=== emgent`out is now known as emgent [00:04] hello === mthaddon changed the topic of #ubuntu-devel to: Archive: Feature Freeze, DocumentationStringFreeze | Ubuntu 8.04 LTS Beta released | Development of Ubuntu (not support, not application development on Ubuntu) | #ubuntu for support and general discussion for dapper/edgy/feisty/gutsy, #ubuntu+1 for hardy | #ubuntu-motu for getting involved in development | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopme [01:44] mthaddon: You looked to have chopped off the topic [01:45] StevenK, oops - had removed the launchpad outage message I'd added [01:46] mthaddon: Yup, I think the outage message caused the topic to be cut off in the first place. === mthaddon changed the topic of #ubuntu-devel to: Archive: Feature Freeze, DocumentationStringFreeze | Ubuntu 8.04 LTS Beta released | Development of Ubuntu (not support, not application development on Ubuntu) | #ubuntu for support and general discussion for dapper/edgy/feisty/gutsy, #ubuntu+1 for hardy | #ubuntu-motu for getting involved in development | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment | See #ubuntu-bugs for http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs [01:46] Yay [01:46] :) [01:46] heya gang :) [01:46] xchatlogs are a wonderful thing... [01:47] irssilogs too :P [02:14] I'm assuming that when one tries to upload the first package to a recently activated PPA and it FTBFS due to index files in the PPA not being found is a known bug? [02:15] Yup. [02:17] TheMuso: Yeah, and somebody decided it wasn't important enough, so they untargetted it... [02:17] TheMuso: not deemed important though. just retry the build. [02:17] TheMuso: Retry the build in 5 minutes. [02:18] Fujitsu: How? Can I do that from the interface now? [02:18] Yeah. On the FTBFS page there's a "retry build" button. [02:18] Thanks./ [02:56] Hey all, I'm looking to do some open office development, has anyone setup an OO dev environment on Ubuntu here? [02:58] <_MMA_> Hydrant: calc is who you wanna talk to. [02:58] calc: do you have experience with OO dev environment on Ubuntu ? [03:11] why KDE is so slow and consumes too much ram? [03:11] gnome runs fine [03:12] calugor: what's your definition of slow ? [03:12] slangasek: Did you get the word from Riddell that it's OK to nuke kdepim-kde4? [03:12] apps take a few seconds to start [03:13] calugor: turn off some eye-candy [03:13] calugor: what are specs on the machine ? [03:13] :/ [03:13] <_MMA_> Why GNOME is so slow and consumes too much ram? Fluxbox runs fine. :P [03:13] calugor: there might be some services running that aren't needed [03:14] p4 512mb ram [03:14] _MMA_, fluxbox with gnome apps :D [03:15] calugor: so you're running a pure KDE environment, are you running the same apps in both GNOME / KDE ? [03:17] used kde apps while running KDE but perhaps there was someother stuff running in the backgroud [03:18] calugor: KDE can be very fast if configured well in my experience [03:18] calugor: it may be other things are going on that are hurting performance too [03:19] http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde [03:19] I will try this [03:22] calugor: I don't know that will do anything for you [03:22] calugor: is the performance really so bad? [03:23] after it started using swap , yes [03:23] calugor: ah using swap eh [03:23] calugor: with 512MB RAM it shouldn't [03:24] calugor: are you running something fancy or just plain old KDE ? [03:24] calugor: sorry to ask, what is your user level experience? I don't want to water down answers or go too advanced either, if you give me an idea I can help more [03:25] average [03:25] calugor: did you check what else might be using memory? [03:25] calugor: I guess you can use ksysguard to check that [03:25] or KDE crash guard, whatever it's called [03:27] xorg was 300mb [03:27] calugor: something's up [03:27] calugor: what video card? Have you done something fancy since install? [03:27] no [03:27] calugor: oh, btw, AFAIK video memory is in that stat, I forgot [03:28] calugor: you must have a 256MB video card or something ? [03:28] yes, I will try again [03:28] calugor: no, if I'm right it's not a problem [03:28] calugor: ok... so it's going to swap... how big is your swap drive? [03:29] 1.5gb [03:29] calugor: how do you know it's going into swap, and how much swap is being used? [03:30] I need to test again and pay attention to the ksysguard or whatever it is called [03:30] thanks [03:52] Hydrant: back [03:52] Hydrant: what was your question? [03:56] calc: hey [03:57] calc: I'm trying to do some OO development on Ubuntu, and was curious if anyone had that setup [03:57] calc: I mean, if I wanted to build OO with debugging support it looks like I have to compile myself === ember_ is now known as ember [04:03] Hydrant: debug builds for all packages are already available [04:04] * calc looks up url [04:04] calc: thx [04:04] * calc thinks the url should be in the default sources.list [04:04] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash [04:04] what's the package name ? [04:05] depends on which package [04:05] i think they append -dbg to end of each iirc [04:05] oh maybe -dbgsym [04:05] read the page :) [04:05] k, I'm used to debian [04:06] * calc thinks debian should switch to doing it this way :) [04:06] much easier you don't have to care about it in your packaging afaict [04:06] tbh i don't even know how it does it [04:08] nice, installing now [04:08] do you know by any chance why unoidl isn't in Ubuntu [04:09] * lamont decides to reinstall the gutsy version of kobodeluxe... unless I can figure out how to get the gutsy graphics in the hardy version [04:10] Hydrant: no, hmm [04:10] Hydrant: i wouldn't be surprised if most uno stuff doesn't work in general though, since we have no stable free java yet [04:10] calc: so Ubuntu might not be a good dev platform ? [04:11] * calc keeps his opinion of java to himself [04:11] haha... my opinion of Java is likely much worse than yours [04:11] Hydrant: feel free to file bug about missing unoidl, not sure why its not there [04:12] calc: hrrm... if only compiling OO didn't take all night [04:12] i don't mind the language itself that much just the surrounding issues [04:12] Hydrant: hehe [04:12] calc: JVM is the devil [04:12] i'm booting up my other ubuntu vm to look at upstream ooo [04:12] calc: k, thx... [04:13] calc: I've gotta get a project done tonight, kinda in trouble if I can't get OO working right [04:13] i thought i was going to get 2.4 uploaded today, heh yea right [04:13] Hydrant: what do you need to get working on OO? [04:13] calc: if it's in heron I might be able to put it in [04:13] calc: I've been working on adding some spread sheet functions to OO Calc... spent a week or so trying in PyUno, found a major bug with it today that blocks that [04:13] i got to my first bug which i thought was an easy one, fix up mime types, then found out shared-mime-info doesn't even support most Office mime-types :\ [04:14] Hydrant: yuck [04:14] calc: today I've decided to just go back to C++'s loving embrace, but now I'm missing unoidl :-( [04:14] Hydrant: if you want to do it with Ubuntu and it looks like you are having weird bugs your best bet would probably be to use the official sun version, but you will lose gnome integration [04:15] calc: don't care about that [04:15] i don't see unoidl even on upstream version [04:15] where is it normally located? [04:15] calc: this is my dev environment, actual target server to deploy to is running Arch [04:15] calc: no idea, I'll check on another server [04:15] its not in /opt/openoffice.org2.4/program/uno* [04:16] try slocate [04:16] i don't see it anywhere in /opt/openoffice.org2.4 [04:16] slocate unoidl returns nothing [04:16] i think your mythical unoidl is just non-existant (or at least in 2.4) [04:17] http://udk.openoffice.org/common/man/tools.html#unoidl [04:17] methinks the OO docs are in shambles [04:17] calc: so are you the OO maintainer? [04:17] maybe its an internal program that they don't ship [04:17] Hydrant: yea [04:17] because in the official sun debs its not there either [04:17] calc: You have my deepest sympathies :-) [04:17] they have lots of internal tools that i think they don't generally package up [04:17] Hydrant: heh yea :) [04:18] calc: but it ought to be in the SDK [04:18] calc: arrgh [04:19] hi calc :) [04:19] i don't see a sdk deb so it must be part of what they call core or testtool(?) [04:19] emgent: hi [04:19] the debs i am talking about are the sun debs by the way [04:19] calc: where can I get official sun debs? [04:19] eg OOo_2.4.0rc5_20080312_LinuxIntel_install_en-US_deb.tar.gz [04:20] calc: how broken ? [04:20] they changed their website yesterday so i am not sure how to get them now, looking [04:20] http://download.openoffice.org/other.html#en-US [04:20] there it is [04:21] http://openoffice.bouncer.osuosl.org/?product=OpenOffice.org&os=linuxinteldeb&lang=en-US&version=2.4.0 [04:21] its only available for 32bit and doesn't upgrade cleanly so if you go to upgrade you might have to do juggling later [04:21] eg placing