| SIRavecavec | hi need a bit help | 03:34 |
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| SIRavecavec | i am new with edubuntu and all i want is to upgrade withount cd my version direct from internet | 03:34 |
| SIRavecavec | is it posible? | 03:34 |
| SIRavecavec | hi how do i change the language of edubuntu? | 04:22 |
| SIRavecavec | hi | 06:07 |
| SIRavecavec | need help | 06:07 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | SIRavecavec, same problem as before? | 06:07 |
| SIRavecavec | yes | 06:08 |
| SIRavecavec | but now look | 06:08 |
| SIRavecavec | i get a error when i try to add remove programs | 06:09 |
| SIRavecavec | (gnome-app-install:4466): HtmlUtil-CRITICAL **: html_stream_cancel: assertion `stream->cancel_func != NULL' failed | 06:09 |
| SIRavecavec | i really need to set it in to english language | 06:09 |
| SIRavecavec | :(( | 06:09 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | where do you see that message? | 06:10 |
| SIRavecavec | in terminal when i try to manualy add remove programs | 06:10 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | what was the command you ran? | 06:10 |
| SIRavecavec | gnome-app-install | 06:11 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | just that? | 06:11 |
| SIRavecavec | yes | 06:12 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | what happens if you run it from the menu? | 06:12 |
| SIRavecavec | i do not know to run it from menu | 06:12 |
| SIRavecavec | cause its czech language\ | 06:12 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | are english translations installed? | 06:12 |
| SIRavecavec | i do not know | 06:13 |
| SIRavecavec | :( | 06:13 |
| SIRavecavec | this is what i want to do | 06:13 |
| SIRavecavec | but only from terminal | 06:13 |
| SIRavecavec | cause i cannot outher wai | 06:13 |
| SIRavecavec | way | 06:13 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | cant find the jolly lang packs ;| | 06:16 |
| SIRavecavec | Kamping_Kaiser, | 06:18 |
| SIRavecavec | look | 06:18 |
| SIRavecavec | this are my steps | 06:18 |
| SIRavecavec | root@edubuntu-server:~# gnome-app-install | 06:18 |
| SIRavecavec | warning: could not initiate dbus | 06:18 |
| SIRavecavec | ** (gnome-app-install:4466): WARNING **: return value of custom widget handler was not a GtkWidget | 06:18 |
| SIRavecavec | Now i see something is wrong but... | 06:18 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | well theres the problem | 06:18 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | your running it from a root@ console | 06:18 |
| SIRavecavec | dbus/// | 06:18 |
| SIRavecavec | yes | 06:18 |
| SIRavecavec | i must be root | 06:19 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | why? | 06:19 |
| SIRavecavec | to start that command | 06:19 |
| SIRavecavec | or? | 06:19 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | you dont need to be root to run gai | 06:19 |
| SIRavecavec | ok | 06:20 |
| SIRavecavec | tabornik@edubuntu-server:~$ gnome-app-install | 06:21 |
| SIRavecavec | Introspect error: The name org.freedesktop.AppInstall was not provided by any .service files | 06:21 |
| SIRavecavec | no listening object (The name org.freedesktop.AppInstall was not provided by any .service files) | 06:21 |
| SIRavecavec | ** (gnome-app-install:5054): WARNING **: return value of custom widget handler was not a GtkWidget | 06:21 |
| SIRavecavec | This is when i run it normaly | 06:21 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | so your terminal is in english? | 06:22 |
| SIRavecavec | yes | 06:22 |
| SIRavecavec | but only that | 06:22 |
| SIRavecavec | not entire interface | 06:22 |
| SIRavecavec | i want the interface in english | 06:22 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | are you logging into the server from a client or on the server? | 06:22 |
| SIRavecavec | and i receive same erors as root | 06:22 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | running gui apps as root is prone to breaking them | 06:23 |
| SIRavecavec | :( | 06:23 |
