[00:00] Nightrose: :S [00:00] Nightrose: may I dress up like a leather daddy? [00:00] * apachelogger always wanted to do that [00:00] sure ;-) [00:00] I am fine witht that [00:01] as long as we stick to the topic of kde multimedia ;-) [00:01] (or at least try to) [00:01] hooray [00:01] true [00:01] * apachelogger reminds Nightrose that amarok is not part of kdemultimedia [00:01] oO [00:02] * Nightrose wonders i apachelogger drank a captain or two today [00:02] *if [00:02] Oo [00:02] no [00:02] just tonic water for me [00:02] but I had to clean up our barkeeper's windows [00:02] Oo [00:03] Tonio_: new nicklist theme for konvi available now. Oxygen ones [00:09] http://tech.msn.com/news/articlepcw.aspx?cp-documentid=6485783 [00:10] ^^ that's a cool article...jealous of them kids...smart people [00:10] right... now I'll go sulk in a corner... [00:11] * Jucato enters into depression/self-pity/insecurity mode again... [00:13] * Nightrose safes Jucato with some kookies [00:13] saves even [00:14] oooh kookies!! [00:14] ;-) [00:15] * n8k99 hands Jucato a glass of Kmilk [00:15] milK [00:15] lots of laKtose [00:40] Jucato: how about a new konvi4 first =) === ugap is now known as uga === kewark is now known as krawek [03:11] nixternal: When it's worth supporting, absolutely. [03:22] had to scroll up to see what exactly you were talking about, and then I remembered LP :p [03:57] apachelogger, jpatrick, and any other MOTU member, or future MOTU member, we have a meeting in a couple of minutes in #ubuntu-meeting [03:57] go go go MOTU!! [03:58] * Jucato proclaims himself to be a master of one multiverse... [03:58] I see somerville is now a MOTU :D [03:58] yup === santiago-php is now known as santiago-ve [04:47] anyone by chance have a link to a webpage that details the share of the DEs out there? [04:47] I have heard the 65% rule for KDE before, but would like to have some backup to it [06:25] can any point me in the direction of a good tutorial/ebook on python GUI using qt4 designer? [06:27] hmm iirc Riddell did a very simple talk about that... [06:31] kiefer08: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuTutorialsDay/PyKDE and http://wiki.python.org/moin/PyQt and http://wiki.python.org/moin/PyQt4 has lots of links [06:41] morning [06:41] Jucato: cheers (sorry i was talking to teh family :p) I'll be sure to take a look [06:41] :D [06:42] guys, I can't find that wiki page where to add myself as an membership candidate. please point me :) [06:43] Serega: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Meetings [06:44] Jucato: but there is "Wednesday March 19, 2008 at 23:00 UTC" [06:44] the date changes, depending on the next meeting. but that's the main "Agenda" page [06:46] Jucato: very strange. empty candidate list, but couple of days ago there was two entries. maybe I'm too late? [06:46] you sure it was for the Kubuntu meeting and the Ubuntu Community Council one? [06:47] or perhaps those were old names already [06:47] Serega: ah yes. they were done in the last meeting it seems [06:48] * kiefer08 is now playing: Patrik och lillen ft Basshunter - Vifta med hÃ¤nderna [Remix] [06:48] O.o [06:48] Serega: Riddell cleaned it up today/yestereday (depending on the timezone :P) [06:49] Can any give me a basic overview of how to print konsole output in a QTextBrowser under qt4? [06:49] kiefer08: might want to try asking in #qt [06:49] er wait, konsole output? hm... [06:53] lol my thoughts exactly, its a little platform dependant [06:54] kiefer08: you can ask stdin later if he's around. iirc he made some small test app that takes a simple bash command and shows it's output... you might be able to get something from there [06:56] oh cheers, i'll keep an eye out :p [07:01] Jucato: thanks for those links earlier, found exactly what i was looking for, if anyone else asks for similar links, i would highly suggest linking them too http://zetcode.com/tutorials/pyqt4/ [07:17] i've got a little package management question : I have KDE4.0 installed on hardy from the repositories, but I need QT 4.4, and so I'm compiling it all from svn. Now, how do I remove the KDE4 that i installed from the reopsitories? === \sh_away is now known as \sh [07:37] Riddell: Hi [08:22] kiefer08: http://stdin.me.uk/code/qcommand.tar.gz have a look [08:23] he's alive!!! [08:23] I actually slept at night and woke up in the day :p [08:37] stdin: Cheers :), perfect timing, i just finished dinner :p [08:40] yummy [08:40] (I hope) [08:41] Bangers & Mash, cant go wrong :p [08:41] (Yes, Im Aussie :p) [08:41] * Jucato isn't :P [08:42] Hehe 'bangers & mash' = sausages with mashed potato, and usually baked beans, and sometimes cheese [08:43] baked beans = flatulence :P [08:43] hehe sorry [08:43] haha did you know that the gas produced from baked beans produces no scent? :p [08:44] I don't even want to test that theory :) [08:44] Hahaha [08:46] shower time, bbs :p === kiefer08 is now known as kiefer08|Away [08:47] TMI [09:02] am i the only one wtih dbus-daemon segfaults in hardy? === jords_ is now known as jords [09:22] <_StefanS_> Riddell: did that shadowed text for the windeco make into hardy? [09:23] <_StefanS_> Riddell: or is there something more I should have done ? [09:33] Riddell: I read the log for the pyQt lesson you gave, Found it very informing, good job :) [09:44] * Nightrose starts upgrade number two to hardy (desktop this time) [09:52] My lecturer today was talking about how he installed hardy beta on teh weekend today :\ === kiefer08|Away is now known as kiefer08 [10:21] hi there [10:21] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: hey you! [10:21] hi Tonio_! [10:22] hey ;) [10:22] saw my ping about the new Konvi nicklist theme? [10:22] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: can you push a new k-d-s ? [10:23] _StefanS_: yep that's on my plans [10:23] _StefanS_: need me to put something in it ? [10:24] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: nope, everything should already be there, however I'm not sure the gtk2-engines-qtcurve patch should be in there [10:24] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: gtk2-engines-qtcurve has not been cleared for main inclusion. I was too late. [10:24] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/kubuntu-default-settings/ubuntu/revision/163 [10:25] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: so only the shadow text should be implemented [10:26] okay so I have to remove this and go back to qt ? [10:26] and we'll use the standard gtk-qt-engines ? [10:26] <_StefanS_> yes. the kde style stays in as it is now. [10:26] <_StefanS_> gtk is reverted. [10:27] _StefanS_: on the other hand, it works pretty correctly [10:28] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: yep, its okay. Qtcurve for kde was the main thing. So if could just fix that windeco shadow, then we're set. [10:43] _StefanS_: working on kds now [10:46] Riddell: I really wonder what we should do with knetworkconf.... [10:46] Riddell: it is probably the more buggy component in kubuntu actually [10:46] and not little bugs : [10:46] - can break sudo in some cases [10:46] - breaks samba (smb.conf) if installed [10:47] - can't restart network services (like samba) when applying network config [10:47] I tried to debug, bug that's horribly complex perl code..... [10:47] I'm a bit lost on that one [10:47] Riddell: I just uploaded a workarround not to break sudo, that's the most important [10:47] Hi. I have a bug in KDE4 on Hardy. A lot of actions take ages (starting up, starting apps, opening some dropdown menus). When i start them in Konsole i get the following messages : "Cannot establish the socket connection..." and "Failed to initialize scim". Is this a known problem? [10:49] Tonio_: yeah, it needs thrown out and rewriten with the current backends [10:49] Tonio_: what does it have to do with samba? [10:49] Riddell: hi [10:49] Riddell: releasing kubuntu with a network config component that can break the all system is a big, big problem for me [10:50] Riddell: how will that be handled in kde4 ? [10:50] Riddell: I have prepared the wiki page, but cannot find where to add myself :) [10:51] Riddell: just an example, the scripts currently consider you have one lo ip only, which is wrong [10:51] Ah found the bug in launchpad [10:51] Serega: m [10:52] Riddell: so all 127.