[00:00] <gunny> hey all ...recommendations for best DVB (PAL) dual tuner supported without probs by kernel ??
[00:01] <free1> good question gunny
[00:02] <gunny> well i've looked at wki but it seems out of date
[00:02] <gunny> i'm looking at the dvico dual digital 4
[00:02] <laga> DVB-C/DVB-T/DVB-S/DVB-S2? not to mention DVB-H...
[00:03] <gunny> DVB-T
[00:15] <macosxgeek> !seen skr3dii
[00:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen skr3dii - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:16] <macosxgeek> hey hemiola
[00:16] <hemiola> hi :-)
[00:16] <superm1> hi free1
[00:16] <macosxgeek>  !seen is not working with that bot
[00:17] <free1> superm1: hello
[00:17] <free1> superm1:
[00:17] <macosxgeek> what the hell is that
[00:17] <macosxgeek> ubotu> Your edit request has been forwarded to #ubuntu-ops.  Thank you for your attention to detail
[00:17] <Pici> macosxgeek: /msg seenserv help
[00:17] <macosxgeek> Pici thx
[00:17] <Pici> macosxgeek: no need for the bot to have !seen :)
[00:17] <free1> superm1: what's the word on the chicago mug
[00:17] <superm1> free1, i dont live in chicago anymore
[00:17] <superm1> so not so sure
[00:17] <Pici> macosxgeek: Because it thought it was a factoid because you had 'is' in part of the thing
[00:17]  * Pici departs
[00:19] <free1> superm1:  can I ask you the Pinnacle pctv hd pro usb stick 800e, compatible with myth?
[00:20] <superm1> free1, i'm not sure.  best bet is checking the linuxtv.org wiki
[00:20] <superm1> on usb sticks
[00:21] <free1> superm1:  no real updates past the 300e
[00:21] <superm1> then it is probably not functional....
[00:21] <superm1> do u have one?
[00:21] <free1> superm1:  so where there ever any chicago meetings
[00:21] <superm1> free1, i was only in chicago for a very short period of time, but didnt hear of any
[00:21] <free1> superm1: I'm thinking of buying one.
[00:22] <superm1> free1, i wouldn't say its a smart investment
[00:22] <macosxgeek> anyone knows CyberDance overhere?
[00:22] <free1> superm1: oh ok, because your name along with several others is on the wiki for chicago mug
[00:23] <superm1> that.s a long time ago.  probaby when i first started using myth :)
[00:25] <free1> superm1:  really... so if it works with linxtv (from what I've been told), wouldn't work with myth?
[00:26] <OpenMedia> laga + superm1 - Sorry off elsewhere
[00:27] <superm1> free1, well if it exposes a v4l2 or dvb interface it will work
[00:27] <superm1> so if you have heard it does
[00:27] <superm1> then great
[00:27] <superm1> if not, then dont touch that stuff
[00:27] <superm1> hi OpenMedia
[00:27] <superm1> how goes $things
[00:28] <OpenMedia> Good. Had a play with 8.04 Beta
[00:28] <OpenMedia> Installed it on a 4Gb USB stick and the put the myPVR layer over the top
[00:28] <OpenMedia> painless.. Very very nice
[00:30] <confuzed_> Is there a special channel for mythbuntu 8.04?
[00:32] <superm1> OpenMedia, be careful with putting that on a usb stick directly that is mounted rw though
[00:32] <laga> confuzed_: no
[00:32] <superm1> you can burn through its life quick
[00:33] <confuzed_> laga, thanks
[00:33] <OpenMedia> superm1: It was just for a quick test of the USB boot.
[00:33] <destructar> hi... anyone know of a script to add recorded shows to the "recorded" table in the mythtv database? I have lots of old recordings and just reinstalled mythtv yesterday along with fresh db
[00:33] <laga> superm1: i hear it's not a problem anymore today, with wear leveling and stuff
[00:33] <OpenMedia> A 100,000 write cycle unit should be fine.
[00:33] <OpenMedia> Atleast for a couple of years
[00:33] <confuzed_> I am testing 8.04 on a new setup and I have seen a few issues, but the launchpad page for 8.04 is basically empty... does anyone look at it?
[00:34] <superm1> confuzed_, we dont track to exact versions in LP as well as we should
[00:34] <superm1> just put it on the general bugs page
[00:34] <superm1> laga, OpenMedia ah
[00:34] <confuzed_> It is 8.04 specific though... will it hurt to put in the 8.04 page?
[00:35] <destructar> or is there some other setting I don't know about in which I don't have to bother filling the recorded table with old data? I'm running 0.2
[00:35] <free1> superm1:  thanks for the info! hmm, do you think hauppauge pcmcia is the best bet?
[00:35] <superm1> free1, didn't even know they made pcmcia cards :)
[00:35] <superm1> pci yes
[00:35] <superm1> but pcmica?
[00:35] <superm1> pcmcia
[00:35] <superm1> confuzed_, just mention 8.04 in the bug report
[00:35] <free1> yes,
[00:35] <free1> oops
[00:35] <destructar> i'm using hdhomerun box... it's nice if you want hd content
[00:36] <superm1> it's a little easier that way for tracking them right now
[00:36] <free1> pcmcia card
[00:36] <superm1> if there is linux support yeah hauppauge products are top notch
[00:36] <superm1> but i'm not sure on linux support for a pcmcia card
[00:37] <free1> superm1: mostly desktop then?
[00:38] <superm1> that's what they're good at yeah
[00:38] <free1> superm1: because the usb support isn't as stellar, no?
[00:38] <confuzed_> superm1, I will thanks...
[00:38] <superm1> free1, yeah well not existant for some of the stuff
[00:39] <confuzed_> Here is my problem... I installed (and removed and reinstalled) the vnc plugin via mythcenter...  however it doesn't appear to be configured to run on startup (as verified via "ps aux |grep vnc)
[00:39] <confuzed_> What is the recommended method for getting it to start at boot
[00:39] <superm1> confuzed_, you using xfce desktop, or ubuntu desktop?
[00:40] <confuzed_> The default for 8.04... XFCE I think
[00:41] <confuzed_> In addition my system seems to want to run mythbuntu-startup --load on boot, which requires a password, why and how do I disable it?
[00:41] <superm1> confuzed_, ah i know what happened
[00:41] <superm1> you installed from the beta right?
[00:41] <confuzed_> Yep...
[00:41] <superm1> there was a bug in the beta
[00:41] <superm1> if you chose vnc during adv install
[00:41] <superm1> its fixed now..
[00:42] <superm1> but if you have the ability to do so, i would recommend reinstalling
[00:42] <superm1> with vnc turned off
[00:42] <superm1> until you boot the first time
[00:42] <confuzed_> Ok... I am fully patched up... uninstalling and reinstalling vnc won't fix the problem?
[00:42] <confuzed_> I tried... it didn't.
[00:42] <superm1> well the problem actually spawns a fair deal of other things
[00:42] <superm1> where packages didn't get configured
[00:42] <superm1> installed
[00:42] <superm1> etc
[00:42] <superm1> the problem was directly in the installer
[00:42] <confuzed_> ahh... ok... I will reinstall... I have nothing better to do ;-)
[00:43] <superm1> (ubiquity)
[00:43] <superm1> if you would like to install with vnc, then update ubiquity in the live env
[00:43] <superm1> the latest one in apt fixes it
[00:43] <destructar> stupid internet connection...
[00:43] <confuzed_> Gotta love betas!
[00:44] <confuzed_> superm1, thanks a ton... I will reinstall and just add vnc afterward.
[00:44] <superm1> confuzed_, good thing you caught me, no one else would have known that bug probably :)
[00:45] <confuzed_> superm1, actually... one other thing... is it fairly simple to configure diskless frontends if the backend is not running 8.04?
[00:45] <superm1> very difficult actually
[00:45] <superm1> well
[00:45] <superm1> which machine is the diskless erver?
[00:45] <superm1> that backend
[00:45] <superm1> or something else
[00:46] <confuzed_> my master backend would be.. but it's on 7.04...
[00:46] <laga> it's possible..
[00:46] <superm1> laga, dont tell him lies
[00:46] <superm1> you'll give him confidence
[00:46] <confuzed_> lol
[00:47] <laga> i think i posted some instructions on the forums, but it's totally unsupported
[00:47] <destructar> not sure if anyone is around from my last question so I'll repeat: I just reinstalled myth tv. running version 0.20, have a bunch of old recordings that it's not recognizing... I assume I need to fill the database's "recorded" table... not sure if there's an auto way to do this or if I need to write a script
[00:47] <superm1> yeah and to add to that, we give cookies to people that upgrade to 8.04 and test it there
[00:47] <laga> and you'll have to do it manually, in a terminal
[00:47] <laga> yes
[00:47] <laga> virtual cookies
[00:48] <confuzed_> I know it is possible... but past experiences with diskless left me frustrated... mostly because the only card I had would not boot from PXE (broken firmware)
[00:48] <laga> confuzed_: use etherboot
[00:48] <confuzed_> destructar, I had the same problem once... run a repair on your database... fixed mine
[00:49] <confuzed_> destructar, I'll try and remember the command
[00:49] <destructar> ok... i'll also search that. just an fyi: this is basically a clean reinstall so the database was completely wiped
[00:49] <laga> destructar: there's something.. myth.rebuilddatabase or similar
[00:50] <destructar> so running a repair will search the recordings directory and fill the db accordingly I assume?
[00:50] <confuzed_> destructar, it broke when you imported from previous?... did you update your db before you backed it up?
[00:50] <destructar> it's... complicated. I'm not entirely sure what happened.
[00:51] <destructar> i tried upgrading to 0.21 and it borked everything
[00:51] <destructar> so I removed everything and reinstalled several times to no avail... then found the auto backup from when I upgraded... restored that and everything worked again, albeit with an empty db for some reason
[00:51] <confuzed_> destructar, of course... that's why major versions are such a treat!
[00:51] <destructar> indeed
[00:52] <confuzed_> destructar, first check that the data is in the table... mine was
[00:52] <destructar> well i selected from the recorded table and it only has about 20 shows... the new stuff from the reinstall
[00:53] <confuzed_> Oh... hold on... you are looking for your previously recorded programs... but you dont have any data in the table... that's not good.
[00:53] <destructar> yea
[00:54] <destructar> they're all in the recordings folder but don't exist in the database thus they don't show up in the frontend
[00:54] <destructar> I'm getting ready to write a script that will fill the recordings table, but I'm not sure if that will screw things up and figured I see if someone already did the work for me
[00:54] <confuzed_> ahh... ok... there is a script for that, but it won't tell you what the show is or when it was recorded... it just adds the file to the DB if I remember correctly.
[00:55] <destructar> yuck
[00:55] <confuzed_> I wish you hadn't continued to use the system before you fixed this... the best solution would be to roll back to your backup, but if you do that you would lose your current stuff
[00:55] <destructar> is the info for recordings stored somewhere other than the db?
[00:56] <destructar> well the current stuff is only from today so not a big deal
[00:56] <destructar> however
[00:56] <confuzed_> destructar, nope... no metadata on the files that I am aware of... the filename has the station date and time in it though
[00:57] <destructar> the backup is the db that I already restored from the new install and when I did that it was as though it was a fresh db... no info in the tables, had to run all the setup steps anew etc.
[00:57] <confuzed_> destructar, then I would restore the old db backup again.
[00:57] <destructar> really? you don't think it will just give me another empty db?
[00:57] <confuzed_> wait, I am confused... the backup is not from your old setup?
[00:58] <destructar> it is... i know it doesn't make sense but that's how it went last night
[00:58] <confuzed_> oh... you mean you upgraded... and now your trying to go back but don't have the preupgrade db?
[00:58] <destructar> restored the backup from the old db which was created when I upgraded to 0.21... but apparently it gave me an empty db
[00:59] <destructar> before restoring the backup i truncated all tables of mythconverg db and then deleted the mythconverg db, and then created it and then restored the backup which was auto-created when i upgraded
[00:59] <destructar> I've no idea why it gave me an empty db upon restoration though... makes no sense
[01:00] <confuzed_> destructar, the database backup that was autocreated was done on your .20 db, before the upgrade right?