| SIRavecavec | so what is best i do now | 06:23 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | how are you logge d in? from GDM on the server or a client? | 06:24 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | changing language in GDM is relatively easy | 06:24 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | actually, are you ona terminal server, or a workstation? | 06:24 |
| SIRavecavec | workstation | 06:27 |
| SIRavecavec | and is just a simple username | 06:27 |
| SIRavecavec | and i enter in terminal the root login | 06:27 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | workstation is much easier | 06:27 |
| SIRavecavec | cause this wass preinstaled in czeech language | 06:27 |
| SIRavecavec | ok | 06:27 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | in the bottom left of the login screen is a little menu | 06:28 |
| SIRavecavec | can you assist me? | 06:28 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | it lets you select your 'session' (eg gnome/kde/other), and language | 06:28 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | i cant really tell you past that, because i dont know what it'll say | 06:28 |
| SIRavecavec | i cannot find any | 06:30 |
| SIRavecavec | if its a way from terminal | 06:30 |
| SIRavecavec | then i do it | 06:30 |
| SIRavecavec | but from this interface not a chance | 06:30 |
| SIRavecavec | i tryed all menus | 06:30 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | have you tried looking in the menu? | 06:30 |
| SIRavecavec | yes | 06:31 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | SIRavecavec, perhaps ask #ubuntu-cz if someone can help you. jenda will be able to perhaps (even though hes currently inactive) | 06:32 |
| SIRavecavec | ahh | 06:34 |
| SIRavecavec | ok | 06:34 |
| * Kamping_Kaiser goes to do some study | 06:35 | |
| SIRavecavec | if i am root | 06:35 |
| SIRavecavec | how can i find gnome sudo pass? | 06:35 |
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| dtrask | stgraber: I just used your bt headset pairing program....very nice....thanks for doing it. Made life easier :-) | 13:49 |
| === ogra_cmpc is now known as ogra | ||
| === manu_ubu is now known as manu_ubu-away | ||
| === manu_ubu-away is now known as manu_ubu | ||
| SIRavecavec | hi need some help someone here to help me? | 17:17 |
| juliux | SIRavecavec, just ask your question, perhaps somebody is around who can help you | 17:22 |
| SIRavecavec | ive updated my edubuntunfrom 6.06 to next version and when i check version on terminal is 6.06 when i try to update again there are no packs available | 17:23 |
| SIRavecavec | whe i access add remove programs i get this | 17:44 |
| SIRavecavec | (gnome-app-install:7223): HtmlUtil-CRITICAL **: html_stream_cancel: assertion `stream->cancel_func != NULL' failed | 17:44 |
| SIRavecavec | juliux, | 18:42 |
| SIRavecavec | can you help me? | 18:42 |
| ogra | SIRavecavec, did you follow the upgrade docs ? | 18:45 |
| johnny | ogra! | 18:45 |
| johnny | also, don't bug people by name when they join SIRavecavec, it is bad ettiquette | 18:46 |
| * johnny upgrades to hardy on the laptop for testing | 18:46 | |
| johnny | i lost power during it tho :( | 18:46 |
| johnny | hopefully it'll finish properly this time | 18:46 |
| ogra | you turn into an ubuntu user slowly eh ? | 18:46 |
| johnny | i use ubuntu at the store | 18:47 |
| johnny | and maintain multiple ubuntu boxes | 18:47 |
| ogra | oh, right, i forgot | 18:47 |
| johnny | i need my own ubuntu box to play with , so i can actually know what i'm doing :) | 18:47 |
| ogra | all your gentoo efforts made me forget :) | 18:47 |
| johnny | and break my own stuff | 18:47 |
| ogra | btw, donnie was looking for you yesterday | 18:47 |
| johnny | i found him | 18:47 |
| ogra | good | 18:47 |
| johnny | i was out of town for a few days | 18:47 |
| johnny | it was good for my ltsp efforts tho! | 18:48 |
| johnny | now i can refocus | 18:48 |
| johnny | uggh..scrollkeeper update is taking FOREVER | 18:48 |
| SIRavecavec | i did folow the documents | 18:48 |
| * ogra *finally* finishes the whisky he has lying around after getting good feedback from the marketing team for the classmate image | 18:49 | |
