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nixternalthe rest seemed to have nuked fine00:00
* sistpoty looks00:00
sistpotynixternal: no idea actually, but I removed it manually from the db00:02
nixternalthanks00:07
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TomJaeger.orig.tar.gz is supposed to be the original tarball from upstream, right?00:19
sistpotyTomJaeger: yes00:19
TomJaegerwhy is this not the case for wacom-tools?00:19
* sistpoty looks00:20
sistpotyTomJaeger: not too sure, I guess for convencience (debian/README.Debian makes me think that). Generally, this should be avoided w.o. a very good reason00:22
TomJaegerokay, I guess I'll fix that too, while I'm at it00:24
james_wTomJaeger: at what?00:25
sistpotyTomJaeger: oh, are you considering to update wacom-tools?00:25
TomJaegernobody else is doing it, are they?00:25
sistpotyTomJaeger: the please head the rule of thumg: do minimal changes to the current package (unless you maintain it)00:26
sistpotythen00:26
sistpotyand rule of thumb... bah, I'm no typing expert today00:26
james_wit's in main isn't it?00:27
TomJaegerbug #19595300:28
ubotuLaunchpad bug 195953 in wacom-tools "Tablet input resolution tied to display resolution" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/19595300:28
TomJaegerthis is the reason00:28
james_wTomJaeger: go for it00:29
james_wTomJaeger: so your update is a new upstream version?00:30
TomJaegeryeah, but it needs some fixes to even compile00:30
aquoi am trying to create my own meta-packages ...00:30
sistpotyTomJaeger: still, try to do minimal changes in packaging, I gues the release team will appreciate this00:30
aquowith debuild i get the message00:30
aquobad-distribution-in-changes-file gutsy00:30
aquoi have gutsy in my changelog, is this wrong?00:31
james_waquo: do you have "ubuntu" in the version number?00:31
sistpotyaquo: last entry in debian/changelog: change "gutsy" to "hardy"00:31
TomJaegersistpoty, I'm still moving that autoconf-garbage out of the diff00:31
james_waquo: are you compiling for gutsy?00:31
aquojames_w: no, i think i will put ppa in00:31
aquojames_w: yes00:31
aquojames_w: i dont have ubuntu in the version number00:32
aquosistpoty: but i don't want to make the metapackage for hardy, i want i to be for gutsy.00:33
sistpotyaquo: are you sure? (once hardy gets out, I doubt that too many gutsy systems will remain)... but if so, ignore the warning ;)00:33
aquosistpoty: it is not a warning, is is marked E:00:34
james_wI think this is just for personal use isn't it?00:34
sistpotyaquo: by what?00:34
aquoby debuild00:34
aquoE: aquo-packaging_0.1_i386.changes: bad-distribution-in-changes-file gutsy00:34
sistpotyaquo: are you using a debuild from before gutsy?00:34
james_waquo: instead of 0.1-1 have 0.1-0ubuntu100:34
aquono00:35
sistpotyhm...00:35
sistpotyaquo: from debian?00:35
aquono, just from scratch.00:35
james_wI think there's a safety catch added in Ubuntu to stop you uploading packages to Ubuntu with "Debian" version numbers.00:35
aquoit is just an README with some created debian/ directory ...00:35
james_was it -1 etc.00:35
sistpotyaquo: hm... do you have some triggers in debuild that require a clean lintian run?00:35
aquono, but i want to do it the right way ...00:36
aquoif i create a metapackage from scratch, which version number do i need to give?00:36
james_waquo: i suggest 100:36
aquoshould it be 0.1-1?00:36
aquoor is 0.1 ok?00:36
james_wor maybe it has to be 1ubuntu100:37
james_wor 0.1-0ubuntu100:37
james_wor 0.1ubuntu100:37
sistpotyjames_w: right, now I recall some completely and utter stupid changes back then, which derive the distribution from the version number00:37
FlannelIt only gets the ubuntuX wart if its modified from virgin source00:37
sistpotyso it would be 1ubuntu1 (for a metapackage, which I guess should be native)00:38
aquojames_w: i don't want to have it ubuntu in the version, i am just going for ppa00:38
aquoso 1ppa1 ...00:38
Flannelsistpoty: -1ubuntu1  implies theres been one debian modification, and then one ubuntu modification ontop of that00:38
Flannelaquo: The metapackage is for the 0.1 version of the software, right?00:38
james_waquo: I'm trying to tell you that I think it's the fact that you don't have ubuntu in the version number that is giving you the error00:39
Flanneljames_w: I think thats wrong00:39
sistpotyFlannel: it doesn't really matter for a metapackage... either 0ubuntu1 or 1ubuntu1 (as debian probably won't sync that one)00:39
aquoFlannel: i just created a metapackage (just a README-file) f00:39
FlannelNot that I'm an expert, but I would've given it the 0.1 version, and been done with it.00:39
aquofor the dependencys ...00:39
aquothere is no real source ...00:39
sistpoty(oh, and sorry for my wording about the changes... of course I should have written "not so prudent" or s.th. like that)00:39
sistpotyFlannel: to be correct, 0.1 would (iirc) be a nmu of a debian native package in debian00:40
aquoit is a native package, but it is native to ubuntu00:40
Flannelsistpoty: No, it's the 0.1 version from upstream, 0.1-1 would be one debian change00:41
sistpotyFlannel: not for a *native* package00:41
Flannelaquo: http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/ocaml-libs is an example of a metapacakge with no warts, so it's definately not a requirement00:41
sistpotyFlannel: rule of thumb: no dash in the version number -> native package00:42
Flannelsistpoty: Have an example?00:42
Flannelsistpoty: the one I just gave, actually, has no dash00:42
sistpotyFlannel: exactly ;)00:42
Flannelsistpoty: http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=ocaml-libs&searchon=names&suite=testing&section=all00:43
Flannelsistpoty: Its not native00:43
Flanneler, ok, so its the etch version, but still, not native00:43
sistpotyFlannel: why would it be not native?00:43
Flannelsistpoty: What are you defining native as?00:44
sistpotyFlannel: native == "no orig.tar.gz"00:44
FlannelSo, all metapackages are native then, by definition?00:44
aquoubuntu-meta has "ubuntu-meta (1.79) gutsy; urgency=low"00:44
sistpotyFlannel: yes00:44
Flannelsistpoty: I took native to be Ubuntu created.  If a metapackage has a change from debian's, is it -0ubuntu1?00:46
aquo-Xubuntu100:47
TomJaegersistpoty, so I think the reason they repacked it is because the debian/ubuntu package is called wacom-tools and upstream calls it linuxwacom00:47
sistpotyFlannel: there is no real policy... the right thing imho would be to create a non-native package from it, but that also has its problems. So I usually go for Xubuntu1 (being X the debian version)00:47
aquosistpoty: ubuntu-meta is also a "native"-package in my eyes.00:48
sistpotyaquo: yes, it is00:48
aquoso, how do i get rid of the E: aquo-packaging_0.1_i386.changes: bad-distribution-in-changes-file gutsy message?00:48
TomJaegersistpoty, so I'll do the same thing00:49
sistpotyaquo: have you tried adding "ubuntu1" to the (last) version in debian/changelog?00:49
sistpotyTomJaeger: have you checked, if there was actually just a rename of the original version, or if it has been otherwise fiddled with as well?00:50
sistpotybrb00:51
aquosistpoty: i tried ppa100:51
aquoE: aquo-packaging_0.1ppa1_i386.changes: bad-distribution-in-changes-file gutsy00:51
TomJaegersistpoty, everything has been moved to a linuxwacom and there's a strange doc dir00:52
