[00:40] nixternal: ping, how did you get icecc working? I have all the required ports open on the daemon and scheduler hosts, but the scheduler only recognizes the daemon on localhost, and not on the 2nd daemon host... [01:16] ryanakca: I just installed icecc on all of my machines...did nothing else really [01:29] nixternal: hmm... odd. ok, thanks. [01:29] * ryanakca guesses it's his firewall... === coreymon77 is now known as coreymon === coreymon is now known as coreymon_ === coreymon_ is now known as coreymon77 === kiefer_ is now known as kiefer08 === jpetso is now known as jpetso_away === jpetso_away is now known as jpetso [02:56] awen_: Thanks === jpetso is now known as jpetso_away [03:09] Do you have a good test case that demonstrates the bug that I can use to check if I've fixed it andresj? [03:10] We're discussing bug 208556 [03:10] Launchpad bug 208556 in qt4-x11 "qdbuscpp2xml uses moc-qt3 instead of moc-qt4" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/208556 [03:10] ScottK2: I have my own application, but I think that to be sure I would use the one in http://lists.debian.org/debian-qt-kde/2007/03/msg00143.html [03:10] * ScottK2 looks [03:11] instead of that, qdbuscpp2xml returns \n\n [03:11] (with the \n replaced with newlines) [03:12] Right. [03:13] nixternal: You around? [03:14] never mind... qdbuscpp2xml does that one correctly. [03:14] let me find another test case. [03:15] OK. [03:24] mm... apparently the only reason why it didn't work is because I was using KUrl as the type of an argument of a slot. [03:25] So does that make it a lower priority in your opinion then? [03:25] i think that then, maybe that's not the problem... because KUrl has existed since KDE 3... [03:25] might be that im just using the wrong type. [03:27] I'll ask about that in #kde and #kde-devel [03:28] Good luck. [03:28] :D thanks for your help, though :D [04:09] ScottK2: what's up? [04:10] nixternal: I was looking for someone who could help andresj out, but he got headed in the right direction. What do you think about the patch discussed in http://lists.debian.org/debian-qt-kde/2007/03/msg00143.html [04:11] * nixternal looks [04:12] that is for Qt 4.2 [04:13] has it been addressed upstream at all? [04:13] ie. the 4.3 release that we have or the 4.4 release coming up soon [04:13] Dunno. [04:14] I'm pretty qt stupid, which is why I screamed for help. [04:14] by the way, I think the problem _was_ that I used KUrl instead of QString in my interface, so while I think that using moc-qt3 instead of moc-qt4 might still cause problems, its not as grave as I thought (it works good in most cases I have tried) [04:15] Yes, but if it's a reasonable fix and it helps, we should see about doing it. [04:15] I just ran his test with 4.3 and it produces exactly what he pasted in the report [04:16] Sounds like it's valid then. [04:16] Does the fix look right to you? [04:17] oh man, that was fixed last year [04:17] the report isn't valid anymore, the test.cpp works as it should [04:18] and I don't have /usr/share/qt4/bin prefixed in PATH either [04:18] Ah. OK. [04:19] Mark it fix released then please. [04:19] nixternal: Thanks for looking at it. [04:19] who should mark it as fixed? [04:19] I don't care. [04:20] * ScottK2 was talking to nixternal, but whoever. [04:20] what am I supposed to mark as fixed? [04:20] bug 208556 [04:20] Launchpad bug 208556 in qt4-x11 "qdbuscpp2xml uses moc-qt3 instead of moc-qt4" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/208556 [04:20] hrmm [04:20] * ScottK2 digs back into kde-guidance. [04:21] It may be crusty, but at least it's python. [04:21] lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 21 2006-12-16 19:09 /usr/bin/moc -> /etc/alternatives/moc [04:21] ie. moc is an /etc/alternative [04:21] * ScottK2 can do Python. [04:21] Ah. [04:21] so it is going to use whichever version of qt4 is active [04:21] lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 