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zabadappzorglups2: is it green for all resolutions (800x600 and so on), or just for the res for the 42" ?00:02
zabadappand remember that the color temperature is different for a tv than for a monitor ...00:04
zorglups2Well, I tried a few and even during the boot, the 'white' text turns green. I guess this is not really an xorg matter00:04
zorglups2In my TV setup page, I checked for the color temperature... This was set to default. I tried the 'warm' and 'cold' but this did not change much.00:05
zorglups2A few monthes ago, I did connect my laptop to the TV and did not see this problem.00:07
zorglups2My laptop run's WinXP...00:07
zorglups2I should try again but would need to reboot (after having connected the TV) and can't do that now.00:07
zabadappas a workaround, can't you get the colors right if you adjust them? (on the computer ... X server color correction in nvidia-settings if you have such a card ... )00:08
DboyI have this usb tuner card... made in taiwan but it has a phillips chipset.00:10
DboyShouldn't it work with myth00:10
Dboy?00:10
DboyI've downloaded the myth packages, but somehow I think I am missing something because it doesn't seem to recognize the usb tuner00:10
zorglups2zabadapp: I should check but need to invest a bit in understanding those graphical stuffs in Linux. I feel soo stupid there...00:11
zorglups2zabadapp: What I tried was playing with those RGB settings on the tv set. I did not find any suitable setting yet.00:11
RigoloDboy: did you take a look at linuxtv.org to see if it is supported by their drivers?00:11
zorglups2zabadapp: The strange thing is that I don't have such a green cast with the laptop.00:12
zabadappzorglups2: i agree it's strange ... what graphics card is it?00:12
RigoloDboy: the kernel modules for v4l are coming from the linuxtv.org site also00:13
zorglups2zabadapp: The MoBo is the Intel D201GLY2 an has a SiS chipset. The Laptop (XP) has an ATI video controller.00:15
zorglups2zabadapp: Both work fine with the 22" LCD but the "green" issue only happens when connecting the Intel Mobo to the TV.00:15
Rigolozorglups2: same cables in both cases?00:15
zorglups2Yes :-( I tried another cable as well...00:15
Rigolozorglups2: and did you had it working with a "plain vanilla" ubunut live cd for example?00:16
zorglups2I will go reboot my XP laptop connected to the TV and make sure I don't see this green problem (last time I tried was a few monthes ago).00:18
zorglups2The live cd was my next idea as well. I planned using a GeexBox or something I have on CD already.00:18
Rigolozorglups2: see what happens when you boot your pc connected to the 42" and then boot your live cd00:18
zorglups2I will give it a try now. Thanks anyway for your support... I'll let you know.00:19
Rigolozorglups2: I prefer ubuntu live cd's .. or knoppix or something like that .. with hardware detection for screens00:19
Rigolo01:19 here ... time to go the bed soon :-)00:19
zorglups2here too  ;-)00:19
zabadapphere too :-D00:19
zorglups2From Namur (Belgium)00:19
Rigolo.nl00:19
zabadappsweden00:19
zorglups2So I guess you won't be there when I'll post my result. Have nice dreams...00:20
* Rigolo is waiting for mythtv to finsih compiling ... want to test a patch for a bug00:20
Rigolowell ... I leave this window open most of the time :-)00:21
alexvdall  is irman still broken in current build of mythbuntu01:04
alexvdthat is the lirc version that is included01:04
majoridiotif there is anyone using firewire with a Scientific Atlanta cable box or other cable box that requires p2p priming, please pm me... testers are needed for a new version of the firewire primer.  **will not require any changes to your configuration!!**01:06
javatexanman am I bummed01:25
javatexanI can't work on my plugin for a couple of weeks because of work... :(01:25
majoridiotjavatexan, what is you plugin?01:27
javatexanits super top secret, but it will be very very cool when I am finished :)01:34
zabadappgive us a hint at least01:38
javatexani cant...but its a bummer that I cant work on it for a while...01:39
rhpot1991I bet it involves tivo01:43
ajhwith nvidia I'm getting 1/4 of the screen randomly showing the myth theme background and a progress bar, while watching tv, or in the guide, any ideas?02:02
ajhlike bad X expose events, but that's probably not it :)02:02
Stemming78Hey guys --> I finally got my Remote Frontend Openchrome driver setup correctly (fresh install) and now I cannot watch LiveTV or Recordings  ---Frontend closes02:17
javatexanrhpot1991: you are so right02:38
javatexan:)02:38
javatexanyeah...it is prolly completely useless to most myth users02:39
javatexanwho knows...right02:40
rhpot1991javatexan: I'm sure there are those who will appreciate it02:40
javatexanIt's working now in script form...I am about to start the gui02:45
rhpot1991how are you doing the gui javatexan?03:02
superm1javatexan, super top secrete?03:12
superm1i like secrets03:12
superm1want to tell me?03:12
superm1rhpot1991, mythstream finally got backported today i think03:13
rhpot1991superm1: thats good to hear03:24
rhpot1991I'll check the FAQs and see if anything needs to be altered to indicate that03:24
Dar1ushas anyone used ubuntu with JMicron RAID?03:38
Dar1us(successfully)03:38
MythbuntuGuest04i upgraded one of my frontends to hardy and the sound stoped i asked around and googled and finaly found that it was using a 386 kernel instead of the generic, so i followed to instructions to use the generic and remove the 386 one03:57
MythbuntuGuest04now the sound works03:57
MythbuntuGuest04but, my tv is black and white without color03:58
MythbuntuGuest04when i access it with vnc its color, so im sure its something with the video card, any ideas?03:58
MythbuntuGuest04anyone?04:08
emjaanyone know where irexec starts from? I can't find it in /etc/ or in ~04:12
emjaok, bad question. in what startup script is irexec referenced?04:19
majoridiotemja-04:24
majoridiotput it in /etc/rc.local04:25
emja?04:25
emjano. I'm asking where is it already?04:25
majoridiotirexec is not started by default04:25
emjarealy?04:25
emjaon my fresh mythbuntu build it *is* starting04:25
majoridiotso sudo edit your /etc/rc.local and add04:25
majoridiotirexec -d04:25
majoridiotbefore the exit 004:25
majoridiothm... ok.  must have been a new addition.04:26
emjasure, but it is already starting. I'm trying to find where so I can nuke it, then I can start it in my preferred location04:26
majoridiotemja, are you sure about it starting automatically?04:26
emjayep. If I reboot, it starts04:27
majoridioti just check a fresh 8.04 install and it is not running04:27
emjaIf I kill it, then restart gdm, it also starts04:27
emja7.10 here04:27
majoridiotdoesn't run by default in my 7.10 either.04:27
emjaweird04:28
emjavery very weird04:28
emjasomething is starting it on login or when X/gdm starts04:29
emjanot during boot. that much I've confirmed04:29
Dar1usemja: grep -r iexeced / :)04:30
Dar1usirexecd even04:30
emja:)04:30
emjayes, did that too04:30
emjahence my complete lack of folicular growth04:30
Stemming78majoridiot:  Finally got my remote frontend setup/ 3D enabled...  Have a problem watching TV or recordings --> Frontend crashes..04:31
majoridiotStemming78, i saw your earlier post... successful misery.04:31
majoridiotStemming78, just out of curiosity... why are you beating yer head against a wall to get 3D working on a pvr?04:32
Stemming78yah, quite the headache; but think the DRI problem I was experiencing was the worsk04:32
Dar1usmajoridiot: awesome screensavers! :)04:32
Stemming78No, throwing the kids against the wall... Dont want to ruin the looks ;-)04:32
* emja laughs04:33
* majoridiot has no sympathy for eye-candy induced problems04:33
majoridiot:P04:33
Stemming78Must mention, I had to do another install after the last post;  screwed up the xorg once again and couldnt recover.04:34
Stemming78SO, the kids have been traumatized today!04:34
Stemming78Anyways, what do you think?  throw the box to the curb? or is there a reason for Frontend crashing....   Can play Videos04:35
emjaDar1us & majoridiot: found it; /usr/share/mythbuntu/session.sh04:36
