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jjessein hardy if i have installed the kde3 version, i can install kubuntu-kde4-desktop to have the kde403:02
jjesseyeah that's it03:12
ScottK2They say so.03:12
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ryanakcaAnybody know if there's somewhere that I can link to from the website that has a bunch of Kubuntu reviews?04:09
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ScottK2Two more kde-guidance bugs fixes uploaded ....04:20
nixternalrock on04:29
ScottK2There's no way I'd be doing this if I hadn't gotten core.  Maybe it was a mistake to apply.04:39
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nixternalhehe, thanks for the heads up, then I will never apply :p04:40
ScottKAll I can say now is I'm really glad for bulletrproof X.04:56
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bdgrauehello, the kftpgrabber freezes after a short time, while trying to copy a folder in kosole it give a huge amount of    QObject: 32 timers now exist for object QObject::unnamed11:44
txwikingerDoes KDE4 have already language support?12:57
smartertxwikinger: yes12:57
smartertxwikinger: kde-l10n-* packages in kubuntu12:58
txwikingercan I somehow start an app from commandline with a different language?12:58
smartertxwikinger: KDE_LANG=fr_FR app12:59
smarterat least in kde312:59
txwikingerah KDE_LANG :)12:59
txwikingerI will try that12:59
txwikingerthanks smarter12:59
smarteryou also have an entry "switch application language"(or something like that) in the help menu12:59
txwikingerwell.. I just want to test a certain app12:59
txwikingerI should not need to change the whole desktop for that13:00
smarterthis entry is only for one app13:00
txwikingercool it worked13:01
txwikingerthanks13:01
smarterRiddell: ping13:01
ryanakcaAnybody know of a page the website can link to with a bunch of user reviews on Kubuntu?13:33
nosrednaekimryanakca: a google search for "user  reviews of kubuntu" :P13:34
ryanakcanosrednaekim: than in that case we need to get some more or a place to unify them, because from what I see: a) they're all blog entries reviewing us, b) they're far and few in between (a couple for 6.06, 6.10 and 7.04 and three for 7.10. licencing, etc? Do I link to a list of individual blogs, file sharing sites, etc?)...13:40
ryanakcas/etc\?/etc/g13:40
nosrednaekimryanakca: I don't see why you couldn't link to blogs... and I can search a lot down for you if you would like13:40
ryanakcaHmm... imho, it just doesn't look as professional, not having it all under one site... but, it's that or take off the link to reviews... Go for it if you want :)13:42
ryanakcamethinks we'll have to make a thread on kubuntuforums.org when the release comes around, to get people's opinions and reviews all in one page.13:43
nosrednaekimalright13:45
nosrednaekimryanakca: here is a pretty decent list! http://www.google.com/custom?domains=www.tuxmachines.org&q=kubuntu&sitesearch=www.tuxmachines.org&sa=Google+Search&client=pub-6816844301275330&forid=1&ie=ISO-8859-1&oe=ISO-8859-1&safe=active&cof=GALT%3A%23008000%3BGL%3A1%3BDIV%3A%23336699%3BVLC%3A663399%3BAH%3Acenter%3BBGC%3AFFFFFF%3BLBGC%3A336699%3BALC%3A0000FF%3BLC%3A0000FF%3BT%3A000000%3BGFNT%3A0000FF%3BGIMP%3A0000FF%3BFORID%3A1&hl=en13:48
ryanakcanosrednaekim: ah, tuxmachines.org , they have more than one review, thanks ;D13:50
* ryanakca hates how when you search for "kubuntu" in google, they ask "did you mean /ubuntu/?"13:51
nosrednaekimmostly links to other reviews though,so you might not want to link JUST to the google redirect13:51
nosrednaekimheh.,.. yes, very annoying13:51
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Riddellsmarter: pong16:52
smarterhey Riddell16:52
smarterI've made a new patch to prevent the medianotifier popup in kde416:52
smarterit's more clean16:53
smarterand you can easily add other modules to blacklist16:53
smarterhttp://smarter.free.fr/pkg/kdelibs.debdiff16:53
smarterby default, it prevent loading of medianotifier, mediamanager, kmilod and kwrited16:54
Riddellgroovy16:54
smarterwith this patch enabled, we can drop kubuntu_9924_kde4_no_medianotifier.diff from kdebase16:57
