[00:00] In ubotu, zoredache said: !lowmemory is For installing on low memory systems, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements. [00:00] In ubotu, zoredache said: !lowmem is lowmemory [00:01] !lowmemory is For installing on low memory systems, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements. [00:01] I'll remember that, ompaul [00:01] !lowmem is lowmemory [00:02] hmm [00:02] !lowmem [00:02] For installing on low memory systems, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements. [00:02] zoredache, that's a good one - wonder how often it will be called though [00:02] it almost seems to long... but questions about low-memory installs are asked frequently on xubuntu [00:03] I figure I will use it about 3-4 times a day [00:03] zoredache, I used to think that one line was too long [00:03] but we don't have url.ubuntu.com to make stuff short [00:03] * ompaul notes that [00:03] mneptok, ^^ that is a good idea ;-) [00:04] url.ubuntu.com for tinyurls for ubuntu [00:04] * nikrud pats ompaul on the back [00:04] if it could be limited to ubuntu domain urls, sure [00:04] it could [00:04] otherwise, it'll be misused for links to pr0n :( [00:04] ompaul: somewhere, right now, elmo got the shivers. [00:05] mneptok, and he will more than shiver when I say it to him face to face [00:05] :) [00:05] hahaha [00:05] mneptok, i have elmo's number in my phone, shall i ring him up and tell him you like the idea? [00:05] elky_work, careful now - elmo having shivers or the tinyurl ? [00:06] elky_work: go for it. he doesn't care what i think. he *does* care whose fingers just dialed him at midnight. [00:07] ompaul, well, once i tell him about the tinyurl and how mneptok likes it, he'll shiver, and then i'll tell him mneptok likes the thought of him shivering [00:07] * ompaul Reductio ad absurdum [00:07] mneptok, i didnt say i was going to do it now [00:08] 6.10 goes out on October 26, 2006 [00:10] o.O [00:10] are you providing the time-machine? [00:13] damn [00:14] Friday April 25th, 2008 << eol [00:14] and here is my stupid comment fwiw -- that is too short a time gap between release of hardy and it [00:15] in a production env I need to migrate to something and need time to do so [00:15] you had time [00:15] you could have upgraded to 7.04 or 7.10 [00:15] mneptok, lts>lts? [00:16] or stayed with Dapper. [00:16] mneptok, stayed ;-) [00:16] 6.10 != LTS [00:16] ahh [00:16] oh, right, im misreading [00:16] woops [00:16] so am I [00:16] * ompaul desk heads [00:16] this is what happens when you IRC from work :P [00:16] i love truth in advertising [00:17] 20:13 ompaul + and here is my stupid comment fwiw [00:17] :P [00:17] lol [00:17] gegegege [00:17] hahahaah [00:17] swallow the beer before laughing [00:17] right it is midnight 17 and I will use that as my excuse [00:19] backing up my brother in laws pc before it gets the "restore" to first version treatment [00:21] right backup done [00:22] been about 3 hours to do it over the wire with a live CD [00:22] so now I can power it all off and sort it tomorrow [00:42] mmm...lots of green [00:46] LjL: i'm sorry , i don't see you as a liar. I'm seeing you as someone who went and got proof about the allegations, which is far better than accusing without proof, and is in fact, the ubuntu way of doing things. [00:46] LjL: as it is, i'd suggest circulating this logs around other channels that she's known to visit, so the chanops there can make their own decisions (like -women, for eg) [00:48] Hobbsee, pleia2 is here anyway [00:51] elky_work: ahh, useful. [00:53] yes, I've kept up on this whole thing :) [00:53] good [00:53] excellent [01:14] * mneptok noogies pleia2 [01:38] I'm not so sure the topic change was required. [01:41] tritium: why? [01:42] Hobbsee: for the same reasons LjL didn't like it [01:49] i noticed that the ban on the connection at my work was lifted.......i wasnt sure if that was a mistake or not [01:50] * tritium just noticed that emma is opped up in ##ubuntu-ops [01:50] wtf [01:50] oh, I like the name of that channel [01:50] No kidding [01:50] MrUnagi: what's the work hostname? [01:50] @btlogin [01:51] im not sure but my dad was just on it under waynrdude and either evo or sle [01:52] MrUnagi: Tennessee? [01:52] yes [01:52] 'k [01:52] is it a mistake? [01:53] give him time to look [01:53] im sorry [01:53] lol im not educated in the ways of irc opping :D [01:54] MrUnagi, he's checking the records we keep for each other's sanity, but the records system runs on sqlite which is um... well.. not really suitible. [01:54] slow? [01:54] as a snail [01:54] thats no good lol [01:54] what exactly does sql stand for [01:54] standard query language iirc [01:55] structured query language [01:55] aha [01:55] * nikrud goes off to check his memoyr [01:55] MrUnagi: Okay, looks like I've found the relevant portions, parsing the comments and logs attached. [01:55] okies [01:56] nikrud, i think you're right [01:56] acronyms often defeat me, but I got this one right [01:58] MrUnagi: erm, it appears you've actually had quite a few - which channel(s) were you referring to? [01:58] <[agatha]> you should watch out with aoupi in offtopic [01:58] <[agatha]> he's being waaaaaaaaay rude [01:58] <[agatha]> thanks [01:58] Any Spanish speakers able to follow up on that? [01:59] I'll check [01:59] momento [01:59] As much as I hate #ubuntu-offtopic... [01:59] agatha seems to have handled it herself [02:00] MrUnagi: it appears to be configured in such a way that your family can get in, but not you. Could you confirm or deny that? [02:02] im sorry i lost connection [02:02] i am now on my home connection [02:02] Mr_Unagi: it appears to be configured in such a way that your family can get in, but not you. Could you confirm or deny that? [02:03] not at the moment i couldnt, because i am no longer there.....i had not tried to connect with my laptop [02:03] brg [02:03] brb [02:05] * tritium is quickly reminded why he hates #ubuntu-offtopic [02:05] heh [02:05] it's good for you tritium [02:06] nikrud: no, really, I don't think so [02:06] it's always good to touch base with inanity, gives a reference point [02:06] nikrud: ;) [02:15] HI NIKRUD! [02:15] i see you used the "summon mneptok" phrase [02:15] ("touch base with inanity") [02:15] mneptok lol, you do that too then [02:16] nikrud: every time i begin to believe you guys and start thinking i'm one of the stranger people on IRC, -offtopic soon cures me of such delusions. [02:16] mneptok don't be delusional ;) [02:17] yeah, i can act really, REALLY weird. but the pivotal word is "act." [02:17] thse other people are *drop dead serious* [02:17] which is both hysterically funny, and about the most depressing thing i can think of. [02:17] like a Nazi dressed like a bunny. [02:17] heh. Likewise, I'm notorious for it. One upmanship is a nice game in small doses [02:18] what's really fun is throwing in a profundity now and then (I have to crib those) [02:19] I've had my share for the evening. [02:19] good night tritium [02:19] nikrud: oh, I just meant I was /parting #ubuntu-offtopic ;) [02:20] you still watching that? My god, go read some voltaire, or something, get it out of your system [02:21] I think I will :) [02:21] Good night. [02:30] is there any indication when the bans will lifted for me? or was the decision just randomly made to lift it for my works connection [03:21] could someone remove the redundant gutsysources is at the beginning from !gutsysources? [03:25] can someone help me with this test thing I can [03:25] i can't get understand what's going one? [03:32] Jberg88: you got a warning about being vulnerable to an attack? [03:33] me no way [03:33] How do I fix this? [03:33] fix what? [03:33] you didnt get a warning, or you think you're not vulnerable? [03:34] I don't think I am vulnerable at all [03:34] mneptok, care to do a manual test? [03:34] Jberg88: if you fall offline, please rejoin #ubuntu-read-topic when you return [03:34] nope, not at all [03:34] ok, then [03:34] * mneptok 1 | clueless newb 0 [03:35] Jberg88, you *are* vulnerable [03:35] damn it [03:35] Jberg88: welcome back. shall i cause you to be disconnected again? or would *you* rather control your own computer? ;) [03:35] Jberg88, please read the actual topic of #ubuntu-read-topic this time [03:36] I did [03:36] Jberg88, and of course you obeyed the instructions there? [03:36] not thoroughly :O [03:36] Jberg88, so, you've not changed your port to 8001 instead of 6667? [03:37] that's all you need to do to avoid snotty little brats making you disconnect from irc [03:37] ok thank you [03:37] hey now. i've started wiping my nose. [03:37] heh [03:38] you will need to restart your client after making the change [03:38] Jberg88: connectez-vous a porte 8001, re-/join cette canal, et je vous teste encore. [03:38] merci [03:38] de rien [03:38] how did you know i spoke french? [03:39] 23:31 -[%]- the whois of Jberg88 -[%]- [03:39] 23:31 host : n=Jberg88@bcvpn33.bc.edu [03:39] 23:31 ircname : Ergy Jean-Baptiste [03:39] 23:31 -[%]- the whois of Jberg88 -[%]- [03:39] 23:31 host : n=Jberg88@bcvpn33.bc.edu [03:39] 23:31 ircname : Ergy Jean-Baptiste [03:39] J-B est une prenom *Francais* [03:40] etes-vouse pretes? [03:40] -e [03:40] :O [03:40] oui [03:40] :/ [03:40] test failed (obviously) [03:41] Jberg88, what client are you using? [03:41] yeah [03:41] I am on the recommended ports though [03:41] Jberg88: set your client to use port 8001 for Freenode, then quit and restart the IRC client [03:41] ok trying it again [03:41] elky_work: Colloquy (OSX) [03:41] that's creepy [03:42] Jberg88: you have no idea how creepy i am. [03:42] Jberg88: want to be *really* scared? i'm an American ... who has chosen to live in Quebec. [03:42] creepy enough? ;) [03:42] * nickrud doesn't believe a word about mneptok being american [03:43] lol [03:43] nickrud, he does not in any way sound canadian... [03:43] nope. Not nearly scary enough [03:43] Jberg88: quand vouse etes pretes ... [03:43] -e [03:44] I don't think it's going to work but I am not seeing why its not working [03:45] I am on the correct port on irc.freenode.net [03:45] going to quit and restart [03:46] * nickrud thinks mneptok tries to live up to his last name, just as I do [03:46] back [03:46] Jberg88: encore plus? [03:47] pelase [03:47] please [03:47] * mneptok waits [03:47] :/ [03:47] Jberg88, you are fully closing the whole entire irc client, as in, quitting colloquy completely so it is not running at all, right? [03:47] * mneptok