Stemming78majoridiot:  was unable to get smooth video when watching TV or Recordings... Thats why I went 3D not to sure if it helped as I cannot get them to play...04:39
majoridiot3D shouldn't have anything to do with video.04:39
Stemming78ahhh, well that was unnecessary work for me then....04:40
Dar1uswell.. you can use open gl to scale & colour space convert04:40
Stemming78So, any ideas as to how to rectify the frontend crashing?04:40
majoridiotDar1us, you *can*...04:41
majoridiotStemming78, what kind of errors do you get in your logs when it crashes?04:41
Dar1usmajoridiot: and it can be beneficial04:41
majoridiotDar1us, if the driver cooperates... yes, it can.04:42
Dar1usmajoridiot: yeah :)04:42
Stemming782008-03-28 22:29:47.164 VideoOutputXv: Desired video renderer 'ivtv' not available.04:42
Stemming78codec 'MPEG2' makes 'opengl,xv-blit,xshm,xlib,' available, using 'opengl' instead.04:42
Stemming782008-03-28 22:29:47.305 GLVid, Error: Fatal error04:42
Stemming78Sorry... should have pastebin04:42
majoridiotnot for that.  not an abuse.04:44
majoridiotwhat are you using as a tuner?04:45
Stemming78Tuner is on the Backend --> PVR50004:45
Dar1uscan anyone recommend a RAID1 card (cheap) that will work with ubunutu?04:46
Dar1usI'm allergic to reinstallin because of dead disks04:46
Stemming78majoridiot: Well, I disabled 3D (bs) and now Recordings are playing back smooth!!!04:49
Stemming78no crashes of course.  You have a minute for a small fav por favor?04:50
majoridiotwell whut'cha know.04:50
* majoridiot is crunched for time, atm... what's up?04:50
Stemming78Hey, but the video is smooth...04:51
majoridiot'twas the point, no?04:51
Stemming78Xorg is my pitfall... Have it setup for TV, would like to implement LCD into it...   You up for the challenge?04:51
Dar1usdo you have a dual head card?04:52
Dar1uswell, what sort of card do you have?04:52
Stemming78The Epia has Composite and VGA output.  BIOS has TV and CRT settings...  Currently both TV and LCD are on, but resolutions are off....04:52
* majoridiot is buried with the firewire primer atm... and just about out of steam.04:53
Stemming78Using the default xorg.conf04:53
Stemming78np major!04:53
Dar1usif X already groks them then you should be able to change res with xrandr or some gui tool04:54
majoridiothttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4608647#post460864704:58
Stemming78Dar1us: Tried the Display settings and that made it worse...  Not sure which display res is being used, but it seems as if it is for a widescreen04:59
Stemming78So, it works just doesnt feel completed.04:59
Dar1usodd05:00
Dar1uspastebin the output of xrandr?05:00
Stemming78var/log/?05:00
Dar1usxrandr --screen 1 --prop05:00
Dar1usand xrandr --screen 0 --prop05:01
majoridiotare you xrandr-ey, baby?05:01
Stemming78nothing shows on the screen.  Does it write to a log?05:03
Dar1usodd05:04
Dar1usit should dump what resolutions the displays can do05:05
Stemming78yah...   Actually, it didnt open a new line; just fashed then back to the same $ prompt05:05
Dar1usthe output from my laptop looks like.. http://pastebin.ca/96177905:06
majoridiotStemming78, try redirecting it to a log file?05:06
Stemming78Thank you...  did not have a space w/ between "screen 0"05:07
Dar1usahh05:08
Dar1uslearn to read :)05:08
* majoridiot recommends the fine art of cut-and-paste to Stemming78 05:08
Stemming78I am on the Vista box, thanks idiot;  cannot run that command from a SSH session05:09
Dar1usahh05:09
Dar1uswell you could05:09
Dar1uslog in locally and do xhost +05:09
Dar1usthen inyour putty do05:09
Dar1usexport DISPLAY=:005:09
* majoridiot runs before Stemming78's computer asplodes05:10
Stemming78http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6182/05:11
Stemming78HAH05:11
Dar1usis that run locally?05:12
Dar1usor via putty?05:12
Stemming78local, but same output w/ putty05:12
Stemming78thanks for the command...  like that05:12
Dar1uswell that says you onlyhave one screen05:12
Dar1usyou could try xrandr -d :1 --prop too05:13
Dar1usie xrandr -d :1 --prop05:13
Stemming78didnt like either command --- at help05:13
Dar1uspastebin what it says05:13
Stemming78Can't open display :105:14
Stemming78xrandr -d :1 --prop05:14
Dar1usok05:14
* majoridiot is burnt.05:14
Dar1usX thinks you only have 1 display05:14
majoridiotnite guys.05:14
Stemming78k, but some how both screens are displaying ---> just not correctly05:15
Stemming78you wish to see the xorg?05:15
Dar1uswell the video card is probably mirroring them automagically05:15
Dar1usbut that means you can only have 1 resolution..05:16
Stemming78so, If I were to remove the VGA mon, the video would go out?05:16
Dar1usyour LCD panel would have a native res, without it  it will look crappy05:16
Dar1usno I don't think that would happen05:16
Stemming78Here is my situation,  I dont want to reinstall again... Been doing that tooo many times...05:16
Dar1usI wasn't suggesting you reinstall..05:16
Stemming78This box is destined to be setup in my bedroom and be connected to the TV only.  If wireless goes down. I will need to be able to fix (cannot on a TV - resolution) so the LCD will be needed at that time.05:17
Stemming78Could have an xorg set to have both? or will I need to # fields not in use05:18
Dar1uscan you explain what the problem is now?05:18
Dar1usthe TV looks bad or the LCD looks bad?05:18
Stemming78Yah, that is why I dont wish to mess w/ the Xorg as everytime I do, I have to reinstall05:18
Stemming78Currently dpi looks good on both....   Mouse travels out of screen (btm, left, right)05:19
Stemming78Hence, resolution is no good (cutting off about an inch at each local).05:20
Dar1usodd05:20
Dar1uspress the auto button on your LCD?05:20
Dar1usI am not sure what knobs there are for tuning the TV out for epia05:20
Stemming78No change...  Xorg does not have any references to resolution05:21
Stemming78Think you can set the resolution from within xorg;  but I already tried this (wrong field) and crashed and burned...05:21
Stemming78I am covered in blood ATM05:22
Dar1usI dunno then sorry05:22
Stemming78bad wipeout05:22
Dar1usI don't have a problem with pressing ctrl-alt-f1 and editing the file directly..05:22
Stemming78huh?05:23
Dar1usnevermind..05:23
Stemming78still learning05:23
Dar1usi think you need to find someone with epia experiencce05:23
Stemming78Ok, well thanks for trying.../05:24
Stemming78Have a good evening....  Going to setup the wifi and take to the bedroom and watch some skin05:25
Stemming78;-)05:25
Dar1usheh cya05:25
MythbuntuGuest97is there a way to get rid of the bar with the application menu at the top of the screen?05:33
=== MythbuntuGuest86 is now known as JoshT76
JoshT76hello05:43
JoshT76has anyone experienced the desktop not filling the entire screen with an nvidia card?05:43
JoshT767950gt specificall05:43
JoshT76y05:44
JoshT76anyone here05:48
MythbuntuGuest97no one has said anything for a while, i asked how to get rid of the task bar from the top of the screen but no answer in a half hour or so05:50
JoshT76ok05:52
Stemming78MythbuntuGuest97: Are you seeing the app bar while in Myth?06:03
Stemming78JoshT76:  have you tried loading the proprietary driver in MCC06:04
MythbuntuGuest97yes im seeing it while in myth, which is annoying09:11
sebrockAfter I updated MythWeb music and video sections are not to be seen anymore?12:45
sebrocknot even from settings12:45
ahavehello room. anyone here have an antec fusion black 430 case with working IR receiver?15:07
rhpot1991I have a silver working15:07
ahavedid you have to do anything special to configure?15:08
ahaveand what remote do you have?15:09
rhpot1991one of the MCE usb2 models15:09
rhpot1991here is what I did: setup irmon vfd/lcd in MCC15:10
rhpot1991then run sudo /etc/init.d/lirc stop15:10
rhpot1991then go to your home directory and run sudo irrecord -d /dev/lirc0 lircd.conf15:11
ahavecould you explain how to setup irmon in MCC?15:11
rhpot1991follow that, do all your buttons, go twist the wheel15:11
rhpot1991ahave: MCC == mythbuntu control centre15:11
rhpot1991launch that, its on the IR tab15:11
ahaveright15:11
ahaveand i have selected a MCE driver15:11
ahavei am using a remote that came with a hauppauge pvr-50015:12
