/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/03/26/#ubuntu-ops.txt

ubotuIn ubotu, zoredache said: !lowmemory is <reply> For installing on low memory systems, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems.  See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements.00:00
ubotuIn ubotu, zoredache said: !lowmem is <alias> lowmemory00:00
ompaul!lowmemory is <reply> For installing on low memory systems, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems.  See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements.00:01
ubotuI'll remember that, ompaul00:01
ompaul!lowmem is <alias> lowmemory00:01
ompaulhmm00:02
ompaul!lowmem 00:02
ubotuFor installing on low memory systems, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems.  See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements.00:02
ompaulzoredache, that's a good one - wonder how often it will be called though00:02
zoredacheit almost seems to long... but questions about low-memory installs are asked frequently on xubuntu00:02
zoredacheI figure I will use it about 3-4 times a day00:03
ompaulzoredache, I used to think that one line was too long 00:03
ompaulbut we don't have url.ubuntu.com to make stuff short00:03
* ompaul notes that 00:03
ompaulmneptok, ^^ that is a good idea ;-)00:03
ompaulurl.ubuntu.com for tinyurls for ubuntu00:04
* nikrud pats ompaul on the back00:04
elky_workif it could be limited to ubuntu domain urls, sure00:04
ompaulit could 00:04
elky_workotherwise, it'll be misused for links to pr0n :(00:04
mneptokompaul: somewhere, right now, elmo got the shivers.00:04
ompaulmneptok, and he will more than shiver when I say it to him face to face00:05
ompaul:)00:05
ompaulhahaha00:05
elky_workmneptok, i have elmo's number in my phone, shall i ring him up and tell him you like the idea?00:05
ompaulelky_work, careful now - elmo having shivers or the tinyurl ?00:05
mneptokelky_work: go for it. he doesn't care what i think. he *does* care whose fingers just dialed him at midnight.00:06
elky_workompaul, well, once i tell him about the tinyurl and how mneptok likes it, he'll shiver, and then i'll tell him mneptok likes the thought of him shivering00:07
* ompaul Reductio ad absurdum00:07
elky_workmneptok, i didnt say i was going to do it now00:07
ompaul6.10 goes out on October 26, 200600:08
elky_worko.O00:10
elky_workare you providing the time-machine?00:10
ompauldamn00:13
ompaulFriday April 25th, 2008 << eol00:14
ompauland here is my stupid comment fwiw -- that is too short a time gap between release of hardy and it 00:14
ompaulin a production env I need to migrate to something and need time to do so00:15
mneptokyou had time00:15
mneptokyou could have upgraded to 7.04 or 7.1000:15
elky_workmneptok, lts>lts?00:15
mneptokor stayed with Dapper.00:16
ompaulmneptok, stayed ;-)00:16
mneptok6.10 != LTS00:16
ompaulahh00:16
elky_workoh, right, im misreading00:16
ompaulwoops00:16
ompaulso am I00:16
* ompaul desk heads00:16
elky_workthis is what happens when you IRC from work :P00:16
mneptoki love truth in advertising00:16
mneptok 20:13          ompaul + and here is my stupid comment fwiw00:17
mneptok:P00:17
elky_worklol00:17
ompaulgegegege00:17
ompaulhahahaah00:17
mneptokswallow the beer before laughing00:17
ompaulright it is midnight 17 and I will use that as my excuse00:17
ompaulbacking up my brother in laws pc before it gets the "restore" to first version treatment00:19
ompaulright backup done 00:21
ompaulbeen about 3 hours to do it over the wire with a live CD 00:22
ompaulso now I can power it all off and sort it tomorrow 00:22
Hobbseemmm...lots of green00:42
HobbseeLjL: i'm sorry , i don't see you as a liar.  I'm seeing you as someone who went and got proof about the allegations, which is far better than accusing without proof, and is in fact, the ubuntu way of doing things.00:46
HobbseeLjL: as it is, i'd suggest circulating this logs around other channels that she's known to visit, so the chanops there can make their own decisions (like -women, for eg)00:46
elky_workHobbsee,  pleia2 is here anyway00:48
Hobbseeelky_work: ahh, useful.00:51
pleia2yes, I've kept up on this whole thing :)00:53
tonyyarussogood00:53
Hobbseeexcellent00:53
* mneptok noogies pleia2 01:14
tritiumI'm not so sure the topic change was required.01:38
Hobbseetritium: why?01:41
tritiumHobbsee: for the same reasons LjL didn't like it01:42
MrUnagii noticed that the ban on the connection at my work was lifted.......i wasnt sure if that was a mistake or not01:49
* tritium just noticed that emma is opped up in ##ubuntu-ops01:50
elky_workwtf01:50
nikrudoh, I like the name of that channel01:50
tritiumNo kidding01:50
tonyyarussoMrUnagi: what's the work hostname?01:50
tonyyarusso@btlogin01:50
MrUnagiim not sure but my dad was just on it under waynrdude and either evo or sle01:51
tonyyarussoMrUnagi: Tennessee?01:52
MrUnagiyes01:52
tonyyarusso'k01:52
MrUnagiis it a mistake?01:52
elky_workgive him time to look01:53
MrUnagiim sorry01:53
MrUnagilol im not educated in the ways of irc opping :D01:53
elky_workMrUnagi, he's checking the records we keep for each other's sanity, but the records system runs on sqlite which is um... well.. not really suitible.01:54
MrUnagislow?01:54
elky_workas a snail01:54
MrUnagithats no good lol01:54
MrUnagiwhat exactly does sql stand for01:54
elky_workstandard query language iirc01:54
nikrudstructured query language01:55
elky_workaha01:55
* nikrud goes off to check his memoyr01:55
tonyyarussoMrUnagi: Okay, looks like I've found the relevant portions, parsing the comments and logs attached.01:55
MrUnagiokies01:55
elky_worknikrud, i think you're right01:56
