[00:00] <ere4si> !compiz > kkathman
[00:00] <Mooga> I'm back
[00:01] <kkathman> thanks ere4si  interesting ubuntu does ship that and kubuntu doesnt
[00:01] <pcnerd37> Hello
[00:01] <Mooga> I had problems with a db being locked
[00:01] <Mooga> hello
[00:01] <Odd-rationale> hi
[00:01] <Odd-rationale> Mooga: have you tried aptitude?
[00:01] <Mooga> every time
[00:01] <pcnerd37> I am new to linux and google isnt being helpful.  Could somebody point me in the right direction for installing programs, specifically pidgin?
[00:01] <Mooga> both gui and not
[00:02] <Odd-rationale> !apt
[00:02] <Mooga> when using the GUI is staying stuck at 0% for hours
[00:02] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[00:02] <Odd-rationale> pcnerd37: See the link from ubotu
[00:02] <Odd-rationale> pcnerd37: are you using kubuntu or ubuntu?
[00:03] <Odd-rationale> Mooga: what happens if you do "sudo aptitude update"
[00:03] <pcnerd37> kubuntu
[00:03] <Mooga> downloading
[00:03] <Odd-rationale> pcnerd37: kubpidginuntu has kopete which is just about as good (if not better) than
[00:04] <Mooga> done
[00:04] <Mooga> no error
[00:04] <Odd-rationale> pcnerd37: wait. sorry that got messed up.. :?
[00:04] <Mooga> no error
[00:04] <pcnerd37> just a bit, but i understand what you are saying
[00:04] <Odd-rationale> pcnerd37: kubuntu was kopete which is just about as good as pidgin.
[00:04] <Odd-rationale> *has
[00:04] <Mooga> 1 sec...
[00:05] <Odd-rationale> Mooga: Now try "sudo aptitude dist-upgrade"
[00:05] <Mooga_> back
[00:05] <Odd-rationale> Mooga_: now try "sudo aptitude dist-upgrade"
[00:06] <jast-mxm> hey, i messed up my window decorations and kdm crashes all the time now
[00:06] <Mooga_> ok
[00:06] <pcnerd37> kopete would be fine, but for some reason I cant get MSN to work on it
[00:06] <jast-mxm> anyone familiar w/ windows decorations and kde4?
[00:07] <Odd-rationale> !kde4
[00:07] <ubotu> KDE 4.0.2 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.2.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.2.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[00:07] <jast-mxm> like the panel that lets you change from oxygen to plastik, etc
[00:07] <Odd-rationale> jast-mxm: try asking in #kubuntu-kde4
[00:07] <Mooga_> it gives me a y/n promot
[00:07] <jast-mxm> awesome thanks
[00:07] <Mooga_> and I press y
[00:07] <Odd-rationale> pcnerd37: tried amsn?
[00:07] <Odd-rationale> !info amsn
[00:07] <Mooga_> an error or 2
[00:07] <pcnerd37> never heard of it
[00:08] <Odd-rationale> oh, yeah. !info doesnt work anymore...
[00:08] <pcnerd37> I am a windows person that was forced to linux because my laptops recovery cd doesnt work
[00:08] <Mooga_> DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process
[00:08] <jast-mxm> what command are you using mooga?
[00:08] <jast-mxm> ooo
[00:08] <jast-mxm> try this: "sudo killall -9 adept_updater"
[00:09] <Mooga_> I'm chating on my laptop, installing on my desktop :-P
[00:09] <jast-mxm> and try again
[00:09] <Odd-rationale> !aptissues
[00:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aptissues - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:09] <Mooga_> ok
[00:09] <jast-mxm> adept is probably still running in the background
[00:09] <Mooga_> now try updating again?
[00:09] <jast-mxm> yes
[00:09] <Mooga_> gui?
[00:09] <Mooga_> or cmd?
[00:09] <jast-mxm> cmd
[00:10] <Odd-rationale> Mooga_: sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[00:11] <pcnerd37> I have had limited linux experience in the past, mainly with Slackware, but that was years ago so I dont remember much
[00:12] <jast-mxm> hmm
[00:12] <jast-mxm> these people are no help
[00:12] <jast-mxm> no answers at all
[00:12] <Odd-rationale> me?
[00:12] <DarkriftX> how can i change the window resize zone sensitivity?
[00:12] <draik> !nvidia
[00:12] <ubotu> For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[00:12] <DarkriftX> to resize a window, i have to play with getting the mouse in the right spot for sometimes 15 seconds
[00:12] <jast-mxm> odd-rationale: not you the people in kubuntu-kde4
[00:12] <Mooga_> it's working :)
[00:12] <jast-mxm> hurrah
[00:13] <theperryfamily> s this where I can ask questions about the 7.10 to 8.04beta upgrade issues?
[00:13] <jast-mxm> #ubuntu+1
[00:14] <Hydrogen> no.
[00:14] <Mooga_> sweet
[00:14] <Mooga_> I think that's donw
[00:15] <draik> Is anyone using nVidia GeForce 7200GS? If so, how good/bad is it?
[00:15] <Mooga_> now how would I do dual screens with an ATI card?
[00:17] <Mooga_> now how would I do dual screens with an ATI card?
[00:18] <DarkriftX> anyone know how i can change the window resize zone sensitivity?
[00:20] <Mooga_> can anyone help me with dual screens?
[00:20] <ubuntu_> hallo everyone!!
[00:21] <Mooga_> Hello
[00:21] <ubuntu_> if my system (6.06 Dapper Drake) is not loading properly,
[00:21] <tomtom__> Hello
[00:21] <kkathman> is there a compiz channel for detailed cube rotation questions ?
[00:21] <tomtom__> I'm new to kubuntu 7.10
[00:21] <ubuntu_> do I need to reinstall the whole thing_
[00:22] <adude> everytime when i try to run the package manager i get an error saying that the package database is in use
[00:22] <ubuntu_> the error is that cant execute /sbin/getty
[00:22] <Mooga_> I had that
[00:22] <Mooga_> kill apt
[00:22] <tomtom__> I can't access my ntfs drive I heard something about downloading something to be able to mount it
 try this: "sudo killall -9 adept_updater"
[00:22] <jast-mxm> yes?
[00:22] <ubuntu_> and also permission is denied on the file /etc/init.d/rc
[00:23] <tomtom__> is there someone that can help me out?
[00:24] <jast-mxm> ntfsprogs i think
[00:24] <tomtom__> do I just apt get it?
[00:25] <tomtom__> would I type something like "sudo apt-get install ntfsprogs" is that correct for kubuntu 7.10
[00:25]  * jast-mxm waves at Mooga
[00:26] <Mooga> lol
[00:27] <Mooga> jast-mxm: do you know how I could get my dual screens working?
[00:27] <jast-mxm> i am not familiar w/ ati cards, i'm sorry
[00:27] <jast-mxm> i finally got mine working but using the nvidia drivers
[00:27] <Mooga> any idea where to even start?
[00:28] <jast-mxm> i would say ubuntuforums.org they should have some tutorials on there
[00:29] <tomtom__> I've always had issuses with ati cards no matter what OS i was using..
[00:29] <adude> when i run adept installer i get an error saying another process is using the packaging system database
[00:29] <yuri__> alguien me puede ayudar a instalar el skype
[00:30] <ere4si> Mooga: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=81188 - is a howto :)
[00:31] <jeromenz> #ubuntu
[00:32] <Mooga> When I boot up
[00:33] <Mooga> I get an error "No command arguments supplied! Usage: kdesudo [-u <runas>] <command> KdeSudo will not exit...
[00:33] <Roey> hi
[00:33] <Roey> that is all.
[00:34] <adude> when i run adept installer i get an error saying another process is using the packaging system database
[00:34] <adude> any ideas how to sovle that
[00:35] <Mooga> anyone have an exp with ati cards?
[00:36] <Mooga> I can't change any display settings
[00:49] <Alphonsewolf> it will be possible to upgrade from dapper 6.06 to the new 8.04 ?
[00:50] <Mooga> can anyone help me with ATI drivers
[00:50] <Mooga> I can't change any of my graphic settings
[00:50] <Mooga> nor can I find most of them
[00:50] <Mooga> I'm using kde4 and I have an ATI card
[00:51] <tomtom__> Will someone please help me, Database Locked it says another process is using the packaging system database.. so I've restarted and still says same thing
[00:51] <carlos_> español
[00:51] <carlos_> español
[00:51] <carlos_> hola que tal
[00:51] <carlos_> como estan?
[00:52] <carlos_> cual es el chat en español
[00:54] <Alphonsewolf> no se, pero tambien hablo espaniol
[00:54] <Alphonsewolf> hallo!!
[00:59] <Mooga> can anyone help with videocard isues?
[02:01] <Alphonsewolf> Mooga: not sure of it, but it might help you this http://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=38574513
[02:02] <Mooga> I saw one walkthrough
[02:02] <Mooga> but I couldn't even do the first step
[02:02] <AMcBain> Hi. I forgot how to mount my seagate external hdd, and I finally need it again. Dolphin and Konqueror both tell me "hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 1000" when I try and use them. Konsole says there is nothing on it (impossible) and I remember having to just type a few mount commands and it would work for a few hours. I need it because I need to get everything off of this PC for a transfer.
[02:02] <Mooga> stufdf was missing
[02:05] <Artimus> AMcBain: NTFS?
[02:05] <AMcBain> Yes. But Linux should be able to handle NTFS ...
[02:06] <tomtom__> Can Someone please help me, I'm not able to install any programs or anything because Adept manager keeps saying database is locked another process is using the packaging system database.. what should I do?
[02:06] <Artimus> AMcBain: If I remember correctly, that error usually means you didn't unmount the drive properly in Windows.
[02:06] <Artimus> (or osx/linux, for that matter)
[02:06] <AMcBain> Well I don't really have a choice ... Kubunbtu will silently drop the mount after several hours anyways (iirc)
[02:07] <Alphonsewolf> tomtom: have you tried with the apt kill command?
[02:07] <Fa> i'm using ubuntu 8 beta with kde 4 installed
[02:07] <Alphonsewolf> look for more info on the terminal for that command
[02:07] <tomtom__> well I'm new to linux.. but I did a full reboot
[02:08] <AMcBain> nevermind. I got it mounted, for a few hours anyways.
[02:09] <tomtom__> how?
[02:09] <tomtom__> I'm trying
[02:12] <tomtom__> I did nothing but install Kubuntu.. and now I can't do anything because its being used by another process yet there isn't another process that i can kill when I type ps all and try killing all of them.. none of them can be killed be sides the terminal window.. What must I do?
[02:13] <inaety> can i create an iso of an audio cd so that i can just burn it to a disc with that iso from k3b
[02:15] <tomtom__> Hello.. so I take it no one can help me?... even with all these users no one knows my problem....
[02:17] <Mooga> can anyone help with videocard isues?
[02:21] <Mooga> does anyone know ho to turn on tab-compleation is bash?
[02:23] <kmaxtor> hello
[02:23] <kmaxtor> any available for KOPETE
[02:25] <kmaxtor> :)
[02:25] <Mooga> "status database area is locked
[02:25] <Mooga> I got it :-p
[02:26] <kmaxtor> what up MOOGA
[02:26] <kmaxtor> are still locke up your apt
[02:27] <kmaxtor> why?
[02:27] <Mooga> no
[02:27] <Mooga> I got that working
[02:27] <Mooga> I'm having videocard problems
[02:27] <Artimus> anyone use vmware/  i'm having a problem, it keeps locking my shift key.  i'm unable to use my shift key until i restart x.  it works ok inside of vmware.  i hate this...
[02:27] <Mooga> I've got an ATI card
[02:28] <Mooga> I have no idea how to get things working right
[02:28] <Mooga> the resolotion needs to be fixed
[02:28] <Mooga> and dual screen suport
[02:28] <Mooga> any ideas kmaxtor?
[02:28] <kmaxtor> consult the expert
[02:29] <Mooga> google?
[02:29] <Mooga> I have no idea where to start :(
[02:29] <kmaxtor> try to edit your resioistories in open your apy
[02:29] <Mooga> ...I have no idea what that means :(
[02:30] <Mooga> I tried to use Envy but don't know how to install it
[02:30] <Mooga> it says I need other stuff
[02:30] <kmaxtor> try to etc/apt/
[02:31] <kmaxtor> i mean try to open your folder /etc/apt
[02:31] <kmaxtor> then edit your source.list
[02:32] <Mooga> what do i add there?
[02:33] <kmaxtor> edit kwrite
[02:33] <kmaxtor> sources.list files
[02:34] <kmaxtor> you touch the reposiritoires?
[02:34] <Mooga> no....
[02:34] <Mooga> should I?
[02:34] <Mooga> I'm confused, sorry :(
[02:35] <kmaxtor> are u F
[02:35] <kmaxtor> or male
[02:35] <Mooga> Male
[02:35] <Mooga> I think I got this actualy....
[02:39] <Mooga> oh nice
[02:39] <Mooga> I think I got envy working
[02:40] <Mooga> envyng*
[02:42] <Mooga> any time I can make the clock use AM/PM instead of military time?
[02:47] <Mooga> I'm having more video driver problems
[02:47] <Mooga> I installed dirvers with envyng
[02:48] <Mooga> and now I rebooted
[02:48] <Mooga> my screen is just black
[02:49] <justinchudgar> 'lo
[02:49] <Mooga> hello
[02:49] <justinchudgar> Anyone tried using stackless python?
[02:53] <Mooga> I used envyng to install drivers and now all I see is a black screen
[02:53] <Mooga> is there is a way to un-break this?
[02:57] <Mooga> can anyone help with video drivers
[02:59] <justinchudgar> as far as the video drivers go, i've always just installed them through apt-get install <driver-name>
[02:59] <justinchudgar> can you get to a console on that box?
[03:01] <blkhtbrigade> I have a wireless card (realtek 8180) that I downloaded the realtek drivers for.  I installed them and they work, but when I reboot and try to use the wlan it locks my system.  I can run a script they have (in the download folder) to take wlan0 down, and then another to reload the drivers and everything works again.  How would I just add that script to startup so I don't have to do it manually?  Or is there a better way to do it?
[03:06] <mike__> hi
[03:07] <tomtom__> Ok now I really do need someones help I think my fstab isn't right because my secondary hard drive isn't even listed.. which is my ntfs drive.. which also is hdb
[03:08] <tomtom__> well dev/hdb1
[03:09] <tomtom__> so How would I go about fixing the fstab without screwing up the computer?
[03:09] <chromium> um. sorry, newer-ish user here... but I have something weird I don't know about.
[03:09] <BunnyRevolution> k, i've asked this b4.  is there a way to reconfigure x?  something like "dpkg --reconfigure xserver.xorg" ... cept that one is not working
[03:10] <chromium> my desktop now has icons for every folder in my root folder. worse, they're unremovable by rm (in any way)
[03:10] <Mooga> what drivers should I install?
[03:10] <chromium> does anyone have any ideas how the heck I could make these... just... disappear?
[03:12] <tomtom__> Chromium do you remember what you were doing before they showed up?
[03:16] <Boohbah> if i sudo apt-get install kubuntu-kde4-desktop will i still be able to use kde3?
[03:16] <Mooga> can anyone help with video drivers and kde4?
[03:16] <BunnyRevolution> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:20] <tomtom__> Chromium I can't seem to find any information on what caused the problem, I'm still looking though on how to fix it
[03:38] <tomtom__> blah I give up Chromium sorry i didn't find any info
[03:39] <jast-mxm> where do your updates download to?
[03:39] <tomtom__> hey jast do you know how to add another hdd to fstab so it can be mounted?
[03:39] <Jucato> !fstab
[03:39] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[03:39] <Jucato> tomtom__: ^^^
[03:39] <tomtom__> thanks so much
[03:39] <jast-mxm> lol jucato has gots it
[03:40] <Jucato> I would recommend the Disk & Filesystems utility in System Settings... but I think there are some bugs in it...
[03:40] <tomtom__> well I tried mounting it
[03:40] <jast-mxm> so er...how about my question ^_^
[03:40] <tomtom__> but come to find out its not in my fstab
[03:40] <tomtom__> but my computer reconizes it so yeah
[03:41] <tomtom__> its just an ntsf drive i need to add to it hdb is its device name
[03:42] <ryan-c> What's a good password management application?  Will kwallet let me view passwords stored in it?
[03:43] <Jucato> jast-mxm: anything you install through APT is downloaded in /var/cache/apt/archives
[03:43] <Jucato> ryan-c: yep. run kwalletmanager
[03:43] <jast-mxm> ty
[03:43] <ryan-c> Jucato: Any way to get it to talk to firefox?
[03:43] <Jucato> ah that's the problem.. only for KDE apps I think
[03:44] <Jucato> ryan-c: firefox has its own password manager
[03:44] <ryan-c> Yeah, I know.
[03:44] <ryan-c> I would LIKE to have something that integrates with firefox and also allows me to store other stuff if possible.
[03:45] <ryan-c> right now, I have a text file with my passwords in it.
[03:45] <jast-mxm> you can use pastebin.com
[03:45] <ryan-c> :P
[03:45] <jast-mxm> hehe
[03:45] <jast-mxm> totally secure, i swear
[03:45] <ryan-c> my disk is encrypted :P
[03:46] <dave11> does kSpread have the millenium bug..when I type 2008 into a field it changes it  to 1905???
[03:48] <tomtom__> can someone check an fstab of mine and see if I added the hdb drive correctly?
[03:50] <tomtom__> well i added this line to it is this correct /dev/hdb        /media/hdb	auto iocharset=utf8,umask=000 0 0
[03:51] <jast-mxm> anyone here have experience w/ plasma?
[03:51] <jast-mxm> rather what install files in apt are associated w/ it?
[03:56] <jhutchins> Blood plasma or electrical plasma?
[03:56] <dave11> is there a koffice channel?
[03:56] <jhutchins> #koffice
[03:57] <dave11> thanks
[03:57] <jhutchins> The question is, is anyone useful in there?
[03:58] <dextorb> Hello.
[03:58] <Odd-rationale> hi
[03:58] <kkathman> hi :)
[03:58] <hoodow> hi dextorb!
[03:58] <dextorb> Hi hoodow. ;)
[04:01] <dextorb> I have a problem, I am using a very old monitor (14" CRT). By trying to start kubuntu (7.10) install cd, it only results in a black screen, i think, it uses a frenquency my crt doesn't support, can I force to use just e.g. 72Hz?
[04:03] <hoodow> dextorb: try gentoo!
[04:03] <hoodow> :>
[04:03] <dextorb> hoodow: Hrhr. ;)
[04:04]  * hoodow shoots a luchs
[04:04] <rainx79> I'm going insane I'm still getting this error "hal-storage-fixed-mount-all-options refused uid 1000" when I try and mount my secondary hardrive.. this is what I put in my fstab to see if that was the problem "/dev/hdb        /media/hdb	ntfs ro,user,auto,noexec 0 0"
[04:05] <rainx79> any ideas
[04:05] <Odd-rationale> rainx79: gutsy?
[04:05] <jhutchins> rainx79: users
[04:05] <jhutchins> you have no space between hdb and ntfs.
[04:05] <rainx79> huh well I don't understand much lol i'm trying my best and I'm using kubuntu 7.10
[04:06] <jhutchins> !ntfs | rainx79
[04:06] <ubotu> rainx79: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE
[04:06] <Odd-rationale> rainx79: hardy will have that fix, i believe
[04:06] <rainx79> yes i do
[04:07] <rainx79> theres a space in my fstab
[04:07] <jhutchins> rainx79: Ok, it pasted funny here.
[04:07] <jhutchins> rainx79: Your problem is you didn't give users the permissions to mount it.
[04:07] <rainx79> oh
[04:07] <jhutchins> rainx79: so you can mount it via sudo, but not as a regular user.
[04:08] <jhutchins> rainx79: It should mount fine at boot (auto).
[04:08] <rainx79> i just tried sudo mount hdb
[04:08] <rainx79> I think I know what the problem may be
[04:08] <jhutchins> refused uid 1000 - that says you can't mount it as the first regular user.
[04:10] <rainx79> i forgot how to edit the fstab as root..
[04:10] <rainx79> i know its something like kdesu or something
[04:10] <jhutchins> kdesu kate
[04:11] <jhutchins> or sudo vi
[04:13] <rainx79> well now i did sudo mount hdb and now my terminal like froze
[04:13] <rainx79> at first it said no final new line at the end of /etc/fstab
[04:13] <jhutchins> Interesting.
[04:14] <rainx79> and hdb didn't exist.. in mtab or fstab so im lost
[04:14] <jhutchins> rainx79: ctrl-c?
[04:14] <rainx79> well I knew how to close it
[04:14] <jhutchins> rainx79: One doesn't usually mount whole devices, usually you mount hdb1 or more.
[04:14] <rainx79> oh..
[04:14] <rainx79> that might be my mistake
[04:16] <rainx79> no.. I just really need help
[04:16] <rainx79> so much unusual stuff I have no clue what means lol..
[04:17] <jast-mxm> have you tried sdb
[04:17] <rainx79> sdb?
[04:17] <jast-mxm> rainx70: what is the output of mount?
[04:17] <rainx79> when I do fdisk -l its listed as hdb1
[04:17] <jast-mxm> oh ok
[04:18] <jast-mxm> nvm lol
[04:18] <rainx79> I've googled all i could now I'm at a loss
[04:18] <rainx79> I could paste my fstab on that one site i do not remember what its called now
[04:18] <rainx79> and see if I made some mistakes or something
[04:19] <jast-mxm> the drive is ntfs?
[04:19] <rainx79> yes
[04:19] <jast-mxm> lemme look at mine
[04:19] <rainx79> ok
[04:20] <jast-mxm> hmm mine is mounted by uuid but here is what i have
[04:20] <jast-mxm> # /dev/sda3
[04:20] <jast-mxm> UUID=0880628980627D56 /media/sda3     ntfs    defaults,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[04:21] <dextorb> rainx79: Did you already replace hdb with hdb1 in your fstab?
[04:21] <jast-mxm> you can probably replace the UUID=23412341234 with /dev/hdb1
[04:21] <rainx79> yes I did
[04:21] <dextorb> Ah, ok.