goes to remind himself of the name of the other good freeware OSX IRC client [03:48] mneptok, xchat? :P [03:48] aaaaaaaaaahhhh!! [03:48] elky_work: yeah [03:49] I have ubuntu on parallels on my computer but I dont use it much [03:49] elky_work: not updated in 2 years [03:49] Jberg88: http://www.cs.umu.se/~nilsh/MacIrssi-0.8.2.dmg [03:50] * mneptok > Metro > ma maison [03:50] a toute a l'heure, Jberg88. bon chance. [03:52] mneptok: that program fails [03:53] Jberg88, sounds like you need a better OS :P [03:53] doesn't even run [03:53] brb [03:56] this is really annoying [04:03] anyone? [04:04] test me [04:04] ooops [04:08] ugh [04:09] Jberg88: try xchat aqua [04:09] alright [04:46] !automatix [04:46] Automatix is no longer developed or supported by its creators and is not recommended, supported or needed by Ubuntu. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe » [04:46] HERETIC! [04:46] oh [04:47] nalioth: are you still involved with easyubuntu? [04:47] nah, just wanted to make sure it had the new info about not being developed [04:47] saw envy being discussed and it brought it to mind [04:48] what was automatix [04:49] Mr_Unagi check the link [04:49] "a bad idea" [04:49] just did =) [04:49] much easier this way lol [04:49] tritium: easyubuntu went obsolete with edgy [04:49] nalioth: ah, really? [04:50] tritium: one click installs were introduced with edgy [04:50] automatix was carried on for this long as an ego-boost for its people [04:51] What do you mean by "one-click installs"? [04:52] tritium: i mean with a fresh install, you click on bambi.avi and a popup asks you if you want to install the codecs and play it [04:52] tritium: where have you been? [04:52] heh. texas humor [04:52] nalioth: I'm aware of the codec assistant. [04:52] I'm not used to describing it as 'one click install' [04:52] maybe "no-click install" ? [04:53] anyway, easyubuntu was obsolete at that time [04:53] I see. [04:54] maybe the factoid should change then [04:54] !easyubuntu [04:54] easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu [04:54] it says it's for dapper only on the website [06:36] what's the name of black-magic's bot? [06:38] I think it was Johnny4 when I banned it, but not today. [06:40] i wonder waht it is today [06:40] i think it's in -offtopic again [06:41] what makes you think so? [06:42] just they way they're talking [06:42] hmm, ok [06:42] @btlogin [06:42] aww, stupid bot [06:43] @btlogin [06:44] well, got a login - doesn't mean it works [06:45] FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [06:45] FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [06:45] Hobbsee: It's Reaper` [n=supybot@adsl-99-148-255-87.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] [06:46] hm, i don't see one [06:49] nope, it's only in his personal channel right now. [06:49] That silly babbling? Those are called "users". [06:51] keep an eye on the news links though [06:51] I'm going to bed [06:51] bed? [06:51] yeah, it's becoming very attractive more and more often these days [06:52] * anthony is working way too much [07:12] !hi > elkbuntu [07:12] !cake > elkbuntu [07:12] MTecknology wants you to know: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu-offtopic! [07:12] Paddy_EIRE wants you to know: The cake is a lie. [07:12] at 2:35am my time [08:44] Seveas: hi. has the !info part of ubotu been disabled? [09:20] Hello [09:20] I would like to continue to help people in #ubuntu. I find out relaxing and fun. Anyone mind? [09:47] !ping [09:47] ping yourself ;-) really the diodes all down my left side are sore [09:49] !pong [09:49] pong is an old atari game. It's fun! [09:50] Is not fun :( Defender... funnier [09:54] What a quiet place [09:56] this place is for operator questions, that's why. [09:57] I'm presuming you're banned from #ubuntu? try contacting the op who banned you [09:58] offline? [09:59] I don't know who banned you. try coming back later [10:08] i do [10:12] kahrytan: then contact that op. if he/she isn't here, come back later. [10:12] Are you in irc council? [10:13] no. why? [10:13] then it doesnt solve my other question [10:14] what other question? [10:15] Why irc council is taking so long to respond to compliants 48hrs [10:26] Slart called the ops in #ubuntu (Kheops) [10:30] !tell kheok about CoC [10:30] !tell kheok about guidelines [10:30] Mez: that's Kheops. I banned him in #kubuntu and I think he's also banned from ##linux [10:30] jussi01: I finally got to do it :D [10:31] Jucato, I'm talking :D [10:31] he's been asking over and over again about NTFS, and will insult anyone who tries to help him if they can't (or if he doesn't consider their answers acceptable) [10:31] then he'll insult the channel and the community [10:32] * Mez is talking to him in PM [10:33] good luck [10:34] * Mez has placed a ban [10:34] http://rafb.net/p/mgFLSz60.html [10:35] * Mez will brb [11:05] Jucato: ok. he has been "quieted [11:05] " in ##linux [11:05] (stupid backspace too near enter... [11:05] :P [11:06] !find ntfs-3g [11:06] Found: sh: [12:46] Jucato: re Kheops: didn't I (or claydoh) just ban him from kubuntuforums? [12:48] blah, all these trolls sound the same [13:05] jpatrick: oh I haven't noticed :) [13:08] argh [14:00] dgjones called