16 2008-02-28 23:02 /etc/alternatives/moc -> /usr/bin/moc-qt3 [04:22] ooh, it is set to moc-qt3 [04:22] interesting [04:22] Have fun. [04:22] damn you! [04:23] I guess that would be a packaging bug? [04:23] it isn't a qt bug [04:27] ScottK2: easy fix, just add and update-alternatives line to the qt4-dev-tools.postinst [04:27] or libqt4-dev.postinst rather [04:28] hrmm, actually it is already there [04:28] priority level is 40, to low [04:29] and even running the test with moc-qt4 it still works [04:34] Riddell: when you wake up and get around, check out bug #208556 - it is a valid bug I guess because libqt4-dev.postinst isn't installing at a priority high enough to become the default...though i am not sure how you want to handle this...bug/no-bug [04:34] Launchpad bug 208556 in qt4-x11 "qdbuscpp2xml uses moc-qt3 instead of moc-qt4" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/208556 [04:34] I guess we could temporarily patch it to do /moc-qt4 instead of relying on the postinst for alternatives priority [04:35] actually, that probably makes the most sense [04:35] ScottK2: ^^ [04:35] as qdbuscpp2xml is a qt4 only app [04:36] Yep. that makes sense. [04:37] I will leave that up to Riddell though, Qt4 is his baby [04:37] actually [04:38] patches/05_append_qt4_target.diff:+QMAKE_MOC = \$\$QT_BUILD_TREE/bin/moc-qt4 [04:38] it is already patched [04:38] * nixternal runs strace [04:38] * ScottK2 goes to bed. [04:38] Good night. [04:38] g'nite [04:42] andresj: ahh, you are here [04:43] andresj: that has been fixed for ever a year, there is a patch in the package called 03_launch_moc-qt4.diff that s/\/moc/\/moc-qt4 [04:43] ahh, you figured out the problem already :) [04:44] ScottK2: FYI, that patch has been in the Qt4 package since the beginning of June 2007. [04:46] :D but it's not applied to the ubuntu package yet... [04:47] I did apt-src install qt4-x11, and checked the source code for that particular file, and it still says "/moc" instead of "/moc-qt4" [04:48] oh never mind... the patches are not applied yet... :( now is when its showed that I know nothing about Debian packaging :D [04:48] lol [04:48] you will learn young jedi :) [04:48] xD [04:48] the patches get applied during the build process [04:49] I see. [04:55] man, I was confused for the first 10 minutes of looking at that bug [04:55] I followed the test.cpp from the debian report, and it worked as it should [04:56] well I wrote a comment explaining my ignorance in the bug page :D [04:57] good that you caught it though..I just never realized you were the same person at first who filed the bug until I went to your wiki page :) [04:58] hahaha, well your nickname has nothing to do with your name either (as far as I can tell :D) [05:04] not yet it doesn't...if they let me change my name legally then I will be good :) === andresj__ is now known as andresj === hunger_t is now known as hunger [09:15] AUTOMAGIC KERNEL LIST in (K)ubuntu GRUB's config is necessary for what? === \sh_away is now known as \sh [10:16] Artemis_Fowl: updating the kernel [10:17] jpatrick: could you explain some more? are they absolutely necessary? [10:18] Artemis_Fowl: yes, when you install a new kernel, it automagically places and removes the necessary entries from the list [10:18] jpatrick: and what happens if those lines are deleted? won't the kernels update? [10:19] Artemis_Fowl: hmm, good question [10:22] Artemis_Fowl: it probably goes about crying and trying to restore them [10:23] jpatrick: so if you delete them, is this a big problem or of minor importance? [10:24] Artemis_Fowl: don't think it's recommended.. [10:25] jpatrick:hmm [10:26] Artemis_Fowl: it means when you install a new kernel it won't automatically be used [10:27] Artemis_Fowl: are you just wondering what it is for or are you trying to do something specific with kernels? [10:28] one min [10:30] seaLne: actually because of this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kgrubeditor/+bug/196756 [10:30] seaLne: I develop KGRUBEditor [10:30] Launchpad bug 196756 in kgrubeditor "kgrubeditor doesn't recognize AUTOMAGIC KERNEL LIST entries" [Undecided,Confirmed] [10:34] ah, well for debian based distributions i'd say it was very important not to break the AUTOMAGIC section [10:35] seaLne: actually the AUTOMAGIC section is a GRUB misuse [10:35] as most people expect it to work [10:35] Artemis_Fowl: quite possibly [10:36] but its the way kernels have been handled in debian for a long time [10:36] and moreover a pain in the neck for developers :) [10:37] when a debian kernel is installed it looks for the AUTOMAGIC section so it can add the new kernel details in the correct place [10:40] seaLne: as I can see the AUTOMAGIC sections is something like this: [10:40] ### BEGIN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST [10:40] ## some comments [10:40] ## some more comments [10:40] # an option [10:40] [10:41] ## some comments [10:41] ## etc etc etc [10:41] ## ## End Default Options ## [10:41] [10:41] title Debian [10:41] kernal dummy_kernel [10:41] [10:41] title and so on [10:42] ### END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST [10:42] right? [10:42] dude, pastebin? [10:42] yep [10:48] seaLne: does any other distro 'misuse' GRUB's comments in a similar manner from your experience? [10:49] seaLne: for Debian-based I think I can patch this [10:51] i haven't really used any non debian based distros in years [10:51] debian/rules [10:51] i think opensuse has a similar system. i'll check it out [11:00] * jpatrick says "yay" [11:00] alpine just decided to delete all my @kubuntu mail === mendred_ is now known as mendred [11:01] <\sh> whatever alpine is ;) [11:02] freely licensed version of pine [11:03] good thing you have backups then :) [11:03] err, no, imap [11:04] <\sh> jpatrick: this is really bad then :) [11:04] kubuntu mail can't be that important anyway :) [11:04] \sh: I suppose so, been meaning to clear it all out anyway [11:05] fdoving: or is all archived [11:06] yep. [11:06] even the large quantities of spam to @kubuntu ? :) [11:07] canonical must set up an anti-spam filter [11:08] thats up to the user imho [11:08] * \sh just got one or two spam mails in the last month from @ubuntu mail [11:09] i get spam to the 4 addresses on my gpg key usually one after the other in the order on the key :-/ [11:09] * Hobbsee gets lots of spam from @ubuntu.com [11:09] i get alot too. [11:09] * jpatrick gets about 7 daily [11:09] * \sh never used the @ubuntu.com mail address in public...afaik.. [11:09] not sure which address, but it comes from fiordland.ubuntu.com usually. [11:10] I blame all the package list [11:10] -s* [11:10] i blame the spammers [11:11] <\sh> well, more bad is when they send out spam with your personal email address as sender...and no one is checking the SPF records :( so I get many "return to sender" mails from anyone else... [11:12] <\sh> the internet is broken by design, imho ;) [11:12] no doubt about it. [11:13] wasn't designed to do what it currently is doing. [11:13] <\sh> well, it was designed to resists an a-bomb...but I think humans are much worse then the a-bomb [11:14] yeah as usual the users are the problem [11:15] <\sh> yeah osi layer 8 bug [11:15] <\sh> the problem is sitting in front of the keyboard and screen [11:15] <\sh> it's one bug we will never solve [11:25] awen_: hey, how did the bash thing go? [11:26] jpatrick: the conclusion was, that it wasn't removed by accident... but they considered to include the bash_completion package on the cd, but without ubuntu-standard depending on it [11:27] jpatrick: so i would suppose that we should do the same on the kubuntu cd's ? [11:27] awen_: probably /me still thinks zsh > * [11:28] i think i'm getting old. i start hating changes, policykit, apparmor, bash_completion etc. don't like them. [11:28] <\sh> awen_: hmmm? "they" removed bash_completion