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Mannequinhi, I've written a little shell script that starts-up my wi-fi connection00:06
Mannequinit must be run as sudo00:06
MannequinI would like to know where can I put it so it runs on start-up, both for my gf user and my user00:07
zoredacheMannequin: does it run after the gui is started?00:07
zoredacheor does it matter?00:08
Mannequinmmmmm, I think it doesn't matter. All commands are CLI commands00:08
Mannequinlike iwconfig and iwpriv00:08
zoredacheis the interface built-in to the computer?00:09
zoredacheyou could update your /etc/network/interfaces file to call the script directly00:09
zoredacheanyway since it is network related I would put it in /etc/network00:09
zoredachethen either start it with an 'up' cause in the interfaces file or call set it up as an autostart either per user or in at the system level00:10
Mannequinzoredache: yes, the interface is built-in00:17
Mannequinhow do I run an script from the interfaces file?00:17
TheSheepcustom local scripts should go to /etc/rc.local00:17
ron_oI sort of asked this question before but I still don't know for sure the effect of what I'd like to do. I'm trying to get mplayer rc2 installed. But the repos only have rc1 installed.00:22
ron_oif I install mplayer from a .deb file, can I have two instances of mplayer on my system?00:22
ron_oright now if I remove my one mplayer then other apps I have will be removed as well.00:22
ron_oI'm kind of confused as to how to go about this.00:23
j1mchm, ron_o ... sorry, i don't know the answer to that one.00:23
zoredacheron_o: there are ways, but is is tricky... there is an option to have a .deb extracted to an alternate directory00:23
ron_ozoredache, yah, that's what I'm after.00:23
ron_oI'll look into that option.00:24
ron_omplayer was just updated too, but to another version of rc1.. damn.00:24
ron_oso I figure it's going to be a long time for it to get to rc2..00:24
zoredacheron_o: another option might be to get the source for the package and manually build it so that it will run from the /usr/local directory00:26
ron_oI can do that too. thanks.. :)00:26
Lobsterhow can I get the settings-manager for compiz in xubuntu?00:27
Lobsteroh... nevermind00:27
j1mcLobster: :)00:28
ron_ohmm, it says here that mplayer rc2 is in multivers: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/mplayer00:37
ron_oI have multiverse..00:37
j1mcron_o: are you running the development release of hardy?00:38
ron_ono.00:39
j1mcron_o: so it looks like rc2 is in hardy (which will be released officially in about a month), but you aren't running that version yet.00:40
ron_oI see. I thought I was. sorry.00:40
j1mc:)  np00:40
ron_oa month. I can wait that long. :)00:40
j1mc:)  cool.  hardy is shaping up pretty nicely, so it should be a good release.  at least i think so.  :)00:41
Stroganoffwhere does Thunar store the favorite folder pane?00:44
Stroganoffthe folder shortcuts00:44
TheSheepStroganoff: in ~/.gtk-bookmarks00:47
Stroganoffthx00:47
ron_othe only reason why I wanted mplayer upgraded was because rc2 will fast forward flash and rc1 will not. But vlc does it just fine. I can stand another  month here. :)00:48
kommerCan anyone help me with screen resolution in xubuntu please?02:18
HACKhalo2is it for the login?02:18
kommerthe login?02:19
HACKhalo2when you login, sorry02:19
kommerI can't change my res past 800x600, I'm trying to get 1152x864.02:19
HACKhalo2what setting is it on, driver wise?02:20
kommerScreens and graphics settings you mean?02:20
HACKhalo2yea02:20
kommerI've tried changing that as I get "Ubuntu is running in low graphics mode" every time I start up yet to no avail, the changes don't get saved02:21
kommerdriver is set to vesa02:22
HACKhalo2oh, sorry, i don't know how to fix that problem02:22
HACKhalo2heh02:22
HACKhalo2did you just install ubuntu?02:22
kommeryesterday02:22
HACKhalo2is there anything on it thats important?02:22
kommernot really02:23
HACKhalo2reinstall02:23
