| ryanakca | nixternal: ping, how did you get icecc working? I have all the required ports open on the daemon and scheduler hosts, but the scheduler only recognizes the daemon on localhost, and not on the 2nd daemon host... | 00:40 |
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| nixternal | ryanakca: I just installed icecc on all of my machines...did nothing else really | 01:16 |
| ryanakca | nixternal: hmm... odd. ok, thanks. | 01:29 |
| * ryanakca guesses it's his firewall... | 01:29 | |
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| ScottK2 | awen_: Thanks | 02:56 |
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| ScottK2 | Do you have a good test case that demonstrates the bug that I can use to check if I've fixed it andresj? | 03:09 |
| ScottK2 | We're discussing bug 208556 | 03:10 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 208556 in qt4-x11 "qdbuscpp2xml uses moc-qt3 instead of moc-qt4" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/208556 | 03:10 |
| andresj | ScottK2: I have my own application, but I think that to be sure I would use the one in http://lists.debian.org/debian-qt-kde/2007/03/msg00143.html | 03:10 |
| * ScottK2 looks | 03:10 | |
| andresj | instead of that, qdbuscpp2xml returns <!DOCTYPE node PUBLIC "-//freedesktop//DTD D-BUS Object Introspection 1.0//EN" "http://www.freedesktop.org/standards/dbus/1.0/introspect.dtd">\n<node>\n</node> | 03:11 |
| andresj | (with the \n replaced with newlines) | 03:11 |
| ScottK2 | Right. | 03:12 |
| ScottK2 | nixternal: You around? | 03:13 |
| andresj | never mind... qdbuscpp2xml does that one correctly. | 03:14 |
| andresj | let me find another test case. | 03:14 |
| ScottK2 | OK. | 03:15 |
| andresj | mm... apparently the only reason why it didn't work is because I was using KUrl as the type of an argument of a slot. | 03:24 |
| ScottK2 | So does that make it a lower priority in your opinion then? | 03:25 |
| andresj | i think that then, maybe that's not the problem... because KUrl has existed since KDE 3... | 03:25 |
| andresj | might be that im just using the wrong type. | 03:25 |
| andresj | I'll ask about that in #kde and #kde-devel | 03:27 |
| ScottK2 | Good luck. | 03:28 |
| andresj | :D thanks for your help, though :D | 03:28 |
| nixternal | ScottK2: what's up? | 04:09 |
| ScottK2 | nixternal: I was looking for someone who could help andresj out, but he got headed in the right direction. What do you think about the patch discussed in http://lists.debian.org/debian-qt-kde/2007/03/msg00143.html | 04:10 |
| * nixternal looks | 04:11 | |
| nixternal | that is for Qt 4.2 | 04:12 |
| nixternal | has it been addressed upstream at all? | 04:13 |
| nixternal | ie. the 4.3 release that we have or the 4.4 release coming up soon | 04:13 |
| ScottK2 | Dunno. | 04:13 |
| ScottK2 | I'm pretty qt stupid, which is why I screamed for help. | 04:14 |
| andresj | by the way, I think the problem _was_ that I used KUrl instead of QString in my interface, so while I think that using moc-qt3 instead of moc-qt4 might still cause problems, its not as grave as I thought (it works good in most cases I have tried) | 04:14 |
| ScottK2 | Yes, but if it's a reasonable fix and it helps, we should see about doing it. | 04:15 |
| nixternal | I just ran his test with 4.3 and it produces exactly what he pasted in the report | 04:15 |
| ScottK2 | Sounds like it's valid then. | 04:16 |
| ScottK2 | Does the fix look right to you? | 04:16 |
| nixternal | oh man, that was fixed last year | 04:17 |
| nixternal | the report isn't valid anymore, the test.cpp works as it should | 04:17 |
| nixternal | and I don't have /usr/share/qt4/bin prefixed in PATH either | 04:18 |
| ScottK2 | Ah. OK. | 04:18 |
| ScottK2 | Mark it fix released then please. | 04:19 |
| ScottK2 | nixternal: Thanks for looking at it. | 04:19 |
| nixternal | who should mark it as fixed? | 04:19 |
| ScottK2 | I don't care. | 04:19 |
| * ScottK2 was talking to nixternal, but whoever. | 04:20 | |
| nixternal | what am I supposed to mark as fixed? | 04:20 |
| ScottK2 | bug 208556 | 04:20 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 208556 in qt4-x11 "qdbuscpp2xml uses moc-qt3 instead of moc-qt4" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/208556 | 04:20 |
| nixternal | hrmm | 04:20 |
| * ScottK2 digs back into kde-guidance. | 04:20 | |
| ScottK2 | It may be crusty, but at least it's python. | 04:21 |
| nixternal | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 21 2006-12-16 19:09 /usr/bin/moc -> /etc/alternatives/moc | 04:21 |
| nixternal | ie. moc is an /etc/alternative | 04:21 |
| * ScottK2 can do Python. | 04:21 | |
| ScottK2 | Ah. | 04:21 |
| nixternal | so it is going to use whichever version of qt4 is active | 04:21 |
| nixternal | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 16 2008-02-28 23:02 /etc/alternatives/moc -> /usr/bin/moc-qt3 | 04:21 |
