[00:00] <ubotu> In ubotu, zoredache said: !lowmemory is <reply> For installing on low memory systems, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems.  See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements.
[00:00] <ubotu> In ubotu, zoredache said: !lowmem is <alias> lowmemory
[00:01] <ompaul> !lowmemory is <reply> For installing on low memory systems, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems.  See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements.
[00:01] <ubotu> I'll remember that, ompaul
[00:01] <ompaul> !lowmem is <alias> lowmemory
[00:02] <ompaul> hmm
[00:02] <ompaul> !lowmem 
[00:02] <ubotu> For installing on low memory systems, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems.  See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements.
[00:02] <ompaul> zoredache, that's a good one - wonder how often it will be called though
[00:02] <zoredache> it almost seems to long... but questions about low-memory installs are asked frequently on xubuntu
[00:03] <zoredache> I figure I will use it about 3-4 times a day
[00:03] <ompaul> zoredache, I used to think that one line was too long 
[00:03] <ompaul> but we don't have url.ubuntu.com to make stuff short
[00:03]  * ompaul notes that 
[00:03] <ompaul> mneptok, ^^ that is a good idea ;-)
[00:04] <ompaul> url.ubuntu.com for tinyurls for ubuntu
[00:04]  * nikrud pats ompaul on the back
[00:04] <elky_work> if it could be limited to ubuntu domain urls, sure
[00:04] <ompaul> it could 
[00:04] <elky_work> otherwise, it'll be misused for links to pr0n :(
[00:04] <mneptok> ompaul: somewhere, right now, elmo got the shivers.
[00:05] <ompaul> mneptok, and he will more than shiver when I say it to him face to face
[00:05] <ompaul> :)
[00:05] <ompaul> hahaha
[00:05] <elky_work> mneptok, i have elmo's number in my phone, shall i ring him up and tell him you like the idea?
[00:05] <ompaul> elky_work, careful now - elmo having shivers or the tinyurl ?
[00:06] <mneptok> elky_work: go for it. he doesn't care what i think. he *does* care whose fingers just dialed him at midnight.
[00:07] <elky_work> ompaul, well, once i tell him about the tinyurl and how mneptok likes it, he'll shiver, and then i'll tell him mneptok likes the thought of him shivering
[00:07]  * ompaul Reductio ad absurdum
[00:07] <elky_work> mneptok, i didnt say i was going to do it now
[00:08] <ompaul> 6.10 goes out on October 26, 2006
[00:10] <elky_work> o.O
[00:10] <elky_work> are you providing the time-machine?
[00:13] <ompaul> damn
[00:14] <ompaul> Friday April 25th, 2008 << eol
[00:14] <ompaul> and here is my stupid comment fwiw -- that is too short a time gap between release of hardy and it 
[00:15] <ompaul> in a production env I need to migrate to something and need time to do so
[00:15] <mneptok> you had time
[00:15] <mneptok> you could have upgraded to 7.04 or 7.10
[00:15] <elky_work> mneptok, lts>lts?
[00:16] <mneptok> or stayed with Dapper.
[00:16] <ompaul> mneptok, stayed ;-)
[00:16] <mneptok> 6.10 != LTS
[00:16] <ompaul> ahh
[00:16] <elky_work> oh, right, im misreading
[00:16] <ompaul> woops
[00:16] <ompaul> so am I
[00:16]  * ompaul desk heads
[00:16] <elky_work> this is what happens when you IRC from work :P
[00:16] <mneptok> i love truth in advertising
[00:17] <mneptok>  20:13          ompaul + and here is my stupid comment fwiw
[00:17] <mneptok> :P
[00:17] <elky_work> lol
[00:17] <ompaul> gegegege
[00:17] <ompaul> hahahaah
[00:17] <mneptok> swallow the beer before laughing
[00:17] <ompaul> right it is midnight 17 and I will use that as my excuse
[00:19] <ompaul> backing up my brother in laws pc before it gets the "restore" to first version treatment
[00:21] <ompaul> right backup done 
[00:22] <ompaul> been about 3 hours to do it over the wire with a live CD 
[00:22] <ompaul> so now I can power it all off and sort it tomorrow 
[00:42] <Hobbsee> mmm...lots of green
[00:46] <Hobbsee> LjL: i'm sorry , i don't see you as a liar.  I'm seeing you as someone who went and got proof about the allegations, which is far better than accusing without proof, and is in fact, the ubuntu way of doing things.
[00:46] <Hobbsee> LjL: as it is, i'd suggest circulating this logs around other channels that she's known to visit, so the chanops there can make their own decisions (like -women, for eg)
[00:48] <elky_work> Hobbsee,  pleia2 is here anyway
[00:51] <Hobbsee> elky_work: ahh, useful.
[00:53] <pleia2> yes, I've kept up on this whole thing :)
[00:53] <tonyyarusso> good
[00:53] <Hobbsee> excellent
[01:14]  * mneptok noogies pleia2 
[01:38] <tritium> I'm not so sure the topic change was required.
[01:41] <Hobbsee> tritium: why?
[01:42] <tritium> Hobbsee: for the same reasons LjL didn't like it
[01:49] <MrUnagi> i noticed that the ban on the connection at my work was lifted.......i wasnt sure if that was a mistake or not
[01:50]  * tritium just noticed that emma is opped up in ##ubuntu-ops
[01:50] <elky_work> wtf
[01:50] <nikrud> oh, I like the name of that channel
[01:50] <tritium> No kidding
[01:50] <tonyyarusso> MrUnagi: what's the work hostname?
[01:50] <tonyyarusso> @btlogin
[01:51] <MrUnagi> im not sure but my dad was just on it under waynrdude and either evo or sle
[01:52] <tonyyarusso> MrUnagi: Tennessee?
[01:52] <MrUnagi> yes
[01:52] <tonyyarusso> 'k
[01:52] <MrUnagi> is it a mistake?
[01:53] <elky_work> give him time to look
[01:53] <MrUnagi> im sorry
[01:53] <MrUnagi> lol im not educated in the ways of irc opping :D
[01:54] <elky_work> MrUnagi, he's checking the records we keep for each other's sanity, but the records system runs on sqlite which is um... well.. not really suitible.
[01:54] <MrUnagi> slow?
[01:54] <elky_work> as a snail
[01:54] <MrUnagi> thats no good lol
[01:54] <MrUnagi> what exactly does sql stand for
[01:54] <elky_work> standard query language iirc
[01:55] <nikrud> structured query language
[01:55] <elky_work> aha
[01:55]  * nikrud goes off to check his memoyr
[01:55] <tonyyarusso> MrUnagi: Okay, looks like I've found the relevant portions, parsing the comments and logs attached.
[01:55] <MrUnagi> okies
[01:56] <elky_work> nikrud, i think you're right
[01:56] <nikrud> acronyms often defeat me, but I got this one right
[01:58] <tonyyarusso> MrUnagi: erm, it appears you've actually had quite a few - which channel(s) were you referring to?