TomJaeger*linuxwacom subdir*00:52
james_waquo: I doubt ppa will make any difference if the issue is what I think it is, as ppas weren't around then.00:53
TomJaegerhow are renames usually handled?00:53
james_wjust in the packaging usually00:54
aquojames_w: ok, with ubuntu1 the Error-Message is gone00:54
james_wit doesn't really matter what's going on in the source package as long as the binary packages come out ok00:54
sistpotyjames_w: *cough*.. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Basic#ChangingOrigTarball (though if it's screwed once, you'll have a hard time for a new upstream version)01:02
sistpoty(that was actually written by me, in case you wonder)01:02
james_wheh, preaching to the choir :-)01:04
sistpoty:)01:04
sistpotysoren: can you attach the usual information for bug #208161 please? thanks!01:09
ubotuLaunchpad bug 208161 in ubuntu-vm-builder "FFe: Update ubuntu-vm-builder" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20816101:09
TomJaegeris there a way to make dpkg-buildpackage show the current directory?01:11
james_wwhat do you mean?01:12
james_wsistpoty: thanks for the ack on the bzr* FFe01:26
sistpotyjames_w: you'll still need to get the ack from main (until mine gets valid)01:27
sistpotyjames_w: as I understand it, there is a tight correlation between bzr and bzr-tools, right?01:27
james_wyeah, they all need to go in together01:28
aquoso, the basic for my metapackage seems to work ...01:28
james_wI realise it's not complete yet, but it's good to have that but done01:28
aquoit is nice to have those metapackages for software installation ;)01:28
sistpotyjames_w: yes, that's what I thought... so basically my opinion is: if one goes into main, the others should follow ;)01:28
aquobut: if i change anything inside my metapackage: do i change the native version or the ubuntu one?01:29
aquoif i use dch -i ubuntu counts up ....01:29
aquohmmm01:29
sistpotyaquo: for native packages, the complete version is the version of the package01:30
aquosistpoty: grmpf01:30
Laneyjames_w: I started a wiki page about the packaging jam: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/PackagingJamJune2008 - feel free to edit :)01:30
james_wthanks Laney01:30
sistpotyaquo: because there's no .orig.tar.gz, every new version is put in a (native) .tar.gz again01:30
aquosistpoty: but i had to introduce the ubuntu1 to get the error message away ...01:31
sistpotyaquo: hence changing either the version number, or the X after ubuntuX will result in the same thing packaging wise01:31
james_wLaney: looks good, do you want to email the list to tell everyone about it.01:31
james_wLaney: also, there's no mention of the possible Bug Jam.01:32
Laneyjames_w: I'll add that. You can email the list if you'd like or I'll try and get round to it tomorrow01:32
sistpotyaquo: the usual thing for debian imported native packages is to increase X though (as in <version>ubuntuX becomes <version>ubuntuX+1)01:32
sistpoty(X+1 as expression *g*)01:33
aquook, but i didn't import anything from debian01:33
james_wLaney: we're in to the time where I won't let myself send email for fear of saying something stupid due to tiredness, so it would be tomorrow anyway01:33
aquoi created a native metapackage for ubuntu01:33
james_wLaney: so if you don't do it tomorrow I can01:33
sistpotyaquo: but since you have an ubuntu version number, just increase X ;()01:33
Laneyjames_w: That's fine01:33
sistpoty-(01:33
aquoif i  mv aquo-packaging-0.1/ aquo-packaging-0.2 and run dch -i inside it, it prompts me with 0.1ubuntu2 ...01:34
sistpotyaquo: yes, that's correct... for native packages, the source package == upstream package01:35
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sistpotyaquo: so usually you don't move the debian dir around, but just add to the existing package01:35
sistpoty(s/usually/always)01:35
aquosistpoty: there is no debian-dir, i just created this for myself from scratch, understand?01:36
aquoit is a native metapackage for ubuntu.01:36
sistpotyaquo: w.o. debian dir, you cannot build a package?01:37
sistpotyaquo: I guess we're misunderstaning here01:37
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aquosistpoty: ok, i have a ubuntu native metapackage directory named aquo-packaging-0.1 with some debian-directory inside it with all the control stuff ...01:39
aquobecause of some freaky error-message i had to intruduce the ubuntu1 version in changelog.01:40
aquoif i run dch -i inside the directory ubuntuX counts up ...01:40
sistpotyaquo: yes, that's correct01:40
aquobut this is a native package, so i want the native version number to count up ...01:40
aquoa can hand-edit this, but why use dch -i if i need to hand-edit stuff?01:41
james_waquo: try dch -U01:42
sistpotyaquo: the native version == what is in debian/changelog01:42
james_wthat should get rid of this "ubuntu" check01:42
james_w(I think)01:42
sistpotyaquo: if you put 1.2ubuntu3 there, the native version is exactly this01:42
aquono it isn't01:43
sistpotyaquo: if you want to increase 1.2ubuntu3 to 1.3ubuntu1, you'll need to hand edit the file01:43
aquoi am the "upstream"-maintainer and the packager in one person.01:43
sistpotyaquo: yes, that's what "native package" is all about ;)01:43
aquook, it seems that nobody seems to understand my question.01:45
sistpotyaquo: at least, I don't... maybe you could rephrase it again=01:46
sistpoty?01:47
james_waquo: dch -v will allow you to specify the version that you want01:47
bddebianHeya gang02:25
protonchrishey bddebian02:25
mneptokbddebian: heya02:25
bddebianHi protonchris, mneptok02:25
sistpotyhi bddebian02:28
bddebianHeya sistpoty02:29
TomJaegeralright, I've updated the wacom-tools package now, who do we get this uploaded?02:37
james_wTomJaeger: you need a core-dev sponsor02:38
TomJaegerhow would I find a core-dev sponsor?02:39
FujitsuHmmm. Something has caused several duplicates of a rather old soundconverter bug to be filed in the past few days. There were no duplicates for 30k bugs, then 7 in just a couple of thousand.02:41
james_wyou should subscribe ubuntu-main-sponsors, but I'm afraid that I don't know the format that they wnat new upstream versions in02:41
james_wTomJaeger: also have you applied for a Freeze exception?02:41
TomJaegerno02:41
james_wI think you'll need to do that. I'm not very familiar with main, sorry02:42
james_wyou can see if anyone is around on #ubuntu-devel02:42
TomJaegerso I'm wrong here?02:42
james_wno, not exactly, but motu only look after universe02:43
james_wthere's more likely to be core-dev on that channel than this02:43
TomJaegeralright, thanks02:44
* sistpoty is off to bed now.. gn802:46
james_wnight sistpoty02:47
sistpotygn8 james_w02:47
james_wTomJaeger: you should probably explain that you are trying to make an upload and you want details on whether you need a freeze exception, and how to get sponsorship of a new upstream version.02:47
cody-somervilleFujitsu, Can we get the logbot back in #xubuntu-devel? I dunno why it disappeared.03:17
ScottK2cody-somerville: You gotta do 5 u-u-s uploads in the next day now that you're MOTU. Congratulations.03:18
Fujitsucody-somerville: I've no idea.03:18
Fujitsucody-somerville: Nothing to do with me.03:18
cody-somerville<g> Thanks ScottK2 :)03:18
cody-somervilleFujitsu, I thought you were the one that maintained it. My mistake.03:18
* Fujitsu feels like he's doing 5-(non-)FFes-a-day03:19
