[00:02]  * ARZi any news ??
[00:07] <ere4si> ARZi: hows gdesklets working?
[00:13] <ARZi> ARZi: hey ! its ok, got all this widgets on desktop like calender, temp, mount drivers etc.  really great
[00:18] <ere4si> ARZi: care to give a screenshot?
[00:23] <twointo1> What causes squash errors on a livecd?  Works on my laptop, but not on my desktop.
[00:24] <twointo1> squashfs errors - sorry
[00:27] <zoredache> I believe it could be a bad burn (check md5), bad optical drive (try cleaning the lense),  memory issues (not enough or bad ram)
[00:28] <zoredache> It is also possible that linux has buggy support for your ide/sata device the cdrom is attached too, but that would be rare
[00:34] <ARZi> ere4si: sure
[00:36] <ere4si> ARZi: on here is easy - http://www.ubuntu-forums.com/g/
[00:38] <twointo1> zoredache: thanks for your help
[00:48] <twointo1> zoredache: Xubuntu 7.10 works perfectly.  I've tried 2 addtional dvd drives with no success.
[00:55] <zoredache> twointo1: so you are trying to install hardy, or?
[01:00] <ARZi> ere4si: very simple, but here -> http://ubuntuforums.org/g/index.php?n=2487
[01:03] <jdk1976> colored init screens. what are they, where are they, help, please, before i die of futility
[01:04] <ere4si> ARZi: apologies - konquerer freaked out and had to reboot - can you give the link again?
[01:05] <ARZi> ere4si: ohh ok, no problem  -> http://ubuntuforums.org/g/index.php?n=2487
[01:05] <ere4si> thnx
[01:05] <ARZi> ;)
[01:06] <ere4si> ARZi: looks good - no starterbar?
[01:07] <zoredache> jdk1976: what they usually are is a set of functions called by init scripts that print out color...  I don't believe there is any easy way to colorize the scripts on ubuntu...
[01:07] <ARZi> ere4si: had some problems with it   :\
[01:07] <jdk1976> man
[01:07] <jdk1976> what about with a usplash script?
[01:08] <jdk1976> anybody ever seen one of those?
[01:08] <ere4si> ARZi: normally it is pretty reliable - what happened?
[01:10] <jdk1976> hey , i'm switchin to my normal name
[01:10] <ARZi> ere4si: it would pop up a error, i clicked to never show it again, and it wont let me add new starters
[01:10] <zoredache> jdk1976: honestly, I have seen any value in the colorizing of scripts...  It seems silly...
[01:10] <jdk1976> it's for an old lady
[01:10] <jdk1976> I switched her to linux
[01:11] <jdk1976> I htink she would like the old multi colored style init i loved from knoppix and mandrake
[01:11] <zoredache> if you are really interested, perhaps you should boot up one of the distros that does it, and figure out how it works...  then see what it would take to port it to ubuntu
[01:11] <jdk1976> it felt good seeing linux boot up back then
[01:11] <jdk1976> it still does, but that init was unique, and I'll always cherish it
[01:11] <ere4si> ARZi: I never had that...
[01:11] <ere4si> *I've
[01:12] <jdk1976> i appreciate the pointers
[01:13] <ARZi> ere4si: idk, maybe reinstalling might help
[01:13] <ere4si> ARZi: maybe...
[01:16] <ARZi> I was looking at Sam-Linux (http://www.sam-linux.org/), downloaded the live CD
[01:16] <zoredache> jdk1976: oh, and just to throw in my $0.02.  My experience has been that the non-geek user completely ignores the bootup screen normally.  You could put a message on there offering them a $100 if they mentioned it to you, and you would never have to pay
[01:17] <ARZi> gonna try if see i like it...
[01:17] <siraxolot> charming observation, apt too.
[01:18] <siraxolot> I know one thing
[01:18] <siraxolot> They don't like the ubuntu coming up
[01:18] <siraxolot>  I have had to change it to text for most people, the old people here where I live.
