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bellkana_	Flannel & Slart: Thanks for your help but I could not find anyone there. I guess I will wait till the voluntary translator positions become available...	00:00
term_	better yet. is there a way to hide eterm from showing up in the taskbar	00:00
D\|sToRt\|oN	I got it :D the r00 files are an incomplete download	00:00
J1m	During install of 64-bit 7.10, "Setting up the partitioner" hangs (as in the systen) at 50% "Scanning disks". Does anyone have any idea what I should try next?	00:01
Svenstaro	anybody know a good python IDE?	00:01
daedra	Svenstaro: vim	00:02
dn4ia	apparently there is already a lives.deb	00:02
dn4ia	package out there	00:02
dn4ia	so compliing from source is not nessary	00:02
dn4ia	wOOOT!	00:02
azexia2	Svenstaro: try idle first, for an editor, i quite like scite, as it auto indents, which is a useful feature for python	00:02
D\|sToRt\|oN	DCLXIV where did you come up with that nick	00:02
Svenstaro	daedra, heh so thought I, I just like debugger and compiler integration to compliment my workflow	00:02
dn4ia	http://www.getdeb.net/app.php?name=lives	00:03
Svenstaro	anybody use or used Eric Python? looks promising	00:03
daedra	ooh whats Eric Python?	00:03
Svenstaro	http://ericide.python-hosting.com/	00:03
Svenstaro	have a look, it looks good to me at least	00:03
irelinquish	its free advertising	00:03
irelinquish	lmao	00:04
tripps	could someone please help me with my sdcard reader on my shuttle pc? it worked fine until today	00:04
Lunks	I'm having trouble enabling USB devices on VirtualBox.	00:04
azexia2	Lunks: may i suggest you try the virtualbox irc channel, for more specific help?	00:05
danand__	Lunks - you using the vbox in the repositories?	00:05
Lunks	azexia2: There is help for a lot of Linux distros, but not for Ubuntu	00:05
Lunks	danand__: no, I need help actually changing mountdevsubfs.sh file	00:06
azexia2	Lunks: ok, don't think i'm pushing you away, if it's a ubuntu specific issue then by all means, ask here :d	00:06
Lunks	azexia2: ok, I need to enable user access do usbfs	00:06
Lunks	=)	00:06
Lunks	On Ubuntu.	00:06
Lunks	to*	00:06
Belboz92	Hey all, I'm trying to modprobe lirc_serial, but it keeps on erroring out with "device or resource busy", any ideas?	00:06
warriorforgod	I have a virtual machine that has about 10 GB of free space at the end of the virtual hard drive. How can I shrink the disk to get rid of that empty space?	00:07
azexia2	Lunks: you can add any user to any group using the usermod command	00:07
endo_	im trying to follow this:https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Belkin_F5D7050_ver_3000_%28Ralink_rt73_driver%29?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDevice%29	00:07
CMind	rryan: Do you know if there is a way to add an X offset of 1240 to my "above" screen?	00:07
endo_	but im reciving make errors	00:07
rodrigth	warriorofgod: what program did you use to create the VM?	00:07
azexia2	Lunks: just make sure you're root	00:07
endo_	can someone help me please?	00:07
warriorforgod	rodrigth: VMware server 1.04 under ubuntu 7.10	00:07
h4L1m	hello, are there any versions of wengophone what are working with msn?	00:07
rahmen	What's the difference between "glxinfo -display :0" and "glxinfo -display :1" ??? Different displays? Can I control both in Xorg.conf?	00:08
Lunks	azexia2: There's no group for usbfs	00:08
Belboz92	endo_: what's the error? (One line only please)	00:08
basotl	Lunks create it and make your self a member.	00:08
endo_	Belboz92: /home/justin/Random/RT73_Linux_STA_Drv1.0.3.6/Module/rtmp_def.h:832: error: expected identifier or ‘(’ before ‘{’ token	00:09
endo_	that is one of them	00:09
h4L1m	anyone who knows wengophone and can tell me how to do it work with msn?	00:09
Lunks	basotl: an 'usbfs' group?	00:09
basotl	Lunks in addition there is good USB Ubuntu info for Virtualbox here: http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/User_FAQ	00:09
endo_	Belboz92: /home/justin/Random/RT73_Linux_STA_Drv1.0.3.6/Module/oid.h:312: warning: data definition has no type or storage class	00:09
endo_	is another	00:09
who_	I'm trying to set up my Ubuntu box as a wireless router. I seem to be failing at the first step (no other computers see the wireless network! - the card _is_ in master mode) it is a broadcom 4306	00:09
jonathanrivers	users	00:10
Lunks	basotl: "and the device entries below should be accessible by any user"	00:10
tripps	could someone please help me with my sdcard reader on my shuttle pc? it worked fine until today.	00:10
Lunks	basotl: that's the part I'm missing. :P	00:10
azexia2	Lunks: groupadd usbfs then open system --> administration --> groups and you can add yourself there, throught the gui	00:10
rodrigth	warriorofgod: sry, no exp with vmware server	00:10
Solomani	good moaning	00:10
daedra	virtualbox	00:10
daedra	oops	00:10
azexia2	tripps: what happened yesterday?	00:10
J1m	During install of 64-bit 7.10, "Setting up the partitioner" hangs (as in the systen) at 50% "Scanning disks". Does anyone have any idea what I should try next?	00:10
endo_	Belboz92: can you help me out?	00:10
Belboz92	endo_ you might want to try a different version of that driver, it looks like that driver might have a bug	00:10
jonathanrivers	has anyone booted hh via bootcamp? running smooth?	00:11
bellkana_	Flannel: As you told me I went there but nobody is responding so I came back. I guess I have to wait till any voluntary translator positions become avail.	00:11
tripps	azexia2, it would automount the disk and a prompt asking me if i wanted to import the photos. now it does nothing. no /var/log/messages, nothing at all	00:11
endo_	Belboz92: I think there might be some newer ones	00:11
blazquez	hello to everybody....ubunteros	00:11
azexia2	endo_: did you change anything yesterday?	00:11
endo_	azexia2: change anything yesterday? no	00:12
tripps	azexia2, only thing that happened was a reboot and a couple of unrelated package updates	00:12
hypnodok	Im having troubles with the totem video player, I could try to describe it but screenshots tend to speak more than words: http://www.abload.de/img/bluemanut6.png the shown video is an mpeg4 ones but the blue skin is a general issue, any ideas?	00:12
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hypnodok	one*	00:12
basotl	Lunks in addition to creating the user permissions did you edit the file: /etc/init.d/mountdevsubfs.sh	00:12
Lunks	basotl: edit to...?	00:13
rodrigth	1m: try to install by typing: sudo ubiquity	00:13
Lunks	basotl: I enabled it	00:13
rodrigth	1m: into terminal	00:13
azexia2	tripps: i'm not to sure on that one, if it picks up nothing in dmesg then you probably have a broken sdcard/sdcard reader, perhaps try the sd card in another sdcard reader, or try another sdcard	00:13
tripps	azexia2, it's built into the box, probably using an internal usb host. all other ports work fine, and it worked fine for months before this morning	00:14
ArthurArchnix	rodrigth: sudo install	00:14
rahmen	What's the difference between "glxinfo -display :0" and "glxinfo -display :1" ??? Different displays? Can I control both in Xorg.conf?	00:14
rodrigth	Arthur: no longer using ubiquity?	00:14
tripps	azexia2, i will check the bios however; there was an issue booting up this morning in that the time was way off (10/2004).	00:15
azexia2	tripps: if it worked before, and you haven't changed anything package wise then it's probably a hardware fault, if nothing is coming up, you could try it in the ubuntu live cd, or if you have a spare, use a different sdcard reader to test the sdcards	00:15
Belboz92	hey, I'm still stuck with modprobe: FATAL: Error inserting lirc_serial (/lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/ubuntu/media/lirc/lirc_serial/lirc_serial.ko): Device or resource busy	00:15
ArthurArchnix	rodrigth: just adding install	00:15
azexia2	tripps: ok	00:15
rodrigth	Arthur: ah, thanx	00:15
ArthurArchnix	rodrigth: oops	00:15
ArthurArchnix	rodrigth: I'm dumb :) ... sudo apt-get install *	00:15
azexia2	Belboz92: try sudo modprobe lirc_serial	00:16
ArthurArchnix	rodrigth: and replace * with whatever you want to install	00:16
tripps	azexia2, i was shutting the machine down gracefully this morning when the power went off in the middle of the shut down. i wonder if that foobared something	00:16
azexia2	Belboz92: if you are not already =)	00:16
Belboz92	azexia2: That is what I ran it with	00:16
azexia2	tripps: that doesn't sound so great, there's always something, i myself always hope it's the software, but when it's something like that, it normally isn't although you can try a live cd just in case if you wish	00:16
rahmen	What does "As a result, I get two X sessions (as expected, Xorg on :0 and Xgl on :1)" mean in the first post here? http://ubuntu-utah.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=569654&highlight=600m+gutsy My display :0 has direct rendering, while my display :1 doesn't.. how come? can I make both use direct rendering? can I switch to display :0 when I want to play games?	00:17
azexia2	Belboz92: ok, try doing that without the ir inserted	00:17
tripps	azexia2, wilco thx	00:17
ArthurArchnix	rodrigth: should be back soon to tell me my nonsensical command doesn't work, then I can give the correct one. :P	00:17
bellkana_	I guess I will ask one more time. Are there any voluntary translator positions of such as Ubuntu's help/tech/doc from Eng to JP and/or JP to Eng?	00:17
azexia2	tripps: np =)	00:17
twointo1	what causes squashfs errors when booting livecd? I can run it on my laptop, but not my desktop?	00:18
Belboz92	azexia2: thanks for trying, but that didn't work either :(	00:18
unop	bellkana_, you can also approach the gnome or kde projects -- see if they need any help with translating	00:18
Belboz92	azexia2: I've also stopped lircd and removed the other lirc modules in case they were conflicting	00:19
azexia2	Belboz92: hmm... that is an odd error, device busy tends to mean that it can't remove, the fact that it cant modprobe, glance at dmesg, does it have another module confilicting perhaps? just dmesg \| tail to see the last few lines	00:19
Svenstaro	anybody got a good vim cheat sheet? :>	00:19
rodrigth	ArthurArchnix: lol was trying to help someone with a problem installing 64bit gutsy	00:19
azexia2	Belboz92: you were to quick for me =)	00:19
j3kyll	i've installed libdvdcss2 and still can't play dvd's	00:19
azexia2	Belboz92: is there nothing in dmesg?	00:20
rodrigth	azexia2: any error message shown?	00:20
Belboz92	azexia2: sorry [ 1544.766432] lirc_serial: port 02f8 already in use	00:20
ecuaman	#openbravo-es	00:20
ArthurArchnix	rodrigth: Well... then that leaves me doubly confused. As you're unlikely to need help apt-get installing.	00:20
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azexia2	Belboz92: is that a serial device?	00:21
* ArthurArchnix retreats to corner, hides.		00:21
h4L1m	no one can help me with wengophone? i write to my contact's in msn but they didn't get it, what can i do?	00:21
Belboz92	azexia2: I don't know what port 02f8 is, is there any way I can find out what's using it?	00:21
rodrigth	ArthurArchnix: ??? didn't ask for help with apt-get	00:21
unop	Svenstaro, you can use my vim search engine - http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=010944265582273573158%3Aiv4-w8mhmdc&hl=en	00:21
eix	my installation was interrupted during the update-grub stage (or right after it) because of power down. What installation steps am I missing now? :( please help me	00:21
azexia2	Belboz92: sounds like an irq conflict to me, is the bios seutp to do it manually?	00:21
Belboz92	azexia2: the only other serial device I can think of the mouse	00:22
ArthurArchnix	rodrigth: Just ignore me. I appear to not be making any sense tonight. Apologies.	00:22
mysticalone	I'm getting a blue screen when I use GRUB to boot vista, whats wrong with my settings?	00:22
Svenstaro	unop will try	00:22
bellkana_	Unop: Thank you for your advice. I will try them now! I just wanna help. I thought Ubuntu would be the one since it is souta becoming famous in JP....	00:22
endo_	Belboz92: /usr/src/rt2570-1.1.0-b2/Module/rtusb_main.c:1905: error: ‘dev_base’ undeclared (first use in this function)	00:22
Belboz92	azexia2: no, it doesn't but I think I'll check that again	00:22
vijay	wht is the name of the music application in this screenshot???? http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Underworld+theme?content=36554	00:22
endo_	Belboz92: getting that now	00:22
azexia2	Belboz92: right, but lots of things get irqs, every device in fact, although unless you have made all the devices manual irq, that soundn't happen...	00:22
j3kyll	can anyone help me with dvd problems?	00:23
rodrigth	ArthurArchnix: lol, no big deal, this channel can be hard to follow! so much at once	00:23
ingo_	hallo all! i wish to know how i can get a email after system-backup with sbackup on gutsy ? please help me	00:23
Lokii-	who uses serial mice still ?	00:23
Belboz92	azexia2: I don't believe I did, I'm pretty darn sure	00:23
CMind	anyone know how I could add a 1240 offset to my second display ("BigDisplay") here is my current config: http://pastebin.com/d1ce14cf8	00:23
Lokii-	i don't even have serial ports on my last 5pc's	00:23
unop	bellkana_, thing is ubuntu derives most of it's work from other projects, and your contributions to them might benefit more people and other projects too	00:23
rodrigth	azexia2: oops meant to talk to j3kyll	00:23
bodyright	hi	00:23
who_	okay - any idea why my macbook (running OSX) can't see the network I think my Ubuntu Computer is providing? It is a broadcom card in master mode, and it is up, but I can't see any network...	00:24
azexia2	Belboz92: i may be pulling on threads here, but that does sound like a conflict...	00:24
eix	is there anything else after the update-grub install stage?	00:24
ingo_	please help: i wish to know how i can get a email after system-backup with sbackup on gutsy	00:25
ecuaman	hello	00:26
azexia2	!hi	00:26
ubotu	Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!	00:26
bellkana_	Unop: Thank you again! I will contact them and see if they need it! Thank you for your time:)	00:26
ecuaman	thanx	00:26
tonyyarusso	Hi, I need some help with NAT transversal. Computer "Alice" is on an internal university network behind NAT. Computer "Bob" is outside of that, and sees Alice's hostname as just the public WAN IP of the school. I want to be able to connect from Bob to Alice, via SSH. I have no control over open ports, port forwarding, etc. on the university network of course. What can I do?	00:26
J1m	hello	00:26
J1m	hi	00:27
J1m	hola	00:27
wpk	tonyyarusso: create tunnel from Alice to Bob	00:27
wpk	using any nat-transversing solution	00:27
tonyyarusso	wpk: Such as? I only know some of the terms, not the actual software or how to use it.	00:27
CMind	tonyyarusso: do you know iptables?	00:27
wpk	CMind: iptables won't help him.	00:28
masmota	theres always reverse connect	00:28
masmota	but then someone on the other side still has to initiate	00:28
tonyyarusso	CMind: Not really (yet), although I really should.	00:28
wpk	tonyyarusso: vtun, openvpn, even simple ssh with -R (reverse port forwarding)	00:28
unop	tonyyarusso, http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_SSH_Reverse_Tunnel	00:29
CMind	wpk: oh, miss readed... tunnel is your answer	00:29
tonyyarusso	masmota: That would be an option, but sub-ideal.	00:29
tonyyarusso	wpk: I've heard good things about openvpn.	00:29
arrow	I changed the resolution on stratagus to 1600x1200x0 and I need to change it back, can someone tell me how to without playing the game.	00:30
amenado	tonyyarusso-> is there any host within the university you can ssh in?	00:30
CMind	tonyyarusso: you may take a look to pptp too	00:30
tonyyarusso	amenado: Nope.	00:30
amenado	tonyyarusso-> what ports does the university allows in?	00:31
tonyyarusso	CMind: "PPTP is difficult to forward past a network firewall because it requires two network sessions." - that doesn't sound good	00:31
guestbuntu55	I cant install a driver.	00:32
tonyyarusso	amenado: Not sure - I've only really seen the outbound. Clearly 80 will be open at some levels, since they have a web site, but likely not much else.	00:32
lufis	is kde 4.0 included in gutsy's repos?	00:32
CMind	tonyyarusso: encapsulate it through ssl?	00:32
tonyyarusso	amenado: I suppose I could do a portmap to find out.	00:32
guestbuntu55	ati-driver-installer-8-3-x86.x86_64.run	00:32
guestbuntu55	how do I install "ati-driver-installer-8-3-x86.x86_64.run"	00:33
pingu	ne one know why i can save a .doc to my external on ubuntu and take it to a windows comp and it wont open	00:33
unop	tonyyarusso, is there a way you can get alice to ssh to bob?	00:33
amenado	tonyyarusso-> in that case if only port 80 is open or allowed in/out -- the connection will have to be initiated from the inside.	00:33
tonyyarusso	unop: that can be done, yes.	00:33
Pelo	guestbuntu55, sudo ./filenamehere.run	00:34
guestbuntu55	ok	00:34
tonyyarusso	amenado: I see. Now, if 22 is open, how would I use that to my advantage without an IP to use?	00:34
earl	!hardy	00:34
ubotu	Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu	00:34
masmota	lol set up a batch script to initiate reverse connect, and cron it every ten minutes... you may have to wait a while on your shell, but eh	00:35
guestbuntu55	Pelo: sudo: ./ati-driver-installer-8-3-x86_64.run: command not found	00:35
CMind	tonyyarusso: Can't Alice connect outside to a VPN server instead of trying to break in the NAT ?	00:35
tonyyarusso	masmota: That's not a bad idea...	00:35
tonyyarusso	CMind: could you elaborate?	00:35
Pelo	guestbuntu55, you need to cd to the folder where it is located first	00:35
mrpoundsign	anyone happen to know, offhand, how to make rsync give a transfer progress? Seems the --progress gives you a per-file progress, not an entire progress transfer status.	00:35
guestbuntu55	Pelo: And By Cd to it you mean?	00:36
masmota	or you could always install an irc bot... set it on a server somewhere and issue cmds remotely	00:36
CMind	tonyyarusso: cron job a deamon to check vpn state and connect to your vpn server... or meabe a simple deamon that "keep alive" the connection	00:36
amenado	tonyyarusso-> it has to have an ip address.. its most likely you have to log on to the intermediate host in the university then towards alice	00:36
unop	tonyyarusso, if alice can connect to bob, you can get alice to create a tunnel so that sockets are open on bob - you on bob just interact with those sockets	00:36
Pelo	guestbuntu55, I didn'T say Cd I said cd , linux is case sensitive, and I mean change folder	00:36
tim	How do i check the date that my VIDEO driver was made ?	00:36
tonyyarusso	masmota: IRC bots are also an option, but I don't know what they would be doing. I'm somewhat familiar with supybot, if that helps.	00:36
guestbuntu55	ok	00:36
guestbuntu55	Pelo: OK	00:36
tim	tonyyarusso, How do i check the date that my VIDEO driver was made ?	00:37
FantomZx	зароботок http://www.kolotibablo.com/?ref=45139	00:37
tonyyarusso	amenado: right, but I don't have a logon for the intermediate host.	00:37
CMind	tonyyarusso: maybe the NAT wont let pass some traffic... you may consider encapsulate your VPN connection through 443 (SSL)	00:37
unop	CMind, he has no access to routers or server on the university network tho	00:38
CMind	unop: no needs	00:38
amenado	tonyyarusso-> im going to defer to the experts, i have to leave for now...	00:38
mysticalone	How can I see a map of my drives	00:38
tonyyarusso	amenado: 'k, thanks	00:38
CMind	unop: as long as "Alice" have access to the internet (some port)	00:38
douglas_	s	00:39
tonyyarusso	CMind: that we definitely have.	00:39
Pelo	mysticalone, depends on what you mean, there is a disc analyser in the acessories menu or youcan see fil bars in the last tab of the system monitor in the admin menu	00:39
unop	CMind, if he has no need, and can successfully connect to a host inside - what he can do amounts to a network infiltration -- and i seriously doubt thats possible	00:39
Sylphid	could someone point me in the right direction for mounting a logical partition ?	00:40
guestbuntu55	Pelo: sudo: /home/christopher/ati-driver-installer-8-3-x86.x86_64.run: command not found	00:40
CMind	tonyyarusso: find out a place with a static ip or a configured dyn-dns and install your pptp or openvpn server there. then connect alice to it. You will have a both way connection through the univiersity network ;)	00:40
jose__	hola	00:40
Pelo	Sylphid, mount same as anyother partiton sudo mount /dev/??? /mountpoint	00:40
poseidon01	Is there a program to tell you what kind of reutor your using judging from your wireless connection alone?	00:40
guestbuntu55	Pelo: sudo: /home/christopher/ati-driver-installer-8-3-x86.x86_64.run: command not found	00:41
CMind	tonyyarusso: some IDS / active firewall may flag that kind of traffic but, in my point of view, it's the way to go	00:41
unop	CMind, it's easier if alice just connects to bob	00:41
bmac_	I'm having a problem with my resolution, can anyone help	00:41
Pelo	guestbuntu55, type ls , that will list the fles , see if you can actualy see it in the folder	00:41
Pelo	bmac_, state the problem	00:41
CMind	unop: if bob have a static ip	00:41
tonyyarusso	CMind: Mostly following.	00:41
dv2000	has anyone gotten civilization four running on hefty through wine?	00:41
dv2000	i am having some trouble	00:41
Sylphid	Pelo: i cant seem to locate the device all that exists is sda1(/boot) and sda2 which is fs type LVM2_member	00:42
unop	CMind, errm, if i understand right, he is sitting at bob, so he can tell alice what his IP is	00:42
guestbuntu55	Pelo: It's not in that list.	00:42
Pelo	Sylphid, try typing blkid in the terminal	00:42
CMind	tonyyarusso: basicly you need a pptp or openvpn server that you can reach. install your tunnel (pptp/openvpn) server on it and connect alice to it	00:42
tonyyarusso	CMind: well, bob doesn't have a static IP, but a third machine "Charlie" that I have access to does.	00:42
bmac_	I'm running an nvidia card on a screen that should put out 1440X900 but it will only put out a frontend resolution of 1024X786	00:42
Pelo	guestbuntu55, then you are in the wrong folder	00:42
tonyyarusso	CMind: Okay, I'll look into that a bit more.	00:43
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Pelo	guestbuntu55, put the file on your desktop and type cd Desktop in the terminal , and remember linux is CASE SENSITIVE	00:43
CMind	tonyyarusso: connect the three together ;)	00:43
tonyyarusso	CMind: right	00:43
Sylphid	Pelo: only reports /boot	00:43
guestbuntu55	Pelo: What Folder does need to be in	00:43
Pelo	Sylphid, are you sure you have a logical partioon on that hdd ?	00:43
j3kyll	i've installed libdvdcss2 and my dvd player is still not working. whats wrong?	00:44
guestbuntu55	Pelo: Never Mind. It is in the list. Now what.	00:44
Pelo	guestbuntu55, put it on the desktop , in linux that is also a folder	00:44
CMind	tonyyarusso: try googling "pptp through ssl"	00:44
guestbuntu55	Pelo: Never Mind. It is in the list. Now what?	00:44
Sylphid	Pelo: yes, not sure if this matters or not but I am currently booting from a live cd	00:44
jin	any one uses stardict?	00:44
randy_	Is there a good gamecube emulator for gutsy? If so, how to install?	00:44
Pelo	guestbuntu55, ok sudo ./filenname.run didn't work, try this sudo chmod +x filename.run , then try sudo ./filename.run again	00:45
mysticalone	I have Ubuntu on /dev/sda3/ and I have Vista on /dev/hdc1, would vista be hd(2,0) ?	00:45
Pelo	Sylphid, that might be an issue, open gparted, that should also automount all the available partitons on your desktp	00:45
j3kyll	i've installed libdvdcss2 and my dvd player is still not working. whats wrong?	00:45
Sylphid	kk	00:46
scenetex	quit	00:46
unop_	tonyyarusso, i hope you got my previous message before i got disconnected	00:46
guestbuntu55	Pelo: It worked	00:46
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tonyyarusso	unop_: erm, maybe not.	00:46
guestbuntu55	G2G	00:46
randy_	how do I copy something to /usr/bin (permission denied)?	00:46
unop_	tonyyarusso, this might work -- from alice "ssh -R 2048:localhost:22 bob" -- at bob "ssh -p 2048 localhost" -- and that should take you back to alice	00:46
bmac_	I'm running an nvidia card on a screen that should put out 1440X900 but it will only put out a frontend resolution of 1024X786... is there a sudo to let me reconfig the max X server resolution?	00:46
guestbuntu55	BYE	00:46
guestbuntu55	bye	00:46
Pelo	j3kyll, libdvdcss2 is just one of the files you need to install , review the instructions in the !dvd	00:46
poseidon01	How can I find the MAC address of my reutor from my computer?	00:47
kindofabuzz_	anyone know a good apache how to. i got it installed just don't know what to do now =)	00:47
tonyyarusso	unop_: sounds right	00:47
drc	j3kyll-> have you tried https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs ?	00:47
Pelo	kindofabuzz_, there is a #apache channel	00:47
kindofabuzz_	!apache	00:47
ubotu	LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)	00:47
daedra	how would I make a session of irssi start at xinit?	00:47
unop_	daedra, place the irssi command into ~/.xinitrc perhaps?	00:48
bmac_	I'm running an nvidia card on a screen that should put out 1440X900 but it will only put out a frontend resolution of 1024X786... is there a sudo to let me reconfig the max X server resolution?	00:48
daedra	unop_: you got it... but in what format?	00:48
Sylphid	poseidon01: arp <ip>	00:48
tonyyarusso	daedra: you'll want to do it within screen to be useful, using the -dm switch to screen iirc. (definitely -d, maybe the -m)	00:48
daedra	unop_: surely irssi wouldn't spawn inside a gnome-terminal?!	00:48
Svenstaro	unop your search engine owns :)	00:48
Pelo	bmac_, check in synaptic there is a nvidia-settings packages to let you do stuff like that	00:48
CMind	bmac_: take a look to your /etc/X11/xorg.conf	00:49
daedra	tonyyarusso: got an example?	00:49
unop_	daedra, depends on the shell that ~/.xinitrc runs under -- check the shebang line -- gnome-terminal -e "irssi .."	00:49
tonyyarusso	daedra: Nope - it'll swawm in a /bin/sh, which is useless.	00:49
randy_	how do I gain permission to write something to my /usr/bin folder?	00:49
tonyyarusso	daedra: Not handy at the moment - I did it once, but that was over a year ago. However, I did mine with a @reboot in cron.	00:49
unop_	Svenstaro, yea, some effort has gone into that search engine :)	00:49
bmac_	Pelo, that nvidia tool isn't giving me results	00:49
daedra	ah i see	00:49
tonyyarusso	daedra: the screen man page should be all you need though.	00:49
CMind	daedra: tonyyaruso need access to the university network from home ;)	00:49
daedra	other ways to skin a cat	00:49
Pelo	randy_, copy it with sudo cp or open the editor you use with sudo or gksu	00:50
tonyyarusso	daedra: It specifically mentions something about "useful for startup scripts" and the like.	00:50
daedra	oh sweet! man screeeeen	00:50
masmota	is there a way to auto-play a video in fullscreen on my second screen (tv) the tv is alrdy setup & working but i gotta start the movie manually and move it, then fullscreen	00:50
daedra	thanks	00:50
Pelo	bmac_, try editing the xorg.conf file manualy and adding the extra resolutions you need, it's in /etc/X11/xorg.conf	00:50
LinuxMercedes	Hi, does anyone know where chkconfig is on Ubuntu Server 7.10?	00:50
bmac_	Pelo, thanks but i'm going to noob myself bigtime here... how do I get there?	00:50
j3kyll	drc : so i checked out the website again and im failing to find what else i need	00:51
kindofabuzz_	LinuxMercedes: i think you have to install chkconfig, not in by default	00:51
Pelo	bmac_, termnal > gksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf , and it is X one one , not X L L	00:51
LinuxMercedes	kindofabuzz_: that would explain why it's not in /sbin =] Thanks!	00:51
bmac_	Pelo, thanks, i'll try it	00:51
kindofabuzz_	LinuxMercedes: try apt-get install chkconfig	00:51
LinuxMercedes	kindofabuzz_: doing that right now	00:52
dresman	hi everybody!!	00:52
LinuxMercedes	kindofabuzz_: "E: Package chkconfig has no installation candidate" =[	00:52
j3kyll	Pelo : i've read the instructions for the dvd and i've added the repository medibuntu and installed the package libdvdcss2... what else do i need? its not working?	00:53
dresman	hi could i have some help with sound and audio	00:53
Pelo	j3kyll, what player are you using ?	00:53
kindofabuzz_	LinuxMercedes: hmm dunno them =)	00:53
unop__	LinuxMercedes, you can use sysvconfig -- it gives you a service command that works a bit like chkconfig	00:53
kindofabuzz_	then	00:53
LinuxMercedes	kindofabuzz_: ok, maybe you can tell me what I'm really trying to do	00:54
CMind	anyone tried remastersys?	00:54
bmac_	Pelo, ok i'm there at xorg.conf , but what do I do to add the resolution?	00:54
LinuxMercedes	kindofabuzz_: I'm installing a dns update client, and it tells me to run this command: "/sbin/chkconfig --add ddclient"	00:54
kindofabuzz_	LinuxMercedes: probably not lol	00:54
Pelo	bmac_, scroll down, you'll see other resolutions listed, just type your's in follow the syntax	00:54
j3kyll	Pelo : im using multilple ones (since trying to figure this out) mplayer , totem , vlc , gxine	00:54
LinuxMercedes	kindofabuzz_: lol	00:54
dresman	i just upgraded to hardy heron and it seemed to stop my sound from working someone please help!	00:54
tonyyarusso	LinuxMercedes: personally, I like sysv-rc-conf for runlevel config	00:54
Pelo	j3kyll, hvae you also read this ? https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html	00:55
kindofabuzz_	LinuxMercedes: http://www.fastcoder.net/software/chkconfig/	00:55
dresman	help...	00:56
Pelo	dresman, with what ?	00:56
dresman	i just upgraded to 8.04 and my sound seemed to stop working	00:56
numus_	ok i somehow uninstalled the restricted drivers for my wireless card and now it isnt working	00:56
LinuxMercedes	kindofabuzz_: ok, thanks.	00:56
Pelo	dresman, ask in #ubuntu+1	00:56
dresman	ok	00:56
j3kyll	pelo : yes i've read that and i've installed libdvdread3 but i can't do step two on that web page (e: file not found)	00:56
greywhind	anyone here know of a way to get TeamSpeak push-to-talk to work from another xserver? (or another channel where I could ask?)	00:57
ChiBoy	hi	00:57
LinuxMercedes	kindofabuzz_, tonyyarusso: either of you know the analogous command for sysv-rc-conf?	00:57
* LinuxMercedes doesn't feel like building software right now =]		00:57
kindofabuzz_	LinuxMercedes: no i don't know, and it probably won't take long to build that chkconfig	00:58
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Pelo	j3kyll, not found on mine either , not sure why, I would check the forum at this point , I'm realy not sure anymore, ths was a while back, mabye check in seveas' website repos, see if you can fnin install-css anywhere	00:58
LinuxMercedes	kindofabuzz_: ok, Ill go ahead and build it	00:58
ChiBoy	guys does any one know hwo to put linux image iso on to SD card and have it boot? please help me.	00:58
Pelo	j3kyll, nvm that, type locate install-css.sh , the file is located in another ploace, you need to adjust the comman dline to match	00:59
j3kyll	Pelo : alright ill check the forum thanks	00:59
Frederick	folks can I use hibernate java persistence in ubuntu?	00:59
jimrim	What is the proper program to use to watch BBC news?	00:59
Pelo	ChiBoy, you can probably extract the iso using file roller and then copy the content of the folder on the sd card	00:59
Pelo	j3kyll, just do a locate install-css.sh in the terminal that wil tell you whre the file is, then change the step two command to match	01:00
ChiBoy	file roller?	01:00
ChiBoy	not familair	01:00
norty	Question: Im running ubuntu 7.10, when I view the contents of a directory in the file manager I want to be able to list each thing with just the name, not the size or type or anything and then have them in be multiple columns, not just 1 column - I want it to be exactly like the list view in windows... can I do this?	01:00
numus_	ok something happened now the 3d drivers are running slow as dirt	01:01
Pelo	ChiBoy, it's just the archive app in ubuntu, must right click the file and extract here	01:01
j3kyll	pelo : ill try to do that , its not to clear to me what exactly you want me to do but i'll read it over and ask questions ;)	01:01
Pelo	norty, you can chagne the colums in the prefs under edit , not sure you can get it just like windows	01:01
drc	j3kyll-> try /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3 for the sh file (at least on my box	01:02
Pelo	j3kyll, just use this command sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh	01:02
j3kyll	pelo : that worked now what?	01:02
threefcata	ChiBoy: check this out: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick	01:02
ChiBoy	Guys i have extracted iso in to sD card abnd then opened it in ach linux and start will not run	01:02
ChiBoy	why?	01:02
Pelo	j3kyll, now you should be able to play dvds	01:02
danf	:)	01:02
j3kyll	thanks a billion pelo	01:03
masmota	is there a way to auto-play a video in fullscreen on my second screen? (svid to the tv) the tv is alrdy setup & working but i gotta start the movie manually and move it to the tv, then fullscreen.	01:03
danf	hi there	01:03
Pelo	later folks	01:03
stickman_	hey all. anyone here using encrypted file systems under ubuntu?	01:03
threefcata	ChiBoy: see the link above, i used it before, you need to copy some file out from one of the folder and do some editing..	01:03
ricardo	What day will Ubuntu 8.04 be released?	01:03
tonyyarusso	stickman_: Tried once with Gutsy, but decided it wasn't quite ready for what I wanted to do with it.	01:04
Hex_101	For some reason my ubuntu will not load my network card, ethtool shows nothing, ifconfig gives me only lo, & mii-tool doesnt work either, what could be the problem?	01:04
tonyyarusso	ricardo: April 24th is the expected date.	01:04
tonyyarusso	ricardo: (subject to change if necessary)	01:04
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LumBuntu	gnight all	01:04
Hex_101	Night :)	01:04
stickman_	tonyyarusso: i'm looking for something similar to suse. can i do this with the alt desktop cd?	01:04
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mysticalone	I'm having problems dual booting with GRUB, Vista is BSOD on boot	01:05
danf	i have a question concerning the way apps are translated in the linux world... I need to know how it is achieved, what is the current method used ?	01:05
masmota	tonyyarusso: what solution did u decide to go with?	01:05
dresman	YOU PEOPLE ARE NO HELP TO ME	01:05
Nachos	I'm curious as why the libc6 installed(2.7-4) is different than the headers libc6-dev(2.6.1)	01:05
Hex_101	dresman sometimes things said in the channel cannot be fixed.	01:05
YeaSt	dresman:whats ur problem?	01:06
tonyyarusso	masmota: Nothing yet - not on the right machine to do antyhing about it, just pondering.	01:06
masmota	dresman: try pressing capslock, that might help	01:06
nomopofomo	Does the apache project have a main IRC server and channel?	01:06
tonyyarusso	stickman_: Alternate CD is the way to go, yes.	01:06
Hex_101	nomo: try #apache ?	01:06
un0p_	nomopofomo, /join #apache	01:06
Xang	!patience \| dresman	01:06
dresman	you could have said that it couldnt be found out awhile ago	01:06
ubotu	dresman: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines	01:06
who_	can anyone explain to me what might be going on when I can talk on IRC but I can't see google? DNS related? Where do I look?	01:06
fyrmedic	I just installed the beta Hardy and a couple of packages were kept back. What is the command to get those to install?	01:06
dresman	This is rediculous	01:06
who_	It isn't just google - I can't resolve any urls	01:06
tonyyarusso	fyrmedic: Hardy questions should go in #ubuntu+1, btw	01:07
stickman_	cool thanks. bbl then.	01:07
YeaSt	who_: which irc you you use?	01:07
un0p_	who_, is your browser using a proxy?	01:07
Hex_101	who_ sounds like a browser problem, make sure your browser hasnt got a proxy set up or the like	01:07
Xang	who_: Cat /etc/resolv.conf	01:07
Xang	who_: What do you see?	01:07
fyrmedic	tonyyarusso: ok thanks I'll go there.	01:07
who_	Xang. Thanks	01:08
dresman	thanks i hate you people i hate you all:-D	01:08
numus	when i try to use update-manager -d i get warning: could not initiate dbus	01:08
YeaSt	why that kind of people stay in this channel?	01:08
who_	Xang - it isn't what it should be - it is out as a result of using networkmanager to connect to a wireless network with DHCP, and with the card (ethernet) dealing with internet being static...	01:09
drc	YeaSt-> their mommies let them stay up past their bedtime	01:09
Xang	hmm.	01:09
dil	my moomy lets me do anything	01:09
YeaSt	haha	01:10
un0p_	moomy? sounds quite dopey	01:10
Hex_101	:( shame no one can help me, anyway im off 1am :P night all	01:10
tumidian	I have a quick iptables question, if anyone has time	01:10
jtaby	hey, how can I do a search and replace on a directory?	01:10
un0p_	tumidian, ask	01:10
un0p_	jtaby, what do you mean exactly?	01:11
Jesse	hey	01:11
tumidian	can someone explain what an 'all else fails deny' rule is?	01:11
Jesse	anyone in here know why i'd be having problems trying to run ubuntu on my new sata 2 500g hdd?	01:11
masmota	if the packet doesnt match any ruleset you specify, it will deny the packet	01:11
masmota	ie: by default, deny all	01:12
Jesse	it says it cant mount the partition that its installed on... could it have something to do w/ the fact its running at 3g/s rather than 1.5g/s?	01:12
rryan	Jesse : Well.. I think if I tried to run ubuntu on your hard drive, I mighth ave problems :) BUT It works just fine on my Sata 2 hard drives :)	01:12
tumidian	so, if a packet from a certain protocol isn't stated, it'll be dropped?	01:12
Xang	tumdian: Also known as the default cleanup rule.	01:12
CMind	Guys, for those who dont know remastersys take a look at this: http://howtoforge.com/ubuntu-linux-mint-livecd-with-remastersys	01:12
davi1	I am brand new to ubuntu....starting at ground floor ...know precious little! can anyone tell me how to access the desktop thingos such as the clock , the post-it note type thing for daily to-dos , the weather....	01:12
unop_	tumidian, if by chance a packet gets through all the rules in a table, this one is a catch-all that denies the packet from passing through	01:12
aw0x	http://gaww.net/need-room.rtf - would you let this guy live in your spare room? Y/n	01:12
masmota	yeah, drop all packets that arent explicitly allowed	01:12
Jesse	do you have your sata 2s running 1.5g/s (default) or jumped to run 3.0	01:12
tumidian	very cool...I kind of had that idea, but wanted to make sure	01:12
arooni	ok if i'm sudo... how can i run a command "as if" i was the user named "foo" ? (this is specificially for a bash script that runs at startup and starts a web server )	01:12
Xang	tumidian: Good deal.	01:13
Luckrider	Ugh... Can anyone help	01:13
Luckrider	I just installed HH	01:13
Luckrider	and	01:13
unop_	arooni, sudo -u user script	01:13
arooni	un0p_, can i run that from witihin a bash script	01:13
