/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/03/28/#ubuntu-ops.txt

PriceChildI've lost a channel :/00:10
jdongPriceChild: that's what.... forget it00:11
PriceChildFound it, -meeting00:11
LjLwhops, he's lost another00:12
PriceChildOi, that was mean!00:13
LjLPriceChild: nah, i was just wondering how long it'd take you to find this one again00:13
PriceChildlucky i was checking /win list00:14
jdongwell you can't /win em all.00:16
jdong:D00:16
LjLhmm, i thought ompaul had gone to bed00:18
LjLseems not00:18
PriceChildjdong: that was baaaaaaaaaad :P00:20
Kamus_H_Zwischhello00:37
PiciKamus_H_Zwisch: How can we help you today?00:37
Kamus_H_Zwischa staff wants to close all unoficial #ubuntu* channels00:37
Kamus_H_Zwisch:(00:37
Kamus_H_Zwischnope00:37
Kamus_H_Zwischjust expressing00:37
Kamus_H_Zwisch:D00:37
PiciWell, we own the #ubuntu* namespace, so I don't see why thats an issue.00:38
Kamus_H_Zwischwhy he do that?00:38
Kamus_H_Zwisch:(00:38
Kamus_H_Zwischplease00:38
Kamus_H_Zwischmake my channel official00:38
PriceChildKamus_H_Zwisch: I have never expressed that intention. We do occasionally close unofficial channels that may confuse new users or for other reasons. You can read freenode policy on channel naming here: http://freenode.net/policy.shtml#channelnaming00:39
Kamus_H_Zwischnot mine00:39
Kamus_H_Zwischbut you understand00:39
Kamus_H_ZwischPriceChild: sorry, the other people in the channel said that00:39
Kamus_H_ZwischPriceChild: i loged just a few minutos ago00:39
PriceChildKamus_H_Zwisch: next time, ask me if its true before telling people I said it in several public channels? :)00:40
Kamus_H_Zwischok00:40
Kamus_H_Zwischsorrry for that00:40
Kamus_H_Zwisch:D00:40
Kamus_H_ZwischPriceChild: but i think a #ubuntubrasil-orkut channel will not confuse new users00:40
Kamus_H_Zwischis a little different00:40
Kamus_H_Zwisch:D00:40
PriceChildKamus_H_Zwisch: I don't believe I've said anything about that channel?00:41
Kamus_H_ZwischPriceChild: is like i said. the i jsut logged a few minutes ago00:41
Kamus_H_Zwisch:D00:41
Kamus_H_ZwischPriceChild: thanks fou your attention00:41
Kamus_H_Zwischatention00:42
PriceChildKamus_H_Zwisch: so lets not be too hasty to claim things :)00:42
Kamus_H_Zwischok00:42
Kamus_H_Zwisch:D00:42
naliothKamus_H_Zwisch: the behaviour in #ubuntubrasil-orkut does not follow the Ubuntu guidelines00:43
naliothkicking staff members doing their jobs is not acceptable00:44
Kamus_H_Zwischnalioth: i'm not a op00:44
Kamus_H_Zwischnalioth: but i'll pass to  ops00:45
PriceChildKamus_H_Zwisch: I am already talking to the op.00:45
Kamus_H_Zwischuhh00:45
Kamus_H_Zwischi see now00:45
Kamus_H_Zwischi'm a op00:45
Kamus_H_Zwischstrange...00:45
Kamus_H_Zwisch5 minutes ago i'm just a common user00:46
Kamus_H_Zwischrealy strange00:46
Kamus_H_ZwischoO00:46
naliothwe have no problem with #ubuntu* channels run in accordance with the Ubuntu and frenode guideliens, Kamus_H_Zwisch 00:46
Kamus_H_Zwischnalioth: thanks :D00:47
Kamus_H_Zwischuhh00:47
Kamus_H_Zwischi'm now ah messenger oO00:48
Kamus_H_Zwischpnordico asked to say: pricechild don't said good things00:48
LjLdidn't he say that it was not what pricechild had said?00:49
Kamus_H_Zwischuh?00:50
Kamus_H_Zwischmy english is not very good00:50
_thomas__LjL, right00:50
Kamus_H_Zwisch_thomas__: traduz00:50
LjLwhat's the price of bananas to do with this? :o)00:51
Kamus_H_ZwischLjL: br?00:51
LjLno00:51
Kamus_H_Zwischbananananana00:51
Kamus_H_ZwischoO00:52
mneptokpersonally, i don;t really see the point of making the channel official. i mean, we don't have #ubuntu.us-facebook00:56
mneptokwhat do we do, open a new channel for every potential social networking site?00:56
Kamus_H_Zwischmneptok: don't ask me00:56
anthonymneptok: not to mention kinds of fruit.  And Spanish presidents.00:58
mneptoki do owe Orkut a debt of gratitude. my experience there has kept me off MySpace and Facebook, for which i am eternally grateful.01:00
LjLKamus_H_Zwisch: the operators of your channel aren't doing themselves a favor. if you want to do them a favor, read the freenode guidelines ( http://freenode.net is the starting point) and the Ubuntu Code of Conduct01:00
Piciicesword: How can we help you this evening?01:00
iceswordno,01:00
iceswordthank you01:00
Kamus_H_ZwischLjL: i see that. but they are a little bit stupids and likes a fight01:00
Piciicesword: Please see the topic then, this is not a 'hang-out' channel.01:01
iceswordi am wondering if a person is ops01:01
LjLKamus_H_Zwisch: well, that's not in the spirit of the code of conduct.01:01
Piciicesword: /msg chanserv access #channel list01:01
Kamus_H_ZwischLjL: try to explain to they01:01
Kamus_H_Zwisch:(01:01
iceswordhe told me he is,but no his name in there01:01
Piciicesword: who?01:01
iceswordheehe,i won't tell you01:01
* mneptok summons nalioth and his Giant Baseball Bat Of Explanations01:01
LjLicesword, it's much better if our users know who are the real operators - the ones they can summon for help when things are not right.01:02
LjLif someone is pretending to be an operator, you'd do the community a favor by pointing it out.01:02
iceswordheheh,no he isn't pretending,01:03
Kamus_H_Zwischkkkkkkkk01:03
Kamus_H_Zwischhahahahaha01:03
iceswordi just asked ?then he answered yes01:03
LjLicesword: well, you said he said he is an operator.01:03
icesworddoesn't hurt anyone01:03