packages on hold, etc [04:22] well, I'd remove existing OO altogether [04:22] I've likely broken it anyways [04:22] and you won't have office 2007 support, etc [04:22] since upstream doesn't support it at all yet [04:22] meh, who cares... [04:22] just noting things that upstream lacks ;-) [04:22] thx [04:22] official OOo gets Office 2007 support in 3.0 [04:23] speaking of lacking, I can't get the d/l to work [04:23] lol [04:23] i didn't try downloading it myself [04:23] it was just released today so that might be why [04:23] the gods hate me [04:25] heh that was what i thought when i found all the missing support in shared-mime-info ;-) [04:27] I'm getting the tar, hoping it's not source [04:27] OO hurts my brain [04:27] I spent all day tracking down a bug from 2004, that was "going to be fixed" in 2.0 [04:27] not only that... but the buggy source that never worked is on the wiki as an example of how to get this working [04:27] ARRGH! [04:29] k, I got a deb from a mirror [04:29] my fiancee has been doing a lot of labels, cards, etc. etc. in OOo, and every time I have to redo the templates because they're off by part of an inch. Extremely irritating [04:30] plus OOo seems to have this fixation with A4, and pays no mind that my printer is set to print letter [04:30] my personal favorite was the fact that fonts aren't stored in the OO file... so when we did a server upgrade the fonts changed in some inperceptible manner and broke all docs [04:30] but at least it does the job... [04:31] they were all aligned forms and had to be re-done [04:31] makes me want to implement label printing support in inkscape though. :-) [04:31] but OO is working alright [04:31] yikes [04:31] overall it's alright, it's free, it's open source [04:31] ... an obfuscator would be less confusing [04:31] ... but open source [04:31] there's an extraordinarily annoying bug where it doesn't have a template [04:32] so if you ever pick a business card template, you'll never be able to make blank business cards. You must always have a template [04:32] I've debugged more than my share of OO bugs [04:32] Oh, I have a better favorite [04:32] bryce: file a bug http://www.openoffice.org/issues/query.cgi :-) [04:33] I found if I used the "Attention:" template, it was easy enough to just backspace out the "Attention:" text from each card, and load from that [04:33] bryce: they are generally pretty responsive as long as you describe your problem enough for them to understand you [04:33] calc, really? Hmm [04:33] ... debugging an OO BASIC script... you know how OO BASIC doesn't support threading, says so in the docs... I spent a week debugging a problem that wound up only being possible if it was a threading issue.... I wound up having to write an OS-like event dispatcher with interrupts and everything to make sure the stupid thing wasn't threading... ah well [04:34] * calc is going to check on wordperfect then file mime bugs on it and be done with mime crap for now [04:35] mime issues are a royal pain [04:35] Hydrant: yea have to fix them in both OOo desktop/mime files and in shared-mime-info [04:36] Hydrant: i just filed four high priority bugs to fix them for Office 2007 file types [04:36] i installed xp/office 2007 and saved out every format it supported and tested them and lots weren't supported [04:36] er weren't supported by shared-mime-info [04:37] calc: hrrm [04:37] calc: I'm sure that kinda testing is appreciated [04:37] Hydrant: yea i should have done that testing a few months ago [04:37] I've been impressed with how little thinking I have to do with Ubuntu [04:37] now its going to be hard to get it supported before release :-\ [04:38] of course it probably doesn't work on any other linux either, since its an upstream bug [04:38] I've run Gentoo and Debian for years... for my personal desktop now I prefer Kubuntu only for not having to do so much work just to manage things [04:38] calc: not to say it works in others, more so that you have to build it yourself as you go [04:38] calc: I'm more used to a blank slate and building a lot of things from scratch [04:39] * calc used debian from 1998-2004, slackware/redhat/etc before that [04:40] calc: ooh, hardcore [04:40] calc: I've only been using Linux since 2000 [04:40] thats a pretty long time pre gnome 2.0 anyway ;-) [04:40] calc: mostly as a user [04:41] calc: yup... thats tldp days [04:41] i started using linux in high school, but that was a long time ago (1995) [04:41] calc: I've learned that most Linux "gurus" who have used it for 3 weeks don't know of