[04:21] <FFForever> how can i use my new ipod classic with ubuntu, the default app won't play any of its music and amarok destroyed my play list :(
[04:21] <rainx79> and now it says it doesnt exist.. do i need to do with something with the mtab
[04:22] <jast-mxm> my mtab: /dev/sda3 /media/sda3 fuseblk rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,allow_other,default_permissions,blksize=4096 0 0
[04:23] <jast-mxm> replace sda3 w/ hdb1
[04:23] <FFForever> what should i use for meh ipod?
[04:23] <rainx79> well i was gonna state hdb1 isn't even in my mtab
[04:24] <jast-mxm> lol
[04:25] <rainx79> well I tried adding what you have.. and doing sudo mount hdb1 now the terminal is like frozen again
[04:26] <rainx79> of course after replaceing sda3 with hdb1
[04:26] <FFForever> any clue?
[04:31] <hellhound> is there any reason why browsing my files would be very sluggish... i did not see anything weird in top
[04:34] <andres> alguien me puede ayudar con la configuracion
[04:34] <andres> alguien me puede ayudar con la configuracion de mi ubuntu
[04:37] <andres> alguien me puede ayudar con mi configuracion de kubuntu
[04:37] <DarkriftX> !de andres
[04:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about de andres - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:37] <DarkriftX> !de | andres
[04:37] <ubotu> andres: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[04:37] <DarkriftX> erm
[04:37] <DarkriftX> !es | andres
[04:37] <ubotu> andres: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[04:37] <DarkriftX> there we go i think
[04:38] <andres> thanks
[04:38] <DarkriftX> yw
[04:40] <dextorb> DarkriftX: I was wondering about me and my relationship to my mother tongue. ;D
[04:40] <rainx79> blah.. Still no information on what I should do My hard drive is hdb1 its ntfs and i have installed ntfs-config and ntfsprogs my drive is not in the /etc/fstab nor the /etc/mtab
[04:40] <hellhound> is there anything i can do or check to speed up kubuntu... one of my three desktops (the one being used solely as a samba server) is incredibly slow
[04:42] <DarkriftX> :S
[04:42]  * DarkriftX doesnt wanna know about your mothers tongue (lol)
[04:43] <dextorb> ;)
[04:43] <DarkriftX> and dont ask where the de came from... im still trying to figure that one out
[04:44] <DarkriftX> i need to find an image from a movie, but dont want to download the movie to get it
[04:46] <hellhound> is there anything i can do or check to speed up kubuntu... one of my three desktops (the one being used solely as a samba server) is incredibly slow
[04:47] <andres> how can i config my pppoe conect
[04:47] <ign0ramus> stupid question: how do i register nick on Konversation?
[04:48] <neville_>  /msg nickserv register password
[04:48] <neville_> I think.
[04:48] <ign0ramus> neville_: i'll try thanks
[04:48] <andres> yes, but it is process very large
[04:48] <rainx79> your right neville
[04:48] <neville_> ^____________^
[04:48] <andres> i need conection automatic
[04:54] <matt__> just installed kubuntu 64 bit, working GREAT, but flash is a pain. I am/tried gnash, but it doesn't seem to be working fully...any suggestions?
[04:57] <rainx79> I don't get this
[04:57] <rainx79> with ubuntu.. it added automatically and i could mount it read only but with kubuntu.. I can't seem to get it mounted at all
[04:59] <matt__> just installed kubuntu 64 bit, working GREAT, but flash is a pain. I am/tried gnash, but it doesn't seem to be working fully...any suggestions?
[05:00] <dextorb> Goodbye.
[05:03] <adz21c> matt__: the adobe flash plugin should work ok if you have nspluginwrapper installed
[05:09] <hellhound> is there anything else besides top that could tell me why my kubuntu samba server is running slow?  It seems to run normally in spurts though so I think something is slowing it down either hardware or software
[05:20] <manuel__> tengo un problemita si me pueden ayudar
[05:20] <Jucato> !es
[05:20] <ubotu> Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[05:21] <toyo|desk> hello
[05:22] <kkathman> hi
[05:22] <toyo|desk> I just installed lmms the music program to see how it worked...and when I go to run it from the command line it sorta pops up the splash screen then crashes with
[05:22] <toyo|desk> could not set realtime priority.
[05:22] <toyo|desk> Killed
[05:22] <toyo|desk> :/
[05:22] <toyo|desk> not sure what to do
[05:23] <kkathman> not familiar with lmms - is that a variant of xmms ?
[05:24] <toyo|desk> lmms is kinda the linux version of fruity loops
[05:24] <kkathman> ahhh
[05:24] <kkathman> ok
[05:24] <kkathman> did you install from the repositories ?
[05:24] <toyo|desk> yeah
[05:24] <toyo|desk> I just did sudo apt-get install lmms
[05:25] <toyo|desk> and it installed
[05:25] <kkathman> hmm ok...so doubtful that there's a mismatch then
[05:25] <kkathman> toyo|desk:  trying running it from the console and see if it gives you any error messages
[05:25] <toyo|desk> thats what I did
[05:26] <toyo|desk> and it said could not set realtime priority killed
[05:26] <toyo|desk> greg@p4killa:~$ lmms
[05:26] <toyo|desk> could not set realtime priority.
[05:26] <toyo|desk> Killed
[05:26] <toyo|desk> see
[05:26] <toyo|desk> :)
[05:26] <kkathman> hmm sounds like either a bad package or there's a bug
[05:26] <kkathman> is there a website for lmms ?? maybe they have a solution there?
[05:27] <toyo|desk> http://lmms.sourceforge.net/
[05:27] <toyo|desk> I will have a look
[05:27] <kkathman> maybe email the author too
[05:27] <adz21c> toyo|desk: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lmms/+bug/139721/+viewstatus
[05:27] <kkathman> or - you could always check the kubuntu forums and then file a bug perhaps
[05:28] <kkathman> ahh there we gp
[05:28] <kkathman> thanks adz21c
[05:28] <adz21c> np
[05:28] <toyo|desk> hmm but mine dosent spit out all that
[05:28] <toyo|desk> :/
[05:28] <adz21c> the X stuff it spits out is a different unrelated issue :)
[05:29] <toyo|desk> oooh
[05:29] <toyo|desk> hmm
[05:29] <adz21c> but it could still be diff cos of the seg fault error msg
[05:29] <toyo|desk> well damn
[05:29] <toyo|desk> :(
[05:30] <toyo|desk> how to I know what version of the deb I have?
[05:30] <toyo|desk> is there a command
[05:30] <Jucato> apt-cache policy <packagename>
[05:30] <toyo|desk> k
[05:30] <Jucato> er wait, did you download a .deb or used the one in the repos?
[05:31] <toyo|desk> used the repo
[05:31] <Jucato> ah then right command
[05:31] <toyo|desk> I am about to download one and see if its broke too
[05:32] <toyo|desk> oh wait
[05:32] <toyo|desk> nvm
[05:32] <toyo|desk> thats the same package
[05:32] <toyo|desk> lol
[05:32] <toyo|desk> ah here we go
[05:34] <toyo|desk> erg
[05:34] <toyo|desk> stupid dependencies
[05:34] <kkathman> anyone here really good with compiz ?
[05:35] <Dr_willis> define good.. :)
[05:35] <Dr_willis> all i know i put in the !compiz wiki page.
[05:35] <Dr_willis> !compiz
[05:35] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[05:35] <Jucato> kkathman: I bet the #compiz-fusion people are :)
[05:36] <kkathman> Jucato: well, they seem to all be asleep
[05:36] <kkathman> there is some setting that allows you to drag a window to another face of the cube and it turns the cube automatically when you do
[05:36] <kkathman> but I forgot what setting it is
[05:37] <toyo|desk> cube edges
[05:37] <toyo|desk> maybe
[05:38] <kkathman> ahh its under rotate cube - edge flip
[05:39] <toyo|desk> thats the one
[05:39] <kkathman> you were close :) thanks!
[05:39] <toyo|desk> :)
[05:39] <toyo|desk> knew it had to do with edges
[05:39] <toyo|desk> :P
[05:39] <kkathman> I always forget that one
[05:39] <gothicemogeek> Hey I have a question! I need some emergency help on Kubuntu.
[05:40] <kkathman> lets hear your prob :)
[05:40] <toyo|desk> lol
[05:40] <Daisuke-Laptop> again, nothing's an emergency, unless you have kubuntu running someone's life support equipment
[05:40] <gothicemogeek> I was updating my computer because a whole bunch of updates came in, and it some how updated the hadry alpha test version. Now i constantly have a full screen terminal window all the time. How do I get it back to gusty?
[05:40] <toyo|desk> haha
[05:40] <gothicemogeek> and xP I actually have some one on life support right now whos a father of a friend of mine :(
[05:40] <toyo|desk> nice
[05:41] <Daisuke-Laptop> gothicemogeek: then i hope for a swift recovery
[05:41] <gothicemogeek> he isnt making it tonight. He has neumonia, Lupus which is making his lungs bleed out and eating his intestines, so :(
[05:41] <Daisuke-Laptop> now, be glad it's not windows running the equipment.  that makes the blue screen of death quite literal
[05:41] <gothicemogeek> anyway, how do I get it back to gusty gibbon? xP
[05:41] <gothicemogeek> yeah no kidding.
[05:42] <Daisuke-Laptop> gothicemogeek: if it updated to hardy, you're probably going to have to do a reinstall
[05:42] <gothicemogeek> ugh. really.
[05:42] <gothicemogeek> and i dont have the disk for it right now.
[05:43] <gothicemogeek> is there another way possibly to get it downgraded to gutsy without a reinstall?
[05:43] <Dr_willis> weird that it just 'upgraded'
[05:43] <gothicemogeek> it was listed under a 'full upgrade' too.
[05:43] <gothicemogeek> and not a system upgrade like it usually does for me
[05:43] <gothicemogeek> **usually listed
[05:44] <Dr_willis>  as for the fullscreen terminal windows, try some alternative xterms, try resetting your kde settings, try a new user.
[05:44] <gothicemogeek> how do I do all that?
[05:44] <Dr_willis> sounds like a user config/compiz issue to me.
[05:44] <Dr_willis> Make a new user, see if it affects them also. would be a easy place to start
[05:45] <gothicemogeek> but how do I do that?
[05:45] <gothicemogeek> because I can't even get to my desktop.
[05:45] <gothicemogeek> it acts like it is getting there, but then it doesn't.
[05:45] <gothicemogeek> it shows the kubuntu logo and then the loading bar, but never gets to the desktop login screen
[05:46] <gothicemogeek> instead it goes to the full screen terminal window.
[05:46] <snowolf> gothicemogeek: you're on hardy?
[05:46] <gothicemogeek> saying issued like no start up image or something like that
[05:46] <gothicemogeek> i am now when I was on gusty before. it upgraded my computer to that undr a full upgrade to the hardy alpha test version
[05:46] <gothicemogeek> and i need to get it downgraded back to gusty
[05:46] <snowolf> !hardy | gothicemogeek
[05:46] <ubotu> gothicemogeek: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[05:47] <Dr_willis> ahhhh
[05:47] <Dr_willis> gothicemogeek,  i think you are meaning the CONSOLE.
[05:47] <gothicemogeek> yeah xP sorry I am new to all of this.
[05:47] <Dr_willis> that sounds like the  video card drivers need to get updated/reconfogured
[05:47] <Dr_willis> what is your video card?
[05:47] <gothicemogeek> okay so I guess I need to go to #ubuntu+1?
[05:48] <Dr_willis> if you are refering to a screen that just has a login: prompt. :) thats the console.
[05:48] <gothicemogeek> yes! thats what it is :D
[05:49] <gothicemogeek> and I don't know what my video card is. I know I have one xP
[05:49] <Dr_willis> lspci command gives some of that info.
[05:49] <gothicemogeek> okay.
[05:49] <Dr_willis> the 'startx' command may also give a clue as to whats going on.
[05:49] <gothicemogeek> -writes it down-
[05:50] <Dr_willis> you CAN irc from the console also. :)
[05:50] <gothicemogeek> and snow, I went to the ubuntu+1 room and it told me to go here.
[05:50] <Dr_willis> install irssi.
[05:50] <gothicemogeek> I cant get internet connection from it
[05:50] <gothicemogeek> ive tried.
[05:50] <Dr_willis> wireless networking?
[05:50] <gothicemogeek> yeah i have tried, but it wont connect to it
[05:50] <gothicemogeek> it says it has an issue or something
[05:50] <Dr_willis> theres a command to reconfigure the X server. but i never can rember it...
[05:50] <Dr_willis> dpkg-reconfgure   SOMTHING.. :)
[05:51] <gothicemogeek> yeah. -thinks-
[05:51] <gothicemogeek> reconfigure hardy? or sumtin?
[05:51] <Wrath> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver
[05:51] <Wrath> i think
[05:51] <gothicemogeek> ok
[05:51] <Dr_willis> If you dont even know what video card you have... well... thats a very fundamental thing ya need to figure out.
[05:52] <gothicemogeek> *nods* and those two codes like lspci will tell me what it is?
[05:52] <Dr_willis> they say whats on the system
[05:52] <gothicemogeek> ahh okay
[05:52] <gothicemogeek> good then
[05:52] <Dr_willis> is this a laptop? or desktop?
[05:52] <gothicemogeek> desktop
[05:53] <gothicemogeek> had a friend install kubuntu gutsy on it for me.
[05:53] <gothicemogeek> **feisty before i updated it to gutsy
[05:53] <gothicemogeek> and its built for wireless networking
[05:53] <Dr_willis> i dont 'do' wireless.. :) for many reasons.. heh
[05:53] <Dr_willis> you are experinecing one reason now...
[05:54] <gothicemogeek> *nods* yup. xP and I dont like it.
[05:54] <Dr_willis> you could boot to XP and see what IT saya the video card is.. :)
[05:54] <gothicemogeek> so i will try those commands, figure out what my video card is, and come back empty handed xD
[05:54] <gothicemogeek> yeah but would I need a disk for that too?
[05:54] <Wrath> Yea, i've im about ready to throw my computer at something because of wireless
[05:54] <kkathman> ouch
[05:54] <prince_jammys> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:54] <Dr_willis> need a disk? You have only Linux on the box?
[05:55] <Dr_willis> gothicemogeek,  jot down and try the command prince_jammys  said.
[05:55] <gothicemogeek> Yes. Only Linux.
[05:55] <gothicemogeek> It USED to be windows.
[05:55] <kkathman> prince_jammys:  yeah thats worth a shot at least
[05:55] <gothicemogeek> I did willis. thanks.
[05:55] <gothicemogeek> i wrote everythign down the first second I saw it xP
[05:55] <Dr_willis> gothicemogeek,  you could also boot a live cd.. but even then.. wireless will be the hassle.
[05:55] <gothicemogeek> been doing this for a month now
[05:55] <gothicemogeek> *nods*
[05:55] <gothicemogeek> but the computer used to be windows until I had it fixed with Linux.
[05:56] <Dr_willis> got some guye mad at work when i tole them to quit bending over backwards for wireless.. and run some &#&@&@! wires.
[05:56] <gothicemogeek> and my friend is making a live cd for me for linux, but like I said. my friend jennifers dad is dying tonight and he has not been able to finish it or send it to me yet.
[05:56] <Dr_willis> so he ran wires... and said to me the other day 'Best thing he ever did'
[05:56] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:56] <gothicemogeek> lol
[05:56] <gothicemogeek> i wish i could plug it in with wires, but it wasnt set up to do like dsl or stuff like that.
[05:57] <Dr_willis> Speed improved, less lag, even the porn looked better, and his hair quit falling out.
[05:57] <gothicemogeek> brb
[05:57] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:57] <Dr_willis> cured his dogs  rabies!
[05:58] <Dr_willis> bbl
[05:59] <Wrath> wireless seems to be one of the major problems with linux, im usually stuck trying to get it to work though because i have a laptop
[05:59] <gothicemogeek> okay it said the xorg-xserver was not installed on it
[06:00] <Wrath> its xserver-xorg
[06:00] <Jucato> Wrath: mostly depends on the wireless card/device and the drivers for it
[06:00] <gothicemogeek> oh. xP -goes back-
[06:00] <Wrath> Yea, I have a broadcom 4318 in here tho :x
[06:01] <Stoffer> do you think it's fine to install the kubutnu 8.04 beta, or should I wait for the stable version to come out?
[06:01] <Stoffer> I'd rather not wait any longer unless there's a good reason for it
[06:01] <Jucato> Wrath: ah.. tough luck :)
[06:01] <gothicemogeek> it said that the xserver-xorg wasnt installed. *grr!*
[06:01] <Jucato> Stoffer: wait :)
[06:02] <gothicemogeek> so i would guess i will have to reinstall the whole thing?
[06:02] <gothicemogeek> with a live cd or sumtin?
[06:02] <Wrath> gothicemogeek: are you in X right now?
[06:02] <gothicemogeek> x...?
[06:02] <Wrath> I guess so .. you arent stuck at a console are you?
[06:02] <gothicemogeek> I am
[06:03] <gothicemogeek> a full screen console window
[06:03] <gothicemogeek> and it wont load to the desktop and thats what I want it to do
[06:03] <Stoffer> Jucato, it'll only be a few weeks, right?
[06:03] <gothicemogeek> because of the stupid hardy update xP
[06:03] <Jucato> Stoffer: 2 weeks most probably
[06:03] <Stoffer> Jucato, good.  I'm getting tired of the errors and glitches my system's throwing at me
[06:04] <Stoffer> i'm growing impatient
[06:04] <Wrath> if it says x isnt installed at all, you can probably try: apt-get install xserver-xorg
[06:04] <gothicemogeek> ok
[06:04] <gothicemogeek> -goes to try-
[06:04] <Stoffer> Jucato, thanks
[06:05] <Matt1728> can any one help me make the entire panel transparent
[06:05] <Jucato> Matt1728: KDE 3.5?
[06:06] <maduser> its in the pannel settings
[06:06] <Jucato> right-click on the panel -> Configure Panel -> Appearance
[06:07] <Matt1728> that doesnt make it entirely transparent though
[06:07] <Matt1728> oh it was in advanced
[06:08] <kkathman> appearance - desktop - panel = its in the last tab
[06:08] <gothicemogeek> "could not open lock file: /var/lib/dpkg-open (13 permission denied). Unable to lock admin directory /var/lib/dpkg. are you root?"
[06:08] <kkathman> yeah there are many bugs in panels in KDE
[06:09] <kkathman> gothicemogeek:  must execute at sudo level
[06:09] <gothicemogeek> I did that too.
[06:09] <Jucato> kkathman: bugs?
[06:09] <Wrath> you tried: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg
[06:09] <Jucato> with appearance?
[06:09] <gothicemogeek> "you must run dpkg --configure -a to correct the problem"
[06:09] <gothicemogeek> yes.
[06:09] <gothicemogeek> it would not download.
[06:10] <Wrath> did u try to do: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[06:10] <gothicemogeek> not yet.
[06:10] <gothicemogeek> -goes to try-
[06:10] <kkathman> download?
[06:11] <kkathman> should be part of the dpkg - had to do that yesterday in fact when my upgrades didnt go through
[06:11] <gothicemogeek> "requested operation requres superuser privilage"
[06:11] <Wrath> did u try to do: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[06:11] <kkathman> sudo
[06:11] <Wrath> w/ sudo?
[06:11] <gothicemogeek> yes.
[06:11] <gothicemogeek> -goes to try again-
[06:12] <kkathman> be sure to put the spaces in
[06:13] <kkathman> anyone know the name of the adept icon pgm that notifies you when there are new updates?
[06:13] <Wrath> adept-notifier ?
[06:13] <kkathman> heh I didnt try that ;)
[06:13] <gothicemogeek> okay
[06:13] <Wrath> well adept_notifier i think
[06:14] <gothicemogeek> "parse error in the file '/var/lib/dpkg/updates/0075' near line 21 package 'strigi-applet': EOF after field name"
[06:15] <gothicemogeek> and I used the sudo. the first time I had it spelled wrong.
[06:15] <Jucato> gothicemogeek: you can auto complete commands by pressing tab btw
[06:15] <gothicemogeek> oh xP didnt know that
[06:15] <Jucato> so sud<Tab> would auto complete to sudo
[06:15] <gothicemogeek> okay
[06:16] <gothicemogeek> -goes to tyr-
[06:16] <Jucato> gothicemogeek: same here in chat. press Tab to autocomplete nicknames
[06:16] <Jucato> like got<Tab> to complete gothicemogeek
[06:16] <Jucato> (it's a wonder my tab key's text isn't worn out yet...)
[06:17] <Wrath> Jucato: I was on irc long before i used linux, thats how i figured out about the linux tab completion
[06:17] <Jucato> heh :)
[06:18] <kkathman> Jucato:  lol
[06:18] <gothicemogeek> so it would be sudo dpkg --configure -a <tab>...? xP
[06:18] <gothicemogeek> or how would it be? -ish frustrated-
[06:18] <Jucato> sud<tab> dp<tab> --conf<tab> -a
[06:19] <gothicemogeek> okay.
[06:19] <Jucato> (not sure about the --conf<tab> part though.. but..)
[06:19] <Wrath> it just makes it easier to type
[06:19] <Wrath> hes just telling you how to type the command you just did more easily i think
[06:19] <gothicemogeek> ahh okay
[06:19] <gothicemogeek> so then what do I do know since it had an error like this....
[06:20] <Wrath> try: sudo dpkg-reconfigure dpkg
[06:20] <gothicemogeek> okay
[06:20] <gothicemogeek> "parse error in the file '/var/lib/dpkg/updates/0075' near line 21 package 'strigi-applet': EOF after field name"
[06:20] <Jucato> hm... sounds like an update package error
[06:20] <Wrath> yea i was looking at http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-501026.html to get that
[06:20] <Jucato> might want to try asking in #ubuntu+1 btw. maybe it's a known issue
[06:20] <gothicemogeek> ive tried. they told me to come here.
[06:20] <gothicemogeek> -___-;;;
[06:21] <Jucato> O.o
[06:21] <Dr_willis> im still not sure how you got updated to hardy...