from the -standard seed? [11:28] jpatrick: and zsh has the equivalent of bash_completion? [11:28] awen_: built-in and maintained by upstream [11:29] \sh: yes... it had been unmaintained upstream for some time, that was why [11:29] awen_: did you try out the .zshrc I gave? [11:29] <\sh> hmm...so why we don't compile our own stuff for bash? I mean, not overbloated but good completion defaults [11:30] jpatrick: no not yet... i'm just going to boot up my virtual machine and test zsh [11:30] awen_: cool [11:31] \sh: there was some talk about, that someone was going to ressurrect it in some way (nothing really clear) [11:32] \sh: i was mostly pointed at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/03/26/%23ubuntu-devel.html <--- look at 14:24 and forward === evalles is now known as effie_jayx [11:34] <\sh> awen_: ah yes..I remember [11:36] the il8n is a little to complete... all the languages is also written in the default locale when you want to change it; so changing to a language that you don't know and it is getting a bit hard changing back [11:46] jpatrick: zsh gives me a lot of warnings regarding the .zshrc when starting, like "command not found ^M" [11:46] awen_: can you pastebin them? [11:49] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/61451/ [11:49] jpatrick: there ^^ [11:49] ... [11:50] those should be the key bindings for all the functions [11:50] awen_: remove the ^M's then, and don't use notepad/etc to edit them [11:50] awen_: do you have a prompt at least? [11:51] Tonio_: yay for working OSD in Konversation :) thx a lot [11:51] awen_: if so try: apt- and tell me what you think [11:51] jpatrick: yes... nothing written that indicates that it is a prompt, but it works [11:51] q. before i found a channel with the ubuntu people which take care about all the server/mirror to store the .deb of ubuntu. i dont remember the name tho... anybody got suggestion? [11:52] zorglu_: #ubuntu-motu? [11:52] jpatrick: i think it needs to read the .zshrc correctly... things jump around on the screen [11:53] Hobbsee: I can't find them... they are empty lines, and deleting/restoring the empty lines in nano doesn't help [11:53] awen_: hmm [11:54] jpatrick: well no, it was more about the storage, not that much the building of the .deb :) but yep #ubuntu-motu may know, thanks :) [11:54] awen_: what editor are you looking in? [11:54] Hobbsee: nano atm [11:54] ahh [11:58] "wget http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/61424/plain/" as .zshrc and it still complains [11:58] * awen_ is back in 20 minutes [11:59] awen_: copy and paste from Konqueror, might be a pastebin thing.. [12:00] * Hobbsee looks at it for interesting bits [12:00] # Follow GNU LS_COLORS for completion menus [12:00] what's that do? [12:00] do bad symlinks show up as red with that? [12:00] Hobbsee: makes ls pretty [12:00] jpatrick: like what? [12:01] Hobbsee: @ for links, and stuff like "music/" for folders [12:02] Hobbsee: just save as .zshrc and see ;) [12:02] ls -F does the @ and / things [12:02] zstyle ':completion:*' list-colors "${(s.:.)LS_COLORS}" add colors to the zsh completion [12:03] jpatrick: do you know how to force zsh to complete some files? [12:04] it doesn't want to complete .pro files(qmake project) [12:04] smarter: hmm, howso? [12:05] ...zcalc...*drool* [12:07] Hobbsee: things I like most are lines 222 to 239 [12:07] jpatrick: when I do touch a.pro && ls a[tab] I don't see the .pro file [12:07] enolines [12:07] smarter: because the file doesn't exist to it yet probably.. [12:07] nevermind I found why ;) [12:08] *grin* [12:08] tetris! [12:08] I had that in my config file: fignore=(.o .c~ .pro) [12:11] * Hobbsee drools [12:11] insert files looks nice, too! [12:11] bah. mine already does that. [12:12] prediction looks nice, though [12:13] it's so good it's evil [12:15] too bad if some command came up that i didn't want though :P [12:17] jpatrick: that worked better :) ... seems the plain mode is broken [12:18] awen_: that explains it :) [12:18] QTCurve is awesome.... [12:18] jpatrick: ah yes, they look neat [12:18] hardy is awesome for that matter [12:19] Hobbsee: :) [12:20] jpatrick: now i just need to know how to change the default shell ;) [12:20] awen_: chsh [12:20] awen_: chsh [12:21] ahh... almost to easy, thanks :) [12:21] is it my turn? awen_ chsh [12:21] awen_: you just do: chsh -s /usr/bin/zsh [12:22] * Hobbsee grumbles [12:22] stuff like 'ls' doesn't work now. [12:22] unless i use 'ls [12:22] ... [12:23] alias ls="ls -F --color=always" [12:24] * awen_ thinks it still misses some very important functions regarding ssh/scp [12:25] awen_: yeah, you may want to remove the line with _myhosts=( ${${${${(f)"$(<$HOME/.ssh/known_hosts)"}:#[0-9]*}%%\ *}%%,*} ) and the one below it [12:28] jpatrick: not better... it doesn't seem to pick up hosts from ssh_config :( [12:29] hmm, never used that before.. [12:29] you have tried gnome-do, ahven't you? [12:30] or katapult, if it supports it [12:30] jpatrick: it's nice... especially if you have different usernames, you want it to pick up the alias/hostnames in ssh_config [12:30] * jpatrick goes off for a bit... hardy upgrade [12:31] awen_: will check it out later [12:31] jpatrick: okay... but in general, nice :) [12:32] * awen_ wonders who Hobbsee was questioning... [12:32] * jpatrick thinks... you :) [12:32] whoever. [12:32] * awen_ haven't tried gnome-do [12:34] Hobbsee: I'm jealous of that... but haven't tried it yet myself... is it in Gutsy? [12:34] * Jucato was hoping Katapult would have grown by now... [12:34] Jucato: i've got a backport of it, but i think it's old === \sh is now known as \sh_away [12:35] Hobbsee: lol!! the printer config system tray behaves a lot like Windows system tray notifications :) [12:35] or is that generally true of GNOME? [12:35] * Hobbsee hasn't noticed it [12:35] * Hobbsee doesnt' have such a thing - might have disabled it [12:35] it just popped first to tell me that the printer is ready to be used, then 2nd to tell me that I'm low on ink [12:36] Jucato: heh [12:36] with a yellow balloon/popup with a close button at the upper right corner :) [12:36] Jucato: them is what you call "features" :P [12:36] oh yeah [12:36] Jucato: people complained about how that worked. [12:37] Jucato: so they added the bubble [12:37] heh but the bubble (with the close button) is soooo XP! :) [12:37] that was the point [12:37] (sorry, first time GNOME user in a long time :P) [12:37] people were thinking that the printers hadn't been recognised, as they hadn't been told about it. [12:38] Hobbsee: the notification thing is not what I'm having smiling about :) [12:38] * nosrednaekim thinks of Suse which has a really annoying "First time hardware" wizard.... [12:38] it's just that it has that close button at the corner :D [12:39] and the bubble is yellow and the button is almost red... :) [12:39] anyway, I'm looking forward to Kubuntu's own printer config :D [12:39] * Jucato is not touching Hardy until the release. wants to be surprised :D [12:40] uhhh oh.....I better get crackin then ^_^ [12:40] heh I'm not the one you should be worrying about :P [12:41] * nosrednaekim thinks of the vampire users and agrees [12:45] hm.. I just noticed that their Add/Remove Programs doesn't ask for the password until it's time to install... like KPackage... [12:47] packageKit... [12:48] :P [12:48] soon [12:48] whooops... I mean "PolicyKit" [12:48] thats what allows them to do that [12:48] :P [12:49] soon too :) [12:51] yep [12:53] ha.... so I get this "crappy" intel celeron laptop and it ends up being faster than my X2 one [12:55] Hmm i ported asoundconf-gtk to qt4. How do i get it out to the real world? [12:57] xRaich[o]2x: awesome... probably make a launchpad project for ir [12:58] nosrednaekim: There is one for asoundconf-ui now i want to make a qt4 branch [12:58] or qt-apps.org. but LP has more