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Odd_BlokeAh, 'very very soon' to downtime o'clock. :p00:00
Odd_BlokeAnyhow, bedtime for me.00:01
Odd_BlokeGood luck with the downtime. :)00:01
Rinchenthere's one good thing about LP being down... I can catch up on my email!00:02
mpt*Next month* the offline page will be centered properly.00:02
RinchenI was just thinking about that00:02
mptIt's centered properly in the code that's landing now. :-)00:02
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mptSee, now it's centered!00:27
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emgent:)00:29
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stgrabermpt: you sure the maitenance is over ? :) https://edge.launchpad.net/~stgraber generates a oops here ...00:35
mptstgraber, Launchpad is working for people who aren't beta testers00:37
mptWe're investigating the problem with edge.launchpad.net00:37
stgraberok00:37
mptAs a workaround you could (1) clear your cookies, (2) log in at <https://launchpad.net/+login>, and (3) click the "Disable redirection" button00:38
FujitsuThe update took a quarter of the time it was meant to!?00:38
Fujitsumpt: Or just go to launchpad.net and disable it.00:39
mptah yes, that's an even better idea00:40
FujitsuSomebody hasn't updated news.launchpad.net yet...00:41
FujitsuMailing lists are out of beta?00:41
FujitsuThe featured projects list is getting a bit long...00:41
FujitsuYay, Latest Memberships is actually useful now!00:42
RinchenFujitsu, you're welcome!00:43
emgenthi Fujitsu :)00:43
FujitsuUm, why is there a mailing-list-beta-testers project at all? And, even better, why is there a webcam blueprint? To top it off, it's proposed for some bogus sprint. How interesting.00:44
RinchenFujitsu, we have some dusting and cleaning to due after the rollout 00:44
RinchenFujitsu, we didn't want to remove it before because it would break the beta testers00:44
FujitsuAha.00:44
FujitsuAre blueprint-killing features on the roadmap? There's so much blueprint spam these days.00:45
RinchenI am a VERY strong supporter of that and have been pushing for some blueprint love 00:45
Rinchenwe're booked out for the next 4 cycles already but I'm hoping to get some time after that dedicated to some blueprint enhancements.00:46
FujitsuHave all Blueprint people pbeen reassigned? There seems to have been very little done it lately.00:47
kikookay, we're back00:48
kikoFujitsu, yeah, they've been retargeted at bugs for 2.0; it will probly change post-July00:48
Fujitsukiko: Aha, thanks.00:49
kikostgraber, edge is back online now. sorry for the disturbance, once of the appservers didn't want to die.00:49
FujitsuSomebody forgot to publish the new feature items on news.l.n?00:49
RinchenFujitsu, it's coming :-D00:57
kikoFujitsu, we normally wait until the next morning to do that00:57
kikothe reason we wait is if there's some showstopper it's nice to not tell everybody to go and use it. :)00:57
Fujitsukiko: So there are 404s from the homepage.01:00
kikoFujitsu, nice 404s or bad 404s?01:00
warrenhttp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ltsp-upstream/ltsp/ltsp-trunk/files01:01
ubotuNew bug: #208051 in launchpad "Old email when I added GPG Key" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20805101:01
warrenError 500 Internal error01:01
FujitsuAh, there aren't any more.01:01
kikowarren, I think mthaddon is on that (yes?)01:01
mthaddonkiko, warren: yes, working with the bzrlp team to get the codebrowse working after this deployment01:02
warrenok thanks, just making sure it wasn't my fault01:02
kikowarren, never your fault!01:03
warrenyou don't know me =)01:03
kikowarren, you the guy who stepped on the cable to gandwana? it's okay to admit it, mthaddon has gotten over it01:04
mthaddonha ha!!01:04
warrenkiko, yes, all the way from Massachusetts.01:05
kikoshh I'm getting him to confess01:05
* Fujitsu suspects server-favouritism in the LP team.01:05
Fujitsugandwana is the only app server ever mentioned.01:05
kikowe found the culprit!!!01:05
warrenmuhahah01:05
* warren has no idea what gandwana is.01:05
kikoit's our second appserver01:06
kikothe first one is called gangotri01:06
kikothe third one is called potassium01:06
kikoit's funny Fujitsu 01:07
kikoI think you're right01:07
