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calcbug 20806201:19
ubotuLaunchpad bug 208062 in shared-mime-info "Add support for MS Word 2007 Formats - Needed for OOo" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20806201:19
calc^ fix it please ;-)01:19
marnanelcalc: who are you talking to?  I'm confused02:01
calcthe channel :)02:04
calcanyone who feels like working on it :)02:04
AlgorithmicContrIs the Music Applet installed by default in Ubuntu?02:40
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jarosser06_howdy yall04:06
dholbachgood morning05:56
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seb128hello there08:37
seb128hey dholbach08:37
dholbachhiya seb12808:38
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seb128lool: hey, I guess you are really busy as everybody else, but do you chance you will look to the sponsoring request waiting for you today? I did gnome-bluetooth yesterday, I'll also get this bluez-gnome change to fix nautilus-sendto if you are too busy, it's getting late and I don't want that to be broken in hardy if not required08:39
dholbachseb128: nautilus-sendto needs FFE?08:40
seb128dholbach: depends of the changes, I didn't look at it yet, the update is on my list for today08:40
dholbachok... ember did it already - I can subscribe you to the bug (new upstream version) - it looks OK to me08:41
seb128bah08:41
seb128what is the bug number?08:41
dholbachbug 20810808:41
seb128danke08:41
dholbachde rien08:41
crevettesalut seb12808:43
crevettesalut daniel08:43
seb128lut crevette08:43
dholbachhi crevette08:43
seb128crevette: I've sponsored your gnome-bluetooth update, thanks08:43
crevetteseb128, yeah I saw that  thanks a lot08:44
seb128crevette: you can mark it uploaded on revu or whatever they change there, I've no account to comment08:44
sorena/win 708:48
sorengah08:48
loolseb128: Yes, I know about them; I'd like to do them, but I have more urgent AR to process today08:58
seb128lool: ok, I'll do it today, the change is not trivial and the sooner the better so it can get testing08:58
seb128lool: I'll upload on the basis that redhat is using it and some users tried to apply the patch with success08:59
loolOk, thanks08:59
seb128lool: you are welcome08:59
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loolseb128: I wonder why there ain't a totem-plugins-extra -> gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad dep09:02
loolseb128: I was hoping to close #191952 with your totem change09:02
loolBut there's still a dep in the GStreamer plugins09:03
seb128bug #19195209:03
ubotuLaunchpad bug 191952 in gst-plugins-bad0.10 "Remove mysql dependency for LPIA" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/19195209:04
seb128lool: no special reason, I just didn't know that was to change, feel free to do a quick fix and upload if you want, otherwise something to change in the next upload09:05
loolseb128: And concerning #191952, did you have an idea on how to address it?09:08
loolPerhaps splitting the mythtv plugin in its own package?09:08
huatsmorning everyone !09:17
seb128lool: not really, moving the depends to a recommends?09:22
seb128lut huats09:22
huatshey seb12809:22
loolseb128: the shlib:deps ones?!09:23
seb128lool: well, that's ugly but pidgin does it for example09:24
loolNo that's fine, but not trivial so I was double checking I understood you correctly09:25
seb128well, I thing that would be better than splitting the package09:28
pittiseb128: just got my father's iPod, on my desk now :)10:07
pittiso I can play around with it a bit10:07
seb128cool10:08
crevettepitti, whatt !! you didn't one, such a shame10:08
crevette:)10:08
crevette+had10:08
pittino, I don't really need one10:08
seb128crevette: do you have a new generation one?10:08
crevetteno10:08
pittiseb128: last time you wanted me to test something, right?10:08
crevettean old one10:08
crevetteI think it is a 4G10:08
seb128pitti: yes, let me ask the guy10:09
crevetteI don't use it that much, it is always in my car, since my gd bought a "poste radio" where I can plug it10:09
crevetteso I have 20 g of music everyday10:09