nikrudacronyms often defeat me, but I got this one right01:56
tonyyarussoMrUnagi: erm, it appears you've actually had quite a few - which channel(s) were you referring to?01:58
[agatha]you should watch out with aoupi in offtopic 01:58
[agatha]he's being waaaaaaaaay rude 01:58
[agatha]thanks 01:58
tonyyarussoAny Spanish speakers able to follow up on that?01:58
tritiumI'll check01:59
mneptokmomento01:59
tritiumAs much as I hate #ubuntu-offtopic...01:59
nikrudagatha seems to have handled it herself01:59
tonyyarussoMrUnagi: it appears to be configured in such a way that your family can get in, but not you.  Could you confirm or deny that?02:00
Mr_Unagiim sorry i lost connection02:02
Mr_Unagii am now on my home connection02:02
tonyyarussoMr_Unagi: it appears to be configured in such a way that your family can get in, but not you.  Could you confirm or deny that?02:02
Mr_Unaginot at the moment i couldnt, because i am no longer there.....i had not tried to connect with my laptop02:03
Mr_Unagibrg02:03
Mr_Unagibrb02:03
* tritium is quickly reminded why he hates #ubuntu-offtopic02:05
elky_workheh02:05
nikrudit's good for you tritium02:05
tritiumnikrud: no, really, I don't think so02:06
nikrudit's always good to touch base with inanity, gives a reference point02:06
tritiumnikrud: ;)02:06
mneptokHI NIKRUD!02:15
mneptoki see you used the "summon mneptok" phrase02:15
mneptok("touch base with inanity")02:15
nikrudmneptok lol, you do that too then02:15
mneptoknikrud: every time i begin to believe you guys and start thinking i'm one of the stranger people on IRC, -offtopic soon cures me of such delusions.02:16
nikrudmneptok don't be delusional ;)02:16
mneptokyeah, i can act really, REALLY weird. but the pivotal word is "act."02:17
mneptokthse other people are *drop dead serious*02:17
mneptokwhich is both hysterically funny, and about the most depressing thing i can think of.02:17
mneptoklike a Nazi dressed like a bunny.02:17
nikrudheh. Likewise, I'm notorious for it. One upmanship is a nice game in small doses02:17
nikrudwhat's really fun is throwing in a profundity now and then (I have to crib those)02:18
tritiumI've had my share for the evening.02:19
nikrudgood night tritium 02:19
tritiumnikrud: oh, I just meant I was /parting #ubuntu-offtopic ;)02:19
nikrudyou still watching that? My god, go read some voltaire, or something, get it out of your system02:20
tritiumI think I will :)02:21
tritiumGood night.02:21
Mr_Unagiis there any indication when the bans will lifted for me? or was the decision just randomly made to lift it for my works connection02:30
nikrudcould someone remove the redundant gutsysources is at the beginning from !gutsysources?03:21
Jberg88can someone help me with this test thing I can03:25
Jberg88i can't get understand what's going one?03:25
mneptokJberg88: you got a warning about being vulnerable to an attack?03:32
Jberg88me no way 03:33
Jberg88How do I fix this?03:33
mneptokfix what?03:33
elky_workyou didnt get a warning, or you think you're not vulnerable?03:33
Jberg88I don't think I am vulnerable at all03:34
elky_workmneptok, care to do a manual test?03:34
naliothJberg88: if you fall offline, please rejoin #ubuntu-read-topic when you return03:34
elky_worknope, not at all03:34
naliothok, then03:34
* mneptok 1 | clueless newb 003:34
elky_workJberg88, you *are* vulnerable03:35
Jberg88damn it 03:35
mneptokJberg88: welcome back. shall i cause you to be disconnected again? or would *you* rather control your own computer? ;)03:35
elky_workJberg88, please read the actual topic of  #ubuntu-read-topic this time03:35
Jberg88I did03:36
elky_workJberg88, and of course you obeyed the instructions there?03:36
Jberg88not thoroughly  :O 03:36
elky_workJberg88, so, you've not changed your port to 8001 instead of 6667?03:36
elky_workthat's all you need to do to avoid snotty little brats making you disconnect from irc03:37
Jberg88ok thank you03:37
mneptokhey now. i've started wiping my nose.03:37
elky_workheh03:37
elky_workyou will need to restart your client after making the change03:38
mneptokJberg88: connectez-vous a porte 8001, re-/join cette canal, et je vous teste encore.03:38
Jberg88merci03:38
mneptokde rien03:38
Jberg88how did you know i spoke french?03:38
mneptok 23:31  -[%]- the whois of Jberg88 -[%]- 03:39
mneptok 23:31   host     : n=Jberg88@bcvpn33.bc.edu 03:39
mneptok 23:31   ircname  : Ergy Jean-Baptiste03:39
mneptok 23:31  -[%]- the whois of Jberg88 -[%]- 03:39
mneptok 23:31   host     : n=Jberg88@bcvpn33.bc.edu 03:39
mneptok 23:31   ircname  : Ergy Jean-Baptiste03:39
mneptokJ-B est une prenom *Francais*03:39
mneptoketes-vouse pretes?03:40
mneptok-e03:40
Jberg88:O 03:40
Jberg88oui 03:40
mneptok:/03:40
mneptoktest failed (obviously)03:40
elky_workJberg88, what client are you using?03:41
Jberg88yeah 03:41
Jberg88I am on the recommended ports though03:41
mneptokJberg88: set your client to use port 8001 for Freenode, then quit and restart the IRC client03:41
Jberg88ok trying it again03:41
mneptokelky_work: Colloquy (OSX)03:41
Jberg88that's creepy03:41
mneptokJberg88: you have no idea how creepy i am.03:42
mneptokJberg88: want to be *really* scared? i'm an American ... who has chosen to live in Quebec.03:42
mneptokcreepy enough? ;)03:42
* nickrud doesn't believe a word about mneptok being american03:42
Jberg88lol03:43
elky_worknickrud, he does not in any way sound canadian...03:43
nickrudnope. Not nearly scary enough03:43
mneptokJberg88: quand vouse etes pretes ...03:43
mneptok-e03:43
Jberg88I don't think it's going to work but I am not seeing why its not working 03:44
Jberg88I am on the correct port on irc.freenode.net03:45