[06:21] <Wrath> i'm using the beta and the only thing i cant get to work is the wireless :s
[06:21] <Dr_willis> with the beta - my wireless FINIALLY started working. :)
[06:21] <Jucato> Wrath: bcom curse :P
[06:21] <Wrath> yup, this time its actually a known bug
[06:22] <Wrath> because there is like 5 different kernel modules for the stupid card
[06:22] <Dr_willis> Now ya know why i run wires. :)
[06:22] <Dr_willis> i even got the bathroom wired.
[06:23] <Wrath> I usually do, but I'm on a college campus with a laptop and need wireless
[06:23] <Dr_willis> Surf the web while.. shaveing..
[06:23] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:23] <gothicemogeek> it said it needed an action option
[06:23] <Wrath> try: sudo dpkg-reconfigure dpkg
[06:23] <Wrath> dpkg-reconfigure w/ no spaces there
[06:23] <Wrath> not dpkg reconfigure
[06:23] <gothicemogeek> well like I said willis, I saw that a full upgrade was availavle and it some how upgraded to hardy
[06:23] <gothicemogeek> -goes to try-
[06:24] <Wrath> sounds like hes getting his exercise running back and forth between computers today
[06:24] <nanothief> just got this awesome error message with kubuntu: The program 'atp-get' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing: apt-get install apt
[06:24] <gothicemogeek> now it says dpkg is not installed.
[06:24] <Dr_willis> sounds like he clicked upgrade. when he should of waited. :)
[06:24] <nanothief> I loled at that
[06:24] <Dr_willis> its apt-get
[06:25] <Dr_willis> not atp-get
[06:25] <Sir_Corgi> Dr_willis:  You must use Google TiSP, then. lol
[06:25] <nanothief> oh that was just a irc typo
[06:25] <Wrath> are you sure you spelled everything right :s
[06:25] <gothicemogeek> yes.
[06:25] <gothicemogeek> i triple checked. ill go and do it again if i have to
[06:26] <nanothief> not that it matters though, it was a qemu installation :P
[06:26] <Wrath> sudo <space> dpkg-reconfigure <space> dpkg
[06:26] <Wrath> somethin is really messed up if its saying dpkg isnt there, when you just used it earlier lol
[06:27] <Dr_willis> Sir_Corgi,  i run my wires in the heating ducts. :)
[06:27] <rob234> how can I check what version of kubuntu I'm running?
[06:28] <Odd-rationale> rob234: lsb_release -a
[06:29] <manuel__> fola
[06:29] <manuel__> hola
[06:29] <rob234> Odd-rationale: thanks
[06:29] <Odd-rationale> rob234: np
[06:29] <Sir_Corgi> Dr_willis:  That's a lot safer, then.
[06:29] <manuel__> me podran ayudar cun un problema con el sonido
[06:29] <gothicemogeek> yes something is really messed up wrath because i typed it in carefully this time and I got the same thing
[06:29] <Sir_Corgi> !es
[06:29] <ubotu> Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[06:29] <rob234> is there a way to upgrade from 6.06 to more recent versions?
[06:29] <gothicemogeek> i don't know whats hapenin
[06:31] <Wrath> anyone else have any ideas :s
[06:31] <gothicemogeek> will i have to have it reformatted or something?
[06:32] <hellhound> does anyone know what i might check as to why one of my three kubuntu machines (this one only serving as a samba server) is running a little slow... it seems to sporatically run at normal speed only to revert back to its slower state after a few seconds... I have looked at top but do not see anything unusual
[06:33] <Odd-rationale> !upgrade | rob234
[06:33] <ubotu> rob234: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[06:33] <Wrath> try: sudo dpkg --audit
[06:34] <gothicemogeek> me wrath?
[06:34] <rob234> Odd-rationale: thanks :)
[06:34] <Wrath> yea
[06:35] <gothicemogeek> same parse error wrath
[06:37] <Wrath> hmm
[06:39] <Wrath> right now im looking at http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-501026.html , which is a similar problem
[06:39] <Wrath> I'd say try: sudo dpkg --forget-old-unavail
[06:39] <Wrath> then: sudo dpkg --clear-avail
[06:40] <gothicemogeek> okay
[06:40] <gothicemogeek> -writes down-
[06:41] <hellhound> can anyone please help me with the speed of other computer?  It is driving me nuts by taking minutes just to browse through directories or move the mouse.   it does running normally every now and then but it only lasts for a few seconds
[06:42] <rob234> I tried using the upgrade instructions from the site that was liked to me for 6.06 to 6.10. I had to apt-get gksu and update-manager and then it told me my system was up to date. What do I do now?
[06:43] <gothicemogeek> same perse error
[06:43] <gothicemogeek> ugh
[06:43] <gothicemogeek> **parse
[06:43] <Wrath> yea sounds like your package database is really messed up
[06:44] <rob234> I'm running kubuntu 6.06
[06:44] <gothicemogeek> *nods*
[06:44] <gothicemogeek> might have to have it reformatted then?
[06:44] <Wrath> im not really sure now
[06:44] <gothicemogeek> or uninstalled and reinstalled?
[06:44] <Wrath> yea, or you can try making a post on the forums
[06:44] <gothicemogeek> okay.
[06:44] <gothicemogeek> i have a friend who is an IT manager. I think he might be able to help me with it.
[06:44] <gothicemogeek> hes making me a live cd or sumthin like that that he said I could use to fix it.
[06:45] <Wrath> yea he probably knows more about this than I do
[06:45] <gothicemogeek> Im just waiting for him to ship it to me.
[06:45] <gothicemogeek> *shrugs* like.... over 3 years of IT I think?
[06:45] <gothicemogeek> and he runs off of linux too.
[06:45] <gothicemogeek> anyway, I will try him. Thanks for all the help tho!
[06:45] <Wrath> your welcome
[06:45] <gothicemogeek> xD and I am trying to get my network system and administration degree in associates xD
[06:45] <kkathman> cya gothicemogeek :)
[06:46] <gothicemogeek> **associates degree
[06:46] <kkathman> oops thought you wer going...sorry :)
[06:46] <kkathman> heh
[06:46] <gothicemogeek> I am now. Cya guys!
[06:46] <kkathman> l8trs
[06:48]  * kkathman munches on a late night hamburger and fries
[06:48] <hellhound> is anyone on here that helps troubleshoot?  I am pulling my hair out
[06:49] <kkathman> hellhound:  what seems to be yer prob?
[06:49] <hellhound> kkathman: kkathman: one of my three kubuntu machines (this one only serving as a samba server) is running a little slow... it seems to sporatically run at normal speed only to revert back to its slower state after a few seconds... I have looked at top but do not see anything unusual
[06:49] <kkathman> hellhound:  sorry I should have said - what seems to be THE problem - didnt mean to insinuate YOU have a problem :)
[06:51] <kkathman> hellhound:  hard to say, but looking a top would be what I'd do too - are you running any big hogs like karamba or graphics ?
[06:51] <kkathman> hellhound:  have you looked at the swap file space?
[06:51] <hellhound> kkathman: no problem... I have tried googling, looked at top, looked at vmstat, and did a memcheck but I cannot seem to pin-point it..
[06:52] <kkathman> hellhound:  is this a standalone or VM ?
[06:53] <hellhound> kkathman: no special graphics, just barebone kubuntu (no compiz, no xorg changes, and even no OpenOffice as I removed all unnessary programs.. it is just a samba server
[06:53] <kkathman> hmm no xorg either eh... hmm
[06:54] <kkathman> when things slow down - I always kinda peek at CPU, then maybe think about looking at log files
[06:54] <hellhound> kkathman: top show no moer than 1% CPU usage on anything but no more than two itms use cpu usage and mem % stays belwo 1% and only 1-4 show to have any mem usage
[06:54] <kkathman> hellhound:  ok - so what's the "gauge" you are using on the perceived "slow down"
[06:55] <hellhound> i have been keeping top up so I can see if i can spot anything as it is running slow... but nothing... it runns slow most of the time with a few seconds of normal speed about every 10 minutes
[06:56] <kkathman> hellhound:  how are you judging that things are slow?
[06:57] <hellhound> normal speed for me is when I move my mouse, type something the terminal or click on a menu that it moves, types, or clicks pretty much immediatly (nothing intensive) and when it is slow it takes up to a minute for the mouse to move, about 30 seconds to type a letter and sometimes upto 2 minutes for a menu to click
[06:57] <kkathman> ohh wow
[06:58] <kkathman> surely thats very odd
[06:59] <hellhound> heheh i just saw something (Xorg) use 3% CPU usage (more than normally seen) and the computer was running fast but it stayed the same app[rox usage when it started running slow again but it ran normal for almost a minute
[06:59] <Wrath> sonds like a runaway server but i have no clue if nothing is showing on top
[06:59] <kkathman> ahh so it IS using xorg then
[06:59] <hellhound> oh yes... but i did not change any setting in xorg... i just let the live cd set it up
[06:59] <kkathman> yeah can't explain why you wouldnt see a CPU pegged at 100% or something
[07:01] <hellhound> let me see if i can paste top so you can take a look.. give me a sec... i am IRC on another kubuntu desktop that is running normally and has been for almost a year.
[07:01] <kkathman> Ive had Firefox take over the system at times and typing was slow - but that was readily seen
[07:01] <kkathman> hellhound:  try using the pastebin to paste
[07:02] <Wrath> maybe paste the output of: ps aux
[07:02] <kkathman> good idea
[07:02] <Wrath> that seems to have pretty much the same details as top, but easier to paste
[07:03] <kkathman> true
[07:03] <hellhound> is there a way to select all while top is running in a konsole window?  something like ctrl-a?
[07:03] <kkathman> another runaway thing is artsd sometimes - but again that's easy to spot on the top
[07:04] <kkathman> hellhound:  you can highliight and right click and copy
[07:04] <hellhound> kkathman: yeah that is the problem... by the time i highlight it unselects it because it has refreshed
[07:04] <Wrath> try copying the output of: ps aux
[07:04] <kkathman> hellhound:  ps aux wont
[07:05] <hellhound> ty
[07:06] <kkathman> hellhound:  you can use http://pastebin.ca probably to paste it
[07:06] <hellhound> ty still trying to highlight everything...
[07:07] <hellhound> it is funny.. i just typed this waiting for my mouse to move
[07:07] <kkathman> yeah mine was rather long too
[07:07] <Wrath> maybe if you want to put the output of ps aux into a text file you can try: ps aux > temp.txt
[07:08] <hellhound> it is not that it is long.. it is just that it takes a long time to scroll up and move the mouse
[07:08] <Wrath> yea
[07:09] <hellhound> got it copied... now just putting it in pastebin
[07:10] <hellhound> ok here it is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/61564
[07:11] <Wrath> i dont see anything that looks too strange there myself
[07:12] <unholyskorn> Hello everyone
[07:15] <hellhound> what might be intersting to note is that top on the slow computer seems to be running at the same speed as top on my working computer.. they both update about once every 2 seconds... but the load average is higher on the slower computer than it is on my working one
[07:15] <ubuntu> how do i delet things from a cd-live on my xp partition?
[07:15] <hellhound> working one shows (0.12, 0.03, 0.01) and the slow computer shows (1.19, 1.42, 1.42)
[07:19] <ubuntu> how do i delet things from a cd-live on my xp partition?
[07:19] <ubuntu> stdin
[07:22] <ubuntu> how do i delet things from a cd-live on my xp partition?
[07:27] <DarkriftX> should be able to mount it
[07:27] <DarkriftX> then delete
[07:33] <hellhound> any ideas after looking at my pasted ps aux?
[07:50] <Alucard_Hellsing> srry to ask again but i need another irc that is less than 2 meg download for xp for someone with dialup
[07:52] <romunov> how bout http://www.ecossaise.com/ ?
[07:53] <romunov> or how about http://swik.net/Colloquy
[07:53] <TeslaTony> Alucard_Hellsing: http://www.xchat.org/windows/
[07:53] <romunov> no, that's for osx
[07:54] <Wrath> windows? use mIRC
[07:54] <Alucard_Hellsing> mirc not free anymore
[07:54] <hellhound> what do i look for in hdparm to see if dma is set?
[07:55] <Alucard_Hellsing> and to diff for them to use...they not verry good with comp
[07:55] <Wrath> yea, then i'd recommend xChat too
[07:56] <Alucard_Hellsing> is xchat for win
[07:56] <kkathman> virc is free but I dont think its 2mb
[07:56] <TeslaTony> Unfortunately it appears the windows version of schat isn't free any more
[07:56] <Steven> use xchat
[07:56] <Steven> use linux
[07:56] <TeslaTony> *xchat
[07:56] <Steven> linux is the future
[07:56] <Steven> :)
[07:56] <Alucard_Hellsing> he cant us linux...its not his comp
[07:56] <Steven> so use xchat for windows
[07:56] <TeslaTony> Linux is also not very good for the computer illiterate
[07:57] <Wrath> seems like all of the windows irc clients arent free anymore :s
[07:57] <kkathman> virc is
[07:57] <Alucard_Hellsing> yea he has nimblex but he cant us it right now
[07:57] <kkathman> and if you get Opera, is has an IRC chat
[07:58] <Alucard_Hellsing> do they hve opera for xp
[07:58] <kkathman> yes of course
[07:58] <Wrath> i cant imagine the opera built-in one being very good
[07:58] <Alucard_Hellsing> is it within 2 meg
[07:58] <kkathman> its pretty good - similar to xchat or konversation
[07:58] <kkathman> well opera isnt 2mb
[07:58] <Alucard_Hellsing> i like konversation
[07:58] <Alucard_Hellsing> but it not for xp
[07:58] <Sir_Corgi> I like konversation, too. :)
[07:59] <kkathman> I dont think you'll find much anything that will be 2mb
[07:59] <Wrath> no opera is 4.7
[07:59] <Wrath> Yea i like conversation
[07:59] <Alucard_Hellsing> that not bad
[07:59] <Wrath> well the new version of it
[07:59] <TeslaTony> Alucard_Hellsing: Why the size limit?
[07:59] <kkathman> opera?? I think its at 9.something
[07:59] <Alucard_Hellsing> ill see if he has the time...and the bandwith
[07:59] <Alucard_Hellsing> he has dialup
[07:59] <kkathman> although I could be oversizing it
[08:00] <Wrath> i just looked, its around 5
[08:00] <kkathman> if he has firefox, you can get an extension for irc its probably small
[08:00] <Sir_Corgi> I wonder if Mozilla will ever come out with an IRC client.
[08:00] <Sir_Corgi> Or have they?
[08:00] <Alucard_Hellsing> he has firfox yes
[08:00] <kkathman> Alucard_Hellsing:  they have him download the irc plug in
[08:00] <eagles0513875> i installed hary beta with wubi how do i boot it now
[08:01] <Wrath> well there is a plugin for firefox
[08:01] <Wrath> chatzilla
[08:01] <kkathman> right
[08:01] <kkathman> thats what I was saying
[08:01] <kkathman> if he can get connected, the plugin surely isnt 2mb
[08:01] <Alucard_Hellsing> wat about swik
[08:01] <kkathman> I dont think he's listening
[08:02] <Wrath> Alucard_Hellsing: check out https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/16
[08:02] <Alucard_Hellsing> k
[08:03] <kkathman> success!
[08:03] <eagles0513875> !wubi
[08:03] <ubotu> wubi advice here: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=234  and  http://wubi.org  [file wubi bugs here:  https://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug ] (it will be included in hardy 8.04 currently in beta)
[08:03] <Alucard_Hellsing> ill see about it
[08:04] <Alucard_Hellsing> it is 1meg
[08:04] <Alucard_Hellsing> 720 kila to be exact
[08:05] <eagles0513875> can anyone help me with wubi
[08:05] <hellhound> how can i tell if my harddrive has dma set to on using hdparm?
[08:07] <Dr_willis> hdparm /dev/hd#
[08:07] <eagles0513875> Dr_willis have u played round with wubi
[08:08] <Dr_willis> I wouldent touch wubi if you paid me.
[08:08] <Dr_willis> :)
[08:08] <eagles0513875> Dr_willis y not
[08:08] <Sir_Corgi> Wubi.... yuck.
[08:08] <Dr_willis> I dont see much need for it. and from the # of people i see with problems with it.. i dint want to messwith it.
[08:08] <hellhound> Dr_willis: it only displays readonly = 0 (off)     readhead =256 (on)      geometry = 11652/255/63, sectors = 1240027136, start = 0
[08:08] <noodles12> is htere a way to read my old tomboy notes in kubuntu?
[08:09] <eagles0513875> Dr_willis thing is im fraid to install kubuntu on here cuz gutsy was giving me a pnp bios bug and hardy alpha 5 would hang after install on loading hardwear devices
[08:09] <Sir_Corgi> Can't you just install Tomboy?
[08:10] <Dr_willis> sudo hdparm /dev/hda
[08:10] <Dr_willis> using_dma     =  1 (on)
[08:10] <Dr_willis> eagles0513875,  i wouls suggest using vmware or virtualbox then to get a Linux inside windows thing.  Or try wubi. and good luck with wubi.
[08:10] <eagles0513875> Dr_willis vmware is another issue on vista
[08:11] <Dr_willis> i have no issues with vmware on vista here.
[08:11] <eagles0513875> Dr_willis wtf u serious
[08:11] <hellhound> Dr_willis: yes i typed sudo hdparm /dev/sdc but nothing about dma displayed... now it is actually 3 physical hard drives combined through RAID 5
[08:11] <Dr_willis> I use vmware under vista all the time to test live cds and ive installed several linux disrtos with it.
[08:11] <Dr_willis> hellhound,  hdparm is not for sd devices...
[08:11] <eagles0513875> Dr_willis this is an oem install from hp and i have issues with it like it not loading my desktop so i have to end task to the explorer process and then restart the process
[08:12] <hellhound> Dr_willis: ahhhh no wonder... I thought dma may need to be set which might be what is causing my slow computer
[08:13] <eagles0513875> Dr_willis i should be getting a non oem version of vista 64bit
[08:13] <eagles0513875> in few weeks
[08:13] <Dr_willis> eagles0513875,  why bother. :)
[08:13] <eagles0513875> Dr_willis this oem install has alot of junk added to it by hp
[08:13] <Hamra> i wouldnt advise vista 64 bit
[08:13] <eagles0513875> Hamra y not
[08:14] <Hamra> i wouldnt advise vista at all :P
[08:14] <Alucard_Hellsing> i woulnt advise vista
[08:14] <corporeal> anyone know if something changed in 8.04 so far that would make USB reallllllllyyyy slow?
[08:14] <eagles0513875> guys i know
[08:14] <Alucard_Hellsing> wait for windows 7
[08:14] <corporeal> its taken more than 5 minutes to copy 100MB
[08:14] <Hamra> there is a lot of issues with 64 bit drivers not being signed and stuff
[08:14] <eagles0513875> windows 7?????
[08:14] <Alucard_Hellsing> yea reaserch it
[08:14] <eagles0513875> Hamra hp has drivers for it
[08:14] <kkathman> lol windows 7
[08:14] <corporeal> windows 7 will rock for windows :-p
[08:14] <Alucard_Hellsing> it comes out in late 09
[08:15] <eagles0513875> if i had a choice i would be on kubuntu right now but i have been having so many issues getting it to work
[08:15] <kkathman> as much as vista Im sure
[08:15] <Dr_willis> do you really trust HP to provide drivers that are not going to be crashprone after your other experinece with them? :)
[08:15] <Alucard_Hellsing> they started it because they dont want to fix vista
[08:15] <kkathman> vista was never meant to be long term
[08:15] <Alucard_Hellsing> im on kubuntu
[08:16] <eagles0513875> Alucard_Hellsing i would be as well if i wasnt having one hella time getting it installed on this machine
[08:16] <Alucard_Hellsing> nope is was to make a quick billion to pay for windows 7
[08:16] <Alucard_Hellsing> wat machine
[08:16] <Alucard_Hellsing> brand modle year
[08:16] <Alucard_Hellsing> hardware
[08:16] <Alucard_Hellsing> or chopshop
[08:17] <Sir_Corgi> I have my fingers crossed that Windows 7 will be the new XP.
[08:17] <kkathman> windows 7 will the the wave that majorly starts the web applications, or pay as you go applications
[08:17] <kkathman> you wont buy word anymore - you'll basically rent it
[08:17] <Dr_willis> kkathman,  that seesm to be about how it is now. :)
[08:17] <eagles0513875> Alucard_Hellsing ought this hp tx1308nr tablet with turion x2 1.9ghz processor in december the problem is this in gutsy i woudl have a pnp bios bug and it wouldnt load x at all
[08:18] <kkathman> well not really  you actually can go to a store and buy it now
[08:18] <Dr_willis> eagles0513875,  have you tried hardy on it yet?
[08:18] <Alucard_Hellsing> i just dont want vista....and 7 better be able to play that dumb vista only software
[08:18] <Alucard_Hellsing> 1.9 ghz....kinda slow
[08:18] <eagles0513875> Alucard_Hellsing on hardy alpha 5 after installation it would hang after installation on loading hardware devices
[08:18] <Dr_willis> vista only games? Heh.. allthose i recall have been cracked allreayd.
[08:18] <eagles0513875> Alucard_Hellsing this is 2nd best processor in its class hd chipset hd audio and i can render hd video
[08:19] <kkathman> by the time Windows  7 come around, I wonder where the Mac will have taken computing so that Microsoft will again be  2 years behind when they launch
[08:19] <Alucard_Hellsing> idcare it shoule at least be 2.5ghz
[08:19] <eagles0513875> lol
[08:19] <eagles0513875> Alucard_Hellsing this processor is smokin lol
[08:19] <Jucato> um... you guys would be the perfect candidates to populate and enliven #kubuntu-offtopic :)
[08:19] <Alucard_Hellsing> most good games won't play on 1.9
[08:19] <eagles0513875> lol
[08:20] <Alucard_Hellsing> lol
[08:20] <eagles0513875> im going to try hardy beta once i have all my data backed up to my xternal drive
[08:20] <kkathman> Jucato:  is there that much technical questions being asked?