Luckrider	I don't know how to use the new x-chat	01:13
unop_	arooni, man sudo	01:13
Jesse	rryan, did you set it to run 3.0 bc most run 1.5 by default.. have to jump it to run 3.0	01:13
sh4nk	Anyone happen to have an idea when Flash is going to supposed v4l2?	01:13
Xang	arooni: sudo -u <user>	01:13
rryan	Jesse : Mine are jumped to run at 3.0gpbs	01:13
unop_	arooni, as-is	01:13
sh4nk	Or if it's even planned for support?	01:13
waterz	how can i install g++ in my ubuntu?	01:13
unop_	waterz, install build-essential	01:13
Luckrider	can anyone help me connect to another server, or at least pull up the network list	01:14
Luckrider	?	01:14
Luckrider	Please	01:14
Luckrider	any help would be appreciated.	01:14
Starnestommy	Luckrider: which client do you use?	01:14
sh4nk	luckrider, using xchat?	01:14
Luckrider	yeah	01:14
Starnestommy	Luckrider: /server new.server	01:14
Xang	Luckrider: Places->Connect to another server.	01:14
Luckrider	oh	01:14
Luckrider	i tried /connect	01:14
davi1	any answer for dav1?	01:14
sh4nk	IRC -> Connect will open up serve list	01:14
waynrdude	is there a cli to find out how much ram my system has	01:14
Jesse	rryan, any clue as to why I cant get it to work then?	01:14
Jesse	i did the install same way i always have	01:15
sh4nk	dav1, what was problem?	01:15
davi1	hi	01:15
CMind	Wow, a live/installation cd of my workstation. remastersys is great :)	01:15
davi1	i'm a beginner	01:15
drc	davi1-> try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy	01:15
rryan	Jesse : Well, what isn't working ? Did you install it on the 500gb and it won't boot? Did you install the 500gb on a machine that already had it and you want the 500gb recognized in Ubuntu ?	01:15
davi1	thanks drc	01:15
LinuxMercedes	kindofabuzz_: alright, any ideas as to why I get a permission denied when running ./configure?	01:15
kindofabuzz_	sudo	01:16
drc	davil, it may not have all you want, but it's a start	01:16
kindofabuzz_	?	01:16
davi1	thanks drc	01:16
jer132	Does anyone know if it's possible to have the same hostname on a LAN?	01:16
LinuxMercedes	kindofabuzz_: tried, command not found	01:16
LinuxMercedes	kindofabuzz_: what's weird is that it's in my home dir	01:16
Jesse	rryan, i the PC recognizes the hdd no prob.. its dual booting w/ winxp just fine but for some reason it fails to boot the ubuntu install via grub... it says that it was unable to mount the partition	01:16
Jesse	doesnt explain why or anything	01:16
Jesse	just that grub fails to mount it.. :-\	01:17
unop__	jer132, definitely possible, not advisable	01:17
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Jesse	I think i'm gonna try to delete the partition and repartition it	01:17
rryan	Jesse : How many hard drives are there total ?	01:17
icanhasadmin	LinuxMercedes: chmod +x	01:17
jer132	unop_: could it potentially cause conflicts? I only ask this because of a bug I'm trying to sort out... but nobody will listen... ack!	01:17
CTho_	does gutsy have ionice / CFQ enabled?	01:17
rryan	Jesse : And is the Ubuntu partition on the same drive as the XP one ?	01:18
CMind	Jesse: Make sure grub have to good partition / disk index	01:18
CMind	Jesse: have to* have the	01:18
LinuxMercedes	icanhasadmin: that works, thanks!	01:18
unop__	jer132, it could definitely cause conflicts, especially with networking services	01:18
unop__	jer132, what's the suspect bug?	01:18
jer132	unop_: Well Ubuntu Hardy defaults with a hostname of "*".	01:18
Jesse	yes rryan its installed on the same freakin drive lol	01:18
jer132	unop_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/206384/	01:19
TheRealFaceOfBoe	heres my query, i want to install a program called calcurse from source, but i have the old version of calcurse on my system	01:19
avgJoe	How would I find the reutor I am using wirelessly?	01:19
TheRealFaceOfBoe	so i am planning to install it to opt	01:19
Jesse	dont insult my intelligence lol .. i've been using linux for 2-3 yrs and normally use slackware & arch but wanted something quick and easy	01:19
Jesse	turning out not to be so quick or easy	01:19
unop__	jer132, sorry, hardy discussion/support only in #ubuntu+1 -- beta software requires different approaches to troubleshooting	01:19
LinuxMercedes	Alright, when I run ./configure, I get "configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables"	01:20
TheRealFaceOfBoe	how would i go about doing that, is it as simple as using configure --prefix=/opt/calcurse...	01:20
rryan	Jesse : Well.. first off the question I asked shouldn't be insulting. You can have setups where teh partitions are on different drives, I'm just trying to get a judge for how complicated your setup is. Remember, I'm blind, and you aren't giving me the details I need. :) There's no need to take offense.	01:20
jer132	unop__: well nobody will acknowledge the problem or help me test..	01:20
avgJoe	Is there a program that could help me with it?	01:20
YeaSt	avgJoe: try iwconfig to find our you wireless card name and do ip r to see the route	01:21
Jesse	rryan, i was just messin	01:21
Xang	avgJoe: You could perform the command: netstat -rn	01:21
rryan	Jesse : Can you verify the partitions is there, formatted ext3, and contains valid data ? (e.g. from within xp or a livecd)	01:21
yowshi	hmmm sym links didnt work i click on them and nothing happenzsx	01:21
Jesse	rryan, yeah its all looking like it should work fine	01:22
avgJoe	xang, I want to find out the model of reutor I have, so I can portforward it	01:22
nikrud	LinuxMercedes install build-essential	01:22
LinuxMercedes	icanhasadmin: when I run ./configure, I get "configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables"	01:22
CMind	Jesse: can you pastebin your grub config ?	01:22
Jesse	cmind do you mean my menu.lst?	01:22
YeaSt	avgJoe: ip r will give the route	01:23
nikrud	TheRealFaceOfBoe pretty much, yes.	01:23
TheRealFaceOfBoe	nikrud: what about the documentation, will i need to specify that seperately?	01:23
Jesse	I think i may have an idea lemme try it.. i'll b back on in a few	01:23
rryan	Jesse : Hm.. If you look at your grub device config in /boot/grub/device.map?, does it look like the drive names mapped to hd0, hd1, and so on match up with the ones referenced in /boot/grub/menu.lst?	01:23
starscalling	o:	01:23
CMind	Jesse: yes	01:24
starscalling	sup allz	01:24
icanhasadmin	LinuxMercedes: do you have build-essential installed?	01:24
nikrud	TheRealFaceOfBoe depends on how configure and the make file is put together. I would _expect_ the doc install to respect the --prefix	01:24
yowshi	sorry ahbout that	01:24
LinuxMercedes	icanhasadmin: Installing right now; I didn't see nikrud's response =]	01:24
abel	can u help me, please...?	01:24
Jesse	yeah rryan its rec my /dev/sda as (hd0).. i think the menu.lst file is jacked tho	01:24
icanhasadmin	LinuxMercedes: yeah that would do it lol	01:24
Jesse	never had ubuntu mess that up tho :-\	01:25
Jesse	i'm gonna alter it and see which one takes	01:25
Jesse	if any :-\ lol	01:25
TheRealFaceOfBoe	nikrud: i'll give it a go, how would i undo it, make uninstall?	01:25
rryan	Jesse : Hm ok... make sure menu.lst's entry for hte ubuntu version you are loading references like (hd0,1) then if ubuntu is the second partition on the drive after your xp	01:25
abel	how to install skype in ubuntu ver. 5	01:25
nikrud	TheRealFaceOfBoe one of the real advantages of putting stuff in /opt/<whatever> is if the make file doesn't have an uninstall (not unheard of) you can easily delete it :)	01:26
Bugson	hello	01:26
avgJoe	YeaSt. I need the Rueters model IE, its a belkin, but I need to no the model	01:26
CMind	rryan: have you tried remastersys?	01:26
* nikrud feels deja vu		01:26
joanki	can anyone tell me how i can get aim on my computer?	01:26
LinuxMercedes	icanhasadmin, nikrud, kindofabuzz_: thanks for the help	01:26
TheRealFaceOfBoe	nikrud: so its better to install to /opt/[package name] then /opt i suppose, that way you can just delete it?	01:26
rryan	CMind : nope, have you ?	01:27
Bugson	maybe someone now how to disable automount samba directories at my desktop?	01:27
badcarbine	joankie: you can just use pidgin if you're in ubuntu. should come with it	01:27
avgJoe	YeaSt. Unless you care to ellaborate on how I could portforward azurues with the info that gives me :)	01:27
CMind	rryan: trying to create an live/install disk of my workstation.. will see if it works	01:27
j3kyll	i've tried everything and my dvd player still wont work!!! please help	01:27
nikrud	TheRealFaceOfBoe it's a rational decision. Me, I tend to put stuff in /usr/local . But both methods have their pluses. (like /usr/local/bin being on the path, for example)	01:27
Jesse	rryan, win xp is on sda1, and ubuntu is on sda5	01:28
YeaSt	avgJoe: if the router is manageable, you could use smnpwalk to find the module for you router. But I do not understand why you need that inform	01:28
Jesse	should be on 0,4	01:28
CMind	Jesse: (hd0,4) then	01:28
nikrud	TheRealFaceOfBoe erm, let me rephrase that: when I used to compile stuff I put it in /usr/local	01:28
CMind	Jesse: if you dont have ide drives	01:28
atha	halo	01:28
Jesse	nope not going to	01:28
Jesse	after i get things working i'm gonna reconnect my old IDE to pull the data off	01:29
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Jesse	its still barely running lol	01:29
TheRealFaceOfBoe	nikrud: ok, well i use synaptic mainly, and i think i'll try to keep packages from source seperate from those from the repos	01:29
joanki	can anyone tell me how to get aim	01:29
avgJoe	YeaSt, I'm trying to find the instructions at portforward.com, but to find the intructions I need to know the model of the ruetor	01:29
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j3kyll	please help me, dvd player won't work	01:29
Bugson	I have to add that I'm working on 8.04 and there is that stupid automounting samba directories when I enter them, any idea how to disable that?	01:29
LinuxMercedes	um, does Ubuntu use redhat style rc files?	01:29
CMind	Jesse: a fresh install takes about 20mins ;)	01:29
Bugson	j3kyll have u installed the drivers?	01:30
xeer	I have a strange problem regarding audio input	01:30
godfreyhk	Can I install the JeOS version on a non-virtual intel box?	01:30
Jesse	yeah i knw	01:30
qaz	hello there	01:30
Jesse	brb guys	01:30
Jesse	gonan give this a spin	01:30
TheRealFaceOfBoe	nikrud: arr, configure error, it stalls when it gets to ncurses, how do go about pasting terminal output	01:30
xeer	I cut the end off of a input cable, and I hear the radio playing in my speakers when I plug it in	01:30
qaz	i am new linux ubuntu user	01:30
dtad	j3kyll do you get any picture ?	01:30
nikrud	TheRealFaceOfBoe /usr/local is never touched by synaptic, except maybe to create directory trees for integrating locally compiled modules for synaptic installed software, like /usr/loca/lib/python2.5 . /usr/local is intended exclusively for local compilation/installation	01:30
xeer	I'm trying to get the mic working but I get an error, ERROR: from element /bin0/alsasink0: Could not open resource for writing.	01:31
Bugson	any idea with that auto mounting?	01:31
nikrud	TheRealFaceOfBoe install libncurses5-dev	01:31
j3kyll	Bugson : i think i have but i don't know if i did it corectly.	01:31
mutabi	xeer me too - my speakers sometimes pickup LW :-)	01:31
j3kyll	dtad : no i have no picture :(	01:31
TheRealFaceOfBoe	nikrud: cheers	01:31
xeer	LW, wow we have no stations that broadcast on that freq	01:31
godfreyhk	I don't really need all the fancy stuff in the 'normal' version.. anyone tried that before? (Installing JeOS on a non-virtual machine)	01:32
mutabi	xeer yeah I normally get German or Arabic news - at least it sounds like news - I don't speak German or Frasi! :-)	01:32
xeer	in the Sound Preference, I click on the test button under sound capture, I get "gconfaudiosrc ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink profile=chat: Could not open resource for writing."	01:32
Bugson	j3kyll just try to play some dvd with totem and it should find and install all the drivers that it needs, ofcourse u have to remember about good repos	01:32
TheRealFaceOfBoe	nikrud: if i were to install to /usr/local how would i uninstall?	01:32
who_	okay, I have a wireless card doing DHCPDISCOVER on eth1 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 14	01:33
xeer	Bugson: I have major issues playing dvds. vlc will play it, but it stutters and crashes. totem says it doesn't have the codecs even though I've installed it. I'm on amd64	01:33
nikrud	TheRealFaceOfBoe make uninstall, or manually.	01:33
Dr_Link	Does Ubuntu come with DVD video codecs installed?	01:33
who_	the 255.255.255.255 looks kinda strange - is that right?	01:33
Bugson	xeer what version?	01:33
Bugson	of ubuntu	01:33
CMind	who_: thats a broadcast address	01:33
xeer	Bugson: 7.10	01:34
j3kyll	bugson : i've tried doing that with totem and it gives me a link. where there i have to add the repository medibuntu then install both the ..dvdcss2 and libdvdread	01:34
cabrioleur	Dr_Link, no	01:34
who_	CMind: tell me more :S	01:34
CMind	who_: it's normal.	01:34
Dr_Link	Damnit, my DVD player is not working	01:34
Dr_Link	and this video has some information I need on it.	01:34
nikrud	Dr_Link with the codecs to play unencrypted (non-commercial) dvds	01:34
j3kyll	bugson : i've done all of the steps i just mentioned :\	01:34
who_	Cmind: oh - I was hoping it wasn't - can't work out any other reason I can't get a lease :P	01:34
TheRealFaceOfBoe	nikrud: is /usr/local/src for containing the source?	01:35
nikrud	Dr_Link install ubuntu-restricted-extras , and libdvdcss2 from medibuntu , see following link	01:35
CMind	who_: your dhcp service send a packet to every address at once on your network to find the DHCP server. Once it's found, the dhcp server will respond and give you an address.	01:35
nikrud	!medibuntu \| Dr_Link	01:35
ubotu	Dr_Link: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org	01:35
arooni	whats a good port for ssh that is not port 22 and wont conflict with other stuff?	01:35
CMind	who_: network card miss configuration or bad wep/wpa key	01:35
LinuxMercedes	"error reading information on service ddclient: No such file or directory"--where should I put ddclient?	01:35
nikrud	TheRealFaceOfBoe I always keep src (other than the kernel source) in ~/projects, I don't have to worry about permissions if I edit	01:35
nikrud	s/if I edited/when I used to edit/	01:36
LinuxMercedes	arooni: pretty much anything over 1000, afaik	01:36
who_	CMind: I'll check the keys - but it shouldn't be... Net Card - could be.	01:36
Bugson	j3kyll xeer and all others that have problems with dvds: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy#How_To_Add_DVD_Playback_Capability	01:36
arooni	linux4me, 24000?	01:36
CMind	who_: the router may also block your mac address (MAC filtering)	01:36
who_	CMind: it isn't a router, but instead a MacBook sharing it's internet. It isn't blocking this MAC...	01:37
LinuxMercedes	arooni: I don't know of any conflicts on that port	01:37
who_	CMind - but it might just be being nasty when it comes to DHCP	01:37
CMind	who_: someone else tried to connect to the laptop successfuly before you?	01:37
nikrud	Bugson the only problem with that instruction is it gets an old version of libdvdcss, 1.2.5. Medibuntu carries the latest, 1.2.9	01:37
TheRealFaceOfBoe	nikrud: i think what i'll do in the future is keep /opt for my own programs and /usr/local/ for those complied from ource	01:38
nikrud	TheRealFaceOfBoe a rational decision ;)	01:38
who_	CMind: I don't _think_ so. Yes from Os X (this computer is also a mac - a G4 imac to be precise) but not from Linux. But it has been on OTHER networks	01:38
Bugson	nikrud it works for me	01:38
Bugson	and its the easiest way to say how it should be done	01:39
starscalling	jyfyfjhf	01:39
dtad	xeer do you have deinterlace checked	01:39
nikrud	!worksforme \| Bugson (I do what Works for Me™ a lot too;)	01:39
ubotu	Bugson (I do what Works for Me™ a lot too;): Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/	01:39
xeer	Bugson: mplayer dvd:// works, though it states my system is slow. which definitely is not true	01:39
angel	hi evribody	01:39
TheRealFaceOfBoe	nikrud: so because i am compiling from source i need libncurses5-dev	01:39
xeer	dtad, yes I'm using blend. It makes the picture much smoother	01:39
icanhasadmin	yeah.. you know chmod +x / works for me...	01:39
CMind	who_: OSX is BSD based (unix), which is somekind of linux... I don't think that the OS is the issue here.	01:40
angel	do you know another ftp program for gnome... no gftp??	01:40
Bugson	nikrud it may work for other and solve the problem ;)	01:40
j3kyll	bugson : i tried the link you gave me and got this after downloading "sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh"	01:40
nikrud	TheRealFaceOfBoe yes. The way ubuntu handles software is to keep the libraries needed to run stuff in one package, and the stuff needed to compile against those libraries in another ending in -dev .	01:40
CMind	who_: what's the authentification used ?	01:40
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j3kyll	bugson *dpkg: status database area is locked by another process	01:40
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who_	CMind: but OS X has better (official) drivers for the card - Linux doesn't	01:40
TheRealFaceOfBoe	nikrud: sensible enough	01:41
who_	Cmind: I just changed to none to test	01:41
CMind	who_: true at some point	01:41
aHappyJenny86	will upgrading to hardy heron from gutsy change my display settings? backgrounds themes fonts icons etc etc....	01:41
c13paradox	hello?	01:41
Bugson	j3kyll u have another process on that is using apt	01:41
nikrud	aHappyJenny86 #ubuntu+1 for hardy questions (but no is the answer)	01:41
c13paradox	i'm trying to install 7.10, can someone help me?	01:41
CMind	CMind: I do better packet injection using my Linux laptop than my Powerbook on OsX ;)	01:41
CMind	uh	01:42
CMind	who_:	01:42
Bugson	j3kyll close other package updaters	01:42
* nikrud talks to himself all the time, but not in public		01:42
TheViLliN	what options do i need to use to search the repository's for a particular file within a package, ie apt- ???? file	01:42
Bugson	nikrud maybe you know how to disable automounting smb directories on my desktop?	01:42
Bugson	nikrud ubuntu 8.04	01:42
Bugson	;)	01:42
nikrud	Bugson don't know anything about smb. ;p	01:42
tonyyarusso	Bugson: #ubuntu+1 for Hardy	01:42
Bugson	oki thx	01:43
who_	CMind: Well, in fact, this trying to connect to the macbook from the imac (ubuntu) is just to establish the card works okay - because I can't get it tow work in master mode... the macbook just doesn't see the network the imac _should_ be creating	01:43
j3kyll	Bugson : okay so i got it to work, i've done this exact step before and it doesn't work	01:43
a94060	hello all	01:44
a94060	ubuntu rocks :)	01:44
bruenig	!ot \| a94060	01:44
ubotu	a94060: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!	01:44
CMind	who_: have you tried to share the connection using your linux laptop?	01:44
tritium	a94060: we're glad you like it :)	01:44
c13paradox	need help with installing ubuntu	01:44
a94060	haha,sorry about that	01:44
bruenig	s/we're/I'm/	01:44
Bugson	j3kyll and your sure u have that packages installed? check that in synaptic package manager	01:44
TheRealFaceOfBoe	nikrud: should make be run as sudo, also should i run make install and should it be ran as sudo	01:45
charles__	is there something I can run from the command line to disrupt the gnome-screensaver?	01:45
nikrud	TheRealFaceOfBoe make should not, make install yes	01:45
j3kyll	c13paradox : how do you want to install?	01:45
spork969	will the archive manager unpack rar archives?	01:46
nikrud	TheRealFaceOfBoe another reason to keep your source in $HOME somewhere	01:46
TheRealFaceOfBoe	nikrud: i have run make as sudo, can i just do it again but without this time?	01:46
mutabi	generally speaking you should always build as root and then drop to unpriv user to make install	01:46
LinuxMercedes	charles__: shooting in the dark here (no gui on my linux box =]) but have you tried a kill?	01:46
c13paradox	i'm trying to install from dvd	01:46
nikrud	TheRealFaceOfBoe no, because anything that compiled with sudo is now owned by root, and you can't overwrite. You'd have to run sudo make clean, that should allow you to run make as non sudo	01:46
c13paradox	i burned the image and put the disc in	01:47
c13paradox	selected install and nothing is happening	01:47
TheRealFaceOfBoe	nikrud: ok sheers	01:47
charles__	LinuxMercedes, that may work; I just want to disable it while I watch a movie and then re-enable it	01:47
cabrioleur	mutabi, you said in reverse, build as a user, make install as a root.	01:47
who_	CMind: and now it works... so I can go back to working out why this card does not work as a master	01:47
nikrud	spork969 if you install unrar , yes	01:47
pingu	ne one know why i can save a .doc to my external on ubuntu and take it to a windows comp and it wont open	01:47
charles__	LinuxMercedes, without clicking a bunch of menus everytime	01:47
mutabi	re-reads hahah yeah sorry cabrioleur :-)	01:47
LinuxMercedes	charles__: I'm out of my element there =]	01:48
spork969	nikrud, sudo apt-get install unrar?	01:48
CMind	who_: I may have something for youhttp://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=348657	01:48
nikrud	spork969 yes	01:48
CMind	who_: I may have something for you http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=348657	01:48
bluefox83	c13paradox, what version of ubuntu? gutsy or hardy?	01:48
c13paradox	gutsy	01:48
Virkoff	buenas noches gente...	01:48
c13paradox	and this is my first time using any distro of linux, trying to get out of windows so this is a really new process for me :\	01:48
tritium	!es > Virkoff	01:48
mutabi	anyone here know any good nzb leechers that allow SSL at all?	01:48
bluefox83	c13paradox, might just need to restart the machine and try again, it happens sometimes	01:48
nikrud	charles__ you can add the inhibit applet to your panel, it allows you to turn on/off power management/screensaver	01:49
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spork969	nickrud, will that make it automatically be able to unpack rar archives or do i have to move some files, etc?	01:49
c13paradox	i have restarted 5 times	01:49
Virkoff	ok, sorry	01:49
c13paradox	and it does the same thing	01:49
bluefox83	O.o	01:49
yowshi	anyone know what you use to open or do aomthing to a .daa file?	01:49
aHappyJenny86	can someone explain to me why i can't access my linux files thru SMB on windows pc's	01:49
CMind	who_: by the way.. maybe you have to configure a dhcp server on your mac. Not SURE that it'll do it by itself	01:49
nikrud	spork969 no extra steps necessary	01:49
charles__	nikrud, awesome, thanks	01:49
bluefox83	c13paradox, what kind of machine are you installing it on, and does it actually have a dvd drive?	01:49
spork969	nikrud, greatm thanks a bunch	01:49
who_	CMind: Thanks. The mac seemed to be doing the DHCP thing - I changed the auth type to nothing and it is working now	01:49
draco	can you override/define unary ^?	01:50
draco	oops. wrong channel	01:50
CMind	who_: or configure both interface with static ip's gateway and route	01:50
who_	CMind: so all I really know is that this card works fine if the OS X Macbook is master	01:50
j3kyll	c13paradox : i've not heard of that. its very strange	01:50
CMind	who_: great	01:50
c13paradox	does it make a difference that it's on a laptop?	01:50
who_	now I have to make it work with iMac on Linux as Master (CMind)	01:50
MacTaylor	are we going to have to pay microsoft in the futre?	01:50
j3kyll	c13paradox : what size hard drive do you have, old laptop, new?	01:50
mutabi	MacTaylor - what?	01:50
LinuxMercedes	Any ideas as to why I get this message: "error reading information on service /usr/local/sbin/ddclient: No such file or directory" when ddclient is in /usr/local/sbin ?	01:50
recurs\|ve	is there an issue with installing right now?	01:51
tritium	MacTaylor: for what?	01:51
c13paradox	it's a 100gb hard drive but i want to use 30gb for linux for now until i'm comfortable with it (like i said first time user)	01:51
recurs\|ve	i installed fine a month ago on a similar machine, now i am freezing o]many times	01:51
c13paradox	and it's a thinkpad t61	01:51
cabrioleur	MacTaylor, yes, 200 golder rupees a month and 6 days of mandatory labor a week.	01:51
EcoBlue	what do I upgrade	01:52
j3kyll	c13paradox : it shouldn't be a problem (by the way im just started a while back, great system) . ill do a little reasearch really quick	01:52
MacTaylor	for there Intellactal proper that ballmer claims we are using	01:52
j3kyll	c13paradox : hold on	01:52
niocholas_jones	does anyone know a program that would allow you to do...control + alt + 1 = copy_buffer_1 , control + alt + 2 = copy_buffer_2 and to paste them you do control + 1, control + 2 , or something similar? anyone?	01:52
CMind	who_: http://oob.freeshell.org/nzwireless/LWAP-HOWTO.html	01:52
mutabi	MacTaylor - when 'monkey-boy' Ballmer talks - feel free to go to the bar.	01:52
tritium	MacTaylor: no, the opinion of many of the legal experts are that those claims are completely unfounded	01:52
tim	How do I enable spell checking for another language in Xchat ?	01:53
cabrioleur	MacTaylor, he is claiming it for years, there is no worry. A scare tactics.	01:53
tim	do u know??	01:53
MacTaylor	ok thanks	01:53
MacTaylor	g2g	01:53
j3kyll	c13paradox : while im looking , are you sure the iso is correct?	01:53
c13paradox	i did a checksum and it said it was good	01:53
cabrioleur	tritium, even if it is founded, we got FreeBSD! :-D	01:53
recurs\|ve	mactimes: where is this article?	01:54
CMind	rryan: trying my live cd...	01:54
tritium	cabrioleur: I strongly believe they're unfounded. Also, I'd prefer not to have to switch to *BSD.	01:54
Bitmess	Is Solaris any good?	01:54
Stroganoff	tim: install language-support-XX	01:55
Stroganoff	wheres XX is your language code	01:55
who_	CMind: Thanks - I'm following a few Ubuntu specific ones, but I seem to be failing after setting the network card to be master. On the other hand - I think the drivers can't do it yet - as the bcm4xxx website says: Access Point mode (not standard compliant and not without external patches)	01:55
CMind	Bitmess: if you need a rock solid server... solaris is great	01:55
cabrioleur	tritium, as would Stalin say: Give me a man, and I will give you a paragraph :-)	01:55
Bitmess	CMind, It looks a lot like Linux	01:55
j3kyll	c13paradox : (note its a good idea in chat to use a name in the sentence) my suggestion right now would be keep asking or use the forum. Im sorry i can't be of more help. I'll let you know if i find anything	01:56
tritium	cabrioleur: ?	01:56
Flannel	bellkana_: You should be able to jump right in, I've never heard of "voluntary translator positions" and I know you don't need to be anything specific. Its likely that those channels just are idle at the moment. I believe its all done through launchpad	01:56
godfreyhk	hmm, is there a server/JeOS channel for Ubuntu?	01:56
EcoBlue	Bitmess: Windows server 2008	01:56
recurs\|ve	any idea why i cant seem to install 7.10, 8.04 kubuntu 7.10 or 8.04 - fails during the kernel step!!!	01:56
TheViLliN	what options do i need to use to search the repository's for a particular file within a package, ie apt- ???? file	01:56
Flannel	!translate \| bellkana_	01:56
ubotu	bellkana_: Translate Ubuntu into your own language, important translations that are needed are listed first. See https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/	01:56
Lunks	Translation failed	01:56
Itaku	when i go to prefs>remote desktop it doesnt open whats wrong with it and how do i fix it???	01:56
Bitmess	EcoBlue, I like free stuff :)	01:56
EcoBlue	Bitmess: it's free	01:56
zeeeee	hi, i'm trying to configure my system as an nis/nfs client. for some reason, nfs doesn't quite work, but i can't tell if that's due to nis problems. when i ls the nfs dir, there's a ~1-minute delay, and everything shows up red. i can't access the subdirs - i get "Input/output error"	01:56
TheViLliN	i am trying to google it	01:57
Stroganoff	recurs\|ve, have you tried noapic and acpi=off?	01:57
c13paradox	j3kyll: thanks. right now it's sitting at running local boot scripts and that's the farthest it's ever gotten. it's been 45 minutes of that, and i don't know if something is wrong or what	01:57
cabrioleur	tritium, legal cases are not always based on the truth: Lotus vs Microsoft, Microsoft vs. IBM, IBM vs. Microsoft. It's a legal-economical game often outside the law. Do you remember BeOS?	01:57
Flannel	TheViLliN: apt-file will search, also packages.ubuntu.com can do it too. If you've already installed the stuff, dpkg -S [/path/to/file] will tell you the package	01:57
SpudDogg	zeeeee: i had that problem when my HD was on the fritz	01:57
Bitmess	EcoBlue, Like a beta or trial?	01:57
zeeeee	ypwhich shows the right server hostname and ypcat passwd shows the list of users. any hints would be greatly appreciated.	01:57
EcoBlue	Bitmess: free	01:57
EcoBlue	Bitmess: full one when it's released	01:57
tritium	cabrioleur: understood. Let's keep it at that, since it's relatively offtopic. :)	01:57
ridge-meister	I used to be able to print fine with my MFC-220 printer using Open Office Spreadsheet on Ubuntu. I can still print with other programs, but not OOSpreadsheet. What can I check?	01:58
Bitmess	EcoBlue, How do I get it free?	01:58
Niriven	Anyone run itunes in wine?	01:58
TheViLliN	Flannel: thanks	01:58
CMind	Bitmess: it's a little different, linux is Unix based. And as far as I know there is two different Unix base, BSD and Solaris...	01:58
SpudDogg	zeeeee: did you ever get around to setting the HD spindown time in the hdparm conf file? if you read around, alot of people complain that ubuntu kills hard disks	01:58
cabrioleur	ridge-meister, check for OOo printer management.	01:58
EcoBlue	Bitmess: Internet Technology	01:58
ridge-meister	When I run the print job the printer itself says that it is "receiving data", then nothing.	01:58
Stroganoff	CMind: linux is minix based, lol ;)	01:58
johan	hi, is there a way to disable eth0 so it will not show up in "ifconfig" ?	01:59
Lokii-	Niriven, install amarok	01:59
SpudDogg	Stroganoff: lol @ your name	01:59
Lokii-	better then itunes	01:59
cabrioleur	Minix? Sys V :_)	01:59
Niriven	Lokii-: for an ipod touch?	01:59
ridge-meister	cabrioleur: Where is the OO printer management tool located?	01:59
Lokii-	oh	01:59
TheViLliN	damn im a good cook lol	01:59
Bitmess	CMind, I'm thinking of trying it in Virtualbox.	01:59
SilverDawn	does anyone have mpd working with pulse audio	01:59
Lokii-	gey your hardware dependant	02:00
Itaku	when i go to prefs>remote desktop it doesnt open whats wrong with it and how do i fix it????????????????????	02:00
Lokii-	although there are os projects	02:00
Lokii-	for example	02:00
Bitmess	EcoBlue, Is this legal?	02:00
EcoBlue	Bitmess: No idea	02:00
cabrioleur	ridge-meister, I can't help you with this one, as I don't have ubuntu.	02:00
Lokii-	EphPod	02:00
Stroganoff	Itaku: open a terminal (alt+f2 -> xterm) and start "vino-properties"	02:00
joanki	can anyone tell me how i can get aim?	02:00
Lokii-	is 1 that springs to mind	02:00
joanki	is it a part of the repository?	02:00
Itaku	bash: vino-properties: command not foundT	02:01
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Bitmess	EcoBlue, I'll see if I can locate 2008 server	02:01
Stroganoff	Itaku: type vino and press TAB	02:01
EcoBlue	Bitmess: I don't think it is, I was kidding, but good luck finding it	02:01
Stroganoff	twice	02:01
cabrioleur	Niriven, only old iTunes works with wine. You might want to do it with gtkpod, rhythmbox or you favorite music player.	02:01
CMind	Stroganoff: in 1973 it was all the same :P	02:01
lusius	can someone please help me with a wine problem?	02:01
Itaku	(vino-preferences:2992): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0.0	02:01
Stroganoff	CMind: thats not right either	02:01
Lokii-	nirven locate and try ephpob	02:01
Lokii-	it worked awesome with my 40gb photo	02:01
Lokii-	ephpod*	02:02
charles__	that inhibit applet didn't work for the screensaver.. but I gound a way	02:02
JohnMM	hey Wicks	02:02
joanki	can anyone help me get aim?	02:02
JohnMM	oops	02:02
JohnMM	wrong window, sorry	02:02
Lokii-	jaonkii	02:02
cabrioleur	Itaku, are you root?	02:02
Bitmess	EcoBlue, I got a quote from CDW for it the other day. It wasn't free. I wanter 2003 AS but he could only sell 2008 and a downgrade.	02:02
nikrud	charles__ what as it? I'll see the question again, and I _MUST_ be right ;)	02:02
SpudDogg	joanki: why are you trying to run AIM? every try pidgin?	02:02
Lokii-	install pidgin	02:02
ejm	is there an ubuntu channel with a lot less traffic on it that I could use?	02:02
charles__	gnome-screensaver-command --poke	02:02
lusius	im trying to run san andreas as root user with wine, but it gets some kind of segfault, works fine as normal user, but not as root.... what can the problem be?	02:02
nikrud	heh	02:02
charles__	nikrud, and various others	02:02
Stroganoff	lusius, why play it as root?	02:03
ejm	root is not good for everyday activities	02:03
Stroganoff	lusius: set the correct folder permission so you dont have to use root for savegames and what not	02:03
cabrioleur	lusius, you are using root! That's a bed idea!!!!	02:03
EcoBlue	Bitmess: How is CDW? Never dealt with them.	02:03
ridge-meister	cabrioleur: i don't even know where to find the printer management tool for OO. none of the oo programs are printing, apparently	02:03
Itaku	(vino-preferences:2992): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0.0 how do i fix that?	02:03
lusius	Stroganoff, my winecfg just returns a blank fucked up windows when calling it, root however works fine	02:04
TheRealFaceOfBoe	:nikrud everything went smoothly, many thanks	02:04
hidlan	cabrioleur do you mean the podcasting bit of itunes doesn't work with wine? when you say "only old iTunes works with wine"	02:04
ridge-meister	cabrioleur: yet i can print from within mozilla firefox.	02:04
ridge-meister	does OO suck?	02:04
Bitmess	EcoBlue, they're ok, Mostly convenient for me. Prices as average or above.	02:04
nikrud	TheRealFaceOfBoe yw	02:04
oni	ok all i keep getting this error when i start my box up and its something like gnome deamon did not start	02:04
lusius	Stroganoff, its a native install of san andreas from a windows machine, all the files are chowned to current user	02:04
hidlan	I've never used Itunes even on Windows so I was just curious	02:04
Stroganoff	lusius, have you installed wine with the ubuntu repos?	02:05
Bugson	what soft is mounting pendrives, cds, dvds and so on?	02:05
lusius	Stroganoff, yep	02:05
Stroganoff	thats odd ^^	02:05
niocholas_jones	does anyone know a program that would allow you to do...control + alt + 1 = copy_buffer_1 , control + alt + 2 = copy_buffer_2 and to paste them you do control + 1, control + 2 , or something similar? anyone?	02:05
ridge-meister	cabrioleur: and i just printed a test page using the printer tool in the Administration menu	02:05
lusius	Stroganoff, odd?	02:06
Stroganoff	strange	02:06
oni	ok all i keep getting this error when i start my box up and its something like gnome deamon did not start can someone help me?	02:06
hidlan	niocholas_jones you mean simila rto the way clippy used to work?	02:06
fraroco	hello everybody, I was surfing over my firefox and I found a good podcast I like to lisent to ... but It is in .itms and the firefox does not know how to open. What can I do about it?	02:06
niocholas_jones	hidlan, yea I think so	02:06
niocholas_jones	how could I do that?	02:06
Stroganoff	niocholas_jones: sudo apt-get install glipper	02:06
niocholas_jones	no way! Stroganoff ! :)	02:07
niocholas_jones	I hope this works :)	02:07
SpudDogg	fraroco: i think rhthymbox will play that	02:07
niocholas_jones	thank youv ery much	02:07
cabrioleur	ridge-meister, did you try to restart your computer?	02:07
Flannel	fraroco: Try opening the file in a text editor, see if its actually another stream type in disguise	02:07
recurs\|ve	Stroganoff: where do i put noapic etc, after the --+	02:07
EcoBlue	cabrioleur: whadaya windows	02:07
recurs\|ve	--?	02:07
ridge-meister	cabrioleur: numerous times. you don't work for Microsoft Tech Support, do you? ;)	02:07
ChiBoy	some one please help me to copy image to SD card please someone	02:07
Stroganoff	recurs\|ve: it should be setable in the advanced options of the ubuntu install prompt	02:07
oni_	hi	02:08
cabrioleur	ridge-meister, nope, but I need more output. Did you run it in the terminal, try to print, and look for stderr output in the terminal. It might say something about it.	02:08
ridge-meister	EcoBlue: I was thinking the same thing :D	02:08
EcoBlue	ridge-meister: beat you to it	02:08
Lokii-	can i get you to power cycle you cell phone3 and see it that fixes your pc	02:08
ChiBoy	why wont any one help me	02:08
ChiBoy	am i asking for something outragious?	02:08
tsrchristopher	anyone have a recommendation for a cool system performance monitor?	02:09
SpudDogg	ChiBoy: read the damn small linux install guides...i saw it in there a long time ago	02:09
hidlan	ChiBoy I didn't see your question	02:09
recurs\|ve	Stroganoff: gave it a shot	02:09
cabrioleur	EcoBlue, you would be surprised how much solutions they share...	02:09
Flannel	ChiBoy: You'd have to boot to the SD card to get it to boot. Just opening it isn't going to work	02:09
lusius	Stroganoff, when i run my samp.exe file i get a "err:x11drv:X11DRV_CreateWindow invalid window width -248" and a big blank window	02:09
Lokii-	!copy \| chiboy	02:09
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about copy - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	02:09
Lokii-	!cp \| chiboy	02:09
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about cp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	02:09
SpudDogg	ChiBoy: actually, i assume you're trying to write an iso to a memory dongle?	02:10
ChiBoy	Flannel as i was told i cant just copy	02:10
ChiBoy	to sd	02:10
tim	рриапва п вапв ыа	02:10
ChiBoy	i know how to boot	02:10
niocholas_jones	Stroganoff, nope :/	02:10
niocholas_jones	that's close though	02:10
SpudDogg	ChiBoy: yea, seriously, read the damn small linux install guide...you will get the basic idea	02:10
Stroganoff	lusius: is your ~/.wine folder chown'd correctly? (maybe you ran winecfg as root the first time)	02:11
CMind	Stroganoff: thank you for indirectly teach me some linux/unix history :)	02:11
zeeeee	SpudDogg, i recently moved my pc to a new network, so my first guess is that that's related to the problem (as opposed to hd issues), but i can simultaneously look into the hd problem. in the meantime, are there any hints on my nis/nfs problem assuming that hd problems aren't causing it?	02:11
cabrioleur	Stroganoff, then it would be in /root/.wine	02:11
ridge-meister	cabrioleur: I tried to print my Open Office Spreadsheet file from within the program. I wouldn't have any idea how to get OO to send the print job to the terminal.	02:11
Stroganoff	cabrioleur i meant with sudo.	02:12
lusius	Stroganoff, hmm, i could try to chown all	02:12