Jberg88going to quit and restart03:45
* nickrud thinks mneptok tries to live up to his last name, just as I do03:46
Jberg88back03:46
mneptokJberg88: encore plus?03:46
Jberg88pelase 03:47
Jberg88please03:47
* mneptok waits03:47
mneptok:/03:47
elky_workJberg88, you are fully closing the whole entire irc client, as in, quitting colloquy completely so it is not running at all, right?03:47
* mneptok goes to remind himself of the name of the other good freeware OSX IRC client03:47
elky_workmneptok, xchat? :P03:48
Jberg88aaaaaaaaaahhhh!!03:48
Jberg88elky_work: yeah 03:48
Jberg88I have ubuntu on parallels on my computer but I dont use it much 03:49
mneptokelky_work: not updated in 2 years03:49
mneptokJberg88: http://www.cs.umu.se/~nilsh/MacIrssi-0.8.2.dmg03:49
* mneptok > Metro > ma maison03:50
mneptoka toute a l'heure, Jberg88. bon chance.03:50
Jberg88mneptok: that program fails03:52
elky_workJberg88, sounds like you need a better OS :P03:53
Jberg88doesn't even run 03:53
Jberg88brb03:53
Jberg88this is really annoying 03:56
Jberg88anyone?04:03
Jberg88test me04:04
Jberg88ooops04:04
Jberg88ugh04:08
naliothJberg88: try xchat aqua04:09
Jberg88alright04:09
nickrud!automatix04:46
ubotuAutomatix is no longer developed or supported by its creators and is not recommended, supported or needed by Ubuntu. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »04:46
naliothHERETIC!04:46
naliothoh04:46
tritiumnalioth: are you still involved with easyubuntu?04:47
nickrudnah, just wanted to make sure it had the new info about not being developed04:47
nickrudsaw envy being discussed and it brought it to mind04:47
Mr_Unagiwhat was automatix04:48
nickrudMr_Unagi check the link04:49
mneptok"a bad idea"04:49
Mr_Unagijust did =)04:49
Mr_Unagimuch easier this way lol04:49
naliothtritium: easyubuntu went obsolete with edgy04:49
tritiumnalioth: ah, really?04:49
naliothtritium: one click installs were introduced with edgy04:50
naliothautomatix was carried on for this long as an ego-boost for its people04:50
tritiumWhat do you mean by "one-click installs"?04:51
naliothtritium: i mean with a fresh install, you click on bambi.avi and a popup asks you if you want to install the codecs and play it04:52
naliothtritium: where have you been?04:52
nickrudheh. texas humor04:52
tritiumnalioth: I'm aware of the codec assistant.04:52
tritiumI'm not used to describing it as 'one click install'04:52
naliothmaybe "no-click install" ?04:52
naliothanyway, easyubuntu was obsolete at that time04:53
tritiumI see.04:53
nickrudmaybe the factoid should change then04:54
nickrud!easyubuntu04:54
ubotueasyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu04:54
naliothit says it's for dapper only on the website04:54
Hobbseewhat's the name of black-magic's bot?06:36
anthonyI think it was Johnny4 when I banned it, but not today.06:38
Hobbseei wonder waht it is today06:40
Hobbseei think it's in -offtopic again06:40
anthonywhat makes you think so?06:41
Hobbseejust they way they're talking06:42
anthonyhmm, ok06:42
anthony@btlogin06:42
anthonyaww, stupid bot06:42
tonyyarusso@btlogin06:43
anthonywell, got a login - doesn't mean it works06:44
ubotuFloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)06:45
ubotuFloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)06:45
anthonyHobbsee: It's Reaper` [n=supybot@adsl-99-148-255-87.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net]06:45
Hobbseehm, i don't see one06:46
anthonynope, it's only in his personal channel right now.06:49
anthonyThat silly babbling?  Those are called "users".06:49
anthonykeep an eye on the news links though06:51
anthonyI'm going to bed06:51
naliothbed?06:51
anthonyyeah, it's becoming very attractive more and more often these days06:51
* anthony is working way too much06:52
elkbuntu<MTecknology> !hi > elkbuntu07:12
elkbuntu<Paddy_EIRE> !cake > elkbuntu07:12
elkbuntu<ubotu> MTecknology wants you to know: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu-offtopic!07:12
elkbuntu<ubotu> Paddy_EIRE wants you to know: The cake is a lie.07:12
elkbuntuat 2:35am my time07:12
jussi01Seveas: hi. has the !info <package> part of ubotu been disabled?08:44
kahrytanHello09:20
kahrytanI would like to continue to help people in #ubuntu. I find out relaxing and fun. Anyone mind?09:20
Jucato!ping09:47
ubotuping yourself ;-) really the diodes all down my left side are sore09:47
kahrytan!pong09:49
ubotupong is an old atari game. It's fun!09:49
kahrytanIs not fun :( Defender... funnier09:50
kahrytanWhat a quiet place09:54
Jucatothis place is for operator questions, that's why.09:56
JucatoI'm presuming you're banned from #ubuntu? try contacting the op who banned you09:57
kahrytanoffline?09:58
JucatoI don't know who banned you. try coming back later09:59
kahrytani do10:08
Jucatokahrytan: then contact that op. if he/she isn't here, come back later.10:12
kahrytanAre you in irc council?10:12
Jucatono. why?10:13
kahrytanthen it doesnt solve my other question10:13
Jucatowhat other question?10:14
kahrytanWhy irc council is taking so long to respond to compliants 48hrs10:15
ubotuSlart called the ops in #ubuntu (Kheops)10:26
Mez!tell kheok about CoC10:30
Mez!tell kheok about guidelines10:30
JucatoMez: that's Kheops. I banned him in #kubuntu and I think he's also banned from ##linux10:30
Jucatojussi01: I finally got to do it :D10:30
MezJucato, I'm talking :D10:31
Jucatohe's been asking over and over again about NTFS, and will insult anyone who tries to help him if they can't (or if he doesn't consider their answers acceptable)10:31
Jucatothen he'll insult the channel and the community10:31
* Mez is talking to him in PM10:32
Jucatogood luck10:33