| johnny | HURRY UP! | 18:49 |
| johnny | aha.. finally | 18:49 |
| ogra | SIRavecavec, so you didnt use apget anywhere ... did the update-manager show any errors | 18:49 |
| ogra | *apt-get | 18:49 |
| SIRavecavec | ogra, no errors | 18:50 |
| SIRavecavec | first time | 18:50 |
| johnny | gnome stopped working :( | 18:50 |
| johnny | i'm having to use apt-get | 18:50 |
| ogra | no | 18:50 |
| SIRavecavec | and after i instaled i try to see my version and is steel 6.06 | 18:50 |
| ogra | johnny, you use update-manager-core | 18:50 |
| SIRavecavec | when i try to use again update manager its says im newest version | 18:50 |
| johnny | i wish update-manager would hold off on asking questions til the end, i go to sleep.. and it's still waiting for an answer :( | 18:51 |
| SIRavecavec | ogra, i try to much this:(( | 18:51 |
| ogra | SIRavecavec, did you pull a fresh version from dapper-updates before upgarding ? the upgarde code is usually in these versions | 18:51 |
| ogra | johnny, the thing is that apt simply doesnt handle all cases of upgrades, u-m has a lot of special casing for converting setup, removing unsupported stuff and making sure the right replacements are in place | 18:53 |
| ogra | using apt only will not give you the same system u-m will | 18:53 |
| ogra | thats why we discourage apt usage at all for dist upgrades | 18:53 |
| johnny | i don't even have update-manager-core | 18:53 |
| ogra | no, its only installed on -server by default | 18:54 |
| SIRavecavec | ogra, no i did not i did what they told me to do upgrade-manager | 18:54 |
| ogra | SIRavecavec, for a proper upgrade you need to first install update-manager from your releases updates repository (in your case dapper-updates) | 18:55 |
| ogra | the upgrade docs state that i think | 18:55 |
| ogra | and explain how to get it | 18:55 |
| SIRavecavec | ok can you teach me how or where to read? | 18:55 |
| johnny | actually it told me to run dpkg --configure -a | 18:55 |
| SIRavecavec | (synaptic:7334): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_tree_view_unref_tree_helper: assertion `node != NULL' failed | 18:55 |
| SIRavecavec | i get this erros many times | 18:55 |
| ogra | SIRavecavec, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades#head-7e4d0a8850f88d770c9e373ca84c3a78703a58ad | 18:57 |
| johnny | did they ever add that option to allow you to keep your /home intact? | 18:57 |
| ogra | ? | 18:58 |
| johnny | in the installer | 18:58 |
| SIRavecavec | root@edubuntu-server:~# do-release-upgrade --devel-release | 18:58 |
| SIRavecavec | Checking for a new ubuntu release | 18:58 |
| SIRavecavec | No new release found | 18:58 |
| SIRavecavec | root@edubuntu-server:~# do-release-upgrade | 18:58 |
| SIRavecavec | Checking for a new ubuntu release | 18:58 |
| SIRavecavec | No new release found | 18:58 |
| ogra | home will never ever be touched by any upgrade | 18:58 |
| johnny | for an installer .. not upgrade | 18:58 |
| ogra | you can do that since the first ubuntu release | 18:59 |
| johnny | but only if it's on a seperate partition? | 18:59 |
| ogra | just pick custom partitioning and mount the /home wherever you want it | 18:59 |
| ogra | right | 18:59 |
| johnny | i don't have a mounted /home.. i picked the default when i set it up | 18:59 |
| johnny | i was in a rush | 18:59 |
| johnny | and the drive wasnt' large | 18:59 |
| ogra | for users thats fine imho | 18:59 |
| ogra | usually you dont ever need yto reinstall a debian based OS | 19:00 |
| ogra | for a developer thats different ... | 19:00 |
| johnny | so.. ltsp question.. it's saying tags aren't supported by my current branch format.. is followng the instructions to run bzr upgrade --dirstate-tags the right thing? | 19:00 |
| ogra | i need to reinstall from time to time ... so i keep my home separate | 19:00 |
| Muhammad_Saad | Hello, I am looking for a way to get Yahoo Mail in Evolution. If nobody here knows, please guide me to a channel where I can get my answer. | 19:00 |
| ogra | johnny, yup | 19:01 |