zeeeee	SpudDogg, do you have a link to some resource describing the hd issue you're referring to?	02:12
SpudDogg	zeeeee: not that i know of. i had to replace a sata cable one time, but thats about it. that input/output error has always been a bitch for me	02:12
lusius	Stroganoff, isn't is just "chown lusius /home/lusius/.wine	02:12
oni	how do i start gnome-settings-Daemon?	02:13
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Stroganoff	lusius, chown -r ...	02:13
Stroganoff	recursive	02:13
Stroganoff	and lusius:lusius	02:13
Stroganoff	the second one is the group	02:13
Lokii-	chown -Rh user:group folder/	02:13
RifQ	#surabaya	02:13
cabrioleur	ridge-meister, another question. Are you in US?	02:13
lusius	Stroganoff, xD embarrasing xD	02:13
Lokii-	-h grabs hidden files too	02:13
RifQ	#<jakarta>	02:13
tsrchristopher	Anyone use a nice resource monitor they could recommend me?	02:14
Stroganoff	tsrchristopher, your gnome panel should offer some	02:14
oni	got it	02:14
oni	got it	02:14
Lokii-	resource monitors use resources u realize this	02:14
graphikeye	hello everyone	02:14
tsrchristopher	Stroganoff, i was aiming for something that's a little better looking than the ones provided by gnome	02:14
oni	how do i add to my gnome-settings-Daemon quikstart?	02:15
tsrchristopher	WB Lokii-	02:15
oni	how do i add to my gnome-settings-Daemon quikstart?	02:15
Lokii-	tnx	02:15
nikrud	the panel one is nice, I use the processor one with contrasting colors for the various things monitored. Nice visual tool, low resource	02:15
oni	how do i add to my gnome-settings-Daemon	02:15
cabrioleur	ridge-meister, try to change your paper size in OpenOffice.org	02:15
oni	brb	02:15
graphikeye	i have a question regarding compiz emerald theme manager: whenever i install a theme all that changes are the borders. is that normal?	02:15
Lokii-	pff topic #compiz-fusion	02:15
graphikeye	thanks	02:16
Lokii-	off*	02:16
lusius	Stroganoff, nope, same prob	02:16
hidlan	tsrchristopher I think the KDE version is more aesthetic but it probably used more resources :)	02:16
lusius	Stroganoff, -.-	02:16
Stroganoff	lusius, what are the errors in console when you run winecfg as user?	02:16
ridge-meister	cabrioleur: yeap. In USA	02:17
cabrioleur	ridge-meister, make sure your paper size is setup properly	02:18
oni	how do i add gnome-settings-Daemon to quik start	02:18
lusius	Stroganoff, none, just a abscure window popping up, but when i run samp.exe i get the "err:x11drv:X11DRV_CreateWindow invalid window width -248" and the window looks the same	02:18
Lgndryhr	for some reason my iPod will not mount now	02:18
Lgndryhr	nor can gtkpod mount it	02:18
Stroganoff	lusius, i got no idea. you could try sudo apt-get purge wine and so forth or ask in #wine	02:19
Stroganoff	or use cedega	02:19
Stroganoff	or play quake 3	02:19
lusius	Stroganoff, oki, tnx for your help anyway ^^	02:20
CMind	rryan: remastersys is great! Have to check if it have somekind of delta option for backup and I think I just found a new way to backup my workstation state!	02:20
ridge-meister	cabrioleur: it's set up to print "letter" sized paper.....stand 8.5x11 printer paper. I have been able to print with OO in the past.	02:20
sstoveld	hey guys can anyone help me with my microphone? im in the volume control, but my mic isnt picking up any sound, but it was earlier, im not sure what i did lol	02:20
lymeca	What does it mean when the "FATs don't match"?	02:21
lymeca	I'm trying to install Ubuntu on a MAcBOokk and it's warning me about the EFI partition	02:21
lymeca	and how the FATs don't mactchj	02:21
fourthdimension	does anyone know how to search within files for certain strings?	02:22
Stroganoff	niocholas_jones: http://data-manager.sourceforge.net/features.html	02:22
fourthdimension	I've got a specific number I want to edit in the gaim source.	02:22
fourthdimension	but I don't want to read thousands of lines of code in 30 different files.	02:22
nikrud	lymeca usually that would mean File Allocation Table , but I don't know efi	02:23
lymeca	It does mean that	02:23
badcarbine	What would be a good plugin to use in ubuntu to acheive a osx style doc?	02:23
fourthdimension	does anyone know how to search within files for certain strings?	02:23
niocholas_jones	Stroganoff, yea but you have to use your mouse a bit	02:23
niocholas_jones	I really don't like that :/	02:23
fourthdimension	would I have to use perl?	02:24
Lgndryhr	does anyone know how to get an iPod to mount properly in Gusty	02:24
Stroganoff	niocholas_jones: i dont know about glipper, but data-manger has customizable hotkeys	02:24
fourthdimension	or can I do it through the terminal?	02:24
Meshezabeel	fourthdimension: fgrep?	02:24
niocholas_jones	ah very nice	02:24
Bitmess	fourthdimension, cat <filename> \|grep <string>	02:24
fourthdimension	would I type "fgrep <search phrase>"?	02:24
nikrud	Lgndryhr the newer ipods (video, nano 3g) don't work properly with gutsy	02:24
Stroganoff	niocholas_jones: glipper may have them too	02:24
Lgndryhr	nikrud: i am using a 5th generation	02:24
kiru	Lgndryhr: you can just use tools like amarok and banshee	02:24
Meshezabeel	fourthdimension: man fgrep	02:24
fourthdimension	thanks a lot	02:24
kiru	Lgndryhr: because mounting won't help to access the file system	02:25
Lgndryhr	kiru: so a 5th generation wont work with gtkpod in Gusty	02:25
kiru	Lgndryhr: sorry, i dont know actually because i use only a 2nd gen ipod nano	02:26
tim	who is on Duty today?	02:26
Lgndryhr	kiru: oh k, thanks for ur help. i shall look into using amarok then since i use it to play my music	02:26
warriorforgod	Is there any way to convert a 64 bit install to a 32 bit install?	02:26
Lgndryhr	kiru: any tips on using amarok for this?	02:26
jester86	hey guys	02:26
kiru	Lgndryhr: yeah, amarok or banshee	02:26
jester86	rryan, u still here?	02:26
arooni	how do i learn how much free hard drive space i have available (command line)	02:26
warriorforgod	arooni: df -h	02:27
nikrud	Lgndryhr is the 5th gen the new ipod Classic, or earlier? earlier should work with gtkpod	02:27
kiru	Lgndryhr: if you are lucky it will run from the box	02:27
Lgndryhr	nikrud: 5th gen is the ones that first came with video capabilities....not the classic	02:27
Lgndryhr	nikrud: the classic and such are 6th gen	02:28
nikrud	Lgndryhr ok, then http://www.gtkpod.org should have info for you	02:28
tim	I can't ENbale Russian spell checking in both xchat and xchat gnome plz help me.....( i have all dictionaries and locals downloaded and installed and spell checking works in open office)	02:28
Lilacor	How do I change the authentication information for Evolution? I can't get it to run anymore.... It just runs and quits.	02:28
TheViLliN	does anyone know what package has kdecoration.h in it	02:28
nikrud	warriorforgod not without a fresh install	02:28
nikrud	TheViLliN you can do a search at packages.ubuntu.com , second form	02:30
warriorforgod	nickrud: thought so.	02:30
orkun	hey there - i try to use multisync0.90 to sync se k800i mobile with evo. if i sudo it i can connect(permissions) but evo is not set up. if i dont sudo i cannot connect(but evo gives a green light) - any hints?	02:30
recurs\|ve	i seem to be frozen at select and install software, i am stuck at 6% - any ideas?	02:30
recurs\|ve	i am installing a fresh copy. 7.10 froze here as well. i am trying 8.04	02:30
TheViLliN	nikrud: thx	02:30
EcoBlue	Anyone ever run Mandrivia/openSUSE/Fedora?	02:31
EcoBlue	And should I try any of them?	02:31
orkun	i am running hardy can i do something with this policykit?	02:31
tritium	TheViLliN: kdebase-dev (found via apt-file search kdecoration.h)	02:31
jester86	hey guys i've got a new maxtor 500g sata hdd.. only one in the machine.. it keeps messing up when i try to install ubuntu 7.10	02:31
brent113	hardy can be addressed in the channel #ubuntu+1	02:31
jester86	its a sata2 hdd	02:31
SilverDawn	man i feel like im hitting my head against a brick	02:31
SilverDawn	This damn thing just isnt working	02:32
tritium	TheViLliN: note that you could do the same if you sudo apt-get install apt-file && sudo apt-file update	02:32
aHappyJenny86	whats the room for ubuntu heron?	02:32
jester86	and for some reason it seems the partition table is messed up	02:32
tritium	aHappyJenny86: #ubuntu+1	02:32
jester86	any clues how i could fix it?	02:32
CMind	jester86: you can still find maxtor hd on the market I thought they were out of business...	02:32
marupa_	Is there any way to turn off middle-click paste systemwide?	02:32
fourthdimension	I used grep and found what I need, but how do I find the files that those strings came from?	02:32
jester86	i just bought this one from office depo 2 days ago	02:32
captaingeek	HELP!!!	02:33
brent113	fourthdimension: use 'find'	02:33
jester86	think the drive is bad?	02:33
fourthdimension	that will show me strings within files also?	02:33
TheViLliN	tritium: right on. what is the && doing?	02:33
Agent_bob	Konsole is unable to open a PTY (pseudo teletype). It is likely that this is due to an incorrect configuration of the PTY devices. Konsole needs to have read/write access to the PTY devices. <<< ?	02:33
brent113	fourthd: or you can click places->search for files, then specify file contents	02:33
fourthdimension	I want to find one line of code in a huge source folder.	02:33
captaingeek	/var/log/user.log and /var/log/syslog are 22.5GB each!!!	02:33
fourthdimension	ah.	02:33
CMind	jester86: I have a bad history with maxtor. Maybe I'm not a reference	02:33
fourthdimension	thanks.	02:33
captaingeek	that's 45GB!!!	02:33
captaingeek	does anyone care?!	02:33
tritium	TheViLliN: it'll run the second command after the first command completes	02:34
Lokii-	TheViLliN, the && does the same thing as when you seperate comands with ;	02:34
jester86	cmind, if u were me what whould u do?	02:34
Agent_bob	Lokii- no.	02:34
jester86	would*	02:34
EcoBlue	Seagate 500GB, 32MB Cache, SATA 3.0Gb/s	02:34
nikrud	TheViLliN note that the second command won't run if the first errors out	02:34
captaingeek	helooooo!!	02:34
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CMind	get a Seagate or Western Digital instead	02:34
brent113	captaingeek: you can delete the logs if you want	02:34
artenius	captaingeek: delete them?	02:34
earl	hey guys. I have a vista partition and decided to try to steal some fonts off of it - notably calibri. now when i try to use it it shows up as all boxes.	02:34
Lokii-	!hi \| captaingeek	02:35
ubotu	captaingeek: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!	02:35
TheViLliN	wow, that could come in usefull	02:35
EcoBlue	earl: install vista	02:35
earl	what i did was i took the ttf files and put them in /usr/share/fonts/truetype/msttcorefonts	02:35
captaingeek	ok they're deletable?	02:35
nikrud	earl you put them in ~/.fonts ?	02:35
earl	...oh.	02:35
brent113	yes, just do it	02:35
Flannel	captaingeek: Are they not rotating properly? or do you just have that much stuff going on the past 24 hours?	02:35
earl	that sounds like a much better idea.	02:35
CMind	jester86: in my experience maxtor are more prone to brake	02:35
nikrud	earl but I would kinda expect them to work where you put them	02:35
xyyzzz	I know this isn't strictly a Ubuntu question, but I'd appreciate any help. I just downloaded RealPlayer10GOLD.bin, and when I double click it it asks what the best application is to open it with...	02:36
Agent_bob	Lokii- exec0 ; exec1 both execute no matter what. exec0 && exec1 exec1 only executes if exec0 returns 0 exit code and exec0 \|\| exec1 exec1 only runs if 0 was exitcode grater than zero	02:36
jester86	alright	02:36
jester86	thanks cmind	02:36
xyyzzz	I thought a .bin was a binary, and that it would just... open...	02:36
xyyzzz	Does anybody have any suggestions?	02:36
nikrud	earl did you get all the versions of calibri from vista?	02:36
jester86	i think i'm gonna order a new one off newegg	02:36
Lokii-	ah	02:36
CMind	jester86: still hard drive is not a perfect science.	02:36
EcoBlue	jester86: Seagate all the way	02:36
numus	I am trying to install ubuntu 8.04 but it is stuck at the migrate window and i cant click foward	02:36
Lokii-	good to know agent_bob	02:37
Flannel	Agent_bob: no, thats backwards.	02:37
brent113	xyyzzz: yuo have to set the executable permission	02:37
nikrud	xyyzzz you need to make the file executable first	02:37
earl	nikrud: you mean like italics and bold and such?	02:37
Agent_bob	anyone know what might cause my error ?	02:37
nikrud	earl yes.	02:37
Agent_bob	Konsole is unable to open a PTY (pseudo teletype). It is likely that this is due to an incorrect configuration of the PTY devices. Konsole needs to have read/write access to the PTY devices. <<< ?	02:37
brent113	xyzzz: cd to the directory and chmod a+x [filename]	02:37
xyyzzz	o0o0oh... I didn't think of that, thanks nikrud and brent113 :)	02:37
nikrud	Agent_bob maybe someone on #kubuntu will know	02:37
xyyzzz	Will give that a go =)	02:37
Dr_Link	Does Ubuntu come with DVD video codecs installed? (Asked this earlier, was AFK when I got an answer, now I can't get it back 'cause I can't scroll up any higher)	02:37
Lokii-	xyyzzz or can prolly do sh filename.bin	02:37
nikrud	!dvd \| Dr_Link	02:38
ubotu	Dr_Link: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs	02:38
earl	nikrud: as far as i know...	02:38
Dr_Link	nikrud: Well, I'm on 7.10.	02:38
Dr_Link	Not 7.04	02:38
Agent_bob	Flannel ?	02:38
CMind	jester86: My friend is in the data recovery business and he have LOTS of dead maxtor stacked compared to seagate and WD.. Seagate or WD are not a replacement to backup tho ... ;)	02:38
nikrud	earl it was just an idea, and probably not a good one	02:38
nikrud	Dr_Link see !medibuntu for 7.10	02:39
Flannel	Agent_bob: Hmm, no, it's not backwards. It just defies logic.	02:39
snarkster	is there anyway to make my sidekick mount with user priviliges all the time?	02:39
Dr_Link	!medibuntu for 7.10	02:39
N37W0rK	does any1 know how to chat to someone through bash?	02:39
earl	nikrud: there's no ~/.fonts	02:39
EcoBlue	What do I install to make ubuntu cool and awesome and really good?	02:39
CMind	jester86: by there I mean that a good hard drive is not a replacement to backups	02:39
earl	just ~/.fontconfig	02:39
earl	should i make one?	02:39
nikrud	earl you'd create it	02:39
Agent_bob	Flannel any clue on my error ?	02:39
Agent_bob	Konsole is unable to open a PTY (pseudo teletype). It is likely that this is due to an incorrect configuration of the PTY devices. Konsole needs to have read/write access to the PTY devices. <<< ?	02:39
snarkster	cause using sudo thunar all the tim eis a pain in the butt	02:39
artenius	N37W0rK: talk, wall, etc man talk	02:39
EcoBlue	Agent_bob: you broke it	02:39
jester86	yeah i know	02:39
ridge-meister	anyone here familiar with Open Office printing issues? I can't get my OO Spreadsheet to print	02:40
earl	okay now what - restart x? reboot?	02:40
Agent_bob	EcoBlue yeah. just not sure how	02:40
EcoBlue	Agent_bob: Permission errors afaik	02:40
brent113	ridge-meister: what problem are you having?	02:40
yossman	hi guys, where would i go to get assistance with evolution, is there a specific channel?	02:41
yossman	evolution's import features are stupid man	02:41
EcoBlue	Oh man, I booted up ubuntu on my new LCD Monitor, and it set it to the right resolution automatically	02:41
yossman	its like, 'hey we'll help you migrate away from other tools like outlook and thunderbird, but migrating from one evolution install to another? fu!	02:41
Agent_bob	EcoBlue changed all /dev/pt* to 666 no change (exception being the mountpoint /dev/pts of course)	02:41
yossman	'what would you want to do that for?	02:41
nikrud	has anyone ever used the open office wysiyg web creator? Just curious	02:41
EcoBlue	Agent_bob: Why did you do this? what'd you do before this happened?	02:41
Lokii-	N37W0rK, same guys from soundstream ?	02:42
ridge-meister	brent113: i can't get OO Calc (spreadsheet) to print. the printer says "receiving data", then nothing happens. the printer doesn't even start the process of printing. am able to print web pages fine with Firefox	02:42
Agent_bob	EcoBlue i "did this" thinking it might be a permissions issue.	02:42
brent113	ridge-meister: other documenta print fine?	02:42
Agent_bob	EcoBlue i.e. it doesn't seem to be permissions.	02:42
N37W0rK	huh?	02:42
Lokii-	are you opn soundstream irc ?	02:43
N37W0rK	no	02:43
ridge-meister	brent113: yeap. none of the OO proggies are printing, apparently	02:43
Lokii-	k same spelling too	02:43
Agent_bob	EcoBlue more like a missing device node or something.	02:43
earl	nikrud: okay now what - restart x? reboot?	02:43
Lokii-	LoL	02:43
nikrud	earl just run fc-cache in a terminal, should rebuild the font cache	02:43
brent113	ridge-meister: have you looked at this: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-71098.html	02:44
Lokii-	nice tab spaces the big button in the middle of your keyboard broken ?	02:44
ridge-meister	brent113: just printed a test page with gedit	02:44
ridge-meister	brent, nope...thanks...will look at it	02:44
Agent_bob	well i'll try this from another angle, there is more than one way to skin a cat.	02:45
Agent_bob	thanks anyway.	02:45
xyyzzz	brent113, nikrud, Lokii-, I still get the same error... and when I tried "sh RealPlayerGOLD10.bin" it said: "cannot execute binary file"	02:45
Broam	Evening all. No questions today :)	02:45
xyyzzz	I wonder why it's doing this =/	02:45
nikrud	Lokii- I try to separate the commands clearly from surrounding text, some times I get confused ;)	02:45
Lokii-	heh	02:45
brent113	xyzzz: so you definitely set the executable bit?	02:45
earl	nikrud: they're not getting recognized at all now, where i put them	02:46
Lokii-	xyyzzz are you sure its not a cd image bin/cue ?	02:46
xyyzzz	brent113, yep. I tried it using "chmod a+x" and when that didn't work I also used "chmod 777"...	02:46
jester86	anyone know if windows will allow a fat32 partition 250gb?	02:46
Lokii-	LoL	02:46
xyyzzz	Loki--, nope, I've no idea. I just downloaded it from the real.com website. How would I find out?	02:46
Lokii-	xyyzzz are you sure its not a cd image bin/cue ?hold up	02:46
nikrud	earl very strange. I did the same thing with my fonts, worked, and has worked for years	02:46
brent113	xyyzzz: when you double click a bin with the executable set it will ask you if you want to run in terminal or display	02:46
Lokii-	hold up ima grab it and have a looks here	02:46
tim__	пап ап вап ав пва ап	02:47
Lokii-	use terminal	02:47
icesword	!hi	02:47
ubotu	Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!	02:47
ridge-meister	brent113: sorry, that link is of no use	02:47
earl	i'll do some research	02:47
earl	thanks	02:47
nikrud	!ru\| tim__	02:47
ubotu	tim__: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke	02:47
brent113	ridge-meister: yea, sorry, I'm looking still, I haven't given up hope yet :P	02:47
pyrak	if i ping a box on my lan by calling it's dyndns, will my router be smart enough to only hop within the lan?	02:47
Lokii-	xyyzzz can you link me toi the file i don't wanna go looking	02:47
Lokii-	LoL	02:47
brent113	likii: i've installed it before, it's an executable	02:48
ridge-meister	brent113: my issue isn't that i have an amd64 :D I have a PIII....sssshhh	02:48
nikrud	pyrak try tracepath , see where it goes	02:48
xyyzzz	brent113, it says "Open RealPlayer10GOLD.bin" and other files of type unknown with: "Recommended Applications: [none]" "Other Applications: [a huge list...]"	02:48
xyyzzz	But there's no terminal in the list.	02:48
orkun	hey there - i want /dev/bus/004/002 to be owned by my user - i created the udev rule SUBSYSTEM=="usb", ATTRS{idVendor}=="0fce", ATTRS{idProduct}=="d039", MODE="0660", OWNER="orkun" - have i done a mistake?	02:48
xyyzzz	Lokii, sure, hold on a sec	02:48
Lokii-	well then if its not chowned by root he should be able to chmod +x file.bin	02:48
orkun	the fields are correct	02:48
Lokii-	and sh file.bin	02:48
pyrak	nikrud, what's the syntax? tracepath domain.dyndns.org?	02:48
nikrud	pyrak yes	02:48
nikrud	pyrak a useful trick tracepath --help , works for 99.44% of command line stuff	02:49
brent113	ridge-meister: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=329009 this link looks promising	02:50
nikrud	pyrak except for tracepath, it's -help (one of the .66%)	02:50
pyrak	nikrud, yeah, i was noticing :P thanks for the tip!	02:51
Y-Town	anyone know if ubuntu 8.04 will be LTS for server as well?	02:51
xyyzzz	Lokii-, I used: http://www.real.com/linux	02:51
nikrud	Y-Town yes	02:51
xyyzzz	It was just over 5MB iirc...	02:51
Lokii-	sec	02:51
Lokii-	got stuff in my hands	02:51
login_	hey all	02:51
brent113	xyyzzz: maybe this is a dumb questions, have you tried synaptec to install it?	02:51
Y-Town	nikrud: Thanx	02:51
icesword	hello	02:52
xyyzzz	brent113, nope, I tried apt-get and it couldn't find it... so I assumed synaptec couldn't either =/	02:52
nikrud	brent113 won't work, it's not a package in an ubuntu repo	02:52
brent113	sudo apt-get install realplayer	02:52
nikrud	icesword hello there	02:52
TheGreatGonzo	what universe is realplayer in?	02:53
brent113	o snap, realplayer is a blank package, my bad	02:53
Lokii-	the evil one	02:53
nikrud	TheGreatGonzo it's not in any ubuntu repo anymore	02:53
xyyzzz	brent113, I get "package realplayer has no installation candidate"	02:53
TheGreatGonzo	ok thx..	02:53
brent113	yea, me too, that's my bad	02:53
xyyzzz	Do you think I should download the file again and maybe this error will go away?	02:54
TheGreatGonzo	what file are you trying to run for the install?	02:54
xyyzzz	I'm just double clicking "RealPlayer10GOLD.bin" =/	02:54
Lokii-	HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK	02:55
Lokii-	Length: 5,790,356 (5.5M) [application/octet-stream]	02:55
Lokii-	100%[====================================>] 5,790,356 490.17K/s ETA 00:00	02:55
Lokii-	19:54:14 (516.69 KB/s) - `RealPlayer10GOLD.bin' saved [5790356/5790356]	02:55
Lokii-	lokii@CIA-Terminal1:~/realplayer$ ls -ls	02:55
Lokii-	total 5662	02:55
FloodBot3	Lokii-: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.	02:55
Lokii-	5662 -rw-r--r-- 1 lokii lokii 5790356 2007-08-09 12:36 RealPlayer10GOLD.bin	02:55
xyyzzz	Which is what it downloaded from the website (www.real.com/linux)	02:55
Lokii-	whoops	02:55
CMind	Some can tell me how to disable compiz (oposite of compiz --replace)	02:55
TheGreatGonzo	do a chmod +x on that .bin file..	02:55
nikrud	CMind metacity --replace	02:56
brent113	xyyzzz: you could download the redhat package and alien it to a deb	02:56
CMind	thx	02:56
Lokii-	cmind metacity --replace&	02:56
IdleOne	CMind, System > Prefs > Appearance > Desktop Effects > None	02:56
Lokii-	goes to ubuntu default from install	02:56
Lokii-	just do metacity --replace&	02:56
Lokii-	quicker	02:56
dgilmore	so who can tell me if upstart understands co:2345:respawn:/sbin/agetty ttyS0 9600 vt100-nav in /etc/inittab and if not why not	02:56
* nikrud types faster than he mouses		02:56
xyyzzz	TheGreatGonzo: I did that again, and it still doesn't know how to open it =/	02:56
tim	wtf it !!! says that Fedora 9 beta released featuring firefox 3.0 beta 5	02:56
tim	It can't be !!!	02:56
tim	here is their release notes saying that Fedora 9 beta includes NOW firefox 3.0 beta 5 https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2008-March/msg00011.html	02:57
Lokii-	or from xchat xyyzzz	02:57
Lokii-	hrm	02:57
Lokii-	http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/61089/	02:57
xyyzzz	Lokii-, I haven't tried that yet. Is it easy?	02:57
nikrud	dgilmore you need to add that def to /etc/event.d , inittab is depreciated	02:57
MUS4SHIII	anyone know about sensor issues with Inspiron 1000's	02:57
xyyzzz	I don't know anything about redhat =/	02:57
anik	hi	02:57
Lokii-	huh?	02:57
Lokii-	i never mentioned redhat	02:57
dgilmore	nikrud: thanks	02:57
CMind	Thx guys	02:57
EcoBlue	31F out, hate this heatwave	02:57
joeyjojo	Just upgrade my video card to Nividia Geforce 8800gt	02:57
nikrud	wise man Lokii- , someone else mentioned the evil alien	02:57
joeyjojo	its not working	02:57
xyyzzz	Sorry I meant brent113...	02:57
Lokii-	tbh i don't like redhat that much	02:58
xyyzzz	brent113: How do you alien a redhat package to a deb?	02:58
Lokii-	but	02:58
Lokii-	i do use there community enterprise server os	02:58
nikrud	joeyjojo the nvidia driver in ubuntu 7.10 doesn't support the 8800gt, you either need to go to 8.04 or get the driver from nvidia's site	02:58
joeyjojo	for real?	02:58
brent113	xyyzzz: it can be done, I'd focus on getting the bin to work though	02:58
tim	I got A Video card which non of the Distros support for 3d acceleration it only works in VESA in all of the DISTROS !!!!!!!	02:58
Lokii-	CEntOS and java get along quite well	02:58
xyyzzz	=(	02:58
Lokii-	ls -ls	02:58
xyyzzz	Back to square one then.	02:59
xyyzzz	I'm not sure why it's not working...	02:59
joeyjojo	I am downloading x/ubuntu 8.02 now	02:59
joeyjojo	=)	02:59
nikrud	joeyjojo yup. nvidia didn't provide support until after 7.10 was released	02:59
AnthraxDream	Can anyone help me figure out why my wireless isn't working on ubuntu?	02:59
xyyzzz	brent113: Do you think it could be because I'm running Xubuntu instead of Ubuntu? Maybe Xubuntu doesn't support it...	02:59
brent113	xyyzzz: do a md5sum [file] on that for me, and paste the output	02:59
AnthraxDream	I've checked FAQs I've searched google	02:59
MUS4SHIII	anyone know anything about inspiron 1000 Ubuntu sensors	02:59
AnthraxDream	Everything points to it working	02:59
AnthraxDream	I just can't connect to a WEP encrypted connection using ubuntu	02:59
joeyjojo	nikrud: have you tried ubuntu 8.04? is it reasonably stable?	03:00
nikrud	joeyjojo eh. I'd suggest you go question the people on #ubuntu+1 for details	03:00
joeyjojo	nikrud: I did try kubuntu w/ kde4 and it was too dam buggy	03:00
CMind	AnthraxDream: have you tried to put your nic in monitor or promisc mode?	03:00
nikrud	joeyjojo and will be for some time	03:00
AnthraxDream	What's that?	03:00
joeyjojo	yeah, i hear you it is not a final release... YET	03:00
AnthraxDream	I'm using the latest ubuntu version and it's my first experience with linux	03:01
CMind	joeyjojo: I'm running 8.04 in a Quad display development environment and it works great!	03:01
xyyzzz	brent113, it said: ca87acf8e0cdf928cf31ca381acf04f2 RealPlayer10Gold.bin	03:01
nikrud	joeyjojo I'm thinking of kde4 itself, everything I hear tells me to wait for 4.2 or so to give it an honest chance	03:01
AnthraxDream	The lack of sound and wireless problems are really turning me off	03:01
Y-Town	AnthraxDream: What you think of it?	03:01
xyyzzz	I'm not sure if they were 0's or O's, but I think they were 0's...	03:01
EcoBlue	I'm just getting used to one LCD	03:01
brent113	xyyzzz: mmk, that's what i get to: ok, here's what I do to install it	03:01
Schmeiz	hey	03:01
CMind	AnthraxDream: if you dont know what is it.. the card is not in that mode ;)	03:01
Schmeiz	uhm	03:01
AnthraxDream	Well how would I go about doing it?	03:02
joeyjojo	nikrud: ok. I will try 8.04 tomorrow	03:02
joeyjojo	thanks guys!	03:02
Schmeiz	is their a way i can nudge the screen location on my monitor without using the monitor buttons?	03:02
Lokii-	zyyzzz	03:02
Lokii-	do sudo apt-get install libstdc++5	03:02
brent113	xyyzzz: its sitting on my desktop, I did chmod a+x, then ./Real[rest of filename]	03:02
Schmeiz	the buttons on my monitor are broken and the resolution i have, the screen is too far to the left and some icons are lost	03:02
EcoBlue	Schmeiz: you could move your hand, and nudge the monitor	03:02
EcoBlue	:)	03:02
Lokii-	then ./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin	03:02
brent113	xyyzzz: It extracts the files and asks to continue, that's how it should work	03:02
joeyjojo	good GOD not real player that sux the donkey	03:02
AnthraxDream	Y-Town: It's really good except for the sound andwireless problems	03:03
Schmeiz	er	03:03
xyyzzz	brent113, thanks I will try that	03:03
Lokii-	zyyzzz	03:03
Lokii-	do sudo apt-get install libstdc++5	03:03
Lokii-	then ./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin	03:03
Lokii-	will install fine	03:03
Lokii-	its installing for me right now	03:03
Schmeiz	i mean is their something inside of ubuntu that will allow me to edit the screen with more than just the resolution	03:03
brent113	lokii: what's that	03:03
EcoBlue	I dunno	03:03
TheGreatGonzo	yep...that's the ticket..	03:03
Schmeiz	cuz the only button that works on my monitor right now is power	03:03
EcoBlue	Why would you run REALPLAYER?	03:03
brent113	you thinkin he's missing some libraries?	03:03
Lokii-	brent113 he prolly needs that library	03:03
joeyjojo	yeah why?	03:03
Lokii-	also i had him trying to execute it with sh	03:04
CMind	I'm using Xinerama in quad display 1 over 3 and I would like to have the gnome bars in both screen sets... anyone have an idea what option I should put in xorg.conf for that ?	03:04
Lokii-	;p	03:04
joanki	can anyone help me get aim?	03:04
AnthraxDream	CMind: how do Iput my card in the mode you mentioned?	03:04
joeyjojo	VLC, Mplayer, anything is better that realcrap networks	03:04
EcoBlue	joanki: install pidgin	03:04
Lokii-	joanki download pidgin	03:04
Lokii-	that is aim	03:04
* nikrud is verrrry jealous of CMind		03:04
TheGreatGonzo	aim? use pigdin..dude.	03:04
joanki	sudo apt-get install pidgin	03:04
TheGreatGonzo	pidgin..	03:04
TheGreatGonzo	can't type..	03:04
Lokii-	actually ubuntu 7.10 comes with it already installed	03:04
CMind	AnthraxDream: What is your Wifi card?	03:04
Lokii-	you don't get a choice in the matter	03:04
joanki	?	03:04
EcoBlue	I want pigdin	03:04
Peddy	can someone please tell me how to install libflashsupport in Gutsy?	03:04
brent113	Menu->Internet->Pidgin	03:05
AnthraxDream	CMind: Realtek something or other	03:05
Scunizi	!flash \| Peddy	03:05
ubotu	Peddy: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash	03:05
Peddy	Scunizi: so is flash libflashsupport? Apparently I need it to get flash working with Pulseaudio	03:05
Scunizi	Peddy, are you on Hardy?	03:06
Peddy	Scunizi: nope, gutsy	03:06
Scunizi	Peddy, ok.. sorry I don't really have an answer to your question.. but I think you're right.. libflashsupport is flash.	03:06
Lokii-	are you talking about the flashplayer plugin for ff	03:06
Schmeiz	so i guess their isn't a way to adjust the screen within ubuntu? ( my monitor buttons no longer work, the desktop is shifted to the left off screen and some buttons are missing, and i need to move it back)	03:06
xyyzzz	Lokii-: It's asking for my Xubuntu install CD, which I can't find @tm =(	03:07
xyyzzz	Is there any way I can have it downloaded?	03:07
Lokii-	apt-get install haha yeah erm	03:07
Peddy	Scunizi: I found this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=617142&page=2	03:07
Lokii-	err	03:07
Scunizi	Schmeiz, are you using a lcd or crt	03:07
Schmeiz	crt	03:07
Peddy	Scunizi: I am using 64 bit, so this might help	03:07
nikrud	!gutsysources \| xyyzzz	03:07
ubotu	xyyzzz: gutsysources is in System->Admin->Software Sources, enable (main) (universe) (restricted) and (multiverse) and disable the Cdrom on the Ubuntu Software tab. On the Updates tab, enable (gutsy-security) and (gutsy-updates).	03:07
joanki	thanks all i have aim now	03:07
Schmeiz	Scunizi: CRT	03:07
Lokii-	xxyyzzz yeah ytou need to edit your repos so it grabs the stuff on the cd from the net	03:07
Scunizi	Peddy, ah.. 64bit.. sorry.. there are issues there with flash.. maybe someone else can help	03:07
xyyzzz	Okay, will do that. Thanks nikrud & Lokii- :))	03:08
ejm	atheros help needed!	03:08
Silencedbear	Would someone be able to help me with a java issue if they have time please message me ty.	03:08
nikrud	!ask \| Silencedbear	03:08
ubotu	Silencedbear: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)	03:08
Scunizi	Schmeiz, no reason your buttons shouldn't work.. Ubuntu shouldn't be able to turn them off.. are they broken?	03:08
derek	anyone here familiar with virtualbox	03:08
CMind	AnthraxDream: I need the specific model if your want me to help you	03:08
Schmeiz	yeah they are broken, like they physically no longer work except for deguass (which is its own button)	03:08
Schmeiz	i can't bring up the montior menu	03:08
Schmeiz	to move the image on screen	03:09
Lokii-	derek i tried to use virtualbox but i kept on getting some errors which i can't remember atm	03:09
AnthraxDream	Cmind: My bad. Gimme a sec	03:09
* Lunks gives AnthraxDream		03:09
Schmeiz	so i was wondering if i could do it inside ubuntu	03:09
Lokii-	so i just installed vmware workstation	03:09
Lokii-	works awesome	03:09
Scunizi	Schmeiz, to bad you don't live close I'd give you a new monitor.. there's lots out there for the asking ... crt's that is.	03:09
Schmeiz	well i like this one because its a really high def CRT	03:09
Silencedbear	I have ubuntu 7.10. I have tried to install java 6 like 5 times now and even different java's the tea one and it says its installed even when i go to the java site but firefox is asking for a plugin for it and when i select the java 6 it says its already installed Im clueless. I'm a new linux user if anyone has any suggestions or advice i would appreciate it.	03:09
zcat[1]	Schmeiz: X used to have options for adjusting all the video card/monitor timing .. not sure if that's still accessable though	03:09
derek	im having a hard time getting my mouse to capture	03:10
Lunks	I'm having trouble using Zoneminder on Ubuntu. I'm getting some hangs	03:10
derek	its my first time using it	03:10
Schmeiz	i've got my resolution at 1600x1200 so i can keep a lot on there.	03:10
brent113	lokii: have you tried virtualbox? I used to use vmware, I like vbox a LOT better though	03:10
Scunizi	Schmeiz, yea.. I just gave away a 19+" hi res..	03:10
AnthraxDream	CMind: Realtek 8185	03:10
Scunizi	Schmeiz, you gotta have good eyes for that.. must be under 30	03:10
Schmeiz	lol yeah :P	03:10
Marupa_	Is there any way to make gnome-terminal emit a beep through the sound card, on terminal-bell?	03:10
Lokii-	derek if you want vmware message me privately	03:10
brent113	lokii: ah, see your earlier post. thats too bad	03:10
Lokii-	i could never get vbox to work	03:11
ka2	i have vbox working	03:11
brent113	I find vbox a LOT more responsive	03:11
brent113	plus, vmware doesn't support my usb	03:11
Scunizi	derek, vmware server is available free off vmware's site.. easy to download and install.. works like a champ	03:11
Silencedbear	Nikrud well any solutions ?	03:11
ka2	vbox is nice	03:11
Schmeiz	Scunizi: i dont even know why the buttons stopped working, it stopped back in windows XP, when i had my resolution already set and the screen shifted properlly, then one day the buttons just stopped responding	03:11
sstoveld	hey guys, how do i install a game using wine? such as warcraft 3 or starcraft	03:11
xyyzzz	Okay, I have to surrender the computer to my brother for the next hour or so. I will try your suggestions after that.	03:12
brent113	vmware server can't do multimedia and doesn't support sound. vbox would be a better choice	03:12
xyyzzz	Thank you all for your help, Lokii-, nikrud & brent113 :)	03:12
xyyzzz	Have a good day =)	03:12
brent113	you too	03:12
TaRDy	does any1 know what I can do if a command for tcl works on tcl cli first but not in my expect script?	03:12
Scunizi	Schmeiz, unplug it and take the case off.. could just be a problem with the switches.. a little contact cleaner or a pencil eraser might fix it.	03:12
Svenstaro	sstoveld there you are AGAIN! :P	03:12
Silencedbear	anyone can help me troubleshoot this java ?	03:12
brent113	!ask \| silencedbear	03:12
Lokii-	later xxyyzzz	03:12
ubotu	silencedbear: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)	03:12
Silencedbear	I asked already	03:12
sstoveld	Svenstaro, hehe yeah, im still here!	03:12
Silencedbear	SCROLL	03:12
Lokii-	VMware.Workstation.v6.0.2.59824	03:12
brent113	it was?	03:12
CMind	Sorry AnthraxDream, my girlfriend is in the bed, I gtg..	03:12
Lokii-	is what i use	03:12
Schmeiz	Scunizi: i'll try that. BRB	03:13
sstoveld	Svenstaro, decided to try to install a game, first time	03:13
WindowSmasher	Can anyone help me with questions regarding the slab / gnome-main-menu ???	03:13
Silencedbear	I have ubuntu 7.10. I have tried to install java 6 like 5 times now and even different java's the tea one and it says its installed even when i go to the java site but firefox is asking for a plugin for it and when i select the java 6 it says its already installed Im clueless. I'm a new linux user if anyone has any suggestions or advice i would appreciate it.	03:13
Svenstaro	sstoveld, neat :) windows orl linux game?	03:13
brent113	ah, mmk, let's see now	03:13
CMind	AnthraxDream: maybe that could help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=191776&highlight=realtek+8185	03:13
WindowSmasher	I want to use the integrated search option, but can not find a howto	03:13
sstoveld	Svenstaro, windows	03:13
AnthraxDream	Thanks for the help C	03:13
nikrud	Silencedbear sorry, had beta issues here.	03:13
Scunizi	Silencedbear, now that IS a question.. :)	03:13
Lokii-	silenced bear did you ln -s java /usr/bin/java ?	03:13
Silencedbear	no :(	03:13
fa1sal	hi all :)	03:13
Lokii-	this is how i install java	03:13
Silencedbear	<<< i have no clue to use linux i know a few basic commands thats all.	03:13
nikrud	Silencedbear don't do that	03:14
Lokii-	ok	03:14
astro76	Silencedbear: did you install sun-java6-plugin ?	03:14
Silencedbear	it says its installed	03:14
Lokii-	mkdir /usr/java	03:14
Silencedbear	for firefox yes i tried this	03:14
Lokii-	cd /usr/java	03:14
WindowSmasher	Anyone?	03:14
Svenstaro	sstoveld, wget -q http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/387EE263.gpg -O- \| sudo apt-key add - && sudo wget http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/sources.list.d/gutsy.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/winehq.list && sudo apt-get update	03:14
Lokii-	wget link.to.java.binary	03:14
fa1sal	how to upgrade firefox ??	03:14
Silencedbear	can someone pm my please. to much going on at once in here	03:14
brent113	lokii: you should use the package in the repository instead	03:14
nikrud	Silencedbear a sec, there's a package to uninstall that should fix it	03:14
Scunizi	WindowSmasher, right click on the upper task bar and choose add to panel	03:15
brent113	fa1sal: download the firefox package you want from the site	03:15
Lokii-	silenced bear canyou get my messages ?	03:15
fa1sal	how	03:15
ka2	fa1sal: to what version?	03:15
nikrud	Silencedbear first, sudo apt-get remove gcjwebplugin , then test your java	03:15
Silencedbear	ok nikrud ty. i just installed yesterday and it updated and it made it not work	03:15
fa1sal	2.0.0.6	03:15
sstoveld	Svenstaro, k done	03:15
Scunizi	WindowSmasher, then add "Deskbar" .. that's the search tool	03:15
Svenstaro	sstoveld, sudo apt-get install wine	03:15
ka2	fa1sal: update manager	03:16
Svenstaro	sstoveld, it should install wine at version 0.9.58 watch out that it installs this very version	03:16
fa1sal	ok ka2	03:16
Silencedbear	ok nick let my try now.	03:16
WindowSmasher	Deskbar is a separate search tool. Is there no integrated search bar in the gnome-main-menu like on suse?	03:16
fa1sal	thank you man	03:16
Scunizi	WindowSmasher, yes there is.. Places.. Search for Files	03:17
