[00:02] <zabadapp> zorglups2: is it green for all resolutions (800x600 and so on), or just for the res for the 42" ?
[00:04] <zabadapp> and remember that the color temperature is different for a tv than for a monitor ...
[00:04] <zorglups2> Well, I tried a few and even during the boot, the 'white' text turns green. I guess this is not really an xorg matter
[00:05] <zorglups2> In my TV setup page, I checked for the color temperature... This was set to default. I tried the 'warm' and 'cold' but this did not change much.
[00:07] <zorglups2> A few monthes ago, I did connect my laptop to the TV and did not see this problem.
[00:07] <zorglups2> My laptop run's WinXP...
[00:07] <zorglups2> I should try again but would need to reboot (after having connected the TV) and can't do that now.
[00:08] <zabadapp> as a workaround, can't you get the colors right if you adjust them? (on the computer ... X server color correction in nvidia-settings if you have such a card ... )
[00:10] <Dboy> I have this usb tuner card... made in taiwan but it has a phillips chipset.
[00:10] <Dboy> Shouldn't it work with myth
[00:10] <Dboy> ?
[00:10] <Dboy> I've downloaded the myth packages, but somehow I think I am missing something because it doesn't seem to recognize the usb tuner
[00:11] <zorglups2> zabadapp: I should check but need to invest a bit in understanding those graphical stuffs in Linux. I feel soo stupid there...
[00:11] <zorglups2> zabadapp: What I tried was playing with those RGB settings on the tv set. I did not find any suitable setting yet.
[00:11] <Rigolo> Dboy: did you take a look at linuxtv.org to see if it is supported by their drivers?
[00:12] <zorglups2> zabadapp: The strange thing is that I don't have such a green cast with the laptop.
[00:12] <zabadapp> zorglups2: i agree it's strange ... what graphics card is it?
[00:13] <Rigolo> Dboy: the kernel modules for v4l are coming from the linuxtv.org site also
[00:15] <zorglups2> zabadapp: The MoBo is the Intel D201GLY2 an has a SiS chipset. The Laptop (XP) has an ATI video controller.
[00:15] <zorglups2> zabadapp: Both work fine with the 22" LCD but the "green" issue only happens when connecting the Intel Mobo to the TV.
[00:15] <Rigolo> zorglups2: same cables in both cases?
[00:15] <zorglups2> Yes :-( I tried another cable as well...
[00:16] <Rigolo> zorglups2: and did you had it working with a "plain vanilla" ubunut live cd for example?
[00:18] <zorglups2> I will go reboot my XP laptop connected to the TV and make sure I don't see this green problem (last time I tried was a few monthes ago).
[00:18] <zorglups2> The live cd was my next idea as well. I planned using a GeexBox or something I have on CD already.
[00:18] <Rigolo> zorglups2: see what happens when you boot your pc connected to the 42" and then boot your live cd
[00:19] <zorglups2> I will give it a try now. Thanks anyway for your support... I'll let you know.
[00:19] <Rigolo> zorglups2: I prefer ubuntu live cd's .. or knoppix or something like that .. with hardware detection for screens
[00:19] <Rigolo> 01:19 here ... time to go the bed soon :-)
[00:19] <zorglups2> here too  ;-)
[00:19] <zabadapp> here too :-D
[00:19] <zorglups2> From Namur (Belgium)
[00:19] <Rigolo> .nl
[00:19] <zabadapp> sweden
[00:20] <zorglups2> So I guess you won't be there when I'll post my result. Have nice dreams...
[00:20]  * Rigolo is waiting for mythtv to finsih compiling ... want to test a patch for a bug
[00:21] <Rigolo> well ... I leave this window open most of the time :-)
[01:04] <alexvd> all  is irman still broken in current build of mythbuntu
[01:04] <alexvd> that is the lirc version that is included
[01:06] <majoridiot> if there is anyone using firewire with a Scientific Atlanta cable box or other cable box that requires p2p priming, please pm me... testers are needed for a new version of the firewire primer.  **will not require any changes to your configuration!!**
[01:25] <javatexan> man am I bummed
[01:25] <javatexan> I can't work on my plugin for a couple of weeks because of work... :(
[01:27] <majoridiot> javatexan, what is you plugin?
[01:34] <javatexan> its super top secret, but it will be very very cool when I am finished :)
[01:38] <zabadapp> give us a hint at least
[01:39] <javatexan> i cant...but its a bummer that I cant work on it for a while...
[01:43] <rhpot1991> I bet it involves tivo
[02:02] <ajh> with nvidia I'm getting 1/4 of the screen randomly showing the myth theme background and a progress bar, while watching tv, or in the guide, any ideas?
[02:02] <ajh> like bad X expose events, but that's probably not it :)
[02:17] <Stemming78> Hey guys --> I finally got my Remote Frontend Openchrome driver setup correctly (fresh install) and now I cannot watch LiveTV or Recordings  ---Frontend closes
[02:38] <javatexan> rhpot1991: you are so right
[02:38] <javatexan> :)
[02:39] <javatexan> yeah...it is prolly completely useless to most myth users
[02:40] <javatexan> who knows...right
[02:40] <rhpot1991> javatexan: I'm sure there are those who will appreciate it
[02:45] <javatexan> It's working now in script form...I am about to start the gui
[03:02] <rhpot1991> how are you doing the gui javatexan?
[03:12] <superm1> javatexan, super top secrete?
[03:12] <superm1> i like secrets
[03:12] <superm1> want to tell me?
[03:13] <superm1> rhpot1991, mythstream finally got backported today i think
[03:24] <rhpot1991> superm1: thats good to hear
[03:24] <rhpot1991> I'll check the FAQs and see if anything needs to be altered to indicate that
[03:38] <Dar1us> has anyone used ubuntu with JMicron RAID?
[03:38] <Dar1us> (successfully)
[03:57] <MythbuntuGuest04> i upgraded one of my frontends to hardy and the sound stoped i asked around and googled and finaly found that it was using a 386 kernel instead of the generic, so i followed to instructions to use the generic and remove the 386 one
[03:57] <MythbuntuGuest04> now the sound works
[03:58] <MythbuntuGuest04> but, my tv is black and white without color
[03:58] <MythbuntuGuest04> when i access it with vnc its color, so im sure its something with the video card, any ideas?
[04:08] <MythbuntuGuest04> anyone?
[04:12] <emja> anyone know where irexec starts from? I can't find it in /etc/ or in ~
[04:19] <emja> ok, bad question. in what startup script is irexec referenced?
[04:24] <majoridiot> emja-
[04:25] <majoridiot> put it in /etc/rc.local
[04:25] <emja> ?
[04:25] <emja> no. I'm asking where is it already?
[04:25] <majoridiot> irexec is not started by default
[04:25] <emja> realy?
[04:25] <emja> on my fresh mythbuntu build it *is* starting
[04:25] <majoridiot> so sudo edit your /etc/rc.local and add
[04:25] <majoridiot> irexec -d
[04:25] <majoridiot> before the exit 0
[04:26] <majoridiot> hm... ok.  must have been a new addition.
[04:26] <emja> sure, but it is already starting. I'm trying to find where so I can nuke it, then I can start it in my preferred location
[04:26] <majoridiot> emja, are you sure about it starting automatically?
[04:27] <emja> yep. If I reboot, it starts
[04:27] <majoridiot> i just check a fresh 8.04 install and it is not running
[04:27] <emja> If I kill it, then restart gdm, it also starts
[04:27] <emja> 7.10 here
[04:27] <majoridiot> doesn't run by default in my 7.10 either.
[04:28] <emja> weird
[04:28] <emja> very very weird
[04:29] <emja> something is starting it on login or when X/gdm starts
[04:29] <emja> not during boot. that much I've confirmed
[04:30] <Dar1us> emja: grep -r iexeced / :)
[04:30] <Dar1us> irexecd even
[04:30] <emja> :)
[04:30] <emja> yes, did that too
[04:30] <emja> hence my complete lack of folicular growth
[04:31] <Stemming78> majoridiot:  Finally got my remote frontend setup/ 3D enabled...  Have a problem watching TV or recordings --> Frontend crashes..
[04:31] <majoridiot> Stemming78, i saw your earlier post... successful misery.
[04:32] <majoridiot> Stemming78, just out of curiosity... why are you beating yer head against a wall to get 3D working on a pvr?
[04:32] <Stemming78> yah, quite the headache; but think the DRI problem I was experiencing was the worsk
[04:32] <Dar1us> majoridiot: awesome screensavers! :)
[04:32] <Stemming78> No, throwing the kids against the wall... Dont want to ruin the looks ;-)
[04:33]  * emja laughs
[04:33]  * majoridiot has no sympathy for eye-candy induced problems
[04:33] <majoridiot> :P
[04:34] <Stemming78> Must mention, I had to do another install after the last post;  screwed up the xorg once again and couldnt recover.
[04:34] <Stemming78> SO, the kids have been traumatized today!
[04:35] <Stemming78> Anyways, what do you think?  throw the box to the curb? or is there a reason for Frontend crashing....   Can play Videos
[04:36] <emja> Dar1us & majoridiot: found it; /usr/share/mythbuntu/session.sh
[04:39] <Stemming78> majoridiot:  was unable to get smooth video when watching TV or Recordings... Thats why I went 3D not to sure if it helped as I cannot get them to play...