the ops in #ubuntu () [14:03] stdin, don't ban from -unregged [14:03] need to see what's going on [14:03] LjL, I've removed the mutes [14:03] Mez, why? [14:03] they've flooded out ... [14:04] that doesn't prevent them from reconnecting, does it [14:04] and quit... so I doubt they'll reconnect from the same place [14:04] they have. [14:04] the channel being +r, though, they haven't quite reached it. [14:04] exactly ;) [14:04] still, remove bans after a k-line, not before ;) [14:04] and was a mute, not a ban [14:05] to make it easier to k-line, yes [14:05] * Mez shrugs - the mutes arent going to be used after now I presume ? [14:06] Mez, depends on how long we want to stay +r [14:06] for such a tiny attack as this [14:06] LjL, :P [14:06] I think that they just flooded themselves out and wont be back [14:06] CPE00022acb146d-CM0014f8c165ea.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com is online [14:07] and in #ubuntu [14:07] * ##linux n=sdd CPE00022acb146d-CM0014f8c165ea.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com irc.freenode.net sdd H :0 sdd [14:07] [15:07:28] *** LjL sets mode: +b *!*@CPE00022acb146d-CM0014f8c165ea.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [14:07] [15:07:28] <-- sdd has left this channel (requested by LjL: "You should have known better, bye"). [14:07] this time i've made it a ban [14:08] tis fine :D [14:08] but the mute is useful because it lets staff know who's in the channel at a glance, and also to tab-complete easily [14:08] poor ##linux [14:08] :P [14:08] LjL: not that same troll again? [14:08] jpatrick: the same as what? [14:08] never mind [14:08] and yes, they're still joining -unregged and flooding off in there [14:08] !staff [14:08] Hey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick, seanw, Dave2, Christel or Gary, I could use a bit of your time :) [14:09] have a look at CPE00022acb146d-CM0014f8c165ea.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com and ip82-139-92-228.lijbrandt.net in #ubuntu earlier, and now in #ubuntu-unregged [14:10] * Mmiin-kE (n=Kbfvn@078088118046.dzi.vectranet.pl) has joined #ubuntu-unregged [14:10] * Mmiin-kE has quit (Excess Flood) [14:10] they're obviouolsy programmed to spam #ubuntu and not getting through [14:10] yes. [14:10] so we need to stay +r until this can be fixed by staff. [14:10] or they clearly stop. [14:14] staff: updated list of offenders is 078088118046.dzi.vectranet.pl and CPE00022acb146d-CM0014f8c165ea.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com and ip82-139-92-228.lijbrandt.net - with masks matching ?????-??!?=?????@* [14:14] the just got through in ##linux [14:15] and now c-71-234-101-55.hsd1.ct.comcast.net [14:15] Mez: they're still doing it in #ubuntu - it's just that they're muted [14:15] i've removed the +r and muted their mask instead [14:16] LjL, banforward offenders to #ubuntu-spambots ? [14:16] then you can collect them in a room [14:18] why to ##unavailable ? [14:18] because it exists, to begin with [14:18] * Mez shrugs [14:39] Seveas, ubotu is logging kicks in -unregged [14:41] Do we need ubotu in unregged? [14:43] Pici, perhaps not, but i think he's always been there, and used to not log kick/bans [14:54] !no es is Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda. [14:54] I'll remember that LjL [14:58] soundray called the ops in #ubuntu (ragazzo spamming) === zoredache_ is now known as zoredache [15:58] hi flipstar, how may we help you? [15:58] hi, i want a cloak .. [15:59] unafflicated one? Set up your nick as per http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup and ask in #freenode [15:59] okay..thanks :) [16:01] AndrewB: hmmm [16:01] ? [16:01] see above ;) [16:01] ahh [16:02] Grrr just realised what's killing my wireless signal up here. [16:02] * PriceChild throws the cordless phones out of the window [16:05] PriceChild: they shouldn't interfere all that badly unless you have a trashy router [16:05] jdong: yeah, its a trashy router. [16:05] huawei [16:05] PriceChild: if you want to try to find something that really interferes, try a microwave oven :) [16:06] At first I thought it was just Ubuntu being silly and not pushing the card, but I turned those phones off and now all is good. *extremely* scientific and don't say otherwise. [16:10] I hate their website.. [16:50] ouch, some guy in #k just rm -rf'ed half his system... [16:52] * Mez has done that before [16:53] silly man [16:54] Windows also managed to wipe a partition without me telling it to aswell (lost all my music and had to re-rip it - and also lost my signed GPG key when I was trying to become a MOTU - thanks to Riddell I got that sorted though) [16:55] * jpatrick always backups up ~/.gnupg [16:58] * Mez has a backup from a few years ago. [16:58] It hasnt changed much since then [16:59] all the sigs are on public servers anyways. so I just need the secret key :D and then grab the rest from a server [16:59] gpg: new user IDs: 2 [16:59] gpg: new signatures: 31 [16:59] like that ;) [16:59] *updates key on server) === tsmithe` is now known as tsmithe [17:37] "< ~Piero_Scaruffi> i installed Envy" [17:38] * jpatrick headdesk [18:26] Seveas: could it be possible to get -offtopic ubotu goodies in #kubuntu-offtopic? [18:26] jpatrick, sure [18:27] jpatrick, who are the ops in there? [18:27] Seveas: me, nal, Riddell, jussi, and std!n [18:28] jpatrick, get one of them to ack your request so they won't get angry at me [18:28] hmm, where did Tm_T go? [18:37] Seveas: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/61148/ [18:37] heh [18:38] I'll make ubotu2 join #kubuntu-offtopic and use its annoyances [18:41] should work now [18:41] yep, does, thanks :) [18:41] 2008/03/26 19:41 MessResponder:1.186 fortune was called in #kubuntu-offtopic by jpatrick!n=jon@ubuntu/member/jpatrick with argument [19:55] ompaul: a full ban needed? [19:55] PriceChild, second dump [19:56] I pmed him to come here to explain a paste bin [19:56] hi Kadotus [19:56] hi. [19:56] you were given the following factoid [19:56] !paste [19:56] pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic) [19:56] I really, really don't know how to use pastebin. :D [19:56] click on that page [19:57] it is a web thing [19:57] Kadotus, it should explain itself [19:57] What do I put for syntax? [19:57] nothing [19:57] let it go [19:57] just dump your text there [19:58] and..? [19:58] click paste when you are done [19:58] you will get a new url that is what soundray wants in #ubuntu [19:58] tell me when you got it done [19:58] and give us the url [19:59] this is the url: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/61152/ [19:59] Kadotus, I will now remove your ban in #ubuntu [19:59] done [19:59] Kadotus, have a nice day [20:00] ompaul [20:00] I really don't understand, what do I do with the output the pastebin gives me. [20:00] you give the url in the channel [20:00] and they people can read that [20:01] you don't ever put more than two lines of text in the channel ;-) [20:01] Ok. It was too simple. Sorry, really, but I didn't know. [20:01] hehe [20:01] no problem we all had to learn at one time (mind you I think I am still learning ;-)) [20:01] :P [20:02] now you can head off from here have a good [20:02] day [20:02] thank you. [20:02] PriceChild, so what do you reckon? ;-) [20:23] i have a feeling the "messages sent while muted" count in the floodbot is not entirely right [20:24] *shrug* [20:24] LjL, I know this to be true [20:24] ;-0p [20:24] woops [20:24] :-0 [20:26] Seveas: I have just kicked ubuntu2776 from #k-of [20:26] #k-ot* [20:26] jpatrick, reason being? [20:26] trolling, swearing [20:27] k, not so much of that in #u-ot as far as I see [20:27] just a heads up [20:27] tx :) [21:03] LjL: there? [21:06] jpatrick: yes [21:06] LjL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/61166/ [21:06] hello everyone [21:07] kageshisi: please change your ident to join #ubuntu [21:07] !language [21:07] Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly. [21:07] how do i change that? using opera [21:08] jpatrick: that was pretty much out of the blue, right? [21:08] LjL: yeah.. [21:08] kageshisi, well, i don't know as i haven't used Opera recently, but its default ident is certainly not "fuck", so you must have known how to set it, at some stage :) [21:09] nalioth, please have a look at jpatrick's pastebin about "pleaseandthankyo". there is a similar occurrence in ##linux (the only one of the many channels he's in): [21:10] [22:07:44] why don't you kill people who are on good situations than people who are on bad? i know i have [21:10] and #defocus right now [21:10] and ##c++ [21:10] i meant, "the only one of the many channels he's in that i'm also in" [21:11] though actually no, i'm in #gentoo too, and there as well: [22:08:05] why don't you kill people who are on good situations than people who are on bad? i know i have [21:12] hmm, K:line-age [21:12] k-lined :) [21:37] is ljl around? [21:37] uhm, no [21:37] * LjL hides [21:38] i was wondering perhaps if my bans could be lifted today? [21:39] well no, i'm afraid that will have to wait. you behaved way too boldly i'm afraid. [21:39] * popey pokes Seveas [21:39] Seveas: why does mootbot run in CEST? Should it not run at UTC? [21:40] popey, where does Seveas live? [21:40] * ompaul says nothing [21:40] ;-) [21:40] irrelavent [21:40] well it should still run UTC [21:40] ubuntu meetings are always scheduled and publicised in UTC [21:40] 21:22:14 < MootBot> Meeting finished at 22:22. [21:40] ^ that just looks wrong [21:40] Seveas != server [21:41] I know your point - I just never thought of it in any other light [21:41] probably the code is bugged :) it should force UTC instead of using the system's locale [21:41] popey: sev doesn't run mootbot? [21:41] does he? [21:41] PriceChild, he might... the old host is no more [21:41] ohh [21:41] MrUnagi, is there anything else? [21:41] PriceChild: http://blackbird.kaarsemaker.net/mootbot/ [21:41] http://blackbird.kaarsemaker.net/mootbot/meeting/ubuntu-uk.20080326_2131.html is the logs and that name looks like it could be his [21:42] I stand corrected. [21:42] ljl how long should i wait [21:42] its been quite some time now [21:43] MrUnagi, we had a conversation on 3 march where i thought we had come to reasonable terms, then when i said that the ban wouldn't be lifted, you went mad in all sorts of ways. [21:44] i don't think the ban will be lifted before a couple of months [21:44] i was mad in all sorts of ways because i