| nixternal | ooh, it is set to moc-qt3 | 04:22 |
| nixternal | interesting | 04:22 |
| ScottK2 | Have fun. | 04:22 |
| nixternal | damn you! | 04:22 |
| nixternal | I guess that would be a packaging bug? | 04:23 |
| nixternal | it isn't a qt bug | 04:23 |
| nixternal | ScottK2: easy fix, just add and update-alternatives line to the qt4-dev-tools.postinst | 04:27 |
| nixternal | or libqt4-dev.postinst rather | 04:27 |
| nixternal | hrmm, actually it is already there | 04:28 |
| nixternal | priority level is 40, to low | 04:28 |
| nixternal | and even running the test with moc-qt4 it still works | 04:29 |
| nixternal | Riddell: when you wake up and get around, check out bug #208556 - it is a valid bug I guess because libqt4-dev.postinst isn't installing at a priority high enough to become the default...though i am not sure how you want to handle this...bug/no-bug | 04:34 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 208556 in qt4-x11 "qdbuscpp2xml uses moc-qt3 instead of moc-qt4" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/208556 | 04:34 |
| nixternal | I guess we could temporarily patch it to do /moc-qt4 instead of relying on the postinst for alternatives priority | 04:34 |
| nixternal | actually, that probably makes the most sense | 04:35 |
| nixternal | ScottK2: ^^ | 04:35 |
| nixternal | as qdbuscpp2xml is a qt4 only app | 04:35 |
| ScottK2 | Yep. that makes sense. | 04:36 |
| nixternal | I will leave that up to Riddell though, Qt4 is his baby | 04:37 |
| nixternal | actually | 04:37 |
| nixternal | patches/05_append_qt4_target.diff:+QMAKE_MOC = \$\$QT_BUILD_TREE/bin/moc-qt4 | 04:38 |
| nixternal | it is already patched | 04:38 |
| * nixternal runs strace | 04:38 | |
| * ScottK2 goes to bed. | 04:38 | |
| ScottK2 | Good night. | 04:38 |
| nixternal | g'nite | 04:38 |
| nixternal | andresj: ahh, you are here | 04:42 |
| nixternal | andresj: that has been fixed for ever a year, there is a patch in the package called 03_launch_moc-qt4.diff that s/\/moc/\/moc-qt4 | 04:43 |
| nixternal | ahh, you figured out the problem already :) | 04:43 |
| nixternal | ScottK2: FYI, that patch has been in the Qt4 package since the beginning of June 2007. | 04:44 |
| andresj | :D but it's not applied to the ubuntu package yet... | 04:46 |
| andresj | I did apt-src install qt4-x11, and checked the source code for that particular file, and it still says "/moc" instead of "/moc-qt4" | 04:47 |
| andresj | oh never mind... the patches are not applied yet... :( now is when its showed that I know nothing about Debian packaging :D | 04:48 |
| nixternal | lol | 04:48 |
| nixternal | you will learn young jedi :) | 04:48 |
| andresj | xD | 04:48 |
| nixternal | the patches get applied during the build process | 04:48 |
| andresj | I see. | 04:49 |
| nixternal | man, I was confused for the first 10 minutes of looking at that bug | 04:55 |
| nixternal | I followed the test.cpp from the debian report, and it worked as it should | 04:55 |
| andresj | well I wrote a comment explaining my ignorance in the bug page :D | 04:56 |
| nixternal | good that you caught it though..I just never realized you were the same person at first who filed the bug until I went to your wiki page :) | 04:57 |
| andresj | hahaha, well your nickname has nothing to do with your name either (as far as I can tell :D) | 04:58 |
| nixternal | not yet it doesn't...if they let me change my name legally then I will be good :) | 05:04 |
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| Artemis_Fowl | AUTOMAGIC KERNEL LIST in (K)ubuntu GRUB's config is necessary for what? | 09:15 |
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| jpatrick | Artemis_Fowl: updating the kernel | 10:16 |
| Artemis_Fowl | jpatrick: could you explain some more? are they absolutely necessary? | 10:17 |
| jpatrick | Artemis_Fowl: yes, when you install a new kernel, it automagically places and removes the necessary entries from the list | 10:18 |
| Artemis_Fowl | jpatrick: and what happens if those lines are deleted? won't the kernels update? | 10:18 |
| jpatrick | Artemis_Fowl: hmm, good question | 10:19 |
| jpatrick | Artemis_Fowl: it probably goes about crying and trying to restore them | 10:22 |
| Artemis_Fowl | jpatrick: so if you delete them, is this a big problem or of minor importance? | 10:23 |
| jpatrick | Artemis_Fowl: don't think it's recommended.. | 10:24 |
| Artemis_Fowl | jpatrick:hmm | 10:25 |
| seaLne | Artemis_Fowl: it means when you install a new kernel it won't automatically be used | 10:26 |
| seaLne | Artemis_Fowl: are you just wondering what it is for or are you trying to do something specific with kernels? | 10:27 |
| Artemis_Fowl | one min | 10:28 |
| Artemis_Fowl | seaLne: actually because of this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kgrubeditor/+bug/196756 | 10:30 |