[04:39] <majoridiot> 3D shouldn't have anything to do with video.
[04:40] <Stemming78> ahhh, well that was unnecessary work for me then....
[04:40] <Dar1us> well.. you can use open gl to scale & colour space convert
[04:40] <Stemming78> So, any ideas as to how to rectify the frontend crashing?
[04:41] <majoridiot> Dar1us, you *can*...
[04:41] <majoridiot> Stemming78, what kind of errors do you get in your logs when it crashes?
[04:41] <Dar1us> majoridiot: and it can be beneficial
[04:42] <majoridiot> Dar1us, if the driver cooperates... yes, it can.
[04:42] <Dar1us> majoridiot: yeah :)
[04:42] <Stemming78> 2008-03-28 22:29:47.164 VideoOutputXv: Desired video renderer 'ivtv' not available.
[04:42] <Stemming78> 			codec 'MPEG2' makes 'opengl,xv-blit,xshm,xlib,' available, using 'opengl' instead.
[04:42] <Stemming78> 2008-03-28 22:29:47.305 GLVid, Error: Fatal error
[04:42] <Stemming78> Sorry... should have pastebin
[04:44] <majoridiot> not for that.  not an abuse.
[04:45] <majoridiot> what are you using as a tuner?
[04:45] <Stemming78> Tuner is on the Backend --> PVR500
[04:46] <Dar1us> can anyone recommend a RAID1 card (cheap) that will work with ubunutu?
[04:46] <Dar1us> I'm allergic to reinstallin because of dead disks
[04:49] <Stemming78> majoridiot: Well, I disabled 3D (bs) and now Recordings are playing back smooth!!!
[04:50] <Stemming78> no crashes of course.  You have a minute for a small fav por favor?
[04:50] <majoridiot> well whut'cha know.
[04:50]  * majoridiot is crunched for time, atm... what's up?
[04:51] <Stemming78> Hey, but the video is smooth...
[04:51] <majoridiot> 'twas the point, no?
[04:51] <Stemming78> Xorg is my pitfall... Have it setup for TV, would like to implement LCD into it...   You up for the challenge?
[04:52] <Dar1us> do you have a dual head card?
[04:52] <Dar1us> well, what sort of card do you have?
[04:52] <Stemming78> The Epia has Composite and VGA output.  BIOS has TV and CRT settings...  Currently both TV and LCD are on, but resolutions are off....
[04:53]  * majoridiot is buried with the firewire primer atm... and just about out of steam.
[04:53] <Stemming78> Using the default xorg.conf
[04:53] <Stemming78> np major!
[04:54] <Dar1us> if X already groks them then you should be able to change res with xrandr or some gui tool
[04:58] <majoridiot> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4608647#post4608647
[04:59] <Stemming78> Dar1us: Tried the Display settings and that made it worse...  Not sure which display res is being used, but it seems as if it is for a widescreen
[04:59] <Stemming78> So, it works just doesnt feel completed.
[05:00] <Dar1us> odd
[05:00] <Dar1us> pastebin the output of xrandr?
[05:00] <Stemming78> var/log/?
[05:00] <Dar1us> xrandr --screen 1 --prop
[05:01] <Dar1us> and xrandr --screen 0 --prop
[05:01] <majoridiot> are you xrandr-ey, baby?
[05:03] <Stemming78> nothing shows on the screen.  Does it write to a log?
[05:04] <Dar1us> odd
[05:05] <Dar1us> it should dump what resolutions the displays can do
[05:05] <Stemming78> yah...   Actually, it didnt open a new line; just fashed then back to the same $ prompt
[05:06] <Dar1us> the output from my laptop looks like.. http://pastebin.ca/961779
[05:06] <majoridiot> Stemming78, try redirecting it to a log file?
[05:07] <Stemming78> Thank you...  did not have a space w/ between "screen 0"
[05:08] <Dar1us> ahh
[05:08] <Dar1us> learn to read :)
[05:08]  * majoridiot recommends the fine art of cut-and-paste to Stemming78 
[05:09] <Stemming78> I am on the Vista box, thanks idiot;  cannot run that command from a SSH session
[05:09] <Dar1us> ahh
[05:09] <Dar1us> well you could
[05:09] <Dar1us> log in locally and do xhost +
[05:09] <Dar1us> then inyour putty do
[05:09] <Dar1us> export DISPLAY=:0
[05:10]  * majoridiot runs before Stemming78's computer asplodes
[05:11] <Stemming78> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6182/
[05:11] <Stemming78> HAH
[05:12] <Dar1us> is that run locally?
[05:12] <Dar1us> or via putty?
[05:12] <Stemming78> local, but same output w/ putty
[05:12] <Stemming78> thanks for the command...  like that
[05:12] <Dar1us> well that says you onlyhave one screen
[05:13] <Dar1us> you could try xrandr -d :1 --prop too
[05:13] <Dar1us> ie xrandr -d :1 --prop
[05:13] <Stemming78> didnt like either command --- at help
[05:13] <Dar1us> pastebin what it says
[05:14] <Stemming78> Can't open display :1
[05:14] <Stemming78> xrandr -d :1 --prop
[05:14] <Dar1us> ok
[05:14]  * majoridiot is burnt.
[05:14] <Dar1us> X thinks you only have 1 display
[05:14] <majoridiot> nite guys.
[05:15] <Stemming78> k, but some how both screens are displaying ---> just not correctly
[05:15] <Stemming78> you wish to see the xorg?
[05:15] <Dar1us> well the video card is probably mirroring them automagically
[05:16] <Dar1us> but that means you can only have 1 resolution..
[05:16] <Stemming78> so, If I were to remove the VGA mon, the video would go out?
[05:16] <Dar1us> your LCD panel would have a native res, without it  it will look crappy
[05:16] <Dar1us> no I don't think that would happen
[05:16] <Stemming78> Here is my situation,  I dont want to reinstall again... Been doing that tooo many times...
[05:16] <Dar1us> I wasn't suggesting you reinstall..
[05:17] <Stemming78> This box is destined to be setup in my bedroom and be connected to the TV only.  If wireless goes down. I will need to be able to fix (cannot on a TV - resolution) so the LCD will be needed at that time.
[05:18] <Stemming78> Could have an xorg set to have both? or will I need to # fields not in use
[05:18] <Dar1us> can you explain what the problem is now?
[05:18] <Dar1us> the TV looks bad or the LCD looks bad?
[05:18] <Stemming78> Yah, that is why I dont wish to mess w/ the Xorg as everytime I do, I have to reinstall
[05:19] <Stemming78> Currently dpi looks good on both....   Mouse travels out of screen (btm, left, right)
[05:20] <Stemming78> Hence, resolution is no good (cutting off about an inch at each local).
[05:20] <Dar1us> odd
[05:20] <Dar1us> press the auto button on your LCD?
[05:20] <Dar1us> I am not sure what knobs there are for tuning the TV out for epia
[05:21] <Stemming78> No change...  Xorg does not have any references to resolution
[05:21] <Stemming78> Think you can set the resolution from within xorg;  but I already tried this (wrong field) and crashed and burned...
[05:22] <Stemming78> I am covered in blood ATM
[05:22] <Dar1us> I dunno then sorry
[05:22] <Stemming78> bad wipeout
[05:22] <Dar1us> I don't have a problem with pressing ctrl-alt-f1 and editing the file directly..
[05:23] <Stemming78> huh?
[05:23] <Dar1us> nevermind..
[05:23] <Stemming78> still learning
[05:23] <Dar1us> i think you need to find someone with epia experiencce
[05:24] <Stemming78> Ok, well thanks for trying.../
[05:25] <Stemming78> Have a good evening....  Going to setup the wifi and take to the bedroom and watch some skin
[05:25] <Stemming78> ;-)
[05:25] <Dar1us> heh cya
[05:33] <MythbuntuGuest97> is there a way to get rid of the bar with the application menu at the top of the screen?
[05:43] <JoshT76> hello
[05:43] <JoshT76> has anyone experienced the desktop not filling the entire screen with an nvidia card?
[05:43] <JoshT76> 7950gt specificall
[05:44] <JoshT76> y
[05:48] <JoshT76> anyone here
[05:50] <MythbuntuGuest97> no one has said anything for a while, i asked how to get rid of the task bar from the top of the screen but no answer in a half hour or so
[05:52] <JoshT76> ok
[06:03] <Stemming78> MythbuntuGuest97: Are you seeing the app bar while in Myth?
[06:04] <Stemming78> JoshT76:  have you tried loading the proprietary driver in MCC
[09:11] <MythbuntuGuest97> yes im seeing it while in myth, which is annoying
[12:45] <sebrock> After I updated MythWeb music and video sections are not to be seen anymore?
[12:45] <sebrock> not even from settings
[15:07] <ahave> hello room. anyone here have an antec fusion black 430 case with working IR receiver?
[15:07] <rhpot1991> I have a silver working
[15:08] <ahave> did you have to do anything special to configure?
[15:09] <ahave> and what remote do you have?
[15:09] <rhpot1991> one of the MCE usb2 models
[15:10] <rhpot1991> here is what I did: setup irmon vfd/lcd in MCC
[15:10] <rhpot1991> then run sudo /etc/init.d/lirc stop
[15:11] <rhpot1991> then go to your home directory and run sudo irrecord -d /dev/lirc0 lircd.conf
[15:11] <ahave> could you explain how to setup irmon in MCC?