AndrewBLjL: though, if somebody is doing something in good spirit then why should it be pointed out. Say somebody is trolling and somebody take it upon themself to catalyze.. then surley there is no harm done..01:04
LjLicesword: well... yes, it does, because if someone is asking for an operator, it generally means they need an operator - not someone posturing01:04
iceswordi see01:04
LjLAndrewB, so i'll say i'm a staff member next time someone asks? :)01:04
iceswordyou guys know #ubuntu-uncensored01:05
anthonywhy?01:05
AndrewBHmm I suppose, and technically pulling ranks isn't going to do anything. /me fades off to the background01:05
iceswordwhy what?01:06
anthonywhy do you ask?01:06
iceswordcuriosity01:06
LjLi've heard of it.01:06
iceswordthey pulled me into it,just now01:06
iceswordhehhe01:06
AndrewBLjL: I didn't completely read my backlog.. apologys ;)01:06
LjLwhat do you mean "pulled"?01:06
mneptokicesword: "pulled you in?"01:06
iceswordthet asked me to join01:07
anthonyAsked how?01:08
LjLicesword, and so you asked him (the one who asked you to join) if he was an operator?01:08
anthonyPlease provide the context and methods so we know what you mean.01:08
iceswordno,he is not01:08
Kamus_H_Zwischthanks for you atention01:09
Kamus_H_Zwischi'll sleep now01:09
Kamus_H_Zwischgood night01:09
iceswordit doesn't hurt anyone01:09
AndrewBnn Kamus_H_Zwisch 01:10
iceswordanthony, just because people want to be there01:10
mneptokicesword: this person claimed to be an op in #ubuntu* channels, or in ##ubuntu-uncensored?01:10
iceswordwait,not in #ubuntu,and not claim,just he answered yes01:11
Piciicesword: ops are channel specific, not network specific.  i.e. I'm an op in #ubuntu, but not #fedora01:12
iceswordhe answered yes in uncensored01:12
mneptokicesword: so if you ask me "do you have a fish?" and i answer "yes," i can reasonably say that "i never claimed to have a fish?" c'mon ....01:12
iceswordwhy treat it so seriously,doesn' t hurt anyone01:13
Piciicesword: you're the one who brought it up...01:13
iceswordok,let 's drop it then,have a rest01:13
LjLicesword, there are two operators in ##ubuntu-uncensored... :)01:13
iceswordso ...?01:14
LjLicesword, so when you want to see if someone really is an operator, you can simply type /msg chanserv access #channel list - like i've just done to see that there are two01:15
iceswordand this will not bring ops' attention ,right01:15
LjLno01:15
iceswordohhh,bad01:16
LjLno i mean - it will not bring their attention01:16
iceswordok01:16
LjLicesword, a question, why did they ask you to join?01:19
iceswordhehhe,i understand ,they are pulling people,just makes it a popular channel01:20
LjLi see.01:20
anthonyicesword: how did they find out you might be interested?  Did you say something that would have drawn their attention?  What channel were you in at the time?01:21
iceswordheheh,you begin again,is this really important01:21
LjLwell it's curiosity01:22
LjLyou were curious too01:22
iceswordhmm01:22
anthonyicesword: Actually, yes.  Not so much for you individually, but there have been some trends that the Freenode staff are trying to follow, and if you can share this kind of information it would be greatly helpful to both them and us.01:22
iceswordi was at #debian just now01:23
anthonyRight before you were messaged with the invitation?01:23
anthonyWas the person who invited you also in #debian?01:23
iceswordeng01:24
anthonyI don't understand - what's "eng" mean?01:24
iceswordaye,yes =we said en or eng01:24
anthonyah01:25
anthonyicesword: Perhaps if you aren't comfortable sharing here, you'd be willing to provide more details on your encounter just to the Freenode staff - you'll find them in #freenode.01:26
tomawicesword: what's up?01:39
iceswordtomaw, what,i said nothing01:40
tomawicesword: aye.  anthony suggested you may be more comfortable sharing with network staff, of which I am one :)01:42
iceswordyou are one what,network staff?01:43
tomawyes, a member of freenode network staff.01:45
mneptokthat was anticlimactic02:11
* nalioth plugs mneptok toothbrush into a 220v socket02:16
nickrudhey jack. I saw you're gonna be teaching this year. Didn't know you were a teacher. What?02:22
ubotusoldats called the ops in #ubuntu ()02:39
Jack_Sparrownickrud, yep.. need to make some extra money to pay off some medical bills.  hope the job doesnt kill me.. :)03:05
nickrudif the job doesn't the kids probably will 03:05
Jack_SparrowTHanks.. that helps03:06
nickrudheh :) You'll probably enjoy it again, if your presence here means anything03:08
Jack_SparrowIll still try to stop in as often as I can..03:08
nickrudthat's what I saw. my email's on launchpad, keep in touch03:09
Ttech"Aferedahock> ##Linux , #Archlinux & #ubuntu : friendly atmosphere. Nice chatters and ops required."04:09
tritiumThanks for reporting that, Ttech.04:09
Ttech;P04:09
Ttechlol04:09
Ttechhahhaahh04:09
Ttechlmao04:09
Ttechecho?04:09
Ttechwell bye04:09
tritiumTtech: ?04:10
TtechI was jut in Ubuntu04:10
Ttech;P04:10
tritiumYes, I know.04:10
Ttechlol04:10
tritiumWhat's funny, Ttech?04:11
Ttechtritium,  how you said that04:11
Ttechthe thanks04:11
Ttechlike I was not even in #ubuntu04:11
Ttech;P04:11
Ttechlol04:11
* Ttech runs before I get #ubutnu ops mad at me04:11
tritiumTtech: no, as I said, this is the proper place to report it, not #ubuntu04:11
Ttechyes04:12
TtechAnd then you said it like I was not in #ubutnu04:12