* Mez has placed a ban10:34
Mezhttp://rafb.net/p/mgFLSz60.html10:34
* Mez will brb10:35
jussi01Jucato: ok. he has been "quieted11:05
jussi01" in ##linux11:05
jussi01(stupid backspace too near enter...11:05
Jucato:P11:05
Jucato!find ntfs-3g11:06
ubotuFound: sh:11:06
jpatrickJucato: re Kheops: didn't I (or claydoh) just ban him from kubuntuforums?12:46
jpatrickblah, all these trolls sound the same12:48
Jucatojpatrick: oh I haven't noticed :)13:05
jussi01argh13:08
ubotudgjones called the ops in #ubuntu ()14:00
LjLstdin, don't ban from -unregged14:03
LjLneed to see what's going on14:03
MezLjL, I've removed the mutes14:03
LjLMez, why?14:03
Mezthey've flooded out ... 14:03
LjLthat doesn't prevent them from reconnecting, does it14:04
Mezand quit... so I doubt they'll reconnect from the same place14:04
LjLthey have.14:04
LjLthe channel being +r, though, they haven't quite reached it.14:04
Mezexactly ;)14:04
LjLstill, remove bans after a k-line, not before ;)14:04
Mezand was a mute, not a ban14:04
LjLto make it easier to k-line, yes14:05
* Mez shrugs - the mutes arent going to be used after now I presume ?14:05
LjLMez, depends on how long we want to stay +r14:06
LjLfor such a tiny attack as this14:06
MezLjL, :P14:06
MezI think that they just flooded themselves out and wont be back14:06
LjLCPE00022acb146d-CM0014f8c165ea.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com is online14:06
LjLand in #ubuntu14:07
Mez* ##linux n=sdd CPE00022acb146d-CM0014f8c165ea.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com irc.freenode.net sdd H :0 sdd14:07
LjL[15:07:28] *** LjL sets mode: +b *!*@CPE00022acb146d-CM0014f8c165ea.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com14:07
LjL[15:07:28] <-- sdd has left this channel (requested by LjL: "You should have known better, bye").14:07
LjLthis time i've made it a ban14:07
Meztis fine :D14:08
LjLbut the mute is useful because it lets staff know who's in the channel at a glance, and also to tab-complete easily14:08
Mezpoor ##linux14:08
Mez :P14:08
jpatrickLjL: not that same troll again?14:08
LjLjpatrick: the same as what?14:08
jpatricknever mind14:08
LjLand yes, they're still joining -unregged and flooding off in there14:08
LjL!staff14:08
ubotuHey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick, seanw, Dave2, Christel or Gary,  I could use a bit of your time :)14:08
LjLhave a look at CPE00022acb146d-CM0014f8c165ea.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com and ip82-139-92-228.lijbrandt.net in #ubuntu earlier, and now in #ubuntu-unregged14:09
Mez* Mmiin-kE (n=Kbfvn@078088118046.dzi.vectranet.pl) has joined #ubuntu-unregged14:10
Mez* Mmiin-kE has quit (Excess Flood)14:10
Mezthey're obviouolsy programmed to spam #ubuntu and not getting through14:10
LjLyes.14:10
LjLso we need to stay +r until this can be fixed by staff.14:10
LjLor they clearly stop.14:10
LjLstaff: updated list of offenders is 078088118046.dzi.vectranet.pl and CPE00022acb146d-CM0014f8c165ea.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com and ip82-139-92-228.lijbrandt.net - with masks matching ?????-??!?=?????@*14:14
Mezthe just got through in ##linux14:14
LjLand now c-71-234-101-55.hsd1.ct.comcast.net14:15
LjLMez: they're still doing it in #ubuntu - it's just that they're muted14:15
LjLi've removed the +r and muted their mask instead14:15
MezLjL, banforward offenders to #ubuntu-spambots ?14:16
Mezthen you can collect them in a room14:16
Mezwhy to ##unavailable ?14:18
LjLbecause it exists, to begin with14:18
* Mez shrugs14:18
LjLSeveas, ubotu is logging kicks in -unregged14:39
PiciDo we need ubotu in unregged?14:41
LjLPici, perhaps not, but i think he's always been there, and used to not log kick/bans14:43
LjL!no es is <reply> Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.14:54
ubotuI'll remember that LjL14:54
ubotusoundray called the ops in #ubuntu (ragazzo spamming)14:58
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jpatrickhi flipstar, how may we help you?15:58
flipstarhi, i want a cloak ..15:58
jpatrickunafflicated one? Set up your nick as per http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup and ask in #freenode15:59
flipstarokay..thanks :)15:59
jpatrickAndrewB: hmmm16:01
AndrewB?16:01
jpatricksee above ;)16:01
AndrewBahh16:01
PriceChildGrrr just realised what's killing my wireless signal up here.16:02
* PriceChild throws the cordless phones out of the window16:02
jdongPriceChild: they shouldn't interfere all that badly unless you have a trashy router16:05
PriceChildjdong: yeah, its a trashy router.16:05
PriceChildhuawei16:05
jdongPriceChild: if you want to try to find something that really interferes, try a microwave oven :)16:05
PriceChildAt first I thought it was just Ubuntu being silly and not pushing the card, but I turned those phones off and now all is good. *extremely* scientific and don't say otherwise.16:06
PriceChildI hate their website..16:10
jpatrickouch, some guy in #k just rm -rf'ed half his system...16:50
* Mez has done that before16:52
PriceChildsilly man16:53
MezWindows also managed to wipe a partition without me telling it to aswell (lost all my music and had to re-rip it - and also lost my signed GPG key when I was trying to become a MOTU - thanks to Riddell I got that sorted though)16:54
* jpatrick always backups up ~/.gnupg16:55
* Mez has a backup from a few years ago.16:58
MezIt hasnt changed much since then16:58
Mezall the sigs are on public servers anyways. so I just need the secret key :D and then grab the rest from a server16:59
Mezgpg:           new user IDs: 216:59
Mezgpg:         new signatures: 3116:59
Mezlike that ;)16:59
Mez*updates key on server)16:59