Riddellyep16:57
Riddelllooks good16:57
smarterI was wondering, does the medianotifier daemon popup too if you use a kde app on Gnome/XFCE/whatever?17:03
Riddellsmarter: that I'm not sure17:26
Artemis_FowlRiddell: I have one question17:37
gladtrHi17:38
gladtri need help17:38
gladtr I m have trouble after upgrade hardy with booting my kubuntu17:39
gladtrits switch initramfs  - minimal  boot17:39
gladtrwhat is this? any ideas?17:40
gladtr Removing any system startup links for /etc/init.d/finish ...17:43
awen-gladtr: you should try asking for help in #kubuntu or #ubuntu+117:46
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jjesseafternoon everyone:)19:48
jjesseok need a question answered: is upgrading from 7.10 KDE3 to KDE 4 supported?  if not how do i upgrade my kde 3 7.10 box -> kde4 8.04?19:55
jjessewould i first have to upgrade from 7.10 to 8.04 via the upgrade manager and then install kubuntu-kde4-desktop?19:56
jjesseRiddell: can you help with above?  upgrade form 7.10 to 8.04 kde3 only supported?19:57
smarterweird20:00
smarterby default, qtconfig-qt4 use the "Sans Serif" fonts, and looks ugly, if I change it to "DejaVu Sans" it is as good as Qt3, but Qt3 use "Sans Serif", so I assume it's DejaVu Sans20:01
Riddelljjesse: upgade from 7.10 is for kde 3 only20:01
Riddelljjesse: then you can install kubuntu-kde4-desktop (which should appear in Add/Remove Programmes soon)20:02
jjesseRiddell: ok so in the section "upgrading Kubuntu" i need to phrase it so people understand20:03
_StefanS_evening20:03
Riddelljjesse: an upgrade will get you the newest kde 3.  if you want kde 4 that's a separate matter20:03
jjesseevening _StefanS_20:04
_StefanS_Tonio_: I've got the ui done, and need to attach functions to save, and load in it20:04
_StefanS_Tonio_: working on that now20:04
jjesseRiddell:  i understand.... so should i remove the whole section "upgrading" from the book that talks about upgrading from previous version to new version20:04
jjesseRiddell: and if i have 7.10 w/ kde4 packages installed will it upgrade correctlY?20:05
smarterDoes someone know why Qt4 use some ugly font for Sans Serif instead of DejaVu Sans?20:05
Riddelljjesse: well you should say it'll upgrade kde 3.  if you have kde 4 packages installed it'll upgrade those too20:05
jjesseRiddell: thanks20:05
smarterapparently Qt4 use Nimbus Sans L instead of DejaVu Sans for Sans Serif20:12
smartercan anyone confirm?20:12
jjesseintersting in 8.04 (with Samba installed) i click on it under System settings and System Settings crashes... anyone else have this problem?20:25
smarterdoes anyone know what is the system-wide configuration file for Qt4?20:37
smarter(font bug reported: https://bugse.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qt4-x11/+bug/209358 )20:37
ubotuLaunchpad bug 209358 in qt4-x11 "fonts in Qt4 look ugly because it uses Nimbus Sans L instead of Deja Vu Sans for Sans-Serif" [Undecided,New]20:37
smarter*https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qt4-x11/+bug/20935820:37
Riddellsmarter: see if there's any recent changes to fontconfig?20:38
_StefanS_Riddell: do you know how to get an extra .ui file included in an existing src package? I'm having trouble getting the .h file generated using uic20:40
Riddell_StefanS_: KDE 3?20:41
smarterRiddell: I've always had this problem with Qt4 apps20:41
Riddellsmarter: it's not something I've seen20:41
Riddellsmarter: ArneGoetje is the dude who knows about fonts20:41
smarterdoes he usually idles in this channel?20:42
Riddell#u-d20:42
_StefanS_Riddell: kde3 yep20:42
Riddell_StefanS_: add it to Makefile.am and run make -f admin/Makefile.cvs20:42
_StefanS_Riddell: I'll try that20:43
_StefanS_Riddell: hmm only got a nearly empty Makefile.common20:44
Riddell_StefanS_: well does it compile the .ui file?20:49
_StefanS_Riddell: nope.. it complains during the end where it needs to do a .moc file from the .h (which is done from the .ui)20:49
_StefanS_odd20:50
_StefanS_ah maybe I found something..20:50
jjessein kde4 8.04 why doesn't system settings show up in the search bar of the application launcher when i search for system, system settings or settings?20:55