Ttechwhen I first said it04:12
Ttechnever midn04:12
tritiumI have no idea what you're trying to say.04:13
mneptokudd bant ger ong basz04:19
tritiumTtech: wil there be anything else?04:20
tritiummneptok: you're silly04:21
mneptokwelg me, you girgik hulra04:22
nickrudtritium gotta remember, he hangs out in -offtopic ;)04:39
tritiumnickrud: oh yeah, that's right ;)04:40
mneptok"hangs out" is a bit strong.04:46
tritiummneptok: care to translate what you said above?04:46
mneptoki mean, i can take some humor at my expense. but let's not be *nasty*, hm? ;)04:46
mneptokTtech: are you almost done in the bathroom?04:48
mneptokeeek!04:51
Hobbseemneptok: don't kick.  remove04:52
mneptoktoo late04:52
Hobbsee...04:52
Ttechmneptok, sorry. :) 04:56
TtechWas away04:56
Ttech;P04:56
tritiumHobbsee: is there any rhyme or reason to who has access level 10 vs. 5 in this channel?04:59
tritiummneptok: might you know?05:06
mneptoktritium: no ideer05:10
anthonytritium: I think it's based on where they are an op.05:14
tritiumanthony, mneptok: thanks, I'm chatting with nalioth about it05:14
anthonytritium: ah, 'k.05:14
tritium:)05:14
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crackerjackz_i was banned about an hour ago08:24
crackerjackz_just wondering why08:24
crackerjackz_was it cuz i said the F word or because i left with a negative attitude?08:24
crackerjackz_or some other reason08:26
jussi01crackerjackz_: Who was it that banned you? you will need to speak to them. 08:28
jussi01@btlogin08:28
fotofloherm, still banned on ubuntu08:28
crackerjackz_im not sure08:29
crackerjackz_i got really frustrated because i kept burning the ubuntu disk, and it would start loading the kernal then it would tell me it was missing a file08:29
crackerjackz_i got frustrated and said " F it" and quit the IRC08:30
crackerjackz_any ways08:30
crackerjackz_i figured maybe if i downloaded it on my other computer and tried burning it then it would work08:30
crackerjackz_so here i am....on my other computer08:30
crackerjackz_i never meant to offend any body or make any one mad08:31
jussi01!guidelines | crackerjackz_: I would suggest a read of these, while you wait for the peron who banned you. Im just lloking up who that is.  08:32
ubotucrackerjackz_: I would suggest a read of these, while you wait for the peron who banned you. Im just lloking up who that is.: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines08:32
crackerjackz_well i wasent saying f it torwads you guys08:32
crackerjackz_i think who ever banned me took it the wrong way (if thats the reason they banned me)08:32
crackerjackz_its late08:32
crackerjackz_by f it i just mean f it08:33
crackerjackz_ill do it later08:33
crackerjackz_its late08:33
crackerjackz_im tired08:33
crackerjackz_meant**08:33
stdinwe have a policy to keep language family-friendly, so no 'f' words at all please08:34
crackerjackz_ok08:35
crackerjackz_i never meant to offend any one =[08:35
ikoniaconsidering he's still banned on #ubuntu - he looks quiet active in there08:39
crackerjackz_??08:39
ikoniacrackerjackz_: I was commenting that your in the #ubuntu channel even though you said you've been banned08:42
crackerjackz_ikonia i went in there to ask why i was banned, and i was directed to go here08:42
crackerjackz_just havent closed it out08:42
crackerjackz_better?08:43
ikoniacrackerjackz_: you may want to do that reasonable quick,08:43
ikoniapeople can consider that ban evading08:43
crackerjackz_ok08:44
crackerjackz_isnt there some sort of log you can look at to see who banned me08:44
jussi01crackerjackz_: were you banned with this name? or another?08:45
jussi01ahh, seems it was ompaul.08:46
crackerjackz_the name i was banned under was " crackerjackz "08:46
jussi01you will need to speak to him. 08:47
crackerjackz_hes not here is he08:47
jussi01no. try again in a few hours08:47
crackerjackz_i still dont really understand why i got banned though08:47
crackerjackz_what i did wasent really bad08:47
ikoniacrackerjackz_: from what you've said, some pretty rude swearing08:48
crackerjackz_i said f it and then closed out BitchX08:48
ikoniacrackerjackz_: pretty rude08:48
jussi01crackerjackz_: I really suggest you come back in a few hours and talk to ompaul. 08:48
ikoniaswearing and running away08:48
ikoniayes, best advice08:48
crackerjackz_well i mean08:48
crackerjackz_it wasent directed torwards any of you08:48
crackerjackz_my train of thought when i said was like screw it ill try tomorrow its late im tired08:49
crackerjackz_yes i should have probably added those other two sentences08:49
crackerjackz_and it wouldnt have sounded so bad08:49
crackerjackz_but i wasent thinking08:49
ikoniacrackerjackz_: someone pasted you the irc guilde lines, even "screw it" wouldn't really have been an acceptable way to behave08:49
ikoniacrackerjackz_: rad the guidelines that where posted above08:49
crackerjackz_i wouldnt have said it if i would have known08:50
jussi01crackerjackz_: please. comeback and talk to ompaul. until he gets here, there is very little we can do.  And yes, please read the guidelines.08:50
crackerjackz_can i just idle here?08:50
Jucatonope08:50
crackerjackz_but i was only baneed from the channel #ubuntu08:51
crackerjackz_not from #ubuntu-ops08:51
JucatoI mean, you'll just have to come back later to check if he's around08:51