[01:01] <destructar> oh crap.. i'm looking at the backup right now... it's 16 lines of code
[01:01] <destructar> that's no good
[01:01] <destructar> lol
[01:01] <confuzed_> hmm
[01:01] <destructar> confuzed_: yes I thought so... now I don't think so lol
[01:01] <confuzed_> me either... unless they are 16 long lines... how large is the file
[01:02] <destructar> i think i just found the real backup... it's zipped
[01:02] <confuzed_> before restoring it make sure you are at the same or newer version number... IIRC there were a couple of DB upgrades during .20
[01:03] <destructar> ok this is it for sure
[01:03] <destructar> i see... anyway of checking this?
[01:04] <confuzed_> destructar, actually it shouldn't matter much... mythtv should upgrade it automatically if it's older... just make sure you have the latest .20 version from the repos
[01:04] <confuzed_> you just dont want to dump a newer db on an older .20 mythbackend
[01:04] <destructar> ok... have that for sure
[01:04] <destructar> right
[01:04] <destructar> also I'll back it up first :)
[01:05] <confuzed_> why... you got your backup all zipped up nice and neat
[01:05] <destructar> well just in case that one doesn't work out, i'll at least get back to a working database within seconds rather than forever
[01:05] <confuzed_> just don't record any shows until it's all squared away... wife units hate it when you lose thier shows ;-)
[01:06] <destructar> they also tend to hate mythtv
[01:06] <destructar> at least mine does
[01:06] <confuzed_> destructar, not mine... we've been on it for a couple of years now... she can't understand how people live without it.
[01:06] <destructar> actually... she just knows she hates my computer... not so much mythtv
[01:07] <confuzed_> lol... now that's a whole different story
[01:07] <ahave_zZZ> hello room.. can anyone offer me advice on a mythbuntu install? I get a 'low graphics' message and can not seem to get past that screen
[01:07] <destructar> running ubuntu and all... i've only been running this for about 1 or 2 months now and constantly working out kinks of course
[01:07] <ahave> graphics card is nvidia geforece 7050pv (integrated)
[01:08] <confuzed_> destructar, I seriously recommend giving the latest mythbuntu (beta) a try... it's a lot easier that .20 ever was.  especially if you can spare a new HD for testing it out.
[01:09] <destructar> actually i'm running mythbuntu right now but I think it's version .20 not a beta
[01:09] <confuzed_> ahave, I wish I could be of help... I am not sure what your issue is... did you install the binary nvidia drivers during setup... perhaps you didn't install the correct ones (there are 3 of them on 8.10 beta)
[01:10] <destructar> or am i totally wrong on this? i just decided to go with mythbuntu instead of regular old mythtv last night so I'm a little shaky on what version it is or how that works
[01:10] <confuzed_> destructar, know what... I'm confused... .20 isn't bad... .19 was the nightmare
[01:10] <ahave> confuzed_, how do i go about intalling the binary drivers during setup?
[01:11] <ahave> confuzed_, as soon as i try to run from the liveCD.. i get this message
[01:11] <destructar> ah i see
[01:11] <destructar> oh god... restored db... i'm nervous now
[01:11] <confuzed_> destructar, and not so much the software, but getting all of the elements (remote, tv-out, capture cards, etc..) working with it.  The last couple of mythbuntu releases have been a godsend.
[01:12] <destructar> i signed on at a good time then
[01:12] <confuzed_> ahave, ahh... so you never get the mythbuntu setup stuff?
[01:12] <destructar> sweet! restoration worked perfectly (it seems)... have my 40 or so simpsons episodes back
[01:13] <confuzed_> destructar, yeah... you did.... you should be golden after that restore
[01:13] <ahave> confuzed_, nope. i get the liveCD boot option screen.. then i select 'install', then it goes to a terminal screen, then the message screen
[01:13] <destructar> ouch... or not...
[01:13] <confuzed_> destructar, just make sure your videos are in the same path... sometimes you will see them in the sw, but not be able to play them
[01:13] <destructar> "recording unavailable"
[01:13] <confuzed_> destructar, see
[01:13] <destructar> ok weird... some are available some not
[01:14] <ahave> confuzed_, whenever i click 'continue' on the popup i go back to the terminal and it just sits there.. doing nothing
[01:14] <destructar> scratch that
[01:14] <confuzed_> ahave what kind of system are you on... sometimes you need to specify boot flags to get the cd to boot
[01:14] <destructar> they're all busted... yea checking path now
[01:14] <ahave> confuzed_, what do you mean? i can make it to the liveCD boot menu
[01:15] <confuzed_> destructar, also make sure that the permissions are set right
[01:15] <destructar> stupid question: where is the path set?
[01:16] <destructar> found it
[01:16] <confuzed_> ahave yep... if you press a key (forget which) it will display a boot prompt where you can type in additional boot flags... one minute I'll find a webpage to help you... also what kind of system is it?
[01:16] <destructar> mythtv-setup of course... and yea... it's set to my secondary hd... so now that I'm on 0.20 I can't actually use 2 hard drives can I?
[01:17] <ahave> confuzed_, thanks!  AMD 64 x2 in a biostar 7050pv.. which uses nvidia geforce 7 chipset
[01:18] <ahave> http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?item=N82E16813138061
[01:18] <ahave> ^^ mother board ^^
[01:19] <confuzed_> destructar, what do you mean can't use it... do you mean "can't have multiple storage locations"?
[01:20] <confuzed_> ahave, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-372429.html
[01:20] <confuzed_> ahave, press F6 at the bootsplash and enter the commands discussed... try one at a time until you get a clean boot
[01:22] <destructar> confuzed_: yes. I've got a completely fresh hd that I was planning to use for recordings and the other as storage (and os of course)
[01:22] <confuzed_> Also, as mentioned, a bad disk can cause some wierd problems... I have had bad downloads and bad burns give me nightmares.  Always run an MD5Sum on your iso before burning, and always have it verify your burn (burning at 2 or 4x can often ensure a better burn too.
[01:23] <confuzed_> destructar, simply mount your second HD whereever you wish to save your recordings.
[01:23] <confuzed_> destructar, of course you can only use one drive for recordings unless you get creative... but you can easily put all of your recordings on the second drive
[01:24] <destructar> yea that's what I was getting at: I have two hard drives... wanted to store long term shows on one hd and use the other as main recording hd... but be able to access both to watch shows
[01:24] <confuzed_> for example... if your recordings directory is in /var/mythtv/recordings... you could just "mount /dev/sdb1 /var/mythtv/recordings" in your /etc/fstab
[01:25] <Tuv0k> destructar, lvm+raid
[01:25] <confuzed_> destructar, yep what he said... lvm would get you where you want to go
[01:25] <confuzed_> destructar, it's not fun to fix when it breaks however
[01:25] <destructar> what about just aliasing a folder in the recordings directory and using that as a recoding group... or am i now being retarded?
[01:26] <confuzed_> did .20 have recording groups
[01:26] <confuzed_> er storage groups
[01:26] <destructar> no but it has recording groups... now that I think about it though you can't give them directories, just jobs i think
[01:27] <confuzed_> destructar, yep.. storage groups came with .21 iirc
[01:27] <destructar> oh no... playback groups not recording groups is what I was thinking of
[01:28] <destructar> hmm ok
[01:28] <destructar> i'll look in to lvm+raid
[01:29] <destructar> hooray [most] recordings are back!
[01:29] <destructar> thanks confuzed_
[01:30] <confuzed_> destructar, I would say that raid will be difficult to pull off unless you have a drive to backup to.
[01:30] <destructar> oh... one of those deals
[01:31] <destructar> screw that
[01:31] <confuzed_> destructar, I am pretty sure there is a way to accomplish what you want with lvm however... you might need to shrink one partition on your system drive, create a new partition there add the second drive and new parition to the VG, then move your data, then resize again... scary stuff without a backup
[01:31] <destructar> so here's a temp solution until I upgrade: what if I manually drag long term shows to the second hd and alias that folder in the videos directory? I already know that aliased folders work as I have this running for movies
[01:32] <destructar> only downside is I wouldn't have meta info i suppose
[01:32] <confuzed_> I don't think it works for recordings... just for movies
[01:32] <destructar> really? what's the difference?
[01:33] <confuzed_> when I say movies I mean videos... not recorded movies.
[01:33] <destructar> oh and btw: interlaced shows look like CRAP on my 1080p tv
[01:33] <Belboz91> Hey all, got a slight problem with using lirc as an IR transmitter, the channel change command runs fine, the ir sends, but nothing happens, any ideas?
[01:33] <destructar> so many lines... deinterlacing doesn't seem to work so well
[01:34] <confuzed_> When you record, it saves the recording to particular path, when you play it, the file needs to be there... I don't think you can set the path on a per-file basis.
[01:34] <confuzed_> destructar, deinterlace them first... use bob for best results.
[01:34] <Belboz91> using this irblaster: http://www.irblaster.info/ and a Motorolla DCT2224
[01:36] <confuzed_> destructar, but they still won't look spectacular... your scaling 480i (or about 240 lines / vertical refresh) to 1080 lines per vertical refresh.
[01:37] <confuzed_> Belboz91, If you don't get an answer here (I can't help sorry), I think LIRC has an IRC
[01:38] <destructar> where on earth do you set deinterlacing? i thought I already did this under frontend->setup->tv settings->playback
[01:38] <destructar> but I'm not seeing it anymore
[01:38] <Belboz91> cool, thanks confuzed_
[01:38] <destructar> nm found it
[01:38] <destructar> geez i'm blind (sorry)
[01:39] <Belboz91> confuzed_: 4 people in the room :-P
[01:39] <destructar> anyone recommend good custom filters ?
[01:40] <destructar> confuzed_ deinterlacing made things much better... sad thing is I already knew all about it but didn't have it set because I'm too blind to see the setting
[01:42] <ahave> how much of a diffrence is there between ubuntu 7.10 with mythtv installed afterwards and mythbuntu?
[01:43] <confuzed_> ahave, actually not much once your up an running.... if your a new user, and your building a dedicated mythtv setup, go with the 8.10 beta cd (just don't enable VNC until setup is done)
[01:44] <ahave> the 8.10 mythbuntu beta?
[01:44] <ahave> i am just wondering if i would not have this grahics issue if i installed ubuntu first
[01:45] <ahave> this post seems to have the exact same case: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=679366
[01:45] <ahave> and they recomended to just intsall ubuntu 7.10 first
[01:46] <confuzed_> ahave, 8.10 fixed a bunch of issues I had with my video card... but they are all post-install issues.
[01:46] <ahave> what card do you use?
[01:47] <confuzed_> ahave, an Nvidia fx5200... but the nvidia drivers in 7.10 didn't support 1080i very well so that was the big fix for me
[01:50] <ahave> confuzed_, about those boot commands... do i just add "boot: linux noapic" to the end of the string that comes up?
[01:51] <confuzed_> if the line already starts with linux or something than no... just add the noapic option... if it's just a boot: prompt then yes type linux noapic
[01:52] <ahave> ok, so i could just add.. "noapic pci=irgroute " ... etc
[01:52] <ahave> all the commands listed with spaces inbetween
[01:53] <destructar> ok last issue I think: how to get rid of crazy line crap at top of the screen? isn't this just the overscan settings that need to be adjusted?
[02:00] <confuzed_> ahave, I would try one at a time until it works... some of them disable valuable features
[02:01] <confuzed_> destructar, yep... or you can adjust the zoom on your set...
[02:02] <confuzed_> destructar, but with a 1080p set I would leave it on native and adjust the overscan within mythtv or by using nvidia-settings.
[02:03] <destructar> yea ended up only having to increase vertical from 0 to 1
[02:04] <destructar> although some non-hd is still about 50 pixels black on top and bottom...
[02:04] <confuzed_> yeah... it's annoying sometimes
[02:04] <destructar> and of course black bars to the left and right... in other words not stretched or zoomed
[02:05] <destructar> any setting to easily detect this?
[02:05] <confuzed_> I can't remember in .20
[02:05] <confuzed_> I am sure there is something
[02:06] <destructar> btw had to change to kernel for deintelace
[02:06] <destructar> bob made the screen shake
[02:09] <npurciful> hey superm1 you there
[02:09] <laga> no ;)
[02:10] <npurciful> heh
[02:12] <npurciful> hey laga what flavor are you using?