was accused of ban evading, and then mocked when explaining the situation [21:44] no [21:45] [Mon Mar 3 2008] [19:14:00] unagi: yes, the ban stays for some time regardless of what we say here, at this point. [21:45] *after* this. [21:45] i had returned in 2 days as requested when it was said that i had ban evaded in those 2 days [21:47] MrUnagi, the logs are, like, full of you, since late 2007 or possibly earlier. i'm sure you know about the proverbial last straw. the fact that you insulted me, went to #freenode to make a scene, and who knows what else, after - following a reasonable conversation - you were told that your ban "wouldn't be lifted for some time no matter what we'd say here" means, i'm afraid, that we're really out of straws. [21:48] if i hadnt been falsely accused of ban evading and THEN mocked when explaining the situation, i wouldnt have lost my temper [21:49] so i suppose what i am suggesting is that perhaps we could come to some sort of agreement that it has been quite a while already of my being banned [21:49] you had lost your temper earlier, you regained it while we were discussing on 3 march, then you definitely lost it again when i stated that your ban would stay for some time anyway. [21:49] I think we provided evidence to the ban evading iirc. [21:49] PriceChild, nevermind the ban evading, seriously. [21:49] there was no evidence provided of ban evading in the 2 day mark [21:49] k k [21:50] i had returned as requested after 2 days....this is when i was told i had ban evaded, this is when i was mocked [21:50] MrUnagi, there is evidence, it has been provided, and anyway that's irrelevant, because you were abusive in such a way that we cannot reasonably allow you back into the channels. [21:50] i have not been abusive to anyone in those channels, my outrages came after i had been wronged on more than one occasion [21:51] MrUnagi, you've been abusive enough to get yourself banned several times *in those channels*, and then you've been WAY MORE than abusive in other places. [21:51] we cannot, and won't, disregard that. [21:51] please stop insisting, and come back in about a year if you wish. [21:51] my bans were not based on abuse they were based on misunderstood codes of conduct [21:51] the bans thereafter occured because you laughed at me and banne dme from this channel when explaining that i did not ban evade [21:52] Why bring the CoC into this? [21:52] no. you're talking about before 3 march. i'm talking about after. [21:52] [Wed Mar 5 2008] [18:50:02] i didnt fucknig ban evande you piece of shit jackass [21:52] [Wed Mar 5 2008] [18:50:29] maybe if you were a good fucking op you would actually listen to people you piece of shit [21:52] this, for instance, is after. [21:52] please, stop wasting your time now. [21:52] after iw as wronged you are correct [21:52] after you falsely accused me of ban evading, laughing and mocking me when i tried to explain [21:52] you are 100% correct [21:53] i've explained that we had talked reasonably on 3 march, and *you* went out of your way when i said (reasonably) that i'd have to wait before lifting the ban, no matter how reasonably we were talking at the time. [21:53] but i think i'm going around in circles now, because it's - i think - the third time i say this. [21:53] there was no reasonable talking between you and i [21:54] i came in here talking reasonable after the 2 days as allotted [21:54] you then told me the ban would not be lifted because i ban evaded [21:54] if you do not allow people to talk reasonably then how can you expect people to talk resonably [21:55] how long of a ban satisfies your misjudgement on my ban evading [21:55] make it two years. [21:55] you have to be kidding me [21:56] four years? [21:56] make it an even five [21:56] MrUnagi, you weren't here when i said this: [21:56] [Mon Mar 3 2008] [19:27:10] i think unagi should be unbanned if he comes back asking nicely enough. [21:56] [Mon Mar 3 2008] [19:27:46] he got relatively reasonable. [21:56] unfortunately, you missed *that* boat, by behaving like a complete idiot. [21:56] EOD [21:57] Seveas, oddly enough [21:57] im banned for 4 years because you laughed at me and mocked me when i tried to explain that your accusation of my ban evading is incorrect? [21:57] i came in asking nicely after the 2 days that you alotted to my ban when you accused me of ban evading [21:57] how many wrongs do you expect a man to endure before he loses his temper [21:58] * PriceChild sighs [21:58] if he is a man he should not loose it [21:59] jpatrick called the ops in #ubuntu (Skinhed) [21:59] so seriously........4 years because you were incorrect in your judgement initially? [22:00] why isn't jpatrick op in #ubuntu? :) [22:00] Seveas: I think the council is voting or something.. [22:00] jpatrick, ah [22:00] they should vote faster :) [22:01] and *damn* AfterDeath has a massive away message in his away_hilight_notice.pl [22:01] jpatrick, paste in pm :) [22:01] MrUnagi: *sigh* i was not incorrect. you *admitted* the ban evader was you. now go away. [22:01] i NEVER said that i ban evaded [22:01] and you cannot prove otherwise [22:02] Seveas: ok, not that big, it just looked huge in small terminal box [22:02] heh [22:02] i have always