jussi01crackerjackz_: its a good idea to read /topic :)08:51
crackerjackz_o08:51
crackerjackz_op only channel?08:51
ubotudgjones called the ops in #ubuntu (gast)09:06
Madpilotdealt with. 09:06
Madpilotbleh. not on irc for ages, and I get to kb when I do come back...09:07
ikoniait's a warm welcome back09:07
* jussi01 huggles Madpilot 09:07
jussi01hrm... what does that mean? (SendQ exceeded)10:09
ikoniaI was just wondering that when you quit10:09
jussi01ikonia: thats my testing quassel core. Ive no idea what just happened to it. 10:10
ikoniaI'm googling,  saw you leave and wondered what that message was10:11
* jussi01 goes to check the bash out put...10:11
Jucatohttp://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/chanlist/trouble.html10:11
jussi01hrm10:12
kloerijussi01: sendq exceeded means that the ircd's queue to your client got full10:13
Jucatoheheh sendQ = send queue :)10:13
kloeriyeah, clever eh? :)10:13
jussi01hehe10:13
jussi01kloeri: what can i do to avoid that?10:14
kloeriexcess flood is when your client send information faster than the server can process it10:14
ikoniaalmost like sendmail and mailq10:14
kloerijussi01: can't really do anything about sendq exceeded other than not clogging up your line with too many torrents :p10:15
ikonianaughty jussi01 10:15
ikonia;)10:15
Jucatoor typing /list over and over again :)10:15
kloerithere's a fairly simple technique you can use to avoid sending text too fast however10:15
jussi01yes?10:16
kloeriyeah, /list can be pretty bad as it sends the full list of (public) channels with no filtering server side10:16
jussi01kloeri: that client is on a webserver, probably the issue. 10:16
kloeriif you want to avoid sending text too fast you can take advantage of knowing how big the buffer is (1500 bytes is a safe bet)10:16
jussi01ahh, exceelent :)10:17
kloeriso for every 1500 bytes you just ping yourself and wait for the pong before sending anymore (that way you know the buffer is empty again)10:17
LynoureDon't kickban me for this, but could someone fix the !o4o to be a bit clearer? If nothing else, the word order is really bad.11:14
PriceChild!o4o11:14
ubotuSome things are inappropriate for #ubuntu-ops. Controversial topics, which always turn into flame(channel) spam, wars: war, race, religion, politics (unless related to software licencing), gender, sexuality, drugs, spreading propaganda, questionable legal activities, removing of oneself from the planet (except by space or time travel) are not for here, perhaps #off-topic or ##politics. Microsoft software in ##windows (Please note Policy)11:14
PriceChildLynoure: what do you suggest?11:15
LynourePriceChild: I don't dare to suggest anything, but I have no idea what "turn into flame(channel) spam" means11:15
Lynouremaybe it's in the wrong place?11:15
PriceChildLynoure: have you heard of the term 'flaming' ?11:17
Lynoure"turn into flame wars" sounds more logical11:17
LynoureYes, been on irc 18 years now.11:17
Lynourebut never heard of flame(channel)11:18
PriceChildthe brackets are there to mean "could turn into flame spam or channel spam I think.11:19
LynoureActually, I think not11:19
PriceChildor to say channel is another word for it11:20
LynoureLooks more like a misplaced replace11:20
LynoureBut, if that's how it is supposed to be, and you find it clear and understandable, not my place to criticize.11:21
LynoureI'm a bit nervous to say this, in fear of getting banned, but I know that's not the point of the text it was originally supposed to be at. It was meant to be added to the list of inappropriate things. 11:25
LynoureI mean, the "(channel) spam" bit.11:26
Lynoureoh well. 11:27
PriceChildgrrr why would we ban? :/11:32
Pici<time-appropriate-greeting-here>!11:33
jpatrickPriceChild: I think sev got annoyed with her suggestions :(11:34
jpatrickafternoon Pici 11:36
* Pici is reading irclogs.ubuntu.com, forgot to re-open irssi last night11:38
ubotuIn #ubuntu-offtopic, J-_ said: !stats is <reply> Statistics for this channel can be found at http://nullcortex.com/irclogs/ubuntu-offtopic.html12:18
PiciNo, I'd rather keep those unofficial.  12:20
jpatrickwhat, logging -ot channels?12:22
Picijpatrick: My bot sits in #ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic because I am (slowly) developing a new bantracker, since it was already sitting in the channels, I thought, hey, why not log and generate stats for them too. 12:42
PiciI already do this for a few other channels the bot is in.12:42
PiciAnyway, I dont want a factoid for it.12:42
jpatrickPici: ahhh, thought it was someone else12:44
jpatrickPici: I say kick13:01
jpatrickah, good, he's gone13:01
jussio1Pici: hei, I have a curiosity question?14:24
Picijussio1: surely14:25
jussio1Pici: is there a reason you told someone not to /msg ubotu guidelines?? when you kicked?14:25
PiciNot?14:26
jussio1Linuturk [n=linuturk@fluxbuntu/developer/Linuturk] has left #ubuntu+1 [requested by Pici: "please don't /msg ubotu guidelines"]14:26
LjLi suppose he meant "please don't: /msg ubotu guidelines"14:26
Picijussio1: er... should have been a comma or a period between those two.14:26
jussio1heh14:26
Piciwhoops14:26
jdonglol14:26
jdongclose enough :)14:26
LjLplease don't /kick jdong14:27
jussio1:P14:27
LjLnalioth, close that channel please.14:37
jussio1yay, we love op impersonators dont we... :/14:38
LjL(while muted:)14:38