[02:12] <destructar> ok i'm outta here... thanks for help all
[02:12] <abarbaccia> strawberry swirl
[02:13] <laga> i had some "cookies & cream" häagen dazs earlier
[02:13] <abarbaccia> i just actually had cold stone
[02:13] <abarbaccia> mmmm - soooo bad for you tho
[02:14] <npurciful> err, i meant myth/k/x/ubuntu
[02:14] <laga> 'cold stone'? is that something you smoke in crack pipes?
[02:14] <abarbaccia> hahaha its a ice cream chain that makes VERY VERY fattening ice cream which tastes amazing
[02:14] <laga> ah, didnt know that :)
[02:15] <frank23> Can a diskless slave backend running the live cd be used for transcoding? Does it need to mount a nfs drive or does the mythtv protocol take care of the file transfers?
[02:15] <laga> transcoding needs nfs mounts
[02:15] <npurciful> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_Stone_Creamery
[02:15] <frank23> laga: mount at /var/lib/mythtv ?
[02:16] <laga> frank23: you gotta configure the backend accordingly
[02:16] <laga> on the live disk
[02:16] <frank23> laga: can the mythbuntu control centre configure the nfs mount?
[02:17] <laga> frank23: on the client? i dont think so.. the live disk has a special tool to configure stuff, maybe you can use that.
[02:17] <laga> npurciful: "In the spirit of joviality, and to encourage customers to give tips, Cold Stone instructs employees to sing a Cold Stone song, usually to the tune of recognizable melodies such as "Take Me Out to the Ball Game" or "Bingo,""
[02:18] <laga> npurciful: sounds like that kind of job where you shoot yourself after having worked there for one day
[02:18] <abarbaccia> hahahah my sister worked there for like a month - and she had to quit because of that
[02:19] <laga> heh
[02:19] <laga> they'd make me leave before that.. my singing is horrible
[02:21] <npurciful> heh, would
[02:21] <npurciful> shoot my self if i worked there
[02:22] <npurciful> crap need to reboot, but i have 3 tuners going. playing the waiting game
[02:22]  * laga recommends ice cream to kill time
[02:24] <confuzed_> reboots are for the weak.... and windows users
[02:25] <ahave> confuzed_, any more ideas if the boot options are not working?
[02:25] <confuzed_> ahave burn a new CD
[02:25] <ahave> i am download ubuntu 7.10 now
[02:25] <confuzed_> double check that your download matches the md5 hash posted on the website
[02:25] <ahave> instead of mythbuntu
[02:25] <ahave> ok
[02:26] <confuzed_> I have had similar problems and that's all it was, a corrupted download
[02:26] <ahave> would a CD check not catch them?
[02:26] <ahave> normally nvidia is supported, correct?
[02:26] <confuzed_> a cd check would most likely catch them
[02:27] <npurciful> confuzed_: ugh i am testing grub
[02:27] <confuzed_> yes nvidia is supported... but sometimes there are issues with machines, especially laptops, that require the disabling of some hardware detection or configuration options at boot... especially apic and acpi
[02:28] <ahave> this is on a mico ATX MB
[02:28] <ahave> however it does say something about "checking battery..." when loading some daemon in the beginning
[02:28] <confuzed_> ahave, shouldn't matter... most computers use standard equip... but sometimes they use combinations that cause problems
[02:29] <confuzed_> ahave, I think all machines say that now... it's determining if there is a battery
[02:29] <ahave> ah,ok
[02:29] <ahave> it seems to load a few lines all with [OK] at the end.. then the screen flashes slowly 4 times
[02:29] <confuzed_> Nowadays there is little difference between laptops and desktops... most laptops have taken to putting special devices on the usb bus
[02:30] <ahave> on the 4th time is comes up saying ubuntu is running in low graphics mode
[02:30] <confuzed_> have you tried pressing ctrl-F1 or ctrl-F2
[02:30] <ahave> confuzed_, yes. and i was able to upt-get nvidia drivers
[02:30] <ahave> and restart the xserver-conf
[02:30] <ahave> but after that i have no idea what to do
[02:31] <ahave> i get a warning saying i am writing to the conf file, and a backup will be saved.. but i am just left at the terminal
[02:31] <ahave> should i try 'startX' after that?
[02:31] <confuzed_> ahh ok... I thought your problem was at boot time not in starting X
[02:31] <confuzed_> yeah try a startx... or xorg
[02:32] <ahave> no, it boots somewhat.. just doesnt take me to the typical liveCD desktop
[02:33] <confuzed_> sounds to me like the OpenSource drivers don't support that card very well... is it a very new card?
[02:36] <ahave> not really...
[02:36] <ahave> http://www.biostar.com.tw/app/en-us/t-series/content.php?S_ID=182
[02:36] <ahave> using integrated video
[02:36] <ahave> confuzed_, i seem to be able to start X now..
[02:38] <ahave> 15GB enough for a frontend/backend install?
[02:38] <confuzed_> ahave, great... during install make sure to install the nvidia binary drivers if you can
[02:39] <ahave> confuzed_, how do i do that during the install? running a terminal _before_ i click 'install' and doing apt-get?
[02:39] <confuzed_> ahave, if you don't intend to store many shows... I have about 400gb full... so in my case no way
[02:39] <ahave> i have a seperate HD for storage
[02:39] <confuzed_> ahave, if your using the mythbuntu cd, it should give you the option
[02:39] <confuzed_> ahave, then yes... 15GB is more than enough
[02:40] <ahave> and what filesystem is suggested? et3 ok for just OS files?
[02:40] <ahave> no large files will be stored
[02:41] <confuzed_> yeah ext3 is best for os... arguably
[02:42] <ahave> partition type? what is diff between primary and logical?
[02:43] <confuzed_> ahave, your boot partition must be a primary... logicals are only necessary if your going to have more than 4 parititions on a single drive
[02:43] <ahave> what if i have a dual boot with xp, vista, and mythbuntu?
[02:43] <ahave> or would that be a triboot..
[02:43] <confuzed_> Standard partition tables support 4 primary partitions, and someone decided that wasn't enough so extended parititions with logical drives were born
[02:44] <confuzed_> ahave, then I would put it on a 3rd primary partition.... in order to boot, it must be on a primary partition.
[02:45] <ahave> ah,ok. thanks
[02:45] <confuzed_> ahave, I would just call it a multiboot system.
[02:46] <confuzed_> ahave, keep in mind though, that installing any windows os after you install linux will prevent you from booting linux... grub, the bootloader, gets overwritten by windows bootloader
[02:46] <confuzed_> ahave, you can reinstall grub, but it's a nightmare
[02:47] <confuzed_> ahave, for a newbie anyway
[02:47] <ahave> hmm
[02:47] <ahave> well xp is already on..
[02:47] <ahave> i just set aside 50GB for a vista boot if i can find a copy to try it out.. ( i heard it was only worthwhile for the media center)
[02:48] <ahave> should i avoid enabling VNC on the install?
[02:48] <confuzed_> ahave, just remember that once you install it, you will probably need to go back in and reinstall grub... there are tons of guides... and who knows maybe vista plays nice (doubt it)
[02:48] <confuzed_> ahave, only if your installing 8.04
[02:49] <ahave> confuzed_, ok
[02:54] <ahave> confuzed_, thanks alot for your help
[02:54] <confuzed_> ahave, no problem... get everything set up ok?
[02:54] <ahave> as far as i know.. 77% installed thus far
[02:54] <confuzed_> kewl... hope it all works for ya!
[02:55] <ahave> i just put in that i had needed a nvidia_new driver.. thanks!
[02:55] <confuzed_> that ought to do it.
[02:57] <ahave> can i hold off an setting up a schedules direct account?
[02:57] <ahave> i want to make sure mythtv is fully working before starting my 7day countdown trial
[02:59] <Belboz91> hey, are there any bugs with compiling lirc on hardy?
[02:59] <confuzed_> you can... but you won't get listings data
[02:59] <Belboz91> I'm getting some rather strange make ouptut
[02:59] <Belboz91> output*
[03:00] <Belboz91> this thread has the same output, but I don't understand what they're discussing: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kernel-team/2007-December/001951.html
[03:01] <Belboz91> I guess it's incompatible with the latest hardy kernel?
[03:02] <confuzed_> Belboz91, I can't imagine that it is... I use it with my mythbuntu 8.10 beta install... fully patched... but it might not compile?
[03:03] <Belboz91> confuzed_: right, it doesn't compile, it runs fine precompiled though
[03:04] <confuzed_> Belboz91, did you download the sources from the repository or from LIRC's website
[03:06] <confuzed_> You could also try and apply the patch discussed in that thread... though I don't know what version of the lirc source they are made for
[03:37] <confuzed_> Anyone know why I am being told that I cannot install all updates on 8.04... it's telling me I have to do a partial UPGRADE... almost like it wants to do a Dist-Upgrade
[03:38] <destructar> i'm back :) anyone know a good guide for using apple remote control with mythbuntu using a HDHomeRun device?
[03:38] <destructar> having a bit of a time with this...
[03:40] <confuzed_> destructar, welcome back... sorry don't know a thing about using the apple remote with mythtv... yet... the wife won't let me put the mini in the entertainment center
[03:40] <destructar> :)
[03:41] <confuzed_> Why is my freshly installed Mythbuntu 8.04 trying to do a Dist Ugrade when I run Update Manager?
[03:41] <confuzed_> anyone?
[03:42] <destructar> confuzed_: I have two of these suckers laying around (remotes)... supposedly you can configure lirc file (or something... i know next to nothing on this subject) with hdhomerun to control mythtv
[03:43] <confuzed_> I am sure you can.. LIRC will let you use almost any IR device... but as for how, I can't tell you.
[03:43] <destructar> yea... neither can google. at least not very well... or at least not for newbs to lirc
[03:43] <confuzed_> what'
[03:44] <confuzed_> oops... what's the HDHomeRun have to do with the remote?
[03:44] <destructar> hdhomerun has an ir receiver built in
[03:45] <destructar> receiver uses something with lirc... or something :) i'm pretty much completely ignorant in this area
[03:46] <destructar> they have a nice guide here: http://www.silicondust.com/wiki/hdhomerun/instructions/mythtv but I'm totally confused as to why it won't work for me
[03:46] <destructar> i read something else stating that you have to set up mythtv for lirc packets but I don't know how
[04:06] <confuzed_> Why is my freshly installed Mythbuntu 8.04 trying to do a Dist Ugrade when I run Update Manager?  Anyone?
[04:07] <superm1> because some updates can't be resolved unless you do a partial upgrade
[04:07] <superm1> which is why the partial upgrade tool is in place
[04:08] <confuzed_> but I am running 8.04... why would it do a dist-upgrade?
[04:08] <confuzed_> it's not even released yet
[04:09] <superm1> it's just how it works :)
[04:10] <confuzed_> ok... so when it says that some packages cannot be upgraded it's ok then?... I've never seen it do partial upgrades before
[04:10] <superm1> yeah it usually will resolve itself in a few hours
[04:10] <superm1> as mirrors sync
[04:10] <superm1> and bits fly
[04:10] <superm1> and stuff like that
[04:11] <confuzed_> ahhh... ok that makes sense... so I may as well wait for a while instead of doing it right away then.
[04:12] <superm1> well it can happen with packages later too
[04:12] <superm1> so it doesnt hurt to do it now
[04:12] <superm1> andthen again later
[04:12] <superm1> and possibly again later+1 :)
[04:22] <destructar_> ok I have my apple remote working with lirc which is good
[04:22] <destructar_> doesn't control mythtv which is bad
[04:24] <confuzed_> lol
[04:25] <confuzed_> you need to edit your .lircrc file in your mythtv users home directory
[04:25] <destructar_> ah i see
[04:25] <confuzed_> it should also be symlinked to ~/.mythtv/lircrc
[04:25] <destructar_> ouch... file doesn't exist
[04:26] <destructar_> are you referring to the lircd.conf file?
[04:26] <confuzed_> are you running mythbuntu?
[04:26] <destructar_> yes
[04:26] <confuzed_> no lircd.conf is not the same.
[04:26] <confuzed_> Open the mythbuntu control center... it has options to create the file
[04:27] <destructar_> "enable a remote control" right?
[04:28] <destructar_> ah i see cool...
[04:29] <destructar_> and there's the file :)
[04:30] <destructar_> confuzed_: ok so I'm editing the file... what next?