| ogra | Muhammad_Saad, http://gopalkoduri.wordpress.com/2006/06/23/configuring-evolution-mail-to-work-with/ second hit for googling "Yahoo Mail in Evolution" | 19:02 |
| Muhammad_Saad | I want to do that for free. :-/ | 19:05 |
| Muhammad_Saad | just like there is the WebMail extension in Thunderbird. | 19:06 |
| Muhammad_Saad | Does anyone know? | 19:07 |
| Muhammad_Saad | If nobody knows then please tell me an appropriate channel. | 19:08 |
| johnny | we might not know it? | 19:08 |
| johnny | look for the gnome irc server? | 19:09 |
| ogra | what do you me4an with "for free" ? | 19:12 |
| ogra | the page above only shows the data you have to use to make it work | 19:12 |
| ogra | it doesnt cost anything | 19:12 |
| Muhammad_Saad | I think Yahoo only provides POP to those who pay for it. Please correct me if I am wrong. | 19:13 |
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| ogra | no idea | 19:13 |
| ogra | i would never touch yahoo mail | 19:13 |
| ogra | so i dont know | 19:13 |
| ogra | ... | 19:13 |
| ogra | you asked for instructions how to make tyahoo work with evo | 19:14 |
| ogra | google might reveal a lot more here | 19:14 |
| Muhammad_Saad | I would never touch Yahoo mail too but I have to use it for messenger service to stay connected with my friends. | 19:14 |
| RichEd | ogra: does the image update with zsync but keep the old filename | 19:15 |
| RichEd | (old date in the name) ? | 19:15 |
| ogra | if you use the -o option | 19:16 |
| ogra | (its suboptimal, i know) | 19:16 |
| RichEd | fine ... as long as I did not waste my time & bandwidth :) | 19:16 |
| ogra | nah | 19:16 |
| RichEd | doing the dd now to usb | 19:16 |
| ogra | check the date of the file qith ls -l | 19:16 |
| ogra | and check the md5sum | 19:16 |
| ogra | thats why i generate it ;) | 19:17 |
| RichEd | will let you know tomorrow if it breaks like mr liptin seems to manage :) | 19:17 |
| ogra | he said he didnt but his colleagues did | 19:17 |
| RichEd | well they are skilled over there aren't they ;) | 19:17 |
| ogra | shhh | 19:17 |
| RichEd | later ... knackered & have to put the boys to bed | 19:18 |
| ogra | we're on a public channel :) | 19:18 |
| RichEd | till tomorrow | 19:18 |
| ogra | ciao | 19:18 |
| RichEd | i'm talking about mr lipton the tea fellow ... | 19:18 |
| RichEd | nothin to do with ***** | 19:18 |
| ogra | oh | 19:18 |
| RichEd | bye | 19:18 |
| ogra | ah | 19:18 |
| ogra | thought that was a typo | 19:18 |
| ogra | :) | 19:18 |
| SIRavecavec | ogra, | 19:20 |
| SIRavecavec | it did not worked none of above | 19:20 |
| SIRavecavec | i cannot update | 19:20 |
| ogra | Sir_Remoz, did you read the instructions on teh page i pasted above | 19:23 |
| SIRavecavec | ogra, yes i did | 19:24 |
| ogra | and what does the command under that url give you ? | 19:25 |
| SIRavecavec | nothing | 19:25 |
| SIRavecavec | i just type it and nothing hapends | 19:26 |
| highvoltage | oh wow, not often I see you guys here on a friday eveneing :) | 19:38 |
| * SIRavecavec is drunk | 19:39 | |
| highvoltage | *BSZZZZHT* | 19:40 |
| * LaserJock runs | 19:41 | |
| SIRavecavec | hi LaserJock | 19:42 |
| LaserJock | hi | 19:42 |
| LaserJock | highvoltage: how's it going> | 19:49 |
| LaserJock | ? | 19:49 |
| highvoltage | LaserJock: just woke up a few minutes ago | 19:49 |
| highvoltage | LaserJock: bad allergies bought me down, so I took a nap, feeling slightly better now | 19:49 |
| highvoltage | LaserJock: also going through yet another phase of thinking *everything* through and deciding what is important in life | 19:50 |
| LaserJock | highvoltage: heh, me too | 19:51 |
| LaserJock | I just made a last minute *buntu push and uploaded a bunch of stuff | 19:51 |
| highvoltage | yes, I saw your feature freeze exception request for gcompris. | 19:52 |
| highvoltage | glad it came through. | 19:52 |
| LaserJock | highvoltage: yeah, sometimes I'm surprised that things get approved | 19:54 |
| highvoltage | LaserJock: I think it makes a big difference that you've worked with quite a few different packages in the past, and that you are proven to be competent. So if you ask for an exception, I would think that it's considered very low risk to approve it. | 19:55 |