LjL[15:38:12] <PriceChildEMO> bazhang, them ask to him to getout of our channel14:38
jussio1oh, really...14:39
LjL!staff14:44
ubotuHey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick, seanw, Dave2, Christel or Gary,  I could use a bit of your time :)14:44
LjLi would like if you could investigate the status of #ubuntubrasil-orkut - as well as check "PricechildEMO" and "Mantega" in #ubuntu14:44
LjL[15:44:28] <PriceChildEMO> LjL, fuck off14:46
Pici*gasp*14:46
LjLjust keeping you updated since they're muted14:46
LjL[15:45:15] <Mantega> I'm still here [15:45:18] <Mantega> assholes14:46
PiciThanks, I didn't feel like staying opped just to watch the show14:46
PriceChildI fail.14:49
* Pici pats PriceChild 14:50
Pici!ping14:53
ubotuping yourself ;-) really the diodes all down my left side are sore14:53
jpatrick"< ~tech_tard> JUST TRYIN TO TY ASS" ?14:53
PriceChildwas told not to use caps, he's saying he was only trying to thank someone15:01
Piciand I removed him15:01
* PriceChild looks over into -proxy-users15:17
LjLPriceChild: yes, he's joined from mibbit there :)15:18
zewbi just got banned for saying "santa maria"15:22
Jack_SparrowNOthing about a cat in your pants or not staying on topic or ban evading?15:23
zewbit was a joke15:23
zewbjesus christ15:23
LjL[13:41] *** zewb!n=zewb@c-76-31-98-7.hsd1.tx.comcast.net has joined #ubuntu15:23
LjL[16:13] <zewb> tengo el gato en mis pantalones15:23
LjL[16:13] <zewb> SANTA MARIA15:23
LjL[16:14] <zewb> hello15:23
zewblol15:23
LjL[16:14] <Kungo> zewb...be carefull that is a very bad word15:24
LjL[16:14] *** zewb has left #ubuntu (requested by LjL: "You should have known better, bye")15:24
LjL[16:20] *** zewb!n=zewb@c-98-199-147-103.hsd1.tx.comcast.net has joined #ubuntu15:24
LjL[16:20] <zewb> why was i just banned?15:24
LjL[16:20] <LjL> zewb, ask in #ubuntu-ops, and you're ban evading by the way15:24
LjL[16:21] <zewb> since when is santa maria a bad word?15:24
LjL[16:21] <zewb> im ban evading because i was banned by racists for expressing my spanish heritage15:24
LjL[16:21] *** zewb has left #ubuntu (requested by LjL: "You should have known better, bye")15:24
LjLcome back when you've grown up, bye15:24
zewbthis is abuse15:24
zewbi was making a joke15:24
zewbrelax15:24
LjL!etiquette15:24
LjL!coc15:24
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LjL!guidelines15:24
ubotuThe Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/15:24
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zewbare you seriously going to ban me for saying i have a cat in my pants in spanish?15:25
LjLno, i'm not going to ban you15:25
PriceChildzewb: lets calm down. #ubuntu is a very busy channel.15:25
zewbwell then unban me15:25
LjLno15:25
elkbuntuzewb, ban evading is a quite serious offense on this network15:26
PriceChildzewb: What is the purpose of #ubuntu?15:27
zewbwhat if the ban was completely unnecessary?15:27
zewbsorry, i just tried to liven things up with some humor15:27
LjLzewb, you've been banned enough times to know what is not acceptable.15:27
LjLcome back in a month, bye15:27
elkbuntuzewb, you were clearly only there to disrupt15:27
zewbi was not15:28
zewbi come here to help people with their ubuntu-related issues15:28
PriceChildzewb: What is the purpose of #ubuntu?15:28
zewbdon't patronize me15:29
elkbuntusince you seem think you've got so much humor, why not humor pricechild by answering his question15:29
zewbthis looks like a textbook case of a severe moderator power trip15:31
LjLzewb: you've been kicked on: Sep 22 2007, Sep 23 2007, Sep 24 2007, Sep 27 2007, Sep 29 2007, Oct 21 2007, Oct 24 2007, Dec 07 2007, Dec 11 2007, Mar 09 2007, Mar 20 200715:32
Picizewb: We are being civil here, please try to cooperate.15:32
zewboh ok, just kick me, that will prove me wrong15:32
LjLcan you seriously think we're going to waste any more time with you?15:32
LjLno, you can't.15:32
PriceChildhe will just evade that15:32
elkbuntuPriceChild, then it goes to the staff :)15:32
PriceChild:/15:32
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jpatrickawooga15:34
zewbwhat is the point of this?15:35
zewbim obviously not going to joke around anymore15:35
zewbwhy continue to kick me over and over?15:35
Picizewb: You have a history of doing this, what makes you think that we're going to believe you this time15:35
Pici..15:35
z3wbplease, just give it a rest15:35
z3wbit's over15:35
z3w8can we just have a calm discussion about this?15:39
Picizewb: You have a history of doing this, what makes you think that we're going to believe you this time15:39
jpatrick+d zewb15:39
Piciyes15:39
LjLdon't say that in here15:40
elkbuntutime for a staff ping?15:40
ubotudgjones called the ops in #ubuntu (sexy (is back))15:40
elkbuntufive bucks zewb and sexu are in cohorts15:41
Picisexy /is/ back. /me points at mneptok 15:41
elkbuntusexy*15:41
zweblet's just talk about this15:41
elkbuntu!staff15:41
ubotuHey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick, seanw, Dave2, Christel or Gary,  I could use a bit of your time :)15:41
LjL!staff15:41
elkbuntu:)15:41
zbew:D15:42
elkbuntuLjL, stay opped15:42
zwerbi have aspergers syndrome15:43
zwerbits not my fault15:43
zwerbok15:43
zwerbthere i said it15:43
TheSheepzwerb: 90% people in irc have it :)15:43
zwerbi know15:44
kloerizwerb: stop evading bans please15:44
jpatrickLjL: +b *.hsd1.tx.comcast.net15:44
LjLno15:44
Picilets ban texas.15:44