Fujitsucody-somerville: fabbione, perhaps.03:19
cody-somervilleRight right03:19
cody-somerville:)03:19
* ScottK2 feels like he's d0ko's release assistant chasing after python-xml removal and python-central build-dep fixes.03:19
FujitsuScottK2: And then there's LDFLAGS...03:23
ScottK2Was that his too?03:24
FujitsuOf course.03:24
FujitsuAnd there was something else too.03:24
FujitsuI forget.03:24
FujitsuAh, yes, starting the gfortran transition.03:25
ScottK2Ah.  Well the last act for python-xml is assigned to him, so I'm done on that one.03:25
FujitsuVery good.03:26
ScottK2It's milestoned against the release too.03:26
ScottK2;-)03:27
protonchrisAnybody up for looking at a FFE (Bug 204039)?03:30
ubotuLaunchpad bug 204039 in glom "Hardy: Please update to glom 1.6.10" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20403903:30
ScottK2protonchris: Looking03:32
slangasekheh, glom still isn't done?  any time we could clear libgdamm off of http://people.ubuntu.com/~ubuntu-archive/NBS/ would be just peachy :)03:33
protonchrisslangasek: Hopefully glom will be done with the next release.  Sorry.03:34
ScottK2protonchris: The current version is FTBFS or dep wait on several archs.  Will this one be any better?03:35
ScottK2protonchris: I don't see any features in that release.  It looks like just bugfixes to me, so no FFe needed.03:38
protonchrisScottK2: Looks like hppa is hung up on python-gnome2-extras and python-gtk203:40
protonchrisScottK2: sparc stuck on python-gnome2-extras03:40
ScottK2hppa is often stuck on stuff.  Would a giveback on sparc work at this point?03:40
protonchrisScottK2: not sure.  I am new to this.  What does a giveback mean?03:44
ScottK2Try to build it again.03:45
ScottK2Is the python-gnome2-extras problem sorted out already?03:45
protonchrisIt is not clear to me why it didn't work on sparc before since it looks like sparc has python-gnome2-extras03:48
ScottK2protonchris: Maybe it didn't then03:48
ScottK2Or it's not in sufficient version03:48
protonchrisslangasek: what causes a package show up on that webpage?03:48
slangasekprotonchris: it's no longer built from any current source package, but still in the archive03:50
protonchrisScottK2: yeah, strange.  Lets try a giveback on sparc if it isn't too much trouble.03:51
* cody-somerville just made his first upload :)03:51
ScottK2cody-somerville: Congratulations again.03:51
cody-somerville:)03:51
ScottK2protonchris: Since we're contemplating a new upload, that'd take care of it.03:52
ScottK2protonchris: What about the dep wait on ia64?03:52
ScottK2protonchris: What do we have to do for libgda3-dev 3.0.2 or better to be available on that arch?03:54
protonchrisScottK2: it is waiting on libgda3-dev which segfaults during building.  segfault problem also exists in debian.03:56
PMantisHello! I setup my own repo (dpkg-scanpackages, apt-ftparchive) and with a proper sources.list file. However, if I create a Release.gpg, apt-get complains on the clients: Failed to fetch http://<path>/Release  What did I do wrong?03:57
PMantisGuess I didn't finish my first thought....03:57
ScottK2protonchris: So I'd try and look into that one.03:58
protonchrisScottK2: ok, I'll ask the debian maintainer about it.03:58
ScottK2OK.03:58
slangaseklibgda-3.0-scan.c:18: warning: implicit declaration of function 'gda_blob_op_get_type'03:58
slangasekprotonchris, ScottK2: how about setting a proper prototype? :)03:58
ScottK2Fair enough.03:59
slangasekI bet that returns a pointer and ia64 goes waaaaa03:59
PMantisBetter stated: Without the Release.gpg all is ok, except the security warning when Installing packages. With the Release.gpg file in my repository, 'apt-get update' chokes. Yes, I've imported the gpg key using apt-key.03:59
* ScottK2 is trying to help point protonchris is a useful direction without getting his hand's to sticky with the goo from this one.04:00
slangasekheh04:00
protonchrisslangasek: :)04:00
protonchrisActually that was meant for ScottK204:01
slangasek./libgda/gda-blob-op.h:GType    gda_blob_op_get_type  (void);04:02
slangasekI win04:02
slangasekunfortunately, I also lose, because I can never remember where the source for those scanners is supposed to come from. :P04:03
protonchrisScottK2: thanks for looking at the glom bug04:05
ScottK2protonchris: You're welcome.  I think you've got enough of a hint that you can go to the Debian maintainer and he can figure a patch if you aren't up to it yourself.04:06
joejaxxwhat is an FFe?04:06
ScottK2Feature Freeze Exception (replace UVFe since we don't have UVF anymore).04:06
joejaxxoh ok04:07
ScottK2Hello joejaxx04:07
joejaxxhi04:07
ScottK2joejaxx: It was suggested to me that I hunt you down to help out with unforking our SE Linux stuff.04:07
joejaxxoh ok04:08
ScottK2joejaxx: I'm expecting Manoj to upload a new setools to Debian in the next ~36 hours.04:08
joejaxxok04:09
ScottK2Personally I'd rather break SE Linux than fork, so it'd be good to have someone involved that actually cares how well it works.04:09
joejaxx:)04:09
ScottK2joejaxx: See Bug 204428 for my perspective.04:10
ubotuLaunchpad bug 204428 in setools "Package contains gratuitous divergence from Debian" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20442804:10
* joejaxx looks04:11
joejaxxScottK2: is this for hardy?04:13
joejaxxi am guessing04:13
ScottK2Yes04:13
ScottK2joejaxx: If we release with our renamed packages we'll have to carry transitional packages all the way to the next LTS release.  It'd be good not to have to maintain that diff.04:14
joejaxxyeah04:15
joejaxxhmm04:15
joejaxxok04:18
joejaxxi will try and take a look at the diff when Manoj uploads04:18
joejaxxas well :)04:18
* joejaxx wish he was not having bzr problems still :\04:19
joejaxxwell i am going to retire for the evening04:20
joejaxxGoodnight All :)04:20
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slangasekprotonchris: http://people.ubuntu.com/~vorlon/libgda3-ia64-segv.diff is the fix for libgda3's build failure on ia6404:23
protonchrisslangasek: should I submit a new package or pass that along to the debian maintainers.04:24
ScottKprotonchris: Make us a debdiff and send it to Debian.04:24
protonchrisScottK: ok.  I'll tackle this tomorrow.  Thanks.04:25
protonchrisslangasek: I hope to get libgdamm of your bad list soon.  :)04:27
protonchrisof -> off04:27
slangasekappreciated :-)04:28
FujitsuThanks ScottK.04:32
protonchrisI am going to go to bed.  Thanks for your help.04:36
cody-somervilleStevenK, Can you add me to u-u-s?04:40
* persia comes late to the party, and notes that an NMU of debian-native 0.1 is 0.1-0.104:50
persiacody-somerville: I'll do that.  Thanks for helping.04:50
cody-somervillepersia, Thanks.04:50
cody-somervilleSo, whats the command to sign the .changes file correctly?04:50
persiadebuild -S04:50
cody-somervilleRight but if I'm sponsoring someone else's upload04:51
cody-somervilleDon't I have to do something extra since I can't actually sign as them?04:51
Fujitsu-k<yourkeyid>04:52
persiaAh.  If you're sponsoring someone else's upload, use `debuild -S -k<keyid>`.  That gives them Changed-By: credit, with your signature.04:52
persiacody-somerville: https://launchpad.net/%7Ecody-somerville/+participation04:52
cody-somerville:)04:53
* Fujitsu takes a deep breath, and tries a Dapper->Hardy upgrade.05:12
ScottK2Three cheers for Fujitsu05:12
