| gggggig | hi | 00:02 |
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| gggggig | why nautilus-actions - 1.4.1-1ubuntu1 isn't mainstream yet? | 00:06 |
| gggggig | https://launchpad.net/~afflux/+archive it seems to be approved in hardy | 00:07 |
| Pici | It is in Hardy | 00:08 |
| Pici | !info nautilus-actions hardy | 00:09 |
| Pici | er.. nautilus-actions | 1.4.1-1 | http://archive.ubuntu.com hardy/universe Packages | 00:10 |
| Pici | oh.. ubuntu-1, nevermind, I missed that | 00:10 |
| gggggig | What could be happened? | 00:13 |
| Pici | ... | 00:20 |
| Tuv0k | Bug #207482 | 01:49 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 207482 in liferea "Latest version (1.4.14-0ubuntu1) crashes on start" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/207482 | 01:49 |
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| alex-weej | is it just my computer that can't Ctrl+Alt+Fn to switch VT from X? | 02:29 |
| alex-weej | i have a hell of a time trying to get to a TTY if X is running | 02:29 |
| alex-weej | usually involves me hammering Ctrl+Alt+Backspace a lot and hoping GDM gives up trying to respawn | 02:30 |
| alex-weej | and then conceding, logging into a failsafe terminal and doing /etc/init.d/gdm stop | 02:30 |
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| savvas | Hi, I've noticed a problem with bug #182840 and bug #200479 - the first one is private, should be marked as public if nothing really private was going on, and the latter is mine, and should be marked as a duplicate | 07:54 |
| ubotu | Bug 182840 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/182840 is private | 07:55 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 200479 in iproute "tc crashed with SIGSEGV in prio_print_opt()won" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/200479 | 07:55 |
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| pedro_ | good morning | 11:02 |
| pedro_ | today is hug day! | 11:02 |
| pedro_ | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/20080327 feel free to grab any bug out the list | 11:03 |
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| techno_freak | i find half the list to be already taken care of ;) | 11:09 |
| bicyclist | Rehi pedro_ | 11:09 |
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| pedro_ | hug day! | 12:20 |
| pedro_ | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/20080327 <- squash a bug and win a hug ;-) | 12:21 |
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| hggdh | morning pedro_, happy [bh]ug day... I will try to help | 12:34 |
| pedro_ | hello hggdh, rock on! , thanks ;-) | 12:35 |
| pedro_ | sourcercito: you're crazy | 12:35 |
| hggdh | btw, sorry about forgetting to the the Evo bug to desktop-bugs... | 12:35 |
| hggdh | s/the the/set the/ | 12:35 |
| sourcercito | pedro_, i'm sick | 12:35 |
| sourcercito | :P | 12:35 |
| pedro_ | hggdh: that's ok, you rock ;-) | 12:35 |
| * sourcercito waves | 12:36 | |
| * pedro_ hugs hggdh | 12:36 | |
| * hggdh hugs back pedro_ and everybody else (a collectivising hug) | 12:36 | |
| pedro_ | sourcercito: you might want to update your lp profile with the photo you sent me a while ago | 12:36 |
| pedro_ | the one with the mask | 12:37 |
| pedro_ | at least the little icon :-P | 12:37 |
| sourcercito | don't remember that photo | 12:38 |
| pedro_ | sourcercito: i guess you were on a basement with a white mask on your mouth/nose | 12:39 |
| pedro_ | you really looked like a bug killer :-P | 12:39 |
| sourcercito | ahhh, right, that was a cool idea, but the quality was way too low | 12:40 |
| sourcercito | ;) | 12:40 |
| sourcercito | heheheh | 12:40 |
| Iulian | Hey | 13:05 |
| pedro_ | hello Iulian! | 13:06 |
| Iulian | Hiya pedro_! :) | 13:07 |
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| pedro_ | quick reminder today is the GDM, GNOME Screensaver and Konqueror Hug Day https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/20080327 . You can squash a bug and later on commit it to the 5-A-Day https://wiki.ubuntu.com/5-A-Day | 14:00 |
| pedro_ | oh qense you're just in time for killing some bugs ;-) | 14:00 |