[04:39] <confuzed_> destructar_, sorry... you figuring it out yet?
[04:40] <confuzed_> good guide here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallLirc/Hardy
[04:41] <destructar_> yes-ish... upon enabling the remote via mythbuntu it blewout my lircd.conf file and replaced it with it's own
[04:41] <destructar_> so when enabling lirc to work with udp and testing with irw nothing would work
[04:41] <confuzed_> yeah... it does that... but if you selected the right remote in mythbuntu, it should work... you might need to tweak it a bit
[04:42] <foxbuntu> destructar_, your original lircd.conf should have been backed up
[04:42] <destructar_> so i replaced conf file with mine agin, made lircd run in udp mode and irw now works on command line... however not with mythtv still.
[04:42] <confuzed_> if not, follow that guide and you can fully customize it to your desires
[04:42] <foxbuntu> destructar_, I maintain the mythbuntu-lircrc-generator script
[04:42] <destructar_> ok cool
[04:43] <destructar_> so I have my conf file that I generated with irrecord and the controller works fine with this
[04:43] <foxbuntu> destructar_, here is what you can do, with your lird.conf in place, run mythbuntu-lircrc-generator
[04:43] <destructar_> ok
[04:43] <foxbuntu> then restart mythfrontend
[04:43] <foxbuntu> and it should all work
[04:43] <confuzed_> essentially their are 2 parts... lircd.conf labels the ir codes with names (up down etc...) and lirc.rc configures the keyboard mappings for those buttons in individual apps
[04:43] <foxbuntu> confuzed_, .lircrc
[04:44] <foxbuntu> :)
[04:44] <confuzed_> oh yeah
[04:44] <destructar_> that's what I was starting to realize just didn't know how to create the lircrc file correctly
[04:44] <destructar_> cool  script ran without problems testing front end
[04:44] <confuzed_> foxbuntu, question... why doesn't my remote config have repeats on it?
[04:44] <foxbuntu> destructar_, m-l-g I mentioned before will auto create it
[04:45] <destructar_> crap controller still fails on frontend
[04:45] <foxbuntu> destructar_, try this
[04:45] <destructar_> anything special you have to do to enable mythtv lirc with udp?
[04:45] <confuzed_> destructar_, did you restart mythfrontend
[04:45] <destructar_> yes
[04:45] <foxbuntu> sudo /etc/init.d/lircd restart
[04:46] <foxbuntu> confuzed_, you create the remote with MCC?
[04:46] <confuzed_> destructar_, if IRW sees the button presses, I can't see why you would need to do anything else in your lircrc
[04:46] <confuzed_> foxbuntu, yep.... it works... just no repeats where I would expect... up down and whatnot
[04:47] <destructar_> i'm using hdhomerun which has an IR sensor and uses udp with lirc
[04:47] <foxbuntu> confuzed_, by default we don't do repeats because its effect is different on different remotes
[04:47] <confuzed_> foxbuntu, it's no big deal, I know how to add them... but I'm just suprised... and the "back" button on my remote isn't mapped... but no biggie
[04:48] <foxbuntu> confuzed_, what is the name of the "back" button in your lircd.conf?
[04:48] <confuzed_> foxbuntu, I've never used a default config anyway... I like to really tweak my remotes to my liking
[04:48] <confuzed_> one sec
[04:48] <destructar_> crap still not working in front end
[04:48] <destructar_> so here's the thing... using hdhomerun instructions, after having conf file in place (and now lircrc file) i run this: lircd -H udp -d 5000
[04:48] <destructar_> and then irw
[04:49] <confuzed_> foxbuntu, "Back"... its the mceusb
[04:49] <destructar_> and button presses register in terminal, but not in mythtv frontend
[04:49] <foxbuntu> confuzed_, strange...I use the MCE as well mine works fine
[04:49] <foxbuntu> destructar_, strange really
[04:49] <destructar_> foxbuntu: using apple remote, does that make a difference?
[04:50] <foxbuntu> destructar_, do this: ls ~/.mythtv/
[04:50] <foxbuntu> is there anything in there for lirc
[04:50] <confuzed_> foxbuntu, doesn't he need to add those options to the lircd.conf file so it starts with the udp settings?
[04:50] <destructar_> ~/.mythtv/lircrc exists
[04:50] <confuzed_> destructar_, there should be a .lircrc that is symlinked to ~/.lircrc
[04:51] <confuzed_> do an ls -al ~/.mythtv/
[04:51] <destructar_> doesn't seem to by a symlink to ~/.lircrc
[04:51] <foxbuntu> confuzed_, no, the symlink is not there
[04:51] <destructar_> yea it's not a symlink
[04:51] <foxbuntu> thats the real file
[04:52] <destructar_> correct
[04:52] <foxbuntu> destructar_, you need to change the hardware.conf
[04:52] <confuzed_> foxbuntu, not on mine...
[04:52] <confuzed_> tv@tv:~$ ls -al ~/.mythtv/lircrc
[04:52] <confuzed_> lrwxrwxrwx 1 tv tv 15 2008-03-26 23:36 /home/tv/.mythtv/lircrc -> ../.lirc/mythtv
[04:53] <confuzed_> interesting... it's not even linked where I thought it was
[04:53] <foxbuntu> confuzed_, oh your right, its been awhile since I wrote that part :)
[04:53] <destructar_> foxbuntu: what do i need to change in it?
[04:53] <foxbuntu> destructar_, sudo nano /etc/lirc/hardware.conf
[04:53] <foxbuntu> destructar_, I need to look the changes up, give me a min
[04:54] <destructar_> is this accurate?
[04:54] <destructar_> http://www.backports.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=677600
[04:54] <destructar_> (i'm using vim, but am already editing :) )
[04:55] <confuzed_> foxbuntu, I have another question for you.... I have the SMK reciever for my mceusb... it seems to respond (light flashes) for any remote I point at it.... can I use any remote I want with it, or does it only generate codes for the remote that came with it... the RC6ir
[04:55] <foxbuntu> destructar_, yeah, the changes in the first post to the hardware.conf is what you need
[04:56] <foxbuntu> confuzed_, any remote will work as long as you have the codes, what I did was use my MCE remote and get a Universal that can learn codes and taught it my MCE codes
[04:56] <foxbuntu> then I didn't have to change lirc
[04:57] <confuzed_> foxbuntu, but lirc doesn't care about the codes, I can use irrecord or whatever it's called to pull the codes can't I?
[04:57] <foxbuntu> sure..just telling you what I did
[04:58] <foxbuntu> if your comfortable with irrecord then any old remote will work
[04:58] <foxbuntu> (I actually have that SMK receiver as well)
[04:58] <destructar_> ok so this time upon restarting lirc i was able to test remote with irw instantly (so lircd_args worked)
[04:58] <destructar_> but still doesn't work in front end
[04:58] <confuzed_> destructar_, because the lircrc in .mythtv is incorrect
[04:59] <destructar_> that guy posts his solution at the end of the thread "You have to go into the MythTV setup and hunt down the IR Remote setup and tell Myth to listen for the lircd packets. That was the step I was missing. Enable it in mythtv."
[04:59] <foxbuntu> destructar_, pastebin your lircd.conf
[04:59] <confuzed_> destructar_, go into ~/.mythtv/
[04:59] <confuzed_> and type ln -s yourLircrcFile ./lircrc -f
[05:00] <foxbuntu> confuzed_, mythtv looks for both
[05:00] <confuzed_> this will create a link from ~/.mythtv/lircrc to the file you created for mythtv
[05:00] <destructar_> "ln: `lircrc' and `./lircrc' are the same file"
[05:00] <confuzed_> but he has one in the mythtv folder... it will override the other won't it?
[05:01] <foxbuntu> confuzed_, you can't symlink at the same directory
[05:01] <destructar_> right...
[05:01] <confuzed_> destructar_, where did you create your lircrc file?
[05:01] <destructar_> well mythbuntu auto-created it in ~/.mythtv/lircrc
[05:01] <confuzed_> or should I ask, foxbuntu, where does the script place the file
[05:02] <confuzed_> destructar_, are you sure it's the one the script created (not the one mcc created)
[05:02] <destructar_> pretty sure... i can delete it and rerun script i suppose
[05:02] <foxbuntu> confuzed_, it should create one in ~/.mythtv/lircrc with a symlink --> ~/.lirc/mythtv
[05:02] <confuzed_> destructar_, also, check the file and ensure that the names used for the buttons are the same as the labels assigned to them in your lircd.conf
[05:03] <confuzed_> destructar_, I'm not sure where you got the lircd.conf (or if you made it yourself) but the script may make some assumptions that are not true... foxbuntu?
[05:04] <foxbuntu> confuzed_, if you only saw the dictionary I wrote :)
[05:04] <foxbuntu> there are like 25 variations of Play
[05:04] <confuzed_> lol I can only imagine... I do have to say though, remote setup is so much better now than even a year ago
[05:05] <foxbuntu> confuzed_, you wont even recongize it after I finish Mythbuntu Remote Manager next dev cycle
[05:05] <destructar_> deleted and re-ran script
[05:05] <destructar_> it created 3 entries for buttons, labels are correct... should have been 6 buttons though
[05:06] <foxbuntu> destructar_, the dictionary doesnt work for all buttons
[05:06] <destructar_> going to manually add the rest
[05:06] <destructar_> i see
[05:06] <destructar_> it should work with just these 3 for now right?
[05:06] <destructar_> play, ffwd, menu
[05:07] <foxbuntu> there are so many I can't add to the dictionary because of their effects
[05:07] <foxbuntu> destructar_, yup
[05:08] <destructar_> ok it's working now
[05:08] <destructar_> i found the issue ... and now i feel like a complete idiot
[05:08] <destructar_> apparently the remote doesn't work in the menu... just during play back
[05:08] <confuzed_> I would love to see how you can possibly use mythtv with a 6 button remote.... I have a 20?, 30? and it's still not enough
[05:08] <destructar_> yea i doubt it will last :)
[05:08] <confuzed_> destructar_, you need to customize it some... it will work in the menu
[05:09] <destructar_> i planned on using my tivo remote but gave my tivo away
[05:09] <foxbuntu> destructar_, yeah..play ffwd and menu are playback options in the dictionary
[05:09] <confuzed_> destructar_, in mythfrontend setup, you can customize the controls... just set your right left up and down equal to the same letters passed by the remote.
[05:10] <destructar_> cool will do
[05:10] <destructar_> thanks for all the help
[05:10] <confuzed_> destructar_, no problem
[05:10] <confuzed_> foxbuntu, you rock... keep up the great work!
[05:10] <destructar_> i'm off to sleep. later
[05:11] <foxbuntu> confuzed_, thanks. I promiss MRM is going to change the way you look at lirc :)
[05:12] <confuzed_> I believe you... compared to what I went through a couple of years ago when I had just started with mythtv, it's already 1000x better... but I can see how it might get even better.
[05:13] <confuzed_> foxbuntu, just curious, I've never used lirc to control a device, but I think I might like to... how do you record the signals that you want to send to the device... for example can I record the power button from my tv remote then send it when I press power my my mythtv remote?
[05:15] <foxbuntu> confuzed_, well, you could use an irblaster for something like that
[05:15] <foxbuntu> but it would take allot of work it get that doing what you want
[05:15] <confuzed_> foxbuntu, the SMK has one afaik... but I was just curious how you learned the codes
[05:16] <foxbuntu> what do you mean: "..how I learned the codes"
[05:17] <confuzed_> how one learns the codes to send to the devices you wish to control.  for example, I want to use an IRBlaster to control the volume on my stero... how do I know which codes to send... can I learn them from the stereo's remote?
[05:21] <foxbuntu> should be able to with irrecord
[05:21] <foxbuntu> and create a file called stero_remote.conf
[05:22] <foxbuntu> then in your lircd.cond add the line: include /etc/lirc/stero_remote.conf (for example)
[05:22] <confuzed_> kewl... I figured it was something like that... that's my next project... I am tired of using two remotes.