ahavei believe it to be a MCE remote15:12
ahaveperhaps i can selecting the wrong driver?15:13
zabadapprhpot1991: the VFD crashes after a few ir-codes from either my tv-remote (changing volume etc on the tv), or my hauppage remote (trying to get it to work with the built in ir-eye).15:14
EvilGuruahave: I think the pvr-500 remove is the same as the pvr-150 one15:14
ahaveEvilGuru, ok. so should i select a MCE driver or a hauppauge one?15:14
zabadapprhpot1991: lcdproc stops to function and dumps an error message to the syslog (about 10 lines per second)15:15
EvilGuruTry setting it as the 150 one15:15
EvilGuru(I would be more helpful, but my system is not booted up)15:15
zabadapprhpot1991: do you know what that could be? since you got it working :)15:15
ahaveEvilGuru, I only have 3 options under hauppauge... DVB-s card, Nova-T 500, and TV-card15:16
EvilGurutry tv card15:16
ahaveshould i generate dynamic button mapping?15:16
rhpot1991if you want it to work, select the imon VFD/LCD one15:17
rhpot1991then you can test your remotes by doing sudo cat /dev/lirc015:17
rhpot1991if garbage shows up, it can read your remote15:17
rhpot1991then you just need to irrecord to make your config15:17
rhpot1991gotta walk my dogs, I'll be back in a bit15:17
ahavei do not see the 'imon VFD/LCD' one15:18
ahavemy remote looks kinda like this... http://lirc.sourceforge.net/remotes/mceusb/PVR_500_MCE.jpg15:26
abarbacciawhat type of remotes do people use? i was debating getting something good15:28
directhexsony ps3 remote!15:29
abarbacciayeah? did u build a receiver15:30
directhexit's called "bluetooth". why build a receiver15:30
abarbacciai was unaware. so how did you get that to interface with lirc15:31
directhexi didn't. keyboard emulation.15:31
abarbacciainteresting approach. runs into problems though if you use more than one application like mythtv + xine + mplayer, right?15:32
directhexif the keyboard maps vary, yes15:32
directhexfortunately, i don't run more than one application15:32
abarbacciayeah - it would be interesting to see the direction of the lirc package as bluetooth becomes a more viable option15:32
abarbacciai think its going to be more of an interface daemon not just IR15:33
directhexlirc is a relic. it needs replacing from scratch15:33
abarbacciadirecthex i wouldn't say that. it's a very usable package15:33
directhexit's not remotely usable. compiling per-system kernel packages is not usable15:34
ahavei have my remotes setup so that I can read them, now how do i map the buttons to actions?15:34
abarbacciatrue, but what other choice do you have?15:35
abarbacciaahave: .lirc15:35
ahavedo i have to use irrecord?15:35
abarbacciado you have configuration files already15:35
ahaveidk15:35
abarbacciabecause there is a configuration file saying "this hex code = this button"15:35
ahavei think i found my remote here: http://lirc.sourceforge.net/remotes/mceusb/15:35
abarbacciadirecthex you have a good point. but it does get the job done15:35
abarbacciaahave: good. did you install that file, etc15:36
ahaveno i have not15:36
ahavecan you link me to a guide? or is just a simple copy15:36
ahavei could not find that file in the MCC15:36
abarbacciawhat ubuntu are you using?15:36
directhexabarbaccia, so did the 2.2 kernel, MKNOD, and XF86Config-4. but we've moved on since then15:36
ahave7.1015:37
abarbacciadirecthex agreed. i'm interested in seeing where its gonna go esp because more people are using remotes with computers, etc15:37
directhexi've seen snippets of code to handle remotes in dbus. i'll wait & see, i think15:37
ahaveabarbaccia, MCC claims to be using the mceusb config file15:37
abarbacciaahave: run "irw" and then push buttons on your remote - do you get output?15:37
ahaveabarbaccia, no i do not15:38
abarbacciaahave: run lsmod | grep lirc -- are the modules loaded?15:38
ahaveabarbaccia, but i do with cat /dev/lirc015:38
abarbacciaahave: you want to look at your /etc/lirc/hardware.conf file15:39
ahaveabarbaccia, lsmod | grep lirc -- leads me to think that modules are not loaded.. i only have information next to the last 3 lines, the frist 3 have the text '0'15:40
abarbacciaahave: you want to see what remote control file its defining. and look at the lircd process (ps aux | grep lircd) to make sure its loading the right now15:40
boritekHello i have just installed mythtv on ubuntu gutsy, and it says: no UPnP backends found15:40
abarbacciaahave: if they are listed, then they are loaded15:40
boritek if i click it further: another message: cannot login to database?15:40
abarbacciaboritek: you need to setup you db connection and dont worry about the uPNP right now15:41
boritekboritek, how can i do that?15:41
abarbacciadid you just ask youself?15:42
ahaveabarbaccia, what do i need to loof for in /etc/lirc/hardware.conf file15:42
abarbacciaahave: that's what defines how the driver is loaded - which modules and what arguments. is lircd running? (ps aux | grep lirc)15:43
ahaveabarbaccia, i get 2 lines outputed after (ps aux | grep lirc)15:43
ahaveone with root, the other with my username15:43
abarbacciaahave: well, you only need one running and it should be root15:44
abarbacciaso kill that other one15:44
ahavethe one as root is /usr/sbin/lircd--device=/dev/lirc015:44
boritekabarbaccia, how can i set up  the db connection?15:44
ahaveabarbaccia, is that correct?15:45
abarbacciaboritek: run mythtv-setup15:45
boriteki have already done that15:45
abarbacciaahave: is that the only argument that's being passed to it?15:45
boritekthat is when it tells the error15:45
boritekthat i mentioned above15:45
abarbacciaboritek: okay, there's a file somewhere that it reads for the initial connection. let me try to locate where it is15:46
ahaveabarbaccia, yes. i believe so.. let me see if i can post the output somewhere15:46
abarbacciaboritek: i can't seem to find it.... but theres a file somewhere that spells out the the initial connections15:47
abarbacciaboritek: its in /usr or /home i think15:47
boritekabarbaccia, /home/you/.mythtv/mysql.txt?15:48
ahaveabarbaccia, http://www.rafb.net/p/IjCxY979.html15:48
abarbacciaboritek: yes15:49
boritekok, what shal i do now,15:49
boritek?15:49
abarbacciaahave: that file is not loading the configuration file. it needs to be like "lircd --device=/dev/lirc0 /path/to/myremote.conf"15:50
abarbacciaboritek: make sure that has the correct information15:50
ahaveabarbaccia, ok. so i need to chanage that in the /etc/lirc/hardware/conf file?15:50
boritekabarbaccia, i dont know, coz i never used mysql earlier15:50
abarbacciaahave: that would be the best way15:50
boritekit came with the mythtv package15:50
abarbacciaboritek: sorry - i gotta run. but you gotta get mythtv what it needs to login to the database15:51
ahaveabarbaccia, is there another way?15:51
abarbacciaahave: you can test by just starting the daemon by yourself15:51
abarbacciaahave: i gotta run but you can just type "sudo lircd <arguments15:51
abarbaccia>"15:51
boriteki guess i have to setup mysql somehow first. but i dont know how15:52
abarbacciaboritek: it's all part of the game15:52
ahavedoes it just take the .conf as an argument?15:52
abarbacciaahave: man lircd - but yes15:53
ahaveabarbaccia, ok. thanks alot!15:53
boritekabarbaccia, is there a setup GUI for mysql?15:54
rhpot1991ahave: you don't have any imon in MCC?16:02
ahavecorrect16:02
rhpot1991you need imon for the onboard receiever if you choose mce it will look for an external usb dongle16:02
ahavehmm16:03
ahaveso why is imon not listed? and how can i add?16:03
rhpot1991are you actually seeing /dev/lirc0 when you choose mce?16:03
ahaveunder modules? or config?16:04
rhpot1991under /dev/lirc016:04
rhpot1991cd /dev/16:04
ahaveoh16:04
rhpot1991ls -la lirc*16:04
ahaveone sec16:04
ahavehttp://www.rafb.net/p/9OSXhO58.html16:06
rhpot1991if you sudo cat /dev/lirc016:06
rhpot1991and hit buttons on your remote does it show junk on the screen16:06
ahaveyup16:06
ahaveand with the knob16:07
rhpot1991ok, now run irw16:07
ahavebut if i run irw16:07
rhpot1991and see if anythign happens16:07
ahaveit does not16:07
ahavenothing16:07
rhpot1991what happens then just empyt, but it continues to run?16:07
ahaveit just sits there16:07