seb128pitti: can you plug it and verify than iPod_Control/Device/SysInfoExtended on the ipod is touched?10:11
seb128pitti: and try to dnd a mp3 on it and see if you can play it on the ipod then10:11
pittioooh10:11
pittiRB finally converts .ogg to .mp3 on the fly10:12
pitti\o/10:12
pitti-rwx------ 1 martin root 12210 2008-03-28 11:10 SysInfoExtended10:12
pittiseb128: WDYM with 'touched'?10:12
pittiI just DnD'ed an .ogg album to it, works fine10:13
pittiand I can play from the iPod, etc.10:13
dholbachNICE10:16
seb128pitti: touched = recently changed10:16
dholbachis that a "new" ipod?10:16
pittiseb128: right, it does10:17
seb128pitti: it's supposed to update the md5 or something, just to know if that was done or not10:17
pittidholbach: yes, iPod nano 4 GB, from last December (xmas present)10:17
pittiwhen I tried it the last time, I was missing that daemon thing for the checksum, and it didn't convert .oggs10:17
dholbachpitti: does it need any voodoo or does it just work? :)10:17
pittidholbach: Just Works (TM)10:17
dholbachROCK10:17
pittiin fact I got it because it crashed10:18
pittiso the voodoo was to find the reset sequence :)10:18
dholbachso once wireless works on Mimi's laptop, she can switch to Ubuntu :)10:18
pittiseb128: I can play music from the iPod directly, too, and it updated the DB correctly10:30
pittionly bug is that RB crashes after detachign the iPod10:30
seb128pitti: crash on eject? what version of rhythmbox do you have?10:44
pitti0.11.5-0ubuntu110:44
seb128hum, k10:45
seb128can you send it using apport?10:45
seb128pitti: other topic, any reason we didn't get language pack updates for 11 days? it makes harder to keep track of what still needs to be fixed translation wise for hardy10:45
pittihm, apparently we didn't get an update on Wednesday, weird10:46
pittiseb128: I reqested a full export for sunday10:46
seb128ok, thanks10:46
pittiI'll upload fresh -base on Monday10:46
seb128I just though we were supposed to have weekly automatic updates10:46
seb128and we didn't get one this week10:46
tuntunhardy says the nvidia driver is installed but not in use. how do i use them?11:54
tuntunhardy says the nvidia driver is installed but not in use. how do i use them?11:55
tuntunI install hardy using wubi, did 100MB of udpates, restarted and then got "initramfs" prompt. whats gone wrong?12:43
pedro_tuntun: better to ask in #ubuntu12:47
kwwiihrm, why in the world does human icon theme have a dir called Parsix in the debian dir with svg's and improperly named png's?12:57
huatscody-somerville: congrats13:30
cody-somervilleThanks huats :)13:30
huatsseb128: I saw you asking for some informations in bug 20626714:14
ubotuLaunchpad bug 206267 in gvfs "gvfs doesn't manage sftp and ftp backends properly" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20626714:14
huatsI have added some since I am facing the same as they do (well as far as I understand the first reported)14:15
SauroHi can anyone help me stop the screen turning off ? I have tried the obvious settings and a number of fixes from forums but nothing is working, its driving me nuts.14:15
seb128huats: to be honest hundred of lines of comments don't make me want to read the bug14:16
seb128huats: users should learn to have clear and short descriptions14:16
seb128Sauro: try #ubuntu, this is not a support channel14:16
huatsthat is why I have added "as far  I understand the first reported" bug...14:16
Saurooh sorry14:16
Saurocheers14:16
seb128Sauro: you might want to check your bios settings, could be the hardware doing that and not ubuntu14:16
huatsseb128: i have added a comment, (the last one) which is "shorter"14:17
huats:)14:17
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seb128huats: not really useful though14:17
huatsat least i explain how I can reproduce it...14:18
seb128right, but everybody would have it if that was so easy14:18
huatsyeah...14:18
seb128anyway I'm going to upload a new gvfs version really soon which should fix similar issues, worth trying when it'll be available14:18
huatsI was wondering if I was the onlyone or not14:18
huatsok14:18
huatsgreat !14:18