[01:58] <[agatha]> you should watch out with aoupi in offtopic 
[01:58] <[agatha]> he's being waaaaaaaaay rude 
[01:58] <[agatha]> thanks 
[01:58] <tonyyarusso> Any Spanish speakers able to follow up on that?
[01:59] <tritium> I'll check
[01:59] <mneptok> momento
[01:59] <tritium> As much as I hate #ubuntu-offtopic...
[01:59] <nikrud> agatha seems to have handled it herself
[02:00] <tonyyarusso> MrUnagi: it appears to be configured in such a way that your family can get in, but not you.  Could you confirm or deny that?
[02:02] <Mr_Unagi> im sorry i lost connection
[02:02] <Mr_Unagi> i am now on my home connection
[02:02] <tonyyarusso> Mr_Unagi: it appears to be configured in such a way that your family can get in, but not you.  Could you confirm or deny that?
[02:03] <Mr_Unagi> not at the moment i couldnt, because i am no longer there.....i had not tried to connect with my laptop
[02:03] <Mr_Unagi> brg
[02:03] <Mr_Unagi> brb
[02:05]  * tritium is quickly reminded why he hates #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:05] <elky_work> heh
[02:05] <nikrud> it's good for you tritium
[02:06] <tritium> nikrud: no, really, I don't think so
[02:06] <nikrud> it's always good to touch base with inanity, gives a reference point
[02:06] <tritium> nikrud: ;)
[02:15] <mneptok> HI NIKRUD!
[02:15] <mneptok> i see you used the "summon mneptok" phrase
[02:15] <mneptok> ("touch base with inanity")
[02:15] <nikrud> mneptok lol, you do that too then
[02:16] <mneptok> nikrud: every time i begin to believe you guys and start thinking i'm one of the stranger people on IRC, -offtopic soon cures me of such delusions.
[02:16] <nikrud> mneptok don't be delusional ;)
[02:17] <mneptok> yeah, i can act really, REALLY weird. but the pivotal word is "act."
[02:17] <mneptok> thse other people are *drop dead serious*
[02:17] <mneptok> which is both hysterically funny, and about the most depressing thing i can think of.
[02:17] <mneptok> like a Nazi dressed like a bunny.
[02:17] <nikrud> heh. Likewise, I'm notorious for it. One upmanship is a nice game in small doses
[02:18] <nikrud> what's really fun is throwing in a profundity now and then (I have to crib those)
[02:19] <tritium> I've had my share for the evening.
[02:19] <nikrud> good night tritium 
[02:19] <tritium> nikrud: oh, I just meant I was /parting #ubuntu-offtopic ;)
[02:20] <nikrud> you still watching that? My god, go read some voltaire, or something, get it out of your system
[02:21] <tritium> I think I will :)
[02:21] <tritium> Good night.
[02:30] <Mr_Unagi> is there any indication when the bans will lifted for me? or was the decision just randomly made to lift it for my works connection
[03:21] <nikrud> could someone remove the redundant gutsysources is at the beginning from !gutsysources?
[03:25] <Jberg88> can someone help me with this test thing I can
[03:25] <Jberg88> i can't get understand what's going one?
[03:32] <mneptok> Jberg88: you got a warning about being vulnerable to an attack?
[03:33] <Jberg88> me no way 
[03:33] <Jberg88> How do I fix this?
[03:33] <mneptok> fix what?
[03:33] <elky_work> you didnt get a warning, or you think you're not vulnerable?
[03:34] <Jberg88> I don't think I am vulnerable at all
[03:34] <elky_work> mneptok, care to do a manual test?
[03:34] <nalioth> Jberg88: if you fall offline, please rejoin #ubuntu-read-topic when you return
[03:34] <elky_work> nope, not at all
[03:34] <nalioth> ok, then
[03:34]  * mneptok 1 | clueless newb 0
[03:35] <elky_work> Jberg88, you *are* vulnerable
[03:35] <Jberg88> damn it 
[03:35] <mneptok> Jberg88: welcome back. shall i cause you to be disconnected again? or would *you* rather control your own computer? ;)
[03:35] <elky_work> Jberg88, please read the actual topic of  #ubuntu-read-topic this time
[03:36] <Jberg88> I did
[03:36] <elky_work> Jberg88, and of course you obeyed the instructions there?
[03:36] <Jberg88> not thoroughly  :O 
[03:36] <elky_work> Jberg88, so, you've not changed your port to 8001 instead of 6667?
[03:37] <elky_work> that's all you need to do to avoid snotty little brats making you disconnect from irc
[03:37] <Jberg88> ok thank you
[03:37] <mneptok> hey now. i've started wiping my nose.
[03:37] <elky_work> heh
[03:38] <elky_work> you will need to restart your client after making the change
[03:38] <mneptok> Jberg88: connectez-vous a porte 8001, re-/join cette canal, et je vous teste encore.
[03:38] <Jberg88> merci
[03:38] <mneptok> de rien
[03:38] <Jberg88> how did you know i spoke french?
[03:39] <mneptok>  23:31  -[%]- the whois of Jberg88 -[%]- 
[03:39] <mneptok>  23:31   host     : n=Jberg88@bcvpn33.bc.edu 
[03:39] <mneptok>  23:31   ircname  : Ergy Jean-Baptiste
[03:39] <mneptok>  23:31  -[%]- the whois of Jberg88 -[%]- 
[03:39] <mneptok>  23:31   host     : n=Jberg88@bcvpn33.bc.edu 
[03:39] <mneptok>  23:31   ircname  : Ergy Jean-Baptiste
[03:39] <mneptok> J-B est une prenom *Francais*
[03:40] <mneptok> etes-vouse pretes?
[03:40] <mneptok> -e
[03:40] <Jberg88> :O 
[03:40] <Jberg88> oui 
[03:40] <mneptok> :/
[03:40] <mneptok> test failed (obviously)
[03:41] <elky_work> Jberg88, what client are you using?
[03:41] <Jberg88> yeah 
[03:41] <Jberg88> I am on the recommended ports though
[03:41] <mneptok> Jberg88: set your client to use port 8001 for Freenode, then quit and restart the IRC client
[03:41] <Jberg88> ok trying it again
[03:41] <mneptok> elky_work: Colloquy (OSX)
[03:41] <Jberg88> that's creepy
[03:42] <mneptok> Jberg88: you have no idea how creepy i am.
[03:42] <mneptok> Jberg88: want to be *really* scared? i'm an American ... who has chosen to live in Quebec.
[03:42] <mneptok> creepy enough? ;)
[03:42]  * nickrud doesn't believe a word about mneptok being american
[03:43] <Jberg88> lol
[03:43] <elky_work> nickrud, he does not in any way sound canadian...
[03:43] <nickrud> nope. Not nearly scary enough
[03:43] <mneptok> Jberg88: quand vouse etes pretes ...
[03:43] <mneptok> -e
[03:44] <Jberg88> I don't think it's going to work but I am not seeing why its not working 
[03:45] <Jberg88> I am on the correct port on irc.freenode.net
[03:45] <Jberg88> going to quit and restart
[03:46]  * nickrud thinks mneptok tries to live up to his last name, just as I do
[03:46] <Jberg88> back
[03:46] <mneptok> Jberg88: encore plus?