[08:20] <Alucard_Hellsing> im there too
[08:20] <Jucato> kkathman: doesn't really matter if there are or aren't :)
[08:20] <Hamra> how about advertising for linux at least once in this channel? :P
[08:20] <kkathman> bah rules :(
[08:20] <eagles0513875> Jucato u know much about wubi
[08:21] <Jucato> kkathman: can't live with 'em, can't live without 'em eh? :)
[08:21] <Jucato> eagles0513875: er.. I'd rather now know :)
[08:21] <Alucard_Hellsing> hey i love linux...we were discussing how much vist sucks
[08:21] <Jucato> Alucard_Hellsing: great topic. wrong place :)
[08:21] <Hamra> and trust me, windows 7 won't be any better
[08:21] <kkathman> well in ubuntu I can understand it, but the "buntus" are the ONLY channel I know that makes a huge thing about it - but hey so be it...I'm in k-o
[08:22] <Alucard_Hellsing> besides the is a linux chan, what more add do u need
[08:22] <Jucato> kkathman: *shrug* I don't make the rules :)
[08:22] <eagles0513875> Jucato all i wanna know is how to boot to a wubi install
[08:22] <kkathman> Jucato:  but yer still off topic :)
[08:23] <Jucato> eagles0513875: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide
[08:23] <Dr_willis> wubi installs its own bootloder thing on windows I thought
[08:23] <Jucato> http://wubi-installer.org/support.php
[08:23] <Dr_willis> I imagien theres going to be a need for a #ubuntu-wubi channel soon.
[08:23] <eagles0513875> Jucatois there a wubi channel
[08:23] <Jucato> that's kinda being debated on.. or something....
[08:24] <Jucato> eagles0513875: well theoretically, any official support channel will be a wubi channel...
[08:24] <Jucato> since it's officially supported in Hardy
[08:25]  * Daisuke_Ido grumbles some more about wubi's inclusion
[08:25] <Dr_willis> but good luck finding anyone thats actually using it. :)
[08:25] <eagles0513875> lol
[08:25] <eagles0513875> ty im out guys
[08:27] <TheOverlord> hello there
[08:27] <TheOverlord> I'm having some problems with my wireless card, could someone help me?
[08:28] <Dr_willis> depends on the problem, and the card.
[08:28] <Dr_willis> i proberly cant be much help.
[08:28] <TheOverlord> it's an Atheros
[08:29] <TheOverlord> comes with Aspire 3100
[08:29] <Hamra> !wubi
[08:29] <ubotu> wubi advice here: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=234  and  http://wubi.org  [file wubi bugs here:  https://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug ] (it will be included in hardy 8.04 currently in beta)
[08:29] <Dr_willis> !wireless
[08:29] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:29] <TheOverlord> thanks, I'll take a look
[08:33] <alexa> #kubuntu_DE
[08:34] <alexa> wie komme ich ins den deutschen Kubuntu iry
[08:34] <alexa> irc
[08:35] <Jucato> !de | alexa
[08:35] <ubotu> alexa: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[08:41] <Hamra> what is wubi?
[08:43] <Jucato> !wubi | Hamra
[08:43] <ubotu> Hamra: wubi advice here: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=234  and  http://wubi.org  [file wubi bugs here:  https://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug ] (it will be included in hardy 8.04 currently in beta)
[08:47] <TeslaTony> I've been seeing an inordinate amount of processor and network activity. Can that be caused by an idle mediaserver, or is it something else?
[09:04] <Linux_Galore> just learnt never use an external NTFS drive with an eternal Etx3 drive on the same USB hub, when Kubuntu (7.10) mounts the NTFS drive it proceeds to destroy your Ext3 drive
[09:04] <DarkriftX> mine doesnt do that Linux_Galore
[09:04] <DarkriftX> oh, ext3... mines 2
[09:04] <Dr_willis> never noticed the problem either.
[09:05] <Linux_Galore> well we then tried to mount the NTFS drive on a standalone Kubuntu machine and the keyboard stopped working but worked in a terminal
[09:05] <Dr_willis> i wonder if its not a usb hardware issue.
[09:05] <Linux_Galore> well the drive is USB
[09:05] <CapitalT> Hi, when I bring the open dialog twice in VLC by the same method (ie. file->quick open or file->open) it crashes. Anybody with the same problem here?
[09:05] <DarkriftX> might be
[09:06] <Linux_Galore> so it looks like there is a nasty NTFS->USB bug in 7.10
[09:06] <DarkriftX> i have usb ntfs/fat/ext2 that ive used all at once
[09:06] <DarkriftX> i dont think thats it iether
[09:06] <DarkriftX> im using 7.10
[09:06] <Linux_Galore> DarkriftX: on two machines ?
[09:06] <DarkriftX> and i have ntfs partitions mounted
[09:07] <DarkriftX> the usb ntfs was my "backup/storage" drive for vista before i deleted it
[09:07] <Linux_Galore> DarkriftX: was it on USB external
[09:07] <DarkriftX> yes
[09:07] <Linux_Galore> DarkriftX: well we tried two machines and the module when loaded stuffed things up
[09:07] <DarkriftX> odd
[09:07] <DarkriftX> prob the device
[09:07] <Linux_Galore> DarkriftX: drive works fine on a windows machine
[09:07] <DarkriftX> lol of course it does
[09:08] <DarkriftX> windows doesnt fix errors, it works around them
[09:08] <Linux_Galore> actually drive works fine on three windows machines we have used the drive on
[09:08] <Linux_Galore> DarkriftX: yes but Linux should not self destruct an ext3 USB drive
[09:08] <DarkriftX> i have cf/sd cards that are soo trashed linux cant even fix them, but windows will read them (data gets corrupted all the time on them, but windows doesnt care)
[09:09] <DarkriftX> i see your point, but i still think its something else
[09:09] <Linux_Galore> DarkriftX: two weeks of backups lost
[09:09] <DarkriftX> ive even copied from the nfts tothe ext2 and vice versa
[09:09] <DarkriftX> ouch
[09:09] <Hamra> i used to have 512 m flash drive formatted as NTFS, it never worked on feisty, i had to format it to fat
[09:09] <DarkriftX> did you try upgrading your ntfs3g?
[09:10] <digin4> what's kubuntu remix
[09:10] <DarkriftX> mine worked out of the box, so that shouldnt matter
[09:10] <Linux_Galore> Im just warning anyone, if you have a Ext3 USB backup drive and attach an NTFS USB drive be prepared for file corruption
[09:10] <DarkriftX> also, keep in mind, my ext is ext2, so maybe thats the problem
[09:11] <Linux_Galore> DarkriftX: I have been using the ext3 drive for a year with no issues until today
[09:11] <DarkriftX> i mean the combo
[09:11] <DarkriftX> i have ntfs + ext2 and you ahve ntfs + ext3
[09:11] <DarkriftX> so we dont have the exact same setup
[09:11] <DarkriftX> which could be why i dont have a problem
[09:11] <Linux_Galore> DarkriftX: we even tried copying from the drive through the hub and it would dismount and corrupt any USB drive attached to the same hub as the NTFS drive
[09:12] <Linux_Galore> and=any
[09:12] <teknohell> ok this install has given me the biggest headache of all time
[09:12] <Linux_Galore> fat32->Ext3 no problems
[09:12] <Linux_Galore> etx3->ext3 no problems
[09:12] <DarkriftX> how about ntfs/ext2? can you use that combo?
[09:12] <Linux_Galore> NTFS->ext3 nightmare
[09:13] <teknohell> so hooows everyone doing
[09:13] <DarkriftX> dont you just lose journaling?
[09:13] <Linux_Galore> DarkriftX: ext2 and 3 are the same thing
[09:13] <jussio1> teknohell: this is the support channel, if you just want to chat, join #kubuntu-offtopic :)
[09:14] <Linux_Galore> well the drive has left the premisses now
[09:14] <DarkriftX> well, good luck to you
[09:14] <DarkriftX> i sure hope this channel doesnt start getting tight about "off topic" comments liek some others are
[09:15] <teknohell> it does dark
[09:15] <teknohell> I do have a question about mounting hard drives
[09:15] <DarkriftX> im no expert, but im able to help once in a while and ive stopped trying to help in certain channels because of that
[09:16] <DarkriftX> if you arent being paid to help, you dont want to be treated liek a paid employee
[09:17] <teknohell> ok my background is I havent used linux since 1998 and I cannot or the life of me remember how to mount a windows formatted drive just to see and transfer data from it without corrupting it
[09:18] <jussi01> !mount
[09:18] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[09:18] <Hamra> !diskmounter
[09:18] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE
[09:19] <teknohell> done dat at it tells me hal-storage-mount-all-options refused uid 1000
[09:20] <teknohell> im using the KDE version
[09:21] <jussi01> teknohell: wait a moment, Ive seen this before
[09:21] <jussi01> IIRC you need to add something to fstab
[09:22] <teknohell> and will it have anyproblems since its a sata 1TB drive
[09:22] <DarkriftX> teknohell, what is your ntfs drive called? /dev/????
[09:22] <DarkriftX> wouldnt think so
[09:24] <DarkriftX> teknohell??
[09:24] <jussi01> teknohell: would you mind pastebinning your fstab for me?
[09:24] <teknohell> sda1
[09:24] <jussi01> !paste
[09:24] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[09:24] <DarkriftX> ok
[09:24] <DarkriftX> make a directory for it (example /ntfs)
[09:25] <DarkriftX> then 'sudo mount /dev/sda1 /ntfs' should mount it (newer kubuntu has ntfs3g which gives read/write support)
[09:25] <DarkriftX> if you want it to always auto mount, you can add it to fstab like jussio1 is talking about
[09:25] <teknohell> im an idiot
[09:25] <DarkriftX> wait
[09:26] <jussi01> welcome to the club :)
[09:26] <teknohell> I  never looked at permissions and I was in as admin
[09:26] <DarkriftX> sda1? is that your / ?
[09:26] <teknohell> wasnt
[09:26] <DarkriftX> you dont want to be "in as admin"
[09:26] <jussi01> !root
[09:26] <ubotu> Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[09:26] <DarkriftX> just use sudo
[09:28] <DarkriftX> good luck and good night eveyrone
[09:28] <teknohell> yay I have my music and movies now
[09:28] <teknohell> thanks dark
[09:28] <DarkriftX> i take it that worked
[09:28] <teknohell> actually once I went into admin mode I was able to see that it wasnt enabled
[09:28] <DarkriftX> movies = code word for pr0n
[09:29] <DarkriftX> and with that, i dissapear
[09:29] <Hamra> even though i mount my ntfs partitions with read write access, i cant put any file on them, always the same error, read-only mount!
[09:29] <jussi01> Hamra: did you use ntfs-3g ?
[09:29] <teknohell> actually the MPAA could lock me up forever if I lost my dvd binder
[09:29] <DarkriftX> Hamra, make sure yo have ntfs3g installed with write enabled
[09:29] <DarkriftX> thats what ive always used and works perfectly
[09:29]  * DarkriftX tries to leave again
[09:30] <teknohell> I have only 2 p0rn
[09:30] <jpatrick> !ot
[09:30] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[09:30] <Hamra> i'll check it out, i just used the disks & filesystems thing in system settings, just a min
[09:30] <sfc__> Anyone have an idea how to fix my openoffice window? It worked fine before, but for the last few weeks every time I launch openoffice, it takes up the whole screen (covering the kicker panel and everything). Resize/move doesn't seem to work at all.
[09:31] <sfc__> (kde 3.5.8/kubuntu 7.10/openoffice 2.3)
[09:31] <jussi01> sfc__: running compiz i assume?
[09:31] <Hamra> i have ntfs-3g installed, and in the mount options i have "writable" checked
[09:31] <sfc__> jussi01: Indeed.
[09:32] <jussi01> sfc__: iirc, go to compiz settings, and change the back end to flat file
[09:33] <sfc__> jussi01: Can that be changed in the CompizCOnfig Settings Manager? (trying to find it in the list there)
[09:33] <jussi01> sfc__: yes
[09:33] <sfc__> Oh, I see it. Under a seperate section.
[09:33] <jussi01> :)
[09:33] <Sir_Corgi> If I may, I believe another fix is to go to "Workarounds" and deselect "Legacy Fullscreen Support"
[09:33] <jussi01> sfc__: see what Sir_Corgi said also
[09:35] <sfc__> Oh, hey... there's my window/decorations around openoffice again. Sweet. Now I can't use my shortcuts to switch desktops, but I'll see if disabling legacy fullscreen support instead fixes that.
[09:36] <jussi01> !yay | sfc__
[09:36] <ubotu> sfc__: Glad you made it! :-)
[09:36] <Sir_Corgi> OMG That was lazy.
[09:36] <Sir_Corgi> Shame.
[09:36]  * Sir_Corgi wags finger.
[09:37] <sfc__> Okay, just in case anyone asks at another point - switching to flat file back-end disabled my shortcut keys for switching desktops. But using "disable legacy fullscreen support" instead allowed them to work. :)
[09:37] <sfc__> jussi01 ++
[09:38] <sfc__> sir_corgi ++
[09:38] <sfc__> I totally should have asked about this problem two months ago :)
[09:38] <jussi01> :)
[09:38] <jussi01> sfc__: as an addidtional resource, you may want to drop into #compiz-fusion sometime
[09:39] <sfc__> Instead, I've been using it in its own desktop -- but then it was hard to open menus/dialogues within oo.
[09:39] <sfc__> jussi01: I definitely will. Thanks.
[09:42] <Hamra> is there any trouble when upgrading with compiz installed? or is it better to install it after upgrade? or maybe you advice not to install it in the first place?
[09:43] <jussi01> Hamra: there _shouldnt_ be. just remember to disable any 3rd party repos you have
[09:46] <Hamra> where is the file that contain the repositories?
[09:47] <jussi01> /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:47] <Hamra> thnx
[09:47] <jussi01> :)
[09:49] <Linux_Galore> Im surprised *ubuntu doesnt offer an easy way to sandbox firefox ie have firefox run as a different user ie user=firefox  thus restricting the browsers ability to exploit the default user space
[09:50] <Linux_Galore> call is safefox
[09:50] <Linux_Galore> it*
[09:50] <ogzy> hi, i was trying squidgurat at 7.10, squidguard -C all never ends, what can be the reason, i tried -d didnt see any debug info still, does it really take so much time?
[09:51] <Linux_Galore> for an experienced use sandboxing firefox is pretty easy but Im thinking of newbies
[09:52] <Linux_Galore> user*
[09:52] <Linux_Galore> having to type a password to run the sandboxed version of firefox can be a bit annoying
[09:53] <CapitalT> Hi, I have a problem with VLC. It crashes when I bring up the open dialog twice. Any ideas?
[09:54] <Linux_Galore> CapitalT: playing the same video ?
[09:54] <CapitalT> not playing videos, just bringing up the open dialog
[09:54] <Linux_Galore> CapitalT: dont know, Ive always found VLC to be a bit crappy in Linux
[09:55] <Boohbah> how do i start kde 4?
[09:55] <Linux_Galore> fonts for subs always seem to look like crap in VLC
[09:55] <jpatrick> Boohbah: choose it from KDM at the session menu
[09:55] <Boohbah> jpatrick: my kdm is bork
[09:56] <jpatrick> Boohbah: well, that would make life difficult..
[09:57] <CapitalT> can anyone try bringing up the open dialog in vlc twice to see if it's reproduceable?
[10:00] <Hamra> do the firefox settings in windows and those in linux differ? can i copy my settings folder from windows, and paste it wherever the settings are here on linux
[10:02] <sonoftheclayr> Hamra: You should be able to. If it doesn't work just delete it and try again. Nothing to lose
[10:02] <Hamra> ok :)
[10:03] <jussi01> CapitalT: it doesnt do it here
[10:04] <CapitalT> I'll reinstall it and wxwidgets and see what happens
[10:04] <CapitalT> btw, why is there three versions of wxwidgets?
[10:08] <CapitalT> still the same :(
[10:12] <eagles0513875> i think im goign to try the beta
[10:12] <eagles0513875> im backingup my data to my external drive. seems like the bug i was having is gone
[10:13] <eagles0513875> j/w whats the point of wubi if nobody knows how to use it and 2ndly if it has bugs y release it y not wait till the bugs r sorted out
[10:16] <JoshOvki> It takes a while for prorams such as wubi to get known, as most of us already had kubuntu / ubuntu installed before it was released we have never had to use it[
[10:18] <michael__> Hello! I have a problem. the directories of / are displayed on the Desktop: http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/2021/bildschirmphoto1dt3.png
[10:18] <eagles0513875> michael__ did u create a short cut to ur root directory on the desktop by mistake
[10:18] <michael__> not as far as i know
[10:19] <michael__> but maybe :D
[10:23] <eagles0513875> michael__ if thats the case then there is nothing to wry bout
[10:23] <eagles0513875> if u copied it though and its not a short cut i dont recommend removing it because u will mess up ur install
[10:24] <michael__> the directories there are owned by root. I think KDE only displays the "/" on the screen...
[10:26] <michael__> i think, if i gonna delete the directories, it will crash my ssytem.But its annoying, when they are diplayed on the desktop
[10:27] <Jucato> michael__: what does "ls -l ~/Desktop/" output?
[10:28] <michael__> michael@desktop:~$ ls -l ~/Desktop/
[10:28] <michael__> insgesamt 15824
[10:28] <michael__> -rw-r--r-- 1 michael michael     3882 2008-03-30 09:48 file.pdf
[10:28] <michael__> -rw-r--r-- 1 michael michael     2509 2008-03-25 15:46 firefox.desktop
[10:28] <michael__> -rw-r--r-- 1 michael michael 15481312 2008-03-30 10:35 skype-debian_2.0.0.68-1_i386.deb
[10:28] <michael__> -rw-r--r-- 1 michael michael   685572 2008-03-30 10:31 VideoCAM_Look_312P.zip
[10:28] <michael__> michael@desktop:~$
[10:28] <michael__> thats right
[10:28] <michael__> these files are really on my desktop
[10:28] <jussi01> !paste | michael__
[10:28] <ubotu> michael__: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[10:28] <eagles0513875> !pastbin | michael__
[10:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastbin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:28] <Jucato> michael__: next time use a pastebin please
[10:28] <michael__> okay
[10:28] <eagles0513875> hey jussi01
[10:30] <Jucato> michael__: ok I need you to check something. press Alt+F2 and run "kcontrol" then go to System Administration -> Paths. check what is in the Desktop path
[10:30]  * Jucato doesn't know where Paths is in System Settings..
[10:32] <Jucato> still with us michael__?
[10:32] <michael__> yes
[10:32] <Jucato> did you check already?
[10:32] <michael__> oh i havent seen you message
[10:32] <michael__> one moment
[10:33] <michael__> the desktop path is normal... "/home/michael/Desktop"
[10:33] <eagles0513875> Jucato does that mean its a copy of his root directory
[10:34] <Jucato> eagles0513875: but based on his ls of ~/Desktop, there isn't any symlink there...
[10:35] <eagles0513875> Jucato how could his root directory have ended up on the desktop
[10:35] <Jucato> eagles0513875: that's what I'm trying to find out :)
[10:35] <eagles0513875> Jucato u got me curious as well
[10:36] <jpatrick> he mounted it at the wrong place?
[10:37] <eagles0513875> michael__ did u do a custom set of partitions or did u have the live cd do it for u automatically
[10:37] <michael__> i installed the alternate cd, configrued everything, some reboots, and suddenly i got this problem
[10:37] <eagles0513875> michael__ the beta of hardy
[10:37] <michael__> no, gusty
[10:38] <eagles0513875> interesting
[10:39] <eagles0513875> the only thing that i could think  could he have hard linked it instead of sym link
[10:39] <michael__> that means?
[10:39] <eagles0513875> michael__ its another type of link
[10:40] <michael__> how could i change it?
[10:40] <Jucato> eagles0513875: if it were a link it would still show up in ls right?
[10:40] <eagles0513875> only sym link i believe
[10:41] <eagles0513875> i know symlinks do not sure bout the hard links
[10:41] <eagles0513875> let me look something up really fast
[10:42] <eagles0513875> i cant find what im looking for
[10:42] <michael__> :(
[10:43] <eagles0513875> let me go get my linux lpi notes binder
[10:43] <michael__> no problem
[10:44] <eagles0513875> im back
[10:44] <michael__> good
[10:48] <eagles0513875> michale look in the partition where u have ur install
[10:48] <eagles0513875> and see if u have a / directory in there
[10:48] <michael__> If i enter "/" in the adressbar i see my root directories
[10:49] <eagles0513875> is there another root directory in there
[10:49] <eagles0513875> sup doc
[10:49] <eagles0513875> cmicallef random question u from malta
[10:49] <cmicallef> ya
[10:50] <rahmi> hi everybody
[10:50] <cmicallef> name gave it away eh?
[10:50] <michael__> Another root direcotory?
[10:50] <rahmi> do yuo know kubuntu
[10:50] <michael__> In which way?
[10:50] <eagles0513875> cmicallef ya
[10:50] <cmicallef> take it your maltese :)
[10:50] <rahmi> webcam driver indstilizasion?
[10:50] <eagles0513875> cmicallef u a registered nick
[10:51] <eagles0513875> michael__ u ever setup a virtual machine before or do u have another machine u can try the install in
[10:51] <eagles0513875> !nick | cmicallef
[10:51] <ubotu> cmicallef: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.
[10:51] <cmicallef> nope
[10:51] <eagles0513875> cmicallef register its worth it
[10:52] <cmicallef> okayyyyyyyyy
[10:52] <cmicallef> will do now
[10:52] <eagles0513875> k
[10:52] <michael__> eagles051387: Actually, the install worked, didn't it? After some reboots i got the problem.
[10:52] <eagles0513875> let me check fsck commands give me a min michael__
[10:52] <michael__> okay
[10:52] <cmicallef> done
[10:52] <cmicallef> :)
[10:53] <eagles0513875> cmicallef now type in /msg nickserv password to sign in
[10:53] <eagles0513875> Jucato u know the command to have kubuntu run fsck during bootup
[10:54] <Jucato> um nope..
[10:54] <jpatrick> cmicallef: see: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup for the freenode way of setuping up your nick
[10:54] <eagles0513875> im goign to have to keep searching on google give me a couple min michael__
[10:54] <cmicallef> identified :)
[10:54] <michael__> no problem
[10:54] <cmicallef> thanks eagle
[10:54] <Dr_willis> You create a file called /forcefsck i think to force a fsck
[10:55] <michael__> i didnt know how to express the problem by google... :-/
[10:55] <eagles0513875> Dr_willis ?