huatsand at least on my computer is really easy to reproduce it : it happens alll the time (quite annyoing sicne I use sftp daily at work...)14:21
huatslooking for next upload thus14:21
huatsthanks seb12814:21
seb128you are welcome14:22
lapohi14:26
seb128hey lapo14:27
seb128lapo: you talked to me about iso icons some time ago, or was that somebody else?14:27
laposeb128: oh yes it was me14:28
laposeb128: do you need that?14:28
seb128lapo: where was the hack?14:28
laposeb128: I think you made a patch for g-i-t to add the iso image icon IIRC14:29
seb128lapo: ok, you were speaking about this one, I restored it some days ago14:29
laposeb128: my point was that the icon I did for you time ago is now outdated14:30
seb128oh14:30
seb128lapo: you are welcome to do an updated icon then ;-)14:31
seb128lapo: seems that GNOME still doesn't have an iso icon14:31
laposeb128: do you happen to have the "sources" of the current one?14:31
seb128or the naming nautilus is using is incorrect14:31
laposeb128: gnome icon theme is going to cover the naming specs only, that's the plan14:31
seb128lapo: there is a scalable svg in the patch but I've no idea if that's what you call source14:32
laposeb128: the naming nautilus is using is incorret even :-)14:32
seb128lapo: well, is there an iso icon under an another name in the spec or in gnome-icon-theme right now?14:33
laposeb128: I probably sent you a package with svg or xcfs for smaller sizes as well, but if you can't find it it's not a problem14:33
seb128lapo: I don't think so, I've several png and one svg and that's about it14:34
laposeb128: for mime icons you can just call them as the mime with - istead of other separators iirc, and it should just work14:34
lapouhm, not a problem tho I can quickly redo them14:34
seb128ok, cool14:35
seb128if you do that let me know I'll update the package14:35
seb128not sure to understand your naming comment14:35
seb128is there an icon for iso upstream which could use under a different naming?14:35
seb128or that's something not in the spec so we still need the add one?14:35
laposeb128: nope no upstream icon14:35
seb128s/the/to14:35
seb128ok, what I though14:35
laposeb128: you still need to add that one, we're planning -extra packages with more mimes but nobody started anything atm14:36
seb128ok, thanks14:36
laponp14:36
pochuseb128: bug 20831015:44
ubotuLaunchpad bug 208310 in libarchive "Promote libarchive to main" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20831015:44
pochuseb128: I haven't found an upstream bug tracker, and I haven't done a code review, as I'm not experienced for that. Everything else should be fine15:44
seb128pochu: thanks15:44
seb128pochu: code review should be for the reviewer, ie pitti or doko usually15:45
pochuoh, good then :)15:45
pochuI can ask Company if he knows whether there's an upstream bug tracker15:46
pochuor if there's only bug mail15:46
seb128pochu: good idea, he's on contact with upstream I think15:46
pochuyeah, http://mail.gnome.org/archives/nautilus-list/2008-March/msg00034.html was sent to upstream15:46
seb128ok, I'm away for half an hour or so, be back later15:47
pittihm, what's the recommended TV player for Gnome?16:14
pittiubutu wiki says to use kaffeine for watching DVB16:14
pittibut well, I don't want to install the entire KDE for that16:14
pittioh, totem can do it16:18
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jcastropitti: In the past I've used tvtime with good success.16:47
pittijcastro: totem works for me for now, but I'll try that out16:48
pittiI have to actually work a bit today still :-P16:48
jcastroyeah the dvb support is new-ish in totem, haven't had a chance to try it myself16:48
pittijcastro: the lack of scanning is bad, but once you have a channel list, it works well16:50
tedgjcastro: Are you using an ATSC card?16:53
jcastrotedg: the machine with my tvtuner is currently out of commission, so nothing right now16:54
tedgjcastro: Were you using an ATSC card? ;)16:54
jcastroI have no idea, it was a pvr250 based card. (I don't know what ATSC is)16:55
tedgOver-the-air digital in the US.  Basically DVB-T for the US.16:56