[03:47] <Jberg88> pelase 
[03:47] <Jberg88> please
[03:47]  * mneptok waits
[03:47] <mneptok> :/
[03:47] <elky_work> Jberg88, you are fully closing the whole entire irc client, as in, quitting colloquy completely so it is not running at all, right?
[03:47]  * mneptok goes to remind himself of the name of the other good freeware OSX IRC client
[03:48] <elky_work> mneptok, xchat? :P
[03:48] <Jberg88> aaaaaaaaaahhhh!!
[03:48] <Jberg88> elky_work: yeah 
[03:49] <Jberg88> I have ubuntu on parallels on my computer but I dont use it much 
[03:49] <mneptok> elky_work: not updated in 2 years
[03:49] <mneptok> Jberg88: http://www.cs.umu.se/~nilsh/MacIrssi-0.8.2.dmg
[03:50]  * mneptok > Metro > ma maison
[03:50] <mneptok> a toute a l'heure, Jberg88. bon chance.
[03:52] <Jberg88> mneptok: that program fails
[03:53] <elky_work> Jberg88, sounds like you need a better OS :P
[03:53] <Jberg88> doesn't even run 
[03:53] <Jberg88> brb
[03:56] <Jberg88> this is really annoying 
[04:03] <Jberg88> anyone?
[04:04] <Jberg88> test me
[04:04] <Jberg88> ooops
[04:08] <Jberg88> ugh
[04:09] <nalioth> Jberg88: try xchat aqua
[04:09] <Jberg88> alright
[04:46] <nickrud> !automatix
[04:46] <ubotu> Automatix is no longer developed or supported by its creators and is not recommended, supported or needed by Ubuntu. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[04:46] <nalioth> HERETIC!
[04:46] <nalioth> oh
[04:47] <tritium> nalioth: are you still involved with easyubuntu?
[04:47] <nickrud> nah, just wanted to make sure it had the new info about not being developed
[04:47] <nickrud> saw envy being discussed and it brought it to mind
[04:48] <Mr_Unagi> what was automatix
[04:49] <nickrud> Mr_Unagi check the link
[04:49] <mneptok> "a bad idea"
[04:49] <Mr_Unagi> just did =)
[04:49] <Mr_Unagi> much easier this way lol
[04:49] <nalioth> tritium: easyubuntu went obsolete with edgy
[04:49] <tritium> nalioth: ah, really?
[04:50] <nalioth> tritium: one click installs were introduced with edgy
[04:50] <nalioth> automatix was carried on for this long as an ego-boost for its people
[04:51] <tritium> What do you mean by "one-click installs"?
[04:52] <nalioth> tritium: i mean with a fresh install, you click on bambi.avi and a popup asks you if you want to install the codecs and play it
[04:52] <nalioth> tritium: where have you been?
[04:52] <nickrud> heh. texas humor
[04:52] <tritium> nalioth: I'm aware of the codec assistant.
[04:52] <tritium> I'm not used to describing it as 'one click install'
[04:52] <nalioth> maybe "no-click install" ?
[04:53] <nalioth> anyway, easyubuntu was obsolete at that time
[04:53] <tritium> I see.
[04:54] <nickrud> maybe the factoid should change then
[04:54] <nickrud> !easyubuntu
[04:54] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[04:54] <nalioth> it says it's for dapper only on the website
[06:36] <Hobbsee> what's the name of black-magic's bot?
[06:38] <anthony> I think it was Johnny4 when I banned it, but not today.
[06:40] <Hobbsee> i wonder waht it is today
[06:40] <Hobbsee> i think it's in -offtopic again
[06:41] <anthony> what makes you think so?
[06:42] <Hobbsee> just they way they're talking
[06:42] <anthony> hmm, ok
[06:42] <anthony> @btlogin
[06:42] <anthony> aww, stupid bot
[06:43] <tonyyarusso> @btlogin
[06:44] <anthony> well, got a login - doesn't mean it works
[06:45] <ubotu> FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)
[06:45] <ubotu> FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)
[06:45] <anthony> Hobbsee: It's Reaper` [n=supybot@adsl-99-148-255-87.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net]
[06:46] <Hobbsee> hm, i don't see one
[06:49] <anthony> nope, it's only in his personal channel right now.
[06:49] <anthony> That silly babbling?  Those are called "users".
[06:51] <anthony> keep an eye on the news links though
[06:51] <anthony> I'm going to bed
[06:51] <nalioth> bed?
[06:51] <anthony> yeah, it's becoming very attractive more and more often these days
[06:52]  * anthony is working way too much
 !hi > elkbuntu
 !cake > elkbuntu
 MTecknology wants you to know: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu-offtopic!
 Paddy_EIRE wants you to know: The cake is a lie.
[07:12] <elkbuntu> at 2:35am my time
[08:44] <jussi01> Seveas: hi. has the !info <package> part of ubotu been disabled?
[09:20] <kahrytan> Hello
[09:20] <kahrytan> I would like to continue to help people in #ubuntu. I find out relaxing and fun. Anyone mind?
[09:47] <Jucato> !ping
[09:47] <ubotu> ping yourself ;-) really the diodes all down my left side are sore
[09:49] <kahrytan> !pong
[09:49] <ubotu> pong is an old atari game. It's fun!
[09:50] <kahrytan> Is not fun :( Defender... funnier
[09:54] <kahrytan> What a quiet place
[09:56] <Jucato> this place is for operator questions, that's why.
[09:57] <Jucato> I'm presuming you're banned from #ubuntu? try contacting the op who banned you
[09:58] <kahrytan> offline?
[09:59] <Jucato> I don't know who banned you. try coming back later
[10:08] <kahrytan> i do
[10:12] <Jucato> kahrytan: then contact that op. if he/she isn't here, come back later.
[10:12] <kahrytan> Are you in irc council?
[10:13] <Jucato> no. why?
[10:13] <kahrytan> then it doesnt solve my other question
[10:14] <Jucato> what other question?
[10:15] <kahrytan> Why irc council is taking so long to respond to compliants 48hrs
[10:26] <ubotu> Slart called the ops in #ubuntu (Kheops)
[10:30] <Mez> !tell kheok about CoC
[10:30] <Mez> !tell kheok about guidelines
[10:30] <Jucato> Mez: that's Kheops. I banned him in #kubuntu and I think he's also banned from ##linux
[10:30] <Jucato> jussi01: I finally got to do it :D
[10:31] <Mez> Jucato, I'm talking :D
[10:31] <Jucato> he's been asking over and over again about NTFS, and will insult anyone who tries to help him if they can't (or if he doesn't consider their answers acceptable)
[10:31] <Jucato> then he'll insult the channel and the community
[10:32]  * Mez is talking to him in PM
[10:33] <Jucato> good luck
[10:34]  * Mez has placed a ban
[10:34] <Mez> http://rafb.net/p/mgFLSz60.html
[10:35]  * Mez will brb
[11:05] <jussi01> Jucato: ok. he has been "quieted
[11:05] <jussi01> " in ##linux
[11:05] <jussi01> (stupid backspace too near enter...