goodies [12:59] Looks a bit confused at the addbranch form [13:02] xRaich[o]2x: did you rewrite any of the backend? [13:02] becuase if so, you probably don't want to branch it [13:02] Nope it's just a new frontend [13:03] xRaich[o]2x: in that case, yeah, branch it. Its really simple [13:03] * xRaich[o]2x wants to make a branch asoundconf-qt4 [13:04] ok i don't really get the stuff with the ssh key [13:04] branch is created [13:06] now you can just push to that branch, or you can switch your local copy to using that branch. let me look up the command for that [13:06] nosrednaekim: i read that i need to register an ssh key first. how do i do that? [13:07] and how do i create that key [13:07] * xRaich[o]2x feels stupid ^^ [13:07] !ssh [13:07] SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ [13:07] hrm... I think there is a tutorial up on Launchpad [13:07] xRaich[o]2x, i also felt stupid about this, i didnt get 5-bugs-a-day running in osx [13:08] TheInfinity: Never really had a need to do this before ^^ [13:08] and linux does not run well native, so i often reinstall it for tests -> moep. [13:12] ok got an ssh key ^^ [13:13] xRaich[o]2x: edit your launchpad profile and add it [13:13] nosrednaekim: been there done that ;) === \sh_away is now known as \sh [13:16] nosrednaekim: is there a structure i need to have inside that branch? [13:16] or is it enough to just put the files into it? [13:16] xRaich[o]2x: structure? no, but i'dkeep it as close to trunk as possible [13:17] woah... Hardy doesn't use ksplash? [13:20] nosrednaekim: mine does (kde3) ... and iirc my vm with a new beta-install did too [13:21] nosrednaekim: whoops. just found out that someone already ported it. Well, i consider it an excercise in python ^^ [13:21] * awen_ didn't rrc [13:22] nosrednaekim: yes seems that ksplash has been disabled in hardy [13:23] xRaich[o]2x: :) [13:23] at least i finally learned how to handle regex ^^ [13:48] Riddell: ping [13:51] nixternal: ping, have you managed to use icecc with kdesvn-build yet? [13:52] methinks he'll have to write some documentation for it once he gets it figured out... [13:53] anyone is the new menu system in KDE4 still called Kmenu or is it actually called plasma now ? [13:53] it's kickoff [13:53] thanks just doing updates to the testing page :) [13:59] hmm something is screwed here - when right clicking on a file in dolphin it opens the file and the menu - can someone reproduce this? (hardy and kde 4) [14:45] jpatrick: Bug #208801 [14:45] Launchpad bug 208801 in kdebase "encrypted volumes aren't decrypted if the password is a space" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/208801 [14:46] presumably some lack of escaping [15:06] * seaLne really needs to get a usb hub so he dosen't have to keep swapping between pendrives [15:16] Riddell: ping [15:29] seaLne: hmmm [15:32] nixternal: What'd you conclude about the but we were discussing last night? [15:32] jpatrick: i'll have a look at it while i'm trying to get raw devices working [15:34] seaLne: really must get to grips with c++/qt this year [15:34] where did the luks stuff come from? [15:39] seaLne: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=113629 [15:39] KDE bug 113629 in media "Complete LUKS support (especially mounting)" [Wishlist,New] [15:40] ScottK2: our Qt4 is fixed...he made a booboo in the code that caused the problem [15:44] seaLne: the author is on LP, I'll subscribe him to the bug [15:44] nixternal: Cool. Thanks. [15:49] jpatrick: so is it currently an old version of the patch in kubuntu? [15:49] seaLne: no, the update was uploaded [15:49] k [15:50] bug #186841 [15:50] Launchpad bug 186841 in kdebase "[hardy] Please merge latest version of kio media LUKS support" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/186841 [16:10] kdelibs for KDE4 are appropriately packaged? [16:10] I think I miss some header files [16:14] I indeed miss some files..... [16:14] Hi! [16:14] Can