rhpot1991ok good16:07
rhpot1991do sudo /etc/init.d/lirc stop16:07
rhpot1991then go to your home dir and do sudo irrecord -d /dev/lirc0 lircd.conf16:08
rhpot1991follow that, do your buttons and knob16:08
rhpot1991then copy that to /etc/lirc16:08
rhpot1991then run mythbuntu-lircrc-generator16:08
rhpot1991then restart16:08
ahaveso i must remap my entire remote?16:08
ahaveis there not a config file already made/16:08
rhpot1991there might be, but its easier to just make one instead of messing with ones that may or may not work16:09
rhpot1991I can give you mine, but who knows if it has all the buttons, and who knows if it will work since I used lirc_imon16:09
rhpot1991it only takes like 5 minutes to map your buttons16:09
ahaveok, i will just do it then16:09
ahaveis there a guide on how to map?16:10
rhpot1991then you can go in and tweak .lircrc16:10
rhpot1991check your home dir for .lircrc16:10
rhpot1991I think in your version you don't have a .lirc folder yet16:10
ahavehmm16:11
ahavei see a lircd.conf16:11
ahavebut it is empty16:11
rhpot1991in your home directory?16:12
ahaveyes16:12
rhpot1991do you have a mythtv user on there?16:12
ahaveuse16:12
ahaveyes16:12
rhpot1991run this16:12
rhpot1991locate .lircrc16:12
rhpot1991and go check the places that points at16:12
ahavenot found16:12
rhpot1991whatever user runs the frontend, thats where you want to change it16:12
rhpot1991check /home/mythtv then16:13
rhpot1991there should be one right in the home dir, and one within the .mythtv directory inside that users home dir16:13
ahavemythtv has nothing in the folder16:13
rhpot1991.files are hidden16:13
ahaveoh16:13
rhpot1991do a ls -la .lir*16:13
ahaveok, i have one in mythtv16:14
rhpot1991check and see if there is one in your home dir as well16:15
rhpot1991if mlg makes one there you may need to copy it over16:15
rhpot1991or symlink the 216:15
ahavethere is not one in the home dir16:15
rhpot1991you *might* need to run mythbuntu-lircrc-generator as mythtv then16:16
rhpot1991sudo su mythtv16:16
rhpot1991will let you switch to them16:16
ahaveok, i ran it16:17
ahavei still need to map my button tho16:18
rhpot1991you need to do the irrecord first16:18
rhpot1991and move the lircd.conf into /etc/lirc16:18
ahaveso let me understand what i am doing..16:18
ahavei need to run irrecord to generate the lircd.conf?16:18
rhpot1991yep16:19
rhpot1991then move it to /etc/lirc/16:20
rhpot1991then run mlg16:20
rhpot1991then reboot16:20
ahavemlg being mythbuntu-lircrc-generator?16:20
ahaveas mythtv16:21
rhpot1991I'm not positive on that, but based on the fact its in your mythtv users dir I would do so16:21
ahaveok16:21
ahaveso what is the use of this file? http://lirc.sourceforge.net/remotes/mceusb/lircd.conf.mceusb16:22
rhpot1991if you had mceusb that would be fine and dandy16:23
rhpot1991but you have the IR in the antec fusion16:23
rhpot1991go buy a mce usb if you want to use that16:23
ahaveah, ok16:24
ahaveso it is a combonation of what IR i am using and the remote?16:24
ahave(which makes sense)16:24
rhpot1991yes16:24
rhpot1991and all that is is a file that someone made already16:25
rhpot1991you are just doing the same for your setup16:25
rhpot1991instead of downloading one16:25
ahaveok, i understand why i am using irrecord now16:25
ahavethanks16:25
ahavedo you know of a guide on how to use irrecord?16:25
rhpot1991first stop lirc16:27
rhpot1991sudo /etc/lirc.d/lirc stop16:27
rhpot1991then16:27
rhpot1991sudo irrecord -d /dev/lirc0 <name of config>16:27
rhpot1991and just follow what it tells you16:27
rhpot1991make sure you remember to do your knob16:27
rhpot1991I had to redo mine cause I kept forgetting it16:27
ahaveset the knob as volume?16:28
rhpot1991you just name buttons for now16:28
rhpot1991so name it knob_left and knob_right or something16:28
ahaveah, ok16:28
rhpot1991then you make that be volume in .lircrc later16:28
ahaveis modifying the .lircrc difficult?16:28
rhpot1991mythbuntu-lircrc-generator will do some of those for you, you will prob need to go in and modify if you named buttons oddly16:28
rhpot1991or make a copy of the volume for your knobs16:29
rhpot1991nope, its pretty easy, there is lots of documentation out there as well16:29
rhpot1991I gotta run, good luck16:29
ahavethanks!16:29
MythbuntuGuest97how do i keep the app bar from showing when myth is running?16:32
superm1MythbuntuGuest97, turn off compiz16:34
superm1or use something like devilspie to keep it on top16:34
TelnetMantaguys, how do I fix this? " Please set the environment variable HOME or MYTHCONFDIR"16:39
MythbuntuGuest97in mcc i have auto start mythtv standalone session upon boot, i didnt realize compiz was running, how do i disable it?16:43
superm1MythbuntuGuest97, well is this a normal mythbuntu install?16:47
superm1or what is this?16:47
superm1I was assuming that it wasn't16:47
superm1:)16:47
superm1TelnetManta, depends whne you are getting that16:47
MythbuntuGuest97yes it was, then upgraded to hardy, i had to fix some things like sound, then video was black and white, but no thats working16:47
superm1MythbuntuGuest97, well that shouldn't be happening then..16:48
superm1did you launch some other stuff at the same time as myth?16:48
superm1it usually should absolve itself16:48
MythbuntuGuest97no i havent done anything except select generic kernel and delete the 386 kernel because of sound issues16:49
mpontilloSo, I wanted to set up my mythbuntu machine to have an Xvnc display, :1. It went mostly OK, until I realized that mythfrontend gets started automatically on all X sessions.... really, I only want mythfrontend to run on my main display. As a workaround, I hacked this up in /usr/bin/mythfrontend: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6190/16:49
mpontilloCan anyone think of a better way to do this? I don't really want to be modifying that every upgrade...16:50
MythbuntuGuest97then unselected nvidias driver rebooted, then reselected nvidias driver to get color back again, but the app bar was ontop even before i did any of that16:50
mpontilloOr maybe a more 'supported' solution...16:50
superm1MythbuntuGuest97, if you close myth and open it back up,, does that still happen?16:50
MythbuntuGuest97just a minute let me check16:51
superm1mpontillo, hm16:51
superm1well it shouldn't autostart on all displays necessarily, depends on what session you log into i'd expect16:51
mpontilloah, right. it didn't start until I launched gnome-session16:51
mpontillostill, I guess for some reason I only expected it to launch with Xfce16:52
MythbuntuGuest97yeah the bar is still on top16:52
superm1mpontillo, well any session that obeys ~/.config/autostart rules will start it16:52
superm1it was done that way to be extensible if someone doesn't want Xfce16:52
superm1MythbuntuGuest97, hm interesting..16:53
superm1MythbuntuGuest97, well so as to rule it out, can you pastebin your process list?16:53
superm1lets see what's running16:53
superm1that might be interfering16:53
mpontillois there a use case for auto-starting it on a display other than :0.0, though? I mean, do people actually run mythfrontend on a remote display?16:53
MythbuntuGuest97ok, command?16:53
sebrocksince 0.21 and a mythweb update from rep. I cant see my music or videos in MythWeb... http://localhost/music tells me "An unknown module was specified"16:54
superm1MythbuntuGuest97, ps aux16:54
sebrockbut I have music in my /modules under mythweb16:54
sebrockany ideas?16:54
superm1mpontillo, well not everyone runs :0.0 as their primary display16:54
superm1say that you log out, and the session doesn't finish exiting by the time a new one starts16:54
superm1it will be on :1.0 then16:54
TelnetMantasuperm1: Im getting it when starting the backend16:55
superm1how?16:55
superm1via the init script?16:55
mpontilloAh, I have never seen it be anything except :0.0 on my system. I thought when you log out it kills and restarts the X server and it comes back on :016:55
superm1that's the goal when you log out16:55
superm1some drivers aren't so nice (i've seen it happen on both nvidia and fglrx)16:55
superm1so you can't make the assumption that someone is running on display :016:56
superm1also if you do a fast user switch16:56