kommerthere must be a way to fix without reinstalling02:23
kommerit's just the resolution which is annoying :(02:23
HACKhalo2well, try it02:25
HACKhalo2i had to reinstall twicee because it screwed up02:25
kommerI'll think about it, thanks for the suggestion02:26
burntcheesehey anyone here running xbuntu on an eeepc?02:46
burntcheeseor tried to install xubuntu to an SD card?02:47
ArmyMan007hello? anybody home?06:38
zoredacheperhaps06:43
zoredache!anyone06:43
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?06:43
ArmyMan007ubotu -> because usually people don't answer...06:54
zoredacheif you don't ask your question they will never have a chance07:05
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crackerjackzim using gentoo and ubuntu....im trying to help a friend that has xubuntu08:31
crackerjackzin ubuntu if you want to configure your wireless card its system->administration->network-> wireless connection08:32
crackerjackzwhat is it in xbuntu?08:32
crackerjackzhes using gnome08:32
crackerjackzmy ubuntu uses gnome but i hear the GUI in xubuntu is diff from the gui in ubuntu08:32
Iskrwell08:41
Iskrdoes it use gnome or note?08:41
Iskr*or not?08:41
Iskr<crackerjackz> hes using gnome08:41
crackerjackziskr yes hes using gnome08:44
crackerjackzsorry for late reply08:44
dm-madmanUbuntastic!08:45
crackerjackzlol madman08:45
Iskrcrackerjackz, so i'm sorry if i don't undestand, but what's your concern?08:58
Iskrgnome is always gnome08:58
crackerjackzmaybe hes not using gnome then09:00
crackerjackzi think hes confused09:00
Iskreheh09:00
Iskri think he is using xfce09:00
Iskrsince it is xubuntu default desktop manager =)09:00
crackerjackzi had him type lspci09:01
crackerjackzheres what it said09:01
crackerjackzhttp://rafb.net/p/ua2FBE11.html09:01
crackerjackzi had him load this module modprobe libertas09:01
crackerjackzmodprobe libertas     ***09:01
crackerjackzhe says "wireless connection isnt showing up in network manager as if its not detecting the card at all"09:02
Iskrmmm09:05
Iskri'm sorry i can't help09:05
crackerjackzits ok09:07
crackerjackzlskr thanks any ways =]09:07
Lokianhi all09:10
KojiroAKhi09:10
ere4si!hi09:10
ubotuHi! Welcome to #xubuntu!09:10
gabkdllyif I forward email to localhost using smtp, where does it go?09:39
Lokianthe some place that lost socks go09:40
gabkdllyreally? big black hole style?09:40
LokianNo idea09:45
LokianI'm completly new to xubuntu and linux in general, sorry09:45
mikubuntucan anyone tell me how to complete my update cycle... last week after an update failed to complete i am left with a prompt on the update icon that says 'This usually means that your installed packages have unmet dependencies'09:45
LokianHell, I can't even get VNC server to work09:45
LokianMan, is it so hard to find a mobo with a built in dual nics09:51
Lokianthat doesn't cost a small fourtune09:52
Lokianor is that fortune..09:52
ere4siLokian: have you installed the server on the box you want to connect to?09:55
ere4siand edited the /etc/hosts files to add the ips' of the comps?09:57
Lokianere4si: Yes10:12
Lokianere4si: waaaiitt.. etc/hosts file?10:12
ere4siLokian: yep10:12
LokianI've never read that in any of the guids I have seen10:13
Lokianguides*10:13
ere4siLokian: on both comps - your /etc/hosts file should list the ips' and hostname of the other comps10:15
ere4sis/on/all10:15
LokianBut I only run linux on one box. total. period.10:15
ere4siLokian: ahh - windows connecting to linux?10:16
ere4sior the other way?10:16
Lokianere4si: Yup10:16
ere4sione min10:16
Lokianere4si: I'm trying to make a firewall/proxy whatever that just runs moblock so I don't have to run peergaurdian on each machine10:17
ere4siLokian: don't do anything like that - haven't run windows since 2002 - was going to read a guide for the vnc part and walk you through it10:19
ere4siLokian: how are you trying to connect? -what are you typing/using pls?10:20
Lokianere4si: What's a good wireless Mini PCI or Cardbus card for linux?10:21