[01:19] <siraxolot> they think it sounds like a monkey or gibberish
[01:19] <siraxolot> silly old people
[01:19] <zoredache> just tell them it is all there fault
[01:19] <zoredache> they used up all the good words naming things back then
[01:21] <siraxolot> I think i should start charging for the system. the fact that it's free makes many old folks bat a suspicious eye! (old folks think, if it ain't worth $20.00 it ain't worth anything)
[01:21] <ere4si> ARZi: lots of people have looked at you're screenshot
[01:23] <ARZi> ARZi: i refreshed the page a few times, made the count bigger
[01:23] <ARZi> :B lol
[01:23] <ARZi> *ere4si
[01:24] <ere4si> hehe ARZi
[01:28] <ARZi> i'll be gone for a while .... gonna try out http://www.sam-linux.org/
[01:28] <ARZi> & take a shower   :L
[02:54] <joeyjojo> Just upgrade my video card to Nividia Geforce 8800gt
[02:54] <joeyjojo> and now it will not let me specify the card right
[02:54] <joeyjojo> actually under restricted drivers it says I have no restricted devices to use
[02:55] <joeyjojo> and then it doesnt let me specify the nvidia card in Settings > Screens and Graphics
[02:55] <joeyjojo> when I set it to Geforce 8 it doesn't work
[02:56] <joeyjojo> neither does the basic nvidia driver
[02:56] <joeyjojo> no workie
[02:56] <joeyjojo> at all...
[02:57] <joeyjojo> ?
[03:05] <joeyjojo> well don't be so eager to help
[03:05] <joeyjojo> all at once
[03:05] <joeyjojo> LMAO
[03:05] <joeyjojo> fuk it
[03:05] <joeyjojo> gonna try 8.x
[03:07] <joeyjojo> bullet proof x my Ass
[03:08] <vrkhans> hi problem my panel just wont appear its self, if i run xfc-panel in terminal it appears but if i close the terminal, panel will close itself
[03:08] <aanderse> press alt+f2
[03:08] <vrkhans> can any one help me what should i do
[03:08] <aanderse> then type it
[03:09] <aanderse> then make sure you save your session with your session manager
[03:09] <vrkhans> how can i save it
[03:10] <vrkhans> thanks it appear now,
[03:10] <aanderse> well, in your menu of applications
[03:10] <aanderse> under "settings" or some such
[03:10] <aanderse> there should be a "session manager" application, or something of that sort
[03:11] <aanderse> in there, you should find some sort of either a "save session" or "automatically save session" option
[03:11] <aanderse> click (or select) it
[03:11] <vrkhans> ok
[03:11] <aanderse> then test it by logging out, and logging back in
[03:11] <vrkhans> thanks
[03:12] <aanderse> no problem at all
[03:12] <aanderse> just tell me if it works so i know you're all good
[03:30] <shiz> hi
[03:40] <shiz> will Xubuntu 8.04 live cd work for installing onto my xbox?
[04:06] <boston_2> I'm having an issue. I keep getting either a 'Bus error', lockup on loading, lockup after login, or 'The greeter application appears to be crashing. Attempting to use a different one.'.
[04:09] <boston_2> The HDD has been checked with smartctl (not failing, just old), and the RAM has been checked with Memtest86+ (no errors).
[04:27] <boston_2> I'm having an issue. I keep getting either a 'Bus error', lockup on loading, lockup after login, 'The greeter application appears to be crashing. Attempting to use a different one.', or a random crash with stack dump. Sometimes I can get it to run for a bit, but then it either kicks me back to the login screen or just locks up. I can post a transcript of the bus error message if needed.
[04:27]  * ARZi hey guys
[04:28] <ere4si> boston_2: a paste of that might help
[04:28] <ere4si> !paste
[04:28] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[04:30] <boston_2> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/61101/
[04:36] <ere4si> boston_2: that does look ugly :) - I would use the live cd to run fdisk on that partition - make sure the partition is unmounted first
[04:36] <ere4si> boston_2: sorry - not fdisk - fsck
[04:38] <boston_2> ok. I was worried that something went amiss. Guess I might have been right. I have been able to run both Memtest86+ and smartctl, and both came up fine.
[04:40] <ere4si> boston_2: looks like the disk might be on the way out - see if fsck does any good
[04:44] <boston_2> guess it was a good thing I copied all the useful stuff from the drive then...
[04:45] <ere4si> boston_2: fsck might be able to shift stuff from the bad blocks....maybe
[04:50] <boston_2> ok. I'll try that. Thanks
[05:59] <linuxman> hello all. which xubuntu release should i download for a amd k series processor 500 mhz. 10 GB HD 128 mb of ram??
[08:58] <gerro> hello
[09:02] <s_arts> hi
[09:10] <gerro> s_arts: how you doing?
[09:11] <s_arts> me doing work
[09:11] <s_arts> otherwise, iḿ doing fine :)
[09:11] <s_arts> i'm*
[09:12] <gerro> same diff
[09:13] <Abominus69> Can anyone recommend a good image viewer for opening lots of comics where each page is stored as a jpg?