=== tsmithe` is now known as tsmithe
jpatrick"< ~Piero_Scaruffi> i installed Envy"17:37
* jpatrick headdesk17:38
jpatrickSeveas: could it be possible to get -offtopic ubotu goodies in #kubuntu-offtopic?18:26
Seveasjpatrick, sure18:26
Seveasjpatrick, who are the ops in there?18:27
jpatrickSeveas: me, nal, Riddell, jussi, and std!n18:27
Seveasjpatrick, get one of them to ack your request so they won't get angry at me18:28
jpatrickhmm, where did Tm_T go?18:28
jpatrickSeveas: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/61148/18:37
Seveasheh18:37
SeveasI'll make ubotu2 join #kubuntu-offtopic and use its annoyances18:38
Seveasshould work now18:41
jpatrickyep, does, thanks :)18:41
Seveas2008/03/26 19:41 MessResponder:1.186 fortune was called in #kubuntu-offtopic by jpatrick!n=jon@ubuntu/member/jpatrick with argument18:41
PriceChildompaul: a full ban needed?19:55
ompaulPriceChild, second dump19:55
ompaulI pmed him to come here to explain a paste bin19:56
ompaulhi Kadotus 19:56
Kadotushi.19:56
ompaulyou were given the following factoid 19:56
ompaul!paste19:56
ubotupastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)19:56
KadotusI really, really don't know how to use pastebin. :D19:56
ompaulclick on that page19:56
ompaulit is a web thing19:57
ompaulKadotus, it should explain itself19:57
KadotusWhat do I put for syntax?19:57
ompaulnothing19:57
ompaullet it go19:57
ompauljust dump your text there19:57
Kadotusand..?19:58
ompaulclick paste when you are done19:58
ompaulyou will get a new url that is what soundray wants in #ubuntu19:58
ompaultell me when you got it done19:58
ompauland give us the url19:58
Kadotusthis is the url: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/61152/19:59
ompaulKadotus, I will now remove your ban in #ubuntu19:59
ompauldone 19:59
ompaulKadotus, have a nice day 19:59
Kadotusompaul20:00
KadotusI really don't understand, what do I do with the output the pastebin gives me.20:00
ompaulyou give the url in the channel20:00
ompauland they people can read that20:00
ompaulyou don't ever put more than two lines of text in the channel ;-)20:01
KadotusOk. It was too simple. Sorry, really, but I didn't know.20:01
ompaulhehe20:01
ompaulno problem we all had to learn at one time (mind you I think I am still learning ;-))20:01
Kadotus:P20:01
ompaulnow you can head off from here have a good20:02
ompaulday20:02
Kadotusthank you.20:02
ompaulPriceChild, so what do you reckon? ;-)20:02
LjLi have a feeling the "messages sent while muted" count in the floodbot is not entirely right20:23
LjL*shrug*20:24
ompaulLjL, I know this to be true20:24
ompaul;-0p20:24
ompaulwoops20:24
ompaul:-020:24
jpatrickSeveas: I have just kicked ubuntu2776 from #k-of20:26
jpatrick#k-ot*20:26
Seveasjpatrick, reason being?20:26
jpatricktrolling, swearing20:26
Seveask, not so much of that in #u-ot as far as I see20:27
jpatrickjust a heads up20:27
Seveastx :)20:27
jpatrickLjL: there?21:03
LjLjpatrick: yes21:06
jpatrickLjL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/61166/21:06
kageshisihello everyone21:06
LjLkageshisi: please change your ident to join #ubuntu21:07
LjL!language21:07
ubotuPlease watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.21:07
kageshisihow do i change that? using opera21:07
LjLjpatrick: that was pretty much out of the blue, right?21:08
jpatrickLjL: yeah..21:08
LjLkageshisi, well, i don't know as i haven't used Opera recently, but its default ident is certainly not "fuck", so you must have known how to set it, at some stage :)21:08
LjLnalioth, please have a look at jpatrick's pastebin about "pleaseandthankyo". there is a similar occurrence in ##linux (the only one of the many channels he's in):21:09
LjL[22:07:44] <pleaseandthankyo>  why don't you kill people who are on good situations than people who are on bad? i know i have21:10
jpatrickand #defocus right now21:10
stdinand ##c++21:10
LjLi meant, "the only one of the many channels he's in that i'm also in"21:10
LjLthough actually no, i'm in #gentoo too, and there as well: [22:08:05] <pleaseandthankyo>  why don't you kill people who are on good situations than people who are on bad? i know i have21:11
jpatrickhmm, K:line-age21:12
stdink-lined :)21:12
MrUnagiis ljl around?21:37
LjLuhm, no21:37
* LjL hides21:37
MrUnagii was wondering perhaps if my bans could be lifted today?21:38
LjLwell no, i'm afraid that will have to wait. you behaved way too boldly i'm afraid.21:39
* popey pokes Seveas 21:39
popeySeveas: why does mootbot run in CEST? Should it not run at UTC?21:39
ompaulpopey, where does Seveas live?21:40
* ompaul says nothing 21:40
ompaul;-)21:40
popeyirrelavent21:40
LjLwell it should still run UTC21:40
popeyubuntu meetings are always scheduled and publicised in UTC21:40
popey21:22:14 < MootBot> Meeting finished at 22:22.21:40
popey^ that just looks wrong21:40
popeySeveas != server21:40
ompaulI know your point - I just never thought of it in any other light21:41
LjLprobably the code is bugged :) it should force UTC instead of using the system's locale21:41
PriceChildpopey: sev doesn't run mootbot?21:41
PriceChilddoes he?21:41
LjLPriceChild, he might... the old host is no more21:41
ompaulohh21:41
ompaulMrUnagi, is there anything else?21:41
jpatrickPriceChild: http://blackbird.kaarsemaker.net/mootbot/21:41
popeyhttp://blackbird.kaarsemaker.net/mootbot/meeting/ubuntu-uk.20080326_2131.html is the logs and that name looks like it could be his21:41
PriceChildI stand corrected.21:42
MrUnagiljl how long should i wait21:42
MrUnagiits been quite some time now21:42