[05:24] <foxbuntu> then you can follow the setup procedures for the the irblaster, create a quick bash script that use the irblaster just like mythtv does as an external tuner except when it receives those signals the lircrc will use the script to turn the volume up or whatever
[05:24] <foxbuntu> it will be a little work...but it can be done
[05:42] <MythbuntuGuest45> in your opinion what is the best card..i was looking at the hauppage 350
[05:42] <MythbuntuGuest45> don't need hd
[05:43] <foxbuntu> MythbuntuGuest45, the 150MCE is pretty good
[05:43] <foxbuntu> easier to deal with in Myth as well
[05:44] <MythbuntuGuest45> i would have to software decode correct
[05:44] <Tuv0k> pvr 250 or pvr500
[05:45] <foxbuntu> the 150MCE has hardware decoding as well
[05:45] <Tuv0k> you do NOT want software decoding
[05:45] <MythbuntuGuest45> ok, so 150mce pvr250 or pvr500 are best bets
[05:46] <MythbuntuGuest45> thanks
[05:48] <confuzed_> foxbuntu, the 150MCE is hw encode only isn't it?
[05:49] <foxbuntu> confuzed_, yeah I think so
[05:49] <foxbuntu> I use 2 of them
[05:51] <confuzed_> Oh... you guys kept saying decode, not encode... I hope he didn't get confused.. the 500 is the only decoder/encoder I think
[05:52] <confuzed_> oops... I mean 350
[05:52] <foxbuntu> oh man, Im so tired I didnt even notice
[05:52] <confuzed_> or something... one of them had a hardware mpeg decoder
[05:53] <confuzed_> I'm going digital soon so I don't care anymore
[05:58] <foxbuntu> digital is nice :)
[06:03] <pcglue> The /var/lib partition on my mythtv box became full and got corrupted.  It's XFS filesystem and I can't mount it.  Seems like I get hardware errors when I try to mount it (http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6125/).  Is there anything I should try before trying xfs_repair?
[06:04] <pcglue> *I should try before...
[06:11] <foxbuntu> pcglue, google for and download Drive Fitness Test
[06:12] <foxbuntu> its a tool from Hitachi that will tell you if its hardware or not
[06:15] <pcglue> thanks foxbuntu, I'll give that a try
[07:23] <KillerKiwi2005> totem dosnt list my mythtv recordings is there something i need to do?
[07:29] <superm1> KillerKiwi2005, you might need to add your info into gconf-editor
[07:29] <superm1> and make sure the plugin is enabled in totem
[07:30] <KillerKiwi2005> ahhh... any instructions some where on doing that?
[07:30] <superm1> i dont think i've written any yet
[07:30] <superm1> there is a picture on mythbuntu.org though
[07:30] <superm1> that will show you where in gconf-editor to change
[07:30] <KillerKiwi2005> no ui ?
[07:31] <superm1> it wasn't in place for this version yet i believe
[07:31] <superm1> there is experimental upnp support that wasn't added in
[07:31] <superm1> which makes the UI pointless
[07:32] <KillerKiwi2005> yeah i was wondaring...
[07:33] <KillerKiwi2005> whats the file with the mysql un/pw ....
[07:33] <superm1> /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt
[07:33] <KillerKiwi2005> lol my passwords 1234 ...
[07:34] <KillerKiwi2005> well that made totem stall a bit....
[07:35] <KillerKiwi2005> ** (totem:17839): DEBUG: FAMILY: 2, TYPE: 1, PROTOCOL: 6
[07:36] <KillerKiwi2005> repeat for ever...
[07:36] <superm1> yeah it reading the recordings list from sql right now?
[07:36] <superm1> it takes a few sec
[07:36] <KillerKiwi2005> maybe it is a large list
[07:37] <KillerKiwi2005> there it is... that took a while
[07:37] <KillerKiwi2005> must be the thumbnails...
[07:38] <KillerKiwi2005> well it works.. no dast foward though...
[07:38] <KillerKiwi2005> fast
[07:39] <KillerKiwi2005> problably best to stick with mythfrontend...
[12:54] <destructar> hi all. I've got an issue with hd content playing in mythtv
[12:54] <destructar> it runs in slow motion and without audio... this is hd content only. I recorded a small amount and played it back outside of mythtv with VLC and it runs perfectly
[12:55] <destructar> my guess is that the player mythtv uses can't handle HD content for some reason... although this is either a recent problem or doesn't happen on all shows
[12:56] <destructar> because I've recorded Lost in the past and it played back fine, as did other hd content. in fact some shows on pbs hd were playing just fine yesterday
[12:57] <destructar> and what do you know... just now flipping through channels I get a writeaudo buffer underrun error and mythtv front end crashes
[13:01] <destructar> problem solved: enabled "extra audio buffering"
[14:43] <rhpot1991_laptop> anyone here using mythrename.pl?
[14:48] <superm1> i used to
[14:48] <superm1> havent set it up on new backend though
[14:48] <rhpot1991_laptop> superm1: do you have any old recordings left?
[14:49] <rhpot1991_laptop> I'm looking for verification that basename in the recorded table actually points at them
[14:49] <superm1> you mean like what does the symlink poit to?
[14:49] <rhpot1991_laptop> oh does that symlink?
[14:49] <rhpot1991_laptop> I assumed it actually renamed them
[14:49] <laga> superm1: i've been thinking about runningn it by default on mythbuntu.. only in symlink mode, though
[14:49] <laga> you can make it do symlinks only, yes
[14:50] <superm1> lrwxrwxrwx 1 mythtv mythtv 57 2008-03-09 16:30 How I Met Your Mother - 2008-02-25, 7-00 PM - Spoiler Alert.mpg -> /media/mythtv/recordings/mythdell/2843_20080225190000.mpg
[14:50] <superm1> to its to an explicit path
[14:50] <rhpot1991_laptop> can it also rename?
[14:50] <laga> yes
[14:50] <superm1> i wouldnt let it if it could
[14:50] <superm1> too much chance for breaking other $stuff..
[14:50]  * laga is scared of unicode issues.
[14:50] <superm1> yeah. exactly
[14:50] <laga> i really shouldn't be.. but it'd such a PITA to get working again, so i just wont do it
[14:50] <rhpot1991_laptop> superm1: what is the basename in the recorded table for that?
[14:50] <laga> it would be*
[14:51] <laga> rhpot1991_laptop: yeah, it uses the basename
[14:51] <superm1>  /media/mythtv/recordings/mythdell
[14:51] <rhpot1991_laptop> so so the basename would point at the 2843_2008....mpg still?
[14:51] <superm1> yeah
[14:51] <rhpot1991_laptop> ok good
[14:51] <laga> rhpot1991_laptop: if it renames, the basename is changed
[14:51] <rhpot1991_laptop> excelent
[14:51] <laga> if it symlinks, the basename is unchanged
[14:51] <rhpot1991_laptop> gonna start pulling from there instead
[14:52] <superm1> rhpot1991, you might want to try mythtvfs though
[14:52] <superm1> that's what i'm gonna switch to when i remember to do so
[14:52] <laga> a file system relying on mysql?
[14:52] <laga> sounds scary ;)
[14:53] <rhpot1991_laptop> superm1: well this is for mythexport, cause I have seen some people telling me they had a user script to modify files and then it didn't find their recording, cause it builds that name from the channel, time, etc
[14:53] <laga> the clock on me BE is drifty.. i just installed ntpd to work around that
[14:53] <superm1> ah yeah.
[14:53] <rhpot1991_laptop> this way I can point them at mythrename.pl and say use that and everything will work out
[14:54] <rhpot1991_laptop> ntpd isn't installed by default?
[14:54] <superm1> ok let me upload vlc and get goin
[14:54] <superm1> cya guys
[14:54] <laga> rhpot1991_laptop: i think so, but not on that old box
[14:54] <rhpot1991_laptop> cya
[14:54] <laga> i used to have it installed, so i dunno why it's gonna now
[14:54] <laga> gone*
[14:54] <rhpot1991_laptop> ah ok
[14:54] <laga> "See the link in my signature to find out how to provide log files."
[14:55] <laga> i think it was worth the time to write that "how to get help" thread ;)
[14:55] <laga> i need to link to your faq, too
[14:56] <rhpot1991_laptop> where is this thread?
[14:56] <rhpot1991_laptop> ah there it is
[14:57] <laga> feel free to add stuff in a posting, i'll merge it then..
[14:57] <laga> although some things belong to the FAQ
[14:57] <rhpot1991_laptop> the fAQs wiki seems to be working out well
[14:57] <laga> cool
[14:57] <rhpot1991_laptop> have had a few random additions to it
[14:57] <rhpot1991_laptop> tgm4883 ping
[14:57] <tgm4883> pong
[14:58] <rhpot1991_laptop> did you verify your storage groups are ok?
[14:58] <laga> i'm sick and tired of people who need to be asked five questions just to get them to provide enough information
[14:58] <tgm4883> heh, no, forgot.  Went and had dinner and forgot
[14:58] <tgm4883> i'll check today though
[14:58] <tgm4883> in a few hours
[14:58] <rhpot1991_laptop> alright just let me know
[14:58] <rhpot1991_laptop> it might actually be a bug
[14:58] <rhpot1991_laptop> so if they are I'll throw a new version somewhere for you to test
[15:00] <tgm4883> actually i suppose I can check in phpmyadmin
[15:01] <rhpot1991_laptop> eh no hurry
[15:02] <pdragon> foxbuntu: you ever find anything out about the sound going bad when channels change?
[15:02] <pdragon> or anyone else know anything about it?
[15:02] <rhpot1991_laptop> laga: you should link to the ubuntu wiki
[15:02] <tgm4883> rhpot1991_laptop, hmm
[15:02] <tgm4883> this is very strange
[15:03] <tgm4883> apparently there are 2 dirs in my default storage group
[15:04] <tgm4883> 1  	Default  	OLDHOSTNAME  	/var/lib/mythtv/recordings
[15:04] <tgm4883> 2  	Default  	ovit  	/mythtv/recordings/ovit500/
[15:04] <rhpot1991_laptop> thats prob why
[15:04] <tgm4883> but there are no recordings in the first one
[15:04] <rhpot1991_laptop> although I still have a bug I think
[15:04] <tgm4883> which is strange
[15:04] <rhpot1991_laptop> but it should work once you fix that
[15:04] <tgm4883> still sounds like a bug though
[15:04] <rhpot1991_laptop> ya
[15:05] <rhpot1991_laptop> its searching using an empty variable
[15:05] <tgm4883> otherwise it will always chose that first dir
[15:05] <rhpot1991_laptop> and then grabbing the first storage dir
[15:05] <rhpot1991_laptop> yep
[15:05] <rhpot1991_laptop> I never really tested the storage group stuff, just assumed the code I worked from was working
[15:06] <rhpot1991_laptop> so it kinda does, but needs to be fixed
[15:06] <tgm4883> yep
[15:06] <pdragon> just looked in my frontend log for when i changed a channel last night. the log just fills up with this: http://pastebin.com/d3f5c4b34
[15:07] <pdragon> sound gets static and has a high pitched wine
[15:07] <pdragon> if i exit live tv then go back in, everything is fine again
[15:07] <rhpot1991_laptop> pdragon: my understanding is thats a generic error and you should use launch the frontend by hand with the verbos option
[15:08] <pdragon> what's the command to do that? haven't launched the front end from cmdline and just want to be sure
[15:09] <rhpot1991_laptop> pdragon: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=736528
[15:09] <rhpot1991_laptop> talks about it in there
[15:11] <pdragon> cool. will try that when i have a chance. thanks!
[15:35] <Stemming78> Good morning all;  I am at a point were I am ALMOST finished setting up my Remote Frontend - thanks sooo much for the assistance I have gotten thus far...
[15:36] <Stemming78> I have 2 items that need guidence;  1) I cannot get Live TV on the Frontend (opens then closes).
[15:38] <Stemming78> Issue 2:  need to know how to access the Recording directory on the Frontend machine;  thinking the 2 issues may be related...  Anyways, I dabbled w/ FSTAB, but from the information I have found, it may require NFS... input?
[15:39] <Stemming78> Currently using FSTAB to access VIDEO and MUSIC directories on my VISTA machine <cifs>
[15:39] <rhpot1991_laptop> Stemming78: you want to do fstab with nfs (preferably) or samba to share them out
[15:39] <rhpot1991_laptop> are you using the default recordings directory?