[10:55] <eagles0513875> cmicallef no prob
[10:55] <Dr_willis> If the file "/forcefsck" exists a file system consistency check
[10:55] <Dr_willis> (fsck) will be forced at the next boot up.
[10:55] <Dr_willis> sudo touch /forcefsck
[10:55] <eagles0513875> Dr_willis so sudo -F shutdown -r now
[10:55] <eagles0513875> and that will force the fsck check
[10:56] <eagles0513875> cmicallef did u get my pm
[10:56] <Dr_willis> That also just makes that file then does a reboot.
[10:56] <cmicallef> ya eagle
[10:56] <Dr_willis> of coruse if the filesystem is very very very badly messed up  - it may not be able to do the making of the file
[10:56] <eagles0513875> so there is no simple command to just have it run fsck during boot to where u dont have to create the file
[10:58] <Dr_willis> never noticed.. never worried :)  the scripts check the filesystem to see if its good..  i GUESS you could purposly flag the journel as being bad.. but theres other filesystems out besides just ext3
[10:58] <Dr_willis> so what works for ext3. may not work for ext2, or other filesystems
[10:58] <eagles0513875> michael__ what file system u running
[10:58] <michael__> ext3
[10:59] <eagles0513875> michael__ try this command man fsck and see what command options u get with it and could u past bin them to me plz
[10:59] <Dr_willis> what are you trying to accomplish exactly?
[11:00] <Dr_willis> if you have a aparently good filesystem and want the system to auto-fsck it. use the touch command above.
[11:00] <michael__> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/61588/
[11:00] <monkeylice> for geeks with those shitty old routers
[11:00] <monkeylice> [03:01:24] <BuM> I dont trust being in the same channel as you
[11:00] <monkeylice> [03:01:26] * BuM has quit IRC (Quit: )
[11:01] <eagles0513875> hmmmm
[11:01] <Dr_willis> Like being in the same channel matters?
[11:01] <Dr_willis> showfsck - show the number of reboots before next forced fsck
[11:01] <michael__> Is this a good "hmmm"? :D
[11:02] <Dr_willis> Hmm....
[11:02] <eagles0513875> michael__ run the command Dr_willis gave showfsck
[11:02] <Dr_willis> i had to install it. :) heh
[11:02] <Dr_willis> 11/24 mount(s) until fsck for /dev/sdb2
[11:03] <eagles0513875> Dr_willis what if u wanna force an fsck at next reboot how would one do that
[11:03] <michael__> 10/24 mount(s) until fsck for /dev/disk/by-uuid/8b4049de-a0a6-48a1-8a5a-110e08301b55
[11:03] <Dr_willis> eagles0513875,  sudo touch .... whatever...
[11:03] <Dr_willis> like given above
[11:05] <eagles0513875> i used to use a sudo -F or f to force at next reboot
[11:05] <michael__> should i do this?
[11:05] <eagles0513875> michael__ try the touch command that was given above
[11:05] <michael__> okay, and then reboot?
[11:05] <eagles0513875> michael__ ya
[11:06] <Dr_willis> why are we doing this at all is what i wonder...
[11:07] <eagles0513875> Dr_willis im not sure if this is an issue like windows but sometimes running a checkdisk in winblows fixes certain problems im wondering if this is the same issue
[11:07] <michael__> okay, then till in a few minutes
[11:09] <Dr_willis> in the time we have been talking about it... :) i could of fsck'd the disks 4 times...
[11:09] <Dr_willis> :)
[11:10] <Dr_willis> i dont expect it to fix anything..unless theres some disk curruption. :)
[11:10] <eagles0513875> Dr_willis im thinking thats whathe has some mild disk corruption
[11:11] <Dr_willis> i had a hd that was so messed up. when it fsck'd EVERYTHING got moved to /lost+found
[11:11] <Dr_willis> :)
[11:11] <Dr_willis> made the system rather unbootable
[11:11] <eagles0513875> lofl
[11:11] <eagles0513875> were u able to recover the data
[11:12] <Dr_willis> It was just a test box. so i reinstalld the latest ubuntu beta. :)
[11:12] <eagles0513875> kool
[11:12] <eagles0513875> 32 or 64
[11:13] <eagles0513875> im goignt o put 64bit hardy beta
[11:15] <michael__> Hey, guys, thank you =) Everything is normal again =)
[11:17] <eagles0513875> michael__ lol good to hear
[11:17] <Dr_willis> i got no need for 64bitness
[11:17] <eagles0513875> Dr_willis lol that fixed it
[11:17] <eagles0513875> michael__ u had some minor corruption on teh disk so when ever things start becoming weird run that touch command again
[11:18] <Dr_willis> if the filesystem was currupted - it should allready detect it and do it anyway
[11:18] <michael__> okay
[11:18] <eagles0513875> Dr_willis me neither but if u can eek out the lil bit extra performance y not take it
[11:18] <Dr_willis> eagles0513875,  because of other problem areas
[11:18] <eagles0513875> Dr_willis what other kinda problems r there with 64bit
[11:20] <Dr_willis> eagles0513875,  lets see.. powersaving, java, flash, drivers, others.. (some are not muchof a problem any more)
[11:20] <eagles0513875> since i went 64 on feisty havent had any issues
[11:21] <Dr_willis> you are one of the few then.
[11:21] <Dr_willis> :)
[11:21] <michael__> Well, everything works fine. Till my next problem ;) So long :) Thanks, again!
[11:21] <eagles0513875> michael__ no prob
[11:22] <eagles0513875> Dr_willis only problems i have had have been on my new laptop
[11:22] <eagles0513875> vista is s***
[11:26] <eagles0513875> calling all problems we r here to help get rid of u
[11:33] <eagles0513875> im dying to get kubuntu installed on here
[11:33] <kblin> hi folks
[11:33] <eagles0513875> hey
[11:42] <freakydoll> wie komm iich in den deutschen chat
[11:42] <IppatsuMan> !de | freakydoll
[11:42] <eagles0513875> !gm
[11:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:42] <ubotu> freakydoll: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[11:42] <freakydoll> !de | freakydoll
[11:44] <nicole> Window live messenger
[11:49] <Hamra> is there like an open source nvidia driver or something?
[11:49] <eagles0513875> Hamra ya in the repos
[12:08] <eldaria> I think I found a bug in Hardy, Beta, a rather severe one, but I'm not sure how to trace it for a bug report.
[12:08] <Jucato> eldaria: #ubuntu+1 please
[12:08] <eldaria> ok, thanks
[12:12] <Hamra> is there a package for firefox 3 beta in the repos? if yes, what is the name of the package?
[12:13] <eagles0513875> Hamra do apt-cache search firfox in konsole it will bring up all firefox pkgs u can also use it to search for anythign ur looking for
[12:14] <Hamra> ok, thnx
[12:14] <Jucato> I think it's available in Hardy, so you might want to ask in #ubuntu+1
[12:14] <swatto> on that note about firefox - how do i update to the latest version
[12:15] <Jucato> Hamra: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=firefox&searchon=names&suite=hardy&section=all
[12:15] <Jucato> swatto: if you installed firefox from Ubuntu's repositories, you'll have to wait for them to release an update. You update it normally like any other package
[12:16] <swatto> ah ok, cheers Jucato
[12:20] <LimCore> how to use apport?
[12:21] <ricardo_> hi
[12:28] <Hamra> im installing wine from source code, and i have been seeing ununderstandable stuff for like 20 minutes, is it normal for the install to take a long time?
[12:31] <ioan> well i never installed wine from source Hamra so it took me only few minutes
[12:32] <Jucato> Hamra: you're not just installing Hamra. you're compiling first... that would take longer than a simple install (from a package)
[12:32] <ioan> but compiling stuff takes time
[12:32] <Hamra> i guess it's nearing end, it asked for my root password now
[12:33] <Hamra> yup! done!
[12:37] <ioan> any opinion about Hardy kde4 ?i'm stucked with it so i'll go back to kde3
[12:37] <Jucato> ioan: stucked with it?
[12:38] <ioan> for a while Jucato but i simply can't make it work as i wish
[12:39] <Jucato> you can get help with KDE 4 in #kubuntu-kde4
[12:39] <ioan> i knw i'm on that channel too
[12:41] <ioan> gosh -my english is too ambiguous today
[12:51] <_myrtille_> Hello there :)
[12:52] <_myrtille_> I'm getting an error message from ssh and I'm wondering who to blame: myself or the other end :)
[12:52] <_myrtille_> The message is: X Error of failed request:  BadWindow (invalid Window parameter)
[12:53] <emilsedgh> _myrtille_: sorry, what are you trying to do? open a window from the other side?
[12:53] <_myrtille_> plus some technical lines (if you need those i'll paste them=
[12:54] <_myrtille_> oh, sorry. :s emilsedgh: yes... i joined with ssh -X name@... and tried to open a gui-application
[12:54] <emilsedgh> hm, dunno then, i thought you are trying to do it without -X...you added it yourself, i dunno
[12:55] <_myrtille_> ok :)
[12:56] <ramzay> ru
[12:57] <eagles0513875> !ru | ramzay
[12:57] <ubotu> ramzay: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[13:00] <_myrtille_> emilsedgh: I just tried to execute konqueror, which worked fine... so I suppose this means, that this is not an ssh-problem :/
[13:00] <emilsedgh> _myrtille_: maybe, i have no idea
[13:05] <_myrtille_> ok, different question then. :D Somebody knows some opensource application, that is comparable to mathematica :D
[13:07] <eldaria> _myrtille_: Don't know that specific application, but I found this page http://www.osalt.com/ some time ago, and they do have a nice list of applications
[13:10] <sami> help
[13:10] <_myrtille_> eldaria: thx, i'll have a look :)
[13:12] <nick__> hey guy
[13:13] <nick__> i got alway a nsviwer error when i surf in the ethernet :(
[13:14] <eldaria> nick__: Sound like the Flashplugin bug in Konqueror.
[13:14] <nick__> eldaria:  ok how i fix that ?
[13:15] <nblracer> what is the channel for kubuntu withe kde 4, or hardy kubiuntu?
[13:15] <Jucato> nblracer: #kubuntu-kde4 for KDE 4, both Gutsy and Hardy
[13:15] <eldaria> nick__: well they did not release a fix for Gutsy, there is a fix for Hardy though.
[13:15] <Jucato> #ubuntu+1 for general Hardy
[13:15] <nblracer> thanks
[13:16] <nick__> eldaria:  ok so :S
[13:17] <eldaria> nick__: It workes in Firefox, but yes, I know it is not the same.
[13:17] <nick__> eldaria:  your right :)
[13:18] <eldaria> nick__: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=689139
[13:19] <eldaria> nick__: there is a link to the old version of Flash.
[13:20] <kiennd> hi all
[13:20] <kiennd> Have any one in Sweden
[13:20] <kiennd> I want to know the Linux community in Sweden
[13:20] <kiennd> I'm going to go to Sweden this year
[13:20] <kiennd> :)
[13:20] <nblracer> hmm can i post my guestion in here, since the kde kubuntu channel is dead
[13:20] <eldaria> kiennd: http://ubuntulinux.se/
[13:20] <nblracer> kde4*
[13:21] <nick__> eldaria:  ok i going to use firefox then
[13:21] <kiennd> Ok, thanks eldaria
[13:22] <ramzay> ru
[13:22] <Jucato> !ru | ramzay
[13:22] <ubotu> ramzay: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[13:22] <Jucato> nblracer: no assurance that you'll get more help here about KDE 4. that's really the channel for KDE 4 users
[13:23] <kiennd> Hi eldaria, do you know any krc channels for Linux users in Sweden ?
[13:23] <Jucato> !se | kiennd
[13:23] <ubotu> kiennd: Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[13:24] <LilSarge> quick question...is there a way to change single clicks to dbl clicks?  Im use to dbl clicks so most of the time i open multiple icons
[13:24] <kiennd> Ok, thanks jucato and ubotu, good day for you :)
[13:25] <Jucato> LilSarge: System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse -> Mouse
[13:25] <nblracer>  The error im getting is /usr/lib/kde4/etc/kdm/kdmrc is not found
[13:26] <nblracer> i dont know how to fix it
[13:26] <nblracer> or how i brock it
[13:26] <nblracer> last night i just reinstalled samba, and rebooted to find that i had no gui
[13:27] <nick__> eldaria:  firefox have de same problem
[13:27] <nick__> anyway i go to sleep thanks
[13:28] <LilSarge> thx, and what is Pointer Acceleration? is that the speed of cursor
[13:29] <eldaria> LilSarge: Nope, that is how fast it will accelerate, basically if you drag it fast it will move faster and faster.
[13:29] <ubuntu> i am having a problem with the install both when choosign to load the desktop and choosing the 2nd option to to install without a desktop loading
[13:29] <ubuntu> nm i retract my problem
[13:29] <LilSarge> Ok and is there a way to make a faster cursor?
[13:31] <eldaria> LilSarge: Yes, use the Acceleration., the higer, the faster
[13:33] <LilSarge> pointer acceleration?
[13:33] <eldaria> LilSarge: in the mouse settings, push help, there it is explained pretty well. Basically Acceleration is how fast it moves compared to your movement, and the Threshold is how long before it will start accelerating.
[13:34] <LilSarge> k thx
[13:37] <nblracer> Where else can i get some good help, since i cant find a solution on the internet
[13:38] <nosrednaekim> nblracer: search the forums
[13:38] <nblracer> i already did
[13:38] <BluesKaj> howdy all
[13:38] <nosrednaekim> hey BluesKaj
[13:39] <BluesKaj> hi nosrednaekim
[14:06] <DiViN3> i need help
[14:07] <DiViN3> can someone help me plz
[14:07] <nosrednaekim> ask!
[14:07] <DiViN3> my wireless detects my access point but doesnt connect
[14:07] <DiViN3> how do i get it working
[14:08] <BluesKaj> !wireless | DiViN3
[14:08] <ubotu> DiViN3: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[14:09] <DiViN3> BluesKaj : i tried but its not working
[14:13] <DiViN3> hello can anyone assist me in getting m wireless work plz
[14:14] <DiViN3> or is there a way to connect to internet using my win box with a ethernet cable
[14:15] <nosrednaekim> DiViN3: are using anyencryption on your wireless router?
[14:15] <DiViN3> nosrednaekim : nope
[14:16] <DiViN3> nosrednaekim : its a non encrypted access point
[14:16] <DiViN3> nosrednaekim : i tried using many wifi device but all the same problem
[14:18] <nosrednaekim> DiViN3: alright, lets try doing this fom the command line, first run "iwconfig" to find th name of your wireless device, whould be "wlan0 or ath0"
[14:18] <nosrednaekim> then run "sudo iwconfig devicename ESSID theessidofyourAP
[14:18] <nosrednaekim> then run "sudo dhclient devicename
[14:20] <DiViN3> nosrednaekim ; its stating that i m not in the sudoers file - wat do i do now
[14:22] <nosrednaekim> DiViN3: ah... use the first user you created on the computer, who is the computer "admin"
[14:22] <DiViN3> its me
[14:22] <DiViN3> i m the admin
[14:22] <DiViN3> theres only one user
[14:22] <nosrednaekim> we can bother with adding this user to sudoers la.... what? you are the first user created?
[14:22] <nosrednaekim> uhh oh
[14:25] <DiViN3> nosrednaekim : Ok i have restarted n log in to the 1st user already
[14:26] <DiViN3> nosrednaekim : i m totally new to kubuntu so plz bear with me thanks
[14:26] <nosrednaekim> try running that first command again
[14:26] <DiViN3> ok gimme a min
[14:30] <nosrednaekim> I have to go.....
[14:31] <DiViN3> haizzz
[14:31] <DiViN3> is there anyone else who can help me plzzzzzzzzzz
[14:36] <IppatsuMan> !anyone | DiViN3
[14:36] <ubotu> DiViN3: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[14:37] <DiViN3> IppatsuMan : Can U HelpMe Out PLz
[14:37] <IppatsuMan> DiViN3: I don't know, unless you stop asking if you can ask a question and ask your real question ;)
[14:38] <Sir_Corgi> DiViN3: Ask the question you want answered.
[14:38] <DiViN3> i cant connect to the internet using my linksys wifi adapter
[14:39] <DiViN3> its detects the access point but cant connect - wat should i do
[14:45] <DiViN3> ??????/
[14:45] <DiViN3> i cant connect to the internet using my linksys wifi adapter
[14:46] <jussi01> !wireless
[14:46] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[14:46] <jussi01> DiViN3: Im pretty sure there is a guide there
[14:46] <jussi01> DiViN3: which model is it?
[14:47] <DiViN3> linkys WUSB54v4
[14:47] <DiViN3> linkys WUSB54G v4
[14:48] <jussi01> DiViN3: yes, that is on the list on that page, go read the tutorial
[14:48] <DiViN3> i hv tried wat was in the page but cant use
[15:03] <DiViN3> hello
[15:03] <DiViN3> i need help
[15:03] <DiViN3> plz try to help me thanks
[15:04] <DiViN3> i need help in using my wifi to connect to internet
[15:04] <jpatrick> !wifi | DiViN3
[15:04] <ubotu> DiViN3: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[15:05] <DiViN3> jpatrick : I tried the method from there but its not working
[15:16] <ingrid> 2/ xorg use 100% of the proc and i have to kill it (especialy with movies or flash videos)
[15:16] <ingrid> hi, i wanna some help i have two main problems (kubuntu hardy) 1/ my spdif only works with ac3 or dts contrary at begining for all sounds
[15:22] <mefisto__> does anybody know if the audio cd ripping feature in kde has a name? (the way it makes virtual folders MP3, Ogg Vorbis, etc)
[15:23] <emilsedgh> mefisto__: you mean the audiocd:/ ? thats a kio slave
[15:29] <mefisto__> emilsedgh: if you put in an audio cd, then navigate to it with konqeror or dolphin, it will dispay a bunch of folders, first the actual CD audio files on the disk, then various other folders with each track inside, so ripping is done by just copying those "virtual" files and kde creates it as it is "copying"
[15:29] <emilsedgh> you could go there by typing audiocd:// in address bar, mefisto__
[15:30] <emilsedgh> you could use another applications, like KAudioCreator for ripping too
[15:31] <mefisto__> sure, just wondering what to call this feature when I tell my windows-user friends about it
[15:36] <terrysco> hi
[15:39] <icewaterman> hi, can i use 32-bit java in a 64bit firefox with nsplugin-wrapper?
[15:44] <co0lingFir3> hi folks! how can i adjust the number of channels in k9copy?
[15:48] <bentob0x> when installing KDE 4.0.2 on Kubuntu 7.10, you need to add sources (ppa.launchpad.net).  Once kde 4 installed, adept updater offers to update tons of kde elements (with a ppa version).  Is it safe to update to those versions for anything non kde4?
[15:49] <IppatsuMan> bentob0x: I can't give you any guarantee, but I did it and my KDE 3 is still running fine
[15:50] <Eruaran> Is anyone else getting the dcopserver error ?
[15:50] <bentob0x> that's what I thought, thx IppatsuMan
[15:51] <Eruaran> I cant use Adept because of it
[15:53] <jast-mxm> once you have vnc server setup and i have a network created, how do i connect to it to install my guest os?
[15:57] <mefisto__> bentob0x: my kde 3 is running fine too. the only thing is extra kde 4 items in kmenu, or kde 3 things in kmenu when running kde 4
[16:03] <Matt1728> cansomeone help me install a (install.sh) file
[16:03] <icewaterman> Matt1728: thats a shellscript
[16:03] <Matt1728> ahh
[16:03] <icewaterman> Matt1728: you need to learn bash/sh
[16:03] <icewaterman> or simply run it
[16:03] <Matt1728> oh that works too
[16:04] <icewaterman> ./install.sh (in case it is not executeable, do chmod a+x install.sh first)
[16:04] <Matt1728> kk
[16:04] <Matt1728> with root/
[16:04] <Matt1728> ?
[16:04] <icewaterman> Matt1728: depends on what it does and where it installs stuff
[16:05] <Matt1728> k thanks i got it
[16:05] <icewaterman> Matt1728: most likely it needs to be run as root, but if you want to locally install it in your homedirectory, you can do it as normal user
[16:09] <Claybrain145> I get this error when in D3lphin
[16:10] <Claybrain145> The desktop entry file
[16:11] <Claybrain145> __  /usr/share/apps/d3lphin/servicemenus/amarok_addaspodcast.desktop
[16:11] <Claybrain145> has an invalid menu entry
[16:11] <Claybrain145> addAsPodcast.
[16:12] <Claybrain145> .. I think I can fix it, just since I'm new to Kubuntu, just wanted to make sure I don't mess anything up.
[16:13] <mefisto__> Claybrain145: what are you going to do to fix it? edit that file?
[16:13] <Matt1728> is there a repository for dvdshrink?
[16:14] <Claybrain145> well I'm in the file manager Dolphin... and I right click on an HTML file I saved and I get that error message.  Of course, I do have Amarok open as well
[16:17] <Claybrain145> mefisto - you could try k9copy (look up in add remove progs)
[16:17] <Claybrain145> mefisto or try typing this in konsole - sudo apt-get install k9copy
[16:18] <Stilo> hi! does anybody know how i can install a new theme for the pidin guification plugin
[16:18] <Claybrain145> I think you have to run DVD shrink in Wine
[16:18] <mefisto__> I'm not sure what that "add as podcast" is meant to do in d3lphin, but if you are trying to add a podcast to amarok it might be easier to copy the podcast url from the webpage, then add it to amarok directly
[16:19] <jast-mxm> well it is still a beta, so it is probably an incomplete feature
[16:19] <Claybrain145> I don't deal with podcasts
[16:19] <mefisto__> Claybrain145: the k9copy info I think you meant for Matt1728
[16:19] <Claybrain145> yes
[16:19] <Claybrain145> I was being a little lexdysic
[16:19] <Claybrain145> sorry.
[16:20] <jast-mxm> heh
[16:20] <reese> hi! is there a way to use audio drivers from wine? i can see them in the configuration window, but they don't really work
[16:21] <anais> es?