LjLMrUnagi, we had a conversation on 3 march where i thought we had come to reasonable terms, then when i said that the ban wouldn't be lifted, you went mad in all sorts of ways.21:43
LjLi don't think the ban will be lifted before a couple of months21:44
MrUnagii was mad in all sorts of ways because i was accused of ban evading, and then mocked when explaining the situation21:44
LjLno21:44
LjL[Mon Mar 3 2008] [19:14:00] <LjL>       unagi: yes, the ban stays for some time regardless of what we say here, at this point.21:45
LjL*after* this.21:45
MrUnagii had returned in 2 days as requested when it was said that i had ban evaded in those 2 days21:45
LjLMrUnagi, the logs are, like, full of you, since late 2007 or possibly earlier. i'm sure you know about the proverbial last straw. the fact that you insulted me, went to #freenode to make a scene, and who knows what else, after - following a reasonable conversation - you were told that your ban "wouldn't be lifted for some time no matter what we'd say here" means, i'm afraid, that we're really out of straws.21:47
MrUnagiif i hadnt been falsely accused of ban evading and THEN mocked when explaining the situation, i wouldnt have lost my temper21:48
MrUnagiso i suppose what i am suggesting is that perhaps we could come to some sort of agreement that it has been quite a while already of my being banned21:49
LjLyou had lost your temper earlier, you regained it while we were discussing on 3 march, then you definitely lost it again when i stated that your ban would stay for some time anyway.21:49
PriceChildI think we provided evidence to the ban evading iirc.21:49
LjLPriceChild, nevermind the ban evading, seriously.21:49
MrUnagithere was no evidence provided of ban evading in the 2 day mark21:49
PriceChildk k21:49
MrUnagii had returned as requested after 2 days....this is when i was told i had ban evaded, this is when i was mocked21:50
LjLMrUnagi, there is evidence, it has been provided, and anyway that's irrelevant, because you were abusive in such a way that we cannot reasonably allow you back into the channels.21:50
MrUnagii have not been abusive to anyone in those channels, my outrages came after i had been wronged on more than one occasion21:50
LjLMrUnagi, you've been abusive enough to get yourself banned several times *in those channels*, and then you've been WAY MORE than abusive in other places.21:51
LjLwe cannot, and won't, disregard that.21:51
LjLplease stop insisting, and come back in about a year if you wish.21:51
MrUnagimy bans were not based on abuse they were based on misunderstood codes of conduct21:51
MrUnagithe bans thereafter occured because you laughed at me and banne dme from this channel when explaining that i did not ban evade21:51
PriceChildWhy bring the CoC into this?21:52
LjLno. you're talking about before 3 march. i'm talking about after.21:52
LjL[Wed Mar 5 2008] [18:50:02] <mrunagi>   i didnt fucknig ban evande you piece of shit jackass21:52
LjL[Wed Mar 5 2008] [18:50:29] <mrunagi>   maybe if you were a good fucking op you would actually listen to people you piece of shit21:52
LjLthis, for instance, is after.21:52
LjLplease, stop wasting your time now.21:52
MrUnagiafter iw as wronged you are correct21:52
MrUnagiafter you falsely accused me of ban evading, laughing and mocking me when i tried to explain21:52
MrUnagiyou are 100% correct21:52
LjLi've explained that we had talked reasonably on 3 march, and *you* went out of your way when i said (reasonably) that i'd have to wait before lifting the ban, no matter how reasonably we were talking at the time.21:53
LjLbut i think i'm going around in circles now, because it's - i think - the third time i say this.21:53
MrUnagithere was no reasonable talking between you and i21:53
MrUnagii came in here talking reasonable after the 2 days as allotted21:54
MrUnagiyou then told me the ban would not be lifted because i ban evaded21:54
MrUnagiif you do not allow people to talk reasonably then how can you expect people to talk resonably21:54
MrUnagihow long of a ban satisfies your misjudgement on my ban evading21:55
LjLmake it two years.21:55
MrUnagiyou have to be kidding me21:55
LjLfour years?21:56
Seveasmake it an even five21:56
LjLMrUnagi, you weren't here when i said this:21:56
LjL[Mon Mar 3 2008] [19:27:10] <LjL>       i think unagi should be unbanned if he comes back asking nicely enough.21:56
LjL[Mon Mar 3 2008] [19:27:46] <LjL>       he got relatively reasonable.21:56
LjLunfortunately, you missed *that* boat, by behaving like a complete idiot.21:56
LjLEOD21:56
ompaulSeveas, oddly enough 21:57
MrUnagiim banned for 4 years because you laughed at me and mocked me when i tried to explain that your accusation of my ban evading is incorrect?21:57
MrUnagii came in asking nicely after the 2 days that you alotted to my ban when you accused me of ban evading21:57
MrUnagihow many wrongs do you expect a man to endure before he loses his temper21:57
* PriceChild sighs21:58
ompaulif he is a man he should not loose it21:58
ubotujpatrick called the ops in #ubuntu (Skinhed)21:59
MrUnagiso seriously........4 years because you were incorrect in your judgement initially?21:59
Seveaswhy isn't jpatrick op in #ubuntu? :) 22:00
jpatrickSeveas: I think the council is voting or something..22:00
Seveasjpatrick, ah22:00
Seveasthey should vote faster :)22:00
jpatrickand *damn* AfterDeath has a massive away message in his away_hilight_notice.pl22:01
Seveasjpatrick, paste in pm :)22:01
LjLMrUnagi: *sigh* i was not incorrect. you *admitted* the ban evader was you. now go away.22:01
MrUnagii NEVER said that i ban evaded22:01
MrUnagiand you cannot prove otherwise22:01
jpatrickSeveas: ok, not that big, it just looked huge in small terminal box22:02