[15:11] <rhpot1991> follow that, do all your buttons, go twist the wheel
[15:11] <rhpot1991> ahave: MCC == mythbuntu control centre
[15:11] <rhpot1991> launch that, its on the IR tab
[15:11] <ahave> right
[15:11] <ahave> and i have selected a MCE driver
[15:12] <ahave> i am using a remote that came with a hauppauge pvr-500
[15:12] <ahave> i believe it to be a MCE remote
[15:13] <ahave> perhaps i can selecting the wrong driver?
[15:14] <zabadapp> rhpot1991: the VFD crashes after a few ir-codes from either my tv-remote (changing volume etc on the tv), or my hauppage remote (trying to get it to work with the built in ir-eye).
[15:14] <EvilGuru> ahave: I think the pvr-500 remove is the same as the pvr-150 one
[15:14] <ahave> EvilGuru, ok. so should i select a MCE driver or a hauppauge one?
[15:15] <zabadapp> rhpot1991: lcdproc stops to function and dumps an error message to the syslog (about 10 lines per second)
[15:15] <EvilGuru> Try setting it as the 150 one
[15:15] <EvilGuru> (I would be more helpful, but my system is not booted up)
[15:15] <zabadapp> rhpot1991: do you know what that could be? since you got it working :)
[15:16] <ahave> EvilGuru, I only have 3 options under hauppauge... DVB-s card, Nova-T 500, and TV-card
[15:16] <EvilGuru> try tv card
[15:16] <ahave> should i generate dynamic button mapping?
[15:17] <rhpot1991> if you want it to work, select the imon VFD/LCD one
[15:17] <rhpot1991> then you can test your remotes by doing sudo cat /dev/lirc0
[15:17] <rhpot1991> if garbage shows up, it can read your remote
[15:17] <rhpot1991> then you just need to irrecord to make your config
[15:17] <rhpot1991> gotta walk my dogs, I'll be back in a bit
[15:18] <ahave> i do not see the 'imon VFD/LCD' one
[15:26] <ahave> my remote looks kinda like this... http://lirc.sourceforge.net/remotes/mceusb/PVR_500_MCE.jpg
[15:28] <abarbaccia> what type of remotes do people use? i was debating getting something good
[15:29] <directhex> sony ps3 remote!
[15:30] <abarbaccia> yeah? did u build a receiver
[15:30] <directhex> it's called "bluetooth". why build a receiver
[15:31] <abarbaccia> i was unaware. so how did you get that to interface with lirc
[15:31] <directhex> i didn't. keyboard emulation.
[15:32] <abarbaccia> interesting approach. runs into problems though if you use more than one application like mythtv + xine + mplayer, right?
[15:32] <directhex> if the keyboard maps vary, yes
[15:32] <directhex> fortunately, i don't run more than one application
[15:32] <abarbaccia> yeah - it would be interesting to see the direction of the lirc package as bluetooth becomes a more viable option
[15:33] <abarbaccia> i think its going to be more of an interface daemon not just IR
[15:33] <directhex> lirc is a relic. it needs replacing from scratch
[15:33] <abarbaccia> directhex i wouldn't say that. it's a very usable package
[15:34] <directhex> it's not remotely usable. compiling per-system kernel packages is not usable
[15:34] <ahave> i have my remotes setup so that I can read them, now how do i map the buttons to actions?
[15:35] <abarbaccia> true, but what other choice do you have?
[15:35] <abarbaccia> ahave: .lirc
[15:35] <ahave> do i have to use irrecord?
[15:35] <abarbaccia> do you have configuration files already
[15:35] <ahave> idk
[15:35] <abarbaccia> because there is a configuration file saying "this hex code = this button"
[15:35] <ahave> i think i found my remote here: http://lirc.sourceforge.net/remotes/mceusb/
[15:35] <abarbaccia> directhex you have a good point. but it does get the job done
[15:36] <abarbaccia> ahave: good. did you install that file, etc
[15:36] <ahave> no i have not
[15:36] <ahave> can you link me to a guide? or is just a simple copy
[15:36] <ahave> i could not find that file in the MCC
[15:36] <abarbaccia> what ubuntu are you using?
[15:36] <directhex> abarbaccia, so did the 2.2 kernel, MKNOD, and XF86Config-4. but we've moved on since then
[15:37] <ahave> 7.10
[15:37] <abarbaccia> directhex agreed. i'm interested in seeing where its gonna go esp because more people are using remotes with computers, etc
[15:37] <directhex> i've seen snippets of code to handle remotes in dbus. i'll wait & see, i think
[15:37] <ahave> abarbaccia, MCC claims to be using the mceusb config file
[15:37] <abarbaccia> ahave: run "irw" and then push buttons on your remote - do you get output?
[15:38] <ahave> abarbaccia, no i do not
[15:38] <abarbaccia> ahave: run lsmod | grep lirc -- are the modules loaded?
[15:38] <ahave> abarbaccia, but i do with cat /dev/lirc0
[15:39] <abarbaccia> ahave: you want to look at your /etc/lirc/hardware.conf file
[15:40] <ahave> abarbaccia, lsmod | grep lirc -- leads me to think that modules are not loaded.. i only have information next to the last 3 lines, the frist 3 have the text '0'
[15:40] <abarbaccia> ahave: you want to see what remote control file its defining. and look at the lircd process (ps aux | grep lircd) to make sure its loading the right now
[15:40] <boritek> Hello i have just installed mythtv on ubuntu gutsy, and it says: no UPnP backends found
[15:40] <abarbaccia> ahave: if they are listed, then they are loaded
[15:40] <boritek>  if i click it further: another message: cannot login to database?
[15:41] <abarbaccia> boritek: you need to setup you db connection and dont worry about the uPNP right now
[15:41] <boritek> boritek, how can i do that?
[15:42] <abarbaccia> did you just ask youself?
[15:42] <ahave> abarbaccia, what do i need to loof for in /etc/lirc/hardware.conf file
[15:43] <abarbaccia> ahave: that's what defines how the driver is loaded - which modules and what arguments. is lircd running? (ps aux | grep lirc)
[15:43] <ahave> abarbaccia, i get 2 lines outputed after (ps aux | grep lirc)
[15:43] <ahave> one with root, the other with my username
[15:44] <abarbaccia> ahave: well, you only need one running and it should be root
[15:44] <abarbaccia> so kill that other one
[15:44] <ahave> the one as root is /usr/sbin/lircd--device=/dev/lirc0
[15:44] <boritek> abarbaccia, how can i set up  the db connection?
[15:45] <ahave> abarbaccia, is that correct?
[15:45] <abarbaccia> boritek: run mythtv-setup
[15:45] <boritek> i have already done that
[15:45] <abarbaccia> ahave: is that the only argument that's being passed to it?
[15:45] <boritek> that is when it tells the error
[15:45] <boritek> that i mentioned above
[15:46] <abarbaccia> boritek: okay, there's a file somewhere that it reads for the initial connection. let me try to locate where it is
[15:46] <ahave> abarbaccia, yes. i believe so.. let me see if i can post the output somewhere
[15:47] <abarbaccia> boritek: i can't seem to find it.... but theres a file somewhere that spells out the the initial connections
[15:47] <abarbaccia> boritek: its in /usr or /home i think
[15:48] <boritek> abarbaccia, /home/you/.mythtv/mysql.txt?
[15:48] <ahave> abarbaccia, http://www.rafb.net/p/IjCxY979.html
[15:49] <abarbaccia> boritek: yes
[15:49] <boritek> ok, what shal i do now,
[15:49] <boritek> ?
[15:50] <abarbaccia> ahave: that file is not loading the configuration file. it needs to be like "lircd --device=/dev/lirc0 /path/to/myremote.conf"
[15:50] <abarbaccia> boritek: make sure that has the correct information
[15:50] <ahave> abarbaccia, ok. so i need to chanage that in the /etc/lirc/hardware/conf file?
[15:50] <boritek> abarbaccia, i dont know, coz i never used mysql earlier
[15:50] <abarbaccia> ahave: that would be the best way
[15:50] <boritek> it came with the mythtv package
[15:51] <abarbaccia> boritek: sorry - i gotta run. but you gotta get mythtv what it needs to login to the database
[15:51] <ahave> abarbaccia, is there another way?
[15:51] <abarbaccia> ahave: you can test by just starting the daemon by yourself
[15:51] <abarbaccia> ahave: i gotta run but you can just type "sudo lircd <arguments
[15:51] <abarbaccia> >"
[15:52] <boritek> i guess i have to setup mysql somehow first. but i dont know how
[15:52] <abarbaccia> boritek: it's all part of the game
[15:52] <ahave> does it just take the .conf as an argument?
[15:53] <abarbaccia> ahave: man lircd - but yes
[15:53] <ahave> abarbaccia, ok. thanks alot!
[15:54] <boritek> abarbaccia, is there a setup GUI for mysql?
[16:02] <rhpot1991> ahave: you don't have any imon in MCC?
[16:02] <ahave> correct
[16:02] <rhpot1991> you need imon for the onboard receiever if you choose mce it will look for an external usb dongle
[16:03] <ahave> hmm
[16:03] <ahave> so why is imon not listed? and how can i add?
[16:03] <rhpot1991> are you actually seeing /dev/lirc0 when you choose mce?
[16:04] <ahave> under modules? or config?