FujitsuAnybody else who's tried it? Anything I need to know?05:13
* ScottK2 tried Dapper -> Gutsy once.05:13
ScottK2It didn't end well.05:13
persiaMy memory is that upstart can bite, but that may have been fixed.05:13
FujitsuI presume it works a bit by this point in the cycle.05:14
ScottK2Actually it turns out it was largely OK (eventually), but by the time I realized I was having problems unrelated to the upgrade I'd alread nuked it.05:14
jdongFujitsu: I've heard someone else here with 3 of 3 failures05:14
jdongFujitsu: though from what I've heard, none of the failures were irrecoverable.05:14
jdongmore like they weren't spotless out of the box....05:15
jdongwhich admittedly sounds like doublespeak for failure ;-)05:15
FujitsuI've done a few stupid multi-release upgrades, but have always managed to recover from the breakage.05:15
jdongI don't think it's anything we can't recover from05:16
* jdong wonders how many hours is 600,000 centisecs....05:17
jdong1.6705:18
jdongI wonder if that's too greedy a pdflush writeback time :D05:18
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warp10Good morning06:38
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\shmoins09:34
\shmah I does not like people who are touching my bugs which I'm assigned to09:38
geserHi \sh09:39
persiatouching?  How?  While I tend to agree, I never complain if someone milestones it, or someone leaves a comment with insight.09:39
\shpersia: I mean changing status to something else....I'm assigned to the bug becasue I'm working on it. Problem is...this bug can't be confirmed, because it's just an good will of upstream to inform us that they compiled a patch list where at least 10 crashers (two of them were reported from ubuntu)..anyways...there is nothing to be confirmed to...because it deals with known bugs...and I don't like people who are just passing by to deal with those bugs09:42
\shbah,.../me needs coffee and some roles from the bakery09:42
\shbrb09:42
persia\sh: Yeah.  I tend to agree with that.  When you wake up, might say something in #ubuntu-bugs...09:42
\shre09:51
\shhah..-.breakfast is doing good to my system09:57
DRebellionWhen can I start uploading packages for hardy+1?10:29
jpatrickDRebellion: when the toolchain is uploaded10:33
harrisonyiirc as soon as hardy gets into final freeze10:33
harrisonyim wrong :P10:33
DRebellionjpatrick, any rough date set for that?10:34
jpatrickDRebellion: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/IntrepidReleaseSchedule10:34
FujitsuPerhaps mid-May.10:34
jpatrickDRebellion: May 1st10:34
DRebellionjpatrick, thanks10:35
IulianG'morning10:36
jpatrickmoin Iulian10:37
IulianHey jpatrick10:37
jpatrickbrb - TZ update10:38
\shwell, you can test already your packages with a hardy package of the toolchain stuff from ubuntu-toolchain team...10:40
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\shphew claws-mail fixed and uploaded10:58
FujitsuIs there any reason we have kfreebsd-5 in the archive, other than automatically importing it from Debian?11:05
FujitsuIt's probably pretty useless, and appears to have some open security issues.11:06
\shhmm...11:06
\shUbuntuBSD ... that would rock ,->11:06
\shpushing upstart and friends to bsd...merging ports system to .deb oh man...our bsd friends will love us ;)11:07
RainCTHi11:29
\shmoins RainCT11:29
jeromegcould someone of motu-sru have a look at bug 156432 ?11:31
ubotuLaunchpad bug 156432 in zim "Zim freeze when create a link" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/15643211:31
jeromegplease :)11:31
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\shjeromeg: can you follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates and prepare some more infos?11:35
jeromeg\sh: what is missing ?11:36
jeromegimpact: crash11:37
jeromeghow it has been adressed: with a new version11:37
jeromegpatch: attached11:37
jeromegsorry got to go to have lunch11:39
jeromegwill come back later11:39
\shjeromeg: so you just need someone who is uploading it to gutsy-proposed...11:40
jeromeg\sh: ok11:40
jeromegthank you for your help11:40
jeromegsee you11:40
bobboRainCT; i jumped in and did a fix for bug #184084 in diggler, is that ok?11:51
ubotuLaunchpad bug 184084 in tabextensions "Extension description mentions Iceweasel/Icedove/Iceape" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18408411:51
RainCTbobbo: sure, thx for working on it :)11:52
RainCTbobbo: the short description says " utilities for Seamonkey and Firefox's location bar11:53
RainCT utilities for Seamonkey and Firefox's location bar11:53
RainCT(oops)11:53
RainCT* bobbo: the short description says " utilities for Seamonkey  and Firefox's location bar11:54
RainCTargh damn irssi xDD11:54
bobboah crap i left in an extra space?11:54
RainCTbobbo: the short description mentions both Seamonkey and Firefox, but it has no alternative dependency on seamonkey11:54
zorglu_q. before i found a channel with the ubuntu people which take care about all the server/mirror to store the .deb of ubuntu. i dont remember the name tho... anybody got suggestion?11:54
\shzorglu_: ?? you have a mirror or want to setup one?11:55
zorglu_\sh: i want to talk to the people who handle this. i got no mirror to propose. i just want information11:56
bobboRainCT; ah, i just search & replaced it and Iceweasel and Iceape must have both been mentioned11:56
zorglu_\sh: i talked to somebody sometime ago on this channel i dont remember the name :)11:56
\shzorglu_: hmm...depends on the question it could be #ubuntu-devel (most likely you'll have a better chance on monday) or #canonical-sysadmin (also more likely on monday)11:57
\shbut you can ask here too...eventually we know the answer11:58
zorglu_\sh: ok i remember the personn was from canonical. but not on those channel. i will retry on monday then11:58
RainCTbobbo: well, just add seamonkey as an alternative dependency and it should be ok11:58
bobboRainCT, ok, thanks11:58
\shzorglu_: what's your problem anyways?11:58
RainCT* seamonkey-browser rather11:58
zorglu_\sh: well this is a long discussion :) not a yes/no question, so i think i will not trouble people here with irrelevant talks :)11:59
\shzorglu_: ok then :)=11:59
jpatrickzorglu_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - has a list of ubuntu channels11:59
jpatrickzorglu_: porbably #ubuntu-mirrors11:59
zorglu_jpatrick: ahhhh that's the one :)11:59
* \sh steps out for a while....12:00
zorglu_jpatrick: \sh: thanks for your help12:00
bobboRainCT; if im adding seamonkey to the diggler depends, do we still need mozilla-browser?12:02
RainCTbobbo: ahh right, mozilla-browser = seahorse-browser12:03
RainCTbobbo: no, delete mozilla-browser then (replacing it for seahorse-browser)12:03
RainCT*seamonkey-browser12:04
* RainCT thinks he should go sleep some longer lol12:04
bobboRainCT; seahorse is the gnome GPG frontend :/12:04
bobbohehe :)12:04
bobboRainCT; i stuck a new debdiff up, if your not asleep12:12
RainCTbobbo: diggler (0.9-14ubuntu2) feisty; urgency=low12:15
bobboRainCT; http://bobbo.mooo.com/~bobbo/diggler_0.9-14ubuntu2.debdiff12:16
RainCTasac: could you have a fast look at the debdiff above to be sure that I'm not overlooking anyting please? :P12:19
asacRainCT: if it works then its fine :)12:25
asacthe debdiff looks rather trivial12:25
asacis that an extension?12:25
RainCTasac: yes12:26
