[01:19] <calc> bug 208062
[01:19] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 208062 in shared-mime-info "Add support for MS Word 2007 Formats - Needed for OOo" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/208062
[01:19] <calc> ^ fix it please ;-)
[02:01] <marnanel> calc: who are you talking to?  I'm confused
[02:04] <calc> the channel :)
[02:04] <calc> anyone who feels like working on it :)
[02:40] <AlgorithmicContr> Is the Music Applet installed by default in Ubuntu?
[04:06] <jarosser06_> howdy yall
[05:56] <dholbach> good morning
[08:37] <seb128> hello there
[08:37] <seb128> hey dholbach
[08:38] <dholbach> hiya seb128
[08:39] <seb128> lool: hey, I guess you are really busy as everybody else, but do you chance you will look to the sponsoring request waiting for you today? I did gnome-bluetooth yesterday, I'll also get this bluez-gnome change to fix nautilus-sendto if you are too busy, it's getting late and I don't want that to be broken in hardy if not required
[08:40] <dholbach> seb128: nautilus-sendto needs FFE?
[08:40] <seb128> dholbach: depends of the changes, I didn't look at it yet, the update is on my list for today
[08:41] <dholbach> ok... ember did it already - I can subscribe you to the bug (new upstream version) - it looks OK to me
[08:41] <seb128> bah
[08:41] <seb128> what is the bug number?
[08:41] <dholbach> bug 208108
[08:41] <seb128> danke
[08:41] <dholbach> de rien
[08:43] <crevette> salut seb128
[08:43] <crevette> salut daniel
[08:43] <seb128> lut crevette
[08:43] <dholbach> hi crevette
[08:43] <seb128> crevette: I've sponsored your gnome-bluetooth update, thanks
[08:44] <crevette> seb128, yeah I saw that  thanks a lot
[08:44] <seb128> crevette: you can mark it uploaded on revu or whatever they change there, I've no account to comment
[08:48] <soren> a/win 7
[08:48] <soren> gah
[08:58] <lool> seb128: Yes, I know about them; I'd like to do them, but I have more urgent AR to process today
[08:58] <seb128> lool: ok, I'll do it today, the change is not trivial and the sooner the better so it can get testing
[08:59] <seb128> lool: I'll upload on the basis that redhat is using it and some users tried to apply the patch with success
[08:59] <lool> Ok, thanks
[08:59] <seb128> lool: you are welcome
[09:02] <lool> seb128: I wonder why there ain't a totem-plugins-extra -> gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad dep
[09:02] <lool> seb128: I was hoping to close #191952 with your totem change
[09:03] <lool> But there's still a dep in the GStreamer plugins
[09:03] <seb128> bug #191952
[09:04] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 191952 in gst-plugins-bad0.10 "Remove mysql dependency for LPIA" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191952
[09:05] <seb128> lool: no special reason, I just didn't know that was to change, feel free to do a quick fix and upload if you want, otherwise something to change in the next upload
[09:08] <lool> seb128: And concerning #191952, did you have an idea on how to address it?
[09:08] <lool> Perhaps splitting the mythtv plugin in its own package?
[09:17] <huats> morning everyone !
[09:22] <seb128> lool: not really, moving the depends to a recommends?
[09:22] <seb128> lut huats
[09:22] <huats> hey seb128
[09:23] <lool> seb128: the shlib:deps ones?!
[09:24] <seb128> lool: well, that's ugly but pidgin does it for example
[09:25] <lool> No that's fine, but not trivial so I was double checking I understood you correctly
[09:28] <seb128> well, I thing that would be better than splitting the package
[10:07] <pitti> seb128: just got my father's iPod, on my desk now :)
[10:07] <pitti> so I can play around with it a bit
[10:08] <seb128> cool
[10:08] <crevette> pitti, whatt !! you didn't one, such a shame
[10:08] <crevette> :)
[10:08] <crevette> +had
[10:08] <pitti> no, I don't really need one
[10:08] <seb128> crevette: do you have a new generation one?
[10:08] <crevette> no
[10:08] <pitti> seb128: last time you wanted me to test something, right?
[10:08] <crevette> an old one
[10:08] <crevette> I think it is a 4G
[10:09] <seb128> pitti: yes, let me ask the guy
[10:09] <crevette> I don't use it that much, it is always in my car, since my gd bought a "poste radio" where I can plug it
[10:09] <crevette> so I have 20 g of music everyday
[10:11] <seb128> pitti: can you plug it and verify than iPod_Control/Device/SysInfoExtended on the ipod is touched?