FujitsuI've seen quite a number of references to gandwana.01:07
FujitsuBut I've only ever seen gangotri in emails.01:07
kikobecause today, when we were bonking after the rollout, gandwana was the only one busted, and yet the only one I got.01:07
FujitsuA number of references to gandwana here, that is.01:08
FujitsuI was impressed at the short downtime, I must say.01:09
kikoit was supposed to be a whole 20 minutes shorter :-(01:11
kikoI asked mthaddon about this on the phone but be says that gandwana is not anybody's favorite01:11
kikoI am not so sure about that01:11
FujitsuWhy was the window 2 hours, if you expected it to take 10 minutes?01:12
slangasekit seems to be murphy's favorite :)01:12
slangasekwell, congrats on successfully overbudgeting the maintenance window so much that I had to come join the channel to make sure this wasn't an aborted upgrade ;)01:15
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kiko-zzzheh01:37
* Hobbsee counts 3 more bug maisl that she didn't want to get01:48
Hobbseeis launchpad planning to do anything for the developer week?01:53
* beuno wonders if the current mailing list archive can/will be moved to the new LP ones02:03
ubotuNew bug: #208082 in launchpad "There are a number of conf inconsistencies between lazr and zconfig" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20808203:18
ubotuNew bug: #208085 in launchpad "There is no login.edge.launchpad.net" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20808503:18
emgenthi mark04:16
sabdflhi emgent04:28
Hobbseesabdfl: stopped holidaying yet?  :)04:29
sabdflHobbsee: alas, yes04:30
Hobbseeawww04:30
sabdflamazing week in jackson, then another in BC04:30
sabdflhow's life down under?04:32
Hobbseesabdfl: pretty good.  lots of uni, etc.04:32
Hobbseenot enough sleep04:32
Hobbseealways fun04:33
sabdflgood point04:35
ubotuNew bug: #208101 in launchpad "Can't edit e-mail address" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20810104:35
sabdfland on that note, i should get some sleep :-)04:35
Hobbseeheh, goodnight04:37
HobbseeDUPE!04:44
Hobbseethat's one of my pet hate bugs.04:44
* Hobbsee marks as such04:46
ubotuNew bug: #208116 in rosetta "Unreadable plural formula on language page" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20811605:55
pooliecan someone explain the difference between dogfood and edge to me?06:05
pooliemaybe my mail can...06:05
poolienup06:15
Fujitsupoolie: dogfood runs on a different database, and is (I believe) largely for Soyuz devs to test things.06:16
FujitsuSo it's sort of like staging, except that it doesn't always run on RF, I think.06:17
pooliethanks06:28
pooliedid the ui for deleting ppa packages go away or move?06:53
pooliei can't see it anymore in https://edge.launchpad.net/~bzr/+archive06:53
jameshpoolie: I see a "Delete packages" link in the actions menu on my PPA06:54
pooliei think it used to be there?06:56
ubotuNew bug: #208126 in launchpad "ui for deleting ppa packages has disappeared!" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20812607:05
pooliei guess ppa builds are slow atm because of the impending hardy release making the builders busy?07:06
Hobbseepoolie: the ppas are separate07:06
Hobbseepoolie: someone probably threw a whole bunch of langpacks at them again.07:06
Hobbseeyeah07:08
Hobbseepoolie: what did you want?07:08
Hobbsee36 more langpacks to go, at least from that builder.07:08
Hobbsee(https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-langpack/+archive/+builds is always a good candidate to check)07:09
_sebastian_hi all, I need help from a admin on launchpad, to delete something07:14
_sebastian_ADMIN07:15
poolieHobbsee: well i wanted https://edge.launchpad.net/~bzr/+archive/+builds to build07:16
poolie_sebastian_: i'll look07:17
_sebastian_can u del my cleartext email from https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-system-monitor/+bug/194953/comments/11 ?07:18
ubotuLaunchpad bug 194953 in gnome-system-monitor "gnome-system-monitor resources graphs unstable on window resize" [Undecided,Confirmed]  - Assigned to Ubuntu Desktop Bugs (desktop-bugs)07:18
* Hobbsee flicks some magic switches for poolie07:19
poolie_sebastian_: what is the problem exactly?07:19
poolieyou want the whole comment deleted?07:19
poolieoh i see07:19
_sebastian_ubik replied to my post on launchpad and he left my mail in cleartext07:19