tldp, so it's a good litmus test nowadays to weed out people [04:43] calc: not that that's important, I just get irritated when I get lectures on Linux from people who use it for 3 days... but now I'm just ranting on [04:43] calc, huh, there's already a ton of bug reports about templates [04:43] tldp? if i know what you are talking about i thought it was just LDP [04:43] calc: true [04:44] calc: I wonder whatever happened to it, back in the day it was the most critical thing ever [04:44] bryce: yea templates were left out but it was other things besides that [04:44] aha, here's the one where you can't do a template - 42873 [04:44] bryce: works file format, xml document format needs subclassing, etc [04:44] at least it probably could help to subclass it [04:45] if i understand how mime works at least [04:45] I got 2.4 on now [04:45] Hydrant: linux got easy to use? ;-) [04:45] ah, and here's one about the offsetting - 62349 [04:45] calc: yeah... I always Linux to succeed, now that it has I kinda miss the old days :-) [04:45] bryce: lp bugs or fdo bugs? [04:46] calc, oo.org bugs (searching that link you sent) [04:46] bryce: oh ok [04:47] so looks like pretty much all the issues I ran into already have bug reports [04:47] oh no, OOo Later means... you are screwed :-\ [04:48] i think it depends on who looks at the bug if it gets marked to be fixed or marked to go to bug hell [04:49] ah well [04:50] probably I can talk one of my minions into implementing it in inkscape for me ;-) [04:50] once i get access to the ubuntu master bug i can start adding things people want to get fixed and we can push that list [04:50] convince upstream to consider those bugs higher priority [04:50] calc: how do I get the SDK on ? [04:50] It only seems to have RPMs [04:51] Hydrant: not sure, i thought everything was in each download [04:52] nope :-( [04:52] how is ubuntu oo-sdk made? [04:52] is it in the regular rpm download? [04:52] Hydrant: just from regular compile [04:52] k, I'll alien and hope for the best [04:56] ScottK2: yes, I did; already nuked, thanks :) [05:56] good morning [05:57] Hey dholbach. [05:57] hiya TheMuso [06:00] who can help me debugging bug 208113? [06:00] Bug 208113 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/208113 is private [06:01] hum [06:01] somehow debuild crashes on me on amd64 (libperl S_regmatch) [06:02] when I try to valgrind it, memcheck crashes in a similar way as bug 150477 [06:02] Bug 150477 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/150477 is private [06:02] I just did a memory test and all seems good :/ [06:05] calc: the OOo rc5 doesn't yet support the 3D effects for impress? [06:06] have you guys ever seen the error msg "Tainted filename: ''." in ppa uploads? [06:09] oh wait I see [06:45] Good morning [06:54] sorry for not being on topic, but: i just tried to install 7.10 on a disk with dm-crypt + lvm encryption without formating my dm-crypt partition. alternate installer. i choose to setup encrypted lvm devices and was asked for a passphrase twice(!) [06:55] hi [06:56] now i cant access the two logical volumes in this dm-crypt partition. i think the installer called luksformat on this dm-crypt partition and destroyed the lvm information [07:04] calc downloading, build will take a a time ... [07:08] doko_: ok [07:10] Good morning [07:17] i've got a little package management question : I have KDE4.0 installed on hardy from the repositories, but I need QT 4.4, and so I'm compiling it all from svn. Now, how do I remove the KDE4 that i installed from the reopsitories? === \sh_away is now known as \sh === Seveaz is now known as Seveas [07:30] I just installed kubuntu 8.04 alt amd64, and it has the same bug that 7.04, and 7.10 had: [07:30] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/86666 [07:31] also why doesn't it install firefox by default? honestly, I doubt that many people waste their time w/ konq [07:32] tomahasamoot: ....because it's a gtk app... [07:33] Hobbsee: that's true, but the answer is to do the proper intagration, as it's the only real web bowser [07:33] tomahasamoot: feel free to help out. [07:33] and plenty of people use konq, only. [07:36] Hobbsee: I'd like to see the break-down... as konq can't even do gmail, it's not a real contender for serious use... so I'm not sure what kind of useage pattern these konq users have? [07:36] gmail got fixed? [07:36] afaik, anyway [07:37] that's what I was told, but it wasn't working when they said it was... I'll try again [07:38] Some people have sane email providers, I'm