[10:11] <seb128> pitti: and try to dnd a mp3 on it and see if you can play it on the ipod then
[10:11] <pitti> oooh
[10:12] <pitti> RB finally converts .ogg to .mp3 on the fly
[10:12] <pitti> \o/
[10:12] <pitti> -rwx------ 1 martin root 12210 2008-03-28 11:10 SysInfoExtended
[10:12] <pitti> seb128: WDYM with 'touched'?
[10:13] <pitti> I just DnD'ed an .ogg album to it, works fine
[10:13] <pitti> and I can play from the iPod, etc.
[10:16] <dholbach> NICE
[10:16] <seb128> pitti: touched = recently changed
[10:16] <dholbach> is that a "new" ipod?
[10:17] <pitti> seb128: right, it does
[10:17] <seb128> pitti: it's supposed to update the md5 or something, just to know if that was done or not
[10:17] <pitti> dholbach: yes, iPod nano 4 GB, from last December (xmas present)
[10:17] <pitti> when I tried it the last time, I was missing that daemon thing for the checksum, and it didn't convert .oggs
[10:17] <dholbach> pitti: does it need any voodoo or does it just work? :)
[10:17] <pitti> dholbach: Just Works (TM)
[10:17] <dholbach> ROCK
[10:18] <pitti> in fact I got it because it crashed
[10:18] <pitti> so the voodoo was to find the reset sequence :)
[10:18] <dholbach> so once wireless works on Mimi's laptop, she can switch to Ubuntu :)
[10:30] <pitti> seb128: I can play music from the iPod directly, too, and it updated the DB correctly
[10:30] <pitti> only bug is that RB crashes after detachign the iPod
[10:44] <seb128> pitti: crash on eject? what version of rhythmbox do you have?
[10:44] <pitti> 0.11.5-0ubuntu1
[10:45] <seb128> hum, k
[10:45] <seb128> can you send it using apport?
[10:45] <seb128> pitti: other topic, any reason we didn't get language pack updates for 11 days? it makes harder to keep track of what still needs to be fixed translation wise for hardy
[10:46] <pitti> hm, apparently we didn't get an update on Wednesday, weird
[10:46] <pitti> seb128: I reqested a full export for sunday
[10:46] <seb128> ok, thanks
[10:46] <pitti> I'll upload fresh -base on Monday
[10:46] <seb128> I just though we were supposed to have weekly automatic updates
[10:46] <seb128> and we didn't get one this week
[11:54] <tuntun> hardy says the nvidia driver is installed but not in use. how do i use them?
[11:55] <tuntun> hardy says the nvidia driver is installed but not in use. how do i use them?
[12:43] <tuntun> I install hardy using wubi, did 100MB of udpates, restarted and then got "initramfs" prompt. whats gone wrong?
[12:47] <pedro_> tuntun: better to ask in #ubuntu
[12:57] <kwwii> hrm, why in the world does human icon theme have a dir called Parsix in the debian dir with svg's and improperly named png's?
[13:30] <huats> cody-somerville: congrats
[13:30] <cody-somerville> Thanks huats :)
[14:14] <huats> seb128: I saw you asking for some informations in bug 206267
[14:14] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 206267 in gvfs "gvfs doesn't manage sftp and ftp backends properly" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/206267
[14:15] <huats> I have added some since I am facing the same as they do (well as far as I understand the first reported)
[14:15] <Sauro> Hi can anyone help me stop the screen turning off ? I have tried the obvious settings and a number of fixes from forums but nothing is working, its driving me nuts.
[14:16] <seb128> huats: to be honest hundred of lines of comments don't make me want to read the bug
[14:16] <seb128> huats: users should learn to have clear and short descriptions
[14:16] <seb128> Sauro: try #ubuntu, this is not a support channel
[14:16] <huats> that is why I have added "as far  I understand the first reported" bug...
[14:16] <Sauro> oh sorry
[14:16] <Sauro> cheers
[14:16] <seb128> Sauro: you might want to check your bios settings, could be the hardware doing that and not ubuntu
[14:17] <huats> seb128: i have added a comment, (the last one) which is "shorter"
[14:17] <huats> :)
[14:17] <seb128> huats: not really useful though
[14:18] <huats> at least i explain how I can reproduce it...
[14:18] <seb128> right, but everybody would have it if that was so easy
[14:18] <huats> yeah...
[14:18] <seb128> anyway I'm going to upload a new gvfs version really soon which should fix similar issues, worth trying when it'll be available
[14:18] <huats> I was wondering if I was the onlyone or not
[14:18] <huats> ok
[14:18] <huats> great !
[14:21] <huats> and at least on my computer is really easy to reproduce it : it happens alll the time (quite annyoing sicne I use sftp daily at work...)