tedgI think that on is analog though.16:56
tedg"that one"16:56
jcastroYeah it definately didn't do that16:59
jcastrotedg: with regard to your post on gnome-ddl, what's the plan for working with gnome on that?17:19
jcastrotedg: (the logout dialog)17:19
tedgjcastro: I think we're going to have to review that at UDS.17:20
seb128jcastro: any news about the libwnck changes to move the tooltip to the context menu?17:20
jcastrok, vuntz will be there so we should revisit that as a session.17:20
seb128tedg: ^17:20
tedgjcastro: We drafted the exit-strategy blueprint at UDS Boston, and it got pushed out.17:20
jcastroseb128: I know that it was coming I wasn't involved in the discussion.17:20
seb128that could be what is causing bug #20769317:20
ubotuLaunchpad bug 207693 in gtk+2.0 "gnome-panel crashed with SIGSEGV" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20769317:20
tedgseb128: Working on it.  I'm fighting libbonoboui right now...17:21
seb128jcastro: sorry that was for ted rather17:21
seb128tedg: "pushed out" mean cancelled?17:21
jcastrotedg: yeah I was there. I am still convinced that since no one uses the stock gnome one that we should just submit a good one upstream17:22
vuntzjcastro: oh, you're here. I spammed you with two mails :-)17:22
tedgI don't think it will be cancelled, but I think it will probably over a couple of releases.17:22
tedgThere are some big things to work out.17:22
tedgFortunately vuntz working on gnome-session will help a ton.17:22
vuntzjcastro: fedora does use the stock gnome one17:23
vuntziirc17:23
tedgBut the other big thing is X stuff in getting the OpenGL working on multiple desktops.17:23
tedgAtleast as it is detailed in there, we wouldnt' have a logout dialog at all.17:23
jcastrovuntz: imo the suse one is slick, push that upstream. ;)17:24
vuntzjcastro: yeah, I might do that17:24
ftapochu, about bug 203413, i have a possible window for a xulrunner-1.9 regression.18:28
ubotuLaunchpad bug 203413 in liferea "Liferea creates many corrupt copies of places.sqlite in its Mozilla profile folder" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20341318:29
pochufta: regression from previous 1.9 releases or from 1.8?18:29
ftaprevious 1.918:29
pochugreat18:29
ftadid you try with b3?18:29
ftai bet it works fine18:30
pochuI haven't yet, have you?18:30
ftano but using my own xul builds, it seems it started for me between 1.9~b4~cvs20080224t1029 and 1.9~b4~cvs20080227t113918:31
ftatoo bad they are no longer in my ppa18:32
pochulocally? :)18:32
ftanope18:33
pochuok, I'm gonna downgrade to beta3 and check it18:34
ftadoes it happen doing something special in liferea ?18:35
pochufta: no idea yet18:36
ftaoh, i still have some debs in my chroot18:36
seb128_re18:36
fta-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 7631276 2008-02-27 23:20 /var/cache/apt/archives/xulrunner-1.9_1.9~b4~cvs20080227t1139+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~fta1_i386.deb18:36
fta-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 7630384 2008-03-03 03:20 /var/cache/apt/archives/xulrunner-1.9_1.9~b4~cvs20080302t0424+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~fta2_i386.deb18:36
pochufta: the update to b3 was on 2008-02-13 and the bug was opened on 2008-03-18 so it could well be18:36
pochuhi seb128_18:37
pochuseb128_: nice libarchive was approved :)18:37
seb128_yeah18:37
seb128_I'll sync gvfs on debian18:37
ftapochu, ok, i still have xul 20080218t0050 and 20080227t1139, if you find how to trigger that bug, i can try those18:38
pochufta: wow, this was *easy*18:40
pochuI moved out ~/.liferea_1.4, and started liferea with a clean profile. 5 seconds later:18:40
pochuemilio@saturno:~/.liferea_1.4/mozilla/liferea$ ls *corrupt | wc -l18:40
pochu518:40
pochuI did nothing other than starting liferea ;)18:40
ftaok, i'll try that after lunch18:41
pochufta: thank you, let me know18:41
crevetteseb128_: it seems nautilus 2.22.1 out too since noon20:17
crevetteand eel20:17
crevette:)20:17
crevetteeven #commits is broken20:17
crevetteI just saw the commits right now20:17
crevette:)20:17
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