poolienote that non-logged-in launchpad users (and presumably spam bots) will see "<email address hidden>"07:20
_sebastian_yes thats what I like to change07:20
_sebastian_can one of u take the cleartext mail adress out of there07:21
pooliei mean it's already hidden unless you are logged in07:22
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poolieif you want it deleted entirely can you please open a ticket in answers.launchpad.net/launchpad07:23
pooliei don't have access to change it myself07:23
_sebastian_uhm I see, sorry for that07:23
Hobbseepoolie: good, the magic switches still work.07:23
pooliewow07:24
Hobbseehrm?07:24
pooliei did not realize there was a magic switch for that?07:24
poolies/?//07:24
Hobbseepoolie: there is, but very few people have it.07:24
Hobbseepoolie: obviously, it can be abused very easily07:24
Hobbseepoolie: you almost need a duck for it.07:25
* Hobbsee is probably the only non-canonicalite that has access to it.07:25
\shwow...mailinglists, filedownloads...you guys really want to beat the shit out of sourceforge.net ... congrats :)07:25
_sebastian_then this is fine, I thought it is vissible to _all_, thanks alot07:25
Fujitsu\sh: IMO they win over SF.net by a looong way already.07:26
FujitsuThe bugtracker is actually not entirely useless.07:26
\shFujitsu: LP needs more projects ... I mean "real long staying, heavy use of infrastructure projects" 07:28
\shthe only thing I'm missing now is a possibility to get cpu compile time power via shell as sf.net had offered in the past...dunno if they still do07:28
FujitsuI believe SF closed down the compile farm some time ago.07:29
pooliewell, you can get it, you just need to use ppas07:29
poolienow that everyone uses x86 or x86_64 it's not so much needed </troll>07:29
poolieanyhow it is pretty cool that lists are live07:30
FujitsuIt's unfortunate that list membership is bound to teams, and all team members can post.07:31
FujitsuNo announcement lists.07:32
HobbseeFujitsu: bonus points if you can create an infinite loop by subscribing a list to a list.07:32
Hobbseeer, a list to itself.07:32
_sebastian_cu 07:33
* Fujitsu looks up the mass bug editing specs which were due six months ago.07:33
FujitsuI could really use them nowadays.07:33
HobbseeFujitsu: there was something on the ML about that.07:33
* Fujitsu looks.07:34
FujitsuIch sehe es nicht!07:34
Hobbseemaybe it's only mass editing dupes. could probably be generalised, though07:34
FujitsuAh, using p-l-b?07:35
Hobbseeyes07:36
\shFujitsu: lol...learning the german language?07:38
Fujitsu\sh: I've know it a little for some years. Not sure why I decided to abuse it there.07:39
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poolie\sh, Fujitsu: out of curiousity what would you personally most like fixed/changed in lp?07:39
FujitsuThe license :P07:39
* Hobbsee raises eyebrows07:40
Hobbseewhat a question07:40
FujitsuI'd like release nomination to be fixed. THat's the feature I use most.07:40
FujitsuMalone is pretty good on the whole, but there are a few little bugs which make it annoying to work with at times.07:41
\shpoolie: 1. I would like to use it in our company...2. fix malone to not send out mails of invalid packages in the bug report07:45
Hobbseepoolie: is that open for anyone to answer?07:45
\shpoolie: and you need more "scrum management" features in LP :)07:45
jmlHobbsee: it's not like the channel is moderated :)07:46
jmlHobbsee: I'd be interested to hear you'd most like fixed.07:46
Hobbseejml: i realise that, but i suspected the feedback was actually going to do some good, rather than just cueing random ranting.07:46
Hobbseehence, wasn't sure who it was open to07:46
jmlHobbsee: well, if you stick to one thing, it's not ranting :)07:47
* jml demolishes an apple with his bare hands07:47
Hobbseejml: i'd like to see a focus on actually fixing bugs for a while, and to really get in touch with what users actually want, rather than what the LP developers think they want.07:47
poolieHobbsee: sure07:48
poolielol re random ranting07:48
poolieone-line rants are ok07:48
pooliei cannot promise i can get anything done but i do try07:49
carlosmorning07:49
* \sh just needs a price for launchpad as box product and an address where to order it ;)07:49
Hobbseemorning carlos 07:49