[16:21] <Claybrain145> mefisto - as for the podcast thing... I'm not familiar enough to know where to look for right-click actions to see where it's pulling that .desktop script to check for podcast.
[16:21] <Claybrain145> which is my assumption for why the error comes up...
[16:21] <reese> i mean, in vista, with the original drivers from realtek, the sound is like twice better and louder
[16:21] <anais> spanich
[16:21] <mefisto__> Claybrain145: if the "add as podcast" thing is causing problems and you don't need that function, just delete it (or move it to another location in case you want to move it back)
[16:21] <dthacker> !es | anais
[16:21] <ubotu> anais: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[16:22] <Claybrain145> that's what I figured, but I'm just trying to see if there was another way as well.  Just trying to become more fmiliar with Kubuntu.  Installed it last week
[16:23] <mefisto__> Claybrain145: in konsole, type this: sudo mv /usr/share/apps/d3lphin/servicemenus/amarok_addaspodcast.desktop ~/amarok_addaspodcast.desktop (this will move the file for the "add as podcast" thing to your home directory)
[16:24] <johan> hi!, is there any browser for linux that allows me to read the status of the webpage from the commandline. (for example, if the page  has been loaded completly)?
[16:26] <Claybrain145> mefisto - thnx.  I tried doing that through Dolphin.  Forgot I needed sudo master.
[16:26] <Claybrain145> Must be Windows XP withdraw.
[16:27] <dthacker> johan: firefox
[16:27] <andres___> Someone can help me with the installation of firefox in kubuntu 6.06 64 bits... I do not find complete information for this installation
[16:27] <dthacker> johan: wait. you said commandline.  my bad
[16:27] <johan> dthacker: :(
[16:28] <Matt1728> anyone use mythtv?
[16:28] <hyper_ch> hiho, is there a bug with kontact in hardy (KDE3.3)?
[16:28] <mefisto__> Claybrain145: I think if you right-click a folder in dolphin, there is an option to open it as root (under "actions"), if that is easier for you. but it's good to learn to be comfortable in konsole
[16:28] <dthacker> yes! and theres' a helpful channel for mythtv #ubuntu-mythtv
[16:28] <andres___> Already the tar.gz comes out of the page of firefox... But I cannot continue with the installation... Not I to him(you,them) that I command must execute
[16:29] <dthacker> hyper_ch: have you searched launchpad?  The people in this channel are unlikely to retain all the bugs in their memory :)
[16:30] <hyper_ch> dthacker: that's what I'm doing now :)
[16:30] <hyper_ch> dthacker: well, since today it just crashes upon starting... so if this is update related to hardy people may have also noticed ;)
[16:30] <dthacker> hardy support is in #ubuntu +1
[16:31] <Eruaran> NZ has voted NO to OOXML
[16:31] <dthacker> johan: have you tried lynx?
[16:31] <jpatrick> !ot
[16:31] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[16:31] <Matt1728> how do i connect to the myth tv database
[16:31] <genii> johan: Links indicates load progress
[16:31] <dthacker> Matt1728: please ask in #ubuntu-mythtv
[16:31] <johan> dthacker: i  need to make screenshots of a website, so lynx will not do.. i'm now checking the -debug feature of firefox
[16:32] <mefisto__> all browsers indicate load progress in statusbar, don't they?
[16:32] <genii> console based browser screenshots?
[16:32] <pyro_17> lul
[16:32] <dthacker> johan has confused dthacker completely :)
[16:36] <Claybrain145> mefisto - yes I see that.  I'll keep playing around...  I really should get a book on linux... it might help better than keep coming here to ask questions... well that was the first, figured it out by myself so far
[16:36] <sourcemaker> how can I mount a cryptedFS (cryptoLUKS=
[16:37] <jpatrick> sourcemaker: it's an addition available in hardy
[16:38] <sourcemaker> jpatrick: yes... I have hardy in use
[16:38] <jpatrick> sourcemaker: it should pick it up then..
[16:39] <sourcemaker> jpatrick: yes... it does... but I have a second encfs for backup...  and I have to mount this
[16:39] <jpatrick> sourcemaker: hmm, sorry, don't know :(
[16:39] <sourcemaker> i will ask ubuntu +1
[16:42] <nonewmsgs> my dad's computer is ubuntu 7.10 and he uses it only for solitare and the internet. recently the solitare program began to take up the entire screen (no titlebar or taskbar, but literally the entire screen) how can i fix this
[16:44] <reese> is there a program that lets you use the original audio drivers?
[16:45] <nonewmsgs> maybe from the company who made the sound card?
[16:45] <mefisto__> nonewmsgs: it's probably just set to fullscreen. try the F11 key
 makes the title flash but doesnt fix it
[16:45] <reese> nonewmsgs: i've a realtek audio card, and there aren't any drivers for linux
[16:45] <nonewmsgs> i have tried all keyboard shortcuts i know
[16:47] <nonewmsgs> if i delete the .aislerot folder will it remake it with default settings?
[16:48] <manuel__> hola
[16:48] <nonewmsgs> howdy
[16:48] <manuel__> alguien me puede ayudar en como instalar el sonido
[16:48] <jpatrick> !es | manuel__
[16:48] <ubotu> manuel__: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[16:53] <mefisto__> nonewmsgs: alt-F3 will give you the same menu you get when you right-click the titlebar. Under advanced, there is fullscreen
[16:55] <nonewmsgs> it has minimize but doens't allow maximize more of resize?
[16:55] <nonewmsgs> weird...
[16:55] <nonewmsgs> he's so hard on computers...
[16:55] <nonewmsgs> move or*
[16:56] <sourcemaker> how can I mount a LUKS encrypted filesystem in hardy? I receive the following message: unknown filesystem type 'LVM2_member'
[16:56] <mefisto__> nonewmsgs: under the "advanced" submenu, there is "fullscreen"
[17:01] <mefisto__> reese: have you tried playing around with audio settings in kmix?
[17:02] <reese> mefisto: done that.. but i've just found that realtek has released their drivers for linux too, so i'm going with that
[17:03] <nonewmsgs> mefisto__: bah he's actually using gnome and doesnt have that...
[17:04] <mefisto__> nonewmsgs: might be better to ask in #ubuntu then. but it sure sounds like it's just in fullscreen mode
[17:05] <BluesKaj> hmm trying to reinstall tor, but I'm getting this error
[17:06] <kernco> What's the best way to make a program run on startup?
[17:06] <nonewmsgs> already did...i helped 4 people out there but no one answered my question
[17:06] <nonewmsgs> alt+f3 is neat
[17:06] <BluesKaj> dpkg: error processing tor (--configure):
[17:06] <nonewmsgs> there is a file called .init
[17:07] <nonewmsgs> i believe it is in /boot
[17:07] <genii> !autostart
[17:07] <ubotu> To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[17:08] <kernco> That will work, but it's a daemon so I'd prefer if it started as part of the boot process
[17:12] <genii> kernco: Likely rc.local then
[17:13] <kernco> ah, I see it.  Thanks
[17:15] <sourcemaker> how can I mount a LVM?
[17:16] <Daisuke_Ido> nice to see that flock doesn't play well with system themes
[17:19] <mefisto__> Daisuke_Ido: it's based on firefox, isn't it?
[17:20] <Daisuke_Ido> mefisto__, yeah, but while firefox adopts system themes, flock does not
[17:21] <Daisuke_Ido> for instance, i just went to a dark theme, which obviously requires lighter text...  firefox picks up both parts of that, flock just changed the text colour, making it white-on-white
[17:22] <mefisto__> Daisuke_Ido: maybe the flock theme isn't playing nice with the kde theme. In my experience, firefox doesn't usually reflect kde themes unless it's using the default firefox theme
[17:23] <mefisto__> that is if flock uses firefox-type themes (it's been a while since I tried flock)
[17:24] <Daisuke_Ido> yeah...  see actually i directed the theme comment to the wrong channel, as i'm actually using gnome right now -_-
[17:25] <Daisuke_Ido> There are no themes currently available for Flock. Firefox themes will not work with Flock because the two browsers have different UI and features.
[17:25] <Daisuke_Ido> :\
[17:25] <Daisuke_Ido> back to boring ol' firefox!
[17:26] <willie> id this the right forum to get help for a Kubuntu 8.03 beta install that wont install the base system cos the new kernel has difficulty with the CD-ROM
[17:26] <willie> ?
[17:26] <willie> err Kubuntu 8.04
[17:29] <gladtr> Hi All
[17:30] <gladtr> help me please
[17:30] <jpatrick> !ask | gladtr
[17:30] <ubotu> gladtr: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
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[17:30] <draik> Whoa!
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[17:30] <glyk> что это ? )
[17:30] <jpatrick> hi Dave2, just on time! :D
[17:31] <draik> What happened?
[17:31] <jpatrick> draik: bot attack, taken care of
[17:31] <draik> jpatrick: Ah. Thank you.
[17:33] <jpatrick> vorian: long live +R
[17:33] <vorian> man
[17:35] <vorian> :)
[17:40] <TimS> How can I get locate to search an external drive, that is mounted on /dev/sda1 as well as / ?
[17:40] <draik> I have an idea of something I want to do. Here is my plan...
[17:40] <TimS> I just did a "sudo locate -u" which I think rebuilds the database and it should include /dev/sda1 I think
[17:40] <TimS> Is that right?
[17:40] <BluesKaj> that IP addy is in chicago
[17:41] <draik> 9 OS's on 9 Shuttle computers. 9 monitors for each of them. 1 keyboard and mouse. I want to link them all together with a side monitor (monitor #10) where I can choose which of the 9 OS's I want to use.
[17:45] <draik> Does this seem possible?
[17:46] <tempo> hey
[17:46] <tempo> dont suppose anyone is free to give me a hand!
[17:46] <johan> draik: yes, there are monitor switches for that
[17:47] <BluesKaj> jpatrick, the Ip address of that bot is 195.130.249.7...used dig to confirm the location that used with neotrace
[17:47] <draik> johan: Similar to KVM?
[17:47] <jpatrick> !ask | tempo
[17:47] <ubotu> tempo: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[17:47] <johan> draik: yup
[17:47] <draik> I want to have a constant view on one computer and then have my side monitor access each computer at my discretion
[17:48] <johan> draik: as long as they have a vga-out or something like that, you can do it
[17:48] <tempo> I've just installed Kubuntu, never used it before was wondering how i install my graphics card its an nvidia 8800gt
[17:49] <makdaknife> hi
[17:49] <makdaknife> are there any alsa gurus here?
[17:50] <draik> johan: Doesn't KVM only accept one monitor per computer? I want to have 2 video outputs. One constant and the other will be on the side monitor where I can choose when to view the various computers (one at a time).
[17:50] <johan> you'll have to setup dual view setup on each computer... but isnt  vnc easier? and cheaper"?
[17:52] <Nightrose> when right clicking on a file or folder in Dolphin it opens the file or folder and the menu (KDE 4 hardy) - any ideas how to fix that?
[17:52] <draik> I want to have everything separate to dedicate one computer to each OS
[17:52] <jcgkffycs> is there a quick command to find out the uuid of a partition?
[17:55] <manuel__> hola
[17:55] <anfi> test
[17:55] <jpatrick> !es | manuel__
[17:55] <anfi> hmmm
[17:55] <ubotu> manuel__: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[17:55] <manuel__> gracias
[17:55] <anfi> hello"
[17:56] <jpatrick> hi anfi
[17:57] <anfi> hello jpatrick, im just testing irc ... never used it bevor
[17:57] <BluesKaj> jcgkffycs, notsure if this is what you need , sudo fdisk -l
[17:57] <Matt19849> can anyone tell me how to install an nvidia driver im new to linux!
[17:58] <Matt1728> adept and look for nvidia
[17:58] <SlimeyPete> !nvidia
[17:58] <ubotu> For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[17:58] <john-l> Is there any way to disable the modal prompt to install missing plugins in Konqueror without actually installing the plugins?
[18:01] <jcgkffycs> also, I re installed windows, onto the first partition of my disk, I then went to re install kubuntu, on the last partition, my home partition and two swap partitins were let alone. When the kubuntu installer got the to partitioner phase it said that my disk was empty, I know it is not empty, since I can mount my other partitions using the windows ext2 driver, and I can also mount the volume properly onother linux systems
[18:02] <jcgkffycs> A similar thing happend to me before, and I was able to use cfdisk to make a minor change to my disk, and then it fixed the disk, this time the same strategy didnot fix the disk.
[18:06] <mefisto__> jcgkffycs: sudo vol_id /dev/sda1 (or replace "sda1" with whatever partition you want to know about)
[18:07] <jcgkffycs> thanks!
[18:23] <manuel__> #ubuntu
[18:25] <anais> es?
[18:25] <jpatrick> !es | anais
[18:25] <ubotu> anais: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[18:26] <romunov> es? ahso ja, es geht es :)
[18:32] <freakydoll> halloooo
[18:32] <freakydoll> kann mir jemand sagen wo ich nen Editor mit rootrechten finde bei kubuntu?
[18:33] <_myrtille_> !de |freakydoll
[18:33] <ubotu> freakydoll: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[18:54]  * dwidmann drops a pin
[18:55]  * PhilRod hears it clearly
[18:55] <yago> does anyone use Ada?
[18:56] <azzco> Does anyone know how to get sound in recordmydesktop (not mic)?
[18:57] <Nightrose> azzco: stephan hermann blogged about it a few days ago on planet ubuntu
[18:59]  * Nightrose would appreciate some help with her .desktop files problem...  (right clicking in dolphin opens file/folder and the menu)
[18:59] <Nightrose> any pointers where I could investigate/how to fix it?
[18:59] <azzco> thanks nightrose
[19:00] <Nightrose> no prob azzco
[19:00] <kkathman> Nightrose:  right clicking what files?
[19:00] <Nightrose> kkathman: any
[19:00] <Nightrose> doesn't matter
[19:00] <kkathman> so its not giving you a menu  when you rt click?
[19:01] <Nightrose> kkathman: it is - but it is also opening the file itself
[19:01] <Nightrose> or folder if I right click a folder
[19:01] <dwidmann> Nightrose: only have that problem with d3lphin right?
[19:01] <kkathman> Nightrose:  do you have single click option on?
[19:02] <Nightrose> dwidmann: nope kde 4 on hardy
[19:02] <Nightrose> kkathman: I do
[19:02] <Nightrose> (fi I understand correctly what you mean)
[19:02] <Nightrose> *if
[19:02] <kkathman> hmm yer on kde 4  - you may have to ask in kde4 then - could be a bug
[19:02] <kkathman> this doesnt happen to me on my kde 3.5.8
[19:03] <Nightrose> I did yesterday - no help there so far :(
[19:03] <dwidmann> -kde4 isn't very active as far as I've seen
[19:03] <sourcemaker> how can I mount an encrypted file system (cryptoLUKS) via LVM?
[19:03] <kkathman> did you check bugzilla ?
[19:03] <Nightrose> I am pretty sure it is a problem with the .desktop files
[19:03] <Nightrose> but I don't know how to investigate this further
[19:03] <kkathman> Nightrose:  you could rename the .desktop to something else, and reboot, see if that fixes the prob
[19:05] <Nightrose> hmm good idea
[19:05] <Nightrose> will try
[19:05] <kkathman> worse case you can always get to console and rename it back
[19:06] <kkathman> sometimes kde will fix itself that way when things get a bit odd
[19:07] <azzco> Nightrose: I finally found it but it's for use with pulseaudio, I really don't have any good experiences with it... Thanks anyways
[19:07] <dwidmann> sourcemaker: well, if I'm reading this correctly, you first need to make sure lvm is running (sudo /etc/init.d/lvm start should do the trick), then use "sudo crypsetup luksOpen <device> <name>"
[19:08] <dwidmann> sourcemaker: better would be to add it to the /etc/crypttab so it can be mounted by the /etc/init.d/crypsetup script
[19:08] <sourcemaker> dwidmann: yes.. if have...  but I receive following message: mount: unknown filesystem type 'LVM2_member'
[19:09] <dwidmann> sourcemaker: which device are you specifying? It should be /dev/mapper/something
[19:09] <sourcemaker> dwidmann: I have to hardy installations with cryptFS... now I try to backup my fresh clean install from sdc to sda...
[19:11] <dwidmann> sourcemaker: so you've moved it from one drive to another ... and now it won't mount?
[19:11] <sourcemaker> dwidmann: no... i try to mount my second hard installation...
[19:12] <dwidmann> sourcemaker: try mounting it with the "cryptsetup" command and tell me how that goes, if you haven't already.
[19:12] <sourcemaker> dwidmann: everythink fine...
[19:12] <sourcemaker> dwidmann: there is a mapping on /dev/mapper/root-sda5
[19:13] <sourcemaker> dwidmann:  mount /dev/mapper/root-sda5 /mnt/ >> mount: unknown filesystem type 'LVM2_member'
[19:14] <dwidmann> sourcemaker: try this command: "sudo cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/mapper/root-sda5 crypto-root-sda5"
[19:14] <Gast312> hallo! wie kann man verhindern, dass bei ark die verwendeten verzeichnispfade in einem drop-down-menü gelistet werden?
[19:15] <sourcemaker> dwidmann: negative! /dev/mapper/root-sda5 is not a LUKS partition
[19:15] <dwidmann> sourcemaker: is it an lvm volume?
[19:15] <sourcemaker> dwidmann: I my point of view there is something wrong with LVM... but I do know mutch about that
[19:15] <sourcemaker> dwidmann: yes
[19:15] <agent-orange> "Configuration file *************/ksplashrc is not writable"
[19:15] <agent-orange> whats this mean
[19:16] <dwidmann> sourcemaker: does this lvm volume have a luks partition in it?
[19:16] <sourcemaker> dwidmann: how can I check that?
[19:16] <agent-orange> every time i boot . this happens, also, i keep getting the desktop config wizard upon login
[19:16] <agent-orange> "Configuration file *************/ksplashrc is not writable"
[19:16] <freakydoll> deutsch
[19:16] <freakydoll> ! Ubuntu
[19:16] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[19:17] <_myrtille_> !de
[19:17] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[19:17] <dwidmann> sourcemaker: well, you've been trying to do something with encryption, if you created the encrypted partition with the ubuntu alternate cd, then it *is* luks, else, I'll figure out/tell you how to check
[19:17] <dwidmann> agent-orange: use the locate command to find the file, then check its permissions with the ls -l command
[19:17] <agent-orange> to which permissions
[19:17] <agent-orange> 777?
[19:17] <sourcemaker> dwidmann: yes... both harddrisk and there partitions have been created with the new hardy alternative install cd
[19:18] <agent-orange> 775?
[19:18] <_myrtille_> !de|freakydoll
[19:18] <ubotu> freakydoll: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[19:18] <kaminix> How do I tell grep or some other text program to only show me character x to character y?
[19:18] <dwidmann> sourcemaker: then the command I showed above should work
[19:18] <sourcemaker> dwidmann: And I need the second harddisk for creating my backup...
[19:18] <sourcemaker> dwidmann: i try again
[19:19] <Matt1728> can someone help access an ftp server?
[19:19] <dwidmann> sourcemaker: this one "sudo cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/mapper/root-sda5 crypto-root-sda5"
[19:19] <ubuntu> why i can't connect messenger ?
[19:19] <ubuntu> =)
[19:19] <sourcemaker> dwidmann: no... does not work
[19:19] <dwidmann> sourcemaker: what does it say?
[19:19] <agent-orange> ubuntu. nice name
[19:19] <sourcemaker> !pastbin
[19:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastbin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:19] <sourcemaker> !pastebin
[19:19] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[19:19] <Matt1728> !ftp
[19:19] <ubotu> FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[19:19] <agent-orange> your messenger isnt working?
[19:20] <ubuntu> yep
[19:20] <ubuntu> error
[19:20] <agent-orange> maybe your firewall is blocking that port
[19:20] <agent-orange> it thinks your offline?
[19:20] <ubuntu> i'm on live kubintu
[19:20] <ubuntu> kubuntu
[19:20] <ubuntu> $
[19:20] <ubuntu> *
[19:20] <agent-orange> 5390 i think the port is
[19:20] <agent-orange> open that
[19:20] <ubuntu> ok thanks
[19:21] <agent-orange> no its not that port
[19:21] <agent-orange> sorry, its port 5190
[19:21] <ubuntu> where is the firewall i don't find :)
[19:21] <agent-orange> and tcp.
[19:21] <sourcemaker> dwidmann: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/61650/
[19:22] <agent-orange> hmm ...
[19:22] <agent-orange> depends...try going to 192.168.1.1 or something
[19:22] <mdr> What steps should I take to install my new monitor.
[19:23] <ubuntu> whit windows i don't have that problem
[19:24] <ubuntu> i open it
[19:24] <dwidmann> sourcemaker: , well, the first command worked, all you have to do is mount it - for the -t part specify whichever type you used (ie: ext3, reiserfs, xfs, jfs) - however, I thought you said you were having lvm related issues?
[19:24] <SlimeyPete> I've heard Kopete can have problems connecting
[19:24] <MaDeX> hi guys
[19:24] <SlimeyPete> so I use Pidgin instead, ubuntu
[19:24] <SlimeyPete> it seems to work.
[19:25] <ubuntu> yep kopete don't works
[19:25] <sourcemaker> dwidmann: mount /dev/mapper/root-sda5 / mnt/ does not work: mount: unknown filesystem type 'LVM2_member'
[19:25] <MaDeX> I'm after some help, i'm trying to view websites link youtube etc, but requires a flash player - is there a linux equivalent?
[19:25] <dwidmann> ubuntu: which protocol can't it connect to?
[19:25] <agent-orange> i use pidgin on kubuntu
[19:25] <ubuntu> the application kopete crashed and cause the signal 11 (sigsegv)
[19:25] <ubuntu> :)
[19:25] <sourcemaker> dwidmann: does also not work! mount /dev/mapper/root-sda5 /mnt/ -t ext3
[19:25] <agent-orange> ubuntu...... are you trying to go on AIM, MSN, YAHOO, what
[19:26] <dwidmann> sourcemaker: and the error for that command is?
[19:26] <william__> probabaly the old msn one....