mpontillogotcha. any other way to detect a local display?16:56
superm1the new user gets display :1.016:56
MythbuntuGuest97http://pastebin.com/m10ffda1116:56
MythbuntuGuest97thats cool, im never sure what i can copy and paste from vnc16:56
superm1MythbuntuGuest97, try ps aux | cat16:57
superm1instead16:57
superm1since  a lot got cut off16:57
superm1mpontillo, hm.16:57
mpontillosounds like the only thing I can do is set a DONTSTARTMYTH environment variable or similar in my script to start Xvnc, and check for that16:58
mpontillobut I'd still have to check in a wrapper script to avoid messing with the distributed mythfrontend script16:59
MythbuntuGuest97http://pastebin.com/m8befb8517:00
superm1mpontillo, try setting IGNORE_NOT to 117:01
superm1MythbuntuGuest97, you've got a bunch of gnome services on there too17:02
superm1that's a bit odd...17:02
superm1like tracker17:02
superm1and printer support17:02
superm1and power manager17:02
superm1is that intended?17:02
mpontilloha - IGNORE_NOT - nice hack. wonder why that's there. thanks, will try17:03
superm1IGNORE_NOT is in place for a bunch of user and group management checking17:03
MythbuntuGuest97after upgrading to hardy, ubuntu desktop was sellected in desktop role, i dont know why or even if it was before, i dont need it, its only a frontend, with no keyboard or anything attached, the only way i have to control it is ssh, vnc, irremote, and my nintendoDS17:04
MythbuntuGuest97can i deselect ubuntu desktop from destop role?17:05
superm1MythbuntuGuest97, it was selected during the upgrade!?.. That's Bad (TM)17:05
superm1MythbuntuGuest97, as a side note, you'll need to file a bug on that with /var/log/update-manager/*17:05
TelnetMantasuperm1: Should I set MYTHCONFDIR to /home/mythtv or /home/mythtv/.mythtv ????17:06
MythbuntuGuest97im not positive, i hadent done anything with it for 4-5 months so i dont remember if it was on there before or not17:06
superm1MythbuntuGuest97, you can unselect ubuntu desktop though yes, and then in synaptic a bunch should be 'autoremovable'17:06
superm1MythbuntuGuest97, well it shouldn't be turned on from an upgrade17:06
TelnetMantai tried the first and the backend still wont start17:06
superm1if it did, we have a big problem17:06
superm1TelnetManta, you still didn't respond to my question17:06
superm1how are you starting the backend17:06
TelnetMantadidnt see it sry17:06
TelnetMantavia an init script17:07
superm1okay so something like sudo /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend start17:07
superm1the home directory is set to /home/mythtv/ by default17:07
superm1it gets set in that init script17:07
TelnetMantasuperm1: I start it in my script like this: /usr/local/bin/mythbackend -d 2>$LOGDIR/mythbackend.err >$LOGDIR/mythbackend.log17:08
superm1TelnetManta, use the packaged init script17:08
superm1its got multiple workarounds for behavior like you are experiencing17:08
MythbuntuGuest97ok i have the synaptic package manager open, how do i go about 'autoremoving"?17:09
superm1MythbuntuGuest97, there is a filter or something similar in the left side17:10
superm1for "autoremovable"17:10
MythbuntuGuest97the buttons are (Sections, Status, Origin, Custom Filters, and Search Results)17:12
superm1yeah I forget which one has the autoremovable one17:12
MythbuntuGuest97then there is a scrolling list with lots of catagories but no autoremove in it17:12
superm1hm17:12
superm1the same one with the "local or obsolete"17:13
superm1is where it shows up17:13
MythbuntuGuest97ok status, has local or obsolete17:13
superm1but no auto removable...17:13
superm1hm17:13
TelnetMantasomehow I screwed the system up while trying to edit some chan numbers via mythweb.....17:14
MythbuntuGuest97the choices are (All, Installed(local or obsolete), installed(upgradable), Not installed, not installed(residual config)17:14
TelnetMantahow can I get the packaged init script without installing the whole package? remember my install is from source.17:14
superm1TelnetManta, i didn't remember that your install is from source17:18
superm1MythbuntuGuest97, then they aren't showing up as autoremovable17:18
superm1you can search for gnome stuff though17:19
superm1and start removing items like that17:19
superm1if it doesnt want to take out mythbuntu-desktop it should be safe to remove17:19
superm1TelnetManta, you should do your install from a local debuild if you want all the advantages of the package but the newer stuff by installing from source17:19
TelnetMantatx superm117:23
TelnetMantaI have some complications if you remember from waaay back17:23
TelnetMantaI have some patches that I have to run. I think I read online that theres been some patches made for the packaged version though but I havent tested it yet.17:24
mpontilloguess I shouldn't start pidgin on the X session I'm experimenting with. ;) Anyway, something sets IGNORE_NOT back to 0. So that hack doesn't work. =(17:25
MythbuntuGuest97how about gamin? can i remove it?17:26
MythbuntuGuest97it brings up a whole list of stuf its going to remove, xfdesktop4 is one of them17:27
MythbuntuGuest97maybe i shouldnt, thunar is one of them17:28
MythbuntuGuest97i probably shouldnt remove anything that will remove gdm either, eh?17:28
majoridiotFIREWIRE TESTERS NEEDED -- http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4608647#post4608647 -- please help out the community by testing the new firewire primer... your current mythtv installation will not be affected or changed in any way.17:35
superm1MythbuntuGuest97, anything that wants to remove mythbuntu-desktop , xfce stuff17:36
superm1gdm17:36
superm1no dont take out17:36
superm1but other stuff is fine17:36
superm1TelnetManta, well i'm saying you can apply your patches to the package's source17:36
superm1and build it into nice debs17:36
superm1mpontillo, hm17:37
mpontillowell, this worked: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6192/  (different modification from the dislpay check)17:41
sebrockwhats up with using sudo in the beta?17:42
sebrock"unable to resolve host: ubuntu"17:42
superm1sebrock, did you have a failed install?17:43
superm1or better yet17:43
superm1did you select vnc during install?17:43
superm1there was a bug with it....17:43
sebrockyes I installed vnc server17:43
superm1sebrock, there was a major  bug in it17:43
sebrockwhat kind of bug is tat?17:43
sebrocklol17:43
superm1that crashed the installer17:43
superm1and it didn't finish the rest of the install steps17:43
sebrockwell the installed didnt crash I think17:44
sebrockmm ok17:44
superm1it might not look like it did17:44
superm1but it crashes on VNC17:44
superm1if you can redo your install and *not* pick vnc17:44
sebrockso redo without vnc then17:44
superm1and just install it afterward17:44
superm1you should be fine17:44
sebrockok17:44
MythbuntuGuest97well im removing about 500meg of gnome stuff, hope i didnt accidently sellect something important, think the system will run a little faster after this? It seems is not able to decode as fast as it did before17:45
superm1MythbuntuGuest97, it should improve some.17:46
superm1MythbuntuGuest97, just so long as nothing xfce is picked17:46
superm1and nothing myth* is picked17:46
superm1you should be safe17:46
MythbuntuGuest97thats what i selected to keep, so i should be good17:46
superm1MythbuntuGuest97, you can also change your myth viewing profile17:47
MythbuntuGuest97by the way, i appreciate the help17:47
superm1to slim instead17:47
superm1that might help with decoding17:47
superm1no prob17:47
staind9383so my recordings won't play... not really sure when they stopped working, they were working a few days ago after i fixed my firewire stopped working issue17:51
mpontillosuperm1: well, I just looked at the ~/.config/autostart/mythtv.desktop file you mentioned. Might be an even simpler solution in there: there is an X-GNOME-Autostart-enabled=<boolean> line. If Xfce doesn't pay attention to that...!17:52
superm1haha17:52
superm1really?17:52
mpontillowe'll see ;)17:52
staind9383right now i select one and the screen blinks like it is giong to play video, but returns to the recordings screen instantly17:52
superm1firewire eh?17:53
superm1majoridiot, ^17:54