[16:04] <rhpot1991> under /dev/lirc0
[16:04] <rhpot1991> cd /dev/
[16:04] <ahave> oh
[16:04] <rhpot1991> ls -la lirc*
[16:04] <ahave> one sec
[16:06] <ahave> http://www.rafb.net/p/9OSXhO58.html
[16:06] <rhpot1991> if you sudo cat /dev/lirc0
[16:06] <rhpot1991> and hit buttons on your remote does it show junk on the screen
[16:06] <ahave> yup
[16:07] <ahave> and with the knob
[16:07] <rhpot1991> ok, now run irw
[16:07] <ahave> but if i run irw
[16:07] <rhpot1991> and see if anythign happens
[16:07] <ahave> it does not
[16:07] <ahave> nothing
[16:07] <rhpot1991> what happens then just empyt, but it continues to run?
[16:07] <ahave> it just sits there
[16:07] <rhpot1991> ok good
[16:07] <rhpot1991> do sudo /etc/init.d/lirc stop
[16:08] <rhpot1991> then go to your home dir and do sudo irrecord -d /dev/lirc0 lircd.conf
[16:08] <rhpot1991> follow that, do your buttons and knob
[16:08] <rhpot1991> then copy that to /etc/lirc
[16:08] <rhpot1991> then run mythbuntu-lircrc-generator
[16:08] <rhpot1991> then restart
[16:08] <ahave> so i must remap my entire remote?
[16:08] <ahave> is there not a config file already made/
[16:09] <rhpot1991> there might be, but its easier to just make one instead of messing with ones that may or may not work
[16:09] <rhpot1991> I can give you mine, but who knows if it has all the buttons, and who knows if it will work since I used lirc_imon
[16:09] <rhpot1991> it only takes like 5 minutes to map your buttons
[16:09] <ahave> ok, i will just do it then
[16:10] <ahave> is there a guide on how to map?
[16:10] <rhpot1991> then you can go in and tweak .lircrc
[16:10] <rhpot1991> check your home dir for .lircrc
[16:10] <rhpot1991> I think in your version you don't have a .lirc folder yet
[16:11] <ahave> hmm
[16:11] <ahave> i see a lircd.conf
[16:11] <ahave> but it is empty
[16:12] <rhpot1991> in your home directory?
[16:12] <ahave> yes
[16:12] <rhpot1991> do you have a mythtv user on there?
[16:12] <ahave> use
[16:12] <ahave> yes
[16:12] <rhpot1991> run this
[16:12] <rhpot1991> locate .lircrc
[16:12] <rhpot1991> and go check the places that points at
[16:12] <ahave> not found
[16:12] <rhpot1991> whatever user runs the frontend, thats where you want to change it
[16:13] <rhpot1991> check /home/mythtv then
[16:13] <rhpot1991> there should be one right in the home dir, and one within the .mythtv directory inside that users home dir
[16:13] <ahave> mythtv has nothing in the folder
[16:13] <rhpot1991> .files are hidden
[16:13] <ahave> oh
[16:13] <rhpot1991> do a ls -la .lir*
[16:14] <ahave> ok, i have one in mythtv
[16:15] <rhpot1991> check and see if there is one in your home dir as well
[16:15] <rhpot1991> if mlg makes one there you may need to copy it over
[16:15] <rhpot1991> or symlink the 2
[16:15] <ahave> there is not one in the home dir
[16:16] <rhpot1991> you *might* need to run mythbuntu-lircrc-generator as mythtv then
[16:16] <rhpot1991> sudo su mythtv
[16:16] <rhpot1991> will let you switch to them
[16:17] <ahave> ok, i ran it
[16:18] <ahave> i still need to map my button tho
[16:18] <rhpot1991> you need to do the irrecord first
[16:18] <rhpot1991> and move the lircd.conf into /etc/lirc
[16:18] <ahave> so let me understand what i am doing..
[16:18] <ahave> i need to run irrecord to generate the lircd.conf?
[16:19] <rhpot1991> yep
[16:20] <rhpot1991> then move it to /etc/lirc/
[16:20] <rhpot1991> then run mlg
[16:20] <rhpot1991> then reboot
[16:20] <ahave> mlg being mythbuntu-lircrc-generator?
[16:21] <ahave> as mythtv
[16:21] <rhpot1991> I'm not positive on that, but based on the fact its in your mythtv users dir I would do so
[16:21] <ahave> ok
[16:22] <ahave> so what is the use of this file? http://lirc.sourceforge.net/remotes/mceusb/lircd.conf.mceusb
[16:23] <rhpot1991> if you had mceusb that would be fine and dandy
[16:23] <rhpot1991> but you have the IR in the antec fusion
[16:23] <rhpot1991> go buy a mce usb if you want to use that
[16:24] <ahave> ah, ok
[16:24] <ahave> so it is a combonation of what IR i am using and the remote?
[16:24] <ahave> (which makes sense)
[16:24] <rhpot1991> yes
[16:25] <rhpot1991> and all that is is a file that someone made already
[16:25] <rhpot1991> you are just doing the same for your setup
[16:25] <rhpot1991> instead of downloading one
[16:25] <ahave> ok, i understand why i am using irrecord now
[16:25] <ahave> thanks
[16:25] <ahave> do you know of a guide on how to use irrecord?
[16:27] <rhpot1991> first stop lirc
[16:27] <rhpot1991> sudo /etc/lirc.d/lirc stop
[16:27] <rhpot1991> then
[16:27] <rhpot1991> sudo irrecord -d /dev/lirc0 <name of config>
[16:27] <rhpot1991> and just follow what it tells you
[16:27] <rhpot1991> make sure you remember to do your knob
[16:27] <rhpot1991> I had to redo mine cause I kept forgetting it
[16:28] <ahave> set the knob as volume?
[16:28] <rhpot1991> you just name buttons for now
[16:28] <rhpot1991> so name it knob_left and knob_right or something
[16:28] <ahave> ah, ok
[16:28] <rhpot1991> then you make that be volume in .lircrc later
[16:28] <ahave> is modifying the .lircrc difficult?
[16:28] <rhpot1991> mythbuntu-lircrc-generator will do some of those for you, you will prob need to go in and modify if you named buttons oddly
[16:29] <rhpot1991> or make a copy of the volume for your knobs
[16:29] <rhpot1991> nope, its pretty easy, there is lots of documentation out there as well
[16:29] <rhpot1991> I gotta run, good luck
[16:29] <ahave> thanks!
[16:32] <MythbuntuGuest97> how do i keep the app bar from showing when myth is running?
[16:34] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest97, turn off compiz
[16:34] <superm1> or use something like devilspie to keep it on top
[16:39] <TelnetManta> guys, how do I fix this? " Please set the environment variable HOME or MYTHCONFDIR"
[16:43] <MythbuntuGuest97> in mcc i have auto start mythtv standalone session upon boot, i didnt realize compiz was running, how do i disable it?
[16:47] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest97, well is this a normal mythbuntu install?
[16:47] <superm1> or what is this?
[16:47] <superm1> I was assuming that it wasn't
[16:47] <superm1> :)
[16:47] <superm1> TelnetManta, depends whne you are getting that
[16:47] <MythbuntuGuest97> yes it was, then upgraded to hardy, i had to fix some things like sound, then video was black and white, but no thats working
[16:48] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest97, well that shouldn't be happening then..
[16:48] <superm1> did you launch some other stuff at the same time as myth?
[16:48] <superm1> it usually should absolve itself
[16:49] <MythbuntuGuest97> no i havent done anything except select generic kernel and delete the 386 kernel because of sound issues
[16:49] <mpontillo> So, I wanted to set up my mythbuntu machine to have an Xvnc display, :1. It went mostly OK, until I realized that mythfrontend gets started automatically on all X sessions.... really, I only want mythfrontend to run on my main display. As a workaround, I hacked this up in /usr/bin/mythfrontend: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6190/
[16:50] <mpontillo> Can anyone think of a better way to do this? I don't really want to be modifying that every upgrade...
[16:50] <MythbuntuGuest97> then unselected nvidias driver rebooted, then reselected nvidias driver to get color back again, but the app bar was ontop even before i did any of that
[16:50] <mpontillo> Or maybe a more 'supported' solution...
[16:50] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest97, if you close myth and open it back up,, does that still happen?
[16:51] <MythbuntuGuest97> just a minute let me check
[16:51] <superm1> mpontillo, hm
[16:51] <superm1> well it shouldn't autostart on all displays necessarily, depends on what session you log into i'd expect
[16:51] <mpontillo> ah, right. it didn't start until I launched gnome-session
[16:52] <mpontillo> still, I guess for some reason I only expected it to launch with Xfce
[16:52] <MythbuntuGuest97> yeah the bar is still on top
[16:52] <superm1> mpontillo, well any session that obeys ~/.config/autostart rules will start it
[16:52] <superm1> it was done that way to be extensible if someone doesn't want Xfce
[16:53] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest97, hm interesting..
[16:53] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest97, well so as to rule it out, can you pastebin your process list?
[16:53] <superm1> lets see what's running
[16:53] <superm1> that might be interfering
[16:53] <mpontillo> is there a use case for auto-starting it on a display other than :0.0, though? I mean, do people actually run mythfrontend on a remote display?
[16:53] <MythbuntuGuest97> ok, command?