jjesse?20:56
Riddelljjesse: bug?20:56
Riddellit's in computer20:56
jjesseRiddell: i know it is in computer and also in favorites20:57
Riddelli guess th search is only for applications20:57
Riddell6tmj20:58
Riddelly;.20:58
jjesse?20:58
jjesseonly for things in applications20:58
Riddell876u20:59
jjessesorry don't understand what you are typing20:59
smarterRiddell: you have exactly the same font in qtconfig-qt3 and qtconfig-qt4 ?21:02
_StefanS_Riddell: is there a way to ignore the reverse-patches section when doing debuild ? (I'm changing the source, so thats why it cant reverse them)21:03
smarter_StefanS_: -nc ?21:04
Riddelldebuild -nc21:04
_StefanS_Riddell: well I need to clean the project since i want some of the files regenerated21:04
Riddellmake clean21:05
smarter_StefanS_: do "debian/rules clean" first21:05
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_StefanS_smarter: it makes the same reverse-patches error.. but i guess issuing a debuild -nc after it, will be just as good21:06
Riddellcats >:(21:06
jjesseoh wow... my dog just farted something nasty21:07
jjessegagh21:07
_StefanS_Riddell: actually it seems like the errors appears when it copies the stuff into obj-486, do you know where this happens?21:08
awen_ScottK: around?21:15
awen_ScottK: have been trying to reinstall knetworkmanager / network-manager while connected to a WPA network... it disconnected, but choosing the network again, and it connects as it should; and no errors is thrown to the syslog21:16
smarterWhat is the system-wide configuration file for Qt4?21:19
fdovingsmarter: like /etc/qt3/qtrc or similar?21:21
smarteryes, but for qt421:21
awen_ScottK: and you made an error on the last upload of kde-guidance... you based it on the wrong *ubuntu8 diff.gz so you "destroyed" the changes regarding suspend+brightness buttons again21:21
awen_ScottK: you should be able to reinsert it using this debdiff: http://awen.dk/packages/gpmhelper/kde-guidance_0.8.0svn20080103-0ubuntu8.debdiff (you probably wan't to change the version and mingle with the changelog, but it should apply)... or tell me if I should prepare a new debdiff where the patch/changes are reinserted?21:27
awen_ScottK: it doesn't seem that anything of yours are missing... but you might want to check it21:30
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_StefanS_Riddell: its compiling now, seems that something was b0rked in the obj-486. Adding the patches prior to issuing the first debuild..21:37
_StefanS_Riddell: makes it work.21:37
ryanakcaRiddell: Monthly archive (similar to a blog, which is similar to what u.c is going for), or Press Room like u.c?21:51
apacheloggerryanakca: technically saied we don't have a press room21:52
apacheloggersince we don21:52
apachelogger't have press releases21:52
ryanakcaapachelogger: lol, ok.21:53
ryanakcaapachelogger: so I'm guessing your vote is for the monthly archive?21:53
* jpatrick goes to bed, g'night21:54
ryanakcanight jpatrick21:54
apacheloggeryeah, something like that :)21:54
apacheloggernini jpatrick21:54
jjessegood night jpatrick21:54
jpatrickryanakca: have a break from the great work on the site and remember: http://ryanakca.youaremighty.com/21:54
ryanakcajpatrick: lol, ty :)21:55
jjessequick question will Juk install the codecs automatically if you don'tt have them?22:16
awen_ScottK: ended up re-patching the current kde-guidance myself: http://awen.dk/packages/gpmhelper/kde-guidance_0.8.0svn20080103-0ubuntu10.debdiff ... this is based on the version currently in the archive (so as long as none of yours is missing, this should make things right again) :)22:17
awen_g'night people22:45
awen_ScottK: just ping me tomorrow if you have any questions regarding the kde-guidance22:46
nixternalRiddell: you wouldn't by chance have a copy of the high def version of the intro video Aaron played at the beginning of his KDE 4 release party keynote?23:28
nixternalI am trying to find some updated material so I can complete my presentation for this week23:28
Riddellnixternal: no, you'd need to ask aaron23:31
nixternalhe must be afk this weekend23:32

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