[11:05] <Jucato> :P
[11:06] <Jucato> !find ntfs-3g
[11:06] <ubotu> Found: sh:
[12:46] <jpatrick> Jucato: re Kheops: didn't I (or claydoh) just ban him from kubuntuforums?
[12:48] <jpatrick> blah, all these trolls sound the same
[13:05] <Jucato> jpatrick: oh I haven't noticed :)
[13:08] <jussi01> argh
[14:00] <ubotu> dgjones called the ops in #ubuntu ()
[14:03] <LjL> stdin, don't ban from -unregged
[14:03] <LjL> need to see what's going on
[14:03] <Mez> LjL, I've removed the mutes
[14:03] <LjL> Mez, why?
[14:03] <Mez> they've flooded out ... 
[14:04] <LjL> that doesn't prevent them from reconnecting, does it
[14:04] <Mez> and quit... so I doubt they'll reconnect from the same place
[14:04] <LjL> they have.
[14:04] <LjL> the channel being +r, though, they haven't quite reached it.
[14:04] <Mez> exactly ;)
[14:04] <LjL> still, remove bans after a k-line, not before ;)
[14:04] <Mez> and was a mute, not a ban
[14:05] <LjL> to make it easier to k-line, yes
[14:05]  * Mez shrugs - the mutes arent going to be used after now I presume ?
[14:06] <LjL> Mez, depends on how long we want to stay +r
[14:06] <LjL> for such a tiny attack as this
[14:06] <Mez> LjL, :P
[14:06] <Mez> I think that they just flooded themselves out and wont be back
[14:06] <LjL> CPE00022acb146d-CM0014f8c165ea.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com is online
[14:07] <LjL> and in #ubuntu
[14:07] <Mez> * ##linux n=sdd CPE00022acb146d-CM0014f8c165ea.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com irc.freenode.net sdd H :0 sdd
[14:07] <LjL> [15:07:28] *** LjL sets mode: +b *!*@CPE00022acb146d-CM0014f8c165ea.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com
[14:07] <LjL> [15:07:28] <-- sdd has left this channel (requested by LjL: "You should have known better, bye").
[14:07] <LjL> this time i've made it a ban
[14:08] <Mez> tis fine :D
[14:08] <LjL> but the mute is useful because it lets staff know who's in the channel at a glance, and also to tab-complete easily
[14:08] <Mez> poor ##linux
[14:08] <Mez>  :P
[14:08] <jpatrick> LjL: not that same troll again?
[14:08] <LjL> jpatrick: the same as what?
[14:08] <jpatrick> never mind
[14:08] <LjL> and yes, they're still joining -unregged and flooding off in there
[14:08] <LjL> !staff
[14:08] <ubotu> Hey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick, seanw, Dave2, Christel or Gary,  I could use a bit of your time :)
[14:09] <LjL> have a look at CPE00022acb146d-CM0014f8c165ea.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com and ip82-139-92-228.lijbrandt.net in #ubuntu earlier, and now in #ubuntu-unregged
[14:10] <Mez> * Mmiin-kE (n=Kbfvn@078088118046.dzi.vectranet.pl) has joined #ubuntu-unregged
[14:10] <Mez> * Mmiin-kE has quit (Excess Flood)
[14:10] <Mez> they're obviouolsy programmed to spam #ubuntu and not getting through
[14:10] <LjL> yes.
[14:10] <LjL> so we need to stay +r until this can be fixed by staff.
[14:10] <LjL> or they clearly stop.
[14:14] <LjL> staff: updated list of offenders is 078088118046.dzi.vectranet.pl and CPE00022acb146d-CM0014f8c165ea.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com and ip82-139-92-228.lijbrandt.net - with masks matching ?????-??!?=?????@*
[14:14] <Mez> the just got through in ##linux
[14:15] <LjL> and now c-71-234-101-55.hsd1.ct.comcast.net
[14:15] <LjL> Mez: they're still doing it in #ubuntu - it's just that they're muted
[14:15] <LjL> i've removed the +r and muted their mask instead
[14:16] <Mez> LjL, banforward offenders to #ubuntu-spambots ?
[14:16] <Mez> then you can collect them in a room
[14:18] <Mez> why to ##unavailable ?
[14:18] <LjL> because it exists, to begin with
[14:18]  * Mez shrugs
[14:39] <LjL> Seveas, ubotu is logging kicks in -unregged
[14:41] <Pici> Do we need ubotu in unregged?
[14:43] <LjL> Pici, perhaps not, but i think he's always been there, and used to not log kick/bans
[14:54] <LjL> !no es is <reply> Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[14:54] <ubotu> I'll remember that LjL
[14:58] <ubotu> soundray called the ops in #ubuntu (ragazzo spamming)
[15:58] <jpatrick> hi flipstar, how may we help you?
[15:58] <flipstar> hi, i want a cloak ..
[15:59] <jpatrick> unafflicated one? Set up your nick as per http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup and ask in #freenode
[15:59] <flipstar> okay..thanks :)
[16:01] <jpatrick> AndrewB: hmmm
[16:01] <AndrewB> ?
[16:01] <jpatrick> see above ;)
[16:01] <AndrewB> ahh
[16:02] <PriceChild> Grrr just realised what's killing my wireless signal up here.
[16:02]  * PriceChild throws the cordless phones out of the window
[16:05] <jdong> PriceChild: they shouldn't interfere all that badly unless you have a trashy router
[16:05] <PriceChild> jdong: yeah, its a trashy router.
[16:05] <PriceChild> huawei
[16:05] <jdong> PriceChild: if you want to try to find something that really interferes, try a microwave oven :)
[16:06] <PriceChild> At first I thought it was just Ubuntu being silly and not pushing the card, but I turned those phones off and now all is good. *extremely* scientific and don't say otherwise.
[16:10] <PriceChild> I hate their website..
[16:50] <jpatrick> ouch, some guy in #k just rm -rf'ed half his system...
[16:52]  * Mez has done that before
[16:53] <PriceChild> silly man
[16:54] <Mez> Windows also managed to wipe a partition without me telling it to aswell (lost all my music and had to re-rip it - and also lost my signed GPG key when I was trying to become a MOTU - thanks to Riddell I got that sorted though)
[16:55]  * jpatrick always backups up ~/.gnupg
[16:58]  * Mez has a backup from a few years ago.
[16:58] <Mez> It hasnt changed much since then
[16:59] <Mez> all the sigs are on public servers anyways. so I just need the secret key :D and then grab the rest from a server
[16:59] <Mez> gpg:           new user IDs: 2
[16:59] <Mez> gpg:         new signatures: 31
[16:59] <Mez> like that ;)
[16:59] <Mez> *updates key on server)
[17:37] <jpatrick> "< ~Piero_Scaruffi> i installed Envy"
[17:38]  * jpatrick headdesk
[18:26] <jpatrick> Seveas: could it be possible to get -offtopic ubotu goodies in #kubuntu-offtopic?
