[03:34] hi need a bit help [03:34] i am new with edubuntu and all i want is to upgrade withount cd my version direct from internet [03:34] is it posible? [04:22] hi how do i change the language of edubuntu? [06:07] hi [06:07] need help [06:07] SIRavecavec, same problem as before? [06:08] yes [06:08] but now look [06:09] i get a error when i try to add remove programs [06:09] (gnome-app-install:4466): HtmlUtil-CRITICAL **: html_stream_cancel: assertion `stream->cancel_func != NULL' failed [06:09] i really need to set it in to english language [06:09] :(( [06:10] where do you see that message? [06:10] in terminal when i try to manualy add remove programs [06:10] what was the command you ran? [06:11] gnome-app-install [06:11] just that? [06:12] yes [06:12] what happens if you run it from the menu? [06:12] i do not know to run it from menu [06:12] cause its czech language\ [06:12] are english translations installed? [06:13] i do not know [06:13] :( [06:13] this is what i want to do [06:13] but only from terminal [06:13] cause i cannot outher wai [06:13] way [06:16] cant find the jolly lang packs ;| [06:18] Kamping_Kaiser, [06:18] look [06:18] this are my steps [06:18] root@edubuntu-server:~# gnome-app-install [06:18] warning: could not initiate dbus [06:18] ** (gnome-app-install:4466): WARNING **: return value of custom widget handler was not a GtkWidget [06:18] Now i see something is wrong but... [06:18] well theres the problem [06:18] your running it from a root@ console [06:18] dbus/// [06:18] yes [06:19] i must be root [06:19] why? [06:19] to start that command [06:19] or? [06:19] you dont need to be root to run gai [06:20] ok [06:21] tabornik@edubuntu-server:~$ gnome-app-install [06:21] Introspect error: The name org.freedesktop.AppInstall was not provided by any .service files [06:21] no listening object (The name org.freedesktop.AppInstall was not provided by any .service files) [06:21] ** (gnome-app-install:5054): WARNING **: return value of custom widget handler was not a GtkWidget [06:21] This is when i run it normaly [06:22] so your terminal is in english? [06:22] yes [06:22] but only that [06:22] not entire interface [06:22] i want the interface in english [06:22] are you logging into the server from a client or on the server? [06:22] and i receive same erors as root [06:23] running gui apps as root is prone to breaking them [06:23] :( [06:23] so what is best i do now [06:24] how are you logge d in? from GDM on the server or a client? [06:24] changing language in GDM is relatively easy [06:24] actually, are you ona terminal server, or a workstation? [06:27] workstation [06:27] and is just a simple username [06:27] and i enter in terminal the root login [06:27] workstation is much easier [06:27] cause this wass preinstaled in czeech language [06:27] ok [06:28] in the bottom left of the login screen is a little menu [06:28] can you assist me? [06:28] it lets you select your 'session' (eg gnome/kde/other), and language [06:28] i cant really tell you past that, because i dont know what it'll say [06:30] i cannot find any [06:30] if its a way from terminal [06:30] then i do it [06:30] but from this interface not a chance [06:30] i tryed all menus [06:30] have you tried looking in the menu? [06:31] yes [06:32] SIRavecavec, perhaps ask #ubuntu-cz if someone can help you. jenda will be able to perhaps (even though hes currently inactive) [06:34] ahh [06:34] ok [06:35] * Kamping_Kaiser goes to do some study [06:35] if i am root [06:35] how can i find gnome sudo pass? === manu_ubu-away is now known as manu_ubu [13:49] stgraber: I just used your bt headset pairing program....very nice....thanks for doing it. Made life easier :-) === ogra_cmpc is now known as ogra === manu_ubu is now known as manu_ubu-away === manu_ubu-away is now known as manu_ubu [17:17] hi need some help someone here to help me? [17:22] SIRavecavec, just ask your question, perhaps somebody is around who can help you [17:23] ive updated my edubuntunfrom 6.06 to next version and when i check version on terminal is 6.06 when i try to update again there are no packs available [17:44] whe i access add remove programs i get this [17:44] (gnome-app-install:7223): HtmlUtil-CRITICAL **: html_stream_cancel: assertion `stream->cancel_func != NULL' failed [18:42] juliux, [18:42] can you help me? [18:45] SIRavecavec, did you follow the upgrade docs ? [18:45] ogra! [18:46] also, don't bug people by name when they join SIRavecavec, it is bad ettiquette [18:46] * johnny upgrades to hardy on the laptop for testing [18:46] i lost power during it tho :( [18:46] hopefully it'll finish properly this time [18:46] you turn into an ubuntu user slowly eh ? [18:47] i use ubuntu at the store [18:47] and maintain multiple ubuntu boxes [18:47] oh, right, i forgot [18:47] i need my own ubuntu box to play with , so i can actually know what i'm doing :) [18:47] all your gentoo efforts made me forget :) [18:47] and break my own stuff [18:47] btw, donnie was looking for you yesterday [18:47] i found him [18:47] good [18:47] i was out of town for a few days [18:48] it was good for my ltsp efforts tho! [18:48] now i can refocus [18:48] uggh..scrollkeeper update is taking FOREVER [18:48] i did folow the documents [18:49] * ogra *finally* finishes the whisky he has lying around after getting good feedback from the marketing team for the classmate image [18:49] HURRY UP! [18:49] aha.. finally [18:49] SIRavecavec, so you didnt use apget anywhere ... did the update-manager show any errors [18:49] *apt-get [18:50] ogra, no errors [18:50] first time [18:50] gnome stopped working :( [18:50] i'm having to use apt-get [18:50] no [18:50] and after i instaled i try to see my version and is steel 6.06 [18:50] johnny, you use update-manager-core [18:50] when i try to use again update manager its says im newest version [18:51] i wish update-manager would hold off on asking questions til the end, i go to sleep.. and it's still waiting for an answer :( [18:51] ogra, i try to much this:(( [18:51] SIRavecavec, did you pull a fresh version from dapper-updates before upgarding ? the upgarde code is usually in these versions [18:53] johnny, the thing is that apt simply doesnt handle all cases of upgrades, u-m has a lot of special casing for converting setup, removing unsupported stuff and making sure the right replacements are in place [18:53] using apt only will not give you the same system u-m will [18:53] thats why we discourage apt usage at all for dist upgrades [18:53] i don't even have update-manager-core [18:54] no, its only installed on -server by default [18:54] ogra, no i did not i did what they told me to do upgrade-manager [18:55] SIRavecavec, for a proper upgrade you need to first install update-manager from your releases updates repository (in your case dapper-updates) [18:55] the upgrade docs state that i think [18:55] and explain how to get it [18:55] ok can you teach me how or where to read? [18:55] actually it told me to run dpkg --configure -a [18:55] (synaptic:7334): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_tree_view_unref_tree_helper: assertion `node != NULL' failed [18:55] i get this erros many times [18:57] SIRavecavec, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades#head-7e4d0a8850f88d770c9e373ca84c3a78703a58ad [18:57] did they ever add that option to allow you to keep your /home intact? [18:58] ? [18:58] in the installer [18:58] root@edubuntu-server:~# do-release-upgrade --devel-release [18:58] Checking for a new ubuntu release [18:58] No new release found [18:58] root@edubuntu-server:~# do-release-upgrade [18:58] Checking for a new ubuntu release [18:58] No new release found [18:58] home will never ever be touched by any upgrade [18:58] for an installer .. not upgrade [18:59] you can do that since the first ubuntu release [18:59] but only if it's on a seperate partition? [18:59] just pick custom partitioning and mount the /home wherever you want it [18:59] right [18:59] i don't have a mounted /home.. i picked the default when i set it up [18:59] i was in a rush [18:59] and the drive wasnt' large [18:59] for users thats fine imho [19:00] usually you dont ever need yto reinstall a debian based OS [19:00] for a developer thats different ... [19:00] so.. ltsp question.. it's saying tags aren't supported by my current branch format.. is followng the instructions to run bzr upgrade --dirstate-tags the right thing? [19:00] i need to reinstall from time to time ... so i keep my home separate [19:00] Hello, I am looking for a way to get Yahoo Mail in Evolution. If nobody here knows, please guide me to a channel where I can get my answer. [19:01] johnny, yup [19:02] Muhammad_Saad, http://gopalkoduri.wordpress.com/2006/06/23/configuring-evolution-mail-to-work-with/ second hit for googling "Yahoo Mail in Evolution" [19:05] I want to do that for free. :-/ [19:06] just like there is the WebMail extension in Thunderbird. [19:07] Does anyone know? [19:08] If nobody knows then please tell me an appropriate channel. [19:08] we might not know it? [19:09] look for the gnome irc server? [19:12] what do you me4an with "for free" ? [19:12] the page above only shows the data you have to use to make it work [19:12] it doesnt cost anything [19:13] I think Yahoo only provides POP to those who pay for it. Please correct me if I am wrong. === RichEd-1 is now known as RichEd [19:13] no idea [19:13] i would never touch yahoo mail [19:13] so i dont know [19:13] ... [19:14] you asked for instructions how to make tyahoo work with evo [19:14] google might reveal a lot more here [19:14] I would never touch Yahoo mail too but I have to use it for messenger service to stay connected with my friends. [19:15] ogra: does the image update with zsync but keep the old filename [19:15] (old date in the name) ? [19:16] if you use the -o option [19:16] (its suboptimal, i know) [19:16] fine ... as long as I did not waste my time & bandwidth :) [19:16] nah [19:16] doing the dd now to usb [19:16] check the date of