* RainCT is just doing stupid stuff today so I better ask before uploading anything :)12:26
asachehe12:26
RainCTbobbo: *gettingsourcechecking&uploading* :)12:30
bobbothanks :)12:30
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RainCTbobbo: Uploaded. Thanks for contributing to Ubuntu12:35
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protonchrisCan anyone point me to a package with an arch specific patch?14:03
james_wprotonchris: does the package you are working on use a patch system?14:05
james_walso, why does it need to be arch specific?14:05
protonchrisWell, it is a FTBFS on ia64.14:07
james_wyes, but it's rare that a patch needs to be arch specific14:08
james_wfor instance it would never be accepted upstream, and so Ubuntu would have to carry it until upstream fixed it properly14:08
james_wit should be possible to write a patch that only has an effect on ia6414:09
james_wcan you describe the issue? or just point to the build log?14:09
protonchrissure.  one second14:10
protonchrishttp://launchpadlibrarian.net/12660577/buildlog_ubuntu-hardy-ia64.libgda3_3.0.2-2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz14:11
protonchrisI'll try applying the patch to all arches and see what happens.14:11
james_wprotonchris: so what does the patch do14:12
james_w?14:12
james_wwas this the package that slangasek said would probably be fixed by defining function prototypes?14:13
civijaguys sorry for offtopic but maybe someone here would know or point me in right direction. who do I need to contact to get my LoCo team web page included here http://www.ubuntu.com/support/community/locallanguage? tnx14:13
protonchrisjames_w: yeah, I think so.14:14
james_wcivija: is you LoCo approved?14:14
james_wprotonchris: can you pastebin the patch please?14:14
civijajames_w: yes, we exist over 2 years14:14
civijajames_w: we also provide local support on forum, irc, ...14:15
james_wcivija: #ubuntu-locoteams might be a better place14:15
civijajames_w: ok, tnx!14:15
protonchrisjames_w: looking at the patch I don't see why it would work on all arches.14:15
protonchrisjames_w: http://people.ubuntu.com/~vorlon/libgda3-ia64-segv.diff14:16
james_wprotonchris: you don't see why it would work on all arches, or you don't see why it wouldn't?14:17
james_wI would hate to think what is in that header if including it causes failures on other arches.14:17
protonchrisjames_w: wouldn't :)14:17
james_wI agree, so I think add it and then check it still builds on your machine14:18
james_wI assume you don't have an ia64?14:18
protonchrisjames_w: no I don't14:18
protonchrisjames_w: you don't happen to have one, do you?14:18
james_wnope14:18
james_wI think you should be pretty safe throwing this one at the buildds if it still builds on your machine14:19
protonchrisjames_w: general question:  The patch is only requred for ia64.  So we are essentially fixing something that isn't broke on all the other arches by applying it.  I figured packages changes should be kept to a minimum.14:20
protonchrisjames_w: hence my arch specific question earlier.14:20
james_wyes, but it's actually something bad on all arches, but it just happens to only cause trouble on ia64 due to the sizes of different types14:21
protonchrisAh.  Good point.  Thanks.14:21
james_wand I think that the minimal change is actually to apply it on all arches14:21
james_wit's more work to make it only apply on one, and is just confusing14:22
james_wprotonchris: was this reported to Debian as well?14:22
james_wit's not reported14:23
protonchrisyeah, I am going to make a debdiff for us and pass the patch on to the debian maintainer.14:23
protonchrisI will be reported to debian.14:23
protonchrisI -> it14:23
protonchrisOnce I am sure that the patch fixes the problem.14:23
james_wah, http://buildd.debian.org/fetch.cgi?&pkg=libgda3&ver=3.0.2-2&arch=ia64&stamp=1204633860&file=log14:24
james_wyeah, that's the right approach14:24
james_wyou can point them to that. It does fail on Debian, it just hasn't been processed and a bug filed yet14:24
protonchrisYeah, I noticed the debian problem a little while ago and thought they might fix it.  Then we could sync again, but I think we are running out of time.14:25
protonchrisjames_w: thanks for your help.14:27
james_wyeah, the best thing to do at this point is to patch it and send it upstream. It can be synced after release with only a little more effort14:28
james_wno problem14:28
protonchrisWhen changing a debian package should the following control file fields be removed: Uploaders, DM-Upload-Allowed, Vcs-Browser, and Vcs-Svn ?14:44
Exfili need some help setting up virtual hosts on apache can anyone help?14:53
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james_wprotonchris: no, maybe, yes, yes15:05
james_wExfil: #ubuntu is for support15:06
james_wprotonchris: the second has no meaning here, so it wouldn't hurt to keep it, the last two would giving bad information though, so they should be removed or modified15:06
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ScottK2Exfil: You can get server specifiy support on #ubuntu-server.15:21
ScottK2protonchris: The patch that slangesek gave you is good for all archs.  ia64 is more picky, which is why it only FTBFS, but it's a good change all the way around.15:22
ScottK2protonchris: It's also the kind of change that you can safely make based on code inspection and I trust him to have got it right.15:23
ScottK2protonchris: Let me know if you need help packaging the patch or when you're ready to have it sponsored.15:23
protonchrisScottK2: thanks.15:28
protonchrisScottK2: If you are bored, you could take a look at Bug 204039 and sponsor an upload if the package is good. :)15:36
ubotuLaunchpad bug 204039 in glom "Hardy: Please update to glom 1.6.10" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20403915:36
ScottK2protonchris: I'm not bored, but I'll have a look anyway.15:43
protonchrisScottK2: Thanks.15:45
ScottK2protonchris: You were going to give me the ia64 fix for the library.  I'd like to upload that first.15:46
ScottK2protonchris: How's that coming?15:46
protonchrisScottK2: building on my machine now.15:47
ScottK2protonchris: Great.15:48
ScottK2protonchris: I should be here for several hours, so ping me when that one's ready and I'll do it first.15:48
marnanelI was told to come here on #ubuntu-bugs; I am making a debdiff to add a patch (that I wrote for upstream) to a package; I've not used debuild before. james_w was talking me through doing it yesterday.  My patch adds a file which needs compiling, and adds it to Makefile.am; it gets linked in if I use ./configure;make but not debuild -uc -s.  Where should I start looking for a solution?15:50
marnanelI assume I have a problem with debian/rules but I can't see what.15:52
pochumarnanel: shouldn't you 'automake' it so that your change gets to Makefile.in?15:52
marnanelpochu: debuild does not do that for me?  I know little about the internal workings of debuild15:53
pochuI don't think so, debuild is just a wrapper around dpkg-buildpackage AFAIK15:54
ScottK2protonchris: Why do you "Rebuild against updated libgdamm3.0 soname." on both your last upload and this one according to debian/changelog?15:54
* marnanel figured I shouldn't touch derived files because the tools would deal with them15:54
marnanelOkay then...15:54
crimsunmarnanel: no, autotools are not automatically invoked15:54