[18:26] <Seveas> jpatrick, sure
[18:27] <Seveas> jpatrick, who are the ops in there?
[18:27] <jpatrick> Seveas: me, nal, Riddell, jussi, and std!n
[18:28] <Seveas> jpatrick, get one of them to ack your request so they won't get angry at me
[18:28] <jpatrick> hmm, where did Tm_T go?
[18:37] <jpatrick> Seveas: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/61148/
[18:37] <Seveas> heh
[18:38] <Seveas> I'll make ubotu2 join #kubuntu-offtopic and use its annoyances
[18:41] <Seveas> should work now
[18:41] <jpatrick> yep, does, thanks :)
[18:41] <Seveas> 2008/03/26 19:41 MessResponder:1.186 fortune was called in #kubuntu-offtopic by jpatrick!n=jon@ubuntu/member/jpatrick with argument
[19:55] <PriceChild> ompaul: a full ban needed?
[19:55] <ompaul> PriceChild, second dump
[19:56] <ompaul> I pmed him to come here to explain a paste bin
[19:56] <ompaul> hi Kadotus 
[19:56] <Kadotus> hi.
[19:56] <ompaul> you were given the following factoid 
[19:56] <ompaul> !paste
[19:56] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[19:56] <Kadotus> I really, really don't know how to use pastebin. :D
[19:56] <ompaul> click on that page
[19:57] <ompaul> it is a web thing
[19:57] <ompaul> Kadotus, it should explain itself
[19:57] <Kadotus> What do I put for syntax?
[19:57] <ompaul> nothing
[19:57] <ompaul> let it go
[19:57] <ompaul> just dump your text there
[19:58] <Kadotus> and..?
[19:58] <ompaul> click paste when you are done
[19:58] <ompaul> you will get a new url that is what soundray wants in #ubuntu
[19:58] <ompaul> tell me when you got it done
[19:58] <ompaul> and give us the url
[19:59] <Kadotus> this is the url: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/61152/
[19:59] <ompaul> Kadotus, I will now remove your ban in #ubuntu
[19:59] <ompaul> done 
[19:59] <ompaul> Kadotus, have a nice day 
[20:00] <Kadotus> ompaul
[20:00] <Kadotus> I really don't understand, what do I do with the output the pastebin gives me.
[20:00] <ompaul> you give the url in the channel
[20:00] <ompaul> and they people can read that
[20:01] <ompaul> you don't ever put more than two lines of text in the channel ;-)
[20:01] <Kadotus> Ok. It was too simple. Sorry, really, but I didn't know.
[20:01] <ompaul> hehe
[20:01] <ompaul> no problem we all had to learn at one time (mind you I think I am still learning ;-))
[20:01] <Kadotus> :P
[20:02] <ompaul> now you can head off from here have a good
[20:02] <ompaul> day
[20:02] <Kadotus> thank you.
[20:02] <ompaul> PriceChild, so what do you reckon? ;-)
[20:23] <LjL> i have a feeling the "messages sent while muted" count in the floodbot is not entirely right
[20:24] <LjL> *shrug*
[20:24] <ompaul> LjL, I know this to be true
[20:24] <ompaul> ;-0p
[20:24] <ompaul> woops
[20:24] <ompaul> :-0
[20:26] <jpatrick> Seveas: I have just kicked ubuntu2776 from #k-of
[20:26] <jpatrick> #k-ot*
[20:26] <Seveas> jpatrick, reason being?
[20:26] <jpatrick> trolling, swearing
[20:27] <Seveas> k, not so much of that in #u-ot as far as I see
[20:27] <jpatrick> just a heads up
[20:27] <Seveas> tx :)
[21:03] <jpatrick> LjL: there?
[21:06] <LjL> jpatrick: yes
[21:06] <jpatrick> LjL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/61166/
[21:06] <kageshisi> hello everyone
[21:07] <LjL> kageshisi: please change your ident to join #ubuntu
[21:07] <LjL> !language
[21:07] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[21:07] <kageshisi> how do i change that? using opera
[21:08] <LjL> jpatrick: that was pretty much out of the blue, right?
[21:08] <jpatrick> LjL: yeah..
[21:08] <LjL> kageshisi, well, i don't know as i haven't used Opera recently, but its default ident is certainly not "fuck", so you must have known how to set it, at some stage :)
[21:09] <LjL> nalioth, please have a look at jpatrick's pastebin about "pleaseandthankyo". there is a similar occurrence in ##linux (the only one of the many channels he's in):
[21:10] <LjL> [22:07:44] <pleaseandthankyo>  why don't you kill people who are on good situations than people who are on bad? i know i have
[21:10] <jpatrick> and #defocus right now
[21:10] <stdin> and ##c++
[21:10] <LjL> i meant, "the only one of the many channels he's in that i'm also in"
[21:11] <LjL> though actually no, i'm in #gentoo too, and there as well: [22:08:05] <pleaseandthankyo>  why don't you kill people who are on good situations than people who are on bad? i know i have
[21:12] <jpatrick> hmm, K:line-age
[21:12] <stdin> k-lined :)
[21:37] <MrUnagi> is ljl around?
[21:37] <LjL> uhm, no
[21:37]  * LjL hides
[21:38] <MrUnagi> i was wondering perhaps if my bans could be lifted today?
[21:39] <LjL> well no, i'm afraid that will have to wait. you behaved way too boldly i'm afraid.
[21:39]  * popey pokes Seveas 
[21:39] <popey> Seveas: why does mootbot run in CEST? Should it not run at UTC?
[21:40] <ompaul> popey, where does Seveas live?
[21:40]  * ompaul says nothing 
[21:40] <ompaul> ;-)
[21:40] <popey> irrelavent
[21:40] <LjL> well it should still run UTC
[21:40] <popey> ubuntu meetings are always scheduled and publicised in UTC
[21:40] <popey> 21:22:14 < MootBot> Meeting finished at 22:22.
[21:40] <popey> ^ that just looks wrong
[21:40] <popey> Seveas != server
[21:41] <ompaul> I know your point - I just never thought of it in any other light
[21:41] <LjL> probably the code is bugged :) it should force UTC instead of using the system's locale
[21:41] <PriceChild> popey: sev doesn't run mootbot?
[21:41] <PriceChild> does he?
[21:41] <LjL> PriceChild, he might... the old host is no more
[21:41] <ompaul> ohh
[21:41] <ompaul> MrUnagi, is there anything else?
[21:41] <jpatrick> PriceChild: http://blackbird.kaarsemaker.net/mootbot/
[21:41] <popey> http://blackbird.kaarsemaker.net/mootbot/meeting/ubuntu-uk.20080326_2131.html is the logs and that name looks like it could be his
[21:42] <PriceChild> I stand corrected.
[21:42] <MrUnagi> ljl how long should i wait
[21:42] <MrUnagi> its been quite some time now
[21:43] <LjL> MrUnagi, we had a conversation on 3 march where i thought we had come to reasonable terms, then when i said that the ban wouldn't be lifted, you went mad in all sorts of ways.