* Odd_Bloke would like to know what has changed in a given LP rollout (or know where to find that info if it already exists).07:49
jmlcarlos: hello :)07:49
HobbseeOdd_Bloke: launchpad-users@lists.ubuntu.com07:49
HobbseeOdd_Bloke: it doesn't seem to list everything, though.  most of it07:49
jmlOdd_Bloke: *surely* that goes to the web somewhere...07:49
* Odd_Bloke doesn't see anything on there for this release.07:49
Odd_Bloke*looks again*07:49
poolienews.launchpad.net?07:50
\shplanet.ubuntu.com?07:50
Fujitsupoolie: Aren't you some bzr manager person, not an LP dev, these days?07:50
pooliehttps://help.launchpad.net/LaunchpadReleases07:50
pooliei always have been07:50
FujitsuI haven't seen release notes for 1.2.3 anywhere yet.07:50
pooliebut i care about lp too07:50
poolie\sh: elliot@canonical.com would at least like to hear you say so07:51
Fujitsupoolie: I thought you might have been an LP dev in a past life, given your membership in ~launchpad.07:51
\shhttps://news.launchpad.net/ -> secure connection failed...or you need to have an exception.....WTF?07:51
jmlFujitsu: poolie just cares a lot about Launchpad.07:51
Odd_BlokeYeah, news.launchpad.net seems to be most germane in this case.07:52
\shpoolie: so I can buy the LP product and install it somewhere else? :)07:52
FujitsuHuh, news.launchpad.net worked for me a few hours ago.07:52
poolieno, i just said you should tell him you want to07:52
FujitsuBut now it has a bogus cert.07:52
\shpoolie: oh :) now I got it :)07:53
Odd_BlokeI'd still like the more detailed not-for-the-average-end-user changelog available _somewhere_.07:53
poolieFujitsu: actually i mostly asked cause i'm waiting for my things to build, even with hobbsee fairy dust07:53
jmlOdd_Bloke: the 1.2.2 ones are up. I wonder where the 1.2.3 ones are07:53
Hobbseepoolie: how long has it been building for now?07:54
* Hobbsee looks07:54
FujitsuIt'd be very nice to be able to subscribe to the LP pqm to actually see what has changed, but I really can't see that happening.07:54
Hobbseeoh, ther'es more07:54
* Hobbsee sprinkles more fairy dus07:55
Hobbseet07:55
Hobbseewonder why they didn't show up the first time07:55
pooliei made a mistake in my upload07:55
* Fujitsu catches some for future use.07:55
poolieand i put some more up after you did it the first time07:55
Hobbseepoolie: ahhh07:55
Hobbseepoolie: so i'm not going mad, then.07:55
Odd_BlokeUnless you're imagining this entire conversation...07:56
HobbseeOdd_Bloke: well, i might be doing that.07:56
jmlbasil is so good.07:58
jmlwhy do I write computer programs when I could be growing basil.07:58
Fujitsujml: Because you can write programs to program things to grow basil for you. More quickly. Or something.07:59
Odd_BlokeYou can write programs to make money to buy either basil itself or the equipment to grow basil.08:00
FujitsuThat works.08:00
Odd_BlokeAlso I think you'd have to have a fairly major basil-growing operation before programming and basil-growing became mutually exclusive.08:00
Odd_BlokeAnyhow, enough of this gay banter, I'm off to Scotland for a week.08:02
jmlhave fun08:04
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pooliei think OB has a point there :)08:14
poolieyou could create a programming language called Basil as a poignant reminder of when you actually used to grow it08:15
* mdke kicks LP08:18
Fujitsumdke: That's what it's there for.08:18
mdkeI guess everyone is checking out the new features and it's slowed it down?08:18
cprovpoolie: hi, are you sure about bug 208126 ? nothing changed in the code, you and lifeless (team-admin) should be able to see the action link to delete packages in bzr PPA.08:25
ubotuLaunchpad bug 208126 in launchpad "ui for deleting ppa packages has disappeared!" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20812608:25
Hobbseeit shows here08:27
pooliecprov: i may be going mad08:27
FujitsuI was able to see it on staging.08:27
pooliebut, where is the link supposed to be?08:27
poolie!08:27
poolieoh08:27
Hobbseepoolie: left hand panel?08:27
pooliei think i had logged out from l.n, when helping sebastian with the confidentiality thing before08:28
FujitsuHaha, nice.08:28
poolieso yes, tis invalid08:28
poolieuh08:28
pooliei find it confusing (though at another level understandable) that you can be logged in on edge but not on production, or vice versa08:29