[14:21] <huats> looking for next upload thus
[14:21] <huats> thanks seb128
[14:22] <seb128> you are welcome
[14:26] <lapo> hi
[14:27] <seb128> hey lapo
[14:27] <seb128> lapo: you talked to me about iso icons some time ago, or was that somebody else?
[14:28] <lapo> seb128: oh yes it was me
[14:28] <lapo> seb128: do you need that?
[14:28] <seb128> lapo: where was the hack?
[14:29] <lapo> seb128: I think you made a patch for g-i-t to add the iso image icon IIRC
[14:29] <seb128> lapo: ok, you were speaking about this one, I restored it some days ago
[14:30] <lapo> seb128: my point was that the icon I did for you time ago is now outdated
[14:30] <seb128> oh
[14:31] <seb128> lapo: you are welcome to do an updated icon then ;-)
[14:31] <seb128> lapo: seems that GNOME still doesn't have an iso icon
[14:31] <lapo> seb128: do you happen to have the "sources" of the current one?
[14:31] <seb128> or the naming nautilus is using is incorrect
[14:31] <lapo> seb128: gnome icon theme is going to cover the naming specs only, that's the plan
[14:32] <seb128> lapo: there is a scalable svg in the patch but I've no idea if that's what you call source
[14:32] <lapo> seb128: the naming nautilus is using is incorret even :-)
[14:33] <seb128> lapo: well, is there an iso icon under an another name in the spec or in gnome-icon-theme right now?
[14:33] <lapo> seb128: I probably sent you a package with svg or xcfs for smaller sizes as well, but if you can't find it it's not a problem
[14:34] <seb128> lapo: I don't think so, I've several png and one svg and that's about it
[14:34] <lapo> seb128: for mime icons you can just call them as the mime with - istead of other separators iirc, and it should just work
[14:34] <lapo> uhm, not a problem tho I can quickly redo them
[14:35] <seb128> ok, cool
[14:35] <seb128> if you do that let me know I'll update the package
[14:35] <seb128> not sure to understand your naming comment
[14:35] <seb128> is there an icon for iso upstream which could use under a different naming?
[14:35] <seb128> or that's something not in the spec so we still need the add one?
[14:35] <lapo> seb128: nope no upstream icon
[14:35] <seb128> s/the/to
[14:35] <seb128> ok, what I though
[14:36] <lapo> seb128: you still need to add that one, we're planning -extra packages with more mimes but nobody started anything atm
[14:36] <seb128> ok, thanks
[14:36] <lapo> np
[15:44] <pochu> seb128: bug 208310
[15:44] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 208310 in libarchive "Promote libarchive to main" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/208310
[15:44] <pochu> seb128: I haven't found an upstream bug tracker, and I haven't done a code review, as I'm not experienced for that. Everything else should be fine
[15:44] <seb128> pochu: thanks
[15:45] <seb128> pochu: code review should be for the reviewer, ie pitti or doko usually
[15:45] <pochu> oh, good then :)
[15:46] <pochu> I can ask Company if he knows whether there's an upstream bug tracker
[15:46] <pochu> or if there's only bug mail
[15:46] <seb128> pochu: good idea, he's on contact with upstream I think
[15:46] <pochu> yeah, http://mail.gnome.org/archives/nautilus-list/2008-March/msg00034.html was sent to upstream
[15:47] <seb128> ok, I'm away for half an hour or so, be back later
[16:14] <pitti> hm, what's the recommended TV player for Gnome?
[16:14] <pitti> ubutu wiki says to use kaffeine for watching DVB
[16:14] <pitti> but well, I don't want to install the entire KDE for that
[16:18] <pitti> oh, totem can do it
[16:47] <jcastro> pitti: In the past I've used tvtime with good success.
[16:48] <pitti> jcastro: totem works for me for now, but I'll try that out
[16:48] <pitti> I have to actually work a bit today still :-P
[16:48] <jcastro> yeah the dvb support is new-ish in totem, haven't had a chance to try it myself
[16:50] <pitti> jcastro: the lack of scanning is bad, but once you have a channel list, it works well
[16:53] <tedg> jcastro: Are you using an ATSC card?
[16:54] <jcastro> tedg: the machine with my tvtuner is currently out of commission, so nothing right now
[16:54] <tedg> jcastro: Were you using an ATSC card? ;)
[16:55] <jcastro> I have no idea, it was a pvr250 based card. (I don't know what ATSC is)
[16:56] <tedg> Over-the-air digital in the US.  Basically DVB-T for the US.
[16:56] <tedg> I think that on is analog though.
[16:56] <tedg> "that one"
[16:59] <jcastro> Yeah it definately didn't do that
[17:19] <jcastro> tedg: with regard to your post on gnome-ddl, what's the plan for working with gnome on that?