[21:44] <LjL> i don't think the ban will be lifted before a couple of months
[21:44] <MrUnagi> i was mad in all sorts of ways because i was accused of ban evading, and then mocked when explaining the situation
[21:44] <LjL> no
[21:45] <LjL> [Mon Mar 3 2008] [19:14:00] <LjL>       unagi: yes, the ban stays for some time regardless of what we say here, at this point.
[21:45] <LjL> *after* this.
[21:45] <MrUnagi> i had returned in 2 days as requested when it was said that i had ban evaded in those 2 days
[21:47] <LjL> MrUnagi, the logs are, like, full of you, since late 2007 or possibly earlier. i'm sure you know about the proverbial last straw. the fact that you insulted me, went to #freenode to make a scene, and who knows what else, after - following a reasonable conversation - you were told that your ban "wouldn't be lifted for some time no matter what we'd say here" means, i'm afraid, that we're really out of straws.
[21:48] <MrUnagi> if i hadnt been falsely accused of ban evading and THEN mocked when explaining the situation, i wouldnt have lost my temper
[21:49] <MrUnagi> so i suppose what i am suggesting is that perhaps we could come to some sort of agreement that it has been quite a while already of my being banned
[21:49] <LjL> you had lost your temper earlier, you regained it while we were discussing on 3 march, then you definitely lost it again when i stated that your ban would stay for some time anyway.
[21:49] <PriceChild> I think we provided evidence to the ban evading iirc.
[21:49] <LjL> PriceChild, nevermind the ban evading, seriously.
[21:49] <MrUnagi> there was no evidence provided of ban evading in the 2 day mark
[21:49] <PriceChild> k k
[21:50] <MrUnagi> i had returned as requested after 2 days....this is when i was told i had ban evaded, this is when i was mocked
[21:50] <LjL> MrUnagi, there is evidence, it has been provided, and anyway that's irrelevant, because you were abusive in such a way that we cannot reasonably allow you back into the channels.
[21:50] <MrUnagi> i have not been abusive to anyone in those channels, my outrages came after i had been wronged on more than one occasion
[21:51] <LjL> MrUnagi, you've been abusive enough to get yourself banned several times *in those channels*, and then you've been WAY MORE than abusive in other places.
[21:51] <LjL> we cannot, and won't, disregard that.
[21:51] <LjL> please stop insisting, and come back in about a year if you wish.
[21:51] <MrUnagi> my bans were not based on abuse they were based on misunderstood codes of conduct
[21:51] <MrUnagi> the bans thereafter occured because you laughed at me and banne dme from this channel when explaining that i did not ban evade
[21:52] <PriceChild> Why bring the CoC into this?
[21:52] <LjL> no. you're talking about before 3 march. i'm talking about after.
[21:52] <LjL> [Wed Mar 5 2008] [18:50:02] <mrunagi>   i didnt fucknig ban evande you piece of shit jackass
[21:52] <LjL> [Wed Mar 5 2008] [18:50:29] <mrunagi>   maybe if you were a good fucking op you would actually listen to people you piece of shit
[21:52] <LjL> this, for instance, is after.
[21:52] <LjL> please, stop wasting your time now.
[21:52] <MrUnagi> after iw as wronged you are correct
[21:52] <MrUnagi> after you falsely accused me of ban evading, laughing and mocking me when i tried to explain
[21:52] <MrUnagi> you are 100% correct
[21:53] <LjL> i've explained that we had talked reasonably on 3 march, and *you* went out of your way when i said (reasonably) that i'd have to wait before lifting the ban, no matter how reasonably we were talking at the time.
[21:53] <LjL> but i think i'm going around in circles now, because it's - i think - the third time i say this.
[21:53] <MrUnagi> there was no reasonable talking between you and i
[21:54] <MrUnagi> i came in here talking reasonable after the 2 days as allotted
[21:54] <MrUnagi> you then told me the ban would not be lifted because i ban evaded
[21:54] <MrUnagi> if you do not allow people to talk reasonably then how can you expect people to talk resonably
[21:55] <MrUnagi> how long of a ban satisfies your misjudgement on my ban evading
[21:55] <LjL> make it two years.
[21:55] <MrUnagi> you have to be kidding me
[21:56] <LjL> four years?
[21:56] <Seveas> make it an even five
[21:56] <LjL> MrUnagi, you weren't here when i said this:
[21:56] <LjL> [Mon Mar 3 2008] [19:27:10] <LjL>       i think unagi should be unbanned if he comes back asking nicely enough.
[21:56] <LjL> [Mon Mar 3 2008] [19:27:46] <LjL>       he got relatively reasonable.
[21:56] <LjL> unfortunately, you missed *that* boat, by behaving like a complete idiot.
[21:56] <LjL> EOD
[21:57] <ompaul> Seveas, oddly enough 
[21:57] <MrUnagi> im banned for 4 years because you laughed at me and mocked me when i tried to explain that your accusation of my ban evading is incorrect?
[21:57] <MrUnagi> i came in asking nicely after the 2 days that you alotted to my ban when you accused me of ban evading
[21:57] <MrUnagi> how many wrongs do you expect a man to endure before he loses his temper
[21:58]  * PriceChild sighs
[21:58] <ompaul> if he is a man he should not loose it
[21:59] <ubotu> jpatrick called the ops in #ubuntu (Skinhed)
[21:59] <MrUnagi> so seriously........4 years because you were incorrect in your judgement initially?
[22:00] <Seveas> why isn't jpatrick op in #ubuntu? :) 
[22:00] <jpatrick> Seveas: I think the council is voting or something..
[22:00] <Seveas> jpatrick, ah
[22:00] <Seveas> they should vote faster :)
[22:01] <jpatrick> and *damn* AfterDeath has a massive away message in his away_hilight_notice.pl
[22:01] <Seveas> jpatrick, paste in pm :)
[22:01] <LjL> MrUnagi: *sigh* i was not incorrect. you *admitted* the ban evader was you. now go away.
[22:01] <MrUnagi> i NEVER said that i ban evaded
[22:01] <MrUnagi> and you cannot prove otherwise
[22:02] <jpatrick> Seveas: ok, not that big, it just looked huge in small terminal box
[22:02] <Seveas> heh
[22:02] <MrUnagi> i have always maintained that this is a business connection....and that i personally never was on irc in those 2 days
[22:02] <Seveas> what did it highlight on?
[22:02] <MrUnagi> is that or is that not in the logs
[22:02] <Seveas> on the !o.ps?
[22:02] <jpatrick> yeah
[22:02] <Seveas> gonna kick him for that
[22:02] <LjL> PriceChild, do you happen to have the evidence handy?