Jucato+b zwerb* ? :)15:45
LjLhe's changing those as you can see15:45
PiciI think he wants to see how many times he comes back.15:45
LjLrather, i don't want to ban by <something that might let him stay out>, because i've already done that in #ubuntu15:46
elkbuntu /mode +b z*!z*@* :Þ15:46
LjLhe'd better not realize he can get in *there*15:46
kloeriyou could try banning *!n=zewb@*15:47
LjLyes, that would be the <something that might let him stay out>15:47
LjLyou can see chanserv did that in #ubuntu15:47
elkbuntu /mode +b z*!z*@*.hsd1.tx.comcast.net  would work too15:48
LjLfellows15:48
LjLthis channel is looooggged15:48
LjLwhy don't we give out regular expression classes for trolls too15:48
PiciBut I can do /bans for channels I dont have access to...15:49
LjLPici: if they're -s, yup you can15:49
LjLi think he's given up for the time being15:49
elkbuntuonce staff spoke, yeah15:49
mneptok /mode +b *!*@c-98-19*.*.hsd1.tx.comcast.net15:50
mneptok?15:50
LjLmneptok: see the c-76 (and others i didn't ban)15:51
LjLbut anyway, really, i know how to ban15:51
LjLand i did that in #u15:51
LjLhere i'd rather know what he's trying to do15:51
mneptok"win"15:52
mneptokand don;t try to figure out what that means, as it's pathetic.15:52
LjLi wouldn't have had a doubt on that :P15:52
elkbuntuthat isp loves the number 98...15:53
LjLand 7615:54
LjLat least for texas15:54
elkbuntuyep15:55
LjLi'm not going to /who the whole comcast though, i've had enough exploding computers already15:55
elkbuntuseriously, so many of them have 98 in them *multiple* times15:56
PiciThe #ubuntu ban is working fine.15:57
elkbuntuand he doubled his kick count within an hour. impressive16:05
elkbuntus/doubled/more than doubled/16:05
zuubhello friends16:38
jussi01zuub: hi, how can we help?16:39
zuubwell, a user by the name of LjL has been making sexual advances towards me16:39
jussi01LjL: ahh, ok.16:40
ubotuSlart called the ops in #ubuntu ()16:41
jpatrickPici: smallfoot in +116:42
PiciI know16:42
UixlaHello!16:58
UixlaCan someone unban zewb?16:58
Mez@btlogin16:59
PiciUixla: Are you zewb?16:59
jpatrickMez: just scroll up16:59
Mezjpatrick, ah yes17:00
LjLUixla, no17:01
LjLbonjour bascule17:02
jpatrickhi bascule, how may we help you?17:02
Uixla:(17:02
basculehi17:02
basculethere was an incident last night in here involving someone called icesword17:03
LjLtrue17:03
basculei felt that the descrition he gave could only really apply to me17:03
LjLbascule: what description?17:03
basculeI did not PM him or mention -uc in anyway17:03
basculethedescrition that someone 'him' had claimed to be an op and had pulled him in to -uc17:04
LjLbascule, claiming to be an op is different from being an op... don't worry, we don't jump to certain conclusions that quickly despite rumors17:05
basculehis english was poor and it was a fractured conversation17:05
PiciIndeed.17:05
basculeOK, I just wanted to go on the record has having turned up an explained this was not me, I did not PM him or even mention any other channel to him17:06
LjLbascule: i tend to believe you, if that's any comfort.17:06
basculethanks ljl17:06
basculeit actually is17:06
mneptok4~~17:08
mneptoksorry, birds.17:08
* mneptok gets them onto his lap17:08
Mezmneptok, are you freenode staff now ?17:08
basculethere is nothing else really, thanks for listening, and if my presence in any mainstream channels is causing anxiety or distress atbout my motives there is no need, I am just there17:08
Mezmneptok, wtf ?17:08
PiciMez: ?17:09
MezPici,  ? ? 17:09
* Mez is confused.17:09
mneptokuh?17:09
PiciJust because he isnt making sense doesnt mean that hes staff17:09
mneptokwhat?17:09
* Mez goes to sleep17:09
mneptokPici++17:09
MezPici, no I thought he was staff cause LjL said earlier for him to look at the bans just after he'd said the guy had stopped cause staff had spoke17:09
* Mez is still confused thoguh17:10
mneptokMez: kleori17:10
mneptokbleh. kloeri.17:10
jussi01wow, arent we all having a fun day. 17:10
* mneptok waves for the /notice trigger17:10
Mezmneptok,  ?17:10
mneptokMez: it was kloeri that spoke17:10
Mezmneptok, seriously, can I have some of whatever youre on ?17:11
PiciMez: kloeri is staff. 17:11
mneptokMez: kloeri spoke. zewb stopped. LjL made the staff comment. and i have now said kloeri's nick so many times that he'she has gotten a /stalker notice.17:11
Mez:P17:13
mneptokand the "4~~" was one of my 3 cockatiels, roaming around my keyboard17:13
Meznow it all makes sense17:13
PiciI read that as cocktails17:14
Mezmneptok, I liked it better when you were just being strange 17:14
MezPici, me too ;)17:14
mneptokMez: noticed i never said i wasn't. i just pulled you further into my Zone Of Confusion.17:14
mneptok13:12 <+Mez> now it all makes sense  << think about that. hide the knives, and really think about that.17:15
mneptokwhen my life makes sense, please explain it to me.17:16
* Mez hasnt got time17:16
Mezam too tired...17:16
MezI should have slept more last night17:16
jpatrickmneptok: what's a stalker /notice?17:17
mneptokjpatrick: i'm assuming kl.oeri has a /notice on mention of their nick. and i kept using it.17:18
jpatrickmneptok: ah, away_hilight_notice.pl most likely17:18
ubotuIn ubotu, Jman said: who is jussi01?17:46
jpatrick...17:46
jpatrickubotu: tell Jman about yourself17:46
jussi01heh17:46
pleia2LjL: you about?17:51
LjLyes17:51
jpatrickhi crackerjackz, how can we help you?17:55