[17:19] <jcastro> tedg: (the logout dialog)
[17:20] <tedg> jcastro: I think we're going to have to review that at UDS.
[17:20] <seb128> jcastro: any news about the libwnck changes to move the tooltip to the context menu?
[17:20] <jcastro> k, vuntz will be there so we should revisit that as a session.
[17:20] <seb128> tedg: ^
[17:20] <tedg> jcastro: We drafted the exit-strategy blueprint at UDS Boston, and it got pushed out.
[17:20] <jcastro> seb128: I know that it was coming I wasn't involved in the discussion.
[17:20] <seb128> that could be what is causing bug #207693
[17:20] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 207693 in gtk+2.0 "gnome-panel crashed with SIGSEGV" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/207693
[17:21] <tedg> seb128: Working on it.  I'm fighting libbonoboui right now...
[17:21] <seb128> jcastro: sorry that was for ted rather
[17:21] <seb128> tedg: "pushed out" mean cancelled?
[17:22] <jcastro> tedg: yeah I was there. I am still convinced that since no one uses the stock gnome one that we should just submit a good one upstream
[17:22] <vuntz> jcastro: oh, you're here. I spammed you with two mails :-)
[17:22] <tedg> I don't think it will be cancelled, but I think it will probably over a couple of releases.
[17:22] <tedg> There are some big things to work out.
[17:22] <tedg> Fortunately vuntz working on gnome-session will help a ton.
[17:23] <vuntz> jcastro: fedora does use the stock gnome one
[17:23] <vuntz> iirc
[17:23] <tedg> But the other big thing is X stuff in getting the OpenGL working on multiple desktops.
[17:23] <tedg> Atleast as it is detailed in there, we wouldnt' have a logout dialog at all.
[17:24] <jcastro> vuntz: imo the suse one is slick, push that upstream. ;)
[17:24] <vuntz> jcastro: yeah, I might do that
[18:28] <fta> pochu, about bug 203413, i have a possible window for a xulrunner-1.9 regression.
[18:29] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 203413 in liferea "Liferea creates many corrupt copies of places.sqlite in its Mozilla profile folder" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/203413
[18:29] <pochu> fta: regression from previous 1.9 releases or from 1.8?
[18:29] <fta> previous 1.9
[18:29] <pochu> great
[18:29] <fta> did you try with b3?
[18:30] <fta> i bet it works fine
[18:30] <pochu> I haven't yet, have you?
[18:31] <fta> no but using my own xul builds, it seems it started for me between 1.9~b4~cvs20080224t1029 and 1.9~b4~cvs20080227t1139
[18:32] <fta> too bad they are no longer in my ppa
[18:32] <pochu> locally? :)
[18:33] <fta> nope
[18:34] <pochu> ok, I'm gonna downgrade to beta3 and check it
[18:35] <fta> does it happen doing something special in liferea ?
[18:36] <pochu> fta: no idea yet
[18:36] <fta> oh, i still have some debs in my chroot
[18:36] <seb128_> re
[18:36] <fta> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 7631276 2008-02-27 23:20 /var/cache/apt/archives/xulrunner-1.9_1.9~b4~cvs20080227t1139+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~fta1_i386.deb
[18:36] <fta> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 7630384 2008-03-03 03:20 /var/cache/apt/archives/xulrunner-1.9_1.9~b4~cvs20080302t0424+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~fta2_i386.deb
[18:36] <pochu> fta: the update to b3 was on 2008-02-13 and the bug was opened on 2008-03-18 so it could well be
[18:37] <pochu> hi seb128_
[18:37] <pochu> seb128_: nice libarchive was approved :)
[18:37] <seb128_> yeah
[18:37] <seb128_> I'll sync gvfs on debian
[18:38] <fta> pochu, ok, i still have xul 20080218t0050 and 20080227t1139, if you find how to trigger that bug, i can try those
[18:40] <pochu> fta: wow, this was *easy*
[18:40] <pochu> I moved out ~/.liferea_1.4, and started liferea with a clean profile. 5 seconds later:
[18:40] <pochu> emilio@saturno:~/.liferea_1.4/mozilla/liferea$ ls *corrupt | wc -l
[18:40] <pochu> 5
[18:40] <pochu> I did nothing other than starting liferea ;)
[18:41] <fta> ok, i'll try that after lunch
[18:41] <pochu> fta: thank you, let me know
[20:17] <crevette> seb128_: it seems nautilus 2.22.1 out too since noon
[20:17] <crevette> and eel
[20:17] <crevette> :)
[20:17] <crevette> even #commits is broken
[20:17] <crevette> I just saw the commits right now
[20:17] <crevette> :)