[19:27] <sourcemaker> dwidmann: wrong fs type
[19:27] <dwidmann> william__: indeed ..... tis what I was thinking
[19:28] <dwidmann> sourcemaker: hmmmm .... well it's decrypting it okay, are you sure it's ext3? why not try running fsck.ext3 on /dev/mapper/root-sda5 to see?
[19:28] <sourcemaker> dwidmann: yes... it is :-) I am 100% sure :-)
[19:29] <dwidmann> sourcemaker: I still say you should fsck it .... if it's decrypted okay it at least in theory should be a filesystem issue
[19:31] <sourcemaker> dwidmann: I can start this harddisk from hardy (grub) normal boot
[19:32] <dwidmann> sourcemaker: hmmmmmmm
[19:33]  * dwidmann gives up
[19:33] <MaDeX> Can someone help me please?
[19:33] <ubuntu> what is your problem
[19:33] <dwidmann> !question
[19:34] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[19:34] <cyproteck> !question
[19:34] <sourcemaker> dwidmann: I do not understand this problem... is there a difference between normal mount and LVM?
[19:35] <MaDeX> I'm trying to get a flash player for sites like for expample youtube, they dont automatically install
[19:35] <ksal> hi all
[19:35] <sourcemaker> MaDeX: apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[19:36] <ksal> i have GeForce 7300 graphic card
[19:36] <MaDeX> I type that into terminal right?
[19:36] <sourcemaker> MaDeX: sure
[19:36] <ksal> what drivers should install to have 3d acceleration?
[19:36] <dwidmann> sourcemaker: well, with lvm if you had told it to decrypt /dev/sda6 (or any other serial disk for that matter) it would have failed.
[19:36] <MaDeX> sourcemaker: thanks so much, people like you are a credit to this OS
[19:36] <dwidmann> sourcemaker: or maybe, it is capable of decrypting it anyway?
[19:37] <ksal> i have GeForce 7300 graphic card. what drivers should install to have 3d acceleration?
[19:37] <jussio1> MaDeX: likely you will need sudo with that.  ;)
[19:37] <dwidmann> ksal: nvidia-glx-new
[19:37] <jussio1> !ati | ksal
[19:37] <ubotu> ksal: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[19:37] <ksal> so I have them installed
[19:37] <sourcemaker> dwidmann: it's pretty cool to know... that I do not have a working backup :-)
[19:37] <dwidmann> ksal: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new && sudo nvidia-xconfig
[19:37] <ksal> but when I enable them, me screen resolution changes to 640x480
[19:38] <MaDeX> sourcemaker: I'm having problem with putting it in terminal
[19:38] <MaDeX> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree ?
[19:38] <jussio1> !fixres | ksal
[19:38] <ubotu> ksal: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[19:38] <sourcemaker> dwidmann: I will look around the web... maybe I will find the solution...
[19:38] <jussio1> MaDeX: correct
[19:38] <shadowhywind> hay all just upgraded to hardy. trying to set up xmms2 and can't find a good gui. Does anyone know of one that matchs xmms?
[19:38] <MaDeX> jussio1:  thank you sir :D
[19:39] <jussio1> :)
[19:39] <MaDeX> 112  meg ?
[19:39] <jussio1> shadowhywind: hardy support in #ubuntu+1
[19:39] <dwidmann> sourcemaker: do you get any other devices in /dev/mapper other than the root-sda6 one? Perhaps LVM is not running (or is unable to pickup on your partition), also, are you sure you have the "lvm2" package installed?
[19:39] <jussio1> MaDeX: what is 112 meg?
[19:40] <MaDeX> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree, this app?
[19:40] <MaDeX> I would copy n paste it here, but people will get annoyed at me :D
[19:41] <jussio1> !paste | MaDeX
[19:41] <ubotu> MaDeX: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[19:41] <sourcemaker> well... I have 2 hardy installations... both with the same install cd (alternative) and using encryption with LVM... At the moment I am using the fresh clean install on my first harddisk and try to backup the data to the second fresh clean hardy install :-)
[19:42] <sourcemaker> dwidmann: the difference is... that my first harddisk contains my personal data from backup... and so on
[19:42] <ksal> hmm
[19:42] <jussio1> sourcemaker: so you are on hardy now?
[19:42] <sourcemaker> dwidmann: yes... I am
[19:42] <sourcemaker> dwidmann: and I have both harddisk installed with hardy
[19:42] <sourcemaker> dwidmann: encrypted with LVM
[19:43] <jussio1> sourcemaker: was that directed at me?
[19:43] <MaDeX> jussio1:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/61662/
[19:43] <sourcemaker> jussio1: yes... I am sorry
[19:43] <MaDeX> jussio1: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/61662/
[19:43] <ksal> ee
[19:43] <jussio1> sourcemaker: if you are on hardy, please try in #ubuntu+1 :)
[19:44] <jussio1> MaDeX: ok, im looking
[19:44] <cyproteck> oo
[19:44] <jussio1> !netsplit
[19:44] <ubotu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[19:44] <ksal> jussio1: can you show mi that line with apt again?
[19:44] <lazarus> help
[19:44] <ksal> it was nvidia-glx-new and nvidia-xconfig ?
[19:44] <sourcemaker> jussio1:  I try this at the same moment without success
[19:44] <draik> Do we have a release date for 8.04?
[19:44] <pyro_17> !sound
[19:44] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[19:45] <dwidmann> ksal: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new && sudo nvidia-xconfig
[19:45] <jussio1> draik: 24th april afaik.
[19:45] <ksal> draik: it's 24 april i
[19:45] <lazarus> i have apps left over by kde
[19:45] <ksal> afaik :)
[19:45] <draik> Thank you jussio1 and ksal
[19:45] <ksal> :]
[19:45] <lazarus> help me please
[19:45] <jussio1> MaDeX: are you on 64 bit?
[19:46] <ksal> dwidmann: if I have glx-new installed already
[19:46] <MaDeX> jussio1: how do i tell? think so
[19:46] <lazarus> i have apps left over by kde
[19:46] <lazarus> help me please
[19:46] <lazarus> i have apps left over by kde
[19:46] <ksal> dwidmann: but when I try to install nvidia-xconfig, apt wants to remove driver.
[19:46] <dwidmann> ksal: that sounded like the beginning of a question ...... if ... then??
[19:46] <jussio1> MaDeX: in terminal type uname -r
[19:47] <jussio1> !repeat | lazarus
[19:47] <ubotu> lazarus: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience
[19:47] <dwidmann> ksal: you don't need to install nvidia-xconfig, it's part of the glx-new package .... you just run it
[19:47] <MaDeX> jussio1: 2.6.24-12-generic
[19:47] <ksal> so why it's specified in line you  gave me?
[19:48] <jussio1> MaDeX: but yes, it needs a few extra libs for flash on 64 bit, as there is only a 32 bit plugin provided by adobe
[19:48] <MaDeX> sounds good jussio1, thanks
[19:48] <dwidmann> lazarus: I don't understand the question
[19:48] <jussio1> MaDeX: no probs.
[19:48] <MaDeX> I love this :D
[19:49] <MaDeX> my dream OS :D
[19:49] <sourcemaker> jussio1: no response from ubuntu+1 :-)
[19:49] <jussio1> MaDeX: so do I :) if you want to just chat, care to join me in #kubuntu-offtopic ?
[19:49] <MaDeX> yeah, I would love to learn more
[19:49] <MaDeX> Anyone play eve-online in ubuntu?
[19:49] <jussio1> sourcemaker: look again :)
[19:50] <dwidmann> MaDeX: I would if my connection could handle it :(
[19:50] <MaDeX> :(
[19:50] <MaDeX> I cant get ubuntu working on my other pc
[19:50] <draik> Anyone know if Finaly Fantasy XI and the expansion will play locally?
[19:50] <ShinAreku> I have not played eve for ages.. I parked my brutix somewhere safe just before all the new updates
[19:50] <MaDeX> :( it has a 8800 gts
[19:50] <jussio1> MaDeX: please keep this channnel for support only :)
[19:51] <pyro17> !sound
[19:51] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[19:51] <MaDeX> and wont intialise
[19:52] <draik> !WINE
[19:52] <ubotu> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[19:52] <draik> !AppDB
[19:52] <ubotu> The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org
[19:54] <MaDeX> Whats the difference between ubuntu and kubuntu?
[19:54] <JoshOvki> Kubuntu has KDE desktop manager, ubuntu has gnome (basicly)
[19:54] <MaDeX> kde?
[19:55] <MaDeX> kubuntu is more user orientated
[19:55] <MaDeX> ?
[19:55] <ksal> MaDeX: no
[19:55] <ksal> kubuntu has installed KDE  desktop environment out of box
[19:55] <ksal> ubuntu has gnome
[19:55] <MaDeX> explain to a M$ user - sorry for my ignorance
[19:55] <MaDeX> gnome is?
[19:55] <ksal> xubuntu has xfce
[19:56] <ksal> gnome is another desktop environment. simple, clean, fast and user friendly
[19:56] <ksal> but kde is moe similiar to windows, so you'll probably want to use it.
[19:56] <MaDeX> ksal: thanks so much
[19:57] <ksal> no problem.
[19:59] <sourcemaker> jussio1: I found this documentation... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemLVMHowto
[19:59] <ksal> jesus.
[19:59] <WrathOfDead> netsplit :s
[20:06] <MaDeX> :/
[20:07] <MaDeX> is there a command in terminal to ping something
[20:07] <MaDeX> like ping www.yahoo.co.uk
[20:07] <_myrtille_> ping should work
[20:07] <billyd> Has anyone configured RealTek ALC833 onboard sound??
[20:08] <dwidmann> MaDeX: get use host to get the ip address of the server you want to ping
[20:08] <JAM> can anyone tell me how to use subversion with kdevelop?
[20:09] <sourcemaker> jussio1:  i have the problem... both partitions are using the same LVM name "sourcemaker".   WARNING: Duplicate VG name sourcemaker: Existing II0uFV-jGba-5k3b-nfcX-yJGp-d52G-IpfkSF (created here) takes precedence over oFj3SR-wOaC-No5N-T967-9tcI-tPzK-nQZLAB  Can't initialize physical volume "/dev/mapper/root-sda5" of volume group "sourcemaker" without -ff
[20:09] <MaDeX> thanks _myrtille_ and dwidmann
[20:10] <MaDeX> oh and command for uptime in terminal
[20:11] <_myrtille_> uptime? :D
[20:11] <MaDeX> system uptime
[20:12] <MaDeX> oooo and maybe is there a linux server, does all the things basicly the same as windows 2003 server, but with desktop environment?
[20:13] <recon> What is the equivlent of "Select all text" in KDE? (ctrl-a in most other systems)
[20:13] <mefisto__> recon: ctrl-a
[20:14] <recon> mefisto__: ctrl-a doesn't work on my system.
[20:14] <mefisto__> recon: where are you trying to use it?
[20:14] <recon> mefisto__: inside konversation and konqueror atm.
[20:15] <farhat> it works in konversation for me
[20:15] <farhat> also I'm a total noob, plz don't mind me
[20:15] <recon> maybe i shouldn't of hit "UNIZ" in the start-up wizard. i'll run it again, see if that works.
[20:15]  * billyd fins comments about Konversation interesting - never trued it
[20:15] <_myrtille_> MaDex: uptime should give you the system uptime: 1. argument gives the local time, 2. the system uptime, 3. number of person logged on and load averages
[20:16] <michel_> hello
[20:17] <sourcemaker> how can I solve the problem "LVM: Duplicate VG name"...
[20:17] <rami> Help me please, i have 40GB left on my HDD, but some minutes ago i had absolutley no memory, and now i have 20GB! whats happening?
[20:17] <recon> yeah, that did it.
[20:18] <billyd> I'm trying to configure realTek ALC833 sound which is recognized as HDA ATI SB and and am never offered a choice as to number of channels.  About ready to use an OLD OLD ensoniq card
[20:19] <rami> and i havent dowmloaded anything
[20:19] <farhat> Can someone give me some psychological advice?
[20:19] <ksal> farhat: go on ;]
[20:20] <rami> !HDD
[20:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hdd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:20] <rami> !HARDdrive
[20:20] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in !GNOME under !Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For !Edgy and later, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[20:20] <farhat> I've been using XP for several years now, and I estimate that I'm not retarded in the aspect of computer stuff. For example, I made a calendar in c++ (just as example)
[20:20] <rami> -.-!!!!!!!!!!!!
[20:20] <sourcemaker> how can I change the LVM name?
[20:20] <farhat> But recently I installed Kubuntu as dual boot
[20:20] <Armagguedes> hello
[20:21] <Armagguedes> using Hardy/KDE-3.5.9, can i install Okular?
[20:21] <farhat> and while I'm trying to explore the way it works, I can't help but feel that I'm incredibly retarded and unable to understand how it works
[20:21] <ksal> Armagguedes: yes, but you'll have to download much of kde4 libs and other packages.
[20:21] <Armagguedes> and thus remove Gwenview, KPDF, CHM viewers and so forth?
[20:21] <rami> why does my hard drive space bounce around from 0GB so that i cant view any website at all, and all of a sudden i got 20GB
[20:22] <Armagguedes> ksal, will the kde4libs interfere with my 359 install?
[20:22] <schultza> Ok. How do I configure the middle mouse button in konq to load the page in a new tab?
[20:22] <ksal> Armagguedes: of course not. you can have both installed kde 3 and 4
[20:22] <Armagguedes> hm ok
[20:22] <Armagguedes> i'll look into it
[20:23] <ksal> farhat: linux is simple :)
[20:23] <Armagguedes> hopefully it won't blow up in my face
[20:23] <ksal> Armagguedes: :D HAHA ;)
[20:23] <farhat> but I don't understand how everyone finds his way around here
[20:23] <Armagguedes> what?
[20:23] <Armagguedes> kde4 did
[20:23] <Armagguedes> everything had a mind of its own
[20:23] <Armagguedes> nothing worked properly
[20:23] <farhat> it looks like something which is almost impossible to be learned in an auto-didactical way
[20:23] <Armagguedes> and all the options to change stuff were missing
[20:24] <_myrtille_> farhat: so how did you learn your way around xp?
[20:24] <Armagguedes> apparently they'll be back for KDE4.1
[20:24] <farhat> because xp is made for noobs
[20:24] <ksal> Armagguedes: you must have not installed something.
[20:24] <_myrtille_> farhat: I'm having the same problems, but at some point you get a "click"-experience
[20:24] <farhat> you could try clicking on everything to learn by trying
[20:24] <ksal> farhat: kubuntu, in some point, too ;)
[20:24] <_myrtille_> and thats what keeps you going ;)
[20:24] <farhat> ah that cheers me up thanks
[20:25] <rami> anyone? its quite serious this.
[20:26] <schultza> How do I configure konqueror to open link in new tab on middle mouse click. It opens in an entirely new window.
[20:26] <shadowhywind> hay all, i have lost the icons fore firefox that get dispolayed on the systray and the icon in the top left corner, any ideas?
[20:26] <schultza> Tried looking under shortcuts, not there.
[20:26] <rynol> Hi every one, I have installed the Kubuntu Hardy beta version. Now I have some problems, I'm used to Ubuntu, can u maybe help me
[20:27] <jtt> !ask
[20:27] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[20:27] <Armagguedes> uh-oh, it asks to remove "kdebase-bin-kde3"
[20:27] <ksal> farhat: for me, personally, main difference beetween linux and windows is that in linux you have acces to everything. in windows... mainly to nothing.
[20:27] <Armagguedes> doesn't sound like a good idea
[20:27] <drarem> grrr....  where is my taskbar and why did it disappear?
[20:27] <ksal> Armagguedes: what?
[20:28] <MaDeX> Would you advise a reboot, after the flash plugin has been installed on my 64 bit kubuntu?
[20:28] <Armagguedes> if i try to install okular, it isntalls a whole lot of KDE4 stuff, but removes kdebase-bin-kde3
[20:28] <ksal> i'm sure you can have both kde4 and 3.
[20:28] <MaDeX> as its not working  for web sites I want to view youtube
[20:28] <ksal> MaDeX: so you can try.
[20:28] <MaDeX> kk
[20:28] <ksal> but tell us, what plugin you've installed
[20:28] <schultza> I finally found it.
[20:28] <oloughlin75> How do I restart the audio output... amarok is telling me "audio output failed.... device busy"
[20:29] <MaDeX> ksal: I dont know something someone told me to install
[20:29] <ksal> oloughlin75: maybe just restart amarok.
[20:29] <oloughlin75> ksal: I lost sound for everyint
[20:29] <oloughlin75> everything*
[20:29] <rynol> I enabled the desktop effect, now my desktop changer goes haywire
[20:29] <teknohell> hello
[20:29] <MaDeX> ksal: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[20:30] <ksal> oloughlin75: if you didn't uninstalled anything, the first thing i'd do is reboot :]
[20:30] <MaDeX> teknohell: Hi :D
[20:30] <ksal> MaDeX: good then.
[20:30] <MaDeX> kk cya after restart :D
[20:30] <ksal> teknohell: hi.
[20:30] <oloughlin75> ksal: Itll work after... It did it yesterday
[20:30] <ksal> mhm, bye
[20:30] <drarem> kde3 - how do i get my taskbar back
[20:30] <oloughlin75> ksal: I shouldn't have to restart though
[20:30] <ksal> drarem: first tell how it disappeared.
[20:30] <drarem> after I used amsn, it disappeard on me
[20:30] <drarem> it was working fine before that
[20:31] <teknohell> amarok is tickin me off too as well as adept
[20:31] <ksal> drarem: try to close amsn
[20:31] <drarem> i rebooted
[20:31] <drarem> cold and warm
[20:31] <ksal> if it won't help, try to restart kicker then.
[20:32] <ksal> drarem: if you're using hardy, it may be probably a bug, so you can report it on bugzilla
[20:32] <drarem> no it's 7.10
[20:32] <cyproteck> yo
[20:33] <drarem> how do i restart kicker
[20:33] <ksal> drarem: CTRL + Escape
[20:33] <ksal> it will run task manager
[20:33] <ksal> there you can kill an application
[20:34] <ksal> and then press ALT + F2 and type 'kicker'
[20:34] <reindeer> Which utility would I use to convert a .toast file over to an ISO, then burn the ISO over to whatever medium I choose?
[20:34] <ksal> reindeer: GNOME or KDE?
[20:35] <reindeer> KDE 3.5
[20:35] <drarem> some part of kicker isn't working
[20:35] <rynol> help anyone, I enabled the desktop effect (Hardy), now my desktop changer goes haywire
[20:35] <ksal> reindeer: for burning cd you can use k3b.
[20:35] <ksal> probably the best burner for linux
[20:35] <ksal> IMO :)
[20:36] <ere4si> +1 k3b
[20:36] <reindeer> OK. I just need to convert the toast file inito an ISO.
[20:36] <reindeer> into
[20:36] <ksal> drarem: i would install synaptic then and search for 'toast' :]
[20:36] <ksal> that's what I would do.
[20:36] <teknohell> can someone help me with my cracked out Adept manager
[20:37] <drarem> somehow hiding was messed up, I got it back by right clicking on my 'launcher panel', configure panel, and unhide/rehide the main panel.. weird
[20:37] <ksal> rynol: can  you specify, what you understand under word 'haywire' ?
[20:37] <jtt> rynol  hardy support is #ubuntu+1
[20:37] <shockhead> hi, is there no #kubuntu+1?
[20:37] <reindeer> Kewl. Thanx
[20:38] <jtt> shockhead, doesnt appear to be #kubuntu+1
[20:38] <shockhead> :-(
[20:39] <rynol> Haywire - I set the desktop changer to 4 desktop and when I apply it go back to two desktops
[20:39] <ksal> reindeer: i never before heard of .toast
[20:40] <teknohell> can someone help me with the following error on  Adept manager The APT database could not be opened this may be caused by incorrect apt configuration or some similar problem.
[20:40] <ksal> teknohell: sorry, not me.
[20:40] <ksal> and
[20:40] <ksal> !ask teknohell
[20:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask teknohell - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:40] <ksal> damn
[20:40] <ksal> !ask
[20:40] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[20:40] <rynol> ksal: Haywire - I set the desktop changer to 4 desktop and when I apply it go back to two desktops
[20:41] <jtt> rynol believe you have to set save session parameter under advanced -> session manager
[20:41] <MaDeX> ksal: reboot works great :D
[20:42] <mdr> KDE's control panel does not  list idea resolution for my new monior.  How do I reconfigure?  P.S.  The graphics adaptor supports this as i booted into windows and the resolution was available there.
[20:42] <ksal> MaDeX: great then :]
[20:42] <ksal> mdr: it's an LCD?
[20:42] <mdr> yes
[20:42] <ksal> good then
[20:43] <ksal> mdr: you're used to work around with xorg.conf?
[20:43] <mdr> i can probably handle it.
[20:43] <ksal> mdr: you have to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[20:44] <ksal> you need to find lines that say about refresh rate, and hash them
[20:44] <kkathman> what does this mean when trying to install something:  "timestamp too far in the future: March 29 22:02:33 2008"  ??
[20:44] <ksal> them save it, and restart x
[20:44] <rynol> jtt: sorry i dont understand, if I configure the app to show 4 desktops it show only 2, when I configure again the config applet show only one?
[20:45] <mdr> okay, but it's the resolution (not refresh rate) that is missing.  i.e.  I want 1400x900 and it's not available (only in windows)
[20:45] <ksal> yes I know
[20:45] <ksal> just do what I say ;)
[20:45] <mdr> okay
[20:46] <genii> kkathman: You downloaded the file from a timezone which is in the future
[20:46] <kkathman> genii:  so what do I do to fix this?
[20:46] <jtt> rynol  Kmenu -> System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Session Mgr -> Check Restore Manually Saved Session then  Kmenu -> Save Session
[20:46] <kkathman> I just downloaded from the US mirror
[20:47] <freakydoll> bin wieder da
[20:47] <ksal> when I bought my 17' LCD I could't set 1280x1024 resolution. I had to hash ( or you can delete if you prefer) lines about refresh rate. then it worked.
[20:47] <mdr> But I don't understand "find lines that say about refresh rate, and hash them".  What's "hash them"?
[20:47] <ksal> hash is #
[20:47] <mdr> ah
[20:47] <ksal> you have to place it on the beginning of each line.