| Artemis_Fowl | seaLne: I develop KGRUBEditor | 10:30 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 196756 in kgrubeditor "kgrubeditor doesn't recognize AUTOMAGIC KERNEL LIST entries" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 10:30 |
| seaLne | ah, well for debian based distributions i'd say it was very important not to break the AUTOMAGIC section | 10:34 |
| Artemis_Fowl | seaLne: actually the AUTOMAGIC section is a GRUB misuse | 10:35 |
| seaLne | as most people expect it to work | 10:35 |
| seaLne | Artemis_Fowl: quite possibly | 10:35 |
| seaLne | but its the way kernels have been handled in debian for a long time | 10:36 |
| Artemis_Fowl | and moreover a pain in the neck for developers :) | 10:36 |
| seaLne | when a debian kernel is installed it looks for the AUTOMAGIC section so it can add the new kernel details in the correct place | 10:37 |
| Artemis_Fowl | seaLne: as I can see the AUTOMAGIC sections is something like this: | 10:40 |
| Artemis_Fowl | ### BEGIN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST | 10:40 |
| Artemis_Fowl | ## some comments | 10:40 |
| Artemis_Fowl | ## some more comments | 10:40 |
| Artemis_Fowl | # an option | 10:40 |
| Artemis_Fowl | 10:40 | |
| Artemis_Fowl | ## some comments | 10:41 |
| Artemis_Fowl | ## etc etc etc | 10:41 |
| Artemis_Fowl | ## ## End Default Options ## | 10:41 |
| Artemis_Fowl | 10:41 | |
| Artemis_Fowl | title Debian | 10:41 |
| Artemis_Fowl | kernal dummy_kernel | 10:41 |
| Artemis_Fowl | 10:41 | |
| Artemis_Fowl | title and so on | 10:41 |
| Artemis_Fowl | ### END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST | 10:42 |
| Artemis_Fowl | right? | 10:42 |
| Hobbsee | dude, pastebin? | 10:42 |
| seaLne | yep | 10:42 |
| Artemis_Fowl | seaLne: does any other distro 'misuse' GRUB's comments in a similar manner from your experience? | 10:48 |
| Artemis_Fowl | seaLne: for Debian-based I think I can patch this | 10:49 |
| seaLne | i haven't really used any non debian based distros in years | 10:51 |
| jpatrick | debian/rules | 10:51 |
| Artemis_Fowl | i think opensuse has a similar system. i'll check it out | 10:51 |
| * jpatrick says "yay" | 11:00 | |
| jpatrick | alpine just decided to delete all my @kubuntu mail | 11:00 |
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| \sh | whatever alpine is ;) | 11:01 |
| jpatrick | freely licensed version of pine | 11:02 |
| fdoving | good thing you have backups then :) | 11:03 |
| jpatrick | err, no, imap | 11:03 |
| \sh | jpatrick: this is really bad then :) | 11:04 |
| fdoving | kubuntu mail can't be that important anyway :) | 11:04 |
| jpatrick | \sh: I suppose so, been meaning to clear it all out anyway | 11:04 |
| Hobbsee | fdoving: or is all archived | 11:05 |
| fdoving | yep. | 11:06 |
| seaLne | even the large quantities of spam to @kubuntu ? :) | 11:06 |
| jpatrick | canonical must set up an anti-spam filter | 11:07 |
| seaLne | thats up to the user imho | 11:08 |
| * \sh just got one or two spam mails in the last month from @ubuntu mail | 11:08 | |
| seaLne | i get spam to the 4 addresses on my gpg key usually one after the other in the order on the key :-/ | 11:09 |
| * Hobbsee gets lots of spam from @ubuntu.com | 11:09 | |
| fdoving | i get alot too. | 11:09 |
| * jpatrick gets about 7 daily | 11:09 | |
| * \sh never used the @ubuntu.com mail address in public...afaik.. | 11:09 | |
| fdoving | not sure which address, but it comes from fiordland.ubuntu.com usually. | 11:09 |
| jpatrick | I blame all the package list | 11:10 |
| jpatrick | -s* | 11:10 |
| seaLne | i blame the spammers | 11:10 |
| \sh | well, more bad is when they send out spam with your personal email address as sender...and no one is checking the SPF records :( so I get many "return to sender" mails from anyone else... | 11:11 |
| \sh | the internet is broken by design, imho ;) | 11:12 |
| fdoving | no doubt about it. | 11:12 |
| fdoving | wasn't designed to do what it currently is doing. | 11:13 |
| \sh | well, it was designed to resists an a-bomb...but I think humans are much worse then the a-bomb | 11:13 |
| seaLne | yeah as usual the users are the problem | 11:14 |
| \sh | yeah osi layer 8 bug | 11:15 |
| \sh | the problem is sitting in front of the keyboard and screen | 11:15 |
| \sh | it's one bug we will never solve | 11:15 |
| jpatrick | awen_: hey, how did the bash thing go? | 11:25 |
| awen_ | jpatrick: the conclusion was, that it wasn't removed by accident... but they considered to include the bash_completion package on the cd, but without ubuntu-standard depending on it | 11:26 |
| awen_ | jpatrick: so i would suppose that we should do the same on the kubuntu cd's ? | 11:27 |
| jpatrick | awen_: probably /me still thinks zsh > * | 11:27 |
| fdoving | i think i'm getting old. i start hating changes, policykit, apparmor, bash_completion etc. don't like them. | 11:28 |
| \sh | awen_: hmmm? "they" removed bash_completion from the -standard seed? | 11:28 |
