46]