| qense | hello :) | 14:00 |
| pedro_ | how are you today | 14:00 |
| qense | happy bug day :) | 14:00 |
| qense | I'm fine, thanks :) | 14:00 |
| pedro_ | good! | 14:01 |
| qense | how're you all doing? | 14:01 |
| pedro_ | I'm fine, thanks. well , celebrating the hug/bug day ;-) | 14:01 |
| * heno waves to qense and pedro | 14:02 | |
| pedro_ | hello heno! | 14:04 |
| afflux | morning | 14:05 |
| pedro_ | morning afflux | 14:05 |
| afflux | hi pedro_ | 14:06 |
| qense | helllo | 14:06 |
| afflux | err | 14:14 |
| afflux | may someone have a look at bug 207737 and it's reporter? | 14:14 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 207737 in libdebian-installer "best" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/207737 | 14:14 |
| afflux | I've the impression that this is a bot... | 14:14 |
| qense | unless he likes email address with just numbers I agree | 14:16 |
| pedro_ | could be but he only has reported 1 bug not a lot to determine | 14:17 |
| qense | would you be able to remind this: 919855269770@yahoo.com.au ? | 14:17 |
| afflux | Of course :P | 14:17 |
| pedro_ | why not? can you remember your passport number? | 14:17 |
| pedro_ | same thing | 14:18 |
| pedro_ | same as you remember phone numbers, etc | 14:18 |
| afflux | pedro_: I can't o.o | 14:18 |
| pedro_ | i don't think we can determine it with only 1 report | 14:18 |
| afflux | yes, definetly | 14:18 |
| pedro_ | afflux: :-P | 14:18 |
| afflux | (My phone number is 5-digit :P) | 14:18 |
| qense | well, maybe he likes having a weird email address :) | 14:19 |
| pedro_ | here is 7 and cellphone like 9/10 | 14:19 |
| qense | maybe we just should watch the user | 14:19 |
| afflux | I met someone having a www. in front of his email | 14:19 |
| pedro_ | yes we can keep an eye over him just in case of | 14:19 |
| afflux | does LP suggest login names out of email adresses? | 14:20 |
| pedro_ | don't know | 14:21 |
| qense | The reporter of bug 177745 created an awful lot of tags, shouldn't some of them eb removed? | 14:23 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 177745 in gdm "Login Window Preferences: custom welcome message does not take effect." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/177745 | 14:23 |
| james_w | if they don't make sense remove them | 14:24 |
| qense | I mean 'welcome' or 'gdm.conf-custom' aren't really some good tags | 14:24 |
| james_w | I've seen people just copy the whole title in there before | 14:24 |
| james_w | yeah, drop them. | 14:24 |
| * afflux thinks that naming them "tasks" is a bad idea: those nasty web2.0 apps make them think they should add anything they associate with this bug | 14:25 | |
| qense | is login a good tag? there are four bugs with that tag | 14:27 |
| james_w | I don't think so, I don't really know why that would be interesting. | 14:29 |
| james_w | I guess searching for duplicates perhaps | 14:29 |
| qense | is Login Window Preferences Applet a part of GDM? | 14:30 |
| seb128 | yes | 14:31 |
| qense | wait | 14:31 |
| qense | nvm | 14:32 |
| * heno closes bug 207737 -- that really is invalid | 14:39 | |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 207737 in libdebian-installer "best" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/207737 | 14:39 |
| qense | you could say that | 14:39 |
| qense | what is the guideline for marking bugs invalid because no one has responded for a long time? A month? | 14:43 |
| pedro_ | qense: yes, a month or wait for the lp janitor | 14:44 |
| qense | btw, is there a way of gathering the email address of all upstream project maintainers of the packages in Ubuntu using a launchpad script? | 14:46 |
| qense | I'd like to make a start with the project I suggested on the mailinglist if no one thinks I shouldn't | 14:46 |
| james_w | qense: I think *all* would be a bit much for you | 14:49 |
| qense | that's trye | 14:49 |
| qense | could be true | 14:49 |
| qense | what I wanted to do is send all maintainers an email and wait for their reply | 14:49 |