[16:54] <sebrock> since 0.21 and a mythweb update from rep. I cant see my music or videos in MythWeb... http://localhost/music tells me "An unknown module was specified"
[16:54] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest97, ps aux
[16:54] <sebrock> but I have music in my /modules under mythweb
[16:54] <sebrock> any ideas?
[16:54] <superm1> mpontillo, well not everyone runs :0.0 as their primary display
[16:54] <superm1> say that you log out, and the session doesn't finish exiting by the time a new one starts
[16:54] <superm1> it will be on :1.0 then
[16:55] <TelnetManta> superm1: Im getting it when starting the backend
[16:55] <superm1> how?
[16:55] <superm1> via the init script?
[16:55] <mpontillo> Ah, I have never seen it be anything except :0.0 on my system. I thought when you log out it kills and restarts the X server and it comes back on :0
[16:55] <superm1> that's the goal when you log out
[16:55] <superm1> some drivers aren't so nice (i've seen it happen on both nvidia and fglrx)
[16:56] <superm1> so you can't make the assumption that someone is running on display :0
[16:56] <superm1> also if you do a fast user switch
[16:56] <mpontillo> gotcha. any other way to detect a local display?
[16:56] <superm1> the new user gets display :1.0
[16:56] <MythbuntuGuest97> http://pastebin.com/m10ffda11
[16:56] <MythbuntuGuest97> thats cool, im never sure what i can copy and paste from vnc
[16:57] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest97, try ps aux | cat
[16:57] <superm1> instead
[16:57] <superm1> since  a lot got cut off
[16:57] <superm1> mpontillo, hm.
[16:58] <mpontillo> sounds like the only thing I can do is set a DONTSTARTMYTH environment variable or similar in my script to start Xvnc, and check for that
[16:59] <mpontillo> but I'd still have to check in a wrapper script to avoid messing with the distributed mythfrontend script
[17:00] <MythbuntuGuest97> http://pastebin.com/m8befb85
[17:01] <superm1> mpontillo, try setting IGNORE_NOT to 1
[17:02] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest97, you've got a bunch of gnome services on there too
[17:02] <superm1> that's a bit odd...
[17:02] <superm1> like tracker
[17:02] <superm1> and printer support
[17:02] <superm1> and power manager
[17:02] <superm1> is that intended?
[17:03] <mpontillo> ha - IGNORE_NOT - nice hack. wonder why that's there. thanks, will try
[17:03] <superm1> IGNORE_NOT is in place for a bunch of user and group management checking
[17:04] <MythbuntuGuest97> after upgrading to hardy, ubuntu desktop was sellected in desktop role, i dont know why or even if it was before, i dont need it, its only a frontend, with no keyboard or anything attached, the only way i have to control it is ssh, vnc, irremote, and my nintendoDS
[17:05] <MythbuntuGuest97> can i deselect ubuntu desktop from destop role?
[17:05] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest97, it was selected during the upgrade!?.. That's Bad (TM)
[17:05] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest97, as a side note, you'll need to file a bug on that with /var/log/update-manager/*
[17:06] <TelnetManta> superm1: Should I set MYTHCONFDIR to /home/mythtv or /home/mythtv/.mythtv ????
[17:06] <MythbuntuGuest97> im not positive, i hadent done anything with it for 4-5 months so i dont remember if it was on there before or not
[17:06] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest97, you can unselect ubuntu desktop though yes, and then in synaptic a bunch should be 'autoremovable'
[17:06] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest97, well it shouldn't be turned on from an upgrade
[17:06] <TelnetManta> i tried the first and the backend still wont start
[17:06] <superm1> if it did, we have a big problem
[17:06] <superm1> TelnetManta, you still didn't respond to my question
[17:06] <superm1> how are you starting the backend
[17:06] <TelnetManta> didnt see it sry
[17:07] <TelnetManta> via an init script
[17:07] <superm1> okay so something like sudo /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend start
[17:07] <superm1> the home directory is set to /home/mythtv/ by default
[17:07] <superm1> it gets set in that init script
[17:08] <TelnetManta> superm1: I start it in my script like this: /usr/local/bin/mythbackend -d 2>$LOGDIR/mythbackend.err >$LOGDIR/mythbackend.log
[17:08] <superm1> TelnetManta, use the packaged init script
[17:08] <superm1> its got multiple workarounds for behavior like you are experiencing
[17:09] <MythbuntuGuest97> ok i have the synaptic package manager open, how do i go about 'autoremoving"?
[17:10] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest97, there is a filter or something similar in the left side
[17:10] <superm1> for "autoremovable"
[17:12] <MythbuntuGuest97> the buttons are (Sections, Status, Origin, Custom Filters, and Search Results)
[17:12] <superm1> yeah I forget which one has the autoremovable one
[17:12] <MythbuntuGuest97> then there is a scrolling list with lots of catagories but no autoremove in it
[17:12] <superm1> hm
[17:13] <superm1> the same one with the "local or obsolete"
[17:13] <superm1> is where it shows up
[17:13] <MythbuntuGuest97> ok status, has local or obsolete
[17:13] <superm1> but no auto removable...
[17:13] <superm1> hm
[17:14] <TelnetManta> somehow I screwed the system up while trying to edit some chan numbers via mythweb.....
[17:14] <MythbuntuGuest97> the choices are (All, Installed(local or obsolete), installed(upgradable), Not installed, not installed(residual config)
[17:14] <TelnetManta> how can I get the packaged init script without installing the whole package? remember my install is from source.
[17:18] <superm1> TelnetManta, i didn't remember that your install is from source
[17:18] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest97, then they aren't showing up as autoremovable
[17:19] <superm1> you can search for gnome stuff though
[17:19] <superm1> and start removing items like that
[17:19] <superm1> if it doesnt want to take out mythbuntu-desktop it should be safe to remove
[17:19] <superm1> TelnetManta, you should do your install from a local debuild if you want all the advantages of the package but the newer stuff by installing from source
[17:23] <TelnetManta> tx superm1
[17:23] <TelnetManta> I have some complications if you remember from waaay back
[17:24] <TelnetManta> I have some patches that I have to run. I think I read online that theres been some patches made for the packaged version though but I havent tested it yet.
[17:25] <mpontillo> guess I shouldn't start pidgin on the X session I'm experimenting with. ;) Anyway, something sets IGNORE_NOT back to 0. So that hack doesn't work. =(
[17:26] <MythbuntuGuest97> how about gamin? can i remove it?
[17:27] <MythbuntuGuest97> it brings up a whole list of stuf its going to remove, xfdesktop4 is one of them
[17:28] <MythbuntuGuest97> maybe i shouldnt, thunar is one of them
[17:28] <MythbuntuGuest97> i probably shouldnt remove anything that will remove gdm either, eh?
[17:35] <majoridiot> FIREWIRE TESTERS NEEDED -- http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4608647#post4608647 -- please help out the community by testing the new firewire primer... your current mythtv installation will not be affected or changed in any way.
[17:36] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest97, anything that wants to remove mythbuntu-desktop , xfce stuff
[17:36] <superm1> gdm
[17:36] <superm1> no dont take out
[17:36] <superm1> but other stuff is fine
[17:36] <superm1> TelnetManta, well i'm saying you can apply your patches to the package's source
[17:36] <superm1> and build it into nice debs
[17:37] <superm1> mpontillo, hm
[17:41] <mpontillo> well, this worked: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6192/  (different modification from the dislpay check)
[17:42] <sebrock> whats up with using sudo in the beta?
[17:42] <sebrock> "unable to resolve host: ubuntu"
[17:43] <superm1> sebrock, did you have a failed install?
[17:43] <superm1> or better yet
[17:43] <superm1> did you select vnc during install?
[17:43] <superm1> there was a bug with it....
[17:43] <sebrock> yes I installed vnc server
[17:43] <superm1> sebrock, there was a major  bug in it
[17:43] <sebrock> what kind of bug is tat?
[17:43] <sebrock> lol
[17:43] <superm1> that crashed the installer
[17:43] <superm1> and it didn't finish the rest of the install steps
[17:44] <sebrock> well the installed didnt crash I think
[17:44] <sebrock> mm ok
[17:44] <superm1> it might not look like it did
[17:44] <superm1> but it crashes on VNC
[17:44] <superm1> if you can redo your install and *not* pick vnc
[17:44] <sebrock> so redo without vnc then
[17:44] <superm1> and just install it afterward
[17:44] <superm1> you should be fine
[17:44] <sebrock> ok
[17:45] <MythbuntuGuest97> well im removing about 500meg of gnome stuff, hope i didnt accidently sellect something important, think the system will run a little faster after this? It seems is not able to decode as fast as it did before
[17:46] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest97, it should improve some.
[17:46] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest97, just so long as nothing xfce is picked
[17:46] <superm1> and nothing myth* is picked
[17:46] <superm1> you should be safe
[17:46] <MythbuntuGuest97> thats what i selected to keep, so i should be good
[17:47] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest97, you can also change your myth viewing profile
[17:47] <MythbuntuGuest97> by the way, i appreciate the help
[17:47] <superm1> to slim instead
[17:47] <superm1> that might help with decoding
[17:47] <superm1> no prob
[17:51] <staind9383> so my recordings won't play... not really sure when they stopped working, they were working a few days ago after i fixed my firewire stopped working issue
[17:52] <mpontillo> superm1: well, I just looked at the ~/.config/autostart/mythtv.desktop file you mentioned. Might be an even simpler solution in there: there is an X-GNOME-Autostart-enabled=<boolean> line. If Xfce doesn't pay attention to that...!