ere4siI don't do wireless either hehe10:21
ere4sisorry10:21
Lokianoh poop10:24
Lokianere4si I'm trying to connect on my LAN?10:25
ere4siLokian: vnc will display your linux desktop on another comp - you need a windows prog to do that10:26
ordcan anyone help me with a wierd problem?10:26
Lokianok?10:27
ordI can't wake the computer up after hour or so10:28
ordI checked the power management and configured the screen and HDD to NEVER sleep10:28
ordbut still, after hour or so, I can't wake him up10:28
ordany ideas?10:28
ere4siord: it is probably a bios setting10:32
ere4siLokian: look at putty as a windows app10:33
ordere4si: so i need to check the bios for power manager?10:33
ere4siord: there will be an option - they come under diff names for diff bios's10:34
mikubuntucan anyone tell me how to complete my update cycle... last week after an update failed to complete i am left with a prompt on the update icon that says 'This usually means that your installed packages have unmet dependencies'10:46
ordere4si: thank you10:48
ere4siord: found the option?10:49
ere4si:)10:49
ordere4si: i found power managment10:50
ordmost of the things looked fine10:50
ordonly changed the video... to off10:50
ordhope that will do the trick10:50
ere4sigood luck :)10:51
ordthanx10:51
mikubuntucan anyone tell me how to complete my update cycle... last week after an update failed to complete i am left with a prompt on the update icon that says 'This usually means that your installed packages have unmet dependencies'10:53
LokianDoes anyone know if Remote Admin works with linux?11:05
killownhi, I cannot add item XFCE main menu to xfce4-panel because it disappear can anyone help me?11:22
ere4sikillown: if you right click the panel and select "add new item" is it not there?11:24
killownere4si does it not11:25
killownere4si, I don't know how I can add it again11:25
killownxfdesktop-menu shom me this menu11:26
killownshow*11:26
notinuse2just a question guys, i have a sun ultrasparc 2 450mhz cpu with around 256 maybe 512mb ram with xubuntu run on it fine?11:30
ere4sikillown: do you have a file in your home folder   .config/xfce4/desktop/menu.xml   ?11:31
ere4sinotinuse2: should be ok :)11:32
killownere4si, nop11:32
notinuse2Also, it didn't come with a video card for some reason, can i just bung any old pci card in there?11:32
ere4sikillown: that is the file the menu is made from - one min11:32
killownere4si, where I can found it?11:33
killownmenu.xml11:33
ere4sikillown: I'll paste mine - then you can copy11:33
ere4si!paste11:33
ubotupastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)11:33
killownok ty11:34
notinuse2also, im guessing xubuntu is a lighter weight version of ubuntu?11:34
Lokianheh, I use xubuntu..11:35
ere4sikillown: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/61450/ - make sure you put it in the right file name - the ctrl + alt + bksp to restart and login then right click the pane and add new item11:36
notinuse2its amazing if it runs well on this, its bloody ten years old11:37
ere4sinotinuse2: it uses xfce which is lighter then gnome that ubuntu uses11:37
killownere4si, thanks a lot dude11:37
ere4sinp :)11:37
killownbrb11:37
notinuse2i presume i will most likely want a lightweight browser, any recommendations?11:38
ere4sinotinuse2: I use it on a 450mhz amd k6 with 256 - it's not fast but more than usable11:38
ere4siepiphany is supposed to be light - I use firefox still11:39
notinuse2i might have a look at fluxbuntu11:39
notinuse2might you, i will most likely be buying 3 more cpu's :P they go for $12 on ebay11:39
notinuse2mind*11:40
ere4sifluxbuntu still has issues - I use the server install with fluxbox on my main comp - 40mb mem used at boot :)11:41
notinuse2what kind of issues D:11:41
ere4sifrom what I've read there is some issues with some h/ware11:42
notinuse2i will download both :D11:42
LokianI use xubuntu on a PII 300 with 192MB's of RAM11:42
ere4sihave fun :)11:42
notinuse2i will11:43