| james_w | if you sent an automated mail to them all then you would be drowned in resposes I think | 14:49 |
| qense | I could create a filter and export them to text files | 14:50 |
| james_w | I think it's a great idea though. | 14:50 |
| qense | if I'd put it on the wiki or somewhere else people could help changing it to human readable text for the wiki | 14:50 |
| james_w | I think you may be better off working with the biggest packages first, e.g. gnome | 14:50 |
| james_w | or you could sort packages in ubuntu by the number of bug reports and work down. | 14:50 |
| james_w | do you think there could be a better place for this information than the wiki? | 14:51 |
| qense | and cut that list into pieces and let people choose which part they want to do | 14:51 |
| qense | no | 14:51 |
| qense | but first we need to make a list :) | 14:52 |
| pedro_ | for GNOME they're here: http://live.gnome.org/Bugsquad/TriageGuide/ProductSpecificGuidelines | 14:52 |
| qense | things like that also make your work easier :) | 14:53 |
| pedro_ | and a few projects keep their own pages at live.gnome.org too like GNOME Power Manager and Evince IIRC | 14:53 |
| james_w | thanks pedro_ | 14:53 |
| pedro_ | yes indeed | 14:53 |
| pedro_ | you're welcome | 14:53 |
| james_w | qense: that's a good start, you could add pointers from the wiki to those pages | 14:54 |
| qense | we need to create a start page for this | 14:54 |
| qense | Bugs/Triaging ? | 14:54 |
| bddebian | Boo | 14:54 |
| qense | hello | 14:55 |
| qense | what do you think of Bugs/Triaging? | 15:01 |
| james_w | perfect I think | 15:02 |
| james_w | then have like Bugs/Triaging/Gnome etc.? | 15:02 |
| qense | At the same time I think I'm going to copy the contents of DebuggingProcedures and it's subpages to there too | 15:02 |
| qense | yes, that is what I'd use | 15:02 |
| james_w | I wouldn't copy it, just add a link | 15:03 |
| james_w | I think you can actually include pages though, which would be perfect | 15:03 |
| qense | yeah | 15:03 |
| qense | but I think we should use the same naming syntax to keep things logical | 15:03 |
| heno | we should do a 'check your own bugs' bug day soon. I'm closing some old bugs of mine now ... | 15:11 |
| qense | where is the page of gnome-power-manager with the requirements for bug reports about it? | 15:16 |
| yuriy | morning | 15:16 |
| qense | heno: good idea, you often forget your own bug reports and if no one else looks at them... | 15:16 |
| qense | hello | 15:16 |
| pedro_ | well i tend to do that daily | 15:18 |
| pedro_ | qense: there's a page on live.gnome.org/GNOMEPowerManager | 15:18 |
| pedro_ | and ted did a page with information too https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingGNOMEPowerManager | 15:19 |
| qense | that page is empty and the other page about gnome power-manager I found just displayed a link to the FAQ :( | 15:19 |
| qense | but I'll include the ubuntu wiki page | 15:19 |
| qense | aargh! I sent again an email to the bugsquad mailing list using the wrong email address! | 15:25 |
| qense | What categories shall I use on the triaging page? | 15:30 |
| qense | the include thing for moinmoin is a macro, I think you have to install it seperately | 15:38 |
| afflux | pedro_ tends to do *all* bugs daily :P | 15:39 |
| afflux | about every second bug I marked as incomplete gets expired by pedro :) | 15:40 |
| pedro_ | haha sorry i'm an addict :-( | 15:40 |
| afflux | hehe | 15:40 |
| afflux | I wonder if being a member of bugcontrol is suitable for ubuntu membership | 15:45 |
| qense | :) | 15:46 |
| qense | Does pedro_ has written a lot of the guides for bug triaging? | 15:46 |
| qense | that could help | 15:47 |
| qense | or did he got a lot of new members for bugcontrol? | 15:47 |
| pedro_ | afflux: I'd say yes | 15:47 |
| pedro_ | if you do a lot of triage work you can apply i can't see any reason why not | 15:48 |
| pedro_ | same as translators for example | 15:48 |
| afflux | hm | 15:48 |
| afflux | not sure if I do a lot of triage :) | 15:48 |
| pedro_ | you can start now ;-) | 15:49 |
| afflux | I mean, I do some triage | 15:49 |
| afflux | *ing | 15:49 |