Seveasheh22:02
MrUnagii have always maintained that this is a business connection....and that i personally never was on irc in those 2 days22:02
Seveaswhat did it highlight on?22:02
MrUnagiis that or is that not in the logs22:02
Seveason the !o.ps?22:02
jpatrickyeah22:02
Seveasgonna kick him for that22:02
LjLPriceChild, do you happen to have the evidence handy?22:02
jpatrickSeveas: I've even stopped hilight-ing !o.ps because of the script22:03
Seveasmrt 07 23:56:41 <mrunagi__>nalioth: i understand that i evaded the ban on the kline im not denying that22:04
MrUnagithat would be after the fact22:04
LjLthank you Seveas, that's one, although i was thinking of a couple of others22:04
Seveasyeah, was just a quick'n'dirty grep22:04
MrUnagithis is exactly my point you cannot follow what i am saying22:04
MrUnagilook for the day 2 days after you said i was banned for 2 days22:05
MrUnagithe day you mocked and ridiculed me22:05
LjLMrUnagi, that's because you've been trolling for so long, with so many nicknames, that our logs are stuffed with your trolling.22:05
MrUnagiwhat nicks....22:05
MrUnagiwaynrdude? camserver? evo?22:05
MrUnaginicks that arent mine?22:05
LjLyes, thank you!22:05
MrUnagithats exactly my point22:06
MrUnagito this day you still think that i ban evaded22:06
Seveass/think/know/22:06
MrUnagithis is a business connection....22:06
MrUnagii have said this before22:06
LjLMrUnagi: one moment, please.22:06
MrUnagithere are other employees here that use irc to find answers22:06
LjL#kubuntu: [Wed Mar 5 2008] [01:29:20] <mrunagi>   <----------camserver22:06
MrUnagii understand.......that was mentioned before22:06
MrUnagimy mistake was allowing my laptop to be open and used22:07
MrUnagii have tried to explain that22:07
jpatrickMrUnagi: hmm, kde comes with good screen locking stuff22:08
SeveasMrUnagi, that's standard troll excuse #722:08
MrUnagilook i understand after the 5th i made alot of mistakes all i am asking is that it be understood that march 3 4 and 5 i was never on irc....it is one big misunderstanding22:08
Seveasand we don't buy it22:08
LjLnalioth, "skinhed" gave his poetry in #gentoo as well as #ubuntu22:08
LjLMrUnagi, i don't believe a word of what you say, especially since you have *said* camserver was you.22:08
MrUnagijust because you dont buy it doesnt make it not true.....22:08
LjLMrUnagi, let's see if we have a deal22:08
SeveasMrUnagi, and iirc you said earlier they used different pcs22:09
LjLthe deal is, you will be unbanned in 8 years.22:09
LjLok?22:09
MrUnagiplease be resonable22:09
LjLno, we've had enough.22:09
Seveasnow we wait for this one22:09
Seveasmrt 05 19:40:18 -->mrunagi_ (n=mrunagi@68-243-10-229.area7.spcsdns.net) has joined #ubuntu-ops22:10
LjLSeveas: and hawaiiantel, and......22:10
ompaulohh now there is interesting22:10
LjLompaul: NO, it's not who you think it is :)22:10
ompaulspell the letter k22:10
ompaulLjL, ok 22:10
Seveashello azexian what can we do for you22:10
ompaulazexian, how can we help you?22:11
azexianyou can't, keep up the good work =)22:11
LjLerr, right.22:11
jpatrick..22:11
ompaul\?22:11
LjLJberg88, how can i help you?22:12
LjL[23:11:38] <MrUnagi> can you please explain to me why i am being treated so poorly please22:12
LjL[23:11:51] <LjL> i have. i will not reply to your messages further.22:12
naliothLjL: yep22:12
Seeker`LjL: Looks fair enough22:12
Jberg88well I think i need to get a test but i know it will crash22:12
SeveasJberg88, then fix it first :)22:12
Jberg88I tried many times last night22:13
LjLJberg88, what client are you using?22:13
Seeker`Jberg88: What port are you connected on?22:13
Jberg88I am on a Mac using colloquy22:13
Jberg88port 800122:13
LjLJberg88, ah you're the colloquy guy?22:14
Jberg88yes yes I am22:14
LjLJberg88: well i've never used that client, and i can't try it out either22:14
Jberg88its ok 22:14
LjLJberg88: i can only tell you that *every* exploit victim we've seen has fixed it by connecting to 8001, so i think your client must be ignoring the port setting, or something22:14
LjLJberg88: open up a terminal please22:14
Jberg88its oken22:15
Jberg88open22:15
LjLJberg88: now, let's just hope this is the correct syntax on a Mac too... type « sudo netstat -p | grep irc »22:15
ompaulLjL, a bash shell can be installed 22:16
ompauldont think it needs sudo22:16
ompaulnalioth, got any ideas here?22:16
Jberg88LjL: mac has 90% of the same as ubuntu22:16
naliothtry xchat-aqua22:17
Jberg88What now22:17
Jberg88nalioth: I am picky I will try a little more before using it 22:17
LjLJberg88: well, what does that command say?22:18
Jberg88netstat: option requires an argument -- p22:18
Jberg88and it gives me options on usage22:18
LjLJberg88: try without the -p22:18
Jberg88nothing happened22:19
LjLJberg88: try « sudo netstat | grep freenode » then22:19
Jberg88tcp4       0      0  bcvpn45.bc.edu.49544   kubrick.freenode.vcom- ESTABLISHED22:19
ompaulreply path ...22:20
Jberg88ompaul: huh?22:20
LjLJberg88: argh, that doesn't show the port >:22:20
Seveasnetstat -n will22:21
Seveasnetstat -n | grep 64.161.254.2022:21
LjLSeveas: it's more like that the column gets cut... but yeah i suppose the IP + numeric port will fit22:21
Jberg88tcp4       0      0  136.167.17.45.49544    64.161.254.20.8001     ESTABLISHED22:21
LjLJberg88: so it seems that you're actually connected to the right port22:22
ompaulJberg88, so your client should be ok and your router not trouble yuou22:22
LjLJberg88: mind if i test you now?22:22
ompaulLjL, test him please 22:22
Jberg88please test me22:22
Picisomeone should test him22:22
LjLuhm22:22
Seveasprobably colloqui is broken22:22
LjLhe quit 7 seconds after i tested him22:22