staind9383yea, he was helping me the other night17:54
majoridiotjes?17:54
staind9383i had to restart the cable box and the htpc in order to get everything up and functional again17:54
staind9383so i get back home today the box is not working17:54
* majoridiot remebers that, staind9383 17:54
majoridiotstaind9383, describe "not working"17:55
staind9383hah17:55
staind9383well17:55
staind9383live tv, not working, but recordings are not working either17:55
majoridiotso likely not a firewire issue then... or recording would play ok.17:55
staind9383again... this is out of nowhere.. i swear i didnt touch anything17:55
staind9383right17:56
staind9383these were all wroking before17:56
majoridiotok... standard rap: what are your frontend and backend logs showing when it errors?17:56
staind9383i have some good luck it seems17:56
* majoridiot remebers helping fix it17:56
staind9383first thing i checked when live tv didnt work was plugreport, etc, but that shows OK, and the firewire tester works17:57
mpontilloSweet - X-GNOME-Autostart-enabled=false did the trick! Xfce ignores it, so it does exactly what I want - start on my primary display but not my Xvnc display running gnome-session. Seems it's exactly the same as un-checking the "Enabled" box in System > Preferences > Sessions.17:57
mpontillo(which I would have done first, if I thought it would be specific to GNOME)17:58
majoridiotstaind9383, speaking of which, i need your help testing the new firewire primer ASAP.  i know it's a lot to ask, when yer box is outta whack, but it's critical time-wise and i PROMISE it will not hurt anything.17:58
staind9383as a matter of fact, live tv is working...17:58
staind9383so its only recorded tv now17:58
staind9383blah17:58
majoridiotstaind9383, but in the meantime, look @ your frontend and backend log for errors.17:58
staind9383ok, yea send me the script / insturctions17:58
majoridiotLOL17:58
majoridiotmaybe yer database wasn't up yer?17:59
majoridiotyet17:59
staind9383dont know17:59
staind9383i restarted the front end... looking throught htelogs now17:59
majoridiotstaind9383, well, at least it's back up now.17:59
staind93832008-03-29 13:58:21.873 AFD Error: avformat err(-1) on av_open_input_file call.17:59
majoridiotstaind9383: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4608647#post460864718:00
staind9383my handle on the forums is c3rb3rus... name was registered on IRC18:02
staind9383well freenode18:02
staind9383you know18:02
staind93832008-03-29 13:58:21.873 Couldn't open decoder for: /var/lib/mythtv/recordings/2750_20080329010000.mpg18:03
staind9383does not sound good18:03
majoridiotstaind9383,  does that recording exist and can you open it with mplayer?18:06
staind9383as i browse the items in the recordings screen i get these: 2008-03-29 14:06:14.202 NVP: Couldn't find a matching decoder for: /var/lib/mythtv/recordings/2750_20080329010000.mpg18:07
staind9383for each one18:07
staind9383-rw-r--r-- 1 mythtv mythtv  7791885036 2008-03-08 23:00 2740_20080308210000.mpg18:08
staind9383yea its there18:08
majoridiotplayable outside of myth?18:09
superm1mpontillo, could you document this somewhere useful for folks?18:10
superm1on one of the wikis perhaps18:10
superm1or in the FAQ18:10
mpontillosure, I'll see if I can find a good spot18:10
staind9383majoridiot: the show i was tryin to watch there does not play in mplayer... another recording that i know worked last week shows only green but i can hear sound...18:11
staind9383:-/18:11
majoridiothm.  now that is strange.18:12
majoridiotno auto updates or anything since the last time it worked?18:12
staind9383i dont think so18:13
majoridiothm.18:13
staind9383VLC does a similar thing on the vid files that i know worked.... only with NES style red / green alternate lines18:14
majoridiottry recording a minute or so of something and see if it will, and then if it will play back.18:14
majoridiothm.  if vlc does it, it makes me suspect the video driver.  vlc uses its own codecs, afaik.18:14
majoridiotare there any strange errors in your Xorg.0.log?18:15
staind9383what dir is that in?  /etc/X11?18:16
majoridiot/var/log/18:16
staind9383there are no timestamps, but it just looks like initialization to me18:17
majoridiotstaind9383, look for lines starting with EE and WW.  EE are the most important, as they are errors.18:20
staind9383none with EE18:21
staind9383one WW toward the end18:21
staind9383(WW) NVIDIA(0): Option "AddARGBVisuals" is not used18:21
staind9383and a few other warnings about vid modes not being used18:22
majoridiotwell, you can remove/comment out the "AddARGB..." line from your xorg.conf.  that much is apparent.18:25
majoridiotdid you try making a new recording and watching it?18:26
MythbuntuGuest97ok finished removing all those packages and rebooted, still have the app bar18:26
staind9383i was looking for the live tv snippet that i was watching before and couldn't find it18:27
staind9383and now i cant getback into live tv.. i see lots of scrambled colors tehn it exits saying error encountered while displaying video18:27
staind9383in the syslog i see lots of these from yesterday into today:18:27
staind9383Mar 28 07:17:01 gearbox /USR/SBIN/CRON[8235]: (root) CMD (   cd / && run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly)18:28
staind9383Mar 28 07:36:05 gearbox -- MARK --18:28
staind9383Mar 28 07:39:01 gearbox /USR/SBIN/CRON[8380]: (root) CMD (  [ -d /var/lib/php5 ] && find /var/lib/php5/ -type f -cmin +$(/usr/lib/php5/maxlifetime) -print0 |18:28
staind9383xargs -r -0 rm)18:28
staind9383and i saw a random segfault for mythfilldatabast18:28
superm1MythbuntuGuest97, lol18:28
superm1MythbuntuGuest97, i guess you can't win?18:28
superm1i'm not sure what else could be affecting that?18:29
superm1gnome-session particularly is gone right?18:29
MythbuntuGuest97just check for gnome-session in the package manager?18:30
superm1yah18:30
MythbuntuGuest97its not selected18:32
staind9383its like mythtv just does not want to stay functional for me... it has so much potential... :(18:32
superm1MythbuntuGuest97, hmmp18:32
superm1MythbuntuGuest97, well next solution i can say then -18:33
superm1blow away your changed settings for this user accnt18:33
superm1in ~/.config18:33
superm1and ~/.local18:33
superm1so swithc into .config18:33
superm1and look in Autostart18:33
superm1make sure nothing crazy there18:33
superm1and then remove the xfce directories from in there18:33
superm1it rebuilds them on boot18:33
MythbuntuGuest97sorry you lost me, what should i do?18:34
superm1cd ~/.config18:34
superm1and then ls Autostart18:34
superm1and then ls18:34
superm1and see what's around18:34
superm1blow away anything but the .config/Autostart stuff18:34
staind9383so something is wrong with the codec that is rendering regular TV it seems... HD live tv plays ok... switching to a regular channel gives me sounds but messed up colors18:34
MythbuntuGuest97autostart has fusesmbnet.desktop and mythtv.desktop in it18:35
superm1take out the fuse one18:36
superm1that might just be it possibly :)18:36
MythbuntuGuest97how?18:36
MythbuntuGuest97i figured it out with rm18:37
superm1ya18:37
staind9383i'm tempted to reinstall all over again :-/18:38
MythbuntuGuest97config has (autostart, gtk-2.0, tracker, user-dirs.local, xfce4-session, compiz, Thunar, user-dirs.dir, and xfce4)18:38
superm1compiz?18:42
superm1interesting..18:42
superm1i didnt see it in your process list18:42
superm1is it installed/18:42
MythbuntuGuest97i think its one of the things i uninstalled, let me check18:44
superm1okay well nonetheless, you can blow away all those directories but the autostart18:44
superm1and then hit <ctrl><alt><backspace>18:44
superm1and let it log back in18:44
MythbuntuGuest97there are still some compiz stuff in synaptic i can remove them right?18:44
superm1urd18:44
superm1yes18:45
MythbuntuGuest97what is the command for removing directories?18:48
staind9383rmdir?18:49
MythbuntuGuest97thats it but doesnt work if there is anything in the directory18:50
majoridiotrm -rf /directory18:50
staind9383rm -R?18:50
majoridiotbut be careful with that.18:50
staind9383i'm tempted to rm -rf /18:50
staind9383stupid video not working18:50
staind9383haha18:51