sstoveld	Svenstaro, yup 0.9.58	03:17
Svenstaro	goodie	03:17
Scunizi	WindowSmasher, top left of the screen	03:17
Schmeiz	ugh i can't freakin open my CRT monitor	03:17
Svenstaro	sstoveld, winecfg	03:17
brent113	schmeiz...you're opening a crt?	03:18
WindowSmasher	Scunizi: This is what I'm asking about http://suseforums.net/index.php?showtopic=47042	03:18
Silencedbear	nikrud it still is the same thing.	03:18
Scunizi	Schmeiz, careful.. there's capacitors in there that will throw you a few feet	03:18
aubade	brent113: Famous last words, log 'em.	03:18
brent113	not the capacitors you're worried about. the ray tub is a giant capacitor	03:18
nikrud	Silencedbear what version of java is the sun test site saying you have?	03:18
Silencedbear	now it is asking to install java runtime envirotment.	03:18
brent113	charged at a few hundred thousand volts	03:18
sstoveld	k	03:18
nclife	I am able to connect to the internet with an ethernet cable but not with a usb 2, is that because of some configuration that I need to change? as in make it a plug-and-play or something of that sort?	03:19
nikrud	Silencedbear , hm. Lets install what should work, then consider removing stuff: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin	03:19
Silencedbear	JRE version 1.4.2_02-ea	03:19
numus	ok why when i try to run ubuntu.. busybox opens	03:19
brent113	nclife: any reason you're trying to get internetz out of a usb?	03:19
Svenstaro	sstoveld, exit the setup again, we only needed it to generate the structure, now put in whatever game you want to install and type "wine setup of the game.exe"	03:19
Silencedbear	wait now its saying theres no verison	03:20
Scunizi	WindowSmasher, looks like an icon that might access "find" or "locate" or tracker.. hard to tell. I think on Ubuntu it's just in a different location unless it's an entirely different app.	03:20
Schmeiz	Scunizi: lol thanks for the advice, i know :P i've accidently touched one in an old TV and lost feeling in 3 fingers for 2 hours	03:20
Scunizi	Schmeiz, you got curley hair too now right?	03:20
nikrud	!gutsysources \| Silencedbear (do this which will allow you to install those packages)	03:20
ubotu	Silencedbear (do this which will allow you to install those packages): gutsysources is in System->Admin->Software Sources, enable (main) (universe) (restricted) and (multiverse) and disable the Cdrom on the Ubuntu Software tab. On the Updates tab, enable (gutsy-security) and (gutsy-updates).	03:20
Silencedbear	ok	03:20
Lokii-	!pastebin	03:20
ubotu	pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)	03:20
Schmeiz	Scunizi: always had curly hair :P	03:20
sstoveld	thanks :)	03:20
brent113	schmeiz: well did it straighten it then?	03:21
nclife	brent113, yes, my roomate needs my ethernet cable.	03:21
Scunizi	Schmeiz, ok.. so now it's straight ;)	03:21
brent113	nclife: and what is this usb going to?	03:21
Schmeiz	nah, it was a couple years ago	03:21
TaRDy	does any1 know what I can do if a command for tcl works on tcl cli first but not in my expect script?	03:21
Lokii-	Silencedbear	03:21
Schmeiz	and i had touched it before plugging it in, it had been off for about 5 years	03:21
Lokii-	just do these simple steps	03:21
Lokii-	http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/61092/	03:21
Scunizi	Schmeiz, it's amazing how long they will hold a charge	03:21
WindowSmasher	Scunizi: I'm talking about the search bar on top of the menu. Are you following me?	03:22
nclife	brent113, our modem only has one ethernet and one usb connection	03:22
Schmeiz	Scunizi: they should really try using that kind of technology with modern day batteries for portable devices.	03:22
Svenstaro	sstoveld, if you need help or tips at installing something or if you wanna look up if some app is gonna run on Ubuntu, check http://appdb.winehq.org/	03:22
brent113	nclife: generally you can only use one at a time	03:22
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Lokii-	nclife and brent113 are in same room ?	03:22
sstoveld	Svenstaro, ok thanks a lot :)	03:22
TaRDy	hmm I just learned /exit oops	03:23
Scunizi	WindowSmasher, ah.. gotcha. I had missed that.. looks like an entirely different menu structure.. they just put it in a different place and made it look different. Places/Search for files.. you can create a shortcut for it on a bar someplace.	03:23
nclife	brent113, well the thing the usb cable won't work at all in my comp, whether someone is using the ethernet or not	03:23
Silencedbear	nikrud it is already chcecked for those 2 boxes.	03:23
nikrud	Lokii- that is not particularly good advice for ubuntu. It has an interesting alternatives system for handling java in various forms, and the plugins. Besides, your instructions don't have anything about setting up the plugins for firefox	03:23
Marupa_	How do I check what USB hubs are using how much power on my system?	03:23
nikrud	Silencedbear first four on the first tab?	03:23
brent113	nclife: ok, one second, I'm going to do some research	03:23
brent113	nclife: what modem is it?	03:24
Silencedbear	yes than it has for server united staes	03:24
Silencedbear	and below that has ubuntu cd	03:24
nclife	brent113, thanks. motorola SBG900	03:24
nikrud	Silencedbear no, look above that: there are 5 checkmarks, check the first 4	03:24
minhson	hello	03:24
Silencedbear	under ubuntu software i have 4 check boxes and a minus sign	03:25
badcarbine	hi minhson	03:25
dek	how can I make OpenSSH server not start at startup (that it has to be started manually after booting)?	03:25
minhson	i need help	03:25
nikrud	Silencedbear what version of ubuntu are you running?	03:25
Silencedbear	7.10	03:25
Schmeiz	brb\	03:25
Silencedbear	had canonical supported next check box is community next is properierty next is software	03:26
nikrud	Silencedbear and you're saying that apt-get install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin errors?	03:26
brent113	nclife: look at this link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=469889	03:26
kiru	/msg ubotu etiquette	03:26
artfullylost	Problem.	03:26
brent113	nclife: let me know if that works	03:26
nikrud	Silencedbear if it is, you might have more serious problems	03:26
Silencedbear	sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin	03:26
Silencedbear	Reading package lists... Done	03:26
Silencedbear	Building dependency tree	03:26
Silencedbear	Reading state information... Done	03:26
Silencedbear	sun-java6-jre is already the newest version.	03:26
Silencedbear	sun-java6-plugin is already the newest version.	03:26
FloodBot3	Silencedbear: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.	03:26
login_	anyone here have the eee	03:26
Silencedbear	The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:	03:26
kiru	!English	03:27
ubotu	The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat	03:27
nikrud	Silencedbear ah, you said now its saying theres no verison , that's not quite the same ;)	03:27
artfullylost	Every time I use add/remove, it says "The list of applications is not available" no matter how many times I reload... Any solutions?	03:27
Silencedbear	yea i dont know what it is really. Honestly linux i know not much at all. thats why i here asking you :)	03:27
nikrud	Silencedbear ok, next is apt-cache search webplugin , put the output on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org not here	03:27
nikrud	Silencedbear you there? I gave a command that doesn't quite do what I want	03:28
Silencedbear	ok i posted under java	03:28
dek	how can I make OpenSSH server not start at startup (that it has to be started manually after booting)?	03:29
nikrud	Silencedbear also: dpkg -i 'webplugin' \| grep ^ii , put that on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org and then give me the url you get after submitting it	03:29
brent113	dek: is it listed in System->Preferences->Sessions? if so uncheck it	03:29
artfullylost	Anybody? Sounds like a simple solution, but I have no idea.	03:29
balamurugan	when i gave sudo nautilus /boot/grub, it says the foll error .(nautilus:8881): libgnomevfs-WARNING **: Unable to create ~/.gnome2 directory: No such file or directory	03:30
balamurugan	Could not create per-user gnome configuration directory `/home/root/.gnome2/': No such file or directory ... can sme1 help me solve this??	03:30
ka2	artfullylost: anybody what?	03:30
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brent113	artfullylost: I've had this too, I didn't find a solution though, I'll research though	03:30
Silencedbear	http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/61094/	03:30
Lokii-	in reference to what synaptics ?	03:30
Lokii-	brent113 / artfullylost	03:30
dek	brent113: I am using KDE, any idea to an equivalent for that?	03:31
artfullylost	lokii- : I mean, I'm just trying to install kalarm and xchat with the add/remove app.	03:31
brent113	lokii: if oyu look up he posted what it was	03:31
nikrud	Silencedbear ahrg. I cannot type tonight. or think. I'm sitting with this on my lap. No excuse, but sorry. dpkg -l 'webplugin' \| grep ^ii (should have been -l not -i)	03:31
Lokii-	dek you can use kde aplications on gnome and vice versa	03:31
noclue	I just installed a SATA DVD burner in my machine, and now grub won't load. any ideas?	03:31
Lokii-	artfullylost	03:32
brent113	artfullylost: from within add/remove click preferences. is the CD-ROM checked?	03:32
artfullylost	noclue : Check the booting order in the bios?	03:32
dek	Lokii-: i know, but I dont want to install them knowing there is surely another way	03:32
Lokii-	i don't have an alarm clock so i use my comp to wake me up too	03:32
noclue	artfullylost: yes, it's set to cdrom then HDD. i even disabled to CDROM, and it still doesn't work	03:32
Lokii-	i use Alarm Clock 0.7	03:32
artfullylost	Yes, brent113. If I decheck it, will it work?	03:32
brent113	artfullylost: yes, uncheck then reload.	03:33
ka2	Lokii-: different	03:33
artfullylost	lokii- : Does it wake you up with music?	03:33
Lokii-	yeah	03:33
nclife	brent113, yes thx, I will try that	03:33
Lokii-	very customizable	03:33
artfullylost	Thanks, I'll look into it Lokii-.	03:33
artfullylost	And thanks much, brent113.	03:33
brent113	my pleasure	03:33
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Lokii-	i can throw the package onto my webhost if you wanna wget it	03:33
artfullylost	Lokii-: I'll let you know, thanks. :)	03:34
kindofabuzz_	jeeez Debian is 21 cd's for install?	03:34
artfullylost	Or like 2 dvds.	03:34
boston_2	I have an odd issue that I'm trying to figure out. I've been using Ubuntu/Xubuntu 7.10, and recently I have gotten a 'Bus error' with a large amount of I/O errors on bootup. I was wondering if it's a possible HDD (though it tested good) or mobo failure, or has an update broken my install?	03:34
brent113	artfullylost: http://getdeb.net/app/Alarm+Clock	03:34
brent113	artfullylost: that's version 0.91	03:34
artfullylost	It's still not working, brent113.	03:35
Lokii-	http://software.filefactory.com/Linux/Alarm_Clock_0-7.html	03:35
Lokii-	works	03:35
artfullylost	I'm guessing I also need to check the internet boxes, then?	03:35
brent113	yes. lol	03:35
Lokii-	heh	03:36
artfullylost	Yeah. Stupid of me.	03:36
artfullylost	I knew it would be an easy fix, just didn't know what the easy fix would be. :P	03:36
brent113	artfullylost: you should be using synaptic though, it's much more powerful.. what were you installing again?	03:36
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Lokii-	dun forget to brent be a real man and leave the gui for the children	03:36
Lokii-	go terminal homie	03:36
Lokii-	:)	03:36
brent113	artfullylost: sudo apt-get install kalam xchat will work	03:37
nclife	brent113, would you know how to rehabilitate an internet connection in ubuntu?	03:37
ka2	Lokii-: thats an insult to the children ;) lol	03:37
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brent113	personally, I only use the terminal, much faster	03:37
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Lokii-	man i feel claustrophobic working in the gui	03:37
Lokii-	cause you have no movement room	03:38
Lokii-	your stuck inside 4 walls	03:38
brent113	they have pills for that you know	03:38
Lokii-	yeah its called a 50" plasma monitor	03:38
Lokii-	waiting	03:38
captaingeek	help!	03:38
brent113	ok.........	03:38
kindofabuzz_	when you format a partition, does the actual file system that you formatted to use up disk space?	03:38
captaingeek	my hard drive is weird!!!	03:38
Lokii-	kindofabuzz_, no	03:38
brent113	kindofabuzz: technically yes	03:38
brent113	lokii: ext3 reserves a root portion that is changable	03:39
kindofabuzz_	well i just formated a partition and it says 320MiB in use	03:39
Lokii-	well brent it doesn't use up the whole disk unless he's doing a dmcrypt withj image shred	03:39
captaingeek	someone?	03:39
segfault	hi, how can i remove the Ubuntu logo, from gnome panel?, i want to have the old-school gnome foot (lol), in hardy beta	03:39
captaingeek	my hdd is bing stupid	03:39
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captaingeek	*being	03:39
captaingeek	or ubuntu thinks so	03:39
brent113	kindofauzz: that's the ext3 root reserve, it can be changed if you want, just leave it if you can though	03:39
Lokii-	pull it out throw it at the wall and get a new one	03:39
Lokii-	problem fixed	03:39
foibles	hello there	03:39
brent113	captaingeek: tell me something usefull and I'll help	03:40
foibles	can someone help me mount this one partition?	03:40
ridge-meister	brent113: i did as that doc said (about getting printing to work in OO). the open office print administration tool successfully prints a test page, but OO Calc does not print a page. the printer just says "receiving data", then nothing.	03:40
foibles	http://pastebin.com/m18dab21c	03:40
kindofabuzz_	brent113: oh does that have to do with if you ever wnat to go to ext2?	03:40
captaingeek	it says / is 100% in use, but also contradicts itself in various ways	03:40
foibles	is my fstab	03:40
foibles	i can do it manually, but it never does it when i boot up	03:40
foibles	its getting somewhat annoying	03:40
foibles	to load everytime i log on	03:40
artfullylost	captaingeek : Technically, your hard disk should never be full. Even partitions shouldn't ever be completely full.	03:40
foibles	what commands would set it up to load auto just like everything else?	03:40
prince_jammys	foibles: it should automount if the fstab entry is correct	03:41
foibles	http://pastebin.com/m18dab21c	03:41
artfullylost	So it sounds like something in the software, not hardware. Then again, it could be the hardware. :-\	03:41
brent113	ridge-miester: hmm, I'm sorry then, I'm not sure what to do. I'd try searching the forums to see if anyone else has had that problem	03:41
foibles	thats my fstab	03:41
brent113	kindofabuzz: not really, it's just something the designers put in to increase performance overall	03:41
Lokii-	if its a drive that gets recognized after the kernal runs fstab	03:41
prince_jammys	foibles: type: blkid and see if the UUID is correct	03:41
Lokii-	then just do mount -a	03:41
Lokii-	and it'll mount all unmounted devices	03:41
foibles	prince_jammys, it is	03:41
Lokii-	eg usb drives	03:41
Lokii-	ect	03:41
RyanPrior	I've been having issues with my USB devices and somebody suggested that I boot with additional cheat codes "pci=routeirq" and "irqpoll". It seems to work, but it also seems to have side-effects. Anybody know precisely what those cheat codes do?	03:41
prince_jammys	foibles: you're talking about the ntfs one, right?	03:42
foibles	prince_jammys, /dev/hda1	03:42
foibles	ext3	03:42
Lgndryhr	i am still unable to get my 5g black 30 GB iPod to mount....any help would be much appreciated	03:43
Lgndryhr	i cannot get gtkpod either to mount it	03:43
brent113	lgndrhr: http://www.ubuntux.org/how-to-use-an-ipod-with-ubuntu	03:43
captaingeek	can anyone help?	03:43
captaingeek	someone?	03:43
brent113	!ask	03:43
ubotu	Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)	03:43
boston_2	I can't even get into my Ubuntu machine. I either get a "Bus error', hanging on boot, or hanging after login. (I can post the bus error, I retyped it from a pic I took with my digicam.)	03:44
captaingeek	freaking ubotu...	03:44
brent113	then ask the question	03:44
captaingeek	i did!	03:44
brent113	i must've missed it	03:44
captaingeek	why is my hard drive stupid? "disk usage analyzer" says / is 100% full	03:45
brent113	well, delete some files then	03:45
captaingeek	but the properties of "Filesystem" says 7.9gb of 53gb is used... ???	03:45
captaingeek	and i can't download openoffice	03:45
Adanedhel728	i had a weird problem with my harddrive, something sort of similar to that	03:45
Adanedhel728	it said my harddrive was full, but it wasn't even close	03:45
foibles	prince_jammys, what do you think?	03:46
captaingeek	then what did you do?	03:46
Adanedhel728	it basically said that my ubuntu files were taking up about 12 gig	03:46
brent113	captaingeek: what stats does disk usage analyzer say when you run it on "Filesystem"	03:46
captaingeek	hold on	03:46
Adanedhel728	well, i'm not exactly sure, but i discovered that compiz-fusion's 3d windows were conflicting with my opengl screensaver	03:46
brent113	captaingeek: it will take a while to scan, I'll be patient	03:46
Adanedhel728	since 3d windows are kind of screwy anyway, that didn't surprise me	03:47
Adanedhel728	i turned off compiz-fusion temporarily to change my screensaver, changed it to blank screen, and suddenly ubuntu was taking up 6 gig again	03:47
Adanedhel728	or something like that	03:47
fk7_se	what is the port that VNC 4 uses	03:47
Adanedhel728	i have no idea if that will apply, so sorry if it doesn't	03:47
xb3rt	How do I uninstall something on ubuntu gutsy?	03:47
Lgndryhr	brent113: that site was helpful except where do i find what node of /dev it is using	03:48
Lokii-	apt-get remove	03:48
prince_jammys	foibles: i must be missing something because i don't see anything wrong with the line	03:48
foibles	prince_jammys, same thoughts here	03:48
prince_jammys	foibles: you have to mount it manually every time, right?	03:48
Lokii-	or rm -Rfh *	03:48
Lokii-	:P	03:48
fk7_se	xb3rt: what are you trying to install	03:48
Lokii-	if you get fed up	03:48
xb3rt	Lokii-: so it would be something like 'sudo apt-get remove exampleprogram'	03:48
xb3rt	fk7_se: uninstall	03:48
xb3rt	fk7_se: anything, just wondering what the command was	03:49
dek	how can I edit the list of daemons that run at startup?	03:49
gralco	how do i completely remove wine	03:49
Geoffrey2	hey folks, some times when I boot up, the ubuntu login screen is outside the range of my monitor, but once I type my user name and password, the desktop displays fine	03:49
captaingeek	brent113: i'm dialogging you as not to pollute the chat with percentages. :)	03:49
TheViLliN	i have an dumb silly question. I'm attempting to under stand the man file but i must be really tired. Simply the "cp" command copy duh. All I want to do is copy a directory's contents to another folder (using a wild-card). I keep getting the first file erroring saying "this is not a directory. I think I need to use the -t but its not computing with me.	03:49
foibles	prince_jammys, yeah	03:50
sstoveld	http://technology.desktopnexus.com/wallpaper/8149/	03:50
brent113	lgndryhr: i'm not sure, mine aways mounts automaticcaly :P, sorry!	03:50
prince_jammys	Lokii-: you think that someone who doesn't know how to uninstall something knows what rm * will do?	03:50
Lgndryhr	brent113: ah. k thanks anyways	03:50
captaingeek	brent113: i'm dialogging you!!!	03:50
brent113	captaingeek: i've been talking to you privately for over 5 minutes	03:50
xb3rt	prince_jammys: sure do	03:50
Lgndryhr	anyone else out there now how to get a 5g iPod 30 GB to mount	03:50
captaingeek	??	03:50
captaingeek	?	03:50
brent113	over 10 muinutes actually	03:51
prince_jammys	xb3rt: did he ask you if you knew?	03:51
captaingeek	???	03:51
brent113	(08:48:48 PM) brent113: disk analyzer sums all the sizes of all files and divides it percentage-wise among all subfolders. so / will always have 100% of the files becuase there is nothign higher. the subfolders of / will then sum to 100% - (08:49:07 PM) brent113: run df -H and paste the output here	03:51
captaingeek	ok	03:51
brent113	except paste it privately or you'll get spam blocked	03:51
xb3rt	prince_jammys: no he didn't	03:52
prince_jammys	you get my point	03:52
captaingeek	it seems to just be really stupid... :)	03:52
kindofabuzz_	what's the command to remount everything without rebooting?	03:53
captaingeek	i'll see if anything randomly changed.	03:53
brent113	captaingeek: that's normal. notice you're only using 11% of your drive	03:53
TheViLliN	duh . think i got it	03:53
sstoveld	woah...	03:54
brent113	omfg	03:54
sstoveld	what happened?	03:54
Zoris	what just happened?	03:54
boston_2	netsplit?	03:54
Nick\|Dead	yep	03:54
captaingeek	did everyone die?	03:54
captaingeek	:)	03:54
boston_2	not yet	03:54
captaingeek	lol	03:54
Nick\|Dead	Any time you see the *.freenode.net irc.freenode.net quit message without quotes it is a netsplit	03:55
brent113	captaingeek, stick with me in private, you're killing me by switching back and forth	03:55
vbabiy-laptop	Hey guys I have a had a error in my grub menu.lst file	03:55
kindofabuzz_	i didn't see anything	03:55
mattholimeau	no java chatroom? that's insane!	03:55
vbabiy-laptop	and I have fixed it but everything I get a new kernel the error comes back	03:55
sstoveld	welcome back everyone	03:55
sstoveld	lol	03:55
captaingeek	negative netsplit...	03:55
captaingeek	:)	03:55
boston_2	though I think my poor ubuntu box did. I'm getting various errors, with various lengths of bootup... :(	03:56
vbabiy-laptop	Hey guys I have a had a error in my grub menu.lst file, and I have fixed it but everything I get a new kernel the error comes back	03:56
Lokii-	cp -RF folder/ /new/path/to/folder/	03:56
Lokii-	-Rf ***	03:56
Lokii-	-R = recursive -f = folder -h = hidden	03:56
ka2	TheViLliN: no question is a dumb one	03:56
chiefwigms	hey guys - question.. i installed compiz and now am gettin some problems - everytime I load a program, the menu bar is underneath the "applications places systems" panel	03:56
ka2	cp * -t <folder>	03:56
ka2	in my testing	03:56
ka2	its scary quiet in ubuntu irc channels today	03:56
chiefwigms	and I can't move the windows down	03:56
brent113	captaingeek: can you see at all anything I send to you privately? if not I'll just say it all here	03:57
segfault	hi, how can i remove the Ubuntu logo, from gnome panel?, i want to have the old-school gnome foot (lol), in hardy beta	03:57
kindofabuzz_	chiefwigms: do a metacity --replace	03:57
Lokii-	!ot \| chiefwigms	03:57
ubotu	chiefwigms: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!	03:57
TheViLliN	ka2: thx, i just really was getting ticked that i could not get it hehe	03:57
kindofabuzz_	Lokii-: how is that ot?	03:57
brent113	lokii: can you do me a favor?	03:57
Lokii-	sup	03:57
brent113	lokii: pm me, i wanna see if my client is working properly	03:58
chiefwigms	is there anyway to make it back to the default ubunto had? its slowing down all my window movements	03:58
crackajak	this is like aol back in the day... only no charge	03:58
kindofabuzz_	irc was around before aol chatrooms	03:58
Lokii-	<kindofabuzz_> chiefwigms: do a metacity --replace&	03:58
memstat	irc is the original chat room(s)	03:58
brent113	lokii: did you get my responses?	03:58
chiefwigms	i remember "AOHell"	03:58
chiefwigms	hehe	03:58
Lokii-	no	03:58
poseidon	How do I install kiba-dock	03:59
brent113	damn, ok, my client sucks then	03:59
Lokii-	heh	03:59
brent113	anyone have a good irc client?	03:59
Nick\|Dead	chatzilla	03:59
Lokii-	are you identified ?	03:59
crackajak	yeah your right, but i ddint know about it then. otherise i woulda saved hundreds	03:59
kindofabuzz_	chatzilla rocks	03:59
memstat	xchat is decent other than that chatzilla	03:59
brent113	i'm using pidgin right now	03:59
Lokii-	LoL @ chatzilla	03:59
segfault	hi, how can i remove the Ubuntu logo, from gnome panel?, i want to have the old-school gnome foot (lol), in hardy beta	03:59
crackajak	im usin x chat	03:59
Lokii-	xchat is the best for *nix	03:59
Zoris	I'm using gnome xchat	03:59
kindofabuzz_	xchat looks like crap i think	03:59
crackajak	what is *nix lokii?	03:59
brent113	ok, xchat or chatzilla	03:59
brent113	unix or linux	04:00
memstat	lol what is *nix	04:00
Lokii-	if you have mirc versions 5.90 they work awesome in wine	04:00
crackajak	i have mac	04:00
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poseidon	Xcaht is the only one I like for linux	04:00
Lokii-	*nix is both foo	04:00
Lokii-	u got a mac thats bloody wack	04:00
poseidon	HydraIRC is neat if your running windows	04:00
memstat	bah on the bastard os	04:00
crackajak	memstat- im new to the irc channels. I figured i would learn to write some software and take over the world, instead of reading espn everyday	04:01
chiefwigms	bah... metacity took away the defaults ubuntu came with	04:01
EcoBlue	macs lawl	04:01
Frederick	folks have anyone here ever used hibernate relational persistence for java in ubuntu? isnt there a package for it?	04:01
Lgndryhr	brent113: thanks for the link....i figured it out and got it working	04:01
Lokii-	i'd use windows before a mac	04:01
* Lokii- shudders		04:01
crackajak	i like the mac better than the pc	04:01
brent113	lgndryhr: awesome then	04:01
crackajak	lokii have you ever had a mac?	04:01
EcoBlue	I found mac harder to use that windows	04:01
Lokii-	well thats why7 your the crackajak	04:01
EcoBlue	I've played with one at my school	04:02
EcoBlue	Completely counterintuitive	04:02
Lokii-	crackajak	04:02
Lokii-	i have done some digging	04:02
Lokii-	there bloody useless	04:02
Lokii-	unless you wanna run imovie	04:02
EcoBlue	Might be because I have a clue what a computer is supposed to do, unlike 90% apple's market	04:02
crackajak	your from australia	04:02
tritium	!enter \| Lokii-	04:02
ubotu	Lokii-: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!	04:02
brent_	ok, now on xchat, how do i register	04:02
tritium	Also, look into proper usage of you're (not your) and they're (not there)	04:02
xb3rt	Does anyone know of some good network diagraming software for linux?	04:02
Lokii-	i'm from canada thank you very much i take offence to that btw	04:02
poseidon	How do I install kiba-dock?, where can I find out how to install it?	04:03
Starnestommy	brent_: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup	04:03
brent113	thanks	04:03
memstat	poseidon : have you tried google?	04:03
poseidon	yes	04:03
crackajak	i have lots of australian friends and they use bloody a lot.	04:03
EcoBlue	haha canada	04:03
crackajak	also some from toronto	04:03
Lokii-	well normally i would just blantantly curse	04:03
crackajak	lokii u from toronto	04:03
EcoBlue	memstat: I used goggle to search, would up fun	04:04
Lokii-	but i'm trying to keep it cleanb	04:04
Lokii-	bc	04:04
memstat	EcoBlue> memstat: I used goggle to search, would up fu......?	04:04
captaingeek	help!	04:04
crackajak	i use to be on a pc all the time, wonder what the fuss about mac	04:04
captaingeek	i can't download anything because my computer (gutsy) says that there's no room left...	04:04
captaingeek	:(	04:05
tritium	crackajak: please stay on topic	04:05
EcoBlue	AFK	04:05
crackajak	tritium whats topic?	04:05
captaingeek	!afk	04:05
ubotu	You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair to new users. (Please set your preferred nick in your client's settings instead.) The same goes for using noisy away messages; use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently. See also «/msg ubotu Guidelines»	04:05
tritium	crackajak: ubuntu support, obviously. see /topic	04:05
captaingeek	!topic	04:05
ubotu	Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic	04:05
Lunks	Topic in #ubuntu is Topic in #ubuntu is !topic	04:05
Lunks	Topic in #ubuntu is !topic	04:05
Piffer	anyone has problems with xmms in gutsy where it does not play mp3?	04:05
Jaffarkelshac	anyone know how to update clamav	04:05
captaingeek	will someone plz help?	04:06
Jaffarkelshac	Piffer use amarok instead much better for me anyway	04:06
Piffer	thanks, i will give that a short	04:06
tritium	Lunks: ?	04:06
FlyingSquirrel32	On a standard home ubuntu machine, what is involved in sending mail with sendmail?	04:06
captaingeek	someone?	04:06
Starnestommy	captaingeek: run df -h to see if there's any free space	04:06
Lunks	tritium: silly script. :P	04:07
FlyingSquirrel32	just apt-get install and sendmail -t, or are there more things involved?	04:07
crackajak	/topic	04:07
tritium	Lunks: okay.	04:07
Lunks	tritium: Indeed it should be disabled for #ubuntu. I'll report it. Sorry. =P	04:07
Jaffarkelshac	Piffer it wont play mp3 straight away but use sudo aptitude install libxine-extracodecs and restart the program	04:07
tritium	Lunks: no worries	04:07
captaingeek	!captain underpants	04:07
Jaffarkelshac	does anyone know how to update clamav	04:08
ericboehs	so that from another machine I can ping Joey and have it resolve the ip	04:08
ericboehs	err	04:08
tritium	captaingeek: please...	04:08
ericboehs	How do I get my hostname to register to the dhcp server?	04:08
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ericboehs	so that from another machine I can ping Joey and have it resolve the ip	04:08
FlyingSquirrel32	ericboehs: You mean DNS.	04:09
Lokii-	you mean another machine on your local network correct ?	04:09
ericboehs	FlyingSquirrel32: Yeah	04:09
atcla_ubuntu	how to save and exit ???	04:09
FlyingSquirrel32	do you have access to a DNS server? or just the hosts	04:09
atcla_ubuntu	it says save and exit	04:10
ericboehs	FlyingSquirrel32: I have access to my DNS server	04:10
atcla_ubuntu	how do i do that :D	04:10
crackajak	last question people. How do i find a room	04:10
tritium	atcla_ubuntu: you need to give us more information...	04:10
crackajak	on psychology	04:10
* Lokii- thinks he prolly has the best host name a home cable user could possibly get		04:10
tritium	crackajak: please stay on topic	04:10
Starnestommy	crackajak: try /msg chanserv list psychology	04:10
atcla_ubuntu	tritium, ok im configing corky	04:10
atcla_ubuntu	vi /home/user/.conkryc	04:10
tseug	i used 'make' to install Sage (a math program) on Ubuntu. now what's the command to open Sage?	04:11
atcla_ubuntu	i pasted script	04:11
FlyingSquirrel32	ericboehs: I'm googleing...	04:11
atcla_ubuntu	now i need to save and exit	04:11
Flannel	acalbaza: [esc][esc]:wq	04:11
ddalton	Hi, I'm blind and can't follow here. Could someone please join ##ddalton so that I can ask you 3 or 4 questions about dual bootinmg windows xp and ubuntu 7.04?	04:11
ddalton	THANKS	04:11
Flannel	atcla_ubuntu: [esc][esc]:wq	04:11
brent113	so how do I get xchat to identify me automatically?	04:11
prince_jammys	atcla_ubuntu: :wq will save and exit	04:11
squid_	#jakarta	04:11
atcla_ubuntu	1 answer please :D or all answer the same :D	04:11
atcla_ubuntu	so 2x click esc ?	04:11
Lokii-	use nano !! vim sucks	04:12
squid_	join #jakarta	04:12
squid_	hahaha	04:12
ericboehs	Nano for newbs - Vim for pros	04:12
atcla_ubuntu	!kb squid_ ads	04:12
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about kb squid_ ads - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	04:12
FlyingSquirrel32	ericboehs: Are you starting a new DNS server from scratch or is it already up and running?	04:12
leaveboy_	hello	04:12
leaveboy_	long time no seee	04:12
tritium	Lokii-: let people choose for themselves, please	04:12
captaingeek	!ubotu	04:12
ubotu	I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots	04:12
captaingeek	!fart	04:13
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about fart - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	04:13
FlyingSquirrel32	ericboehs: I mean do you already have the zones set up?	04:13
captaingeek	lol	04:13
ericboehs	FlyingSquirrel32: Well it's up and running, but I can restart it. Unfortunatley, it's a weird OS (Mikrotik routeros) so the dns settings are different	04:13
captaingeek	!intelligence	04:13
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about intelligence - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	04:13
captaingeek	rofl	04:13
FlyingSquirrel32	What DNS server are you running BIND?	04:13
captaingeek	don't know anything about intelligence	04:13
FlyingSquirrel32	ericboehs:^	04:13
ericboehs	FlyingSquirrel32: I think I figured it out	04:14
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node357	!botsnack	04:14
ubotu	Yum! Err, I mean, APT!	04:14
FlyingSquirrel32	ericboehs: Glad to help ;)	04:14
node357	sweet :)	04:14
brent113	!cp	04:15
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about cp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	04:15
brent113	lies!	04:15
ericboehs	Some how, it looks like I have a IPv6 ip in my dns settings (on the client machine)	04:15
Zero_Chaos	Can someone please tell me if ath5k or madwifi-ng is included in ubuntu's latest release?	04:15
crackajak	wtf why is it banning him	04:15
ericboehs	I think that might have something to do with it	04:15
Schmeiz	well finally	04:16
Schmeiz	i opened my monitor	04:16
squid_	does anyone know about games on windows that i can play on ubuntu 7.10???	04:16
crackajak	tritum who are you	04:16
Schmeiz	tried to clean off any contacts, made sure every button made contact	04:16
Schmeiz	....and it still doesn't work	04:16
node357	squid_, you can play the Halo Trial with WINE... maybe some other games, not sure	04:16
Flannel	squid_: check out winehq.org, it lists far too many to mention	04:16
node357	o	04:16
tritium	crackajak: I am me.	04:17
squid_	thanks a lot	04:17
j3kyll	whats the channel for other chat please?	04:17
lanoxx	whats the name of that handy tool to view diskpsace usage on ubuntu, can i install it on kubuntu?	04:17
FlyingSquirrel32	ericboehs: well, if that were a problem, wouldn't that affect resolving any name, not just the one you're after?	04:17
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Schmeiz	does anyone know if i can possibly adjust the screen location inside ubuntu? my monitor buttons no longer work and my screen is off to the left too far and is cut off	04:17
atcla_ubuntu	tritium, i dunno, it doesnt work :D	04:18
atcla_ubuntu	i paste script when i click 2x esc	04:18
atcla_ubuntu	it doesnt exit	04:18
Zero_Chaos	Can someone please tell me if ath5k or madwifi-ng is included in ubuntu's latest release?	04:18
FlyingSquirrel32	Can someone help me set up sendmail just to send mail?	04:18
j3kyll	what channel is other chat?	04:19
Starnestommy	j3kyll: #ubuntu-offtopic ?	04:19
ericboehs	FlyingSquirrel32: sudo apt-get install mailutils	04:19
j3kyll	Starnestommy : thanks	04:19
ericboehs	FlyingSquirrel32: Then:	04:19
ericboehs	FlyingSquirrel32: Then: echo testing \| mail -s Bla myemail@somewhere.com	04:19
adamP	Hey everyone, hopefully someone can help me with this - How do I change the login? I installed Xubuntu, but it still loads the kubuntu startup. Takes forever, too.	04:19
G-H-3	i jus upgraded to the hardy beta and now my sound doesnt work. so i did an lsmod and i didnt see the modules for my sound card. how do i add the needed module?	04:20
tritium	crackajak: what is it to you?	04:20
xb3rt	Does anyone know of any 'good' network diagraming programs for linux, I can't seem to find anything decent	04:20
ogre	anybody know who i can get in contact with in the ubuntu legal team?	04:20
lanoxx	xb3rt: nmap	04:21
squid_	i try to play football manager 2008 multiplayer with my friends, but it cannot connect to pc besides me(my friend) (my game stop running).....does anyone know why i cannot connect?	04:21
lanoxx	nmap -sP 192.168.1-255 e.g.	04:21
lanoxx	whats the name of that handy tool to view diskpsace usage on ubuntu (the one with GUI), can i install it on kubuntu?	04:21
boston_2	I'm having an issue. I keep getting either a 'Bus error', lockup on loading, lockup after login, 'The greeter application appears to be crashing. Attempting to use a different one.', or a random crash with stack dump. Sometimes I can get it to run for a bit, but then it either kicks me back to the login screen or just locks up. I can post a transcript of the bus error message if needed.	04:21
xb3rt	lanoxx: does that allow creating diagrams, or does it just simply map out the network im on	04:21
Dr_Link	I used ffmpeg to convert flv to mpeg, with the following command: ffmpeg -i video.flv -ab 56 -ar 22050 -b 500 -s 320x240 video.mpg <--- there is no audio in the .mpg file... when I set an audio bitrate. what's going on here?	04:22
jrib	lanoxx: baobab in the gnome-utils package	04:22
brent113	sweet, whatever happened to captain geek?	04:23
Lokii-	heh	04:23
Lokii-	ran outta geek	04:23
tritium	brent113: kicked for bot abuse, inappropriate behavior	04:23
Lokii-	i guess	04:23
Zero_Chaos	Can someone please tell me if ath5k or madwifi-ng is included in ubuntu's latest release?	04:23
Dr_Link	latest stable release, Zero?	04:24
Dr_Link	or beta?	04:24
Zero_Chaos	Dr_Link: both. I'm having a hard time supporting your users cause I don't know when the switch happens	04:24
brent113	tritium: oh, thanks	04:24
lanoxx	xb3rt: no just gives you console output of the pcs in a network	04:25
Dr_Link	doesn't look like it for 7.10, Zero_Chaos	04:25
xb3rt	lanoxx: im looking for something along the lines of smartdraw or visio, but for linux	04:25
Zero_Chaos	Dr_Link: and that is the latest stable? using madwifi-ng?	04:25
lanoxx	xb3rt: that makes it pretty easy to see who is up and resonds, you can scan every thing or just see if a host is up.	04:25
Dr_Link	I think	04:25
Zero_Chaos	Dr_Link: I appreciate it, thanks	04:25
Dr_Link	np.	04:25
lanoxx	xb3rt: sorry, in that case i dont know, you could install crossover office and get visio running, worked pretty well for me.	04:26
xb3rt	lanoxx: ive got a copy of smartoffice, but its locked up on my 'mybook' drive right now, which id also like to get working	04:27
xb3rt	I dont think its possible yet though	04:27
Odd-rationale	xb3rt: I think koffice has something similar. Let me check...	04:27
lanoxx	xb3rt: why is it locked up?	04:27
tseug	i used 'make' to install Sage (a math program) on Ubuntu. now what's the command to open Sage?	04:27
ericboehs	FlyingSquirrel32: Did that work?	04:28
* DOOM_NX good morning all! :)		04:28
xb3rt	lanoxx: its connected to my wireless router with an ethernet cable, which makes it wireless,...but beins that im on linux Its not able to pick it up	04:28
lanoxx	jrib: is that the on that diplays the circular diagramms	04:28
jrib	lanoxx: yes	04:28
xb3rt	lanoxx: it also needs special software i beleive, which right now is only windows compatible	04:28
Odd-rationale	xb3rt: Try kivio: http://www.koffice.org/kivio/	04:30
xb3rt	Odd-rationale: Ok, ill check it out	04:30
retlaw	xb3rt: you need to look for open source alternatives. There is alot out there. Many even better that the propriety ones.	04:30
Woxdee	I have an annoying file/directory residing on an NTFS partition that I can't delete (I have write permissions), nor rename. When trying either (from gui-menu or commandline) I get "No such file or directory". It's a directory named "Torrent downloaded from demonoid.com.txt". How do I delete it?	04:31