| awen_ | jpatrick: and zsh has the equivalent of bash_completion? | 11:28 |
| jpatrick | awen_: built-in and maintained by upstream | 11:28 |
| awen_ | \sh: yes... it had been unmaintained upstream for some time, that was why | 11:29 |
| jpatrick | awen_: did you try out the .zshrc I gave? | 11:29 |
| \sh | hmm...so why we don't compile our own stuff for bash? I mean, not overbloated but good completion defaults | 11:29 |
| awen_ | jpatrick: no not yet... i'm just going to boot up my virtual machine and test zsh | 11:30 |
| jpatrick | awen_: cool | 11:30 |
| awen_ | \sh: there was some talk about, that someone was going to ressurrect it in some way (nothing really clear) | 11:31 |
| awen_ | \sh: i was mostly pointed at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/03/26/%23ubuntu-devel.html <--- look at 14:24 and forward | 11:32 |
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| \sh | awen_: ah yes..I remember | 11:34 |
| awen_ | the il8n is a little to complete... all the languages is also written in the default locale when you want to change it; so changing to a language that you don't know and it is getting a bit hard changing back | 11:36 |
| awen_ | jpatrick: zsh gives me a lot of warnings regarding the .zshrc when starting, like "command not found ^M" | 11:46 |
| jpatrick | awen_: can you pastebin them? | 11:46 |
| awen-hardy-test | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/61451/ | 11:49 |
| awen_ | jpatrick: there ^^ | 11:49 |
| jpatrick | ... | 11:49 |
| jpatrick | those should be the key bindings for all the functions | 11:50 |
| Hobbsee | awen_: remove the ^M's then, and don't use notepad/etc to edit them | 11:50 |
| jpatrick | awen_: do you have a prompt at least? | 11:50 |
| Nightrose | Tonio_: yay for working OSD in Konversation :) thx a lot | 11:51 |
| jpatrick | awen_: if so try: apt-<tab> and tell me what you think | 11:51 |
| awen_ | jpatrick: yes... nothing written that indicates that it is a prompt, but it works | 11:51 |
| zorglu_ | q. before i found a channel with the ubuntu people which take care about all the server/mirror to store the .deb of ubuntu. i dont remember the name tho... anybody got suggestion? | 11:51 |
| jpatrick | zorglu_: #ubuntu-motu? | 11:52 |
| awen_ | jpatrick: i think it needs to read the .zshrc correctly... things jump around on the screen | 11:52 |
| awen_ | Hobbsee: I can't find them... they are empty lines, and deleting/restoring the empty lines in nano doesn't help | 11:53 |
| jpatrick | awen_: hmm | 11:53 |
| zorglu_ | jpatrick: well no, it was more about the storage, not that much the building of the .deb :) but yep #ubuntu-motu may know, thanks :) | 11:54 |
| Hobbsee | awen_: what editor are you looking in? | 11:54 |
| awen_ | Hobbsee: nano atm | 11:54 |
| Hobbsee | ahh | 11:54 |
| awen_ | "wget http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/61424/plain/" as .zshrc and it still complains | 11:58 |
| * awen_ is back in 20 minutes | 11:58 | |
| jpatrick | awen_: copy and paste from Konqueror, might be a pastebin thing.. | 11:59 |
| * Hobbsee looks at it for interesting bits | 12:00 | |
| Hobbsee | # Follow GNU LS_COLORS for completion menus | 12:00 |
| Hobbsee | what's that do? | 12:00 |
| Hobbsee | do bad symlinks show up as red with that? | 12:00 |
| jpatrick | Hobbsee: makes ls pretty | 12:00 |
| Hobbsee | jpatrick: like what? | 12:00 |
| jpatrick | Hobbsee: @ for links, and stuff like "music/" for folders | 12:01 |
| jpatrick | Hobbsee: just save as .zshrc and see ;) | 12:02 |
| smarter | ls -F does the @ and / things | 12:02 |
| smarter | zstyle ':completion:*' list-colors "${(s.:.)LS_COLORS}" add colors to the zsh completion | 12:02 |
| smarter | jpatrick: do you know how to force zsh to complete some files? | 12:03 |
| smarter | it doesn't want to complete .pro files(qmake project) | 12:04 |
| jpatrick | smarter: hmm, howso? | 12:04 |
| Hobbsee | ...zcalc...*drool* | 12:05 |
| jpatrick | Hobbsee: things I like most are lines 222 to 239 | 12:07 |
| smarter | jpatrick: when I do touch a.pro && ls a[tab] I don't see the .pro file | 12:07 |
| Hobbsee | enolines | 12:07 |
| jpatrick | smarter: because the file doesn't exist to it yet probably.. | 12:07 |
| smarter | nevermind I found why ;) | 12:07 |
| Hobbsee | *grin* | 12:08 |
| Hobbsee | tetris! | 12:08 |
| smarter | I had that in my config file: fignore=(.o .c~ .pro) | 12:08 |
| * Hobbsee drools | 12:11 | |
| Hobbsee | insert files looks nice, too! | 12:11 |
| Hobbsee | bah. mine already does that. | 12:11 |
| Hobbsee | prediction looks nice, though | 12:12 |
| jpatrick | it's so good it's evil | 12:13 |
| Hobbsee | too bad if some command came up that i didn't want though :P | 12:15 |
| awen_ | jpatrick: that worked better :) ... seems the plain mode is broken | 12:17 |
| jpatrick | awen_: that explains it :) | 12:18 |
| nosrednaekim | QTCurve is awesome.... | 12:18 |