| highvoltage | I wish I can get to that stage one day :) | 19:55 |
| SIRavecavec | LaserJock, i cannnot make my edubuntu upgrade | 19:55 |
| SIRavecavec | :( i try all documentation | 19:55 |
| LaserJock | SIRavecavec: what version do you have and what do you want to upgrade to? | 19:56 |
| SIRavecavec | i have 6.06 but i used update-manager -c and its showing me some upgrades i instaled all | 19:56 |
| SIRavecavec | but when i use terminal to check my version its steel 6.06 | 19:56 |
| SIRavecavec | and when i try to use again update-manager -c is no updates anymore | 19:57 |
| LaserJock | hmm | 19:57 |
| LaserJock | 6.06 is pretty old | 19:57 |
| SIRavecavec | yes | 19:57 |
| SIRavecavec | :(\ | 19:57 |
| LaserJock | so do you want to update to 7.10? | 19:57 |
| SIRavecavec | yes | 19:57 |
| SIRavecavec | or last version | 19:57 |
| SIRavecavec | i wass even ready to test the betas | 19:58 |
| SIRavecavec | but... | 19:58 |
| SIRavecavec | :( | 19:58 |
| SIRavecavec | i use romainian language | 19:58 |
| SIRavecavec | my native language | 19:58 |
| LaserJock | well, a direct upgrade from 6.06 to 7.10 isn't really supported | 19:58 |
| opapo | when I restart a client the server restarts | 19:59 |
| LaserJock | a direct upgrade from 6.06 to 8.04 which will be out next month will be supported | 19:59 |
| opapo | is that a bug, feature, or user error | 19:59 |
| LaserJock | opapo: how are you restarting the client? | 19:59 |
| opapo | I am in the client and I do sudo init 6 | 19:59 |
| SIRavecavec | so LaserJock can i go to 7.04 | 20:00 |
| SIRavecavec | or a better version | 20:00 |
| LaserJock | SIRavecavec: well, you can try, generally upgrade only work very well from one release to the next | 20:00 |
| stgraber | opapo: what you see on your client is a session running on the server, so everything you run will be run on the server | 20:00 |
| LaserJock | so 6.06 -> 6.10 -> 7.04 -> 7.10 | 20:00 |
| stgraber | opapo: the only way you have to reboot a client si to close the session then choose reboot at the login prompt | 20:00 |
| LaserJock | but that gets really messy | 20:01 |
| SIRavecavec | LaserJock, but what commands i use? | 20:01 |
| SIRavecavec | to do that? | 20:01 |
| opapo | stgraber: that explains things | 20:01 |
| opapo | so, for clarification sake, I get to a login screen that has an ip address given through dhcp | 20:02 |
| opapo | and then when I log in, I have the ip address of the server? | 20:02 |
| LaserJock | SIRavecavec: check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/UpgradeFromOldVersion | 20:03 |
| opapo | Can I not have a client running a full OS in a chrooted environment? | 20:05 |
| opapo | on the server? | 20:06 |
| SIRavecavec | LaserJock, but its only for version feytsy and ge./.. | 20:06 |
| SIRavecavec | not for drake mine 6.06 | 20:06 |
| LaserJock | opapo: I think that's what is called a fat client | 20:06 |
| opapo | LaserJock: thanks | 20:07 |
| LaserJock | SIRavecavec: "For example, a user of Ubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) could first upgrade to 6.10, then to 7.04, and then to 7.10. For instructions on how to do this, check the UpgradeNotes page." | 20:07 |
| opapo | You guys have been helpful and responsive. Thank you. | 20:07 |
| LaserJock | SIRavecavec: which then leads you to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes | 20:07 |
| LaserJock | opapo: no problem | 20:07 |
| stgraber | opapo: np, fat clients may be a solution depending on how fast is your hardware (and your network) | 20:11 |
| stgraber | opapo: IIRC we have a wiki page about that but not sure how up to date it's | 20:11 |
| opapo | stgraber: The information is out of date by a year or two, but I have enough information to head in the right direction | 20:29 |
| SIRavecavec | how to add mc to edubuntu?\ | 20:57 |
| SIRavecavec | midnight commander | 20:57 |
| SIRavecavec | ? | 20:57 |
| opapo | does citrix run a thin or thick client? | 22:41 |
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