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xb3rt	retlaw: Odd-rationale: I've got 'Dia' ..which does basically what I'm looking for, just was wondering if their's one better	04:31
louish	Hi all. I'm running 7.10, and I can't find out how I can change which program is the default for pdf etc?	04:31
jrib	!defaultapp \| louish	04:32
ubotu	louish: To change the default application for a filetype in Nautilus, right-click on a file, select Properties -> Open With, and then change the setting. In Kubuntu, Konqueror -> Settings -> Configure and then hit "File Associations"	04:32
brandonc503	how i get those 3d gears up from terminal?	04:32
retlaw	gtg	04:32
tim	go to system prefrences default applications	04:32
jrib	brandonc503: glxgears?	04:32
brandonc503	yea	04:32
brandonc503	thanks	04:33
tim	I get 657fps in glGears this means I have no 3d acceleration right ??	04:33
brandonc503	and how do i update my nvidia drivers?	04:33
Svenstaro	tim, yes	04:33
louish	jrib ubotu great thanks much.	04:33
FlyingSquirrel32	What do I have to do to be able to setup my own SMTP server? besides just apt-get install sendmail	04:34
tim	They have not made a 3d driver for my VIDEO card for LINUX yet !!!!!!!!	04:34
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Svenstaro	FlyingSquirrel32, that is quite hard, if you want a more advanced system that is	04:34
tim	maybe in a year or so they will release 3d accelerated video DRIVER for my VID card !!	04:34
FlyingSquirrel32	I want simple, but I want to be able to send mail to outside of my domain.	04:35
Svenstaro	tim, what card do you own?	04:35
FlyingSquirrel32	Svenstaro^	04:35
vbabiy-laptop	Hey any one got any idea on how I can fix this fsck error http://pastebin.com/m50231b47	04:36
FlyingSquirrel32	Svenstaro: I have drupal on my server, and I want it to be able to send out notices, but I don't think my ISP will provide a SMTP server	04:36
jjt009	hello	04:36
Svenstaro	FlyingSquirrel32, sendmail should do that :) but its very complicated, you should have a look at simpler applications	04:36
jjt009	anyone here?	04:36
tim	Svenstaro, I got AGp radeon 2600xt	04:37
Svenstaro	FlyingSquirrel32, PHP has a very easy and accessible SMTP function :<	04:37
tim	Svenstaro, Do u know that card?	04:37
Piffer	ah found the issue with xmms, as amarok has the same issue,,, playing music from an smb share seems to not work. once i have the mp3 locally it works fine.	04:37
Piffer	can i mount the smb share as a local folder to trick xmms or amarok?	04:37
Frederick	folks how do I install mysql JDBC driver?	04:37
Svenstaro	tim, no I officially hate ATI but I'm really do that theres a driver for yours	04:37
hellmitre	hey kids	04:38
Svenstaro	Piffer, just mount your stuff to /media	04:38
FlyingSquirrel32	Svenstaro: What's it called?	04:38
tim	Svenstaro, U mean there is not driver for mine ....	04:38
hellmitre	would this be the wrong place to ask about what would be a good music client that's a frontend to MPD, with a persistent music library?	04:38
ChaosParser	vbabiy-laptop: If one of those is the drive that your OS is on, you need to boot to a livecd and then e2fsck -b 8193 <device>	04:38
Piffer	i will test that	04:38
Svenstaro	tim, there are two drivers you can try, first ones calleD ATI second ones called fglrx	04:38
tim	Svenstaro, In some time they will release completly open source driver from the grounds up http://www.x.org/wiki/radeonhd	04:39
vbabiy-laptop	ChaosParser: /dev/sdc is my os drive	04:39
Svenstaro	FlyingSquirrel32, just use the php function :) read up on it on www.php.net	04:39
vbabiy-laptop	so I would have to do that off the live cd	04:39
Svenstaro	tim, I know	04:39
Svenstaro	tim, but I really think theres a driver for you	04:39
tim	Svenstaro, no there is non http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=615889	04:40
Svenstaro	that was half a year ago tim	04:40
tim	check page 2	04:40
murlidhar	what is the command to install java along with its mozilla plugin????	04:40
Kl4m	hellmitre: would xmms fit the criterion	04:40
tim	install ubuntu restricted	04:40
FlyingSquirrel32	Svenstaro: It's mail(), but you still have to give it a SMTP server. That's what I'm missing	04:41
Svenstaro	tim Ati has released a new driver that works with 2600 pro agp. ati-driver-installer-8-3-x86.x86_64.run.	04:41
tim	murlidhar, u need to install ubuntu restricted	04:41
murlidhar	thanks tim	04:41
Kl4m	murlidhar: there is a sun-java6-plugin package	04:41
tim	Svenstaro, I have tried it .... it does not work for me though	04:41
Kl4m	murlidhar: or java5, depending on your version	04:41
Svenstaro	tim, I suggest you to use envy in that case, but beware because:	04:41
Svenstaro	!envy	04:41
ubotu	envy is an unsupported tool to install newer versions of binary video drivers than provided by the official repositories. Use at your own risk, and remember that the latest version is not necessarily the "best". See « /msg ubotu binarydriver »	04:41
hellmitre	xmms would	04:41
tritium	murlidhar: tim means the ubuntu-restricted-extras package. That has much more than just java, though.	04:41
hellmitre	I didn't know it uses MPD	04:41
tim	Svenstaro, I have tried it .. it does not work for me	04:41
hellmitre	isn't audacious a fork of that?	04:42
Svenstaro	FlyingSquirrel32, you dont. PHP has one built in. Im 100%	04:42
Svenstaro	tim not envy even?	04:42
hellmitre	oh, those last two lines from me are for Kl4m	04:42
tim	Svenstaro, not even envy	04:42
tim	Svenstaro, nothing works....	04:42
Kl4m	hellmitre: I don't really, I just suppose xmms must have a mdp plugin, of all the players	04:42
hellmitre	thanks kl4m	04:42
jose3M	hello	04:43
Svenstaro	tim, that sucks :(	04:43
FlyingSquirrel32	Svenstaro: you have to specify a SMTP server in php.ini. Drupal is built on PHP.	04:43
tim	will kdr4 become super stable in July 2008 over sudden ???!	04:43
tim	kde4*	04:44
lanoxx	about the nvidia drivers, has anyone got the fx5500 running?	04:44
tim	yes ?	04:44
jose3M	with 7.10 after 2 days without problems i got "usb 1-1: device descriptor read/64, error -110" while booting... anybody knows whats happend?	04:44
murlidhar	Thanks i guess ubuntu-restricted-extras package will help me a lot	04:44
tim	lanoxx, try envy	04:44
tritium	!envy \| tim, lanoxx	04:44
ubotu	tim, lanoxx: envy is an unsupported tool to install newer versions of binary video drivers than provided by the official repositories. Use at your own risk, and remember that the latest version is not necessarily the "best". See « /msg ubotu binarydriver »	04:44
lanoxx	tim:envy?	04:44
lanoxx	!binarydriver	04:45
ubotu	For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto	04:45
Svenstaro	this channel totally hates envy :(	04:45
lanoxx	haha	04:45
tritium	Svenstaro: yes, with very good reason	04:45
lanoxx	so does that mean the current driver from the reps does not support the fx5500?	04:45
murlidhar	can Myth TV be also used as internet TV ???	04:46
Svenstaro	murlidhar, DVB-T you mean?	04:46
tim	lanoxx, try googling :geforce fx5500 ubuntu	04:46
tritium	lanoxx: it should.	04:46
tritium	!nvidia \| lanoxx	04:46
ubotu	lanoxx: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto	04:46
Svenstaro	lanoxx that card does work 100% :)	04:46
murlidhar	Svenstaro, no just internet streaming channels	04:46
xb3rt	How does a usb sticks file system work when storing files from linux and windows on it?	04:46
Svenstaro	murlidhar, with some clever scripting it can	04:46
artfullylost	Ok, I accidently changed my home directory, so what would be the command in recovery mode to re-change it?	04:47
murlidhar	Svenstaro, i don't have a cable connection	04:47
xb3rt	Lol, do i have to set up two partitions on it	04:47
murlidhar	Svenstaro, so do u any tv streaming software TV	04:47
Svenstaro	xb3rt usb sticks usually use fat16 or fat32 which both linux and windows can access, afaik it does not know what permissions are	04:47
Svenstaro	murlidhar, yes, I use firefox for that :)	04:47
brandonc503	is there a way to see what your video card is in ubuntu like dxdiag in windows?	04:48
cyntek	Hello everyone.	04:48
tim	How do i first rip audio CDs into wave files then using latest lame encode them using my own avnaced settings i choose into mp3 ??	04:48
tim	do u know?	04:48
nickrud	Brandon__ lspci \| grep -i vga	04:48
brandonc503	thanks	04:48
Bruno_	Hi, could anyone help me with downloading the .svg ubuntu logo... i cant seem to do it...	04:49
artfullylost	Is there a way to re-change my home directory from recovery, or from a live cd, so that it will load into my user account?	04:49
cyntek	I downloaded a file and it's in ".chm" How can I view this file or open it ?	04:49
cyntek	It's an e-book!	04:49
tim	do u know?	04:50
gagamel	Install chm viewer for .chm file.	04:50
cyntek	Is that in the add/remove manager?	04:50
Woxdee	cyntek: You can use either of xchm (for X in general), gnochm (for gnome, of course), or kchmviewer (for, you know, the other desktop system).	04:50
lanoxx	Svenstaro: any tipps on how i get it running, i installed the drivers from the reps, and they broke my x, did a reboot and Xorg -configure.....	04:50
tim	wtf it !!! says that Fedora 9 beta released featuring firefox 3.0 beta 5	04:50
tim	here is their release notes saying that Fedora 9 beta includes NOW firefox 3.0 beta 5 https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2008-March/msg00011.html	04:51
Starnestommy	tim: this channel isn't #fedora	04:51
tim	they are lying we must stop them !!!	04:51
Svenstaro	lanoxx, you shouldnt install open source drivers from the reps, get the driver package from www.nvidia.com <quite> or use envy </envy>	04:51
tim	firefox beta 5 is not released yet !	04:51
artfullylost	Anyone?	04:51
Svenstaro	artfullylost, what do you want to do?	04:52
hacim	what is the name of the kernel package in ubuntu?	04:52
hacim	win 68	04:52
artfullylost	I want to change my home directory through the live cd or recovery mode so that my account works on my HD.	04:52
Svenstaro	hacim, apt-cache linux-image	04:52
hacim	Svenstaro: thanks	04:53
Svenstaro	arr wait,	04:53
Svenstaro	apt-cache search linux-image	04:53
Svenstaro	hacim^	04:53
artfullylost	He left.	04:53
Svenstaro	:/	04:53
lanoxx	ok, im gonna do that	04:54
Starnestommy	artfullylost: usermod -d /home/homedir username	04:54
Svenstaro	artfullylost, I still dont get it, you screwed up your home directory and wanna recover it using livecd?	04:54
artfullylost	So, because my home directory is set to... well, a directory that doesn't exist.... it won't load. And I can't fix it, because it won't load.	04:54
cyntek	This has become a nice transistion from windows to ubuntu linux. Now, i just have to learn it.	04:54
Odd-rationale	I registered an account at http://www.dyndns.com/ but I'm not sure i know what to do with it. I'm reading about ddclient, ipcheck, and inadyn. Which do is use and can someone help walk me through setting it up? Thanks!	04:54
murlidhar	Svenstaro, can miro player only stream video instead of downloading the video?	04:54
artfullylost	Starnestommy: That will work?	04:54
Svenstaro	artfullylost, I got you, okay hang on a sec	04:54
artfullylost	Starnestommy: Do I do that into terminal off of the live cd, recovery mode....?	04:55
Starnestommy	artfullylost: recovery mode	04:55
Svenstaro	artfullylost, from the livecd, chroot into your actual installation and type "sudo usermod --home /new/gome YOURUSER"	04:55
artfullylost	Ok, preciate it.	04:55
Svenstaro	murlidhar, dont know bout that	04:56
Svenstaro	why do people always leave before im able to help them!	04:56
Svenstaro	!helpercookie	04:56
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about helpercookie - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	04:56
Uww_D	haii	04:56
Lapinux	anyone here use gsambad, and if so how is it?	04:57
brent113	lapinux: no, but have you considered mounting it as cifs?	04:57
Lapinux	brent113: i'm not sure what it is.... i can see all my other network machines from this one but the windows machines cant see my shares	04:59
tarelerulz	any of you used q dvd author ? or any other dvd authoring programs ? That can convert .avi with xvid and mp3 audio ?	04:59
lanoxx	any idea on why in firefox download window the links to open a file dont work?	04:59
lanoxx	or open location of this file	04:59
Lapinux	brent113: would it be suitable for this situation?	04:59
brent113	lapinux: oh I see what you're doing	05:00
brent113	yes I have used gsambad and I found it terrible actually	05:00
Lapinux	oh....	05:00
brent113	lapinux: I prefer the webmin module for that	05:00
brent113	lapinux: it's pretty much perfect and gives you a ton of options	05:00
Lapinux	i was just curious, tonight is the first time i've seen any fronteneds for it	05:00
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Lapinux	brent113: i think it was swat? that i used before	05:01
tarelerulz	Lapinux. frontend for what ?	05:01
brent113	lapinux: i tried to use swat, too hard for me to learn, so i just went back to webmin	05:01
Lapinux	brent113: a while back anyway, the last few times i just used the terminal to set it up, i think i remember how i did it :)	05:02
brent113	lapinux: plus you can configure it from anywhere!	05:02
Lapinux	tarelerulz: configuring samba	05:02
Lapinux	brent113: i will have to look at webmin, i've heard of it but have not used it	05:03
brent113	lapinux: it could not be easier to use, I use it on all of my servers	05:03
Lapinux	brent113: i used swat once, the other times i couldnt figure out why i couldnt access it	05:03
brent113	lapinux: if you have any questions on it (i doubt you will though, it's very easy) just lemme know	05:03
Lapinux	brent113: what else does it do, would it be overkill if im just setting up shares for a local network?	05:04
tarelerulz	Samba is all ways hard to configure . I used it for sharing in windows and I never could figure out how to make my shares on the network. None of them really tell you much about sharing with windows in particular .	05:04
Daisuke_Ido	hmm... for some odd reason, i can't resize windows when using compiz	05:04
xb3rt	Does anyone here use nmap very often?	05:04
EcoBlue	N	05:04
EcoBlue	o	05:04
Lapinux	brent113: this is my personal desktop machine but i need 3 other machines to be able to acess the 1TB raid 5 array i have on it	05:05
brent113	Lapinux, it does everything, but you can turn off the modules you don't need	05:05
artfullylost	Starnestommy: usermod -d /home/homedir/ username, right?	05:05
brent113	Lapinux, never hurts to have more	05:05
brent113	Lapinux, well webmin also has mdadm support, network support, hardware support, and a ton of other iptables stuff and everything :)	05:05
Lapinux	tarelerulz: my biggest problem with samba usually ends up with me forgetting to add my local user to it :)	05:05
Lapinux	brent113: i'm gonna see what google can tell me about webmin	05:06
tarelerulz	Well, Say I just wanted to share on my lan and I don't want a user login at all. Like when you share with windows. How do you set that up ?	05:06
nickrud	!webmin \| Lapinux	05:07
ubotu	Lapinux: webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system. See !ebox instead.	05:07
Lapinux	oh, thats nice :)	05:07
Lapinux	it sounded so good	05:07
Lapinux	!ebox	05:07
ubotu	ebox is a web-based GUI interface for administering a server. It is designed to work with Ubuntu/Debian style configuration management. See the plans for Hardy at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EboxSpec	05:07
tarelerulz	Lapinux: do you ever use samba to share with windows?	05:08
Lapinux	tarelerulz: i have before, and thats what im getting ready to do	05:08
brent113	pshh, true, it only supports tar.gz installs, but if you're up to it it's awesome	05:08
tarelerulz	Lapinux: the funny part about that there is not much documents on that . Why use samba if not to share with windows ,but I have never read much on doing that	05:09
brent113	I'm sure ebox is very nice, i've never used it though. we use webmin at work too (i work at oregon state university, 20,000 people use it)	05:09
backtracker	Hi, is there any ubuntu noob channel?	05:09
Lapinux	backtracker: #ubuntu	05:10
backtracker	Lapinux: also for newbies?	05:10
Lapinux	yes	05:10
nickrud	brent113 yes, I used to use it for red hat stle configs	05:10
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Lapinux	they are there to help you, just ask your question or state your problem right up front	05:11
brent113	nickrud: did you like it?	05:11
bluebanana	I was working on a spreadsheet on docs.google.com. I decided to export it as ods, because google docs was not fast enough for me. I was working on this spreadsheet file in OpenOffice Calc for many hours. Then I clicked the save button.I closed Firefox (the browser I was using) and OpenOffice Calc. When Iopened Calc again, I went to File \| Recent Documents \|/tmp/myspreadsheet.ods, I get the error message saying:"/tmp/myspreadsheet.ods does not exi	05:11
nickrud	brent113 I used it until I understood how configs were put together (for the stuff I was interested in) then switched to the command line	05:11
lanoxx	i installed the nvidia driver from the website and had it configure xorg.conf, it crashed	05:12
brent113	nickrud: ahh, yea, I'm trying to manage dhcp, iptable, dns, mdadm, samba, and a couple other things, and a few of the things I odn't care how they work as long as they do, that's why I still use it	05:12
nickrud	bluebanana did you do a sudo updatedb && locate spreadsheet?	05:12
xb3rt	Is anyone here an nmap user?	05:13
usama	Hello Everyone!	05:13
nickrud	brent113 watch out for apache at the least. It's radically different in configuration. Not sure about the rest	05:13
lanoxx	xb3rt: what do you want to know?	05:13
brent113	!hi \| usama	05:13
ubotu	usama: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!	05:13
usama	How can I ceate Live CD from my installed Linux?	05:13
* Lokii- hi		05:14
xb3rt	lanoxx: how to use it	05:14
nickrud	!customlivecd \| usama	05:14
ubotu	usama: Creating custom Live CDs is explained on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization	05:14
prettyricky	Does anyone have Kiba Dock installed? and if so where did you find it?	05:15
lanoxx	man nmap should tell u the basics, if you just want to see which host is up try it with: nmap -sP <ip range>, e.g. nmap -sP 192.168.0.1-255	05:15
brent113	prettyricky: have you looked at avant-window-navigator also?	05:15
usama	nickrud: thanks, lemme check	05:15
ChaosParser	usama: Forget that. Try Remastersys	05:15
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juanca	hola	05:16
brent113	hello	05:16
ChaosParser	usama: http://www.remastersys.klikit.org/	05:16
Zimbo	Hi guys... quick question... is there any software (commercial or free) for Ubuntu similar to Delorme's Street Atlas USA or Microsoft's Streets & Trips?	05:16
usama	Chousuke: Remsters is asking about Orignal Ubuntu Cd and I dont have that CD	05:16
juanca	alguien que hable español	05:17
prettyricky	no never heard of that...is that better?	05:17
lanoxx	can someone help me trouble shoot the nvidia driver: http://www.pastebin.org/25408 (xorg.conf log file) http://www.pastebin.org/25409 (xorg.conf)	05:17
xb3rt	lanoxx: with nmap is it possible to scan my isps network?	05:17
brandonc503	how would i update my video card drivers in terminal?	05:17
erat123	lanoxx: have you tried using nvidia-settings it modifies your xorg file for you	05:18
lanoxx	if you tell it the hostrange of you isps network, i think it should be possible, not sure if you isp would like that though	05:18
tarelerulz	Do any of you know any good dvd authoring ?	05:18
ChaosParser	xb3rt: Wireshark can as well.. but your ISP will probably be very upset with you.	05:19
bluebanana	nickrud: no. how do i do that	05:19
lanoxx	it tells me to run nvidia-config as root and restart the x server, i belive doing so would essentially kill my x config as you can see from the log file	05:20
xb3rt	ChaosParser: Whats wrong with scanning it? If it help's im in school for network tech,..	05:20
nickrud	bluebanana copy and and paste sudo updatedb && locate <spreadsheetname>	05:20
ChaosParser	xb3rt: ISPs tend to see that sort of thing as the first part of an attack. :)	05:20
tarelerulz	I have been trying to use q dvd author and I keep getting the sound being out of sync . It does have about fix error or anything .	05:20
nickrud	bluebanana if you rebooted between saving and trying to load again, it is almost certainly gone	05:21
bluebanana	nickrud: there's a space in the name.	05:21
nickrud	bluebanana search for part of the name, locate searches for substrings	05:21
Woxdee	xb3rt: Yeah. If it's a school/university connection you're somewhat safe in the mingle of the mass of users, but I wouldn't do it to my ISP from my home connection if I were you. Some/most have strict rules about that stuff and tend to complain.	05:21
lanoxx	erat123: any idea?	05:22
noclue	I've been having issues with color on a new 28" LCD through an NVIDIA 6600GS AGP using both nvidia-glx and nvidia-glx-new drivers. The problem is resolved by enabling "Force Full GPU Scaling" in the nvidia-settings app, but the problem comes back after restarting X. When I start the nvidia-settings app again, the problem goes away. Any ideas?	05:22
D\|sToRt\|oN	any one know how i can conver avi files to IPOD ? in Ubuntu	05:22
D\|sToRt\|oN	convert*	05:22
bluebanana	nickrud: is it casesensitive?	05:22
Zimbo	Hi guys... quick question... is there any software (commercial or free) for Ubuntu similar to Delorme's Street Atlas USA or Microsoft's Streets & Trips?	05:22
nickrud	bluebanana updatedb refreshes the database to search, you can run locate <something> multiple times without rerunning updatedb	05:22
xb3rt	Woxdee: If I'm just nosing around harmlessly for a learning experience, I don't see what the problem would be, and lets say I was an attacker..I would just straight up attack	05:23
brandonc503	how would i update my video card drivers in terminal?	05:23
brent113	Zimbo: not that I know of. I'd recommend trying Wine with that software	05:23
D\|sToRt\|oN	i love beryl	05:23
Woxdee	xb3rt: I think what response you elicit from them will depend heavily on how aggressive the scan is and what kind. If you're just mapping out hosts and routes at a decent pace it's probably not much of a problem, but version detection and full-range portscans will probably raise flags.	05:23
D\|sToRt\|oN	off the hook	05:23
brent113	D\|sToRt\|oN: I hear you, it's awwesome	05:23
Zimbo	Thanks Brent113	05:23
bluebanana	nickrud: i rebooted between.... it's gone 8-(	05:23
nickrud	bluebanana yes, on case	05:23
brent113	Zimbo: another option is running windows in a virtual machine and using that only for the software	05:23
xb3rt	Woxdee: maybe i should give em a call first and see what they'll let me do	05:24
nickrud	bluebanana yes, tmp gets cleaned out each boot.	05:24
D\|sToRt\|oN	brentll3 you got Emerald theme manager ?	05:24
lanoxx	erat123: can nvidia-settings be run from the console?	05:24
bluebanana	nickrud: no!!!	05:24
brent113	D\|sToRt\|oN: I do, I use it with Compiz-Fusion though	05:24
bltrout	Is anyone using vde and a natted tun to connect multiple kvm guests to each other and the internet? If so, I could rather use some help.	05:24
bluebanana	nickrud: i should have NOT just clicked the save button. Is hould have saved the file in my home directory with a new name! 8-(	05:24
D\|sToRt\|oN	yea compizconfig is beryl ? i thought	05:24
erat123	lanoxx: no, it's for gui only. sorry, i read your question wrong at the start. i'm not very good with editing xorg.conf by hand yet	05:25
nickrud	bluebanana a true statement. I've been bit by that before also	05:25
D\|sToRt\|oN	well thats wot i got from the Tut i followed	05:25
Woxdee	xb3rt: That's polite, but it may be easier to ask forgiveness than permission, if you're really curious and don't do anything that might be perceived as harmful or malicious.	05:25
brent113	D\|sToRt\|oN: Ok, quick history compiz and beryl started off as 2 competing products, then recently they merged into compiz-fusion. essentially they do the exact same things	05:25
Woxdee	well.. it's your connection, do what you like ;p	05:25
D\|sToRt\|oN	any one know how to Encode Avi files to IPOD?	05:25
xb3rt	Woxdee: thats true,	05:25
D\|sToRt\|oN	Oh	05:25
D\|sToRt\|oN	ok	05:25
lanoxx	erat123: me neither, can you tell anything from the logfiles? is it just a wrong xorg.conf or some other problem, like kernel moduel?	05:26
Elevator_Hazard	apt-get --help && apt-get moo	05:26
xb3rt	Woxdee: How would I see the path from my gateway to the ISP?	05:26
nickrud	Woxdee xb3rt this is not the right channel for this discussion	05:27
lanoxx	xb3rt: with traceroute	05:27
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lanoxx	traceroute <ip>	05:27
ChaosParser	xb3rt: Wait, you're studying networking and don't know about traceroute? Bull.	05:27
lanoxx	xb3rt: try traceroute www.google.com to see how it works	05:27
brent113	is tracert and traceroute idenctical?	05:28
erat123	lanoxx: can you run "X -configure"	05:28
lanoxx	tracert is windows	05:28
erat123	w/o the quites	05:28
erat123	*quotes	05:28
brent113	tracert is also a package in ubuntu	05:28
alan_m	brent113, yes their identical	05:28
xb3rt	ChaosParser: Yes, i know about traceroute	05:28
lanoxx	erat123: that fixes my xorg.conf but im running on the oss driver w/o 3d	05:29
Master_Chief	i like ubuntu!	05:29
xb3rt	ChaosParser: Kind of like, not knowing what a ping does :-)	05:29
alan_m	brent113, their functionality as far as GUI or commands may be a bit different but the principle is the same.	05:29
lanoxx	erat123: thats the case at the moment	05:29
Master_Chief	can i please PM someone about videos?	05:29
erat123	lanoxx: ah.... yeah, that's over my head. sorry :-(	05:29
alan_m	!pm \| Master_Chief	05:29
ubotu	Master_Chief: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.	05:29
D\|sToRt\|oN	windows Sucks	05:29
lanoxx	any idea, where i could ask?	05:30
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tarelerulz	I love the random stuff in Linux . you try something with other file and it don't work . try it with a different one it just works.	05:30
xb3rt	lanoxx: care if i PM you for a few ?	05:30
ihmSelbst	hi all	05:30
tarelerulz	D\|sToRt\|oN, there is a lot about how to rip mp4 for the ipod	05:30
D\|sToRt\|oN	hi	05:30
ihmSelbst	who is my nickname? /me hate bncs :/	05:30
alan_m	can we contribute to the whole discussion so that maybe we can all contribute?	05:30
bluebanana	how do i put trash icon on desktop?	05:30
brent113	D\|sToRt\|oN: hey now, Windows has its place. It mandated the use of GUIs for software and emphasized usability. Now though it's becoming largely phased out	05:30
lanoxx	xb3rt: go ahead	05:31
rryan	brent113: I doubt that it has mandated the use of GUI's :). Most computers had GUI's for applications before windows existed.	05:31
D\|sToRt\|oN	<tarelerulz> well ive been googleing and all i get are these rly complicated tutorials	05:32
tgelter	when I play movies with vlc, I get no sound, when I play with totem-xine, I do. Error w/ vlc is: ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:864:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave	05:32
brent113	rryan: It made popular the use of graphical desktops and certainly advanced computing at the time	05:32
brent113	rryan: now that ubuntu and others are writing guis for everthing though it's only a matter of time. muahhahaha	05:33
lanoxx	xb3rt: wait a mom	05:34
tarelerulz	D\|sToRt\|oN I feel you about googling stuff and getting no where. I do that a lot and It takes me days of putting stuff in before I find something useful. I swear most the time I put in the same stuff ,but I get a useful hit out of the blue	05:34
Zimbo	rryan: Windows exposed the greatest number of people to GUIs. There were Macs and Amigas and X terminals, but PCs had already come to largely dominate.	05:34
Lokii-	actually you can argue the fact that a gui was macs iea and everyone else in the borld copied them	05:34
rryan	brent113: I doubt any sane person would advocate non-graphical desktops for non-technical users. many flavors of Unix like SCO and IRIX, Apple, and Xerox were making graphical workstations before Microsoft :). To be fair, Ubuntu is not writing any GUI's; most existed beforehand... Canonical is providing some sever spit-n-shine to all of it though presenting it in a package that non-technical people can grok.	05:34
Lokii-	macintosh pc'd did have a gui when dos was still in its infancy	05:35
rryan	severe*	05:35
tarelerulz	Zimbo , Have you seen an Amigas in modern times ? Do they still get made	05:35
D\|sToRt\|oN	right now im trying to WIne AnyiMax iPod Video Converter	05:35
D\|sToRt\|oN	lol but it wont run	05:35
brent113	rryan: This is very true, I don't disagree at all with that. It's worth noting of course Window's affect on advancing GUI development for everyone	05:35
Zimbo	Lokii: Yeah, and Apple copied Xerox, who copied ???, who copied ??? -- you can go on and on; the idea of GUIs didn't originate with any one person or company. On the other hand, I think it is fair to say that Microsoft seems better at examining successful techniques (as used in GUIs, etc.) and copying them than doing a whole lot of innovating themselves... but they do try. :-)	05:35
izaq	I'm try to install Sapphire HD 2600 XT Video Card Review	05:36
izaq	Sapphire HD 2600 XT Video Card Review	05:36
izaq	Sapphire HD 2600 XT Video Card Review	05:36
izaq	Sapphire HD2600 XT (AGP)	05:36
nickrud	!offtopic	05:36
ubotu	#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!	05:36
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brent113	nickrud: I knew that was coming, haha, alright, you win	05:36
tgelter	when I play movies with vlc, I get no sound, when I play with totem-xine, I do. Error w/ vlc is: ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:864:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave	05:36
Zimbo	tarelerulz: I haven't owned an Amiga since, umm... about 1996? :-) ...although I went to the Vintage Computer fair back in something like 2002 or 2003 and saw a couple of the more modern Amigas.	05:36
nickrud	izaq for that card you need the newer ati from their site, it's not supported by the driver in ubuntu	05:37
rryan	brent113 : Well... development-wise I would say they've done a disservice to GUI development, what with VB and the like... I don't think their influence was in GUI basied apps, but just providing a standard platform that was relatively consistent across versions.. software developers could target it and have reasonable assurances of portability across versions and so on... so that really helped the advancement of the	05:37
rryan	home PC	05:37
nickrud	brent113 heh. It was no big deal when there were no support requests	05:37
Silencedbear	Anyone good with sound devices ?	05:37
brent113	Silencedbear: what is your problem?	05:37
Silencedbear	Well it was working before and now it's not not really sure whats going on i looked at alsa mixer nothings muted or anything.	05:38
ihmSelbst	who is my nickname on this irc-server?	05:38
izaq	is not working with that driver form ATI also	05:38
brent113	Silencedbear: So ALSA is still the chosen mixer?	05:38
Zimbo	rryan: Visual Basic was great from a developer's perspective -- it allowed far faster development of GUI-based program than pretty much anything else to date. Certainly lots of VB programs are crap, but so are plenty of apps in any other language too.	05:38
Silencedbear	Yes	05:38
Lokii-	holy shit i'm hearing things	05:38
Lokii-	day 5 no sleep	05:39
EcoBlue	cool	05:39
brent113	Silencedbear: darn, that was my recommendation, you're making me think :( haha	05:39
EcoBlue	I'm gonna have a wonderful day today	05:39
Silencedbear	its on auto detect	05:39
nickrud	!language \| Lokii-	05:39
ubotu	Lokii-: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.	05:39
taime1	Couple Easy Questions: how do i restore my trash icon to my desktop and have it work properly? and is there some list that gnome uses to choose the icons it displays in menus, etc?	05:39
lachlan_	#pcbsd	05:39
Lokii-	yeah yeah i know	05:39
Lokii-	you really have no idea how much i hold back	05:39
nickrud	taime1 gconf-editor /apps/nautilus/desktop , enable the trash	05:39
Lokii-	some is bound to slip out though	05:39
taime1	nickrud: ah, gconf	05:40
taime1	i always forget	05:40
rryan	zimbo : Sigh... I agree ... on the making development easy thing...	05:40
nickrud	taime1 it's your ticket to ride gnome!	05:40
rryan	zimbo : but VB apps are so crappily written... it'd be better if they just couldn't write them :)	05:40
nickrud	if ya'll want to discuss windows stuff, there's always ##trash ;)	05:41
Zimbo	rryan: One last comment before I get booted for being off-topic... visit worsethanfailure.com sometime and you'll see that crappy program abound in all programming language and have a lot more to do with the person who wrote them than the language they chose to implement them in.	05:41
Zimbo	worsethanfailure.com is great ego boost for anyone who actually gives a damn about software quality :-)	05:41
taime1	i noticed that the index file that comes with icon themes gives no info about choosing specific icons for each menu entry etc... is there a master list that gnome refers to? one that i can use to name my icons properly so that they are displayed in menus, etc properly?	05:41
tgelter	when I play movies with vlc, I get no sound, when I play with totem-xine, I do. Error w/ vlc is: ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:864:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave	05:42
rryan	Zimbo : hehe yea i'm a fan of worsethanfailure.	05:42
nickrud	taime1 there's a naming convention used in the theme packs, I think gnome-look.org has some tutorials	05:42
taime1	tgelter: you might try adjusting vlc to not use alsa	05:42
taime1	nickrud: thanks again. :)	05:43
arooni	is there a rdiff-backup package for ubuntu?	05:43
tgelter	taimel: but other apps use alsa with no problems, that's what's weird	05:43
taime1	tgelter: its a good workaround so that you dont go nuts, while searching for a permanent fix ;)	05:43
Silencedbear	anyone else know about sounds ?	05:44
tgelter	taimel: noted. thanks	05:44
brent113	haha this is so funny. I originally came to this channel for support, but I ended up in tech support.	05:44
n2diy	?	05:44
Silencedbear	brent113, any suggestions ?	05:44
nickrud	brent113 be careful, you'll get sucked in. That's how useful support people get co-oped	05:44
brent113	nickrud: i work 8hours a day at the OSU helpdesk,t hen I come here, hahaha	05:45
Flannel	nickrud: shh, you don't tell them that so soon.	05:45
brent113	Silencedbear: What specific problems are you having, just no sound?	05:45
nickrud	Flannel I believe in full disclosure :)	05:45
Silencedbear	Yea i had it earlier. And now it just doesn't want to work only sound is pc beep.	05:46
brent113	Flannel: not t3h sekritz!	05:46
brent113	Silencedbear: when did this happen, did you install any packages or play with any settings?	05:46
Zimbo	In the regular Ubuntu 7.10 with Gnome, it isn't realistic to get rid of the the bottom taskbar, is it? I wish I could stick it along, e.g., the side of the screen, but the only other play it wants to really doc is the top of the screen where it doesn't fit at all	05:46
Zimbo	only other place	05:46
Zimbo	it wants to really dock	05:46
Silencedbear	Java	05:47
ppcguy	hey all, question. anyone know of a good open source vpn client that will work well with sonic wall's vpn solution?	05:47
Zimbo	For that matter, does anyone have a link to one of those "show us your Ubuntu desktop!" sites where I could take a look at some of the options?	05:47
cpk1	how would I configure dhcpd to have 2 netblocks on one interface? (To have a trusted IP's zone and untrusted IP	05:47
cpk1	's zone)	05:47
cpk1	accidently pressed enter =X	05:47
n2diy	Zimbo: right click on the talkbar, then properties, and put it where you want. At least that's how it works in Dapper.	05:47
n2diy	talkbar/taskbar	05:48
brent113	Silencedbear: hmm, that shouldn't change anything related to sound. Hold on while I look into this further	05:48
rryan	Zimbo : can't you right click the bar nad hit 'delete this panel' ?	05:48
Silencedbear	ok well maybe theres something i messed up im good at that who knows really.	05:48
Flannel	Zimbo: http://gnome-look.org/	05:48
taime1	why does gconf show options as being toggled incorrectly? is it because those options were changed using another method?	05:48
Zimbo	Ah, thanks n2diy! For some reason dragging it to the left didn't make it stick	05:48
Flannel	Zimbo: also, I believe the forums (ubuntuforums.org) has a section about that	05:48
brent113	Silencedbear: how did you install Java? With Synaptic?	05:48
backtracker	hi, how-to know with a command my WAN IP ?	05:48
cpk1	backtracker: ifconfig	05:49
alan_m	cpk1, wow...good one, heh	05:49
backtracker	cpk1: but there I can see only LAN IP	05:49
cpk1	backtracker: oh wait, you arent connected directly to the modem ar you?	05:49
Zimbo	I do like the "gravity" that Compiz (?) provides	05:49
Silencedbear	um tbh im not even sure i had to take out the java and than change a file name to make it work or something to that affect i had help from someone else.	05:49
Zimbo	Thanks Flannel	05:49
backtracker	cpk1: I connect to internet through a Router ZyXEL	05:49
n2diy	Zimbo: GL, but be warned, updates tend to rearrainge things for some unknown reason.	05:50
Lokii-	backtracker: www.moanmyip.com	05:50
backtracker	but no way by a cmd?	05:50
brent113	Silencedbear: Well, I feel compelled to ask. Have you tried to use OSS? If it works for what you need it may be easier to use that	05:50
Silencedbear	Not yet.	05:51
Zimbo	Will I be accused of being a Windows Luser if I drag the Applications/Places/System bar to the bottom of the screen? :-)	05:51
FAJALO1	i have a question about the gui	05:51
adelie42	Is there any reason why I can only get certain 'shift accessible' characters using the left shift, but not the right?	05:51
brent113	Silencedbear: Try switching to OSS and let me know what happens. If you need help with that let me know too.	05:51
Silencedbear	I dont know what to look for other than sound died. so that kinda limits my search.	05:51
FAJALO1	my friend is trying to install, ubuntu, but he's being stuck in the tty	05:51
n2diy	Zimbo: not by me, my taskbar and toolbar are both at the bottom of the screen. That's where I'm used to looking for them, and the first thing I do when I setup a Ubuntu/linux box.	05:52
brandonc503	so i downloaded .run file from http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_x86_71.86.04.html and when i type sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-71.86.04-pkg1.run like it says and i get sh: Can't open NVIDIA-Linux-x86-71.86.04-pkg1.run	05:53
* Silencedbear says well i'lll mess with it tomorrow work soon thanks again nikrud :) and brent so far.		05:53
alan_m	zimbo, i use kubuntu so naturally all my stuff is at the bottom as well ;)	05:53
FAJALO1	tried the whole sudo dpkg-reconfigure xerver-xorg	05:53
FAJALO1	but nothing	05:53
Zimbo	ok, thanks guys	05:53
brent113	brandonc503: That's because it needs to be executable. First though, try using the Restricted Drivers Manger	05:54