| Hobbsee | jpatrick: ah yes, they look neat | 12:18 |
| nosrednaekim | hardy is awesome for that matter | 12:18 |
| jpatrick | Hobbsee: :) | 12:19 |
| awen_ | jpatrick: now i just need to know how to change the default shell ;) | 12:20 |
| Hobbsee | awen_: chsh | 12:20 |
| smarter | awen_: chsh | 12:20 |
| awen_ | ahh... almost to easy, thanks :) | 12:21 |
| jpatrick | is it my turn? awen_ chsh | 12:21 |
| jpatrick | awen_: you just do: chsh -s /usr/bin/zsh | 12:21 |
| * Hobbsee grumbles | 12:22 | |
| Hobbsee | stuff like 'ls' doesn't work now. | 12:22 |
| Hobbsee | unless i use 'ls<space><backspace> | 12:22 |
| jpatrick | ... | 12:22 |
| jpatrick | alias ls="ls -F --color=always" | 12:23 |
| * awen_ thinks it still misses some very important functions regarding ssh/scp | 12:24 | |
| jpatrick | awen_: yeah, you may want to remove the line with _myhosts=( ${${${${(f)"$(<$HOME/.ssh/known_hosts)"}:#[0-9]*}%%\ *}%%,*} ) and the one below it | 12:25 |
| awen_ | jpatrick: not better... it doesn't seem to pick up hosts from ssh_config :( | 12:28 |
| jpatrick | hmm, never used that before.. | 12:29 |
| Hobbsee | you have tried gnome-do, ahven't you? | 12:29 |
| Hobbsee | or katapult, if it supports it | 12:30 |
| awen_ | jpatrick: it's nice... especially if you have different usernames, you want it to pick up the alias/hostnames in ssh_config | 12:30 |
| * jpatrick goes off for a bit... hardy upgrade | 12:30 | |
| jpatrick | awen_: will check it out later | 12:31 |
| awen_ | jpatrick: okay... but in general, nice :) | 12:31 |
| * awen_ wonders who Hobbsee was questioning... | 12:32 | |
| * jpatrick thinks... you :) | 12:32 | |
| Hobbsee | whoever. | 12:32 |
| * awen_ haven't tried gnome-do | 12:32 | |
| Jucato | Hobbsee: I'm jealous of that... but haven't tried it yet myself... is it in Gutsy? | 12:34 |
| * Jucato was hoping Katapult would have grown by now... | 12:34 | |
| Hobbsee | Jucato: i've got a backport of it, but i think it's old | 12:34 |
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| Jucato | Hobbsee: lol!! the printer config system tray behaves a lot like Windows system tray notifications :) | 12:35 |
| Jucato | or is that generally true of GNOME? | 12:35 |
| * Hobbsee hasn't noticed it | 12:35 | |
| * Hobbsee doesnt' have such a thing - might have disabled it | 12:35 | |
| Jucato | it just popped first to tell me that the printer is ready to be used, then 2nd to tell me that I'm low on ink | 12:35 |
| nosrednaekim | Jucato: heh | 12:36 |
| Jucato | with a yellow balloon/popup with a close button at the upper right corner :) | 12:36 |
| nosrednaekim | Jucato: them is what you call "features" :P | 12:36 |
| Hobbsee | oh yeah | 12:36 |
| Hobbsee | Jucato: people complained about how that worked. | 12:36 |
| Hobbsee | Jucato: so they added the bubble | 12:37 |
| Jucato | heh but the bubble (with the close button) is soooo XP! :) | 12:37 |
| Hobbsee | that was the point | 12:37 |
| Jucato | (sorry, first time GNOME user in a long time :P) | 12:37 |
| Hobbsee | people were thinking that the printers hadn't been recognised, as they hadn't been told about it. | 12:37 |
| Jucato | Hobbsee: the notification thing is not what I'm having smiling about :) | 12:38 |
| * nosrednaekim thinks of Suse which has a really annoying "First time hardware" wizard.... | 12:38 | |
| Jucato | it's just that it has that close button at the corner :D | 12:38 |
| Jucato | and the bubble is yellow and the button is almost red... :) | 12:39 |
| Jucato | anyway, I'm looking forward to Kubuntu's own printer config :D | 12:39 |
| * Jucato is not touching Hardy until the release. wants to be surprised :D | 12:39 | |
| nosrednaekim | uhhh oh.....I better get crackin then ^_^ | 12:40 |
| Jucato | heh I'm not the one you should be worrying about :P | 12:40 |
| * nosrednaekim thinks of the vampire users and agrees | 12:41 | |
| Jucato | hm.. I just noticed that their Add/Remove Programs doesn't ask for the password until it's time to install... like KPackage... | 12:45 |
| nosrednaekim | packageKit... | 12:47 |
| Jucato | :P | 12:48 |
| Jucato | soon | 12:48 |
| nosrednaekim | whooops... I mean "PolicyKit" | 12:48 |
| nosrednaekim | thats what allows them to do that | 12:48 |
| Jucato | :P | 12:48 |
| Jucato | soon too :) | 12:49 |
| nosrednaekim | yep | 12:51 |
| nosrednaekim | ha.... so I get this "crappy" intel celeron laptop and it ends up being faster than my X2 one | 12:53 |
| xRaich[o]2x | Hmm i ported asoundconf-gtk to qt4. How do i get it out to the real world? | 12:55 |
| nosrednaekim | xRaich[o]2x: awesome... probably make a launchpad project for ir | 12:57 |
| xRaich[o]2x | nosrednaekim: There is one for asoundconf-ui now i want to make a qt4 branch | 12:58 |
| Jucato | or qt-apps.org. but LP has more goodies | 12:58 |
| xRaich[o]2x | Looks a bit confused at the addbranch form | 12:59 |