* entries are trashed, including the 127.0.1.1 one, used by default for our host [10:52] Serega: put wiki page at FirstnameLastname and link from https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Meetings [10:52] Riddell: that's the one breaking sudo [10:52] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: great [10:52] _StefanS_: there are so many ones :) [10:52] Tonio_: in future releases hopefully we'll have knetworkmanager 0.7 and that should handle most network cases [10:53] Riddell: I 'm confused by "Wednesday March 19, 2008 at 23:00 UTC" [10:53] Serega: that's old. change it to Saturday 5th 11:00UTC [10:53] Riddell: yeah, networkmanager 0.7 is supposed to fix all limitations (static ips etc.......) [10:54] xRaich[o]2x: grr, scim. what happens if you remove scim? [10:54] Riddell: I'm eventually looking for another tool that would handle static config without bugs....... I hope it's not too late [10:54] _StefanS_: tonio is uploading k-d-s, so shadowed text would be in that unless he doesn't like it [10:55] but he should remove the gtk changes first [10:55] Riddell: what about http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/netGo?content=14221 ? [10:55] <_StefanS_> Riddell: yup I asked him to remove it [10:56] afaik, this tool work, so we could replace the knetworkmanager link with this [10:56] kiefer08: glad you liked it. if you want to give something back, techbase is a bit light on python tutorials http://techbase.kde.org/index.php?title=Development/Tutorials#Python [10:57] Riddell: or that one :) http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Static+IP+configurator?content=25666 [10:57] static ip configurator, that's all we need [10:57] something simple that doesn't break the system [10:57] Tonio_: looks old. does it work with /etc/network/interfaces ? [10:57] Riddell: the second one does [10:57] Riddell: knetworkconf also is old, really old [10:58] Riddell: I'm ready to spend the all day testing this one deeply, so eventually we can replace knetworkconf if that's not too late [10:58] Riddell: Ey Im not half bad at python, i'll sure consider writing something :p [10:58] argh, it's a kommander script :'( [10:58] Riddell: Trying right now, purged all scim packages mentioned in bug #206302. [10:59] Launchpad bug 206302 in scim "scim fails to initialize, segfaults, makes kde4 apps take long to load" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/206302 [10:59] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: yep, cant knetworkconf be fixed? [10:59] _StefanS_: really long and complex [10:59] _StefanS_: I spent 2 days in the code without finding what to do [10:59] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: is it c++? [10:59] _StefanS_: debuging is complicated, (perl code called within c++) etc....... [11:00] _StefanS_: nope :) [11:00] <_StefanS_> uhm a hybrid thing [11:00] _StefanS_: in fact all that we need woud be this : http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Static+IP+configurator?content=25666 [11:00] _StefanS_: but written with c++ or python [11:01] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: for each interface i reckon.. [11:01] Just a warning to everyone, there is a virus (a worm) circulating MSN Messenger, and other IM apps, if someone messages you telling you to goto "ht tp:/ /sk8 erbo y1519.par tyt im ez. inf o" (Spaces there so you dont click on it) or anything