LjLJberg88, you quit 7 seconds after i tested you22:23
ompaulonce more there LjL 22:23
PiciCould be a overzealous router closing the connecting22:23
LjLthat's not typical of the exploit that we know22:23
Jberg88failed22:23
LjLPici, not on 8001 really22:23
LjLPici: and not after 7 seconds22:23
SeveasLjL, must have been the test that was sent as last?22:23
ompaul8001 should be robust22:23
PiciLjL: hence the overzealousness22:23
LjLCTCP PING is 1 second22:23
SeveasLjL, it does send several variants, right?22:23
LjLSeveas, PM22:23
Jberg88LjL so can i go into ubuntu now?22:23
Jberg88apparently not22:24
LjLJberg88, no, because you failed the test... however we need to investigate this22:24
LjLthis time he quit after 5 seconds22:24
SeveasJberg88, could you try another IRC client?22:25
LjLJberg88, i really would be glad if you could try connecting using another client, such as xchat-aqua that nalioth mentioned, or something else available for Mac22:25
Jberg88ok deleting this crap22:25
Jberg88download x-chat22:25
LjLJberg88: actually, could you just try something quick and dirty for me, please?22:26
LjLJberg88: type « telnet irc.freenode.net 8001 » in a shell22:26
LjLJberg88: then type (you need to do this a bit quickly)22:26
LjL1) USER jberg jberg jberg jberg22:26
Jberg88in a shell?????22:26
LjL2) NICK jberg88--22:26
LjL3) JOIN #ubuntu-ops22:27
LjLyes, in a console, terminal22:27
Jberg88oh ok 22:27
LjLwithout the 1) 2) 3), mind!22:28
Jberg88yeah I know22:28
Jberg88keeps closing the connection 22:29
Jberg88hold on22:29
Seveasthen you're not fast enough ;)22:29
LjLJberg88, you need to type that fairly quickly, no more than 15 seconds or so22:29
Jberg88ok22:29
LjLcopy and paste perhaps22:29
Jberg88Yeah 22:29
Jberg88woooooooooooooooow22:30
Jberg88hahah 22:30
Seveashah22:30
LjLJberg88, i've just tested Jberg88--, and it's not vulnerable. so it must be your client's fault...22:31
Jberg88oh cool22:31
Jberg88that's cool22:31
Seveasyup, tested it as well22:31
Seveas!exploit22:31
ubotuThere are people around who think it is funny to abuse a bug in certain routers by sending invalid DCC commands. When bitten by this bug ops in #ubuntu remove users so they are no longer targets. To fix it have a look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixDCCExploit22:31
Seveasadding to that page22:31
Jberg88adding what?>22:32
Jberg88well I tried that link before22:32
Jberg88removing this Client 22:32
Jberg88thanks guys22:32
LjLargh22:33
marko-_-when i wanna join #ubuntu22:33
marko-_-i can't22:33
marko-_--ChanServ- [##unavailable] You've tried to join an unavailable channel.22:33
marko-_-i get this, why ?22:33
LjLmarko-_-: i'll fix this immediately.22:33
marko-_-ok22:33
marko-_-but could you tell what happened ? i'm currious22:33
LjLmarko-_-: you happen to have a nickname and ident pattern that was banned today, due to being abused by spammers22:34
LjLmarko-_-: you can join now22:34
marko-_-ok22:34
marko-_-thaNks22:34
marko-_-thanks*22:34
LjLjberg88_, it's honestly not clear to me how one reports bugs for Colloquy, although it must be something here: http://colloquy.info/project - you may want to join #colloquy on this network and investigate22:36
LjLjberg88_: are you on another client now, and on port 8001?22:36
Jberg88_no22:37
Jberg88_trying to get my password22:37
Jberg88_I forgot it22:37
Jberg88_:P 22:37
LjLJberg88_, if you've given an email address when you registered, then you can ask for a new password to be sent to it, if you really can't remember it22:38
Seveasthe thing has blocker bugs from 2005, I assume that development is slow22:38
LjLoh.22:40
Seveasneed to register before you can submit a bug22:41
Seveascan't be arsed22:41
Jberg88hey 22:43
Seveasheya22:43
Jberg88using X-Chat 22:43
Seveasconnected to port 8001?22:43
Jberg88yeah22:43
Seveastry the 'test me' in #ubuntu-read-topic22:44
Jberg88can you see what i got?22:45
Seveasyeah, you passed :)22:45
Jberg88sweet I am in now!22:45
Seveaswelcome back to #ubuntu :)22:45
Jberg88thank YOU!22:45
LjLthank you for pointing out this broken client to us ;)22:45
Jberg88now to set my password -.-22:45
Jberg88LjL: my pleasure22:45
LjLJberg88: you don't quite remember it, or can manage to get it from colloquy?22:46
Jberg88I got it from colloquy22:46
Jberg88but when i enter it it says wrong password22:46
LjLJberg88: when you enter it where? try simply typing « /msg nickserv identify yourpassword » (in a non-channel window!)22:47
Jberg88I don't know how to open a non channel window here22:48
LjLJberg88: well then type it in the channel, just make sure you put no spaces before the /, or we see the password22:48
Jberg88yeah password is incorrect22:49
LjLJberg88: well, did you set an email address when you registered? if you didn't, you won't have much luck i'm afraid22:50
Jberg88I did set an email22:50
ompaulnight all22:51
LjLJberg88: then join #freenode and ask to have your password reset22:51
LjLompaul, learn to ban >:22:53
Jberg88hey guys how do I make xchat open these channels as I log in22:53
LjLJberg88: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XChatHowto - "Settings for network"22:54
Jberg88thanks you've helped me a lot today THANKS!!!22:55
mneptokJberg88: ca va?23:03
Jberg88oui 23:03
mneptokJberg88: pas de problemes au jour d'hui, ou ...?23:04
Jberg88J'utilise x-chat maitenant 23:04
Jberg88colostupid had a bug23:04
mneptokd'accord. il travail hokay?23:05
Jberg88tres bien 23:05
mneptokparfait23:05
Jberg88J'aime x-chat plus que colostupid23:05
mneptokoui, c'est une meillieur client23:07
Jberg88j'suis daccord 23:07

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