FujitsuWasn't SSO targetted to around now?08:30
pooliei don't know if that fixes it 08:31
FujitsuIt should, but it appears not to have made 1.2.3...08:32
Fujitsupoolie: Make bzr faster. kthxbye08:40
FujitsuI've been waiting for this (fairly small, but lots of files) branch to checkout over bzr+ssh for well over an hour now...08:41
ubotuNew bug: #191782 in launchpad "Slony1 1.2.13 for hardy? ( postgresql 8.3 capable )" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/19178208:42
FujitsuWhat a Launchpad bug.08:42
FujitsuAh.08:42
FujitsuI see.08:42
poolieFujitsu: is it a knit branch?08:46
poolieor can you tell me the url, if its public?08:46
Fujitsu/~fujitsu/ubuntu-cve-tracker/main/08:46
FujitsuGot 2.9MiB so far...08:46
FujitsuHmm, the ssh process is sitting in selects for most of the time.08:50
* poolie looks08:53
poolieFujitsu: it's an old knit format branch08:57
poolieif you upgrade it to packs it will be much faster08:57
poolie(in fact there is a discussion on the list atm about whether we should give a warning to do so)08:58
poolieFujitsu: so, um08:58
FujitsuCan one merge from pack branches to knit branches, or do I need to get Kees to upgrade the main one as well?08:58
poolieyou can merge08:58
poolietransparently08:58
pooliehowever he'll probably want to upgrade too08:58
FujitsuI remember it refused to merge between two branches of different types, but that was a while ago.08:58
poolieso08:59
FujitsuLP can't upgrade it for me, can it?08:59
FujitsuCan I upgrade without checking the whole thing out?08:59
poolienot at the moment08:59
pooliehowever, if you file a support request someone can do it as a one-off probably 08:59
FujitsuChecking it out will be orders of magnitude faster, I think.09:00
FujitsuThanks for looking at it!09:00
poolieyou're welcome, thanks for asking09:04
ubotuNew bug: #198310 in soyuz "Distribution Package Search page has duplicate binary package links" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/19831009:36
ubotuNew bug: #199101 in soyuz "Please allow binary PPA->-proposed copying for language packs" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/19910109:36
ubotuNew bug: #203927 in soyuz "Binary package page raising SQLObjectMoreThanOneResultError " [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20392709:41
ubotuNew bug: #204444 in soyuz "cron.germinate: interpret Task-Seeds in seed headers" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20444409:41
warp10If I open a Mailing List for a team on Launchpad, is it possible to import mailbox files into it, in case I used a ML hosted elsewhere already (for the sake of keeping the whole mail archive in the new LP ML)?10:01
lommetennisI reported one of those duplicates of the "Tomboy SIGSEGV" bug report (#199496), and so far I have recieved close to a 100 duplicate messages, and they just keep on coming in! As my (duplicate) bug report is not listed as one of my reported bug reports, how am I supposed to find out which duplicate is mine?10:17
poolielommetennis: look for the original mail probably10:18
lommetennisOooh. That will take a while. Is there no way to do it a bit more elegant through some klunky/nice(?) Launchpad interface?10:19
Fujitsulommetennis: You can do an advanced search on the product.10:20
FujitsuOr, better still, an advanced search on /people/+me/+reportedbugs.10:20
FujitsuUncheck the `Exclude duplicates' box.10:20
lommetennisok. will try that out. (think I did try out, but perhaps I didn't check the right checkbox)10:22
james_wHi, some of the images on launchpad look really low quality at the moment, is that known?10:29
jameshjames_w: can you be more specific?10:33
james_wjamesh: sorry, in particular https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution10:33
james_wthe ubuntu and "report a bug" images look bad10:34
james_wI'm running firefox 3 on hardy10:34
Fujitsujames_w: Try zooming in and out a bit; you're probably on a strange zoom level.10:34
jameshjames_w: they look the same as before to me.10:34
james_wah yeah, thanks Fujitsu 10:35
james_weverything looks the same size now, but they are correct.10:35
jameshfirefox 3 scales images with the text, iirc10:36
james_wI must have been on 99% zoom or something10:36