crackerjackzim looking for ompaul17:55
crackerjackzi think thats his name17:55
crackerjackzhe banned me from #ubuntu17:56
jpatrickhe's not here at the moment, you'll have to wait17:56
crackerjackzthere seems to some sort of misunderstanding17:56
crackerjackzalright17:56
jpatrickone moment please17:56
crackerjackzto be**17:56
crackerjackzok17:56
jpatrickhmm, can't find you in the bantracker, sorry, best wait till he comes back18:01
crackerjackzit happened about 4 am18:02
crackerjackz5 am18:02
crackerjackzmaybe 3 am18:02
jpatricksame nick as right now?18:02
crackerjackzsomewhere in that ball park18:02
crackerjackzyes sir18:02
crackerjackzdifferent IP though18:02
crackerjackznot sure which IP it was18:02
* jpatrick is not a sir :)18:03
crackerjackzsorry jpatrick18:03
* jpatrick hugs crackerjackz 18:09
crackerjackz=]18:18
crackerjackzhugs not drugs18:18
jpatrickcrackerjackz: "2008/03/28/#ubuntu.log:06:22:30 < crackerjackz> fuck it"18:19
crackerjackzyes18:19
crackerjackzthats what i said18:19
jpatrickyes, it's not allowed in #ubuntu, hence why ompaul banned..18:20
mneptok!language > crackerjackz 18:20
crackerjackzyes i know18:20
crackerjackzwhen i said f it though18:20
crackerjackzmy train of thought was18:20
crackerjackzf it18:20
crackerjackzits late18:20
crackerjackzill worry about it tomorrow18:20
crackerjackzthe comment wasent directed torwards any one in the chat18:20
jpatrickit was just an expression of surprise, I can see18:21
mneptokthat doesn;t matter18:21
mneptokit's a *language* policy, not a motivation policy18:21
crackerjackzi know18:21
crackerjackzi know that now**18:21
jpatrickcrackerjackz: well, I'll tell ompaul when I see him, don't worry :)18:21
crackerjackzok18:22
crackerjackzthank you jpatrick18:22
crackerjackzit wont happen again18:22
jpatrickwb popey 18:22
crackerjackzplease explain to him what i meant about the f it comment18:22
jpatrickcrackerjackz: you're welcome18:22
popeyta18:22
crackerjackzi dont want him thinknig it was directed torwards any one18:22
mneptokcrackerjackz: i doubt he thinks that18:22
crackerjackzmneptok ok good18:23
jpatrickcrackerjackz: well, have a good nights sleep and don't worry18:24
crackerjackzwell im gonna go ahead and stay up the extra few hours so i can actually get on a sleep schedule18:26
crackerjackzi finally did get ubuntu working though =]18:27
jpatrickfirst time on Linux?18:27
crackerjackzwell a friend of mine setup gentoo on my computer about 5-6 months ago through SSH from 3 states away18:27
crackerjackzand iv been learning on that18:27
crackerjackzbut this is the first time on ubuntu18:27
crackerjackz(put ubuntu on my moms computer)18:28
crackerjackzgot tired of formating her windblowz box every 2 months18:28
crackerjackzfrom what iv heard ubuntu is pretty user friendly so i figured it would be perfect for her18:29
jpatrickwell, welcome to Ubuntu :)18:29
crackerjackzthank you18:29
crackerjackzjpatrick can you see the ctcp that i did on my self?18:30
PiciNo, we can't see that.18:30
crackerjackz[14:28:29] CTCP VERSION reply from crackerjackz [n=kvirc@24.149.64.146]: KVIrc 3.2.6 'Anomalies' 20070627 - build Sun Jan 13 08:42:31 UTC 2008 - i686-bcfikopsxAGTZ - Linux (2.6.22-gentoo-r8)18:30
jpatrickcrackerjackz: ctcp's are usually a bad idea18:31
crackerjackzi know18:31
crackerjackzim pretty confident in my security though18:32
jpatrickhey ompaul, just the guy we wanted! :)18:32
crackerjackz=]18:32
jpatrickompaul: you banned crackerjackz yesterday in #u, because he said the f word, when he said it in the sense of surprise, could you look into it?18:33
crackerjackzompaul my train of thought when i said it was like18:33
crackerjackzf it, its late im tired ill worry about it later18:34
ompaulcrackerjackz, <crackerjackz> fuck it ... I know remember it was not 12 hours ago18:34
crackerjackzit wasent directed torwards any one18:34
ompaulehh its not late 18:34
ompaulit is 18:34 you are dealing with a 24/7 thing18:34
ompaulcrackerjackz, got your web browser handy?18:34
crackerjackzompaul yes18:34
ompaulcrackerjackz, I'll take 10 of your minutes so you can understand my thinking18:35
ompaul!guidelines 18:35
ubotuThe people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines18:35
jpatrickompaul: we've shown him !guidelines...18:35
crackerjackzok18:35
ompaulack18:35
ompaulcrackerjackz, read it yet?18:35
crackerjackznot all of it18:35
crackerjackzstill reading18:35
ompaulwhat do you feel the core idea behind it is?18:36
crackerjackzwell i feel that there are plenty of words in the english dictionary to get my point across i didnt really need to use vulgarity18:37
crackerjackzso i understand your posistion18:37
crackerjackzits a family oriented channel18:37
ompaulwould it be fair to say: don't annoy others and keep in mind that other people have other levels of acceptable behaviour so please consider them18:37
crackerjackzcan you rephrase that not sure i follow that18:38
ompaulmulti parts then18:38
ompauldon't annoy others18:38
ompaulothers have different values18:38
ompaulothers have different ideas of what acceptable behaviour18:39
ompaulplease don't annoy / offend them - their culture may not be yours18:39
ompaulthen we can go forward with a level of common interest18:39
crackerjackzunderstandable18:40
ompauli.e. supporting / using software and asking questions about it ;-)18:40