notinuse2it would seem fluxubuntu doesnt even have a sparc image :/ yay11:49
ere4sihehe11:50
ere4siit is still young :)11:50
notinuse2huh, i dont see one under xubuntu  either11:51
notinuse2found one, but it was under alternative installation cd is that a problem?11:53
ere4sihttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/ports/releases/7.10/release/11:54
ere4siThe alternate is just a text installation - no live cd11:54
ere4sisame os at the end11:54
notinuse2huh, i might grab it for my ps3 aswell :D11:55
ere4sigrab the right ones11:55
notinuse2xubuntu-7.10-alternate-sparc.iso << is the correct one yeah11:55
ere4siyep - looks right11:56
ere4sibut not for the pent :)11:56
ere4sihehe11:56
notinuse2Playstation 3 , not p3 :P11:57
ere4sioops11:57
ere4siaren't they pentiums?11:58
notinuse2Nope, which is why they run a completey different ISO, its a properity CPU designed by Toshiba Sony and IBM11:58
ere4sithere you go - the older ones were weren't they?11:59
notinuse2XBOX1 ran a Pentium 3, XBOX360 runs a 3 Core PPC CPU and the PS1 and PS2 both ran properity stuff11:59
ere4sikk12:00
TheSheepI think ps3 is 64 core... :)12:03
notinuse2I would go into detail but it would bore you guys (:12:04
totzillahi can anyone tell me what the release date is for hadry heron13:47
totzillajust trying to figure out if i should wait since april is just a few days away13:48
totzillaok thanks for the help13:50
TheSheeptotzilla: 27 April 200813:51
totzillaoh great TheSheep guess i'll get the beta then13:51
TheSheepthe link to exact schedule is on that page:13:51
TheSheep!hardy13:52
ubotuHardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu13:52
TheSheepoh, Apriol 2413:52
TheSheepApril13:52
TheSheepcool13:52
totzillasounds like a lot of work/thought went into making it hope its as good as it sounds13:53
ere4sitotzilla: the beta is good so far :)13:56
totzillagreat to hear that ere4si13:57
ere4sitotzilla: had an issue yesterday and the updates solved it - so it's looking good13:58
jandarkany one have a problem with system date and time in xubuntu 7.10 ?14:22
jandarkmy system date change every time I reboot my PC14:23
Lobsterwhere to report a bug in xubuntu 8.04?14:52
j1mcLobster: do you havea launchpad account?14:55
Lobsterno14:55
Lobsteractuallly its a wrong localization and not really a bug14:56
j1mcLobster: ok.  what's the problem exactly?14:57
Lobsterthe options dialog od quicklauncher-pannel-applet is french14:58
j1mcwhat language should it be?14:58
Lobsterenglich, I installed without any localization14:58
Lobster*english14:59
j1mchuh... it's the same way for me!14:59
j1mcit shouldn't be that way15:00
j1mci'll see what package that belongs to.15:02
j1mcLobster: would you like me to walk you through reporting the bug?15:03
Lobsterhm okay15:05
LobsterIll get a launchpad account15:06
j1mcLobster: actually... https://bugs.launchpad.net/xfce/+bug/17991715:06
ubotuLaunchpad bug 179917 in xfce4-quicklauncher-plugin "Quicklauncher settings display French text in English environment" [Low,Fix released]15:06
j1mclook at that bug15:06
Lobsterokay15:06
j1mcLobster: do you see how it says, "this bug was fixed with version 1.9.4-1ubuntu2?15:08
j1mcyou can tell the version of your installed program by typing "dpkg -l [name of package]"15:09
j1mcin this case, dpkg -l xfce4-quicklauncher-plugin15:09
j1mcit says that the problem is fixed, but it's not.15:10
j1mcnot in this version.15:10
Lobsteryes15:11
j1mcwould you like to add the bug comment?  create a launchpad account, go to the bug report, and add your comment.15:11
j1mcmake sure to include the version number, and steps to reproduce the problem.15:11
Lobsterhmm...15:16
j1mcLobster: i thought of something.  it may be that you don't have the full english language pack installed.15:19
j1mcwhen you enter text into a text box in firefox, does it show all words as misspelled?  (underlining them?)15:20
j1mci'm testing by installing the english language packs, and will report back momentarily15:20