similar, dont do it, it will infect you. [11:01] --A little off topic i know :p [11:01] _StefanS_: can be written in one day for a coder I suspect....... in terested ? [11:01] interested ? [11:01] just one window allowing to write a static ip, and that's it [11:01] Riddell: done, please check [11:01] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: and a dropdown for each interface? [11:02] _StefanS_: yep [11:02] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: and writing results to /etc/network/interfaces, right? [11:02] and of course parsing /etc/network/interfaces to read the settings [11:02] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: yep, and vice versa [11:02] _StefanS_: yep, and invoke-rc.d networking restart is ran after you validate the configuration [11:02] kiefer08: probably the most off topic comment we've ever had :) [11:02] _StefanS_: shouldn't be hard to do I suspect [11:03] Riddell: hehe, pays to be aware though :p [11:03] Riddell: that and im sick of people IM'ing me the site because they were stupid enough to visit it [11:04] Serega: groovy [11:04] :) [11:04] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: I can commit to do it [11:05] Riddell: That worked. [11:05] _StefanS_: kwlan does it [11:05] _StefanS_: you can find the code there, and adapt to work in a simple window [11:05] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: ok, will grab it from there [11:05] * Serega half of today's morning was creating cool flying head branding [11:05] _StefanS_: the reason we don't use kwlan is that it duplicates with knetworkmanager [11:06] <_StefanS_> i know [11:06] _StefanS_: but it deals with static ip settings :) [11:08] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: doesnt it need to be converted to a kcm module aswell? [11:09] _StefanS_: nope [11:09] _StefanS_: if you can, that'd be great, but as long as it feets in knetworkmanager, it's fine to me [11:09] Riddell: would you agree on rationale ? [11:09] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: ok then, its supposed to be launched from knm applet? [11:09] _StefanS_: making this to work would fix one of our biggest problems [11:10] on my side, I'll prepare a new kds with oxygen theme for konvi [11:10] <_StefanS_> right, I will get right on it. [11:11] Tonio_: so long as it and knetworkmanager don't fight over who's controlling the network settings [11:12] of course ;) [11:14] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: any idea how we would prevent those two apps from fighting the ip ? maybe there is a nm status we could look at [11:15] _StefanS_: you mean ? [11:22] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: I just mean if you set a static ip with the new program, knm needs to know it [11:22] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: but lets see, I will look into it [11:22] _StefanS_: it will, since of the "networking restart" [11:22] <_StefanS_> ok, good [11:22] dbus rocks ;) [11:23] _StefanS_: so I have to get your kwincrystalrc file and let gtk-qt with qt that's right ? [11:24] <_StefanS_> yep [11:30] Riddell, _StefanS_: kds uploaded with oxygen theme and windeco fixes [11:30] awooga [11:31] Riddell: I hope you won't hate me anymore now the tango issue has been fixed :) [11:31] Riddell: now everything called tango will be on my shit list.... [11:31] je t'adore un autre fois [11:31] Riddell: ^^ [11:31] I've no idea if that makes any grammatical sense :) [11:35] nixternal: dang it, I was sleeping :( [11:44] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: thanks! [11:44] Riddell: ping [11:46] hi viviersf [11:47] Riddell: ping? [11:48] gosh, I'm popular [11:48] hi danimo [11:48] :) [11:48] Riddell: well, if you put broken network manager packages in the same repo with the Qt 4.4 beta ones without a warning... :) [11:48] Riddell: what are those good for? [11:48] er yes, don't install those [11:49] testing network manager 0.7 (which doesn't work) [11:49] Riddell: yes, but how? Pinning is a pain in the ass and it has to be done beforehand [11:50] don't run dist-upgrade [11:52] Riddell: erm, too late :} [11:53] Riddell: I'll simply disable your packages, remove knm/nm and reinstall it [11:53] yep [12:02] Riddell: is kdepim enterprise gonna go into ubuntu hardy ? [12:13] viviersf: nothing planned, we have 3.5.9 currently (which includes most of what enterprise had) [12:13] Riddell: ah ok [12:16] _StefanS_: I was thinking about that [12:16] _StefanS_: your code can even be an extension of knetworkmanager (a big patch) [12:16] _StefanS_: wouldn't that be easier ? [12:16] network manager knows to stop if a static ip is set in /etc/networks/interfaces [12:17] Riddell: yep [12:18] Riddell: I was thinking about that since releasing an app with tarball would require revuing, MIR accepted and so on [12:18] Riddell: pushing the code in knm tarball is easier [12:18] * Tonio_ notices that a lot of kde3 apps are now going kde4, sounds great ;) [12:18] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: I will integrate into knm, I already made some additions to the current version through Helmut schaa that maintains it in suse land [12:19] means lots of packages to do in the future [12:19] <_StefanS_> I know the dialogs.. [12:19] _StefanS_: super [12:19] _StefanS_: ask for help or tests when ready, I'll be very happy to help [12:19] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: sure I will write you a mail if you arent here [12:20] _StefanS_: super ;) [12:20] _StefanS_: I'll have to go tomorrow till sunday, but will be back on sunday afternoon [12:20] _StefanS_: I'll stay connected toonight also [12:21] <_StefanS_> right, I will come up with something [12:22] _StefanS_: you rock ;) [12:22] <_StefanS_> I hope ;) [13:01] wohooo second upgrade to hardy done [13:01] no problems [13:01] awooga [13:02] hmmm anyone else's usplash is gone [13:02] CheGuevara: mine vanished on gutsy [13:03] mine's gone on hardy [13:03] its there for the kernel stage [13:03] but then drops to text [13:05] exactly the same here for gutsy... [13:06] was there a usplash update for u recentely? [13:06] no fresh install and it didn't come up [13:08] oh [13:12] hey umm.. i think i broke my kde4 with Riddell's qt4.4 packages :} . How do i force the removal of a package even if that breaks lots of stuff? I can't downgrade qt unless i somehow remove libqtcore4 [13:14] nm i think i got it [13:17] yup.. all fixed.. [13:17] so i guess qt4.4 wasn't supposed to be installed in a normal hardy? [13:18] works for me [13:18] (mostly) [13:18] hmm [13:18] i tried to run konsole after installing qt4.4 and it complained that it couldn't find libQtSvg.so.4 [13:18] and indeed it was missing [13:20] I'm now in our SummerCode final [13:20] last one doing his presentation [13:20] then when i tried to remove 4.4 dpkg complained that libqt4-gui_4.3.4 was trying to overwrite /usr/lib/qt4/plugins/codecs/libqcncodecs.so , which is also in package libqtcore4 [13:20] Riddell: so stand by, new's coming hopefully in few moments [13:20] news even [13:20] gribelu: libqt4-gui: /usr/lib/libQtSvg.so.4 [13:21] * Riddell holds breath [13:21] Riddell: don't turn blue, even if it's our colour [13:22] haha [13:22] Riddell: in this file? http://ppa.launchpad.net/jr/ubuntu/pool/main/q/qt4-x11/libqt4-gui_4.4.0~beta1-1ubuntu1~ppa1_i386.deb [13:22] i don't have it in there [13:23] I had several hardware failures during last days so my presentation was a tad bit raw [13:23] gribelu: oh, it's in the new libqt4-svg: /usr/lib/libQtSvg.so.4 [13:23] voting is coming, so -> [13:24] oh.. there might be some dependency problem then. libqt4-svg didn't get installed automagically [13:28] yay.. it works [14:14] hmmm ok - I take back that "no problem" for my second hardy install - I can't shut down properly - I just get a black screen and a beautiful white cursor on it after klicking shut down... [14:14] * Nightrose will investigate [14:15] (note: I had problems with this in gutsy already so it is probably not a problem with the upgrade - it just shows worse now) [14:32] Nightrose: working on ksniffer again [14:38] :) cool [14:41] ouch........ [14:41] does "sudo konqueror" work for you people ? I get a X connection error, that worked before [14:42] kdesudo konqueror works for me... [14:44] jussio1: with sudo not kdesudo :) [14:44] Tonio_: but yes, it works fine here to, although arent you not supposed to use sudo with graphical apps? [14:45] jussio1: not supposed to but if it doens't work anymore, that's a regression :) [14:45] Tonio_: well it does work here, albeit with some random errors [14:45] okay so that's my config broken...... [14:46] yeps, I guess so [14:46] yay for planes with maintenance issues [14:51] this is wierd firefox is scrolling and i can't stop it [14:51] till it gets to the bottom of the page [14:56] hi [14:57] how to install ksynaptic in kubuntu hardy (for touchpad)? [14:57] it was in default repositories in gutsy... [14:58] rom: -> #kubuntu [14:58] I asked [14:58] but no answer :( [14:58] is Qt a captial Q and then a capital T or just capital Q lower case t [14:59] jjesse: if you mean the toolkit it is Qt [14:59] QT is QuickTime [14:59] Nightrose: yes i ment the toolkit [14:59] thanks [15:00] now quite important given Qt's QT phonon backend [15:03] i was in barnes and noble the other day and found Ubuntu for Dummies [15:03] now you know something is popular when there is a dummies book [15:03] Nightrose: ksniffer 0.3.2 works for me without starting as root [15:03] Nightrose: the starting as root is required by debian patch, so I wonder if that's really needed [15:05] !info kde4 hardy [15:05] Tonio_: and you can capture packets without problems? [15:06] jjesse: !info is broken [15:06] doh [15:06] kde 4.0.2 correct? [15:06] for hardy [15:07] Nightrose: yep [15:07] should be [15:07] Nightrose: maybe that's just specific fix with 0.3.2 [15:07] Nightrose: fancy testing the package ? [15:07] Tonio_: sure [15:08] Nightrose: gimme a minute to build :) [15:08] Tonio_: no prob - I will try to fix my kdm issue in the mean time ;-) [15:09] ;) [15:10] Nightrose: build started, if you confirm it works for you, I'll upload [15:20] Nightrose: http://toniox.org/temp [15:21] Tonio_: ok downloading and testing [15:21] Nightrose: super :) [15:21] Nightrose: that doesn't explain the kdesudo problem with this, but as long as it works :) [15:22] right [15:22] Nightrose: the fact it doesn't work with kdesudo is a very specific case, I haven't eard of another app not working with it, so.... [15:23] Nightrose: don't test.......... I'm stupid [15:23] hehe ok [15:23] what happened? [15:23] Nightrose: I tested in a sudo -s enabled shell [15:23] so user was still "tonio" but with UID root.... [15:23] ahhh ok [15:24] hrmm when i adjust the size of the panel, the size of the clock doesn't adjust [15:25] jjesse: same here - [15:25] which causes problems if i set the size to tiny [15:26] jep - for me it shows the rest of the clock at the top of the screen then [15:26] Nightrose: it works with kdesu, at least [15:26] but with small it works [15:26] Tonio_: so I can test? ;-) [15:26] Nightrose: /usr/bin/kdesu.distrib ksniffer [15:27] Nightrose: yep, you can :) [15:27] Nightrose: that didn'ty work last time right ? [15:27] so only kdesudo seems to cause an issue this time [15:27] well starting with kdesu worked but I got an error when I wanted to capture packets [15:27] Nightrose: did you do your upgrades in German? [15:27] anyway - I will try [15:28] Riddell: nope - only english systems here [15:29] Riddell: official names of 8.04 are Kubuntu 8.04 and Kubuntu 8.04 Remix? [15:29] (maybe Kubuntu 8.04 KDE 4 Remix?) [15:29] and kde 3 is kde 3.5.9 correct? [15:29] evening Jucato [15:30] good