afraid. For them, Konqueror is an option. === doko_ is now known as doko [07:39] the point is that if it doesn't work for something so basic as gmail... [07:40] * Hobbsee wasn't aware that "basic" meant "littered with ajax and other bits of that nature" [07:42] no... still not working [07:43] basic in the sence that it's one of the most important websites out there [07:44] does gmail render correctly in opera/safari/{other non-mozilla/ie browsers}? [07:44] i can't quite remember [07:44] Hobbsee: I don't know [07:45] * Hobbsee recalls something about user agents, etc. === tkamppeter_ is now known as tkamppeter [07:59] asac: do you need any more info on bug 208141? [07:59] Launchpad bug 208141 in network-manager "acx chipset unhappy with network-manager" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/208141 === cprov-out is now known as cprov [08:07] doko: any chance you could reupload the sun-java5 dapper update with a bug number in the changelog? [08:09] Is said upload going to fix the plethora of CVEs? [08:13] apport removed need-i386-retrace from a bug of mine 20 minutes, but hasn't done anything since. [08:13] *20 minutes ago [08:13] Fujitsu: http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/ReleaseNotes.html doesn't mention CVEs in general :( [08:14] morning all [08:14] Fujitsu: I had to kill it, because the chroot was broken; maybe yuo can retag it yourself? [08:14] pitti: Will do. [08:14] pitti: The latest upload to Hardy fixed a lot. [08:14] doko: nevermind, accepting now; but pleeeease, pretty pretty please add bug # to changelogs in the future [08:16] pitti: `This release contains fixes for one or more security vulnerabilities. For more information, please see Sun Alerts 233321 233322 233323 233324 233325 233326 and 233327.' [08:16] They hide it remarkably well. [08:17] pitti: I'll add the upstream report numbers next time [08:17] doko: most important is the SRU LP bug# [08:22] asac_: do you need any more info on bug 208141? :-) [08:22] Launchpad bug 208141 in network-manager "acx chipset unhappy with network-manager" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/208141 [08:24] huaynac_: hi [08:24] oops [08:24] dholbach: hi :) [08:24] dholbach: never seen this kind of access denied thing [08:25] dholbach: is it a hidden SSID? [08:25] yes [08:25] dholbach: does unhiding help? [08:25] asac_: let me try === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach [08:31] slangasek: i got some negative feedback on the bug i was waiting for answers for [08:32] Hobbsee, ScottK: WDYT about syncing http://packages.qa.debian.org/s/slony1/news/20080223T003124Z.html ? 8.3 is our default version in Hardy, so it would be good to have a matching slony [08:34] asac: I don't get the crazy warnings any more, but it does not connect either - updated bug 208141 [08:34] Launchpad bug 208141 in network-manager "[acx] cannot connect to hidden SSID" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/208141 [08:34] Hobbsee, ScottK: (that's bug 191782) [08:35] Launchpad bug 191782 in slony1 "Slony1 1.2.13 for hardy? ( postgresql 8.3 capable )" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191782 [08:35] dholbach: when did you first test that chip? [08:35] dholbach: e.g. do you know if it worked in gutsy? === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach [08:37] dholbach: could you also please remove the remembered connection from nm-editor before trying the connect [08:38] asac_: I did that [08:38] (mentioned it in the bug too :)) === asac_ is now known as asac [08:39] dholbach: what about gutsy? [08:39] dholbach: another info helpful would be to know if WPA works [08:39] asac: ugh... don't have a gutsy CD here any more [08:39] I can try WPA though [08:39] dholbach: ok try WPA first then [08:43] asac: just normal "wpa personal"? [08:43] dholbach: yes [08:49] dholbach: i assume it doesn't work? [08:58] asac: no, it's seriously unhappy [08:58] attaching the log in a bit [08:58] asac: I remember: the problem in gutsy was a kernel issue (firmware was not loaded) [09:01] asac: log attached === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach [09:03] dholbach: it crashes? [09:03] asac: it only showed "WEP key something" when I selected the network, then I tried to select "shared key" and it crashed [09:04] how do I turn on apport on the livecd? :) [09:04] dholbach: thats on CD? [09:04] yes, on the livecd [09:04] thought it was an instlal ;) [09:04] dholbach: your driver doesn't support wpa [09:04] no, I wanted to see if everything works before I