[22:03] <jpatrick> Seveas: I've even stopped hilight-ing !o.ps because of the script
[22:04] <Seveas> mrt 07 23:56:41 <mrunagi__>	nalioth: i understand that i evaded the ban on the kline im not denying that
[22:04] <MrUnagi> that would be after the fact
[22:04] <LjL> thank you Seveas, that's one, although i was thinking of a couple of others
[22:04] <Seveas> yeah, was just a quick'n'dirty grep
[22:04] <MrUnagi> this is exactly my point you cannot follow what i am saying
[22:05] <MrUnagi> look for the day 2 days after you said i was banned for 2 days
[22:05] <MrUnagi> the day you mocked and ridiculed me
[22:05] <LjL> MrUnagi, that's because you've been trolling for so long, with so many nicknames, that our logs are stuffed with your trolling.
[22:05] <MrUnagi> what nicks....
[22:05] <MrUnagi> waynrdude? camserver? evo?
[22:05] <MrUnagi> nicks that arent mine?
[22:05] <LjL> yes, thank you!
[22:06] <MrUnagi> thats exactly my point
[22:06] <MrUnagi> to this day you still think that i ban evaded
[22:06] <Seveas> s/think/know/
[22:06] <MrUnagi> this is a business connection....
[22:06] <MrUnagi> i have said this before
[22:06] <LjL> MrUnagi: one moment, please.
[22:06] <MrUnagi> there are other employees here that use irc to find answers
[22:06] <LjL> #kubuntu: [Wed Mar 5 2008] [01:29:20] <mrunagi>   <----------camserver
[22:06] <MrUnagi> i understand.......that was mentioned before
[22:07] <MrUnagi> my mistake was allowing my laptop to be open and used
[22:07] <MrUnagi> i have tried to explain that
[22:08] <jpatrick> MrUnagi: hmm, kde comes with good screen locking stuff
[22:08] <Seveas> MrUnagi, that's standard troll excuse #7
[22:08] <MrUnagi> look i understand after the 5th i made alot of mistakes all i am asking is that it be understood that march 3 4 and 5 i was never on irc....it is one big misunderstanding
[22:08] <Seveas> and we don't buy it
[22:08] <LjL> nalioth, "skinhed" gave his poetry in #gentoo as well as #ubuntu
[22:08] <LjL> MrUnagi, i don't believe a word of what you say, especially since you have *said* camserver was you.
[22:08] <MrUnagi> just because you dont buy it doesnt make it not true.....
[22:08] <LjL> MrUnagi, let's see if we have a deal
[22:09] <Seveas> MrUnagi, and iirc you said earlier they used different pcs
[22:09] <LjL> the deal is, you will be unbanned in 8 years.
[22:09] <LjL> ok?
[22:09] <MrUnagi> please be resonable
[22:09] <LjL> no, we've had enough.
[22:09] <Seveas> now we wait for this one
[22:10] <Seveas> mrt 05 19:40:18 -->	mrunagi_ (n=mrunagi@68-243-10-229.area7.spcsdns.net) has joined #ubuntu-ops
[22:10] <LjL> Seveas: and hawaiiantel, and......
[22:10] <ompaul> ohh now there is interesting
[22:10] <LjL> ompaul: NO, it's not who you think it is :)
[22:10] <ompaul> spell the letter k
[22:10] <ompaul> LjL, ok 
[22:10] <Seveas> hello azexian what can we do for you
[22:11] <ompaul> azexian, how can we help you?
[22:11] <azexian> you can't, keep up the good work =)
[22:11] <LjL> err, right.
[22:11] <jpatrick> ..
[22:11] <ompaul> \?
[22:12] <LjL> Jberg88, how can i help you?
[22:12] <LjL> [23:11:38] <MrUnagi> can you please explain to me why i am being treated so poorly please
[22:12] <LjL> [23:11:51] <LjL> i have. i will not reply to your messages further.
[22:12] <nalioth> LjL: yep
[22:12] <Seeker`> LjL: Looks fair enough
[22:12] <Jberg88> well I think i need to get a test but i know it will crash
[22:12] <Seveas> Jberg88, then fix it first :)
[22:13] <Jberg88> I tried many times last night
[22:13] <LjL> Jberg88, what client are you using?
[22:13] <Seeker`> Jberg88: What port are you connected on?
[22:13] <Jberg88> I am on a Mac using colloquy
[22:13] <Jberg88> port 8001
[22:14] <LjL> Jberg88, ah you're the colloquy guy?
[22:14] <Jberg88> yes yes I am
[22:14] <LjL> Jberg88: well i've never used that client, and i can't try it out either
[22:14] <Jberg88> its ok 
[22:14] <LjL> Jberg88: i can only tell you that *every* exploit victim we've seen has fixed it by connecting to 8001, so i think your client must be ignoring the port setting, or something
[22:14] <LjL> Jberg88: open up a terminal please
[22:15] <Jberg88> its oken
[22:15] <Jberg88> open
[22:15] <LjL> Jberg88: now, let's just hope this is the correct syntax on a Mac too... type « sudo netstat -p | grep irc »
[22:16] <ompaul> LjL, a bash shell can be installed 
[22:16] <ompaul> dont think it needs sudo
[22:16] <ompaul> nalioth, got any ideas here?
[22:16] <Jberg88> LjL: mac has 90% of the same as ubuntu
[22:17] <nalioth> try xchat-aqua
[22:17] <Jberg88> What now
[22:17] <Jberg88> nalioth: I am picky I will try a little more before using it 
[22:18] <LjL> Jberg88: well, what does that command say?
[22:18] <Jberg88> netstat: option requires an argument -- p
[22:18] <Jberg88> and it gives me options on usage
[22:18] <LjL> Jberg88: try without the -p
[22:19] <Jberg88> nothing happened
[22:19] <LjL> Jberg88: try « sudo netstat | grep freenode » then
[22:19] <Jberg88> tcp4       0      0  bcvpn45.bc.edu.49544   kubrick.freenode.vcom- ESTABLISHED
[22:20] <ompaul> reply path ...
[22:20] <Jberg88> ompaul: huh?
[22:20] <LjL> Jberg88: argh, that doesn't show the port >:
[22:21] <Seveas> netstat -n will
[22:21] <Seveas> netstat -n | grep 64.161.254.20
[22:21] <LjL> Seveas: it's more like that the column gets cut... but yeah i suppose the IP + numeric port will fit
[22:21] <Jberg88> tcp4       0      0  136.167.17.45.49544    64.161.254.20.8001     ESTABLISHED
[22:22] <LjL> Jberg88: so it seems that you're actually connected to the right port
[22:22] <ompaul> Jberg88, so your client should be ok and your router not trouble yuou
[22:22] <LjL> Jberg88: mind if i test you now?
[22:22] <ompaul> LjL, test him please 
[22:22] <Jberg88> please test me
[22:22] <Pici> someone should test him
[22:22] <LjL> uhm
[22:22] <Seveas> probably colloqui is broken
[22:22] <LjL> he quit 7 seconds after i tested him
[22:23] <LjL> Jberg88, you quit 7 seconds after i tested you
[22:23] <ompaul> once more there LjL 
[22:23] <Pici> Could be a overzealous router closing the connecting
[22:23] <LjL> that's not typical of the exploit that we know
[22:23] <Jberg88> failed
[22:23] <LjL> Pici, not on 8001 really
[22:23] <LjL> Pici: and not after 7 seconds
[22:23] <Seveas> LjL, must have been the test that was sent as last?