[17:52] <superm1> haha
[17:52] <superm1> really?
[17:52] <mpontillo> we'll see ;)
[17:52] <staind9383> right now i select one and the screen blinks like it is giong to play video, but returns to the recordings screen instantly
[17:53] <superm1> firewire eh?
[17:54] <superm1> majoridiot, ^
[17:54] <staind9383> yea, he was helping me the other night
[17:54] <majoridiot> jes?
[17:54] <staind9383> i had to restart the cable box and the htpc in order to get everything up and functional again
[17:54] <staind9383> so i get back home today the box is not working
[17:54]  * majoridiot remebers that, staind9383 
[17:55] <majoridiot> staind9383, describe "not working"
[17:55] <staind9383> hah
[17:55] <staind9383> well
[17:55] <staind9383> live tv, not working, but recordings are not working either
[17:55] <majoridiot> so likely not a firewire issue then... or recording would play ok.
[17:55] <staind9383> again... this is out of nowhere.. i swear i didnt touch anything
[17:56] <staind9383> right
[17:56] <staind9383> these were all wroking before
[17:56] <majoridiot> ok... standard rap: what are your frontend and backend logs showing when it errors?
[17:56] <staind9383> i have some good luck it seems
[17:56]  * majoridiot remebers helping fix it
[17:57] <staind9383> first thing i checked when live tv didnt work was plugreport, etc, but that shows OK, and the firewire tester works
[17:57] <mpontillo> Sweet - X-GNOME-Autostart-enabled=false did the trick! Xfce ignores it, so it does exactly what I want - start on my primary display but not my Xvnc display running gnome-session. Seems it's exactly the same as un-checking the "Enabled" box in System > Preferences > Sessions.
[17:58] <mpontillo> (which I would have done first, if I thought it would be specific to GNOME)
[17:58] <majoridiot> staind9383, speaking of which, i need your help testing the new firewire primer ASAP.  i know it's a lot to ask, when yer box is outta whack, but it's critical time-wise and i PROMISE it will not hurt anything.
[17:58] <staind9383> as a matter of fact, live tv is working...
[17:58] <staind9383> so its only recorded tv now
[17:58] <staind9383> blah
[17:58] <majoridiot> staind9383, but in the meantime, look @ your frontend and backend log for errors.
[17:58] <staind9383> ok, yea send me the script / insturctions
[17:58] <majoridiot> LOL
[17:59] <majoridiot> maybe yer database wasn't up yer?
[17:59] <majoridiot> yet
[17:59] <staind9383> dont know
[17:59] <staind9383> i restarted the front end... looking throught htelogs now
[17:59] <majoridiot> staind9383, well, at least it's back up now.
[17:59] <staind9383> 2008-03-29 13:58:21.873 AFD Error: avformat err(-1) on av_open_input_file call.
[18:00] <majoridiot> staind9383: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4608647#post4608647
[18:02] <staind9383> my handle on the forums is c3rb3rus... name was registered on IRC
[18:02] <staind9383> well freenode
[18:02] <staind9383> you know
[18:03] <staind9383> 2008-03-29 13:58:21.873 Couldn't open decoder for: /var/lib/mythtv/recordings/2750_20080329010000.mpg
[18:03] <staind9383> does not sound good
[18:06] <majoridiot> staind9383,  does that recording exist and can you open it with mplayer?
[18:07] <staind9383> as i browse the items in the recordings screen i get these: 2008-03-29 14:06:14.202 NVP: Couldn't find a matching decoder for: /var/lib/mythtv/recordings/2750_20080329010000.mpg
[18:07] <staind9383> for each one
[18:08] <staind9383> -rw-r--r-- 1 mythtv mythtv  7791885036 2008-03-08 23:00 2740_20080308210000.mpg
[18:08] <staind9383> yea its there
[18:09] <majoridiot> playable outside of myth?
[18:10] <superm1> mpontillo, could you document this somewhere useful for folks?
[18:10] <superm1> on one of the wikis perhaps
[18:10] <superm1> or in the FAQ
[18:10] <mpontillo> sure, I'll see if I can find a good spot
[18:11] <staind9383> majoridiot: the show i was tryin to watch there does not play in mplayer... another recording that i know worked last week shows only green but i can hear sound...
[18:11] <staind9383> :-/
[18:12] <majoridiot> hm.  now that is strange.
[18:12] <majoridiot> no auto updates or anything since the last time it worked?
[18:13] <staind9383> i dont think so
[18:13] <majoridiot> hm.
[18:14] <staind9383> VLC does a similar thing on the vid files that i know worked.... only with NES style red / green alternate lines
[18:14] <majoridiot> try recording a minute or so of something and see if it will, and then if it will play back.
[18:14] <majoridiot> hm.  if vlc does it, it makes me suspect the video driver.  vlc uses its own codecs, afaik.
[18:15] <majoridiot> are there any strange errors in your Xorg.0.log?
[18:16] <staind9383> what dir is that in?  /etc/X11?
[18:16] <majoridiot> /var/log/
[18:17] <staind9383> there are no timestamps, but it just looks like initialization to me
[18:20] <majoridiot> staind9383, look for lines starting with EE and WW.  EE are the most important, as they are errors.
[18:21] <staind9383> none with EE
[18:21] <staind9383> one WW toward the end
[18:21] <staind9383> (WW) NVIDIA(0): Option "AddARGBVisuals" is not used
[18:22] <staind9383> and a few other warnings about vid modes not being used
[18:25] <majoridiot> well, you can remove/comment out the "AddARGB..." line from your xorg.conf.  that much is apparent.
[18:26] <majoridiot> did you try making a new recording and watching it?
[18:26] <MythbuntuGuest97> ok finished removing all those packages and rebooted, still have the app bar
[18:27] <staind9383> i was looking for the live tv snippet that i was watching before and couldn't find it
[18:27] <staind9383> and now i cant getback into live tv.. i see lots of scrambled colors tehn it exits saying error encountered while displaying video
[18:27] <staind9383> in the syslog i see lots of these from yesterday into today:
[18:28] <staind9383> Mar 28 07:17:01 gearbox /USR/SBIN/CRON[8235]: (root) CMD (   cd / && run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly)
[18:28] <staind9383> Mar 28 07:36:05 gearbox -- MARK --
[18:28] <staind9383> Mar 28 07:39:01 gearbox /USR/SBIN/CRON[8380]: (root) CMD (  [ -d /var/lib/php5 ] && find /var/lib/php5/ -type f -cmin +$(/usr/lib/php5/maxlifetime) -print0 |
[18:28] <staind9383> xargs -r -0 rm)
[18:28] <staind9383> and i saw a random segfault for mythfilldatabast
[18:28] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest97, lol
[18:28] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest97, i guess you can't win?
[18:29] <superm1> i'm not sure what else could be affecting that?
[18:29] <superm1> gnome-session particularly is gone right?
[18:30] <MythbuntuGuest97> just check for gnome-session in the package manager?
[18:30] <superm1> yah
[18:32] <MythbuntuGuest97> its not selected
[18:32] <staind9383> its like mythtv just does not want to stay functional for me... it has so much potential... :(
[18:32] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest97, hmmp
[18:33] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest97, well next solution i can say then -
[18:33] <superm1> blow away your changed settings for this user accnt
[18:33] <superm1> in ~/.config
[18:33] <superm1> and ~/.local
[18:33] <superm1> so swithc into .config
[18:33] <superm1> and look in Autostart
[18:33] <superm1> make sure nothing crazy there
[18:33] <superm1> and then remove the xfce directories from in there
[18:33] <superm1> it rebuilds them on boot
[18:34] <MythbuntuGuest97> sorry you lost me, what should i do?
[18:34] <superm1> cd ~/.config
[18:34] <superm1> and then ls Autostart
[18:34] <superm1> and then ls
[18:34] <superm1> and see what's around
[18:34] <superm1> blow away anything but the .config/Autostart stuff
[18:34] <staind9383> so something is wrong with the codec that is rendering regular TV it seems... HD live tv plays ok... switching to a regular channel gives me sounds but messed up colors
[18:35] <MythbuntuGuest97> autostart has fusesmbnet.desktop and mythtv.desktop in it
[18:36] <superm1> take out the fuse one
[18:36] <superm1> that might just be it possibly :)
[18:36] <MythbuntuGuest97> how?
[18:37] <MythbuntuGuest97> i figured it out with rm
[18:37] <superm1> ya
[18:38] <staind9383> i'm tempted to reinstall all over again :-/
[18:38] <MythbuntuGuest97> config has (autostart, gtk-2.0, tracker, user-dirs.local, xfce4-session, compiz, Thunar, user-dirs.dir, and xfce4)
[18:42] <superm1> compiz?
[18:42] <superm1> interesting..
[18:42] <superm1> i didnt see it in your process list
[18:42] <superm1> is it installed/
[18:44] <MythbuntuGuest97> i think its one of the things i uninstalled, let me check
[18:44] <superm1> okay well nonetheless, you can blow away all those directories but the autostart
[18:44] <superm1> and then hit <ctrl><alt><backspace>
[18:44] <superm1> and let it log back in
[18:44] <MythbuntuGuest97> there are still some compiz stuff in synaptic i can remove them right?