Zimbo	I actually used KDE with Mandriva for awhile but figured I ought to give Gnome its due too... it has grown on me a bit as I've been using it more	05:54
brandonc503	brent113: how do i make it executable?	05:54
alan_m	gnome does grow on you once you get used to it Zimbo :)	05:54
brent113	brandonc503: cd to the directory it's in, then chmod a+x [filename]	05:54
brent113	brandonc503: For NVidia Drivers though, you really should use the manager. Click System->Administration, then open the Restricted Manager and check the box	05:55
lachlan_	how do i login with my nick on freenode?	05:55
brent113	lachlan_: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup	05:56
brandonc503	brent113: will the manager allways get the correct info for driver?	05:56
brent113	brandonc503: It will use the most recent one it knows about, which at this time is the correct driver you want, so Yes	05:57
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arooni	what is the libc-dev package called?	05:57
D\|sToRt\|oN	how can i see my uptime ?	05:57
brent113	arooni: that is what it's called	05:58
brent113	D\|sToRt\|oN: type "uptime"	05:58
D\|sToRt\|oN	uptime	05:58
D\|sToRt\|oN	og in term	05:58
D\|sToRt\|oN	oh	05:58
brent113	*into the terminal sorry	05:58
D\|sToRt\|oN	22:58:36 up 19:09, 2 users, load average: 2.39, 2.56, 2.70	05:58
D\|sToRt\|oN	2 users ?	05:58
D\|sToRt\|oN	wtf	05:58
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brent113	D\|sToRt\|oN: have you logged into a tty session?	05:59
n2diy	D\|sToRt\|oN: you, and root.	05:59
brent113	ah, there we go, that too	05:59
D\|sToRt\|oN	oh yea im sudo in root atm	05:59
D\|sToRt\|oN	i mean root aka terminal	05:59
justin007827_	hello	05:59
brent113	Juhaz: hello	05:59
brent113	justin*	06:00
justin007827_	I have a question. dont know if you guys will have the answere.	06:00
arooni	what is the libacl-dev package called?	06:00
brent113	justin007827_: what's that?	06:00
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kindofabuzz	somehow i have a folder in my /home named file:, inside of it is /home but empty, i didn't create that	06:00
xybr2	I'm trying to set my ubuntu box as a temp wifi access point/router, I keep searching the forums but I dont find much useful	06:00
justin007827_	I'm trying to find a way to enable internet sharing on my box	06:00
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Starnestommy	arooni: libacl1-dev	06:00
justin007827_	and the online documentation is poor	06:00
brent113	justin007827_: look at this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91370	06:01
fdr-	hello guys.	06:01
brent113	justin007827_: have you looked at that before?	06:01
justin007827_	k, i'll check it out. its on a macbook pro. trying to share the wifi i pick up via ethernet	06:01
fdr-	I have a baffling performance regression with git on hardy	06:01
lanoxx__	modprobe nvidia get me this error: Not loading nvidia_new module; not used in /etc/X11/xorg.conf	06:01
brent113	justin007827_: hmm, that's pretty complex, but I think that tutorial will help you with that	06:02
lanoxx__	any idea what it means?	06:02
justin007827_	I tried that one, and i lost my internet all together	06:02
tarelerulz	Can you use k3b to burn a dvd directory to a iso ? or burn a dvd directory to a dvd ?	06:02
kindofabuzz	is there anyway to see what made a folder?	06:02
sap	Hi, how do i uninstall a manually installed program? like pidgin ?	06:02
kindofabuzz	or who?	06:02
brent113	lanoxx__: why are you modprobing Nvidia?	06:02
kindofabuzz	sap: sudo apt-get remove --purge pidgin	06:02
xybr2	sap, define manually	06:02
D\|sToRt\|oN	i need to athorize virtualbox for use with my username or some thing	06:03
D\|sToRt\|oN	:S	06:03
lanoxx__	brent113: because i want be nvidia binary driver to work	06:03
lanoxx__	the*	06:03
justin007827_	would the fact that I am using Atheros hal instead of mad wifi have anything to do ?	06:03
brent113	sap: if you installed it from source you will need to make uninstall or something like that	06:03
brent113	lanoxx__: Have you used the Restricted Driver Manager?	06:03
kindofabuzz	yeah go to the source directory and do sudo make uninstall?	06:03
sap	kindofabuzz, xybr2, brent113 yeh i installed the altest version from source but now need to upgrade it again	06:03
xybr2	My computer has a wwifi card that works wonderfully, and a ethernet card plugged into my modem, I want my other laptop to be able to access the internet wirelessly	06:03
co_asik	hallo, can i join with you ?	06:04
brent113	lanoxx__: First remove the current driver, then install the Manager version	06:04
kindofabuzz	i think pidgin has deb files..try getdeb.net	06:04
lanoxx__	brent113: yes, and it pretty much suxx rocks. i killed my x server with it at least each time i tried to acctivate the driver. gave it up eventually and used the binary driver from the nvidia homepage. but i figure it wont work either	06:04
xybr2	sap, did you keep the source directory in src?	06:04
kindofabuzz	yeah getdeb.net has the 2.4 pidgin	06:05
fismoll8	hey guys, is there any way to get a list of all the packages one has installed on one's linux box, make a text file out of the list, and then issue a command on a new linux box that will reference the text file and download all the packages therin? I use ubuntu	06:05
brent113	lanoxx__: So what steps have you taken so far so I don't repeat anything unnecessary	06:05
D\|sToRt\|oN	any one here uber with virtualbox and ubuntu ???	06:05
sap	xybr2, src? whats that? i deleated the source files i guess	06:05
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justin007827_	brent113, I had no luck with that tutorial. Its well written, but it breaks my network. My conection is at Ath0 when i run ifconfig, is this ok?	06:05
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brent113	D\|sToRt\|oN: yes, I basically do that	06:05
brent113	justin007827_: hmm, I'm not sure with that. Other than that tutorial, I'm not sure what to say.	06:06
fismoll8	I want to use synaptic on a new linux box to download all the packages I currently have installed on my home ubuntu box; can I create a list of all the packes I have on my current linux box, create a text file out of it, then have my new linux box reference the text file and download all the files therein?	06:06
D\|sToRt\|oN	brent113 will you look at this screen shot ? it exsplains my problem	06:06
justin007827_	its ok. I know its not an easy issue	06:06
justin007827_	I'll post somethin g on there	06:06
brent113	fismoll8: Yes, you can create a line structured like sudo apt-get install [package list]	06:06
lanoxx__	brent113: tried to load the nvida module, it failed, having nvidia-config configure my xorg.conf broke the x server, i restored a backup and now im back to where i was at the beginning.	06:06
brent113	D\|sToRt\|oN: sure	06:07
fismoll8	I know I can just copy and paste all the packages...but is there any way to dump them into a text file, and use sudo apt-get install "everything in text file"	06:07
xybr2	sap, I think you can download the latest source and run make uninstall, then install packages using apt next time	06:07
lanoxx__	brent113: http://www.pastebin.org/25408 (xorg.conf log file) http://www.pastebin.org/25409 (xorg.conf)	06:07
brandonc503	how do i update with the restricted drivers manager	06:07
D\|sToRt\|oN	http://img411.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotcl4.png	06:08
sap	xybr2, hmm.. which directory shall i run "make uninstall" in? and also if i install from repos it gives me the old version so i'll have to install from source	06:08
xybr2	Do I just need to set up DHCP on my ubuntu box to allow other computers to connect to it and get an ip?	06:08
brent113	D\|sToRt\|oN: sudo apt-get install virtualbox-ose-modules	06:08
D\|sToRt\|oN	ok	06:09
xybr2	sap, you're looking for the latest, huh? You need to run sudo make uninstall in the extracted source directory	06:09
brent113	D\|sToRt\|oN: then execute the command it lists after that: /etc/init.d/vboxdrv start	06:09
n2diy	fismoll8: open Synaptic, and check its File menu?	06:09
D\|sToRt\|oN	mike@Ubuntu-computer:~$ /etc/init.d/vboxdrv start	06:10
D\|sToRt\|oN	open: Permission denied	06:10
D\|sToRt\|oN	* Starting VirtualBox kernel module vboxdrv FATAL: Error inserting vboxdrv (/lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/misc/vboxdrv.ko): Operation not permitted	06:10
D\|sToRt\|oN	open: Permission denied	06:10
D\|sToRt\|oN	* Modprobe vboxdrv failed. Please use 'dmesg' to find out why.	06:10
FloodBot3	D\|sToRt\|oN: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.	06:10
kindofabuzz	sap: getdeb has the pidgin 2.4 .deb, isn't that the newest?	06:10
D\|sToRt\|oN	mike@Ubuntu-computer:~$	06:10
sap	xybr2, yes i'm looking at the latest. k will look for the directory	06:10
D\|sToRt\|oN	my bad	06:10
brent113	D\|sToRt\|oN: you need to sudo it, sorry	06:10
sap	kindofabuzz, is there one for fiesty? i guess last time i checked it was 2.2 for fiesty	06:10
D\|sToRt\|oN	done	06:10
brent113	D\|sToRt\|oN: is that working now?	06:10
D\|sToRt\|oN	leme try	06:10
fismoll8	hey guys, if you can get a listing of all packages installed on your linux box...then all you really need to do to back it up is to save the package list and backup /home and /etc, no?	06:10
D\|sToRt\|oN	:D	06:10
JDSBlueDevl	hi, I'm having a problem burning a DVD I authored. I'm trying to run dvdrecord under QDVDAuthor, but I'm getting an error message of "cannot open /dev/sg*"	06:11
JDSBlueDevl	does anyone know what that means?	06:11
kindofabuzz	sap: i don't think it matters what version you're on	06:11
brent113	fismoll8: theres a lot of configurations too, you should back up your /home directory too	06:11
fismoll8	basically, all you need to backup on the computer are directories where you've tweaked configuration files, text files, etc	06:11
fismoll8	I agree brent	06:11
sap	kindofabuzz, hmm.. if i remember correctly i wasnt able to install .deb for gusty	06:11
kindofabuzz	sap: forget that	06:11
fismoll8	that's what I'm saying. All you need to backup is /home and /etc	06:11
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bluebanana	hi, folks. How can I use one of the methods on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery to undelete my /tmp/ folder. PLease help.	06:11
D\|sToRt\|oN	brent113 gimme a few comps slow encodeig	06:12
D\|sToRt\|oN	ing*	06:12
kindofabuzz	yeah only 2.2 for fiesty, why not upgrade to gutsy? =)	06:12
sap	kindofabuzz k	06:12
fismoll8	especially if you use ubuntu, like me...since you can install all your packages again quite easily using synaptic	06:12
fismoll8	nonetheless, it still makes sense to backup usr and other folders...in case you screw up a command in the terminal	06:12
D\|sToRt\|oN	brent113 nope same error	06:13
JDSBlueDevl	oh, nvm, realized from cdrecord -scanbus that the program looked in the wrong place for my DVD burner	06:13
D\|sToRt\|oN	oh i need to log off	06:13
D\|sToRt\|oN	n back on	06:13
brent113	fismoll8: another cool thing about linux, if you ever move to another distro or have to re-install (never should have to though) you can move your home directory and all your things will be there	06:13
D\|sToRt\|oN	i remeber thar	06:13
D\|sToRt\|oN	that	06:13
D\|sToRt\|oN	dame keyboard	06:13
fismoll8	YUP	06:13
fismoll8	the home directory is key, although I do have some things in my .bashrc that I would like to take with me	06:14
n2diy	fismoll8: isn't .bashcr in your /home directory?	06:15
fismoll8	anyone know how to pipe a list created by dpkg -l into a text file?	06:15
fismoll8	oh yeah n2diy; you're right	06:15
JDSBlueDevl	ok, now I have a new error. dvdrecord is saying that i have an "input/output error"	06:15
fismoll8	though /etc also has a copy	06:15
fismoll8	I never edit it though	06:15
tarelerulz	JDSBlueDevl, you could use k9copy to burn it into and iso and use k3b to burn it onto a dvd	06:16
fismoll8	I generally try to keep copies of any config files I've tweaked in my home direcotyr	06:16
JDSBlueDevl	QDVDAuthor already made the iso	06:16
oshiii-_^	fismoll8, you could do dpkg -l >textfile	06:16
brandonc503	brent113: i did that cmod thing and when i open goes into gedit and says it cant open it	06:16
JDSBlueDevl	so all I have to do is go into K3b, select "burn ISO to DVD", and let it burn?	06:16
fismoll8	ah, the > sign; I had forgotten that; thanks oshiii	06:16
brandonc503	brent113: chmod a+x NVIDIA-Linux-x86-71.86.04-pkg1.run;	06:16
oshiii-_^	np	06:16
JDSBlueDevl	will that burn it into video format or data?	06:16
brent113	Brandon__: This is a binary file, open it in the terminal	06:17
brandonc503	duh	06:17
brandonc503	k	06:17
brent113	Brandon__: cd to it and sudo ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86-71.86.04-pkg1.run	06:17
tarelerulz	JDSBlueDevl , I don't know I was about to do the same thing myself	06:17
tarelerulz	I think iso is all the same	06:17
Lapinux	wow, that was great	06:18
brandonc503	brent113: says im running an x server	06:18
Lapinux	i installed ebox and it instantly killed my network connection	06:18
brent113	brandonc503: you are and will need to quit it. Have you tried using the Restricted Drivers Manager? It will save you from all this trouble	06:19
kindofabuzz	anyone know anything about xulrunner?	06:19
JDSBlueDevl	also, my iso says it's 1.6 GB, yet when I authored, analysis said it would take up 80% of the DVD. Is there something missing in the ISO, or is it just compressed?	06:19
bluebanana	how do i undelete contents of a folder?	06:20
brent113	bluebanana: Did you accidentally delete something permanently, aka not in the trash?	06:21
fismoll8	my god, the more I learn about linux, the more amazing it gets	06:21
n2diy	bluebanana: it depends, how did you delete them?	06:21
brent113	fismoll8: tru dat	06:21
fismoll8	I mean, everything becomes so much easier	06:21
fismoll8	linux and vim have changed my life more or less	06:21
brent113	haha, I'm not up to vim yet	06:21
brent113	still sacred of it	06:21
brent113	scared	06:21
fismoll8	where are all our desktop settings saved?	06:22
JDSBlueDevl	so, is a DVD ISO compressed or true size of what is to be copied to the disk?	06:22
fismoll8	are those in /home as well?	06:22
tarelerulz	JDSBlueDevl: I am glad someone beside me is trying to do that. I have been ripping and trying to make dvd and Iso for days getting all this worked out	06:22
brent113	JDSBlueDevl: it is the real size	06:22
n2diy	brent113: both word are appropriate!	06:22
bluebanana	brent113: kinda hard to explain.... i was working on a spreadsheet in google_docs. i exported to ODS. Firefox opened the file. I was working on that ODS file in OO Calc (offline... on my comp). I clicked save in OO calc. I closed Fx. I closed OO calc. I went back to OO calc. Recent documents \| tmp/myfile.ods shows error "cannot find file".	06:22
lanoxx__	brent113: i removed a cupple of the restricted drivers and now i get: sh: /sbin/lrm-video: not found	06:22
bluebanana	n2diy: see above	06:22
csb	\join #freebsd	06:22
csb	sorry	06:22
JDSBlueDevl	ok, that scares me a bit, b/c I'm now worried that not everything is in the ISO	06:23
CVD-PR	Why update-manager dont have the gnome 2.22?	06:23
JDSBlueDevl	how do I check the iso before burning it?	06:23
tarelerulz	JDSBlueDevl, I know some program compress the dvd to 4.5 . I normal dvd you buy is like 10 gb	06:23
brandonc503	brent113: the restricted drivers manager dosent give a way to update the drive, that i can find, i want to make sure that i have the moset recent and accurate	06:23
brent113	JDSBlueDevl: you can open the iso like an archive, or you can mount it as a folder	06:23
n2diy	bluebanana: Not familiar with google_docs!?	06:23
brandonc503	brent113: it will only let me enable or disable	06:23
CVD-PR	?	06:23
bluebanana	n2diy: it's basically an online version of Office.	06:23
DShepherd	CVD-PR, Ubuntu Gusty will only implement bug fixes. Hardy will have the new gnome	06:24
bluebanana	n2diy: it's Google's version.	06:24
JDSBlueDevl	how do I mount the ISO?	06:24
tarelerulz	glad you asked	06:24
brent113	brandonc503: This is true, but if you use update manager it will update it to the most recent version in the repositories	06:24
fismoll8	does anyone know in which folder desktop settings are saved in?	06:24
fismoll8	are they typically in /home?	06:24
brent113	brandonc503: If you really want to do it through the bin, that's fine, but you need to get ready for a lot of terminal action	06:24
tarelerulz	http://www.tech-recipes.com/linux_tips857.html	06:24
n2diy	bluebanana: Roger that. Sorry you didn't have it backed up locally.	06:25
tarelerulz	JDSBlueDevl: the links I post tell you have to mount iso files	06:25
DShepherd	JDSBlueDevl, sudo mount -t iso9660 iso-name.iso /mount/point -o loop	06:25
bluebanana	brent113: n2diy. i'm going to bed. so please send me the messages in such a way that when I log back on again, i can get them, okie dokie? thank you very much.	06:25
DShepherd	JDSBlueDevl, you can read what tarelerulz sent you also	06:25
brent113	was bluebanana talking about..email?	06:25
tarelerulz	That is what I use to mount all the iso I have made. So, I know it works	06:26
JDSBlueDevl	I guess I have to mkdir /mount/point first?	06:26
n2diy	bluebanana, ok, I don't know how to do that, so GN.	06:27
brent113	n2diy: yea, seriously haha	06:27
DShepherd	JDSBlueDevl, maybe :-)	06:27
lanoxx__	brent113: i removed a cupple of the restricted drivers and now i get: sh: /sbin/lrm-video: not found	06:27
brent113	DShepherd and JDSBlueDevl: there are nautilus scripts that I use that make mounting and unmounting isos a 1 click procedure, if you're interested	06:27
tarelerulz	it is pretty simple once you know how to mount and iso	06:27
JDSBlueDevl	please do send, would be interested	06:28
n2diy	brent113, must be on the Winders request list?	06:28
brent113	lanoxx__: hmm, I have not seen this error message before, not sure what to say. You could sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver, that should restore the x11 to it's original state	06:28
helpfromu	hi gurus	06:29
belkinhelp2	ok, i just installed a package called NTP but I still cannot synchronize my clock. Where is the switch to activate the previous package NTP?	06:29
lanoxx__	brent113: hmm, well its working with the origianl config now, though thats not what i want	06:29
brent113	Lanoxx: well, for reference the command is sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg	06:29
n2diy	belkinhelp2: right click on your clock, and then preferences.	06:29
brent113	Lanoxx: in case things break beoyond conventional repair	06:29
helpfromu	terminal program in ubuntu cant log what i typed and i see in the terminal window,am i right? if yes then what program should i use to be able to log everything i see in the terminal window? anyone?	06:30
neo	anybody know about ¨CHDK¨	06:30
lanoxx__	brent113: ok, thanks	06:30
brent113	helpfromu: bash logs by default, press the up key to see previous commands	06:30
helpfromu	cuz i want to capture everything printable i see in the terminal but im not sure if this is possible	06:30
brent113	helpfromu: alt-p allows you to search through previous commands too, there are a bunch of useful commands you can google	06:30
helpfromu	brent113: bash logs saves the previous commands but not including the output	06:30
JDSBlueDevl	well, everything does seem to be there, just seems a little small, especially when QDVDAuthor told me it was going to take up more space	06:31
brent113	helpfromu: oh, you want a full log, not sure aobut that	06:31
helpfromu	i want to log everything including the output i see in the terminal window	06:31
belkinhelp2	n2diy...thank you!	06:31
brent113	helpfromu: I'm looking into this further	06:31
n2diy	belkinhelp2: Your welcome, enjoy.	06:32
tarelerulz	JDSBlueDevl , before I went to burn it to a dvd I would check if the dvd/iso is what you wanted and if everything all works right	06:32
JDSBlueDevl	well, the video files are there with the audio	06:33
helpfromu	brent113: are you one of the developer of xwindow or ubuntu?	06:33
brent113	helpfromu: look at the script command	06:33
JDSBlueDevl	but how do I check to see if it'll run in a DVD player?	06:33
brent113	helpfromu: man script, for example script -a -v <logfile>	06:33
brent113	and no, I'm just a user that spends a lot of time on here	06:33
Lapinux	thats odd, i installed samba via synaptic, then added users via terminal, then when i go to system -> admin -> shared folders it tells me i need to install samba	06:34
tarelerulz	JDSBlueDevl, I would play the iso/dvd direcotry with something like vlc . Is if the menu and sound are in sync	06:34
brent113	Lapinux: it may just need to configure it so it knows it's been activated, what happens if you allow it to install it?	06:34
JDSBlueDevl	so, mount the iso then run in vlc? or just open the iso in vlc?	06:35
tarelerulz	I think it will just play iso	06:35
Lapinux	brent113: it installed, i just added a share, now to see if it worked or if i need to run "smbpasswd -a" again	06:35
spinman	hello I have a question	06:35
brent113	spinman: hello, ask away	06:35
spinman	I wanted to install windows over my ubuntu install because I've installed ubuntu on my desktop and want windows on my laptop	06:36
JDSBlueDevl	yup, iso works	06:36
JDSBlueDevl	thx	06:36
spinman	unfortunately the windows xp disk doesn't see my hard-drive	06:36
brent113	spinman: unfortunately that's not a linux problem, that's a problem with your bios and hardware	06:36
helpfromu	brent113: ill try that	06:37
brent113	spinman: do you want to completely remove linux and install windows? or just dual-boot	06:37
spinman	completely remove linux and install windows	06:37
spinman	I thought that grub wasn't mounting because the disk boots up before grub loads	06:37
tarelerulz	JDSBlueDevl , I am glad we help you. It is the one areas I work in a lot . every thing else I am still pretty much a noob as it put.	06:37
damo22	spinman: you might want to repartition your drive to get rid of linux	06:37
Lapinux	spinman: its not vista is it?	06:38
spinman	it's xp	06:38
spinman	I'm not that foolish Lapinux lol	06:38
Lapinux	spinman: lol	06:38
brent113	spinman: Windows will by default reformat the harddrive, if it doesn't see that, that's sign of a sata2 incompatibility	06:38
tarelerulz	Do any of you know of a program that can burn a dvd directory onto a dvd ? So I stand alone player will play it ?	06:38
Lapinux	i know vista has problems seeing some drives	06:38
spinman	brent113 it had windows on it before	06:38
damo22	spinman: ide or sata hdd?	06:39
spinman	uhm, not sure, anyway I can check without trying to open up my laptop?	06:39
Lapinux	brent113: samba works, that was odd that it wanted to download and install again	06:39
brent113	spinman: I'll help you if you pm me, but that is not appropriate for this channel	06:39
spinman	alright	06:39
brent113	Lapinux: well, that's good it works	06:39
Lapinux	brent113: yes, this time it was easy, i remembered to add my pass via "smbpasswd" this time	06:40
Lapinux	brent113: last time i was like what the heck, why will this not work	06:40
brent113	Lapinux: well I have good news, it only gets easier from here :)	06:40
Lapinux	brent113: oh, i've done alot of this before, its just been a while	06:40
Lapinux	brent113: i tried out vista for a while and like some of it and hated other parts, like sound issues after updates ;)	06:41
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brent113	spinman: are you using pidgin by chance?	06:41
Lapinux	brent113: needless to say i sold my copy and switched back to ubuntu	06:42
spinman	brent113 yes I am	06:42
brent113	spinman: yea, so I learned earlier today that pidgin irc doesn't work with private messages	06:42
tag	man open office keeps crashing for me for some reason	06:42
brent113	spinman: I won't be able to see anything you send	06:42
spinman	no I'm using xchat, I have pidgin open	06:42
brent113	oh, ok then	06:42
spinman	did you get my messages?	06:43
brent113	nope	06:43
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* joao_[FAR_AWAY] está away; Auto-away; inativo por 2504 segs - site[n/a] email[none@none] uin[none] log[on] pager[off] -=[Cyber]=-		06:43
spinman	I haven't registered with nickserv that's why probably	06:43
brent113	yea	06:43
brent113	do you have aim?	06:43
spinman	yes	06:43
brent113	dirtbiker39	06:43
emja	I just now installed gutsy (for my mythtv unit, replacing FC5) and can't get lirc to work. worked fine with FC5 though, so it must be something simple I'm doing wrong. As yet I can't see any activity in irw	06:43
emja	must be a low-level driver issue, I suspect. can anyone assist?	06:44
HoboBen	HI all - Rhythmbox 0.11.2 keeps the CPU at 100% with IOWaits and crashes when I quit after transfering songs to my iPod. Sometimes, not all the songs show up next time I open it, even though I can play them from the iPod before I close Rythmbox... Also, the songs transfer with wrong dates, e.g. Year 9590... any one got any ideas?	06:44
jackyyll1	DCC SEND "hax" 0 0 0	06:45
makrand	How to set Library path in Ubuntu ?	06:45
icesword	!path	06:48
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about path - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	06:48
iltechie	\o	06:48
bullgard4	English help wanted. What is a 'lasting connection' precisely in en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Session_(computer_science): "In computer science, in particular networking, a session is either a lasting connection using the session layer of a network protocol or a lasting connection between a user (or user agent) and a peer, typically a server, usually involving the exchange of many packets between the user's computer and the server. A session is t	06:50
DarKnesS_WolF	can anyone points me to a howto get the tv-tuner in All-In-Wounder-128Pro to work with Ubuntu ?	06:50
SkiddyFisk	is there a shell command to resolve an IP?	06:50
iltechie	!paste	06:50
ubotu	pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)	06:51
HeRo^^	how to provied volume priviliges to a new user ?? from where to open admin tool from terminal?? what is the command????	06:51
bullgard4	SkiddyFisk: You cannot resolve the Internet protocol	06:51
brent113	SkiddyFisk: ping can do that	06:52
SkiddyFisk	how do I make a series of four numbers between 0 and 255 separated by periods resolve into a hostmask with letters and stuff	06:52
brent113	SkiddyFisk: ping google.com	06:52
SkiddyFisk	I tried that, it just gives me the IP back	06:52
brent113	SkiddyFisk: you're trying to reverse-lookup the ip to the hostname?	06:53
SkiddyFisk	Yes, my bad, wrong words	06:53
brent113	nslookup	06:53
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brent113	then type the ip into the prompt	06:53
brent113	iyou may need to install the tool first	06:54
SkiddyFisk	I have it, thanks	06:54
SkiddyFisk	it's giving me nothing, but that appears to be the right command XD	06:54
brent113	SkiddyFisk: not all ips have registered a reverse lookup name, it's not enabled by default, the host must specify it	06:55
taime1	i cant find any info on naming icons properly.. i have googled for an hour. how do you name icons in gnome so that they are used properly in all places?	06:57
brent113	taime1: I'm not sure what you're referring to, can you be more specific, like an example?	06:58
chrionix	hi all, after booting my new hardy dvd, I get to the menu and I can't press any keys, any ideas?	06:59
iltechie	\o again	06:59
taime1	well, lets say an icon.png is meant for the Appearance entry in the menu, how do i know what to name icon.png so that it is used?	06:59
iltechie	anyone had experience with defragmenter ?	06:59
brent113	chrionix: use #ubuntu+1 for hardy support	06:59
iltechie	pool/universe/d/defrag/defrag_0.73pjm1-7_i386.deb ?	06:59
chrionix	brent113: cheers mate	07:00
DistroJockey	taime1: http://library.gnome.org/devel/icon-naming-spec/	07:00
brent113	iltechie: ext3 really doesn't need to be defragged, are you thinking of something in specific?	07:00
brent113	taime1: the application launcher has a field in it that tells it what to use. the name of the icon is irrelvant	07:00
brent113	taime1: right click on the menu->edit menus. that will let you edit the launchers	07:01
taime1	brent113: not at all what im reffering to.. but thanks anyways, DistroJockey got me... cheers	07:01
bullgard4	taime1: GNOME Right-click on the upper panel > Add to Panel ... > will open a window 'Add to Panel' which lists most of the icons.	07:01
DistroJockey	taime: cool, np :)	07:01
taime1	its exactly what ive been looking for all night.. why was it so hard to find? maybe cuz i didnt know exactly what i was searching for...	07:02
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brent113	DistroJockey: What is that list for?	07:02
DistroJockey	taime: Happens :) I remember seeing it before by chance	07:03
Ayabara	I need to copy some 8GB from a samba network drive. What's the fastest way to do this? Right now I'm trying out gnomevfs-copy.	07:03
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brandonc503	so what is this x server and how do you close it?	07:03
brent113	Ayabara: nautilus is very fast, mounting it with cifs is a little bit faster though	07:03
iltechie	brent113, ext2 ext3 do not get easily fragmented but believe that phenomena (fragmenting) holds true for any FS on earth	07:03
DistroJockey	brent113: the list for the proper icon names (probably for theme development)	07:03
Ayabara	brent113: I tried with nautilus yesterday. On the second file it said "failed, invalid argument", and that was it :-/	07:04
\|lilox\|	Hi!	07:04
* Svenstaro greets DistroJockey		07:04
iltechie	quite natural, when after deleting many small files you try to allocate a huge file, think what happens then	07:04
DistroJockey	brent113: found it under Standards at this address http://library.gnome.org/devel/references	07:04
Ayabara	brent113: I'll try mounting it	07:04
* Svenstaro greets \|lilox\|		07:04
brent113	iltechie: trust me, I am fully aware of this. At this time there is no online defragmenter for ext3, though there is something that moves files around to essentially "defrag"them. Ext4 is being designed with an online defragger in it though	07:04
\|lilox\|	:D	07:04
iltechie	some fragmenting is inevitable	07:04
DistroJockey	***Svenstaro Greets :)	07:04
brent113	DistroJockey: Ahh, thanks for the clarification	07:04
\|lilox\|	i Think that i need help :P	07:05
DistroJockey	brent113: nods np	07:05
iltechie	online defragger.ok	07:05
brent113	iltechie: Yes, but the more its used, the ext3 volume will defrag itself if you keep the filesystem not jam packed	07:05
\|lilox\|	i can see my second monitor in the Screen and graphics preferences	07:06
brent113	iltechie: I've had a 1Tb filesystem at 99.6% filled, and I had about 45% fragmentation, it was terrible	07:06
iltechie	but what about some defrging in safe mode, pure maintenance, moreover many of us has some fat32 or ntfs FS on same system	07:06
\|lilox\|	can't sorry	07:06
DistroJockey	Svenstaro: Well rested I hope? ;)	07:06
\|lilox\|	why?	07:06
Svenstaro	sure sure	07:06
DistroJockey	:)	07:06
Svenstaro	thanks for askin :)	07:06
DistroJockey	nods :)	07:06
Svenstaro	I was able to finally help the poor fella btw	07:06
brent113	iltechie: there is no "defragmenter" for ext3 at all. your best options are copy all the file off, then put them back on, and use this program whose name escapes me to shuffle the fiels around on the disk	07:07
K_	hola	07:07
iltechie	brent113, I saved people many times of their neglection defrgginMS systems,	07:07
DistroJockey	Svenstaro: you helped him through a fair bit. No work	07:07
\|lilox\|	hola	07:07
DistroJockey	^nice^	07:07
\|lilox\|	alguien que me ayude con mi monitor?	07:07
iltechie	I would like to ahve this ability n LINUX systems aswell	07:07
artenius	!es \| \|lilox\|	07:08
ubotu	\|lilox\|: En este canal, solamente hablamos ingles. Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.	07:08
iltechie	so pool/universe/d/defrag/defrag_0.73pjm1-7_i386.deb is familiar, used	07:08
K_	alguien me ayude a pasar un fichero o otro cpu via remota	07:08
brent113	iltechie: want to know somehting amusing? the maker of the ntfs filesystems, comminsioned by microsoft to executive software, makes diskeeper, the #1 defragger of windows	07:08
iltechie	or not?	07:08
brent113	iltechie: coincedence? I think not	07:08
\|lilox\|	...	07:08
iltechie	funny yeah	07:08
DistroJockey	brent113: heh	07:08
iltechie	and not a coincidence I agree	07:08
\|lilox\|	well, any help?	07:08
brent113	iltechie: ext3 is journaled unlike ntfs so it doesn't not accumulate defragmentation	07:08
iltechie	they simply asked the one that crated the mess to fix it	07:09
Ayabara	is there a command line tool for copying that will show me the progress of copying? the percentage I mean.	07:09
brent113	iltechie: some files will fragment, others will defragment themselves as they are used, so it's really not an issue	07:09
Slart	Ayabara: cp can't do it.. but you can use rsync .. but most workarounds like this gives you about 30% longer copying times.. your choice	07:10
Ayabara	Slart: than cp it is :-)	07:10
iltechie	brent113, I thought journallng had to do with crsh reovery, not AVOIDINfragmenttiton	07:10
iltechie	DEFRGMENT THEMSELVES HOW	07:10
Slart	Ayabara: indeed.. 30% longer copying times compared to cp	07:10
iltechie	sorry for capitals	07:10
brent113	iltechie: journalling allows the filesystem to help with crash recovery, but it also lists where the available free block are, so linux can assign a large file a large block and prevent defragmentation like that	07:11
brent113	iltechie: does that make sense?	07:11
brent113	iltechie: ext3 also allows files room to append at the end, so adding to a file will not cause fragmentation	07:11
iltechie	well brent113 yes, any source t oread about that ability of ext3FS manager, that you know of ?	07:12
brent113	iltechie: if you give me a second I can find some others other than wikipedia	07:13
Maxdamantus	What's the package to apt-get to get ccsm working?	07:13
Slart	compizconfig-settings-manager I think	07:13
iltechie	I still have no found a comprehensive reading on issue,	07:13
iltechie	ty brent113	07:13
Maxdamantus	Apparently it doesn't exist.	07:13
ElTimo	is avant-window-navigator supported here?	07:13
Maxdamantus	In 7.04?	07:13
brent113	iltechie: http://lwn.net/Articles/81357/ this discusses block allocation	07:13
j3kyll	does anyone know alot about dvd and playback? ... + codecs?	07:13
brent113	ElTimo: what's your question	07:13
Slart	!info compizconfig-settings-manager	07:14
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ElTimo	im trying to install it from source in hardy (version 0.2.6 of awn) and im getting this error	07:14
Slart	ubotu? sleeping?	07:14
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about sleeping? - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	07:14
Slart	!info compizconfig-settings-manager	07:14
ElTimo	avant-window-navigator: error while loading shared libraries: libawn.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory	07:14
brent113	ElTimo: ahh, hardy is supported in #ubuntu+1	07:14
Maxdamantus	ubotu? compizconfig-settings-manager	07:14
ElTimo	j3kyll: install ubuntu-restricted-extras	07:15
j3kyll	can anyone help me with dvd, dvd playback and codecs?	07:15
Maxdamantus	ubotu? compizconfig-settings-manager?	07:15
DistroJockey	!compizconfig-settings-manager	07:15
meekolope	hello all	07:15
j3kyll	ElTimo : i just had a quick question. i have it working	07:15
DistroJockey	ubotu doesn't seem to like compiz	07:15
Slart	Maxdamantus: hmm.. ubotu seems to be a bit out for the moment	07:15
brent113	!compiz	07:15
ubotu	Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion	07:15
ElTimo	o ok	07:15
DistroJockey	hehe	07:16
j3kyll	ElTimo : while trying to get dvd to work i downloaded many video codec. which one is required by vlc? so i may remove the others...	07:16
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jak2001	hi all	07:16
brent113	jak2001: hello	07:16
jak2001	how recover or reset a root password?	07:16
ElTimo	j3kyll: er......just to be safe, leave the others, you never know if you may need them	07:16
Jangari	I'm trying to install oxygen xml editor, but it's coming up with a java error, apparently I don't have the latest version of java. How do I check which version I have? Also, the website says to check your PATH variable, can someone help me out on that?	07:16
iltechie	By the time a file requests a new block, the space immediately after the file on disk may well have been allocated for some other file. At that point, a contiguous allocation will be impossible.	07:16
j3kyll	alright, good idea ;)	07:16
iltechie	brent113, ty	07:16
brent113	iltechie: my pleasure	07:17
iltechie	lst quote taken from your link	07:17
meekolope	jak2001: are u using grub as a boot loader?	07:17
brent113	jak2001: have you assigned a root password yet?	07:17
iltechie	^^	07:17
jak2001	brent113 yes	07:17
jak2001	yes grub	07:17
brent113	jak2001: can you sudo passwd to change it?	07:17
jak2001	cant	07:17
meekolope	jak2001: and do u already have a root password? do u wanna change it or do u not know it at all	07:17
jak2001	meekolope not remember the root password...	07:18
brent113	jak2001: http://wiki.clug.org.za/wiki/How_do_I_reset_my_root_password%3F I'd look at that	07:18
jak2001	need reset	07:18
iltechie	and still defragging fat32 and ntfs without leaving linux desktop i an open q.	07:18
DistroJockey	jak2001: This might help: http://www.debuntu.org/recover-root-password-single-user-mode-and-grub	07:18
shameless	does anyone have any experience at getting a ps3 controller to pick up in gutsy?	07:18
brent113	iltechie: personally, i'll tell you how I do it	07:18
meekolope	DistroJockey: thats what i was gonna suggest :P. nice work	07:18
brent113	iltechie: I attach vmware to the windows installation and run diskeeper within the vm	07:19
DistroJockey	meekolope: hehe :) Cheers. And nice one too brent113	07:19
jak2001	ok thanks	07:19
meekolope	jak2001: np	07:19
shameless	or rather, where some more detailed instructions than what's on the official site are, i'm not that experienced in linux and admittedly get rather lost when i look at that	07:19
brent113	DistroJockey: :) we're a good team	07:19
jak2001	anyone here use blackberry?	07:19
brent113	negative ghostrider	07:20
arooni	how can i figure out how big /var/ is?	07:20
DistroJockey	brent113: :)	07:20
brent113	iltechie: http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Linux-NTFS_FAQ#How_do_I_defragment_an_NTFS_Volume.3F	07:20
brent113	iltechie: I find that amusing, the linux recommendation is to use windows	07:20
ere4si	arooni: df -h in a terminal	07:20
arooni	thats giving me the whole parittion	07:21
arooni	not just /var	07:21
DistroJockey	arooni: du /var	07:21
DistroJockey	arooni: du -h /var (too make it easier to read)	07:21
sap	I compiled the latest pidgin from source but it still starts the old version if I do it from applications>internet menu . However, if I start it from terminal it launches the latest version . How do I change the applications menu shortcut?	07:21