[09:13] <gerro> um there's comix
[09:14] <Abominus69> Will that open them all in one program, or open a separate program instance for each page?
[09:15] <gerro> but there a few other apps in the repository like qcomicbook, stripclub, buoh, cbrpager, dosage
[09:15] <Abominus69> strip club sounds great.  forget about comics.  :p
[09:15] <gerro> Abominus69: no clue but that dosage program does look interesting I might give it a try then I can read comics on my little nokia system
[09:16] <gerro> Abominus69: all look but no touch mint condition hence strip club :P
[09:16] <gerro> most people call them strips too like some my aussie friends
[12:13] <skylive> Hi, I'm using xubuntu and where can I get the restricted-extras?
[12:14] <TheSheep> !repos
[12:14] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[12:49] <skyliv3> hi again, does anyone know how I can change the port for tightvncserver? I can't find a howto on how to do it
[12:52] <maxamillion> skyliv3: i wouldn't know that off the top of my head, but since that one isn't xubuntu specific then maybe someone in #ubuntu might know
[12:53] <skyliv4>  hi again, does anyone know how I can change the port for tightvncserver? I can't find a howto on how to do it
[12:58] <wompy> Hi,i've got an old machine with xubuntu 7.10 installed,but my little brother smashed sth.anyway-i'm able zu login,then the desktop comes up,but there's no shortcut,no "start-bar" and i'm not able to "click" something.does someone know this problem?is there a way to "repair" the installation?Thanks!
[13:08] <skyliv1> hi does anyone know how to change the port in tightvncserver?
[13:50] <heymr> hey, how can I check what wireless driver its using to use my dlink wifi dongle?
[13:59] <heymr> so must i use an ndiswrapper for DWL-G122 ?
[14:11] <gynterk> whats the command for hibernate ?
[14:59] <gynterk> If I choose hibernate
[14:59] <gynterk> how can I make to lock screen
[14:59] <gynterk> on rerun
[14:59] <gynterk> with xflock4
[15:00] <cody-somerville> gynterk, I believe I remember seeing a bug report about that.
[15:01] <gynterk> ah, okay
[15:02] <gynterk> Is it possible to chance "system" menu?
[15:04] <gynterk> no, I mean that Settings in menu
[15:49] <wompy_> Hi!is it possible to start the "xfce-start-bar" manually through a console?
[15:54] <wompy_> or how can i do a clean "reinstall" of xfce with apt-get.my desktop comes up,after a gui-login,but im not able to launch any programs,because theres no start-bar or any shortcut
[15:56] <zoredache_> wompy_: try pressting alt-f2 then xfce4-panel
[15:56] <zoredache_> or, before you reinstall go to a terminal and add a new user, then login as that new user and see if things work
[15:57] <wompy_> zoredache: it says: Gtk-Warnin **:cannot open display
[15:57] <zoredache> wompy_: where did you try running that?
[15:57] <wompy_> thanks for your help
[15:58] <wompy_> i logged in "under" alt-f2 and typed in xfce4-panel
[15:59] <zoredache> and you got a message cannot open display?  that is unusual...
[16:00] <TheSheep> wompy_: you mean alt+ctrl+f2?
[16:00] <TheSheep> wompy_: you were supposed to press alt+f2, without ctrl
[16:01] <wompy_> yeah!thanks
[16:03] <wompy_> now,i've got another problem: there is no "frame" when i open for example firefox,so i cant move the window..
[16:05] <zoredache> try try xfwm4
[16:06] <zoredache> try running xfwm4 rather
[16:08] <wompy_> merci!thanks a lot!
[17:39] <slow-motion> hi
[17:40] <ere4si> hi slow-motion
[17:40] <slow-motion> hi ere4si
[17:40] <ere4si> :)
[17:55] <Devolved> hi all
[17:56] <ere4si> !hi
[17:56] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #xubuntu!
[17:56] <Devolved> haha nice
[17:56] <ere4si> :)
[17:57] <Devolved> i have a recurring problem, with gutsy and now hardy. my GDM screen resolution is wrong, and i can't seem to change it.
[17:58] <tomplast> Removing xorg.conf and then setting the resoltultion doesn't help?
[17:58] <tomplast> resolution
[17:59] <Devolved> setting the resolution by doing "dpkg reconfigure xorg"?
[17:59] <Devolved> hasn't worked
[17:59] <Devolved> and now there's that (creepy) minimal xorg config
[17:59] <tomplast> No I meant the GUI.