lommetennisfinally I was unsubscribed. just un-checking "Hide duplicate bugs" was not enough. I had to check of all the relevant fields as well, in this case "Invalid". Thanks for the help!10:38
FujitsuThis is why people shouldn't change the status of bugs when they mark them invalid.10:39
FujitsuEr, when they mark them as duplicate.10:39
ubotuNew bug: #208185 in malone "GPG signatures end up as attachments to bugs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20818510:40
lommetenniswhat do you mean with "change status"? Have I done this, or the "Assignee" of the bug?10:40
Fujitsulommetennis: Whoever marked it as a duplicate. Very probably not you.10:41
lommetennisIndeed quite probable :D10:41
lommetennisciao10:46
Hobbseepoolie: i find it more confusing that you can log into edge the first time, yet it doesn't actually take effect until you log in the second time.10:47
FujitsuTook two hours to checkout, but it's done! Yay.10:49
dokokiko-zzz: Add a checkbox "Mark this comment as irrelevant" ;)11:52
HobbseeBug 19189212:21
ubotuLaunchpad bug 191892 in soyuz "Unsuperseded binaries can't be deleted from PPAs" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191892 - Assigned to Celso Providelo (cprov)12:21
emgentheya12:42
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ubotuNew bug: #208228 in blueprint "OOPS rendering blueprint dependency graph. Subprocess couldn't allocate memory" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20822812:55
ubotuNew bug: #208233 in soyuz "Distribution architecture series binary package raising SQLObjectMoreThanOneResultError" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20823313:22
ubotuNew bug: #208238 in launchpad "Archive mailing lists automatically on Gmane" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20823813:35
ubotuNew bug: #208239 in malone "Typo on user +branding pages" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20823913:40
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warp10If I open a Mailing List for a team on Launchpad, is it possible to import mailbox files into it, in case I used a ML hosted elsewhere already (for the sake of keeping the whole mail archive in the new LP ML)?14:27
salgadowarp10, I don't think that's possible, but barry would be the right person to ask14:39
barrywarp10: not automatically, but it should be something we can do manually.  we haven't actually /done/ it yet, but i think it's possible ;)14:40
warp10ok, salgado, thank you14:40
warp10barry: sounds good. A procedure could be opening a request in answer, right?14:41
beunobarry, how about moving the current archive from lists.ubuntu.com?  :)14:41
beunothat sounds like something almost everyone would want14:41
barrywarp10: yep14:42
barrywarp10: you'll have to create your lp mailing list first though14:42
warp10barry: yeah, of course. Ok, thank you very much!14:42
barrybeuno: same thing :)  open a request in answers and that should be something we can do for you.  of course you don't /have/ to move your list from ubuntu.com14:42
barrywarp10: np!14:43
beunobarry, well, I don't, but this whole LP thing will be magic against spammers  ;)14:43
beunoso I'm looking forward to having to stop deleting dozens of emails from the queue14:43
barrybeuno: yes, i think lp has some unique abilities to reduce spam and still keep things fairly open14:44
emgentbarry: hi14:45
barryemgent: hi!14:45
emgentcan i talk with you in query?14:45
emgenti have new security issue for launchpad14:45
SteveAhi emgent 15:01
emgenthi SteveA 15:02
rkerrhi, i have a branch on launchpad that's been locked since last night and i'm not sure how to unlock it.15:13
rkerrjust run break-lock with the uri i guess?15:19
beunorkerr, yeap15:40
rkerrbeuno: thanks. worked :)15:43
fredreichbierHello. I have a question: are there some other translator variables like `translator-credits`?15:43
kiko-zzzdoko, yeah16:07
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gvyhalo16:12
gvy<gvy> 500 Internal error: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~shigorin/ltsp/ltsp-altlinux/annotate/ledest%40gmail.com-20080327153943-sk2gdajsrinxfd7p?file_id=ltspcommonfunctions-20080312182155-3niy8jrp3s3218mg-116:12
gvy<gvy> should it be reported somewhere?16:12
gvy<ogra> gvy, ask #launchpad16:12
gvythat's about all of bugreport... bb16:15