maintained that this is a business connection....and that i personally never was on irc in those 2 days [22:02] what did it highlight on? [22:02] is that or is that not in the logs [22:02] on the !o.ps? [22:02] yeah [22:02] gonna kick him for that [22:02] PriceChild, do you happen to have the evidence handy? [22:03] Seveas: I've even stopped hilight-ing !o.ps because of the script [22:04] mrt 07 23:56:41 nalioth: i understand that i evaded the ban on the kline im not denying that [22:04] that would be after the fact [22:04] thank you Seveas, that's one, although i was thinking of a couple of others [22:04] yeah, was just a quick'n'dirty grep [22:04] this is exactly my point you cannot follow what i am saying [22:05] look for the day 2 days after you said i was banned for 2 days [22:05] the day you mocked and ridiculed me [22:05] MrUnagi, that's because you've been trolling for so long, with so many nicknames, that our logs are stuffed with your trolling. [22:05] what nicks.... [22:05] waynrdude? camserver? evo? [22:05] nicks that arent mine? [22:05] yes, thank you! [22:06] thats exactly my point [22:06] to this day you still think that i ban evaded [22:06] s/think/know/ [22:06] this is a business connection.... [22:06] i have said this before [22:06] MrUnagi: one moment, please. [22:06] there are other employees here that use irc to find answers [22:06] #kubuntu: [Wed Mar 5 2008] [01:29:20] <----------camserver [22:06] i understand.......that was mentioned before [22:07] my mistake was allowing my laptop to be open and used [22:07] i have tried to explain that [22:08] MrUnagi: hmm, kde comes with good screen locking stuff [22:08] MrUnagi, that's standard troll excuse #7 [22:08] look i understand after the 5th i made alot of mistakes all i am asking is that it be understood that march 3 4 and 5 i was never on irc....it is one big misunderstanding [22:08] and we don't buy it [22:08] nalioth, "skinhed" gave his poetry in #gentoo as well as #ubuntu [22:08] MrUnagi, i don't believe a word of what you say, especially since you have *said* camserver was you. [22:08] just because you dont buy it doesnt make it not true..... [22:08] MrUnagi, let's see if we have a deal [22:09] MrUnagi, and iirc you said earlier they used different pcs [22:09] the deal is, you will be unbanned in 8 years. [22:09] ok? [22:09] please be resonable [22:09] no, we've had enough. [22:09] now we wait for this one [22:10] mrt 05 19:40:18 --> mrunagi_ (n=mrunagi@68-243-10-229.area7.spcsdns.net) has joined #ubuntu-ops [22:10] Seveas: and hawaiiantel, and...... [22:10] ohh now there is interesting [22:10] ompaul: NO, it's not who you think it is :) [22:10] spell the letter k [22:10] LjL, ok [22:10] hello azexian what can we do for you [22:11] azexian, how can we help you? [22:11] you can't, keep up the good work =) [22:11] err, right. [22:11] .. [22:11] \? [22:12] Jberg88, how can i help you? [22:12] [23:11:38] can you please explain to me why i am being treated so poorly please [22:12] [23:11:51] i have. i will not reply to your messages further. [22:12] LjL: yep [22:12] LjL: Looks fair enough [22:12] well I think i need to get a test but i know it will crash [22:12] Jberg88, then fix it first :) [22:13] I tried many times last night [22:13] Jberg88, what client are you using? [22:13] Jberg88: What port are you connected on? [22:13] I am on a Mac using colloquy [22:13] port 8001 [22:14] Jberg88, ah you're the colloquy guy? [22:14] yes yes I am [22:14] Jberg88: well i've never used that client, and i can't try it out either [22:14] its ok [22:14] Jberg88: i can only tell you that *every* exploit victim we've seen has fixed it by connecting to 8001, so i think your client must be ignoring the port setting, or something [22:14] Jberg88: open up a terminal please [22:15] its oken [22:15] open [22:15] Jberg88: now, let's just hope this is the correct syntax on a Mac too... type « sudo netstat -p | grep irc » [22:16] LjL, a bash shell can be installed [22:16] dont think it needs sudo [22:16] nalioth, got any ideas here? [22:16] LjL: mac has 90% of the same as ubuntu [22:17] try xchat-aqua [22:17] What now [22:17] nalioth: I am picky I will try a little more before using it [22:18] Jberg88: well, what does that command say? [22:18] netstat: option requires an argument -- p [22:18] and it gives me options on usage [22:18] Jberg88: try without the -p [22:19] nothing happened [22:19] Jberg88: try « sudo netstat | grep freenode » then [22:19] tcp4 0 0 bcvpn45.bc.edu.49544 kubrick.freenode.vcom- ESTABLISHED [22:20] reply path ... [22:20] ompaul: huh? [22:20] Jberg88: argh, that doesn't show the port >: [22:21] netstat -n will [22:21] netstat -n | grep 64.161.254.20 [22:21] Seveas: it's more like that the column gets cut... but yeah i suppose the IP + numeric port will fit [22:21] tcp4 0 0 136.167.17.45.49544 64.161.254.20.8001 ESTABLISHED [22:22] Jberg88: so it seems that you're actually connected to the right port [22:22] Jberg88, so your client should be ok and your router not trouble yuou [22:22] Jberg88: mind if i test you now? [22:22] LjL, test him please [22:22] please test me [22:22] someone should test him [22:22] uhm [22:22] probably colloqui is broken [22:22] he quit 7 seconds after i