DistroJockey	arooni: total size will be the last line	07:22
RioMerc_	One question	07:22
RioMerc_	Task manager for ubuntu?	07:22
brent113	sap: go to getdeb.net and download the deb from there	07:22
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shameless	there's a tray item, system monitor	07:22
ChaosParser	RioMerc_: System>Administration> SystemMonitor.	07:22
RioMerc_	Thanks	07:22
brent113	sap: http://getdeb.net/app/Pidgin	07:22
sap	brent113, I already installed the latest version. getdeb has an older one	07:22
brent113	o really? interesting	07:23
shameless	but any ideas for the sixaxis on ubuntu?	07:23
brent113	it looks like 2.4.0 to me on both sites	07:23
sap	brent113, yeah.. for fiesty its 2.2	07:23
brent113	oh, feisty, I see	07:23
sap	yeah	07:23
brent113	well, right click the menu, edit	07:23
brent113	you can add a custom launcher	07:24
sap	but now there seem to be 2 versions on my comp and the applications menu seem to have a shortcut of the older version	07:24
brent113	sap: yes, use the menu editor	07:24
Jangari	I'm trying to install oxygen xml editor, but it's coming up with a java error, apparently I don't have the latest version of java. How do I check which version I have? Also, the website says to check your PATH variable, can someone help me out on that?	07:24
sap	brent113, so what do i type in the name , command and comment?	07:24
brent113	Jangari: are you sure the PATH car advice isn't referring to windows?	07:24
brent113	sap: right clikc the menu, edit	07:25
brent113	oh, i'm sorry	07:25
brent113	few steps behind	07:25
DistroJockey	Jangari: $ java -version	07:25
sap	brent113, ya i'm already there . but if i want to add a new pidgin shortcut then it asks for name , command and comment fields?	07:25
brent113	sap: Name, Pidgin, comment is optional, command [path to pidgin binary]	07:25
Jangari	thanks DistroJockey, it seems i ave 1.4xxxx and i need 1.5	07:26
Jangari	s/ave/have	07:26
brent113	sap: if you can launch pidgin from the terminal by typing just pidgin, then that will work as well	07:26
sap	brent113, the command in previous shortcut is already "pidgin" .	07:26
DistroJockey	Jangari: np	07:26
brent113	sap: then I would look where the new pidgin was install too	07:26
sap	brent113, but I'd like the gui way instead of going to the terminal everytime	07:26
Jangari	so how do I upgrade to 1.5? I've never really worked with java, nor actually had to do anything	07:27
sap	brent113, umm.. i installed it in /opt .. so k let me just check that dir	07:27
brent113	sap: it might be in /usr/bin /usr/share/ or /var or /opt anything	07:27
brent113	yes, it's probably /opt/pidgin/pidgin	07:27
DistroJockey	Jangari: $ echo $PATH (for the path bit)	07:27
brent113	sap: if you can launch that path from the terminal and it's the right version, put that in the launcher	07:27
DistroJockey	Jangari: not sure on the upgrade sorry	07:28
sap	brent113, i can just use "pidgin" from terminal to launch the right version	07:28
Jangari	running the oxygen.sh returns: Please define INSTALL4J_JAVA_HOME to point to a suitable JVM.	07:28
brandonc503	so if i change my video card does the restricted drivers manager update? cause im worried it has the info for last vid card	07:28
Jangari	will cacao suffice?	07:29
brent113	sap: then put pidgin in the launcher	07:29
sap	brent113, k	07:29
melvste2	hi all, im trying to install kubuntu (7.10) on a laptop with a new hard drive, but my machine seems too slow to go through the live cd and install process, is there another way?	07:29
iltechie	brent113, amusing ,yes.sorry distracted	07:29
sap	brent113, putting just "pidgin" in launcher launches the old version	07:30
brent113	brandonc503: maybe, but i'd recommend a dpkg-reconfigure nvidia-glx-new	07:30
iltechie	Btw reading for certification	07:30
ere4si	melvste2: the alternate cd is what you need	07:30
brent113	brandonc503: or even better, completely remove, reboot, then reinstall	07:30
tyron	Hi can anyone help with sound on toshiba a200?	07:30
brent113	tyron: what seems to be the problem	07:30
brent113	sap: use the full path then	07:31
tyron	i have no sound at all i have upgraded to alsa 1.0.16	07:31
tyron	i have tried using 8.04 live cd and sound works	07:31
brent113	tyron: did you upgrade using update-manager? or from source?	07:31
tyron	source	07:32
sap	brent113, yeah just tried that and it works to the new version now :) . but its weird that same command in terminal launches new version but in application launches the old one	07:32
iltechie	brent113, you in good shape,let the fore be with you. try not to overburn, though!	07:32
iltechie	fore = force	07:32
brent113	tyron: you need to use what's provided in synaptic. Remove the source version and install it from synaptic	07:32
sap	brent113, also how do i remove the old version completely .. since i dont need it now /	07:32
brent113	iltechie: you too?! haha	07:32
brent113	sap: did you isntall it from source?	07:32
melvste2	ere4si: my machine is not THAT slow it's 650mhz with 128mb ram, knoppix live cd runs on it, but with kubuntu it gets to the desktop and the cd goes round before the install icon arrives... for about 2 hours	07:32
sap	brent113, yes	07:32
sap	brent113, but i dont remember the directory where i installed it	07:33
GEIS	how do i change the username of root?	07:33
brent113	sap: mmm, since you have 2 versions installed I'm not sure, but you could try a make remove	07:33
melvste2	i was wondering if there's a better install option than run the live and click the icon?	07:33
brent113	or mak uninstall, for pidgin I forget which one it is	07:33
brent113	melvste2: it depends on your goal?	07:33
sap	brent113, tho there is an install directory lying in my home folder for both versions	07:33
lzzz	if i run 3dmark 2001 with desktop set to native 1680x1050 then 3dmark quit with "window lost focus" error, if i run with 1024x768, it run ok for 1st test, but quit with same error for 2nd test, and with quitting i found desktop set to 1680x1050. it seems ubuntu switching video modes without asking. how to prohibit any resolutions but 1024x768 to prevent mode switching?	07:33
ere4si	melvste2: the livecd needs more ram - 192mb+	07:33
tyron	how do i remove the source version?	07:33
brent113	sap: if it doesn't bother you I'd just leave it alone	07:33
brent113	tyron: at one point you probably typed make install, yuo need to type make uninstall	07:34
brent113	or make remove	07:34
GEIS	how do i change the username of root?	07:34
prince_jammys	you don't	07:34
sbingner	GEIS, don't	07:34
sbingner	but if you must... edit /etc/passwd	07:34
sap	brent113, hmm.. ya that'd be okay with me.. but its just a bit itchy and makes me wanna learn how to uninstall also.. lol.. but nvm .. i'll try to find a way	07:35
GEIS	username is being change there?	07:35
sbingner	it is STORED there	07:35
sbingner	don't mess with it	07:35
GEIS	for example i have a username call test1 and i want to rename to test2 i just edit /etc/passwd?	07:35
brent113	sap: if you really want to know, open the make file it comes with and look for the opposite of install	07:35
sbingner	that would work, but their home directory would stay the same	07:35
DistroJockey	GEIS: "Renaming root is generally a bad idea"	07:35
sap	brent113, oh okay	07:35
Jangari	gah, why is the oxygen.sh offering to open in wine?!	07:35
brent113	sap: it will detail how it goes about removing the program	07:35
sbingner	unless of course you use something besides standard authentication mechanisms	07:35
tyron	before i upgraded it was not even detecting my sound card, does that change anything?	07:35
sap	brent113, i see . thanks	07:35
GEIS	why?	07:35
brent113	sap: if you're interested in make files theres a lot of documentation for them. Often they are automatically generated by the c++ ide	07:36
sap	brent113, so i'm right now lookin for make file in the source directory	07:37
brent113	tyron: yes that does change things, did the live cd detect it at all?	07:37
tyron	yes but with no sound	07:37
brent113	tyron: but the hardy cd detects it with sound?	07:37
tyron	hardy being 8.04? then yes	07:38
DistroJockey	GEIS: Not sure yet ;) Looking into it. (sounds like a bad idea though)	07:38
brent113	tyron: I hate to put this off, but you know, hardy is being released in just a few days....	07:38
DistroJockey	GEIS: I know it is common on Windows to rename Administrator, so ...	07:38
tyron	really? and a new version should still be as stable?	07:39
brent113	tyron: remember, this version, gutsy is only 6 months old!	07:39
DistroJockey	GEIS: What is the reason you wish to change root?	07:40
tyron	brent113: Thanks i guess i should just stay away from music/ movies for a few more days then	07:40
sbingner	GEIS, it provides no benefit... and it's confusing to administrators... and some programs may check for root by looking for 'root'	07:40
sbingner	which would of course be bad	07:40
brent113	tyron: if you really want i'll help you fix it. but when hardy comes out of beta you'll probably end up upgrading	07:40
sap	What is the difference between "make clean" and "make distclean" ?	07:40
sbingner	sap, distclean will remove cache files etc... and will remove your makefile	07:41
DistroJockey	sbingner: GEIS: And hackers just use the UID 0 instead of the name	07:41
brent113	sap: make clean removes the compiled binaries	07:41
sbingner	sap, it returns it to the state it was for distribution	07:41
brent113	sap: clean only cleans the local folder though, not the system	07:41
tyron	brent113: i wont waste your time. if it really gets to me ill just keep gogleing and trying things	07:41
brent113	tyron: well feel free to stop by again	07:42
sap	sbingner, brent113 so will using both make clean and make distclean equivalent to uninstall ? i guess not ?	07:42
makrand	How To Set Library Path In Ubuntu ?	07:42
brent113	sap: distclean should suffice	07:42
gbates31	has anyone successfully connected to their iphone using ubuntu?	07:42
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sap	brent113, oh k then i guess i've successfully uninstalled the old pidgin :))	07:42
brent113	well, snap, I have to be up for work in 6 hours, look how the time flies	07:42
brent113	good night everybody	07:42
sap	night	07:43
sap	and thatnks	07:43
Svenstaro	n8	07:43
sbingner	sap, not even remotely. no.	07:43
tyron	brent113: thanks.	07:43
brent113	yw	07:43
sap	sbingner, oh I thought brent113 meant that	07:43
sbingner	sap, make clean/distclean has nothing to do with any install binaries	07:43
sbingner	*installed	07:43
sbingner	only the source tree	07:43
sap	sbingner, btw I also went into the source folder and did make uninstall... and it displayed some code .. so has my previos pidgin version been uninstalled?	07:44
sbingner	and there often is no "make uninstall"	07:44
gbates31	anyone with an iphone here that can connect thru amarok or gtkpod?	07:44
sbingner	sap, probably... if not... why do you care?	07:44
arooni	just one q: when does cron.daily get run?	07:44
sbingner	just install a new one	07:44
tyron	brent113: ubuntu says it is out in 29 days?	07:44
sap	sbingner, so u mean just continue running with the latest version whilst leavign the old one there?	07:45
sbingner	sap, the new one will have overwritten the old one	07:45
sbingner	unless you installed to different locations	07:45
sap	sbingner, no it didnt , i used the /opt directory for the new one .. dunno where the old one was?	07:45
sbingner	sap, well just make sure you run the one from opt and you'll be fine... unless you're worried about hdd space	07:46
sap	but is this the way linux works .. i mean you dont bother removing the old versions	07:46
sbingner	this is why you use PACKAGES	07:46
sbingner	they clean up old versions etc	07:46
sap	sbingner, yeah i changed the path in applications to the new path	07:46
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sap	packages dont upgrade that much	07:46
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sap	and not even closely if one is still using fiesty or another older ubuntu :(	07:47
sbingner	well you can make your own packages if it's too slow for you	07:47
sbingner	otherwise, make sure you know where things are and manually clean them up	07:47
sap	sbingner, u mean i create my own .deb ?	07:47
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mmkaresz	Hi there!	07:47
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sap	sbingner, and my .deb would remove the old version ?	07:48
mmkaresz	can i have a question about upgrade ubuntu 7.10 - 8.40?	07:48
Deeppact	Hello, does anyone know a good Java irc channel or can anoyone help me?	07:48
Svenstaro	sap, no it wouldnt, not automatically, only if it was called exactly the same, to be sure manually purge the old version	07:48
sbingner	sap, if it was installed by a .deb yes	07:48
sap	Svenstaro, hmm.. i see	07:48
sbingner	if you did it your self, it's up to you to take care of it	07:49
legacy--	can i install ubuntu on playstation2?	07:49
Svenstaro	sap, for making a package I recommend checkinstall	07:49
DistroJockey	Deeppact: what sort of issue with Java?	07:49
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Finnish	Anyone ditched Gutsy for Heron here, yet?	07:49
Svenstaro	legacy--, you'd have a hard time	07:49
sbingner	Svenstaro, deb files don't have upgrade support?	07:49
Deeppact	how can I check in java if a variabele is empty or not	07:49
sap	sbingner, yeah i learnt it that one has to remember the location while installing for a good and efficient removal	07:49
Svenstaro	Finnish, yes quite a few people, and they love it	07:49
DistroJockey	Deeppact: ahh, that sort. Sorry, no idea :(	07:49
sap	Svenstaro, yeah i tried with checkinstall but it didnt work with it	07:49
Svenstaro	sbingner, yes they do, in a way that is. The old package needs to be removed first.	07:49
legacy--	how come?	07:49
sbingner	Svenstaro, k as I was thinking then	07:50
Svenstaro	legacy--, i dont think anybody has ever done it. Theres a linux version for ps3 tho :)	07:50
DistroJockey	Finnish: Havn't ditched Gutsy (am running both) but I do like Heron alot.	07:50
Finnish	Svenstaro: I tried it on my laptop (lappy has VIA Unichrome-video card, that works now), but somehow Gutsy feels a more home-like	07:50
Svenstaro	Finnish, well, go with whatever you want of course :) or try hardy when its done again	07:51
simtower	hi, how to get ubuntu to change wireless network location automatically?	07:51
Deeppact	how can I check in java if a variabele is empty or not	07:51
Svenstaro	simtower, you mean like it should be aware of where it is located?	07:51
Finnish	Yeah. I don't know if it was my lappy or something, but Bluetooth was PITA in hardy, but in know it's still BETA	07:51
Svenstaro	Deeppact, manually or automatically?	07:51
simtower	Svenstaro, yes, like Windows	07:52
DistroJockey	Finnish: the #ubuntu+1 channel may be of interest to you	07:52
Svenstaro	Finnish, bluetooth is usually a bit akward in ubuntu	07:52
sjovan_	hey, for some strange reason opera wont work any more on stuff like youtube-videos og myspace-music. Any ide how to fix it?	07:52
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sap	k, another question about backup: So right now I'm runnin fiesty but would like to upgrade to 8.04 when it's out (a clean install) . What all places do i need to backup and what program shall I use for backup?	07:52
Svenstaro	simtower, you should google for that one im afraid	07:52
Finnish	DistroJockey: Yeah, I've been there, just want some opinions here also	07:52
DistroJockey	Finnish: nods	07:53
Svenstaro	sap, your home directory alone and the dpkg package list should be fine	07:53
Finnish	But I guess there is no point to refuse the coming upgrade, or is there?	07:53
Svenstaro	Finnish, no there isnt :)	07:53
DistroJockey	Finnish: I don't think so :)	07:53
sap	Svenstaro, whats the secone thing " dpkg list" ??	07:54
illabled	hello?	07:54
DistroJockey	Hi illabled	07:54
GEIS	how do i check for ssh unsuccessful login attempts?	07:54
Svenstaro	sap, try the following in console "dpkg --get-selections"	07:54
simtower	tail /etc/var/auth.log	07:54
simtower	GEIS	07:54
illabled	any suggestions on how to get NIC functional on my Gutsy Thinkpad T30?	07:54
prince_jammys	!clone \| sap	07:55
ubotu	sap: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate	07:55
Finnish	But I'm really happy here, my parents-in-law are no 100% Ubuntu-people, thanks to me. They were struggling with Win XP with their old machine	07:55
GEIS	sk	07:55
GEIS	simtower tail?	07:55
a7p	hi everyone. Does anyone know how to run miro1.2 on hardy?	07:55
illabled	hi distrojockey	07:55
bazhang	illabled: what card is it?	07:55
simtower	or cat if you want to see the whole thing GEIS	07:55
illabled	hmm 0ne sec	07:55
DistroJockey	simtower: you would think they would put that in /var/log/ssh :)	07:55
sap	Svenstaro, prince_jammys k ty	07:55
GEIS	auth.log no such file exist	07:56
Finnish	Their PC-friend told them Ubuntu is not a good solution, but they were quite fast comfortable with Ubuntu so they told him to piss off hehe	07:56
simtower	GEIS i meant /var/log/auth.log	07:56
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simtower	thanks DistroJockey	07:56
radja_langit	l	07:56
Svenstaro	Finnish thats the spirit	07:56
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DistroJockey	simtower: ahh, cool, np, not used SSH :)	07:57
sap	So will that dpkg thing create an archive of my currently installed packages or will it just create a list and download the new versions when I do a clean install?	07:57
prince_jammys	sap: creates a list	07:57
Svenstaro	sap, only a list :) all the world will be your backup	07:57
illabled	bazhang - do you know a way to find out hardware properties?	07:57
prince_jammys	!aptoncd \| sap	07:57
ubotu	sap: APTonCD is a tool with a graphical interface which allows you to create one or more CDs or DVDs with all of the packages you've downloaded via apt-get or aptitude, creating a removable repository that you can use on other computers	07:57
Svenstaro	sap so your backup is a bunch of information only. this is waht makes ubuntu so neat	07:57
illabled	i am new to linux and IRC lol	07:57
GEIS	simtower, how do i clear those logs though	07:58
bazhang	illabled: you on the machine now? try lspci in ther terminal	07:58
illabled	ok	07:58
sap	but I'm still unclear whether it'll install the latest version when I unpackage it later ?	07:58
Svenstaro	yes it will sap	07:58
sap	okie I see	07:58
Svenstaro	you do need internet of course	07:58
reaz	hiiiiiiiiii	07:59
sap	lol yeah internet is necessary	07:59
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GEIS	how do i clear /var/log/auth.log logs?	07:59
sap	Svenstaro, and with that list in my hand I can do a manual install of those packages as well on the new distro-version ??	08:00
Ruson	hey, a little question. I want to install Ubuntu server and in the website it say it's supported till 2009. I suppose there will be new version until then and it'll be supported again, but the question is if i'll be able to update to the new version remotly?	08:00
illabled	Intel 82801CAM (ICH3) PRO/100 VE (LOM) Ethernet Controller (rev 42)	08:00
illabled	i just installed gutsy on it and can't apt-get update	08:00
Svenstaro	nonono, not manual, you'll do a sudo dpkg --set-selections < yourbackfile.txt and it will do it automatically	08:00
bazhang	Ruson: another LTS will be due in about four weeks; that will be supported more long term	08:00
DistroJockey	GEIS: I guess deleting the file would do it. But it does have other stuff besides SSH	08:00
sjovan	illabled: sydo apt-get update	08:01
DistroJockey	GEIS: make a copy first if you try :)	08:01
sjovan	illabled: sudo apt-get update *	08:01
Ruson	hm	08:01
illabled	can't no no LAN	08:01
cpk1	Ruson: yeah if you can just wait till the end of next month and you will be able to use the new lts product	08:01
bazhang	illabled: that looks like the ethernet; did you not want to get the wireless working on that?	08:01
illabled	no wireless yet	08:01
illabled	unless i can use a belkin USB card	08:01
cpk1	Ruson: other wise you would have to reinstall or go through a messy string of upgrades since you cant skip versions while upgrading	08:01
sap	Svenstaro, ok i got that :)	08:01
Ruson	oh	08:02
illabled	just trying to get some type of connection so I can update	08:02
sap	!automate	08:02
ubotu	Ways to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html - See also !cloning	08:02
arooni	is there a cool utility lik htop that lest u see incoming/outgoing network traffic?	08:02
GEIS	DistroJockey, why?	08:02
bazhang	a7p: hardy discussion is in #ubuntu+1 thanks	08:02
Ruson	ok thanks :>	08:02
a7p	bazhang, thx	08:02
bazhang	illabled: just a sec; that was the t30 thinkpad?	08:03
DistroJockey	GEIS: well, I can't say what will happen when you delete it. And once it's gone, it's gone	08:03
illabled	yep	08:03
illabled	2366	08:03
illabled	thx	08:03
sap	Oh and i forgot to ask about the home folder backup : shall i create an archive of it or just put the whole folder onto a cd/dvd?	08:03
simtower_	anyone knows if ubuntu supports network roaming	08:03
illabled	yes it does	08:04
DistroJockey	GEIS: Well I just deleted mine, so far so good :)	08:04
illabled	it's under Admin>network	08:04
DistroJockey	GEIS: didn't make a backup either	08:04
illabled	simtower - i see network roaming under system?admin>network	08:04
sap	btw, how to increase the scroll back lines in terminal ? it gets out after some lines.	08:05
Lokii-	!ot	08:05
ubotu	#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!	08:05
simtower_	thanks illabled i will try it	08:05
illabled	sap: go to the Edit>Profile menu in terminal	08:05
simtower_	it broke my connection actually	08:06
illabled	edit the default profile and you'll see the settings	08:06
simtower_	i think it only supports unsecured wifi networks?	08:06
sap	illabled, nice . found the scrollback lines :)	08:06
illabled	default is 500	08:06
illabled	cool	08:06
sap	illabled, so the more i put the lines the more ram will it use? or is it hdd space?	08:07
illabled	simtower - i'm not sure - i can't even use my NIC right now lol	08:07
illabled	i just know there are setting for roaming...	08:07
simtower_	ubuntus idea of roaming is not quite like windows	08:07
illabled	ram i think	08:07
prince_jammys	sap: those lines take up a minuscule amount of space	08:08
simtower_	it won't connect to your networks auotmatically	08:08
simtower_	very annoying	08:08
illabled	no i am installing gutsy on an older thinkpad right now and it won't play nice with the ethernet card - no wireless yet	08:08
DistroJockey	sap: It will be stored on the filesystem somewhere as it is remembered after a reboot	08:09
Vikketorr	How do I make Pidgin join this channel automaticly?	08:09
sap	prince_jammys, hmm.. 500 lines =300 kb ; 2000 lines = 1.2 MB ... and if its Ram then i'll be cautious	08:09
illabled	anyone know where i can find drivers for a Intel 82801CAM (ICH3) PRO/100 VE (LOM) Ethernet Controller (rev 42) and how to manually install them w/o NIC on the machine?	08:09
sap	DistroJockey, ok	08:10
illabled	sap: how much (or little ) ram are you working with?	08:10
prince_jammys	sap: where did those figures come from?	08:10
sap	illabled, 512 mb ..lol	08:11
illabled	lol	08:11
sap	prince_jammys, it says in scrollback options	08:11
prince_jammys	surprising	08:11
tyron	does anyone know how reliable the hardy herron beta is at the moment?	08:12
arooni________	what do i need to add to source.list to allow debian to be updated?	08:12
illabled	i was reading hardy reviews a bit ago and heard good things	08:12
sap	But sometimes when I configure an application then it generates thousands of lines .. so if i set it to a high number it'll gobble up the ram	08:12
illabled	they fixed the resolution bug on install from Gutsy	08:12
illabled	i'm downloading right now to give it a shot myself lol	08:13
illabled	yeah but 2000 lines _1.2MB	08:13
illabled	shouldn't that be enough?	08:13
tyron	i have the live cd im just not sure wheather to upgrade now to fix my sound issues or not	08:14
illabled	set it for 20,000 at 12MB	08:14
kraut	moin	08:14
illabled	you'll still have 500MB left to run on	08:14
illabled	if you do use all 20,000 lines that is	08:14
sap	illabled, no buddy.. when u type ./configure and make and make install it generates thousands of lines and 10000 lines = 7 MB	08:14
illabled	oh!	08:15
sap	lol	08:15
sap	thats also true	08:15
f0rmat	i was wondering how i would go about downloading avi codecs to my computer so i can transfer them to my laptop which doesn't have an internet connection	08:15
f0rmat	?	08:15
illabled	i see than how that could eat up your ram after a bit	08:15
sap	but if it really uses ram instead of hdd then I'd rather increase the scroll limit only when I need to else I'll keep it low for normal use	08:15
illabled	NYONE KNOW WHERE TO GO TO FIND A MANUALLY INSTALLABLE NIC DRVIER FOR Intel 82801CAM (ICH3) PRO/100 VE (LOM) Ethernet Controller (rev 42)	08:16
illabled	oops	08:16
illabled	sorry for the ccaps	08:16
bazhang	illabled: folks seem to be able to wired working on that thinkpad but wireless is a bit more of a chore; apparently it is the orinoco (prism 2.5) which can be problematic--some have gone out and gotten an atheros minipci card as a workaround	08:16
illabled	i don't have a wireless card installed	08:17
illabled	i am looking for a wired driver	08:17
illabled	the wireless is in the mail, lol	08:17
illabled	ethernet is not working	08:17
DistroJockey	f0rmat: sudo apt-get -d <package name> then copy that .deb from /var/cache/apt/archives to the same place on the other PC and then do a sudo apt-get install <packagename>	08:18
illabled	i'm marooned with that thing	08:18
bazhang	there is someone who got it working in dapper on thinkwiki; gutsy might be able to do it but it would obviously be slower	08:18
illabled	on another computer right now	08:18
Breakage	hey, i am interested in installing ubuntu in my windows harddrive via wubi. wubi seems kind of intresting, i already have a dual boot (xp & arch) and was curious on how you startup ubuntu via wubi. will it mess with grub? do i load windows then run ubuntu inside of that?	08:18
bazhang	Breakage: wubi with gutsy?	08:19
Breakage	bazhang: yeah or maybe hardy	08:19
illabled	wubi will inboot it from a livecd or a folder on your pc	08:19
illabled	boot i mean	08:19
sap	hey wow there is an option to put transparent background in terminal .. nice	08:19
f0rmat	DistroJockey: thankyou i wanted to know how that was done but also do you know what the codecs are called? i mean i am juts copying every file out of the archives on my pc to my portable HDD and there arent alot so it isn't to bad	08:19
Breakage	illabled: ah so i can make a iso then boot from cd and it will load ubuntu from the hdd?	08:19
DistroJockey	f0rmat: nope, sorry	08:20
illabled	i think you can bootright from the iso too	08:20
vallhalla81	!wubi	08:20
f0rmat	DistroJockey: thankyou anyway :)	08:20
ubotu	wubi advice here: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=234 and http://wubi.org [file wubi bugs here: https://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug ] (it will be included in hardy 8.04 currently in beta)	08:20
bazhang	http://www.wach-o-witz.de/linux_zeuch/ibm_t30_install/ubuntu_6.06.1/ubuntu_6.06.1.html illabled this is what he did to get it running	08:20
DistroJockey	f0rmat: np, yw	08:20
Breakage	bazhang: cheers	08:20
sap	k I gtg now , thanks all for the help :)	08:21
DistroJockey	f0rmat: may also be worth looking at: man dpkg (might work better)	08:21
f0rmat	:)	08:22
f0rmat	ok	08:22
illabled	thx bazhang	08:22
f0rmat	well i have got to go now but thnx	08:22
f0rmat	:)	08:22
DistroJockey	f0rmat: not tried what I suggested, but I think it should work	08:22
f0rmat	:)	08:22
f0rmat	ok	08:22
bazhang	err probably a dpkg -i to the deb would be better f0rmat	08:22
DistroJockey	f0rmat: k, later	08:22
f0rmat	:)	08:22
f0rmat	thankyou	08:22
DistroJockey	f0rmat: good luck :)	08:22
f0rmat	:)	08:23
bazhang	apt-get will not work in that situation	08:23
f0rmat	got to go anywya my mum is yelling	08:23
f0rmat	:D	08:23
DistroJockey	heh	08:23
* f0rmat is away		08:23
arooni________	does this run one command and then when done, run the other?	08:23
arooni________	root@BigArooni:/backup/source# rm -rf * && /etc/cron.daily/rdiff-backup.sh	08:23
arooni________	\	08:23
DistroJockey	bazhang: you are probably right :)	08:24
bazhang	arooni________: ever think of shortening your nick?	08:24
arooni________	bazhang, trying to mix it up a bit	08:24
illabled	that post was about wireless - it's not an 1802 error	08:25
prince_jammys	arooni________: it runs the second command only if the first succeeds	08:26
illabled	i just have no way to get online with the thing until it has the right drivers for the ethernet card (i don't have a wireless card in it). so i can't apt-get at all. looking for suggestions on workarounds using a soft copy of the driver ; but where to find it? (Intel 82801CAM (ICH3) PRO/100 VE (LOM) Ethernet Controller (rev 42))	08:26
DistroJockey	illabled: You have a driver CD that came with it?	08:27
illabled	with the thinkpad?	08:27
DistroJockey	illabled: yeah	08:27
pusoicafe	hello guys pls help me for my usb webcam won't work on my ubuntu 7.10 any ideas?	08:27
illabled	nope	08:27
illabled	got it barebones	08:27
DistroJockey	illabled: :(	08:27
illabled	is there a way to hijack a windows driver? lenovo has them on their site	08:28
DistroJockey	illabled: and the support - download driver page for it only has Windows drivers?	08:28
prince_jammys	!webcam \| pusoicafe	08:28
ubotu	pusoicafe: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras	08:28
DistroJockey	illabled: yep, ndiswrapper	08:28
illabled	yeah they have only windows	08:28
nathanial	can anyone help me out with ssh and scp?	08:28
DistroJockey	illabled: ndiswrapper may do the job by using the Windows driver	08:29
illabled	how do i use ndiswrapper? the windows driver comes as a self extacting .exe	08:29
DistroJockey	!ndiswrapper	08:29
ubotu	Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs	08:29
nathanial	!ssh	08:29
ubotu	SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/	08:29
DistroJockey	illabled: that .exe may be able to be renamed to .zip and extracted, or if it can't, running it will extract it somewhere usually.	08:30
illabled	ok i'll go give that a shot	08:30
illabled	does it matter which driver i try? win2k vs xp?	08:31
DistroJockey	illabled: if you still have a working Windows with it installed there, you may be able to get the files from it also	08:31
pusoicafe	prince_jimmys: ya there is some output text but it never worked in camorama and kopete all isee is greenscreen	08:31
DistroJockey	illabled: not to sure, but I would go with XP	08:31
illabled	yeah i have 2k and xp both working on a separate partition	08:31
illabled	on the same machine	08:31
prince_jammys	pusoicafe: i have no idea. i thought that link might be useful	08:32
illabled	can it read the fat32 partitions?	08:32
illabled	and grab it from there?	08:32
DistroJockey	illabled: should be able to, yeah	08:32
illabled	how to go about that?	08:33
illabled	i am pretty new to linux	08:33
prince_jammys	illabled: are you trying to install ndiswrapper?	08:33
illabled	not yet - 'sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper' ??	08:34
bazhang	illabled: what does ifconfig show in the terminal	08:34
kmanrox	i just installed ubuntu, it wont let me add new users or groups from the GUI... altho i can sudo su in terminal to root.. any ideas?	08:34
DistroJockey	illabled: sudo mkdir /mnt/wxp && mount /dev/sd?? /mnt/wxp (where /dev/sd?? = your Windows XP device partion)	08:34
illabled	it shows a lot	08:34
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bazhang	kmanrox: you should use sudo not sudo su	08:34
illabled	if i could cut and paste between these two machines i would	08:34
kindofabuzz	sudo passwd -u <user>	08:34
kindofabuzz	i think	08:35
kmanrox	kk will try ty	08:35
bazhang	illabled: does ifconfig show eth0 or only lo	08:35
illabled	shows eth0 and lo	08:36
illabled	but when i hook it up to my LAN i get no connectivity	08:36
vladtzu	I added the line '/dev/sdb1 /home/josh/data ntfs rw,user,exec' to my fstab in an attempt to mount the hard drive that has all my data on it, but after restarting /home/josh/data is empty	08:36
illabled	cannot ping router	08:36
bazhang	illabled: try plugging in a ethernet cable to the box and sudo dhclient eth0	08:36
illabled	cannot ping host	08:36
voxluna	is there any password for root? or must everything be done with sudo?	08:36
kmanrox	im trying to add a new user, whats the command? i just tried the sudoś you recommended	08:36
illabled	ok i'll try that	08:36
bazhang	voxluna: no root by defualt in ubuntu; use sudo	08:37
dgjones	!sudo \| voxluna	08:37
ubotu	voxluna: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.	08:37
[[thufir]]	for java development, install the sun jdk?	08:37
pat5star	jdk = java developers kit	08:37
ogre	Lokii-: this nick isnt regged	08:38
pat5star	so, yes	08:38
kmanrox	adduser command doesnt work like it does in normal *nix	08:38
prince_jammys	vladtzu: try mounting it now with: mount /home/josh/data	08:38
ogre	oops	08:38
kmanrox	how to add new users? GUI doesnt allow either for some reason	08:38
[[thufir]]	pat5star: are there other java things which should be uninstalled first?	08:38
pat5star	useradd?	08:38
kmanrox	thx pat.. plying with that now :)	08:38
voxluna	grr I should not have installed the ubuntu-studio, its kernel is fuxored and it added a LOT of apps	08:39
vladtzu	prince_jammys josh@niggajim:~$ sudo mount /home/josh/data	08:39
vladtzu	NTFS signature is missing.	08:39
vladtzu	Failed to mount '/dev/sdb1': Invalid argument	08:39
vladtzu	The device '/dev/sdb1' doesn't have a valid NTFS.	08:39
vladtzu	Maybe you selected the wrong device? Or the whole disk instead of a	08:39
vladtzu	partition (e.g. /dev/hda, not /dev/hda1)? Or the other way around?	08:39
FloodBot2	vladtzu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.	08:39
vladtzu	josh@niggajim:~$	08:39
prince_jammys	vladtzu: are you sure it's sdb1? check with sudo fdisk -l	08:39
pat5star	jdk is the basic thing you need for straight java programming, it contains javac for compiling and the basic libraries. eventually you'll want other things like ant, and java servers like tomcat	08:40
voxluna	niggajim... surely not.	08:40
vladtzu	prince_jammys Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System	08:40
vladtzu	/dev/sdb1 1 155127 78183976+ 7 HPFS/NTFS	08:40
voxluna	ick, wubi not working on the laptop either.	08:40
deebo	(dont install any java tools from packages, they suck, some r-tard has made the packages :P)	08:40
pat5star	ant being similar to cvs	08:40
illabled	ok the result seems to be 'bound to 192.168,2,2 - - renewal in 1523 secnds that seems to be mysubnet it reached	08:40
deebo	.. umm	08:40
pat5star	oops, not cvs, i meant make	08:40
deebo	ant is similiar to make :)	08:40
illabled	but i can't get online or updatet	08:41
[[thufir]]	my concern with installing java is getting the JAVA_HOME environment variable configured correctly (for a ruby gem) is there a special trick? aside from editing .bashrc	08:41
bazhang	illabled: now try to browse or ping	08:41
knightWse	morning everyone	08:41
vallhalla81	knightWse: morning	08:41
pat5star	just set it by doing export JAVA_HOME=/path/to/your/jdk	08:41
[[thufir]]	deebo: what are you talking about? would you elaborate?	08:41
illabled	damn !!	08:41
[[thufir]]	pat5star: ok	08:41
bazhang	illabled at least we know you dont need drivers; the rest will be much easier	08:42
illabled	it is working now!!	08:42
deebo	[[thufir]]: regarding?	08:42
illabled	ping anyways	08:42
[[thufir]]	deebo: (dont install any java tools from packages, they suck, some r-tard has made the packages :P)	08:42
sjovan	hey, any of you know what the opera plugin-path chould be?	08:42
illabled	i am probably going to feel stupid...	08:42
deebo	yes, you can install jdk from packages, but dont install anything else from packages, youll just run into troubles	08:42
kmanrox	ok, i added new user.. but i cannot edit it via the GUI. perhaps because im just a úser as well? and not root? should i relogin as root?	08:42
deebo	the packages are shit to put it simple	08:42
bazhang	illabled: dont think about it; just have to get online	08:43
DistroJockey	vladtzu: you tried?: sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /home/josh/data	08:43
jussi01	!ohmy \| deebo	08:43
ubotu	deebo: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.	08:43
bazhang	deebo stop with the language	08:43
pat5star	the jdk package I find ok, but tomcat I prefer to install myself	08:43
[[thufir]]	netbeans?	08:43
amorphous	I'm wanting to set up a server to use as a central storage place for files from various locations around town. Is samba the best thing to use? (some of them will be windows boxs :(	08:43
pat5star	kmanrox: yes	08:43
deebo	yes the jdk's are fine, just aslong as you remove GCJ etc first	08:43
deebo	and update-alternatives	08:43
deebo	but tomcat, eclipse, etc packages are bad for your mental health	08:44
illabled	okay it's online now...	08:44
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[[thufir]]	aha!	08:44
bazhang	illabled: it works?	08:44
kmanrox	pat5star: would it behoove me to just run my account as root, and not the user i setup with install?	08:44
illabled	i must have made some silly error before	08:44
pat5star	deebo is right, i don't use GCJ, suns is better if you agree to their license that demands your first born child :P	08:44
[[thufir]]	aside from removing GCJ, what else should I remove?	08:44
vladtzu	DistroJockey Yes I did. But I tried the exact same thing to another folder I made and it worked for some reason. o.O	08:44
illabled	yep	08:44
dns53	well icetea is there	08:44
illabled	online now	08:44
bazhang	congrats illabled ;]	08:44
DistroJockey	vladtzu: hmm	08:45
pat5star	kmanrox: I would be going against all linux principals if I said yes, lol! Use sudo to make the changes you need, or temp login as root, do what you need, then exit back to regular user	08:45
illabled	mebbe i had a bad plug earlier - or i just didn't know whati was doing, lol	08:45
illabled	:)	08:45
kmanrox	pat5star: i feel ya. thx :)	08:45
vladtzu	DistroJockey Having it mounted to this folder is just fine with me, and I'm a little too tired to try adn figure out why right now XD But, what should I add to my fstab to make it do that automatically for now on?	08:45
kmanrox	youŕe a rockstar	08:45
bazhang	illabled: time to get some updates ;]	08:45
illabled	thanks everyone!!	08:45
DistroJockey	vladtzu: you created /home/josh/data first?	08:45
illabled	indeed	08:45
vladtzu	DistroJockey Yep	08:46
bazhang	no worries illabled ;]	08:46
illabled	get my ultranav working!	08:46
perfector	does any1 know of a good openbox menu editor gui?	08:46
deebo	hey any release date for 8.04 TLS	08:46
voxluna	aha, finally.	08:46
prince_jammys	vladtzu: that error message is strange. the fstab line looks fine. you could try changing ntfs to ntfs-3g	08:47
DistroJockey	vladtzu: ahh, k. Sorry, fstab is not something I have looked into much, so hopefully someone else can help there.	08:47