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stgraberis it only me or bazaar.launchpad.net is horribly slow today ? (2 minutes to push a 6 lines change)16:32
ubotuNew bug: #151136 in launchpad-documentation "Most links on "BugTrackerDocumentation" page don't work" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/15113616:32
fredreichbierdito stgraber16:32
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ubotuNew bug: #184785 in launchpad-documentation "Images in blog posts have border" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18478517:11
ubotuNew bug: #121664 in launchpad-documentation "news.launchpad.net uses three slightly-different typefaces" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/12166417:32
ubotuNew bug: #206137 in launchpad-documentation "there is no page describing key retrieval for using asc files." [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20613717:32
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ubotuNew bug: #204377 in soyuz "Help for builds page show explain idle machines" [Undecided,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20437717:41
ubotuNew bug: #208377 in launchpad "Oops updating +contactaddress of a team with mailing list" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20837718:22
ubotuNew bug: #208386 in launchpad-documentation "The favicon for the help wiki does not display" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20838618:26
ubotuNew bug: #208407 in launchpad "Sanitize LaunchpadValidationError callsites" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20840718:46
ubotuNew bug: #208416 in launchpad "web standarts problem" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20841619:01
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ubotuNew bug: #208431 in launchpad "OOPS trying to subscribe to inactive mailing list" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20843119:31
ubotuNew bug: #208456 in malone "Hibernate fails on HP 530" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20845620:15
jmehdihi20:19
jkakarIs bzr integration (bound branch commit) with LP unusually slow right now or am I just impatient?20:20
jmehdiI want to upload my code to this project: https://launchpad.net/webstrict/ but bazaar gives me an error:  ERROR: Not a branch: /home/jc/projects/webstrict/bazaar/20:20
beunojkakar, just today, they upgraded some stuff and i think it's bisbehaving20:21
beunojmehdi, what command are you running?20:22
jmehdithis one: bzr push bzr+ssh://jmehdi@bazaar.launchpad.net/~jmehdi/webstrict/trunk20:22
beunojmehdi, right, run:  bzr status20:23
beunoand tell me what it says20:23
beunoit would seem you are not in a branch20:23
jkakarbeuno: Ah, cool, thanks.20:23
jmehdibzr: ERROR: Not a branch: /home/jc/projects/webstrict/bazaar/, so how can I create a branch ?20:23
beunojmehdi, are you in the root directory of what you want to be versioned?20:24
jmehdiyes20:24
beunowell, then do:   bzr init20:24
beunothen: bzr add20:24
beunoand finally:  bzr commit -m'A nice descriptive message of the start of the project'20:24
LarstiQthere wasn't prior work?20:24
beunojmehdi, also, take a look at: http://doc.bazaar-vcs.org/latest/en/mini-tutorial/index.html20:25
jmehdigreat tutorial, I was reading that: https://help.launchpad.net/FeatureHighlights/EasyBranching but your page is more easy to understand20:28
beunojmehdi, feel free to drop by #bzr if you need more help using it  :)20:30
jmehdiseems to work now, slow... but in progress :)20:31
beunojmehdi, yes, LP has been laggy today20:32
beunoRinchen, ^   :p20:32
kikobeuno, has it?20:35
beunokiko, I've seen 4 or 5 complain about it today already20:36
kikobeuno, about what?20:36
beunokiko, LP being extremely slow today20:36
beunoespecially th code hosting20:36
beunostgraber complained a few hours back20:37
kikobeuno, that's kinda subjective -- I know it may be true, but it's hard for me to assess what's wrong20:37
beunoand someone else, who I don't have in my backlog ATM20:37
beunokiko, right, just pointing it out, it seemed odd so many people complained today, and it's been slower for me today too20:38
kikobeuno, just codehosting?20:38
jkakarkiko: FWIW, it's taking upwards of 20 minutes to commit a revision to a hosted branch from here.  Normally it's 1 or 2 minutes max.20:39