morning jjesse! [15:30] jjesse: Kubuntu 8.04 and Kubuntu 8.04 (KDE 4 Remix) [15:30] can anyone guess what i'm doing? [15:30] jjesse: kde 3 is kde 3.5.9, correct [15:30] jjesse: book? :D [15:31] jpatrick: yes my editor is a slave driver [15:31] jjesse: kde 4 will be kde 4.0.3 [15:31] and so is Riddell :) [15:31] * apachelogger is quite annoyed by forsight linux' installer [15:31] * jjesse is quite annoyed by united airlines [15:34] oh, right, it craped out when writing the bootloader [15:34] * apachelogger has a broken grub [15:34] nomnom [15:36] Tonio_: doesn't capture anything for me still :( - started with "kdesu ksniffer" [15:36] nixternal: what's the weather in chi town today? [15:36] Riddell: no luck, they had to discard something so it was me [15:37] * Nightrose hugs Tm_T [15:37] Riddell: buut I'll do it anyway [15:37] \o/ [15:37] Tm_T: :( [15:38] Nightrose: that's kdesudo [15:38] Nightrose: try /usr/bin/kdesu.distrib [15:38] Nightrose: that's the original kdesu [15:38] k [15:39] wohoooo [15:39] worksforme [15:41] Nightrose: in fact it looks like the kprocess exits immediately, that causes the processExited signal to be emmited [15:41] Nightrose: I just patched for some debug code to see what happens [15:41] ok [15:43] Riddell: what except KProcess::detach can cause a program to detach ? [15:43] Riddell: ksniffer detaches itself, but there is no "detach" info in the code.... [15:44] KUniqueApplication will detach [15:46] Nightrose: give me the money !!!!!!!!!! [15:46] that's now fixed issue :) [15:46] haha [15:46] lots of chance since my debugging code fixes :) [15:47] Riddell: oki :) [15:47] Nightrose: fancy testing ? [15:47] * Tonio_ is probably the worst coder ever, but a very lucky one :) [15:48] Nightrose: can you grab http://toniox.org/temp and test please ? [15:48] lol [15:48] Tonio_: she probably broke her X completly now [15:48] apachelogger: ;) [15:49] haha [15:49] nope I did not [15:49] Tonio_: will test in a sec [15:49] oki [15:49] apachelogger: works better now - thx :P [15:49] not perfect yet though [15:49] i'm sometimes amazed at what i see people wearing when i'm in the airport [15:49] Nightrose: re-tested and confirmed it works [15:50] Nightrose: the issue was that the sniff process is started without "notifyonexit" statement [15:50] Nightrose: but the processexited is checked [15:50] ah I see [15:51] Nightrose: for some reason, that code error works when started as it should, but fails when the application is started inside a kprocess [15:51] Nightrose: that, don't ask me why....... [15:51] ;-) [15:51] when i finsih an install of 8.04 in ubiquity i can't remember if there is then a prompt for a reboot which actually reboots your machine [15:51] Nightrose: but this is clearly a bug in the code [15:52] can someone confirm or deny that? [15:54] Tonio_: you are awesome :P [15:54] worksforme [15:54] Nightrose: another issue : the "jumping forever" icon [15:55] ? [15:55] Nightrose: looks like the same issue happens somewhere in the code, and the kdesudo kprocess doesn't know the app is started..... I'm trying to fix out that one [15:55] ok [15:55] Nightrose: when started fro mwithin the kmenu, the ksniffer icon jumps forever [15:55] hmm doesn't for me [15:55] kde 3 or 4? [15:56] Nightrose: I'm not awasome, I had some chance, that'll all :) [15:56] hehe [16:03] Nightrose: hum nope, the jumping icon is a kdesudo bugs back with latest version.....; damn :'( [16:03] well that's not a big bug [16:04] Nightrose: I'll contact upstream with the patch for ksniffer [16:04] Nightrose: and will upload in a few minutes [16:05] wow so i use simply a lot in the book [16:11] Tonio_: great - thx :) === \sh is now known as \sh_away [17:15] I'm porting asoundconf to qt4 where can I get pyuic4? [17:16] xRaich[o]2x: Look at python-kde4. I think it's there, but I'm not sure. [17:16] !info pyqt4-dev-tools [17:17] yuriy: !info == broken [17:17] oh [17:17]