| afflux | hm, I've 3000 points from bug management, guess thats not too much ;) | 15:51 |
| qense | I've got 990 :) | 15:51 |
| afflux | hehe | 15:51 |
| qense | Pedro Bucellate(pedro) has zero ;) | 15:52 |
| qense | Murray(murray) too | 15:52 |
| qense | Ben Murray too | 15:52 |
| afflux | brian has 13k | 15:53 |
| qense | the real yes :) | 15:53 |
| qense | wow, there are really a lot of pedros | 15:53 |
| qense | and almost all of them have zero karma | 15:54 |
| qense | I'm the only sense with karma :) | 15:58 |
| qense | and the only qense that exists | 15:58 |
| afflux | wow :P | 15:59 |
| qense | I'm special! :P I've got the most karma of a whole list! | 15:59 |
| afflux | <advertising> I posted my script for mass-editing duplicates to the bugsquad ML last night, in case you're interested :) </advertising> | 16:00 |
| james_w | afflux: yeah, I saw that, thanks a lot, I'll try it next time I find one that needs it | 16:00 |
| afflux | okay, cool | 16:01 |
| qense | I read the mail about it, but I haven't tried it yet | 16:01 |
| afflux | qense: you usually don't need it too often | 16:01 |
| qense | I don't look for duplicates, I concentrate more on forwarding, hal, network-manager and power-manager | 16:02 |
| qense | I hope so :) | 16:02 |
| qense | brainstorm is really filled with ideas saying just this 'beat windows by becoming better. I've got a very good idea of how to become better: improve all stuff" | 16:03 |
| qense | or "Imitate windows" | 16:03 |
| qense | someone even suggested to take all things from windows, including software isntalling! | 16:03 |
| qense | aaargh! | 16:03 |
| qense | that idea had -200 or something | 16:04 |
| thekorn | afflux, read this mail, will add this script to the examples/ in py-lp-bugs later, if you don't mind | 16:04 |
| * thekorn waves to all the bug-hunters, happy hugday! | 16:05 | |
| afflux | thekorn: yes, you can do whatever you want :P | 16:05 |
| * qense hasn't done a hugday bug yet. bad, bad qense | 16:05 | |
| afflux | oh, it's hugday again? *runs* | 16:05 |
| qense | it's every thursday and tuesday :) | 16:07 |
| afflux | someone familiar with the gnome bugtracker? Can I just enter a function in which a crash occured? | 16:07 |
| qense | I use it often. | 16:07 |
| qense | But what function do you mean? A part of a program or a programming kind of function? | 16:08 |
| afflux | qense: I'm a student and it's holidays for me in germany, so I have no idea what 's todays day | 16:08 |
| qense | ok :) | 16:08 |
| afflux | a C function for example: gcin_im_client_forward_key_press | 16:08 |
| afflux | (as in: gdmgreeter crashed with SIGSEGV in gcin_im_client_forward_key_press()) | 16:08 |
| qense | You mean in the title? I see that more often at gnome's bugzilla | 16:08 |
| rexy_ | after you file a bug through apport-cli do you need to do anything else or will it get sorted automaticly? | 16:09 |
| afflux | rexy_: a browser widnow should appear guiding you through the bug creation | 16:09 |
| afflux | If http://bugzilla.gnome.org/buglist.cgi?query=gcin_im_client_forward_key_press returns nothing, can I savely open a new bug? | 16:09 |
| rexy_ | afflux, yep did that | 16:09 |
| qense | after that you just have to wait | 16:09 |
| qense | it could be that someone asks you for more information | 16:10 |
| rexy_ | does it automaticly sends a notification to my e-mail if someone does? | 16:10 |
| afflux | rexy_: yes | 16:10 |
| rexy_ | i closed my own bug last time since it was fixed before anything was done with it, happens a lot i suppose? | 16:11 |
| afflux | should we report bugs to gnome if they are not reproducible? | 16:16 |
| afflux | *crasher bugs | 16:16 |
| afflux | (or if we don't know yet whether they are) | 16:17 |
| qense | the problem with those bugs is that crashes often happen at unpredictable times | 16:17 |
| qense | I think that if the user keeps having irregular crashes you should forward it | 16:17 |
| afflux | let's look at bug 203545 | 16:18 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 203545 in gdm "gdmgreeter crashed with SIGSEGV in pango_ot_ruleset_description_hash()" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/203545 | 16:18 |