install ubuntu on my girlfriend's laptop :) [09:04] otherwise you won't see AP_SCAN [09:04] 2 [09:05] * dholbach can try WEP [09:05] you can, but chances are low [09:05] wpa is better than open in regards of getting feedback in user-space [09:05] ok... what do you think the problem is in this case? [09:05] dholbach: if you run iwconfig while connecting to a non-hidden network [09:05] the hidden ssid seems to irk NM, but that doesn't seem to be the real problem [09:05] do you see that th essid is set? [09:06] ok... let me get back to public non-hidden [09:09] dholbach: http://acx100.sourceforge.net/wiki/WPA i think an option would be to go for ndiswrapper [09:09] not sure how easy you can test that on livecd though [09:10] dholbach: the problem for open network is that the driver either never associates (which we are trying to figure out now) or it doesn't send a notification to user-space when association has happened [09:12] this sucks :) [09:12] dholbach: so ... do you see a essid set (using iwconfig) while connecting? [09:13] I'm just restarting the machine - network-manager was even more confused after it crashed (and I restarted it) - will let you know in a sec [09:14] ok [09:16] * pitti pokes soren about bug 196149 [09:16] Launchpad bug 196149 in dnsmasq "Please sync dnsmasq 2.41-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)." [Wishlist,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/196149 [09:17] pitti: Oh, right. That one fell completely off my radar. [09:18] asac: yes, I can see it [09:22] yeah.. thats a driver issue then [09:22] dholbach: you could ask ben if its really the latest [09:22] why? [09:22] or try ndiswrapper [09:22] dholbach: because it associates, but doesn't tell userspace that association has happened [09:22] hum [09:22] thats required for networkmanager, but not for dhclient [09:22] dholbach: there is one more thing you could try [09:22] you could try to use AP_SCAN 1 [09:22] instead of two [09:22] so run AP_SCAN 1 sudo NetworkManager ? [09:22] so run AP_SCAN=1 sudo NetworkManager ? [09:22] no [09:22] that won't work :) [09:22] so? :) [09:22] get that branch: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/network-manager/ubuntu.0.6.x.ap_scan [09:22] oh ... hmm you can't do that on livecd i guess [09:22] dholbach: i think its really worth tto check with kernel folks that the driver is really the latest [09:23] it says 0.3.36 which is the latest release [09:23] 20080210 is a snapshot, I guess [09:23] I'll ask [09:23] http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=75380 [09:24] yes, i am not sure if 0.3.36 is the same as 20080210 [09:24] modinfo doesn't show version info [09:25] it shows in iwconfig [09:26] the driver version? [09:26] strange [09:27] Nickname:"acx v0.3.36" [09:33] if we have luck its really outdated and things are fixed in latest [09:41] hmm.... would be really nice, if update-manager would display which repository a package comes from [09:57] asac: it is outdated and the changes are pretty huge [10:00] dholbach: great. good to figure out now [10:00] dholbach: please point th ekernel team to the bug ... i added a linux-ubuntu-modules target by now [10:09] soren: did you test dnsmasq 2.41 in hardy with kvm? [10:09] soren: FF-wise it looks acceptable, so I'll make this dependant on your testing results [10:11] * soren blushes [10:12] Actually, I need to merge it. [10:12] Rather than have it synced. [10:12] I just noticed I changed stuff in dnsmasq after filing the sync request. [10:13] oh, ok [10:13] I'll mark it as invalid then [10:13] soren: if you are happy with the new version, FF exception granted [10:14] soren: ^ copied that to the bug, closed [10:16] * soren questions the integrity of his todo list [10:17] pitti: The changes I did in 2.40-1ubuntu4 were to address the issues you raised in bug 190905 [10:17] Launchpad bug 190905 in dnsmasq "Main inclusion report." [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190905 [10:18] soren: sweet [10:18] How do you debug memory leaks/problems? Valgrind? [10:19] http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valgrind [10:19] pitti: Ok, so I'll do the merge test, report, and we can close the MIR as well? [10:19] soren: no, please don't close the MIR yet [10:19] I'll do it after promotion [10:20] but that needs the package be uploaded, built, and published first [10:20] otherwise promotion will fail [10:21] Ok, cool. [10:21] openoffice 2.4 is released, is it planed to provide it in Hardy ? [10:21] kagou: yes [10:22] oh nice seb128 :) [10:22]