| nosrednaekim | xRaich[o]2x: did you rewrite any of the backend? | 13:02 |
| nosrednaekim | becuase if so, you probably don't want to branch it | 13:02 |
| xRaich[o]2x | Nope it's just a new frontend | 13:02 |
| nosrednaekim | xRaich[o]2x: in that case, yeah, branch it. Its really simple | 13:03 |
| * xRaich[o]2x wants to make a branch asoundconf-qt4 | 13:03 | |
| xRaich[o]2x | ok i don't really get the stuff with the ssh key | 13:04 |
| xRaich[o]2x | branch is created | 13:04 |
| nosrednaekim | now you can just push to that branch, or you can switch your local copy to using that branch. let me look up the command for that | 13:06 |
| xRaich[o]2x | nosrednaekim: i read that i need to register an ssh key first. how do i do that? | 13:06 |
| xRaich[o]2x | and how do i create that key | 13:07 |
| * xRaich[o]2x feels stupid ^^ | 13:07 | |
| nosrednaekim | !ssh | 13:07 |
| ubotu | SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ | 13:07 |
| nosrednaekim | hrm... I think there is a tutorial up on Launchpad | 13:07 |
| TheInfinity | xRaich[o]2x, i also felt stupid about this, i didnt get 5-bugs-a-day running in osx | 13:07 |
| xRaich[o]2x | TheInfinity: Never really had a need to do this before ^^ | 13:08 |
| TheInfinity | and linux does not run well native, so i often reinstall it for tests -> moep. | 13:08 |
| xRaich[o]2x | ok got an ssh key ^^ | 13:12 |
| nosrednaekim | xRaich[o]2x: edit your launchpad profile and add it | 13:13 |
| xRaich[o]2x | nosrednaekim: been there done that ;) | 13:13 |
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| xRaich[o]2x | nosrednaekim: is there a structure i need to have inside that branch? | 13:16 |
| xRaich[o]2x | or is it enough to just put the files into it? | 13:16 |
| nosrednaekim | xRaich[o]2x: structure? no, but i'dkeep it as close to trunk as possible | 13:16 |
| nosrednaekim | woah... Hardy doesn't use ksplash? | 13:17 |
| awen_ | nosrednaekim: mine does (kde3) ... and iirc my vm with a new beta-install did too | 13:20 |
| xRaich[o]2x | nosrednaekim: whoops. just found out that someone already ported it. Well, i consider it an excercise in python ^^ | 13:21 |
| * awen_ didn't rrc | 13:21 | |
| awen_ | nosrednaekim: yes seems that ksplash has been disabled in hardy | 13:22 |
| nosrednaekim | xRaich[o]2x: :) | 13:23 |
| xRaich[o]2x | at least i finally learned how to handle regex ^^ | 13:23 |
| smarter | Riddell: ping | 13:48 |
| ryanakca | nixternal: ping, have you managed to use icecc with kdesvn-build yet? | 13:51 |
| ryanakca | methinks he'll have to write some documentation for it once he gets it figured out... | 13:52 |
| davmor2 | anyone is the new menu system in KDE4 still called Kmenu or is it actually called plasma now ? | 13:53 |
| smarter | it's kickoff | 13:53 |
| davmor2 | thanks just doing updates to the testing page :) | 13:53 |
| Nightrose | hmm something is screwed here - when right clicking on a file in dolphin it opens the file and the menu - can someone reproduce this? (hardy and kde 4) | 13:59 |
| seaLne | jpatrick: Bug #208801 | 14:45 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 208801 in kdebase "encrypted volumes aren't decrypted if the password is a space" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/208801 | 14:45 |
| seaLne | presumably some lack of escaping | 14:46 |
| * seaLne really needs to get a usb hub so he dosen't have to keep swapping between pendrives | 15:06 | |
| smarter | Riddell: ping | 15:16 |
| jpatrick | seaLne: hmmm | 15:29 |
| ScottK2 | nixternal: What'd you conclude about the but we were discussing last night? | 15:32 |
| seaLne | jpatrick: i'll have a look at it while i'm trying to get raw devices working | 15:32 |
| jpatrick | seaLne: really must get to grips with c++/qt this year | 15:34 |
| seaLne | where did the luks stuff come from? | 15:34 |
| jpatrick | seaLne: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=113629 | 15:39 |
| ubotu | KDE bug 113629 in media "Complete LUKS support (especially mounting)" [Wishlist,New] | 15:39 |
| nixternal | ScottK2: our Qt4 is fixed...he made a booboo in the code that caused the problem | 15:40 |
| jpatrick | seaLne: the author is on LP, I'll subscribe him to the bug | 15:44 |
| ScottK2 | nixternal: Cool. Thanks. | 15:44 |
| seaLne | jpatrick: so is it currently an old version of the patch in kubuntu? | 15:49 |
| jpatrick | seaLne: no, the update was uploaded | 15:49 |
| seaLne | k | 15:49 |
| jpatrick | bug #186841 | 15:50 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 186841 in kdebase "[hardy] Please merge latest version of kio media LUKS support" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/186841 | 15:50 |
| Artemis_Fowl | kdelibs for KDE4 are appropriately packaged? | 16:10 |
| Artemis_Fowl | I think I miss some header files | 16:10 |
| Artemis_Fowl | I indeed miss some files..... | 16:14 |
| Kryczek | Hi! | 16:14 |
| Kryczek | Can anybody please help me understand my kio_http problem? | 16:14 |