[18:00] <ere4si> the gdm resolution uses a diff driver to you're system once logged in
[18:00] <Devolved> ah, when i change it in xfce, the resolution changes ok
[18:00] <Devolved> but only for xfce
[18:00] <tomplast> I'm not sure but you could try :)
[18:00] <ere4si> the vid drivers are loaded after login
[18:00] <Devolved> and sometimes my monitor stays black when it switches, which is the main problem
[18:01] <tomplast> Hmm, I hate those things. But try to remove xorg.conf and then setting the resolution through the GUI.
[18:03] <tomplast> I had this problem before as well with GDM, I think I solved it that way.
[18:04] <Devolved> so set it via the xfce settings manager?
[18:05] <tomplast> Hmm, I'm not sure. I'm using GNOME so you are on your own I guess :/.
[18:05] <tomplast> Sorry.
[18:05] <tomplast> In GNOME there is an application for setting the graphics driver and resolution etc.
[18:06] <tomplast> displayconfig-gtk is the name of the program
[18:06] <tomplast> try running gksudo displayconfig-gtk
[18:06] <tomplast> I think it's included in Xubuntu
[18:07] <siggjen> it is
[18:09] <tomplast> Good :)
[18:17] <Devolved> i'll try that
[18:47] <cody-somerville> There is an Xubuntu community meeting taking place in #ubuntu-meeting in roughly 15 minutes. If you're interested in getting involved in Xubuntu or are interested in the future direction of the project, please feel free to join us. For background information, please see: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2008-March/005242.html
[18:47] <siggjen>  
[18:54] <stani> When I use compiz my keyboard shortcuts with Alt don't work anymore (eg Alt+F2 xfrun4). Does anybody know how to fix this?
[18:55] <ere4si> doesn't compiz use it's own keyboard shortcuts?
[18:56] <stani> Yes, but also when I configure it with compiz, it does not work.
[18:57] <ere4si> stani: the good folk in #compiz might be able to help - I don't use it :)
[18:57] <stani> ok
[19:02] <BillyJoe> hello I installed xubuntu from a USB drive that also had free 2nd parttiton with free space.  During set up it installed the grub to the USB Stick instead of the hard disk.. Is there a way to copy it from the USB to the HD, or is there a way to have it auto detect every thing and create a new one?
[19:05] <zoredache> BillyJoe: you should be able to boot of your usb stick again into rescue mode, then manually install grub onto the correct drive
[19:06] <zoredache> !grubrepair | BillyJoe
[19:06] <ubotu> BillyJoe: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[19:19] <killown> hi ,can anyone helpme??? I have installed xubuntu but I cannot add menu on panel becase item menu does not exist
[19:19] <killown> I need install anything to can add menu xunbuntu?
[19:23] <zoredache> the 'applications' menu is automagically generated from a series of files  You should be able to add to the menu, but if you are wanting to update the exists folders you would need to dig into the system wide configuration instead of just your own
[19:23] <TheSheep> killown: no, it should bei nstalled by default, at the bottom
[19:24] <TheSheep> zoredache: you can actually change your own config too, by copying the files from /usr/share/applications to ~/.local/share/applications and editing there
[19:26] <zoredache> ah, neat
[19:31] <killown> TheSheep, add new item on panel not show  xfce4-popup-menu
[23:52] <Bisclaveret> so new question. how does one remove zombie processes? it seems nearly every time i start file-roller or mousepad it leaves a zombie process behind that's unkillable
[23:55] <cody-somerville> What version of Xubuntu do you run Bisclaveret?
[23:56] <Bisclaveret> 7.10
[23:57] <cody-somerville> I believe that bug is fixed in the current development version.
[23:58] <Bisclaveret> like right now
[23:58] <Bisclaveret> bisclaveret@Dragon:~$ ps -e |grep defunct
[23:58] <Bisclaveret>  6185 ?        00:00:01 file-roller <defunct>
[23:58] <Bisclaveret>  6297 ?        00:00:01 file-roller <defunct>
[23:58]  * cody-somerville nods.
[23:59] <cody-somerville> try kill -9 <pid>
[23:59] <Bisclaveret> yesterday before i rebooted i had half a dozen of them and like 15 mousepad processes
[23:59] <ron_o> is magnatune available for xubuntu?
[23:59] <Bisclaveret> doens't work
[23:59] <Bisclaveret> bisclaveret@Dragon:~$ kill -9 6297
[23:59] <Bisclaveret> bisclaveret@Dragon:~$ ps -e |grep defunct
[23:59] <Bisclaveret>  6185 ?        00:00:01 file-roller <defunct>
[23:59] <Bisclaveret>  6297 ?        00:00:01 file-roller <defunct>