[18:44] <superm1> urd
[18:45] <superm1> yes
[18:48] <MythbuntuGuest97> what is the command for removing directories?
[18:49] <staind9383> rmdir?
[18:50] <MythbuntuGuest97> thats it but doesnt work if there is anything in the directory
[18:50] <majoridiot> rm -rf /directory
[18:50] <staind9383> rm -R?
[18:50] <majoridiot> but be careful with that.
[18:50] <staind9383> i'm tempted to rm -rf /
[18:50] <staind9383> stupid video not working
[18:51] <staind9383> haha
[18:51] <MythbuntuGuest97> maybe ill just use thunar so i dont screw something up
[18:51] <majoridiot> staind9383, that'll fix everything... for good.  but not in a good way. ;)
[18:51] <majoridiot> MythbuntuGuest97, good idea.
[18:51] <superm1> when getting mythbuntu live disks built one of the first steps is to cleanup the directory,v well i mis-set one of the variables, and it accidently did rm -rf /
[18:51] <superm1> when it should have done
[18:51] <superm1> rm -rf $DIRECTORY/
[18:51] <superm1> yeah oops.
[18:52] <majoridiot> MythbuntuGuest97, it's a good idea to go with what you feel safe with.  you may need to sudo thunar for files/dirs you need permission for.
[18:52] <MythbuntuGuest97> ok how about the two files, user-dirs.dirs and user-dirs.local? should i remove them as well?
[18:52] <staind9383> yea, that might be a prob
[18:52] <staind9383> what is thunar?
[18:52] <majoridiot> MythbuntuGuest97, sudo thunar will run as root and allow deletion of files you do not have permissions for.
[18:53] <MythbuntuGuest97> i have permission for stuff in ~
[18:53] <majoridiot> thunar is the file manager mythbunu installs default
[18:53] <majoridiot> MythbuntuGuest97, probably not for everything- including mostly the hidden system files.
[18:54] <MythbuntuGuest97> well it worked this time, so thats all that matters, what about the two files superm1? do i delete them as well?
[18:54] <staind9383> so i think taht soemthing got corrupted with whatever codec is doing standard def video... or just video in general.. i just played one of the media files on another comp just fine
[18:54] <majoridiot> the newest binary for mythprime is posted if anyone cares to try it: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4608647#post4608647
[18:55] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest97, which worked?
[18:55] <superm1> deleting which particularly?
[18:55] <MythbuntuGuest97> i mean that i was able to delete in thunar without sudo
[18:56] <MythbuntuGuest97> so you want me to delete the two files as well and leave just the autostart directory in ,config?
[18:57] <superm1> so just delete anything but the autostart
[18:57] <superm1> in .config
[18:58] <MythbuntuGuest97> no im not sure, will ctrl + alt + backspace work in vnc or will it just restart the computer im on?
[18:58] <MythbuntuGuest97> um, i mean NOW im not sure
[18:59] <MythbuntuGuest97> ill just reboot, no confusion then
[18:59] <majoridiot> MythbuntuGuest97-
[19:00] <majoridiot> open a terminal on the remote computer-
[19:00] <majoridiot> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[19:00] <majoridiot> to restart the X server, et.al.
[19:01] <staind9383> majoridiot: dumb question... what flags whould i use on the tar command to extract.. i can never remember
[19:01] <majoridiot> should just be able to double-click it in thunar
[19:02] <staind9383> no dice, says unknown application
[19:02]  * majoridiot will add the untar commands to the post in a minute...
[19:02] <staind9383> open with rather
[19:03] <majoridiot> tar xvf <filename>
[19:05] <mishehu> does anybody know what the preferred mode for the ati remote wonder would be?  should I use the kernel /dev/input drivers or should I use lirc_atiusb?
[19:08] <majoridiot> mishehu, have you looked at this thread? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=603120
[19:09] <staind9383> sooo when i try to run the file it tells me no such file or directory... even though i am in the right directory, and the file has the right permissions.... I fee like i'm going nuts
[19:12] <MythbuntuGuest97> the app bar is still there
[19:12] <majoridiot> staind9383, no such file doing what?
[19:12] <staind9383> sean@gearbox:~$ ./mythprime -v
[19:12] <staind9383> -bash: ./mythprime: No such file or directory
[19:12] <mishehu> majoridiot: I have not, but am now.  though I don't know if I should be trusting anything a majoridiot says ;-)
[19:13] <majoridiot> mishehu, wise to be cautious ;)
[19:13] <staind9383> majoridiot: did you ever get my email?
[19:13] <majoridiot> staind9383, ls -l ./mythprime from the directory it is in.  what is the result?
[19:14] <staind9383> -rwxr-xr-x 1 sean sean 14788 2008-03-29 13:24 ./mythprime
[19:14] <majoridiot> staind9383, yes i did, thank you.
[19:14] <staind9383> -la, but same difference
[19:14] <majoridiot> hm.  and ./mythprime -h does what?
[19:15] <mishehu> alright, off to see if forcing the tvformat for this POS fglrx driver will get me some *colors* on my tv display.
[19:15] <staind9383> mishehu: colors are overrated...
[19:15]  * mishehu pees on ATI's crappy ass linux support.  Also, prays to the gawds of computing to allow the winds to favor radeonhd...
[19:15] <mishehu> staind9383: sure, if you're a dog or some other colorblind creature ;-)
[19:16] <staind9383> mishehu: if you like, we can switch, i get nintendo style green / ren plaid screens now
[19:16] <mishehu> it'd be funny if parrots were colorblind.
[19:16] <mishehu> staind9383: oh, you mean the "blow out the cartridge screens" ?
[19:16] <Aquahallic> afternoon folks
[19:16] <staind9383> yea
[19:16] <staind9383> majoridiot: still no such file or directory
[19:17] <mishehu> staind9383: damn we're old man.  today's kids have no knowledge of how hard we had it with the old NES
[19:17] <Aquahallic> when ripping a dvd can you go straight to an AVI file????
[19:17] <mishehu> my old NES played games better when I *didn't* push them down, only slid them in.
[19:17] <staind9383> mishehu: never have to blow on a DVD do they
[19:17] <majoridiot> staind9383, ok... from a terminal, run thunar
[19:17] <mishehu> staind9383: or smack a DVD around at all either
[19:17] <MythbuntuGuest97> i have to blow on my nintendoDS sholder buttons to get them to work sometimes, does that count?
[19:18] <majoridiot> staind9383,  then, navigate to the directory with the new mythprime and double-click to run it.  see what the output in the terminal is.
[19:18] <mishehu> MythbuntuGuest97: not quite, youngin!
[19:18] <mishehu> back in my day we didn't even have DS
[19:18] <mishehu> and we were HAPPY
[19:18] <MythbuntuGuest97> im 28, just underprivelaged as a child
[19:18] <mishehu> heh
[19:18] <staind9383> majoridiot: failed to execute mythprime
[19:18] <mishehu> MythbuntuGuest97: 2 more years to the grave for you!
[19:18] <staind9383> same error, no sich file or dir
[19:18] <staind9383> such
[19:19] <mishehu> I'm hoping that NTSC-M is for north america, otherwise this is going to be a fun day of "guess the NTSC format"!
[19:19] <majoridiot> sec.
[19:19] <staind9383> majoridiot: is there something just completely f'd with my system?
[19:20] <majoridiot> hm.  just downloaded and unpacked it again (tested it before posting) and everything works fine here.
[19:20] <MythbuntuGuest97> well i have the app bar set to autohide , i guess ill just have to be happy with that
[19:21] <majoridiot> mishehu, NTSC-M is north americs
[19:21] <majoridiot> america
[19:22] <majoridiot> staind9383, send me your email address and i will send you the source and instructions on how to compile.
[19:28] <mishehu> fsck, still no color
[19:33] <ajh> mishehu, don't worry too much, even if you got colour with NTSC it wouldn't be the right ones.
[19:34]  * majoridiot diplomatically recommends nvidia cards
[19:35] <staind9383> anyone know the proper use ofthe scp command?
[19:35] <mpontillo> staind9383: what are you trying to do?
[19:35] <majoridiot> stain man scp
[19:35] <staind9383> copy a file from one server to another
[19:36] <mishehu> majoridiot: doesn't help if it's an onboard chipset, and the machine is in a chassis that requires half-height cards.
[19:36] <ajh> use sftp if you're unabld to figure out cp. :)
[19:36] <mpontillo> use it just like cp, but add user@host before each filename
[19:36] <mpontillo> sorry, user@host:<filename>
[19:36] <staind9383> isee
[19:36] <mpontillo> *each remote filename
[19:37] <mishehu> hmm looks like mythbuntu has a rather old fglrx on it
[19:37] <majoridiot> but essentially: scp <source file> user@ip.address.of.target:/target/directory or scp user@ip.address.of.target:/target/directory /file /local/path/to/copy/to
[19:38] <staind9383> gotcha
[19:39] <mpontillo> Something up with the wiki? http://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV fails to load for me. Strangely, http://help.ubuntu.com/ works fine...
[19:41] <mpontillo> scratch that - works in Linux/Firefox for me, but not Windows/Firefox... wonder if it's just me?
[19:44] <Aquahallic> folks... during a rip of a dvd to a local file... my rip just dies.. where can I find the log for archiving??? I've looked in the frontend log and see nothing there.....