marnanelpochu, crimsun: thanks15:54
crimsun(where I'm being loose with the term "autotools")15:54
ScottK2protonchris: This is glom still ....  pycompat is no longer needed and should be removed.  It was only useful when dh_python was being used.15:55
ScottK2protonchris: I haven't built it yet, but from a quick look at the glom debdiff, those are my comments.15:56
bobbois anyone in here bored / willing to check a debdiff for me?16:00
ScottK2Just 6 packages left in Bug #204895 and they're going fast.  This may be your last chance to participate in this special offer.  Excellent bug for people new to packaging that want to learn a bit more to work on.16:00
ubotuLaunchpad bug 204895 in harvestman "Packages failed archive rebuild test possibly due to python-central transition" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20489516:00
ScottK2bobbo: What bug?16:00
bobboScottK2; bug #18406316:01
ubotuLaunchpad bug 184063 in apt-mirror "apt-mirror should mirror .bz2 files" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18406316:01
protonchrisScottK2: libgdamm3.0 soname has changed twice recently.16:02
ScottK2protonchris: Fair enough.  Thanks.16:03
ScottK2bobbo: It's not clear to me from reading the bug what this actually helps.16:03
ScottK2bobbo: What does mirror, but not use mean?16:03
ScottK2bobbo: How have you tested this patch?16:04
bobboScottK2; it was in dholbachs really fix it list so i had assumed it had been tested16:04
ScottK2bobbo: OK.  That's a script that just picks up anything that's marked patch in Launchpad.16:05
bobboScottK2; ah, sorry, i thought they were manually added :/16:06
ScottK2bobbo: Looking at it, it looks sane, but I'm not familiar enough with the package to be comfortable uploading it this late in the cycle without some sort of testing.16:06
ScottK2bobbo: Maybe you could get in touch with the original reporter and have him test it?16:06
bobboScottK2; ok, will do that16:07
protonchrisScottK2: Here is the debdiff for libgda3 ... Bug 20883316:26
ubotuLaunchpad bug 208833 in libgda3 "FTBFS: libgda3_3.0.2-2 on hardy/ia64" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20883316:26
\shdamn..i need to start to code more on my own16:26
james_whi marnanel16:27
ScottK2protonchris: Looking16:28
marnaneljames_w: hey there :)16:29
james_whow's it going today?16:29
james_wgot any more stories for me?16:29
james_wor a pot of tea I could share?16:29
protonchrisI got some tea to share :)16:30
marnanelI have actually drunk all the tea :( There are always plenty of stories, though16:30
james_wah, we should all take a little break for some tea and stories then.16:31
* marnanel agrees16:31
james_wI've got a load of cake that needs eating as well16:31
* marnanel has happy memories of Pembroke College Winnie-the-Pooh Society where everyone sits around eating cake and drinking tea and reading Winnie the Pooh stories to one another. I think it should start branches outside Cambridge16:32
marnanelSo I am having this problem.  I think something in the packaging tools is not picking up that I intend to add two new files to the src directory.  It fails to link because of this, although a couple of people pointed out that if I run automake before debuild this will be fixed, and that's true.  However, debdiff says there are no changes in the file list.  What am I doing wrong here?16:34
ScottK2protonchris: debdiff looks good.  If it builds I'll upload it.16:35
protonchrisScottK2: great16:35
ScottK2protonchris: If you upload a revised glom debdiff that removes pycompat, I'll do that one after.16:36
protonchrisScottK2: ok16:37
protonchrisScottK2: It is almost ready.  I am building now (just to make sure) :)16:37
AnAntman-di: hello16:40
james_wmarnanel: are you debdiffing the resulting .debs?16:41
AnAntman-di: I notice that gcc,g++ & gcj on Debian are all 4.3, do you think icedtea (or openjdk, as I heard it got renamed) would build ?16:41
james_wmarnanel: debdiff has two modes, one compares binary packages, one source packages, we want to use the source package mode. I assume that your changes don't add any more files to the binary packages, which is what suggests you may be using binary mode16:42
marnaneljames_w: I am, yes.  debdiff orig/gnome-alsamixer_0.9.7~cvs.20060916.ds.1-1_i386.deb new/gnome-alsamixer_0.9.7~cvs.20060916.ds.1-1_i386.deb  -->  File lists identical (after any substitutions)16:42
marnanelahh, okay16:42
james_wmarnanel: ok, so pass it the .dsc files instead16:42
james_wmarnanel: you must run debuild -S after all your changes to build the .dsc for the your new version16:42
ScottK2protonchris: I got distracted and just now kicked off my libgada build.16:44
marnanelwhat is .dsc?16:44
protonchrisScottK2: no problem16:45
ScottK2marnanel: .deb is the binary file you install.  .dsc is the source control file that describes what is in the source package.16:45
marnanelohhh, okay16:45
* marnanel tries this16:46
AnAntping man-di16:47
james_wmarnanel: the .dsc is a text file, so you can read it to see a little what it is about.16:48
james_wit just lists some info about the package, and then the files that make up the rest of the source package, along with md5sums and sizes for integrity purposes16:49
protonchrisScottK2: when you get a chance -> Bug 20403916:50
ubotuLaunchpad bug 204039 in glom "Hardy: Please update to glom 1.6.10" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20403916:50
ScottK2OK.  After libgada is done.16:50
protonchrisScottK2: thanks16:51
marnanelwell, now it thinks it can't find my secret key.  *goes to find out how to tell it how to find my secret key*16:52
james_wmarnanel: -kkeyid16:54
marnaneljames_w: aha.  thanks.16:54
james_wmarnanel: however, you don't really need to sign it, as you are not going to be passing the actual source package to anyone else, just using it as a source for the diff, so the other option is "-uc -us" again16:54
ScottK2protonchris: There's a .11 out for glom now.  Do we want that?16:56
marnaneloh, neat16:57
protonchrisScottK2: dang.  Yeah, looks like a bug fix.  One of these days I will be done with glom.16:58
ScottK2protonchris: libgada uploaded.  Thank you for your contribution to Ubuntu.  Please send the patch to Debian in a bug.16:58
ScottK2protonchris: Let me know when you're ready for me to look at that one.16:58
protonchrisScottK2: 6 new versions since the 1st of the year.16:59
ScottK2:-)16:59
marnanelwhat is the difference between .dsc and .dsc.asc ?17:01
ScottK2marnanel: The .asc file gets left over if you try to sign it and it fails.  It can be removed.17:02
marnanelScottK2: thank you17:04
ScottK2marnanel: You're welcome.17:04
marnanelOookkay!! I have a debdiff.  It contains everything I want, plus mysteriously some additions to the gettext template.17:09
marnanelAny reason I shouldn't strip that by hand?17:09
marnanelalso: I find a lot of this sort of work needs doing on packages I maintain upstream: is there a conflict of interest if upstream maintainers get involved in downstream maintenance?17:13
pochuno, you're welcome to work downstream instead :)17:13
pochumarnanel: and yes, I think you should remove the gettext changes from the debdiff17:14
marnanelif I work downstream instead the packages go almost completely unmaintained, which would not make anyone happy :)17:14
marnanelokay, great17:15
ScottK2marnanel: Do both.  There are packages I work on upstream, in Debian, and Ubuntu.17:19