j1mcbrb15:21
j1mcLobster: yeah, i think it's still a bug.15:25
Lobsterhm Im not usin firefox, but I think I don't have any spellchecking at all...15:26
j1mcsorry abou that... different issue.15:26
j1mcdo you want to report the bug?15:26
Lobsterno go ahead if you like ;)15:27
j1mcLobster: ... done15:33
j1mchttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-quicklauncher-plugin/+bug/17991715:33
ubotuLaunchpad bug 179917 in xfce4-quicklauncher-plugin "Quicklauncher settings display French text in English environment" [Low,Confirmed]15:33
j1mci changed the status, and added the comment.  that's all.  :)15:33
Lobster:)15:40
kommerCan anyone help me out with screen resolution in xubuntu?16:15
birgihey all. applications like firefox, thunderbird, open office are not very responsive. i mean characters that i type do not appear as fast as i type them. can anybody suggest me something?17:15
birgiis it related to xfce or my graphics card driver maybe?17:16
TheSheepbirgi: what card is that?17:18
birgiTheSheep: ati hd 260017:20
birgiright now i am using that fglrx driver, but for example fglrxinfo does not show up the correct card17:21
the_alamocould anyone suggest an app that would be good for making a stop-motion video from pictures?17:46
gerrothe_alamo: some use short imagemagick scripts to thread together snapshots of desktop to make videos I'm sure you could do the same18:43
maristohi all18:49
maristowhere .trash is situated?18:49
viddhello18:49
maristoi need to delete some files as root18:49
maristoi already searched for it, but now forget location18:50
TheSheepmaristo: in ~/.local/share/trash18:50
maristothnk!18:50
maristogood channel, not only channel of asks, but also channel of answers :)18:52
c-ronhi19:18
viddhello19:18
c-ronsomeone want to help me track down a bug with xubuntu hardy?19:19
viddsure...what bug?19:20
c-ronvidd:  are you using hardy?19:20
alvynmcqhi ron, i would willing to help but i am a bit of a newbie so not sure how much use i would be19:20
viddupgrading now19:20
maristois updating to hardy secure?19:22
viddy would it not b?19:22
c-ronopen the terminal in xubuntu (accessories > terminal), then type sudo cat /dev/psaux to display the devnode info from your mouse, move the mouse around a bit, then hit Ctrl+C to end the cat output19:22
c-ronwhat happens? mine makes all keyboard info display wrong in terminal until i close terminal and restart it19:23
c-roncan anyone else reproduce this?19:24
vidddid you open a bug report?19:24
c-ronnot yet.. just wanted to see if anyone else gets the same thing19:25
viddthis is a #xubuntu-devel thing19:25
c-ronokie.. i'll ask there19:25
TheSheepc-ron: type 'reset'19:28
TheSheepc-ron: it will reset your terminal to default mode19:28
TheSheepc-ron: you see, some of the characters that were output have special meaning19:29
TheSheepc-ron: and they switch the terminal mode19:29
TheSheepc-ron: it's not a bug19:29
TheSheepc-ron: you can use less instead of cat, it will eascpae those characters19:29
c-ronnice19:33
c-ronthanks TheSheep19:34
Stroganoffxfprint is unable to find my printing backend20:13
Stroganoffhence i cant print with mousepad and such20:13
Stroganoffprinting from abiword or gimp works fine20:13
Stroganoffi got xfprint, cupsys and cupsys-client20:15
Stroganoffwhat am i missing?20:15
Stroganoffok i fixed it with the control panel ^^20:28
martin_zgrhello, i cannot find any place to talk about cinepaint HDR plugin,anyone knows about any irc channel?20:38
phfneti'm waking up a P3 128 MB computer using mini.iso in "cli" mode20:41
phfneti'd like to run a minimal but pretty wm on top of that20:42
phfnetwill "aptitude install xubuntu-desktop" do the trick, or will it install too much?20:42
phfnetare there lighter options that still look good?20:42
siggjeni believe it will be sluggish20:42
siggjenfluxbox is oki if you got the time to configure20:43
phfnetfluxbox didn't come with network boot disk afaik20:43
phfnetso how do i configure it from mini.iso cli result?20:43