tested him [22:23] Jberg88, you quit 7 seconds after i tested you [22:23] once more there LjL [22:23] Could be a overzealous router closing the connecting [22:23] that's not typical of the exploit that we know [22:23] failed [22:23] Pici, not on 8001 really [22:23] Pici: and not after 7 seconds [22:23] LjL, must have been the test that was sent as last? [22:23] 8001 should be robust [22:23] LjL: hence the overzealousness [22:23] CTCP PING is 1 second [22:23] LjL, it does send several variants, right? [22:23] Seveas, PM [22:23] LjL so can i go into ubuntu now? [22:24] apparently not [22:24] Jberg88, no, because you failed the test... however we need to investigate this [22:24] this time he quit after 5 seconds [22:25] Jberg88, could you try another IRC client? [22:25] Jberg88, i really would be glad if you could try connecting using another client, such as xchat-aqua that nalioth mentioned, or something else available for Mac [22:25] ok deleting this crap [22:25] download x-chat [22:26] Jberg88: actually, could you just try something quick and dirty for me, please? [22:26] Jberg88: type « telnet irc.freenode.net 8001 » in a shell [22:26] Jberg88: then type (you need to do this a bit quickly) [22:26] 1) USER jberg jberg jberg jberg [22:26] in a shell????? [22:26] 2) NICK jberg88-- [22:27] 3) JOIN #ubuntu-ops [22:27] yes, in a console, terminal [22:27] oh ok [22:28] without the 1) 2) 3), mind! [22:28] yeah I know [22:29] keeps closing the connection [22:29] hold on [22:29] then you're not fast enough ;) [22:29] Jberg88, you need to type that fairly quickly, no more than 15 seconds or so [22:29] ok [22:29] copy and paste perhaps [22:29] Yeah [22:30] woooooooooooooooow [22:30] hahah [22:30] hah [22:31] Jberg88, i've just tested Jberg88--, and it's not vulnerable. so it must be your client's fault... [22:31] oh cool [22:31] that's cool [22:31] yup, tested it as well [22:31] !exploit [22:31] There are people around who think it is funny to abuse a bug in certain routers by sending invalid DCC commands. When bitten by this bug ops in #ubuntu remove users so they are no longer targets. To fix it have a look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixDCCExploit [22:31] adding to that page [22:32] adding what?> [22:32] well I tried that link before [22:32] removing this Client [22:32] thanks guys [22:33] argh [22:33] when i wanna join #ubuntu [22:33] i can't [22:33] -ChanServ- [##unavailable] You've tried to join an unavailable channel. [22:33] i get this, why ? [22:33] marko-_-: i'll fix this immediately. [22:33] ok [22:33] but could you tell what happened ? i'm currious [22:34] marko-_-: you happen to have a nickname and ident pattern that was banned today, due to being abused by spammers [22:34] marko-_-: you can join now [22:34] ok [22:34] thaNks [22:34] thanks* [22:36] jberg88_, it's honestly not clear to me how one reports bugs for Colloquy, although it must be something here: http://colloquy.info/project - you may want to join #colloquy on this network and investigate [22:36] jberg88_: are you on another client now, and on port 8001? [22:37] no [22:37] trying to get my password [22:37] I forgot it [22:37] :P [22:38] Jberg88_, if you've given an email address when you registered, then you can ask for a new password to be sent to it, if you really can't remember it [22:38] the thing has blocker bugs from 2005, I assume that development is slow [22:40] oh. [22:41] need to register before you can submit a bug [22:41] can't be arsed [22:43] hey [22:43] heya [22:43] using X-Chat [22:43] connected to port 8001? [22:43] yeah [22:44] try the 'test me' in #ubuntu-read-topic [22:45] can you see what i got? [22:45] yeah, you passed :) [22:45] sweet I am in now! [22:45] welcome back to #ubuntu :) [22:45] thank YOU! [22:45] thank you for pointing out this broken client to us ;) [22:45] now to set my password -.- [22:45] LjL: my pleasure [22:46] Jberg88: you don't quite remember it, or can manage to get it from colloquy? [22:46] I got it from colloquy [22:46] but when i enter it it says wrong password [22:47] Jberg88: when you enter it where? try simply typing « /msg nickserv identify yourpassword » (in a non-channel window!) [22:48] I don't know how to open a non channel window here [22:48] Jberg88: well then type it in the channel, just make sure you put no spaces before the /, or we see the password [22:49] yeah password is incorrect [22:50] Jberg88: well, did you set an email address when you registered? if you didn't, you won't have much luck i'm afraid [22:50] I did set an email [22:51] night all [22:51] Jberg88: then join #freenode and ask to have your password reset [22:53] ompaul, learn to ban >: [22:53] hey guys how do I make xchat open these channels as I log in [22:54] Jberg88: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XChatHowto - "Settings for network" [22:55] thanks you've helped me a lot today THANKS!!! [23:03] Jberg88: ca va? [23:03] oui [23:04] Jberg88: pas de problemes au jour d'hui, ou ...? [23:04] J'utilise x-chat maitenant [23:04] colostupid had a bug [23:05] d'accord. il travail hokay? [23:05] tres bien [23:05] parfait [23:05] J'aime x-chat plus que colostupid [23:07] oui, c'est une meillieur client [23:07] j'suis daccord