ompaulso would you say that was a fair summary of the ideas in that document?18:41
crackerjackzindeed18:42
crackerjackzaside from no spamming and flooding18:42
crackerjackzbut i guess that would go right along with annoying18:42
ompaulcrackerjackz, if you try to join #ubuntu you will not find the way barred have a good weekend18:43
crackerjackz???18:43
ompaulthe ban is lifted18:44
ompaulhave a good way 18:44
ompaulhave a good day 18:44
jpatrickLjL: bots acting up18:44
jpatrickmode/#ubuntu [-b ljl!*@*] by FloodBot2, FloodBot3, FloodBot118:44
crackerjackzyou mean i can go back in #ubuntu?18:44
LjLjpatrick: they're not really acting up, although they shouldn't all do that...18:44
ompaulcrackerjackz, yes18:45
jpatrickcrackerjackz: yes, you can18:45
crackerjackzompaul thank you18:45
jpatrickLjL:  mode/#ubuntu [+J 2,5] by FloodBot2, FloodBot318:45
jpatrickhmm18:45
ompauljpatrick, that is normal 18:45
jpatrickompaul: ok18:45
LjLthat's the main reason they're there :)18:45
ompaulneither sees it so they do it at the same time18:45
ompaulhehe18:45
LjLompaul: actually they see it...18:46
ompaulcrackerjackz, is there anything else 18:46
LjLompaul: unless they happen to decide to do it at *exactly* the same time, before each other's reaches the server18:46
ompaulack18:46
crackerjackzompaul not that i can think of at the moment18:46
ompaulcrackerjackz, cheers18:46
crackerjackz=]18:47
jpatrick!idle | crackerjackz 18:47
ubotucrackerjackz: Please keep in mind that this channel is for operator/abuse questions only, and we ask you to part when you have no further business here, in order to keep track of users with pending inquiries.18:47
crackerjackzindeed18:48
crackerjackzthanks =]18:48
jpatrickgrr, this jojojo's been trolling for a while..19:22
ompauljpatrick, not any more19:23
jpatrickanyone see what JDS is typing in #ubuntu?20:16
LjLlikely to be koi-8 russian20:16
* jussi01 creeps behind the desk to hide from LjL's @ 20:19
jussi01:)20:19
jussi01heya Pricey_ 20:29
jussi01:(20:30
Garyhe is playing with utf8 jussi01 :p20:33
Garyand failing, hehehe20:33
jussi01hehe20:33
PriceChildGary: I don't want to have to restart :(20:33
Garyfail20:33
GaryI had no choice20:33
LjLPriceChild: you're trying to read koi-8? :P20:33
PriceChildnope20:34
Garyhe just wants to see the little love hearts Seveas does to him20:34
jussi01PriceChild: may I pm for a moment? (if you have time?)20:34
PriceChildof course20:35
LjLGary: oh, his ubuntu has a broken heart?20:40
GaryLjL: no, he just misses the pretty hearts Seveas sends him20:42
LjLso his system doesn't render the heart character correctly20:43
LjLthat's a broken heart in my book20:43
GaryLjL: suppose so21:40
jpatrickI'm forward banning  pgquiles_ to ##fix_your_connection in -motu21:57
jpatrickwill remove first thing tomorrow morning22:01
LjL104... are they exploit happy in some of the channels he's in?22:03
jpatrickhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/61422/22:06
jpatrickmust be the -windows one22:06
ubotuIn #ubuntu, crackerjackz said: ubotu that is way over my head22:20
LjLi concur22:21
PriceChildI haven't done very well this past day or so.22:50
LjLhm?22:50
jdongPriceChild: it's not you22:50
PriceChildjdong: I hate hearing that...22:51
jdongPriceChild: do you get that a lot?22:51
PriceChildObviously being a geek I never get that far, but I hate hearing it.22:52
mneptoki love Ubuntu, i'm just not *in love* with Ubuntu.22:53
mneptoki think we'd do better as friends.22:53
mneptokor the classic, "i'm saving myself for Steve Jobs."22:53
=== zenwhen_ is now known as zenwhen
LjLor the classic, OHNO IT'S MNEPTOK, RUN22:54
mneptoki can smell the fear and panic on the wind. it's ... intoxicating ...22:55
zenwhenHello22:56
zenwhenI am not going to cause a big fuss.22:56
zenwhenBut I am rather unhappy.22:56
PriceChildHey zenwhen :/22:57
zenwhenIf people cannot be critical of those who govern a community, then there is no community.22:57
zenwhenthats really all I have to say.22:58
LjLzenwhen, "being critical" doesn't equal spending your day doing propaganda, though.22:58
zenwhenThe term propaganda is soooo subjective.23:00
PriceChildzenwhen: have you kept up to date with the surrounding events in this channel?23:00
zenwhenyes23:00
LjLzenwhen, well, for starters, i subjectively call sending PMs about another channel to whoever enters a channel - propaganda23:00
PriceChildzenwhen: so do you understand why I placed the ban?23:00
zenwhenNo23:01
zenwhenWas it based on what she said in the channel?23:01
zenwhenOr a PM?23:01
PriceChildzenwhen: so could you PM me so we can discuss things, or read our channel, before we go about critisizing me here in a logged channel?23:01
zenwhenI really do not want to get in a huge debate. 23:02
PriceChildYes I probably shouldn't have done what I did, however I would appreciate you hearing my reasoning before saying such things in here.23:02
zenwhenI have so much else to do.23:02
zenwhenI'm sorry.23:02
PriceChildmeh, me too23:02
zenwhenI just wanted to put that out there. I'm going to be very soured on the whole IRC aspect of the community if people start getting banned left and right in #ubuntuforums. Thats not why I wanted that channel to exist.23:03
zenwhenI wanted it to be so much different than that.23:03
zenwhenIm just gonna go clean my yard. Bye for now.23:03

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