[15:40] <Stemming78> You are referring to on the Backend machine; answer is yes... Have not made changes to the Remote frontend
[15:41] <rhpot1991_laptop> yep
[15:41] <rhpot1991_laptop> so go into MCC and enable NFS
[15:41] <rhpot1991_laptop> it will share that out automagically
[15:41] <Stemming78> alrighty
[15:42] <rhpot1991_laptop> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo
[15:42] <rhpot1991_laptop> then follow the client stuff in there
[15:42] <Stemming78> you are a god!
[15:42] <rhpot1991_laptop> putting it in your fstab just like you did with your cifs
[15:43] <Stemming78> roger....   How about the LiveTV
[15:43] <rhpot1991_laptop> in theory that should work as well then
[15:43] <rhpot1991_laptop> 0.21 or 0.20.2
[15:43] <Stemming78> >>> do I need to setup directorys in /ext/exports (recordings)
[15:44] <rhpot1991_laptop> Stemming78: MCC will do that for you
[15:44] <Stemming78> gotta love Mythbuntu MCC....
[15:46] <Stemming78> rhpot1991_laptop:  checking the /etc/exports file....  Should I lineout Videos and Music as they are being shared from another PC.
[15:46] <rhpot1991_laptop> ya, no reason to have them
[15:46] <rhpot1991_laptop> it does all your /var/lib/mythtv/* folders by default I think
[15:47] <rhpot1991_laptop> so throw a # in front of anything you don't want it sharing
[15:47] <Stemming78> Or does it look at Shared Folders already set?
[15:48] <rhpot1991_laptop> not sure if it looks for them or just has that hardcoded somewhere
[15:48] <rhpot1991_laptop> either way just comment out whatever you don't need
[15:48] <Stemming78> Lastly, on the Backend...  Will I need to restart nfs?
[15:48] <tgm4883> it does /var/lib/mythtv/*
[15:48] <Stemming78> right on....  thank you sir!
[15:49] <rhpot1991_laptop> Stemming78: prob doesn't hurt to
[15:49] <rhpot1991_laptop> I have a general when in doubt restart (as long as you can) rule
[15:49] <foxbuntu> rhpot1991_laptop, yes it does, everytime NFS is restarted...God kills a kitten
[15:50] <rhpot1991_laptop> foxbuntu: you don't want to know what he does when you touch yourself then
[15:50] <laga> um
[15:50] <laga> keep this family friendly, guys
[15:50] <foxbuntu> oh he stopped doing anything for that long ago, he couldn't keep up
[15:51] <laga> ;)
[15:51] <Stemming78> Ohh, thought I would share this as it gave me a HUGE headache...  I have a Via Epia MB....  Unichrome driver does not support 2D so the video playback was all f***ed.  Most threads I found suggested I unstall Unichrome...  Anyways, Openchrome is required for Mythbuntu.
[15:51] <Stemming78> Here is a link; pass it on if you like :)
[15:51] <laga> Stemming78: add it to the FAQ :)
[15:51] <Stemming78>   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenChrome?highlight=%28openchrome%29
[15:52] <rhpot1991_laptop> Stemming78: might want to search wiki.mythtv.com as well, I recall seeing info on there about VIA boards
[15:54] <Stemming78> Yah, it required a LOT of digging - misguided information along w/ the goodies...  So, if I created an FAQ, which I prob still will, it will be redundant.
[15:54] <laga> you can just link to the wiki page that helped you
[15:55] <Stemming78> Anyways, was just passing the info to you guys as you "touch" more individuals than I.
[15:55] <Stemming78> thanks laga
[15:56] <rhpot1991_laptop> laga: see what I said about linking the ubuntu wiki in your support posting?
[15:57] <Stemming78> FYI - should note; 3D is not supported which is found in the installation guide (sourced several different threads)- have to update the Kernal (which I did not do)
[15:57] <Stemming78> Think this is correct: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ViaEpiaDriHowto
[15:57] <Stemming78> Anyways; thanks again rhpot1991_laptop...  Back to work!
[15:58] <laga> rhpot1991_laptop: yes, thanks
[16:27] <akempgen> does mythbuntu 804 work with a dhcp + zeroconf environment out of the box? cause i cant seem to find settings for that
[16:30] <akempgen> or whats the general status on zeroconf support?
[16:31] <laga> akempgen: well, mythbuntu has the same support for zeroconf as ubuntu
[16:31] <laga> (read: i dunno, but we don't do anything that's not done in ubuntu)
[16:31] <akempgen> :)
[16:32] <akempgen> well, i can see its announcing a workgroup manager over zeroconf, so it is installed
[16:33] <akempgen> but is mythtv aware of that?
[16:33] <akempgen> i mean can i use something like mythbuntuserver.local as the address of my backend?
[16:34] <directhex|bsp> a backend must have a static ip to work properly on a network
[16:34] <directhex|bsp> sorry
[16:37] <akempgen> mmmmh
[16:38] <laga> ah
[16:38] <laga> you want to use zeroconf addresses to talk to your backends..
[16:38] <akempgen> yes
[16:38] <laga> i think you can only enter IP addresses
[16:40] <akempgen> is there a feature request for that or should i write one somewhere? :)
[16:42] <laga> you could just configure your systems properly :)
[16:42] <laga> but go ahead, write a blueprint
[16:42] <akempgen> using zeroconf IS proper config :P
[16:43] <akempgen> does mythbuntu have its own bugtracker? or is that a mythtv issue?
[16:44] <laga> akempgen: http://blueprints.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/
[16:44] <laga> i think
[16:45] <laga> but don't expect it to be resolved soon. assuming that a server has a static IP address is a pretty common concept :)
[16:45] <iamlindoro__> Not to mention between internalizing the SQL server and uPnP, it's likely to end up "wontfix"
[16:45] <akempgen> :O
[16:46] <Stemming78> sorry to jump in akempgen; I can NOW play Recordings and am able to watch LiveTV which is good...
[16:47] <Stemming78> The Recordings and LiveTV plays back REAL choppy (frames) which is bad...  However, Video playback is smooth!  ideas?
[16:49] <iamlindoro__> Edit your playback profiles, Utilities/Setup->Setup->TV Settings->Playback, Page 3
[17:13] <puccha> I just installed mythtv-frontend 0.21 (hardy). And enabled 0.21 via backports on my gutsy backend. When I try to watch tv it sets the video type to interlaced but it should be progressive. Manually changing it works but I can't find how to make it default progressive.
[17:30] <Stemming78> puccha: this is off subject, but I found postings you had made reguarding the via EPIA board...  How did you get smooth playback of LiveTV and Recordings?
[17:31] <Stemming78> I think it was you at least
[17:31] <puccha> Could be me. I have an epia.
[17:31] <puccha> but I use it as a backend only.
[17:32] <puccha> but I believe the epia has a build in mpeg decoder as well.
[17:33] <Stemming78> yah, cant seem to figure out HOW to get the damb thing to work right...  Think it may be something with my xorg.conf file; the hunt continues...
[17:35] <puccha> can't help you there, my server lacks any X capabilities.
[18:01] <rhpot1991_laptop> puccha: have you checked the playback settings?
[18:01] <puccha> yes but I couldnt find it.
[18:03] <rhpot1991_laptop> Stemming78: not sure why I didn't ask this before, but you shouldn't need to nfs share out your recordings
[18:03] <rhpot1991_laptop> the backend should automagically feed them to the frontend, provided you gave it an IP which was accessible to the frontend and set it up that way in the frontend as well
[18:06] <rhpot1991_laptop> puccha: where did you set it to progressive, in the menu while playing?
[18:07] <puccha> rhpot1991_laptop: yes.
[18:07] <Koffa> 0.21 didn't start recording on time, no errors in mythbackend.log... restarting backend fixed it...
[18:08] <Koffa> web-interface worked normally, live tv not...
[18:08] <rhpot1991_laptop> you can check and make sure that a deinterlacer is on in the playback profiles
[18:10] <puccha> cant seem to find an option. should I edit 'stream type"?
[18:12] <puccha> I tried some but it didn't make a differnce.
[18:16] <Stemming78> rhpot1991_laptop: after I set NFS, recordings are now accessible and I can watch TV so for some reason it was required
[18:18] <mcquaid> i notice in my logs myth keeps trying to delete something that isn't there
[18:18] <Stemming78> I am in the middle of "enabling DVI" for my Epia board.  just downloaded and extracted the kernel - now I am supposed to download and extract a patch.... Problem is, the link to the patch is no longer "live"; cannot access...  Should I continue w/o the patch or would someone direct me to a patch that will work
[18:18] <mcquaid> ERROR when trying to delete file: /GetPlaybackURL/UNABLE/TO/FIND/LOCAL/FILE/ON/myth/1047_20080320203000.nuv. File doesn't exist.  Database metadata will not be removed.
[18:18] <mcquaid> how do i remove that from the db?
[18:19] <Stemming78> Install guide:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ViaEpiaDriHowto  --> file I am trying to get but cannnot locate elsewhere:  wget http://www.epialinux.org/files/patch-2.6.12.3-epia.bz2
[18:22] <iamlindoro__> mcquaid, "touch 1047_20080320203000.nuv" in your recordings dir
[18:23] <iamlindoro__> mcquaid, next time it tries to delete it will succeed
[18:23] <mcquaid> ah
[18:23] <mcquaid> i should have thought of that thx
[18:23] <iamlindoro__> yup
[18:24] <mcquaid> here i'm thinking i gotta muck with the db...
[18:24] <mcquaid> ;)
[18:25] <rhpot1991_laptop> Stemming78: sounds like you might not have something setup correctly then, they should be able to talk to each other as long as they can access each other's IP's (IE backend shouldn't be on 127.0.0.1)
[18:26] <rhpot1991_laptop> Stemming78: it is a single backend and a frontend right?
[18:27] <Stemming78> rhpot1991_laptop: Main box:  Frontend/Backend   Remote Box: Frontend only
[18:28] <rhpot1991_laptop> Stemming78: yep that should work without an nfs share
[18:28] <Stemming78> I have Backend IP address set w/ Username and Password
[18:28] <rhpot1991_laptop> verify the backend IP is the external IP for the box and not 127.0.0.1
[18:29] <Stemming78> Wasnt after installation; setting the nfs got the sduff working
[18:30] <rhpot1991_laptop> ya, nfsing them isn't a bad idea
[18:30] <rhpot1991_laptop> but the backend should share out recordings and live tv itself
[18:30] <rhpot1991_laptop> so it depends if you care enough to find out whats wrong or not
[18:30] <Stemming78> ahh, you are correct...  didnt have an ip address set on the backend machine...
[18:31] <Stemming78> Had a wierd problem yesterday in which Video and Video Manager disappeared... Had to apt-get mythvideo...  Seems this was effected as well as it was set before.
[18:31] <rhpot1991_laptop> do that then in your frontend (on both, I think) point it at that new address
[18:31] <Stemming78> Doing it now...
[18:32] <Stemming78> Yah, both need to have the IP address; remote frontend already had it set...
[18:33] <Stemming78> Question; I am at a standstill with completing my installation...   I have found, with more digging, I need to enable DVI on the Epia box for video to stream smoothly
[18:33] <Stemming78> Following this guide:   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ViaEpiaDriHowto
[18:34] <Stemming78> The PATCH is no longer available...  What to do now? <at Let Us Begin> section
[18:39] <rhpot1991_laptop> looks like epialinux.org is failing
[18:39] <rhpot1991_laptop> google around, or go to the forums and see if someone might have it
[18:39] <rhpot1991_laptop> http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.epialinux.org/files/patch-2.6.12.3-epia.bz2
[18:40] <rhpot1991_laptop> kinda old
[18:40] <rhpot1991_laptop> you might have a problem with that being for an old kernel
[18:41] <Stemming78> So scrap the patch and look for a newer Kernal or Patch?
[18:42] <rhpot1991_laptop> have you tried searching the forums for people currently using this?
[18:42] <rhpot1991_laptop> or maybe post in there asking about it
[18:42] <rhpot1991_laptop> might be better if you find someone telling you how/what works than just finding a random patch and trying it yourself
[18:43] <Stemming78> I found a wiki: http://www.courville.org/mediawiki/index.php/CLE266_MPEG_decoding
[18:44] <Stemming78> It seems to be in compliant w/ what I am trying to accomplish....  Just SOOO many options
[18:44] <surlyjake> have a question regarding mythweb video streaming: when i click on a link to one of my videos... nothing happens. it just links to "/mythweb/video#"
[18:45] <rhpot1991_laptop> surlyjake: hmmm I didn't think that mythvideo could stream in mythweb
[18:45] <rhpot1991_laptop> might be cause I use isos in there
[18:47] <surlyjake> rhpot:  there were people on here yesterday talking about how streaming is possible
[18:48] <rhpot1991_laptop> surlyjake: have you verified your symlinks work?