[22:23] <ompaul> 8001 should be robust
[22:23] <Pici> LjL: hence the overzealousness
[22:23] <LjL> CTCP PING is 1 second
[22:23] <Seveas> LjL, it does send several variants, right?
[22:23] <LjL> Seveas, PM
[22:23] <Jberg88> LjL so can i go into ubuntu now?
[22:24] <Jberg88> apparently not
[22:24] <LjL> Jberg88, no, because you failed the test... however we need to investigate this
[22:24] <LjL> this time he quit after 5 seconds
[22:25] <Seveas> Jberg88, could you try another IRC client?
[22:25] <LjL> Jberg88, i really would be glad if you could try connecting using another client, such as xchat-aqua that nalioth mentioned, or something else available for Mac
[22:25] <Jberg88> ok deleting this crap
[22:25] <Jberg88> download x-chat
[22:26] <LjL> Jberg88: actually, could you just try something quick and dirty for me, please?
[22:26] <LjL> Jberg88: type « telnet irc.freenode.net 8001 » in a shell
[22:26] <LjL> Jberg88: then type (you need to do this a bit quickly)
[22:26] <LjL> 1) USER jberg jberg jberg jberg
[22:26] <Jberg88> in a shell?????
[22:26] <LjL> 2) NICK jberg88--
[22:27] <LjL> 3) JOIN #ubuntu-ops
[22:27] <LjL> yes, in a console, terminal
[22:27] <Jberg88> oh ok 
[22:28] <LjL> without the 1) 2) 3), mind!
[22:28] <Jberg88> yeah I know
[22:29] <Jberg88> keeps closing the connection 
[22:29] <Jberg88> hold on
[22:29] <Seveas> then you're not fast enough ;)
[22:29] <LjL> Jberg88, you need to type that fairly quickly, no more than 15 seconds or so
[22:29] <Jberg88> ok
[22:29] <LjL> copy and paste perhaps
[22:29] <Jberg88> Yeah 
[22:30] <Jberg88> woooooooooooooooow
[22:30] <Jberg88> hahah 
[22:30] <Seveas> hah
[22:31] <LjL> Jberg88, i've just tested Jberg88--, and it's not vulnerable. so it must be your client's fault...
[22:31] <Jberg88> oh cool
[22:31] <Jberg88> that's cool
[22:31] <Seveas> yup, tested it as well
[22:31] <Seveas> !exploit
[22:31] <ubotu> There are people around who think it is funny to abuse a bug in certain routers by sending invalid DCC commands. When bitten by this bug ops in #ubuntu remove users so they are no longer targets. To fix it have a look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixDCCExploit
[22:31] <Seveas> adding to that page
[22:32] <Jberg88> adding what?>
[22:32] <Jberg88> well I tried that link before
[22:32] <Jberg88> removing this Client 
[22:32] <Jberg88> thanks guys
[22:33] <LjL> argh
[22:33] <marko-_-> when i wanna join #ubuntu
[22:33] <marko-_-> i can't
[22:33] <marko-_-> -ChanServ- [##unavailable] You've tried to join an unavailable channel.
[22:33] <marko-_-> i get this, why ?
[22:33] <LjL> marko-_-: i'll fix this immediately.
[22:33] <marko-_-> ok
[22:33] <marko-_-> but could you tell what happened ? i'm currious
[22:34] <LjL> marko-_-: you happen to have a nickname and ident pattern that was banned today, due to being abused by spammers
[22:34] <LjL> marko-_-: you can join now
[22:34] <marko-_-> ok
[22:34] <marko-_-> thaNks
[22:34] <marko-_-> thanks*
[22:36] <LjL> jberg88_, it's honestly not clear to me how one reports bugs for Colloquy, although it must be something here: http://colloquy.info/project - you may want to join #colloquy on this network and investigate
[22:36] <LjL> jberg88_: are you on another client now, and on port 8001?
[22:37] <Jberg88_> no
[22:37] <Jberg88_> trying to get my password
[22:37] <Jberg88_> I forgot it
[22:37] <Jberg88_> :P 
[22:38] <LjL> Jberg88_, if you've given an email address when you registered, then you can ask for a new password to be sent to it, if you really can't remember it
[22:38] <Seveas> the thing has blocker bugs from 2005, I assume that development is slow
[22:40] <LjL> oh.
[22:41] <Seveas> need to register before you can submit a bug
[22:41] <Seveas> can't be arsed
[22:43] <Jberg88> hey 
[22:43] <Seveas> heya
[22:43] <Jberg88> using X-Chat 
[22:43] <Seveas> connected to port 8001?
[22:43] <Jberg88> yeah
[22:44] <Seveas> try the 'test me' in #ubuntu-read-topic
[22:45] <Jberg88> can you see what i got?
[22:45] <Seveas> yeah, you passed :)
[22:45] <Jberg88> sweet I am in now!
[22:45] <Seveas> welcome back to #ubuntu :)
[22:45] <Jberg88> thank YOU!
[22:45] <LjL> thank you for pointing out this broken client to us ;)
[22:45] <Jberg88> now to set my password -.-
[22:45] <Jberg88> LjL: my pleasure
[22:46] <LjL> Jberg88: you don't quite remember it, or can manage to get it from colloquy?
[22:46] <Jberg88> I got it from colloquy
[22:46] <Jberg88> but when i enter it it says wrong password
[22:47] <LjL> Jberg88: when you enter it where? try simply typing « /msg nickserv identify yourpassword » (in a non-channel window!)
[22:48] <Jberg88> I don't know how to open a non channel window here
[22:48] <LjL> Jberg88: well then type it in the channel, just make sure you put no spaces before the /, or we see the password
[22:49] <Jberg88> yeah password is incorrect
[22:50] <LjL> Jberg88: well, did you set an email address when you registered? if you didn't, you won't have much luck i'm afraid
[22:50] <Jberg88> I did set an email
[22:51] <ompaul> night all
[22:51] <LjL> Jberg88: then join #freenode and ask to have your password reset
[22:53] <LjL> ompaul, learn to ban >:
[22:53] <Jberg88> hey guys how do I make xchat open these channels as I log in
[22:54] <LjL> Jberg88: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XChatHowto - "Settings for network"
[22:55] <Jberg88> thanks you've helped me a lot today THANKS!!!
[23:03] <mneptok> Jberg88: ca va?
[23:03] <Jberg88> oui 
[23:04] <mneptok> Jberg88: pas de problemes au jour d'hui, ou ...?
[23:04] <Jberg88> J'utilise x-chat maitenant 
[23:04] <Jberg88> colostupid had a bug
[23:05] <mneptok> d'accord. il travail hokay?
[23:05] <Jberg88> tres bien 
[23:05] <mneptok> parfait
[23:05] <Jberg88> J'aime x-chat plus que colostupid
[23:07] <mneptok> oui, c'est une meillieur client
[23:07] <Jberg88> j'suis daccord