| afflux | It contains a complete backtrace but close to no descriptions, I guess it just crashed right after starting. | 16:18 |
| qense | I think that at that sort of bugs we should wait if it happens a lot more often | 16:20 |
| qense | I had also a lot of random crashes lately until I removed the compiled candido gtk engine | 16:20 |
| qense | I've got amd64 and I think candido is mainly written for i386 | 16:20 |
| afflux | hm, looking at https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-terminal/+bug/188565 (which is listed as an example on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Upstream/GNOME), it didn't contain reproducing information and was forwarded | 16:21 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 188565 in gnome-terminal "gnome-terminal crashed with SIGSEGV" [Medium,Fix released] | 16:21 |
| afflux | pedro_: ping, question! | 16:21 |
| qense | maybe they can get enough information from apport | 16:21 |
| afflux | pedro_: should we report bugs to gnome if they are not reproducible (or if we don't know yet whether they are)? | 16:22 |
| qense | well, I go, bye | 16:46 |
| heno | pedro_: I'm following up on bug 201466 I asked you about it recently and you pointed me at a possibly related bug and a work-around -- but I have forgotten :-/ Could you remind me pls? | 16:47 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 201466 in xorg "gdm_slave_xioerror_handler error in ubuntu hardy heron Alpha 6" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/201466 | 16:47 |
| pedro_ | ah heno : Option"AccelMethod""XAA" at the Device section | 17:05 |
| pedro_ | and if you're having issues with firefox (black images) you may want to add : Option"XAANoOffscreenPixmaps" | 17:05 |
| pedro_ | to the same section | 17:05 |
| pedro_ | afflux: regarding which bug? the gnome-terminal one? | 17:06 |
| heno | pedro_: a thanks. So the question is should I remove the hack now to see if the problem still occurs? Could be painful to find out ... | 17:06 |
| afflux | pedro_: no, regarding bug 203545 and bug 199157 | 17:07 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 203545 in gdm "gdmgreeter crashed with SIGSEGV in pango_ot_ruleset_description_hash()" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/203545 | 17:07 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 199157 in gdm "gdmgreeter crashed with SIGSEGV in gcin_im_client_forward_key_press()" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/199157 | 17:07 |
| pedro_ | heno: ah yeah, that'd be good, I haven't tried to reproduce it lately | 17:08 |
| pedro_ | afflux: looking | 17:08 |
| afflux | pedro_: I'll brew a coffee, will be back in some minutes | 17:08 |
| pedro_ | afflux: second one looks like a gcin issue not a gdm one | 17:09 |
| pedro_ | you may want to reassign it | 17:10 |
| qense | hello | 17:22 |
| cowbud | so was there ever a metapackage put together for like ubuntu-desktop-dbg? | 17:26 |
| afflux | pedro_: right, what about the other one? | 17:34 |
| pedro_ | afflux: looks like pango, you can forward it if there's nothing on upstream already | 17:35 |
| pedro_ | trace is good | 17:35 |
| afflux | pedro_: so, in general, what to do woth non-reproducible bugs? | 17:35 |
| pedro_ | it depends, if it's a crash and the trace is good enough it can be forwarded | 17:36 |
| seb128 | depends if that's reproducible for the user | 17:37 |
| seb128 | if that's the case we encourage him to report the bug upstream | 17:37 |
| seb128 | otherwise and if there is not enough informations we close the bug | 17:37 |
| afflux | seb128: you mean if the user gets a random crash which is not reproducible, it should not be forwarded? | 17:38 |
| seb128 | if it has not enough details to be useful and the users can't get those because that was a one time thing yes | 17:38 |
| seb128 | a debug backtrace is enough details for most of the crashes though, so when the crash is properly retraced it should be sent upstream | 17:39 |