MythbuntuGuest97maybe ill just use thunar so i dont screw something up18:51
majoridiotstaind9383, that'll fix everything... for good.  but not in a good way. ;)18:51
majoridiotMythbuntuGuest97, good idea.18:51
superm1when getting mythbuntu live disks built one of the first steps is to cleanup the directory,v well i mis-set one of the variables, and it accidently did rm -rf /18:51
superm1when it should have done18:51
superm1rm -rf $DIRECTORY/18:51
superm1yeah oops.18:51
majoridiotMythbuntuGuest97, it's a good idea to go with what you feel safe with.  you may need to sudo thunar for files/dirs you need permission for.18:52
MythbuntuGuest97ok how about the two files, user-dirs.dirs and user-dirs.local? should i remove them as well?18:52
staind9383yea, that might be a prob18:52
staind9383what is thunar?18:52
majoridiotMythbuntuGuest97, sudo thunar will run as root and allow deletion of files you do not have permissions for.18:52
MythbuntuGuest97i have permission for stuff in ~18:53
majoridiotthunar is the file manager mythbunu installs default18:53
majoridiotMythbuntuGuest97, probably not for everything- including mostly the hidden system files.18:53
MythbuntuGuest97well it worked this time, so thats all that matters, what about the two files superm1? do i delete them as well?18:54
staind9383so i think taht soemthing got corrupted with whatever codec is doing standard def video... or just video in general.. i just played one of the media files on another comp just fine18:54
majoridiotthe newest binary for mythprime is posted if anyone cares to try it: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4608647#post460864718:54
superm1MythbuntuGuest97, which worked?18:55
superm1deleting which particularly?18:55
MythbuntuGuest97i mean that i was able to delete in thunar without sudo18:55
MythbuntuGuest97so you want me to delete the two files as well and leave just the autostart directory in ,config?18:56
superm1so just delete anything but the autostart18:57
superm1in .config18:57
MythbuntuGuest97no im not sure, will ctrl + alt + backspace work in vnc or will it just restart the computer im on?18:58
MythbuntuGuest97um, i mean NOW im not sure18:58
MythbuntuGuest97ill just reboot, no confusion then18:59
majoridiotMythbuntuGuest97-18:59
majoridiotopen a terminal on the remote computer-19:00
majoridiotsudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart19:00
majoridiotto restart the X server, et.al.19:00
staind9383majoridiot: dumb question... what flags whould i use on the tar command to extract.. i can never remember19:01
majoridiotshould just be able to double-click it in thunar19:01
staind9383no dice, says unknown application19:02
* majoridiot will add the untar commands to the post in a minute...19:02
staind9383open with rather19:02
majoridiottar xvf <filename>19:03
mishehudoes anybody know what the preferred mode for the ati remote wonder would be?  should I use the kernel /dev/input drivers or should I use lirc_atiusb?19:05
majoridiotmishehu, have you looked at this thread? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=60312019:08
staind9383sooo when i try to run the file it tells me no such file or directory... even though i am in the right directory, and the file has the right permissions.... I fee like i'm going nuts19:09
MythbuntuGuest97the app bar is still there19:12
majoridiotstaind9383, no such file doing what?19:12
staind9383sean@gearbox:~$ ./mythprime -v19:12
staind9383-bash: ./mythprime: No such file or directory19:12
mishehumajoridiot: I have not, but am now.  though I don't know if I should be trusting anything a majoridiot says ;-)19:12
majoridiotmishehu, wise to be cautious ;)19:13
staind9383majoridiot: did you ever get my email?19:13
majoridiotstaind9383, ls -l ./mythprime from the directory it is in.  what is the result?19:13
staind9383-rwxr-xr-x 1 sean sean 14788 2008-03-29 13:24 ./mythprime19:14
majoridiotstaind9383, yes i did, thank you.19:14
staind9383-la, but same difference19:14
majoridiothm.  and ./mythprime -h does what?19:14
mishehualright, off to see if forcing the tvformat for this POS fglrx driver will get me some *colors* on my tv display.19:15
staind9383mishehu: colors are overrated...19:15
* mishehu pees on ATI's crappy ass linux support. Also, prays to the gawds of computing to allow the winds to favor radeonhd...19:15
mishehustaind9383: sure, if you're a dog or some other colorblind creature ;-)19:15
staind9383mishehu: if you like, we can switch, i get nintendo style green / ren plaid screens now19:16
mishehuit'd be funny if parrots were colorblind.19:16
mishehustaind9383: oh, you mean the "blow out the cartridge screens" ?19:16
Aquahallicafternoon folks19:16
staind9383yea19:16
staind9383majoridiot: still no such file or directory19:16
mishehustaind9383: damn we're old man.  today's kids have no knowledge of how hard we had it with the old NES19:17
Aquahallicwhen ripping a dvd can you go straight to an AVI file????19:17
mishehumy old NES played games better when I *didn't* push them down, only slid them in.19:17
staind9383mishehu: never have to blow on a DVD do they19:17
majoridiotstaind9383, ok... from a terminal, run thunar19:17
mishehustaind9383: or smack a DVD around at all either19:17
MythbuntuGuest97i have to blow on my nintendoDS sholder buttons to get them to work sometimes, does that count?19:17
majoridiotstaind9383,  then, navigate to the directory with the new mythprime and double-click to run it.  see what the output in the terminal is.19:18
mishehuMythbuntuGuest97: not quite, youngin!19:18
mishehuback in my day we didn't even have DS19:18
mishehuand we were HAPPY19:18
MythbuntuGuest97im 28, just underprivelaged as a child19:18
mishehuheh19:18
staind9383majoridiot: failed to execute mythprime19:18
mishehuMythbuntuGuest97: 2 more years to the grave for you!19:18
staind9383same error, no sich file or dir19:18
staind9383such19:18
mishehuI'm hoping that NTSC-M is for north america, otherwise this is going to be a fun day of "guess the NTSC format"!19:19
majoridiotsec.19:19
staind9383majoridiot: is there something just completely f'd with my system?19:19
majoridiothm.  just downloaded and unpacked it again (tested it before posting) and everything works fine here.19:20
MythbuntuGuest97well i have the app bar set to autohide , i guess ill just have to be happy with that19:20
majoridiotmishehu, NTSC-M is north americs19:21
majoridiotamerica19:21
majoridiotstaind9383, send me your email address and i will send you the source and instructions on how to compile.19:22
mishehufsck, still no color19:28
ajhmishehu, don't worry too much, even if you got colour with NTSC it wouldn't be the right ones.19:33
* majoridiot diplomatically recommends nvidia cards19:34
staind9383anyone know the proper use ofthe scp command?19:35
mpontillostaind9383: what are you trying to do?19:35
majoridiotstain man scp19:35
staind9383copy a file from one server to another19:35
mishehumajoridiot: doesn't help if it's an onboard chipset, and the machine is in a chassis that requires half-height cards.19:36
ajhuse sftp if you're unabld to figure out cp. :)19:36
mpontillouse it just like cp, but add user@host before each filename19:36
mpontillosorry, user@host:<filename>19:36
staind9383isee19:36
mpontillo*each remote filename19:36
mishehuhmm looks like mythbuntu has a rather old fglrx on it19:37
majoridiotbut essentially: scp <source file> user@ip.address.of.target:/target/directory or scp user@ip.address.of.target:/target/directory /file /local/path/to/copy/to19:37
staind9383gotcha19:38
mpontilloSomething up with the wiki? http://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV fails to load for me. Strangely, http://help.ubuntu.com/ works fine...19:39
mpontilloscratch that - works in Linux/Firefox for me, but not Windows/Firefox... wonder if it's just me?19:41
Aquahallicfolks... during a rip of a dvd to a local file... my rip just dies.. where can I find the log for archiving??? I've looked in the frontend log and see nothing there.....19:44
staind9383majoridiot: i tried dling that file and upzipping in a VM version of 8.04 i have on my xp box and i get al error related to the app19:44