| Kryczek | nothing relying on HTTP in KDE works anymore: Konqueror, Kopete (for the MSN protocol but not AIM/ICQ/GTalk at least), KWeather, etc | 16:15 |
| Kryczek | and it does so since an upgrade yesterday | 16:15 |
| Kryczek | I'm running Kubuntu 8, but I upgraded to 8 because I had exactly the same problem in 7 | 16:16 |
| Kryczek | it worked for a few days, and yesterday i noticed an upgrade for KDE packages, and now it doesnt work anymore | 16:16 |
| ScottK2 | Kryczek: It's not a global problem as I've been using Konqueror today without issue on a fully updated Hardy system. | 16:17 |
| ScottK2 | Kryczek: Try creating a new user and see if it has the same problem. Support is in #kubuntu or #ubuntu+1. | 16:18 |
| Kryczek | ScottK2: i'm in them already ;/ | 16:19 |
| Kryczek | but I thought developers would know best how to understand such a problem | 16:20 |
| ScottK2 | OK. Well there are developers in those channels too. | 16:20 |
| ScottK2 | I gave you a suggestion, but I don't think you're facing a development related issue. | 16:20 |
| Kryczek | i know, i'm a developer myself | 16:21 |
| Kryczek | but i was right to come ask here: it works with another user indeed :D | 16:21 |
| smarter | Kryczek: maybe you have something wrong in your ~/.kde | 16:25 |
| Kryczek | i was just looking at my .kde/share/config/kio_httprc | 16:25 |
| Kryczek | and the only difference was lines about cache settings missing in my ~/.kde whereas present in the other user's ~/.kde | 16:26 |
| Kryczek | so I unchecked "use cache" in Konqueror's Settings panel | 16:26 |
| Kryczek | curiously it added those lines in the kio_httprc | 16:26 |
| Kryczek | and now it works o_O | 16:26 |
| Kryczek | ScottK2: smarter: thanks a lot :) | 16:27 |
| smarter | Kryczek: if it's a reproducible issue, consider reporting the bug | 16:28 |
| Kryczek | sure.. but do i need to create an account on launchpad again? i always forget the password :( | 16:29 |
| smarter | launchpad can mail you your password if you forgot it iirc | 16:30 |
| seaLne | how do i tell kded stuff via dcop? | 16:55 |
| fdoving | what do you want to tell it? | 16:55 |
| smarter | dcop kded [tab] | 16:55 |
| fdoving | or use kdcop to browse | 16:55 |
| seaLne | ta | 16:55 |
| seaLne | hmm ERROR: Couldn't attach to DCOP server! | 16:56 |
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| fdoving | it is kde3, right? | 16:57 |
| seaLne | yeah, hmm stupid ssh | 16:57 |
| fdoving | ah, then you need to fix the environment. | 16:58 |
| seezer | seaLne: try `export DISPLAY=:0.0` or something | 16:59 |
| nareshov | Is it okay to delete the build dir ( I compiled KDE4 from trunk) ? | 17:00 |
| fdoving | nareshov: yes, if you don' | 17:03 |
| fdoving | t plan to recompile it soon it's safe after you've ran 'make install' | 17:03 |
| fdoving | seezer: DCOPSERVER is also needed iirc. | 17:04 |
| nareshov | ok | 17:04 |
| seezer | fdoving: i only correct the display - worked for years :) but perhaps that differs from setup to setup. | 17:06 |
| fdoving | you won't get access to the correct DCOP server that way. | 17:07 |
| seezer | if multiple dcop servers are running? | 17:08 |
| seezer | in general that worked for me (connecting to 'desktops') running one X11 and one single KDE session | 17:09 |
| seaLne | bah this is confusing having 3 different pendrives plugged in | 17:13 |
| Kryczek | smarter: reported as https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdelibs/+bug/208872 :) | 17:15 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 208872 in kdelibs "Missing lines in kio_httprc break all HTTP support in KDE" [Undecided,New] | 17:16 |
| fdoving | bbl. | 17:17 |
| ryanakca | aaah... 55.4% CPU for xorg... hmm... | 17:45 |
| seaLne | is mounting things via konq/d3lphin done via hal? | 18:32 |
| ryanakca | Did we want a "Press room" view like u.c or did we want an "Archive" / posts per month (like on a blog) item? | 18:36 |
| T0m4rn0ld | hellos, i need some help i guess .. i really want to extend konqueror but im a total newb and i think i will need a bit of help. i compiled kde4 from svn and it works. but understanding the konqueror code seems quite hard .. what should i read or do? | 19:11 |
| seaLne | you might be better asking in #kde-devel | 19:12 |
| T0m4rn0ld | ok | 19:13 |
| T0m4rn0ld | thank you | 19:13 |
| NamShub | "extend konqueror"? | 19:14 |
| T0m4rn0ld | yes, like firefox plugins | 19:27 |
| T0m4rn0ld | mostly web stuff | 19:28 |
| * smarter would like a "full fullscreen"(firefox extension)-like for Konqueror (: | 19:32 | |
| NamShub | what do you want to do exactly? | 19:32 |
| smarter | fullscreen without buttons tabs, scrollbars or anything, very useful on small devices | 19:33 |
| NamShub | smarter: it works here | 19:34 |
| NamShub | ctrl+m, then F11 | 19:34 |
| smarter | NamShub: you still have the buttons, the tabs and and the scrollbars | 19:35 |