[19:44] <staind9383> majoridiot: i tried dling that file and upzipping in a VM version of 8.04 i have on my xp box and i get al error related to the app
[19:44] <staind9383> so it seems like something is completely wrong with this htpc
[19:44] <majoridiot> staind9383, it looks that way. :(
[19:45] <majoridiot> Aquahallic, look in the backend log?
[19:45] <staind9383> i dont know what the hell happened,... but if mythtv is gonna be a serious option for me i think that i need to learn a little more about how to manage a linux install / administer the system.. i cant just have it stop workign all of a suddfen on me
[19:46] <majoridiot> staind9383, it's really odd that it just stopped working all of the sudden and for no reason.
[19:46] <mpontillo> Aquahallic: for me it's in the frontend log; if I do a 'grep libdvd /var/log/mythtv/*' I get some information
[19:46] <Aquahallic> hmmm... k.. lemme look...:)
[19:47] <Aquahallic> ty
[19:47] <staind9383> i scheduled some recordings via mythweb, but i didnt change any settings there
[19:47] <staind9383> whens 8.04 come out
[19:48]  * majoridiot just downloaded and unpacked the binary on a windoze box, scp'd it to a mythbox and all is well in the garden on this end.
[19:49]  * staind9383 is going to reinstall and update to current right away before setting evcerything up
[19:50] <c3rb3rus5> to better match what i am in the forum
[19:51] <Aquahallic> well.. I see the log there.. but I can't tell what's going on...
[19:52] <c3rb3rus5> so should i install the 7.10 mythbuntu then update to .21, or install the latest beta / alpha of 8.04
[19:52]  * majoridiot recommends a fresh 8.04 beta, if you are reinstalling
[19:52] <mpontillo> Aquahallic: what do you mean by "just dies"? does it start and then die, or does it never start? I think I had to set a pathname to rip to somewhere before it would work... can't recall exactly though
[19:53] <majoridiot> that way you are sure there should be no package probs... i.e. mythvideo/mythdvd etc.
[19:53] <Aquahallic> it starts... goes for a while.. then just exits out
[19:53] <Aquahallic> I've pathed it out to my backend share for where to rip it
[19:54] <Aquahallic> I can see it starting to put the file in the folder I've specified
[19:54] <mpontillo> ah. well, did you try a different DVD? not sure how you would tell if it's getting I/O errors reading from the drive...
[19:55] <Aquahallic> yeah.. that's what I'm wondering.. I'm trying another one now
[19:55] <Aquahallic> that one had some scratches on it
[19:56] <mpontillo> any clues in dmesg or /var/log/syslog?
[19:57] <grytpype> q for the group...  I have a new mythbuntu box, everything works except when I try to view video on either my PVR or Firewire cards, it fails after about 2 seconds.
[19:57] <grytpype> The PVR shows DMA TIMEOUT errors, the Firewire just fails.
[19:57] <grytpype> I have a VIA chipset which was probably a mistake.
[19:57] <c3rb3rus5> grytpype: does firewire prime right?
[19:58] <grytpype> Is there a way to turn off DMA for those cards?  Or should I just get a new mobo with an NVIDIA chipset?
[19:58] <grytpype> yes, it primes.
[19:58] <grytpype> With the firewire, plugreport and firewire_tester are 100% successful, and test-mpeg2 works.
[19:59] <grytpype> but when I try to stream video from either the firewire or PVR card, it fails after 2 sec.
[19:59] <majoridiot> 'lo grytpype :)
[20:00] <grytpype> hey majoridiot
[20:00] <grytpype> i will pm you my email address... am going out for the evening so the test might be on sunday for me
[20:00] <c3rb3rus5> majoridiot: it seems like one vid file is screwing me up... after it shows nothing works again... on a fresh restart things work
[20:01] <c3rb3rus5> except that mythprime file... that is still not found
[20:01] <majoridiot> c3rb3rus5, maybe try uninstalling and reinstalling the proprietary vid driver?
[20:01] <majoridiot> grytpype, thank you.
[20:03] <Aquahallic> mpontillo: Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 860817
[20:03] <Aquahallic> what's the sr0 device??
[20:04] <Aquahallic> getting this error while ripping a dvd... Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 860817
[20:04] <mpontillo> Aquahallic: Wasn't sure myself: http://aplawrence.com/Bofcusm/1827.html -- "SCSI CD-ROM 0"
[20:04] <mpontillo> Sounds like you've narrowed it down between the DVD (too scratched?) and the drive (can't read DVDs in general)
[20:05] <Aquahallic> yeah.. that dvd was TORCHED.. Kids movie.. I'm trying to rip 'em to an AVI so they can just select them from the videos on myth.. so they CAN'T scratch them...LOL
[20:07] <mpontillo> bummer. yeah, my son is 4 weeks old and I've already started ripping kids movies - I've seen how kids handle DVDs!!
[20:08] <majoridiot> sr0 is generally a sata cd/dvd
[20:24] <Aquahallic> wow... I just did a hdparm -t on my cdrom drive....  Timing buffered disk reads:   10 MB in  3.24 seconds =   3.08 MB/sec
[20:24] <Aquahallic> that's pretty slow isn't it????
[20:27] <mishehu> ok, I think I just revealed that my problem with the video out on my system is *not* due to the crappy ass fglrx drivers...
[20:27] <EvilGuru> Aquahallic: 1x is 150kb/s
[20:27] <mishehu> even when I boot up and go into the bios, it's black and white.
[20:27] <EvilGuru> So around 20x speed, seems reasonable
[20:27] <mpontillo> my DVD drive works fine and got: Timing buffered disk reads:    6 MB in  3.08 seconds =   1.95 MB/sec
[20:28] <EvilGuru> It depends where it starts reading from, the outer sectors will be a lot faster
[20:28] <Aquahallic> yeah
[20:28] <EvilGuru> 1.95mb is quite slow for a DVD
[20:28] <Aquahallic> this thing keeps bombing ripping dvds with IO errors
[20:29] <mpontillo> tried it again, (presumably after the drive already spun up, it's in the other room) and it's faster: Timing buffered disk reads:    8 MB in  3.40 seconds =   2.35 MB/sec
[20:29] <EvilGuru> My okay-ish drive with cheap media can burn at 8x (10 MB/s)
[21:20] <EvilGuru> Is the quality of S-Video (for TV out) much better than that of composite?
[21:24] <mpontillo> EvilGuru: yes, I have noticed a *huge* difference between the two.. YMMV
[21:25] <EvilGuru> As currently I have my PAL-I TV at 1024x768 and while it is not bad, it is not crisp
[21:25] <EvilGuru> so I was considering getting an S-Video => SCART and connecting it that wat
[22:10] <c3rb3rus5> sooo if i reinstall mythbuntu.. is there a way to save the recordings that I have now?
[22:15] <mishehu> c3rb3rus5: I'm sure there are, but it all depends on how your mythtv is set up on your network.
[22:15] <c3rb3rus5> one box, both backend and front
[22:16] <mishehu> and database?
[22:17] <c3rb3rus5> same box
[22:17] <c3rb3rus5> yea
[22:17] <mishehu> that's a bit trickier then.
[22:17] <mishehu> you'd need to do the following:
[22:18] <mishehu> 1.  make a dump of mythconverg database with mysqldump
[22:18] <mishehu> 2.  Copy that dump and all recording files to a removable drive.
[22:18] <mishehu> 3.  Reinstall mythbuntu, get it working again
[22:18] <mishehu> 3.  Restore the files to the recordings directory
[22:18] <mishehu> oops that's 4
[22:18] <c3rb3rus5> haha
[22:18] <c3rb3rus5> well
[22:18] <mishehu> 5.  Restore the database from the dump
[22:19] <c3rb3rus5> what if i have /var/lib as its own partition
[22:19] <c3rb3rus5> wil that work?  just backup the db to there?
[22:19] <mishehu> c3rb3rus5: sure.  you just have to make sure you don't do any oopsies like repartition or have it reformat that partition
[22:19] <mishehu> heh
[22:19] <c3rb3rus5> i think that you might not be able to set /var/lib as a mount point without reformatting...
[22:20] <c3rb3rus5> think tiat i might have tried somehting similar last time
[22:20] <mishehu> then you'll want to do steps 2 and 3
[22:22] <mishehu> dammit mythbuntu already has a group 103 in use.
[22:22] <mishehu> klog.
[22:22] <mishehu> screws up my samba server access...
[22:51] <exec87> hi, i'm using mythbuntu, and i dont get the VNC working... i'm activating it in the mythbuntu control, setting the pw... pushing apply
[22:51] <exec87> and nothing happens... when i start the config the next time its disabled again
[22:52] <EvilGuru> If PAL has a resolution of 768x578 how can the nvidia driver output 1024x768 to my PAL tv
[23:23] <ajh> Hey, anyone know offhand where the font size for the setup menu text is stored?
[23:24] <exec87> can anyone give me his first line from ist etc/apt/source.list ?
[23:24] <exec87> the one with the cdrom?
[23:26] <sebrock> I'm having trouble installing a LCDproc from cvs... when I try ./autogen I get a message about AC_PROG_LIBTOOL and it just exits
[23:26] <sebrock> so I cant create a makefile
[23:48] <ahave> hello room, can anyone tell me if this optical drive is supported in linux?  	 GGC-H20L
[23:48] <ahave> it is the LG bluray/HD dvd drive
[23:49] <exec87> ahrg :(
[23:49] <exec87> damn VNC