marnanelScottK2: okay, great-- that's helpful to know.  I'll ask the downstream maintainers how I can be of use to them.17:21
marnanelOkay, so now I have this debdiff, I just make it an attachment to the bug report?17:21
marnanelOr is there more to it than that?17:21
protonchrisScottK2: looks like it built on ia64 just fine.  Thanks.17:22
ScottK2protonchris: Great.17:22
protonchrismurrayc_: ping17:22
ScottK2protonchris: If something FTBFS on IA64 and no where else, then thing it failed on is virtually always a missing include.17:22
protonchrisScottK2: good to know.  I haven't played with a ia64 at all.17:23
ScottK2marnanel: Attach it to a bug report and subscribe ubuntu-universe-sponsors.17:23
ScottK2marnanel: Assuming it's a Universe package.  If it's in Main, it's ubuntu-main-sponsors.17:23
ScottK2protonchris: Don't forget the send the patch to Debian step of the process.17:25
protonchrisScottK2: will do.17:26
murrayc_protonchris: pong17:28
AnAntwhat is a Ubuntero ?17:30
protonchrismurrayc_: any plans to do another glom release in the next month?17:31
murrayc_Not unless I hear of another bug that needs fixing. Sorry for the frequent releases, but I am trying to push bugfixes out as soon as possible because I don't know when my last chance for Hardy really i17:31
murrayc_s17:31
pochuAnAnt: someone who has signed the CoC17:31
ScottK2!ubuntero17:31
ubotuTo become an Ubuntero on Launchpad you need to sign the Code of Conduct.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto17:31
protonchrismurrayc_: ok.  I'll work on getting .11 into hardy.17:31
AnAntpochu: ok17:33
murrayc_protonchris: Many thanks.17:33
\shnixternal: so i'm not alone with this problem :)17:33
marnanel"This attachment is a patch" -- is a debdiff a patch within the meaning of this statement?17:33
\shmarnanel: yes..it's a patch :)17:33
marnanelthanks17:34
AnAntthanks17:34
* marnanel is used to hunting down people who tick that box elsewhere and then upload things which aren't strictly unified diff format :)17:34
marnanelOkay!  All done!  Do I just sit back and wait for someone to deal with it now?17:37
pochumarnanel: yes. which bug # ?17:43
marnanelbug 10690317:45
ubotuLaunchpad bug 106903 in gnome-alsamixer "error message when gnome-alsamixer is launching" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/10690317:45
protonchrisScottK2: if you have time (new 1.6.11 package) -> Bug 20403917:45
ubotuLaunchpad bug 204039 in glom "Hardy: Please update to glom 1.6.10" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20403917:45
ScottK2protonchris: Looking17:47
ScottK2protonchris: You change the version requirements in the build-depends without documenting that in debian/changelog.17:50
ScottK2protonchris: Same thing with depends.17:51
ScottK2protonchris: Please update debian/changelog and let me know when it's ready.17:51
protonchrisScottK2: mind if I query?17:59
ScottK2Not at all18:01
slangasekprotonchris: that patch is fixing something that isn't *obviously* broken on other architectures.  It's broken on amd64 as well, but amd64 happens at present to normally map everything at addresses below the 31-bit mark, so a pointer truncated to 32-bits (which is what happens without this patch) will happen to Just Work right now, but it's still a latent bug18:39
ScottK2protonchris: glom built, so ping me when you're done with your functional testing.18:43
protonchrisScottK2: glom worked just fine.  I was able to open an example database as well as create a brand new one.18:52
protonchrisslangasek: thanks for the info.18:53
ScottK2protonchris: Uploaded.  Thank you for your contribution to Ubuntu.18:57
protonchrisScottK2: thanks for all of your help today.18:57
ScottK2protonchris: You could show appreciation by knocking out a couple of debdiffs or sync requests for Bug #20489518:58
ubotuLaunchpad bug 204895 in python-pmw "Packages failed archive rebuild test possibly due to python-central transition" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20489518:58
ScottK2I'll sponsor those too (after I get back).18:58
eddyMulcan cdbs simple-patchsys handle svn diffs?19:00
pochueddyMul: I think so19:08
eddyMulpochu: thanx.19:09
protonchrisslangasek, ScottK2: looks like glom can be built on sparc due to a python problem:19:09
protonchriscan -> can't19:09
protonchrispython-gnome2-extras-dev: Depends: python-gnome2-extras (>= 2.19.1-0ubuntu7) but it is not going to be installed19:09
eddyMulam looking at LP#128761, but patch from upstream applies to svn trunk, instead of current Ubuntu version. Oh well..  :(19:10
mbtCan a REVU admin sync the uploaders keyring, please?19:12
RainCTmbt: sure19:15
mbtRainCT: Thanks!19:15
RainCTmbt: what's you LP account?19:15
mbtmtrausch19:15
RainCThas the logo in the MOTD changed? :P19:16
mbt?19:17
RainCTmbt: done19:18
mbtThanks!  :)  Appreciate it.  Got an upload coming, then.19:18
RainCT(that about the MOTD was a general comment, not to you ;))19:19
mbtAhh, alright.  Was confused for a second lol19:19
spaceplukHi, I'm trying to make my first package from emesene sources19:25
spaceplukthis is a python program, but I'm not sure if I've to compile it someway or just let the .py files.19:27
spaceplukThere's no makefile provided with the sources19:27
slangasekprotonchris: yes, the python-gnome2-extras uninstallability is Somebody Else's Problem :)19:28
mbtspacepluk: You might want to check out some other python application source packages to see how other people package them.  spe (an editor in Python) might be a good package to look at.19:28
protonchrisslangasek: I'll keep an eye for that being fixed and then do a glom giveback.19:29
POX_spacepluk: http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/python-apps/packages/?rev=0&sc=019:29
protonchrisslangasek: unfortunately that problem will keep libgdamm on your bad list :(19:29
spaceplukmbt: POX_: thanks :)19:30
slangasekprotonchris: except I'm going to fix that problem right now ;)19:35
slangasekor at least, I'll soon know /why/ it fails19:36
spaceplukmbt: spe is a perfect sample, thank you very much19:36
mbtspacepluk: You're welcome.19:40
slangasekprotonchris: buildd admins pinged, build failure may be sorted out soon19:46
protonchrisslangasek: thanks.19:46
bobboRainCT; ping19:48
RainCTbobbo: pong20:03
norsettohowdy dowdy all20:24
pochuhi norsetto20:24
norsettoHola pochu20:25
protonchrisnorsetto: hey.20:26
norsettoprotonchris: hi Chris!20:27
protonchrisnorsetto: I think the glom and libgdamm stuff for hardy is finally finished. :)20:28
norsettoprotonchris: yes, I even remember somebody telling me "this should be pretty easy" ;-)20:29
bobboRainCT; sorry, was away, are there any packages in Bug #184084 that you havent made a patch for and i could do tonight?20:30
ubotuLaunchpad bug 184084 in venkman "Extension description mentions Iceweasel/Icedove/Iceape" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18408420:30
norsettoAmaranth: are you here?20:30
RainCTbobbo: all those which are marked as "new"20:30
bobboRainCT; ah thanks, didnt want to duplicate any work20:31
protonchrisScottK2: I'll take a look at one of your python-central bugs tomorrow.  Thanks again.20:38
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FujitsuScottK2: Around?21:53
jdonggrumble22:25
jdong80% of the open bugs in my subscribed page seems to be because of Baltix holding a ticket open.22:25