| afflux | hm, okay... | 17:39 |
| seb128 | you think that's not the correct thing to do? | 17:40 |
| afflux | well, I'm not sure. I think it will be the only solution for most random crashes | 17:40 |
| afflux | but, e.g. bug 203545 | 17:41 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 203545 in gdm "gdmgreeter crashed with SIGSEGV in pango_ot_ruleset_description_hash()" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/203545 | 17:41 |
| afflux | seems very much like a random crash which will maybe never happen again (to the reporter!). But it still is a crash with a full stacktrace which may be a problem in some rare cases. | 17:42 |
| seb128 | afflux: as said this one should be sent upstream, it has a detailled stacktrace | 17:43 |
| seb128 | afflux: might be http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=471261 | 17:43 |
| ubotu | Gnome bug 471261 in general "Crash in pango_ot_ruleset_add_feature" [Critical,Unconfirmed] | 17:43 |
| afflux | okay, haven't searched for it yet | 17:44 |
| afflux | so, we reject bugs which are not reproducible and don't have a good stacktrace? | 17:45 |
| afflux | that would sound sane to me | 17:45 |
| seb128 | afflux: correct | 17:48 |
| afflux | okay, thanks a lot for clarification : | 17:48 |
| greg-g | dang lock on the bzr repo | 18:21 |
| james_w | I need a gnome person: bug 204821 | 18:29 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 204821 in ubuntu "[hardy beta 1] GNOME Settings Deamon gives error when starting live CD" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/204821 | 18:29 |
| james_w | specifically: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/12923803/.xsession-errors | 18:29 |
| james_w | it looks like the cause of the problem may be | 18:29 |
| james_w | ** (gnome-settings-daemon:8547): WARNING **: Error opening directory '/etc/gnome/config': No such file or directory | 18:29 |
| james_w | or perhaps it is just a warning. | 18:29 |
| james_w | but it is the only message from the settings-daemon | 18:30 |
| james_w | I have that directory on my system, but dpkg doesn't know anything about it | 18:30 |
| pedro_ | it seems to be created by the capplets-data package | 18:34 |
| james_w | I don't think it would be killing gnome-session though | 18:39 |
| james_w | what happens to -session then? | 18:39 |
| XiXaQ | Regarding Evolution. There are so many bugs in that piece of software, it's hard to believe. Which bugfixes will be available using ubuntu updates? | 18:58 |
| pedro_ | XiXaQ: updates to gutsy? the ones that worth for a SRU: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates | 19:00 |
| XiXaQ | well, in general. Actually, I'm more concerned about hardy. | 19:00 |
| pedro_ | otherwise you may want to wait till hardy is released or uprade to hardy | 19:00 |
| pedro_ | any bug in particular? | 19:01 |
| XiXaQ | yes, I filed one yesterday. In Evolution, when you view a preview of a task, select some text and copy it, either using the menus or ctrl+c, Evolution crashes. | 19:03 |
| pedro_ | bug 207286 ? | 19:04 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 207286 in evolution "evolution-alarm-notify crashed with SIGSEGV in g_slice_free1()" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/207286 | 19:04 |
| bicyclist | Could it be that energy managment received some major bug fixes ? My Sony Vaio is running way quieter and goes faster into energy saving than before. | 19:05 |
| XiXaQ | pedro_, oh. No, I filed it on bugzilla; http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=524121 | 19:05 |
| ubotu | Gnome bug 524121 in Tasks "Copy in task preview closes evolution" [Critical,New] | 19:06 |
| pedro_ | XiXaQ: you should ask to the evolution maintainers then | 19:06 |
| pedro_ | if they make the fix available to 2.22.1 it can make it to hardy or hardy.1 | 19:06 |
| XiXaQ | but not in a general update? | 19:07 |
| pedro_ | a general update to what? | 19:08 |
| XiXaQ | there are some _big_ bugs in Evolution and I really hope that they will be available as normal updates as they're fixed. Waiting six months for a fix just isn't possible. | 19:08 |