jkakarkiko: Pushing branches is also very slow.20:39
beunokiko, I haven't used much codehosting today, but bugs have been really slow for me20:39
kikohmmm20:39
kikoit seems normal to me, bugs20:39
LarstiQbazaar-vcs.org also seemed slow, could be a fluke or my end20:39
kikoit's been very fast for me20:42
beuno:/20:43
beunobtw, is this normal?    This team's mailing list is active at ubuntu-ar@gandwana.canonical.com. 20:43
Rinchenbeuno, no, it's a bug that we have a fix for20:44
Rinchenit'll be fixed up later today20:44
Rinchenbeuno, you're only seeing that on edge, correct?20:44
beunoRinchen, yeap20:48
beunoI haven't looked in normal LP20:48
Rinchenbeuno, ok, it'll be fixed up later today I think.20:48
beunoRinchen, no hurries, just thought it was a bit odd  :)20:49
Rinchenbeuno, it actually causes a problem if you execute certain ....maneuvers...so we'll get that deployed soon20:49
Rinchen:-)20:49
* beuno is curious about what "problem" and "maneuvers" would be...20:50
john__Is this the right place to ask an admin to undo a stupid error on my part? I mixed up two release numbers, and now the old release shows up as most recent.20:50
john__At <https://launchpad.net/jsonlib>, 1.3.1 should come after 1.3.0.20:51
beunobtw, Rinchen, you and your fridge-love rock   :)20:51
Rinchenbeuno, thanks. I try when I can get some spare time. Doesn't happen much around here. :-)20:52
beunoRinchen, no?  now that the mailing lists are out of beta, I would of thought Launchpad was finished...20:54
Rinchenlol20:54
Rinchenkiko, barry ^^20:54
RinchenOk barry you can go home now20:55
* Rinchen laughs.20:55
* barry goes home20:55
barryRinchen: sorry was there a question you had forme?20:56
LarstiQbarry: 21:54:20 < beuno> Rinchen, no?  now that the mailing lists are out of beta, I would of thought Launchpad was finished...20:56
kikolaunchpad isn't finished. my friday is finished. :-(20:56
barryLarstiQ: ah :)  my work here is done20:58
lagahello :)22:31
lagais it possible that bzr pushing to lp is a bit slow at the moment? or is that just my side of things?22:31
beunokiko, ^22:31
kikolaga, a lot of people have said that today; I've emailed the team to see if anybody's up on the weekend to figure it out22:31
beuno;)22:31
beunokiko, I even have people in facebook with "bzr checkouts are slow today"22:31
kikofacebook!22:31
laga"current mood: sad" ;)22:33
lagakiko: thanks.22:33
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blueyedis bazaar.launchpad.net down? (through ssh)23:01
lagablueyed: just slow.23:02
lagavery slow. :)23:02
blueyedlaga: well.. I've though it got stuck.. after canceling "bzr", the "ssh" process was still around.23:03
FujitsuRidiculously slow, I'd say. Took 114 minutes to pull down a 12MB knit branch...23:03
FujitsuThe first time it just hung.23:04
FujitsuLike blueyed says.23:04
FujitsuI killed it, and it worked the second time.23:04
blueyedluckily it's a dvcs :p23:05
blueyedAre there plans to implement something like gittorrent for bzr?23:05
ubotuNew bug: #208539 in launchpad "Private Blueprints" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20853923:07
lagablueyed: i did the same.. too bad i was pushing when i CTRL+C'ed it.23:10
lagablueyed: binding to the branch and running bzr break-lock helps in that case ;)23:11
RinchenWe're looking into the bzr issues. 23:11
beunoRinchen, did you guys deploy bzr 1.3 at the same time of the LP update?23:12
RinchenI did find some anomalous log entries and an email has been sent to the right devs23:12
Rinchenbeuno, yes23:12
Rinchenbeuno, that is... we dogfood bzr inside lp23:12
beunoRinchen, ah, so it might be a regression in bzr...23:13
beunoright right, I knew that, just wasn't sure _when_ you guys deployed 1.323:13
RinchenThe bzr-LP guys come in on Sunday afternoon UTC so they should have a look then23:13
RinchenI found what look like communications errors in the logs but am not smart enough to know why23:14
Rinchenso, please bear with us.23:14
beunoRinchen, might be worth poking some people in #bzr?23:14
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sistpotyhi, I'd like to find out, if haskell-utils was already published on lpia, which page should I look at?23:58
sistpoty(the most recent upload i.e.)23:58

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