| NamShub | thats right i still see the scrollbar | 19:36 |
| NamShub | sorry | 19:36 |
| fdoving | smarter: you can atleast hide the statusbar with ViewT0_ShowStatusBar=false in the profile-rc. | 19:41 |
| T0m4rn0ld | i just wanna port some FF extentions i am used to | 19:41 |
| fdoving | not sure how one can hide the scrollbar. | 19:41 |
| T0m4rn0ld | like "How´d I get here" or "Reload/Stop" | 19:41 |
| smarter | fdoving: thanks for the tip | 19:42 |
| smarter | T0m4rn0ld: Reload/Stop? | 19:42 |
| T0m4rn0ld | Reload and Stop in one button | 19:43 |
| T0m4rn0ld | like Safari | 19:43 |
| smarter | Konqueror in Kubuntu already do it | 19:43 |
| fdoving | doesn't konqueror in kde3 have that in kubuntu? | 19:43 |
| smarter | yes (: | 19:43 |
| T0m4rn0ld | not the kde4 one tho | 19:43 |
| T0m4rn0ld | i tried the newest beta | 19:43 |
| smarter | yes, konq3 | 19:44 |
| NamShub | konq4 got 2 buttons | 19:44 |
| smarter | you might want to look at debian/patches/kubuntu_84_konqueror_stop_reload_button.diff in the kdebase package sources | 19:45 |
| smarter | shouldn't be too hard to port to kde4 | 19:45 |
| NamShub | T0m4rn0ld: if you want to help with a greasemonkey-like extensions though, you are more than welcome to look at svn playground/utils/khtml_userscript | 19:46 |
| NamShub | its at proof-of-concept stage right now | 19:47 |
| NamShub | it works, but theres no security models and its not GM-compatible | 19:47 |
| Tonio_ | Nightrose: osd in konversation is not from me :) | 19:47 |
| T0m4rn0ld | NamShub: cool | 19:48 |
| T0m4rn0ld | GM is very powerfull | 19:48 |
| NamShub | well it is GM-compatible, but theres no re-implementation of the various GM_* functions, and theres no cross-site XHR support | 19:48 |
| NamShub | basically, it means it only executes js script right now :P\ | 19:49 |
| T0m4rn0ld | that is a start :) | 19:49 |
| T0m4rn0ld | but my problem seems to be that i am not really a C++ and QT coder .. is there a good indepth tutorial/book for QT/KDE4 somewhere | 19:51 |
| T0m4rn0ld | i dont wanna annoy people in IRC all day :P | 19:51 |
| T0m4rn0ld | i can code in C | 19:51 |
| smarter | T0m4rn0ld: Qt: http://www.amazon.com/Programming-Prentice-Source-Software-Development/dp/0132354160/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1206820398&sr=8-1 | 19:53 |
| smarter | with introduction to C++ to C or Java coders | 19:53 |
| Tonio_ | ho you mean for konversation in kde4 ? then yes, that's me :) | 19:55 |
| smarter | konversation has been ported to kde4? | 19:56 |
| T0m4rn0ld | smarter: thank you | 19:56 |
| allee | Tonio_: hi, in my ppa there digikam 0.9.2-2ubuntu1(~ppa1) without --enable-debug=full. Would be nice if it find it's way into hardy. | 20:03 |
| Tonio_ | allee: oki :) | 20:04 |
| Tonio_ | allee: will do taht tomorrow | 20:04 |
| allee | Tonio_: thx | 20:05 |
| paddy-2k | hi is there a bug in the 8.04 kde4 remix alternative cd installer? | 21:04 |
| jussi01 | paddy-2k: probably lots of them... what exactly are you talking about? | 21:06 |
| paddy-2k | lol. i just tried to install it in Virtualbox and has been sitting on 34% of installing the base system for the past 15 mins | 21:07 |
| paddy-2k | where could I submit a bug? is it launch pad? | 21:10 |
| jussi01 | !bug | 21:13 |
| ubotu | If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu - Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots | 21:13 |
| ryanakca | jpatrick: ping, would you be interested in testing links on the testsite? | 21:26 |
| jpatrick | ryanakca: hey | 21:26 |
| jpatrick | ryanakca: same place? | 21:27 |
| ryanakca | Yep | 21:27 |
| jpatrick | pm? | 21:27 |
| jpatrick | apachelogger: I see you went to the Debian channel in the end | 21:41 |
| apachelogger | yeah, just to keep track how often I get named a foulish ubuntu dude :P | 21:41 |
| jpatrick | nixternal: 49? I'm going at about 23... | 21:42 |
| jpatrick | apachelogger: "ubuntu = debian + more bugs" to them | 21:43 |
| apachelogger | I really like a good attitude | 21:43 |
| apachelogger | talking about that | 21:43 |
| apachelogger | kubuntu = amarok + more bugs | 21:43 |
| apachelogger | I am still not certain I repaired all issues caused by the luks patch | 21:44 |
| _StefanS_ | evenig | 21:51 |
| _StefanS_ | oh my gt5 is just freaking amazing.. | 21:51 |
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| jpatrick | interesting quit message.. | 22:18 |
| jpatrick | and hi robotgeek | 22:19 |
| robotgeek | hey jpatrick | 22:19 |
| robotgeek | jpatrick: long time :) | 22:19 |
| jpatrick | robotgeek: I was thinking the same thing :) | 22:20 |
| robotgeek | i need to get on the kde4 development bandwagon :) | 22:21 |
| * robotgeek needs to quit being so lazy! | 22:21 | |
| Nightrose | Tonio_: ;-) yea I ment the Konversation OSD in KDE 4 | 23:14 |
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