staind9383so it seems like something is completely wrong with this htpc19:44
majoridiotstaind9383, it looks that way. :(19:44
majoridiotAquahallic, look in the backend log?19:45
staind9383i dont know what the hell happened,... but if mythtv is gonna be a serious option for me i think that i need to learn a little more about how to manage a linux install / administer the system.. i cant just have it stop workign all of a suddfen on me19:45
majoridiotstaind9383, it's really odd that it just stopped working all of the sudden and for no reason.19:46
mpontilloAquahallic: for me it's in the frontend log; if I do a 'grep libdvd /var/log/mythtv/*' I get some information19:46
Aquahallichmmm... k.. lemme look...:)19:46
Aquahallicty19:47
staind9383i scheduled some recordings via mythweb, but i didnt change any settings there19:47
staind9383whens 8.04 come out19:47
* majoridiot just downloaded and unpacked the binary on a windoze box, scp'd it to a mythbox and all is well in the garden on this end.19:48
* staind9383 is going to reinstall and update to current right away before setting evcerything up19:49
=== staind9383 is now known as c3rb3rus5
c3rb3rus5to better match what i am in the forum19:50
Aquahallicwell.. I see the log there.. but I can't tell what's going on...19:51
c3rb3rus5so should i install the 7.10 mythbuntu then update to .21, or install the latest beta / alpha of 8.0419:52
* majoridiot recommends a fresh 8.04 beta, if you are reinstalling19:52
mpontilloAquahallic: what do you mean by "just dies"? does it start and then die, or does it never start? I think I had to set a pathname to rip to somewhere before it would work... can't recall exactly though19:52
majoridiotthat way you are sure there should be no package probs... i.e. mythvideo/mythdvd etc.19:53
Aquahallicit starts... goes for a while.. then just exits out19:53
AquahallicI've pathed it out to my backend share for where to rip it19:53
AquahallicI can see it starting to put the file in the folder I've specified19:54
mpontilloah. well, did you try a different DVD? not sure how you would tell if it's getting I/O errors reading from the drive...19:54
Aquahallicyeah.. that's what I'm wondering.. I'm trying another one now19:55
Aquahallicthat one had some scratches on it19:55
mpontilloany clues in dmesg or /var/log/syslog?19:56
grytpypeq for the group...  I have a new mythbuntu box, everything works except when I try to view video on either my PVR or Firewire cards, it fails after about 2 seconds.19:57
grytpypeThe PVR shows DMA TIMEOUT errors, the Firewire just fails.19:57
grytpypeI have a VIA chipset which was probably a mistake.19:57
c3rb3rus5grytpype: does firewire prime right?19:57
grytpypeIs there a way to turn off DMA for those cards?  Or should I just get a new mobo with an NVIDIA chipset?19:58
grytpypeyes, it primes.19:58
grytpypeWith the firewire, plugreport and firewire_tester are 100% successful, and test-mpeg2 works.19:58
grytpypebut when I try to stream video from either the firewire or PVR card, it fails after 2 sec.19:59
majoridiot'lo grytpype :)19:59
grytpypehey majoridiot20:00
grytpypei will pm you my email address... am going out for the evening so the test might be on sunday for me20:00
c3rb3rus5majoridiot: it seems like one vid file is screwing me up... after it shows nothing works again... on a fresh restart things work20:00
c3rb3rus5except that mythprime file... that is still not found20:01
majoridiotc3rb3rus5, maybe try uninstalling and reinstalling the proprietary vid driver?20:01
majoridiotgrytpype, thank you.20:01
Aquahallicmpontillo: Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 86081720:03
Aquahallicwhat's the sr0 device??20:03
Aquahallicgetting this error while ripping a dvd... Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 86081720:04
mpontilloAquahallic: Wasn't sure myself: http://aplawrence.com/Bofcusm/1827.html -- "SCSI CD-ROM 0"20:04
mpontilloSounds like you've narrowed it down between the DVD (too scratched?) and the drive (can't read DVDs in general)20:04
Aquahallicyeah.. that dvd was TORCHED.. Kids movie.. I'm trying to rip 'em to an AVI so they can just select them from the videos on myth.. so they CAN'T scratch them...LOL20:05
mpontillobummer. yeah, my son is 4 weeks old and I've already started ripping kids movies - I've seen how kids handle DVDs!!20:07
majoridiotsr0 is generally a sata cd/dvd20:08
Aquahallicwow... I just did a hdparm -t on my cdrom drive....  Timing buffered disk reads:   10 MB in  3.24 seconds =   3.08 MB/sec20:24
Aquahallicthat's pretty slow isn't it????20:24
mishehuok, I think I just revealed that my problem with the video out on my system is *not* due to the crappy ass fglrx drivers...20:27
EvilGuruAquahallic: 1x is 150kb/s20:27
mishehueven when I boot up and go into the bios, it's black and white.20:27
EvilGuruSo around 20x speed, seems reasonable20:27
mpontillomy DVD drive works fine and got: Timing buffered disk reads:    6 MB in  3.08 seconds =   1.95 MB/sec20:27
EvilGuruIt depends where it starts reading from, the outer sectors will be a lot faster20:28
Aquahallicyeah20:28
EvilGuru1.95mb is quite slow for a DVD20:28
Aquahallicthis thing keeps bombing ripping dvds with IO errors20:28
mpontillotried it again, (presumably after the drive already spun up, it's in the other room) and it's faster: Timing buffered disk reads:    8 MB in  3.40 seconds =   2.35 MB/sec20:29
EvilGuruMy okay-ish drive with cheap media can burn at 8x (10 MB/s)20:29
EvilGuruIs the quality of S-Video (for TV out) much better than that of composite?21:20
mpontilloEvilGuru: yes, I have noticed a *huge* difference between the two.. YMMV21:24
EvilGuruAs currently I have my PAL-I TV at 1024x768 and while it is not bad, it is not crisp21:25
EvilGuruso I was considering getting an S-Video => SCART and connecting it that wat21:25
c3rb3rus5sooo if i reinstall mythbuntu.. is there a way to save the recordings that I have now?22:10
mishehuc3rb3rus5: I'm sure there are, but it all depends on how your mythtv is set up on your network.22:15
c3rb3rus5one box, both backend and front22:15
mishehuand database?22:16
c3rb3rus5same box22:17
c3rb3rus5yea22:17
mishehuthat's a bit trickier then.22:17
mishehuyou'd need to do the following:22:17
mishehu1.  make a dump of mythconverg database with mysqldump22:18
mishehu2.  Copy that dump and all recording files to a removable drive.22:18
mishehu3.  Reinstall mythbuntu, get it working again22:18
mishehu3.  Restore the files to the recordings directory22:18
mishehuoops that's 422:18
c3rb3rus5haha22:18
c3rb3rus5well22:18
mishehu5.  Restore the database from the dump22:18
c3rb3rus5what if i have /var/lib as its own partition22:19
c3rb3rus5wil that work?  just backup the db to there?22:19
mishehuc3rb3rus5: sure.  you just have to make sure you don't do any oopsies like repartition or have it reformat that partition22:19
mishehuheh22:19
c3rb3rus5i think that you might not be able to set /var/lib as a mount point without reformatting...22:19
c3rb3rus5think tiat i might have tried somehting similar last time22:20
mishehuthen you'll want to do steps 2 and 322:20
mishehudammit mythbuntu already has a group 103 in use.22:22
mishehuklog.22:22
mishehuscrews up my samba server access...22:22
exec87hi, i'm using mythbuntu, and i dont get the VNC working... i'm activating it in the mythbuntu control, setting the pw... pushing apply22:51
exec87and nothing happens... when i start the config the next time its disabled again22:51
EvilGuruIf PAL has a resolution of 768x578 how can the nvidia driver output 1024x768 to my PAL tv22:52
ajhHey, anyone know offhand where the font size for the setup menu text is stored?23:23
exec87can anyone give me his first line from ist etc/apt/source.list ?23:24
exec87the one with the cdrom?23:24
sebrockI'm having trouble installing a LCDproc from cvs... when I try ./autogen I get a message about AC_PROG_LIBTOOL and it just exits23:26
sebrockso I cant create a makefile23:26
ahavehello room, can anyone tell me if this optical drive is supported in linux?   GGC-H20L23:48
ahaveit is the LG bluray/HD dvd drive23:48
exec87ahrg :(23:49
exec87damn VNC23:49

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