the file qith ls -l [19:16] and check the md5sum [19:17] thats why i generate it ;) [19:17] will let you know tomorrow if it breaks like mr liptin seems to manage :) [19:17] he said he didnt but his colleagues did [19:17] well they are skilled over there aren't they ;) [19:17] shhh [19:18] later ... knackered & have to put the boys to bed [19:18] we're on a public channel :) [19:18] till tomorrow [19:18] ciao [19:18] i'm talking about mr lipton the tea fellow ... [19:18] nothin to do with ***** [19:18] oh [19:18] bye [19:18] ah [19:18] thought that was a typo [19:18] :) [19:20] ogra, [19:20] it did not worked none of above [19:20] i cannot update [19:23] Sir_Remoz, did you read the instructions on teh page i pasted above [19:24] ogra, yes i did [19:25] and what does the command under that url give you ? [19:25] nothing [19:26] i just type it and nothing hapends [19:38] oh wow, not often I see you guys here on a friday eveneing :) [19:39] * SIRavecavec is drunk [19:40] *BSZZZZHT* [19:41] * LaserJock runs [19:42] hi LaserJock [19:42] hi [19:49] highvoltage: how's it going> [19:49] ? [19:49] LaserJock: just woke up a few minutes ago [19:49] LaserJock: bad allergies bought me down, so I took a nap, feeling slightly better now [19:50] LaserJock: also going through yet another phase of thinking *everything* through and deciding what is important in life [19:51] highvoltage: heh, me too [19:51] I just made a last minute *buntu push and uploaded a bunch of stuff [19:52] yes, I saw your feature freeze exception request for gcompris. [19:52] glad it came through. [19:54] highvoltage: yeah, sometimes I'm surprised that things get approved [19:55] LaserJock: I think it makes a big difference that you've worked with quite a few different packages in the past, and that you are proven to be competent. So if you ask for an exception, I would think that it's considered very low risk to approve it. [19:55] I wish I can get to that stage one day :) [19:55] LaserJock, i cannnot make my edubuntu upgrade [19:55] :( i try all documentation [19:56] SIRavecavec: what version do you have and what do you want to upgrade to? [19:56] i have 6.06 but i used update-manager -c and its showing me some upgrades i instaled all [19:56] but when i use terminal to check my version its steel 6.06 [19:57] and when i try to use again update-manager -c is no updates anymore [19:57] hmm [19:57] 6.06 is pretty old [19:57] yes [19:57] :(\ [19:57] so do you want to update to 7.10? [19:57] yes [19:57] or last version [19:58] i wass even ready to test the betas [19:58] but... [19:58] :( [19:58] i use romainian language [19:58] my native language [19:58] well, a direct upgrade from 6.06 to 7.10 isn't really supported [19:59] when I restart a client the server restarts [19:59] a direct upgrade from 6.06 to 8.04 which will be out next month will be supported [19:59] is that a bug, feature, or user error [19:59] opapo: how are you restarting the client? [19:59] I am in the client and I do sudo init 6 [20:00] so LaserJock can i go to 7.04 [20:00] or a better version [20:00] SIRavecavec: well, you can try, generally upgrade only work very well from one release to the next [20:00] opapo: what you see on your client is a session running on the server, so everything you run will be run on the server [20:00] so 6.06 -> 6.10 -> 7.04 -> 7.10 [20:00] opapo: the only way you have to reboot a client si to close the session then choose reboot at the login prompt [20:01] but that gets really messy [20:01] LaserJock, but what commands i use? [20:01] to do that? [20:01] stgraber: that explains things [20:02] so, for clarification sake, I get to a login screen that has an ip address given through dhcp [20:02] and then when I log in, I have the ip address of the server? [20:03] SIRavecavec: check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/UpgradeFromOldVersion [20:05] Can I not have a client running a full OS in a chrooted environment? [20:06] on the server? [20:06] LaserJock, but its only for version feytsy and ge./.. [20:06] not for drake mine 6.06 [20:06] opapo: I think that's what is called a fat client [20:07] LaserJock: thanks [20:07] SIRavecavec: "For example, a user of Ubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) could first upgrade to 6.10, then to 7.04, and then to 7.10. For instructions on how to do this, check the UpgradeNotes page." [20:07] You guys have been helpful and responsive. Thank you. [20:07] SIRavecavec: which then leads you to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes [20:07] opapo: no problem [20:11] opapo: np, fat clients may be a solution depending on how fast is your hardware (and your network) [20:11] opapo: IIRC we have a wiki page about that but not sure how up to date it's [20:29] stgraber: The information is out of date by a year or two, but I have enough information to head in the right direction [20:57] how to add mc to edubuntu?\ [20:57] midnight commander [20:57] ? [22:41] does citrix run a thin or thick client?