Fujitsujdong: That seems to be the sole purpose of Baltix.22:25
slangasekheh22:26
slangasekjdong: I habitually unsubscribe ubuntu-archive from those backports bugs after the backports task is closed, if I see Baltix on there22:26
jdongslangasek: yeah that's a smart idea. I'm unsubscribing myself from those bugs atm :)22:26
jdongit brought me a few "Oh crap I haven't done that yet?" moments22:27
* jdong grumbles at https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24/+bug/185634/comments/3922:28
ubotuLaunchpad bug 185634 in linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24 "uvcvideo: iSight firmware loading does not work" [Medium,Confirmed]22:29
jdongthat's a real helpful tone....22:29
ScottK2Fujitsu: Here now.22:30
FujitsuScottK2: /query22:30
sistpotyhi folks22:31
ScottK2Fujitsu: Sure22:31
pochuhey sistpoty22:33
sistpotyhi pochu22:33
sebnerhoi sistpoty22:34
sistpotyhi sebner22:34
sebnersistpoty: I already mailed cesare. I the package is in sid soon I would do the FFe sync stuff :)22:34
sebner*If22:34
sistpotysebner: which one actually?22:35
sebnersistpoty: ah sry. conky22:35
sistpotysebner: ah, excellent. Thanks a lot!22:35
emgentheya22:36
sistpotyhi emgent22:36
sebnersistpoty: ah not a big thing. I also did the last sync :) but I also told cesare that for packaging from scratch (if it doesn't hit sid soon) I'm not the right one ...22:37
sistpotyheh22:38
sistpotyRainCT: I'd like to reboot sparky for kernel upgrade. ok for you, or should I wait a little bit?22:40
sistpoty(as you're logged in)22:40
RainCTsistpoty: I'm not.. it's probably some screen which I left on22:41
sistpotyRainCT: hm... ok... then I'll reboot now22:41
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ScottK2sistpoty: Would you please ack Bug #209006?  I'm interested enough to do a sync, but not so much that I'll fill out all the FFe paperwork.  At worst it'll be going from totally broken to less broken.22:41
ubotuLaunchpad bug 209006 in quantlib-swig "Please sync quantlib-swig 0.9.0-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)." [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20900622:42
marnanelDoes launchpad have a way to view the current debian/patches of an Ubuntu project?22:42
ScottK2marnanel: Download the source and look is the easiest way.  apt-get source packagename.22:43
sistpotyScottK2: acked22:44
marnanelThanks.  I wanted something I could link to from the metacity page (I was making a list of distro-specific changes), though22:44
ScottK2sistpoty: Thanks.22:44
sebnerIs anyone willing to merge monodevelop 1.0 final?22:44
sebnerNo?22:44
ScottK2marnanel: I don't think so.22:44
sebnerOk, I'll do it :P22:45
sistpotywohoo... sparky survived the reboot as well as spooky :)22:45
sebnerlol22:46
gesersistpoty: you sound like you didn't expect it22:46
sistpotygeser: well, I did expect it to work, but I'm always feeling better if it in fact does *g*22:47
marnanelScottK2: Okay... thanks for your help!22:49
ScottK2marnanel: You might ask in #launchpad.22:49
RainCTgood night22:55
sebnerRainCT: gn8 :)22:56
jpatrickRainCT: night22:56
bobbonight RainCT22:56
pochumarnanel: http://patches.ubuntu.com/m/metacity/extracted/22:57
ScottK2albert23: willowng uploaded.  Thank you for your contribution to Ubuntu.23:01
albert23ScottK2: Thanks!23:02
ScottK2albert23: I'm test building sqlrelay now.  Feel free to grab some more from that bug.23:04
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ScottK2albert23: sqlrelay uploaded too.  Thank you again for your contribution and please keep them coming.23:12
albert23ScottK2: Should -nspkg.pth files still be removed as described in http://python-modules.alioth.debian.org/python-central_howto.txt?23:16
* ScottK2 looks23:17
albert23ScottK2: Doing that needs some additional work to make the package installable, but Debian doesn't do it anymore23:18
ScottK2albert23: Python-central handles that now for you (I'm pretty sure).23:18
ScottK2No.  wait23:18
ScottK2I was looking at the line about about egg naming23:19
albert23Scottk2: http://packages.debian.org/sid/i386/python-enthought-traits/filelist lists these files23:19
ScottK2Let's ask a real expert.23:19
ScottK2POX_: Are you around?  ^^^^23:19
ScottK2I'm not sure.23:19
norsettog'night folks23:21
albert23Scottk2: Is it bad if we remove them? The fix to make the package installable is easy, just remove the files before dh_pycentral is called, instead of after that call.23:22
ScottK2albert23: Then I'd do it that way.  No, I don't think it's bad, just not sure if it's necessary.23:23
albert23Scottk2: will do that23:24
marnanelpochu: a winner is you, totally23:31
marnanelpochu: thanks23:31
sebnerCan somebody help me? I'm currently merging monodevelop 1.0. It build-dep on xulrunner-1.9-dev but pbuilder is not willing to install it but to keep xulrunner [1.8.1.13+nobinonly-0ubuntu1 (hardy)]23:39
pochusebner: can you paste a log somewhere?23:39
pochusebner: and can you pastebin debian/control too?23:40
sebnerpochu: http://pastebin.com/m6bdbec7a23:40
sebnerpochu: http://pastebin.com/m7defc07223:41
pochuany reason you're not using pbuilder-satisfydepends-gdebi? :)23:42
sebnerpochu: yes. I never used it before ^^23:42
pochusebner: in debian/control, you have both libxul-dev and xulrunner-1.9-dev, but the latter conflicts with the former23:42
pochusebner: so remove libxul-dev23:43
pochusince we have ported it to Xulrunner 1.9 (right?)23:43
sebnerpochu: cool. thx :D23:43
sebnerpochu: so remove it? Because debian replaced (something with geko) with it23:43
sistpotysebner: maybe asac has some clues about xulrunner? ;)23:44
pochusebner: sorry, didn't get you. debian did what?23:44
sebnersistpoty: Yeah I would ask him if he were online23:45
pochuhe's online, but probably not in front of the computer ;)23:45
sistpotysebner: and slomo_ about mono? (just to highlight yet another person :P)23:45
sebnerpochu: Replaced libgecko2.0-cil build dependency with libxul-dev, as it's used23:46
sebner+      directly.23:46
sebnersistpoty: mono isn't the problem? or do you want mono 1.9 in hardy? ^^23:46
pochusebner: see this changelog entry: monodevelop (0.18.1+dfsg-1ubuntu2) hardy; urgency=low23:46
sistpotysebner: no, but monodevelop sounds mono related, doesn't it? :P23:46
pochuwe are using xulrunner-1.9-dev, so you just need to remove libxul-dev23:47
sebnerpochu: ah great. I'm a dunce :D MD can rock now23:47
sebnersistpoty: xD xD xD23:47
sebnerpochu: and I suppose the depency on libxul0d isn't also need anymore?23:48
pochuright23:48
pochuwe depend on xulrunner-1.923:48
pochuinstead23:48
sebner:D :D :D23:49
pochusebner: for pbuilder-satisfydepends-gdebi, just use it in /etc/pbuilderrc instead of your current pbuilder-satisfydepends, it's much faster23:49
sebnerpochu: nice to hear :) thx for the tip23:50
pochunp23:50
sebnerpochu: wow. it's pretty fast :) Is there something similar for LP? :P ^^23:55
sistpotywell, for me speed is not really the problem, but rather that it should behave exactly like soyuz (quite some while ago, pbuilder resolved or'd build-dependencies exactly the other way as soyuz, not too sure if it's still the case though)23:57
pochusebner: heh, ssh to the database server and query it, but I don't think that's possible for people like us ;)23:57
sebnerhrhr23:58

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