bazhang	#ubuntu+1 for that deebo	08:47
prince_jammys	vladtzu: you could also try changing the mount options to "defaults", just to test what's going on	08:47
vladtzu	prince_jammys Aye sir, I'll try that	08:47
kmanrox	pat5star: its not accepting my password, altho i can sudo from my úser'account ... but not straight up login as ubuntu username ŕoot'	08:48
voxluna	when I've got a dual boot system and I see my other NTFS partitions, I can read them but... is it safe now to write to them?	08:48
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illabled	okay more questions now	08:48
vladtzu	I got a feeling this is one of those "the problem lies between the keyboard and the chair" sorta things. I waited till I'm about to crash to mess with this. haha	08:48
pat5star	kmanrox: sudo su	08:48
cpk1	kmanrox: thats because you need to set the root password	08:48
pat5star	kmanrox: that will give you root	08:48
illabled	update manager and apt-get are both telling me i am up to date	08:48
illabled	this can not be	08:49
prince_jammys	vladtzu: i'm in that state right now, so i could be missing something	08:49
illabled	i just installed from an old LiveCD tonight	08:49
pat5star	kmanrox: then when your root, type passwd and set a root password	08:49
illabled	graphics are real laggy	08:49
pat5star	kmanrox: but I didn't tell you that, orthodox ubuntu users would call that sacrilege :)	08:50
illabled	anybody know where to get a ood driver for a radon 7500 fire gl mobility card?	08:50
cpk1	illabled: you probably need to install the driver for your video card	08:50
kmanrox	pat5star: i just did, then 'Switch user ' and used root as username, and my password i set in terminal... still rejected me :(	08:50
illabled	ndiswrapper?	08:50
bazhang	nay	08:50
illabled	with the windows driver?	08:50
cpk1	illabled: no, the wiki describes how to install the driver for ati's	08:51
DistroJockey	voxluna: I'm still a bit unsure about dealing with NTFS. I'd have a backup if you do decide to try. (But you should already have a backup right;))	08:51
vladtzu	prince_jammys Haha I hear ya man. I'm going to add the -3g to the ntfs and change the folder to the one where mounting did work in case its some sort of voodoo working againt that other folder and restart when I feel like really messing with it	08:51
cpk1	!ati \| illabled	08:51
ubotu	illabled: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto	08:51
vladtzu	I appreciate the help fellerz	08:51
prince_jammys	vladtzu: ok	08:51
pat5star	kmanrox: if you press ctrl - alt - f4 and go to a tty login, can you login as root?	08:51
voxluna	DistroJockey, yeah I did make a full bkp before I resized the partition. I had been playing with Wubi but then did the "real" thing.	08:51
DistroJockey	voxluna: ntfs3g is pretty good these days though from what I here	08:52
pat5star	kmanrox: press those 3 at the same time	08:52
bazhang	login as root? a very bad idea	08:52
kmanrox	k sec	08:52
cpk1	kmanrox: you really shouldnt log into an X session as root anyways	08:52
voxluna	DistroJockey, I had heard in the past (in kernel notes, or something) that it wasn't reliable. not sure where exactly.	08:52
bazhang	that would mean irc as root	08:52
voxluna	DistroJockey, ideally I might be able to use my D:\Documents\Thunderbird\ across both platforms, for example	08:52
DistroJockey	voxluna: nod I would so it is fairly reliable, as long as both systems are shut down cleanly	08:53
DistroJockey	voxluna: would say^	08:53
voxluna	I'll just be more vigilant in my DVD backups, I guess	08:53
DistroJockey	voxluna: never hurts :)	08:54
cpk1	they have a disclaimer saying that ntfs write support might cause problems but I think they also say that havent had a reported problem in a very long time	08:54
[[thufir]]	what I did was to search synaptic for "java" and am removing completely all java stuff before installing the sun jdk. this makes sense?	08:54
voxluna	wonder if I could rig this box to do remote bkps onto the server's DLT? ;)	08:54
DistroJockey	voxluna: probably :)	08:54
DistroJockey	voxluna: rsync would be worth a look in that case	08:55
pat5star	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?go=Go&search=thufir: won't hurt...the only 2 things you really need are the jdk for developing, and the jre for things like your browser or any apps that rely on java...worst case is you may need to point anything relying on the jre at the new location, if it's in a diff spot	08:55
[[thufir]]	thanks	08:56
kmanrox	doh	08:56
voxluna	DistroJockey, it'd be nice to get the laptop backed up somehow, it has a lot of user-downloaded music, but it's XP	08:56
anaoum	is it possible to upgrade to hardy without changing my kernel?	08:56
voxluna	I tried Wubi, it blew up on the Acer. ugh.	08:56
kmanrox	jason5star: u around?	08:56
pat5star	kmanrox: what happened?	08:57
dns53	anaoum you keep the old kernel till you remove it	08:57
kmanrox	i just ctrl - alt- f4 and all i got was a million /drivers/____blah blah/yearlink.c unexpected errors	08:57
DistroJockey	voxluna: External USB HDD's are nice. Sorry Wubi didn't work. (not tried that yet)	08:57
anaoum	ahhh, but it will change the default kernel in grub	08:57
anaoum	and i just have to change it back ay?	08:57
kmanrox	same errors i get for a couple seconds when loggin on and signing off	08:57
kindofabuzz	finally!! got chatzilla running on xulrunner	08:58
pat5star	kmanrox: wow, you got some weird stuff going on. That should have just gave you a non gui login screen. Is this a new install?	08:58
kindofabuzz	well i've had it running but finally got it to run as a user instead of root	08:58
dns53	anaoum if you want, i am using an older kernel myself because of wifi	08:58
kmanrox	yes new install	08:58
kmanrox	yesterday	08:58
pat5star	kmanrox: but you can login fine if you are non root?	08:58
voxluna	DistroJockey, yeah that I use on this box, an internal drive that just sits there ready for bkps. only thing is, it is 1) not removeable and 2) runs all the time.	08:59
kmanrox	pat: yes	08:59
kmanrox	jsut cant manipulate the users & groups GUI style	08:59
DistroJockey	voxluna: Western Digital ones I like better than Seagate, due to heat issues (those being the top 2 manufactures)	08:59
voxluna	DistroJockey, I suppose an external is really the fastest though.	08:59
Lhademmor	Hi all.. I've tried out Kubuntu by installing the 'kubuntu-dekstop' from my Ubuntu. However, now I've tried removing it via Synaptic, but there are still several shortuts in the menu that I cant get rid of, f.ex. Adept_manager. How can I remove those?	08:59
kmanrox	unfort i dont know the cmd line style hehe	08:59
DistroJockey	sorry, I got a bit OT :(	08:59
Svenstaro	Lhademmor, if you really need to manually do it, right click your menu and choose edit, or waht its called	09:00
pat5star	kmanrox: but you should be able to alter any users with systemsettings, or whatever the ubuntu control app is called (need help here...i use kubuntu)	09:00
kmanrox	im installing ´systemsettings'righ now :)	09:01
[[thufir]]	I notice that things gnome-utils also are getting uninstalled, though :(	09:01
[[thufir]]	along with the java packages	09:01
pat5star	kmanrox: if you login as normal user, then run systemsettings, in that gui it will ask you for admin password, use your normal username password, and you should be granted rights to change any other user settings	09:01
kmanrox	pat: great thx.. will give it a whirl :)	09:02
pat5star	kmanrox: gl	09:02
kmanrox	in in thailand so systemsettings will be downloading for 1.5 hrs it says lol	09:02
pat5star	kmanrox: wow, that sucks :)	09:02
pat5star	kmanrox: dialup?	09:03
kmanrox	pat5star: amazingly i have my deault repository set to th. youd think it would go faster	09:03
NIKA_	vitha	09:03
kmanrox	pat5star: no 4mbps cable... but only get those speeds on localnet (within thailand) or using a d/l accelerator	09:04
pat5star	kmanrox: hearing things like that only reminds me not to take our access for granted :)	09:04
kmanrox	pat5star: i hear ya.. im american and when i go back to the states and run on a cable, i c*rap myself	09:04
pat5star	kmanrox: lol	09:05
kmanrox	oops my asterisk didnt work out so well heh	09:05
* Svenstaro is happy to be able to download at 1.5mb/s :)		09:05
kindofabuzz	just seeing what this does	09:06
* kmanrox glares at sven		09:06
vallhalla81	***happy to have 25mb/s	09:06
* kmanrox sheds a small tear.		09:06
Svenstaro	vallhalla81, you are on 130mbits?	09:06
kindofabuzz	check	09:06
* cpk1 can easily get 1mB downloads...		09:07
sunbird	hi everyone.	09:07
vallhalla81	sven no i am on 25	09:07
Svenstaro	well you said megaBytes per second	09:07
sunbird	i'm a newbie to ubuntu doing an install on my macbook pro santa rosa.	09:07
voxluna	hmm... "Terminal Server Client" should be able to connect to another box I have VNC running on. Right?	09:07
DistroJockey	Svenstaro: I'm on a 1.5Mb/s plan also, get 159KB/s average	09:07
sunbird	the wiki tutorial /walkthru works great.	09:07
sunbird	but i want to do full drive encryption and only have the live cd downloaded.	09:08
kindofabuzz	test	09:08
kmanrox	sunbird: whats the url to this wiki?	09:08
cpk1	fail	09:08
sunbird	one minute.	09:08
Svenstaro	been doing computing since I was a little kid, and I still cant remember if MB/s or Mb/s is megabits	09:08
cpk1	mB is mega bytes	09:08
DistroJockey	Svenstaro: hehe	09:08
kindofabuzz	!ot \| all	09:08
voxluna	Svenstaro, how about MiB? ;)	09:08
ubotu	all: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!	09:08
Linux_Fresher	I have an issue .. 80 GB HD, 10 gb for ubuntu, 70 ntfs windows, now, another 40 gb hd which has fat 32 and 2 partitions of 20 gb each.. both full of movies.. i cant seem to access those 2 hard drives .. they get mounted, but they keep saying permission denied when i try to click on those icons, also, the right click RIGHTS menu is not there	09:08
sunbird	kmanrox: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro	09:08
kindofabuzz	lol	09:08
DistroJockey	Svenstaro: small b = bits, big B = Bytes :)	09:09
Vikketorr	How do i save a bash command to a shourtcut or a file ?	09:09
kmanrox	sunbird: thx	09:09
pat5star	Svenstaro: I think for most people nowadays, mb in any case only means megabyte :)	09:09
Svenstaro	thanks :P	09:09
Conrad_	speak spanish in this channel ?	09:09
sunbird	does anyone know if i can do full drive encryption from the live cd?	09:09
sunbird	or do i have to download the alternate?	09:09
simtower_	Mb - bit MB byte	09:09
Svenstaro	im on 16mb/s then :P	09:09
sunbird	(on a slow connection, so i'm hoping i can use the live)	09:09
prince_jammys	voxluna: MiB i think the old MB (1024 K). vs 1000 K	09:09
dns53	you need the alternative	09:09
DistroJockey	and a nibble = 4 bits :)	09:09
simtower_	MiB mebibyte etc	09:09
voxluna	Svenstaro, IIRC Mb is bits, MB is bytes.	09:09
cpk1	Linux_Fresher: if you want you can open them all as root	09:09
Vikketorr	How do i save a bash command to a shourtcut or a file ?	09:10
Linux_Fresher	cpk1, currently i am root, though its bad idea to chat as one	09:10
cpk1	Linux_Fresher: I'm sure there is some way to mount it with more friendly permissions but I dont know how off the top of my head	09:10
Svenstaro	sunbird, you are on gutsy and want to install a fully encrypted system from the live cd?	09:10
Linux_Fresher	cpk1, i can copy paste the fstab if u want	09:10
pat5star	Vikketorr: just put the command in a txt file	09:10
Linux_Fresher	or paste bin lsmod, dmesg too	09:10
dns53	Vikketorr save it to a text file and make it executable	09:10
voxluna	prince_jammys, yes, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mebibyte. which I can understand, but it all seems so ridiculous	09:11
sunbird	svenstaro: yes.	09:11
pen	I have a question about dd	09:11
Linux_Fresher	cpk1, do u want me to do it ?	09:11
sunbird	svenstaro: gutsy x64	09:11
kmanrox	youŕe gonna die when you see t he traceroute from here in bangkok, to the th.archive.ubunto.com server lol	09:11
pen	I used dd to copy partition, but I did it twice by accident so I end up with twice the size of the data	09:11
prince_jammys	voxluna: i think it's because hardware vendors started using 1000 to mean megabyte (and save themselves a few bytes)	09:12
Svenstaro	sunbird, I'm positive you can do that, I just don't know how im afrarid	09:12
pen	but the problem is that I don't see duplicates in the folders	09:12
kmanrox	goes thru california, then to new york, then to london lolol	09:12
pen	how can I solve this?	09:12
kmanrox	2 ms ae-26-52.car2.London2.Level3.net (4.68.117.48) 662.023 ms	09:12
pat5star	kmanrox: lol, your data travels the world before you get it :)	09:12
Svenstaro	pen, dd appends to the file afaik	09:12
kmanrox	that is unbelievable lol	09:13
Svenstaro	pen, you have just created a file containg two times your fs :)	09:13
kindofabuzz	kmanrox: try opendns	09:13
dns53	would split work?	09:13
pen	Svenstaro: so how should i do now to fix it?	09:13
kmanrox	kindofabuzz: checking into that	09:13
Svenstaro	pen, read up on "split"	09:14
kindofabuzz	kmanrox: opendns.com	09:14
cpk1	Linux_Fresher: you need to set uid= gid= and umask= so your user can open and read and execute stuff on the drive	09:14
vallhalla81	!split	09:14
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about split - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	09:14
pen	Svenstaro: but I only want my files, if I split how would it reduce the volume?	09:14
Svenstaro	pen, as far as I have understood, you just copied your FS two times into the same file using dd, this made it grow twice as big, right?	09:15
j3kyll	i just installed amarok, i have the codec packages for mp3...mp4 downloaded and installed, has worked on rythmbox... why not amaroK?	09:15
pen	Svenstaro: yes, I think so	09:16
pen	Svenstaro: but the files are still one, not like filename and filename#	09:16
pen	Svenstaro: do you mean that dd actually merge the files?	09:16
kmanrox	jason5star: my system is downloading tons of KDE libs that support ¨systemsettings¨ hehe	09:16
Svenstaro	pen, yes	09:16
pen	Svenstaro: then how can I safely split them?	09:17
knightwise	hello	09:17
Svenstaro	pen, your best bet is to cut it directly in the middle bitwise and try to mount one of them as your file system	09:17
rose	hi	09:17
kmanrox	im on 8.04	09:17
pen	Svenstaro: and delete the junk	09:17
knightwise	is anybody using VMware server on a ubuntu server ?	09:17
bullgard4	What does the filename extension .desktop mean? For example: ~/.config/autostart/epiphany.desktop	09:17
knightwise	i get an error he cannot find a file	09:17
knightwise	he says he cannot find the following library : libXtst.so.6	09:18
pat5star	kmanrox: systemsettings might be the kde version...I can't remeber what the gnome one was called...that might have been a mistake telling you to use that :(	09:18
pen	Svenstaro: how to do that?	09:18
j3kyll	i just installed amarok, i have the codec packages for mp3...mp4 downloaded and installed, has worked on rythmbox... why not amaroK?	09:18
pat5star	kmanrox: in the end, they both do the same thing, except you'll have all those kde libraries installed too	09:18
kmanrox	pat: no worries man	09:19
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Svenstaro	pen, I havent ever tried it but you could do a "split -C halfofthebiteshere /where/file/goes"	09:19
kmanrox	my mommy always told me that libraries are good.. shrug	09:19
morghanphoenix	getting a lot of shared library errors, and all the libraries it's looking for are in /lib how do I fix this?	09:19
Svenstaro	pen how big is your big file?	09:20
pen	Svenstaro: I have no idea	09:20
pat5star	kmanrox: lol, well personally I always have both kde and gnome libraries installed, because there is cool apps for both that I want anyways	09:20
kmanrox	wonder if thereś such a thing as an RSS feed software that posts IRC channels conversations	09:20
Svenstaro	pen look it up :)	09:20
tyron	hi getting error when open ntfs volume on 8.04 You are not privileged to mount the volume 'TOSHIBA SYSTEM VOLUME'. it is listed in the places menu. how do i add myself	09:20
pen	Svenstaro: I don't even know what it is	09:20
Svenstaro	?	09:20
pen	Svenstaro: for more detail	09:21
Svenstaro	ls -lha	09:21
pen	Svenstaro: I use dd to copy my distro	09:21
pen	Svenstaro: from external to internal	09:21
Svenstaro	pen, well, cd into the directory your copied it into and ls -lha and tell me the bitsize	09:21
josh	how do i make setserial automatically configure when i boot up	09:22
pen	Svenstaro: I copy the whole partition, can I just pick one?	09:22
Svenstaro	pen, pick one what?	09:22
pen	Svenstaro: like /?	09:22
servettas	ImportError: No module named japanese	09:22
servettas	what is this?	09:22
servettas	can anyone help me pls ?	09:22
Svenstaro	pen ? I'm a bit clueless what you wann do.	09:23
pen	I want to reduce the size	09:23
Svenstaro	pen, Yes	09:23
morghanphoenix	does /lib need to be in the $PATH?	09:23
zippea	Hello, I was wondering if anyone could help me with a dual boot problem I've been having	09:23
unop	morghanphoenix, no	09:24
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Svenstaro	pen, Look, using dd you basically created an image of your partiton and when you ran it the second time this image got appended another time	09:24
Svenstaro	pen, but like this it is not usable	09:24
pat5star	pen: when you ran dd, what is the file location that you copied to?	09:24
morghanphoenix	Didn't think so, looks like that is only for executables, but how do I make it see all my libraries it's swearing to me aren't there	09:24
unop	morghanphoenix, you need to configure and use ld -- man ld	09:25
pen	this is what I use dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/sda conv=noerror,sync bs=4k	09:25
servettas	ImportError: No module named japanese	09:25
servettas	what is this?	09:25
servettas	can anyone help me pls ?	09:25
pen	Svenstaro: ok	09:25
pen	pat5star: I copy to sda5	09:25
unop	servettas, where are you getting this?	09:25
pat5star	pen: ok, so Svenstaro wants to know what the output of ls -lh /dev/sda is	09:26
pen	pat5star: oh	09:26
pen	pat5star: ok	09:26
bullgard4	What does the filename extension .desktop mean? For example: ~/.config/autostart/ includes 3 files: epiphany.desktop, gnome-terminal.desktop, nm-applet.desktop. All 3 are not listed on my computer's desktop.	09:26
Svenstaro	pen I got you, you should probably format /dev/sda and just run your dd again, makes it easiest	09:26
dns53	bullgard4 .desktop are like shortcuts	09:26
pen	Svenstaro: I see, you mean do it again?	09:26
pen	Svenstaro: that's easy	09:26
Svenstaro	pen, yes, but format /dev/sda first	09:27
servettas	unop: when i installing mailman	09:27
servettas	File "/usr/local/mailman/bin/paths.py", line 56, in <module> import japaneseImportError: No module named japanesemake: *** [update] Error 1	09:27
pen	Svenstaro: can I just create a parititon?	09:27
pen	Svenstaro: or empty space?	09:27
josh	is there a setserial guru in here?	09:27
pen	Svenstaro: which one would work?	09:27
bullgard4	dns53: And what is the proper name for a file having the extension '.desktop'?	09:27
gatestone	Thinkpad z60m and Gutsy: Fn F7 sometimes switches to ext monitor (projector), sometimes not. Only 1280x800 works, and badly. Any hints?	09:27
morghanphoenix	wow, ld has one hell of a big man page	09:27
Svenstaro	pen do you know how to use gparted? you would choose ext3 as the partition	09:27
gatestone	My Thinkpad uses Intel 915GM chip.	09:28
j3kyll	i just installed amarok, i have the codec packages for mp3...mp4 downloaded and installed, has worked on rythmbox... why not amaroK?	09:28
unop	bullgard4, they are freedesktop.org files - see http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/latest/	09:28
pen	Svenstaro: but the source partition has different file system format	09:28
lgolebio	Hi all, after some updates my ubu behaves very strange, first of all it boots up very slow, and I figured it out that it is because of network	09:28
dns53	bullgard4 it is a menu entry, in any freedesktop environment it will examine the name , the icon,	09:28
pen	Svenstaro: dd actually copy the format too	09:28
unop	bullgard4, .desktop is the proper extension	09:28
lgolebio	but when I type "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart" it shows "cannot fork"	09:28
dns53	bullgard4 open one in a text editor, there can be things like localised names for things etc	09:29
pen	Svenstaro: the source partition has a different format than the partition I create for it	09:29
lgolebio	coul anybody help me with that ?	09:29
Svenstaro	pen, uhm yes, know I finally got to know what you mean with all this, you didnt do an image, you did an actual direct copy which im unsure about if it would work on your external	09:29
DistroJockey	pen: Svenstaro: In +1 I mentioned gparted is probably the way to go	09:29
anaoum	ok strange problem - i just upgraded to hardy, and if i try log in as root, it doesnt let me type a password - it just tells me login failed. if i try other usernames it asks for a password :S	09:29
anaoum	http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/61111/	09:29
unop	!sudo \| DistroJockey	09:29
ubotu	DistroJockey: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.	09:29
dns53	hardy is in the channel #ubuntu+1	09:29
unop	!root \| DistroJockey	09:29
ubotu	DistroJockey: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo	09:29
anaoum	ssh with root works fine	09:30
Svenstaro	pen, format it with the same FS you have for the source file FS and then run your dd command	09:30
Svenstaro	also who is the matrix geek that programmed ubotu	09:30
pen	Svenstaro: ok	09:30
anaoum	i have a root password, it works via ssh, just not from the local terminal long in	09:30
servettas	ImportError: No module named japanese	09:30
servettas	what is this?	09:30
servettas	can anyone help me pls ?	09:30
illabled	how to configure pigin in Ubunto for IRC?	09:31
unop	anaoum, thats probably the way you've got GDM configured to stop root logins at the console	09:31
illabled	woah spelling!	09:31
j3kyll	illabled: how do you want to configure it?	09:31
illabled	yes	09:31
anaoum	unop: i dont even have gdm installed	09:31
anaoum	im running server	09:32
illabled	pidgin	09:32
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unop	anaoum, ok then -- s/gdm/login/	09:32
illabled	anyone here using pidgin?	09:32
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j3kyll	illabled : yes i am ill walk you through it	09:32
illabled	or rather, what is the popular choce of IRC clients for ubuntu?	09:32
morghanphoenix	Yes, many more protocols than kopete	09:33
anaoum	unop: huh	09:33
illabled	ok	09:33
illabled	ty j3kyll	09:33
Thirsteh	illabled, xchat and irssi	09:33
unop	anaoum, login is to servers as gdm is to desktops	09:33
Thirsteh	xchat is graphical, irssi is terminal	09:33
morghanphoenix	, if Kopete ever catches up I'll be glad to drop pidgin, but for now it's what I'm running	09:33
j3kyll	illabled : start out by opening the program and going to "accounts" then add acount	09:33
illabled	done	09:33
anaoum	unop: so what should i do to enable local root login?	09:34
illabled	it shows my gtalk contacts online so that should be set, right?\	09:34
dns53	anaoum can you login as a user then login as root?	09:34
anaoum	yep	09:34
kmanrox	jason5star: u still around?	09:34
anaoum	just via su -	09:34
j3kyll	illabled : correct	09:34
illabled	ok	09:34
DistroJockey	unop: !sudo \| DistroJockey ??	09:34
j3kyll	illabled : but what irc connection do you want to add?	09:34
dns53	anaoum i think they changed things with hardy adding selinux or app armor, not sure what one	09:35
illabled	this one	09:35
unop	!root \| DistroJockey (see the post below from ubotu)	09:35
ubotu	DistroJockey (see the post below from ubotu): Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo	09:35
illabled	the thing that gets me i think is when it asks for a passwd	09:35
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DistroJockey	unop: and this was directed at me why?	09:36
pat5star	kmanrox: ya	09:36
j3kyll	illabled : try leaving the password blank, just use username and alias plus of course your server . "irc.freenode.net"	09:36
kmanrox	pat/jason sounds the same kinda, no? ;)	09:36
illabled	i am using colloquy in osx right now but want to uhave IRC running on the Ubuntu machine	09:36
pat5star	kmanrox: no, but it's better than other names I've been called :)	09:36
kmanrox	haha	09:36
j3kyll	illabled : try leaving the password blank, just use username and alias plus of course your server . "irc.freenode.net" have you done this?	09:37
unop	DistroJockey, my bad, i thought it was you who asked why you couldnt logon as root ..	09:37
DistroJockey	unop: np :)	09:37
windo_	cinta	09:38
xeonza999	...	09:38
j3kyll	illabled : are you there?	09:38
xeonza999	มีคนไทยใหม	09:38
cpk1	anaoum: why do you want to start a session as root anyways?	09:38
illabled	ok it shows in the chat's list but i can't seem to connect	09:39
illabled	yep i'm here	09:40
illabled	no luck	09:40
illabled	it shows the chat contact but no action on connect	09:40
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j3kyll	illabled : so you said it is showing up in your chat group? but you can't connect?	09:40
illabled	yes	09:40
j3kyll	illabled : if you've made sure you have the correct server and channel it should be good... hmm	09:41
illabled	#ubuntu or just ubuntu?	09:41
illabled	i used #ubuntu	09:42
illabled	and irc.freenode.net	09:42
j3kyll	illabled : that one is correct	09:42
j3kyll	illabled : did you leave the password blank like i suggested?	09:42
illabled	yes	09:42
Pilchard	hi there	09:42
Pilchard	can i ask for some help here	09:42
illabled	maybe i will try Xchat	09:43
weltall	does anyone know if it's possible to enable proxy support on an ssh server and use something like an user permission list to check if allowing or not this?	09:43
kmanrox	yes Pilchard, just ask	09:43
Pilchard	i just installed ati driver using https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI <--- this instructions	09:43
Pilchard	but now i cant install wine	09:43
Pilchard	im using ubuntu 6.06	09:44
Pilchard	oo;	09:44
Pilchard	im new to ubuntu	09:44
huy	pilchard, why dont' you get 7.10	09:44
Pilchard	i installed it yesterday but there wasnt driver for my video	09:45
Pilchard	t.t	09:45
Pilchard	thats why i installed 6.06 today	09:45
Pilchard	xD	09:45
illabled	ok now i can't seem to find xchat for ubuntu	09:47
j3kyll	illabled : while setting up the new irc account were there any other settings you were unsure of?	09:47
illabled	do need to complie from source?	09:47
msingh	is there a good automatic way to check if the network is down, and if so, bring it up again?	09:47
unop	illabled, just run this command -- sudo aptitude install xchat	09:47
illabled	ah	09:48
illabled	not apt-get?	09:48
illabled	ok	09:48
Starnestommy	apt-get also works	09:48
unop	illabled, you can use apt-get there	09:48
kmanrox	pat5star: got it figure out.. silly oversight on my part	09:48
huy	any one know the directory to xorg.conf?	09:48
prince_jammys	huy: /etc/X11	09:48
Starnestommy	huy: /etc/X11/xorg.conf	09:48
Pilchard	dudes pls help me	09:48
Pilchard	cant install wien	09:49
huy	thanks!!!!	09:49
Pilchard	wine*	09:49
DistroJockey	msingh: ifconfig will list active interfaces, ifup will bring an interface up	09:49
unop	msingh, you can't bring a network up if it goes down -- but you can bring a network interface up if it was not already brought up? which is it?	09:49
Starnestommy	Pilchard: how are you trying to install it and what error are you getting?	09:49
DistroJockey	msingh: ifup eth0 for example	09:49
Pilchard	sudo apt-get install wine	09:49
pat5star	kmanrox: what was it?	09:49
Pilchard	o_O	09:49
Pilchard	wine: creating configuration directory '/home/george/.wine'...	09:50
Pilchard	Could not load Mozilla. HTML rendering will be disabled.	09:50
Pilchard	[fglrx] API ERROR: could not register entrypoint for SelectTextureSGIS	09:50
Pilchard	and so and so.	09:50
Pilchard	6279062 pages	09:50
FloodBot2	Pilchard: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.	09:50
DistroJockey	unop: sound about right?	09:50
j3kyll	how do i go about install assaultcube from tar.bz2?	09:50
huy	anyone here has problem with firefox crashing while playing flash?	09:50
illabled	tells me 0 packages upgraded 0 newly installed 0 to remove 0 not upgraded	09:50
unop	DistroJockey, sorry?	09:50
teo-off	huy, i have the same problem but not always :S	09:50
unop	illabled, type `xchat` at the command line -- what happens?	09:51
danand	huy - yes.	09:51
pat5star	j3kyll: never heard of it, but i imagine you have to unpack it: tar xjvf assaultcube.tar.bz2 or whatever it's name is	09:51
huy	teo-off, it's so annoying. they say to change depth in the xorg.config from 16 to 24	09:51
DistroJockey	unop: sorry, was just checking I was on the right track with ifconfig and ifup eth0	09:52
illabled	command not found	09:52
teo-off	huy, i tried that but same problem again.. i know it's annoying	09:52
Pilchard	someone help me pls I cant install wine (API ERROR : could not register entrypoint)	09:52
j3kyll	pat5star : what do i do after unpacking?	09:52
unop	DistroJockey, ohh right, yea, yea -- but i dunno how one would bring up a network that has gone down tho :)	09:53
huy	unop, hey, thanks for your help last night	09:53
unop	huy, hmm, was that the broadcom issue?	09:53
DistroJockey	unop: nods well, ifup may do it	09:53
huy	unop, yeah. i found the solution, so simple	09:53
pat5star	j3kyll: you should have a directory, maybe named assaultcube, cd into it, you'll probably find an install script or at the very least a README telling you what to do	09:53
unop	DistroJockey, but ifup only works on network interfaces .. not entire networks, see the subtle difference :)	09:54
unop	huy, cool, what was it?	09:54
j3kyll	pat5star k thanks	09:54
DistroJockey	unop: Ahh, yep :)	09:54
pat5star	j3kyll: yw	09:54
Pilchard	I installed ati card driver and now i cant install wine	09:54
Pilchard	any help ?	09:54
huy	unop, acpi=off wouldn't bind ndiswrapper and its driver with irq0. i had to change boot parameter	09:54
teo-off	Pilchard, try this - http://fedoranews.org/cms/node/1014 and this to get informed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/47794	09:54
HSorgYves	morning	09:54
DistroJockey	unop: I'm taking too many things for granted lately :(	09:55
unop	huy, nice, will try and remember that :)	09:55
HSorgYves	why can't i access this file (-rwsr-x--- 1 root www-data 10244 2008-01-27 19:19 suexec) when I am in the www-data group?	09:55
DistroJockey	unop: on the plus side, I'm right most of the time :)	09:55
danand	j3kyll - usual steps are 1. ./configure 2. make 3. sudo make install. Obviously cd into the assault cube dir first. Also read any README files or install instructions in the dir	09:55
chi11y	If I want to try KDE4 on my ubuntu desktop, is the only way to go hard and install kde?	09:55
chi11y	*hardy	09:55
unop	HSorgYves, because the group www-data does not own the file	09:55
j3kyll	pat5star :)	09:55
HSorgYves	unop: but it has r-x on it, what do I overlook?	09:56
chi11y	or maybe even kubuntu-desktop just to bloat it up even more x)	09:56
spikeb	chi11y, no, you can use the instructions here: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.2.php	09:56
illabled	running the command 'xchat' results in c'commanf not found'	09:56
unop	HSorgYves, forget the permissions -- look at the ownership	09:56
chi11y	spikeb, okey, great, thanx	09:56
Starnestommy	illabled: is the package	09:56
Starnestommy	'xchat' installed?	09:56
illabled	don't think so - how to get it?	09:57
illabled	tried aptitude	09:57
Starnestommy	illabled: sudo apt-get install xchat	09:57
unop	illabled, i think you might need to enable all the ubuntu standard repositories and try installing it again	09:57
illabled	'sudo aptitude install xchat' resulted in nothing	09:57
HSorgYves	unop: it is owned by root; but other files can be accessed by groups why not this one?	09:57
illabled	yeah i just installed and didn't get any updates at all	09:58
illabled	that was wieird	09:58
illabled	how do i enable them?	09:58
danand	illabled - did you have a net connection up when you installed?	09:58
swam	Anyone want to explain to me why my compiz works perfecty, except for the animation plugin?	09:58
j3kyll	pat5star : i couldn't find any configure or make commands, all i have is an ***.sh file which doesn't appear to do anything at the moment. im gonna check the readme. :\	09:58
illabled	nope but tried again after i got the connection up	09:59
illabled	how to enable the repositories?	09:59
unop	HSorgYves, see it's like this -- the group root and the user www-data own the file .. but the permissions are 4750 .. now your user is a member of the www-data group, but that group has no read permissions on the file, so how do you expect to be able to access it?	09:59
tristano	hello all. i need to know my dhcp server address in order to using to configure properly another o.s., someone can help me? thanks	10:00
DistroJockey	illabled: System - Administration - Software Sources (tick all , except maybe sources)	10:00
danand	illabled - you'll probably find the install has disabled all the entries in your /etc/apt/sources.list file ie disabled all your repositories. Can you pastebin the file	10:00
illabled	ok cool thx	10:00
chenbo	aaa	10:01
illabled	can;t paste anything from that machine lol	10:01
HSorgYves	unop: permissions are --5-, why doesn't the group have read permission then? 5 = r + x???	10:01
illabled	not using it in IRC at the mo	10:01
pat5star	j3kyll: read and info or README files first, but likely you just have to type ./***.sh to execute the program	10:01
illabled	that's what i'm trying to solve lol	10:01
illabled	a lot of catch 22s here tonight	10:01
unop	HSorgYves, either change the ownership of the file to make the group www-data the owner, or open change permissions so the world can read it .. sudo chown www-data.www-data file or sudo chmod 4755 file	10:01
unop	HSorgYves, which group owns that file? and you should answer your question yourself :)	10:02
pat5star	tristano: what is your computers address?	10:02
HSorgYves	unop: i know the workarounds... group? root owns the file	10:02
swam	Anyone want to help me with the animation plugin for compiz?	10:02
j3kyll	pat5star : ... i get this error : .//bin_unix/linux_client: error while loading shared libraries: libSDL_mixer-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory	10:02
tristano	pat5star, what?	10:02
pat5star	tristano: if your on linux: type ifconfig	10:02
unop	HSorgYves, right root owns the file, is your user a member of root?	10:03
tristano	pat5star, already done	10:03
HSorgYves	unop: the user root owns the file not the group or am i completely wrong here?	10:03
gnufied	anyone is using dvtm here?	10:03
unop	HSorgYves, i think you need to read the output of ls -l file more carefully -- www-data is the user that owns it	10:03
pat5star	j3kyll: sounds like you're missing some files you need for that program then	10:04
pat5star	j3kyll: or you have the files, but they aren't in the expected location	10:04
j3kyll	pat5star : ugh : \ okay	10:04
tristano	pat5star, inet addr: 1.237.49.x bcast: 1.237.55.255 mask: 255.255.248.0	10:04
zoidberg_	hey guys is there a nice Adobe Illustrator like application for ubunut....i'm looking for something that I can draw diagrams with...	10:04
zoidberg_	?	10:04
j3kyll	pat5star : im gonna try going to the programs irc channel i just found ... if i don't come back it worked lol..	10:05
unop	zoidberg_, errm, have a look at dia	10:05
jimqode	zoidberg_, dia & inkscape	10:05
danand	illabled - uh oh :) You should be able to edit the file by hand - get rid of those # Auto disabled comments and enable the repositories you want by removing the # from the front of the line. Other wise goto System -> Admin -> Software Sources and enable the repositories from there. Be aware though that this might make your /etc/apt/sources.list file a bit of a mess ie duplicate entries etc. You can hand edit after to clean up though	10:05
pat5star	j3kyll: ok, gl	10:05
tristano	zoidberg_, inkscape	10:05
dinamizador	hello	10:05
j3kyll	pat5star : ty	10:05
dinamizador	spain	10:05
pat5star	tristano: that ip address isn't exactly right, the inet address is what we need	10:05
swam	The animation plugin for my compiz wont enable, any ideas?	10:05
dinamizador	hello	10:05
pat5star	tristano: it should be something like: 192.168.100.100	10:06
ai3gtmc	hi	10:06
tristano	pat5star, i haven't an usable external IP address	10:06
ai3gtmc	is there a mp3 to wma converter for ubuntu?	10:06
illabled	ok i am getting updates!!	10:06
illabled	now to install xchat!	10:06
tristano	pat5star, 1.237.49.xxx is my address	10:06
pat5star	tristano: I'm not trying to find your external ip address, I'm going to guess what your dhcp server address is based upon your computers address	10:07
illabled	and login with the thinkpad!	10:07
swam	mp3 to wma? do you mean wma to mp3?	10:07
ai3gtmc	no	10:07
ai3gtmc	mp3 to wma	10:07
swam	weird	10:07
spikeb	black	10:07
illabled	sos i can ask more questions :)	10:07
unop	ai3gtmc, ffmpeg ought to be able to do it	10:07
jimqode	what is wma good for?	10:07
spikeb	er, bleck.	10:07
ai3gtmc	u need to compress..	10:07
* jimqode belches at the thought of wma format		10:07
spikeb	jimat, nothing, but some portable players are stuck with it	10:07
swam	some portable players can have linux put on them :D	10:07
tristano	pat5star, with windows xp it's easy to know ti (ipconfig /all), but i remember it's completely different by ip address	10:08
jimat	Hi all. Does any body know how to print to a dot matrix printer in text mode. If I use lpr, such as "lpr test.txt", it will print in graphics mode.	10:08
pat5star	tristano: does the computer you're using get it's ip address from your router or whatever you are using for a dhcp server?	10:08
danand	illabled - "sudo apt-get update" then run "sudo apt-get upgrade". You should probably do this before installing xchat	10:08
spikeb	mine uses rockbox at the moment, even if it is a piece of crap	10:08
ai3gtmc	unop, how do i use it?	10:08
pat5star	tristano: ifconfig is the same thing in linux	10:08
unop	danand, upgrade shouldnt be necessary	10:08
vallhalla81	swam: some portable players can have linux put on them? how?	10:08
danand	unop - no?	10:08
unop	ai3gtmc, its a command line too -- ffmpeg -i file.mp3 file.wma	10:09
ai3gtmc	ic ok	10:09
swam	http://www.ipodlinux.org/Main_Page	10:09
tristano	pat5star, but doesn't say me which is my dhcp server address, differently by windows	10:09
ai3gtmc	thx	10:09
Chris\|	in openbox how do i get fbpanel to start automaticly?	10:09
HSorgYves	unop: -rwsr-x--- 1 root www-data <-- root is the user and www-data is the group isn't it?	10:09
cens0red	why does this animal have fangs? http://www.flickr.com/photos/pengo-au/52381420/	10:09
unop	danand, no if all he wants it to install xchat	10:09
ai3gtmc	make	10:09
ai3gtmc	oops wrong window lol	10:09
unop	HSorgYves, other way around	10:09
vallhalla81	swam: thabk you	10:09
tristano	pat5star, i use linux for 5 years, but it's the first time that i have this trouble	10:09
swam	is the animation plugin currently working f