| pedro_ | as i said if it's worth for a SRU you can ask for one | 19:09 |
| pedro_ | and get those fixes available trough the -updates | 19:09 |
| XiXaQ | pedro_, thanks for that link. I think all the bugs I'm working on qualifies for SRU. | 19:39 |
| afflux | until release, bugs in hardy don't need to qualify for SRU to get fixed, do they? | 19:44 |
| XiXaQ | maybe not, but many of thiese bugs won't be fixed before hardy is released. | 19:54 |
| XiXaQ | actually, most of them. | 19:55 |
| XiXaQ | Evolution is such a central application for office users, it's really important that those crasher bugs and other obvious bugs are fixed as quickly as possible. | 19:58 |
| rockstar_ | XiXaQ, are these bugs specific to ubuntu, or to evolution? | 20:08 |
| XiXaQ | to evolution of course. | 20:08 |
| XiXaQ | but it's important for me to get those fixes into ubuntu as they're released. | 20:09 |
| rockstar_ | XiXaQ, then you're probably barking up the wrong tree. You probably ought to make the case more upstream. | 20:09 |
| XiXaQ | does upstream decide what should be updated using ubuntus update mechanism? | 20:09 |
| afflux | XiXaQ: upstream provides the fixes | 20:22 |
| XiXaQ | yes, I understand that. That doesn't help me if I have to wait until the next version of ubuntu though. Especially not if I have to wait until the next LTS version. I was hoping I could stick with hardy for a good while. | 20:23 |
| afflux | XiXaQ: I guess most evolution crasher bugs have been forwarded upstream, we can't do anything (except fixing them on our own, what I can't, and most other bug triagers can't either) until they provide the fixes. We can cherry-pick them into ubuntu then. | 20:25 |
| XiXaQ | I'm asking whether or not fixes from evolution will be forwarded to the stable release or if I have to wait until the next release, but I guess that page gives me some hope. | 20:27 |
| afflux | oh. Sorry, I misunderstood that. Yes, that would need a SRU then, and I think crashes are suitable for that | 20:28 |
| XiXaQ | crashes, and I'm working on the large number of category related bugs, which doesn't cause evolution to crash, but only renders a big part of it useless. | 20:32 |
| XiXaQ | those should be perfectly safe fixes though, so I guess it'll at least have a chance. I think evolution deserves some special attention. | 20:33 |
| salty-horse | shouldn't this be a priority? for some production systems, those 7 minutes are important: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ntp/+bug/157608/ | 21:02 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 157608 in ntp "Adjust Time -> Sync with Internet Time Servers never syncs." [Undecided,Confirmed] | 21:02 |
| Kmos | salty-horse: ask in #ubuntu-devel | 21:20 |
| afflux | Yasumoto: please release the lock on the 5-a-day branch: bzr break-lock bzr+ssh://yasumoto7@bazaar.launchpad.net/~5-a-day/5-a-day-data/main/ | 22:16 |
| thekorn | afflux, did you found the lost ~40 bugs in the 5-a-day stats? | 22:59 |
| afflux | thekorn: nope, opened a question and found out that 1.) daniel is not a anwers contact, 2.) I cannot subscribe people to questions yet :) | 23:00 |
| afflux | thekorn: kiko suggested to write him an email, so I replied to daniels 5-a-day mail on bugsquad, I think he'll look into it when he has some time | 23:01 |
| thekorn | afflux, hehe, I just found out that there is a diff between the number of lines in peoples data-files and the bug count on the stats page also for other people | 23:02 |
| afflux | ah | 23:03 |
| afflux | good to hear, it's not me being to stupid :) | 23:03 |
| thekorn | afflux, ok, it seems some of your bugs a private, this might be one part of the diff | 23:04 |
| thekorn | afflux, for your data file i get exactly 40 bugs where launchpadbugs raises an error when parsing the bugs | 23:06 |
| thekorn | that's it | 23:06 |
| afflux | ah | 23:07 |
| thekorn | afflux, will answer to your mail with my results | 23:08 |
| afflux | thanks | 23:09 |
| afflux | good night :) | 23:42 |
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