[20:48] <genii> kkathman: use the touch command
[20:48] <ere4si> mdr: you might be better of opening a terminal and typing  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[20:48] <kkathman> its not letting me use sudo at all now for anything
[20:49] <kkathman> genii:  what exactly do I "touch"
[20:49] <mdr> btw, my variation of ubuntu is the last stable one  dusty dustbin or whatever they called it (it's a 'd')  Does that matter
[20:49] <jtt> mdr before doing anything save xorg.conf  to xorg.conf.jic
[20:49] <ksal> haha :D
[20:49] <genii> kkathman: eg: touch filename
[20:49] <ksal> dusty dustbin.. :]
[20:49] <mdr> ere4si:  ksal method seems easier
[20:49] <ksal> mdr: it doesn't matter
[20:50] <mdr> gotcha I'll save the file first
[20:50] <ksal> maybe not easier, but simplier
[20:50] <ksal> mdr. i'd make a backup before ;)
[20:51] <mdr> the last time I ran dpkg-reconfigure it asked me a question or two i couldn't answer.... but thats been years ago
[20:51] <mkargar_> hello,i have problem in Virtualbox!
[20:51] <ere4si> mdr: you just select the defaults except for what you want to change
[20:51] <jtt> !ask | mkargar_
[20:51] <ubotu> mkargar_: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[20:52] <mkargar_> since of starting image,virtualBox showing error:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/61668/
[20:52] <kkathman> genii:  fixed it by removing /var/run/sudo/<username>
[20:52] <jtt> mdr what is the resolution of your new monitor
[20:52] <mdr> 1440x900
[20:53] <romunov> dvd burning stops at about 6-7%. any ideas what might be causing this?
[20:53] <jtt> mdr is  there a  line in your xorg.conf that starts with the word 'Modes'
[20:53] <ksal> mdr: it worked?
[20:54] <MrJoey> Anyone have experience with sending data or setting up a network connection across a null parallel cable?
[20:54] <maroo> hello, are amd/ati cards still an major PITA with recent kernel/drivers? I'm planning to buy a 780G board (HD3200) and wonder if it would be supported by linux/ubuntu.
[20:55] <maroo> (support includes xvideo stuff, 3d, .. etc)
[20:55] <SlimeyPete> maroo: yes, they're still a pain
[20:56] <SlimeyPete> but hopefully that will improve as the OSS drivers get off the ground
[20:56] <SlimeyPete> chances are you'll be able to get your card to work, mind - but it might involve a lot of hassle.
[20:56] <SlimeyPete> 'course it might be instantaneous ;)
[20:57] <maroo> SlimeyPete: what are the major problems with the closed drivers?
[20:58] <SlimeyPete> they're just buggy, is all, and they don't work with aiglx
[20:59] <SlimeyPete> some people find that their cards aren't recognised or their displays get corrupted etc. - personally I've not had too many problems with my Radeon Mobile though.
[21:00] <maroo> hm yeah the 780G/HD3200 is *very* new.. but the board is really attractive for a desktop computer.. well i guess i'll have to look for a board with nvidia card for some extra bucks :(
[21:02] <maroo> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd_780g_linux&num=1 for log reference :)
[21:03] <ruben> hi all
[21:03] <ytaggs> hi there
[21:04] <ytaggs> i've just installed kubuntu for the first time
[21:04] <ruben> i'm trying to install an nvidia driver, but its asking for libc to be installed. how can i go about installing this lib file?
[21:04] <ytaggs> all this time i've been using ubuntu
[21:04] <ytaggs> and im new with kde
[21:04] <ruben> heh, i'm using kubuntu as well. it seems to be pretty macified, but i like it
[21:05] <genii> MrJoey: sudo modprobe plip; sudo ifconfig plip0 up                   is simplest, if you have some /etc/network/interfaces entry for it
[21:05] <ytaggs> wich kde 3.5 or 4?
[21:05] <ruben> 4
[21:06] <MaDeX> theres no default firewall on kubuntu right?
[21:06] <ytaggs> ohh im using 3.5
[21:06] <ytaggs> dont know
[21:10] <ruben> ytaggs: why not upgrade to 4?
[21:11] <MaDeX> how do I find out my computer name?
[21:11] <ruben> MaDeX: just open up a terminal window and it'll say the username@computername
[21:12] <ytaggs> well because im waiting till ubuntu 8.04 comes out
[21:12] <ytaggs> im currently using 7.10
[21:12] <ytaggs> sorry i ment kubuntu
[21:12] <ytaggs> and i dont like betas
[21:13] <JoePickle> #
[21:13] <MrJoey> genii- thanks, but the problem I'm having is that the data simply won't get through.  I already did the manual ifconfigs, but pinging doesn't succeed.  Is there another way to test if the null modem cable actually works?
[21:15] <genii> MrJoey: Make sure it's the default gateway
[21:16] <genii> route
[21:17] <Roey> hello
[21:17] <Roey> is there a guide for setting up Gnash in Kubuntu 8.04 to view Youtube?
[21:20] <mkargar_> Roey:are you using kubuntu 64bit?
[21:20] <MrJoey> you can use youtube-dl if gnash doesn't work for that
 MrJoey: Make sure it's the default gateway > Do I need to?  Typing ssh joey@192.168.0.4 to directly connect to the gateway won't work?
[21:22] <mkargar_> ok, youtube-dl is best!
[21:23] <genii> MrJoey: It will look to your default network adapter for how to find 192.168.0.4
[21:23] <MrJoey> So, on the client (192.168.1.55), do I type 'route add default gw 192.168.0.4'?  (192.168.0.4 is the PC connected to the Internet)
[21:27] <genii> MrJoey: Maybe add a route to 192.168.0.4 first and try that. like:  route add host 192.168.0.4 metric 1 plip0
[21:28] <MrJoey> genii> I tried that on both sides, and it didn't owrk.
[21:28] <MrJoey> work*
[21:30] <genii> MrJoey: Hmm. Not able to ping aftr that then?
[21:31] <MrJoey> Now I'm trying to do modprobe plip irq=7 (according to http://www.linux.org/docs/ldp/howto/PLIP-6.html ), but it says "unknown parameter 'irq'"
[21:31] <MrJoey> I'm doing that because the default irq is none on the laptop
[21:32] <MrJoey> I'll try rebooting and looking at my BIOS settings
[21:33] <genii> MrJoey: You may need to remove lp driver, or reconfigure parport_pc with the address and irq
[21:34] <MrJoey> On my laptop's BIOS, there's an option to enable advanced LPT mode.  Will I need that?
[21:34] <MrJoey> I can't turn it on because the BIOS is locked
[21:35] <genii> MrJoey: PS2 mode/enhanced allows 2 way communications
[21:35] <genii> MrJoey: Does it tell you in the bios what the address and irq is?
[21:36] <MrJoey> Yes, the irq is 7 and the address is 0x378 or so
[21:36] <MrJoey> I don't remember exactly
[21:36] <MrJoey> There was 0x3... and 0x3B..., but it was the former
[21:36] <Makuseru> are there any graphing caculators in kubuntu?
[21:37] <fdoving> Makuseru: speedcrunch by default, iirc.
[21:37] <Makuseru> fdoving: thanks
[21:38] <MrJoey> Oh, goodie, modprobe parport-pc irq=7 io=0x378 ; modprobe plip made IRQ-less mode go away
[21:38] <genii> MrJoey: Then something like: sudo modprobe -r lp parport_pc;sudo modprobe parport_pc io=0x378 irq=7
[21:38] <genii> bah, too late :)
[21:40] <MrJoey> I still can't ping, though :(
[21:40] <MrJoey> I'm still getting transmit timeouts
[21:41] <MrJoey> I'm worried about this:  Are there any parallel ports that will fit on both sides that aren't null modem?
[21:41] <genii> MrJoey: use ifconfig to bring it down. Try: sudo ifconfig plip0 192.168.0.2 pointopoint 192.168.0.4 netmask 255.255.255.255 up
[21:42] <genii> MrJoey: There are 25 pin plugs which are for other things. SCSI and parallel port scanners for instance
[21:45] <MrJoey> Can I try sending data with lp instead (after deactivating plip)?
[21:45] <MrJoey> I would think I could just do echo 'hi' > /dev/lp0 on one end and cat /dev/lp0 on the other
[21:45] <genii> Maybe, haven't really tried it
[21:46] <MrJoey> Instead, I get Input/output errors when catting
[21:48] <genii> AFK, need to go get some Gatorade
[21:52] <foibles> does anyone here use azureus?
[21:57] <SisyphusINC> can someone help me get my firewall functional i scanned my ports and it says 1052 closed 3 stealth and 1 open this seems to be a bit hazardous how do i get all or most stealth and 0 open?
[21:57] <rain> How to mount /dev/sda2 wit write premission? whe i type sudo mount /dev/sda2 /media/sda2 then i cant write there
[21:58] <rain> how i give permissions when i mount drive?
[21:59] <rain> any one know how?
[22:13] <corporeal> i deleted my Desktop folder, and kdesktop started showing my entire home dir on my desktop instead. I recreated the folder, now how do i get kdesktop ot start showing it again instead of my home dir!
[22:13] <corporeal> lol
[22:13] <maroo> hello again, using kde 3.5.9 - where are the mime data for a local user stored (file associations) - i can't change the order of mime types and suspect the database/file it is stored in to be broken
[22:14] <maroo> or is this a known issue that you can change the order with the feisty kde 3.5.9 build? :X
[22:16]  * DOOM_NX gn all
[22:16] <sourcemaker> which browser is more secure? firefox or konqueror?
[22:16] <DarkriftX> hrmmmm
[22:16] <DarkriftX> id guess firefox, but i dont know for sure
[22:17] <manuel__> #ubuntu-es             #kubuntu-es
[22:17] <ThorOdin> want to be safe? use lynx instead ;)
[22:17] <maroo> i'd guess konqueror as the probability for a  konqueror exploit in the wild is much lesser than for a fx exploit :)
[22:18] <_myrtille_> maroo: sign, i'm just to slow :p
[22:18] <SeligArkin> HEy, whenever I try to apt-get anything, I get this:
[22:19]  * Jucato waits for it...
[22:19]  * corporeal does too
[22:19] <SeligArkin> Or not
[22:19] <SeligArkin> one sec
[22:19] <Jucato> :D
[22:19]  * corporeal chuckles
[22:19] <_myrtille_> *g*
[22:19] <SeligArkin> oh yay
[22:19] <SeligArkin> now I get dpkg in use
[22:19] <Jucato> !adeptfix | SeligArkin
[22:20] <ubotu> SeligArkin: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[22:20] <SeligArkin> Setting up tzdata (2007k-0ubuntu0.7.10.1) ...
[22:20] <SeligArkin> dpkg: error processing tzdata (--configure): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[22:20] <SeligArkin> Errors were encountered while processing: tzdata
[22:20] <SeligArkin> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[22:20] <SeligArkin> sorry if that counts as spam
[22:20] <SeligArkin> it seems some dpkg errors stopme from setting up anything
[22:20] <SeligArkin> is there any way to tell dpkg to give up?
[22:22]  * maroo goes nuts about the mime data
[22:23] <SeligArkin> can anyone helpwith that?
[22:23] <Jucato> maroo: ~/.kde/share/config/profilerc
[22:24] <maroo> Jucato: aaaah thank you very much
[22:24] <SeligArkin> this is driving me nuts, it shouldnot continue trying to upgrade pacjafes
[22:24] <SeligArkin> how do I make it get a clean slate,make it think all is well in the world
[22:24]  * maroo slaps some untoughtful sudo session that set the owner to root of this fule
[22:24] <sourcemaker> I have miss-configured my konqueror... can someone please send me the default appearance of konqueror ? Standard-Font and size?
[22:25] <maroo> file
[22:26] <maroo> still some bad error handling :) .. it could atleast give some warning on the console or in a dialog that it was not possible to write to this file ;)
[22:29] <Jucato> maroo: change ownership (chown) and permissions (chmod). check with ls -l what they currently are
[22:29] <maroo> Jucato: yeah thanks works fine now
[22:30] <maroo> just ranting that an error message would be very polite ;)
[22:30] <SeligArkin> GOD DAMN IT
[22:30] <Jucato> maroo: did you try running the app from konsole?
[22:30] <maroo> yes
[22:30] <maroo> kcmshell filetypes  ->
[22:31] <Jucato> SeligArkin: shouting and cussing won't get you helped faster
[22:31] <maroo> no error message at all - just no changes
[22:31] <maroo> but it works now so i'm happy
[22:31] <maroo> thanks again
[22:31] <SeligArkin> Jucato: I am sorry, but IMHO, if a package doesn;t install right, it should not re-try the next time you try to install ANYTHING other than THAT PACKAGE
[22:32] <SeligArkin> esp if there is no obvious way to tell it to GIVE UP
[22:32] <SeligArkin> as far as any frontend is conserned,it succeeded
[22:32] <Jucato> SeligArkin: it should. because basically that package "locked" the database, because it may or may not break the system if left unattended. try removing/uninstalling the package first (if possible)
[22:33] <Jucato> SeligArkin: or try these commands: "sudo dpkg --configure -a" or "sudo apt-get install -f"
[22:34] <SeligArkin> the package thats erroring, is tzdata
[22:34] <SeligArkin> must be from when I tried 'mark all upgrades'
[22:34] <SeligArkin> which, notonly takes forever
[22:34] <SeligArkin> but seems to enjou breaking everything
[22:35] <Jucato> sorry can't help more
[22:35]  * Jucato is gone
[22:35] <gamma9mu> !kde4
[22:35] <ubotu> KDE 4.0.2 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.2.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.2.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[22:36] <kgx> hey. can someone provide me a link to shows to prevent session hijacking? i understand how it happens, but not sure how to prevent it.
[22:36] <gamma9mu> !hardy
[22:37] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[22:37] <sourcemaker> I create backups with rsync.... the speed is 4,30MB/s... is this not slow?
[22:37] <frinuxfr> hi
[22:39] <frinuxfr> I have a problem since I installed kubuntu (though it does not come from it I think) : when I click on a link, whatever is the application, it opens the website with firefox, which is my choice, but with a wrong url : womething like file:///var/tmp... (probably a copy in the cache)
[22:40] <frinuxfr> how can I make it open with the good url ?
[22:43] <dthacker> !myth
[22:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about myth - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:44] <dthacker> !mythtv
[22:44] <ubotu> MythTV is a TV framework for Linux - Instructions for using with Ubuntu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV
[22:45] <TheOverlord> hello there
[22:46] <TheOverlord> I'm having some problems on making my wireless work with MadWifi, could someone help me?
[22:46] <dthacker> what package would the channel recommend to create a mythtv front end on top of Kubuntu?
[22:48] <SlimeyPete> dthacker: you could just use mythbuntu (in fact there might be a mythbuntu-desktop package)
[22:48] <SlimeyPete> I've had a few problems with it though. It updated at one point and then my box refused to log in.
[22:50] <dthacker> SlimeyPete: I want to watch stuff recorded on my mythbuntu backend on my Kubuntu desktop.  That's why I don't want to do a full mythbuntu install.  Then I'd have xfce instead of KDE
[22:50] <SlimeyPete> ah right, I see.
[22:50] <DarkriftX> is kbfx the only way to theme the taskbar/kde button?
[22:56] <photon_> I'd like to use gtk themes for gtk apps in Kubuntu. If I launch the apps from tha command line they look fine, however if they are launched from the menu the look ugly. I have the gtk-qt engine installed and is set to use gtk themes for gtk apps. Any idea what's wrong, maybe I should edit the .gtkrc-2.0-kde file?
[22:57] <sigma_1234> are you using kde4 or kde3?
[22:57] <ubuntu> hi
[22:57] <photon_> kde3
[22:58] <[ka]killer> im trying to recover data from a windows disk, im booted into kubuntu now
[22:58] <[ka]killer> gparted sees the drive but i cant mount it
[22:59] <sigma_1234> odd. i thought the problem was only with gtk apps on kde4
[22:59] <sigma_1234> !info qtparted
[22:59] <[ka]killer> its a fat32 drive
[22:59] <[ka]killer> ooo
[23:00] <[ka]killer> its ntfs >_<M
[23:00] <sigma_1234> wheres ubotu?
[23:00] <sigma_1234> can't you just mount it in system settings?
[23:00] <[ka]killer> gparted says its mounted
[23:01] <[ka]killer> when i go to the location no files display
[23:02] <[ka]killer> gparted says the drive is mounted
[23:05] <[ka]killer> when i try to mount the drive it wants me to put it in fstab or mtab
[23:06] <[ka]killer> hello?
[23:08] <[ka]killer> i forget whats the order i have to put the information of the drive into /etc/fstab
[23:08] <[ka]killer> i know its location file system and the like but i forget the order
[23:09] <sigma_1234> you should use system settings to mount disks. not gparted
[23:11] <[ka]killer> i dont have permission to enter the drive after mounting
[23:11] <[ka]killer> You do not have enough permissions to read file:///dev/disk2
[23:16] <[ka]killer> chmod 777 should give me full permissions to the drive correct?
[23:21] <DarkriftX> [ka]killer, yes, but thats excessive
[23:21] <DarkriftX> because it gives the WHOLE WORLD full access to it also
[23:22] <DarkriftX> man chmod to find out more about permissions
[23:22] <DarkriftX> wait [ka]killer
[23:22] <DarkriftX> did you add it to fstab?
[23:23] <DarkriftX> hellllo
[23:24] <DarkriftX> afk
[23:31] <Dhraakellian> how easy/hard/(un)advisable would it be to try to get the feisty-era radeon driver working on gutsy?
[23:31] <Dhraakellian> since I seem to remember it working better with this Radeon mobility U1 than the current driver
[23:31] <Dhraakellian> ...*facepalm*
[23:31] <Dhraakellian> d'oh!  wrong distro!
[23:32] <Dhraakellian> (kubuntu on the desktop, F8 on this laptop)
[23:32] <Dhraakellian> oops
[23:33] <matthew_> anyone know of a similar "shoutcast" application is available?
[23:33] <matthew_> I broadcast using winamp..
[23:33] <Dhraakellian> icecast?
[23:34] <matthew_> Dhraakellian: care to explain? I'm new :D
[23:35] <Dhraakellian> I have next to no experience with doing the actual broadcasting, but I seem to remember icecast being the name that came up when I looked into it a number of years ago
[23:35] <matthew_> that has a built in MP3 player right?
[23:35] <Dhraakellian> icecast is the streaming server, iirc
[23:36] <Dhraakellian> I think there were xmms plugins for it
[23:36] <Dhraakellian> whether it'd work with audacious and/or the other xmms successors, I don't know
[23:36] <matthew_> :/
[23:36] <matthew_> previously using winamp, with a DSP plugin
[23:37] <matthew_> I dont want to be under M$
[23:37] <joan> hola
[23:37] <wesley_> !adeptfix
[23:37] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[23:38] <joan> hi
[23:38] <joan> what up
[23:39] <matthew_> Dhraakellian: i'm going to need help, I want to install something - i'm used to .exe :D
[23:39] <matthew_> icecast-2.3.1.tar.gz is this a installer?
[23:39] <Dhraakellian> that's probably the source tarball
[23:40] <matthew_> icecast-2.3.1-0.src.rpm ?
[23:41] <Dhraakellian> that's an rpm package, probably meant for fedora or suse
[23:41] <Dhraakellian> $ aptitude search icecast
[23:41] <Dhraakellian> p   icecast-server                                          - MPEG Layer III Streaming Server
[23:41] <Dhraakellian> p   icecast2                                                - Ogg Vorbis and MP3 streaming media server
[23:41] <matthew_> ?
[23:42] <matthew_> i want to stream MP3, to a already setup server
[23:42] <Dhraakellian> matthew_: are you familiar with package managers at all?
[23:43] <matthew_> no Dhraakellian, im a newb - sorry to be a pain
[23:44]  * Dhraakellian launches adept_manager remotely
[23:45] <matthew_> I search for it in there?
[23:45] <matthew_> oooooo
[23:45] <matthew_> I see :D
[23:46] <matthew_> wow this is really good
[23:46] <matthew_> will it install for me too?
[23:46] <Dhraakellian> that's generally what package managers do
[23:46] <matthew_> thats great
[23:46] <Dhraakellian> I usually do most of my package management from the commandline these days.
[23:47] <matthew_> yeah but im sure your knowledge is vast compaired to mine
[23:47] <Dhraakellian> but adept_manager and synaptic are decent for graphical package management
[23:47] <matthew_> I want to break totally and learn this
[23:47] <Dhraakellian> matthew_: only compared to the newbs.
[23:47] <Dhraakellian> aptitude and apt-get are the two commandline tools usually used for debian and ubuntu
[23:48]  * Dhraakellian tends to prefer aptitude for some reason
[23:48] <TeslaTony_> I found the command line utilities are really good if you know exactly what you want
[23:48] <TeslaTony_> The GUI versions (Adept, Synaptic) are better if you want to see what's available
[23:49] <Dhraakellian> iirc, adept's searching is nicer, but actually looking at package information is nicer in synaptic
[23:50] <Dhraakellian> and synaptic lets you choose which of the available versions you want to install
[23:50] <TeslaTony_> I really like the search system in adept
[23:51] <TeslaTony_> Y'know...I think I prefer GNOME as the desktop environment, and KDE's programs...
[23:53] <MaDeX> bleh ive installed shoucast
[23:53] <MaDeX> i mean icecast
[23:53] <MaDeX> but cant find the location of it to run
[23:54]  * Dhraakellian does a little searching
[23:54] <TeslaTony_> MaDeX: Type alt+f2 to pull up a command box, then type "icecast" in there
[23:54] <ep> What the progam to configure xorg.conf?
[23:54] <TeslaTony_> Of course, that's assuming icecast has a GUI...
[23:54] <MaDeX> doesnt work :/
[23:55] <Dhraakellian> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=icecast+ubuntu+howto&btnG=Search
[23:55] <TeslaTony_> Oh and #icecast
[23:56] <Dhraakellian> hehheh
[23:59] <ep> I just ran dpkg-reconfigure to modify xorg.conf so the resolution for my new monitor would be available.   Worked great, but I lost 3d.  Can I just change "nv" to "nvidia" in xorg.conf to get it back?  Or do I need to do something else?