[18:48] <rhpot1991_laptop> surlyjake: streaming of videos and not recordings?
[18:48] <rhpot1991_laptop> mine will let me download videos
[18:48] <rhpot1991_laptop> but not stream
[18:49] <surlyjake> that doesn't sound right. yesterday they were talking about even streaming using flash
[18:51] <rhpot1991_laptop> ya you can do that with recordings
[18:55] <rhpot1991_laptop> surlyjake: verified streaming is recordings only, not mythvideos
[18:56] <surlyjake> rhpot: i don't even record or watch tv with mine, i just use it as a pretty interface to watch my videos on my tv. RATS!
[18:57] <rhpot1991_laptop> surlyjake: well in theory you can import them as recordings
[18:58] <rhpot1991_laptop> surlyjake: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Myth.rebuilddatabase.pl
[18:58] <rhpot1991_laptop> you can use that to import things as recordings
[18:58] <rhpot1991_laptop> might have problems with flash not liking your source if its not mpeg, I couldn't tell you how it will behave
[18:58] <laga> rhpot1991_laptop: there is a patch to use mencoder instead of ffmpeg.
[18:59] <laga> maybe we can use that..
[18:59] <rhpot1991_laptop> laga: ffmpeg works fine for my recordings, but if he is importing say xvid files, I don't know how it will behave
[18:59] <rhpot1991_laptop> just trying to warn him incase something goes wrong
[18:59] <laga> rhpot1991_laptop: ffmpeg doesnt work for nuv, mencoder will
[19:00] <rhpot1991_laptop> laga: might be a good idea to include both
[19:00] <rhpot1991_laptop> and have an option somewhere to switch
[19:00] <rhpot1991_laptop> also there is the hardy didn't have libmp3lame ffmpeg problem, which is fixed for the time being with medibuntu
[19:06] <surlyjake> this sounds complicated. and i don't want to mess my video collection up.
[19:07] <surlyjake> if i scan through my collection, will it alter anything? or just populate the database?
[19:07] <rhpot1991_laptop> I'd just do it with one first
[19:07] <rhpot1991_laptop> it will add them as a recording instead
[19:08] <rhpot1991_laptop> its a pain IMO, you need to feed it all sorts of info
[19:08] <surlyjake> but the actual .avi file, will that remain in its smae place?
[19:08] <rhpot1991_laptop> it can, but I would make a copy and put in the recordings directory while you mess around
[19:08] <rhpot1991_laptop> recordings do things like auto expire and all
[19:08] <rhpot1991_laptop> don't want you to lose your files while testing
[19:11] <surlyjake> any better systems you know of to stream my video library? even another app?
[19:12] <rhpot1991_laptop> not streaming, sorry
[19:12] <rhpot1991_laptop> elisa might be worth looking into
[19:13] <rhpot1991_laptop> that or find a different tool that can stream
[19:13] <rhpot1991_laptop> and keep using mythtv locally
[19:29] <npurciful> hah, stupid human trick of the day, i wrote a script to kill ppp via greping processes, but the script wouldnt finish, why you may ask? because i named the file 'kppp' it was killing its self
[19:29] <npurciful> doh!
[19:33] <laga> heh
[19:33] <TelnetManta> lol
[19:34] <TelnetManta> anybody have pics of theyre small frontend setup?
[19:34] <TelnetManta> looking for ideas
[19:35] <rhpot1992> TelnetManta: I have an antec fusion as a BE/FE, not really all that small though
[19:38] <TehSnarf> Anyone familiar with the video2ipod script?
[19:39]  * rhpot1992 is familiar with mythexport
[19:40] <rhpot1992> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythExport
[19:40] <TehSnarf> mythexport, you say, eh?
[19:40] <TehSnarf> fantastic
[19:53] <TehSnarf> mythexport is looking in the completely wrong directory... for some reason it's looking in /var/lib/mythtv/dbbackup ... when it should be looking in /var/lib/mythtv/recordings
[19:54] <rhpot1991_laptop> TehSnarf: yep thats a bug, I need to look at tonight
[19:55] <TehSnarf> right on
[19:55] <rhpot1991_laptop> temporary fix is to remove your backup storage directory (it essentially serves no purpose at this point)
[19:55] <TehSnarf> right on
[19:55] <TehSnarf> I can do that
[20:03] <TehSnarf> working like a champ now
[20:04] <rhpot1991_laptop> good to hear
[20:09] <TelnetManta> right onlol
[20:12] <TehSnarf> and now, for my final mission... to transcode a recording and replace the original with it, instead of creating a new file somewhere... anyone have any suggestions for that?
[20:13] <TelnetManta> that transcoding takes forever eh?
[20:13] <TelnetManta> I tried it a few times
[20:14] <rhpot1991_laptop> TehSnarf: mythtranscode is built in, but it depends what you want to transcode to
[20:15] <TelnetManta> I wonder if he was sposed to be "TheSnarf"?
[20:15] <TehSnarf> basically, I have a 30 minute program that's 1.1GB in size, I want to transcode it down to, let's say 180 something-ish meg.. but instead of having both the 1.1GB file and a 180MB file somewhere else, I want to replace the 1.1GB with the 180MB, and still have myth look at the 180MB as though it's the larger
[20:17] <rhpot1991_laptop> TehSnarf: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Mythtranscode
[20:28] <TehSnarf> would I be able to use something like nuvexport in place of mythtranscode?
[20:29] <rhpot1991_laptop> you should be able to
[20:30] <TehSnarf> I'll have to mess around with that when I get home then
[20:30] <TehSnarf> Eeeeeeeexcellent
[20:52] <TehSnarf> I guess it would help if I edited out the commercials from these files, maybe drop them down a bit BEFORE I start transcoding
[20:52] <TehSnarf> :|
[20:53] <rhpot1991_laptop> TehSnarf: mythtranscode does that
[20:53] <rhpot1991_laptop> if you go into the edit video screen and just verify your cut points
[20:53] <rhpot1991_laptop> then transcode, they get removed
[20:55] <TehSnarf> yeah
[20:55] <TehSnarf> I didn't do that
[20:55] <TehSnarf> and just jumped straight in to it
[20:56] <TehSnarf> One last thing, before I bolt.. you have a faq or something somewhere on setting up a remote? I just got a streamzap plugged in and working last night, and now I'm wanting to set up some fancy stuff for the colored buttons
[20:57] <rhpot1991_laptop> TehSnarf: did you activate it with MCC?
[20:58] <TehSnarf> I did
[20:58] <rhpot1991_laptop> just go into your /home/<your user>/.lirc directory
[20:59] <rhpot1991_laptop> look at other buttons to see how they do it, and make your own for those buttons
[20:59] <rhpot1991_laptop> notice there is a mythtv file, xine fine and so on
[20:59] <TehSnarf> I see that
[20:59] <TehSnarf> fantastic
[21:00] <TehSnarf> thanks a ton rhpot
[21:00] <rhpot1991_laptop> you can find out what keys do what in mythtv by using mythweb or there is a page on wiki.mythtv.org tht says it
[21:00] <rhpot1991_laptop> no problem
[21:00] <rhpot1991_laptop> good luck
[22:25] <melhiser> Is there any hope for hardware mpeg4/h264 acceleration with ANY video card under linux?
[22:25]  * melhiser wonders over to piracy.gov
[22:26]  * melhiser claims his $10k reward
[22:26] <tgm4883_laptop> melhiser, yes
[22:26] <EvilGuru> melhiser: What do you have to do to get 10k?
[22:26] <tgm4883_laptop> hopefully by the end of may
[22:26] <melhiser> evil: wrong window... someone was asking how much trouble they would get in for downloading Star Trek episondes
[22:27] <melhiser> tgm4883: are these the ones from AMD/ATI or Intel?
[22:27] <tgm4883_laptop> hauppauge
[22:27] <melhiser> for-real?
[22:27] <melhiser> what is it?  An external accelerator?
[22:27] <tgm4883_laptop> yea, well actually it isn't a card, it's an external box hooked up through usb i believe
[22:28] <EvilGuru> With the price of the $ as it is it is not as tempting as it once might have been
[22:28]  * tgm4883_laptop wonders if melhiser has been living under a rock
[22:28] <melhiser> evil: ahah
[22:28] <tgm4883_laptop> melhiser, they unveiled it as CES this year
[22:28] <tgm4883_laptop> it's supposed to be available in stores by the end of may
[22:28] <EvilGuru> tgm4883_laptop: Does one send it MPEG AVC data and get it back un-compressed?"
[22:29] <melhiser> tgm: I've been burried in trying to decipher the VIA UniChrome drivers for the last 2 months... and their wildly miss leading claim to support hardware h264 acceleration
[22:29] <tgm4883_laptop> not sure on the linux support for it, but judging by whats been going on, it looks promising
[22:29] <tgm4883_laptop> oh fsck
[22:29] <tgm4883_laptop> nevermind anything i just said
[22:29] <staind9383> soooo my firewire cabel box stopped working.... again
[22:30] <staind9383> and i didnt even tinker with anything
[22:30] <staind9383> just out of the blue, stopped working
[22:30] <staind9383> with mythtv that is
[22:30] <tgm4883_laptop> melhiser, sorry I for some reason thought you asked about hardware mpeg4/h264 encoding
[22:30] <rhpot1991> staind9383: check to see if the channel is CCI'd or 5c'd or something
[22:30] <melhiser> staind: firewire bus reset?
[22:30] <rhpot1991> or maybe it jumped nodes
[22:30] <staind9383> plugreport does not show anything being connected anymore
[22:30] <tgm4883_laptop> staind9383, cable company could have pushed an update
[22:30] <staind9383> gives an error
[22:31] <staind9383> but kinda hesitates on the right node number
[22:31] <melhiser> tgm: AHH!! that makes MUCH more sense
[22:31] <rhpot1991> staind9383: odd, check that your box still has opened firewire
[22:31] <staind9383> rhpot1991: how t odo that?
[22:31] <staind9383> i can get o the diag menu, but there are like 30 pages of information
[22:31] <staind9383> some i cant decipher
[22:32] <staind9383> tgm: anyway to tell when the last updates was pushed?
[22:32] <staind9383> box is sa4250hd
[22:32] <melhiser> staind: firmware release date?
[22:32] <tgm4883_laptop> staind9383, sorry, not that i know of
[22:32] <tgm4883_laptop> i dont do stb cable anymore
[22:33] <staind9383> how come?
[22:33] <tgm4883_laptop> i have directv
[22:33] <tgm4883_laptop> :(
[22:33] <staind9383> haha, oh
[22:33] <tgm4883_laptop> yea i moved and they dont have cable here :(
[22:34] <staind9383> well... firewire cable is really my only option here... clearQAM is spotty at best and the tv tuner i have makes its analog signal sounds like alvin and the chipmunks and i cant solve it
[22:34] <tgm4883_laptop> what tuner?
[22:34] <melhiser> so... back to the original question I had... any hope for hardware mpeg4/h264 Decoding with any linux cards out there?
[22:34] <staind9383> that and the cable co here seems to have overlooked the 5c flag and i could record premium hd channels
[22:34] <staind9383> kworld atsc110
[22:35] <melhiser> staind: shhhhhh!!!!
[22:35] <staind9383> i mean
[22:35] <staind9383> i cant tune them
[22:35]  * melhiser moves next door to stained
[22:35] <foxbuntu> lol
[22:36] <foxbuntu> you guys...cable compaanies are so screwed up they can't tell the difference between a sneeze and a wet fart, much less how to use irc
[22:36] <melhiser> I'm really hating this lack of hardware acceleration for linux... it's back to the days of yester year and being a red headed step child
[22:36] <melhiser> all I want is a small htpc that doesn't need a freon tube
[22:37] <foxbuntu> lol
[22:37] <tgm4883_laptop> foxbuntu, i'll have more data in like a week, but the last half hour I have been playing with this it hasn't given me the scratchy sound
[22:37] <rhpot1991> my cable company thinks firewire == hdmi
[22:37] <staind9383> nice
[22:37] <foxbuntu> tgm4883_laptop, so what did you change? just the channel binary in /usr/share/bin?