phfnetor apt-get it20:44
phfnet(i've got time :)20:44
siggjenapt-get install fluxbox might get you some way, or better google it20:44
siggjeni've never used fluxbox on ubuntu20:44
phfnetok, thanks, found something that's close enough20:46
siggjen!fluxbox20:47
ubotufluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox20:47
siggjenthere might be thre right place20:47
phfnetthanks20:48
BunnyRevolutionwhat is the equivalent to yakuake in xubuntu?21:19
BunnyRevolutionxubunt lamp server is /var/www ?21:21
BunnyRevolutioner, apache under LAMP21:21
BunnyRevolutionanybody home?21:35
siggjennope21:36
BunnyRevolutioni understand that xubuntu is going through a transition?21:37
siggjeni have no idea21:37
StroganoffBunnyRevolution: xterm21:39
StroganoffBunnyRevolution: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP21:40
BunnyRevolutiondoes xterm drop down like yakuake?21:43
BunnyRevolutionwith key stroke?21:43
Stroganoffnope21:43
StroganoffBunnyRevolution: tilda and yeahconsole are what ur looking for21:45
Stroganoffboth ones are in the repos21:46
BunnyRevolutionyep, that is what i was looking for.  the gui is not as polished, but at least i won't have to search for it with a mouse21:49
BunnyRevolutionbeta won't get past the partitioner21:53
BunnyRevolutionis there a way to move the "applications" menu to the bottom?22:00
BunnyRevolutionand replace it with a button?22:00
Stroganoffyes22:04
FFEMTcJim setting up a computer with ubuntu.. im going to use this computer to learn and play with, so im expecting to "break it" often just  because of a lack of knowledge.. ive heard that you can put different things such as /etc and /usr on different partitions to lessen the22:12
FFEMTcJ "impact" if you have to reinstal so that you dont loose everything.. Can someone tell me if this is a good idea, and if so, whaht all  should I put on different partitions?22:12
FFEMTcJs/ubuntu/xubuntu22:12
oemhi guys whats up22:12
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=== subuntu is now known as suebuntu
suebuntumy first time here just checking it out22:13
HACKhalo2well, welcome to Xubuntu!22:16
Whyvasis there a command line xorg config?22:36
Whyvaslike XF86config22:36
Whyvas?22:37
WhyvasI had to install it using a diffrent laptop that it's going to be used in because the cdrom drive of the other laptop is dead22:37
Whyvasnow the xorg is screwed22:37
Whyvascan I make it re auto detect somehow?22:37
BunnyRevolutionreboot to rescue mode and then fix it22:41
BunnyRevolutionFFEMTcJ: /home is all you really need, but you can also put a /storage partition for files and folders you want to keep22:41
BunnyRevolutioni normally do, /, /home, and /storage22:42
BunnyRevolutionwhere storage is a partition where i store only data22:42
WhyvasBunnyRevolution how do I fix it?22:42
WhyvasI can get to the command lne22:42
TheSheepWhyvas: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg22:43
FFEMTcJBunnyRevolution: ty22:44
TheSheepFFEMTcJ: normally you'd put the sotrage in /mnt or /media :)22:44
TheSheepFFEMTcJ: like /mnt/storage22:44
TheSheepbut you can mount it in your home as well22:45
BunnyRevolutionFFEMTcJ: yes, normally22:45
FFEMTcJwhat is mnt?22:45
BunnyRevolutioni always seperate my data from my home.  as i rm -rf *.* from my home dir from time to time22:45
FFEMTcJwhat do you put in your home dir?22:46
TheSheepFFEMTcJ: just a directory where you normally mount things22:46
FFEMTcJic22:46
BunnyRevolutionFFEMTcJ: your home directory contains things like .rc files, etc.22:47
FFEMTcJk22:47
BunnyRevolutionbasically your user configuration22:47
BunnyRevolutionyou wont see most of the files unless you "ls -ax"22:48
BunnyRevolutionmost of them are .hidden files22:48
TheSheepBunnyRevolution: why -x?22:48
TheSheepBunnyRevolution: you don't like columns?22:48
BunnyRevolutioni hate columns22:49
killownhi23:31
killownhow I do to rename hal devices ?23:31

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