anybody please help me understand my kio_http problem? [16:15] nothing relying on HTTP in KDE works anymore: Konqueror, Kopete (for the MSN protocol but not AIM/ICQ/GTalk at least), KWeather, etc [16:15] and it does so since an upgrade yesterday [16:16] I'm running Kubuntu 8, but I upgraded to 8 because I had exactly the same problem in 7 [16:16] it worked for a few days, and yesterday i noticed an upgrade for KDE packages, and now it doesnt work anymore [16:17] Kryczek: It's not a global problem as I've been using Konqueror today without issue on a fully updated Hardy system. [16:18] Kryczek: Try creating a new user and see if it has the same problem. Support is in #kubuntu or #ubuntu+1. [16:19] ScottK2: i'm in them already ;/ [16:20] but I thought developers would know best how to understand such a problem [16:20] OK. Well there are developers in those channels too. [16:20] I gave you a suggestion, but I don't think you're facing a development related issue. [16:21] i know, i'm a developer myself [16:21] but i was right to come ask here: it works with another user indeed :D [16:25] Kryczek: maybe you have something wrong in your ~/.kde [16:25] i was just looking at my .kde/share/config/kio_httprc [16:26] and the only difference was lines about cache settings missing in my ~/.kde whereas present in the other user's ~/.kde [16:26] so I unchecked "use cache" in Konqueror's Settings panel [16:26] curiously it added those lines in the kio_httprc [16:26] and now it works o_O [16:27] ScottK2: smarter: thanks a lot :) [16:28] Kryczek: if it's a reproducible issue, consider reporting the bug [16:29] sure.. but do i need to create an account on launchpad again? i always forget the password :( [16:30] launchpad can mail you your password if you forgot it iirc [16:55] how do i tell kded stuff via dcop? [16:55] what do you want to tell it? [16:55] dcop kded [tab] [16:55] or use kdcop to browse [16:55] ta [16:56] hmm ERROR: Couldn't attach to DCOP server! === kewark is now known as krawek [16:57] it is kde3, right? [16:57] yeah, hmm stupid ssh [16:58] ah, then you need to fix the environment. [16:59] seaLne: try `export DISPLAY=:0.0` or something [17:00] Is it okay to delete the build dir ( I compiled KDE4 from trunk) ? [17:03] nareshov: yes, if you don' [17:03] t plan to recompile it soon it's safe after you've ran 'make install' [17:04] seezer: DCOPSERVER is also needed iirc. [17:04] ok [17:06] fdoving: i only correct the display - worked for years :) but perhaps that differs from setup to setup. [17:07] you won't get access to the correct DCOP server that way. [17:08] if multiple dcop servers are running? [17:09] in general that worked for me (connecting to 'desktops') running one X11 and one single KDE session [17:13] bah this is confusing having 3 different pendrives plugged in [17:15] smarter: reported as https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdelibs/+bug/208872 :) [17:16] Launchpad bug 208872 in kdelibs "Missing lines in kio_httprc break all HTTP support in KDE" [Undecided,New] [17:17] bbl. [17:45] aaah... 55.4% CPU for xorg... hmm... [18:32] is mounting things via konq/d3lphin done via hal? [18:36] Did we want a "Press room" view like u.c or did we want an "Archive" / posts per month (like on a blog) item? [19:11] hellos, i need some help i guess .. i really want to extend konqueror but im a total newb and i think i will need a bit of help. i compiled kde4 from svn and it works. but understanding the konqueror code seems quite hard .. what should i read or do? [19:12] you might be better asking in #kde-devel [19:13] ok [19:13] thank you [19:14] "extend konqueror"? [19:27] yes, like firefox plugins [19:28] mostly web stuff [19:32] * smarter would like a "full fullscreen"(firefox extension)-like for Konqueror (: [19:32] what do you want to do exactly? [19:33] fullscreen without buttons tabs, scrollbars or anything, very useful on small devices [19:34] smarter: it works here [19:34] ctrl+m, then F11 [19:35] NamShub: you still have the buttons, the tabs and and the scrollbars [19:36] thats right i still see the scrollbar [19:36] sorry [19:41] smarter: you can atleast hide the statusbar with ViewT0_ShowStatusBar=false in the profile-rc. [19:41] i just wanna port some FF extentions i am used to [19:41] not sure how one can hide the scrollbar. [19:41] like "How´d I get here" or "Reload/Stop" [19:42] fdoving: thanks for the tip [19:42] T0m4rn0ld: Reload/Stop? [19:43] Reload and Stop in one button [19:43] like Safari [19:43] Konqueror in Kubuntu already do it [19:43] doesn't konqueror in kde3 have that in kubuntu? [19:43] yes (: [19:43] not the kde4 one tho [19:43] i tried the newest beta [19:44] yes, konq3 [19:44] konq4 got 2 buttons [19:45] you might want to look at debian/patches/kubuntu_84_konqueror_stop_reload_button.diff in the kdebase package sources [19:45] shouldn't be too hard to port to kde4 [19:46] T0m4rn0ld: if you want to help with a greasemonkey-like extensions though, you are more than welcome to look at svn playground/utils/khtml_userscript [19:47] its at proof-of-concept stage right now [19:47] it works, but theres no security models and its not GM-compatible [19:47] Nightrose: osd in konversation is not from me :) [19:48] NamShub: cool [19:48] GM is very powerfull [19:48] well it is GM-compatible, but theres no re-implementation of the various GM_* functions, and theres no cross-site XHR support [19:49] basically, it means it only executes js script right now :P\ [19:49] that is a start :) [19:51] but my problem seems to be that i am not really a C++ and QT coder .. is there a good indepth tutorial/book for QT/KDE4 somewhere [19:51] i dont wanna annoy people in IRC all day :P [19:51] i can code in C [19:53] T0m4rn0ld: Qt: http://www.amazon.com/Programming-Prentice-Source-Software-Development/dp/0132354160/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1206820398&sr=8-1 [19:53] with introduction to C++ to C or Java coders [19:55] ho you mean for konversation in kde4 ? then yes, that's me :) [19:56] konversation has been ported to kde4? [19:56] smarter: thank you [20:03] Tonio_: hi, in my ppa there digikam 0.9.2-2ubuntu1(~ppa1) without --enable-debug=full. Would be nice if it find it's way into hardy. [20:04] allee: oki :) [20:04] allee: will do taht tomorrow [20:05] Tonio_: thx [21:04] hi is there a bug in the 8.04 kde4 remix alternative cd installer? [21:06] paddy-2k: probably lots of them... what exactly are you talking about? [21:07] lol. i just tried to install it in Virtualbox and has been sitting on 34% of installing the base system for the past 15 mins [21:10] where could I submit a bug? is it launch pad? [21:13] !bug [21:13] If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu - Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots [21:26] jpatrick: ping, would you be interested in testing links on the testsite? [21:26] ryanakca: hey [21:27] ryanakca: same place? [21:27] Yep [21:27] pm? [21:41] apachelogger: I see you went to the Debian channel in the end [21:41] yeah, just to keep track how often I get named a foulish ubuntu dude :P [21:42] nixternal: 49? I'm going at about 23... [21:43] apachelogger: "ubuntu = debian + more bugs" to them [21:43] I really like a good attitude [21:43] talking about that [21:43] kubuntu = amarok + more bugs [21:44] I am still not certain I repaired all issues caused by the luks patch [21:51] <_StefanS_> evenig [21:51] <_StefanS_> oh my gt5 is just freaking amazing.. === \sh is now known as \sh_away === ugap is now known as uga [22:18] interesting quit message.. [22:19] and hi robotgeek [22:19] hey jpatrick [22:19] jpatrick: long time :) [22:20] robotgeek: I was thinking the same thing :) [22:21] i need to get on the kde4 development bandwagon :) [22:21] * robotgeek needs to quit being so lazy! [23:14] Tonio_: ;-) yea I ment the Konversation OSD in KDE 4