[22:38] <staind9383> so firewire has gone in and out for me in the past... it will work for a while, then suddenly stop
[22:38] <rhpot1991> staind9383: for my motorola box I have to go into the debug menu and look in there
[22:38] <rhpot1991> I have found a spot where it says that the firewire is enabled, another that says 5c=no
[22:38] <tgm4883_laptop> well i have the directv script that the posted code references, so it was real easy for me to insert this
[22:38] <rhpot1991> and there is another that is per channel which is CCI
[22:38] <staind9383> its really frustrating because i used to think that i did something wrong... returned the box once, stopped using the htpc altogether once
[22:38] <rhpot1991> I have that on 2 of my channels and it kills them
[22:38] <rhpot1991> the rest are ok
[22:38] <staind9383> hmm
[22:38] <staind9383> i'll have to look
[22:38] <foxbuntu> tgm4883_laptop, oh, I am using the channel binary for serial to a moto STB
[22:39] <tgm4883_laptop> ok
[22:39] <tgm4883_laptop> well it shouldn't be too hard to get it to work
[22:39] <staind9383> so a few months after it stopped owrking i tried myth randomly again and it worked...
[22:39] <foxbuntu> yeah...guess I need to look at the binary
[22:39] <rhpot1991> foxbuntu: why not firewire that?
[22:39] <staind9383> and its kjinda been a vicious cycle
[22:39] <foxbuntu> rhpot1991, no firewire
[22:39] <rhpot1991> ah
[22:40] <rhpot1991> call up your cable co and tell them they are required by law to give you firewire
[22:40] <tgm4883_laptop> foxbuntu, this part of the script just calls the directv.pl script
[22:40] <foxbuntu> I run my hd over QAM on my HDHR
[22:40] <tgm4883_laptop> system "directv.pl port /dev/ttyS0 $ARGV[0]";
[22:40] <staind9383> only this timemythbackend refuses to start when the firewire is connected to the cable box
[22:40] <rhpot1991> staind9383: firewire tester has a reset option, -R I think
[22:40] <tgm4883_laptop> then in mythtv-setup i just call this as the channel change script "fixaudio_1.pl"
[22:40] <staind9383> yea
[22:40] <rhpot1991> try that then try looking to see if they are on the right nodes
[22:40] <foxbuntu> tgm4883_laptop, yeah...thats what I was thinking
[22:41] <rhpot1991> also for reference firewire primers for 0.21 are being redone
[22:41] <rhpot1991> shouldn't need ports or nodes at all
[22:41] <majoridiot> correct!
[22:41] <rhpot1991> alright dinner time
[22:41] <staind9383> the node has always been 1 here
[22:41]  * rhpot1991 lets majoridiot take over
[22:41] <majoridiot> and rhpot1991... just he guy i was looking for
[22:41] <staind9383> i'm using .21
[22:41] <foxbuntu> tgm4883_laptop, I however think I am going to write it in python
[22:41] <majoridiot> working on the primer now... great progress.
[22:41] <staind9383> not too much documentation on the firewire for it though
[22:41] <rhpot1991> majoridiot: whats up?  (make it quick I gotta eat)
[22:41] <staind9383> that i found
[22:41] <rhpot1991> nice
[22:44] <majoridiot> firewire primer *should* require no user intervention in 8.04
[22:44] <staind9383> meaning no setup required?
[22:45] <majoridiot> correct
[22:45] <majoridiot> no port or node required.
[22:45] <staind9383> it seemed to work right out ofthe box when i upgraded to .21
[22:45] <majoridiot> and it *should* prime multiple stbs automatically.
[22:45] <staind9383> but my firewire just stopped working last night i think
[22:45] <staind9383> and i have no idea what happened
[22:46] <majoridiot> it is for me too, staind9383, but my box resides on port 0 node 1 as the primer is hard-coded for.  some are not as lucky.
[22:46] <tgm4883_laptop> hmm, can you no longer delete channels in mythweb?
[22:46] <majoridiot> have you checked the CCI flags?
[22:46] <staind9383> i dont know where why are in the diag, i'm lookin now
[22:46] <staind9383> 'm usually port 0 node 1 also
[22:47] <majoridiot> what model stb?
[22:47] <staind9383> sa4250hd
[22:47] <majoridiot> ah cool... you can help test the new primer ;)
[22:47] <majoridiot> i only have one other SA tester.
[22:47] <staind9383> haha
[22:48] <staind9383> well i would gladly help if it was working :P
[22:48] <staind9383> since you have a SA box, do you know where the CCI flag is in the mes of diag menus?
[22:49]  * majoridiot has a moto 6212
[22:49] <majoridiot> sorry
[22:49] <majoridiot> lemme email samo and ask him...
[22:49] <staind9383> ooo i read that wrong
[22:50] <staind9383> firewire is frustrating though :(
[22:50] <majoridiot> staind9383, email sent... i'll let you know if i hear back.
[22:51] <staind9383> thanks
[22:51] <majoridiot> staind9383, hopefully it's about to get simpler.  unfortunately, the cable companies are no help.
[22:53] <staind9383> unfortunately firewire is my only real option right now.  I guess i can get a different tuner card if it comes down to it... but analog is pretty much dead in a year right?
[22:53] <majoridiot> pretty much.
[22:53] <majoridiot> will have to either cap with a tuner from analog out on the stb or invest in an HD component cap card.
[22:54] <staind9383> there is almost nothin on clear qam around here
[22:54] <staind9383> component card?
[22:54] <staind9383> as in component in?
[22:54] <staind9383> thought they didnt make them
[22:54] <majoridiot> hauppauge is releasing one soon... with onboard hardware h264 encoding.  bitrate settable 5Mbps-20Mbps
[22:55] <majoridiot> i have an HD component cap card now.  windoze drivers only and no onboard compression. :(
[22:55] <staind9383> oo
[22:55] <majoridiot> theoretical release in the next 60 days, maybe
[22:55] <staind9383> i guess there's no tuner card equivilent of ndiswrapper?
[22:56] <majoridiot> rumors it will com with linux drivers, or soon thereafter.
[22:56] <staind9383> nice
[22:56]  * majoridiot is salivating for one
[22:56] <staind9383> haha
[22:56]  * majoridiot is poor, but will eat ramen for six months to pay for one
[22:57] <staind9383> my tuner card now doesnt even do analog right in linux, so its this or cap from the analog out of hte cable box
[22:57] <staind9383> ain't nothin wrong with ramen
[22:57] <majoridiot> firewire is best quality, if channels are clear.
[22:57] <staind9383> yea, i know.. that is why this is so frustrating
[22:58] <staind9383> i get it working finally, it works for a good month, then BAM.  no more firewire, and mythbackend wont start
[22:59] <majoridiot> does it still show with plugreport?
[22:59] <staind9383> no, it hesitates on the right node, but gives the libec61883 error
[23:00] <majoridiot> plugreport gives liec61883 error?
[23:00] <majoridiot> what is that error?
[23:01] <staind9383> libiec61883 error: error reading oMPR
[23:01] <staind9383> and
[23:01] <staind9383> libiec61883 error: error reading iMPR
[23:01] <majoridiot> for node 1?
[23:01] <staind9383> on both node 0 and node 1
[23:01] <majoridiot> ah
[23:01] <staind9383> node 1 is where the box is usually
[23:01] <staind9383> well
[23:01] <staind9383> always make that
[23:01] <majoridiot> does it give same error for sudo plugreport?
[23:01] <staind9383> yea
[23:02] <staind9383> i'm gonna go eat... i'll be back later
[23:02] <majoridiot> have you upgraded recently?
[23:02] <staind9383> the week that /21 came out
[23:02] <majoridiot> enjoy...
[23:02] <staind9383> but all was working
[23:02] <staind9383> be back
[23:02] <majoridiot> k.  i'll help troubleshoot when yer done munchin.
[23:16] <majoridiot> man nvtv
[23:17] <majoridiot> wrong window LOL
[23:24] <Stemming78> Sorry for jumping in, but I am trying to locate information on updating my Epia to support DRI (CLE266 chipset).  From the information I find, it requires a Kernal update/patch.  Could someone point me to a thread so I can get this done...  I dont know MUCH about this and dont want to F it up; additionally the 1 link I did find that fit the requirements had broken links....
[23:31] <staind9383> back
[23:32] <staind9383> majoridiot: did you  hear back from the tester with the SA box?
[23:32] <majoridiot> not yet.
[23:32] <majoridiot> he works for another hour or so... and has been ill.
[23:33] <staind9383> that is never fun
[23:33] <majoridiot> things to try:
[23:34] <majoridiot> check firewire card to be sure it is seated
[23:34] <staind9383> its onboard
[23:34] <majoridiot> cool
[23:35] <majoridiot> power down computer, power down stb, physically disconnect and reconnect both ends of fw cable, reboot stb, reboot computer then check plugreport
[23:35] <majoridiot> if still no go, do it again... except when you plug the cable back into the stb, try the other port.
[23:36] <staind9383> by 'power down the stb' do you mean hitting the power button for soft off, or removing the power cable
[23:36] <majoridiot> (samos active ports suddenly switched one night)
[23:36] <majoridiot> soft off first.
[23:36] <staind9383> ok
[23:37] <majoridiot> hard reboot only if both tries fail.  in that case, revert back to the original stb plug and hard-boot the stb with the computer off.
[23:38] <staind9383> is there any particular reason it would just stop working?
[23:39] <staind9383> do the cable cos try to shut these things down from time to time by sending bad data or something like htat?
[23:39]  * majoridiot puts nothing past the cable companies
[23:39] <staind9383> first try, nothing on plugreport
[23:41] <majoridiot> nothing on plugreport or plugreport errors?
[23:41] <staind9383> errors
[23:42] <staind9383> i think that node 0 has always given those errors for me... is that normal?
[23:42] <staind9383> node 1 still hesitates before giving the errors
[23:43] <majoridiot> yes... if there is nothing connected, you will get oMPR/iMPR errors
[23:43] <staind9383> tryin the different port on the cabel box did not work, same result
[23:43] <majoridiot> ok... sounds like an stb issue
[23:43] <majoridiot> ok then, switch back to the original port and hard-boot the stb with the backend shut down
[23:44] <staind9383> this shows up in the backend log
[23:44] <staind9383> 2008-03-27 19:42:30.770 LFireDev(001AC34341220000), Error: Not an STB
[23:44] <majoridiot> ah...
[23:44] <staind9383> last line
[23:44] <majoridiot> mythtv bug.
[23:44] <majoridiot> running .21 are you?
[23:44] <staind9383> the bug has to do with plugreport?
[23:44] <staind9383> yes
[23:45] <majoridiot> hard reboot the stb
[23:45] <staind9383> ok
[23:45] <staind9383> pc off also right?
[23:45]  * majoridiot wonders if there is a firmware change that needs loaded/reloaded
[23:45] <majoridiot> yes, pc off.
[23:48] <staind9383> i can understand it not working after me upgrading or something... but the out of the blue just kinda throws you for a lopp you know
[23:48]  * majoridiot knows
[23:50] <staind9383> i forgot how long it takes this thing to hard reset
[23:51] <majoridiot> samo said it takes forever
[23:55] <staind9383> ok its back, rebooting the pc
[23:55] <staind9383> starting up rather
[23:56] <staind9383> hmm... good sign, the channel changed
[23:56] <staind9383> plugreport is working fine again
[23:57] <staind9383> its working again
[23:58] <staind9383> thanks a lot, majoridiot
[23:58] <majoridiot> very good!
[23:58] <staind9383> you must have the magic touch
[23:58] <majoridiot> nah
[23:58] <staind9383> i guess hard reset is the way to go
[23:58] <majoridiot> just done it a ton for folks
[23:58] <staind9383> i'll hav eto remember that
[23:58] <majoridiot> sometimes it's what is required.
[23:59] <majoridiot> would you please pm me your email address so i can contact you very soon to test the new primer?
[23:59] <majoridiot> staind9383,  or i can pm you mine
[23:59] <staind9383> how come the channels for firewire in .21 show the LAM lock like tuner cards?
[23:59] <staind9383> i will, hold on
[23:59] <majoridiot> firewire was significantly revamped in .21